Cave To The Cross Apologetics
Applying God's Word To Philosophical Thought
Episodes
October 13, 2025 • 58 secs
Book 14 Announcement
For our 14th book, we dive into one of the great moments for presuppositional apologetics. The debate between Greg Bahnsen and Gordon Stein in 1985 is a seminal watershed moment in apologetics history. Join us, starting next week, as we walk through the debate with the book The Great Debate edited and commented on by Joshua Pillows.
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The Great Debate - Does God Exist? - Edited and Commentary by...
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Christianity Can Integrate With Science
Christianity can integrate with science. In fact, the scientific revolution was only made possible because of the Christian worldview and those people who sought to discover just exactly how God ordered the universe. Only post-Enlightenment anachronistic history puts Christianity and science at odds with each other. So, this is our last plea to reject scientism and embrace a worldview that ju...
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Can Science Integrate With Christianity?
Now that we have knocked down scientism, are Christians left without being able to use science? Is science without the worldview that provided for its justification and moral guards? Why not at all, says J. P. Moreland who provides a foundation for how science integrate with Christianity.
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00:00 - Introduction
02:39 - Can You Integrate Science & Christianity?
08:11 - 2 Types Of Inte...
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Why God Of The Gaps Is A Bad Objection
While finishing our discussion on why methodological naturalism should be rejected, we deal with another bad objection to Christians having a place in the science world. The charge of believing in a "God of the gaps" is levied at Christians to scoff at their history in science. We take a look at it and offer up "nuh huh" and "you do it too"!
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00:00 - Introduction
03:01 - The 2 Reasons...
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The Danger Of Methodological Naturalism
Before we talk about how Christianity should integrate science, we need to talk about how NOT to do it. The dangers of methodological naturalism aren't realized for those in camps like theistic evolution. Here, we look at why methodological naturalism doesn't work out for those who want to have both God and evolution.
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00:00 - Introduction
01:16 - One Bad Way To Integrate Christianit...
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Fine Tuning, Consciousness, & Morality
Finishing up on the 5 things science can't explain: Fine Tuning, Consciousness, & Morality. In a "physical only" science setting these ideas are best left alone. It winds up either with no reason to hold anyone accountable for anything or the need to discard scientism and possibly let theism into the picture. GASP!
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00:00 - Introduction
01:05 - Can't Explain 3 - Fine Tuning
04:40 - Na...
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Science Can't Explain Origin Or Laws
Looking at how philosophy first holds its place over science, we look at five things science can't explain - but Theism can. Two of those things it can't explain are origin or laws. That is, the origin of the universe and the fundamental laws of nature. You'd think this would be an area that science could tackle. However, naturalism fails to explain both, and science needs theism to get it start...
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August 25, 2025 • 23 mins
Lairs, Evils Beasts, Lazy Gluttons
On vacation this week, so this is my (Patrick's) message on the final portion of Titus, Titus 3:12-15. With epistle beginnings and endings, sometimes we glance over them and view them as superfluous or boring. But those are just as authoritative and important as any portion of God's Word to His Church. We read these sections, and we can meet the challenge - don't be bored, be active!
Previous tea...
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Philosophy's Authority Over Science
Previously, we looked at the authority philosophy has over science, and now we look at philosophy's authority over science. From what beaker to grab to remembering equations to what to write in that peer-reviewed study, the initial steps one makes and concludes is all philosophical. Those most hurt? Scientists and atheists. Big mad.
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00:00 - Introduction
01:12 - The Autonomy Thesis Of Ph...
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August 11, 2025 • 72 mins
Education Is Classical Education
We welcome Martin Cothran from Memoria Press today. Mr. Cothran is a proponent of one of the best educational models that has built the Western world. Education is classical education or it is not education. We discuss what is classical education, why it works, how it teaches both the mind and the whole person in virtue. We also discuss books, a dangerous subject with Mr. Cothran - dangerous for ban...
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The Authority Of Philosophy Over Science
If you think the atheists are mad and don't watch our videos before commenting, wait till they don't see this one!
In continuing the argument that philosophy should be considered first before one considers their science, we look at how the authority of philosophy is not only substantiated by philosophers but even by scientists who want to try and get around philosophy. Also, when they come ...
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July 28, 2025 • 23 mins
Philosophy First!
The goal is not to reject science. It's understanding the failure that scientism provides when it comes to understanding. However, adopting a philosophy first framework provides the foundation for science to function (and the presuppositions needed for the necessary preconditions of intelligibility). So he's the case for adopting First Philosophy.
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00:00 - Introduction
01:44 - Recovering Philosophy First ...
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Scientism Is Not All In The Head
Here's a case study in which desiring only naturalist scientific explanations won't get you anywhere - consciousness. When it comes to the mind, one either has to reject the mind and therefore consciousness or reject a purely naturalistic science. Scientism is not all in the head, it seems.
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00:00 - Introduction
00:59 - The Human Consciousness Speaks Against Scientism
01:27 - Defining Our T...
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Other Sources Of Knowledge
Well, if science doesn't give us all knowledge, what are other sources of knowledge? Well here are three areas where we not only obtain knowledge but we tend to have more confidence in it - than even science.
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00:00 - Introduction
02:04 - Science Is Showy, Philosophy Is Talky
05:16 - Scientism Has Invaded The Church
07:56 - Scientism Diminishes Other Disciplines That Provide Truth
09:14 - Why Rej...
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Weak Scientism Is Weak
Ok, strong scientism is bad because it denies any other field the ability to provide truth and in making the claim it becomes self-refuting. But what about weak scientism which lets a few areas have their claims to help support the Science(TM)? Well even weak scientism is weak and must be rejected. Find out why in this episode. Or comment on it without watching it like the atheists do.
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00:00 - Intro...
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Lairs, Evils Beasts, Lazy Gluttons
We are taking a break for the 4th of July weekend but you can listen to the message I taught on Titus 1:10-12 to my (Patrick's) church's college group. Here I discuss the types of false teachers Titus will encounter on the island of Crete and why the Greeks on Crete are like the way they are. Having been reading Greek writings this year has helped in the background prep of this. Who knew a classic...
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Presuppositions Of Science
We look at how scientism destroys science by denying the ability to do science. How is that the case? Because scientism denies the six presuppositions of science. We discuss that here.
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00:00 - Introduction
02:59 - Science Has Presuppositions
04:53 - Presupposition #1 - A World Exists Outside Of Humanity
07:09 - Someone Actually Thinks There Isn't?!
09:17 - Presupposition #2 - The Nature Of The W...
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Scientism Is Self-Refuting
Now that we've defined our terms about scientism, what makes it so dangerous? Here we introduce that scientism is self-refuting. This matters because the claims scientism makes means that it then makes science impossible to do. Moreland gives six presuppositions that actual science rests upon and in upcoming episodes we'll look at those presuppositions.
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00:00 - Introduction
03:09 - Strong Scient...
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The Ugly Source Of Scientism
Where did scientism come from? What is the ugly source of scientism? Would anyone be shocked to learn that the love of war and government overreach has led to negative outcomes? This includes universities divorcing their ethics lessons from everything but the humanities. Now, the source for moralism in college is...football?
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00:00 - Introduction
01:19 - Scientism Has Led To Increased Hostility...
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Scientism Ruins Lives
Now that we've defined scientism, we have to talk about why it matters. How scientism ruins lives of us in our so-called modern world. It is exactly those ideas that the West, western science, and Christianity helped to bake into the culture that are eroding away. It's almost like a foundation has been replaced with sand and it's shifting.
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00:00 - Introduction
01:46 - Why Should We Care About Scienti...
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