He’s back! The great Vernon Mason returns as one of the podcast’s most popular guests to help celebrate this milestone 200th episode. He and Kris reflect on leadership, legacy, and what it really means to be present.
In this episode, Vernon shares his beautiful wisdom and journey from growing up in an in-home child care program to building and selling a five-site child care business, and now helping grow The Nest into a 52-location powerhouse. Together, he and Kris chat about the realities of leadership today including accountability, toxic positivity, turnover trends, universal pre-K challenges, and financial uncertainty. They also remind us that every day is a gift, and leadership is all about showing up authentically, building real relationships, and staying grounded in gratitude.
Key Takeaways:
[6:15] Kris, the bucket list queen, talks about her adventure to the Middle Fork of the Salmon River.
[8:09] Vernon is the only person to be on the podcast three times!
[9:19] Vernon talks about being the “trifecta” in child care. He shares how he grew his child care company from one to five centers before selling, and how that transition shaped his leadership.
[16:18] Is labor starting to stabilize?
[22:04] The mindset to get out of fear-based leadership, crisis mode, and the scarcity mindset.
[24:26] The difference between toxic positivity and effective leadership and management.
[27:33] Strategies for accountability and preparing for the u
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