Auburn Wins Bama Showdown, UConn Stunned + Houston And Wisconsin Large Road Wins On Our Saturday Nightcap! 2 15 25

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Well, college basketball fans, we are back aboard for another
Saturday night cap live on the college basketball coast to
coast platforms. I am merely the somewhat competent host TJ Reeves.
Hello to my Saturday night wingman, Jason Powers at JPO
Sports on social media and the Powers on Sports podcast.
Great to be back with you on all the platforms Twitter.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
X, Facebook, YouTube.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
However you're seeing us live and finding us. We love
doing this, Jason Powers. Good to be back with you.
As February rolls on and you know that March is
right around a corner, my friend.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Good to be with you.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
And when you have heavyweight matchups like we had today,
some dramatic finishes.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
We had a couple of big upsets.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
I know we're going to talk about that in the
Big East. Another one to two showdown with some history
made in Tuscaloosa. Great, great action, and again four weeks
from tomorrow Selection Sunday.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
And the committee has given an ear early reveal of
the top sixteen teams in their bracket.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
We're gonna talk about that straight ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Adam Zagoria will be here from NJ dot com and
the Zags Blog. Adam was on scene for the seat
and Hall stunner over yukon this afternoon, Jason, they win
in overtime off a nine game losing streak, the two
time defending national champs.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Go figure them.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
They beat Creighton at Creighton in the midweek and they
can't beat Seaton Hall. That's four straight times they've lost
to Seaton Hall in Newark. After what happened today, go figure,
Welcome to college basketball.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Couldn't happen to a better guy.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
And Danny Hurley, Oh, he was not holding up the
fingers going two rings to the seat and Hall fans.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
At the end of the day, he played at Seaton Hall.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
So we'll get into all of that with Adam in
a few minutes later in the hour. Matt Zimmick will
be here. He's not only our West Coast bureau chief
for everything kind of west of the Mississippi, but also
a resource historian, national writer of college basketball for a
long time. Love Matt's takes. He will be here on
a day that as seen as you mentioned, Auburn beat

(02:07):
Alabama and the one.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Versus two game on the road.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
How about Wisconsin goes into Purdue and wins Houston. Out
west where Matt is goes into Arizona and wins some
teams making statements on the road. Jason and Matt'll be
here later to talk about it, and we'll.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Also get Matt's views on Juju with the big upset
over UCLA a couple of nights ago.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Juju Watkins of USC amazing in the women's game with
the threes, the block shots. She is a ton of fun.
And the comparisons already starting up to Caitlin Clark with
the ability to score the scoring range good for the
women's game as well. And Matt writes for the USC
Trojan's Wire website from USA today, he's gonna be here

(02:48):
on all of those fronts in a little bit, Hey
say something before we get to Adam and our discussion.
Adam and I talked just a little while ago. We're
gonna play our conversation about the Big East, but we
cannot bury the Auburn win. Let's start with that with
tonight one versus two only the fourth time in the

(03:08):
two thousands that we've gotten one versus two in the
regular season of a game. It's the first time since
two thousand and eight, and it's the same two teams
from the same state. Interesting that that was Bruce Pearl
and Tennessee beating my Memphis Tigers, who were going to
talk about later in the show. Memphis was undefeated in

(03:30):
February of two thousand and eight, number one against number
two Tennessee, and Bruce Pearls Tennessee team won that game. Today,
Pearl's team was number one Auburn playing at number two Alabama.
They were up throughout the game. Alabama made the big run.
Jason and I are texting each other back and forth.
You're watching this, Yes I am, you're seeing that three Yes,
I did you see that block?

Speaker 5 (03:51):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (03:51):
I did.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
That's how you know. It's a great game. And Auburn
ends up pulling away at the end to win. What
are your thoughts having seen the the Tiger's latest flexing
of their muscle against the top teams on their schedule
and even more adversity.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Jenni Broome goes down in the second half with an
ankle injury, and we're thinking, uh, oh, they weather the storm.
He comes back in the game and plays really well
in the last five six minutes, has a couple of
key buckets down the stretch, a couple of blocks. Might
he have clinched the Player of the Year tonight, TJ
Maybe maybe, And how about Cooper Flag and Jani Broom

(04:31):
are in a two horse race and the rest of
the field is like Secretariat at the Belmont.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
You're looking back with binoculars on everybody else. It's those,
It's those two. But Broom is tremendous. The thing that
I am struck by not only Bruce Pearl's coaching, as
you briefly referenced, but they've got like seven guys speak
to this Jason, that are tall, the long arms, that
can defend, that can score on their own. They're not invincible,

(04:58):
but man, they have so many inner changeable players, probably
in the range of about six to five all the
way up to Broom at seven feet at several of
them are six eight six ' seven. I mean, they're
gonna be a handful SEC tournament and NCAA tournament.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yes, how about Denver Jones ding up Mark Sears most
of that day, playing really well, scoring and you even
have a villain on that team, Mazarro with another dubious
foul there and late in the game, a guy that
people love to hate in that league. Again, they've got
some villainism in them. But give Bruce pro credit. This
guy can win a game in the fifties and a

(05:36):
guy can win the game in the nineties.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
I mean, there is no doubt, all right, And we're
also aware we're doing this live on this Saturday night
again if you're hearing us. College basketball Coach to Coach
is also a podcast if you're hearing us on Sunday
in podcast form, live shows on Saturday nights coming in March,
live shows recapping conference tournament championship week recapping after NCAA
Tournament games are being played. We're going to be live,

(06:02):
but also find us on podcast at Apple, Spreaker, Spotify
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on Facebook, on Twitter. Thank you for finding us, and
look we'll go over the Wisconsin big win on the
road again at Purdue.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
They're dangerous in the Big Ten.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Bounce back win has just gone final at Champagne with
Michigan State beating Illinois after a midweek loss to your
Indiana Hoosiers. Michigan State bounces back, my friend, and gets
it done tonight at Illinois, pulling away late in the game.
So a day of the road teams again Houston at Arizona.
Also today e Miss, it goes to Old Miss and

(06:45):
wins a day for the road teams. Jason, just as
a theme one more.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Time, absolutely know you know again the first reveal. And
how about the history in Tuscaloosa, Bruce Pearl first coach
in the history of the nc Double NCAA coach to
win two one versus two matchups. You referenced Tennessee, Memphis,
Auburn Alabama today at two different schools.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
It's an incredibly guy that's ever done it.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
By the way, if you need them, that is now
ten quad one wins this year.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Nobody else has more than like six or seven.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
They've got ten of them. Auburn is having a great year.
Anything can happen March. Remember a year ago they lost
in the opening round of Yale all the way out
in Spokane, Washington. So anything can happen. And I don't
think several of those guys have forgotten that on that
Auburn team. But man, that was impressive today and Alabama
was valiant. They came roaring back, got the game tied.

(07:45):
Game was what sixty five all, sixty eight all, and
then Auburn pulled away at the end, making shots, making
free throws, getting stops. I mean, you better, you better
came with a helmet and shoulder pads into the lane
with those shot blockers, Jason, just one more.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
Time, No, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
They and again they can play on the perimeter, they
can play in the interior. They've got card Well, they've
got broom, They've got some bench guys. Mazarro's a good defender.
Mazarro had fifteen points or so today. Denver Jones is
kind of their defensive guy. He locked down Mark Sears
for most of the game today. They've got all the
elements you need to win a national title, and they

(08:24):
got a coach who can win a national title in
my view.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
No doubt. We haven't mentioned Duke and Cooper.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Flag and Company destroyed Stanford this afternoon. More on that
in a little bit. Again, it's college basketball Coast to
coast a little earlier in the evening, Jason, we did
speak with our insider, our analyst, Adam Zagoria, was right
there on hand for the seat and haul upset of Yukon.
Better than you and me going over that crazy finish.

(08:50):
Let's hear from Adam, who was in the rock the
Prudential Center in Newark, New Jersey, this afternoon, where Yukon
let it get away not once but twice and eventually
lost in this one this afternoon in the wild Big East.
Let's go to that conversation as we rock on here
on College Basketball Coast to Coast on this Saturday night cap.

(09:15):
As promised, he was ol on location for not just
one of the upsets of the day, but one of
the upsets I have to say of this college season,
particularly when Yukon Adam Zaegoria goes all the way out
to beat Creighton, then for whatever reason, they can't beat
Seaton Hall. This is four years in a row that

(09:36):
the Hall has gotten them. They got them in overtime
today in a crazy game. You were right there. Welcome
aboard on College Basketball Coast to Coast, the live show
here on this Saturday night. Where do we begin? Do
we begin just with the end? And what a is
it a steal? Did they steal that game? Did you
sense that Seaton Hall today they took it?

Speaker 6 (09:57):
Yeah, I mean it's for whatever in TJA, Seaton Hall
seems to have Ucon's number in Newark at the Potential Center.
I mean, this is four years in a row. Like
you said, they've beaten them there, and you know it's
a big win for Shaheen Holloway and the Pirates. They're
in last place in the Big East. But I'm sure
if you're the other Big East teams right now, you're thinking, man,

(10:20):
I'm not sure I want to play this team in
the Big East tournament. And for Connecticut, you know, Danny
came in there and just said, you know, they deserve
to win the game. We didn't put it away, you know.
I mean, there's you kind of trouble inbounding the ball.
They turned it over several times inbounding it, they missed
a dunk. They were up by five at the end

(10:43):
of regulation and couldn't hold on. They were up by
four in the overtime. We couldn't hold on. And just
you know, a little inside baseball like as a writer
and a journalist at the game, a game like that
is kind of stressful to write, you know, because you're
used to sort of like, okay, I know what I'm
running here. But you had to have basically two leads
ready to go there Seaton Hall wins and Yukon wins.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
So let's pick up on that point.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Because you do a tremendous job and you have for
many years, and you're running now with j dot com
as well as the Zags blog. To that point, you're
formulating in your brain and you're writing for Yukon has
survived this, They've they've stopped the chaotic mojo against them.
And then suddenly Alex Caravan can't get the ball inbounds

(11:28):
and Seton Hall has life, and now you're going into
the mode of the opposite. They're about to lose again
potentially here and Seaton Hall becomes a story.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Just give us a little more on that.

Speaker 6 (11:39):
Yeah, I mean, as a writer, like I had kind
of two leads ready to go, and then I'm like
deleting the Seton Hall's Gonna Win lead. I had a
death Taxes Seaton Hall beats Yukon and Newark lead that
I eventually went with. But I'm cutting and pasting that,
moving it out to another file, and then you're you know,

(12:01):
you got to keep your eye on the game and
right the running, and then you got to update it
afterwards with quotes from you know, the players and the coaches,
so uh, you know, it's a little stressful.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
So no, all right, back back back to that chaotic
ending because it's actually a broken play where Seaton Hall
almost got the two handed dunk and didn't kept the ball,
and then it's Dylan a day wu Su with a
hand in his face. Adam, what's your vantage point? Were
you on that side of the floor the other side

(12:34):
of the board end? Did that look good all the
way live?

Speaker 6 (12:38):
Yeah, I was on that side of the floor. It
was a broken play. He was open on the right side.
They kicked it out to him. And this is a
kid who had missed six of the last eight games
with an ankle, only had two points in the first
half and then had eleven of his thirteen in the
second half in the overtime. So you know, Danny said like,
I don't like to lose, but if I'm gonna lose

(12:59):
to somebody, I'd rather be my brother or Shaheen. So
you know, I think the Big East coaches kind of
feel good for Shaheen and respect him, and they know
it's been a tough year.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
There again, I love Adam Zagoria's insight. If you're only
hearing us on podcasts, come find the video on YouTube
and all the social media platforms. As we do this live,
on Saturday. If you're hearing it after the fact, it's
a live show on Saturday follow up, Danny Hurley went
to Seaton Hall and Shaheen. Holloway said, the struggles they've had,
it was a nine game losing streak. He has repeatedly

(13:29):
been in contact with Danny Hurley, who's been encouraging him.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Speak more to what you found out after the game
about all that.

Speaker 6 (13:35):
Yeah, well, I mean Danny said he said about a
year ago that when he retires he's going to donate
to Seton Hall's nil, which is you know, you don't
hear a coach from school a say he's going to
donate to school Be's nil too often. But of course
Danny's from Jersey City and he went to Seaton Hall.
He's been very supportive of Shaheen Shaheen. Danny told us

(13:59):
this week got a conference call that he speaks to
Shaheen occasionally off from support and then Shah said after
the game that he and Dan have talked and Dan's
a good sounding word for him, and he's supported him,
and you know, it's just a good bond. I think
those Big East coaches are on a group text and
they support each other when they're not, you know, playing

(14:21):
each other.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Love, love the insights that you have.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
So take us to the frantic finish again, Yukon can't
get the ball in.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
They finally do and solo ball.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
The player gets stripped and it's a broken play again
by Coleman who misses the initial layup and then puts
it in with Yukon out of timeouts. I mean, well,
and this is not even march Welcome to the craziness
that's normally reserved for march On that ending at him.

Speaker 6 (14:50):
Yeah, I mean, look, the biggest big picture I can
give is that Watson, this Yukon team is, this is
not a team that looks like it's gonna win a
third string now championship, right right. They had trouble getting
the ball in bounds. Look it happens it Seton Hall
plays tremendous pressure defense. But you don't come away from
that game thinking this Yukon team is, you know, gonna

(15:12):
win or even be a Final four team. Now that
can change in the next month. Obviously they got Liam
McNeely back, but yeah, the end of the game, just
a lot of broken plays. Seaton Hall forced to turn
over there in the paint. They get it to Scotty
Middleton and Ohio State Transfer Garway dual by the way,
a Providence transfer got that steal. At the end Middleton

(15:36):
gets it. Middleton misses a layup, then he gets to
tip in at the end Ohio State Transfer. Just a wild,
crazy ending and you know, devastating loss for Yukon, big
win for Seaton, Hall and Deara.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Did have a look from mid court Ala Caleb Love
that hit the front of the rim. I thought maybe
that was going in for a half Did you think
for a half second, Dara for the win for Yuon?

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Did chance?

Speaker 6 (16:00):
Yeah for half a second?

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Sure, yeah it did not crazy? All right?

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Two more things because I know you've had a busy day,
and again read more from Adam at NJ dot com.
All the way back at the beginning of the day,
the NCAA Selection Committee, the men Selection Committee, chaired by
Bubba Cunningham, the North Carolina Athletic director, did the top
sixteen bracket reveal the top four seeds in each part

(16:27):
of the NCAA tournament bracket. So interesting the SEC dominated it,
the big twelve and the big tanner in there, and
then Saint John's Who's in action tomorrow with Creighton Sunday
afternoon as we do this live on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Night, they do sneak in as the sixteenth team, the
fourth of the four seeds.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
What was your reaction when you saw that with the
Johnny's and Rick Patino.

Speaker 6 (16:53):
Yeah, it's funny, you said all the way back at
the beginning of the day.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
This seems like it was Tuesday, doesn't it.

Speaker 6 (16:58):
This is the second week in a row that we
something that happens at like noon or one. Seems like
it was on Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yes, yeah, I thought that.

Speaker 6 (17:07):
What was funny about that bracket reveal is Bubba Cunningham,
the North Carolina ad did not want to mention the
name of this of Duke, and he had to hand
off Duke as the number one seed to add him
from CBS Sports, right, But yeah, you know, the SEC's
got three number one seeds, as we expected. Auburn goes

(17:29):
on to beat Alabama here later in the day. The
two of them are ones. Florida is a one. You
know the SEC right now, three number one seeds. They
have three teams TJ that could get to a final four.
The only conference that I'm aware of for the last
conference with three teams in the final four was the
Big East. That's correct, way back in nineteen eighty five,

(17:50):
as is.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
The fortieth anniversary, and Saint John's was one of the teams.

Speaker 6 (17:54):
Yeah, when of course Villanova and ed Pinckney beat Georgetown
in the final. Saint John's is the you know, four
seed in the East. You could have if that happened,
a potential Sweet sixteen between Cooper Flag and Duke and
Rick Patino and Saint John's here in Newark, which would
be pretty awesome. I actually have a steak dinner bet

(18:17):
on whether that's gonna happen one of my colleagues. Uh huh,
you know, I think it'll be great if we get
Cooper Flag in Duke in Newark and for Saint John's
just a monster game on Sunday with Creighton. If Creyton
wins that game, they'll have the season sweep of the
Johnny's and they'll be in first place in the Big East.

(18:39):
If Saint John's wins, they create a two game separation.
You know, I think Saint John's, if they win the
Big East regular season and say get to the final
of the Biggest Tournament, could move up to be like
a three seed, and you know Saint John's is gonna
be one of these teams that nobody wants to play
just because of their suppression.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
And follow up on that again, both these teams off
of losses. But we know Saint John's for the toughness,
the defense. We saw that in the win at yukon
last Friday night. You were right there, but struggling shooting
the ball, struggling at the foul line. That can be
your undoing How concern should we be come March right now? Yes,

(19:21):
Saint John, Saint John's been winning, but in these one
and done scenarios, not being able to consistently hit threes
and consistently shooting poorly from the foul line, lad in
games that can haunt you, ken it not.

Speaker 6 (19:33):
Yeah, And also we should point out there without veteran
guard Davon Smith, he's a Utah transfer. Rick told us
this week that he's out for this game, and you
know he could be out for the rest of the
regular season. Now, what that does is it makes Kadari
Richmond have to play, you know, just about forty minutes
at the point and Rick pretty much said, I don't

(19:54):
have a bench to press he's going to go with
the starters. But yeah, to your point, they're not a
great three point shooting team. They don't they don't shoot
it well. Kadari doesn't shoot it well. They're known for
their physicality, their defense, they're rebounding, and they're going to
beat teams with that. If if somehow they could learn
how to shoot or get somebody hot from three, yea,

(20:17):
they are a really dangerous team. But they don't have
that right now.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
We shall see.

Speaker 6 (20:21):
You know, Creighton's are really always a really scary offensive team.
Offensively under Greg McDermott. I'm not saying I know anything
about Indiana, and somebody threw this out today, but you know,
how about Greg McDermott, maybe you know, just as a
possibility as an Indiana coach. Ye if he's interested, he's
probably got a great deal of Creighton. But he plays

(20:44):
a fun, up tempo style for sure.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
And they have won a ton they're including in the
NCAA tournament. We shall see what happens with Saint John's
and Creighton on Sunday afternoon. With that, I'm gonna let
you depart to him in NJ dot Com as well
as the Zags Blog It's only gonna get crazier from here.

(21:07):
It was already a crazy Saturday with the upset of
Seaton Hall against Yukon. You were right there in Newark.
All right, reload, rest and reload for the garden. How
by the way, as you depart, how tough is that
ticket at the Garden tomorrow? It has become a tough ticket, yes,
for Saint John's time.

Speaker 6 (21:25):
You know, close to a sellout. I was told the
other day it's not a sellout yet, you know, the
next Sunday, a week from tomorrow. Week from Sunday, Dan
Hurley and Yukon play Rick Patino St. John's and good luck,
good luck getting the ticket. Yeah, yeah, that's gonna be
a sellout.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
We'll see what kind of crowd they have tomorrow because
they've been getting nineteen thousand for these games. Uh, including
on the Saturday game with Providence a couple of weeks ago. Uh,
it is electric right now for Saint John's basketball. All right,
you'll be recharge the batteries. You'll be ready to go
Sunday afternoon. We'll read you on Inja dot com, the
Zags Blog as well ZAGG's blog dot com Thank you,
Adams Agoria, get some rest.

Speaker 6 (22:02):
Thanks brother, have a good night.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Love Adams Insight always here Jason Powers as he joined
me just a little earlier in the evening.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
We are live here.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
On college basketball coast to coast platforms on YouTube, Facebook,
on Twitter. I love him being right there for the
seat and the haul win. I mean, go figure Yukon.
They get a road win at Marquette, they come back
home and Saint John's beats them last Friday night.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
They then go to Omaha.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
And snap Creighton's nine game win streak, and then they
can't beat the worst team in the Big East. They
lost to the two four, the two and twenty fourth
team according to the net metrics, the net ranking from
the NCAA today. Wow, follow up from you.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Bad loss, bad loss and you know this is just,
you know again a little humble pie for Danny Hurley
for all the you know he he's he ain't afraid
of when his team wins a game. But again, hopefully
they're just not as good as that. They're nowhere near
what they were the last couple of years. With the
experience in the size you know they got they got

(23:11):
good player. Mcneely's a kind of guy who could win
them a game in the tournament, maybe maybe get him
to Sweet sixteen. But I don't think they're gonna go
any further than that at best. Just it's a rebuild
year and we'll see it. I don't think I'm gonna
tell you I don't think Danny Hurley will be there
in three years. I think he'll either be in the
NBA or somewhere. I just have a funny feeling he

(23:32):
won't be there in three years.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
And he just melts down. I mean, they've won national titles,
but we'll see. By the way we've been mentioning in
the nighttime action Michigan State a tremendous.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Win for them at Illinois.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Texas has just out played Kentucky in the final four
minutes of the game to beat Kentucky at home. Large
win for Rodney Terry against Kentucky. I mean, just I
know we're in the South. You and I are both
in Tampa Bay in Florida. I realize there's the Big East,
there's the Big Ten, there's the Big Twelve. We've got
these Western teams that are all playing in different conferences.

(24:08):
Matt Zimick will be with us in a few minutes
to talk about the West. But my lord, is the
SEC tournament going to be a battle royal like pro
wrestling or in the octagon for UFC?

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Just crazy?

Speaker 1 (24:22):
But I mean it's almost survival for whoever gets to
the semi final of the championship game, much less who
wins it, right.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
And I wonder what the Alabama's and the Auburns. I
know they want to win the tournament. I know that's
always great prestige, but do you almost take the long
game approach of I don't want to play four rock
fights in a weekend that have to turn around and
play an NCAA tournament game the next week. So does
maybe the top couple teams in that league, the Florida,
Alabama Auburns, maybe take it easy a little bit, meaning, yeah,

(24:54):
you want to win a game or two, but maybe
you don't want to have to play four games in
four days and that kind of an that kind of
competitive environment, I don't know, be interesting to see what happens.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
Another point I like that Adam made that.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
I heard another guy that I know made the same
comment about the Indiana job on the Problem my press
Box radio show that I do Kevin Brockway, who covers
Florida and used to work in the Indiana Bloomy used
to cover IU in Bloomington. He also brought up Greg
McDermott as a possible name that would be a good
potential fit there in Bloomington.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
And sure they can go that route.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Buzz Williams's name is going to be brought up from
Texas A and M because he's had previous success at
Marquette and Virginia Tech. He's kind of been Nick cron
Groan from UCLA. I know when mad Zimmit gets on,
he's gonna mention that name.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Two.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
By the way, the comments from Brad Stevens when reached
by Jeff Goodman, who's in Boston, he's based out of
the NOI uh, he says uh. First of all, whenever
these guys say it's definitely not happening. Nick Saban lied
for six weeks that he was not taking the Alabama
job and then settle down with guys saying they're not going.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
To take a job, and then they take it.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
But the comment he gave to Jeff Goodman was about
how happy he and his family are in Boston. It
was not an unequivocal. I'm not going back to college coaching.
I'm not taking the Indiana job. I'm gonna be with
the Celtics forever. This is what I want to do.
He was not anywhere near that emphatic about staying stay tuned.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
That's just an interesting name. Maybe maybe they don't want
Brad Stevens right in Indiana.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
I don't know, but this is the same athletic director
as we've talked, and you're an Indiana grad school guy,
same ad that wanted to keep Mike Woodson for one
more year and didn't want Dusty May, when Dusty May
has Indiana roots and had coached for Bob Knight and
was on the move and ends up at your rival
Michigan and is beating you last weekend at Assembly Hall.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
So in one more name, one more name. We talked
to Tim Brando on the radio show this week as well.
He mentioned do they go back to the well and
finally bring Steve off for at home potentially and out
at Nevada right out there? You know, do you bring
do you make the call to guy like Steve Alford
who still has plenty of press.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Junior with all of the dads and all of the
granddads and all the uncles. They all remember all for
The problem is the kids today don't remember Offer, they
don't know anything about him being any.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
But he plays an exciting brand of basketball. Offensive guy.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Again, I think that would be some name recognition if
you had to go that route as well.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
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(27:48):
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show is over, and I want you guys to weigh
in on this. We should mention, yes, the airing of
the grievances like Festivus, we gotta we gotta go over
several of them. We got to go over this a
couple of quick things. Sorry, So Duke annihilated Stanford today.

(28:09):
Cooper flag Tyrese Proctor combined for almost sixty of the
points in the game. I thought this would be a
little more competitive. I know Duke is off the loss
to Clemson last Saturday, but this is clearly the best
team in the ACC. What's their ceiling real quick your thought?

Speaker 3 (28:28):
I think their final fourth kind of team and then
Flag with Flag and they got enough other guys around
Flag that can pick up the slack if Flag is
struggling or if Flags again.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
We you know, Zagoria has talked to us in weeks past.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Flag's not afraid to pass the ball either, He's not
afraid to get other guys involved. No, Duke definitely is
the final four team. And I mean the ACC is
way down. I mean Carolina struggled to night at Syracute.
I mean, what is going on at Carolina? I mean,
I know Lee, I mean they are laboring. But you
know that's a that's a that's probably a fourteen league
bid made, maybe Duke, maybe probably Clemson, maybe SMU and

(29:04):
then probably maybe Wake Forest. So you're probably looking at
maybe four. But yeah, I mean, Duke's definitely a final
final eight, final four kind of team.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah, definitely Duke, Clemson in one today at Florida State,
Definitely Louisville and wake Forest by the way, Wake Forest
beat SMU at SMU Tonite and that helps him.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
That's a top forty quad one road win.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
But Wake has probably still got more work to do
to grab a spot as the fourth ACC team or not.
And one more here while we're talking about this, how
about Houston again if you're just joining us, Yep, they
go out and beat Arizona. This is this is on
the heels of having one at Kansas.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Earlier in the year.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
I mean, that is eleven straight road wins for Kelvin
Samson's team dating back to last season in the Big Twelve.
They have been not just neutral floor games, away from
home games, eleven straight road wins in a tough conference
like the Big Twelve. This looks like a final four
team again with that win early today in Arizona, real doubt.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
And winning it Michale Center is never easy. Matt Zemack
can comment on that when we have him on, But
I mean, Arizona's got a good team. They're they're a couple.
They're a second weekend team in the Big Twelve. And
you know, again, Kelvin Simpson just again rock fight. He
knows how to he knows how to grind out these
low possession games, low scoring game. I know Arizona likes
to play up and down a little bit more, but

(30:29):
give Houston credit.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
They just have They just have dudes that know how
to win games. They're not the most talented team, but
they got dudes that know how to win games.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
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Speaker 3 (30:41):
How about how about Michigan State comes back from sixteen
down at the half in Champagne to win the game
by double digits.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Another road win is Tho's team again off the loss
at home to Indiana, they bounce back and the Big
Ten Tournament in Indianapolis is gonna be knocked down on
drag out as well. With what Wisconsin did at Purdue
and what Michigan State did tonight to Illinois.

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(33:01):
Matt Zamick, Welcome to college basketball Coast to coast on
another Saturday nightcap.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
It's a shame that we have nothing to talk about
on the.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Heels of this latest Saturday, the third Saturday in February.
How are you, my friend? Where do you want to
begin with all the mayhem that we have seen on
this Saturday?

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Matt?

Speaker 5 (33:19):
Welcome, Thanks, and I think you know so many violent
late swings, like it looked like Kentucky was beating Texas
Texas with the late nine to zero run. Oklahoma leads
LSU by five with thirty five seconds left, and now
SU players scores seven points in twenty seven seconds, So

(33:40):
the Sooners are basically off the bubble. Now you know
that bubble's popped, and part of all these late swings
and a lot of these results, you're seeing coaches basically
arriving at the end of the line, like I think
Porter Moser, if he doesn't get fired at Oklaho Homa,

(34:00):
like he needs to as the jargon goes, seek new
opportunities somewhere else.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
I think.

Speaker 5 (34:07):
I think like that that tenure has played itself out.
I think Johnny Dawkins, you know, UCF loses to Colorado,
that's Colorado's first big twelve win. I think that's played out.
He's been there forever. Time to get a new coach.

Speaker 6 (34:22):
There.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
So a lot of coaches really arriving at in my mind,
the end of the line, and you know, maybe they
stick around for one more year, but like the fans
are just they're done, Like Oklahoma fans are done, right, Porterroser,
you got to think if if the ad isn't willing
to fire the coach, you know what, this is time

(34:45):
for a career reset. The coach needs to look for
an escape patch uh and and find somewhere.

Speaker 6 (34:51):
Else to go.

Speaker 5 (34:51):
We see this all the time in both football and basketball.
So a number of coaches on Saturday, they just hit
the end of the road at their current jobs.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
To keep giving you some rapid fire topics, all right,
So Houston earlier today has beaten Arizona on the road.
What more can we continue to say about the toughness
the defense defense travels on the road. They win at
Arizona in a game that could have gone either way.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Matt, go ahead.

Speaker 5 (35:19):
You know with Arizona, I'm down here in Phoenix. I
followed U of A Basketball for a long time. You know,
it's the same old story. Caleb Love and whether he
makes threes or not, it's just way too central a
determinant factor for Arizona basketball. They just have to have
more scorers, more options in the mix on offense is

(35:43):
just way too dependent on Caleb Love. And you know,
Tommy Lloyd, he got this team to be really good
this season. And it's a credit to him because you know,
I don't see the same talent that existed on previous
U of A rosters. You know Omar Ballo, you know
he's now at Indiana. You know they could use him
in the middle, like his braun really could have helped

(36:04):
out against Houston. But Caleb Love his limitations and also
Arizona missed a pile of foul shots, free throw awareness.
Arizona's not ready for March, and that definitely was a
central factor in that loss to Houston.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Jason Powers, get in here.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
One more coach? Do we think of right in your neighborhood,
Matt Zemick. Are the fans in Tempe sick of Bobby Early?

Speaker 5 (36:29):
They've pretty they're pretty much at that point. And I
think that you know at ASU, at Arizona State, you know,
lost to TCU tonight. Arizona State hasn't won at home
in like six weeks. He might get one more year
because you know, when you compare him to other ASU
head coaches, Herb Sendek, Rob Evans, you know, other guys

(36:51):
through the years, Herb, he's gotten to the NCAA tournament
more times than those guys. That might buy him one
more year. But fans are tired of the act. And
one one big note from this game against TCU, which
obviously I wouldn't expect either you, tj or Jason to
be following this like you had bigger things to do.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Not twelve networks, twelve network I don't even haven't.

Speaker 5 (37:16):
Yeah Kentucky Texas to look at. You had Michigan State,
Illinois to look at. I was, of course following TCU
as U. One other note, Adam Miller got ejected. That's
his second ejection of the season. Arizona State has had
four players get ejected and I'm not talking about disqualified

(37:39):
for a fifth personal foul. Four ejections this year since
the start of the new calendar year. And that the
point that Bobby heard is on hot head and he
can't control his team. It's terrible optics for a coach
whose team has gone straight downward. After what was a
very good November, Arizona State thrashed a couple of possible

(38:04):
conference champions, thrashed Saint Mary's, thrashed New Mexico in late November,
looked like a tournament team and it has come all
tumbling down. So Bobby Hurley, he's got to be thinking,
do I want to stay in Tempe or do I
want my own escape patch?

Speaker 3 (38:20):
How about how about the team that we maybe maybe
the most under the radar team in America had their
biggest road win in the history of their program.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
How about Texas Tech?

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yes, they keep rolling in the Big twelve.

Speaker 6 (38:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (38:34):
And to me, if I'm at Villanova, if I'm at Indiana,
I mean, obviously I'm I'm gonna make the really big
hitters say no. But we you know, Jason you're your
big Indiana guy, Brad Stevens has closed the door.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
Uh, but I don't has that door.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
I don't think that door is closed. You heard what
I say backstage. You heard what I said backstage?

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Did you not?

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Nick Saban lied for six weeks that he was not
taking the Alabama job, and that was not That statement
is not a flat I'm not taking the Indiana job.
It was I love being in Boston. They all say that,
so stay tuned.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
I don't know that the door close. That's me speculating.

Speaker 5 (39:22):
Yep. So if you are Indiana, and if you are Villanova,
because you know Villanova got trounced by Providence, I don't
see how you keep Kyle neptune at this point. You
asked the big hitters like you asked Buzz Williams. You
ask uh some of the other you know, really really
good coaches that aren't already at blue blood uh programs.

(39:43):
But on the matter of Texas Tech Grant McCasland, Yeah,
real deal, real deal. And remember he beat well, he
wasn't even on the court when Texas Tech beat Houston,
but like he inspired his team to beat Houston on
the road with you know, one of their best players
having been tossed unfairly. You know we covered that here

(40:06):
on college Basketball coast to coast when it happens. So
Graham McCaslin, if I'm an ad at a at a
high profile basketball school needing a coach, I'm going there
if one of the really big home run hitters turns
me down.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Several of our colleagues are weighing in. My phone is
going crazy. They're not commenting where we can see it all.
But our colleague Bart Heich is watching and he has
sent me three times Chris Beard will be the Indiana coach.
Chris Beard will be the Indiana coach. Chris Heich, I
get it. You think Chris Beard is going to be
the Indiana coach, and maybe you know I don't know.

(40:42):
I mean Beard Beard has moved around, like the offering
play to Church over the last few years, so I
don't know if he's going to be the Indiana coach
leaving from Old miss But Bart seems to think that.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
After Mississippi State beat them to night, I want to
stay in the let me. I want to stay in
the baseman.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
I want to move off the coaching stuff. I want
to move on to other stuff. So hang in there.
Let's move to Wisconsin and what they did at Purdue.
Matt follow up on this. Jason and I talked about
it earlier. How impressive was this?

Speaker 5 (41:12):
You know, to me, great guard in the national Coach
of the Year race. He's got to be top five.
You have to have a place for him somewhere in
the top five. Now where that is, you know, relative
to you know, my favorite is still probably Pat Kelsey,
but Rick Patino's in the mix. Todd Goolden of Florida
is in the mix. But you have to have a

(41:33):
place for great guard. Not just that Wisconsin's winning, Not
just that Wisconsin, you know, wax Purdue in Macki Arena,
Not just that Wisconsin's going to get a pretty solid
seed in the NCAA Tournament, probably like a four, i'd
say at this point. But it's also that, you know,
we know what Wisconsin basketball has generally looked like under

(41:56):
great guard and under bow Ryan An under Dick, and
this is not that great guard. He didn't just find solutions,
he found a way to reinvent with Wisconsin and the
way it played like this has been a high octane
offense all season. One is scoring over one hundred against Arizona.

(42:18):
They've been lighting it up since late November early December.
So not just the improvement, not just the winning, but
doing it in a very different way relative to what
we normally expect from Wisconsin. So that takes coaching skill,
That takes a lot of creativity and roster assembly and management.
Great Guard's been a rock star this season and self.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
Reflection to realize that's not going to work in the
nil world, in the transfer portal world, trying to win
every game sixty to fifty eight to.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
That point, I know this is now the stat that
in the last eight games they've played, they've scored seventy
five or more in seven of them, including today when
they got over ninety. How they play, shooting early in
the shot clock, three point volume.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
They are a team.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
To look out for come March. I'm saying that with
a proven coach. That's one games in March in Guard
and Purdue was really good too, and the Big Ten
again go figure where Purdue couldn't close Michigan earlier in
the week, Indiana beats Michigan State and Illinois beats UCLA

(43:28):
middle of the week, and now Purdue.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Loses and Illinois loses.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
And who's the other team? I confused myself the third
team that lost. Out of that, UCLA won in the
bounce back with Indiana. While we have the West Coast
Bureau Chief here, let's talk about that UCLA win and
a bounce back at Indiana here on College Basketball Coast
to Coast, Matt, how impressive was that Friday night? That
game could have gone either way? Indiana plays everybody tough.

(43:57):
They had beaten Michigan State. It was close and was
better at Assembly Haul. Give us a fought or two
on that if you would, well.

Speaker 5 (44:05):
You know, give given the state of Indiana basketball under
Mike Woodson, I think you know. I went into that
game saying, hey, if you're UCLA, you have to win
this game. And the Bruins did and it wasn't pretty
and it wasn't easy. Uh they have to work on
their free throws as well. Uh that that's that game
remained tighter than it probably should have been at the

(44:26):
very end. But you know what the thing to say
about Mick Cronin and UCLA this season is that, remember, uh,
he threw his team under the bus. UCLA lost four
straight games and Mick Cronin just tears his team apart,
tears his assistance apart, and we wondered, is this going
to have the right effect. And there was another week

(44:49):
after that sermon, after that Fire and Brimstone performance, there
was another week in which the wins still weren't coming.
But eventually it turned around. And so Mick Cronin deserves credit.
And I know we all get on him for you know,
he's gonna throw someone under the bus at some point.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
I think we're still good. Jason, you still got me.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
I didn't get the rest of Matt's answer, but I
think we pretty much got the answer on Cronin obviously
getting through to his own team. Matt will rejoin us
in a moment. I know, I hate to keep beating
up on you. I know you're an Indiana guy, but
UCLA deserves a lot of credit because Indiana played hard,

(45:31):
made shots, et cetera. Matt's back with us. Matt, we
got the entire point about Cronin getting the point across.
But Jason says something about the Bruins getting that road winning,
about those these.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
Are the kind of games you gotta win this time
of year. It's like Matt said's not gonna be pretty.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
Indiana has been competitive, they have not been getting blown out.
They've been playing tough. That's still a tough place to play.
Say what you want, that's still a tough place to play.
Assembly Hall. You know, you know they they went to
Michigan State and won midweek, So give him credit, Indiana
credit for that.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
But yeah, I mean Cronin, Cronan's.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
A good coach man. We know this guy can coach
tournament time. He's got players that you say, it's not
like they don't have players, just a matter of whether
those guys can play the way Cronin kind of wants
them to play and buy in.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
One more point about all of this here Big ten
tournament in Indianapolis. Again, somebody could really make a move.
I know USC, right, the USC Trojans wire they lost
to Minnesota today, but they've got two or three.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Wins, I know.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Or again out West they won some games early, they've
now gone into a swoon. I mean there they are
gonna be teams that are gonna be able to pull
upsets over the twenty four to thirty eight you know,
thirty six forty eight hour period here in this Big
ten tournament that might help their resume, right, Matt, including
some Western teams maybe.

Speaker 5 (46:53):
Yeah, I mean the Big the Big ten's looking like
eight to ten teams in the NCAA tournament. And so
when you get to the Big ten tournament and you
get to the quarterfinals, pretty much every game is going
to involve an NCAA tournament level team over another. So
for the teams at the back end that are on
the bubble or are close to the bubble, games won

(47:16):
in the Big ten tournament are going to carry value.
And this is in mark contrast to what we're going
to see and what we are seeing in the ACC.
I know you mentioned the Wake Forest sm you result,
that's a big one for Wake after the loss to
Florida State, you know. But with Wake Forest, it can't
lose to North Carolina State or Virginia or Georgia Tech.

(47:37):
Any loss in one of those games, well, you know,
it's basically a loss avoidance game. It's not so much
you get positive value from the win. You avoid a
negative fall. Way walk that tightrope and win all of
those loss avoidance games. But in the Big ten and
especially the SEC these games are gonna most at tournament

(47:58):
time and in the next few weeks, there's gonna be
so many opportunities to go up the ladder, like what
we saw with Texas tonight. Texas zooms up several spots
due to the win over Kentucky, all while Oklahoma, Georgia,
and Arkansas lose. So like Texas's odds of making the
NCAA tournament skyrocketed today, not just because of the where

(48:20):
the alarmhorns are, but because three other SEC bubble teams plummeted.
So that's part of the story in the Big Ten
that you're gonna get quality win chances at the tournament
and in the coming weeks.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
A team like Nebraska who's been hovering right there on
that bubble, maybe a team like Minnesota. You know, those
are the kind of teams that maybe half like TJ says,
can make a little noise in.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
That tournament a couple of games.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
I mean examples also like Arkansas you mentioned wake Forest,
any of these teams that are around first four out,
next four out, or maybe last four in Cincinnati. B Yu,
I know, I know, our buddy Chris dabberteam with blogging
thebracket dot Com keeps going down the list of teams
like Arkansas, Cincinnati, gear we go out west, maybe a

(49:09):
team like San Francisco, San Francisco out west where they
could score a couple of big wins in the West
Coast Conference tournament on a neutral floor, and maybe you
know that ends up meaning something same thing with Indiana.
Maybe at the Big Ten tournament, if they get a
couple of wins against important teams, it could help their cause.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
We shall see.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
I want to cover a couple more things Matt Zimmick
before we move on here on college basketball Coast to coast.
Let's go back to what Jason and I were talking about,
and that's the committee revealing the sixteen top teams they had.
They put them in the four brackets one through four.
What were your thoughts? Give me a couple of overall thoughts.

(49:48):
The selection committee chair, Bubba Cunningham was sitting live on CBS.
We all know this is going to change some over
the next three or four weeks. But they began doing
this bracket reveal for public city reasons and to hype
it up a few years ago.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
They revealed it today.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
It's the only time they're going to give us a
peak before the actual bracket four weeks from now, Matt,
what did you think about what you saw?

Speaker 5 (50:11):
Well, I mean, you know, three SEC teams on the
top line, that's one big story. So that means at
least one SEC team is going to be shipped to
a West Western regional most likely, like I don't, I
highly doubt that Duke would go west. So at least
one Florida was the West.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
I think Florida was the initial West coast I think
today if I was.

Speaker 5 (50:35):
Yeah, And another note, like I saw John Rothstein tweet
about this that you know Saint John's, if Saint John's
can play its way up to a two seed or
at least you know, if Saint John's can win the
Big East Championship and we have that big Sunday game
against Creighton, which is going to be enormous in that regard,

(50:56):
you know, Saint John's can boost its position.

Speaker 6 (50:59):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (51:00):
In the four weeks leading up to selection Sunday, there's
a there's a first round opening weekend and I believe Providence,
and then there's the regional. Like Saint John's is in
a position to potentially stay very very close to home
in the East. So like you know, for Saint John's
and other teams, like that. You know, there's real incentive

(51:22):
to boost your seed, boost your place on the seed list,
and get a very favorable pair of geographical placements in
the bracket first weekend, second weekend to get to San Antonio.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
And again for Saint John's, as Adam said, they have
Creighton on Sunday at the garden, they have Yukon at
the garden next weekend, So you got to take advantage
of those opportunities if they want to move up on
the seed line, especially with the SEC strength. I mean,
the SEC literally is going to have six teams on

(51:56):
the top two lines.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
It looks like five for sure, maybe six.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
So to crack that just because of the strength of
all of their victories, you're gonna have to win the
biggest games on your schedule, if you're Saint John's or
if you're Purdue or you're Wisconsin. Coming down the stretch
of the season, Houston, some of the different teams.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Some of those teams as well, or Duke. Duke's going
to be there.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Duke though doesn't really have a killer game down the
stretch of the regular season. It's going to be the
ACC Tournament. But I would have to think they're enscotched.
I'll use that word on College Basketball Coast to Coast
right now as one of the one seeds, two seed
at the worst, at the worst for Duke right about now,
all right, couple of more things that I want to

(52:43):
go over here before we're done. I've got a couple
of gripes and Matt and I were talking about this
off the air. TJ Aaron Grievances on College Basketball Coach Coast.
I want Jason in Matt's thoughts right number one, we
are still taking way too long at the review table. Yes,
I have said advocating on this platform places like tune

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in on Fox Sports Radio, there should be a mandated
time limit, like ninety seconds. Maybe Matt and Jason, you
believe it should be sixty seconds to look at the
replay and figure it out in sixty or ninety seconds,
and that should be it.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Boys, go around the room. Matt first, what about shortening.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
The length of these reviews that age us greatly just
sitting and watching them go on and on.

Speaker 5 (53:33):
Totally agree. You know, it's the Zapruder film, right, It's
nineteen sixty three on the Grassy Knoll. Every time a
ball goes off a couple of fingertips. So I think
ninety seconds is fair. I think that gives a little
bit of breathing room. Again, it still caps the process.
But the other thing, the other thing, the rule book

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needs to be rewritten for what I call an impetus
of the ball rule. In other words, the impetus of
the ball rule should be inserted into the rule book,
meaning if you knock the ball out of someone's hand,
if you or if you disrupt the dribble, it doesn't
matter if the ball is peeled off the fingernail of

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the dribbler. If we had an impetus of the ball rule,
it means the guy who's swiping at the ball, it's
it's out of bounds off that person. So then we
that would reduce the amount of reviews we would need
to have. Jason, No, I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (54:32):
I mean again that Allen m Auburn game.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
There were four reviews in the last minute and a
half of that game, and three of them were just ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (54:39):
I mean, what are we doing? Yes, keep it moving.
I mean.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
They had a review on the Wisconsin Purdue game near
the end, still a close game, and I thought Bill Raftery,
Jason I don't know if you saw this was going
to lose his mind on how long they stayed at
the table to go over this. For destroying the continuity
at the end of the game, man, I mean.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
To go ahead.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
No, it makes a great point. I mean, Bill has
made the common in the alabam Ober game just takes.

Speaker 4 (55:07):
The air out of the building.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
When you still got a competitive game, Maybe you reduce
the reviews, maybe the last.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
Minute of the game instead of two minutes. I mean,
I don't know, but you're right. We gotta stop.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
We got to stop giving the officials too many crutches
to go to the monitor.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
That's the problem, all right. So there's a good gripe.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
I got another gripe or two while I've got Matt
here especially.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
There are several.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Advocating for this, say Seth Davis of CBS and his
own outlet now The Hoops HQ is his latest outlet.
He's formerly Sports Illustrated, formerly The Athletic. He's banging the
drum to add eight more teams. There are some advocates
that want to add twenty eight more teams, a ninety

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six team field. You see on the screen if you're
with us on college basketball coast to coast, but if
you cannot see it because you're on podcasts, I put
the words zero need. There is zero need, either from
a competitive standpoint or a financial standpoint, to expand this tournament.
The only people talking about this are coaches and ex

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coaches that wanted more spots so that they could get
their bonus in their contract and or have a chance
to win NCAA tournament games because you let more people in.
Nobody else is clamoring for this. There's my take. Matt,
you first, and Jason.

Speaker 5 (56:28):
Okay, I'm going to try and provide a measured in
between kind of point because I'm not I don't I
don't automatically reflexively agree with the idea that the tournament
doesn't need expansion. But I would agree that we don't
need to have, you know, a team that's sixteen and
twelve overall, and you know, six and ten in a

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power for conference. We definitely don't need more of those teams.
But I've believed for several years guys that you know,
let's let's let's look at Drake for example, if Drake
makes the Missouri Valley Final and loses and doesn't get
in act, you know, and it's because you know, a
team that's seven and nine in the Big Ten gets

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in that's wrong. So like the Drakes of the world,
those really really strong mid major conference champions, you know,
they don't get the benefit of the doubt against that
middlane you know, seventeen and thirteen Big ten or SEC team.
So I've believed for several years that we should have

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a seventy two team tournament. So in other words, you're
adding just four spots and basically you turn what is
currently the first four in Dayton into the Great eight.
You're adding more bubble games. And the bubble games should
precisely be a Drake style team, you know, a mid

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major conference champion against one of those bubble teams from
a power conference. All four games play four games in Dayton,
and they're all on one side mid major champions. On
the other side, seventeen eighteen win Power conference teams. So
that is the small, narrow, specific and criteria based expansion

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that I believe should exist. But we definitely don't need
more average power conference teams, no need for that. That's
where I'm gonna find you agree.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
I think you have made a very compelling argument. I'll
follow up after Jason sounds off, I say zero need
for expansion of the NCAA tournament beyond sixty eight teams.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Where do you come down, Jason Powers.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
I'm with you, TJ.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
And people have to remember, every team makes the tournament.
Every team gets a chance to win their conference tournament
to get in.

Speaker 4 (58:49):
So it's not like.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
You can say the Mississippi Valley States of the world,
or the Tulsas of the world, or the Uabs of
the world. They all get a chance to win three
games in a row on a neutral Go win three
games in a row. If you're in the MAC, if
you're the io Owners of the world, if you're the
Drakes of the world. I know it stinks that you
don't get opportunities to play more often, but go win

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three games in a row.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Sorry, all right, So there's his feeling, and back to
your point, very measured, very compelling. The problem is they're
gonna come back as the committee and say we shouldn't
be restricted about who we put in. And so therefore
what you said at the very end is gonna happen.
Is you have this idea of four more teams with

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include the little guy, include the mid major guy. They'll
include three of the Power five is what they will include.
And if you expand, if you expand it to ninety
six with twenty eight more teams, twenty two of them
are gonna be the Power five. It's not gonna be
the little guy that's gonna be benefiting from that. It
might even be twenty four some years of the twenty

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eight would be that.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
I want to nail this down, Like if you expand,
it has to be specific, set aside bids.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
For I love the ideal, love I love your ideal.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
I got you extra bids. I love your ideal, I
love your ideal. But they're not in practicality, they're not
going to do.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
That with this.

Speaker 5 (01:00:19):
That's not what they're talking about. No, And.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
There's not a financial reason that you have to do
this because they're already making a couple of billion dollars
the most lucrative thing the NCAA tournament does. And if
you want more money, put it up for renegotiation by
opting out of the deal and watch how much more
money CBS and Warner Brothers, Discovery Slash Turner will still

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give you to keep it even at sixty eight. Because
Live Sports is killing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
It on TV.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
It's the only thing really left on TV that smashes
everything else and the month of March. So again I
use those two words zero need. We're talking about something
that there's zero need for here with this, and we
gave it a.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Lot of time.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
All right, Hey, I've got two more gripes quick one.
A third gripe ESPN cramming too many games the same time,
like Duke today on at the same time with Auburn
and Alabama and overlapping is the Houston Arizona game. Again,
ESPN in particular does not care because they in large

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part rule the sport and they have other interests like
the NHL Four Countries tournaments going on tonight on ABC,
and they don't want it competed with as much. So
we get multiple games in the afternoon on top of
each other, as opposed to some of it spread out
at night. Am I being too critical of games being
crammed on top of each other?

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Jason?

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
Well, part of it is what you made the point
before too many reviews is what's extending these games. Games
should be able to get over in two hours, sorry,
get they can get over in two hours. Take one
TV timeout of what not time out, but a commercial
shorten the TV breaks by fifteen to twenty seconds. Do
that six seven times during a game, you cut a
couple more minutes off the game. You know, maybe you

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change the foul scenario where you're not in the bonus
at seven fouls, Maybe make it eight or nine fouls.
Because there's way more fouling in today's basketball than there
used to be. Maybe extend the foul situation to where
you're not in the you're not in the bonus four
minutes into the second half. Like we saw the other
night in USF Memphis, they're shooting free throws like five

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or six minutes into the second half.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
Agreed, Matt taunts on ESPN cramming too many games together
them in specific.

Speaker 5 (01:02:43):
Well, just on Jason's point, you know, why aren't we
going to four quarters as the women do, right, because
it's five teen fouls per quarter instead of the seven
per half. Like you know, if one team in men's basketball,
if you get seven fouls with like thirteen minutes left,
it's just an endless parade of the fouling those thirteen minutes.
So the rationale behind going to quarters is that you

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reset to zero fouls midway through the second half. So
that's an easy fix for Jason's idea. And then TJ.
I've been banging the drum about two and a half
hour game windows for a very very long time, like,
why hasn't this been done? I mean, Fox does it.
You know, Fox is not the main college basketball broadcaster,

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but Fox does two and a half hour game windows.
There's absolutely zero you said, zero need for tournament expansion,
zero need to not zero reason to not have two
and a half hour game windows. This is absolutely nuts.
It's just obs thing in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
They're cramming it together.

Speaker 5 (01:03:44):
If you have a two and a half hour.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Window, agreed, They and specific because again Fox and CBS
are network deals and they're not trying to cram four
games into a six hour time frame. That final gripe
And this is interesting. Jason and I were talking about this.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
The other night. I'm renewing my ongoing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Ten plus year objection that there's no real regulation, there's
no national Supervisor of officials saying to these walking zombie
referees in February, especially late February, you're not gonna work
three straight games in three nights in three cities. Much
less four in four straight days for a lot of

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these guys that literally will work Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
Saturday right in a row in four different cities.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Because the NBA doesn't do this. It's the wild West.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
It's unregulated, and you get worse officiating because these guys
are zombies this time of year, because they've been doing
this for the last sixty days and they're exhausted. I
don't care what they claim, how hyped up they are
on caffeine or other things. The travel, the rigors of it,

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the delays that they go.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Through to get to these games.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Some of these guys get there maybe an hour before
game time. On some of these games. You look and
you see the same refs, and you're going, my god,
that guy's ref seventeen games this week.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
In our example, we saw.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
Joe Lindsey Thursday night USF Memphis, and he was in
Tuscaloosa today in Alabama, Joe Lindsay, And there's.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
A likelihood he'll be somewhere tomorrow or somewhere Monday night,
and somewhere again Tuesday. And Matt, you cannot convince me
that it does not affect the officiating and the human
element that they're traveling so much and worn down so much,
and with the game so fast, so physical, and bang, bang,
you're a zombie doing this. We should have a national

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supervisor regulating. You cannot work three consecutive nights. You cannot
work four times.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
In the same week. You can pick and choose you
want to work.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
But again my belief and I don't think this is unreasonable.
You cannot work three nights in a row. The NBA
doesn't allow it. And you cannot work more than three
times in a week. You can't work a fourth, a fifth,
a sixth game in a seven day time frame.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
It's insanity. Matt final thought.

Speaker 5 (01:06:20):
Yeah, I mean I used to officiate high school basketball,
so you know, but that that did not involve significant
extended travel. But you know, your legs feel it, right,
if you're working a constant series of games day after
day after day, your legs are gonna feel it. So
I've been there, I can relate. And it's like, you know,

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we have to regulate truckers, right. You have to have
rest stops, you have to have rest breaks.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
You can't just pile it.

Speaker 5 (01:06:49):
Yeah, absolutely, like these these things need to be regulated.
And I would say, and I don't know what the
policy is. The only way, the only way working on
consecutive nights makes any remote amount of sense is that
if you basically don't have to travel beyond a couple miles, like.

Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
If you're in a hundred mile drive or something like that.

Speaker 5 (01:07:12):
Yeah. Yeah, so like if you know, you work a
Saint John's game at Madison Square Guard and then you work
a Columbia Ivy League game the next day, and like,
you know, so you're just you just have like what
half an hour forty five minutes an hour of travel
a short car or bus ride. That's the only way

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it's workable. If you're being asked to get on a
plane and book go into a motel and go through
all the rigors of you know, logistics, getting yourself situated, no,
if you but if you can operate from a home base,
that's the only way any of this makes sense. And
I really be interested to know, you know, if officials

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are are being made to fly cross regionally, why isn't
that being rethought. I'm not presuming this, but I'm just
saying that is they are. Yeah, I mean that's my
sense that you do see the most prominent officials in
different time zones, very distinctly different locales, no.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
Fos, you see them in different time zones criss cross.

Speaker 5 (01:08:20):
Yeah, So like you should just be circular. You can
do lots of different college basketball games, especially in the East.
In the West, you know, where the schools are more
spread out, different story. But in the East, like you
can just work the small conference conference in New York, Philadelphia,

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the Carolinas. Absolutely, but you can't be making officials fly
long distances.

Speaker 6 (01:08:47):
So like.

Speaker 5 (01:08:50):
Quickly, I've been an official, so like I like that
game paycheck. Wouldn't we all like to get that big
game paycheck several consecutive nights. So you know, the middle
ground is okay. If you want that paycheck, you're not
gonna get every big sexy game. You're gonna be working
the smaller conferences because that way you can stay in

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your own bed or in one city over the course
of several days. So there have to be trade offs.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
Here, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
But like Tobacco Road, where you've got the three ACC teams,
but you're close enough to Charlotte, for example, or you're
close enough to South Carolina to Clemson, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
Atlanta, Okay, Atlanta for.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
The SEC and how many programs are around that programs
are near Atlanta or Dallas, pick one, Chicago for the
Big ten, in and around Los Angeles, and all the
programs in southern California and up and down the California
coast that you can easily.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
Get to to go work a game. That's what your
point is with that gright.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
By the way, we do have people watching and making comments.
My aunt d d Reeves, who's watching us in Tennessee,
says her gripe is nobody calls traveling or palming the
ball anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
I'm sorry that went out in the nineties.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
If it was ever there in the nineties, it definitely
hasn't been in this century. Right Matt right Jason on
calling traveling and palming the ball on the officiating, We can't.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
We're asking too much. I guess we're asking.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Sorry, Yeah, we're asking too much for the officials to
actually enforce that rule.

Speaker 5 (01:10:25):
I saw the seconds three seconds and the key doesn't
get enforced. And also the coaches box coaches technical don't
get enforced either. By the way, way the coaches box.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
The other night on Wednesday Night, in the Duke col game,
Jim Beheim is working the game and Cory Alexander is
working with him on ESPN with Wes Durham, and they
called a three second in the lane in the game,
and Jim Beheim said, I don't know that I've seen
that called in the last ten years of my career.

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Three seconds, he said, much less in this building, meaning
Cameron to go three seconds in the lane. So we're
right on the on the officiating gripe. All right, Matt Zimik,
you do a great job with the Trojans wire website
from USA today. I know USC took a loss today
to Minnesota. You're also running about the USC women and
Juju watchon.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
Do Juju Juju.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
What an amazing story she is out west with the
women's game. You've got Paige Becker's and Yukon in the East.
You've got Juju Watkins in USC. In the West, South Carolina,
the defending champs South Carolina and Yukon what tomorrow in
a made for TV women's game. So I know you're
running about all of that.

Speaker 5 (01:11:44):
Dude in Texas as well. It's gonna be a lot
of fun. It really seems as though there are like
ten women's teams that you know, pick one, any of
them could win the national champion, like, and so you're
gonna get some amazing lead eight games, you know, the
one seeds versus the two seeds, so many great teams.

(01:12:05):
You know, you guys are very generous to be here
at college basketball coast to coast, So I want to
be generous to somebody. We're podcasting about USC women's basketball
at Trojans Wire with a woman named c c clay.
My thoughts zero five to three zero on Twitter. C
c clay has a USC women's basketball YouTube channel called

(01:12:27):
Let's Talk USC Women's Basketball. The best USC women's basketball
analysis anywhere on social media. Check out c c clay's
YouTube channel. She does a great job for us, and
she deserves a much bigger platform. Check her out.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
Great prop And if you have not seen the bonkers
highlights of Juju Watkins and USC beating UCLA the other
night and how electric it was in the Galen Center,
And I'm talking about Juju's making step back twenty five
footers and then she's making like Matt Zimmick in the
open floor, blocking shots on the fast break. I mean,
it was wild, wild to watch how much she impacted

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that game.

Speaker 4 (01:13:05):
I want to see Matt Zevich below the whistle for
a foul.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Yeah it's an official with the striped shirts, and then
and then not review it for four minutes like weig
seeing in college basketball. Matt, keep up the great work.
Trojans Wire USA Today website, also the College Wire website
for the rest of college basketball. He's opening there. He's

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with us on college basketball coast to coast.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
Let's stay locked in for all of this as we
had to march. Appreciate you as always, my friend.

Speaker 5 (01:13:40):
Thanks to my party. Note BYU over Kansas State. So
that little bubble resurgence by Kansas State gone.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Took a hit, Yeah, took a hit tonight. Again. We
do not need We've already been there.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
We don't need eight more spots because we have a
tough enough time.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
Getting to sixty eight.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
That's another point that I didn't have on my litany
of reasons why not to expand is sixty five, sixty six,
sixty seven, and sixty eight. You're looking at and picking
the best teams already, best of the bad teams, borderline teams.
I don't need eight more, much less twenty eight more
there we go. All right, we got it. We got

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all the gripers. Matt, have a good rest of your night.
I know you're in the West. They're just getting started
out west right now on this Saturday. Be well, my friend,
see you next time it goes there goes Matt Zimick.
Follow him at Matt Zimig z E m E K
on social media, on Twitter, Trojan's wire website, college wire

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website from USA Today search those read his work. Have
we about covered everything else that we need to cover?
I mean, one of the few things that we have
left to cover is what's going to happen on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
Full disclosure that you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
And I saw the Memphis Tige, yeah, on Thursday night
in Tampa. What are your thoughts having seen them in person?
As they've now won eight in a row. That got
all these great out of conference wins. They're a great
debate about where are they gonna get slotted in the
NCAA tournament. They're in the field. What are your thoughts
on Memphis having seen them in Tampa Thursday night as

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you and I did together they.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Walloped South Florida. What are your thoughts impressed?

Speaker 4 (01:15:24):
If they can play like they did. They've got size,
they've got some shooters. You know, they've got a little
ball handling.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
You know, Penny seems like he's getting it together a
little bit from a schematics x's and o's perspective.

Speaker 4 (01:15:36):
You know, they've got they've got the tools to make
a move again. Can they play together as a team?
They were pretty connected to Thursday night.

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
Defensively, I thought, now USF couldn't throw it in the ocean.
I get it, But give Memphis credit and don't have
to give a little credit to our girl, Dominique.

Speaker 4 (01:15:55):
How about Dominie?

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
Shall we tell this story a story about it? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
So we are there and Memphis is walloping USF the
whole second half. The building's emptying out, good showing of
Tiger fans, probably three or four hundred Tiger fans in
the building in Tampa. Again, when you're winning, everybody wants
to come to the games. So we come down to
see my longtime radio buddy Dave Willoshan, who is now
almost to his fortieth year of broadcasting Memphis basketball on

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TV and radio. We come down to see him and
we're waiting to socialize, and we're sitting down there he's
waiting for Penny Hardaway on the radio to come do
the radio postgame show.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
And Dominic, who's.

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
Sitting with us, is a is a female longtime fan
of Penny Hardaways from the days with the Orlando Magic.
I would say she's what early thirties at the most
late twenties, early thirties. She said she had been watching
the Magic quote since I was a little girl with
Penny Hardaway. So she's there with a little Penny doll,

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one of the little Penny dolls that you have Chris
Rock's voice when you push the button, and she wanted
to autographic. She's got a Penny Hardaway Orlando Magic old
school jersey, and he was he was so cool to
sign it for She got a picture made with him
with him a cool moment with the fans, I mean
the empty, the emptied, the entire arena out and she

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was down there with us while we were socializing, just
a few of us, and Penny was reading to get.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
The shoe signed.

Speaker 4 (01:17:19):
She wanted the shoe side.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
She was going with her Penny. She had Penny Nike
shoes that she was trying to get him to sign.
She went all out, all out for her credits.

Speaker 4 (01:17:28):
Give give Penny credit.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
He was very cool about it, and he did the interview,
signed and took a picture.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
I will say this, I will put the hat on
Memphis is back in terms of resurgence and a top
fifteen program.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
I don't know how far they're going to go. In March.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
We got to see the bracket. They are the favorite
team of the American Conference. They play at Wichita State tomorrow,
who gave them problems in the game in Memphis back
about three weeks ago. If Memphis can spread the floor
and make threes, they're going to be dangerous against almost
any boy. And they already have beaten teams like Yukon,
Michigan State, Clemson, at Clemson, Ole, miss Missouri, San Francisco

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out in San Francisco. They can play with anybody.

Speaker 4 (01:18:10):
They guys maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
I mean they have blistered UAB in the recent uh.
They have been tested this year. Now they let's see
what they can do with with Wichita State. We saw
him in person. So again, this is a mid major
program that can maybe do some damage and be a
Sweet sixteen team. Penny Hardaway only has one NCAA tournament
win in his previous six seasons stand by for what

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the Memphis Tigers can or can't do. But we saw
him firsthand with the guards. How many alley oops to Moosa, Cisa,
the big Man, the African, the transfer. Oh, he was
making like Jason Powers on the rim, racking dunks on
the alley oop.

Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
Ain't dangers a wide body who can play a little
bit in the post.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
So we saw the Tigers. We saw the Tigers. Did
we cover everything that I think we were intending to
cover tonight? We've been here a little while, I think tonight,
but the tickets. Dave Wills Wolo helped us out, got
us a couple of tickets for the Engling Center. Shout
out to our buddy Jim Lighthall, the voice of the
USF Bulls going on twenty seasons as the play by

(01:19:17):
play man.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
Jim was with me for ten years as I did
the play by play.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
He's gone on for eighteen more years now, twenty eight
years with the program. Good for him for USF, for
South Florida in Tampa.

Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
They real quick, I know what do they do with
Fletcher at the end of the year, with the whole
abdoor raheem situation?

Speaker 4 (01:19:36):
What do they do therein.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
His lead assistant is the interim coach, a mir abdu
Raheem passed away from a from a serious illness obviously
in October.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
I don't know that they keep him.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
I think I think Michael Kelly may look to start
over with a bigger name if he can find it,
or an established mid major coach. Stay tuned, as Jim
was saying to us, and this is not a nuclear
secret here. If they win some games down the stretch,
they're at five hundred, it's a much more compelling case.
If they do not, everybody gets it. Everybody understands the

(01:20:08):
job is likely open here for South Florida in Tampa
and the coaching curausel. With that, my friend, thank you
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Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
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Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
Ghost Sleeves dot Com is a proud sponsor of our
college basketball Coast to coast coverage. Other than that, let's
see what happens Sunday with that Saint John's Creton game again,
Memphis in action as well.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
We're four weeks from selection Sunday.

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
Well. Shout out to our guy Bart Heisch for chiming
into nineteen ninety six Mississippi State Final Four at Mississippi
State with the company.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
Love Bart's insight.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
We've had him on College Basketball Coast to Coast our
colleagues like Tyler Jones, TC Martin out in Las Vegas,
Tyler Jone in the Big twelve Footprint, Ari Russell in
New York. Thanks to our insider Adam Zagoria on with
us tonight. Adam will be at the Garden for Saint
John's and Creighton. That should be a great battle in
the Big East Sunday afternoon. Again, we've been doing the

(01:21:15):
live show on social media. Find us on podcast, including
the podcasts that are out during the week at College
Basketball Coast to Coast to Podcast, Apple, Spreaker, Spotify, Jason Powers.
Have a good rest of your weekend. Thank you for
hanging with me on this Saturday night again for the
nightcap show.

Speaker 4 (01:21:30):
Got it any time there is.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
I'm merely TJ Reeves. Thanks also to Matt Zimach for
being with us.

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
Thank you for watching for listening on podcast all the
way through March of the Final four lock it in
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