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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, folks, we are ready to go with the
twenty twenty five Men's NCAA Basketball Championship Tournament. It is
our Monday bracket review show. Great to have you with
us here on the College Basketball Coast to Coast platforms
on YouTube, on Facebook, at the CBB Coast to Coast
Twitter handle, and even in podcast form after the fact,

(00:22):
I am merely the somewhat capable host, somewhat rested TJ
Reeves after a long and crazy Sunday afternoon, Sunday night,
and overnight travel night trying to get back from Philadelphia
after calling the win by Mount Saint Mary's in the
Metro Atlantic Conference Tournament title game Saturday night. They're a
sixteen seed playing in Dayton. They may be playing Duke.
I called that game. Sunday was a hillatious flight travel

(00:45):
day in the eastern part of the country and particularly
the Southeast, with bad thunderstorms in Atlanta all day and
all night. Jason Powers and I battled to get back
to Tampa Bay. We're back, and it doesn't matter when
we got back. It just matters that we're ready to
talk some college hoops, talk the brackets and much more
coming up in a second. Adam Zagoria, our insider from
NJ dot com and the Zags blog, will be here.

(01:06):
He was first hand there for Saint John's win at
the Garden Saturday night in New York as they won
the Big East Tournament after winning the Big East regular season.
We now know they're a two seed out West. We'll
get Adam's thoughts on that Florida's the top seed in
that bracket. We'll see what Adam thinks about the draw.
I got to ask him about Duke as a one seed.
Cooper Flagg the injury. Will cover all of that in

(01:28):
a couple of moments. Chris dabberteen from blogging Thebracket dot
Com also here in a few minutes. What did the
committee get right? What did they get wrong? Here's a
hint North Carolina beating No One is in the NCAA tournament.
What's up with that? Chris daberteen with us in a
few minutes. And also my wingman, Ari Russell will be
here from New York. He was also at the Big

(01:48):
East Tournament this weekend. I've loved Ari's inside for twenty
plus years on Sirius XM here on tune in here
on the platforms of college basketball coast to coast as well.
Can't wait for all of the conversation, where are the
upsets coming? Where are the final four picks? We're gonna
cover all of it, and without further delay, let's get

(02:08):
underway with Adam Zagoria of NJ dot com. If you
look like a million bucks on Saint Patrick's Day, although
you're not in green, although he just disappeared on me,
where was Adam on the live show? He was already disappeared.
We'll see if the internet gets fixed here in a second,
and if he jumps back in here. I was just
about to make a crack about Saint Patrick's Day there,

(02:29):
and I'm answering him right now. I don't know if
he had a technical problem or not that I didn't
see any green on him. Let's find out as he
jumps back aboard. All right, let's see if he's here
this time. I'm trying to insult you about not having
green on for Saint Patrick's Day, and you disappear off
the internet and ruin the gag. But it's good to

(02:50):
see you.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Sorry about that.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
I'm wearing blue today, I know green, but happy Saint
Patrick's to everybody.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
And I'm in Memphis Blue. I do have a green
Master's hat in the background back over there behind me.
But that's what I'm not Irish, either are you. But
we're hanging on St. Patrick's Day, all right. So I
just set it up with the viewers here on College
Basketball Coast to Coast in the live show, you were
right there. I must confess I did not see a
lot of the Saturday night game. But interesting that Saint
John's trailed in both games into the second half, won both.

(03:18):
I know, I'm repeating myself, how impressed are you with
how well they played again in the second half of
both these games to win the title in the Big East,
the tournament title, and now they're a two set at them.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah, I mean Saint John's is you know, they're about
as hot as anybody in the country, TJ since New
Year's Day. They're nineteen and one. You know, they were
down fifteen, I believe in the semi to Marquette, came
back and won. They were down early to Crayton in
the final, came back and won. And they just you know,

(03:54):
they just have it going on right now. All their
pieces fit, and you know, they've got a really nice
corps with veteran transfer guards in Kadari Richmond and Davon Smith.
They've got a big time scoring wing in r. J. Lewis,
who is the MLP of the Big East Tournament and

(04:15):
the MVP of the regular season. You know, they've got
a center in Zubie Edge of four who's really coming
into his own. He had thirty three and seven in
the semis and then twenty in the final. So you know,
this Saint John's team is is just red hot right now.
And now they're gonna head up here to a fascinating
bracket in Providence where you know they're gonna play Omaha

(04:37):
on Thursday, and then you could have you know, either
Bill self or John Calipari who are going to play
each other, with the winner to play Rick Patino at
Saint John's on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Just one more about the Big East Tournament and we'll
get to what you just addressed about the the NCAA
tournament coming up. Composure is a big part of how
you survive in March. Judge the composure of this Saint
John's team over and over again. Maybe they don't shoot
it as great as they need to, but they don't
get rattled at either end of the floor. They're well coached.
What about composure?

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah, I mean I've seen, you know, coach Patino in
several interviews point out that only Kadari Richmond on this
team has experience in the NCAA tournament. The other guys
don't really. So what he did was during the Big
East Tournament, he told them, you know, like in the quarters, hey,
this is the Sweet sixteen, and the semis this is

(05:30):
the Elite eight. And you know, he's trying to prepare them,
you know, mentality wise for the NCAA tournament by telling them, Hey,
you know, we got to treat this like it's an
elimination game in the NCAA tournament.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
So you know, that's how he's getting his.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Guys to be composed and you know, play up to
the moment.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Love it all right. So you just mentioned this, I'm
calling it the Power Coaches Pod. Saint John's with the
fifth seed, Omaha and then oh because they never look
at these things and they never planned them. We've got
Bill Self and Kansas against John Calipari first year in Arkansas,
so we're guaranteed that either Self in Kansas, Calipari in
Arkansas almost guaranteed. We can never say never, but almost

(06:17):
guaranteed they're playing Rick Patino Saint John's team. What about
the power coach Prade Pod in Providence.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, a couple of things.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
I mean, first of all, just I was going to
go to Providence anyway, you know, I'm going to follow
Saint John's and I have a lot of colleagues in
the business who are like, you know, kind of waiting
to see who goes where, and just as a as
a reporter and a fan of college hoops. You know,
that's the kind of the dream region where you want

(06:45):
to go to, right because you've got you know, three
Hall of Fame coaches here with Patino, cal and Self.
You know, Will Wade is going to be there, right
he's the McNeese State coach and he's obviously in the
mix at NC State. So there's a lot of big
time you know name and coaches.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Cal and South. You know will win. Sorry, So I mean, well, but.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
A couple of interesting things there is obviously what this
means TJ. Is that either John Calipari or Bill Self
is going to be eliminated in the first round, which
is kind of crazy.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, and then the winner gets a chance and maybe
upset Saint John's. Kansas appears broken to me, Arkansas gets
Boogie flann Back, you can speak to this. They seem
to be the more dangerous team to maybe beat Saint John's.
I don't think Kansas even beats Arkansas, much less not
beating Saint John's. What do you think? Just real quick?

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah, I mean, you know, my gut says Kansas just
because of all of the experience that you know, a
lot of those players have, certainly Hunter Dickinson and some
of those guys and Bill selfs won the tournament two times.
But yeah, Arkansas is coming in hot, and they've got
Boogie flann Back. You don't know, if get Boogy Flamback
will kind of, you know, could upset their chemistry a little.

(08:03):
But he is a tremendous player. But yeah, if you
get cal Pari Patato in the second round, that's just
you know, must see too.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
A couple more here with Adam Zagoria with us on
college basketball Coast to Coast again inj dot Com. Read
him he's already stirring it up with the coaching carousel.
I read that article this morning about the names Chris
Collins for the Villanova job. Maybe Mick Cronin Juicy juicy.
This guy's an insider, he's plugged in. We love having
him with us here on college basketball coast to coast.

(08:33):
What about the draw in the in the West as
it turns out, where Florida is the top team there
in the draw? What do you make of the West?
Florida is the top seed. Also in that draw is
Texas Tech and Maryland my Memphis Tigers. The sixth seed
is Missouri. What do you make Florida deserve to be

(08:54):
a one seed? We agree, and they're there with Saint
John's in the West bracket. Thoughts.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, I mean, look, I think he can make a
case TJ that you know, Florida is the best team
and most complete team, you know coming into the tournament.
You know, they scored two hundred and eighty five combined
points in wins over Missouri, UH Alabama, Tennessee in the

(09:21):
SEC Tournament. I've heard a lot of you know, Seth
Greenberg and a lot of analysts kind of comparing them
to to Yukon in recent years. You know, call them
the Noah's Ark of basketball. They have two players at
every position. You know, they put up a lot of points,
and you know, they've got a tremendous guard in Walter
Clayton and the big guys. So Florida is going to

(09:44):
be you know, a real handful for anybody. And certainly
you know one of call it three SEC teams that
can that could make the final four.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
One more do we see that up on the screen
as we do this live on a Monday and the
Bracket Review show on college basketball Coach Duke in that
East bracket again, Alabama at the bottom of it, along
with Wisconsin is the three, Arizona's the four, Oregon the
five Cooper Flag. I don't think he plays in the
one to sixteen game. They don't have to play him there.

(10:14):
The eight nine game Mississippi State Baylor could be intriguing.
What about Duke in the East bracket? What do you think?

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Yeah, I agree, I think they probably will stick Coop
out for the first game. You know, you don't have
to play in a one sixteen game, and then I
think he comes back for that Mississippi State Baylor game.
Obviously those games are going to be up here. Regional
will be up here in Newark, you know, I think, uh,
I think that BYU. You know VCU game could be

(10:44):
really interesting. BYU has been pretty hot of late. You know,
Akron is a thirteen against the four Arizona. A lot
of people like Akron as a team that you know,
knows how to win. That that could be interesting. Alabama
is you know, just again a capable of putting up
a ton of points. So I expect them to come

(11:05):
through and I you know, I think you'll probably have
go chalk and see a Duke Alabama final there in
in Newark.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah, it will be interesting for all of this to unpold.
We got to charge the batteries up.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
We got asked about the West.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
We passed that earlier, you mentioned it, but you know
you've got Connecticut there. Yeah, two time defending champ as
an eight seed TJ taking on Oklahoma. You know, Oklahoma
was undefeated in the non conference outside of the SEC,
and that is just, you know, a really tough draw
for Dan Hurley and the Huskies because you know, you

(11:42):
got to play an SEC team there in an eight
nine game, and then even if you win, you know
you're gonna get Florida on Sunday, which is gonna be
a you know, a handful.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
They put Gonzaga in an eight nine game in front
of Houston. They put Yukon in an eight nine game
in front of Florida. Thinking about the second round, they
put Louisville potentially or Creighton in front of Auburn in
an eight nine game made for TV. Spots on Louisville crighton.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Games you know should be great.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
It should be a lot of fun on that out
of the South bracket. Listen, charge the batteries up. We
got plenty more to do later this week, et cetera.
I know you had a multiple providence. We're all good.
We have a bracket, and here we go with the
NCAA tournament. My friend, I always appreciate the insight. Keep
up the great work on NJ dot com. Read him
also on the Zags blog. Thank you, Adam Zagoria. Great
stuff on the bracket review show.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
All right, enjoy the madness, everybody have fun.

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(13:41):
All right, let's continue on on this bracket review show
and say hello to my colleague Chris dabberteen. I love
his insight from blogging the bracket dot com. My friend,
it is always good to be on with you. I'm
sorry that we could not do this on selection a
Sunday night because of our mayhem. My colleague Jason Powers
and I were like, you'll love this, Chris, like John
Candy and Steve Martin planetrains, automobiles. There was a moment, Chris.

(14:04):
There was a moment in the Hartsfield airport with every
flight delayed and canceled where I'm looking at him, going,
are we going to the rental car counter to drive
from Atlanta to Tampa in the middle night because of
work duties today. I don't know, Chris, that we would
have ended up in the back of the pickup truck
with the hogs like John Candy and Stif Martin driving
on planes, trains and automobiles with the family. But we

(14:27):
were contemplating that we got home. We have a bracket.
It's good to be with you, It's good to talk
to you about all this.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
Glad to be with you. Tenji had a similar situation
trying to leave south By Southwest in twenty sixteen where
we missed the flight because you know, you know security.
The was a mile long and we missed it, and
four of us just got together, got a rental car,
drove from Austin to DFW. During that time, I'm explaining,

(14:55):
you know, bracketology to everybody.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
In the car.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
You can never you can never have enough breakdown. But yeah,
you had to do that. You had to go a
little car make it work. But yeah, so yeah, a
few hours late, but we made it back to Chicago. Well,
we've only had a few hours sleep to digest what
we saw from last night. I always love this with you,
So let's start with the number one seed. I would
assume that you agreed with all of this, Chris, Florida

(15:22):
deserved it because they won the SEC tournament around Houston,
Duke and in Audurn.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
Yeah, oh absolutely. I mean it was the case where
it was going to be either Florida or Tennessee. If
you actually think about, you know, the way that things
are kind of done by the committee, there could have
been a different answer, but you know, that's kind of
what they went with. That's what they stuck with ever since,
you know, the reveal back four weeks ago. So no,

(15:47):
not look not paying attention to really the last ten
or fifteen games of the season, I think is really
one of the biggest things that has really kind of
jumped out of me as being a flaw in the
selection seating, bracketing process in this present era of college basketball,
with the transfer portal and a lot of team changes.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
I know, you lean Florida, I'm more than lean Memphis.
I go off the high dive in the deep end
with Memphis. Yeah, how but okay, throw any Orange and
Blue fandom out the window. How impressive was that to
bury Missouri, Alabama and Tennessee in the second half like
they just did in Nashville. It's not everything, but how
impressive was it for the Gators.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
This is a team that, to me, really understands how
to make adjustments. And one thing that you know, putting
the fan hand hat back on. One thing that drives
me crazy about Todd Golden is there's a lot of
times when he does not call time out when we
absolutely when they absolutely need one. That happened once in

(16:49):
Sunday's game, but they, I mean, those halftime adjustments that
he makes really I think are the big difference. They're
doing a really great job in terms of analytics. I
think they do a lot quite a bit in game
two to kind of get that stuff, you know, during
those fifteen minutes, which of course will be a little
bit longer during the tournament, so that'll be a big help.
But I really think that you have and this is

(17:11):
the really the biggest factor for me, it's the players.
And you have veteran guards, you have you know, a
front line that is really just kind of unbelievable. You know,
the amount of depth they got, especially bringing Michael handlelogged
in back. And I think that the seniors are really
what drives the bus. And I don't think you know,
at one point I said yesterday Walter Kuyton junior.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Is not going to let them lose this game.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
That's right. And I think you see that.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
Over and over again, especially over the past month when
they've gone to Auburn and they've gone to Alabama and
they've you know, won three neutral court games in Nashville.
That's the thing that I think really is the biggest driver.
That they have leadership that I don't think any other
team in the country has well.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Chris Donbertin's insight blogging the bracket dot Com. You're seeing
Chris's avatar that smiling face. He's smiling because the bracket
thing is over with trying to figure out who's in,
who's out, and what do they do. They've now revealed
the bracket that selection committee for twenty twenty five. All right,
let's get right into it with the different controversy. So

(18:16):
North Carolina and Texas get in, a Indiana, West Virginia
and Boise State are out. I was monitoring your blogging
about the first four the last four in and the
first four out. Yeah, you did not believe North Carolina
was going to be in. Neither did anybody else. What
did I see on the matrix? One hundred and eleven bracketologists,

(18:37):
including Joe Lonardi, including you, including Mike de Corsi and
Jerry none of them, none of them had West Virginia
out of the tournaments. But this committee had them out
of the tournament and didn't put them in. North Carolina
is in with one quad one win without a significant
win against anybody since January one. What are your thoughts
with what they did last four in, first four out.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
Crew, I think they really screwed it up. I also
think that there was a fair amount of inconsistency, and
that was, you know, writing my recap piece this morning.
You know, that was kind of the biggest thing for me,
is that they're just again, this is every year, but
really it was noticeable this year, the amount of inconsistency
in you know, whether the metrics, including the new metrics,

(19:22):
are important, whether winning games away from home is important,
whether quality wins period is important. It just kind of
just and it just kind of fluctuates all over throughout
the bracket, and then you get to the bottom and
the thing and Amon Brennan pointed this out in his
newsletter that I had completely forgotten about. They went almost
to a third degree in terms of leaving West Virginia

(19:44):
out because one of the one of the reasons was
was that, you know, oh, they beat Iowa State, but
Iowa State also had injuries then, And I'm like, I
have never I have been doing this since two thousand
and six, and I have never heard a election committee
chair saying something like that.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Right, yeah, I think they were grasping because West Virginia
had many more quality wins, so did Indiana. Oh, by
the way, does it matter that they beat Michigan State
at Michigan State at the end of the year, I
think exactly, does it matter that they beat Purdue North Carolina. Again,
I'm picking on it. They beat No.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
One.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
They had two chances at Duke, didn't win either game.
They didn't want a significant game, and yet they put
them in. What about Texas? I felt all along, I said,
all along, they're gonna put them in after the two
wins on the neutral floor in Nashville that they got. Yeah,
including beating Texas, A and M, they're in. Do you
believe they belonged in?

Speaker 4 (20:40):
I have them ahead of North Carolina, but I still
had them out. And again, this is another thing the
Committee always preaches about non confert scheduling. If you're good,
if non conference scheduling is important, then Texas should not
be in because they're not.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Schedule was just.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
But then you could also say the same thing about Indiana.
So again, can consistency? Consistency? Consistency? You know, that's the
thing that's kind of been driving me crazy over the
past you know, eighteen hours no.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah, but this man does it all year long. He
blogs the brackets all through the college basketball season, and
now we're here. It's like the presents are being opened
for Christmas. All right, So let's just pick up on
that point, including seating and where they placed this team
versus that team. Did the committee get something right led
by Mubvick Hounningham the North Carolina app latter or did
they get something right? Because I know you believe they

(21:30):
got plenty.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
Raw Okay they did, because that surprised me when I first,
you know six oh four or whenever you know Eastern
that popped up yesterday, when they had you know, Auburn
and then Louisville and Creyton and you know in Lexington,
I'm like, you know, this is this is what? Yeah,
this is not good and that first, you know, going
through that entire first seth region, I'm like, I don't

(21:52):
like what I'm seeing here. But when all of a
sudden done this was like this was the best job
picking a bracket that I've done in about four years.
So yeah, I was able to kind of figure out anticipate,
you know a lot of the things the committee was
going to value and where they're going to value it.
But there it still wasn't consistent enough to be, you know,

(22:15):
any better than that.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
And bear in mind they had to deal with fourteen
as the teams. Fourteen of the sixteen made it, and
they're trying to avoid second round matchups by policy Chris
of the same conference. But it's almost impossible with fourteen teams, right,
speak again real quick.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
It is, yeah, because I'm looking through it here. I mean,
you know, Florida is going to have one potentially against Oklahoma,
if you know Oklahoma could beat Yukon.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
You know.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
The first one that really jumped out of me was
Alabama Vanderbilt, and Vanderbilt, you know, I thought was a
team that had get had slid down and was gonna
end up being in Dayton, and they ended up getting
in safely. And when I saw that, I said, yeah,
that's gonna be good news for Arkansas, Oklahoma and probably
Texas that that actually happened. Oh, you're gonna have Yeah.

(23:03):
It's really kind of very difficult to do. And even
if you had gone back to how they used to
bracket things, you would have still had a very difficult time,
you know, trying to separate teams simply based on you know,
keeping teams away from each other from the same conference
still delight and all that, because you just have too
many teams.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah, because the Big Ten and the SEC have fifty
seven teams each and so it's right, Yeah, I'm exactly Yeah,
you're trying to figure all that out, all right. I
was curious about this. Again, obviously I'm biased. There were
a lot of possibilities where Memphis could go after winning
the American Conference tournament, like Wichita, like Lexington, like Raleigh
that are around them. They're in Seattle, my friend, explain further.

(23:47):
I understand the why, but explain further on why Memphis
being a fifth seed and beyond made this possible and
they shipped them out to the Pacific Northwest.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
You know, the memphisis placement was one of those things,
you know, be because you know, looking.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
At kind of how they've been traditionally handled.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
Usually it's like, you know, Memphis has some really good
non conference results, you know, trips up a few times
in the American during conference play that you know, deflates
their metrics that ends up getting the pushed out of
seven or eight or nine. But this time, you know,
they had really again, really just really incredible non conference results,

(24:26):
same type of thing, but not quite as many stumbles
in American play this year. But you still expect that
Memphis is probably gonna be set, you know, but their
metrics are still not great. You still figured they'd be
seven or eight, then getting the five, and at that
point it's just a matter of you know where the
bracketing is. I'm kind of looking at the other teams

(24:46):
right now. You've got Clemson as a five. You've got
Michigan is a five. Michigan is a five. Michigan was
the one I think that really messed things up because
both Michigan was considered going to den Ever going on
Thursday at altitude and right there, that to me is like,
this is why you need to take time and bracket properly.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
I think that's really what sets your point. Forget about
Memphis anymore to your point on what they got wrong.
More than one Michigan person media and fan is pointing out,
let me get this trait. We beat Purdue, we beat Maryland,
we beat Wisconsin, we win the Big Ten Tournament, and
you're making us go to Denver in the altitude and
play right away on Thursday. Yes, it's what you just said.

(25:30):
To follow it up, It's almost like they disregarded whether
they're winning Saturday and Sunday and the Big Ten Tournament
really meant anything.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
Well, yeah, this is what happened in twenty seventeen too,
because remember they've won the Big Ten tournament, is the
eighth seed, but they were still you know, a really
you know, they were still kind of in the five
to sixth range. They end up being seen seventh. They
seemed to have dropped based on that, based on winning
those and I think they won four games that year. Interesting,
So I mean, it really really makes no sensey Sunday games.

(25:58):
The other example that I pointed out, if you go
back to twenty eighteen, Penn won the IVY, but they
were clearly kind of a team that was kind of
like a fourteen. They had a really good profile. Harvard
was the one seed though because the tie breakers, Harvard
was there for the placeholder. On Sunday, Harvard loses pen
gets put in that sixteen slot, it gets, you know,

(26:20):
run over by Kansas.

Speaker 5 (26:22):
Interesting.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
I love Chris is insight. One more, let me let
you have fun. Do you have an upset pick or
two double digit seeds that would be considered an upset
don't say Colorado State, I don't stand out.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
I think high Point has a really good shot against
Perdue because I think Purdue was seriously overseated.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
What I think what's the I know they went to
the final four last year, but what's the list, Chris.
It's like Little Rock, Saint Peter's, who else? Who else
got him? I think, did North Texas get him one
year with Matt Baer, No, now I don't think so nothing. Yeah,
but Little Rock got him one year, Saint Peter's got
him one year, and somebody else got him as a
double digit seed. And you're saying, what.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
I think high Point has a really good chance in
that one. That's really kind of the one.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
That really no goal five is coming. If it's not
Colorado State and Memphis, is it McNeice, Clemson?

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (27:22):
You see San Diego and Michigan, although Michigan is on
a roll, is it maybe Liberty and Oregon in the
twelve five? You know one of them, maybe a couple
of the twelves are gonna win.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
I was originally kind of thinking you see San Diego
for Michigan. Kind of went away from that because you
see San Diego choose a lot of three, so there's
a lot of variants there. But I think, especially with
Michigan having to play at altitude, even though San Diego
it's not gonna be much help for them, but they
also don't have to worry about quite as much in
terms of you know, going two time zones over. They're

(27:55):
all going one time zone over. That'll help. I think
that might be one.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Liberty.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
Oregon I think is probably the one that really kind
of stands out because Oregon is seen where they need
to be, but they also are a very another kind
of team where the variants in performance. If the wrong
version of Oregon shows.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Up, that's not good for them.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Well, I think that, and Chris, Oregon has size with
Biddle and with others, and I don't know how much
that that liberty can contain with that. We'll see. Yeah,
we are not saying give me liberty or give me
death in that twelve five matchups. Anything else that I
left out with Chris Dabertina blogging the Bracket dot com,
anything else my friend or we good?

Speaker 4 (28:35):
Just yeah, I guess besides having you know, complaints, I
had some potential fixes in my post of today on
blocking Thebracket dot Com and I'm going to actually probably
be as the off season rolls on, I'm gonna have
some thoughts on kind of the way that we can
kind of fix the way college basketball schedules.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
And.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
You know, does the postseason, especially now that we have
this whole schism between the n and the College Basketball.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Crown right because Fox took teams I haven't even looked.
They took teams out of the Big East, the Big Ten,
and the Big Twelve. And they're gonna play in Las Vegas,
not in the n I I the West.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
Interesting the American ers in there, even though they don't
have a financial tie with Fox. It's a very very
interesting bracket.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Listen, you have done tremendous work. I'll circle back to
you at some point during the tournament. Great stuff with
blogging the bracket dot com. Go read Chris's thoughts. You
get an excellent job with the seedings and the predictions.
I always love having you on College Basketball Coast to Coast,
on the social platforms and the podcast. Thank you again.
I bow to you on the video. Thank you again,

(29:40):
Chris Dabberty.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
Thank you TJ.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Love love having him here with us again. We're live
on a bracket review Monday. Ari Russell coming up, who
was on hand for the Saint John's win at the Garden.
I want Ari's thoughts on the overall bracket and the
seating process. But we've got a special guest, another sponsor
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Speaker 5 (30:40):
Thanks for the kind of intro TJ. Yeah, definitely big
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Speaker 1 (30:50):
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about this time of year, though, is the little guy
gets the chance, right Roy, the upsets they make this happen,
the unpredictability, tell me a little more about I mean,
we love this because there there's at least five, if

(31:13):
not ten games this month that will defy explanation. How
did that happen?

Speaker 5 (31:17):
We love it because of that absolutely, as you remember,
right coming back from you know, the NC.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
State right last year.

Speaker 5 (31:26):
Yeah, and then you have Davidson when Steph Curry was
still playing. Love upsets, we know, right getting into it,
whichita back in the days. But yeah, definitely lots of upsets.
I love Cinderella teams to be honest.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Yes, they seem to make this tournament and fell Right now,
do you have a team I mean, everybody's talking about Duke,
everybody's talking about Auburn, whether it's the Big Ten, maybe
it's Saint John's in New York. Right, So you're in
the West where we always have like Gonzaga and UCLA
and Arizona. Do you have a team that you really
favor right now that you're really looking out for we're
in March.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
Roy, Yes, absolutely, although this team lost to Gonzaga the
other night, Saint Mary's is really strong. And you also
used to played in Auburn. So Auburn is the kind
of like my top seed team for those who I'm
rooting for.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
And Saint Mary's a small school in northern California, small
private school, and they've really built a little empire, a
mini m I and I a mini empire out of
northern California. And they have two wins over Gonzaga this year.
So and Auburn again, Bruce Pearl's team, I know you
played at at the professional level in the Philippines and elsewhere.

(32:40):
They I mean, they look like they have four or
five guys that can be in the NBA with their length,
their size. Would you agree with that? Auburn. I'm not
saying they're unbeatable, but they I mean, they've got a
pro type talent roster. Do you agree?

Speaker 5 (32:52):
Man? You give me shivers down my spine when you
talk about you know, the pro the pro caliber right
that's already note there are men right. Yes. It reminds
me so much of remember the UNLV team. Yes, five
guys were ready to go right to the pros, but
they stayed. They played together with you know, you had Anthony.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Harry Johnson, Mary Jo Stacey Augman, all Ironman Anderson Hunt.
They were all first round picks. They were all first
round picks.

Speaker 5 (33:21):
Absolutely, So it reminds me so much of that because
they're strong inside and they have a shooting range. So
I think, I think it's Auburn, but you know, I
gotta you know, I got a root for the underdogs too.

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So yeah, definitely, we love all of this. Roy Correo
is here with me just for a few more moments
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future is later on down the run. I'm talking about
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But you've got a couple of things that you want
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This is coming soon, right, You've got a legging show

(36:18):
on the legging here and what that's gonna do for
people that are working out in particular for their hamstrings,
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Speaker 5 (36:24):
Go ahead, Roy, Yeah, this is the prototype. So this
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So that is coming soon from Ghost Leaves, and also
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He's modeling it right now. If you can't see us,
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(37:38):
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(38:05):
not just for those that may be intensively working out
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Speaker 5 (38:15):
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(38:35):
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Speaker 1 (39:20):
But you're the scorer, You're you're the guy that can
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Speaker 5 (39:27):
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(39:59):
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Speaker 5 (40:01):
Thank you so much TJ. This Ghost Saint Mary's.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Love all of it. Great stuff there with Roy and
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(40:52):
who's been with me for like twenty years, Sirius x
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we have a bracket happy bracket review Monday.

Speaker 6 (41:05):
How are things pretty good? Just getting out of traffic
and parked and jump on with you.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
I love it the NYC and combat driving. I had
my own travel fund last night. And am I to
understand you were chauffeur uber for your sister trying to
get her to and from the JFK airport, which might
be a little less exciting than like Star Wars when
the Millennium Falcons going through the asteroid field. You're trying
to get the JFK and then get back.

Speaker 6 (41:34):
It's pretty much with all the construction getting in there.

Speaker 5 (41:36):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 6 (41:37):
It is like that getting through the asteroid field. Feels
like that.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
All right, we have a bracket. Did they get it right?
Ari Russell on the fourth number one being Florida after
the SEC tournament win.

Speaker 6 (41:51):
Yep on that one. Yeah, they got it right.

Speaker 7 (41:53):
Look, I'm not someone that is really able to dis
sect the brackets as well as someone like a Christabertine
obviously spends his time doing that, you know, but I've
been hearing that there's obviously you know, the biggest hub
hubub is North Carolina, I mean, and kind of I mean,
it just screams corruption. That's kind of the world we
live in now, not just in college basketball, but anyway.

(42:16):
You know that that's little shady dealing there. But at
the end of the day, I mean that bubble was
so weak. I mean, you can mix and match these teams,
someone else is going to complain. That's what it always
happens on that Monday, Monday and Tuesday. As soon as
the game really since Thursday starts as soon as that twelve,
that first tip off is we forget about talking about
all this stuff. Even the seating, it doesn't matter. You know,

(42:39):
you got to put your big boy pants on and
play whoever's in front of you. So regardless of the seating.
You know, it doesn't matter in my opinion for others. Yeah,
you know, I could see that there's some people that
are complaining about the seating.

Speaker 6 (42:52):
We'll see, you know.

Speaker 7 (42:54):
To me, it's it's just good fodder for you know,
people like ourselves and some people that are more invested
in the the specific bracket makeups and what have you,
like Memphis having to be shift all the way to
Siberia basically, which doesn't make sense, you know, so so
so uh it's you know, it's weird, but it you know,
it gives us certain things to talk about. Me personally,

(43:15):
I don't really spend that much time paying attention. I
don't really get diving into the the last minute bracket.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Kind of fill out guy, right.

Speaker 7 (43:23):
I like to sit in marinate a little bit because
I get it wrong anyway, so uh so.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Well, most everybody, most everybody gets it wrong. And this
is the reason why we've always joked at the secretaries
of the office that know nothing but the colors and
the mascots. They seem to do better. We almost overanalyze it,
don't we. It almost seems like that we do.

Speaker 6 (43:41):
So yeah, I think that that's part of it.

Speaker 7 (43:44):
You know, this one, this one's interesting because there's a
lot of teams that possibly could get to the final four. Again,
there's always upsets. You never know when it's going to
be an upset. Injury it's going to play a factor
in it. Obviously, you know there's some key injuries going
into this tournament with a lot of teams. A lot
of the top ranked teams have you know, obviously Duke
and Flag and obviously Alabama and Nelson uh Iowa stayed

(44:06):
dealing with a lot of major issues in their lineup.
That that that has an effect on the overall bracket,
on how.

Speaker 6 (44:13):
Teams are able to perform and move move along in
the tournament. So, you know, we don't know, and some of.

Speaker 7 (44:19):
These teams that we don't get to see a lot
you don't get You don't know, you don't have that
much you know, for us to work with because we
focus mostly on the majors. So that's the intriguing part.
Some of these teams that you don't really see or
have that much knowledge of, you get to see finally
on the big stage.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
I love Ari Russell's inside He's at Ari Russell on
social media. He was right there at the Big East Tournament.
I'm gonna I'm gonna go rapid fire with about four
or five things here. We've got a call Big East. First,
you were right there, same question I put to Adam Zagoria,
your colleague. You were right there in the garden together.
They were trailing in both the semi final and the
championship game. Yes, I used the word composure earlier in

(44:59):
the sho they showed composure. Maybe you want to use
another word to come from behind and win those games.
Now one can argue they're playing a de facto home game,
feeding off the crowd the whole bit in the garden,
I use the word composed. They were composed to come
back and win those games. Hope, what you said, you
were there.

Speaker 6 (45:16):
What's composed? It's mental toughness.

Speaker 7 (45:19):
It's just the kind of the trust that the teams
have with each other and their ability to adjust to
varying game plans and kind of seeing what is given
and what is allowed, and then they make the adjustments
accordingly on both sides of the court. You don't see
that too often. They're able to make these adjustments on
both the offensive end to figure out where the seams

(45:40):
and where they can attack, and then on the defensive
end on where they need to actually defend who they
need to defend, where so they kind of let the game.
That's why they get they kind of I feel like
they get behind a little bit because they're because they're
trying to figure out what the other team is thrown
at them, and then they make the adjustment and then
they execute.

Speaker 6 (45:58):
So the composure is part of it. The mental toughness
and then the preparation and the ability to make the
adjustments are all part of that kind of collective.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
There Again, I love Ari Russell's inside because he was there.
I push people to go to the College Basketball Coast
to Coast YouTube channel. You did a tremendous job in
the locker room after the game of getting player interviews.
Davon Smith was one of those players. He's been injured.
He was a big key though to them winning the
semi final in the championship game, tease it for them
to go find the interview on the CBB Coast to

(46:29):
Coast on the College Basketball Coast to Coast YouTube page
that you did with Davon Smith real quick.

Speaker 7 (46:34):
Yeah, I just spoke to Smith briefly after they won
the Biggiest Championship.

Speaker 5 (46:38):
It is.

Speaker 7 (46:38):
It'll be in on the YouTube page. You know, maybe
you're watching it live now. You just go to the shorts.
It's one of the shorts. You'll see him there. Avon Smith,
you know, is there. It's tagged, so I spoke to him.
I also spoke to a Zubie Edge of four. That
was tough because it was really loud in the locker room,
but I got kind of the scene behind behind what

(47:00):
was making that noise. And then I also spoke to
Aaron Scott who's there ye six eight guard forward and
another key member of this team.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
God is kind of like the glue, isn't he. You've
got that impression and in talking to.

Speaker 6 (47:11):
Him, the whole team is like the glue.

Speaker 7 (47:14):
But he's one of those guys that that does kind
of all the little things that a lot of these
guys are the little things, but but he does a
lot of the little things. Will hit some big shots.
He can shoot the three, he's not afraid to. Again,
he's six s eight, but he's he's a swing six eight,
true kind of swing three guy, but also can can
guard fours because he's got some long arms. But yeah,

(47:35):
he does all the little things, always getting the loose balls,
et cetera. So yeah, he's he's a guy that she
should keep an eye on as well as.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Let's move to the bracket. I talked to mad about this.
I want your opinion. So we got the Power Coaches
pod that I'm talking about in Providence. So Saint John's
is the two. They're ninety nine percent gonna beat Omaha
and be in the next round, and then it's Kansas
or Arkansas with Bill self and Kansas Don Calaperiot Arkansas.
Your thought on that real.

Speaker 7 (48:03):
Quick, A lot of a lot of experience there, Uh
that Arkansas Kansas is a very intriguing matchup, especially with
Arkansas getting you know, sensational five star freshman bookie Flann
black Back. Uh, that that's a that's a huge addition
for Arkansas because I kind of forgot that they were
winning some games down the stretch without him, but now

(48:25):
that he's coming back, that's a huge addition to to that.
To to Arkansas going in and Kansas obviously, you know,
had that one win at the end of the year
against was it Arizona, but but was kind of flailing
a little bit. They obviously didn't go as far as
they had wanted to in the Big twelve tournament. You know,

(48:45):
it's both of those teams kind of were going in
different directions. I think at the end of the year.
To me, it looks like Arkansas probably is an advantage here.

Speaker 6 (48:54):
You never know.

Speaker 7 (48:55):
Uh, Kansas again the number one overall team in preseason. Uh,
but they sure as heckcorn playing like it for most
of this year.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
And again I hearkened back, I was there in twenty twelve.
I'm trying. I don't think you were with me, but
I was there in twenty twelve for the Final four
in New Orleans. And that's Caliperi and Kentucky beating Patino
and Louisville in the semifinal and then beating Bill self
and Kansas in the championship game. That is now thirteen

(49:23):
years ago. But here we are that either Bill self
and Kansas and John Calipari with his new team Arkansas
are going to be in the second round game with
Saint John's and Rick Patino. That'll be fascinating with those
matchups this weekend, that's for.

Speaker 6 (49:35):
Sure, for sure, for sure.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Yeah, real quick, real quick, let's cover a couple more things.
Your take North Carolina and Texas make it, but Indiana,
West Virginia, Boise State out. How is West Virginia out
with six power wins over the quad one some great
out of conference wins and North Carolina with one quad
one win is in? We know it's political, we know

(49:58):
it's a voute. What are your thoughts on all of that?

Speaker 7 (50:00):
Yeah, I mean I think that West Virginia probably, I
think a lot of people were giving the eye test,
and let's be honest, like they didn't play that well
in the last quarter of the season West Virginia, So
I think that's what they were looking about at them
going in. Indiana was actually playing a lot better in

(50:20):
the back end of the season, but they had a
rough stretch kind of a little bit beforehand in the
third quarter of the season, right, So I think that
kind of hurt them a lot. Plus they fired their coach,
et cetera. That man also played into a Boise wasn't
going to get the benefit of the down no matter what,
because they're in a they're in a lesson.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Clearly, Clearly you're going to take Indiana and Texas over boys,
right right, It just is the case.

Speaker 6 (50:43):
Keep going Texas, Texas I think, you know, played themselves
in the last week.

Speaker 7 (50:48):
I think, yeah, to get in. I think they played
themselves in and North Carolina. I mean, this is what stinks,
you know, this is what's rotten in Denmark.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
You know.

Speaker 7 (50:58):
Uh, it's just I mean, you can't have the committee
head and you can't like and this is like the
controversy here.

Speaker 6 (51:07):
It's like, well, he stepped out.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Of the room.

Speaker 7 (51:10):
I mean, come on, man, I mean seriously, the head
guy he stepped out of I mean, what is this.

Speaker 6 (51:14):
You know, It's like Vito wasn't there, but it came
out anyway. Rights.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
But the thing is he comes back in the room
and he's looking at them, and they're looking at him,
and he's looking at the board and they're not on
it North Carolina and he's looking at them and they're
looking at him. It's human nature, that's what you're saying, right.

Speaker 7 (51:35):
I mean, look again, they they did again as far
as like how they played at the end of the year,
minus losing to Duke off of Crazy Wain violation. Basically
even though they didn't have Cooper flag. I feel like
they people think that they passed the eye test.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Again.

Speaker 7 (51:52):
It is North Carolina it's a blue blood brand. It's
going to get the benefit of the doubt. Doesn't hurt
that you got an inside guy that's in the committee
that was out of the room at the point. You know, again,
it's not gonna matter if they lose in the in
the first four against what they played Xavier.

Speaker 6 (52:10):
San Diego State, Texas. Right, you play San Diego State.

Speaker 7 (52:15):
They lose in that first round, everyone's gonna be like, ah,
say it should have been West Virginia or whatever.

Speaker 6 (52:20):
It doesn't matter, you know. Is it a team that's
gonna make the final four? Maybe? Most likely not?

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Right, there have been teams emerged from the first four.
Virginia collonwell did it. C LA did it in the
compressed tournament four years ago in Indianapolis when it was
all there with no travel. Much easier to do in
that circumstance. But North Carolina stop stop talking to anybody
in these processes about wins. They beat no one after
January first, the ACC wins, not against Duke or Clemson

(52:50):
or Louisville, didn't matter. It didn't matter. Hey, I think
we pretty well covered everything else. Is there anything else
that I left out out? On the Bracket review show?
Here from you anything else you want to touch with
the only thing I didn't cover. We always love the upsets.
Give me one or two. We know what twelve's beating
a five? Are you going to say Colorado State against

(53:12):
my Memphis Tigers?

Speaker 5 (53:14):
No?

Speaker 6 (53:14):
Let Tyler do that last night coming out and.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
The Maazema did it to What about Will Wade and McNeice, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (53:21):
Yeah, yeah, that was that was the one I was
looking at.

Speaker 7 (53:24):
The Will McNeice and Clemson is a is A is
A going to be a cute one to pick u.
I think Grand Canyon in Maryland is another one that
people are going to start looking at, you know. But
outside of that, I'm not really I think I think.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Drake against Missouri and eleven against the.

Speaker 7 (53:42):
Yeah, okay, so now we're getting to a point where
you know, the eight, nine, seven and ten's and eleven
six they to me, they're all they're too equal. So
I don't really look at that as a as a
massive upset. If Drake pulls off, you know, and.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Now one damaged Kentucky's a three and troll out of
the Sun Belt, can score be careful of that fourteen
versus three? And it's happened to Kentucky before with Saint
Peter's and last year with Oakland. I know it was
calipari as the coach.

Speaker 7 (54:10):
But yeah, well then that one and then the other
one that I think a lot of people are going
to start looking at is Yale over Texas A and M.
I think a lot of people are going to be
looking at Yale as a team that can possibly do
what sometime it happens, you know they I think they
made it to a Sweet sixteen before, and you know
it's always the Ivy League teams are.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
Always Yale beat Auburn. Yale beat Auburn a year ago.
Harvard's been in the Sweet sixteen out of the Ivy
League just because.

Speaker 6 (54:35):
Princeton made it to an Elite eight. If I'm not mistaken,
so careful, So.

Speaker 7 (54:39):
I be careful in that one. So that that's the
one I'm looking at. Yale in Texas A and M.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Yeah, Princeton. Princeton made it at least in sweet sixteen.
They beat Arizona. Two years ago they beat Arizona, and
I want to say they were thirteen something like that.

Speaker 6 (54:52):
Fifteen.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
There may have even been a fifteen fifteen craziness with
all this final thought we got to go here in
a minute. On the bracket review, Are you ready? First
four coming Tuesday Night, Wednesday Night, thirty two games, Thursday
and Friday. Final fault On the bracket review, Arie Russell.

Speaker 6 (55:06):
Yeah, man excited to get it going.

Speaker 7 (55:09):
You know, I feel bad for Florida because they put
Saint John's in there, and I think that's a and
I tweeted about this earlier, because they've been playing the
best basketball, but they put Saint John's on their side,
and Saint John's's a matchup nightmare for Florida considering their
perimeter game and that's what they've been dominating everyone off of.
And Saint John's just happens to be probably historically good

(55:29):
at guarding the perimeter. So it's one of those great
kind of matchups to see. And I'm gonna my that's
why I have Saint John's in my final four. It's
mainly because it's Patino, you know, and it's gonna be
hard at that point, at that level to coach against
the guy that has that much of a pedigree.

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(56:51):
we thank all of you for watching. Thanks to Ari Russell.
Thanks also to Chris daubertem Blinding in the Bracket dot
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