August 27, 2025 • 40 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, we're back another edition Colt's Corner with myself,
Kevin Bowen and Eddie Garrison. Roster is trimmed down to
fifty three. We'll see how much tinkering already a little tinkering.
We'll see how much more tinkering the rest of the week,
and of course we'll have you set coming up next week.
We'll throw out a little preview pod Colts and Dolphins
Week one, some fantasy football info Eddie. At the end
(00:23):
of this pod, maybe a trivia question related to week one.
How are you doing, sir? Doing well? Yes, we will.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
We will offer up a trivia question and we'll explain
what the question is and how you can claim a
spot in the fantasy football draft. I believe we're gonna
draft what a week from today?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I think so Wednesday night. Yeah, we're gonna shoot for
nine Easter and I hope that's not too late for
anybody out there. I mean, how the sun is still
kind of up at that hour, so if you're on
the East in time zone, you should be good. And
you know, we have listeners that sometimes aren't in our
time zone, which we greatly appreciate, so hopefully it'll help
you out from that end of it, a Eddie will
break down a little bit of roster, you know, cutdowns.
(01:04):
I don't know if we need to go position by position,
but I think also the Chris Ballad presser will certainly
be what people want to hear about, but that'll be
the general focus. Don't know fall time for all the
Twitter questions today. We might save a couple for next week.
But that's will lay of the land here on this
Wednesday afternoon pod, about an hour after Chris Ballard just
wrapped up his press conference.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Let's start with the most recent thing, Kevin. Let's start
with that Chris Ballard press conference. I don't think you
guys asked enough Anthony richardson questions, and I think you
should have definitely asked him about the white outs, because
I know he probably would have enjoyed that he.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Did bring up the white outs, just in an organic
state saying hey, I did ask him that, you know,
is there a position of strength and he did mention
white outs there. You know, Eddie, I'm not gonna lie.
I generally really look forward to the Ballad press conferences.
You know, anytime the GM talks, I think it's it's
(01:59):
important and I think compared to most gms around the league,
I say, Chris is usually relatively candid, but today there
was an element of walking in there thinking, are we
just going through the motions? Like I didn't expect anything
or shattering to your point. I had a general idea
that quarterback would be the focus, and I knew at
some point his continued backing of Anthony Richardson with words
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would lead to frustration from him. It was about thirteen
maybe fourteen minutes into the press conference before you mentioned
you know, we have fifty one other guys in the team,
and you know, he was kind of fed up at
that point. So he had a quote at one point
where he goes, you know, he keeps on asking about
you know, watch people believe in you. Watch people believe
blah blah, they believe if you win. He probably could
(02:51):
have just said that right away, and like, that's the
general thing, And I get why people ask the question,
you know, why should fans believe in you? But also
I think it's met with a very difficult answer. Sure
what you know, maybe could there have been an acknowledgement
of hey, you know, we messed up in our plan
with Anthony From day one, and we should not have
put the pressure on him early. I you know, we
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should have found a proven starter to really learn behind
through his first year, should have brought him along slowly.
I don't know, maybe something like that becomes, you know, beneficial.
But like the thing of Anthony is like he's such
a rare prospect because even if that's your belief, you
still have a dude that's just barely played football. So
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at some point, like he's got to learn on the
field too, And what does he be learning in the
sixth or not? Sixteen? Was it nineteen games? He's missed right,
seventeen due to injury and too due to benching. So yeah,
I you know, one of our colleagues said, Bore the
prest conference start is usually the press to where Bower
gets the most pissy. I'm like, well, yes, but like
(03:57):
when you have the resume that he has in year nine,
what what really can you say? And you know, honestly,
when he pivoted from the fifty one you know, fifty
one players, you know, why don't you ask about that?
Something to that effect. It is interesting that you know,
back at the combine, Eddy, when we played that interview
back in February, and honestly, this might have been the
(04:19):
combine last year. I don't think it was this year.
It might have been the combine in twenty three or
I guess twenty four. You know, why do you feel
like your ten year has not produced the results that
you would want? He largely points to quarterback, which here
we are, you know, eighteen months later, and we're kind
of back at the same song and dance. So again,
that was just my general overview. I didn't think, you know,
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are we going through the motions at this point, like
unless the results turn around, and who knows, maybe those
results won't be enough, maybe ten wins won't be enough,
but until the tangible results on the field turn around,
Like I was watching my Miami press conference right before
Ballads with Chris Greer. Their GM. Their GM as a
very similar resume to Ballard, and they're really the only
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two in the NFL. I think you kind of put
in that category of you know, nine ten years at
it and don't have lots to show for it. And
it's the same song and dance down there too, So
I guess that's kind of an interesting subplot to week one.
So that was just my general thought. You know, as
far as Daniel Jones is concerned, you know again, professionalism
and getting the team in the right position offensively, and
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all of that was where he kept on coming back
from and what he has been impressed by with him.
He didn't really point to twenty twenty two as much
as Shane Steiken did. More pointed to what he has
seen in training camp. Boy, what a great day for
Alex Smith. If you took a shot every time Alex
Smith's name was mentioned, you might wake up on you know,
Saturday morning. And he honestly used the Alex Smith comp
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for both Jones in the short term and Richardson in
the long term. So you know, I could Daniel Jones
to have an Alex Smith type of season. I don't know. Possibly,
I you know, if you look at Smith's career, I
think there's a little bit more on the resume that
has some meat on it than Jones. But I get it.
(06:13):
You know, Smith struggle with accuracy early on, and then
you know, have the shoulder issue and eventually got it
together in San Francisco, and then you know, of course
did it in Kansas City. He might have been a
little bit older even at that point. But I'd have
to go back and really analyze his career and again,
short term, yeah, I guess you could nod your head
at that. Could again Daniel Jones have a year like
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Alex Smith had? Yeah, But I would say long term,
what did Kansas City do? They made one of the
more aggressive trade ups that you'll see twenty seven to ten.
I mean, that's a giant trade up to draft Mahomes
when you were a playoff team and they forget if
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they won a game or not. But yeah, that to
me is probably where that can Harrison stops Richardson and
Joe and Smith. That one's hard for me. I mean, Eddie,
you probably weren't even alive when Alex Smith played college football,
but like that, dude had one of the more impressive
single seasons we've probably seen, especially in that day. And
that was twenty years ago where we weren't yet with
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the video game numbers, with a lot of these quarterbacks
that they now put up in that today in college football.
But I mean his I'm just thinking back to that
Youthah season. The efficiency was just through the roof. Hell,
he was a Heisman finalist. I remember him just torching
Pittsburgh in the Fiesta Bowl obviously turned to the number
one pick. Like Richardson, I mean, he didn't sniff that
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in college. And this gets back to like the Baker
Mayfield Sam Darnold comp It's like Anthony Richardson, and I
say this in quotes, he's never strung together good football,
like legit good college or pro Like is there a
four game here? Sure? But like is where is the
full season? Again?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Alex Smith was the Heisman, was a Heisman finalist. There's
not even been like back to back games. Yeah, I
mean you could, yeah, yeah, I mean if you want to.
I don't know, I probably have to go over the
Florida resume again. Ironically, I had a great game. It's
Utah to start. I remember we talked about that game,
and you know, Kevin he was, Oh, this guy's bursting
on the scene because he's had all these big plays
and then uh he has to go back it up
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the following week and he and he.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Didn't, right right right right? Yeah, And he was the
Heisman Darling for for a week or so. So yeah,
I just and you know, one point, Ballard was like, well,
you know, there's only something the effective Like you know,
Smith was a guy that you know struggled early and
turned out to be something, and there's one of them
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out there, and it's like, okay, I mean, this is
just this kind of gets back to the parlay that
you're at with with Richardson and trying to hit so
many things of injury and accuracy improvement and turnover improvement
Monday through Saturday. And I guess that's one thing. It
seemed like Ballad really wasn't going to touch anything off
the field. See Michael Richardson, he feels like he is
in a really good place there, you know, Monday through
(09:04):
Saturday and all of that. So I guess that is
good news. But again, so much of it to me
comes back to whenever he does get back out on
the field. Just look at Chris Boward's biggest question mark
with him at the end of last season. Availability. He's
got to prove that again. And are you just back
at the same song and dance with you know, only
fifteen games on his resume, So that's probably everything quarterback wise,
(09:27):
unless something stood out to you. I know, you guys
are doing the show, but unless something stood out to you,
I'm good to move on.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Excuse me, that's why you don't eat peanuts right before
you start doing a podcast. Kevin noted nothing really stood
out in terms of what he said.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Oh yeah, they're not going to trade Richardson, you know,
I guess yeah, but and I agree with that. I
don't see the benefit of that right now. I what
are you getting? I don't know? Fourth rounder? Like I
would rather just say, you know what, let's see if
Daniel Jones can last seventeen James and if he doesn't,
then you play Richardson and you get more clarity on
(10:05):
that answer. He still is utter contract for next year,
so you still would have some team control on him
for next year. Again, you got to trade him by Halloween,
so you really got to see a team get super desperate,
super quick for them to be entertained by Richardson. And
I believe Ballad I would be surprised if they traded
him before Halloween. So obviously the trade deadline then is there,
(10:26):
and you know, you get to the off season and
see what happens. I don't think his trade value will
entirely change too much on August twenty seventh or February
twenty seventh, So I.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Thought there was a lot of the smug and the
self confidence in the pravado that was on display.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, you know, I saw people. Boy, he seems so defensive.
I'm like, I mean, isn't that kind of how he's
been lately in press conferences? I mean, isn't that kind
of largely how he is in press conferences? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
And I understand too, like the comment he made. But
I think it was James who asked him like, hey,
there are any pressure and he goes like, nah, I
don't feel any pressure. Like at some point you would
feel like there would be some sort of like crack
of like yeah, I've you know, I've really got to
win now, like this is my time. When if not,
then you know that's in the future card. You know,
remember the card he played a month ago. The card
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at the end of training camp asked a similar question,
or I should say, at the start of training camp,
was you know, no pressure is people going paycheck to paycheck?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
You know he went that route, so he just chose
a different route to go. I I yeah, I guess
when you've been a part of so many ballot press conferences,
maybe you're kind of numb to it.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I understand where you're coming from. There, but I'm just
I know there's fans out there to be like certain dude.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Certainly, I think there's only so many words he could
have said, and I don't know, maybe he should have
been less offensive, maybe he should have acknowledged a little
bit more of like. But I just kind of shrug
my shoulders and hands up in the air and say,
either he tangibly has results on the field that makes
people change their minds, or you know, it's that might
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be today might have been the final time we see
Chris Bout on a press conference setting. I mean, if
it doesn't go well this season, you know, that's it. Really.
It's not like he talks. Unless I'm missing something, it's
not like he talks. He talks again. So yeah, I
that's kind of where I'm at with with.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Quarterback wise, Let's talk about the other fifty one players
on the roster of oll not each one of them Kevin,
but the Colts fifty three man roster. The initial roster,
nonetheless is officially out and it's already outdated. They made
one change today starting with the quarterbacks. Kevin, they had four,
they cut it down to three, Jason being gone meeting,
it's Daniel Jones, Anthony Richardson, Riley Leonard, no shock there.
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Moving to running backs, they had seven and they cut
down to three. One of those running backs that they
did keep is currently injured. We don't really know the
status of that's being Tyler Goodson. The other two backs
with Goodson in that room obviously Jonathan Taylor and DJ Giddens.
Anything to add.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Here on this front, they do let go of Khalil Herbert. Yeah,
and you let's subpently the fourth be curious if he
goes the practice squad and then could he get the
Week one call up or could Herbert, you know, linger
around practice squad get the call up? You know? And
I'm saying that if Goodson, Tyler Goodson at that elbow injury,
if he's not ready, I still would explore a pass
catching running back. That to me, I think is a
question mark. Every time watch Jonathan Taylor, I just get nervy, man,
(13:16):
right in the football Did you go nervy? I went nervy? Yeah?
Is that right? Is that not right? A little nervy?
Are you trying to be like the hip with the
kids or something? I feel like all the kids say
is bet these days. Oh that's outdated? Do you know
what Aura Farming is or slaps? Its?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Slaps? Slaps is outdated? Okay, but Bett is also outdated. Yeah,
I feel like I hear the athletes say it too.
I feel like I hear the NFL and the NBA
players say it. Well, maybe they may say it, but
I'm telling you it's a little outdated. I mean, I
got a brother and sister in college, Kevin, I'm very
up to date, like Aora Farming.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Do you know what that is? Tell that to you know,
James Johnson or Grover two or something like that. So
running back surprised me a little bit, but I guess
there's just some uncertainty there back end wise, you know,
white out and tight end. I thought it was super straight.
For do you see Jolani Woods to the Jets?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I did see Jolani Woods the to the Jets, Crystal
Mons to the Titans?
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Uh uh no? W Mac Mac? Sorry y yeah, Ron Corny,
Samuel Womack for the Titans, and yeah, who's the oh
Juju Brents to the to the Dolphins. So I guess
I'll start with Woods. I just never thought he was
a real, real strong candidate to push Will Mallory off
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the roster. That's me seemed pretty obvious, you know, the
on the Juju Brents front. I guess we're jumping around
a little bit here. But while we talk about the waivers,
you know, Baller kind of summarized it as bad luck.
I you know, I I do feel bad for Juju
in the sense of, like I thought when he played,
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albeit a very small sample size, what eleven games. I
did think you saw a little bit there, yep, about
eleven of thirty four games. I mean, he was less
available than Richardson and then he was hurt this all season.
I thought that was just kind of That's what made
me pause a little bit of like they kept Jonathan
Edwards over Juju. You know, part of me thought, hey,
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can you sneak Edwards to practice squad, the undrafted kid
out of Tulane. Keep Juju? See what he does for
a month or two as he gets back to health.
You know, it's only year three of that rookie contract.
But they obviously decided to do something different with him. Ironically,
it goes to Miami, which you're gonna see here in
Week one. I don't think I've ever seen a position
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in the ballad era be addressed more than cornerback has
been addressed this offseason, right, And I get some of
these guys are aging, and I get some of these
guys are no longer maybe that type of player, But
think about it all pro Saveria's Ward added all pron
Xavier and Howard added a third round pick spent on
Justin Wally. A former third round pick added in Makai Blackman.
You traded a sixth rounder for him, and we'll see
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how the rest of the week plays out with them.
Like that's a ton And they brought back all their
big snap guys from last year anymore, crys La Mons,
Samuel Wallmack Jude Jalen Jones. So you know right there,
I I I feel like you've got to look at
Ballard and say, thank you. Here is a position of
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struggle last season, and you gave it heavy attention in
the off season.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Now, did lou Anne Room will have a you know,
influence on that quite possibly? Obviously there are some ties
directly to lou within that within that room, but still
that is taking a Hey, we were weak in this
area last year. Let's try and strengthen it. And so
I do think Ballard deserves some credit there, and we'll
see how it plays out. You know, will there be
growing pains early on in the year, You know, possibly,
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Obviously it's an aging group. When you look at it,
you know, very old. Honestly, when you look at some
of those names, you know, where's Blackman after a year
off in the acl Where's Howard after a year off?
You know, those are some questions that you have. But
Man cornerback, they just totally totally re retooled.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Seemed pretty confident in his Zami and Howard though today
mentioned that he feels like the year off really helped
him from a physical standpoint.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Right and again, I yeah, I you know, they watched
him in three practices, so you know what happens when
Tyreek Hill and Jayleen Latta all running at you for
forty fifty snaps a week from Sunday.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
All right, now, let's get into Chris Pallace's favorite positions
to look at in the depth. Start starting with the
offensive line had fourteen, they cut off five, so they
have nine on the active roster.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
At this moment.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Channer Borderlini Macnzalvez, Quentin Neilson, Danny Pinter, Bernard Ryman, Brayden Smith,
Luke Tanuda, Jalen Travis, Dalton Tucker. Meaning these were the
five that did not make the cut. Marshall Forner, Wesley French,
Marcellus Johnson, Josh Sills, and I don't even know how
to say this last one, Mose Vaval.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Mos Vaval. Yeah, I'm gonna go with Moses. I think
you are right, but I'm not going to try to
act like I'm right, and I'll just say nothing and
say it was cut. So I yeah, this is the
nine that I had. I thought maybe offensive tackle, they
might try to play the wayver game game. But they
like Luke Tanuda bit here. He benefits from the Blake
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Freeland thing, you know, d line. I was a number short.
I stretched it to ten. I saw they just cut
Tim Smith, the draft pick out Alabama to make room
for Chad Moomba, So they kept Thereic Johnson bringing back
the old fifth round pick, kept him over Tim Smith.
So now they're back to ten defensive linemen. You know,
if you're going to keep such a big number, I
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usually like one of those ten to be the flashy
defensive end prospect. Isaiah Lamb Right, you know that type
of guy, and I get it, you've seen him for
two years. Maybe he's done. They didn't go that route,
so they obviously are keeping a ton of beef up front.
If you go to linebacker Eddie, I think one of
the best things about roster cuts. If you look at it,
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twenty one of twenty two starters that you would have
had their July twenty seventh, you will have an all
likelihood for week one, assuming Josh Down's is good, assuming
that cross is good. You know those sorts of things.
Not a lot of teams can say that. You know,
last year, I Samson Ebcom obviously towards Achilles, but you know,
outside of Justin Wally, I mean, you are pretty darn healthy.
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I mean Jalen Carlies. I bring that up because linebacker, Yes,
he's gonna miss at least a month. He's your only
ir to return candidate exiting camp, and he was already
losing that starting job in my mind before he got hurt.
I think Joe Botchi had kind of taken that from him.
So I'll be curious what they do next to Franklin
saw a report of Anthony Walker speaking of guys coming
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back to the Colts visiting and working out for the
team on Thursday. You know, Lou mentioned I like to
rotate there, so we'll see how they handle that. That's
still a position that I've got some I've got some
concern on, not to say the least.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Beller did say during the press conference today, because he
was asked directly about Mike Kilton. He did say that
they'll start bringing in some veteran type players to you know,
kick the tires on to that in a pinch that
you know, say somebody goes down, they can bring him
in and have some familiarity with them already, get a
look at him and know how what shape they're in
and what they're looking looking like, just for purposes of
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making sure the audience knows who Wall's in that defensive
line position group. Addie Tommy will out of Orri to
forst Buckner, Samson, abacom Nevill Gallimore, Eric Johnson. The second
leots to a lot to Taekwon, Lewis Quitt pay, Tim
Smith who was released today, Griver Stewart and JT. Twey Mololau.
And linebackers they had nine they go with four Joe Bacchi,
Zion Franklin, Cam mcgron and chagoon A Louviing now to
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the cornerback room. They had six initially Kevin McKay, Blackman,
Jonathan Edwards, Zavy and Howard Jalen Jones, Kenny Moore the second,
Travarius Ward Safeties. They go with four can Binde him,
Nick Cross, Daniel Scott and Rodney Thomas the second the specialists.
No shocker there, Luke Rowse, you're a long snapper. Ricoberto
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Sanchez your punter, and Spencer Strader is your kicker.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Congrats. Spencer Trader officially wins that Mattix Triuvia must have
got hurt. It's always waved injured. One last thing I'll add,
because I know it was a big topic from yesterday
Eddie was you know, seeing Juju get cut, and you
know where Anthony Richson's career arcs going, you know, Blake
Freeland unfortunately season Indie injury. The first two years you
didn't get a whole lot out of them. Obviously, the
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start of that twenty twenty three draft has some pretty
woof Yeah. That's yeah, that's a that's a much more
succinct and effective way to put it than I was going.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
To go because that's Richardson downs Freeland right down at Jones, Right, Brents.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Is the second round Brents that you have there? Yeah?
Twenty three? Yeah, yeah, he got some day three years that.
You know. Jalen Jones obviously has been really nice, fine,
but largely I think what is frustrating about that miss
draft is it came at such a critical juncture for
the franchise needing to restart things. You know, when you
when you think about the restart moments that the Colts
have had, think about twenty eleven to twelve eleven, you suffer,
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you win two games, here comes a twelve draft. You're
drafting first in every round, right or first or second.
You know, I forget if Washington and then flip flop,
but think about that draft. Luck Fleeiner, Dwayne Allen, t
Y Hilton, Vic Ballard, I mean just massively core players
to eleven wins that first year, then eleven the next,
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then eleven the following year. Like you know, that helped
you get back on track asap. Think about the next
three start time twenty seventeen. Four wins to twenty eighteen
went Nelson, Braydon Smith, Darius Leonard. You know you found
some early success Nahim Heinz in that draft class that
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helped you do what make the playoffs in twenty eighteen,
win a playoff game in twenty eighteen, get back to
the playoffs in twenty twenty. Now that group maybe didn't
have as much stain power, but it was really important. Well,
let's look at twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three.
What happens in twenty twenty two. You go four twelve
and one, you have one of the most embarrassing seasons
in franchise history. The whole Matt Ryan, the whole Jeff
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Saturday saga, all that plays out. And now look at
the twenty twenty three draft. You described it as wolf
like that can't happen, And I think, if I'm carl
Ersa Gordon, I think back to Okay. So, my dad
and Chris Ballard back in whatever twenty twenty three decided
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to have a reset, and they said it was going
to take a couple of years. So in order for
that reset to have some solid foundation, some nice limestone
if you will, from Indiana on it, then you need
to hit on those picks. Because you're drafting high. You're
not drafting middle of the rounds into the rounds like
you are maybe in some other years. No, no, no, you're
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drafting really high in all those rounds. That has to
be taking advantage of. And when you four go free agency,
for as much as Ballard has, your draft hit rate
can't be fifty to fifty. Twenty twenty two had some
really nice hits, twenty twenty one a little bit of
a dip. Twenty twenty had some hits, But having fifty
to fifty only gets you so far when you operate
in the free agency manner that you do.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
So that is something as well. You ready for Twitter questions, kab, Yes,
let's do it. We got a handful to get to.
And for those of you that listened to Quarying Company
on the fan from twelve to three Easter Monday through Friday.
By the way, you're very familiar with the person that
is my only friend, and he leads us off today
in Twitter questions. His name is Alec only friend.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Alec.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Here we go, Yeah, that is literally how he gets
referenced on the show. Is Eddie's only friend?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Alec.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Alex says he did some research on Chris Ballard in
Day two picks that I've struggled to stay healthy and
how much they missed in college in terms of games.
Former colts, we all know Shack Leonard the story there.
Paris Campbell, he missed three games in college. Jolanny Woods
did not miss any games. Juju Brents played in seven games.
It's a true freshman. Played in one game as a
sophomore before going down. Missed a game in at twenty
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twenty and did not miss a game his last two years.
Julian Blackman missed two games at Utah. Current Colts Jonathan
Taylor missed one game. A Branden Smith did not miss
any games. Justin Wally missed two games. Is this just
bad luck? Or is this an indictment on the strength
and conditioning staff as well as the medical staff for
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the Indianapolis Colts well alec.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Unfortunately, he's asking questions that Kevin Bowen struggles to answer
injury questions. I just I just battle with and like,
trust me, I have a to your point, Justin Wallly,
unbelievable health in college and then boom, all of a sudden,
you know, terroris acl I think there are some examples
of it, some that don't apply to it. Necessarily, and
(25:44):
that's why I think makes it so frustrating. I do
largely agree on this. I think at times it's just
too overly reliant on the raz yep relative athletics score
just too much on the athlete, athlete, athlete, and there's
just a level of what about football player, what about
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football body that is able to handle some of the
you know, not necessarily these track athletes, if you will.
That I think is where I would probably side on.
It's a totally fair question. It's a good question, but
I think it's difficult to answer.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Next up is JJ Shane Steichen came to Indianapolis with
the reputation of being a quote brilliant offensive nine end quote.
Is he still described similarly? Also after a few seasons
in Indy? Is he really head coach material? It seems
like he'd prefer designing offensive plays to leading a team.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, I am, you know, I do think quarterback is
probably I guess the quote right there? What was it
he preferred designing offensive plays versus leading a team? Yeah, yeah,
I I I'm doing the Alonzo morning gift right now.
I mean that's I can see that, or like the
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security yard in one last dance. That one has a
little bit more emotion than than Big Z. Ryan Bones's
favorite player growing up by the real of morning. Oh yeah,
I loved himself some. So I used to rock a
hornet's jersey that Ryan passed down to me, very very
gracious for that. I had no chance I could fit
in that. Actually, I can feel like the threads of
the jersey just splitting right now imagining myself trying to
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fit in that. Yeah, you know it is he really
head coach material. I mean last year, think about it, Eddie,
he felt the need to Hey, I am not enforcing
the standard enough. I'm not clearly it's not resonating enough
that general aspect. I mean, he is an offensive minded
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head coach. And I think there's a fine balance you
have with these coaches. It's especially when you're in a
situation where the Koltar where they struggled with quarterbacks so much.
You wanted more of the offensive, you wanted more of
the quarterback guru. But where do you blend in leader
of men? And finding that is so difficult, so difficult,
and I think that's one of the harder things to
(28:12):
try and get. And if you are ever watching Shane
steich In at a Colts practice. I mean he's around
the offense, you know, ninety percent of the time, he's
not the quarterbacks. Really a ton It's like, okay, how
much are you? You know? I felt this in the
Gus Bradley two years. To me, it was too accepting
of what was going on on that side of the
ball and not demanding enough. And if you are the
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Mike Tomlin, if you are the John Harball, if you
are the Dan Campbell, are you more observant of that? Now, again,
there are great cases for the other side of it,
John McVay, Andy Reid, Kyle Shanahan, like, there are both
sides of it. In the NFL. I just think the
operation is so hard that I'm probably more of the
again leader of men, kind of the manager of the
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operation and the CEO. And I do think there are
some areas where Shane struggles that it's certainly messaging in
a public setting, you know, I think you know, and
again I've said this many times. You know, you can
talk like Belichick in front of the media, but A
you better win and be behind the scenes that message
better be resonating. Well A right now, they've been a
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five hundred team Understiching, you know, not great, not horrific,
But the messaging has also been an issue. You know,
he he's admitted that, like I struggle at the standard
last year, and you know, specifically with Richardson, Remember how
awkward that little two week period was during his benching
where he really didn't say anything, and then two weeks
later he poured it all out there. He like finally
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said it all yeah, and it was like, oh wow,
that created I think a relief almost and then later
in the season he was so vague on Richardson's back injury,
if you remember that, and then it took Anthony to
be like, yeah, I'm like crawling to the door right now.
And you know, I think Stephen Holder had some of
this reporting. Richardson's team was really frustrat buy that mm hmm.
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Of like, I think there's an obsession from Shane in
competitive advantage stuff and I understand it to a degree,
but and maybe he doesn't care about it. Frankly, I
don't think he cares, right, I think he does go
a little too far in that world.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
As a follow up to this, do you how many
other coaches do you feel like, you know, not the
experienced coaches, the ones that are unexperienced, like Shane steike
In going into the twenty three season, going into last year,
how many of those guys are getting the Colts a
game within a playoff in twenty twenty three, and how
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many of them are you know, still somewhat competitive in
twenty twenty four, like sure of those experienced inexperienced coaches, Like,
how many of those guys are going to you know,
constantly put the Colts in positions to succeed? Because last
year we talked about it after pod after pod after pod.
Most of their losses last year were by one score.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Right, I'll go back to twenty twenty three, more than
twenty five four for me, Eddie, I come back to
the offensive side of that question, like the offensive genius, Well,
he's not really an offensive genius. I mean, how many
games did he get the Colts to at least twenty
points with Gardner minshew h Like to me, I'm not
ready to write that side of him off. The offensive
side of it. It's more of the handling of the
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entire operation is where I do have some pause right now.
Now again, the quarterback developmental project, it's just hindsight's twenty twenty.
But it is just kind of wild that, like he
wanted obsession with his craft. Jalen hurts, I'll a Justin Herbert,
I'll off Philip Rivers three very different quarterback stylistically, but
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all with that, with that gene, with that, with that trait. Yeah,
and then Ballard wanting, hey, you guys live from the pocket. Hey,
accuracy is so important, and they went with the guy
that arguably those are the two biggest questions. Yeah, you
know that. That's where it's just it is a little
head scratching.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
It just feels like they were in love with a
particular quarterback and then they may have saw you know,
Anthony's common and you know all the reports they were
getting from Morocco Brown at the time just kind of
and she was like, you know what, but yeah, I
can work with this. I mean, look at all these tools,
like and you just get caught up in all of
that and sometimes you forget about, you know, the game
play and the lack of experience and all those sorts
of things.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Yes, I'm not in my head out a lot of that.
And look, I think there's twenty twenty three audio that
would back this up. So I hope I'm not being
well it's easy to say now, but for me, you
do everything you can to get to that number one pick.
You do everything you can, and who knows, maybe would
have been Bryce Young, maybe would have been Hell, maybe
it would have been Anthey Richardson. But to me, if
your traits are defined as elite accuracy and obsessed with
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his craft, I see that quarterback in Houston a lot. Yeah,
and again I think Carolina would probably have been very
willing excuse me, Chicago would have been very willing to say, oh,
we only have to move from one to four, right
versus one to nine or whatever it was. Yeah, that
to me, and your trade offer would have looked different,
I think. And so you know, I remember making this
(32:59):
poor or analogy, but like, I want to go into
the gas station right after all the candy bar people
have stocked those shelves. I don't want to go in
there Friday at five and nobody's been there all week,
and now I'm left with freaking warheads. I had one
last night. I just immediately regretted it.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yeah, I mean, there's just so many things with the
whole thing and keV that you just like that are
head scratching. You go back to you know, yeah, and
I don't want to rehash all of it, but I know,
but they are getting these questions. Yeah, you know, you
go back to like trading the pick for the Forest
Buckner instead of taking Justin Herbert. You've got people in
the organization that were infatuated and loved Jalen Hurts. There
were decision makers that didn't and look at both of
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those guys have a ton of success. And then obviously
the to boot the Anthony Richardson thing. I know, we've
got time for one more before we get to the
uh Fantasy football trivia question. Kevin, So, overlooking the last
three questions, is the one in particular you would like
to address.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Let's just go in order. I haven't looked at them
too too closely in terms of which one would be different.
We can save the rest for next week. Okay.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Matt says he has one word, rutterless. It's really hard
to be a Colts fan right now. What Cam Turner
said I think is chicken chip and weak as hell.
Matt's words, not mine. I don't care what people need
to save their jobs now. No one can make an
informed decision on Anthony Richardson's fifth year option ar and
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the pick wasn't a bust. The processing plan was. So
what should Colts fans be hoping for this season? The
ceiling is a wild card berth when only to get
tricked like the Giants did, Why shouldn't fans want this
to blow up in this regime's face in order for
the organization to finally get some direction.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Alex Smith. Yeah, and again the Alex Smith thing, if
you want to apply it here. Okay, what a Kansas
city do They realized there was a ceiling and they
had to go out and try to find more m
Obviously they did, and arguably one of the most impressive
ways in NFL history. But this is a harsh question.
(35:05):
It's a direct question, and it's a question that I
think has a ton of validity in it. Do you
need the hardset reset? Do you need the full hard reset?
I think you can make a strong argument that you do.
And you know, you probably see this collegiately, maybe sometimes
more than professional sports. But it's like, you know, IU
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fans football fans having to witness Tom Allen at Iu
in that final year, Pacers fans having to go through
a Nate Buorkrin season hard reset to occur, and then
here comes Rec Carlisle and so boy that the process
and plan that Matt mentions here, Yeah, to me, it's
a little bit of like, hey, sixteen year old, no
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need to take any.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Driver's ad classes. Here's the driver's test. Good luck.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
That's how it feels to me. With Richardson, that's how
it feels a little bit to me, and like the
process and plan attempting that in a very serious, serious
manner that strikes me as a little bit more in
control of how we're gonna go about this than the
player himself. And I've had questions about Cam Turner, the
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QB's coach for those unfamiliar, was the nephew of Norv Right. Yes,
Norv gave change second his first head coaching eras first
coaching job in the NFL. I just generally had offensive
staff questions. I tweet out the video over the weekend,
but I asked Shann at the combine, you know, was
there any thought in changing the offensive staff coming into
year three? Do you feel like the voices needed to
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change around Anthony Richardson, I e. Jim Bob Cooter, I e.
Cam Turner, Turner specifically as a position coach, the one
who's doing Yeah, Shane's involved, but again, so many things
behind the scenes you would think.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yeah, like Jim, Bob and Camer are obviously gonna be
the ones working more directly with him, one on run,
meeting settings, whatever.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Especially backup quarterback now and you know, Shane said, no,
I want consistency in those voices. So were those the
right people at the time for the job or was
this doomed to fail from the start? And did you
mis evaluate him? You know again, Ballad didn't want to
entertain that at all.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
So I have an analogy and I want you to
rank it okay or grade it.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
So like with the.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Decision now to go to Daniel Jones, like I said
this on Quarying Company that you know, there's different seasons.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
You know, we have.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Officially entered pumpkins spice seasons. It's everywhere. Get you go
to Yankee Candle and they got all their false fall
candles and all those sorts of things, Halloween candy. Then
you get into winter and it's Christmas time and all that. Like,
So the season for the colstest year was particularly and
I think he could be best described in three words.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Job saving season. That's what it entirely was.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
And now at this point, where they're at to me
is like you're in a relationship with a girl and
either at high school or in college, and you know
you're getting ready to graduate. You've been in the relationship
for a couple of years, and particularly in the college
scen area, you to graduate.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
One of you gets.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Job right out of college, and the other one is
stuck looking for you know, that college or looking that
first job out of college. So one person is moving
on doing greater, better things. The other one's kind of behind,
still wanting to find to you know, develop, to find
that first job, to make that breakthrough. And to me,
that is where the cults are at, Like right now
you've got Shane Stacking and Chris Poward.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
They have moved on.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
They are that, you know, the guy or the girl
in the situation that's got that job out of college,
and Anthony Richardson is the guy kidding out that's still
looking in development and trying to find that job. And
that's where the ultimately decision was made to go with
Daniel and my estimation over Anthony, just because of the
fact that Shane and Chris are in this mindset now
privately they won't a minute publicly that they have to
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win to prove to Carly, Ursay, Gordon and the rest
of the daughters that they are what their father says
they are, that they are a blue chip GM. They
are the next donch He is the next Donchula in
those sorts of things.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Your thoughts when you said the father aspect, all of
a sudden, I got a lion king in my head
here of like scar talking to a young Simba. Yes,
and honestly my first thought, will that be enough? It's
a good question, you know. To further a different analogy
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is this. Unfortunately, and tragically, things have started to dip
as Jim Mercy's health started to dip, you know, when
you think about the last eighteen months of his life.
Unfortunately his health started to go downhill. You know, wasn't
at as many games as obviously we're used to seeing him,
and like you saw, the franchise also start to go
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down that path. And now it's okay, here's the next
generation of family taking over the company. If you will,
do you look at it and say it's time for
us to make our imprint or sometimes in business you
see the next generation take over and it just continued
to go downhill. Right. I think that is a real
real conversation here. I've got a run. You let the
audience know the fantasy football trivia question. All right, so
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this is hoime. We'll do it.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
You'll do at Eddie Garrison underscore on Twitter. The trivia
question is Kevin and I put our heads together for
this one. DM me once again at Eddie Garrison Underscore.
The Colts last one a regular season opener in twenty fourteen.
Name the head coach twenty thirteen, sorry, name the head
coach and the starting quarterback of the opponent. That's a
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trivia question. That's how you can get into the Colts
Corner twenty twenty five Fantasy Football League. Thank you, as
always for listening. Kevin and I will be back next
week with another episode of Colts Corner
All right, we're back another edition Colt's Corner with myself,
Kevin Bowen and Eddie Garrison. Roster is trimmed down to
fifty three. We'll see how much tinkering already a little tinkering.
We'll see how much more tinkering the rest of the week,
and of course we'll have you set coming up next week.
We'll throw out a little preview pod Colts and Dolphins
Week one, some fantasy football info Eddie. At the end
(00:23):
of this pod, maybe a trivia question related to week one.
How are you doing, sir? Doing well? Yes, we will.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
We will offer up a trivia question and we'll explain
what the question is and how you can claim a
spot in the fantasy football draft. I believe we're gonna
draft what a week from today?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I think so Wednesday night. Yeah, we're gonna shoot for
nine Easter and I hope that's not too late for
anybody out there. I mean, how the sun is still
kind of up at that hour, so if you're on
the East in time zone, you should be good. And
you know, we have listeners that sometimes aren't in our
time zone, which we greatly appreciate, so hopefully it'll help
you out from that end of it, a Eddie will
break down a little bit of roster, you know, cutdowns.
(01:04):
I don't know if we need to go position by position,
but I think also the Chris Ballad presser will certainly
be what people want to hear about, but that'll be
the general focus. Don't know fall time for all the
Twitter questions today. We might save a couple for next week.
But that's will lay of the land here on this
Wednesday afternoon pod, about an hour after Chris Ballard just
wrapped up his press conference.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Let's start with the most recent thing, Kevin. Let's start
with that Chris Ballard press conference. I don't think you
guys asked enough Anthony richardson questions, and I think you
should have definitely asked him about the white outs, because
I know he probably would have enjoyed that he.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Did bring up the white outs, just in an organic
state saying hey, I did ask him that, you know,
is there a position of strength and he did mention
white outs there. You know, Eddie, I'm not gonna lie.
I generally really look forward to the Ballad press conferences.
You know, anytime the GM talks, I think it's it's
(01:59):
important and I think compared to most gms around the league,
I say, Chris is usually relatively candid, but today there
was an element of walking in there thinking, are we
just going through the motions? Like I didn't expect anything
or shattering to your point. I had a general idea
that quarterback would be the focus, and I knew at
some point his continued backing of Anthony Richardson with words
(02:24):
would lead to frustration from him. It was about thirteen
maybe fourteen minutes into the press conference before you mentioned
you know, we have fifty one other guys in the team,
and you know, he was kind of fed up at
that point. So he had a quote at one point
where he goes, you know, he keeps on asking about
you know, watch people believe in you. Watch people believe
blah blah, they believe if you win. He probably could
(02:51):
have just said that right away, and like, that's the
general thing, And I get why people ask the question,
you know, why should fans believe in you? But also
I think it's met with a very difficult answer. Sure
what you know, maybe could there have been an acknowledgement
of hey, you know, we messed up in our plan
with Anthony From day one, and we should not have
put the pressure on him early. I you know, we
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should have found a proven starter to really learn behind
through his first year, should have brought him along slowly.
I don't know, maybe something like that becomes, you know, beneficial.
But like the thing of Anthony is like he's such
a rare prospect because even if that's your belief, you
still have a dude that's just barely played football. So
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at some point, like he's got to learn on the
field too, And what does he be learning in the
sixth or not? Sixteen? Was it nineteen games? He's missed right,
seventeen due to injury and too due to benching. So yeah,
I you know, one of our colleagues said, Bore the
prest conference start is usually the press to where Bower
gets the most pissy. I'm like, well, yes, but like
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when you have the resume that he has in year nine,
what what really can you say? And you know, honestly,
when he pivoted from the fifty one you know, fifty
one players, you know, why don't you ask about that?
Something to that effect. It is interesting that you know,
back at the combine, Eddy, when we played that interview
back in February, and honestly, this might have been the
(04:19):
combine last year. I don't think it was this year.
It might have been the combine in twenty three or
I guess twenty four. You know, why do you feel
like your ten year has not produced the results that
you would want? He largely points to quarterback, which here
we are, you know, eighteen months later, and we're kind
of back at the same song and dance. So again,
that was just my general overview. I didn't think, you know,
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are we going through the motions at this point, like
unless the results turn around, and who knows, maybe those
results won't be enough, maybe ten wins won't be enough,
but until the tangible results on the field turn around,
Like I was watching my Miami press conference right before
Ballads with Chris Greer. Their GM. Their GM as a
very similar resume to Ballard, and they're really the only
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two in the NFL. I think you kind of put
in that category of you know, nine ten years at
it and don't have lots to show for it. And
it's the same song and dance down there too, So
I guess that's kind of an interesting subplot to week one.
So that was just my general thought. You know, as
far as Daniel Jones is concerned, you know again, professionalism
and getting the team in the right position offensively, and
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all of that was where he kept on coming back
from and what he has been impressed by with him.
He didn't really point to twenty twenty two as much
as Shane Steiken did. More pointed to what he has
seen in training camp. Boy, what a great day for
Alex Smith. If you took a shot every time Alex
Smith's name was mentioned, you might wake up on you know,
Saturday morning. And he honestly used the Alex Smith comp
(05:50):
for both Jones in the short term and Richardson in
the long term. So you know, I could Daniel Jones
to have an Alex Smith type of season. I don't know. Possibly,
I you know, if you look at Smith's career, I
think there's a little bit more on the resume that
has some meat on it than Jones. But I get it.
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You know, Smith struggle with accuracy early on, and then
you know, have the shoulder issue and eventually got it
together in San Francisco, and then you know, of course
did it in Kansas City. He might have been a
little bit older even at that point. But I'd have
to go back and really analyze his career and again,
short term, yeah, I guess you could nod your head
at that. Could again Daniel Jones have a year like
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Alex Smith had? Yeah, But I would say long term,
what did Kansas City do? They made one of the
more aggressive trade ups that you'll see twenty seven to ten.
I mean, that's a giant trade up to draft Mahomes
when you were a playoff team and they forget if
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they won a game or not. But yeah, that to
me is probably where that can Harrison stops Richardson and
Joe and Smith. That one's hard for me. I mean, Eddie,
you probably weren't even alive when Alex Smith played college football,
but like that, dude had one of the more impressive
single seasons we've probably seen, especially in that day. And
that was twenty years ago where we weren't yet with
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the video game numbers, with a lot of these quarterbacks
that they now put up in that today in college football.
But I mean his I'm just thinking back to that
Youthah season. The efficiency was just through the roof. Hell,
he was a Heisman finalist. I remember him just torching
Pittsburgh in the Fiesta Bowl obviously turned to the number
one pick. Like Richardson, I mean, he didn't sniff that
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in college. And this gets back to like the Baker
Mayfield Sam Darnold comp It's like Anthony Richardson, and I
say this in quotes, he's never strung together good football,
like legit good college or pro Like is there a
four game here? Sure? But like is where is the
full season? Again?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Alex Smith was the Heisman, was a Heisman finalist. There's
not even been like back to back games. Yeah, I
mean you could, yeah, yeah, I mean if you want to.
I don't know, I probably have to go over the
Florida resume again. Ironically, I had a great game. It's
Utah to start. I remember we talked about that game,
and you know, Kevin he was, Oh, this guy's bursting
on the scene because he's had all these big plays
and then uh he has to go back it up
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the following week and he and he.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Didn't, right right right right? Yeah, And he was the
Heisman Darling for for a week or so. So yeah,
I just and you know, one point, Ballard was like, well,
you know, there's only something the effective Like you know,
Smith was a guy that you know struggled early and
turned out to be something, and there's one of them
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out there, and it's like, okay, I mean, this is
just this kind of gets back to the parlay that
you're at with with Richardson and trying to hit so
many things of injury and accuracy improvement and turnover improvement
Monday through Saturday. And I guess that's one thing. It
seemed like Ballad really wasn't going to touch anything off
the field. See Michael Richardson, he feels like he is
in a really good place there, you know, Monday through
(09:04):
Saturday and all of that. So I guess that is
good news. But again, so much of it to me
comes back to whenever he does get back out on
the field. Just look at Chris Boward's biggest question mark
with him at the end of last season. Availability. He's
got to prove that again. And are you just back
at the same song and dance with you know, only
fifteen games on his resume, So that's probably everything quarterback wise,
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unless something stood out to you. I know, you guys
are doing the show, but unless something stood out to you,
I'm good to move on.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Excuse me, that's why you don't eat peanuts right before
you start doing a podcast. Kevin noted nothing really stood
out in terms of what he said.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Oh yeah, they're not going to trade Richardson, you know,
I guess yeah, but and I agree with that. I
don't see the benefit of that right now. I what
are you getting? I don't know? Fourth rounder? Like I
would rather just say, you know what, let's see if
Daniel Jones can last seventeen James and if he doesn't,
then you play Richardson and you get more clarity on
(10:05):
that answer. He still is utter contract for next year,
so you still would have some team control on him
for next year. Again, you got to trade him by Halloween,
so you really got to see a team get super desperate,
super quick for them to be entertained by Richardson. And
I believe Ballad I would be surprised if they traded
him before Halloween. So obviously the trade deadline then is there,
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and you know, you get to the off season and
see what happens. I don't think his trade value will
entirely change too much on August twenty seventh or February
twenty seventh, So I.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Thought there was a lot of the smug and the
self confidence in the pravado that was on display.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, you know, I saw people. Boy, he seems so defensive.
I'm like, I mean, isn't that kind of how he's
been lately in press conferences? I mean, isn't that kind
of largely how he is in press conferences? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
And I understand too, like the comment he made. But
I think it was James who asked him like, hey,
there are any pressure and he goes like, nah, I
don't feel any pressure. Like at some point you would
feel like there would be some sort of like crack
of like yeah, I've you know, I've really got to
win now, like this is my time. When if not,
then you know that's in the future card. You know,
remember the card he played a month ago. The card
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at the end of training camp asked a similar question,
or I should say, at the start of training camp,
was you know, no pressure is people going paycheck to paycheck?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
You know he went that route, so he just chose
a different route to go. I I yeah, I guess
when you've been a part of so many ballot press conferences,
maybe you're kind of numb to it.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I understand where you're coming from. There, but I'm just
I know there's fans out there to be like certain dude.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Certainly, I think there's only so many words he could
have said, and I don't know, maybe he should have
been less offensive, maybe he should have acknowledged a little
bit more of like. But I just kind of shrug
my shoulders and hands up in the air and say,
either he tangibly has results on the field that makes
people change their minds, or you know, it's that might
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be today might have been the final time we see
Chris Bout on a press conference setting. I mean, if
it doesn't go well this season, you know, that's it. Really.
It's not like he talks. Unless I'm missing something, it's
not like he talks. He talks again. So yeah, I
that's kind of where I'm at with with.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Quarterback wise, Let's talk about the other fifty one players
on the roster of oll not each one of them Kevin,
but the Colts fifty three man roster. The initial roster,
nonetheless is officially out and it's already outdated. They made
one change today starting with the quarterbacks. Kevin, they had four,
they cut it down to three, Jason being gone meeting,
it's Daniel Jones, Anthony Richardson, Riley Leonard, no shock there.
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Moving to running backs, they had seven and they cut
down to three. One of those running backs that they
did keep is currently injured. We don't really know the
status of that's being Tyler Goodson. The other two backs
with Goodson in that room obviously Jonathan Taylor and DJ Giddens.
Anything to add.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Here on this front, they do let go of Khalil Herbert. Yeah,
and you let's subpently the fourth be curious if he
goes the practice squad and then could he get the
Week one call up or could Herbert, you know, linger
around practice squad get the call up? You know? And
I'm saying that if Goodson, Tyler Goodson at that elbow injury,
if he's not ready, I still would explore a pass
catching running back. That to me, I think is a
question mark. Every time watch Jonathan Taylor, I just get nervy, man,
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right in the football Did you go nervy? I went nervy? Yeah?
Is that right? Is that not right? A little nervy?
Are you trying to be like the hip with the
kids or something? I feel like all the kids say
is bet these days. Oh that's outdated? Do you know
what Aura Farming is or slaps? Its?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Slaps? Slaps is outdated? Okay, but Bett is also outdated. Yeah,
I feel like I hear the athletes say it too.
I feel like I hear the NFL and the NBA
players say it. Well, maybe they may say it, but
I'm telling you it's a little outdated. I mean, I
got a brother and sister in college, Kevin, I'm very
up to date, like Aora Farming.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Do you know what that is? Tell that to you know,
James Johnson or Grover two or something like that. So
running back surprised me a little bit, but I guess
there's just some uncertainty there back end wise, you know,
white out and tight end. I thought it was super straight.
For do you see Jolani Woods to the Jets?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I did see Jolani Woods the to the Jets, Crystal
Mons to the Titans?
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Uh uh no? W Mac Mac? Sorry y yeah, Ron Corny,
Samuel Womack for the Titans, and yeah, who's the oh
Juju Brents to the to the Dolphins. So I guess
I'll start with Woods. I just never thought he was
a real, real strong candidate to push Will Mallory off
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the roster. That's me seemed pretty obvious, you know, the
on the Juju Brents front. I guess we're jumping around
a little bit here. But while we talk about the waivers,
you know, Baller kind of summarized it as bad luck.
I you know, I I do feel bad for Juju
in the sense of, like I thought when he played,
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albeit a very small sample size, what eleven games. I
did think you saw a little bit there, yep, about
eleven of thirty four games. I mean, he was less
available than Richardson and then he was hurt this all season.
I thought that was just kind of That's what made
me pause a little bit of like they kept Jonathan
Edwards over Juju. You know, part of me thought, hey,
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can you sneak Edwards to practice squad, the undrafted kid
out of Tulane. Keep Juju? See what he does for
a month or two as he gets back to health.
You know, it's only year three of that rookie contract.
But they obviously decided to do something different with him. Ironically,
it goes to Miami, which you're gonna see here in
Week one. I don't think I've ever seen a position
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in the ballad era be addressed more than cornerback has
been addressed this offseason, right, And I get some of
these guys are aging, and I get some of these
guys are no longer maybe that type of player, But
think about it all pro Saveria's Ward added all pron
Xavier and Howard added a third round pick spent on
Justin Wally. A former third round pick added in Makai Blackman.
You traded a sixth rounder for him, and we'll see
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how the rest of the week plays out with them.
Like that's a ton And they brought back all their
big snap guys from last year anymore, crys La Mons,
Samuel Wallmack Jude Jalen Jones. So you know right there,
I I I feel like you've got to look at
Ballard and say, thank you. Here is a position of
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struggle last season, and you gave it heavy attention in
the off season.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Now, did lou Anne Room will have a you know,
influence on that quite possibly? Obviously there are some ties
directly to lou within that within that room, but still
that is taking a Hey, we were weak in this
area last year. Let's try and strengthen it. And so
I do think Ballard deserves some credit there, and we'll
see how it plays out. You know, will there be
growing pains early on in the year, You know, possibly,
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Obviously it's an aging group. When you look at it,
you know, very old. Honestly, when you look at some
of those names, you know, where's Blackman after a year
off in the acl Where's Howard after a year off?
You know, those are some questions that you have. But
Man cornerback, they just totally totally re retooled.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Seemed pretty confident in his Zami and Howard though today
mentioned that he feels like the year off really helped
him from a physical standpoint.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Right and again, I yeah, I you know, they watched
him in three practices, so you know what happens when
Tyreek Hill and Jayleen Latta all running at you for
forty fifty snaps a week from Sunday.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
All right, now, let's get into Chris Pallace's favorite positions
to look at in the depth. Start starting with the
offensive line had fourteen, they cut off five, so they
have nine on the active roster.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
At this moment.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Channer Borderlini Macnzalvez, Quentin Neilson, Danny Pinter, Bernard Ryman, Brayden Smith,
Luke Tanuda, Jalen Travis, Dalton Tucker. Meaning these were the
five that did not make the cut. Marshall Forner, Wesley French,
Marcellus Johnson, Josh Sills, and I don't even know how
to say this last one, Mose Vaval.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Mos Vaval. Yeah, I'm gonna go with Moses. I think
you are right, but I'm not going to try to
act like I'm right, and I'll just say nothing and
say it was cut. So I yeah, this is the
nine that I had. I thought maybe offensive tackle, they
might try to play the wayver game game. But they
like Luke Tanuda bit here. He benefits from the Blake
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Freeland thing, you know, d line. I was a number short.
I stretched it to ten. I saw they just cut
Tim Smith, the draft pick out Alabama to make room
for Chad Moomba, So they kept Thereic Johnson bringing back
the old fifth round pick, kept him over Tim Smith.
So now they're back to ten defensive linemen. You know,
if you're going to keep such a big number, I
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usually like one of those ten to be the flashy
defensive end prospect. Isaiah Lamb Right, you know that type
of guy, and I get it, you've seen him for
two years. Maybe he's done. They didn't go that route,
so they obviously are keeping a ton of beef up front.
If you go to linebacker Eddie, I think one of
the best things about roster cuts. If you look at it,
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twenty one of twenty two starters that you would have
had their July twenty seventh, you will have an all
likelihood for week one, assuming Josh Down's is good, assuming
that cross is good. You know those sorts of things.
Not a lot of teams can say that. You know,
last year, I Samson Ebcom obviously towards Achilles, but you know,
outside of Justin Wally, I mean, you are pretty darn healthy.
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I mean Jalen Carlies. I bring that up because linebacker, Yes,
he's gonna miss at least a month. He's your only
ir to return candidate exiting camp, and he was already
losing that starting job in my mind before he got hurt.
I think Joe Botchi had kind of taken that from him.
So I'll be curious what they do next to Franklin
saw a report of Anthony Walker speaking of guys coming
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back to the Colts visiting and working out for the
team on Thursday. You know, Lou mentioned I like to
rotate there, so we'll see how they handle that. That's
still a position that I've got some I've got some
concern on, not to say the least.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Beller did say during the press conference today, because he
was asked directly about Mike Kilton. He did say that
they'll start bringing in some veteran type players to you know,
kick the tires on to that in a pinch that
you know, say somebody goes down, they can bring him
in and have some familiarity with them already, get a
look at him and know how what shape they're in
and what they're looking looking like, just for purposes of
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making sure the audience knows who Wall's in that defensive
line position group. Addie Tommy will out of Orri to
forst Buckner, Samson, abacom Nevill Gallimore, Eric Johnson. The second
leots to a lot to Taekwon, Lewis Quitt pay, Tim
Smith who was released today, Griver Stewart and JT. Twey Mololau.
And linebackers they had nine they go with four Joe Bacchi,
Zion Franklin, Cam mcgron and chagoon A Louviing now to
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the cornerback room. They had six initially Kevin McKay, Blackman,
Jonathan Edwards, Zavy and Howard Jalen Jones, Kenny Moore the second,
Travarius Ward Safeties. They go with four can Binde him,
Nick Cross, Daniel Scott and Rodney Thomas the second the specialists.
No shocker there, Luke Rowse, you're a long snapper. Ricoberto
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Sanchez your punter, and Spencer Strader is your kicker.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Congrats. Spencer Trader officially wins that Mattix Triuvia must have
got hurt. It's always waved injured. One last thing I'll add,
because I know it was a big topic from yesterday
Eddie was you know, seeing Juju get cut, and you
know where Anthony Richson's career arcs going, you know, Blake
Freeland unfortunately season Indie injury. The first two years you
didn't get a whole lot out of them. Obviously, the
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start of that twenty twenty three draft has some pretty
woof Yeah. That's yeah, that's a that's a much more
succinct and effective way to put it than I was going.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
To go because that's Richardson downs Freeland right down at Jones, Right, Brents.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Is the second round Brents that you have there? Yeah?
Twenty three? Yeah, yeah, he got some day three years that.
You know. Jalen Jones obviously has been really nice, fine,
but largely I think what is frustrating about that miss
draft is it came at such a critical juncture for
the franchise needing to restart things. You know, when you
when you think about the restart moments that the Colts
have had, think about twenty eleven to twelve eleven, you suffer,
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you win two games, here comes a twelve draft. You're
drafting first in every round, right or first or second.
You know, I forget if Washington and then flip flop,
but think about that draft. Luck Fleeiner, Dwayne Allen, t
Y Hilton, Vic Ballard, I mean just massively core players
to eleven wins that first year, then eleven the next,
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then eleven the following year. Like you know, that helped
you get back on track asap. Think about the next
three start time twenty seventeen. Four wins to twenty eighteen
went Nelson, Braydon Smith, Darius Leonard. You know you found
some early success Nahim Heinz in that draft class that
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helped you do what make the playoffs in twenty eighteen,
win a playoff game in twenty eighteen, get back to
the playoffs in twenty twenty. Now that group maybe didn't
have as much stain power, but it was really important. Well,
let's look at twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three.
What happens in twenty twenty two. You go four twelve
and one, you have one of the most embarrassing seasons
in franchise history. The whole Matt Ryan, the whole Jeff
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Saturday saga, all that plays out. And now look at
the twenty twenty three draft. You described it as wolf
like that can't happen, And I think, if I'm carl
Ersa Gordon, I think back to Okay. So, my dad
and Chris Ballard back in whatever twenty twenty three decided
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to have a reset, and they said it was going
to take a couple of years. So in order for
that reset to have some solid foundation, some nice limestone
if you will, from Indiana on it, then you need
to hit on those picks. Because you're drafting high. You're
not drafting middle of the rounds into the rounds like
you are maybe in some other years. No, no, no, you're
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drafting really high in all those rounds. That has to
be taking advantage of. And when you four go free agency,
for as much as Ballard has, your draft hit rate
can't be fifty to fifty. Twenty twenty two had some
really nice hits, twenty twenty one a little bit of
a dip. Twenty twenty had some hits, But having fifty
to fifty only gets you so far when you operate
in the free agency manner that you do.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
So that is something as well. You ready for Twitter questions, kab, Yes,
let's do it. We got a handful to get to.
And for those of you that listened to Quarying Company
on the fan from twelve to three Easter Monday through Friday.
By the way, you're very familiar with the person that
is my only friend, and he leads us off today
in Twitter questions. His name is Alec only friend.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Alec.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Here we go, Yeah, that is literally how he gets
referenced on the show. Is Eddie's only friend?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Alec.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Alex says he did some research on Chris Ballard in
Day two picks that I've struggled to stay healthy and
how much they missed in college in terms of games.
Former colts, we all know Shack Leonard the story there.
Paris Campbell, he missed three games in college. Jolanny Woods
did not miss any games. Juju Brents played in seven games.
It's a true freshman. Played in one game as a
sophomore before going down. Missed a game in at twenty
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twenty and did not miss a game his last two years.
Julian Blackman missed two games at Utah. Current Colts Jonathan
Taylor missed one game. A Branden Smith did not miss
any games. Justin Wally missed two games. Is this just
bad luck? Or is this an indictment on the strength
and conditioning staff as well as the medical staff for
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the Indianapolis Colts well alec.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Unfortunately, he's asking questions that Kevin Bowen struggles to answer
injury questions. I just I just battle with and like,
trust me, I have a to your point, Justin Wallly,
unbelievable health in college and then boom, all of a sudden,
you know, terroris acl I think there are some examples
of it, some that don't apply to it. Necessarily, and
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that's why I think makes it so frustrating. I do
largely agree on this. I think at times it's just
too overly reliant on the raz yep relative athletics score
just too much on the athlete, athlete, athlete, and there's
just a level of what about football player, what about
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football body that is able to handle some of the
you know, not necessarily these track athletes, if you will.
That I think is where I would probably side on.
It's a totally fair question. It's a good question, but
I think it's difficult to answer.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Next up is JJ Shane Steichen came to Indianapolis with
the reputation of being a quote brilliant offensive nine end quote.
Is he still described similarly? Also after a few seasons
in Indy? Is he really head coach material? It seems
like he'd prefer designing offensive plays to leading a team.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, I am, you know, I do think quarterback is
probably I guess the quote right there? What was it
he preferred designing offensive plays versus leading a team? Yeah, yeah,
I I I'm doing the Alonzo morning gift right now.
I mean that's I can see that, or like the
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security yard in one last dance. That one has a
little bit more emotion than than Big Z. Ryan Bones's
favorite player growing up by the real of morning. Oh yeah,
I loved himself some. So I used to rock a
hornet's jersey that Ryan passed down to me, very very
gracious for that. I had no chance I could fit
in that. Actually, I can feel like the threads of
the jersey just splitting right now imagining myself trying to
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fit in that. Yeah, you know it is he really
head coach material. I mean last year, think about it, Eddie,
he felt the need to Hey, I am not enforcing
the standard enough. I'm not clearly it's not resonating enough
that general aspect. I mean, he is an offensive minded
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head coach. And I think there's a fine balance you
have with these coaches. It's especially when you're in a
situation where the Koltar where they struggled with quarterbacks so much.
You wanted more of the offensive, you wanted more of
the quarterback guru. But where do you blend in leader
of men? And finding that is so difficult, so difficult,
and I think that's one of the harder things to
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try and get. And if you are ever watching Shane
steich In at a Colts practice. I mean he's around
the offense, you know, ninety percent of the time, he's
not the quarterbacks. Really a ton It's like, okay, how
much are you? You know? I felt this in the
Gus Bradley two years. To me, it was too accepting
of what was going on on that side of the
ball and not demanding enough. And if you are the
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Mike Tomlin, if you are the John Harball, if you
are the Dan Campbell, are you more observant of that? Now, again,
there are great cases for the other side of it,
John McVay, Andy Reid, Kyle Shanahan, like, there are both
sides of it. In the NFL. I just think the
operation is so hard that I'm probably more of the
again leader of men, kind of the manager of the
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operation and the CEO. And I do think there are
some areas where Shane struggles that it's certainly messaging in
a public setting, you know, I think you know, and
again I've said this many times. You know, you can
talk like Belichick in front of the media, but A
you better win and be behind the scenes that message
better be resonating. Well A right now, they've been a
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five hundred team Understiching, you know, not great, not horrific,
But the messaging has also been an issue. You know,
he he's admitted that, like I struggle at the standard
last year, and you know, specifically with Richardson, Remember how
awkward that little two week period was during his benching
where he really didn't say anything, and then two weeks
later he poured it all out there. He like finally
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said it all yeah, and it was like, oh wow,
that created I think a relief almost and then later
in the season he was so vague on Richardson's back injury,
if you remember that, and then it took Anthony to
be like, yeah, I'm like crawling to the door right now.
And you know, I think Stephen Holder had some of
this reporting. Richardson's team was really frustrat buy that mm hmm.
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Of like, I think there's an obsession from Shane in
competitive advantage stuff and I understand it to a degree,
but and maybe he doesn't care about it. Frankly, I
don't think he cares, right, I think he does go
a little too far in that world.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
As a follow up to this, do you how many
other coaches do you feel like, you know, not the
experienced coaches, the ones that are unexperienced, like Shane steike
In going into the twenty three season, going into last year,
how many of those guys are getting the Colts a
game within a playoff in twenty twenty three, and how
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many of them are you know, still somewhat competitive in
twenty twenty four, like sure of those experienced inexperienced coaches, Like,
how many of those guys are going to you know,
constantly put the Colts in positions to succeed? Because last
year we talked about it after pod after pod after pod.
Most of their losses last year were by one score.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Right, I'll go back to twenty twenty three, more than
twenty five four for me, Eddie, I come back to
the offensive side of that question, like the offensive genius, Well,
he's not really an offensive genius. I mean, how many
games did he get the Colts to at least twenty
points with Gardner minshew h Like to me, I'm not
ready to write that side of him off. The offensive
side of it. It's more of the handling of the
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entire operation is where I do have some pause right now.
Now again, the quarterback developmental project, it's just hindsight's twenty twenty.
But it is just kind of wild that, like he
wanted obsession with his craft. Jalen hurts, I'll a Justin Herbert,
I'll off Philip Rivers three very different quarterback stylistically, but
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all with that, with that gene, with that, with that trait. Yeah,
and then Ballard wanting, hey, you guys live from the pocket. Hey,
accuracy is so important, and they went with the guy
that arguably those are the two biggest questions. Yeah, you
know that. That's where it's just it is a little
head scratching.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
It just feels like they were in love with a
particular quarterback and then they may have saw you know,
Anthony's common and you know all the reports they were
getting from Morocco Brown at the time just kind of
and she was like, you know what, but yeah, I
can work with this. I mean, look at all these tools,
like and you just get caught up in all of
that and sometimes you forget about, you know, the game
play and the lack of experience and all those sorts
of things.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Yes, I'm not in my head out a lot of that.
And look, I think there's twenty twenty three audio that
would back this up. So I hope I'm not being
well it's easy to say now, but for me, you
do everything you can to get to that number one pick.
You do everything you can, and who knows, maybe would
have been Bryce Young, maybe would have been Hell, maybe
it would have been Anthey Richardson. But to me, if
your traits are defined as elite accuracy and obsessed with
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his craft, I see that quarterback in Houston a lot. Yeah,
and again I think Carolina would probably have been very
willing excuse me, Chicago would have been very willing to say, oh,
we only have to move from one to four, right
versus one to nine or whatever it was. Yeah, that
to me, and your trade offer would have looked different,
I think. And so you know, I remember making this
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poor or analogy, but like, I want to go into
the gas station right after all the candy bar people
have stocked those shelves. I don't want to go in
there Friday at five and nobody's been there all week,
and now I'm left with freaking warheads. I had one
last night. I just immediately regretted it.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yeah, I mean, there's just so many things with the
whole thing and keV that you just like that are
head scratching. You go back to you know, yeah, and
I don't want to rehash all of it, but I know,
but they are getting these questions. Yeah, you know, you
go back to like trading the pick for the Forest
Buckner instead of taking Justin Herbert. You've got people in
the organization that were infatuated and loved Jalen Hurts. There
were decision makers that didn't and look at both of
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those guys have a ton of success. And then obviously
the to boot the Anthony Richardson thing. I know, we've
got time for one more before we get to the
uh Fantasy football trivia question. Kevin, So, overlooking the last
three questions, is the one in particular you would like
to address.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Let's just go in order. I haven't looked at them
too too closely in terms of which one would be different.
We can save the rest for next week. Okay.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Matt says he has one word, rutterless. It's really hard
to be a Colts fan right now. What Cam Turner
said I think is chicken chip and weak as hell.
Matt's words, not mine. I don't care what people need
to save their jobs now. No one can make an
informed decision on Anthony Richardson's fifth year option ar and
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the pick wasn't a bust. The processing plan was. So
what should Colts fans be hoping for this season? The
ceiling is a wild card berth when only to get
tricked like the Giants did, Why shouldn't fans want this
to blow up in this regime's face in order for
the organization to finally get some direction.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Alex Smith. Yeah, and again the Alex Smith thing, if
you want to apply it here. Okay, what a Kansas
city do They realized there was a ceiling and they
had to go out and try to find more m
Obviously they did, and arguably one of the most impressive
ways in NFL history. But this is a harsh question.
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It's a direct question, and it's a question that I
think has a ton of validity in it. Do you
need the hardset reset? Do you need the full hard reset?
I think you can make a strong argument that you do.
And you know, you probably see this collegiately, maybe sometimes
more than professional sports. But it's like, you know, IU
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fans football fans having to witness Tom Allen at Iu
in that final year, Pacers fans having to go through
a Nate Buorkrin season hard reset to occur, and then
here comes Rec Carlisle and so boy that the process
and plan that Matt mentions here, Yeah, to me, it's
a little bit of like, hey, sixteen year old, no
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need to take any.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Driver's ad classes. Here's the driver's test. Good luck.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
That's how it feels to me. With Richardson, that's how
it feels a little bit to me, and like the
process and plan attempting that in a very serious, serious
manner that strikes me as a little bit more in
control of how we're gonna go about this than the
player himself. And I've had questions about Cam Turner, the
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QB's coach for those unfamiliar, was the nephew of Norv Right. Yes,
Norv gave change second his first head coaching eras first
coaching job in the NFL. I just generally had offensive
staff questions. I tweet out the video over the weekend,
but I asked Shann at the combine, you know, was
there any thought in changing the offensive staff coming into
year three? Do you feel like the voices needed to
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change around Anthony Richardson, I e. Jim Bob Cooter, I e.
Cam Turner, Turner specifically as a position coach, the one
who's doing Yeah, Shane's involved, but again, so many things
behind the scenes you would think.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yeah, like Jim, Bob and Camer are obviously gonna be
the ones working more directly with him, one on run,
meeting settings, whatever.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Especially backup quarterback now and you know, Shane said, no,
I want consistency in those voices. So were those the
right people at the time for the job or was
this doomed to fail from the start? And did you
mis evaluate him? You know again, Ballad didn't want to
entertain that at all.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
So I have an analogy and I want you to
rank it okay or grade it.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
So like with the.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Decision now to go to Daniel Jones, like I said
this on Quarying Company that you know, there's different seasons.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
You know, we have.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Officially entered pumpkins spice seasons. It's everywhere. Get you go
to Yankee Candle and they got all their false fall
candles and all those sorts of things, Halloween candy. Then
you get into winter and it's Christmas time and all that. Like,
So the season for the colstest year was particularly and
I think he could be best described in three words.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Job saving season. That's what it entirely was.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
And now at this point, where they're at to me
is like you're in a relationship with a girl and
either at high school or in college, and you know
you're getting ready to graduate. You've been in the relationship
for a couple of years, and particularly in the college
scen area, you to graduate.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
One of you gets.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Job right out of college, and the other one is
stuck looking for you know, that college or looking that
first job out of college. So one person is moving
on doing greater, better things. The other one's kind of behind,
still wanting to find to you know, develop, to find
that first job, to make that breakthrough. And to me,
that is where the cults are at, Like right now
you've got Shane Stacking and Chris Poward.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
They have moved on.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
They are that, you know, the guy or the girl
in the situation that's got that job out of college,
and Anthony Richardson is the guy kidding out that's still
looking in development and trying to find that job. And
that's where the ultimately decision was made to go with
Daniel and my estimation over Anthony, just because of the
fact that Shane and Chris are in this mindset now
privately they won't a minute publicly that they have to
(38:41):
win to prove to Carly, Ursay, Gordon and the rest
of the daughters that they are what their father says
they are, that they are a blue chip GM. They
are the next donch He is the next Donchula in
those sorts of things.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Your thoughts when you said the father aspect, all of
a sudden, I got a lion king in my head
here of like scar talking to a young Simba. Yes,
and honestly my first thought, will that be enough? It's
a good question, you know. To further a different analogy
(39:14):
is this. Unfortunately, and tragically, things have started to dip
as Jim Mercy's health started to dip, you know, when
you think about the last eighteen months of his life.
Unfortunately his health started to go downhill. You know, wasn't
at as many games as obviously we're used to seeing him,
and like you saw, the franchise also start to go
(39:35):
down that path. And now it's okay, here's the next
generation of family taking over the company. If you will,
do you look at it and say it's time for
us to make our imprint or sometimes in business you
see the next generation take over and it just continued
to go downhill. Right. I think that is a real
real conversation here. I've got a run. You let the
audience know the fantasy football trivia question. All right, so
(39:58):
this is hoime. We'll do it.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
You'll do at Eddie Garrison underscore on Twitter. The trivia
question is Kevin and I put our heads together for
this one. DM me once again at Eddie Garrison Underscore.
The Colts last one a regular season opener in twenty fourteen.
Name the head coach twenty thirteen, sorry, name the head
coach and the starting quarterback of the opponent. That's a
(40:22):
trivia question. That's how you can get into the Colts
Corner twenty twenty five Fantasy Football League. Thank you, as
always for listening. Kevin and I will be back next
week with another episode of Colts Corner
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