November 13, 2025 • 50 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, we are back. It is Colt's Corner with myself,
Kevin Bowen and Eddie Garrison as the Colts are on
their bye week, so we'll still with this pod this week.
Next week we'll probably go with you Wednesday afternoon. That way,
at least get an injury report on Colts Chiefs as
one of the more anticipated games certainly of the regular
season is here. Eddie Garrison, good morning to you.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good morning, congratulations, welcome Nelly Bowen to the world. Thank you,
congratulations to you. And nice job by Maddie Bowen by
powering through it all.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Boy, that is an understatement to say that, so yeah,
very thank you just for that, Eddie, and all of
our nurses doctors just rather wild frankly watching how seamless
they can make it work or look, I should say,
and Maddie an absolute rock star there. So yes, little
Nelly into the world on Friday. Appreciate everybody has reached
(00:52):
out with some nice messages. And I never thought I'd
be watching morning international coffee football holding my daughter from
the huh spittal, but nonetheless that's where I was Sunday morning.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Nelly, a much better welcome to Notre Dame football than
Max Spillin.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Right when Navy scored to tie the game at seven,
I thought to myself, oh is this happening again. But
then when Notre Dame rattled off whatever it was forty
two or something in around after that or forty two
to three the rest of the way, I was very
very happy. I did the push ups with her in
the room, Eddie, you know, kind of held her.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Up to the uh huh I saw. I saw the
video from Maddi.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
It's sold nervous if Maddy thought that would be a
good thing or not, but she actually laughed at that,
So I was very grateful for her support. With the Irish. Yeah,
I mean you talk about wild football, I mean literally
in that hotel. But by the way, having a fall
baby very underrated. This is my first fall baby. I
was reminded, well, at some point you're gonna have birthday
parties or around that, so it might not be great.
But from waking up at the start of the final
(01:48):
Indiana drive, literally woke up at the start of that
drive from a little nap, and then to watch Notre
Dame of course, and then to watch Colts Falcons and
Jonathan Taylor doing Jonathan Taylor things that was I was
quite the So today's pot, Eddie, I do want to
look a little bit back on that Falcons game and
just kind of go over a few items. We don't
have to get into the full what I liked, what
I didn't like, a little bit of diforce Buckner news
(02:11):
is that item broke after our pod last week, and
then a lot of Twitter questions, a lot of kind
of big picture bye week stuff what you would typically
find there. So we'll do that.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Let's dive into that win for the Colts on the
road in Berlin right before the bye week. Kevin, we've
had some time, mainly you have had some time to
kind of stew on it and kind of formulate your thoughts.
So overall, what do you think of the Colts being
able to a you know, Jonathan Taylor to will them
to victory, especially late in regulation and a couple of
nice throws from Daniel Jones there in overtime as well,
(02:43):
and Taylor able to finish off the Falcons.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Boy, what a Heisman moment, if you will, What an
MVP moment from Taylor And you know, again it's some
combination of his patience, his ability to rev it up
zero to sixty quickly in the open field. And you
know what, Eddie, that the run itself there in regulation,
(03:07):
you know, I think kind of largely speaks for itself.
But like his ability to make Billy Bowman miss in
the backfield in overtime and then do it to Jesse
Bates in the game winner. Like how many times you
see running back successfully do that? Let alone at two
hundred and whatever, he is twenty some pounds. And I
go back to that Denver play earlier this season. You know,
(03:28):
in the backfield, look like a tackle for loss. He
rips it off down that right sideline for sixty years.
So and think about all these plays he's had this
season now, obviously the play in Berlin, the Denver run.
I thought one of his best runs of the year
was the Ady Mitchell holding penalty against the Rams. I mean,
that was an incredible run.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Here.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
So's that bird poop on my hat? I don't know,
I'm so nervous. Let me see just poop everywhere these days?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Let me see it.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Oh, I think it's toothpaste now that I think about it.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Are we sure that's toothpaste? Kevin?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah, Yeah, there's tasted a minty flavor.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
There, Okay, I'm glad it was meant not salty. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Cool, there, man, you got some issues here on this
Thursday morning.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I do you have issues? You know?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
That play from Taylor, it's just those players I think
in overtime, honestly, might even be just more into the
individually impressive. It almost was like on the eighty yard
or obviously he reps it up, but you know there's
a lot of give up there from the Atlanta Falcons
on that play, but you know it was needed. And
you know, I always feel this way about these sorts
of wins. Eddie, like you can look at him in
(04:31):
two lights, two lights, and maybe some people look at
the Indiana win over Penn State in a similar light,
like do you look at it from a a wins
a win championship resolve? Everyone has these games? Or is
it m even in a when you can't ignore the questions?
You know, like Indiana is a big favorite over Penn State.
(04:53):
You know in NFL terms, the Culture are a big
favorite over the Atlanta Falcons, and you know you need
you literally have what probably three plays where the game
could have ended, like the fourth and two the misfield.
You know, if miss deftfield, I thought one of the
bigger Daniel Jones plays, and you obviously mentioned the two
throws was a scramble on third and twenty one. I
thought at third and twenty one time, my thought was
(05:15):
you take two shots to out Pierce just period. Yeah, Like,
when's the last time Pierce has been thrown an on
target deep ball and he hasn't come down with it?
That's true, He comes down with all of them, and
if he doesn't, he gets a flag. Yeah, Like, it's
amazing how great of a weapon he is now Again,
(05:35):
the key is obviously on target there. That was certainly
a big play early on, you know, Warren, you know,
having the you know, I was curious if they would
have called that a fumble on the field, would they've
overturned that to start the drive? But the fourth and
two just a big play and then obviously the little
Saale corner rout everyone to describe it there and overtime
(05:57):
was huge. So that was a pretty throw too. Yeah,
that was one of the best throws we've seen. Those
returns by a Mirra Abdullah were huge and even dueling there.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
They say and have special teams was much different. Special
teams a roller coaster. Yeah, you know, that was an
absolute roller coaster. So, you know, a couple other items. Defensively,
I don't know if fine. Like I thought, for the
most part, the defense did a nice job. But then
at the end of the day, it's like, well, you
gave up the second most points the Falcons have scored
(06:27):
all year. I mean, Alanta has been bad offensively many Yeah,
ten or less than four of their eight games had
been Sunday, Like, you know, for that much star power,
you know, I thought you caused some Pinnix issues.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
But he also I thought just missed some wide open dudes. Yep,
NFL open dudes as well. You know, Gardener, I thought,
for the most part was was pretty good considering all
the expectations. Obviously, the two point conversion, you know, is
a play he'd liked to have back of the said
he slipped on that play.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I bet you we'd like to have the Drake London
touchdown back as well.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, the one with Jermaine Pratt. Yeah, yeah, that was
kind of a it seemed like kind of the issues
of the mix ups with Gardner were mainly zone related. Yeah,
you know, just a little bit of unsure yeah, because
Kurt Warner.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Did a good job on the telecast highlighting and he goes,
you know, Sauce Gardner has you know, on on the
screen the right side of the field. For him, it's
the left side of the field. So and he just
got distracted by the eyes of Pennix looking at Kyle Pitts.
So he took Kyle Pitts and it left that back
right zone wide open for Drake London and the only
person there to take him was Jermaine Pratt.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
So I think you saw. And we'll get into the
deforce Buckner situation here in just a second. But like
the cam buying them play, to me is a little
Sauce Gardner presence. You're taking your deep field free safety
and you're blissing them off the edge. And again, I
think there was some comfortability and trust, and that's pre
you know, Mooney Ward, I'm worried about Michael Badgley. I
(07:52):
think I've been worried about it pretty much the whole time.
You know, when you miss another extra point, two extra
points missed in five games. I had to go back
twenty twenty one, the last time the Colts missed two
extra points, you know, Matt Gave didn't miss a single one.
Last year he missed one, and twenty three, twenty twenty two,
the Colts miss an extra point. So it's kind of
crazy how rare it is. And I think I told
(08:13):
you this, and I'll not forget watching Badgeley's first practice
out there, and it was a pretty nice day out
there at fifty sixth Street. And when he came up
short on at least one, if not two field goals
a practice, I thought it myself, Man, you don't see
NFL kickers coming.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Up short, especially at fifty three.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Right, And like, think about the fourth and two, Eddie.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Those are almost missed automatic.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Now, the fourth and two would have been a fifty
eight yarder, I believe.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Are you talking about like in the opening drive.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
No, the fourth and two to Tyler Warren there, okay,
lighton regulation, that would have been a fifty eight yarder.
I mean, how many NFL teams would have just attempted
the field goal?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Then that would have been a forty five yard on
the first drive when they turned it over down.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, which again I'm not you know, knowing psyching, I'm
not too shocked by that. But but the final drive,
you know, instead of attempting the forty four yarder, Yeah,
it would have been fifty eight there. I mean, I
don't know, maybe eighty percent of NFL team is probably
attempt the field goal. Then, yeah, you don't get a
lot of them actually attempting the field goal or you know,
trying to go for it and get further yards. And
(09:16):
a sneaky little play was pitting then right before the
field goal. You know, you got what ten or twelve
there right before the forty four yard er, and that
was obviously a huge, huge play as well. So you know,
those were I think in general just kind of my
thoughts on the game. I guess we got to talk
a little Daniel Jones again. I thought the third and
twenty one scramble was just huge, and I do think
(09:38):
it's the most leg element game we've seen from Jones.
And I do think that's an area that you can
continue to tap into because you have to pick your
poison with his offense, and you know, if you're gonna
bring some pressure and play man, you know, Jones certainly
has that ability to do that. I mean, it is
kind of wild of like, you know, how do you
view Jones exiting the bye week yep, is this regression
(10:01):
to the mean, you know, the whole baseball card analogy, Eddie.
He really defied the back of his own baseball card
through the first eight games. Is that him? Is this
the new Daniel Jones and like it was just a
hiccup or two these last two weeks or is he
getting back to the baseball card now again? I do
(10:21):
think I know I've joked about this. I have half joked,
half serious. We're almost in the air of Chris Ballard.
Where we go, you know, pre CB and ACB, you know,
the old pre Chris Ballard and now the after Chris
Ballard has decided to you know, do things differently in
his operating you know, is that there for Daniel Jones
and a Shane Staken offense. Is that they're you know,
(10:42):
for him in a Colts uniform period there? So you know,
I know I've said this before, but the whole Peyton
Manning adage of you know a huge part of being
a quarterback is don't make.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
A bad play worse.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
And right now when the bad plays have shown up,
he's starting to make them worse. Whether it's not finding
it the checkdowns, whether it's just holding onto the football period.
You know, I thought that I thought the fumble on
that third quarter screen was just that was egregious, you know,
when you're in field goal rings there, so you know,
he missed downs wide open late when they had to
(11:14):
settle for a field goal. He looked like he was
starting to scramble and then he got sacked there, so.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Just didn't have his eyes, you know, in the right pace.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
And again, I think it's a mix of things right now.
It's you know, are some of the drops just two
big you know, and I'm talking about his own footwork drops,
you know, seven step drops. I go back to the
interception in Pittsburgh. You know it's a first down shot
to Pierce. Is that drop a little bit too greedy
knowing that t J. Watt's going to be one on one?
Or is it a hey, you got to know that
wats one on one. Your eyes have got to get
(11:43):
off Pierce a little bit earlier and get to Warren.
Is the check down on that? You know, it's kind
of wild if you look at his turnover numbers, Eddie,
because you know you got fumble luck in that game. Again,
I think you were plus three and the fumble luck
against Falcons. Yeah, if you look at his sheer fumble
and interceptions, I want to say Tua is the only
quarterback in the league that has more right now, mm hmm.
(12:06):
That's kind of wild to me. Like if you walked
up to the random person right now, they'd say, Daniel
Jones is playing pretty good football. Yeah, and yet his
interceptions and fumbles are the second most of anybody in
the league. Yeah, which is again, it's crazy. Now. I
think part of it is his other stuff has been
so good that it's kind of overshadowed. And again, a
lot of this is kind of a two week whatever,
(12:30):
bad bad two weeks. I guess it's the simplest way
to put it here. So you know, his own play,
it's probably a good, healthy bye week for him, of
just maybe not as much as in his head, but
you know, as much as bad as he had on
Saturday or on Sunday. You know, when you needed him,
you didn't put a ton on his plate, but he
delivered with the big scramble. I thought the ball placement
(12:53):
on the fourth and two is pretty impressive as well.
You know, if that ball's place anywhere else, I don't
know if Warren catches it or necessarily gets the first
down there, So obviously that would be a big story line.
Is more of these environments and more of these defenses,
you know, Spagnola, I think Houston's front is really really good.
You know, Seattle Jacksonville least has a couple of names
on their front. I know they aren't a great pressure
(13:14):
team or a great sack team, but those are just
some some things to watch.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
What'd you think overall the run defense without DeForest Buckner
to kind of bridge but we'll talk about after this.
They allow you know, what was it to Beijeon and
Algier one hundred and you know forty I think between
the two backs on twenty eight carries, so both those
touchdowns going to Tyler Algier and had me frustrated as
a Beejeon Robinson fantasy football owner.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
It is amazing Like watching that game, like I didn't
right off that game, it's kind of casually watched and
then went back and watching it for a second time.
It did strike me. I'm like, man, I feel like
Bijon does not get a lot of goal line carries.
I'm like, well, if you had them on a fantasy
football team, you would certainly.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Five yards of carry combined between the two backs.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah, it's definitely something to keep an eye on. You know,
I think the de tackle depth is proved, but still,
you know, the commitment, and I guess we should transition
into Buckner here, Eddie. Like I was talking to a
defensive coach the Culture playing a few weeks back, and
I was like, hey, what are your thoughts on the
Colts and basically just summarized it said simply, ninety nine makes.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
It all work. Yep.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
And it's simple statement, but it's I think quite the
amount of accurate praise for what DeForest Buckner does. And like,
you know, you wouldn't call the pass rush a strength
by any means, Let's call it a weakness. He is
your engine that keeps the pass rush a notch above
being on fumes in my opinion, because commands so many
(14:43):
double teams that without him, now where do those doubles go?
Do they exist? You know, do you feel a little
bit more cognizant about, Hey, we don't need necessarily have
a center and a guard there? So now, Isaia Franklin
grant it didn't work on Sunday, But the Sire Franklin
blitzing up the middle. Maybe it's not as dynamic necessarily
as it was on that play there. So you know,
(15:05):
he's always been high on the most indispensable list. I
you know, I went back and watched the Pittsburgh game.
You know, he goes in the blue tent Eddie late
in the first half. He was in there for a
few plays. He definitely was in some serious pain on
the sideline, but then he came back in finished the
first half and I think played about a normal amount
of snaps in the second half.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I was like, oh, no, not Grover. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I don't know if I said to you on well yeah,
when he went in there with the with a concussion,
I think I said you on Wednesday's pod. Like with
Buckner and injuries, we often chalk it up with like, oh,
it's Buckner, He's fine. Yeah, But if there are injuries
that worry me. When I see neck and I see bicep,
I'm always like, I feel like it never or like peck, Yeah,
(15:47):
I feel like you never just have a peck injury
for a week. No, you you tear the thing, yeah,
or like achilles, you know, I mean those are some
of these injuries when I see it, like three hundred
pounds dudes with a neck injury that really worries me.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
And like Buckner, what was that two years ago when
he was playing through the elbow?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Tommy John, Yeah, is what he would
have needed there for that, So I know, you know,
stich In is obviously I mean, hell, you could call
it line, you call it gamesman ship, pick whatever you want.
Clearly he likes to be very coy with the injuries
that don't occur during games so he doesn't have to
address them necessarily. So I think got played into it.
(16:27):
So yeah, I mean it's gonna be at least yeah,
right there, four games. Sorry I choked up there. It's
gonna be at least four games, and you know, I
think it definitely could be longer than that. So obviously
that'll be a huge storyline. You're curious to like, how
much do they know the severity of the Buckner injury
before the Gardener trade? You know, how much of any
that play into it. But you know, out of time,
(16:49):
a lot out of Barre has really stepped up. Neville Gallimore,
I think it earlier in the season, had a few
more moments, but you know, particularly on the rundowns. As
you mentioned, you're going to I think miss him. And
then obviously it's just unique to have a defensive tackle
that can play on pass downs as much as he
can and really command double teams. You know, Chris Jones
is obviously one of them. You're gonna see a week
(17:09):
from Sunday here. And you know, it seems like the
Colts have had a lot of interior offensive line opposing
injuries this season. Atlanta is one of those teams, and
you'd love to have Buckner kind of feasting feasting upon that.
So you know, when you get into playoff football and
you get in these one possession games, Eddie Buckner making
one third down play can be the difference. M hm.
(17:30):
So I do think it's a very notable loss for
however long it is.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I thought JC Touey Molilau had a solid game against
Atlanta too. I felt like I noticed him a little
bit getting getting towards Michael He had.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
A few more Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's worth
pointing out there. But again, you know, you look at
your d line production in that game too. You just
want more. You want more from that whole group. You know,
if you look at the line of scrimmage sort of production.
It typically is other guys making those sorts of plays,
So obviously continues to be a question that I have.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Oh, I can't believe we failed to mention this either, Kevin.
Before we get to Twitter questions, shout out to Zio Franklin.
We were talking about him a couple of weeks ago.
I think on the pod and you know, wondering if
you know he's starting, if there was like a decline there,
or if it was the system or whatever. Ten tackles,
a sacked two TFLs, and of course he had the
you know, a couple of big plays there in overtime
for the Colts.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah, those are huge plays in overtime. I thought it
was kind of a very soft penalty on Makai Blackman there,
and I thought to himself, oh boy, is this going
to start something, because you know, Pennis led a pretty
seamless drive there to end regulation to tie the game
up there. Do you think Atlanta should have taken the
time out, by the way, or should they have rushed
(18:41):
badly out there?
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I am in the camp of taking the time out
because then it gives you a chance on the other
side if he misses that kick, you've got some time
left to maybe get you know, a chunk play down
the field to set yourself up, you know, for a
field goal potentially. Yeah, I think I largely guess they
wouldn't have need the field goal, right.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yeah, no, it would have been tai game. Yeah, field
gold would have been for the win.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
My mom, it's like four days Agoers gave up one
hundred and fifty two points the other night, So my
mind is all over the place. I forgot win exactly
that happened in the game.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, So it's like twenty some seconds, twenty five seconds
when Rahie Moore sticks his time out. You know, I
can kind of hear both sides of Hmore has been
asked about that afterwards by the Atlanta media, you know,
badly having missed a couple of kicks already, you know,
could that have played into it? So it's just kind
of the interesting debate you get into those indie game situations.
I thought the clock management by both teams were a
little odd there in the first half.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
So, yeah, Atlanta not calling the time out when they
should have. At the end of the first half, I
was like, win in the world.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I about both sides. That's a misses there, so well's
you got anything else we'll top into. I think a
good amount of Twitter questions.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Oh yeah, we've got a ton of them. When we
will start with Connor. Connor was wondering Kevin what Carly
ors Gordon's interactions are like with the media, as she
seems like someone naturally suited given she seems like true
fan and has a lot of exposure to the game. However,
I've only seen very reserved and rarely exposed to the media.
(20:08):
What kind of relationship does you have with the media
and do you see that relationship changing in the future.
Highly recommend by the way. Reading Stephen Holder's piece on
Carli erc Gordon on ESPN dot com as well.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah, that was that was well done. Yeah, and I
think Joel if like I mentioned Joel Erickson as well,
he's had some features on all three of the Daughters
for the Star. I thought those are well done as well.
You know the little I don't want to act like
I know carl is super super well, but you know,
my interactions over the years with her, I've always thought
very curious, smart, I would say curious slash inquisitive, you know,
(20:45):
I I think, you know, just kind of a sponge,
which you know, I think when you get to people
with a the last name she has, or people the
positions in authority, I think it's really important to have
those sorts of qualities, particularly when you know, yes, she
was born in the business, but the daily grind of
running an NFL team is a lot different. And I
(21:06):
think you've got to be someone that you know is
willing to wear a lot of hats of just opening
your ears, and I think she's she clearly is a
fan of doing that. I mean, maybe a little bit
more reserved, certainly than her father, But I also think
there's a little bit of fire in there that maybe
she won't necessarily as outwardly as her dad will, but
(21:28):
you know that it's in there. You know, as far
as media is concerned, what we've talked to her once
in a group setting, mm hmm, and that was, you know,
right after her dad's passing. There so nothing at training
camp like her dad typically would do. We'll see what
the off season looks like. You know, for the most part,
an owner primarily speaks.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Then.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I thought Ballard might have talked after the Gardener trade.
I thought you know the Jets GM talked out was
kind of hoping he would, but he did not there.
So yeah, that's a little bit of Harley background if
you will.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
You know, of course, there was the the videos circulating
of her buying around for everybody.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
I saw that, Yeah in Berlin. Very smartly done there.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
By the way, that atmosphere seemed great on TV and everything.
I think I've told you Eddie, I'm I'm a fan
of the international games. I know a lot of people aren't.
And I get the Colts had to give up a
home game, but I like the thought of you give
up one home game every four years, you play an
international game every other year, and you give up a
home game once every four yeah, and you rotate it around.
(22:26):
So I think that would give you know, eight and
international games of the various sites. And I know we've got,
you know, in my interaction a just with international fans.
And again this comes from my experience at Wimbley now
nine years ago. I think it's such a cool atmosphere
(22:46):
and it's fun occasionally. I'm not saying you do it
weekly or you know, twice a month to go over
there and experience that. I think it's school for your
fan base, and the international market is real, and they're
passionate and they want to learn. The game is starting
to become a little bit more global. It's nothing like
the NBA, of course, but I'm totally good at it.
(23:07):
And I thought it brought some life, frankly, to an
NFL season that you know, not at times, but you
know occasionally you can get a tad redundant. I really
enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
While we're talking about Carly, there's not another question about this.
Did you see the Albert Breer post trade deadline story
that he did and it talked about the Colts in
the trade.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, a little bit of that, yeah, yea yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
And the quote that he got was from from Carli Orsay.
Gordon was like, are you going to band aid it
or fix it forever or whatever? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
She asked Chris Baward that that question.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Do you think that's her giving her like, Hey, let's
do this and stop being, you know, the old curmudgety
guy that you have been with valuing your pictu or whatever,
and go out and get a guy that's proven who
can actually help us win right now.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah. It's a great question because it was presented just
as a question and the piece I didn't think it
was in Mike Carli necessarily to say stop band aiding it.
It kind of reminded me a little bit of the
and we saw a video of this with the Colts
doing that with the Next Pick series when Jim Rsey
spoke up in the Zoom during the twenty twenty drafts
of saying haven't you guys talked about Jonathan Taylor a lot?
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Don't you really like him? And you know Ballard kind
of confirming that and being like, well, if you really
like him, then go up and get them. Yeah, and
they you know, and that trade was nothing like the
sauce gardener trade. That was just a Day three pick
to move up a few spots to get Taylor. So
like it again, this is my opinion. My opinion is
it's a huge part of Carli Ersay's job to ask questions,
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used to get the gears grind in a little bit
to think about that stuff. So you know, in a
way you can look at corner and yes, are they
trying to band aid it right now? With Xavian Howard
or maybe.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Mccli, Makai Blackman, Kaile Blackman, thank you or Taylor, the
guy from New Orleans Taylor.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah, whatever, like a little bit of that, But like
they also gave Traveri's Ward the most money they've given anybody. Yea,
and they they drafted Justin Wally in round three. So
I don't like to me at corner Ballard hasn't tempted
a good amount. Maybe the big free agent signing is
the one he hasn't done until this one, now, you know. Again,
Davor Rhodes and Stefan Gilmore were more of the short
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term here. But yeah, I guess I didn't read it
Eddie as like she was saying, Hey, it's time to
bandate it. But I think she might have thought to herself,
you know what, this is a premium position. It's a
position that we haven't had a lot of drafting success on.
If this opportunity does present itself and it doesn't grow
on trees, maybe this is the time, yeah, to try
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and put more of a serious bandage on it and
not just whatever on a on a bullet wound there.
So yeah, I thought it was an interesting little tidbit
that Albert shared.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
A position group that's kind of declined the last couple
of weeks along with Daniel Jones has been the offensive
and Jay would like to know what do you think
has been going on what the old line in the
past two weeks. Have teams just figured something out? Are
they wore out injuries? Just a big difference from almost
no sacks to thirteen in the last two games.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Yeah, it's a great question. I would say a little
bit of the edge pressure I think has mainly gotten
to the Colts more so than interior stuff, which is
not maybe what you'd expect given how the personnel is.
It continues to be a group that's incredibly healthy. Again,
nine of ten weeks of season, you've had the same
starting a line, and it's not like these guys have
been on the injury report any like. I know Brad
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Smith's missed an occasional Wednesday, but that's really it.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I do think you've played a little bit of better front.
So I know the Atlanta guys are less heralded, but
you know they'd spend a lot of draft capital into
Jalen Walker, into James Peers, and obviously the Pittsburgh guys
you still have some names. Granted I'm watching Sunday night
football thinking, man, the Pittsburgh dudes, you know, could erect
those chargers tackles a little bit more than the wreck
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the old Colts high paid guys there. So, and I'll
go back to what I said about Daniel Jones earlier
in the offenses or the defense that I should say,
you're you're about to play. You're about to face some
pretty good fronts and fronts that are going to be
pretty exotic as well. So I that, to me, I
think is just different. And you know, again with the
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Daniel Jones element to this, one of the biggest Jones
outliers through the first eight games was what he was
doing against pressure, Like that was the bugaboo in New York. Yeah,
when pressure gets to him, he wilts. And again you
can say that about a lot of quarterbacks, but his
was very noticeable through the first eight games, Eddie, when
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pressure got to him, he didn't will He would feast
frankly quite often. Was that the outlier? I think that's
probably the biggest question moving forward. It's like, you know,
there's a little bit of a level of Yes, the
on line has had some really sound games, but when
you're facing playoff caliber teams, there probably is going to
be some sort of whatever facts pressures, blitzeing, however you
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want to label it. What does Jones look like? Can
you do a better job of surviving to the next play,
making drives, end and kicks, finding checkdowns, you know those
sorts of things, scrambling when those opportunities do present itself.
I think that's going to be really critical for him
exit in the bye week.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah, We've got some other questions about Daniel Jones in
his pocket awareness slash president, so I'll hold off on
asking any more on that. Colton and AJ This is
in regards to Alec Pierce because yesterday I know some
of these questions were coming in before ESPN releases, But
Matt Bowen no relation to Kevin Bowen none, and Jeremy
Fawler to senior reporters with ESPN. They came out with
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their you know, top twenty five for the twenty twenty
six NFL free agency class, and three of the top
seven were Colts players Daniel Jones, Braden Smith and Alec
Pearce and in that order, we're on that list. And
would you resign Alec Pierce this offseason? If so, what
is the max you'd give him? That's the question from
Colton and AJ he's going to demand a lot of
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money and I don't know if the Colts have if
the Colts have that money, but he's looking to be
a favorite for Daniel Jones. And I connect the two
with this because Jeremy Fowler wrote in the piece that
don't be surprised if Alec Pierce gets twenty million a year.
And I just feel like Pierce has played his way
into more than twenty million a year based off the
fact that they're not just using him down the field
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anymore as this speed demon guy to get you know,
beyond the corner and pass the safeties, to stretch the
field and chuck it down there, you know, draw pis
or whatever, get a thirty year completion. We're seeing him
a lot more over the middle on drag routs. We're
seeing him a lot more on these outside breaking routes
towards the sideline. And not to mention, you saw it
in the eighty three yard touchdown play. His blocking in
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the run game is an underrated part of his game
that does not get talked about enough.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yeah, that is well said. You know, it's funny. We're
chatowing with Reggie Wayne last week about a variety of things.
And you know, we talked about Pierris Pierce. Someone mentioned
kind of the arrow going up on them, and you know, Reggie,
in the typical Reggie way, is like, that's not the
only thing going up. So this is his price tag.
You know, Reggie gets it, and specifically I think he
talks about that route tree. And you know, Eddie, remember
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at the start of the season, we got into a
little bit of this debate. I think it was right
around the Terry McLaurin news because Terry McLaurin and Michael
Pittman Junr Are following very similar contract situations. They opted
for the shorter second deal to hit free agency earlier
on the third contract. And I said to you, I go,
what would you rather do? Give Michael Pittman Junior a
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third contract or give Alec Pierce a second contract? And
I said Pierce for the second contract.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
I remember in training camp we were talking about which
receiver strikes more defense figure into a.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Defense exactly who's easier to replace? Yeah, And to me,
and again it's come from Pittman guy. Like I've long
appreciated Pittman for what he brings, but the easier to
replace is him not Pierce now a all accounts, both
dudes love Indie and you know, Pittman has made his
home here literally from a farm standpoint, And you know,
I do think Saut Garter and Alek Pierce are very
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very close. But yeah, it's just like this is probably
a bad analogy, and I shouldn't say it as a
father of two daughters, but like Alec Pierce is like
he's a smart girl that's now gotten hot too, or
he's the hot girl that's now.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Smart, probably the other way around.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
But yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, because the strait was,
you know, he was always hot because he could always
go deep. But now he's rounded about a little bit more.
So again, you know, what do you do? You do
you tag Pierce? I you and I were discussing this
before the show, Eddie. You know, the old twenty million tag. Frankly,
I think it was twenty million before this year. I
think I'd said to you the Colts turned down a
team offering a second round pick for him, you know,
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can you imagine? And that was pre start of the season.
So and then you know, if Jonathan Taylor keeps us up,
Malki Kawa ain't gonna be quiet this offseason. Nope, you
know that Taylor's agent's going to be chiming in here
as well. Son. I'd go back to something about Pierce,
like when when when you watch a TV copy of
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games and you see Daniel Jones on cork one mm hm.
I just think to myself, if that announcer says and
he's got Pierce DP, it's like watching Halliburton shoot a
game winner in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
It's like, you know what's going in. Yeah, you know
Pierce is catching it, uh huh penalty of the Yeah,
there's just like no doubting that. And honestly, more of
the question is Jones getting it on target. Frankly on
that So I don't know, Eddie.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
I would probably rank it like this, Jones and Pierce
won one A and then I think it's a big
drop to Bradon Smith and the Cross m h. I
think it's very difficult to pay a second safety the
amount of money you're you have to pay a Necross YEP.
I get there's really nobody behind him. Whereas Jalen Travis,
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it's I think it's Jalen Travis more than Gonsalves. I
think consolves interesting guard moving forward here. So that's how
I would view it now. Again, financially, you probably could
squeeze Braden and ordinate Cross in if you would like to.
And you know who knows where Braiden's at from a
family standpoint, you know, third contract all that. But yeah,
that's how I probably view.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Just kind of looking at you know, average you know,
contracts or receivers. Two that stuck out to me when
I was looking at this Jamison Williams for Detroit twenty
six point six sixty six million a year, uh, Courtland
Sutton twenty three a year, Calvin Ridley twenty three a year,
Michael Pittman Junior twenty three point three three three repeating,
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and Nico Collins for Houston twenty four and a quarter.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah. I mean those are some impressive names you just
laid out there north of twenty. But obviously the cap
continues to go up.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
The Jamison Williams one is the one that I would
probably look at the most.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
And I just keep on going back to this Eddie.
He has the specialists trait. Yeah, And I say that
for a reason there, like he's got the unique element.
I don't know what I could compare it to in
a different sport. I had to, like, whatever the rare
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picture out of the bullpen that has just a special
pitch that you think.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Is Mariano Rivera's cutter, super effective.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Sure, it's just that element to him of it's hard
to create a lot of deep chunk plays in the NFL. Yeah,
that's just how defenses are largely playing it. And when
you have a guy with whatever the volleyball background that
he has and his ability to high point in come
down with it, I mean he didn't. I'll never forget
him playing Notre Dame in IU in that final season Cincinnati,
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and you know he lost some dudes in those games.
So boy, it's gonna be quite the quite the payday
for him and we'll see you know all again it
is Is Pittman going to be a.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Casually Yeah, that is a fascinating one to monitor this offseason.
Pittman obviously would have to be a casualty in my opinion,
just for you know, if you wanted to bring back
Nick Cross. But that's just how I feel about it.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, and you know you might have to do some
of that juggling and then you know, again, where does
Louis Roumo come in to play with all this? Is
there more defensive personnel that he feels like needs to
be tweaked or changed? You know what's a future out linebacker?
M hm, Yeah, that's one that again doesn't seem like
it's a huge priority, but still you can't totally totally
ignore it.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Still, five Twitter questions left Walter looking at two games.
The last two games with Daniel Jones is looking more affordable.
What the Cults can't do is what the Giants did
and overpay him. When the overpay him then hurt their
chances to sign other key players. Ball security is a
big question with him, and he is showing more of
the Giants' traits that got him released. JT definitely should
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be the MVP, and the success Dane Jones has had
is due to Jonathan Taylor running through the league.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Boy, I had to laugh when you said the word affordable.
Affordable and quarterback in the same sentence makes me laugh.
I know, yeah, I don't think that's the word I
would ever use. I understand where Walter is coming from. Eddie.
This is the slippery slope. Who are you paying for?
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Are you paying for? Tannehill? Are you paying for Daniel
Jones Giants or are you paying for Baker? You know,
Seattle is a fascinating example of it this past offseason
letting Gina walk for Darnold, and by all accounts right now,
it looks like a definite upgrade. Like to me, I
don't think the Minnesota. You know, people people keep on
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bringing up Minnesota. If I'm not mistaken, I think of
Minnesota might have offered Daniel Jones more than Indy. I'm
pretty sure that is true. But like I understand where
Minnesota was, Like, you drafted JJ McCarthy, they traded up,
are they not for JJ McCarthy? They drafted him what
eleven overall? Twelve overall somewhere around there. Yeah, and you
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know he wasn't some project, like you don't draft him
and not give him the keys at some point here,
you know, could they have waited I guess another year
maybe they could have. But again, Darnold probably won of
multiple years at that point. So you know, this is
going to be really really interesting. And like if this
level of let's say Jones, let's say if the first
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eight games, Eddie in the last two games, Let's say
if those two had a baby, and that's the Daniel
Jones we see the rest of the season.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Now we learned from Max bow And that the baby
goes in the belly, right.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Well that and if you're in the car with kids,
maybe you want to turn it down. But I do
have to share this from Max Bowing here from a
couple of days back, instead of Max, Hey, you want
to change Nelly? And you know he's intrigued, sure, yeah,
oh yeah. And you know Max has been super sweet,
and then he gets a dinosaur in his hand and
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he gets close to Nellie and he turns into Bontees Burfett.
He's just head hunting and I'm like, Max, we can't
have it. So anyways, he comes and change, you know,
helps me change her, and you know, I take off
her diaper and get ready to you know, put a
new diaper, and certainly she has gone number two here
in this diaper, and all of a sudden, Max Bowen
just just yells out at Daddy, what is that? Look
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at her penis? And I'm like, gosh. And so, you know,
anatomy for a three year old probably not necessarily the
most up to date, but.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
He was birds in the convo.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
He was confusing her umbilical cord, which you know is
still there. It was there until she had a blow
out last night, and then it finally came off. You know,
you know, the umbilical cord kind of hangs in there
for for a few days pos post delivery, and he
was very confused about that element two words there. So yeah,
I have no idea where I was going with that,
Max Beellen, why did you bring him up?
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Oh? Because you remember he filled in for me that
went pot goes. Yeah, I was in mommy's belly, right.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Yes, he's quite a lot, he said Falcons on the pod,
but he went with Colts on the helmet day, so
he got back to his twenty ways.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Oh that's great, let's get back into the Twitter questions. Tank.
Daniel Jones definitely holds onto the football way too long,
especially when defenses send pressure. I feel like that's part
of the reason why he keeps getting strip sacked. Are
there counter blitz is that stiking can install into our
game plan to prevent these disaster plays. I feel like
your read option plays could be one way to counter
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the blitz. Another thing that I would say is just
the fact that he's just standing in the pocket too long.
He doesn't really. I understand he's trying to get away
from the narrative about him being a running quarterback first,
but step up in the pocket or trying to extend
the play a little bit.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Yeah, it goes back to what I was saying about
that Pittsburgh play on the shot to Pierce that he
wanted on the first down. You know, is there an
element and again this I think Steichen Anne Jones both
collaborating here, is there an element of when you draw
this play up on a Tuesday, you're saying to him, Hey,
on this play, we're leaving Braden Smith one on one
with TJ.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Watt.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
You either have to anticipate that deep ball to pearce
at two point one in your head, and if you
get to two and a half, that ball's got to
be the number eighty four in the checkdown that I think.
You know, I'm fine with drawing up some concerted seven
step drops, you know, I always I feel that way
about Notre Dame football.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Right now. CJ.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Carr is such a great deep ball thrower. You have
got to have him dialing. I would say one to
two deep balls every quarter. But when you do that
make sure that your tackles either he knows they're on
an island or they're not on an island. And you know,
you obviously want to deploy x amount of people out
on a route tree to you know, help out from
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a checkdown standpoint, and so I think that is part
of it. I don't think maybe he's found as many checkdowns.
It seems like the Jonathan tam the little dumps haven't
been maybe as abundant or in general, where are those
hot and like it's hard to you know, when you're
taking a seven step drop, the old hot read is
probably gonna be a little different. So again, can you
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find some of those hots a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
The Taylor checkdown aspect, just because they're asking him to
chip more and be in more pass protection.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
Yeah, yeah, that could be part of it as well.
But you know, those legs have been a weapon. And
again it's not legs from a Reid option standpoint, it's
legs from a you know, scramble standpoint.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
So that has been very good of it. How many
times have you said those legs have been a weapon?
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Yeah? Probably a lot, But I that was I mean
without them, they don't win. I mean that third and
twenty one.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
I mean, even if you only gets ten there, how
many different things can you apply that to? Those legs
have been a weapon? Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
It certainly has not been a PG pod today. This
is one of my half assed brain podcasts of all
time there, So I'm just trying to fight through it
and get back home.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Rat would like Dannel, has the fan base realized that
we're on a collision course for another Colts Patriots AFC championship.
Not going to count chickens before they hatch. But I
much prefer playing the Chiefs and the Patriots and playoff football.
How about this, haven't they played each of like the
last four years and this is the one year that
they haven't played each other and they're both good again?
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Colts Patriots? Yeah yeah, I think you're right. Yeah yeah,
I And now we're getting in the old chief stat
of like Patrick Mahomes has never beat the Colts to
two in the regular season, right, I did beat them
in a in the playoffs there. I do think Drake
may is good. I don't know if I don't think
the Chiefs. Excuse me, I don't think the Patriots are
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eight and two good? But I do think Drake May
is good. I would rather play the Patriots and the
Chiefs though, Yeah, I mean I'm a big believer in
playoffs stepping stones, Yeah, and like playoff experience matters. Took
Peyton Manning six years to win a game in the playoffs,
took him what nine years to win a Super Bowl?
Andrew Luck had the progression of three years appearance when
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Road win. It is pretty wild when you look at
the standings, Eddie, Like, Jacksonville to me is on life support.
I just don't see them hanging in there. Maybe their
schedule will help them out, but I think that collapse
on Sunday was Travis Hunter out for the year. Like
to me, it just I don't think Jacksonville will be there.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
But in versely, Houston seems to be ascending.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Yeah, but they got a long way to go. They
got a small margin for air and it could be
another week of Davis Mills so and I know they
got Tennessee. But still you very well, which would be wild.
We could get to January and the three Road wild
card quarterbacks Mahomes, Allen and Herbert Wild. You imagine what
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the Vegas lines would look like with those three on
the road, and that's why it's so critical to get
the one seat, you know, to be the Colts and
not be the Patriots. Or tonight, if you're listening to this,
we're recording late Thursday morning. J E t s it up.
You want the Jets to beat the Patriots. And you know,
we got a little bit of this debate on our
morning show.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Just don't drop the ball?
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Uh yeah, eighty Mitchell plus one thousand, I see to.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Score touchdown, I believe. So this game, we got a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Of the debate of Denver Kansas City a Sunday, who
would you rather have win? And I am of the
thinking of you want the one seed, so you want
Kansas City to beat Denver. But then there's a little
bit of thinking of do you just want to try
and bury Kansas City? Yeah, which it's a good counter thought.
I don't think I'm there, but I can kind of
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hear people out on that.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah, because right now, what Kansas City five and four
there because they're technically.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
The eight, right they're they're they're outside of Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Yeah, and you would have to assume one of Cincinnati
or Baltimore is going to ascend into that conversation as well.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Boy, I'll go back Eddie to a conversation we had
Wednesday before the Falcons game. Like to me, I think
I called it like a heightened urgency. You know, it's
one of these games, and I think, you know, it's
an NFC game in the middle of the sea. On paper,
it doesn't feel like it's a big game. To me,
that was such a crucial win because you know, and
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just look at the sequence of those two games at
the AFC South Yeah, if Atlanta bats down fourth and
two and Davis Mills doesn't scramble for his life, now
all of a sudden, you're looking at what three loss
Indie and three loss Jacksonville going into the by and
you still face Jacksonville twice. Like the AFC South By record,
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the Colts have a very nice lead, but the fact
that they haven't played Jacksonville Houston leaves the door open.
Now again, I expect Indy to close it. But mathematically,
if Jacksonville worked to sweep you, now, all of a sudden,
the division turns into probably a little bit of favorite
to Jacksonville. Yeah, just mathematically had a head tiebreaker. All that.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Ben would like to know if the Colts can put
Ashton Dollan back there to return punts. Josh Dowens is
talented and has game breaking ability, but he has a
turnover waiting to happen. We saw it two weeks ago
and it almost happened again against the Falcons. He didn't
track the ball well in the air.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Yeah, he does have a little bit of that.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
To him now.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Isn't it always funny how the most dynamic punt returners
have a little bit of that to them almost you
know the ball and I'm thinking of Josh Cribs fumbling
on the It's the title game after the Colts gotten
early stop against New England and the flight gate took
on a whole different meaning from there, so it yeah,
I hear you out on it. Yeah, Doolan, I don't.
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I can't even recall Dulan field in too many punts,
even during training camp. It always seems like it's just
a small white out that's back there doing it. So,
I don't know, Goold seems to be fine. You know,
you would think Downs would be just so secure based
off how he uses as a white out there, But
he definitely has told the line. But then when he
gets his hands on it huge place. And again I'll
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go back and said earlier man Abdullah on those returns.
I mean, I assume the Colts would have gotten into
badsy field goal range. Again, but any boy Abdullah getting
that return like he did, you probably removed yourself from
another two to three pass rush situations. Yeah, and giving
out your line and Daniel Jones were holding up. That
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might have been the difference in the game.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Yeah. Final Twitter question is from Joel. Now that Sauce
Gardner trade has happened, it seems apparent that Daniel Jones
is going to be the guy moving forward. Joel's question
is did the Colts show their hand by not extending
Jones before the trade deadline? But another way, will Jones
come at a higher price now that his agent knows
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the Colts now lack the resources to draft the top
tier quarterback for the next two years at least, or
was it too soon to get a deal done with
Jones not criticizing the trade, I am a fan of it.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Yeah, that's Joel. It's that's probably one way to look
at I think that's a good point. Now we should
mention you do have the franchise tag, you know, Eddie.
I'd like to think this a an agent is an agent.
They're going to try and get the most money. I
understand how that works, and that's their job. I also
would like to think, in a quiet moment between agent
and Daniel Jones, where they're not speaking to the colts
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and the colts aren't listening, they would like to say,
Daniel Jones, A would like to say, you know what,
this indie situation has worked out great?
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
I love Shane Saikam, Jonathan Taylor, I love the tin roof,
I love going the NY five hundred and having a
drink or two. I enjoy my life here and I
enjoy playing football here, and that, to me easy for
me to say is worth a couple million less than
going to play in New Orleans, yeah, or wherever. So again,
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I know that sounds mary, and it's easy for me,
as someone that has never seen commas like Daniel Jones
and will never sniff commas like Daniel Jones in his life,
to sit here and say, but I'd like to think
that's in the corner now. Again, it's a dangerous game
to play. You talking about the podcast, Oh very good, Gosh,
my brain is so Fried today like that. That didn't
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even register to me.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Nice job.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
So yeah, I guess the Colts showed their hand a
little bit. But you know, you can only acquire quarterbacks
in so many ways. How Jones plays the rest of
the year, Eddie really interesting.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
It'll be really interesting to see how the Anthony Richardson
play out in Downfall this too, because obviously you've committed
to Jones with the.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
Two trading in the air. I mean, does Richardson put
on a Colt's uniform in the rest of the year.
I guess he's eligible to come off, ir right, isn't
he after the bye?
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (49:43):
I almus tell me that that I was, and that
I was like very close to being essentially gone. It
was like that close.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Wow. Yeah, So, I mean.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
I hope I can't. And again we're only out there
for the first twenty I don't know if I've seen
him at a Colts practice yet. Have you seen him
on the sidelines? I don't think so, Yeah, I don't.
I've been thinking I'm actively looking, right, but you would
think the camera would show him.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Yeah, is there?
Speaker 1 (50:14):
So hopefully everything's good on that end, all right, Eddie,
you got anything else?
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Man? Do you have anything more than do we have
any other inappropriate stuff to talk about? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (50:22):
Do you have to put the E on this?
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Capitally the explicit.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
He is Eddie Garrison, I'm Kevin Bow and everybody have
a great, great weekend and we'll be back next Wednesday.
Colts Corner, Kevin Bow and Colts in Chiefs in Week twelve.
All right, we are back. It is Colt's Corner with myself,
Kevin Bowen and Eddie Garrison as the Colts are on
their bye week, so we'll still with this pod this week.
Next week we'll probably go with you Wednesday afternoon. That way,
at least get an injury report on Colts Chiefs as
one of the more anticipated games certainly of the regular
season is here. Eddie Garrison, good morning to you.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good morning, congratulations, welcome Nelly Bowen to the world. Thank you,
congratulations to you. And nice job by Maddie Bowen by
powering through it all.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Boy, that is an understatement to say that, so yeah,
very thank you just for that, Eddie, and all of
our nurses doctors just rather wild frankly watching how seamless
they can make it work or look, I should say,
and Maddie an absolute rock star there. So yes, little
Nelly into the world on Friday. Appreciate everybody has reached
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out with some nice messages. And I never thought I'd
be watching morning international coffee football holding my daughter from
the huh spittal, but nonetheless that's where I was Sunday morning.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Nelly, a much better welcome to Notre Dame football than
Max Spillin.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Right when Navy scored to tie the game at seven,
I thought to myself, oh is this happening again. But
then when Notre Dame rattled off whatever it was forty
two or something in around after that or forty two
to three the rest of the way, I was very
very happy. I did the push ups with her in
the room, Eddie, you know, kind of held her.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Up to the uh huh I saw. I saw the
video from Maddi.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
It's sold nervous if Maddy thought that would be a
good thing or not, but she actually laughed at that,
So I was very grateful for her support. With the Irish. Yeah,
I mean you talk about wild football, I mean literally
in that hotel. But by the way, having a fall
baby very underrated. This is my first fall baby. I
was reminded, well, at some point you're gonna have birthday
parties or around that, so it might not be great.
But from waking up at the start of the final
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Indiana drive, literally woke up at the start of that
drive from a little nap, and then to watch Notre
Dame of course, and then to watch Colts Falcons and
Jonathan Taylor doing Jonathan Taylor things that was I was
quite the So today's pot, Eddie, I do want to
look a little bit back on that Falcons game and
just kind of go over a few items. We don't
have to get into the full what I liked, what
I didn't like, a little bit of diforce Buckner news
(02:11):
is that item broke after our pod last week, and
then a lot of Twitter questions, a lot of kind
of big picture bye week stuff what you would typically
find there. So we'll do that.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Let's dive into that win for the Colts on the
road in Berlin right before the bye week. Kevin, we've
had some time, mainly you have had some time to
kind of stew on it and kind of formulate your thoughts.
So overall, what do you think of the Colts being
able to a you know, Jonathan Taylor to will them
to victory, especially late in regulation and a couple of
nice throws from Daniel Jones there in overtime as well,
(02:43):
and Taylor able to finish off the Falcons.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Boy, what a Heisman moment, if you will, What an
MVP moment from Taylor And you know, again it's some
combination of his patience, his ability to rev it up
zero to sixty quickly in the open field. And you
know what, Eddie, that the run itself there in regulation,
(03:07):
you know, I think kind of largely speaks for itself.
But like his ability to make Billy Bowman miss in
the backfield in overtime and then do it to Jesse
Bates in the game winner. Like how many times you
see running back successfully do that? Let alone at two
hundred and whatever, he is twenty some pounds. And I
go back to that Denver play earlier this season. You know,
(03:28):
in the backfield, look like a tackle for loss. He
rips it off down that right sideline for sixty years.
So and think about all these plays he's had this
season now, obviously the play in Berlin, the Denver run.
I thought one of his best runs of the year
was the Ady Mitchell holding penalty against the Rams. I mean,
that was an incredible run.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Here.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
So's that bird poop on my hat? I don't know,
I'm so nervous. Let me see just poop everywhere these days?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Let me see it.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Oh, I think it's toothpaste now that I think about it.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Are we sure that's toothpaste? Kevin?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah, Yeah, there's tasted a minty flavor.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
There, Okay, I'm glad it was meant not salty. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Cool, there, man, you got some issues here on this
Thursday morning.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I do you have issues? You know?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
That play from Taylor, it's just those players I think
in overtime, honestly, might even be just more into the
individually impressive. It almost was like on the eighty yard
or obviously he reps it up, but you know there's
a lot of give up there from the Atlanta Falcons
on that play, but you know it was needed. And
you know, I always feel this way about these sorts
of wins. Eddie, like you can look at him in
(04:31):
two lights, two lights, and maybe some people look at
the Indiana win over Penn State in a similar light,
like do you look at it from a a wins
a win championship resolve? Everyone has these games? Or is
it m even in a when you can't ignore the questions?
You know, like Indiana is a big favorite over Penn State.
(04:53):
You know in NFL terms, the Culture are a big
favorite over the Atlanta Falcons, and you know you need
you literally have what probably three plays where the game
could have ended, like the fourth and two the misfield.
You know, if miss deftfield, I thought one of the
bigger Daniel Jones plays, and you obviously mentioned the two
throws was a scramble on third and twenty one. I
thought at third and twenty one time, my thought was
(05:15):
you take two shots to out Pierce just period. Yeah, Like,
when's the last time Pierce has been thrown an on
target deep ball and he hasn't come down with it?
That's true, He comes down with all of them, and
if he doesn't, he gets a flag. Yeah, Like, it's
amazing how great of a weapon he is now Again,
(05:35):
the key is obviously on target there. That was certainly
a big play early on, you know, Warren, you know,
having the you know, I was curious if they would
have called that a fumble on the field, would they've
overturned that to start the drive? But the fourth and
two just a big play and then obviously the little
Saale corner rout everyone to describe it there and overtime
(05:57):
was huge. So that was a pretty throw too. Yeah,
that was one of the best throws we've seen. Those
returns by a Mirra Abdullah were huge and even dueling there.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
They say and have special teams was much different. Special
teams a roller coaster. Yeah, you know, that was an
absolute roller coaster. So, you know, a couple other items. Defensively,
I don't know if fine. Like I thought, for the
most part, the defense did a nice job. But then
at the end of the day, it's like, well, you
gave up the second most points the Falcons have scored
(06:27):
all year. I mean, Alanta has been bad offensively many Yeah,
ten or less than four of their eight games had
been Sunday, Like, you know, for that much star power,
you know, I thought you caused some Pinnix issues.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
But he also I thought just missed some wide open dudes. Yep,
NFL open dudes as well. You know, Gardener, I thought,
for the most part was was pretty good considering all
the expectations. Obviously, the two point conversion, you know, is
a play he'd liked to have back of the said
he slipped on that play.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I bet you we'd like to have the Drake London
touchdown back as well.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, the one with Jermaine Pratt. Yeah, yeah, that was
kind of a it seemed like kind of the issues
of the mix ups with Gardner were mainly zone related. Yeah,
you know, just a little bit of unsure yeah, because
Kurt Warner.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Did a good job on the telecast highlighting and he goes,
you know, Sauce Gardner has you know, on on the
screen the right side of the field. For him, it's
the left side of the field. So and he just
got distracted by the eyes of Pennix looking at Kyle Pitts.
So he took Kyle Pitts and it left that back
right zone wide open for Drake London and the only
person there to take him was Jermaine Pratt.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
So I think you saw. And we'll get into the
deforce Buckner situation here in just a second. But like
the cam buying them play, to me is a little
Sauce Gardner presence. You're taking your deep field free safety
and you're blissing them off the edge. And again, I
think there was some comfortability and trust, and that's pre
you know, Mooney Ward, I'm worried about Michael Badgley. I
(07:52):
think I've been worried about it pretty much the whole time.
You know, when you miss another extra point, two extra
points missed in five games. I had to go back
twenty twenty one, the last time the Colts missed two
extra points, you know, Matt Gave didn't miss a single one.
Last year he missed one, and twenty three, twenty twenty two,
the Colts miss an extra point. So it's kind of
crazy how rare it is. And I think I told
(08:13):
you this, and I'll not forget watching Badgeley's first practice
out there, and it was a pretty nice day out
there at fifty sixth Street. And when he came up
short on at least one, if not two field goals
a practice, I thought it myself, Man, you don't see
NFL kickers coming.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Up short, especially at fifty three.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Right, And like, think about the fourth and two, Eddie.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Those are almost missed automatic.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Now, the fourth and two would have been a fifty
eight yarder, I believe.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Are you talking about like in the opening drive.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
No, the fourth and two to Tyler Warren there, okay,
lighton regulation, that would have been a fifty eight yarder.
I mean, how many NFL teams would have just attempted
the field goal?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Then that would have been a forty five yard on
the first drive when they turned it over down.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, which again I'm not you know, knowing psyching, I'm
not too shocked by that. But but the final drive,
you know, instead of attempting the forty four yarder, Yeah,
it would have been fifty eight there. I mean, I
don't know, maybe eighty percent of NFL team is probably
attempt the field goal. Then, yeah, you don't get a
lot of them actually attempting the field goal or you know,
trying to go for it and get further yards. And
(09:16):
a sneaky little play was pitting then right before the
field goal. You know, you got what ten or twelve
there right before the forty four yard er, and that
was obviously a huge, huge play as well. So you know,
those were I think in general just kind of my
thoughts on the game. I guess we got to talk
a little Daniel Jones again. I thought the third and
twenty one scramble was just huge, and I do think
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it's the most leg element game we've seen from Jones.
And I do think that's an area that you can
continue to tap into because you have to pick your
poison with his offense, and you know, if you're gonna
bring some pressure and play man, you know, Jones certainly
has that ability to do that. I mean, it is
kind of wild of like, you know, how do you
view Jones exiting the bye week yep, is this regression
(10:01):
to the mean, you know, the whole baseball card analogy, Eddie.
He really defied the back of his own baseball card
through the first eight games. Is that him? Is this
the new Daniel Jones and like it was just a
hiccup or two these last two weeks or is he
getting back to the baseball card now again? I do
(10:21):
think I know I've joked about this. I have half joked,
half serious. We're almost in the air of Chris Ballard.
Where we go, you know, pre CB and ACB, you know,
the old pre Chris Ballard and now the after Chris
Ballard has decided to you know, do things differently in
his operating you know, is that there for Daniel Jones
and a Shane Staken offense. Is that they're you know,
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for him in a Colts uniform period there? So you know,
I know I've said this before, but the whole Peyton
Manning adage of you know a huge part of being
a quarterback is don't make.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
A bad play worse.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
And right now when the bad plays have shown up,
he's starting to make them worse. Whether it's not finding
it the checkdowns, whether it's just holding onto the football period.
You know, I thought that I thought the fumble on
that third quarter screen was just that was egregious, you know,
when you're in field goal rings there, so you know,
he missed downs wide open late when they had to
(11:14):
settle for a field goal. He looked like he was
starting to scramble and then he got sacked there, so.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Just didn't have his eyes, you know, in the right pace.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
And again, I think it's a mix of things right now.
It's you know, are some of the drops just two
big you know, and I'm talking about his own footwork drops,
you know, seven step drops. I go back to the
interception in Pittsburgh. You know it's a first down shot
to Pierce. Is that drop a little bit too greedy
knowing that t J. Watt's going to be one on one?
Or is it a hey, you got to know that
wats one on one. Your eyes have got to get
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off Pierce a little bit earlier and get to Warren.
Is the check down on that? You know, it's kind
of wild if you look at his turnover numbers, Eddie,
because you know you got fumble luck in that game. Again,
I think you were plus three and the fumble luck
against Falcons. Yeah, if you look at his sheer fumble
and interceptions, I want to say Tua is the only
quarterback in the league that has more right now, mm hmm.
(12:06):
That's kind of wild to me. Like if you walked
up to the random person right now, they'd say, Daniel
Jones is playing pretty good football. Yeah, and yet his
interceptions and fumbles are the second most of anybody in
the league. Yeah, which is again, it's crazy. Now. I
think part of it is his other stuff has been
so good that it's kind of overshadowed. And again, a
lot of this is kind of a two week whatever,
(12:30):
bad bad two weeks. I guess it's the simplest way
to put it here. So you know, his own play,
it's probably a good, healthy bye week for him, of
just maybe not as much as in his head, but
you know, as much as bad as he had on
Saturday or on Sunday. You know, when you needed him,
you didn't put a ton on his plate, but he
delivered with the big scramble. I thought the ball placement
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on the fourth and two is pretty impressive as well.
You know, if that ball's place anywhere else, I don't
know if Warren catches it or necessarily gets the first
down there, So obviously that would be a big story line.
Is more of these environments and more of these defenses,
you know, Spagnola, I think Houston's front is really really good.
You know, Seattle Jacksonville least has a couple of names
on their front. I know they aren't a great pressure
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team or a great sack team, but those are just
some some things to watch.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
What'd you think overall the run defense without DeForest Buckner
to kind of bridge but we'll talk about after this.
They allow you know, what was it to Beijeon and
Algier one hundred and you know forty I think between
the two backs on twenty eight carries, so both those
touchdowns going to Tyler Algier and had me frustrated as
a Beejeon Robinson fantasy football owner.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
It is amazing Like watching that game, like I didn't
right off that game, it's kind of casually watched and
then went back and watching it for a second time.
It did strike me. I'm like, man, I feel like
Bijon does not get a lot of goal line carries.
I'm like, well, if you had them on a fantasy
football team, you would certainly.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Five yards of carry combined between the two backs.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah, it's definitely something to keep an eye on. You know,
I think the de tackle depth is proved, but still,
you know, the commitment, and I guess we should transition
into Buckner here, Eddie. Like I was talking to a
defensive coach the Culture playing a few weeks back, and
I was like, hey, what are your thoughts on the
Colts and basically just summarized it said simply, ninety nine makes.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
It all work. Yep.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
And it's simple statement, but it's I think quite the
amount of accurate praise for what DeForest Buckner does. And like,
you know, you wouldn't call the pass rush a strength
by any means, Let's call it a weakness. He is
your engine that keeps the pass rush a notch above
being on fumes in my opinion, because commands so many
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double teams that without him, now where do those doubles go?
Do they exist? You know, do you feel a little
bit more cognizant about, Hey, we don't need necessarily have
a center and a guard there? So now, Isaia Franklin
grant it didn't work on Sunday, But the Sire Franklin
blitzing up the middle. Maybe it's not as dynamic necessarily
as it was on that play there. So you know,
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he's always been high on the most indispensable list. I
you know, I went back and watched the Pittsburgh game.
You know, he goes in the blue tent Eddie late
in the first half. He was in there for a
few plays. He definitely was in some serious pain on
the sideline, but then he came back in finished the
first half and I think played about a normal amount
of snaps in the second half.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I was like, oh, no, not Grover. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I don't know if I said to you on well yeah,
when he went in there with the with a concussion,
I think I said you on Wednesday's pod. Like with
Buckner and injuries, we often chalk it up with like, oh,
it's Buckner, He's fine. Yeah, But if there are injuries
that worry me. When I see neck and I see bicep,
I'm always like, I feel like it never or like peck, Yeah,
(15:47):
I feel like you never just have a peck injury
for a week. No, you you tear the thing, yeah,
or like achilles, you know, I mean those are some
of these injuries when I see it, like three hundred
pounds dudes with a neck injury that really worries me.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
And like Buckner, what was that two years ago when
he was playing through the elbow?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Tommy John, Yeah, is what he would
have needed there for that, So I know, you know,
stich In is obviously I mean, hell, you could call
it line, you call it gamesman ship, pick whatever you want.
Clearly he likes to be very coy with the injuries
that don't occur during games so he doesn't have to
address them necessarily. So I think got played into it.
(16:27):
So yeah, I mean it's gonna be at least yeah,
right there, four games. Sorry I choked up there. It's
gonna be at least four games, and you know, I
think it definitely could be longer than that. So obviously
that'll be a huge storyline. You're curious to like, how
much do they know the severity of the Buckner injury
before the Gardener trade? You know, how much of any
that play into it. But you know, out of time,
(16:49):
a lot out of Barre has really stepped up. Neville Gallimore,
I think it earlier in the season, had a few
more moments, but you know, particularly on the rundowns. As
you mentioned, you're going to I think miss him. And
then obviously it's just unique to have a defensive tackle
that can play on pass downs as much as he
can and really command double teams. You know, Chris Jones
is obviously one of them. You're gonna see a week
(17:09):
from Sunday here. And you know, it seems like the
Colts have had a lot of interior offensive line opposing
injuries this season. Atlanta is one of those teams, and
you'd love to have Buckner kind of feasting feasting upon that.
So you know, when you get into playoff football and
you get in these one possession games, Eddie Buckner making
one third down play can be the difference. M hm.
(17:30):
So I do think it's a very notable loss for
however long it is.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I thought JC Touey Molilau had a solid game against
Atlanta too. I felt like I noticed him a little
bit getting getting towards Michael He had.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
A few more Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's worth
pointing out there. But again, you know, you look at
your d line production in that game too. You just
want more. You want more from that whole group. You know,
if you look at the line of scrimmage sort of production.
It typically is other guys making those sorts of plays,
So obviously continues to be a question that I have.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Oh, I can't believe we failed to mention this either, Kevin.
Before we get to Twitter questions, shout out to Zio Franklin.
We were talking about him a couple of weeks ago.
I think on the pod and you know, wondering if
you know he's starting, if there was like a decline there,
or if it was the system or whatever. Ten tackles,
a sacked two TFLs, and of course he had the
you know, a couple of big plays there in overtime
for the Colts.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah, those are huge plays in overtime. I thought it
was kind of a very soft penalty on Makai Blackman there,
and I thought to himself, oh boy, is this going
to start something, because you know, Pennis led a pretty
seamless drive there to end regulation to tie the game
up there. Do you think Atlanta should have taken the
time out, by the way, or should they have rushed
(18:41):
badly out there?
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I am in the camp of taking the time out
because then it gives you a chance on the other
side if he misses that kick, you've got some time
left to maybe get you know, a chunk play down
the field to set yourself up, you know, for a
field goal potentially. Yeah, I think I largely guess they
wouldn't have need the field goal, right.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yeah, no, it would have been tai game. Yeah, field
gold would have been for the win.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
My mom, it's like four days Agoers gave up one
hundred and fifty two points the other night, So my
mind is all over the place. I forgot win exactly
that happened in the game.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, So it's like twenty some seconds, twenty five seconds
when Rahie Moore sticks his time out. You know, I
can kind of hear both sides of Hmore has been
asked about that afterwards by the Atlanta media, you know,
badly having missed a couple of kicks already, you know,
could that have played into it? So it's just kind
of the interesting debate you get into those indie game situations.
I thought the clock management by both teams were a
little odd there in the first half.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
So, yeah, Atlanta not calling the time out when they
should have. At the end of the first half, I
was like, win in the world.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I about both sides. That's a misses there, so well's
you got anything else we'll top into. I think a
good amount of Twitter questions.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Oh yeah, we've got a ton of them. When we
will start with Connor. Connor was wondering Kevin what Carly
ors Gordon's interactions are like with the media, as she
seems like someone naturally suited given she seems like true
fan and has a lot of exposure to the game. However,
I've only seen very reserved and rarely exposed to the media.
(20:08):
What kind of relationship does you have with the media
and do you see that relationship changing in the future.
Highly recommend by the way. Reading Stephen Holder's piece on
Carli erc Gordon on ESPN dot com as well.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah, that was that was well done. Yeah, and I
think Joel if like I mentioned Joel Erickson as well,
he's had some features on all three of the Daughters
for the Star. I thought those are well done as well.
You know the little I don't want to act like
I know carl is super super well, but you know,
my interactions over the years with her, I've always thought
very curious, smart, I would say curious slash inquisitive, you know,
(20:45):
I I think, you know, just kind of a sponge,
which you know, I think when you get to people
with a the last name she has, or people the
positions in authority, I think it's really important to have
those sorts of qualities, particularly when you know, yes, she
was born in the business, but the daily grind of
running an NFL team is a lot different. And I
(21:06):
think you've got to be someone that you know is
willing to wear a lot of hats of just opening
your ears, and I think she's she clearly is a
fan of doing that. I mean, maybe a little bit
more reserved, certainly than her father, But I also think
there's a little bit of fire in there that maybe
she won't necessarily as outwardly as her dad will, but
(21:28):
you know that it's in there. You know, as far
as media is concerned, what we've talked to her once
in a group setting, mm hmm, and that was, you know,
right after her dad's passing. There so nothing at training
camp like her dad typically would do. We'll see what
the off season looks like. You know, for the most part,
an owner primarily speaks.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Then.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I thought Ballard might have talked after the Gardener trade.
I thought you know the Jets GM talked out was
kind of hoping he would, but he did not there.
So yeah, that's a little bit of Harley background if
you will.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
You know, of course, there was the the videos circulating
of her buying around for everybody.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
I saw that, Yeah in Berlin. Very smartly done there.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
By the way, that atmosphere seemed great on TV and everything.
I think I've told you Eddie, I'm I'm a fan
of the international games. I know a lot of people aren't.
And I get the Colts had to give up a
home game, but I like the thought of you give
up one home game every four years, you play an
international game every other year, and you give up a
home game once every four yeah, and you rotate it around.
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So I think that would give you know, eight and
international games of the various sites. And I know we've got,
you know, in my interaction a just with international fans.
And again this comes from my experience at Wimbley now
nine years ago. I think it's such a cool atmosphere
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and it's fun occasionally. I'm not saying you do it
weekly or you know, twice a month to go over
there and experience that. I think it's school for your
fan base, and the international market is real, and they're
passionate and they want to learn. The game is starting
to become a little bit more global. It's nothing like
the NBA, of course, but I'm totally good at it.
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And I thought it brought some life, frankly, to an
NFL season that you know, not at times, but you
know occasionally you can get a tad redundant. I really
enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
While we're talking about Carly, there's not another question about this.
Did you see the Albert Breer post trade deadline story
that he did and it talked about the Colts in
the trade.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, a little bit of that, yeah, yea yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
And the quote that he got was from from Carli Orsay.
Gordon was like, are you going to band aid it
or fix it forever or whatever? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
She asked Chris Baward that that question.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Do you think that's her giving her like, Hey, let's
do this and stop being, you know, the old curmudgety
guy that you have been with valuing your pictu or whatever,
and go out and get a guy that's proven who
can actually help us win right now.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah. It's a great question because it was presented just
as a question and the piece I didn't think it
was in Mike Carli necessarily to say stop band aiding it.
It kind of reminded me a little bit of the
and we saw a video of this with the Colts
doing that with the Next Pick series when Jim Rsey
spoke up in the Zoom during the twenty twenty drafts
of saying haven't you guys talked about Jonathan Taylor a lot?
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Don't you really like him? And you know Ballard kind
of confirming that and being like, well, if you really
like him, then go up and get them. Yeah, and
they you know, and that trade was nothing like the
sauce gardener trade. That was just a Day three pick
to move up a few spots to get Taylor. So
like it again, this is my opinion. My opinion is
it's a huge part of Carli Ersay's job to ask questions,
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used to get the gears grind in a little bit
to think about that stuff. So you know, in a
way you can look at corner and yes, are they
trying to band aid it right now? With Xavian Howard
or maybe.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Mccli, Makai Blackman, Kaile Blackman, thank you or Taylor, the
guy from New Orleans Taylor.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah, whatever, like a little bit of that, But like
they also gave Traveri's Ward the most money they've given anybody. Yea,
and they they drafted Justin Wally in round three. So
I don't like to me at corner Ballard hasn't tempted
a good amount. Maybe the big free agent signing is
the one he hasn't done until this one, now, you know. Again,
Davor Rhodes and Stefan Gilmore were more of the short
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term here. But yeah, I guess I didn't read it
Eddie as like she was saying, Hey, it's time to
bandate it. But I think she might have thought to herself,
you know what, this is a premium position. It's a
position that we haven't had a lot of drafting success on.
If this opportunity does present itself and it doesn't grow
on trees, maybe this is the time, yeah, to try
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and put more of a serious bandage on it and
not just whatever on a on a bullet wound there.
So yeah, I thought it was an interesting little tidbit
that Albert shared.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
A position group that's kind of declined the last couple
of weeks along with Daniel Jones has been the offensive
and Jay would like to know what do you think
has been going on what the old line in the
past two weeks. Have teams just figured something out? Are
they wore out injuries? Just a big difference from almost
no sacks to thirteen in the last two games.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Yeah, it's a great question. I would say a little
bit of the edge pressure I think has mainly gotten
to the Colts more so than interior stuff, which is
not maybe what you'd expect given how the personnel is.
It continues to be a group that's incredibly healthy. Again,
nine of ten weeks of season, you've had the same
starting a line, and it's not like these guys have
been on the injury report any like. I know Brad
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Smith's missed an occasional Wednesday, but that's really it.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I do think you've played a little bit of better front.
So I know the Atlanta guys are less heralded, but
you know they'd spend a lot of draft capital into
Jalen Walker, into James Peers, and obviously the Pittsburgh guys
you still have some names. Granted I'm watching Sunday night
football thinking, man, the Pittsburgh dudes, you know, could erect
those chargers tackles a little bit more than the wreck
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the old Colts high paid guys there. So, and I'll
go back to what I said about Daniel Jones earlier
in the offenses or the defense that I should say,
you're you're about to play. You're about to face some
pretty good fronts and fronts that are going to be
pretty exotic as well. So I that, to me, I
think is just different. And you know, again with the
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Daniel Jones element to this, one of the biggest Jones
outliers through the first eight games was what he was
doing against pressure, Like that was the bugaboo in New York. Yeah,
when pressure gets to him, he wilts. And again you
can say that about a lot of quarterbacks, but his
was very noticeable through the first eight games, Eddie, when
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pressure got to him, he didn't will He would feast
frankly quite often. Was that the outlier? I think that's
probably the biggest question moving forward. It's like, you know,
there's a little bit of a level of Yes, the
on line has had some really sound games, but when
you're facing playoff caliber teams, there probably is going to
be some sort of whatever facts pressures, blitzeing, however you
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want to label it. What does Jones look like? Can
you do a better job of surviving to the next play,
making drives, end and kicks, finding checkdowns, you know those
sorts of things, scrambling when those opportunities do present itself.
I think that's going to be really critical for him
exit in the bye week.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah, We've got some other questions about Daniel Jones in
his pocket awareness slash president, so I'll hold off on
asking any more on that. Colton and AJ This is
in regards to Alec Pierce because yesterday I know some
of these questions were coming in before ESPN releases, But
Matt Bowen no relation to Kevin Bowen none, and Jeremy
Fawler to senior reporters with ESPN. They came out with
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their you know, top twenty five for the twenty twenty
six NFL free agency class, and three of the top
seven were Colts players Daniel Jones, Braden Smith and Alec
Pearce and in that order, we're on that list. And
would you resign Alec Pierce this offseason? If so, what
is the max you'd give him? That's the question from
Colton and AJ he's going to demand a lot of
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money and I don't know if the Colts have if
the Colts have that money, but he's looking to be
a favorite for Daniel Jones. And I connect the two
with this because Jeremy Fowler wrote in the piece that
don't be surprised if Alec Pierce gets twenty million a year.
And I just feel like Pierce has played his way
into more than twenty million a year based off the
fact that they're not just using him down the field
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anymore as this speed demon guy to get you know,
beyond the corner and pass the safeties, to stretch the
field and chuck it down there, you know, draw pis
or whatever, get a thirty year completion. We're seeing him
a lot more over the middle on drag routs. We're
seeing him a lot more on these outside breaking routes
towards the sideline. And not to mention, you saw it
in the eighty three yard touchdown play. His blocking in
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the run game is an underrated part of his game
that does not get talked about enough.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yeah, that is well said. You know, it's funny. We're
chatowing with Reggie Wayne last week about a variety of things.
And you know, we talked about Pierris Pierce. Someone mentioned
kind of the arrow going up on them, and you know, Reggie,
in the typical Reggie way, is like, that's not the
only thing going up. So this is his price tag.
You know, Reggie gets it, and specifically I think he
talks about that route tree. And you know, Eddie, remember
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at the start of the season, we got into a
little bit of this debate. I think it was right
around the Terry McLaurin news because Terry McLaurin and Michael
Pittman Junr Are following very similar contract situations. They opted
for the shorter second deal to hit free agency earlier
on the third contract. And I said to you, I go,
what would you rather do? Give Michael Pittman Junior a
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third contract or give Alec Pierce a second contract? And
I said Pierce for the second contract.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
I remember in training camp we were talking about which
receiver strikes more defense figure into a.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Defense exactly who's easier to replace? Yeah, And to me,
and again it's come from Pittman guy. Like I've long
appreciated Pittman for what he brings, but the easier to
replace is him not Pierce now a all accounts, both
dudes love Indie and you know, Pittman has made his
home here literally from a farm standpoint, And you know,
I do think Saut Garter and Alek Pierce are very
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very close. But yeah, it's just like this is probably
a bad analogy, and I shouldn't say it as a
father of two daughters, but like Alec Pierce is like
he's a smart girl that's now gotten hot too, or
he's the hot girl that's now.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Smart, probably the other way around.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
But yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, because the strait was,
you know, he was always hot because he could always
go deep. But now he's rounded about a little bit more.
So again, you know, what do you do? You do
you tag Pierce? I you and I were discussing this
before the show, Eddie. You know, the old twenty million tag. Frankly,
I think it was twenty million before this year. I
think I'd said to you the Colts turned down a
team offering a second round pick for him, you know,
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can you imagine? And that was pre start of the season.
So and then you know, if Jonathan Taylor keeps us up,
Malki Kawa ain't gonna be quiet this offseason. Nope, you
know that Taylor's agent's going to be chiming in here
as well. Son. I'd go back to something about Pierce,
like when when when you watch a TV copy of
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games and you see Daniel Jones on cork one mm hm.
I just think to myself, if that announcer says and
he's got Pierce DP, it's like watching Halliburton shoot a
game winner in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
It's like, you know what's going in. Yeah, you know
Pierce is catching it, uh huh penalty of the Yeah,
there's just like no doubting that. And honestly, more of
the question is Jones getting it on target. Frankly on
that So I don't know, Eddie.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
I would probably rank it like this, Jones and Pierce
won one A and then I think it's a big
drop to Bradon Smith and the Cross m h. I
think it's very difficult to pay a second safety the
amount of money you're you have to pay a Necross YEP.
I get there's really nobody behind him. Whereas Jalen Travis,
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it's I think it's Jalen Travis more than Gonsalves. I
think consolves interesting guard moving forward here. So that's how
I would view it now. Again, financially, you probably could
squeeze Braden and ordinate Cross in if you would like to.
And you know who knows where Braiden's at from a
family standpoint, you know, third contract all that. But yeah,
that's how I probably view.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Just kind of looking at you know, average you know,
contracts or receivers. Two that stuck out to me when
I was looking at this Jamison Williams for Detroit twenty
six point six sixty six million a year, uh, Courtland
Sutton twenty three a year, Calvin Ridley twenty three a year,
Michael Pittman Junior twenty three point three three three repeating,
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and Nico Collins for Houston twenty four and a quarter.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah. I mean those are some impressive names you just
laid out there north of twenty. But obviously the cap
continues to go up.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
The Jamison Williams one is the one that I would
probably look at the most.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
And I just keep on going back to this Eddie.
He has the specialists trait. Yeah, And I say that
for a reason there, like he's got the unique element.
I don't know what I could compare it to in
a different sport. I had to, like, whatever the rare
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picture out of the bullpen that has just a special
pitch that you think.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Is Mariano Rivera's cutter, super effective.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Sure, it's just that element to him of it's hard
to create a lot of deep chunk plays in the NFL. Yeah,
that's just how defenses are largely playing it. And when
you have a guy with whatever the volleyball background that
he has and his ability to high point in come
down with it, I mean he didn't. I'll never forget
him playing Notre Dame in IU in that final season Cincinnati,
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and you know he lost some dudes in those games.
So boy, it's gonna be quite the quite the payday
for him and we'll see you know all again it
is Is Pittman going to be a.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Casually Yeah, that is a fascinating one to monitor this offseason.
Pittman obviously would have to be a casualty in my opinion,
just for you know, if you wanted to bring back
Nick Cross. But that's just how I feel about it.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, and you know you might have to do some
of that juggling and then you know, again, where does
Louis Roumo come in to play with all this? Is
there more defensive personnel that he feels like needs to
be tweaked or changed? You know what's a future out linebacker?
M hm, Yeah, that's one that again doesn't seem like
it's a huge priority, but still you can't totally totally
ignore it.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Still, five Twitter questions left Walter looking at two games.
The last two games with Daniel Jones is looking more affordable.
What the Cults can't do is what the Giants did
and overpay him. When the overpay him then hurt their
chances to sign other key players. Ball security is a
big question with him, and he is showing more of
the Giants' traits that got him released. JT definitely should
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be the MVP, and the success Dane Jones has had
is due to Jonathan Taylor running through the league.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Boy, I had to laugh when you said the word affordable.
Affordable and quarterback in the same sentence makes me laugh.
I know, yeah, I don't think that's the word I
would ever use. I understand where Walter is coming from. Eddie.
This is the slippery slope. Who are you paying for?
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Are you paying for? Tannehill? Are you paying for Daniel
Jones Giants or are you paying for Baker? You know,
Seattle is a fascinating example of it this past offseason
letting Gina walk for Darnold, and by all accounts right now,
it looks like a definite upgrade. Like to me, I
don't think the Minnesota. You know, people people keep on
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bringing up Minnesota. If I'm not mistaken, I think of
Minnesota might have offered Daniel Jones more than Indy. I'm
pretty sure that is true. But like I understand where
Minnesota was, Like, you drafted JJ McCarthy, they traded up,
are they not for JJ McCarthy? They drafted him what
eleven overall? Twelve overall somewhere around there. Yeah, and you
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know he wasn't some project, like you don't draft him
and not give him the keys at some point here,
you know, could they have waited I guess another year
maybe they could have. But again, Darnold probably won of
multiple years at that point. So you know, this is
going to be really really interesting. And like if this
level of let's say Jones, let's say if the first
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eight games, Eddie in the last two games, Let's say
if those two had a baby, and that's the Daniel
Jones we see the rest of the season.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Now we learned from Max bow And that the baby
goes in the belly, right.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Well that and if you're in the car with kids,
maybe you want to turn it down. But I do
have to share this from Max Bowing here from a
couple of days back, instead of Max, Hey, you want
to change Nelly? And you know he's intrigued, sure, yeah,
oh yeah. And you know Max has been super sweet,
and then he gets a dinosaur in his hand and
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he gets close to Nellie and he turns into Bontees Burfett.
He's just head hunting and I'm like, Max, we can't
have it. So anyways, he comes and change, you know,
helps me change her, and you know, I take off
her diaper and get ready to you know, put a
new diaper, and certainly she has gone number two here
in this diaper, and all of a sudden, Max Bowen
just just yells out at Daddy, what is that? Look
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at her penis? And I'm like, gosh. And so, you know,
anatomy for a three year old probably not necessarily the
most up to date, but.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
He was birds in the convo.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
He was confusing her umbilical cord, which you know is
still there. It was there until she had a blow
out last night, and then it finally came off. You know,
you know, the umbilical cord kind of hangs in there
for for a few days pos post delivery, and he
was very confused about that element two words there. So yeah,
I have no idea where I was going with that,
Max Beellen, why did you bring him up?
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Oh? Because you remember he filled in for me that
went pot goes. Yeah, I was in mommy's belly, right.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Yes, he's quite a lot, he said Falcons on the pod,
but he went with Colts on the helmet day, so
he got back to his twenty ways.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Oh that's great, let's get back into the Twitter questions. Tank.
Daniel Jones definitely holds onto the football way too long,
especially when defenses send pressure. I feel like that's part
of the reason why he keeps getting strip sacked. Are
there counter blitz is that stiking can install into our
game plan to prevent these disaster plays. I feel like
your read option plays could be one way to counter
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the blitz. Another thing that I would say is just
the fact that he's just standing in the pocket too long.
He doesn't really. I understand he's trying to get away
from the narrative about him being a running quarterback first,
but step up in the pocket or trying to extend
the play a little bit.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Yeah, it goes back to what I was saying about
that Pittsburgh play on the shot to Pierce that he
wanted on the first down. You know, is there an
element and again this I think Steichen Anne Jones both
collaborating here, is there an element of when you draw
this play up on a Tuesday, you're saying to him, Hey,
on this play, we're leaving Braden Smith one on one
with TJ.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Watt.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
You either have to anticipate that deep ball to pearce
at two point one in your head, and if you
get to two and a half, that ball's got to
be the number eighty four in the checkdown that I think.
You know, I'm fine with drawing up some concerted seven
step drops, you know, I always I feel that way
about Notre Dame football.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Right now. CJ.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Carr is such a great deep ball thrower. You have
got to have him dialing. I would say one to
two deep balls every quarter. But when you do that
make sure that your tackles either he knows they're on
an island or they're not on an island. And you know,
you obviously want to deploy x amount of people out
on a route tree to you know, help out from
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a checkdown standpoint, and so I think that is part
of it. I don't think maybe he's found as many checkdowns.
It seems like the Jonathan tam the little dumps haven't
been maybe as abundant or in general, where are those
hot and like it's hard to you know, when you're
taking a seven step drop, the old hot read is
probably gonna be a little different. So again, can you
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find some of those hots a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
The Taylor checkdown aspect, just because they're asking him to
chip more and be in more pass protection.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
Yeah, yeah, that could be part of it as well.
But you know, those legs have been a weapon. And
again it's not legs from a Reid option standpoint, it's
legs from a you know, scramble standpoint.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
So that has been very good of it. How many
times have you said those legs have been a weapon?
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Yeah? Probably a lot, But I that was I mean
without them, they don't win. I mean that third and
twenty one.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
I mean, even if you only gets ten there, how
many different things can you apply that to? Those legs
have been a weapon? Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
It certainly has not been a PG pod today. This
is one of my half assed brain podcasts of all
time there, So I'm just trying to fight through it
and get back home.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Rat would like Dannel, has the fan base realized that
we're on a collision course for another Colts Patriots AFC championship.
Not going to count chickens before they hatch. But I
much prefer playing the Chiefs and the Patriots and playoff football.
How about this, haven't they played each of like the
last four years and this is the one year that
they haven't played each other and they're both good again?
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Colts Patriots? Yeah yeah, I think you're right. Yeah yeah,
I And now we're getting in the old chief stat
of like Patrick Mahomes has never beat the Colts to
two in the regular season, right, I did beat them
in a in the playoffs there. I do think Drake
may is good. I don't know if I don't think
the Chiefs. Excuse me, I don't think the Patriots are
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eight and two good? But I do think Drake May
is good. I would rather play the Patriots and the
Chiefs though, Yeah, I mean I'm a big believer in
playoffs stepping stones, Yeah, and like playoff experience matters. Took
Peyton Manning six years to win a game in the playoffs,
took him what nine years to win a Super Bowl?
Andrew Luck had the progression of three years appearance when
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Road win. It is pretty wild when you look at
the standings, Eddie, Like, Jacksonville to me is on life support.
I just don't see them hanging in there. Maybe their
schedule will help them out, but I think that collapse
on Sunday was Travis Hunter out for the year. Like
to me, it just I don't think Jacksonville will be there.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
But in versely, Houston seems to be ascending.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Yeah, but they got a long way to go. They
got a small margin for air and it could be
another week of Davis Mills so and I know they
got Tennessee. But still you very well, which would be wild.
We could get to January and the three Road wild
card quarterbacks Mahomes, Allen and Herbert Wild. You imagine what
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the Vegas lines would look like with those three on
the road, and that's why it's so critical to get
the one seat, you know, to be the Colts and
not be the Patriots. Or tonight, if you're listening to this,
we're recording late Thursday morning. J E t s it up.
You want the Jets to beat the Patriots. And you know,
we got a little bit of this debate on our
morning show.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Just don't drop the ball?
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Uh yeah, eighty Mitchell plus one thousand, I see to.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Score touchdown, I believe. So this game, we got a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Of the debate of Denver Kansas City a Sunday, who
would you rather have win? And I am of the
thinking of you want the one seed, so you want
Kansas City to beat Denver. But then there's a little
bit of thinking of do you just want to try
and bury Kansas City? Yeah, which it's a good counter thought.
I don't think I'm there, but I can kind of
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hear people out on that.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah, because right now, what Kansas City five and four
there because they're technically.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
The eight, right they're they're they're outside of Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Yeah, and you would have to assume one of Cincinnati
or Baltimore is going to ascend into that conversation as well.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Boy, I'll go back Eddie to a conversation we had
Wednesday before the Falcons game. Like to me, I think
I called it like a heightened urgency. You know, it's
one of these games, and I think, you know, it's
an NFC game in the middle of the sea. On paper,
it doesn't feel like it's a big game. To me,
that was such a crucial win because you know, and
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just look at the sequence of those two games at
the AFC South Yeah, if Atlanta bats down fourth and
two and Davis Mills doesn't scramble for his life, now
all of a sudden, you're looking at what three loss
Indie and three loss Jacksonville going into the by and
you still face Jacksonville twice. Like the AFC South By record,
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the Colts have a very nice lead, but the fact
that they haven't played Jacksonville Houston leaves the door open.
Now again, I expect Indy to close it. But mathematically,
if Jacksonville worked to sweep you, now, all of a sudden,
the division turns into probably a little bit of favorite
to Jacksonville. Yeah, just mathematically had a head tiebreaker. All that.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Ben would like to know if the Colts can put
Ashton Dollan back there to return punts. Josh Dowens is
talented and has game breaking ability, but he has a
turnover waiting to happen. We saw it two weeks ago
and it almost happened again against the Falcons. He didn't
track the ball well in the air.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Yeah, he does have a little bit of that.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
To him now.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Isn't it always funny how the most dynamic punt returners
have a little bit of that to them almost you
know the ball and I'm thinking of Josh Cribs fumbling
on the It's the title game after the Colts gotten
early stop against New England and the flight gate took
on a whole different meaning from there, so it yeah,
I hear you out on it. Yeah, Doolan, I don't.
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I can't even recall Dulan field in too many punts,
even during training camp. It always seems like it's just
a small white out that's back there doing it. So,
I don't know, Goold seems to be fine. You know,
you would think Downs would be just so secure based
off how he uses as a white out there, But
he definitely has told the line. But then when he
gets his hands on it huge place. And again I'll
(46:55):
go back and said earlier man Abdullah on those returns.
I mean, I assume the Colts would have gotten into
badsy field goal range. Again, but any boy Abdullah getting
that return like he did, you probably removed yourself from
another two to three pass rush situations. Yeah, and giving
out your line and Daniel Jones were holding up. That
(47:16):
might have been the difference in the game.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Yeah. Final Twitter question is from Joel. Now that Sauce
Gardner trade has happened, it seems apparent that Daniel Jones
is going to be the guy moving forward. Joel's question
is did the Colts show their hand by not extending
Jones before the trade deadline? But another way, will Jones
come at a higher price now that his agent knows
(47:40):
the Colts now lack the resources to draft the top
tier quarterback for the next two years at least, or
was it too soon to get a deal done with
Jones not criticizing the trade, I am a fan of it.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Yeah, that's Joel. It's that's probably one way to look
at I think that's a good point. Now we should
mention you do have the franchise tag, you know, Eddie.
I'd like to think this a an agent is an agent.
They're going to try and get the most money. I
understand how that works, and that's their job. I also
would like to think, in a quiet moment between agent
and Daniel Jones, where they're not speaking to the colts
(48:16):
and the colts aren't listening, they would like to say,
Daniel Jones, A would like to say, you know what,
this indie situation has worked out great?
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
I love Shane Saikam, Jonathan Taylor, I love the tin roof,
I love going the NY five hundred and having a
drink or two. I enjoy my life here and I
enjoy playing football here, and that, to me easy for
me to say is worth a couple million less than
going to play in New Orleans, yeah, or wherever. So again,
(48:47):
I know that sounds mary, and it's easy for me,
as someone that has never seen commas like Daniel Jones
and will never sniff commas like Daniel Jones in his life,
to sit here and say, but I'd like to think
that's in the corner now. Again, it's a dangerous game
to play. You talking about the podcast, Oh very good, Gosh,
my brain is so Fried today like that. That didn't
(49:09):
even register to me.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Nice job.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
So yeah, I guess the Colts showed their hand a
little bit. But you know, you can only acquire quarterbacks
in so many ways. How Jones plays the rest of
the year, Eddie really interesting.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
It'll be really interesting to see how the Anthony Richardson
play out in Downfall this too, because obviously you've committed
to Jones with the.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
Two trading in the air. I mean, does Richardson put
on a Colt's uniform in the rest of the year.
I guess he's eligible to come off, ir right, isn't
he after the bye?
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (49:43):
I almus tell me that that I was, and that
I was like very close to being essentially gone. It
was like that close.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Wow. Yeah, So, I mean.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
I hope I can't. And again we're only out there
for the first twenty I don't know if I've seen
him at a Colts practice yet. Have you seen him
on the sidelines? I don't think so, Yeah, I don't.
I've been thinking I'm actively looking, right, but you would
think the camera would show him.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Yeah, is there?
Speaker 1 (50:14):
So hopefully everything's good on that end, all right, Eddie,
you got anything else?
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Man? Do you have anything more than do we have
any other inappropriate stuff to talk about? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (50:22):
Do you have to put the E on this?
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Capitally the explicit.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
He is Eddie Garrison, I'm Kevin Bow and everybody have
a great, great weekend and we'll be back next Wednesday.
Colts Corner, Kevin Bow and Colts in Chiefs in Week twelve.
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