Jong did in fact return! On today's issue Jong gives his thoughts on the MCU Multiverse ranking from Comicpalooza, where he would've ranked some of the films, and what the crew had too high/too low. Plus, Michael gives his non-spoiler review of Jurassic World Rebirth, Punisher being set to appear in Spider-Man: Brand New Day, Vin Diesel's recent Fast 11 comments, and whether The Dark Knight is the best comicbook movie of the 21st century.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I could do this. You don't want to get.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
You.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Oh hello, they're internets. Welcome to issue six hundred and
(00:40):
one of Comic Cast. I'm Michael Carroll alongside returning Jong
Lee Jong.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
We've missed you.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Oh hey everybody.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Uh yeah, it was unexpected, but I wish I could
have been there, and uh, it looked like you just
had a blast.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
And what really blummed me out.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Is when you told me there were like nearly seventy
people there listening to you.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Oh man, that I think is probably a re a
Comic Cast record, right.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I know one time we had like, I don't know,
like thirty people there or something like that.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
It was that one was a loud one, and so
I can't imagine how how much participation and stuff you
got during during this one.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
According to Crimson, who was volunteering at the podcast area
at Comic Palooza when we did issue six hundred, he
said he told us afterwards he was like, the count
was fifty seven people. I was like, oh wow, that's awesome.
I did not realize. I was so focused on podcasting,
had no idea, but yeah, we had a good turnout.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
It it did feel kind of like the low key
turnout that we had back in twenty twenty one where
it was like standing room only kind of sitch. There
were still seats though, so I think it was also
people kind of showing up for.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
A little bit and then leaving as well.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
So but we had a good, good turnout and a
good group that was watching watching the podcast. And then yeah, man,
I mean it sucks not having you there, and it
was like a shock to say the least.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Yeah, I really wish and and a fun topic this year.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Obviously.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
We'll get into that in my reaction to your not
not not not you you choices, but the the your
choices from from the panel. So yeah, I excited to
get in and excited to be back on the it's
been two or three weeks yet, right, yeah, about two
weeks or so. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm I'm excited to
(02:48):
get into it.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
So really really quick, What happened, Jeong? What where were
you on the day?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Well? I know, but can you tell listeners a little
bit about what happened?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I mean, nothing exciting.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
It was basically on the way there and not too
far from home, out of light, you know some but
it just didn't hit the bricks in time. So yeah,
it was it was okay, not too bad in terms
of damage. It was just a little you know, fender bender.
But obviously even with the small things like that, you
(03:23):
have to you know, collect information, exchange information, insurance idy
stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Yeah, and then but by the time, I mean, I
think I left a little bit before too, so you know,
get there around two thirty, fine, you know, give give
me some you know, thirty minutes to find parking and
and whatnot, and it put me back and I think
I texted you like, I don't know, too thirty ish
or so, I don't I don't remember. But yeah, like
(03:53):
by the time I got everything cleared up out, it
would have been like, you know, got.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
To George R.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Brown by two, three, three, ten, three fifteen, whatever it was,
and you know, by that point find parking and if
that you know, ended up finding parking and walking there,
it would have been a you know over So yeah,
it's just a bummer.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
It sucks, man.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
When I think it was like around two twenty when
I got your text message and I was sitting in
the podcast area watching the podcast that was going on.
I forget the podcast name, but they were ranking the
I think they were ranking the Final Destination movies, and
but I was there and I was sitting by Sean
Tajapor who was there too, and I got your text
(04:40):
and I was like the shocked Pikachu meme, like.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Oh oh oh. It was like oh no.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
But Sean was like right there and he was like, yeah,
I'm sure I'll do it. I'll hop in. So it
worked out. So I literally was sending him the docs
right then and there and like, this is how it's
gonna work. But then it was like it was just
all like a rush. But it worked out, I think
in the end, even though some people are not fans
of how the ranking turned out, as it was voiced
(05:08):
to be online via via listeners, so but yeah, man,
it was sad to see you, but yeah, we were
able to make it work. Now the results of the
podcast of our ranking, so I'll go through it really
quickly for listeners who haven't maybe heard that issue of
Comic Cast. But thirteenth, we started from the bottom and
(05:30):
worked our way up. At thirteenth, I selected a man
in the Lost Quantumnia. Twelfth, Sean selected thor Love and Thunder. Eleventh,
Sally selected Eternals tenth, Brian selected Captain America Brave New
World at ninth, I selected Doctor Strange in the Multiverse
of Madness. Sewn selected Shawan Chi at number eight. Schalise
(05:55):
selected The Marvels at number seven, Brian selected Black Widow
at number six, I pick Deadpool and Wolverine at number five,
Black Panther Condo Forever. Sean picked Black Panther we Condo
Forever at number four, Shelis picked Thunderbolts at number three,
and Brian picked Guardians of the Galaxy Volume three at
number two, which means Spider Man No Way Home ended
(06:15):
up being the number one film based off our ranking.
So what what did you What do you think of
those rankings? What did we get too low? What did
we get too high? Just general thoughts strong and if
you have your own rankings, please feel free.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Just off the bat. I I think there's there's a
couple of things I think. I think a man is
probably at the right spot, am Man thor I don't
have too.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Many qualms about it. Eternals is too low? Was it
a was it an amazing film? Was it Spider Man?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
No? I thought it was a.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Beautiful, beautifully shot movie. It's so hard to do a
movie like that with the number of the ensemble size
is so so big, close out, fantastic director. It looks
absolutely stunning and beautiful, quite possibly the best looking MCU
(07:17):
movie up today to ever. I think that's too low.
I don't have qualms with Brave New World being that low.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I think.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
It's almost blasphemy that Shang Chi is at eight, you
and if you, and and Black Widow being at number six.
I almost I looked at us and I thought, heyde
they they must have forgotten Black Widow was a Phase
four movie, and and then and then by the time
six world around like, oh, black Widows still there. Let's
(07:53):
just put that at six. I think Black Widow suffers
for from a couple of things. One, it got released
way too late. It should have been released in Phase
two with you know, And it's just I don't know
if they just didn't want to take a risk on
a female led movie, probably until we got to Captain
(08:19):
Marvel after a wonder Woman did Gangbusters. But I don't
think it was It was a it was a good
mediocre movie.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I don't think it was all that great.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
I think you could probably put put that in lower man.
I think you can probably you definitely can swap it
off with chang Chi. But shang Chi needs to get
you know, boosted up up into the top five. I
feel like yeah, but yeah, I mean, I think Thunderbolt
(08:53):
was good. Is it top three? I don't know. I
don't know. It's it's a top five movie, top five
Phase four movie for Phase five movie or top five
you know, the way that we're doing post endgame, I
think it's top five for sure. Where so shang Chi,
(09:14):
I can I think can take I think and I
think shang Chi can take Deadpool and Wolverine spot enough
time has passed. It's Deadpool Wolverine good movie, Uh, you know,
very funny. It's just you know, it's not a better
movie than shang Chi. Both have a little bit of problems.
(09:37):
Shang Chi has a problem towards the end of the movie.
Deadpool Wolverine very unserious. I mean, I guess that's what
you kind of get from Deadpool. But I think having
Deadpool and Wolverine at six and shang Chi at five
and maybe four, they move Black Panther Black Panther down
one and maybe shan Chi goes three. Thunder Bolts Cloes
(10:00):
or I think that might be what I would have
had it at. But even if I was there, though,
my turn would have been Seawn's. So I think thor
Love and Thunder probably goes there. I definitely would not
have chosen shang Chi at eight if if all those
were remaining, I probably have Black Widow at eight, and
(10:23):
then at number four. Number four is man, I don't
even know if I think at number four I would
have taken Thunderbolts, okay, and then Shelly's probably takes like
shang Chi or something right, well, if you know that's
I guess if Shanxi makes it there, But yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
It's generally a did list.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
There was just a couple of nitpicks that I think,
you know it, it would have turned out a little differently.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
So you think for because I want to go back
to Eternals really quick, do you think probably more in
the nine to ten range versus where it was at
maybe eight?
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Even uh, it's better than Captain America. It's man, I
really want want to like Doctor Strange. I think Doctor
Strange is a little low. I think it goes below
Doctor Strange. Black Widow goes below all of that. I
(11:21):
think Doctor Strange probably goes to like seven, and then
you go Marvels and then Eternals. So Eternals goes nine
and the Marvels goes eight. Kaushanci will boost up. Yeah,
I think that's where I probably would have.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
It because I bring up Eternals because that's where a
lot of people are like, Michael, you should have picked
Eternals for thirteenth. I was like, a man, the Lost
Quantumania is the bottom of the of the of this ranking.
That's why I was like on the podcast, I was like,
there's no correct answers for the rest of this except
for this bottom one.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
And it's ant man on the Lost Quantumnia.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I mean, what was the biggest biggest thing against Eternals?
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Too many characters, I think was the big thing.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah, but I think it's it's written and directed.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Okay, it's you know, obviously, like you know, being what
it is const consensus being towards the bottom half of
you know, post endgame. I mean, you know, you know,
I accept that. I think, you know, for what it is.
I think the film, the cinema, cinematography is just absolutely fantastic.
(12:35):
Sure it could have been written better. Acting was fine.
Acting was great. There was a lot of overblow, you know.
The characters itself was a lot. Do you need to
introduce all of them at once? I mean it helps.
I mean not that it helps, but should you have
gone in a different direction with with the story, maybe
because you know, were you're telling a story that spans
(12:58):
across so much time, and maybe you do it up
to a certain point and then focus on you know,
an X amount of years and then when if number
two gets released greenlit, then you you.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Know, fast forward it up to modern day.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
And and I think it could also be the fact
that it got released too late in terms of where
in the MCU time, like the where they when they
did it, because I know they wanted to you know,
fast track all the stuff with the and all that
stuff with the nimantium and you know and whatnot with
(13:37):
the celestials.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
And so that it probably suffered from that too. And
then you tie that into Black Panther Wakonda Forever as well.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
So it's yeah, I mean, I think if it came
a few years earlier and then the second one and
released when it did, then I think we don't have
a problem with with the eternals, but yeah, I mean
it's just that's just you know, bad timing.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
What about your number one? Would you say Spider Man
No Way Home? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Yeah, I think no, no questions about that. I you know,
Guardians I think deserves probably deserves two. You know, on
a good day, I could go shan Chi, I could
go you know, I could you know.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I think I think Guardians is good at number two.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I think the for me, the top five for sure
is Black Panther were Condo Forever. This is in no
particular order, but just Black Panther Were Condo Forever, shang Chi, Thunderbolts,
Guardians of the Galaxy, and Spider Man No Way Home.
I think that's the top five. So I definitely would
have had shang Chi way up more on this list.
(14:48):
I would have pushed out dead Pool and Wolverine to
be like a six or maybe six, maybe seven, I guess,
I don't know, but for sure at least six to
give room for shang Chi in the top five. I
don't I don't think like if the way we ended
up I think makes sense, especially with the way the
list obviously went. Me personally, I have Thunderbolts, a little
(15:13):
higher than most, and I have it as my probably
number one, but you could probably talk me into Spider
Man No Way Home or Guardians. Honestly, like I was
doing a rewatch and Spider Way, Spider Man No Way
Home hit me again, it maybe even more than I
expected on the second view, And whereas like when I
watched Doctor Stranger in the Multiverse of Madness, I got
(15:35):
a little more frustrated with it on a second go around,
and dead pulling Wolverine like I enjoyed it, but like
the Wolverine emotional parts didn't hit for me nearly as much,
just because I still think that that story could have
been done in a different way.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Whereas you you make.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
It similar to the Old Man Logan story where he
actually killed the X Men instead of just making it
the human humans that came in and took killed the
X Men.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
However, they explained it in the movie.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Yeah, you know, and that one suffered from you know,
going not being able to clean it up post writer strike,
and you know, some of the stuff that they were
supposed to delve into with the Wolverine, you know, backstory
just didn't make the cut because they just didn't have
time and you know, it sucks, it really does. But
(16:30):
as a movie you have to deal with that kind
of stuff, and that whole Wolverine stuff. It just made
those sense. Yeah, storyline wise, it did not make any
sense just because they weren't able to explore that explored
that piece of the story, and it suffered a lot
for it in terms of story. But you know, it's
(16:53):
it's part of it's part of in the overall aspect
of that movie or any movie. You have to you know,
you can't give him a pass or that, you know,
just like you know, I'm not gonna give a Man
in the Wasp for a pass of because of what
happened with with Jonathan Majors, you still have to you know,
(17:16):
he's gone and I you know, I guess, I guess
at that point they weren't expecting him to be gone.
But you know, you know what I mean, Like that
happens within the process of the movie being made or
after the movie being made. You just have to deal
with that kind of stuff, and that's part of the
you know, it's part of the ranking of the movies.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
So moral of the story. We should never let Sean
Tajapor draft on our episodes anymore.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I mean, I don't think he did that bad. I
just think he just took schunk sheet just way too
high or you know, in the order of.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
The draft just too early, too early. That was a
third rounder.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Yeah, yeah, as a third rounder was, especially when you're
doing it in reverse.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
So yeah, so Sean take that. We love you. No,
it's fine. Enough of Comic Blues Talk. I mean, well,
there is more, just in terms of just the event itself.
Fun event to go to. Got to catch up with
Fred and everyone there and other podcasters like Cult forty
(18:22):
five and Fusion Ha and all that so much. Loved
everyone out there at Comic PLUSA again, thank you for
having us be part of it this year, Carrie and
Erica and everyone who runs the program.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
So it's fun.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
We look forward to doing it again next year. Now,
before we get into our podcasts and everything, I do
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Speaker 4 (18:53):
Five stars. That'd be cool. We would really appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
You can also listen to a version of this podcast
on ESPN ninety seven and ninety two to five Wednesday
nights at eight pm. We have a few items that
I want to get to you jong, but really quickly.
I do want to talk about a film I had
a chance to watch last night at the time of
this recording, and that's Jurassic World Rebirth, the new film
(19:17):
and Jurassic Park World and a continuation of sorts, but
also a like a refresh point, a re establishing, if
you will, not quite a soft reboot, but because it
does acknowledge the events of the previous films, but it
is a new story, new characters, very limited in terms
(19:38):
of having to know anything from the Jurassic World trilogy.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
I have to say I enjoyed it. It was good.
It was a solid movie.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
It does harken back to a lot of the elements
that worked from Jurassic Park and you know, the original
ones that we enjoyed, especially when it comes to the
horror elements and making the dinos scary that in that
way and just feeling different rather than focused on the whole,
(20:08):
like mutated Indominus Rex and Indo Raptor, like the dinosaurs
are all across the world, all that type of stuff.
Like it's it goes back to basics in some ways
with that approach and taking a more horror element to it.
There is a mutation storyline, but it's not the main
(20:29):
feature here. It's more focused on Scarlett Johansson's character, Jonathan Bailey,
mherschela Ali's characters as they go to try and get
DNA that can help human medicine. And then you have
that's the story A. That's the plot A, and then
you have a plot B with the family that gets
stranded around the same time that they're trying to do
(20:52):
this mission, so their their stories kind of intersect. Movies fun,
it's it's fun, enjoyable. It takes a little bit to
get going, a little slow at first, but once it
gets going, I think the trio of Jonathan Bailey, Scarlett Johanson,
and maherschelah Ali are the strength of it. And I
think when they're all three of them are together, that's
where the film is made.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Their chemistry is really good.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
I mean, it helps when you have award nominated actors
in this spot, but I honestly wanted more of that,
and because of.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
The two plots.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
We don't get a lot of that because the two
plots intersect briefly and then diverge and then intersect again,
and so it feels a little disjointed in that sense.
So some people may not love that aspect of it.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
I know it.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
It left a lot to be desired in terms of
getting more in depth with the characters, because there were
certain aspects where it's like, oh, this character could have
related more if they had just spent more time with
this other one. And it can be kind of predictable
in some ways, especially if you know, like if you've
seen a d World movie, Drass Part movie, you kind
of know how things are going to go. They go
(22:04):
to an island they shouldn't go to. Things go bad,
Dinos get smart and attack and hunt and all that.
You know, you kind of get the gist of it.
But it's still a fun ride and and enjoyable experience.
Better than the last two. That's one hundred percent for sure. Honestly,
it's it's probably probably three or four. I would say three,
(22:29):
because I personally like the first two the most, and
then everything else from there is just kind of under it.
From there, if if folks want to put Jurassic World
the first one at third or whatever.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
I get.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I can understand it, but uh, it's it's fun and
it's dinosaurs. I mean, what can you not like about dinosaurs?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah? How was Scarlett Joe in the movie?
Speaker 4 (22:49):
She was good. I liked her her character a lot.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
And that's another thing where it's like, I wish they
would have found a way to just have her, Mahershela,
and John than Bailey's characters. I'm blanking on the names.
I forgot to write them down before we started recording,
But like if we had just gotten more of them
interacting and having their story and their backgrounds. Because you
(23:13):
get a little bit of their backgrounds, you kind of
understand where they're coming from. But it's very surface level,
and I really wish they would have pushed it a
little bit further so we could kind of understand why
Scarlett Johansson's character does this, sh does the things that
she does. She's having a ball in this and I
think she does well with that. She She's playing this
(23:35):
mercenary on this mission and it worked, and I just
I wanted more of that and more interaction with the
other characters that are established there because just in the
middle of this movie, the plot A and plot B
feels so distant at times that it's just like, Okay,
take a break from this group. Now we're gonna go
watch this group for a while. Okay, that group's done.
(23:57):
Now we got to go back to this group. And
it just I wish they had just kept them together
because it was like, oh, Maherschela has some things in
terms of being a dad, and he could have related
to the dad that's stranded on the island with his
two daughters and one of the daughter's boyfriends. Like it
just could have related more in some ways and just
(24:18):
enhanced the emotional part of it, because there's some emotional parts,
but you know, they're very, very few. There's really one
part that hits emotionally. Outside of that, it's just, you know, fun,
fun action movie that has dinosaurs.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah, I imagine it'll make a good chunk of change.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Oh yeah, I mean, who was it? Somebody online had
said something about I'm surprised the theaters this busy for
a week night and it's a midnight showing or whatever
it is. It's like, dude, it's dinosaurs, Like, what do
you expect? People are going to show up for dinosaurs,
and the crowd we were watching it with they really
(24:58):
I mean, they were eating it up. They of course
they were giving it. It was all the super fans,
if you will, so they were just clapping and having
a ball.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
So, I mean, if.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
You've liked the previous Jurassic World movies, Jurassic Park movies.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
You're gonna enjoy this one.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
It's shot in practical settings, so that kind of helps.
The CGI worked for me. I didn't think anything was
particularly bad. There's one thing where it's like, I really
don't understand how big dinosaurs can sneak up on people,
specifically the gigantic like long necks, when they just kind
of pop up out of nowhere, like you got to
(25:32):
hear them. But like, it's a minor it's really a
minor complaint. I think, honestly the biggest thing here is
the mutation angle of it all, because that was the
big angle that they I think highlighted in the trailers
and everything, and it's really like, outside of the beginning,
in the very end, it's really not touched on too much.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
So I just wonder if.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Instead of going the mutation route, just going with just
a giant. I don't know, Spinosaurus or something like that
like we did in the previous films, might have worked
a little bit better.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
But action was good.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Dinosaurs are scary, good good shots with how they present
the hunting and everything like that. Like it's fun, Like
it's enjoyable. I give it three and a half out
of out of five on letterbox. I think a lot
of people I think it's like in the fifties right now.
I would put it more like seventy, like sixty five seventy.
(26:31):
I think if we're going rotten Tomatoes meter, it's a
fun watching worth your time, especially if you're a fan
of Jurassic World.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, most people are.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Most people like.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Things blowing up in dinosaurs, which you know why we
have so many fast in the Furious movies. So which
these type of movies won't ever go away.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
I don't reboot it.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
They'll reboot, They'll reboot Jurassic Park, the franchise. Oh, they'll
piey College Jurassic Park again.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Jurassic Park revisited.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Which, speaking of one of the reviewers that I saw
the movie with last night messaged me he's like, I
don't know why they called it rebirthed, and I was like, honestly, yeah,
you're right.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
I don't really know either.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
It's just it's probably just because it's a rebirth of
the franchise after the downpoint it was in twenty twenty two,
even though I think that movie still made.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
A lot of money.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
So hence why we're getting another movie that is really
continuation of the last one. Because they acknowledge that dinosaurs
were around the world, but this is not this is
not really a spoiler. This is just kind of how
they present information early on. Is that because of like
the climate and whatever else, diseases and vegetation and everything,
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a lot of the dinosaurs that were around the world
back in Fallen Kingdom and Dominion, they're now just around
the equator, mainly in tropical climates because they couldn't handle
the other climates. So there is an acknowledgment of the
previous ones, but it's not.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
A big deal. So don't worry.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
If you want to remember what Chris Pratt did and
the last ones or anything like that, you don't have to.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
It's not it's not needed whatsoever.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
Yeah, it's gonna I would imagine this next. I would
imagine this rebirth trilogy is gonna I would imagine Scarlett
Joe's going to be involved in all of these.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Yeah, I would think so.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Her and Jonathan Bailey for sure, And then I would
I would imagine Maherschelo as well.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Yeah, those are some big names, so yeah, they'll be
just fine.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Yeah, no, they'll be extra fine.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Also, there's a little dinosaur that's called Dolores that's adorable,
So there's that. Toys will be going wild for Dolores,
I'm sure. But yeah, if folks want to go check
that out, it's in theaters this Friday. Since you mentioned
Fast and the Furious, though, I do really want to
quickly just say.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
You know where I'm going with this.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Yeah, Vin Diesel this past weekend was I don't know
what this thing was, this festival thing or whatever it was,
but he was on stage and its hype crowd and
this and that, and he's like.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
The studio said to me, then can we please have
the finale of Fast and Furious April twenty twenty seven,
I said, under three conditions.
Speaker 6 (29:39):
The first is to bring the franchise back to la.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
The second thing.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
Was to return to the car culture to the street
right day.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Oh, this is good.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
You want to know what the third thing was?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Does anybody want to know what the third thing was?
Speaker 4 (30:22):
The third thing? The third thing was.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Reuniting Dom and Brian O'Connor. That is what you're gonna
get in the finale.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
The second thing was we're gonna go back to car
culture and racing culture and all that.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
It's like, sure, sure, but correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
But the last movie you left off with a damn
blowing up and you like you and your son in
the movie getting possibly drowned, and there's all this other
stuff happening. So I don't know how you get back
to race and culture when you left off of a
cliffhanger like that.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
And then the third thing was apparently Brian O'Connor will
be back in this one. I I imagine, like because
you know, when you watch the video, the crowd, you
know it's going hyped, is getting hyped when he's saying stuff,
and I just in my head cannon when he says
and Brian O'Connor's back, the crowd's like, ooh, uh, do
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you really want that? Because that feels like an AI
thing And I just we don't we don't need that
we really really don't need that. The way they ended
Brian's story and three US seven was fine, we don't
need to reunite Tom and Brian.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
At this point.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
Yeah, I mean, I would imagine his brother is gonna
stand in, Paul Walker's brother stands in like he did
the last time, and they just see Gi his face
over which I see. There's some I would imagine. You know,
I think it raises some ethical concerns, and I think
you got a lot of backlash with the Flash with uh,
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you know, some of the cg in that one, including
a couple of dead people and then Nick Nicholas Cage.
So yeah, I yeah, I'm not I'm not.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
A fan of this.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
I mean, I also haven't been a fan of the
series since in like six h five or six well,
I forget whichever one that was, but it was before
the Rock I think, or it was the one that introduced.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
No wait, it was the one where Gal Gadott's character
got killed.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Six Yeah, that one.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
That one was okay, and then uh, and then I
just stopped watching. But yeah, I I don't think we
I don't think we needed Fastened the Furious uh to
ever come back.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah, we could have left off at ten honestly, like
it's it's fine, what are we on now, It's gonna
be eleven. Yeah, Fast and Furious eleven, which apparently drops
in twenty twenty seven according to Vin.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
I yeah, I just I mean, obviously, this whole thing
is kind of jumped the shark for a while now.
I think the peak for me was Fast five. That's
when they introduced the rock, and that was the whole
Brazil and taking the vault out of the Brazil Police
headquarters and all that, and and six and seven I liked, okay,
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but then eight happens, nine happens, and ten, and it's
just it's gone downhill, and it's just they've gone to space.
They've gone this, they've gone that. How you go back
to racing culture is just an insane statement to make
when you're basically superheroes and super like The Fastest and
the Furious Hobbs and Shaw introduced Superhumans, Like, it's just
(33:54):
you're not You've you've gone a totally different route at
this point.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Yeah, it's somehow morphed into DC with meta humans, and
I'm just sure and you know, you know, fighting on
top of parking garages having a collapse and not anyone dying,
and then you know the can't lose basically can't lose
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contracts between two of your top stars make it.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
So none of them lose the movie. Sure, sure, yeah, it's.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
I mean, to their credit, they keep making a lot
of money and people know what to expect, so I
shouldn't give them that much crap for it. Because even
with like John Wick, you know what you're expecting when
you walk in, and you basically I.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Judge John Wick off of the action.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
So if you go into Fast and Furious expecting bad acting,
expecting just insane things to happen, like going into outer
space or flying cars and whatnot, then.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I have I really have no room to judge.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
And if you're expecting that going in, then I guess
I should judge your movie based off of that. So
they're doing something right.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
They're doing something. They are doing something.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Are you surprised that none of the Fast and Furious
movies made New York Times is top one hundred movies
of the twenty first century list?
Speaker 5 (35:26):
No? No, not whatsoever. But yeah, I took I took
a gander a peek.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
At the at the list. Some of some of the
choices were a little interesting. I don't have too many
qualms about the list, but yeah, yeah, go and introduce
this list that we're about to talk about.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
So the New York Times they they were doing the
thing last week, the week after.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Comic Balooza, the week of whatever, June.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Twenty third, where they were basically doing a poll for
people to vote on what were the best movies, the
top one hundred movies since the beginning of the twenty
first century, which means movies that have released from January first,
two thousand to present, and so people could vote on them.
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And they had I think a panel of over five
hundred people where it was made up of actors, directors,
you know, different folks in the industry that voted on
this that determined the top one hundred movies of the
twenty first century. And they released the list either I
think it was late last week or early this week,
whatever it was exactly. But yeah, one of well, for one,
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the top movie released based off these, based off the
polls and everything, and based off this list, the top
movie of the twenty first century is Parasite, directed by
Bong June Hoe. They're on this list you know, it's again,
it's a it's a multitude of different films on this list,
there are two comic book films that made it. Number
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ninety six is Black Panther and number twenty eight is
The Dark Knight. So, according to this list, if you
want to go by this list, the Dark Knight is
the best comic book movie of the twenty first century.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Do you have any qualms about that statement?
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Or obviously it's a lot more nuanced than that, But
that's the gist of what this this list kind of says.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
I mean, essentially, since we are in a or we
were in a golden age of comic book movies, you
would say, I would say, according to this list, the
Dark Knight is the greatest comic book movie of all time.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Right, you can just kind of like.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
For from from that just because of the boom really hit,
you know, starting with The Dark Knight in Iron Man,
I guess you could really say it kind of you know,
the infancy with the with the Toby McGuire Spider Man franchise,
which also we're in the two thousand, So do I
think it's the greatest comic book movie of all time?
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It's debatable, you know, I could either be talked into
it or out of it depending on the day.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
I don't, you know.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
But twenty like, having looked at the list and having
at twenty eight, it's I feel like it's wild. It's
a good movie. Man Like, I'm the biggest Dark Knight
defender out there. It's you know, arguably the greatest trilogy
of all time, which is you know, saying something. Man,
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there are some movies that are above the Dark Knight
on this list, lower than this on this list that
I feel like shouldn't be lower. I don't, like, I'm
not gonna sit here and take it through all this,
but like it's I like, let me see if I
could find one that I think the Departed.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
I think that Departed is a better movie.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
It's sitting at thirty one, so just because like that,
I don't think it's rated correctly. Man Like, there there
are some movies right above, not right above it, just
above it that are just just amazing. Oh boy, at
forty three I think is another one. Uh you know
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what I am. I am surprised that we do see
animated films, comic book movies, documentaries on this list, which
I think they deserve there they deserve their time to shine,
like there's up Wally. So you have all of this
stuff and in comedies.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Like Borat, this list is wild to me.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
Yeah, you know, I think one of the movies that
I think were very very under underrated under ranked as
Memento at sixty two. I think that's one of Christopher
Nolan's best work. Little the Sunshine six three is really good.
I think it could be higher. So yeah, I think
Oppenheimer's at sixty five. I don't know if like on
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the Pantheon of all the Christopher, Christopher Nolan shows up
on this thing so many times, so like, is is
is that his highest movie on this list?
Speaker 2 (40:21):
He don't know if it is.
Speaker 5 (40:23):
But but it's just I don't have too much of
a qualm about the top ten. I think tom me crazy,
but I think old No Country for Old Men is
too low, like it needs to be higher. And I
haven't seen I haven't seen this number two movie muham
muhalland Drive. I haven't seen that one.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Datedly yeah, I've heard of it, but I've never watched it.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
So I mean I think I also honestly think like
there will be blood No Country for Old Men and
you know, parasite those three you could probably toss up
and I would not have a problem with any one
of those being number one.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
I get Out.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
I guess there are movies on here that I surprised me,
but it makes sense, Like get Out, I didn't like.
I just forgot about get Out, and then I got
to eight and I was like, oh, you know what,
get Out could be higher on this list.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
But yeah, I think I'm scrolling.
Speaker 5 (41:18):
Through this very quickly to see if Christopher Nolan's if
Dark Knight is his highest rated movie. Aang Lee the
Top the top twenty twice for what is it? A
Hidden Tiger, oh, Crashing Tiger, Hidden Dragon, and also Broke
Back Mountain. But yeah, I think Dark Knight is p
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that is Nolan's highest rated movie.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
And I don't know if that's his best movie.
Speaker 4 (41:45):
Honestly, Oppenheimer's probably his best movie.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
That's like in the and that's in the sixties.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
Sixties.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Yeah, I wonder if that's like a recency sort of
thing because it was twenty twenty three. That's the only
because I do think it's should be way higher on
this list than it is, because it's it's a phenomenal movie.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
Uh, I don't. I don't have any.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Qualms about Dark Knight being because I mean, I'm also biased.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
I love that movie to no end, and yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
It's hard to separate the nostalgia aspect that I love
for this film. I don't like the revisionish history that
we're having all of a sudden about The Dark Knight
because I see it all the time. Now, I'm like,
this is this trend of having this revisionist history about
good movies and bad movies. It's just it's insane to me.
I get it. It's a it's a it's a rage farm,
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engagement farm sort of thing. But it's just it's wild
to me. But is it the best comic book movie
of all time? I don't know, I don't. It's probably not,
But for me, it's it's up there. It's one of
my favorites. Is it probably a little too high on
this list?
Speaker 4 (42:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Probably because honestly, Oppenheimer is probably a better movie of
of Christopher Nolan's Interstellar is probably a better movie Christopher
Nolan of Christopher Nolans even Inception, which I think also
made this list, but it was in like the fifties
or something like that.
Speaker 5 (43:07):
Yeah, Inception is the second movie on the list, the
highest rated. I think he has like five or six
movies on this list.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
Yeah, he has a good portion of his movies on
this list.
Speaker 5 (43:17):
I mean, there's a handful of directors on this list
that show up multiple times. Quentin Tarantino, Christopher Nolan, Angley,
you have I am missing, Oh I am missing, I'm missing,
I'm missing a huge a couple of huge ones.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (43:38):
Martin Scorsese is another one that shows up a lot.
But yeah, really quickly.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
I voted for this when it when.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
I started take us to your top ten.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
So top ten very biased with two of them, very
very biased. Of the top ten, four of them ended
up on this list. Two of them I completely understand
why they didn't end up on this list. I just
really liked the movies. Also, I was trying to be different, honestly.
First one being Prey of twenty twenty two with Amber
mid Thunder. I just really love that movie. Second one,
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Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, the second of
the original trilogy, well original new trilogy of the twenty tens.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
I just love that movie so much. I think that's
the highest.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
The Peak of the Planet of The Apes, a movie
that I'm surprised didn't make it because I thought for
sure it would Spider Man into.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
The Spider Verse.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Hmmm.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
I'm really shocked that that didn't at least make it
in like ninety something or in the eighties or anything
like that. Godzilla minus one, phenomenal movie. Surprised they didn't
make the list. The Raid Redemption, which is the martial
arts action flick from Indonesia that I think redefines action
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and a lot of films have based their action off
The Raid Redemption, doesn't get enough love. This is where
I start having stuff on the list. Oppenheimer, which was
sixty fifth, The Dark Knight, which was twenty eighth nineteen seventeen.
Kind of surprised that didn't end up on the list.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
I really love that movie.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
But I'm also this goes back to my bias. I
am a bias one take fan. So the whole movie
being a one take sold Children of Men, which I
think ended up thirteenth on the list, and then Parasite
number one on the list, So I was I was
kind of with it. I had some picks that were
kind of in there.
Speaker 5 (45:32):
Yeah, yeah, and I think, you know, and I think
just like the voters on this list, they have their
preferences and you have yours. So which is why the
sample size of a number of people voting was five hundred.
So yeah, yeah, I and everybody voted for their top ten,
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and so this is how the list kind of panned out.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Yeah, And there's also a thing on the article where
you can select which movies you have seen and haven't
seen or whatever. I think I haven't seen a good
portion of the movies on this list. I think I've
only seen like thirty something movies on this list. There's
a lot that I'm like, oh, that's a blind spot
for me in a lot of ways. So like a
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Mulholland Drive or some of these other ones that were listed.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Yeah, I think I don't know.
Speaker 5 (46:24):
I think maybe, just off the top of my head,
maybe thirty percent of these movies I haven't seen, maybe forty.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
But I feel like I've seen a lot of these movies.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
There's one movie where I was like, I forget what
the movie was. I was like, I feel like I've
watched it, but I think it's a Mendela effect where
I've seen enough clips to know what basically the gist
of it sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (46:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (46:47):
Yeah, but I am glad that they went with a
wide range of movie and I guess that's all dependent
on like the voters, right wide range of types of
movies that they kind of kind of did. So Yeah,
it's uh, it's it's nice to see some representation here
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for sure.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
Last thing before we wrap up, it's a story that
kind of came I think it was. It came out
the first day of Comic Palooza, and that is of
all characters, I did not expect this character to pop
up in Spider Man Brand New Day. Uh, the Punisher
is in Spider Man Brand New Day. John Birthnall will
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be reprising his role in the movie.
Speaker 4 (47:37):
Jeong. I'm shocked.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
I this is not a casting I expected for Spider
Man Brand New Day.
Speaker 5 (47:43):
No.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Then it almost feels.
Speaker 5 (47:45):
Like, uh, Dared Devil should be on this thing too.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Yeah, it's I know there's a rights.
Speaker 5 (47:55):
Issue with Daredevil and and and in Kingpin, which is
strange to see Punisher being on the rumored list of
potential cameos or guest appearances. It almost feels like if
he's going to be in it, then Matt Murdock's in it.
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I like it's the rights. Thing is very murky because
Matt Murdoch appeared in No Way Home very briefly, so
I don't know what to make of it. I almost
want to hold out hope that we're going to get
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Dared Uvil and Kingpin. I just don't know if it's
going to happen. Sense why Punisher would be involved without
Dared vol or Kingpin.
Speaker 3 (48:50):
Yeah, I would be so cool if they are. I
really hope they are right now. The only thing we
know for sure, and this is according to the Hollywood
Reporter article from the announcement of it, is that Zendeia
and Jacob Batalon are both reprising their roles as MJ
and Ned, but how stamp how substantial those roles will
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will be remains unclear, and Stranger Things stars Sadie Sink
is the big new addition so far. The story takes
place after the events of the previous movie, in which
the entire world knew Peter Parker was Spider Man.
Speaker 4 (49:23):
And then had in the knowledge erased.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
Yeah, that's the only things we know so far, but
that's the I guess. Let me back up this for sure,
like if we weren't for sure before this has to
be a grounded story now, right, Yes, there's no like
I can't see multiverse angles and battle World and like
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what we all were talking about a while ago, or
like even with Sadie Sink's character about a possible Jane Gray.
This feels more like this is going to be a
grounded Spidey story, maybe involving Kingpin and the ramifications of
what he's doing. Because we also know that Spider Man
comes out July thirty first of twenty twenty six. Daredevil
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season two, I believe is gonna come out around March
April of next year. So there's a possibility here where
where we could lead into straight into Brandon Day where
it is Daredevil, Spider Man, Punisher and some of the
others going up against Kingpin and some of the forces
that he's gathering together. Again, movie rights are weird, but
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there's a strong possibility here if you're including Punisher.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
You know what I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna predict
we're gonna get Daredevil and Kingpin.
Speaker 5 (50:45):
They're gonna work They've already worked it out and they're
gonna appear. I'm just gonna I'm just gonna put it
out there in the universe and it's gonna happen because one,
like you said, it's gonna be a grounded movie because
Punisher's involved. And two, having Punisher in it and without
Matt Murdoch or Kingpin doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
Just seems weird to me.
Speaker 5 (51:07):
And three, I think this could be a perfect time
to incorporate Spider Man into the the story that they're
telling with the With the Dead Little TV show. It
could be a perfect place to put place Spider Man
in between season one and two.
Speaker 4 (51:22):
Hm.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
It just uh, it's too perfect not to do it.
Speaker 5 (51:25):
And I I I'm gonna call it it just we're uh,
you know, whenever the announcement gets made, I'm gonna act shocked.
Speaker 3 (51:36):
I'm gonna be surprised when they make this. With when
they make this announcement, I hope it's true. I really
really want to see Spider Man and Daredevil on screen together,
especially after what we saw in No Way Home. As
brief as it was, it would be so cool to
see those two unite on screen and you know, fighting
Kingpins whoever, you know, goons or whatever. I think it
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would be a really cool sequence. And you know, having
Punisher in there. I guess you could maybe do it
like a bit thing, but I feel like if you
have Punisher in there and he's in New York, he's
dealing with Kingpin and all that, you can't not acknowledge
the ramifications of what Kingpin's doing with the anti vigilante
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laws on the show and not have those impact Spider
Man Brand New Day in some kind of way.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (52:28):
You just, I mean, I feel like it's just a
perfect perfect opporten need for them not to you know,
work something out.
Speaker 3 (52:36):
Yeah, hopefully they figure something out because Kingpin's the rights
that are kind of weird.
Speaker 5 (52:41):
Yeah, but it's just, you know, having those two involved
just makes so much sense. And you know, you have
those involved, and then this would have been a great
place to put put Craven in, Yes, you know, and
have have that worked out with but that's just you
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know that that's a whole different Sony issue.
Speaker 3 (53:05):
Yeah, And I wonder because I know Steven Young's been
tied to some rumors here and so maybe there's a
potential mister negative. Maybe they go back to the well,
because they really haven't come back to the Scorpion angle
that we've gotten to tease for a way back in Homecoming,
but they've never paid that off, so maybe we go
back to to that. There's been rumors about Chameleon. There's
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been all sorts of rumors flying around about who could
be the main villain of this film, and then of
course we still don't know who Sadie Sink is playing.
She there's a possible character where she could be a villain.
It's a smaller villain, but she could be a villain
for this movie, or just a new love interest maybe
black Cat or or Gwinn Stacy.
Speaker 4 (53:49):
Or something like that.
Speaker 3 (53:49):
So there's there's a few routes we could go here
with where with where the film goes and based off
what we know of the brand new, Brand New Day comic.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 5 (54:01):
I would imagine like Sadie Sink's character is something that's
gonna be built upon in terms of the next trilogy.
She will be important, But I think for this movie,
I would imagine that the Punisher angle is probably the
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bigger one, and this one with Sadie Sink is probably
just for the long.
Speaker 4 (54:28):
Term for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (54:30):
Probably so she with her being a young up and cover,
I would imagine it wouldn't be just a bit part.
It would be something with some significant legs, if you will. Yeah,
before we wrap up really quickly, be careful out there. Well,
I guess, not be careful, but audit the trailer for
the Odyssey s, Christopher Nolan's new movie apparently has leaked online.
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So be aware of that, I guess, because apparently that
trailer is going to premiere with Jurassic World Rebirth this weekend,
but only if you go watch.
Speaker 4 (55:03):
Jurassic World Rebirth.
Speaker 3 (55:05):
But people are spoiling it online, so if you want
to wait till Jurassic World, there you go.
Speaker 4 (55:10):
Just the heads up, but that's going to do it.
Speaker 3 (55:13):
For issue six hundred and one of Comic Cast, thank
you all for listening wherever you are. We greatly appreciate it.
As always, you can follow us on social media. I'm
at producer Mike nine seven five and.
Speaker 2 (55:24):
I'm at one punch quickly. What do you think of
Ironheart so far?
Speaker 4 (55:28):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (55:28):
Yes, we didn't talk about Ironheart. I am enjoying it
so far. I like the direction it's going. I like
Dominque Thorne's portrayal of re reso far.
Speaker 4 (55:38):
It feels like a good step. I like it.
Speaker 3 (55:41):
I'm not I'm through like an episode and a half.
I need to catch up. When tonight we're the day
we're recording this the final three episodes premiere, so by
the time we come around for six oh two.
Speaker 4 (55:53):
We'll probably be able to do more of a review.
But I like it so far. What about you?
Speaker 5 (55:59):
So I don't have a problem with it. I have
a problem with Marvel just in general where I it's
it's a fine series, you know, don't get me wrong,
I just but I don't want fine, you know, like
I want I want I want Loki. I want most
(56:21):
of what WandaVision gave us. I want like like, that's
what I want. Yeah, if you're gonna ask me to
invest six to twelve hours in your shows.
Speaker 2 (56:32):
That's what I mean. I don't want Like this is
a fine show. It's mediocre.
Speaker 5 (56:37):
Mediocre sounds like it's it's saying I'm saying something negative
about it.
Speaker 2 (56:41):
Mediocre.
Speaker 5 (56:41):
Is it's mediocre, Like it's not terrible, it's not great,
it's just, you know, it's good, it's fine.
Speaker 2 (56:49):
But I don't want fine. I want great. So cut
back on what.
Speaker 5 (56:55):
Y'all are doing and the my minimum expectations should be
what Daredable gave us this past season in the eights, Like, yeah, right,
that's what I want. This is probably all these episodes
are probably in the sixes and sevens. Like it's fine.
You know, some of the story stuff doesn't make I'm
through two episodes, two and a half episodes, so I'm like,
(57:16):
it's fine. It's not great. There's some nice cool action
set pieces. Uh yeah, like like Tom mcthorne's fine. Everything
is just fine. I just but I don't want fine.
I went great, Please give me great?
Speaker 4 (57:33):
Can give John great? It's been a few years, it's
been a while.
Speaker 3 (57:38):
Yeah, it's been It's it's been a minute. Daredevil was
was good. I likedar Dove obviously, Yeah, iron Heart. I
need to get more into it before I fully like
lock down a number or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (57:50):
But you know, so far, I enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (57:53):
I like the environmental story, the title cards that they've
been doing.
Speaker 4 (57:57):
The look of its solid.
Speaker 3 (58:00):
But I get what you mean about, you know, getting
that level of Loki, and we haven't necessarily gotten that
to this point. Although I would throw Agatha all along.
I really liked Agatha.
Speaker 5 (58:12):
Yeah, I mean again, I mean I think it's it
was fine. I mean, I don't you know, I watched it,
you know some of the the whole I forgot all
the characters names, but the one, the one which that
basically is you know, living in a loop.
Speaker 4 (58:31):
Yeah, that was great that that. I was like, oh,
that was really good. I was like, oh, I.
Speaker 2 (58:36):
Still don't understand it.
Speaker 5 (58:37):
But that was a twist that was like, uh, I
forget which horror show that came out that where it
turned out that girl was dead this whole time and
it was her. It was the youngest sister. That was like,
I forget what was called. They made a spin off
of that with her, but I forget what The show
(58:57):
was closed on Netflix like years ago, a couple of
years ago, where like the dead person that's hanging in
the house is actually the youngest sister who followed.
Speaker 2 (59:08):
I forget what it was called.
Speaker 5 (59:09):
I forget, uh, Victoria per Peretti, what was the Haunting
of Blind Manner?
Speaker 4 (59:17):
No?
Speaker 2 (59:17):
No, no, the Haunting of Hill House?
Speaker 4 (59:20):
You remember that? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (59:22):
You remember the twist where she was the youngest sister
and she was she Yeah that that. I love that
kind of stuff, which which is you know, Ageta all
along gave us that, which was really cool, and I
was like oh, mind blown. But yeah, just my small complaint.
I mean, I'm gonna watch. I'm gonna watch the rest
of Ironheart. It's not a priority to me, I don't think.
Speaker 4 (59:43):
But yeah, spoiler review next issue, what do you think?
Speaker 2 (59:46):
Uh, well, i'll try.
Speaker 4 (59:48):
I'll try as well.
Speaker 3 (59:49):
I should have it finished now that you know, not
rewatching anything else or doing anything else. I should be
able to watch all the episodes. So maybe we'll do
a non spoiler or spoiler review on the next issue
of Comiccast, where we'll have more full thoughts, because yeah,
I'm still like early on and I haven't watched enough
to really compose a thought outside of I think it's fine.
I think it's all right. I think Anthony Romos I
(01:00:11):
like him. You know, he's a good villain. I haven't
seen him really do a villain role, so he's all right.
Are we building to Mephisto? I don't know, but we'll see.
That's gonna do it for this issue of Comiccast. Thank
you all for listening wherever you are. We greatly appreciate it.
I think I did this part, but I'm gonna do
it anyway.
Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
I'm a producer.
Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
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Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
Week with maybe an Ironheart review. See you, question Mark
I could do this. You don't want to get.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
You.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Oh hello, they're internets. Welcome to issue six hundred and
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one of Comic Cast. I'm Michael Carroll alongside returning Jong
Lee Jong.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
We've missed you.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Oh hey everybody.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Uh yeah, it was unexpected, but I wish I could
have been there, and uh, it looked like you just
had a blast.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
And what really blummed me out.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Is when you told me there were like nearly seventy
people there listening to you.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Oh man, that I think is probably a re a
Comic Cast record, right.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I know one time we had like, I don't know,
like thirty people there or something like that.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
It was that one was a loud one, and so
I can't imagine how how much participation and stuff you
got during during this one.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
According to Crimson, who was volunteering at the podcast area
at Comic Palooza when we did issue six hundred, he
said he told us afterwards he was like, the count
was fifty seven people. I was like, oh wow, that's awesome.
I did not realize. I was so focused on podcasting,
had no idea, but yeah, we had a good turnout.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
It it did feel kind of like the low key
turnout that we had back in twenty twenty one where
it was like standing room only kind of sitch. There
were still seats though, so I think it was also
people kind of showing up for.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
A little bit and then leaving as well.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
So but we had a good, good turnout and a
good group that was watching watching the podcast. And then yeah, man,
I mean it sucks not having you there, and it
was like a shock to say the least.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Yeah, I really wish and and a fun topic this year.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Obviously.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
We'll get into that in my reaction to your not
not not not you you choices, but the the your
choices from from the panel. So yeah, I excited to
get in and excited to be back on the it's
been two or three weeks yet, right, yeah, about two
weeks or so. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm I'm excited to
(02:48):
get into it.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
So really really quick, What happened, Jeong? What where were
you on the day?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Well? I know, but can you tell listeners a little
bit about what happened?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I mean, nothing exciting.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
It was basically on the way there and not too
far from home, out of light, you know some but
it just didn't hit the bricks in time. So yeah,
it was it was okay, not too bad in terms
of damage. It was just a little you know, fender bender.
But obviously even with the small things like that, you
(03:23):
have to you know, collect information, exchange information, insurance idy
stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Yeah, and then but by the time, I mean, I
think I left a little bit before too, so you know,
get there around two thirty, fine, you know, give give
me some you know, thirty minutes to find parking and
and whatnot, and it put me back and I think
I texted you like, I don't know, too thirty ish
or so, I don't I don't remember. But yeah, like
(03:53):
by the time I got everything cleared up out, it
would have been like, you know, got.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
To George R.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Brown by two, three, three, ten, three fifteen, whatever it was,
and you know, by that point find parking and if
that you know, ended up finding parking and walking there,
it would have been a you know over So yeah,
it's just a bummer.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
It sucks, man.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
When I think it was like around two twenty when
I got your text message and I was sitting in
the podcast area watching the podcast that was going on.
I forget the podcast name, but they were ranking the
I think they were ranking the Final Destination movies, and
but I was there and I was sitting by Sean
Tajapor who was there too, and I got your text
(04:40):
and I was like the shocked Pikachu meme, like.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Oh oh oh. It was like oh no.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
But Sean was like right there and he was like, yeah,
I'm sure I'll do it. I'll hop in. So it
worked out. So I literally was sending him the docs
right then and there and like, this is how it's
gonna work. But then it was like it was just
all like a rush. But it worked out, I think
in the end, even though some people are not fans
of how the ranking turned out, as it was voiced
(05:08):
to be online via via listeners, so but yeah, man,
it was sad to see you, but yeah, we were
able to make it work. Now the results of the
podcast of our ranking, so I'll go through it really
quickly for listeners who haven't maybe heard that issue of
Comic Cast. But thirteenth, we started from the bottom and
(05:30):
worked our way up. At thirteenth, I selected a man
in the Lost Quantumnia. Twelfth, Sean selected thor Love and Thunder. Eleventh,
Sally selected Eternals tenth, Brian selected Captain America Brave New
World at ninth, I selected Doctor Strange in the Multiverse
of Madness. Sewn selected Shawan Chi at number eight. Schalise
(05:55):
selected The Marvels at number seven, Brian selected Black Widow
at number six, I pick Deadpool and Wolverine at number five,
Black Panther Condo Forever. Sean picked Black Panther we Condo
Forever at number four, Shelis picked Thunderbolts at number three,
and Brian picked Guardians of the Galaxy Volume three at
number two, which means Spider Man No Way Home ended
(06:15):
up being the number one film based off our ranking.
So what what did you What do you think of
those rankings? What did we get too low? What did
we get too high? Just general thoughts strong and if
you have your own rankings, please feel free.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Just off the bat. I I think there's there's a
couple of things I think. I think a man is
probably at the right spot, am Man thor I don't
have too.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Many qualms about it. Eternals is too low? Was it
a was it an amazing film? Was it Spider Man?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
No? I thought it was a.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Beautiful, beautifully shot movie. It's so hard to do a
movie like that with the number of the ensemble size
is so so big, close out, fantastic director. It looks
absolutely stunning and beautiful, quite possibly the best looking MCU
(07:17):
movie up today to ever. I think that's too low.
I don't have qualms with Brave New World being that low.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I think.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
It's almost blasphemy that Shang Chi is at eight, you
and if you, and and Black Widow being at number six.
I almost I looked at us and I thought, heyde
they they must have forgotten Black Widow was a Phase
four movie, and and then and then by the time
six world around like, oh, black Widows still there. Let's
(07:53):
just put that at six. I think Black Widow suffers
for from a couple of things. One, it got released
way too late. It should have been released in Phase
two with you know, And it's just I don't know
if they just didn't want to take a risk on
a female led movie, probably until we got to Captain
(08:19):
Marvel after a wonder Woman did Gangbusters. But I don't
think it was It was a it was a good
mediocre movie.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I don't think it was all that great.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
I think you could probably put put that in lower man.
I think you can probably you definitely can swap it
off with chang Chi. But shang Chi needs to get
you know, boosted up up into the top five. I
feel like yeah, but yeah, I mean, I think Thunderbolt
(08:53):
was good. Is it top three? I don't know. I
don't know. It's it's a top five movie, top five
Phase four movie for Phase five movie or top five
you know, the way that we're doing post endgame, I
think it's top five for sure. Where so shang Chi,
(09:14):
I can I think can take I think and I
think shang Chi can take Deadpool and Wolverine spot enough
time has passed. It's Deadpool Wolverine good movie, Uh, you know,
very funny. It's just you know, it's not a better
movie than shang Chi. Both have a little bit of problems.
(09:37):
Shang Chi has a problem towards the end of the movie.
Deadpool Wolverine very unserious. I mean, I guess that's what
you kind of get from Deadpool. But I think having
Deadpool and Wolverine at six and shang Chi at five
and maybe four, they move Black Panther Black Panther down
one and maybe shan Chi goes three. Thunder Bolts Cloes
(10:00):
or I think that might be what I would have
had it at. But even if I was there, though,
my turn would have been Seawn's. So I think thor
Love and Thunder probably goes there. I definitely would not
have chosen shang Chi at eight if if all those
were remaining, I probably have Black Widow at eight, and
(10:23):
then at number four. Number four is man, I don't
even know if I think at number four I would
have taken Thunderbolts, okay, and then Shelly's probably takes like
shang Chi or something right, well, if you know that's
I guess if Shanxi makes it there, But yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
It's generally a did list.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
There was just a couple of nitpicks that I think,
you know it, it would have turned out a little differently.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
So you think for because I want to go back
to Eternals really quick, do you think probably more in
the nine to ten range versus where it was at
maybe eight?
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Even uh, it's better than Captain America. It's man, I
really want want to like Doctor Strange. I think Doctor
Strange is a little low. I think it goes below
Doctor Strange. Black Widow goes below all of that. I
(11:21):
think Doctor Strange probably goes to like seven, and then
you go Marvels and then Eternals. So Eternals goes nine
and the Marvels goes eight. Kaushanci will boost up. Yeah,
I think that's where I probably would have.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
It because I bring up Eternals because that's where a
lot of people are like, Michael, you should have picked
Eternals for thirteenth. I was like, a man, the Lost
Quantumania is the bottom of the of the of this ranking.
That's why I was like on the podcast, I was like,
there's no correct answers for the rest of this except
for this bottom one.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
And it's ant man on the Lost Quantumnia.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I mean, what was the biggest biggest thing against Eternals?
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Too many characters, I think was the big thing.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah, but I think it's it's written and directed.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Okay, it's you know, obviously, like you know, being what
it is const consensus being towards the bottom half of
you know, post endgame. I mean, you know, you know,
I accept that. I think, you know, for what it is.
I think the film, the cinema, cinematography is just absolutely fantastic.
(12:35):
Sure it could have been written better. Acting was fine.
Acting was great. There was a lot of overblow, you know.
The characters itself was a lot. Do you need to
introduce all of them at once? I mean it helps.
I mean not that it helps, but should you have
gone in a different direction with with the story, maybe
because you know, were you're telling a story that spans
(12:58):
across so much time, and maybe you do it up
to a certain point and then focus on you know,
an X amount of years and then when if number
two gets released greenlit, then you you.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Know, fast forward it up to modern day.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
And and I think it could also be the fact
that it got released too late in terms of where
in the MCU time, like the where they when they
did it, because I know they wanted to you know,
fast track all the stuff with the and all that
stuff with the nimantium and you know and whatnot with
(13:37):
the celestials.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
And so that it probably suffered from that too. And
then you tie that into Black Panther Wakonda Forever as well.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
So it's yeah, I mean, I think if it came
a few years earlier and then the second one and
released when it did, then I think we don't have
a problem with with the eternals, but yeah, I mean
it's just that's just you know, bad timing.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
What about your number one? Would you say Spider Man
No Way Home? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Yeah, I think no, no questions about that. I you know,
Guardians I think deserves probably deserves two. You know, on
a good day, I could go shan Chi, I could
go you know, I could you know.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I think I think Guardians is good at number two.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I think the for me, the top five for sure
is Black Panther were Condo Forever. This is in no
particular order, but just Black Panther Were Condo Forever, shang Chi, Thunderbolts,
Guardians of the Galaxy, and Spider Man No Way Home.
I think that's the top five. So I definitely would
have had shang Chi way up more on this list.
(14:48):
I would have pushed out dead Pool and Wolverine to
be like a six or maybe six, maybe seven, I guess,
I don't know, but for sure at least six to
give room for shang Chi in the top five. I
don't I don't think like if the way we ended
up I think makes sense, especially with the way the
list obviously went. Me personally, I have Thunderbolts, a little
(15:13):
higher than most, and I have it as my probably
number one, but you could probably talk me into Spider
Man No Way Home or Guardians. Honestly, like I was
doing a rewatch and Spider Way, Spider Man No Way
Home hit me again, it maybe even more than I
expected on the second view, And whereas like when I
watched Doctor Stranger in the Multiverse of Madness, I got
(15:35):
a little more frustrated with it on a second go around,
and dead pulling Wolverine like I enjoyed it, but like
the Wolverine emotional parts didn't hit for me nearly as much,
just because I still think that that story could have
been done in a different way.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Whereas you you make.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
It similar to the Old Man Logan story where he
actually killed the X Men instead of just making it
the human humans that came in and took killed the
X Men.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
However, they explained it in the movie.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Yeah, you know, and that one suffered from you know,
going not being able to clean it up post writer strike,
and you know, some of the stuff that they were
supposed to delve into with the Wolverine, you know, backstory
just didn't make the cut because they just didn't have
time and you know, it sucks, it really does. But
(16:30):
as a movie you have to deal with that kind
of stuff, and that whole Wolverine stuff. It just made
those sense. Yeah, storyline wise, it did not make any
sense just because they weren't able to explore that explored
that piece of the story, and it suffered a lot
for it in terms of story. But you know, it's
(16:53):
it's part of it's part of in the overall aspect
of that movie or any movie. You have to you know,
you can't give him a pass or that, you know,
just like you know, I'm not gonna give a Man
in the Wasp for a pass of because of what
happened with with Jonathan Majors, you still have to you know,
(17:16):
he's gone and I you know, I guess, I guess
at that point they weren't expecting him to be gone.
But you know, you know what I mean, Like that
happens within the process of the movie being made or
after the movie being made. You just have to deal
with that kind of stuff, and that's part of the
you know, it's part of the ranking of the movies.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
So moral of the story. We should never let Sean
Tajapor draft on our episodes anymore.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I mean, I don't think he did that bad. I
just think he just took schunk sheet just way too
high or you know, in the order of.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
The draft just too early, too early. That was a
third rounder.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Yeah, yeah, as a third rounder was, especially when you're
doing it in reverse.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
So yeah, so Sean take that. We love you. No,
it's fine. Enough of Comic Blues Talk. I mean, well,
there is more, just in terms of just the event itself.
Fun event to go to. Got to catch up with
Fred and everyone there and other podcasters like Cult forty
(18:22):
five and Fusion Ha and all that so much. Loved
everyone out there at Comic PLUSA again, thank you for
having us be part of it this year, Carrie and
Erica and everyone who runs the program.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
So it's fun.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
We look forward to doing it again next year. Now,
before we get into our podcasts and everything, I do
have to remind folks that y'all can follow us online
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You can also listen to a version of this podcast
on ESPN ninety seven and ninety two to five Wednesday
nights at eight pm. We have a few items that
I want to get to you jong, but really quickly.
I do want to talk about a film I had
a chance to watch last night at the time of
this recording, and that's Jurassic World Rebirth, the new film
(19:17):
and Jurassic Park World and a continuation of sorts, but
also a like a refresh point, a re establishing, if
you will, not quite a soft reboot, but because it
does acknowledge the events of the previous films, but it
is a new story, new characters, very limited in terms
(19:38):
of having to know anything from the Jurassic World trilogy.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
I have to say I enjoyed it. It was good.
It was a solid movie.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
It does harken back to a lot of the elements
that worked from Jurassic Park and you know, the original
ones that we enjoyed, especially when it comes to the
horror elements and making the dinos scary that in that
way and just feeling different rather than focused on the whole,
(20:08):
like mutated Indominus Rex and Indo Raptor, like the dinosaurs
are all across the world, all that type of stuff.
Like it's it goes back to basics in some ways
with that approach and taking a more horror element to it.
There is a mutation storyline, but it's not the main
(20:29):
feature here. It's more focused on Scarlett Johansson's character, Jonathan Bailey,
mherschela Ali's characters as they go to try and get
DNA that can help human medicine. And then you have
that's the story A. That's the plot A, and then
you have a plot B with the family that gets
stranded around the same time that they're trying to do
(20:52):
this mission, so their their stories kind of intersect. Movies fun,
it's it's fun, enjoyable. It takes a little bit to
get going, a little slow at first, but once it
gets going, I think the trio of Jonathan Bailey, Scarlett Johanson,
and maherschelah Ali are the strength of it. And I
think when they're all three of them are together, that's
where the film is made.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Their chemistry is really good.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
I mean, it helps when you have award nominated actors
in this spot, but I honestly wanted more of that,
and because of.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
The two plots.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
We don't get a lot of that because the two
plots intersect briefly and then diverge and then intersect again,
and so it feels a little disjointed in that sense.
So some people may not love that aspect of it.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
I know it.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
It left a lot to be desired in terms of
getting more in depth with the characters, because there were
certain aspects where it's like, oh, this character could have
related more if they had just spent more time with
this other one. And it can be kind of predictable
in some ways, especially if you know, like if you've
seen a d World movie, Drass Part movie, you kind
of know how things are going to go. They go
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to an island they shouldn't go to. Things go bad,
Dinos get smart and attack and hunt and all that.
You know, you kind of get the gist of it.
But it's still a fun ride and and enjoyable experience.
Better than the last two. That's one hundred percent for sure. Honestly,
it's it's probably probably three or four. I would say three,
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because I personally like the first two the most, and
then everything else from there is just kind of under it.
From there, if if folks want to put Jurassic World
the first one at third or whatever.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
I get.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I can understand it, but uh, it's it's fun and
it's dinosaurs. I mean, what can you not like about dinosaurs?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah? How was Scarlett Joe in the movie?
Speaker 4 (22:49):
She was good. I liked her her character a lot.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
And that's another thing where it's like, I wish they
would have found a way to just have her, Mahershela,
and John than Bailey's characters. I'm blanking on the names.
I forgot to write them down before we started recording,
But like if we had just gotten more of them
interacting and having their story and their backgrounds. Because you
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get a little bit of their backgrounds, you kind of
understand where they're coming from. But it's very surface level,
and I really wish they would have pushed it a
little bit further so we could kind of understand why
Scarlett Johansson's character does this, sh does the things that
she does. She's having a ball in this and I
think she does well with that. She She's playing this
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mercenary on this mission and it worked, and I just
I wanted more of that and more interaction with the
other characters that are established there because just in the
middle of this movie, the plot A and plot B
feels so distant at times that it's just like, Okay,
take a break from this group. Now we're gonna go
watch this group for a while. Okay, that group's done.
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Now we got to go back to this group. And
it just I wish they had just kept them together
because it was like, oh, Maherschela has some things in
terms of being a dad, and he could have related
to the dad that's stranded on the island with his
two daughters and one of the daughter's boyfriends. Like it
just could have related more in some ways and just
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enhanced the emotional part of it, because there's some emotional parts,
but you know, they're very, very few. There's really one
part that hits emotionally. Outside of that, it's just, you know, fun,
fun action movie that has dinosaurs.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah, I imagine it'll make a good chunk of change.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Oh yeah, I mean, who was it? Somebody online had
said something about I'm surprised the theaters this busy for
a week night and it's a midnight showing or whatever
it is. It's like, dude, it's dinosaurs, Like, what do
you expect? People are going to show up for dinosaurs,
and the crowd we were watching it with they really
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I mean, they were eating it up. They of course
they were giving it. It was all the super fans,
if you will, so they were just clapping and having
a ball.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
So, I mean, if.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
You've liked the previous Jurassic World movies, Jurassic Park movies.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
You're gonna enjoy this one.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
It's shot in practical settings, so that kind of helps.
The CGI worked for me. I didn't think anything was
particularly bad. There's one thing where it's like, I really
don't understand how big dinosaurs can sneak up on people,
specifically the gigantic like long necks, when they just kind
of pop up out of nowhere, like you got to
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hear them. But like, it's a minor it's really a
minor complaint. I think, honestly the biggest thing here is
the mutation angle of it all, because that was the
big angle that they I think highlighted in the trailers
and everything, and it's really like, outside of the beginning,
in the very end, it's really not touched on too much.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
So I just wonder if.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Instead of going the mutation route, just going with just
a giant. I don't know, Spinosaurus or something like that
like we did in the previous films, might have worked
a little bit better.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
But action was good.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Dinosaurs are scary, good good shots with how they present
the hunting and everything like that. Like it's fun, Like
it's enjoyable. I give it three and a half out
of out of five on letterbox. I think a lot
of people I think it's like in the fifties right now.
I would put it more like seventy, like sixty five seventy.
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I think if we're going rotten Tomatoes meter, it's a
fun watching worth your time, especially if you're a fan
of Jurassic World.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, most people are.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Most people like.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Things blowing up in dinosaurs, which you know why we
have so many fast in the Furious movies. So which
these type of movies won't ever go away.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
I don't reboot it.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
They'll reboot, They'll reboot Jurassic Park, the franchise. Oh, they'll
piey College Jurassic Park again.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Jurassic Park revisited.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Which, speaking of one of the reviewers that I saw
the movie with last night messaged me he's like, I
don't know why they called it rebirthed, and I was like, honestly, yeah,
you're right.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
I don't really know either.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
It's just it's probably just because it's a rebirth of
the franchise after the downpoint it was in twenty twenty two,
even though I think that movie still made.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
A lot of money.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
So hence why we're getting another movie that is really
continuation of the last one. Because they acknowledge that dinosaurs
were around the world, but this is not this is
not really a spoiler. This is just kind of how
they present information early on. Is that because of like
the climate and whatever else, diseases and vegetation and everything,
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a lot of the dinosaurs that were around the world
back in Fallen Kingdom and Dominion, they're now just around
the equator, mainly in tropical climates because they couldn't handle
the other climates. So there is an acknowledgment of the
previous ones, but it's not.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
A big deal. So don't worry.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
If you want to remember what Chris Pratt did and
the last ones or anything like that, you don't have to.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
It's not it's not needed whatsoever.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
Yeah, it's gonna I would imagine this next. I would
imagine this rebirth trilogy is gonna I would imagine Scarlett
Joe's going to be involved in all of these.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Yeah, I would think so.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Her and Jonathan Bailey for sure, And then I would
I would imagine Maherschelo as well.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Yeah, those are some big names, so yeah, they'll be
just fine.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Yeah, no, they'll be extra fine.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Also, there's a little dinosaur that's called Dolores that's adorable,
So there's that. Toys will be going wild for Dolores,
I'm sure. But yeah, if folks want to go check
that out, it's in theaters this Friday. Since you mentioned
Fast and the Furious, though, I do really want to
quickly just say.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
You know where I'm going with this.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Yeah, Vin Diesel this past weekend was I don't know
what this thing was, this festival thing or whatever it was,
but he was on stage and its hype crowd and
this and that, and he's like.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
The studio said to me, then can we please have
the finale of Fast and Furious April twenty twenty seven,
I said, under three conditions.
Speaker 6 (29:39):
The first is to bring the franchise back to la.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
The second thing.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
Was to return to the car culture to the street
right day.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Oh, this is good.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
You want to know what the third thing was?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Does anybody want to know what the third thing was?
Speaker 4 (30:22):
The third thing? The third thing was.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Reuniting Dom and Brian O'Connor. That is what you're gonna
get in the finale.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
The second thing was we're gonna go back to car
culture and racing culture and all that.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
It's like, sure, sure, but correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
But the last movie you left off with a damn
blowing up and you like you and your son in
the movie getting possibly drowned, and there's all this other
stuff happening. So I don't know how you get back
to race and culture when you left off of a
cliffhanger like that.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
And then the third thing was apparently Brian O'Connor will
be back in this one. I I imagine, like because
you know, when you watch the video, the crowd, you
know it's going hyped, is getting hyped when he's saying stuff,
and I just in my head cannon when he says
and Brian O'Connor's back, the crowd's like, ooh, uh, do
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you really want that? Because that feels like an AI
thing And I just we don't we don't need that
we really really don't need that. The way they ended
Brian's story and three US seven was fine, we don't
need to reunite Tom and Brian.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
At this point.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
Yeah, I mean, I would imagine his brother is gonna
stand in, Paul Walker's brother stands in like he did
the last time, and they just see Gi his face
over which I see. There's some I would imagine. You know,
I think it raises some ethical concerns, and I think
you got a lot of backlash with the Flash with uh,
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you know, some of the cg in that one, including
a couple of dead people and then Nick Nicholas Cage.
So yeah, I yeah, I'm not I'm not.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
A fan of this.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
I mean, I also haven't been a fan of the
series since in like six h five or six well,
I forget whichever one that was, but it was before
the Rock I think, or it was the one that introduced.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
No wait, it was the one where Gal Gadott's character
got killed.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Six Yeah, that one.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
That one was okay, and then uh, and then I
just stopped watching. But yeah, I I don't think we
I don't think we needed Fastened the Furious uh to
ever come back.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah, we could have left off at ten honestly, like
it's it's fine, what are we on now, It's gonna
be eleven. Yeah, Fast and Furious eleven, which apparently drops
in twenty twenty seven according to Vin.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
I yeah, I just I mean, obviously, this whole thing
is kind of jumped the shark for a while now.
I think the peak for me was Fast five. That's
when they introduced the rock, and that was the whole
Brazil and taking the vault out of the Brazil Police
headquarters and all that, and and six and seven I liked, okay,
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but then eight happens, nine happens, and ten, and it's
just it's gone downhill, and it's just they've gone to space.
They've gone this, they've gone that. How you go back
to racing culture is just an insane statement to make
when you're basically superheroes and super like The Fastest and
the Furious Hobbs and Shaw introduced Superhumans, Like, it's just
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you're not You've you've gone a totally different route at
this point.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Yeah, it's somehow morphed into DC with meta humans, and
I'm just sure and you know, you know, fighting on
top of parking garages having a collapse and not anyone dying,
and then you know the can't lose basically can't lose
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contracts between two of your top stars make it.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
So none of them lose the movie. Sure, sure, yeah, it's.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
I mean, to their credit, they keep making a lot
of money and people know what to expect, so I
shouldn't give them that much crap for it. Because even
with like John Wick, you know what you're expecting when
you walk in, and you basically I.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Judge John Wick off of the action.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
So if you go into Fast and Furious expecting bad acting,
expecting just insane things to happen, like going into outer
space or flying cars and whatnot, then.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I have I really have no room to judge.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
And if you're expecting that going in, then I guess
I should judge your movie based off of that. So
they're doing something right.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
They're doing something. They are doing something.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Are you surprised that none of the Fast and Furious
movies made New York Times is top one hundred movies
of the twenty first century list?
Speaker 5 (35:26):
No? No, not whatsoever. But yeah, I took I took
a gander a peek.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
At the at the list. Some of some of the
choices were a little interesting. I don't have too many
qualms about the list, but yeah, yeah, go and introduce
this list that we're about to talk about.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
So the New York Times they they were doing the
thing last week, the week after.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Comic Balooza, the week of whatever, June.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Twenty third, where they were basically doing a poll for
people to vote on what were the best movies, the
top one hundred movies since the beginning of the twenty
first century, which means movies that have released from January first,
two thousand to present, and so people could vote on them.
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And they had I think a panel of over five
hundred people where it was made up of actors, directors,
you know, different folks in the industry that voted on
this that determined the top one hundred movies of the
twenty first century. And they released the list either I
think it was late last week or early this week,
whatever it was exactly. But yeah, one of well, for one,
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the top movie released based off these, based off the
polls and everything, and based off this list, the top
movie of the twenty first century is Parasite, directed by
Bong June Hoe. They're on this list you know, it's again,
it's a it's a multitude of different films on this list,
there are two comic book films that made it. Number
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ninety six is Black Panther and number twenty eight is
The Dark Knight. So, according to this list, if you
want to go by this list, the Dark Knight is
the best comic book movie of the twenty first century.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Do you have any qualms about that statement?
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Or obviously it's a lot more nuanced than that, But
that's the gist of what this this list kind of says.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
I mean, essentially, since we are in a or we
were in a golden age of comic book movies, you
would say, I would say, according to this list, the
Dark Knight is the greatest comic book movie of all time.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Right, you can just kind of like.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
For from from that just because of the boom really hit,
you know, starting with The Dark Knight in Iron Man,
I guess you could really say it kind of you know,
the infancy with the with the Toby McGuire Spider Man franchise,
which also we're in the two thousand, So do I
think it's the greatest comic book movie of all time?
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It's debatable, you know, I could either be talked into
it or out of it depending on the day.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
I don't, you know.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
But twenty like, having looked at the list and having
at twenty eight, it's I feel like it's wild. It's
a good movie. Man Like, I'm the biggest Dark Knight
defender out there. It's you know, arguably the greatest trilogy
of all time, which is you know, saying something. Man,
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there are some movies that are above the Dark Knight
on this list, lower than this on this list that
I feel like shouldn't be lower. I don't, like, I'm
not gonna sit here and take it through all this,
but like it's I like, let me see if I
could find one that I think the Departed.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
I think that Departed is a better movie.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
It's sitting at thirty one, so just because like that,
I don't think it's rated correctly. Man Like, there there
are some movies right above, not right above it, just
above it that are just just amazing. Oh boy, at
forty three I think is another one. Uh you know
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what I am. I am surprised that we do see
animated films, comic book movies, documentaries on this list, which
I think they deserve there they deserve their time to shine,
like there's up Wally. So you have all of this
stuff and in comedies.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Like Borat, this list is wild to me.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
Yeah, you know, I think one of the movies that
I think were very very under underrated under ranked as
Memento at sixty two. I think that's one of Christopher
Nolan's best work. Little the Sunshine six three is really good.
I think it could be higher. So yeah, I think
Oppenheimer's at sixty five. I don't know if like on
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the Pantheon of all the Christopher, Christopher Nolan shows up
on this thing so many times, so like, is is
is that his highest movie on this list?
Speaker 2 (40:21):
He don't know if it is.
Speaker 5 (40:23):
But but it's just I don't have too much of
a qualm about the top ten. I think tom me crazy,
but I think old No Country for Old Men is
too low, like it needs to be higher. And I
haven't seen I haven't seen this number two movie muham
muhalland Drive. I haven't seen that one.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Datedly yeah, I've heard of it, but I've never watched it.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
So I mean I think I also honestly think like
there will be blood No Country for Old Men and
you know, parasite those three you could probably toss up
and I would not have a problem with any one
of those being number one.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
I get Out.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
I guess there are movies on here that I surprised me,
but it makes sense, Like get Out, I didn't like.
I just forgot about get Out, and then I got
to eight and I was like, oh, you know what,
get Out could be higher on this list.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
But yeah, I think I'm scrolling.
Speaker 5 (41:18):
Through this very quickly to see if Christopher Nolan's if
Dark Knight is his highest rated movie. Aang Lee the
Top the top twenty twice for what is it? A
Hidden Tiger, oh, Crashing Tiger, Hidden Dragon, and also Broke
Back Mountain. But yeah, I think Dark Knight is p
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that is Nolan's highest rated movie.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
And I don't know if that's his best movie.
Speaker 4 (41:45):
Honestly, Oppenheimer's probably his best movie.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
That's like in the and that's in the sixties.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
Sixties.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Yeah, I wonder if that's like a recency sort of
thing because it was twenty twenty three. That's the only
because I do think it's should be way higher on
this list than it is, because it's it's a phenomenal movie.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
Uh, I don't. I don't have any.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Qualms about Dark Knight being because I mean, I'm also biased.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
I love that movie to no end, and yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
It's hard to separate the nostalgia aspect that I love
for this film. I don't like the revisionish history that
we're having all of a sudden about The Dark Knight
because I see it all the time. Now, I'm like,
this is this trend of having this revisionist history about
good movies and bad movies. It's just it's insane to me.
I get it. It's a it's a it's a rage farm,
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engagement farm sort of thing. But it's just it's wild
to me. But is it the best comic book movie
of all time? I don't know, I don't. It's probably not,
But for me, it's it's up there. It's one of
my favorites. Is it probably a little too high on
this list?
Speaker 4 (42:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Probably because honestly, Oppenheimer is probably a better movie of
of Christopher Nolan's Interstellar is probably a better movie Christopher
Nolan of Christopher Nolans even Inception, which I think also
made this list, but it was in like the fifties
or something like that.
Speaker 5 (43:07):
Yeah, Inception is the second movie on the list, the
highest rated. I think he has like five or six
movies on this list.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
Yeah, he has a good portion of his movies on
this list.
Speaker 5 (43:17):
I mean, there's a handful of directors on this list
that show up multiple times. Quentin Tarantino, Christopher Nolan, Angley,
you have I am missing, Oh I am missing, I'm missing,
I'm missing a huge a couple of huge ones.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (43:38):
Martin Scorsese is another one that shows up a lot.
But yeah, really quickly.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
I voted for this when it when.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
I started take us to your top ten.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
So top ten very biased with two of them, very
very biased. Of the top ten, four of them ended
up on this list. Two of them I completely understand
why they didn't end up on this list. I just
really liked the movies. Also, I was trying to be different, honestly.
First one being Prey of twenty twenty two with Amber
mid Thunder. I just really love that movie. Second one,
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Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, the second of
the original trilogy, well original new trilogy of the twenty tens.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
I just love that movie so much. I think that's
the highest.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
The Peak of the Planet of The Apes, a movie
that I'm surprised didn't make it because I thought for
sure it would Spider Man into.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
The Spider Verse.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Hmmm.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
I'm really shocked that that didn't at least make it
in like ninety something or in the eighties or anything
like that. Godzilla minus one, phenomenal movie. Surprised they didn't
make the list. The Raid Redemption, which is the martial
arts action flick from Indonesia that I think redefines action
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and a lot of films have based their action off
The Raid Redemption, doesn't get enough love. This is where
I start having stuff on the list. Oppenheimer, which was
sixty fifth, The Dark Knight, which was twenty eighth nineteen seventeen.
Kind of surprised that didn't end up on the list.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
I really love that movie.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
But I'm also this goes back to my bias. I
am a bias one take fan. So the whole movie
being a one take sold Children of Men, which I
think ended up thirteenth on the list, and then Parasite
number one on the list, So I was I was
kind of with it. I had some picks that were
kind of in there.
Speaker 5 (45:32):
Yeah, yeah, and I think, you know, and I think
just like the voters on this list, they have their
preferences and you have yours. So which is why the
sample size of a number of people voting was five hundred.
So yeah, yeah, I and everybody voted for their top ten,
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and so this is how the list kind of panned out.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Yeah, And there's also a thing on the article where
you can select which movies you have seen and haven't
seen or whatever. I think I haven't seen a good
portion of the movies on this list. I think I've
only seen like thirty something movies on this list. There's
a lot that I'm like, oh, that's a blind spot
for me in a lot of ways. So like a
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Mulholland Drive or some of these other ones that were listed.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Yeah, I think I don't know.
Speaker 5 (46:24):
I think maybe, just off the top of my head,
maybe thirty percent of these movies I haven't seen, maybe forty.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
But I feel like I've seen a lot of these movies.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
There's one movie where I was like, I forget what
the movie was. I was like, I feel like I've
watched it, but I think it's a Mendela effect where
I've seen enough clips to know what basically the gist
of it sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (46:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (46:47):
Yeah, but I am glad that they went with a
wide range of movie and I guess that's all dependent
on like the voters, right wide range of types of
movies that they kind of kind of did. So Yeah,
it's uh, it's it's nice to see some representation here
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for sure.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
Last thing before we wrap up, it's a story that
kind of came I think it was. It came out
the first day of Comic Palooza, and that is of
all characters, I did not expect this character to pop
up in Spider Man Brand New Day. Uh, the Punisher
is in Spider Man Brand New Day. John Birthnall will
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be reprising his role in the movie.
Speaker 4 (47:37):
Jeong. I'm shocked.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
I this is not a casting I expected for Spider
Man Brand New Day.
Speaker 5 (47:43):
No.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Then it almost feels.
Speaker 5 (47:45):
Like, uh, Dared Devil should be on this thing too.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Yeah, it's I know there's a rights.
Speaker 5 (47:55):
Issue with Daredevil and and and in Kingpin, which is
strange to see Punisher being on the rumored list of
potential cameos or guest appearances. It almost feels like if
he's going to be in it, then Matt Murdock's in it.
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I like it's the rights. Thing is very murky because
Matt Murdoch appeared in No Way Home very briefly, so
I don't know what to make of it. I almost
want to hold out hope that we're going to get
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Dared Uvil and Kingpin. I just don't know if it's
going to happen. Sense why Punisher would be involved without
Dared vol or Kingpin.
Speaker 3 (48:50):
Yeah, I would be so cool if they are. I
really hope they are right now. The only thing we
know for sure, and this is according to the Hollywood
Reporter article from the announcement of it, is that Zendeia
and Jacob Batalon are both reprising their roles as MJ
and Ned, but how stamp how substantial those roles will
(49:11):
will be remains unclear, and Stranger Things stars Sadie Sink
is the big new addition so far. The story takes
place after the events of the previous movie, in which
the entire world knew Peter Parker was Spider Man.
Speaker 4 (49:23):
And then had in the knowledge erased.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
Yeah, that's the only things we know so far, but
that's the I guess. Let me back up this for sure,
like if we weren't for sure before this has to
be a grounded story now, right, Yes, there's no like
I can't see multiverse angles and battle World and like
(49:48):
what we all were talking about a while ago, or
like even with Sadie Sink's character about a possible Jane Gray.
This feels more like this is going to be a
grounded Spidey story, maybe involving Kingpin and the ramifications of
what he's doing. Because we also know that Spider Man
comes out July thirty first of twenty twenty six. Daredevil
(50:13):
season two, I believe is gonna come out around March
April of next year. So there's a possibility here where
where we could lead into straight into Brandon Day where
it is Daredevil, Spider Man, Punisher and some of the
others going up against Kingpin and some of the forces
that he's gathering together. Again, movie rights are weird, but
(50:37):
there's a strong possibility here if you're including Punisher.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
You know what I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna predict
we're gonna get Daredevil and Kingpin.
Speaker 5 (50:45):
They're gonna work They've already worked it out and they're
gonna appear. I'm just gonna I'm just gonna put it
out there in the universe and it's gonna happen because one,
like you said, it's gonna be a grounded movie because
Punisher's involved. And two, having Punisher in it and without
Matt Murdoch or Kingpin doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
Just seems weird to me.
Speaker 5 (51:07):
And three, I think this could be a perfect time
to incorporate Spider Man into the the story that they're
telling with the With the Dead Little TV show. It
could be a perfect place to put place Spider Man
in between season one and two.
Speaker 4 (51:22):
Hm.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
It just uh, it's too perfect not to do it.
Speaker 5 (51:25):
And I I I'm gonna call it it just we're uh,
you know, whenever the announcement gets made, I'm gonna act shocked.
Speaker 3 (51:36):
I'm gonna be surprised when they make this. With when
they make this announcement, I hope it's true. I really
really want to see Spider Man and Daredevil on screen together,
especially after what we saw in No Way Home. As
brief as it was, it would be so cool to
see those two unite on screen and you know, fighting
Kingpins whoever, you know, goons or whatever. I think it
(51:59):
would be a really cool sequence. And you know, having
Punisher in there. I guess you could maybe do it
like a bit thing, but I feel like if you
have Punisher in there and he's in New York, he's
dealing with Kingpin and all that, you can't not acknowledge
the ramifications of what Kingpin's doing with the anti vigilante
(52:20):
laws on the show and not have those impact Spider
Man Brand New Day in some kind of way.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (52:28):
You just, I mean, I feel like it's just a
perfect perfect opporten need for them not to you know,
work something out.
Speaker 3 (52:36):
Yeah, hopefully they figure something out because Kingpin's the rights
that are kind of weird.
Speaker 5 (52:41):
Yeah, but it's just, you know, having those two involved
just makes so much sense. And you know, you have
those involved, and then this would have been a great
place to put put Craven in, Yes, you know, and
have have that worked out with but that's just you
(53:02):
know that that's a whole different Sony issue.
Speaker 3 (53:05):
Yeah, And I wonder because I know Steven Young's been
tied to some rumors here and so maybe there's a
potential mister negative. Maybe they go back to the well,
because they really haven't come back to the Scorpion angle
that we've gotten to tease for a way back in Homecoming,
but they've never paid that off, so maybe we go
back to to that. There's been rumors about Chameleon. There's
(53:29):
been all sorts of rumors flying around about who could
be the main villain of this film, and then of
course we still don't know who Sadie Sink is playing.
She there's a possible character where she could be a villain.
It's a smaller villain, but she could be a villain
for this movie, or just a new love interest maybe
black Cat or or Gwinn Stacy.
Speaker 4 (53:49):
Or something like that.
Speaker 3 (53:49):
So there's there's a few routes we could go here
with where with where the film goes and based off
what we know of the brand new, Brand New Day comic.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 5 (54:01):
I would imagine like Sadie Sink's character is something that's
gonna be built upon in terms of the next trilogy.
She will be important, But I think for this movie,
I would imagine that the Punisher angle is probably the
(54:21):
bigger one, and this one with Sadie Sink is probably
just for the long.
Speaker 4 (54:28):
Term for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (54:30):
Probably so she with her being a young up and cover,
I would imagine it wouldn't be just a bit part.
It would be something with some significant legs, if you will. Yeah,
before we wrap up really quickly, be careful out there. Well,
I guess, not be careful, but audit the trailer for
the Odyssey s, Christopher Nolan's new movie apparently has leaked online.
(54:53):
So be aware of that, I guess, because apparently that
trailer is going to premiere with Jurassic World Rebirth this weekend,
but only if you go watch.
Speaker 4 (55:03):
Jurassic World Rebirth.
Speaker 3 (55:05):
But people are spoiling it online, so if you want
to wait till Jurassic World, there you go.
Speaker 4 (55:10):
Just the heads up, but that's going to do it.
Speaker 3 (55:13):
For issue six hundred and one of Comic Cast, thank
you all for listening wherever you are. We greatly appreciate it.
As always, you can follow us on social media. I'm
at producer Mike nine seven five and.
Speaker 2 (55:24):
I'm at one punch quickly. What do you think of
Ironheart so far?
Speaker 4 (55:28):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (55:28):
Yes, we didn't talk about Ironheart. I am enjoying it
so far. I like the direction it's going. I like
Dominque Thorne's portrayal of re reso far.
Speaker 4 (55:38):
It feels like a good step. I like it.
Speaker 3 (55:41):
I'm not I'm through like an episode and a half.
I need to catch up. When tonight we're the day
we're recording this the final three episodes premiere, so by
the time we come around for six oh two.
Speaker 4 (55:53):
We'll probably be able to do more of a review.
But I like it so far. What about you?
Speaker 5 (55:59):
So I don't have a problem with it. I have
a problem with Marvel just in general where I it's
it's a fine series, you know, don't get me wrong,
I just but I don't want fine, you know, like
I want I want I want Loki. I want most
(56:21):
of what WandaVision gave us. I want like like, that's
what I want. Yeah, if you're gonna ask me to
invest six to twelve hours in your shows.
Speaker 2 (56:32):
That's what I mean. I don't want Like this is
a fine show. It's mediocre.
Speaker 5 (56:37):
Mediocre sounds like it's it's saying I'm saying something negative
about it.
Speaker 2 (56:41):
Mediocre.
Speaker 5 (56:41):
Is it's mediocre, Like it's not terrible, it's not great,
it's just, you know, it's good, it's fine.
Speaker 2 (56:49):
But I don't want fine. I want great. So cut
back on what.
Speaker 5 (56:55):
Y'all are doing and the my minimum expectations should be
what Daredable gave us this past season in the eights, Like, yeah, right,
that's what I want. This is probably all these episodes
are probably in the sixes and sevens. Like it's fine.
You know, some of the story stuff doesn't make I'm
through two episodes, two and a half episodes, so I'm like,
(57:16):
it's fine. It's not great. There's some nice cool action
set pieces. Uh yeah, like like Tom mcthorne's fine. Everything
is just fine. I just but I don't want fine.
I went great, Please give me great?
Speaker 4 (57:33):
Can give John great? It's been a few years, it's
been a while.
Speaker 3 (57:38):
Yeah, it's been It's it's been a minute. Daredevil was
was good. I likedar Dove obviously, Yeah, iron Heart. I
need to get more into it before I fully like
lock down a number or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (57:50):
But you know, so far, I enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (57:53):
I like the environmental story, the title cards that they've
been doing.
Speaker 4 (57:57):
The look of its solid.
Speaker 3 (58:00):
But I get what you mean about, you know, getting
that level of Loki, and we haven't necessarily gotten that
to this point. Although I would throw Agatha all along.
I really liked Agatha.
Speaker 5 (58:12):
Yeah, I mean again, I mean I think it's it
was fine. I mean, I don't you know, I watched it,
you know some of the the whole I forgot all
the characters names, but the one, the one which that
basically is you know, living in a loop.
Speaker 4 (58:31):
Yeah, that was great that that. I was like, oh,
that was really good. I was like, oh, I.
Speaker 2 (58:36):
Still don't understand it.
Speaker 5 (58:37):
But that was a twist that was like, uh, I
forget which horror show that came out that where it
turned out that girl was dead this whole time and
it was her. It was the youngest sister. That was like,
I forget what was called. They made a spin off
of that with her, but I forget what The show
(58:57):
was closed on Netflix like years ago, a couple of
years ago, where like the dead person that's hanging in
the house is actually the youngest sister who followed.
Speaker 2 (59:08):
I forget what it was called.
Speaker 5 (59:09):
I forget, uh, Victoria per Peretti, what was the Haunting
of Blind Manner?
Speaker 4 (59:17):
No?
Speaker 2 (59:17):
No, no, the Haunting of Hill House?
Speaker 4 (59:20):
You remember that? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (59:22):
You remember the twist where she was the youngest sister
and she was she Yeah that that. I love that
kind of stuff, which which is you know, Ageta all
along gave us that, which was really cool, and I
was like oh, mind blown. But yeah, just my small complaint.
I mean, I'm gonna watch. I'm gonna watch the rest
of Ironheart. It's not a priority to me, I don't think.
Speaker 4 (59:43):
But yeah, spoiler review next issue, what do you think?
Speaker 2 (59:46):
Uh, well, i'll try.
Speaker 4 (59:48):
I'll try as well.
Speaker 3 (59:49):
I should have it finished now that you know, not
rewatching anything else or doing anything else. I should be
able to watch all the episodes. So maybe we'll do
a non spoiler or spoiler review on the next issue
of Comiccast, where we'll have more full thoughts, because yeah,
I'm still like early on and I haven't watched enough
to really compose a thought outside of I think it's fine.
I think it's all right. I think Anthony Romos I
(01:00:11):
like him. You know, he's a good villain. I haven't
seen him really do a villain role, so he's all right.
Are we building to Mephisto? I don't know, but we'll see.
That's gonna do it for this issue of Comiccast. Thank
you all for listening wherever you are. We greatly appreciate it.
I think I did this part, but I'm gonna do
it anyway.
Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
I'm a producer.
Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
Mike nine seven five and I'm at one punch and again, rate, review, share,
or surscribe to this podcast on all your favorite podcast platforms.
Five starts that'd be cool, and we will talk to
you guys next.
Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
Week with maybe an Ironheart review. See you, question Mark
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