Issue 608: Alien Earth Ep. 1 & 2 Spoiler Review & BTS of Superman's Final Speech

After celebrating Alien: Earth day last week, it's time to dive into full spoilers about the first 2 episodes of the new series. They give their thoughts on the Noah Hawley & crew's attention to detail, the incredible production design, why the series feels so much like Alien, the Peter Pan of it all, how the company angle of the Alien universe reflects our world, whether Boy Kavalier is ego driven (dude totally is - MC), and more. Is Jong as high on the series as Michael? Plus, the guys discuss the viral video of James Gunn and David Corenswet discussing what direction to take Superman's final speech, whether Marvel should release more behind the scenes videos like DC Studios has done with Superman, Marvel Studios quietly moving up another series without much fanfare, and the guys pay their respects to legendary actor Terrance Stamp who passed away at the age of 87. 
 
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
The vote must be unanimous, or it has therefore now
become your decision. You alone will condemn us if you wish,
and you alone will be held responsible by me.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Join us.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
You have been known to disagree with the Council before
yours could become an important voice in a new order,
second only to my own. I offer you a chance
for great ness, your l take it.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Join us. You will row down before me, your L.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
I swear it, no matter that it takes an eternity,
you will roar down before me.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
Both you and then one day you're as we started you.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
Oh, hello there, Internet, Welcome to issue six hundred Native
Comic Casts. I'm Michael Carroll alongside Jong Lee John. It
hasn't taken us multiple times to start this issue of Comiccast. Nope,
not at all.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
You know, there are technical difficulties at times, and we're
just working through them.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
Yeah, we're just you know, hanging in there and the
fixes leave and come back. That's all we all we got.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
We didn't touch anything.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
We didn't touch I promise we didn't touch anything. Uh.
Today on Comic Cast Alien Earth, we got to discuss
I wonder if Jong's as high on it as I
am we'll find out here in a little bit, as
well as the recent video that kind of went viral
last week with James Gunn and David cornsweat. But first,

(02:17):
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Mike nine seven five.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
And I'm at One Punch, And of.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
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(02:45):
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who does, but he respect. As I mentioned, we have
Alien Earth that we're going to get to, as well
as some other stories. But first I do want to
start off on a bit of a somber note in

(03:08):
that we learned of the passing of a legend this
past weekend. Terrence Stamp, the longtime actor who played General
Zod in Superman two. He's played Darrell in Smallville. He's
played a bunch of different characters over the course of
very long career. He passed away at the age of
eighty seven. It's undisclosed the reason the family did not

(03:31):
share that info. But yeah, sad news coming out this
past weekend that Terrence Stamp has passed away.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah, he long long career. Definitely know him from a
lot of different things besides the you know, work that
he's done for Superman. But yeah, definitely will be missed.
And yeah, it's a lot of celebrities dying this year.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
Sad year is He's an actor that maybe some people
may not recognize the name right off the bat, but
as soon as you see him, it's like, oh, yeah, Terrence, Yeah,
I know that, I know Terrence and his work. He
also did work on his Dark Materials, which I didn't
know there was a two thousand and three version of that,
of an adaptation of that, and he of course did

(04:18):
the most recent one as well. Not a lot. I
think it was just one episode, but still just man's
done a ton of work over in Hollywood for years
and years. So r P to Terrence.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Stamp spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert you can wound.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
Both of us have seen Alien Earth. Full spoilers for
the first two episodes of Alien on the Earth. If
you haven't seen it, tune away for a while on
this podcast before we get to some other stuff later on.
But Jong we you know, we talked about it a
little bit last week, and your hype level was up
a little bit for Alien Earth. What did you think

(05:04):
of the first two episodes of the show.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
I thought that was good to you know, okay to good.
I know you'll you'll, you might be a little higher
on it, but I liked it. It's a it's a
series where, or at least the first two episodes, you know,
one is getting me to watch more. And I really
didn't realize to me the Oliphon was in it until

(05:28):
I was like, wait a minute, that looks like Timothy
Oliphant with the white hair. But yeah, I thoroughly enjoyed
the first two episodes. Good scores on Rotten Tomatoes so
far ninety six review reviewers and seventy three percent audience.
So yeah, definitely something I will continue to keep watching.

(05:49):
But I think it has definitely potential and I am
going in this kind of blind. I the last thing
I've seen of Alien is Promethea, which is like a
long time ago, So I I am kind of blind
going into this. You know, I think Prometheus on the

(06:10):
timeline is like the very last thing, right.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
I don't remember the exact timeline, but I do know
disregard Prometheus, disregard Covenant, and disregard the Alien versus Predator
movies for Alien Earth.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Oh wait, wait, wait, Prometheus is like the first thing
is Prometheus, and then Alien Covenant, Alien Earth, Alien Alien, Romney, Romulus, Aliens,
Alien Three, and then the last thing is Alien Resurrection.

Speaker 5 (06:33):
Which we can forget Alien Resurrection as well. Honestly, if
we're going through the timeline, we could probably skip that one.
You could probably skip Alien three. I haven't seen that
movie in a long time. But Alien and Aliens watch
those wholeheartedly.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
Yeah, I need to watch Romneylus.

Speaker 5 (06:52):
Dude. It's so good. It's very very good. It it
it does with what I think this show has done
well so far is that it reminds me of why
we got into Alien and Aliens and all that. Like,
it just feels very much of the time, and I
think that's one thing that kind of blew me away

(07:14):
with Alien Earth, is that, especially the beginning, just the
way it's shot and the way it's handled. It just
looks like I was watching the nineteen seventy nine version.
With how well they did the set design, with how
well they did the cinematography, with how well they the
look and feel of the actors and actresses as they're
sitting around that table. It just was like, man, this

(07:35):
is like a blast from the past. The usage of
the font at the beginning, with how they write it
like it's an old school green and black computer, and
just I love the style that it's going for. And
Alien Romulus kind of does the same thing with different aspects.
Now it's not perfect because there is kind of a

(07:56):
problematic angle with the character that kind of have to
watch it and see for yourself. But for the most part,
I think it's a good continuation of the Alien story.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
Okay, okay, what are your thoughts?

Speaker 5 (08:10):
So I think what I just mentioned that was one
of the first things that kind of blew me away
with Alien Earth is that when I start the episode
and the green text pops up, and it's like, man,
that looks like seventies eighties and then you see the
sets and I'm just blown away by the look and

(08:33):
feel of the show because it just later on. I
think in episode two it feels less like that, but
Episode one specifically really felt like old school Alien and
Noah Holly understanding at the core of it what it
should look like and feel like. All the practical switches
and keyboards and everything like those those are minor, minor things,

(08:56):
but they they help build the world so well, I think.
And then establishing Prodigy Island or Neverland, if you will,
and having these I don't know if it would be
metaphor allegory of Peter Pan and robbing the youth of
children in this way by doing it with where we're

(09:18):
at currently in terms of AI and what's what's human,
what's not and all that. Like, I think it's interesting
ideas that they're setting up for and I like where
the show is going and building because I tried to
go into it without any too much knowledge about it.
I watched maybe one or two trailers and then that

(09:38):
was it. So it's I think it's helped my enjoyment
a lot because I didn't know what to expect. I
didn't expect all the kids to be downloaded into synth
bodies and all that. So that was an angle I
was not prepared for. But I've been I've enjoyed what
I've seen so far. And again I think the set

(10:00):
design is one of the key standouts here.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
Yeah, everything looked everything from Yeah, everything looked great on screen.
And you know, nowadays these TV shows have movie budgets
and even the a the alien looks great. Uh whatever
the thing was crawling on people that those looked great.

(10:24):
Those little hives looked great. I mean just yeah, it's
just you know, we're far from TV show graphics. Uh,
you know, we're not getting those anymore. We're getting you know,
movie budgets for almost every single episode. So it's it was.
It was fantastic. The first two episodes were really really good.

(10:45):
I you know, I you know, if I would have
to put a grade on it, like I think, you know,
between eight and eight point five, I you know, giving
leaving myself some room to to be blown away for more.
You know. The first episodes obviously setting for the story
and very interesting, like you said, very interesting way to

(11:05):
kind of lead into the kids. And I didn't even
think about Robin Hood. I mean not Robin Hood, Peter
Peter Pan. That's it. That's actually a great analogy. And yeah,
I'm looking forward to the rest of the season and
I really want to know where every some of the
some of the what do you call it, The motivations

(11:30):
for some of the characters are still a little bit mysterious,
So I'm interested to see where that kind of kind
of kind of goes. And yeah, I enjoyed the first
two episodes and I'm going to continue to keep watching.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
Yeah, I the whole Peter Pan angle of it all
was again something I was not prepared for, but it
like it makes sense once you start realizing what boy
Cavalier the billion or trillionaire rich, youngest rich person in
the world or whatever, and he, you know, taking these

(12:04):
kids who on surface, like it makes sense that it
would be a good thing to like where the kids
don't have to to die because they are having, you know,
some kind of illness or something like that. But still
when you look at it, it's like they're being put
into adult bodies, so you're already kind of robbing them,

(12:25):
robbing them of their youth and growing them out faster
than they can and then as they kind of go
into it in the episode, you know, they're not experiencing
the different hormones and things that you would get as
you naturally develop, So you're kind of rushing these kids
into into adulthood, especially sending them into the alien spaceship,

(12:46):
which I get why Wendy wants to do it, but
for the rest of them, they're just kids, and it's
just it's it's kind of scary for all of them, obviously,
because while they are super a certain extent, because as
we saw Wendy, she just jumped off a cliff like
it was nothing and landed in the race you and

(13:06):
then she's already halfway down the beach. But like those
seeing these kids trying to understand with what they're witnessing
with these creatures that are just terrifying and just murder machines.
At this point, I thought that was an interesting angle
to approach it, and how boy Cavalier comes in and

(13:27):
offering them this ability to go to Neverland, but similar
to the story, they can never go back home if
they want to stay, and that's ugh, that's heartbreaking.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Do you think he knows what they are?

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Like?

Speaker 4 (13:43):
He's he's like the smartest being on earth and Yeah,
I'm wondering if he knows what's on that ship and
what those what these aliens are.

Speaker 5 (13:56):
I don't. I don't think so. I think he simply
is just one with him and Utani Whalen Utani and
all that. I think it's just the battle of corporations.
And I guess capitalism to to that because they talk
about fighting each other. But in this in this era
that we are in, companies control everything, and it's just

(14:21):
insane and it's kind of scary when you think about
it in today's world how things are shaping up. But
companies owning planets and companies basically what was it, Whalen
Utani or Prodigy own North America and South America or
something like that. And they they kind of explained that

(14:42):
in the first bit, or one of them is explaining
it to another character in the first bit, and how
he missed social studies. It's like, that's insane that companies
are part of the social studies. But boy Cavalier feels
like he's just trying to capitalize on anything and everything
because he he says it's not about ego at all,

(15:02):
but it's now one hundred percent it's about ego. Bro,
Like you you can't admit it, but it is your
ego maniacal ways of trying to control everything, creating an
island that you're nicknaming never Land, wearing pajamas all the time,
Like that's just insane to me. You know, just different
aspects where I he's not in full control. The alien

(15:24):
ship is a new thing, but he wants those things
to study. But I don't think he realizes the full
extent of what he's dealing with.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
Yeah. Yeah, definitely it's ego driven in in wanting to
be the you know, be challenged. I think, you know,
he seems bored.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
I rolled so hard when he was like, I just
want an interest in conversation, Bro, get out of here.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
Yeah. And you know Wendy being potentially somebody that could
be that that individual, but you know, obviously she's too
young right now. But yeah, it's yeah. And then you
know they're obviously you know, taking it. I say that
they're treating them with kid gloves, but they're not, because
they're sending them off into that ship. So you know,

(16:08):
they want to treat them with kid gloves and know
how precious they are. But the one thing I found
weird was like they just like easily just gave in
and let them go onto that ship. I'm say, well,
if you're gonna if they're so precious to you, you
would probably not send all of them. Yeah, but do Yeah,
I think if anything, that was the only thing that

(16:28):
I had a kind of an issue with. But I
imagine I got to pull up the timeline. But this
is this the first movie that takes place on Earth
or the first alien property that takes place on Earth?

Speaker 5 (16:42):
Yes, I believe. So this is the first time we're
actually seeing this because everything else usually takes place on
a space station or another planet or research outposts whatever.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
Crazy.

Speaker 5 (16:53):
Yeah, where this is the first time we're actually dealing
with aliens on Earth. So it's it's an interesting place
to put them in. That's why you kind of have
to disregard Prometheus and Alien Covenant to a certain extent.
But I think it's an interesting place to set it up,
especially like seeing the Zeno Morph go through residential areas

(17:14):
and just murdering people.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
Yeah, and then this is like two years before Alien
and I'm wondering there could be there's an opportunity to
d age Sigoney Weaver and maybe put her in this
movie or in this heat color in a movie. But
it feels like, yeah, I mean, everything is built to

(17:37):
be movie quality. But I'm wondering, you know, there's an opportunity,
and I don't know if she's doing much work, but
there's an opportunity d Ager and put her in maybe
at the very end of I don't know how long
this is gonna go, but at the very end of
the series or season. So that's that's another cool opportunity
that they can do. I am wondering how if they

(18:01):
if if the alien escapes and just causes rampage everywhere,
And yeah, I there's there's a lot, a lot of
different ways that they could go with this. So yeah,
it's going to be I think it's going to be

(18:22):
pretty epic in terms of just just savagery by this alien.

Speaker 5 (18:28):
I mean, the alien was brutal in episode two with
wiping out the soldiers behind Moro at that one point
to the one that the uses the little, the smaller
mouth to just projectile into that dude's face and then
start swinging them around like a rag doll. And then
of course the party just decimates that like it's just

(18:51):
it was insane to see that carnage that the the
the alien could bestow upon those people in in that building.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
Those people, I don't think they knew that the ship crashed.

Speaker 5 (19:05):
They had no idea how. They are drunk. They are
drunk and high, and it's the only thing I could
think of.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
That that was crazy, because like, you know, the you know,
it crashed pretty hard.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
Yeah, there's a spaceship in your lobby.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
Yeah it's okay. Yeah. That was another part. I was like, Oh,
how did they not realize that the ship crashed and
they're just you know, drinking and you know, going crazy.

Speaker 5 (19:35):
Oh it's another earthquake. As I wear this like old school,
like I don't know, British style, get up whatever kind
of party. This is just insane. I do want to
go back to what you were saying about the sending
all the kids in. I do think that that goes

(19:55):
back to boy Cavaliers just inherent ego maniacal thing that
he thinks he can just pull things off, even though
it's not him doing it. I still think he just
he wants that glory, he wants that recognition of like
he's he's setting this new standard for where they're at
in terms of synths and all that, which I found

(20:18):
that to be an interesting angle that they're approaching with
defining synths, cyborgs, and hybrids. Which are the kids. We
see Moro who's a cyborg, we see Timothy Oliphant's character,
I think it's kersh I think that's his name. He's
a synth, and then we see the kids as the hybrids,

(20:39):
which going back to the Peter Pan analogy of it all,
I feel like Timothy oliphantse kersh is is kind of
like tinker Bell in some ways, just because there was
an angle of tinker Bell not liking Wendy, and I
don't think he necessarily likes the kids at all. Like

(21:02):
I think there's a bit of a disdain there for
for them and what they are and what they represent
for syns and humans and all that. Like, I don't know.
I don't know if because I don't know if he's
trying to convince Wendy that she is a synth at
the end of the day or if it's it's something else,
But there is like a just something where he just

(21:23):
hates it.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
Yeah, I think it's like a there's some hint of resentment. Yeah,
I think, Yeah, and you know, you know, and he's
just I guess a glorified babysitter.

Speaker 5 (21:39):
At this point.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
Yeah, I guess he's I mean, he's a manager. I
guess he's trying to coordinator. He's the guy in the chair. Yeah,
I yeah, I think there is. It's definitely coming off
that way.

Speaker 5 (21:54):
Yeah, it definitely feels like it. What do you think
of Morrow so far and his sole mission for a
whaling utani?

Speaker 4 (22:05):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (22:05):
Which one moro is, the one with the cyborg arm?

Speaker 4 (22:10):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (22:13):
What is his deal?

Speaker 6 (22:14):
Like?

Speaker 4 (22:15):
I think he I would imagine that he was just
programmed to bring the alien back to Earth.

Speaker 5 (22:24):
That's the thing like his He's so dedicated to the mission,
like to the point where it's I don't know if
it's fanatical, but it is to the point of, you know,
he he let the woman die behind him, didn't didn't
allow her to come in. He's more focused on Every
time he says mother, it's in reference to you, Tani,

(22:48):
so it almost I don't know if it's like a
religious thing or if it's like a just soul focus
is only serving the company at by all means and
all nature, because he's still part human at the end.
Of the day. You know, he has the face mask
that he uses for air when he gets into that
impact room. Like he's not complete robot like a curse

(23:11):
or like a like a windy So he's still human,
but he's just he feels more robotic than anybody else.
And that's kind of that that that part interests me.
And how Gung Ho focused he is on the serving
the mission throughout everything.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
Yeah, he didn't. Yeah, he didn't feel human at all
from just the way that he was acting. And and
I think, yeah, you're you're right. I think just you know,
I think the bigger, bigger question is like why does
you Tani want the Aliens? I know she wants to
ship back, but why does she purposely crash it on Earth?

(23:54):
Does she want Prodigy to go away? Like? Does does
she want because she knows what's on that ship?

Speaker 5 (24:02):
I would imagine, yeah, they know because they talk about
it in the first episode about what it took to
get all the species and everything.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
So yeah, so I would imagine that she wants to
recap it on Prodigy. And Moro's just kind of like
a kind of a vessel, kind of somebody that is
doing the deed, doing the deeds for her, someone that
can be on that ship in for I wouldn't say
those shipmates trusted him, but they you know, they they

(24:35):
needed him obviously because they're not they're going to sleep
and going in and you know, deep sleeping all that stuff.
And he's just programmed to be awake and drive the
thing and make sure everything is okay. And so you know,
he's taking orders, and the orders were to crash that
thing on Earth. So and I don't think it was

(24:56):
an accident that it was crashed on Prodigy and that
call from you Tanni to boy Cavalier, I don't know
how genuine that was because it seems like they don't
like each other.

Speaker 5 (25:10):
Oh no, very much, don't like each other.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
So I think it's probably a plan for her to
have it crashed there and for whatever, if she knew
or not, whatever was on board to basically kill everybody.
And you know, if you're not going to say this
is going to happen, but if Tesla, whether it were

(25:32):
to take that Amazon, and you know, there was one
less billionaire in the world, I would imagine that it
could get to that point. If there's all out chaos.
It's something very similar to this, so, yeah, it's not
very far fetched to theorize that she's behind the crash.

Speaker 5 (25:57):
See. Yeah, I took it more as they lost control
of the creatures on the ship somehow and that's how
they ended up, you know, just losing everything and crashing
because Moro wants to secure him. He doesn't want to
necessarily like just let him run run free. He's looking
for all the creatures because he tries to secure the

(26:18):
Xenomorph and then of course the soldiers disrupt that and
get eaten for it and just blasted for it. I
do think it's more of she's looking to just get
those to study him do whatever. You know, humanity always
trying to replicate or trying to like we could control
these beings, we could control these creatures and never can.

(26:39):
Like I wonder if it's more of something like that.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
Yeah, that could be a that could be a case.
I could see that for sure. Yeah, I thought he
purposely crushed it. Maybe not, Maybe I didn't. Maybe I
wasn't paying attention.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
Because also because he's also not necessarily driving it the
whole time, because he because he's part human, he still
has to go and cry of sleep as well, because
it's a what was it a sixty five year mission
or something like that. But the one I don't know
about is that mister Tang guy at the beginning, who
is just kind of staring at people like that. I

(27:16):
don't know what his deal is. I don't know if
he's a synth, I don't know if he's a robot.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
Like.

Speaker 5 (27:19):
I don't know what's happening with him, because he was
screaming like everybody else when we were seeing flashes of
what happened. But I don't know what the like. I
imagine we're going to get an episode where we actually
see how things fall apart on the ship and how
things go from there, waking up, they're four months away
from Earth, and then it's Moro sending them as best

(27:42):
they can to Earth and landing on Prodigy Island.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
Yeah, yeah, I think everything will start playing out a
little bit a little bit more. And I you know,
I know the story is focused mostly on Wendy and
you know, her saving her brother, but I think that's
I feel like that's more of a backstory. Yeah, Like
that's more of the kind of a kind of the

(28:07):
side quest, and I'm more interested to see where this
thing with boy cavalier and Utanio.

Speaker 5 (28:16):
Yeah, I'm very curious to see where that goes, because
like that was, you know, they're talking about lawyers and stuff,
but there's gonna be a point where it's more of
just this company's going to fight this company for the ship,
no matter, no matter what, and take it from civil
lawyers and things like that to hostile territory, as Moro says,

(28:37):
he's trying to secure things until they can get a
team down there to to further secure all the fugitives
as he points it. As he says, so where does
that go get? The The brother angle with Wendy feels
like it's it is just the I don't want to
say mcguffin. It was the thing to lead her into that,

(29:00):
into the midst of that, and of course you gets
him and then of course he's he's gone the next second.
I don't know if he's dead or not. I didn't
expect him to get knocked off of a building wall
or whatever it was, the hole in the wall or whatever.
So uh, we'll see. I assume he's still alive.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
Yeah, I mean you can't kill him off, kill him
come off. You have to come off later. It doesn't
make any sense. And then then yeah, then essentially you're
using it as a mcguffin and you're like, that makes
no sense. Yeah, I just yeah, I it like, I
feel like that's more. If he is actually dead and

(29:38):
she's on that ship because of him, and and you're
just using it as a plot device, I think that's
bad riding. So there, I'm like sitting here, if this
is a good show, there's no way he's dead.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
Right, No, I would imagine he's they've both just fallen
and landed on something or you know, the alien falls
farther or something like that. What's been the creepiest cree
so far.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
I don't know if it's the creepiest, but it's I
would be very very afraid of the small little warm thing, the.

Speaker 5 (30:11):
The eyeball one.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
Yeah, I'm just like, uh, it's they're really tiny and
at least you can, you know, keep your eyes set
on the alien. But the small little thing that'll like
drop out from the ceiling and just like it dropped
out of the ceiling and went in one of the
soldier suits in there for a while and then you know,

(30:34):
all of a sudden, you know, you know, when they
get tied up and you know they're back to back.
It you know, crawls out from you know, behind his
suit and then just goes for the eye and you
know like oh, and then it hops over to the
other guy.

Speaker 5 (30:49):
Yeah, that one. That one, the giant like kind of
like a mosquito, just sucking all the blood out of them,
like like when it was like done and trying to
squish away because it was so large from all the
blood it gorge. The eight the eyeball with tentacles creeps
me out because it goes from one eyeball to like

(31:11):
eight eyeballs, and it looks like the way it does
things is it inhabits the eyeball socket of whatever it's attacking.
Like the cat that we see briefly, it's inhabiting that
the eye socket of it and it goes directly for
nibs is eyeball and it's just like, oh, that's oh,

(31:33):
that's terrifying.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
Yeah. How indestructible do you think these kids are?

Speaker 5 (31:40):
I don't if we're if they're built like previous sense,
I don't think they're necessarily that indestructible, especially when you
run toe to toe with a with a xenomorph or
something like that or whatever that thing was that's like
hanging in the hall that was staring at that kid
like that, that thing would eviscerate them probably, Like they're

(32:03):
not I don't think they're to the level of like
what's a good android comparison?

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Vision?

Speaker 5 (32:11):
Yeah, they're not vision on not vision, They're not to
that level. They'll they'll get decimated pretty quickly. Like I
think they said something about the white blood or whatever.
You know that classic how when David or when oh
what's his name from the Aliens movies, when they when
they get shredded in half or something like that, they
just start bleeding white blood. Like that's they're gonna do that.

(32:33):
That's probably gonna happen to some of them.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
Yeah, I would imagine not all of them are going
to be making it out. The one that is with
Wendy I have a bad feeling about.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
Yeah, yeah, he's.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
Uh, he is just bad written all over.

Speaker 5 (32:53):
Him, suit extremely bad, like it's it's I think Wendy
and the brother probably the safest characters of the of
the bunch. The rest of them, everyone's on the table
like it. There is nobody that's necessarily safe. I also
appreciate all the all the kids are named after the
Peter Pan Lost Boys, like they all took their names.

(33:15):
Nibs Toodles I think is one of the names they're like.
I was starting to look it up and I was like, oh,
they took. They really are really embodying the Wendy and
the Lost Boys and Peter Pan and all that. Like
there is a strong like references to that I found interesting.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
I didn't even make it the connection.

Speaker 5 (33:37):
I didn't make the connection until like because I was like, man,
they really are like referencing because like, what was it
when Boy Cavalier first brings I think her original name
is Marcy or Macy, and he's like, you know, show
a magic trick and it's the roof starts showing Peter
Pan like the old school cartoon. And then I was like, man,

(34:00):
they're referencing that because I wanted to see if Boy
Cavalier is basically Peter Pan, and it seems like it
is because Peter Pan does some similar things that promises
them like if you come to Neverland, you know you
can be this and be that, And sure enough, that's
kind of what he's doing, and I wonder if it's
if it's him that's just loved the story because I

(34:21):
think he also quotes it at one point, and it's
just he's so obsessed with this idea of Peter Pan
and never Land, like all this things, Like it's it's
really like this dude's creepy about this stuff.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
Yeah, Yeah, that makes that would make a lot of sense. Yeah,
I didn't never connected the two, and now it makes
a lot more sense that this is a kind of
a rip off of Peter Pan. That's actually that's that's
that's that's a that's I really like that.

Speaker 5 (34:52):
Yeah, creepily creepily Yeah. Because again, and I do think
because I was like, yeah, tinker Bell's it's basically cursed,
I think I'm not like one hundred percent sure, because
I don't think it's Dame, Oh, the lady that seems
to be the only nice one there. I don't think
it's she's tinker Bell because she's actually trying to take

(35:13):
care of them and help them, and yes, tinker Bell
does that, but she also has a bit of a
disdain for Wendy at the beginning. So maybe it's it's
maybe it's a combination of the two Curse and Dame.
I forget the rest of her name. Uh, maybe it's
a combination of the two that formed Tinkerbell or some
way for this analogy to work. I thought, I thought

(35:34):
all that was interesting. And again that's that was an
aspect I was not prepared for. Also, again, the dude's
wearing pajamas all the time. Like that, dude, I mean,
I get it, Like, you're rich, you could probably do that.
Like when he's talking to you, Tani and he's barefoot
using this, he's holding the screen with his feet, like,
I guess that's what you do when you're super rich

(35:55):
and you're young.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
I mean, I would imagine he doesn't really leave much.

Speaker 5 (36:00):
No, no, not at all when you have this island.
But you know what was interesting too, is that for
as much as the glitz and glam of all this
that he that he's showcasing, there's still like terribleness when
you dive into the buildings and whatnot where it feels

(36:20):
more like the poor, Like you know, when they're search
and rescues going through that building. Some of it you know,
obviously it's damaged by the ship crashing, but still there's
like it felt like poverty, walking through poverty and walking
through different parts that are not all bright and shiny
like the rest of the buildings or the rest of

(36:41):
the area.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
Yeah, I mean, I think they do a good job
of kind of laying out like kind of what happens
if you know, companies kind of take over everything and
obviously like it's not good for it disenfranchises a lot
of people. And I think we kind of see that today,
and you know, it's a good it's a good reference

(37:04):
to kind of what we're seeing today, Like you were mentioning, like,
you know, like it's it's scary how you know, what's
crazy is like all these shows that we've been watching
recently have become like this allegory for what is happening,
you know now, Yeah, and this is just another one
of them. And I imagine that all of this was

(37:29):
written prior to this year, obviously, and it's just all
these showrunners and creators kind of saw this coming a
little bit a couple of years ago. And and how
scary close it is to we're on the brink of
something like this all you know, well, we can never

(37:51):
know if there's gonna be an alien attack or or what,
but you know, it's it's a the threat of the
government running d C, which you know was thank god,
you know, shut down by a judge. But it's you know,
that is a start to something that is you know,
the you know, there's rumors that it was going to

(38:13):
do that and hand it over to one of these
billionaires to run. And that is basically what this is,
right where businesses control everything, and when businesses control everything
and you have disadvanchised people in places, it's not they're

(38:34):
just going to you know, sweep it under the rug.
They're not going to fix it. And that's partially how
that not partially that's how businesses run. Where you're you
can get rid of a department, but you can't do
that to people, and so you just kind of shove
them aside. And yeah, they do a good job of

(38:57):
painting that picture, uh in this show and and all
the other shows that we've watched for the last year
or so. So it's uh, yeah, it's scary how close
it is to what could be in our distant future.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
Yeah you whaling you Tani and Prodigy and all that, Amazon, Apple,
like all these big corporations are like imagine them running
the search and rescue for something like that, because that's
what boy Cavalier is kind of doing not to the
not he's not in the weeds of it, but he
he's the one that they go to about the spaceship crashing,

(39:31):
Like that's disgusting. It shouldn't be a business person being
in the lead on that, because you know what his
sole focus is. As much as he says it's not,
it's money, it's greed, it's ego, it's all these things
that he's lying to himself about saying it's about, Oh,
I want an interesting conversation, bull, That's not what it's about.

(39:51):
It's you want the money, and you want the notariety,
and you want you want that ship because it's a
whaling you tani ship. That's why you want on it,
not because it's crashed on these people. Yes they've they've
a lot of people were luckily at this festival or whatever.
But you want it because it better. It's to the
betterment of your company, and that's that's why it's like, oh,

(40:13):
these these business leaders, there's a lot of connections to
today's world in a lot of ways. That's terrifying. So
hopefully this is not.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
A future yeah it's uh yeah, I mean hopefully hopefully
one can never know. It's not trending that way. No,
I take it back, it is training trending that way,
which is, you know, obviously terrifying. Yeah, uh yeah, I
do like the most of these shows have the ones

(40:48):
that have these deeper meanings and messages behind it. I actually,
I I honestly really enjoy and I think this is
gonna be one of those, And yeah, I can't wait
for the next one.

Speaker 5 (41:00):
One other thing that I wanted to highlight the music
I think has been really really good throughout because yeah,
I think at every moment, almost every moment, I feel
like there is still a sense of creepy and a
sense of dread that it creates. The only spot where

(41:21):
the music truly felt more heroic or more inspiring was
when Wendy and her brother Joe reunite. When that happened,
that that's when the music kind of reaches a crescendo
of good. But the rest of the time, even when
it's the scene where their kids are transitioning into their

(41:42):
synthetic bodies, like it just all felt like it all
just made it feel like there's a sense of dread
and a sense of unease that I really appreciated. Because
I was like, oh, this is gonna be bad. Like
there's just different things where it's like, oh, this isn't
gonna end well, Like there's just the way they were
able to set that tone with the music I thought

(42:02):
was very well done.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
Yeah, I think they do a very good job. Attention
to detail is something that they're doing very very well.
And I think for a show to become transcendent, I think,
you know, it all starts with the details in things,
and you know, this show is doing a very good

(42:25):
job of making sure the set looks good, that the
sound looks good, and the sound and design look good,
making sure that there's no well to this point, no
visual miscues, that everything directed well, everything looks you know,
everything looks and sounds good. And the you know, the

(42:46):
acting and directing are to come if you have a
good director, showrunner and actors and actresses, but you know,
just taking a bit and just making sure that everything
looks good and making sure you have no Starbucks cups
in the middle of a shot. Yeah, where it's not
supposed well technically, I guess this is a world where
you would have Starbucks. Yeah, I would imagine Starbucks is

(43:07):
one of those companies that owns a piece of land
and controls things. But yeah, it's uh, you know, attention
to detail shows that you care a lot about your product,
and they're doing that very well, and it's showing showing,
at least in the first two episodes.

Speaker 5 (43:25):
I just imagine a xenomorph with the Starbucks cup. It's like,
wait a minute, that's not right. That should be in
the shot. One other thing I wanted to highlight the
ship that crashes into the building. Its name is the
Maganot I think is how you say it. I'm not
like one hundred percent sure, And I was trying to
see if that meant anything, and the thing that I

(43:47):
could find that was closest to it, the Maganot line,
became a ubiquitous symbol of failure in defense planning. An
adversary that adapted its offensive strategy to bypass by the
line quickly rendered one of the strongest and most elaborate
defense networks the world had yet seen. Irrevelant, irrevelant. So
is the ship supposed to be that representation of ubiquitous

(44:11):
failure because of the crash land and everything? Maybe so, maybe,
maybe so we'll talk more about alien Earth as we
progress on. Can't wait. We're recording this the day before
episode three drops, so we'll be excited for that once
that releases tomorrow nights. Also we'll have later this week.
Peacemaker Season two premieres on Thursday, I believe.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
Yeah, getting a lot of good reviews on Litten Tomato
and Yeah, and then I think they're going to basically
be addressing how it ties into the Superman universe.

Speaker 5 (44:52):
Yeah, I found it interesting how I think it's James
Gunn that says everything that you see in the previously
on will be cannon to this universe. So Creature, Commandos, Superman,
Peacemaker season two, and then anything that's in that previously
on will be cannon to the rest of it. Moving forward,

(45:13):
And speaking of James Gunn, did you see jong the
video that released last week with the it's like the
behind the scenes of him and David Corn. So it
going over by the way, a little bit of spoilers
ahead for Superman. So if you want to tune away
for the next like five ten minutes, maybe tune away.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, you can wound.

Speaker 5 (45:44):
But did you see the video that released last week
of James Gun and David corn Sweat talking about Superman's
final speech that he gives to Lex Luthor at the
at the end of the movie.

Speaker 7 (45:54):
He starts saying, I just I don't know if I
feel this.

Speaker 6 (45:57):
The whole crew is sitting around waiting, like, come on,
we got let's shoe, let's get this done. So finally
I walked offset and to talk to him in person.

Speaker 7 (46:05):
He came in and came off set and we get
into this thing.

Speaker 6 (46:09):
So great, but the but the the am I am?
I am? I just demonstrating. So if I say that's
what it is to be human, that feels like I'm
I'm trying to prove it still as opposed to I
really know it.

Speaker 7 (46:24):
I think there's a little bit of it.

Speaker 6 (46:25):
I mean, okay, because let me let me try.

Speaker 7 (46:28):
The emotions are always lingering.

Speaker 6 (46:30):
But isn't there something the I felt like shit about myself.
Since the recording came out, it's just been like I
don't belong, I'm shit, everything's a lie. I'm not who
I thought I was. When when is is this not
the moment where I go I was wrong to feel
that way.

Speaker 7 (46:46):
That's exactly where the issue is, right because what he
didn't tell you was it was wrong to feel that way.
There are feelings and there are thoughts. Your feelings about
feeling bad are okay. It's not wrong for you to
feel that way. You should just it's not right or
wrong anything. None of it is right or wrong. All

(47:07):
of it is is being vulnerable and being human, being
a human being, And in this moment, for you to.

Speaker 8 (47:14):
Talk about how it's okay to be vulnerable, you have
to be vulnerable, which means showing Lex that your feelings
are hurt in the point when you really.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
That's where you've always been wrong about me. Lex, I'm
as human as anyone else. I love, I get scared.
I wake up every morning and despite not knowing what
to do, I put one foot in front of the
other and I try to make the best choices I can.
And every time you say that I don't belong, it
hurts my feelings.

Speaker 6 (47:46):
That's being human and that's my greatest strength.

Speaker 7 (47:57):
I got emotional a second ago because I really do
think that what this movie is about is why do
we love Superman so much? Is it because you can
punch planets or pick up skyscrapers. I don't think it is.
I think it's because it is innate goodness and his humanity.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
Whose position do you take? Do you take his guns
or corn sweats?

Speaker 5 (48:18):
I I lean towards gun, but I understand where both
of them are coming from.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
Yeah, I do too. I think if they went with
corn sweats more peaceful approach, I don't know, because I
because you know, we see what the end result was,
which is you know, Gun wanting him to be more
passionate about, you know, talking to Lex. I don't know
how that would have played out on screen. I you know,

(48:48):
we just I guess, we just don't know. But the
one we got on screen, I think I thoroughly enjoyed.
I'm surprised they didn't do both and then just went
with whichever one they thought they looked they liked better.
But they just shot the one.

Speaker 5 (49:05):
Yeah, don't. I don't mind the more passionate angle, because
I do think there was a sense of, at least
to that point in the movie, of him just kind
of letting loose on Lex Luthor, but in not in
a I'm gonna punch punch it out of you. I'm
gonna just let my frustrations be known at this point

(49:26):
and not necessarily frustrations because he still talks to him,
because I forget who brought it up. There's still a
bit of him Superman that still thinks Lex can be
good if he just utilized his smarts for goods. So
it's it's an interesting place to put him. But I
do like what James Gunn says shortly after they showcased
them going back and forth, is that people enjoy the

(49:51):
innate goodness of Superman and it's not necessarily all the
punching and kicking and all that, like, yeah, that's cool,
but the innate goodness that Superman has then can try
and see in people. And I think that scene still
highlights what we all thought of Superman very well.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
Yeah. Yeah, I think the way that he presented it
or on screen was he wasn't like shouting, but he
was passionate, right.

Speaker 5 (50:20):
Right, Yeah, It wasn't like angry shouting either.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
It was something that he felt deep within and and rightfully.
So he just went on this long battle with the
Ultraman and all your you know, ice agents, and uh, yeah,
I imagine that his I'd say Superman has a gentleman,
but you know that you know his he just came

(50:47):
off a long battle, so I would imagine he's feeling something,
and I think that was a good way to deliver it.
And I think James Gunn, without seeing Corn Sweit's version
the way he wanted to do it, I think I
want to say he did it. They did it the
right way.

Speaker 5 (51:04):
Yeah, I would agree, I think so. I think they
did it in a great way. And I like seeing
videos like this, you know, I just enjoy like the
the collaboration and the showcasing of them going back and
forth and how they make stuff. I'm glad that they're
willing to showcase all of this because I find this

(51:25):
all interesting. But not only that, you know, understanding where
they're coming from and understanding what they're thinking in those moments.
I always find that just fascinating because, like, to me,
even if you go into sports or other stuff, like
when it's two people that are in it, that are
in the know and they're talking about it at a

(51:45):
high level, I think that's the most interesting way you
can talk about things. And you know, you get so
many of the like in media in general, you get
so many and not even just medium was social media
and everything. It's all just these loud, hot takes and
da da da dah. But I like seeing the the collaboration,

(52:07):
the ins and outs, the understanding of this is what
I'm thinking for your character in this moment, or this
is what I was thinking when this happened or whatever.
Like I just I like that, And I like that
they're showcasing that with Superman because I've seen so much
behind the scenes of Superman after the fact that maybe
there is for like Fantastic Four in some of these
other Marvel films, but I haven't seen that really from

(52:29):
from Marvel, and I like that DC hasn't shied away
from that and just showcasing the behind the scenes I
think is really cool.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
I think we got a reason why they wanted to
release it on digital souh so soon. I think it's
because of Peacemaker. And you know, people, you know, if
you're gonna have a shared universe and you're gonna, you know,
go on and do Peacemaker next, I think you know,
you're obviously going to have to release it. And I

(52:58):
don't know why. I mean, if you wanted to keep
it in theaters long, I think you should have just
delayed Peacemaker. But you know, we're here, We're you know,
we're this is the bed that they made. But yeah,
I think all that stuff is cool. And I think,
you know, James Gunn himself is a very open person. Yeah,
he tweets in instagrams and everything's very very takes a

(53:21):
lot of questions and denies or confirms rumors, and yeah,
he's very open. I think that's it can get. It
can get a little eyebrow raising at times, but it's
also very refreshing to see somebody that is now in
charge of a giant studio being very open with fans

(53:43):
and openly denying or confirming rumors. I think that's cutting
out the middleman, you know, taking the scoopers away from everything,
and you know, doing that stuff. I think it's refreshing
at times. And I'm not going to sit here and
tell you that it doesn't work because just his comic
Blue movies hit. I don't know if he's I don't

(54:04):
think he's ever had a rotten comic movie.

Speaker 5 (54:07):
No.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
I think the lowest was I think the lowest Tomato
meter was Guardians three, which I found shocking. It was
like an eighty two percent. But yeah, I think you
know it's it's working. Don't change up a thing.

Speaker 5 (54:22):
No, I think again, that's that's helped make or keep
Superman in the headlines. Right, Like, the movie is released,
but it's still one of the top trending things because
we keep getting more info about it, we keep getting
like it's it's not been released, and then we forget

(54:42):
about it. There. I'm glad that it's stayed in our
in our thoughts and it's stayed in in in our
discussions because it's I mean, it's you know, I'm not
as high on it as others. It's still very good,
still four stars out of five for me. But I
I think about that movie more than I've thought about
Fantastic Four because there's just been so much news that's

(55:04):
come out of it after the fact.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:07):
Yeah, And just a side, I think both movies are
gonna finish under six hundred million worldwide, which a little disappointing.
And I mean, who knows what this would have done
if it continue to, you know, be in the theaters
for another month or two. But we'll never know. But yeah,
I don't know why Marvel doesn't do that. It's just

(55:29):
it's strange to me.

Speaker 5 (55:30):
Yeah, I like, I would have loved to have seen
Matt Shackman talking to Pedro and Vanessa and Hebon and
Joseph in different moments. Like, I think showcasing that collaboration
and showcasing those behind the scenes is not a bad
thing to do, Like I feel like it can only
enhance things, and in this case with Superman, I think

(55:52):
it's I think it's enhanced it. I think, like you said,
it's refreshing to see, like the secret secret of nature
of Marvel, I get it, but also like once something's out,
let's see what's going on. Let's see what's happening. And
I think they did that a little bit with Thunderbolts,
but I don't think they've done that as much. Maybe
I've just missed it. Maybe they have and I just
haven't seen it. Maybe I'm speaking out out of place,

(56:15):
but to me, it just doesn't feel like I've seen
that much from like Fantastic Four or even Brave New
World earlier this year. Like I just haven't seen it.

Speaker 4 (56:23):
Yeah, I don't think I've seen it either.

Speaker 5 (56:26):
It's just not something they I guess they it's just
not something that they do. I don't know. I think
it's I wonder if adjusting that style like yes, you
want to keep it secretive for you know what, honestly,
let me take that back. You know, what I've seen
the most of is Spider Man. That's what I've seen
the most of during the process.

Speaker 4 (56:44):
Yeah, And I think a lot of that has to
do with it being shot on location, Yeah, in an
open city.

Speaker 5 (56:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:53):
I think people are it's readily available to kind of
like snap and shoot and all that stuff. And I
think that's a testament to them wanting to get back
to shooting on location and using real world stuff and
not shooting behind green screen or blue screen and stuff
like that will definitely leak, and obviously this did and
the shots that came out of that were amazing, and

(57:17):
then the photoshops and all that stuff, and then enhancing
and Boss Logic doing it and taking it to another level.
I think that kind of stuff hypes up a movie,
and I think, like you were mentioning with Superman, it
continued to put it on the forefront, and I think
Fantastic Four kind of needs that, and I would imagine, like,
you know, this is one of your biggest movies to

(57:40):
start off this phase, and it's just it almost feels
like once the movie was done and out. You're just
kind of like, my hands are clean, we're gonna move
on to the next thing. Spider Man.

Speaker 5 (57:52):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's the Like I've seen the
commercials of the number one movie in the world, you know,
like those those types of things, but deep dives into
the behind the scenes of it all. I haven't seen
that with Fantastic before. I've seen that with Spider Man,
And like you mentioned, you get ahead of it because
it's being shot on location in front of a bunch

(58:12):
of people, and some of those shots I was joking
with Ashley Saunders, who's been on the podcast before that
it felt like album covers at different moments, like there's
a shot of a crowd of people and Spider Man's
on a tank, but it's behind the a shot from behind,
like it just looks like an album cover, like it's
just they look cool shots. And then when he's actually swinging,

(58:35):
like that's all cool. And I get why you showcase
that because you get ahead of the leakers and the
different people that are gonna be taking screenshots from however
far away and all that. But yeah, I feel like
I should have gotten more Fantastic four at this point
rather than Spider Man.

Speaker 4 (58:52):
Yeah, it's and I mean, I guess you're trying to
generate buzz with this new take on Spider Man, and
and they have, Yeah, I mean they have. I mean,
but then we're also, you know, sitting here complaining about
a marketing team that or agency whatever they use, that
has done such disservices to shows like iron Heart and

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wonder Man. So I mean, it's not that surprising. Yeah,
it's a little surprising because of how big Fantastic four
is and should be.

Speaker 5 (59:29):
Speaking of that kind of tying into that before we
wrap up, there is a Marvel show premiering next month.
Did you know?

Speaker 4 (59:40):
Is it wonder Man?

Speaker 5 (59:42):
No, it is Marvel Zombies. Remember that's all right, that's
happening next month. Apparently the release date is September twenty fourth.
The only reason why I found out was because somebody
shared a screenshot like that was it. I haven't. I
don't know that they've released a trailer for it. I
don't know that they've said much about it. But I
forgot it was a thing. I didn't realize it was

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gonna happen this year. But apparently Marvel Zombies releases at
the end of September September twenty fourth.

Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
Okay, so four episodes and I am reading this on
Reddit and it's saying it was originally supposed to be
a r Rady movie but then it got chopped into
four episodes because somebody forgot about spider Man writes issues,
Marvel gets to keep the tvm A rating and Spidey
through by doing this, only Sony can Only Sony can't

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portray Peter Parker, spider Man and rated RMA media without
heavy restrictions on what he could.

Speaker 5 (01:00:38):
Oh my god, I doubt they forgot it was a movie,
Like I forgot, I don't. I mean, maybe the creators did,
but I doubt it. You know, I think that's what
the whole deal was a spin off of what if?

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
I yeah, I hope that's not the case. If that's
the case, then you forgot about the It's.

Speaker 5 (01:00:59):
Just magic, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
You know it wouldn't put it past me, put it
past them that they forgot. This is the same studio
that chopped up Secret Invasion and gave it it, gave
gave it to us and so and and basically asked
us to eat it and like it. You know, I
really should have given up on that show. And I'm

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at this point where if I'm watching a Marvel TV
show and I don't like it, I'm just not gonna
watch it. I just I can't do anything. There's too
much stuff, good stuff on TV. Like if something were
to release now, I don't know, in between Alien Earth
and and Peacemaker, there's no way I'm making time for

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a mediocre Marvel show. And and then and then and
and like if Echo released now, no, I'm not sitting
through that. Yeah, it's just and and and honestly, and this,
I think this, this is a more how great or
how good Alien the first two episodes have been, and

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also how good I think Peacemaker is going to be.
If Dareduviel releases released now, it's third on my list.
Like it's yeah, it's like if I watched the first
couple of episodes and I watched Alien Earth, then I
watched Peacemaker. I'm basically prioritizing those three or those two
over Dared Level, even though I enjoyed Dared Level, but

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Dared Level I think was like an eight, and Alien
Earth I think has the potential to be better, and
I think from all indications Peacemaker is amazing, so I
you know, and even dude, and even now right now,
I have I've heard amazing things about King of the Hill.
I've watched half an episode and I've been like, this

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nostalgia is just hitting me and how amazing this comeback
is and how just against technology Hank kill is. They
took it like a their version of uber and he
was just like, what's going on and all this sudden
I was like, oh my god, this is such a
Hank Hills thing to do. And Piggy's like, oh, what

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do you what do you speak? And I think he
was speaking Arabic and she goes, I know Arabic and
she starts speaking and he's like, that's not Arabic. Like
that kind of stuff is hilarious to me, but I
don't have time to watch it. And so yeah, like
I'm prioritizing that kind of stuff over mediocre Marvel stuff.
I mean, and I finally got to that tipping point.

Speaker 5 (01:03:33):
Yeah, No, it's understandable. I mean, they forget who I
was talking to about stuff like this. But it's there
is such like every week, there's so many things releasing,
and there's a point where we just there's no way
we can all keep up with all that stuff, and
we have to make choices, and especially like you, with

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all your responsibilities being a parent on top of that,
like you, you have to be picky and choosy, right.

Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
Oh for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:04:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:04:02):
I just I just don't have time to, you know,
sit through mediocre stuff. And even like the show shows
that I love, the Bear, like, the season was not
great and I we binged it in a few days
because it's only you know, I think only one episode
is like an hour. The rest are like thirty minutes,

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and I'm like, next season. Whenever the next season comes out,
I'm like, obviously, I'm not going to make it, you know,
a giant priority. You know. It's I love that show.
I love all the characters on that show. It's just
it's become a little stale, and I will finish whenever
I think we'll finish out the run of the whole

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entire show. But I'm like, I'm not gonna, you know,
sit through and make it a priority to watch this thing,
even though it's a very easy watch. And like shows
like Wednesday, I'm like, oh, it's out ten episodes an
hour apiece. Yeah, I might I might. I might watch

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that a year later, or we have nothing to watch.

Speaker 5 (01:05:11):
What are you gonna do when Stranger Things comes out?
Every episode is like a movie.

Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
Yeah, I mean, I think we'll dredge through that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
I think.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
I think that's different because it's gonna be like a
cultural social thing where everyone's gonna be talking about it.
So I think that's something will probably end up watching.

Speaker 5 (01:05:30):
We probably will, I just don't know when because the
first one releases the day before Thanksgiving and then what
was it Christmas Day or whatever, and then New Year's
Eve or I think is how it was going. So yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:05:44):
Yeah, I'm just not looking forward to the holidays because
it just makes me extra tired.

Speaker 5 (01:05:48):
Yeah, understandable, understandable. And also, Jong, I'm here, so you
don't have to suffer through mediocre stuff. I'll take I'll
take it. I got you.

Speaker 4 (01:05:59):
Yeah, I can do this. I'm looking forward to those
one two star reviews on letterbox. But you post those
things on social media. So oh, and I was gonna
mention this before we wrap up, but just aside to
kind of put a bow on Demon Hunters, it was

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recently revealed that Sony spent one hundred million dollars making
the film, and they sold it to Netflix for twenty
million dollars. I'm not a I'm not a math person,
but I think Sony and Sony lost eighty million dollars.
Which Sony doing Sony things, producing something that's great and

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then underselling it by eighty million dollars is on brand
for Sony. And Netflix retains all the rights to everything.
And apparently those limited screenings that they released for singlelongs
this past weekend, yeah, they're selling out.

Speaker 5 (01:06:58):
So and Netflix is getting the cat the cash on that,
I'm guessing, yes, so yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
Uh, let me let me look up a box office
Mojo real quick and see if they if they even
post the numbers from this weekend. I don't think they
did because it was such a limited release. Yeah that
there's no uh, there's no, there's no postings. Oh no, No,

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the event is happening this weekend. Oh there twenty third
to the twenty fourth, which I guess. I think whoever
creator I was watching must have gotten some misinformation. They
were saying it just sold out a lot. But yeah,
I imagine that these the single longs are going to
be quite a hit.

Speaker 5 (01:07:50):
Oh for sure, that and the one time where I'm
okay with people just having a ball in the theater
will be K Pop Demon Hunters, because yeah, that those
songs top tier, and that's gonna make some money this weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
Yeah, and I think it's on track to become their
most watched movie of all time. Which Red Notice?

Speaker 5 (01:08:11):
Really? I don't no, that's on Prime video?

Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
No Red Notice?

Speaker 5 (01:08:17):
Yeah? Oh wait, no Red Notice? I forgot there's Red
Notice in Red One? My bad?

Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
Yeah, the movie with Ryan Reynolds, a Rock and Galga.

Speaker 5 (01:08:26):
Yeah, Red Notice.

Speaker 4 (01:08:27):
Yeah, like that is your number one movie of all time?
It makes no sense to me, I mean, the most
watched one. I'm like, oh, I hope that this passes
it and.

Speaker 5 (01:08:37):
Just steamrolls them. I hope so too, because yeah, Red
Notice not good? Also Red One not good?

Speaker 4 (01:08:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:08:46):
So all right, Well I'm gonna go listen to some
K Pop Demon Hunters. But as always, you can follow
us on social media. I'm at producer Mike nine and
One Punch. I don't have any one star rating reviews
just yet. I just have a nobody to review. That's
all I got right now.

Speaker 4 (01:09:04):
I heard it was okay, Yeah, it was great.

Speaker 5 (01:09:07):
It was it's fun. It's if you liked the first one,
it's definitely tweaking on the formula that worked and just
more absurd action. Also, this is my what I would say,
hot take. I think Rizza has the best kills in
that in those both those movies.

Speaker 4 (01:09:24):
I'm just saying, I wouldn't doubt it.

Speaker 5 (01:09:31):
Did you see the first one?

Speaker 4 (01:09:33):
No, I haven't.

Speaker 5 (01:09:33):
Uh, it's good, it's good. It's not it's not John Wick.
It's like a little bit more. It's absurd action, of course,
But and so I get people comparing it to John
Wick at times, but it doesn't go into the full
board like Assassin World or anything like that like John
Wick does. It's more about a man and his family

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and discovering rediscovering his love for his career and then
and then the second one, it's how to balance his
career with his family.

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
So, uh, just a weird off the off the cuff question.
Do you think Rizza had the best post Clan Wu
Tang Clan the career?

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
Hmmm?

Speaker 5 (01:10:18):
I yeah, longevity.

Speaker 4 (01:10:22):
I think I think so, because he's been acting. Yeah,
and I you know, the easy answer is to go
method man. Yeah, but I think I think Rizza has
done a lot of different things.

Speaker 5 (01:10:34):
Well, and I think too with method Man, it was
like really like he peaked, but now it's it's like
lower budget stuff and Rizza is still like doing like
like of course like nobody too, like he's still out there.
So I would probably say Rizza.

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
Yeah, I don't know if I would have said that
about ten to fifteen years ago, but I think he's developed.
And no, I mean, I'm not gonna sit here and
say like they've been great, but he's kind of out
there so and you've seen him do every now and
then really good stuff. Yeah, but yeah, I just I
don't know, I just I just kind of like you said, Rizza,

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and I just kind of just I just I don't
know why, it just it just had that question. I
just thought about it.

Speaker 5 (01:11:18):
Well, he's and he's done so much, like not just acting,
but whether it's helping films or helping other stuff. There
is a and I think Rizzo's helped work on it.
There's a video game coming out that's based on the
Wu Tang clan, and it's it looks really good. It's
not just a whatever video game from like years past.

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This is a actual good rhythm type but action adventure
type game that that the Wu Tang clan is doing.
So yeah, there Wu Tang Clan forever, I will say, uh,
thank you all for listening to this issue of Comiccast.
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Speaker 4 (01:12:05):
See it