September 3, 2025 • 58 mins
The guys are back to discuss the delay of Mortal Kombat 2 to 2026, is it a bad thing that the film was delayed? Could it be an issue releasing a week before The Mandalorian and Grogu in May of next year? Plus, the guys react to the news from D23... wait... actually the non news (be careful of all the fake posters/trailers that have emerged after the event. Then the guys dive into full spoiler reviews of Alien: Earth Episode 4 "Observation" and Peacemaker Episode 2 "A Man is Only as Good as His Bird"
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You can do this.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
You want you. Oh, hello there, internets, Welcome to issue
(00:39):
six hundred and ten of Comic Cast. I'm Michael Carrol
alongside Jong Lee and Jong. I have to start with
this because it's a it may be a little too personal,
but I have to ask if we can cut it
out if we need to out of the podcast. But
do you or I don't know someone you know suffer
from bird blindness.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I know somebody who does, I don't know them personally,
but no, I don't know anyone personally that suffers from
bird blindness.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Okay, well that's good. That's good. It can be debilitating,
especially when you're going bird watching and stuff like that.
Is that a parent? Is that eagle? You never know?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
The only thing you can tell about hummingbirds is that
they left their wings really really hard. But other than that,
they look like a giant pterodactyl.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Well, we're gonna talk about bird blindness on this episode
because that was one of the things I did not
expect to love so much from this latest episode of Peacemaker.
There was another question I was going to ask you
from this episode, but now I forget I should have
wrote it down. But yeah, bird blindness. Be careful out
there if it affects maybe I don't know one in
five hundred million people, but you know, you never know.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
There's a lot of little jokes in there that make
me chuck a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Oh yeah, this episode especially, and we'll get to it
here a little bit, as well as the latest episode
of Alien Earth, episode four. And I have some news
that we won't want to bring up right at the
beginning before we get into our reviews for today. But first,
as always, you can follow us on social media. I'm
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at nine pm. So Joeng, as we mentioned, we'll talk
Alien Earth, we'll talk Peacemaker. I did bring this up
(02:47):
to you right before we started recording, because it was
news that came out late last week, mid last week
whenever it was, I guess it was Friday when it
came out. And that is Mortal Kombat two has been delayed.
The movie was set for October of this year, has
now been pushed back to May fifteenth of twenty twenty six.
(03:09):
Let me start with this. Did you I don't remember
if we talked about the first Mortal Kombat when it
came out way back in like twenty twenty one. Did
you like the first one? The I guess, the most
recent version of Mortal Kombat? Did you watch it?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I did watch it. I thought it was okay. I
thought the story with you know, Scorpion sub zero was
a good storyline. And you know, there are certain things
that you can do so much you can do to
a movie like this that I don't think it would
ever call something great, Like when you take a story
(03:47):
like this, you can john Wick it up and see,
you know how that goes with everybody and just you know,
trying to see how crazy you can get with the fatalities.
And I think that maybe should have been the way
that they went. But know, they created a new I guess,
a new original character within the movie, which I thought
he could have probably been a little bit more ope,
(04:08):
but he was okay. Yeah, I mean I thought the
the story was okay. It wasn't like the greatest. You
could maybe call it mid but it wasn't the worst.
But yeah, I you know, it's uh, it was okay, Yeah,
it's it's fine. It's just yeah, it's fine.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
It's fine. It's Mortal Kombat. I mean there, You're not
gonna get Oscar worthy performances or anything like that. Nothing
against the actors and actresses, because I do like like
Lewis Tan and some of the other the cast members.
Obviously a lot of people didn't care for the Lewis
Tan character, which I can understand, and seemingly the movie
itself and the and the producers and director and everything
(04:49):
understood that as well, because Lewis Tan is taking a
back seat on this this go around in Mortal Kombat too,
and Johnny Cage played by Carl Urban seems to be
the focal now for this new one. Now, the new
one was again It was sept for October of this year,
October twenty fourth. It being moved to May fifteenth, to
(05:11):
me signals confidence in the movie, because I don't know
if I'm crazy in this thought gong, but May feels
like a bigger movie month than October, right.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Oh for sure. Yeah, it's summer and then fall.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
It's exactly. And that's why I like I mentioned it
to you. I saw a sentiment online of oh, the
studio doesn't have confidence and dah da da dah and
oh they're whatever. I don't what what are you talking about?
The movie? The studio has more confidence in it than not,
because if it didn't have confidence, if it got pushed
(05:51):
to January, that means the studio doesn't have confidence, right, Like,
January is a dead month for movies, and usually it's
whatever movies that are released in jail Anuary.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Typically yeah, typically, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Typically not all the time, but like typically it's movies
that you know, they come and go whatever it is.
But when you get into May, like that's the beginning
of summer, that's some of the biggest releases of the year.
Sometimes like a Marvel Studios. Now Marvel doesn't have a
release in May. They them and Sony have their release
in July with Spider Man Brand New Day. But you
(06:26):
move into May's that's prime movie going time, especially with
Memorial Day weekend and all that, you have way more
confidence in it, and especially with as this story was
first reported by Deadline, and the second movie had a
record with their trailer views for the Red Band trailer
(06:47):
with one hundred and seven million global reviews. If you
if they stayed in late October, they would have to
deal with the Jeremy Allen Bruce Springsteen movie, which I
don't know that the the demo the viewers are gonna
necessarily intertwine on that. Maybe they do a little bit,
but still you got people going to that, probably as
(07:07):
well as another Calleen Hoover feature film. Regretting you. So then,
as the article mentions, Halloween can be difficult because while
a lot of people are out enjoying things, they are
not necessarily going to the movies. They're going to a
lot of parties and things like that, and they're also
probably seeing a lot of horror movies if anything.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Oh for sure. I mean, I guess you could say
that this was mean, it's a not a bad month
to put it, just because of you know, it is
an easy movie to watch, and you know, it's a
you know, you turn your brain off kind of thing,
and I guess it cans you know, surround itself with
(07:49):
the Halloween theme. But yeah, I mean, moving into the
summer for a ip like this makes a lot of sense.
Some are obviously blockbuster movies, and and if they're getting
a lot of you know, critical not critical fan, a
lot of fan you know, buzz around the movie, it
(08:09):
just gives it just kind of shows the studio hey
like like we're moving into summer. I think that fans
are gonna actually, like really really enjoy this. We have
a star in the movie that is more well known
than Lewis Tan for sure. I wouldn't call him a
list but you know everyone you know there there are
people that won't go watch the movie because Carl Urban
(08:33):
is gonna be playing Johnny Cage. And also the fact
that you know, moving bumping it almost a year, oh man,
it is almost a year, like nine months, nine eight
nine months, bumping it that long. We'll give the studio
time to polish up CGI and anything else they need
to do, an additional reshoots. And like I said, I'm
(08:55):
a firm believer that if you can have, you know,
if you can get more time to work on a
project to make it better. I think this goes for movies,
TV shows, video games to a certain extent. I'm looking
at you, stranger things to a certain extent, I will say,
go ahead and do it, and if it is an
(09:15):
underlying reason why you're delaying it until next summer, yeah,
go ahead and do it now.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I will say I am surprised that it's not releasing
at the beginning of the month rather than close to
the end of the month, because, just based off a
quick Google search of releases coming out next year in
May May fifteenth, Mortal Kombat two and a titled project
called is God Is And I think there's a Neon
(09:41):
unrated film that's scheduled for that day as well. But
May twenty second, the following Friday, the Mandalorian and Grogu
comes out, and that I would imagine is going to
do gangbusters when it comes out. So I'm surprised not
giving Mortal Kombat a little bit more time before Mandalorian
and maybe releasing it May eighth or May first feels
(10:03):
like that would have made more sense just looking at it.
But I don't know. But that's probably the biggest competition,
and to move it against the Star Wars movie that's
little like I don't know, Warner Brothers. That's that's a
dangerous task to be asking of this film.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Do you think that movie crossed the six hundred billion
like a Mandalorian Gogu.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I I could see it being five hundred to six hundred.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Yeah, I just you know, you know, if you decided
to do it after season one, Yeah maybe, I just
that there's no momentum. I don't think season three was
so flat.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah that's true.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, It's just I you know, you do have a
you know, big name with Pedro Pascal, who's just gotten
bigger since Mandalorian season one. But I don't know, like,
I just almost feel like they wasted season two and
three mapping out how they're going to create a movie
(11:07):
out of this, and I'm just like it was such
a big mistake. And season three, you know, I I
love Katie Sakoff, but season three he took a back
seat to both Grogu and to uh what's her name, Yeah, Bocatan. Yeah,
I was blinking the name. But it's just I I
(11:30):
don't know, like you, I there's no season four, right,
It's they're going straight into the movie.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, they're going straight into the movie.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
It's such a big mistake. I don't know. I I see,
if I had to put my money on it, I
say they don't cross six hundred billion, And I almost
feel like six hundred is kind of like now the
new billion dollars on the ilands, say billion, but eight
hundred is probably like the new billion mark, like a
(11:57):
really like.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Over the top success type of thing.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, like six hundred I think is like you did well.
I just don't think they'd get there.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I do wonder It'll have been three years since we've
seen Grogu and all that, so I wonder if the
lack of not having new Mandalorian Grogu content maybe helps
generate buzz for the film since they haven't been around
in our Disney Plus libraries for a while.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah. I don't know, because I think outside of the
main like you know, titled Star Wars Star Wars movies,
they just haven't been doing very well.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah, yeah, that's true. I mean it is a different
I mean we've talked about it with like Thunderbolts and
other stuff. It's just it is also just a different
movie going experience now, And like you just said, eight
hundred million is now the new like high bar outside
of of course some special movies that come out here
and there, but it is a different front atmosphere in
(13:02):
terms of movie going that we're in now, people are
waiting for at home, or just waiting in general, or
you know, just whatever the case.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
So, yeah, outside of the Rise of Skywalker, the last
non Skywalker movie was Solo, and that did three hundred
and ninety two million worldwide, almost three hundred and ninety
three in which you could say the budget barely making
the budget back at two hundred and seventy five. And
(13:31):
you know, you couple that with like marketing and all
that kind of stuff, you may have not even made
your your initial budget back. And I want to see
how much Rise of Skywalker made, but it's a it
doesn't I don't think does very very well. Outside of
the Skywalker, Rise of Skywalker did a billion. And then
(13:53):
before that, Rogue One was the was the other movie
and that one, you know, oh that one hit a
billion dollars. Wow, I did not know that.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I remember that.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, domestically and internationally it was kind of like it
was fifty to fifty. It made a twelve million more
domestically than internationally. It made five hundred and thirty three
million domestically and five hundred and twenty five million internationally.
I did not know that this hit a billion dollars.
That's crazy. I thought this wasn't It wasn't seen by
(14:27):
many people, but it Yeah, and maybe I'm fifty to
fifty on this take, but but I almost because I
just don't know how well. I think it's a bad
thing that they've waited three years in between the movie
and the like. I just it'd be different if season
three was like one of the best seasons of a
(14:51):
TV show ever. Yeah, but I just think it was very,
very mid and forgetful.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I do wonder if because with the Star Wars films
like Rogue one and still with like Force Awakens and
all that, it felt very much like a big event
type movies happening. You know, it was our first time
in having a new Star Wars movie. And however, long
back in twenty fifteen with the Force Awakens and then
the build up with Rise of Skywalker. While for me
(15:20):
it was not a great movie, it still was a
big event Star Wars is happening all this and that
I wonder if Mandalorian and grogu Is still looked at
in that same way because we have had Mandalorian Ahsoka,
Book of Boba fett Obi Wan, we've had a lot
skeleton crew. We've had a lot of Star Wars content
(15:40):
since then, so it's not like we haven't had any
like we did leading into Force Awakens and all that.
So do they view it as just simply a Hey,
it's Grogu and Mandalorian. I know them from the show.
I'm gonna go watch them. Grogu's cute. I'll go watch it.
You know, is it gonna be something like that? Is
it gonna be looked at as an event? You know?
I guess we won't know until we get closer to
(16:01):
the film and how it projects.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, I just I don't Yeah, I don't know. Like
I guess we'll see, but I it doesn't feel like
it's going to do well.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Something that happened this past weekend was kind of staying
with Disney in a way. Is that D twenty three
happened this weekend? And honestly, I don't think anything was
major from that. You know, did you see any big
news that you would want to talk about or anything?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
And no, not necessarily.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, same with me. I didn't really see anything. The
biggest thing that came out of it was, yes, they
did show some sort of sizzle reel for Avengers Doomsday,
but it was quotes and clips from previous films. It
wasn't necessarily footage or showing footage from Avengers Doomsday set.
(16:55):
The Russo Brothers did have a recorded message that played,
according to reports from D twenty three. But the biggest
thing is be careful because a lot of fake stuff
came out of that, and fake poster, a fake sizzlereel
of fake this a fake that. There's a lot of
fake stuff coming out of D twenty three, So just
be careful and just double check where the source of
(17:16):
the info's coming from. The only other thing that I
noticed or saw any news of was Vision Quest seems
to be the name of the show, the Vision series
that's coming next year. That's about it. So that's all
I wanted to mention about D twenty three.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
I mean, I guess that's kind of what we expected.
I honestly have no and maybe it's because it's not close.
I mean, it's not around the corner, and the shows
that you've been releasing on Disney Plus over the last
couple of years haven't been great. I just don't care
(17:54):
right now, understandable, Yeah, I mean, and I'm sure a
lot of people feel that way too. There's no lead
up to this, there's no lead up to anything. It's
just it's just it's it's random, uh it you know,
it's just random series being released in Yeah, there's no
(18:17):
cohesiveness with this, this saga. It's just it's it's I
don't know, like we're supposed to care about some of
the characters that appeared earlier early after Endgame and that
which haven't shown back up in a very long time.
And then you know, Vision's been gone what since it
(18:38):
was a pandemic twenty twenty one, twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Twenty twenty one. Yeah, at the beginning of twenty twenty
one was when.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah it was one a Vision. Yeah, so you're you're
asking us to wait five years in between appearances. Yes, sure, okay, cool,
Like I I don't, I don't know. I almost it's
the same thing I think I feel about this then
I feel with with Mandalorian. It's it's it's there, it's
(19:09):
going ahead release, people are gonna watch it. I absolutely
not hyped at all for anything that's coming out MCU
related on Disney Plus because they they almost make it
seem like we shouldn't care because they don't market their
their products either, which you know, you know, you know
(19:30):
makes me a little upset too. So yeah, well, if
you don't care about these products, why should the viewers.
You know, you know you treated you treated Reevey Williams
and Ironheart like trash. It's actually a halfway decent show,
(19:51):
and you're asking us to care about Vision, which we
haven't seen since pandemic days.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Cool, and then of course we have Wonder Man later
this I think it Disamber this year, so uh, eventually
we'll get a trailer for that at some point. Now
we do have I think we have X Men ninety
seven next year, so that will be something to look
forward to.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Oh man, he uh bo de Mayo on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
That dude's wilding out.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
That dude, it's a it's a thing he has. He
has his own opinions on Kevin Figi and in company.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
He has a lot of opinions.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
What I won't get too much into it, but if
you want to know his opinions about Kevin Figie and
Marvel Studios, you can go over to his Twitter account.
I think it was it was a week or two
ago where he kind of went off and talks about
how they don't treat the source material properly and how
nobody reads the comics and they get told not to
basically read the comics or fall of the comics. So
(20:46):
it's uh, and he's not surprised that the products have
been feeling because of the direction that it's it's it's
a whole thing. You could we could probably spend thirty
minutes just reading through his tweets.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, that dude, that dude, don't don't stop talking. We
won't go into the Bau de Mayo territory. What we
will go into is our spoiler reviews for Alien Earth,
the latest episode for that, and of course Peacemaker season two,
episode two. Now, if you haven't watched either of those shows,
or maybe you've watched one and not the other, skip
ahead to whichever show you've watched, or skip the rest
(21:22):
of this issue, because that's all it is. The rest
of the way.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
And I guess we'll start with Alien Earth because that
is actually we're recording this on Tuesday, September second, so
episode five is releasing tonight, so I can't wait for that.
But the latest episode observation released last week, and it's
(21:55):
it's more of a One of the common criticisms I
saw was that it was more plotting than some of
the other episodes. I didn't mind that for me. I
really enjoyed where this went in terms of direction and
in terms of what it's building towards with all our
different characters. What did you think of the latest episode
(22:17):
of Alien Earth?
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I didn't mind it either. You know, I guess people
will call it a filler episode, but you know, I
do think that there are times where you do need
to take a step back and you know, add in
layers of just character and world building and just kind
(22:39):
of explain to your viewers what's going on. I just
I don't I mean, I don't really mind it that much.
And it's I think just getting into getting into too
many of these will be will become an issue later on,
because you know, obviously we're dealing with eight episodes. This
is half your essentially. Now we're at the halfway point,
(23:02):
so yeah, I expect it to pick up the pace
really really quickly. The next episode is titled in Space
No One interesting title to say the least, just because
we know it's two years two years prior to the
original Aliens movie. So anyway, but I don't you know,
(23:22):
I didn't mind it at all. You set up the
you explain that you know, Wendy can talk to or
understand or hear, you know, the the Aliens, and and
they kind of hone in on like trying to get
(23:42):
her to you know, that frequency, and which I didn't mind.
You explained more what's going on with her brother and
why you know, Wendy wants to keep her brother around.
And then now they're you know, essentially having something over
his head to make sure he stays in line with everything.
And then and then the whole moral thing I think
(24:07):
is very fascinating too. And now there is no I
would say, there's no gray area with him. Now I
fully think he's in. He's a full an antagonist that
will do whatever it takes to get things done.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I uh, they're setting up things to go awry for
Boy Cavalier and the people on Prodigy, So it's going
to get pretty chaotic, I would imagine. And then and
then you know it's uh, yeah, it's gonna be interesting
going forward.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah, going back to what you said about the episode
five title, I believe it's going to be the episode
that show us, shows us what happened on the maagine
of the Beginning ship that we saw briefly and just
saw the destruction, So we're gonna see what happened to
make everything go bad real quick. H I want to
go back to something you said in terms of just
(25:03):
you know how it's building and everything, because it made
me think of one of the things I wrote down
is there is a world where Noah Holly just tells
an elongated alien movie right where they're just in space,
they're just dealing on a ship and it's just them
humans against aliens. Like there's a world where that's the show,
(25:25):
and that's probably fine, But I like that they're taking
risks by having these things with hybrids, having her Wendy
be able to hear the Zeno morphs, and on top
of that, actually pet one by the end of the episode,
Like it's it's just wild like risk taking that Noah
Holly and the rest of the group is is doing
(25:46):
with this, And I love that risk factor that he's
bringing to Alien and doing something different that I definitely
was not expecting. I was just looking forward to more
Alien content, and now he's introduced like new aspects to
the to the world, new characters, I mean, this company,
like all these different aspects that I really enjoy the
(26:08):
direction we're going in, and this episode felt very much
like a building upon that, and it didn't really like
click for me until the second viewing of it, in
that the very very beginning of the episode, when they're
doing the previously on and they're showing clips of the
previous episodes, but it's the cameras zooming in on a
(26:28):
baby doll head that's just laying on a beach, just broken,
and it was like, I didn't know what to make
of it upon first viewing, but then upon second viewing,
it's kind of clicked in that this was a lot
to do with a loss of innocence with a lot
of these characters and a lot of these kids, because
(26:51):
a lot of them are being just pushed into adult
situations very very very quickly. Of course, these were like ten, eleven, twelve,
thirteen year olds at that and they're being treated as
if they're well, some are being treated as just property
and while others are just being treated as adults right
from the jump. And one of the saddest aspects of
(27:13):
that is the manipulation that a lot of these adults
are doing to these kids. Moro doing what he's doing
to a rouge or slightly in manipulating him to get
him one of the eggs to Boy Cavalier manipulating both
Windy and Curly kind of pushing Curly making her feel
(27:35):
less than Wendy in a lot of ways, and Wendy
being pushed to possibly distrust her brother to probably Smee
and Isaac are the ones that are like most chill
with everything. They haven't really been pushed in different ways.
I guess Isaac to a certain extent, with just researching
(27:56):
all these different creatures and things like that, you could
say maybe it has been pushed in that direction. And
then of course Nibs, who has had a traumatic experience,
who's now like just freaked out and claiming just wild stuff.
It's just it's it goes to the do you think
these are machines or do you think these are kids?
And if they're kids, this is just sad seeing the
(28:19):
manipulation that adults have in this world for these kids.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Yeah, I mean, I you know, I you know, I
think and her brother makes a good point about like
you know that are they kids or are the machines
because he talks about how, you know, their minds are
essentially kids. You know, they're little kids trapped in these
robot bodies. And I think I wholeheartedly agree with him.
(28:43):
I think they're they're physically, they're you know, they've given
they've been given in an upgrade and a new a
new new lease in life. But they're just kids. I
I fuollheartedly believe that they're just kids. And I don't, uh,
I don't think that they're they're still you know, mentally,
(29:05):
they're still human, and I still think that they're human.
So that's what I mean, that's my belief.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, And I think I think they're they're human at
the end of the day, because you know, Moro has
that great question and I think it is episode three
when is a machine not a machine?
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
These are, Yes, they are machine bodies, but the consciousness
aspect of it. Maybe you've tricked an AI to think
it's this human kid, but with the way they all
act in or it's their human consciousness inside these bodies,
so to me, that makes them human. And I think
I think that's how they're they're reacting to situations like
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to me, it's like I love see it's a little like, oh,
we could do that like read books and things in
this way and just having fun like that's just a kid,
Like that's one hundred percent just a kid. And of
course you have these other ones that are doing more
adult things with like learning French or learning biology and
learn this and learning that, and yeah, it's not quite
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the same. But I think Dame Sylvia and a lot
of the others have under estimated or are a bit
naive to the what they've actually done to these kids
and how big of a change this all is to them.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Oh for sure, you know, I think that's one of
the reasons why they were you know, they could have
been you know, they were so hesitant into taking all
of them onto the ship. Yeah, you know, And I
think in his name, boy Cavalier is very cavalier with everything,
and he thinks he's smarter than everybody, which you know,
(30:37):
you know, he's will he will find out the I
guess the hard way that it's it's not you know,
going to be that easy. So yeah, I think, you know,
Kersh is the one that should be the one kind
of making all these decisions because I feel like he's
(30:59):
you know, he really does like to observe, maybe a
little too much and not take enough action. But yeah,
I think I do think that he should be the
one kind of calling the shots instead of boy Cavalier.
And we may not have this situation if although we
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may not have had most of the stuff on the
ship seized, and it might have been more chaos if
boy Cavalier didn't send all of them in. Yeah, but
you know, just I guess we're if we're talking decisions
and not our outcomes. It's not the best decision when
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you really look at it. Not the best decision to
send a bunch of little kids into to stop whatever
you think was going to what was happening at the time,
or I guess like monitor what was or I guess
go do reconnaissance. We all kind of see the signs
of deviation as the the season is kind of playing out,
(32:08):
and each one of these what do you what are they?
What are they're not androids? What are they called?
Speaker 2 (32:14):
The hybrids or the synths?
Speaker 1 (32:17):
The sense their sense, right, Wendy and all them.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, well they're more hybrids because of the human consciousness
in a synth body.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, so so I think as the episodes are playing out,
we see deviations from you know, all of them. They
all started off kind of like the same, kind of
getting to understand their bodies and how everything works. And
now we kind of see the personalities coming out, which
is why I think they're all like they're all you're
you would consider them to be human, just with you know,
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the the bodies of a synth. But yeah, like you know,
I think you see the just how everything is kind
of playing out, and you'll see more deviation as as
the season goes on, and you know, it almost seems
like Nibs is gonna go crazy and go brogue and
just start killing people and uh, and then slightly is
(33:12):
probably gonna get in trouble because you know, obviously Kersh
knows what he's doing. And and then you have what
was it? What was what name did? The Aaron is
the toodles, Oh, Isaac Isaac Isaac uh and he's he
seems very loyal. So all of these, all of these
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you know, hybrids are going to develop their own unique
We're going to get a sense of what they are
as the season plays on.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Well, and they also still don't realize what all they're
capable of right, like the even nibs, like jumping on
to Dame Sylvia, like like she was able to do,
and Dame Sylvia realized, oh snap, she could kill me
right now with ease, because they're in these super powerful
synth bodies, like they just they're finding themselves. But they
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did not give them time to find themselves at all, because,
as you mentioned, boy Cavalier goes Cavalier and just sends
them in because he sees as I think, I forget
who said it in one of the previous episodes, ooh
a new shiny thing. Let me take this now and
just mess with it. And yeah, we may have ended
death and we have immortality. They were out towards immortality
(34:25):
with these new synthetic bodies or hybrid bodies, but I
got aliens now, so let me just mess with these things.
And yeah they're dangerous, yeah they can kill and all
this and that, but I want to see what happens.
You know, It's just it's it's just one. It's obviously
the downfall of everything's gonna happen at some point sooner
rather than later. But also just boy Cavalier just an
(34:48):
insane egomaniacomaniac that thinks of everything as property. Like he
never refers to Joe as his name. He always refers
to him as the brother and like tells Wendy, you
can keep them if you do this. You know, it's
like just like everything's a transactional thing with him, and
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everything is just his property. He says it towards the beginning,
it's my world. He just lives in it. And I'm
sure that's how he've used anything. And everybody hints, why
hints why he doesn't wear shoes. He's just in his
house all the time.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Oh for sure, for sure. He just uh, yeah, I
do want to see more of a backstory on him
and how he became, you know, the way he is
and maybe maybe it's maybe uh maybe it's one of
those things like the Joker where we don't need one.
But yeah, it's just fascinating the way he just thinks.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
The line that Dame Sylvia gives of yeah, yes, he
breaks the rules, he takes risks. Maybe that's why he's
so far ahead. That's called enabling, Dame Sylvia. That's the
Oh it's fine, just let me look away. I was like, mmmm,
that's what a lot of people have done in our
current world, and we'll see how that goes. So yep. Also,
(36:05):
I like the line from Arthur who said we took
minds of children and put them in synthetic bodies. That's
not theoretical. I mean, if we do this wrong, best case,
we've got a bunch of ais running around thinking they're human.
Worst case, we killed six kids, Like, yeah, that's one
hund percent what you just did. Possibly, Yeah, the worst kids.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
The worst case he killed six kids. Yeah, we're still
pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
That's pretty bad. And I think Dame Sylvia is still
kind of naive to the whole situation. And then of
course when she has the the talk with Nibs about
the pregnancy and all that, that's when it's like, oh, snap,
we have messed up. Now we have a level three
event and all that. I I I wonder with kersh
(36:51):
with like you mentioned him earlier about him observing and
because he knows what's happening with slightly, but he hasn't
done anything to stop it. He sees what's happening with Wendy,
he sees what's happening with the alien. He's hees like
he's seeing all these things happening, and I wonder if
he's just gonna let the chaos ensue, you know what
I mean, Like, is he simply just going to observe
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everything go down in a in a in a burst
of fire, or is he going to actually do something?
Because the more I feel like when he interacts with
boy Cavalier, it feels like he has a disdain for
boy Cavalier, Oh for sure. So I feel like he
could just say, you know what, let it burn. I
don't care. I'm just observing.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah, I mean he has it has some thoughts about
boy Cavalier, and yeah, I don't think. I don't think
they're all he has his I guess alternative motives and
I don't. I guess we don't really know what they
are yet. But yeah, it's fascinating how he just sits
there and watches and just plays a long game. He's
(37:55):
waits and waits and waits and he does. He's doing
it with with boy Cavalier, he's doing it with uh
with slightly and so yeah, very interested.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah, I'm surprised that he hasn't because that makes me
think he like he has more autonomy over everything, Like
he's not just a mindless robot obviously that we're just
doing whatever, right, like he him observing, knowing because he
could hear Moro in slightly like he he knows things
are happening. And after Moro has the talk with slightly
(38:33):
threatening to him to get to the eggs and get
a person to just stand by the eggs and let
it happen, he goes into the cage with the eggs
and unlocks it and touches it. So it's like, is
he gonna just let it happen? Is he gonna let
slightly do this to maybe capture Maybe it's a it's
a route to capture Moro, or it's something more of
(38:55):
I'm gonna let this prodigy stuff burn because I think
this is a stupid thing to do. I don't know,
like it's a fascinating dynamic with Kersh because I don't
know where he leans at any point throughout this episode.
He's I think he's very fascinated by the aliens and
studying them like he you know, when they do the
sheep scene, which I want to get to the sheep
scene here in a second, Oh freak. He's talking about
(39:20):
the aliens highly intelligent. You know there is some sort
of connection there, but in a different way, not like
Wendy's connection, but there is like a connection of discovery maybe,
like I don't know, Like I find kersh very fascinating
so far in what he could do. Also, only a
egan manhiacal maniac would get jealous of an alien staring
(39:41):
at another person with Boy Cavalier getting the alien's attention
in that sheep scene.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yeah, the sheep scene definitely very freaky, and we kind
of understand why that alien is shaped the way it does.
Basically replaces the eye and just takes over the it's
a parasite and takes over takes over the host. Yeah,
(40:12):
very creepy. And it would get ventured, to say, foreshadowing
of what could possibly be coming. And I guess maybe
I imagine it's going to take one of the hybrids,
And I can only imagine how much damage it could
(40:34):
do if it takes a body of a hybrid, especially
especially since it's you know, these hybrids that are so
genetically modified and they're killing machines, they could be killing machines.
It's gonna get very very ugly.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Yeah, the way he cause he the alien that I
forget what they call him on the on the podcast
the Official Alien Earth Podcast, because there's the name it.
I'm just gonna say, I ie monster Alien. It focuses
on Cursh and Isaac at first, so I don't know
if it's simply like I wonder if it since it
(41:11):
is highly intelligent, does it know that there's more to
Kersh and Isaac in them being not a flesh you know?
You know what I mean, like, does it realize that
they're more than that? And possibly why it goes after
nibs or does it just go after eyes? Like does
it just go after eye holes? No matter the situation?
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Yeah, it's uh, yeah, I may. I mean I think
it the way that the way that it looked was
that it went after eyes. But I guess I don't know.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yeah, with the way it went after nibs, it went
straight for eye hole and it was going to like
mess with rip her eye out, I guess, which you know,
if it does, like you mentioned, if it does go
after a hybrid, and if it does rip out a
hybrid's eye, is it able to take it over? Like
you know, it seems like it takes over the nervous system,
(42:07):
but can it does it get into the eye and
then realize, oh, crap, I can't take this over.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Oh. Also, we learned that Snuggies, well we ice age
we knew from previous episode as cannon to the Alien Earth.
Now we know Snuggies are are part of the alien cannon.
With the discussion with Joe and the higher executive, I
forget his name, and I don't know. I kind of
thought blankets with sleeves are okay, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
I unnecessary shot at Snuggie, but.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Snuggy Snuggie didn't need that stray straight shot at them,
Like I don't know any other points on Alien Earth
before we move on to Peacemaker.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Uh no, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Yeah, I think that wraps up all my notes. So
let's jump to Peacemaker Season two, episode two. A man
is only as good as his bird, and well Dong
Eaglely is freaking terrifying. Eaglely has the standout action sequence
of the of the show so far. I just I
(43:16):
realized John Cena fought John Cena in the last episode,
but Eagerly ripped out a guy's eye like that was insane.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Yeah, and then did a giant dive onto mister I
don't know what birds are birds birds in meadows. But yeah,
it's another solid episode. You get some character backstory on
the Chris that died in the other universe. You get
(43:45):
some jealousy about you know, what he has he has
in that universe and what he doesn't, and then we
get a little bit of foreshadowing of it may not
look as green on the other side as we think,
but Chris, I don't think realizes that. You know, the
audience gets kind of a hints that he has some
(44:08):
kind of drug problem, and you know, there's some issues
stemming from you know, things that are happening in that
universe with Hardcourt, and it looks probably looks like they're
broken up in that universe. Ye, But yeah, I fully
enjoyed the episode. It's it's an easy watch, it's funny.
(44:29):
I think right now has a pretty high bar at
this moment going forward to the rest of the season
because the first two episodes have been really, really good.
So yeah, I've been enjoying it so far.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Yeah, this one is another one where it's it's not
necessarily that a lot happened, it's more so just understanding
better of where these characters are at and like you
mentioned with Peacemaker, you know, he's struggling with this world currently.
And then, of course he discovers in the last episode
(45:03):
the Earth two or whatever you want to call it,
where Peacemaker, his brother, and his father are heroes and
that's a nice world to live in. But it freaks
him out. He runs back, of course, you know, kills hisself,
and in this episode, I think there's a chance for
him to maybe abandon that universe completely and just live
(45:28):
out his normal life on the regular Earth that he's in.
And he tries to reach out to Harcourt in the
in the party scene, and she pushes him away further
makes him depressed in his own way, and that's when,
like you said about the well, for him, the grass
is greener on the other side in this other universe.
(45:49):
Maybe I could go live out my fantasy life in there,
since I'm not able to achieve it here with Harcourt
pushing him away, with so many things just happening that
are bad, I want to be a I want to
be this, I want to be that. Maybe now I
can actually do those things in this universe. And that
seems where drunk Peacemaker ends up by the end of it,
and of course it's gonna blow up in his face
(46:11):
as all things would, but were understanding how broken he is,
how broken Harcourt is even at a bio and economists
a little bit. And then of course Benje Lancey's just
hanging out happy to be there.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Uh yeah, I uh, which this is a side the
actor that plays him. Uh, people are really rooting for
him to replace Fryan Reynolds does Deadpoole, which I could
I could totally see. He's He's a tremendous actor. Uh
fits that role very very well, and I could see
him playing a character like Deadpool.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Anyway, but yeah, everybody has their own issues, and you know,
I think, uh just kind of goes to echo just
real life. Everybody has stuff that they deal with and
and I think we can a lot of people can
take snippets of everybody, all the characters in the show,
(47:10):
and and kind of relate to them somehow.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Right.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
So you know, there are people out there that will
drown their sorrows and sex and booze and drugs, which
is like Christus. And then there are people that work
through you know, especially now where they may be in
a job that they dislike or even hate, but they
are saying because grass isn't always greener, and the crippling
(47:37):
anxiety prevents him from you know, switching jobs. And we
all have relationship issues and we all want to get
in sometimes just to feel some something you you hurt
yourself like, there's a lot of these traits that are
not great and that is very harmful to us that
(47:58):
we all experience. And I think they do a very
good job at showing and showcasing how people can struggle
and how people deal with it, and maybe they'll adjustice
towards the end of the season where there's some kind
of resolution for all of these characters or some of them,
(48:18):
and maybe by the end of the season, whether it's
having a final break with your girlfriend and having a
you know, clean breakup and moving on, or whether it
is finding a new job, or whether it's finding your
happy place and not getting into bar fights or getting sober.
I think some of the stuff will probably get resolved
or you know, will have some kind of slightly happy ending.
(48:42):
But I really do love the complexities of these characters,
and you kind of bottle all of them up together
and it can be one person. It can be you.
You don't have to have all of these things that
are about you, but it, you know, can be a
(49:03):
therapeutic experience for somebody that is going through some trauma
and that kind of thing. And I think they do
a very good job at this. And James Gun's always
done a good job at making us care about these
care about characters and just humanizing everything. And I think
he again, I think he just nails the you know,
nails it out of the park.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
Yeah, he's done a great job of balancing you know.
Of course it's over the top, crass and and bombastic
with some of its like absurd moments, but at the
same time, it hits you in more emotional moments with
like you mentioned with economists mentioning about his his crippling anxiety.
It's kind of done in a goofy way with them
(49:42):
both being him and out of bio being drunk at
that moment. But still it's like, oh, that's sad. You
got Chris dealing with his issues. You got Harcourt who
both him, both her and and Chris are not yet
able to fully admit their problems, and so they're they're
hiding it in different ways. And of course, you know,
(50:03):
Chris is taking it out with you know, drugs or
numbing it with drugs, alcohol and sex and all that,
whereas Harcourt is numbing it through violence and through bar
fights and everything. And Chris actually sees the pattern that
she's going through, calls her out on it, and she's
unwilling to admit it, and she realizes she's he's caught
(50:24):
her in that, and again she's will unwilling to admit
that she is down in the dump. She's even you know,
they have that brief shot when she after she snaps
at that poor woman in the pharmacy, she has that
brief shot of looking up at the cashier wanted sign,
and it's like she's reached so rock bottom to this
point that she is considering seemingly, for a brief moment,
(50:46):
seemingly considered considering to be a cashier for this pharmacy.
Probably can't after you yelled at somebody, But she is
willing to do that, and she's not realizing the damage
that she's doing by not confronting her problems and admitting
the problems that she has with of course, seeking fights
out to just feel something. I was listening to the
(51:09):
official podcast, and Jennifer Holland described her character as a
cutter who is cutting to feel things, and it's I
can see it. After she mentioned that, it's like, yeah,
I can the bar fights are the cuts.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
Yeah, it's She obviously is suffering through some things because
of the loss of her job and just the drastic
change that's happened over the last however many months or years,
not even years, right, it's probably months.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
Yeah, it's probably months. I would say, like eight months
or a little more.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
Yeah, So yeah, she's still yeah, she's still dealing with
how to do things without being a part of an
organized I guess group that is, you know, that has
its own agendas. She needs structure and she doesn't have it,
and she's yeah, she's taking it out and trying to
(52:12):
feel something that she feels when she's in the field.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
Yeah, she's completely lost that structure at this point by
being basically blacklisted, it seems like, through via Amanda Waller
blacklisting her and not being able to work for one
of the big agencies or Argus or anything, and then
without a bio. You know, she left off in a
(52:38):
happy place with her and Kia, but then when you
get here, it's completely broken down. And with her, it's
again the problem of I don't know that she's fully
admitting that whatever she decided to do fractured her relationship
with Kia, and I don't know that she's willing to
(52:58):
admit that. Yeah, maybe going after the dreams of running
her own thing or doing her own stuff put everything
in danger for her personal life. And because those two
seemingly are completely broken, Kia being feeling like they're over
with whereas at a bio feeling like, oh, we're not over,
(53:19):
we're just on a break. Well, Kia doesn't see it
that way, and you probably should talk it out, but
of course nobody talks it out.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
No, nobody does. And a lot of like, like I said,
a lot of real life stuff stems to a lot
of people don't like talking about things and they find,
you know, they find they drowned them some alcohol and
drugs and sex and violence, and like like it's being
petrayed on the show.
Speaker 2 (53:46):
Yeah, yeah, and there's again it goes back to this
was a strong episode for showcasing all the the hardships
that and problems that all these characters are facing currently
and unless like there is moving with the plot of
figuring out about the multiverse door that that Chris has,
(54:06):
and of course Flurry Tim Medals, who, by the way,
tremendous addition in this season and from the bird blindness
to ginger cool to to just everything that he him
and interacting with anybody given everyone nicknames like just insane.
But I loved what Tim Metal's brought to it. You know,
he really brought the goofy over the top parts of
(54:28):
this episode and really did a fantastic job, and so
we get a little bit of that. But this again,
this this episode is more focused on character, which I appreciate.
At the end of it.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
Yeah, it's it's been really really good. Uh and you know,
the jokes weren't as far in between, uh were I
guess a little fewer far fewer from in between. But
I think they've done a good job of balancing that
through the entire entire couple of entire two up episodes.
(55:00):
In I it's it's it's one of those shows I
think you should watch pretty quickly every time it's released.
I think it's it's getting to that much must must
watch kind of type of show.
Speaker 2 (55:12):
Yeah, And then of course now that Peacemaker has made
the decision of I'm going to live out my fantasy
life in Earth too, I would guess or the next
episode is focused on that fantasy life and how everything's
going well for him. There probably the brother Keith and
the dad are going to see some cracks into is
(55:33):
this the same Chris that we've known for however long?
Like this seems weird? So and we know there's something
more there because they when they're talking about like can't
find it, can't find Chris, they say something to the
effect of is he with that girl again? Is he disappearing?
So this Chris also has faced some sort of problem
(55:54):
in his own life that he's not recognizing and will
uncover what that is in coming up. So, but I
imagine this next episode is all about R Chris Chris
one living out his best life in this in this
other universe.
Speaker 1 (56:09):
Yeah, yeah, and just I would imagine there's gonna be
some chaos and havoc that he causes and people, like
you said, people are realizing that he's not who he
was supposed to be. And I would imagine that it
might be pretty easy to tell. And yeah, I am
excited to see where this goes.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
Yeah, And the only other thing I was going to
bring up is, of course, the very very beginning of
the episode, Rick Flax Senior, we learn how he finds
out about what happened to his son and what happened
with Peacemaker, of course that part being being Cannon and
Quarto Maltese being cannon, and of course what happens with
the fight with Peacemaker and everything. So we learned that,
(56:52):
and he's very.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
Pissed, rightfully, so his son died because of him, so.
Speaker 2 (56:58):
So we'll see how that goes. Of course, with the
situation with Eagley and everything, we I would imagine they're
going to go in more so guns blazing in the
next episode. And I think it's hinted on the preview
for next episode that that Argus is going to go
more guns blazing this next episode. So we'll see where
that goes. We'll see where the rest of the story
(57:21):
takes off with Chris and living his life and Earth too.
But any other points on Peacemaker episode two before we wrap.
Speaker 1 (57:28):
Up, No, no, and John Cena doing a good job
with this character, and just a little shot at the rock. Yeah,
I don't think the box office is the reason why
you're not getting these serious roles. But you know it
is what it is. You know you've been passed by
John Cena and Bautista's best wrestler turn actor. So yeah,
(57:51):
it's not a skill.
Speaker 2 (57:53):
Issue, bro, now John Cena, like fully, it is a.
Speaker 1 (57:58):
Skill issue, bro, It's not as a box office issue.
Speaker 2 (58:02):
And John Cena has been He's really done very well
with the acting and his the emotional moments, the sadness moments.
He's really done a great job with all of that.
And I'm very impressed with where John Cena. He's a
long way away from the days of the Marine and
(58:23):
all that for sure. Well, that's going to do it
for issue six hundred and ten of Comiccasts. Thank you
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
You want you. Oh, hello there, internets, Welcome to issue
(00:39):
six hundred and ten of Comic Cast. I'm Michael Carrol
alongside Jong Lee and Jong. I have to start with
this because it's a it may be a little too personal,
but I have to ask if we can cut it
out if we need to out of the podcast. But
do you or I don't know someone you know suffer
from bird blindness.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I know somebody who does, I don't know them personally,
but no, I don't know anyone personally that suffers from
bird blindness.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Okay, well that's good. That's good. It can be debilitating,
especially when you're going bird watching and stuff like that.
Is that a parent? Is that eagle? You never know?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
The only thing you can tell about hummingbirds is that
they left their wings really really hard. But other than that,
they look like a giant pterodactyl.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Well, we're gonna talk about bird blindness on this episode
because that was one of the things I did not
expect to love so much from this latest episode of Peacemaker.
There was another question I was going to ask you
from this episode, but now I forget I should have
wrote it down. But yeah, bird blindness. Be careful out
there if it affects maybe I don't know one in
five hundred million people, but you know, you never know.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
There's a lot of little jokes in there that make
me chuck a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Oh yeah, this episode especially, and we'll get to it
here a little bit, as well as the latest episode
of Alien Earth, episode four. And I have some news
that we won't want to bring up right at the
beginning before we get into our reviews for today. But first,
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at nine pm. So Joeng, as we mentioned, we'll talk
Alien Earth, we'll talk Peacemaker. I did bring this up
(02:47):
to you right before we started recording, because it was
news that came out late last week, mid last week
whenever it was, I guess it was Friday when it
came out. And that is Mortal Kombat two has been delayed.
The movie was set for October of this year, has
now been pushed back to May fifteenth of twenty twenty six.
(03:09):
Let me start with this. Did you I don't remember
if we talked about the first Mortal Kombat when it
came out way back in like twenty twenty one. Did
you like the first one? The I guess, the most
recent version of Mortal Kombat? Did you watch it?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I did watch it. I thought it was okay. I
thought the story with you know, Scorpion sub zero was
a good storyline. And you know, there are certain things
that you can do so much you can do to
a movie like this that I don't think it would
ever call something great, Like when you take a story
(03:47):
like this, you can john Wick it up and see,
you know how that goes with everybody and just you know,
trying to see how crazy you can get with the fatalities.
And I think that maybe should have been the way
that they went. But know, they created a new I guess,
a new original character within the movie, which I thought
he could have probably been a little bit more ope,
(04:08):
but he was okay. Yeah, I mean I thought the
the story was okay. It wasn't like the greatest. You
could maybe call it mid but it wasn't the worst.
But yeah, I you know, it's uh, it was okay, Yeah,
it's it's fine. It's just yeah, it's fine.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
It's fine. It's Mortal Kombat. I mean there, You're not
gonna get Oscar worthy performances or anything like that. Nothing
against the actors and actresses, because I do like like
Lewis Tan and some of the other the cast members.
Obviously a lot of people didn't care for the Lewis
Tan character, which I can understand, and seemingly the movie
itself and the and the producers and director and everything
(04:49):
understood that as well, because Lewis Tan is taking a
back seat on this this go around in Mortal Kombat too,
and Johnny Cage played by Carl Urban seems to be
the focal now for this new one. Now, the new
one was again It was sept for October of this year,
October twenty fourth. It being moved to May fifteenth, to
(05:11):
me signals confidence in the movie, because I don't know
if I'm crazy in this thought gong, but May feels
like a bigger movie month than October, right.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Oh for sure. Yeah, it's summer and then fall.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
It's exactly. And that's why I like I mentioned it
to you. I saw a sentiment online of oh, the
studio doesn't have confidence and dah da da dah and
oh they're whatever. I don't what what are you talking about?
The movie? The studio has more confidence in it than not,
because if it didn't have confidence, if it got pushed
(05:51):
to January, that means the studio doesn't have confidence, right, Like,
January is a dead month for movies, and usually it's
whatever movies that are released in jail Anuary.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Typically yeah, typically, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Typically not all the time, but like typically it's movies
that you know, they come and go whatever it is.
But when you get into May, like that's the beginning
of summer, that's some of the biggest releases of the year.
Sometimes like a Marvel Studios. Now Marvel doesn't have a
release in May. They them and Sony have their release
in July with Spider Man Brand New Day. But you
(06:26):
move into May's that's prime movie going time, especially with
Memorial Day weekend and all that, you have way more
confidence in it, and especially with as this story was
first reported by Deadline, and the second movie had a
record with their trailer views for the Red Band trailer
(06:47):
with one hundred and seven million global reviews. If you
if they stayed in late October, they would have to
deal with the Jeremy Allen Bruce Springsteen movie, which I
don't know that the the demo the viewers are gonna
necessarily intertwine on that. Maybe they do a little bit,
but still you got people going to that, probably as
(07:07):
well as another Calleen Hoover feature film. Regretting you. So then,
as the article mentions, Halloween can be difficult because while
a lot of people are out enjoying things, they are
not necessarily going to the movies. They're going to a
lot of parties and things like that, and they're also
probably seeing a lot of horror movies if anything.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Oh for sure. I mean, I guess you could say
that this was mean, it's a not a bad month
to put it, just because of you know, it is
an easy movie to watch, and you know, it's a
you know, you turn your brain off kind of thing,
and I guess it cans you know, surround itself with
(07:49):
the Halloween theme. But yeah, I mean, moving into the
summer for a ip like this makes a lot of sense.
Some are obviously blockbuster movies, and and if they're getting
a lot of you know, critical not critical fan, a
lot of fan you know, buzz around the movie, it
(08:09):
just gives it just kind of shows the studio hey
like like we're moving into summer. I think that fans
are gonna actually, like really really enjoy this. We have
a star in the movie that is more well known
than Lewis Tan for sure. I wouldn't call him a
list but you know everyone you know there there are
people that won't go watch the movie because Carl Urban
(08:33):
is gonna be playing Johnny Cage. And also the fact
that you know, moving bumping it almost a year, oh man,
it is almost a year, like nine months, nine eight
nine months, bumping it that long. We'll give the studio
time to polish up CGI and anything else they need
to do, an additional reshoots. And like I said, I'm
(08:55):
a firm believer that if you can have, you know,
if you can get more time to work on a
project to make it better. I think this goes for movies,
TV shows, video games to a certain extent. I'm looking
at you, stranger things to a certain extent, I will say,
go ahead and do it, and if it is an
(09:15):
underlying reason why you're delaying it until next summer, yeah,
go ahead and do it now.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I will say I am surprised that it's not releasing
at the beginning of the month rather than close to
the end of the month, because, just based off a
quick Google search of releases coming out next year in
May May fifteenth, Mortal Kombat two and a titled project
called is God Is And I think there's a Neon
(09:41):
unrated film that's scheduled for that day as well. But
May twenty second, the following Friday, the Mandalorian and Grogu
comes out, and that I would imagine is going to
do gangbusters when it comes out. So I'm surprised not
giving Mortal Kombat a little bit more time before Mandalorian
and maybe releasing it May eighth or May first feels
(10:03):
like that would have made more sense just looking at it.
But I don't know. But that's probably the biggest competition,
and to move it against the Star Wars movie that's
little like I don't know, Warner Brothers. That's that's a
dangerous task to be asking of this film.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Do you think that movie crossed the six hundred billion
like a Mandalorian Gogu.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I I could see it being five hundred to six hundred.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Yeah, I just you know, you know, if you decided
to do it after season one, Yeah maybe, I just
that there's no momentum. I don't think season three was
so flat.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah that's true.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, It's just I you know, you do have a
you know, big name with Pedro Pascal, who's just gotten
bigger since Mandalorian season one. But I don't know, like,
I just almost feel like they wasted season two and
three mapping out how they're going to create a movie
(11:07):
out of this, and I'm just like it was such
a big mistake. And season three, you know, I I
love Katie Sakoff, but season three he took a back
seat to both Grogu and to uh what's her name, Yeah, Bocatan. Yeah,
I was blinking the name. But it's just I I
(11:30):
don't know, like you, I there's no season four, right,
It's they're going straight into the movie.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, they're going straight into the movie.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
It's such a big mistake. I don't know. I I see,
if I had to put my money on it, I
say they don't cross six hundred billion, And I almost
feel like six hundred is kind of like now the
new billion dollars on the ilands, say billion, but eight
hundred is probably like the new billion mark, like a
(11:57):
really like.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Over the top success type of thing.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, like six hundred I think is like you did well.
I just don't think they'd get there.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I do wonder It'll have been three years since we've
seen Grogu and all that, so I wonder if the
lack of not having new Mandalorian Grogu content maybe helps
generate buzz for the film since they haven't been around
in our Disney Plus libraries for a while.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah. I don't know, because I think outside of the
main like you know, titled Star Wars Star Wars movies,
they just haven't been doing very well.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah, yeah, that's true. I mean it is a different
I mean we've talked about it with like Thunderbolts and
other stuff. It's just it is also just a different
movie going experience now, And like you just said, eight
hundred million is now the new like high bar outside
of of course some special movies that come out here
and there, but it is a different front atmosphere in
(13:02):
terms of movie going that we're in now, people are
waiting for at home, or just waiting in general, or
you know, just whatever the case.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
So, yeah, outside of the Rise of Skywalker, the last
non Skywalker movie was Solo, and that did three hundred
and ninety two million worldwide, almost three hundred and ninety
three in which you could say the budget barely making
the budget back at two hundred and seventy five. And
(13:31):
you know, you couple that with like marketing and all
that kind of stuff, you may have not even made
your your initial budget back. And I want to see
how much Rise of Skywalker made, but it's a it
doesn't I don't think does very very well. Outside of
the Skywalker, Rise of Skywalker did a billion. And then
(13:53):
before that, Rogue One was the was the other movie
and that one, you know, oh that one hit a
billion dollars. Wow, I did not know that.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I remember that.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, domestically and internationally it was kind of like it
was fifty to fifty. It made a twelve million more
domestically than internationally. It made five hundred and thirty three
million domestically and five hundred and twenty five million internationally.
I did not know that this hit a billion dollars.
That's crazy. I thought this wasn't It wasn't seen by
(14:27):
many people, but it Yeah, and maybe I'm fifty to
fifty on this take, but but I almost because I
just don't know how well. I think it's a bad
thing that they've waited three years in between the movie
and the like. I just it'd be different if season
three was like one of the best seasons of a
(14:51):
TV show ever. Yeah, but I just think it was very,
very mid and forgetful.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I do wonder if because with the Star Wars films
like Rogue one and still with like Force Awakens and
all that, it felt very much like a big event
type movies happening. You know, it was our first time
in having a new Star Wars movie. And however, long
back in twenty fifteen with the Force Awakens and then
the build up with Rise of Skywalker. While for me
(15:20):
it was not a great movie, it still was a
big event Star Wars is happening all this and that
I wonder if Mandalorian and grogu Is still looked at
in that same way because we have had Mandalorian Ahsoka,
Book of Boba fett Obi Wan, we've had a lot
skeleton crew. We've had a lot of Star Wars content
(15:40):
since then, so it's not like we haven't had any
like we did leading into Force Awakens and all that.
So do they view it as just simply a Hey,
it's Grogu and Mandalorian. I know them from the show.
I'm gonna go watch them. Grogu's cute. I'll go watch it.
You know, is it gonna be something like that? Is
it gonna be looked at as an event? You know?
I guess we won't know until we get closer to
(16:01):
the film and how it projects.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, I just I don't Yeah, I don't know. Like
I guess we'll see, but I it doesn't feel like
it's going to do well.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Something that happened this past weekend was kind of staying
with Disney in a way. Is that D twenty three
happened this weekend? And honestly, I don't think anything was
major from that. You know, did you see any big
news that you would want to talk about or anything?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
And no, not necessarily.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, same with me. I didn't really see anything. The
biggest thing that came out of it was, yes, they
did show some sort of sizzle reel for Avengers Doomsday,
but it was quotes and clips from previous films. It
wasn't necessarily footage or showing footage from Avengers Doomsday set.
(16:55):
The Russo Brothers did have a recorded message that played,
according to reports from D twenty three. But the biggest
thing is be careful because a lot of fake stuff
came out of that, and fake poster, a fake sizzlereel
of fake this a fake that. There's a lot of
fake stuff coming out of D twenty three, So just
be careful and just double check where the source of
(17:16):
the info's coming from. The only other thing that I
noticed or saw any news of was Vision Quest seems
to be the name of the show, the Vision series
that's coming next year. That's about it. So that's all
I wanted to mention about D twenty three.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
I mean, I guess that's kind of what we expected.
I honestly have no and maybe it's because it's not close.
I mean, it's not around the corner, and the shows
that you've been releasing on Disney Plus over the last
couple of years haven't been great. I just don't care
(17:54):
right now, understandable, Yeah, I mean, and I'm sure a
lot of people feel that way too. There's no lead
up to this, there's no lead up to anything. It's
just it's just it's it's random, uh it you know,
it's just random series being released in Yeah, there's no
(18:17):
cohesiveness with this, this saga. It's just it's it's I
don't know, like we're supposed to care about some of
the characters that appeared earlier early after Endgame and that
which haven't shown back up in a very long time.
And then you know, Vision's been gone what since it
(18:38):
was a pandemic twenty twenty one, twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Twenty twenty one. Yeah, at the beginning of twenty twenty
one was when.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah it was one a Vision. Yeah, so you're you're
asking us to wait five years in between appearances. Yes, sure, okay, cool,
Like I I don't, I don't know. I almost it's
the same thing I think I feel about this then
I feel with with Mandalorian. It's it's it's there, it's
(19:09):
going ahead release, people are gonna watch it. I absolutely
not hyped at all for anything that's coming out MCU
related on Disney Plus because they they almost make it
seem like we shouldn't care because they don't market their
their products either, which you know, you know, you know
(19:30):
makes me a little upset too. So yeah, well, if
you don't care about these products, why should the viewers.
You know, you know you treated you treated Reevey Williams
and Ironheart like trash. It's actually a halfway decent show,
(19:51):
and you're asking us to care about Vision, which we
haven't seen since pandemic days.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Cool, and then of course we have Wonder Man later
this I think it Disamber this year, so uh, eventually
we'll get a trailer for that at some point. Now
we do have I think we have X Men ninety
seven next year, so that will be something to look
forward to.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Oh man, he uh bo de Mayo on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
That dude's wilding out.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
That dude, it's a it's a thing he has. He
has his own opinions on Kevin Figi and in company.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
He has a lot of opinions.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
What I won't get too much into it, but if
you want to know his opinions about Kevin Figie and
Marvel Studios, you can go over to his Twitter account.
I think it was it was a week or two
ago where he kind of went off and talks about
how they don't treat the source material properly and how
nobody reads the comics and they get told not to
basically read the comics or fall of the comics. So
(20:46):
it's uh, and he's not surprised that the products have
been feeling because of the direction that it's it's it's
a whole thing. You could we could probably spend thirty
minutes just reading through his tweets.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, that dude, that dude, don't don't stop talking. We
won't go into the Bau de Mayo territory. What we
will go into is our spoiler reviews for Alien Earth,
the latest episode for that, and of course Peacemaker season two,
episode two. Now, if you haven't watched either of those shows,
or maybe you've watched one and not the other, skip
ahead to whichever show you've watched, or skip the rest
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of this issue, because that's all it is. The rest
of the way.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
And I guess we'll start with Alien Earth because that
is actually we're recording this on Tuesday, September second, so
episode five is releasing tonight, so I can't wait for that.
But the latest episode observation released last week, and it's
(21:55):
it's more of a One of the common criticisms I
saw was that it was more plotting than some of
the other episodes. I didn't mind that for me. I
really enjoyed where this went in terms of direction and
in terms of what it's building towards with all our
different characters. What did you think of the latest episode
(22:17):
of Alien Earth?
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I didn't mind it either. You know, I guess people
will call it a filler episode, but you know, I
do think that there are times where you do need
to take a step back and you know, add in
layers of just character and world building and just kind
(22:39):
of explain to your viewers what's going on. I just
I don't I mean, I don't really mind it that much.
And it's I think just getting into getting into too
many of these will be will become an issue later on,
because you know, obviously we're dealing with eight episodes. This
is half your essentially. Now we're at the halfway point,
(23:02):
so yeah, I expect it to pick up the pace
really really quickly. The next episode is titled in Space
No One interesting title to say the least, just because
we know it's two years two years prior to the
original Aliens movie. So anyway, but I don't you know,
(23:22):
I didn't mind it at all. You set up the
you explain that you know, Wendy can talk to or
understand or hear, you know, the the Aliens, and and
they kind of hone in on like trying to get
(23:42):
her to you know, that frequency, and which I didn't mind.
You explained more what's going on with her brother and
why you know, Wendy wants to keep her brother around.
And then now they're you know, essentially having something over
his head to make sure he stays in line with everything.
And then and then the whole moral thing I think
(24:07):
is very fascinating too. And now there is no I
would say, there's no gray area with him. Now I
fully think he's in. He's a full an antagonist that
will do whatever it takes to get things done.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I uh, they're setting up things to go awry for
Boy Cavalier and the people on Prodigy, So it's going
to get pretty chaotic, I would imagine. And then and
then you know it's uh, yeah, it's gonna be interesting
going forward.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah, going back to what you said about the episode
five title, I believe it's going to be the episode
that show us, shows us what happened on the maagine
of the Beginning ship that we saw briefly and just
saw the destruction, So we're gonna see what happened to
make everything go bad real quick. H I want to
go back to something you said in terms of just
(25:03):
you know how it's building and everything, because it made
me think of one of the things I wrote down
is there is a world where Noah Holly just tells
an elongated alien movie right where they're just in space,
they're just dealing on a ship and it's just them
humans against aliens. Like there's a world where that's the show,
(25:25):
and that's probably fine, But I like that they're taking
risks by having these things with hybrids, having her Wendy
be able to hear the Zeno morphs, and on top
of that, actually pet one by the end of the episode,
Like it's it's just wild like risk taking that Noah
Holly and the rest of the group is is doing
(25:46):
with this, And I love that risk factor that he's
bringing to Alien and doing something different that I definitely
was not expecting. I was just looking forward to more
Alien content, and now he's introduced like new aspects to
the to the world, new characters, I mean, this company,
like all these different aspects that I really enjoy the
(26:08):
direction we're going in, and this episode felt very much
like a building upon that, and it didn't really like
click for me until the second viewing of it, in
that the very very beginning of the episode, when they're
doing the previously on and they're showing clips of the
previous episodes, but it's the cameras zooming in on a
(26:28):
baby doll head that's just laying on a beach, just broken,
and it was like, I didn't know what to make
of it upon first viewing, but then upon second viewing,
it's kind of clicked in that this was a lot
to do with a loss of innocence with a lot
of these characters and a lot of these kids, because
(26:51):
a lot of them are being just pushed into adult
situations very very very quickly. Of course, these were like ten, eleven, twelve,
thirteen year olds at that and they're being treated as
if they're well, some are being treated as just property
and while others are just being treated as adults right
from the jump. And one of the saddest aspects of
(27:13):
that is the manipulation that a lot of these adults
are doing to these kids. Moro doing what he's doing
to a rouge or slightly in manipulating him to get
him one of the eggs to Boy Cavalier manipulating both
Windy and Curly kind of pushing Curly making her feel
(27:35):
less than Wendy in a lot of ways, and Wendy
being pushed to possibly distrust her brother to probably Smee
and Isaac are the ones that are like most chill
with everything. They haven't really been pushed in different ways.
I guess Isaac to a certain extent, with just researching
(27:56):
all these different creatures and things like that, you could
say maybe it has been pushed in that direction. And
then of course Nibs, who has had a traumatic experience,
who's now like just freaked out and claiming just wild stuff.
It's just it's it goes to the do you think
these are machines or do you think these are kids?
And if they're kids, this is just sad seeing the
(28:19):
manipulation that adults have in this world for these kids.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Yeah, I mean, I you know, I you know, I
think and her brother makes a good point about like
you know that are they kids or are the machines
because he talks about how, you know, their minds are
essentially kids. You know, they're little kids trapped in these
robot bodies. And I think I wholeheartedly agree with him.
(28:43):
I think they're they're physically, they're you know, they've given
they've been given in an upgrade and a new a
new new lease in life. But they're just kids. I
I fuollheartedly believe that they're just kids. And I don't, uh,
I don't think that they're they're still you know, mentally,
(29:05):
they're still human, and I still think that they're human.
So that's what I mean, that's my belief.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, And I think I think they're they're human at
the end of the day, because you know, Moro has
that great question and I think it is episode three
when is a machine not a machine?
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
These are, Yes, they are machine bodies, but the consciousness
aspect of it. Maybe you've tricked an AI to think
it's this human kid, but with the way they all
act in or it's their human consciousness inside these bodies,
so to me, that makes them human. And I think
I think that's how they're they're reacting to situations like
(29:41):
to me, it's like I love see it's a little like, oh,
we could do that like read books and things in
this way and just having fun like that's just a kid,
Like that's one hundred percent just a kid. And of
course you have these other ones that are doing more
adult things with like learning French or learning biology and
learn this and learning that, and yeah, it's not quite
(30:02):
the same. But I think Dame Sylvia and a lot
of the others have under estimated or are a bit
naive to the what they've actually done to these kids
and how big of a change this all is to them.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Oh for sure, you know, I think that's one of
the reasons why they were you know, they could have
been you know, they were so hesitant into taking all
of them onto the ship. Yeah, you know, And I
think in his name, boy Cavalier is very cavalier with everything,
and he thinks he's smarter than everybody, which you know,
(30:37):
you know, he's will he will find out the I
guess the hard way that it's it's not you know,
going to be that easy. So yeah, I think, you know,
Kersh is the one that should be the one kind
of making all these decisions because I feel like he's
(30:59):
you know, he really does like to observe, maybe a
little too much and not take enough action. But yeah,
I think I do think that he should be the
one kind of calling the shots instead of boy Cavalier.
And we may not have this situation if although we
(31:22):
may not have had most of the stuff on the
ship seized, and it might have been more chaos if
boy Cavalier didn't send all of them in. Yeah, but
you know, just I guess we're if we're talking decisions
and not our outcomes. It's not the best decision when
(31:42):
you really look at it. Not the best decision to
send a bunch of little kids into to stop whatever
you think was going to what was happening at the time,
or I guess like monitor what was or I guess
go do reconnaissance. We all kind of see the signs
of deviation as the the season is kind of playing out,
(32:08):
and each one of these what do you what are they?
What are they're not androids? What are they called?
Speaker 2 (32:14):
The hybrids or the synths?
Speaker 1 (32:17):
The sense their sense, right, Wendy and all them.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, well they're more hybrids because of the human consciousness
in a synth body.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, so so I think as the episodes are playing out,
we see deviations from you know, all of them. They
all started off kind of like the same, kind of
getting to understand their bodies and how everything works. And
now we kind of see the personalities coming out, which
is why I think they're all like they're all you're
you would consider them to be human, just with you know,
(32:48):
the the bodies of a synth. But yeah, like you know,
I think you see the just how everything is kind
of playing out, and you'll see more deviation as as
the season goes on, and you know, it almost seems
like Nibs is gonna go crazy and go brogue and
just start killing people and uh, and then slightly is
(33:12):
probably gonna get in trouble because you know, obviously Kersh
knows what he's doing. And and then you have what
was it? What was what name did? The Aaron is
the toodles, Oh, Isaac Isaac Isaac uh and he's he
seems very loyal. So all of these, all of these
(33:33):
you know, hybrids are going to develop their own unique
We're going to get a sense of what they are
as the season plays on.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Well, and they also still don't realize what all they're
capable of right, like the even nibs, like jumping on
to Dame Sylvia, like like she was able to do,
and Dame Sylvia realized, oh snap, she could kill me
right now with ease, because they're in these super powerful
synth bodies, like they just they're finding themselves. But they
(34:03):
did not give them time to find themselves at all, because,
as you mentioned, boy Cavalier goes Cavalier and just sends
them in because he sees as I think, I forget
who said it in one of the previous episodes, ooh
a new shiny thing. Let me take this now and
just mess with it. And yeah, we may have ended
death and we have immortality. They were out towards immortality
(34:25):
with these new synthetic bodies or hybrid bodies, but I
got aliens now, so let me just mess with these things.
And yeah they're dangerous, yeah they can kill and all
this and that, but I want to see what happens.
You know, It's just it's it's just one. It's obviously
the downfall of everything's gonna happen at some point sooner
rather than later. But also just boy Cavalier just an
(34:48):
insane egomaniacomaniac that thinks of everything as property. Like he
never refers to Joe as his name. He always refers
to him as the brother and like tells Wendy, you
can keep them if you do this. You know, it's
like just like everything's a transactional thing with him, and
(35:10):
everything is just his property. He says it towards the beginning,
it's my world. He just lives in it. And I'm
sure that's how he've used anything. And everybody hints, why
hints why he doesn't wear shoes. He's just in his
house all the time.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Oh for sure, for sure. He just uh, yeah, I
do want to see more of a backstory on him
and how he became, you know, the way he is
and maybe maybe it's maybe uh maybe it's one of
those things like the Joker where we don't need one.
But yeah, it's just fascinating the way he just thinks.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
The line that Dame Sylvia gives of yeah, yes, he
breaks the rules, he takes risks. Maybe that's why he's
so far ahead. That's called enabling, Dame Sylvia. That's the
Oh it's fine, just let me look away. I was like, mmmm,
that's what a lot of people have done in our
current world, and we'll see how that goes. So yep. Also,
(36:05):
I like the line from Arthur who said we took
minds of children and put them in synthetic bodies. That's
not theoretical. I mean, if we do this wrong, best case,
we've got a bunch of ais running around thinking they're human.
Worst case, we killed six kids, Like, yeah, that's one
hund percent what you just did. Possibly, Yeah, the worst kids.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
The worst case he killed six kids. Yeah, we're still
pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
That's pretty bad. And I think Dame Sylvia is still
kind of naive to the whole situation. And then of
course when she has the the talk with Nibs about
the pregnancy and all that, that's when it's like, oh, snap,
we have messed up. Now we have a level three
event and all that. I I I wonder with kersh
(36:51):
with like you mentioned him earlier about him observing and
because he knows what's happening with slightly, but he hasn't
done anything to stop it. He sees what's happening with Wendy,
he sees what's happening with the alien. He's hees like
he's seeing all these things happening, and I wonder if
he's just gonna let the chaos ensue, you know what
I mean, Like, is he simply just going to observe
(37:14):
everything go down in a in a in a burst
of fire, or is he going to actually do something?
Because the more I feel like when he interacts with
boy Cavalier, it feels like he has a disdain for
boy Cavalier, Oh for sure. So I feel like he
could just say, you know what, let it burn. I
don't care. I'm just observing.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah, I mean he has it has some thoughts about
boy Cavalier, and yeah, I don't think. I don't think
they're all he has his I guess alternative motives and
I don't. I guess we don't really know what they
are yet. But yeah, it's fascinating how he just sits
there and watches and just plays a long game. He's
(37:55):
waits and waits and waits and he does. He's doing
it with with boy Cavalier, he's doing it with uh
with slightly and so yeah, very interested.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah, I'm surprised that he hasn't because that makes me
think he like he has more autonomy over everything, Like
he's not just a mindless robot obviously that we're just
doing whatever, right, like he him observing, knowing because he
could hear Moro in slightly like he he knows things
are happening. And after Moro has the talk with slightly
(38:33):
threatening to him to get to the eggs and get
a person to just stand by the eggs and let
it happen, he goes into the cage with the eggs
and unlocks it and touches it. So it's like, is
he gonna just let it happen? Is he gonna let
slightly do this to maybe capture Maybe it's a it's
a route to capture Moro, or it's something more of
(38:55):
I'm gonna let this prodigy stuff burn because I think
this is a stupid thing to do. I don't know,
like it's a fascinating dynamic with Kersh because I don't
know where he leans at any point throughout this episode.
He's I think he's very fascinated by the aliens and
studying them like he you know, when they do the
sheep scene, which I want to get to the sheep
scene here in a second, Oh freak. He's talking about
(39:20):
the aliens highly intelligent. You know there is some sort
of connection there, but in a different way, not like
Wendy's connection, but there is like a connection of discovery maybe,
like I don't know, Like I find kersh very fascinating
so far in what he could do. Also, only a
egan manhiacal maniac would get jealous of an alien staring
(39:41):
at another person with Boy Cavalier getting the alien's attention
in that sheep scene.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yeah, the sheep scene definitely very freaky, and we kind
of understand why that alien is shaped the way it does.
Basically replaces the eye and just takes over the it's
a parasite and takes over takes over the host. Yeah,
(40:12):
very creepy. And it would get ventured, to say, foreshadowing
of what could possibly be coming. And I guess maybe
I imagine it's going to take one of the hybrids,
And I can only imagine how much damage it could
(40:34):
do if it takes a body of a hybrid, especially
especially since it's you know, these hybrids that are so
genetically modified and they're killing machines, they could be killing machines.
It's gonna get very very ugly.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Yeah, the way he cause he the alien that I
forget what they call him on the on the podcast
the Official Alien Earth Podcast, because there's the name it.
I'm just gonna say, I ie monster Alien. It focuses
on Cursh and Isaac at first, so I don't know
if it's simply like I wonder if it since it
(41:11):
is highly intelligent, does it know that there's more to
Kersh and Isaac in them being not a flesh you know?
You know what I mean, like, does it realize that
they're more than that? And possibly why it goes after
nibs or does it just go after eyes? Like does
it just go after eye holes? No matter the situation?
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Yeah, it's uh, yeah, I may. I mean I think
it the way that the way that it looked was
that it went after eyes. But I guess I don't know.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yeah, with the way it went after nibs, it went
straight for eye hole and it was going to like
mess with rip her eye out, I guess, which you know,
if it does, like you mentioned, if it does go
after a hybrid, and if it does rip out a
hybrid's eye, is it able to take it over? Like
you know, it seems like it takes over the nervous system,
(42:07):
but can it does it get into the eye and
then realize, oh, crap, I can't take this over.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Oh. Also, we learned that Snuggies, well we ice age
we knew from previous episode as cannon to the Alien Earth.
Now we know Snuggies are are part of the alien cannon.
With the discussion with Joe and the higher executive, I
forget his name, and I don't know. I kind of
thought blankets with sleeves are okay, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
I unnecessary shot at Snuggie, but.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Snuggy Snuggie didn't need that stray straight shot at them,
Like I don't know any other points on Alien Earth
before we move on to Peacemaker.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Uh no, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Yeah, I think that wraps up all my notes. So
let's jump to Peacemaker Season two, episode two. A man
is only as good as his bird, and well Dong
Eaglely is freaking terrifying. Eaglely has the standout action sequence
of the of the show so far. I just I
(43:16):
realized John Cena fought John Cena in the last episode,
but Eagerly ripped out a guy's eye like that was insane.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Yeah, and then did a giant dive onto mister I
don't know what birds are birds birds in meadows. But yeah,
it's another solid episode. You get some character backstory on
the Chris that died in the other universe. You get
(43:45):
some jealousy about you know, what he has he has
in that universe and what he doesn't, and then we
get a little bit of foreshadowing of it may not
look as green on the other side as we think,
but Chris, I don't think realizes that. You know, the
audience gets kind of a hints that he has some
(44:08):
kind of drug problem, and you know, there's some issues
stemming from you know, things that are happening in that
universe with Hardcourt, and it looks probably looks like they're
broken up in that universe. Ye, But yeah, I fully
enjoyed the episode. It's it's an easy watch, it's funny.
(44:29):
I think right now has a pretty high bar at
this moment going forward to the rest of the season
because the first two episodes have been really, really good.
So yeah, I've been enjoying it so far.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Yeah, this one is another one where it's it's not
necessarily that a lot happened, it's more so just understanding
better of where these characters are at and like you
mentioned with Peacemaker, you know, he's struggling with this world currently.
And then, of course he discovers in the last episode
(45:03):
the Earth two or whatever you want to call it,
where Peacemaker, his brother, and his father are heroes and
that's a nice world to live in. But it freaks
him out. He runs back, of course, you know, kills hisself,
and in this episode, I think there's a chance for
him to maybe abandon that universe completely and just live
(45:28):
out his normal life on the regular Earth that he's in.
And he tries to reach out to Harcourt in the
in the party scene, and she pushes him away further
makes him depressed in his own way, and that's when,
like you said about the well, for him, the grass
is greener on the other side in this other universe.
(45:49):
Maybe I could go live out my fantasy life in there,
since I'm not able to achieve it here with Harcourt
pushing him away, with so many things just happening that
are bad, I want to be a I want to
be this, I want to be that. Maybe now I
can actually do those things in this universe. And that
seems where drunk Peacemaker ends up by the end of it,
and of course it's gonna blow up in his face
(46:11):
as all things would, but were understanding how broken he is,
how broken Harcourt is even at a bio and economists
a little bit. And then of course Benje Lancey's just
hanging out happy to be there.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Uh yeah, I uh, which this is a side the
actor that plays him. Uh, people are really rooting for
him to replace Fryan Reynolds does Deadpoole, which I could
I could totally see. He's He's a tremendous actor. Uh
fits that role very very well, and I could see
him playing a character like Deadpool.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Anyway, but yeah, everybody has their own issues, and you know,
I think, uh just kind of goes to echo just
real life. Everybody has stuff that they deal with and
and I think we can a lot of people can
take snippets of everybody, all the characters in the show,
(47:10):
and and kind of relate to them somehow.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Right.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
So you know, there are people out there that will
drown their sorrows and sex and booze and drugs, which
is like Christus. And then there are people that work
through you know, especially now where they may be in
a job that they dislike or even hate, but they
are saying because grass isn't always greener, and the crippling
(47:37):
anxiety prevents him from you know, switching jobs. And we
all have relationship issues and we all want to get
in sometimes just to feel some something you you hurt
yourself like, there's a lot of these traits that are
not great and that is very harmful to us that
(47:58):
we all experience. And I think they do a very
good job at showing and showcasing how people can struggle
and how people deal with it, and maybe they'll adjustice
towards the end of the season where there's some kind
of resolution for all of these characters or some of them,
(48:18):
and maybe by the end of the season, whether it's
having a final break with your girlfriend and having a
you know, clean breakup and moving on, or whether it
is finding a new job, or whether it's finding your
happy place and not getting into bar fights or getting sober.
I think some of the stuff will probably get resolved
or you know, will have some kind of slightly happy ending.
(48:42):
But I really do love the complexities of these characters,
and you kind of bottle all of them up together
and it can be one person. It can be you.
You don't have to have all of these things that
are about you, but it, you know, can be a
(49:03):
therapeutic experience for somebody that is going through some trauma
and that kind of thing. And I think they do
a very good job at this. And James Gun's always
done a good job at making us care about these
care about characters and just humanizing everything. And I think
he again, I think he just nails the you know,
nails it out of the park.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
Yeah, he's done a great job of balancing you know.
Of course it's over the top, crass and and bombastic
with some of its like absurd moments, but at the
same time, it hits you in more emotional moments with
like you mentioned with economists mentioning about his his crippling anxiety.
It's kind of done in a goofy way with them
(49:42):
both being him and out of bio being drunk at
that moment. But still it's like, oh, that's sad. You
got Chris dealing with his issues. You got Harcourt who
both him, both her and and Chris are not yet
able to fully admit their problems, and so they're they're
hiding it in different ways. And of course, you know,
(50:03):
Chris is taking it out with you know, drugs or
numbing it with drugs, alcohol and sex and all that,
whereas Harcourt is numbing it through violence and through bar
fights and everything. And Chris actually sees the pattern that
she's going through, calls her out on it, and she's
unwilling to admit it, and she realizes she's he's caught
(50:24):
her in that, and again she's will unwilling to admit
that she is down in the dump. She's even you know,
they have that brief shot when she after she snaps
at that poor woman in the pharmacy, she has that
brief shot of looking up at the cashier wanted sign,
and it's like she's reached so rock bottom to this
point that she is considering seemingly, for a brief moment,
(50:46):
seemingly considered considering to be a cashier for this pharmacy.
Probably can't after you yelled at somebody, But she is
willing to do that, and she's not realizing the damage
that she's doing by not confronting her problems and admitting
the problems that she has with of course, seeking fights
out to just feel something. I was listening to the
(51:09):
official podcast, and Jennifer Holland described her character as a
cutter who is cutting to feel things, and it's I
can see it. After she mentioned that, it's like, yeah,
I can the bar fights are the cuts.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
Yeah, it's She obviously is suffering through some things because
of the loss of her job and just the drastic
change that's happened over the last however many months or years,
not even years, right, it's probably months.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
Yeah, it's probably months. I would say, like eight months
or a little more.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
Yeah, So yeah, she's still yeah, she's still dealing with
how to do things without being a part of an
organized I guess group that is, you know, that has
its own agendas. She needs structure and she doesn't have it,
and she's yeah, she's taking it out and trying to
(52:12):
feel something that she feels when she's in the field.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
Yeah, she's completely lost that structure at this point by
being basically blacklisted, it seems like, through via Amanda Waller
blacklisting her and not being able to work for one
of the big agencies or Argus or anything, and then
without a bio. You know, she left off in a
(52:38):
happy place with her and Kia, but then when you
get here, it's completely broken down. And with her, it's
again the problem of I don't know that she's fully
admitting that whatever she decided to do fractured her relationship
with Kia, and I don't know that she's willing to
(52:58):
admit that. Yeah, maybe going after the dreams of running
her own thing or doing her own stuff put everything
in danger for her personal life. And because those two
seemingly are completely broken, Kia being feeling like they're over
with whereas at a bio feeling like, oh, we're not over,
(53:19):
we're just on a break. Well, Kia doesn't see it
that way, and you probably should talk it out, but
of course nobody talks it out.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
No, nobody does. And a lot of like, like I said,
a lot of real life stuff stems to a lot
of people don't like talking about things and they find,
you know, they find they drowned them some alcohol and
drugs and sex and violence, and like like it's being
petrayed on the show.
Speaker 2 (53:46):
Yeah, yeah, and there's again it goes back to this
was a strong episode for showcasing all the the hardships
that and problems that all these characters are facing currently
and unless like there is moving with the plot of
figuring out about the multiverse door that that Chris has,
(54:06):
and of course Flurry Tim Medals, who, by the way,
tremendous addition in this season and from the bird blindness
to ginger cool to to just everything that he him
and interacting with anybody given everyone nicknames like just insane.
But I loved what Tim Metal's brought to it. You know,
he really brought the goofy over the top parts of
(54:28):
this episode and really did a fantastic job, and so
we get a little bit of that. But this again,
this this episode is more focused on character, which I appreciate.
At the end of it.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
Yeah, it's it's been really really good. Uh and you know,
the jokes weren't as far in between, uh were I
guess a little fewer far fewer from in between. But
I think they've done a good job of balancing that
through the entire entire couple of entire two up episodes.
(55:00):
In I it's it's it's one of those shows I
think you should watch pretty quickly every time it's released.
I think it's it's getting to that much must must
watch kind of type of show.
Speaker 2 (55:12):
Yeah, And then of course now that Peacemaker has made
the decision of I'm going to live out my fantasy
life in Earth too, I would guess or the next
episode is focused on that fantasy life and how everything's
going well for him. There probably the brother Keith and
the dad are going to see some cracks into is
(55:33):
this the same Chris that we've known for however long?
Like this seems weird? So and we know there's something
more there because they when they're talking about like can't
find it, can't find Chris, they say something to the
effect of is he with that girl again? Is he disappearing?
So this Chris also has faced some sort of problem
(55:54):
in his own life that he's not recognizing and will
uncover what that is in coming up. So, but I
imagine this next episode is all about R Chris Chris
one living out his best life in this in this
other universe.
Speaker 1 (56:09):
Yeah, yeah, and just I would imagine there's gonna be
some chaos and havoc that he causes and people, like
you said, people are realizing that he's not who he
was supposed to be. And I would imagine that it
might be pretty easy to tell. And yeah, I am
excited to see where this goes.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
Yeah, And the only other thing I was going to
bring up is, of course, the very very beginning of
the episode, Rick Flax Senior, we learn how he finds
out about what happened to his son and what happened
with Peacemaker, of course that part being being Cannon and
Quarto Maltese being cannon, and of course what happens with
the fight with Peacemaker and everything. So we learned that,
(56:52):
and he's very.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
Pissed, rightfully, so his son died because of him, so.
Speaker 2 (56:58):
So we'll see how that goes. Of course, with the
situation with Eagley and everything, we I would imagine they're
going to go in more so guns blazing in the
next episode. And I think it's hinted on the preview
for next episode that that Argus is going to go
more guns blazing this next episode. So we'll see where
that goes. We'll see where the rest of the story
(57:21):
takes off with Chris and living his life and Earth too.
But any other points on Peacemaker episode two before we wrap.
Speaker 1 (57:28):
Up, No, no, and John Cena doing a good job
with this character, and just a little shot at the rock. Yeah,
I don't think the box office is the reason why
you're not getting these serious roles. But you know it
is what it is. You know you've been passed by
John Cena and Bautista's best wrestler turn actor. So yeah,
(57:51):
it's not a skill.
Speaker 2 (57:53):
Issue, bro, now John Cena, like fully, it is a.
Speaker 1 (57:58):
Skill issue, bro, It's not as a box office issue.
Speaker 2 (58:02):
And John Cena has been He's really done very well
with the acting and his the emotional moments, the sadness moments.
He's really done a great job with all of that.
And I'm very impressed with where John Cena. He's a
long way away from the days of the Marine and
(58:23):
all that for sure. Well, that's going to do it
for issue six hundred and ten of Comiccasts. Thank you
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