June 27, 2025 • 50 mins
Today it's a special Comicast One Shot, as Michael is joined by Chalice Williams of Reel Movie Junkie to dive into a full spoiler review of 28 Years Later. Find out why the film didn't meet their expectations, what went right, that ending, and more! Plus, there's some breaking news reaction from the pair towards the end of the issue.
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Speaker 1 (00:32):
Oh, hello there, Internet, Welcome to a special Comic Cast
one shot.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
For this one.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I wasn't necessarily going to plan to do this one,
like the plan wasn't in the cards to do this
spoiler review. But in the DMS we were talking and
it was like, we got to do this on record
and joining me for this special spoiler review of twenty
eight years later, which is all this podcast is going
to be a maybe some other stuff, but mainly twenty
(01:02):
eight years later. Shalise Williams a real movie junkie. Shalise,
how are you hello?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I am doing great. Thanks for having me again. I
love it here.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Thank you for thank you for enjoying it here, loving
it here. Thank you again for joining us on issue
six hundred of Comic Cast.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
We really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
How was by the way, since we're on the topic,
how was the Comic Paluza for you?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
It was? It was great.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
I spent more money than I was initially planning to,
but I ran into some merch that was just really
hard to turn down. Of course, I'm a sucker for
anything astral world related, especially when it see og like
font and all those things, So yeah, I dove into
that and then spent three hours in line waiting to
(01:49):
give my Hayden Christensen signature.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Fun times, great times. See.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I think I saw that astral World stuff too, because
me and my friend Jennifer Chang, who was there taking
photos for the for Comic Loser, we walked by that
booth that had all the.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Astral World stuff and I was like, Oh, that's cool,
that's legit.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah, that was awesome.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
I went into a deep dive one time looking for
merged from back then, and if I really think about it,
I'm sure people have it, but it was so long
ago that.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I don't see it being like.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
It wasn't anything like, oh, a vintage jersey or a
vintage like it was stuff that we were wearing to
the pool. It was probably you know, it's probably people
probably find it as not something that was worth keeping
back then. So I'm doubting that it's at any kind
of good condition so enough for people to feel the
need to sell it.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, yeah, that's the condition. Wise, may not be the
best we'll see, But speaking of what's not the best
twenty eight years later, which is what we're going to
be talking about again. Full spoilers ahead. If you haven't
watched twenty eight years later. Skip this podcast, because that's
the way. That's all it's going to be the rest
of the way. I want to start off kind of generally, though,
(02:59):
and start off with expectations for this movie because I
asked Jong this on I think it was issue five
ninety nine of comcasts, like, what was his expectations going
into it? Because I know mine were very high. After
watching that first trailer come out, I didn't watch anything
else after that. I was sold from the jump. I
liked twenty eight days later the original one, so I
(03:21):
was like, I'm in So what were your expectations going
into it? Shalise of twenty eight years later.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
When I heard that woman giving out those numbers whatever audio,
that was yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Banger incoming, banger. That's all I needed to hear. I
was sold. And then you put Aaron Taylor Johnson in it.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Mind you, from my understanding, he wasn't talking in the trailer,
so I was sold. I don't really care for the
accent he carried in the film, but I was sold.
I was like disfranchised. In order for it to even
be revamped after so long, had to have a solid.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Well known lead that was my thought.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
So when I saw the trailer and then I saw
I heard that audio, I was like, this is gonna
be phenomenal. And I only watched that first trailer. And
that's how I've been doing things. I've only been watching
a first trailer. I know, Fantastic Four drop like three trailers,
the last one today and I didn't even watch it
because I'm just like, you take my money, I'm sold.
And that's how I felt about this one.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, that's what I was too, because yeah, that the
way they structured that trailer and that that audio you mentioned,
it's like from one hundred and ten year old recording,
and it was like it just it set the tone
for what this film could be, and I was like, Okay,
I'm in.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I'm sold this.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I had high expectations going into this one, and I
fully expected this one to be one of my favorite
movies of the year, and for the first half it
felt like it to a certain extent, like it it
was good.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
And then the second half.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Happens, and I think that was my bigger issue was
that I had, like I had, like Snoop Dogg, high expectations,
and it was that was my problem. I think That's
where I went wrong was having SUCHI expectations because I
was like, wait a.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Minute, what I what was I watching? Like, what was
that first trailer like? Because I really feel like I
missed something.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Because also because so last night I watched Megan two
point zero, I had very low expectations for going into
that and I ended up enjoying it more than I
enjoyed twenty eight years later, which is insane, wow, insane
to me. I was not a fan of Megan no,
like the first one was. The first one was fine,
(05:29):
don't get me wrong, but like Megan two point oh
was fun, Like that was just a fun movie, and
it superseded my expectations based off that first trailer. That
first trailer made me go, oh, that's this is gonna
be a train wreck, and it was not. And this one,
twenty eight years later had me sold on the first
(05:50):
trailer and it just it just lost me. I guess
let's start with that first half where it does work,
and I think the one thing for me that really worked,
especially like early on there's this dark tone and also
just kind of this I don't I don't want to
say cult like thing going on with the community, but
(06:11):
this this like notion of pushing Spike, who is our
main character obviously for this movie, pushing him to become
a man of this community, with this whole like when
you're twelve or fourteen you go out and get your
first kill sort of situation. And I was like, Okay,
this is an interesting premise. I'm locked in. And with
(06:32):
the way Aaron Taylor Johnson and Alfie Williams were playing
off each other like I was, I was sold for
the first bit of that movie. I thought it was
an interesting place to start off. Would you think of
that starting.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Off light for it?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Yeah? I that is one.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
So when I think of the list of things I
had a problem with, and maybe I missed it and
you and you caught it. But I was trying to
understand the purpose of venturing out past safe space, like
what was the purpose and if it's what you said
and I missed it where it's like, hey, once you
turn a certain age, we're gonna take you to get
your first kill. That that flew over my head because
I was wondering, if we're safe here, why the hell
(07:07):
are we going past this?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
And I thought.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
About the Last of Us, how they had that same
kind of setup where it's like, we have a little town,
we have an area you go past these you know,
this guarded wooden fence that's heavily guarded when you go past, Like,
why would they go out there voluntarily? And I know
they were going out there getting supplies in the last
of us, but I was trying to figure out what the.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Purpose of this was. And Yeah, that that right there
threw me for a loop.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Me. That was the first thing I could say through
me for a little I didn't feel like they expanded
on that.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
See, like to me, it really hit for me just
because I like, I've never related, well, I shouldn't say
that I related very much to Spike in that moment
because growing up I'm my mom and dad split when
I was three, so I didn't have I didn't have
a closer relationship with my dad. And you know, it
(08:01):
was that thing where he takes me every other weekend
sort of thing. And he took me hunting a few times,
and one of those things was pushing to get that
first kill, you know, of the first hunt or whatever.
And that's why that's what this felt, especially with the
way the community like celebrates him and says good luck
Spike and Da da da dah, like the way they're
(08:21):
like cheering them on and everything.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
But they were hyping him up. And that was another
one of my best problem number two. They were gassing
him up, and even he was like it wasn't even
that big of a deal or but I didn't really
kill him or it was weak, like even he was
speaking for me, because I was like, why are we
guessing a little boy?
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Oh, like he did some crazy phenomenal job. He did not.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
And that's the thing where this is where it hooked
me in. And I was like, oh, this is good.
I like where it's going because the same thing happened
to me, not quite the same obviously, no rage, virus,
monster or anything like that, but it was I went
on a hunt with my dad. My dad was like,
(08:58):
we're you know, dear blind all that type of stuff,
and it's early in the morning and he sees a
buck and he's like, you want, you want, it's your chance.
I was like, nah, I'm good, you get you get that,
I'll get the next one.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
That's what I said. I'm a twelve year old kid,
thirteen year old kid. I didn't know what I was saying.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
He gets it and on the way back he's saying, Oh,
when we get back, we're gonna tell him it was you.
And it was that whole thing of like we get
back to the camp and they're all like.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Oh, Michael, da da da da.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
And it was the same, like that pressure of like
feeling like you're part of the group, part of the
man group now, you know what I mean, Like you're
you're a big man now because you killed this this creature.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
When it's actuality, I didn't do anything.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I didn't that was a biopic.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, it was my biopic, it really, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
It's like and this the same thing with like I
think they were forcing Spike to drink at one point
and like part of my family did that where it
was like here have a beer, Like I don't really
want it, Here have a beer. And it's like all
that stuff was like, Okay, they have something interesting here
to say about like maybe pushing kids to to do
(10:06):
these things a lot earlier and like a familiar relationship
all that type of stuff. So like that aspect of
the movie I thought was interesting and I thought could
maybe play into something deeper and darker because they hint
at something at least it felt like to me deeper
and darker with yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
That's you're absolutely right. I felt like, what is the
reason that we're doing this? Are we like, hey, we
want to start to teach him because if you know,
as a parent, if he get you know, if Aaron
Tyler Johnson's character got killed, he needs to be able
to make sure his son or I mean, nothing to
do once he's dead, but if he should one know, safely, Hey,
my son is gonna be able to take care of himself.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I taught him, see, And I like that.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I like that setup, and I think it's a smart
angle to take with with this, especially with the community
that's been around for so long. And like, like you said,
there's no need for them to go outside of the
safe space outside of maybe gathering supplies here and or
something like that. But this, like this set up as
to why they would go out and venture that far
into a danger zone if you will. Like that, that
(11:08):
all made sense to me and I like that aspect.
But one of the first signs where I was like,
I don't know about this was when Spike sees the
fire off in the distance and you know, he talks
to I think it's the grandpa or whatever about like
what's the fire in the Grandpa's like, oh, it's it's
(11:32):
the doctor and he the dad won't tell him and
then finally tells him and it's like, oh, he has
all these bodies laid out and he waved us over
and I'm like, he just waved at you, bro, like
what are you talking about? You made it sound like
this deep, darker thing. And I guess you could say
that's like, oh, well, kids do that, they make something
out of nothing. But to me, that's where a crack
started showing in the in the plot armor if you will.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Yeah, I think that there was there was a lot to.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
There's a lot to unpack, and I think that it's
I feel like the first the part of the movie
that I enjoyed and I'm breaking into three the first
third of the film that does have Aaron Taylor Johnson's
character heavily involved. I feel like there I felt, I
felt I want to say the word lost, but I
felt like, what is the reason for this? Like why
(12:21):
are we, like I said, why are we trying to
figure out or make sure this this kid can find
for himself.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
You're hyping him up.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
He clearly can't, so you're not really confident this boy
is gonna be able to find for himself. And then
you're not expressing any anger towards him when he messes up,
because he does, and you're just tell him you're coddling.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Him, like no, it's okay. So I'm like, no, it's
not okay.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Like if this was a real life situation, need you
to not be scared, you need to like be a man,
and he wasn't, So I was like, okay, I'm still
wondering why we're doing this second of all, like what's
going on with the mom Like yeah, yeah, Like it
was just I had so many have more questions and
I had answers, and then I feel like even at
the end of the movie, the questions that I had
(13:04):
still were not answered.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
And that's when one of my bigger problems came.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I think one of the biggest problems is this movie
feels more set up than actual like completing a story.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Right, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Because like when I mentioned about like hinting at something
darker with this community, there's that they intersplice these moments,
especially early on where it's you know, the young boys
like from classic footage or whatever, preparing young men for
battles and different moments in time, and maybe there's more
(13:35):
of a Scottish British United Kingdom history connection that I'm
not seeing, but right, is there something here that we
need to know about? And also interspliced the people with
the masks on at the community, right like, there is
that moment where I don't know if it was the grandpa,
if it was some other character, but he's training young
(13:55):
boys to shoot bow and arrows and he's got a
mask on his head and right now and then we
would see somebody wearing that mask with blood.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Coming down from it.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
But we never got an answer to why they were
that that was so weird, And I thought, oh, like,
we're setting up to where the community because there's that
line that I think Jamie says where it's like you
don't talk to outsiders because they're you know, they're weird
or whatever. I was like, Oh, what if they're the
weird ones of the of the group and they're yeah,
see why.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
That is one of the reasons why I thought, Okay,
maybe what they should have done because this is possible.
And obviously they announced there's gonna be a couple more
after this I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Say at least three.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
It's possible this could should have been treated like a
part one part two, because that would make more sense,
like there's questions that we have, but stay tuned for
part two, kind of like Wicked.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
How Wicked was like.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Shot and filmed and then you're going to release it
year back to back years. That would have made more sense,
and I would have went into this being like, Okay, granted,
I we went in knowing that there was going to
be another one, but I also went into this thinking
this Killian Murphy.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Was going to be and he was not.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
A lot of people did, Like I was listening to
another reviewer say the same thing, and I was like, yeah,
I could have sworn it was confirmed that he was
going to be in this one, and he's nowhere to
be seen.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
And then people are like, oh, it's because he's going
to be in the next one. I'm like, yeah, but
you walk me through how that makes sense. He's in
because he was in all three. He was in the
other the first two. Yeah, he was in the first two.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
He was in the first one. I don't know I
was he in the second.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Don't right, I don't think he was in a second one.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, I don't think he was in the second one.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
The second one is like that one's a continuation, but
also because it's done by different people and everything, I
think only like Danny Boyle did like the opening bit
that which is the main bit that I remember of
the guy that basically abandons his family at the very
beginning of that movie.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
That's the only bit that I remember from that movie.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Yeah, like I heavily. I know I'm not the only one.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
There was something said that led us to believe he
was in his film, because I also know if you're
you're revamping a franchise, you're not gonna be like, hey,
we'll bring back Killy and Murphy in the one after
this one.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Sense he should have been in this one.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Right, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
And do you feel like it was a bait and
switch with with the way it was marketing in terms
of like Aaron Taylor Johnson I thought would be in
this movie a lot more.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, really, all I had.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I had a couple of people straight up flat out ass.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Me tell me the truth. Is this man in this
movie a lot? Or is it just a little bit?
Speaker 3 (16:19):
So I know before I even go in here or
if I should even go pay for this.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that it was.
I actually am saying it was. Intentionally, Yeah, it was.
It was very misleading. It was very misleading because.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
I didn't even think this little boy was that big
of a character.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I didn't think so either. I didn't realize it was
going to be the Spike story for this movie.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Yeah, Like I was.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Like, it didn't make it didn't make much sense. And
granted I understand him trying to like build a uh
build an I guess, uh like a franchise around New
fresh Blood. I guess you can say I get that,
but like, you don't bring an actor like Aaron Taylor
Johnson and then don't use him to his full capacity
because I really feel like he is a solid actor
(17:04):
and the poor guy's been taken taking some hits lately.
I know that Craven wasn't well received.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
What else? What else did he do recently that people
didn't really care for? There was something else, but.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
He's just ultimately he hasn't had like that standout role
where everyone's like, oh, we love him for that. Like
of course he got a little side of characters we
had him in kick Ass, we had him in as
Quicksilver and Avengers.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Bullet Trained.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
But he is first foremost, he's not old, like he's
still young, he's thirty four.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
That he has.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
The potential to be a really good actor if he's
placed in the right roles. And this I just was
so sure that this would be the one. Now, granted,
everyone loves it, so I know this is probably like
a very we're the minority, and I'm fine with that
because a lot of after me seeing my messages come through,
a lot of people that spoke up outside and said they.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Really liked it.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
On the side, they'd be like, you know what, you're
kind of right. I understood that, but y'all didn't want
to speak up in public. So the safe space, guys,
if you guys are listening and you didn't care for
the movie that much, you are in a safe space
because that third act was hell and nobody could tell
me it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Well, that's so wild, because we were I think it
was under embargo for like reviews and stuff until Wednesday
at four o'clock because we saw this movie. We actually
saw this movie together at our screening here in Houston.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
We saw it on.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Tuesday and the Bargo Lift the next day at four,
and I couldn't wait.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I was counting down.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Oh my gosh, literally the same I was waiting for
four o'clock because I was like, man, this movie's about
to get roasted, right, And then all of a sudden,
everyone's like this is genre defining and great and then
revamps the zombie.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
It was like, what movie did y'all?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Was like, well, that's what I said. I was like,
what the that wasn Excuse me? Yeah, I was like,
did we watch the same movie? Like were y'all high?
Were y'all drinking? And they serve open bar? Y'all? Thing
like and the granted, I am a bit you know.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
I hope if there are any people that are PR
studios listening, that you all respect the fact that we
are open, because how would you feel if somebody was
sitting there? Like I love your movie, I loved the Ilo,
I love Vallerina, I loved all these movies. Like you're
not showing any differentiality between what you're doing. And I
don't even know if differentiality as a word.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
But it sounds yeah, sounds like it could be on
Google somewhere.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I feel like I respect and I feel proud to
have a different opinion from everyone else, especially knowing a
lot of people just post it out there for pool quotes,
and for you guys who don't know what that is,
a pool quote is if you give a you know,
we're sent as journalists to give a small description of
how we felt after leave in the movie, and most
people take what they want to say something catchy, so
(19:33):
it gets puoled and they can say, oh.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
My god, I'm in a trailer. Those are cool moments.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
But I won't stand ten toes down and anything that's
gotten poolled for me. I got like seven quotes pooled
for Sinners, and that was such a great feeling because
all my friends like, all, I gotta go see it.
I don't know who would say that about this movie
and then confidently be like, Okay, well I didn't really,
I didn't really agree with that.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
That's that's that's wild, that's not that's not fair.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yeah, no, for sure, it's right. Now.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
It's sitting at eight with critics, sixty four percent with audiences.
I think the audiences are right on this because this
is this this movie. Let me let me think where
I want to go with this.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Well, wait, where'd you say the audience was? The audience
is the.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Sixty four percent Jesus yeah, yeah, But and I think
audience in this case. Normally I'm not with the audience
all the time. This case, I think audience is right.
I think it's more reflective of what we saw because
it I didn't mind it being a Spike movie, but
I did expect Aaron Taylor Johnson to be in there
(20:36):
a lot more. But I didn't expect so much like
unanswered questions and unanswered things and and unanswered setup.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I thought it would be.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I knew there was a second movie coming, but I
thought we would get a complete story here, and I
just don't feel like we did. And once we get
through that first bit, I always say this to people
when they ask me what I think. I think when
things start getting off the rails. It's when Eric is introduced,
not that he's a bad character. I thought this stuff
(21:10):
was funny about like when him and Spike are talking
about online and stuff like that, Like I like that
stuff and showing the girlfriend all that stuff. But then
it was again like a tonally, something's happening here that
I'm not understanding.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Quite somebody Sean and the dead mode.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yeah, because that's when stuff starts kicking off in terms
of being a little weird.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I don't want to say.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
And then Jason Momole running around with his meat out
like that was so distracted.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
That was so distracting.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
That was so like, I I mean, I get it,
like they're rage monsters and they're like just running around.
I get it, But can we put some shorts on
them or something like it didn't need to.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Be all like that or like, yeah, like make him
a kin doll or something.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
And then the girl giving birth with another issue because
it's like why was she I know, somebody else told me,
who's a mom?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
One of my friends is a mom.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
She said, oh, well, the motherly instincts showed that her
motherly instincts, despite her being infected, were to make sure
the baby got out safe and she was able to
hold uh Jody Jody's hand and delivered the baby and
immediately after she went back into.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
All right monster.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Yeah, but it was like, yeah, that was one of
the things where I was like, that's not adding up
because regardless if you're pregnant.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Or not, you should you're still not you know.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Like they like they should have somewhere hinted in the
film earlier like hey, there are some infected that still
have a slightly a slight part of their brain that's
charismatic or that's a understands or something like that, to
where they teased it where it's like, hey, you might
she might be one of the ones that's that's you
know good and then oh god, we haven't got to
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the end part.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
But when the little boy dropped that infected as baby off.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
To them and then dip that, well, I want to
go back to the pregnant baby pregnant infected because it
was say, like, what is this felt like an idea
from like Zack Snyder's Army of the Dead, you know
what I mean with like the evolution of Zong, like
the what I don't even know if they're they're not
really movie Danny Boyle, Alex Garland, y'all are super high
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right now, because it was it just felt like a
if we're going to talk about the evolution of and
the different types of it, like maybe make that more
of a focus and like you said, maybe hint at
that maybe there's still some cognitive function in there, because
especially with the way Ray Fines talks about his character,
talks about uh Sampson. That's the big alpha that we
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see his dong everywhere. The way he talks about him,
it's like he sounds like he's studying him. But we
don't really get into any of that, right Like it
just it feels like it's there and just presented without context,
and it just it's weird, like it does it does again.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
That's a that's the word. I think that's the best
way to describe a guys summary. The tone was all
all over the place, and I'll piggyback or I'll pickyback.
I'll co sign on that and give my receipts. With
the one scene that I felt like y'all were foul
for because anything that I'm watching and I'm sad and
you immediately try to make me laugh, there's a problem.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
And the skull thing was dark.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
To burn somebody's skull is you know, and burn their
body and all you have left the skull and you
got this whole mountain of skulls there.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
That was very interesting. But then the emotional pool the whole.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Time was what's going on with the like the mom
and then when we find out her diagnosis, and some
people had a problem with the fact that she was like, yeah,
I knew I had cancer, Like why the hell didn't
you tell me that you got your little boy out here?
Run around like yeah, Like why didn't y'all say something?
So my problem was you give this, you know, a
sad moment. First of all, y'all drug the boy, which
I get why you did it, but then like the
mom walks away and it's all within like this has
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to be within a couple of minutes. The boy don't
even get to really say bye to his mom. You
drug him, and then you come back a couple of
minutes later with a burnt skull, Like we're sitting there crying,
and then all of a sudden, I want to laugh
because I'm like, I know, y'all didn't just burn his
little boy's mom and present him with the skull within minutes.
It would have been better because he was tranquilized for
him to like maybe doze off into sleep and woke
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up and now it's light outside and now the skull
is sitting there and you zoom out and it's him
kind of like, you know, embracing the school.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
But we did that within minutes.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah, it just kind of happened so quick. That's where
it's like people talk about the emotional impact of this movie.
It had zero emotional impact for me in that moment,
especially with how seemingly close he is to his mom,
to not have that moment of realization or like I
get drugging him in that moment, but to not at
least give him a moment to say goodbye, because it's like,
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once we say it's cancer, it's like drug him and
then like let's go, we're putting you out of your misery.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
They old yellow her, yellow her, like real quick.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Like it's just it happened so quick, and then it
was like here you go, Spike, here's your mom's skull
and then go put it on a spot like this
is just yeah, that was such a that took me
out of the out of the way it was functioning
at that point. Because again, if we're talking about, oh,
we're pushing this kid to be an adult faster than
he should, and again this is a moment where that's
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the case, but you don't let him meet that challenge
because you drug him, like you know what I mean,
Like it just it doesn't make sense to me thematically
how you would do that, and especially if he is
so close to his mom, Like, there's much more of
a reaction that you're gonna give. And I don't hate
on Alfie Williams in that moment. I think it's just
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the wrong direction to take at that moment.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Yeah, And I feel like they robbed us of that
emotional impact that it had, because from that moment on,
nothing was the same.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
No, because then what happens, like after he places the skull,
we had one of the funniest moments of the movie,
I think, because Samson comes blazing in and the doctor
and Spike go underground. Samson almost gets the doctor and
the Doctor's like, you know, I think you should leave.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I like, Psyche, like, now you're you're about to die. Yeah,
it was just it was just all over the place.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
I mean, I feel like what I will say what
was work was like the oh oh, how do I
forget this? This happened in the beginning. That's that one
of the Actually you're talking about horror. For me, when
I get scared is when I put when I can
put myself in a in a situation that I'm watching
unfold on screen and feel the genuine fear, and there
is not.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
There's been a while.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
I can't think of anything off the top of my
head that was more scary to me than that.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
It was Alpha.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
When Alpha was charging Aaron Taylor Johnson his Spike, I
keep calling him this full name because I don't know,
I forget his character's name, Jamie. When Jamie and Spike
are running across that bridge, yeah, and and that and
that thing is chasing him, I was in fear because
I know what that. I know what that feels like.
Because if you we'm not saying I've been chased by before,
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I can not in Houston one, but I can. I
can feel what that feels like. You're trying to run
away from you, like about the and you're in the water.
That's the craziest thing. And like you can just duck
off and run up a tree or anything like that.
You are in water, so it's like like you could
either drown or you can get.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
You know, eaaten by this thing.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
But the music, the score behind that was so inappropriate, Yeah,
because it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
It was like whimsical. It was a whimsical tone that
was playing as this was happening, And I'm.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Like like what like why, like whose decision?
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Who proved this? Who saw this? And was like run it,
sit into the theaters.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
But and I like the tension that it was setting
up in that moment, and the tension of when Spike
and Jamie are like running from the infected and then
go to the house and they're trying to get up
into the attic and they're struggling with all that and they're.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
The zombies are coming out of us.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I thought that, like the tension was was great in
that moment, and I was like, we're really got something here.
And when they get out of the house and they
think they're made at home and then the alpha comes
barreling in, Like there's some cool moments in that. And
even like if you talk about like the alphas and
then there's the fat ones that kind of slug around
or whatever you call them. Like I don't mind when
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we talk about like evolutions of zombies, Like I get
there's gonna be some change, but like in this world,
it didn't make sense to me because the rage virus,
Like I'm confused now as to what the rage virus
does because if it's if they still have some cognitive function,
but they're not dead.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Are they dead?
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I don't really know anymore, especially if they're they're breeding,
Like it doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Yeah, that was another thing. Because they're breeding, It's like, wait, like,
what's really happening here? I think ultimately the bottom line
that I really took from everything knowing that now there
is another one. I mean, I forget when I was
watching it, I forgot that there was another one because
there was a lot of questions that I feel like
weren't answered. But what I did read some people say was, Hey,
that ending just set the tone for the next one,
meaning the X one's probably gonna be a little bit
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more I wouldn't say the word comedic, but a little
bit more lighthearted or.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Who's the other thing.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Oh, I didn't see anywhere that Jack O'Connell was going
to be in it. Yea said that they overly played
his role and they advertised that he was going to
be in it heavily, only to see him there those
couple of seconds that went that right there, when I
was sitting there thinking about how I felt about the
movie while I'm watching it, that killed it for me
because I'm like, yeah, y'all really aren't taking it serious,
because why are we doing Sean of.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
The Dead right now?
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Because when you it's like, okay, he gives Spike gives
zombie baby. That's a that's a zombie baby. I'm sorry,
Like that's I know, it's like the eyes, they're good,
but it came out of infected. It's probably infected. But
then it's like, Okay, Spike's on his own doing all
this and that it's like, Okay, I thought that's where
we were going to end the movie. Fine, if you
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leave it at that, okay, But then Jimmy and his
squad show up to start helping Spike in a sense.
But it's the the like you said, the tone just
if it wasn't shifted before, it really shifts then because then.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
They're doing parkoursuits.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
They got matching sweatsuits, and like it's just insanely like
you said, Seanna the Dead, you got some power rangers
in there, Like it's just absurd what happens there, and
it's just completely like for me, completely took me out
of the movie. And at that moment, I think we
were all laughing at the theater, and I was laughing
(31:32):
more at the movie than with the movie, because I
don't know if.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
That was played. I was like, what the hell is
what is happening right now?
Speaker 1 (31:39):
That's one of the This is one of the movies
where I was never more confused leaving than this one.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Yeah, yeah, no, for sure.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
I and this is me coming off of a high
of watching F one, which was not one of my
most anticipated movies of the year.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Reason being is I had no connection to F one.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
I didn't see any When I say, I saw no
promo for this movie initially, like there's posters, we knew
Brad Pitt was gonna be in it. I would see
the like the small little nippets or trailer clips or whatever.
But it wasn't anything like, Ooh, I need to sit
there and watch this because it's gonna be about F one.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
You know what you're going into watching.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
I don't need to know the plot, so I didn't
pay any attention to it, didn't give it a second thought.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
And the fact that I went into that and.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Had the most amazing experience that I want to say,
next to Sinners, that is one of the best movies I've.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Seen all year. I raved about it online.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Obviously they turned me into I've made a video and
they turned it into an ad and it's been all
over the social media. It's hard to avoid at this
point for me. But I loved that movie so much.
But it's crazy because I thought I was gonna feel
like that about this movie when I went in.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah, because you saw F one the day before, like literally.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
The day before. Like it was insane.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
The shift of Hey, this movie you thought nothing of
took away or took your breath away, and then this
movie you were excited for let you down.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Yeah, That's that's how I felt about Megan two point.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I saw that last night and I was like, wow,
I enjoyed my time more in this than I did
with twenty eight years later.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Well, because it doesn't try to be anything from what
I was.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
So I have not seen any of the Megans, but
I know that what people are saying is that it
knows what it is. It doesn't try to be anything
that it's not, and it's so unserious, but it knows
what it is exactly.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
That's exactly what it knows what it wants to be.
It knows what it is. They going from horror to
action comedy, smart move it works. It's so absurd. But
like you said, and like others are saying, it knows
what it wants to be, this one, I don't know
that it knows what it wants to be. It's just
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it's everywhere tonally. And the Jimmy aspect, because that's where
we open up the movie. I talked about the opening.
Really the opening is that young kid in the house.
Zombies come in eat everybody. He goes to his dad,
who's a priest, I guess or something like that. Priest
gets eating all that, and then we don't see Jimmy
at all. And then I think, I'm not entirely sure,
(34:08):
but there was that one scene where Jamie and Spike
find a guy upside down in the house and I
think Jimmy's written on his chest. Now I could not
make it out at the time, but I think it
was Jimmy. So there was like this hint sting at Jimmy.
But again, it doesn't feel like I just I don't
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feel the need for Jimmy, Like I just don't understand
the the aspect of Jimmy at all. Whether it was
that moment or like the little teases to him or whatever,
it just it rang hollow for me, and I know.
There's a person I follow who's talking about like they
love this movie, and they talk about, oh, if you
know the meaning of it, but that I don't like.
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This is not like a Marvel movie, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Like, I, yeah, i'story for I walk into it, right.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
I don't need this is not something where I should know, oh,
British history. I feel like to enjoy this movie, you know,
or get The.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
People were also like, hey, should I watch the first
two before? And I was like, man, you don't even
need to have seen any other movie.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
No, you really don't.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
And I think they've acknowledged that you can disregard the
events of twenty eight weeks later, but you twenty eight
days later for sure in this context, but you really don't.
And I was like, oh, man, I didn't get to
watch them beforehand. Really it doesn't matter. It really doesn't matter.
They kind of give you a brief synopsis as to
what's happened at the early portion of this movie. How
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the world just kind of lets this rage infested island
or country just stay like that. I don't know, but
I'll roll with it, I guess. But it's just it's
such a weird premise and then Jimmy just showing up
at Jack O'Connell like the actor, but like, just it's
such a weird way to go about it.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
I just I don't understand, and I just I can't,
for the life of me understand why that.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Was, why that was the move.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I think things are miss missed up because now, like
I don't really care to see the next one, Like
I'm I guess I'll see it because of the podcast
and everything, but I it's completely soured my my expectations
for anything coming out, and I want, like Nia DaCosta
is directing the next film, so I like, I want
(36:19):
to go see it because of Nia, But now like
I don't.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
I don't know, like it didn't. I just it didn't
do it for me.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
I'm I'm not gonna not watch it because I feel
like that's part of our.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
You know, right, yeah, exactly our job.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
But do I well I go in there having high expectations.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
But at the same time, it does have Killian and
Murphy too, So sometimes things like that matter because you're
getting now we're gonna see some aspect of how the
twenty eight Days Later storyline, how his character comes about
in dealing with Aaron Taylor.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
And that's nothing. Whoa okay, wait, what did you say?
His name was Jamie?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Why was he not looking for her little boy?
Speaker 1 (37:06):
So okay, So that's one of the points that so
the part of the reason why this podcast is happening
is because you and I were in a group DM
with Nadia of Gotham Geek Girl right on Instagram. Shout
out to Nadia. She couldn't make the review of this,
so we're gonna have to do this again with another movie.
But she mentioned that it was she had a a
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reviewer at her screening who is from who is Scottish
and knows the ins and outs of that area and
knows about like they explained it in the movie about
it being low tide and high tide and how you
can't like when it's high tide, you just can't leave
wherever you're at, like you're just stuck on that island
or whatever the case. But then when it's low tide
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you can cross the causeway, okay, And people were like, well,
that's why Jamie couldn't go seek out Spike or whatever.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
I was kind of with it, but then I was like,
wait a minute, Spike leaves zombie Baby on their front step. Yeah,
wouldn't that mean the causeway was down? So shouldn't Jamie
have been like ready to go as.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Soon as yeah, waiting at the gates? Yeah, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Like wait, what like that doesn't that doesn't make sense
to me, Like it's just it's it's a.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Weird like what are we what are we doing? I
don't understand that at.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
The table just like no, I would have been at
least looking outside, looking across the way, like trying to
figure something out.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Like no, because the way it's played, it's like, oh,
he's missed him, Like, oh I can't.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Oh my boy, But bro, you you could have left?
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Did you really?
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Exactly? Did you really? Like you didn't?
Speaker 1 (38:47):
So that's that's another aspect where I'm like, I just
I can't. There's certain things where it's like I'll roll
with it in a movie, like again, going back to
making two point zero, there's a lot of stuff I
just roll with it because it's.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Like whatever, Yeah, you're all right, because doesn't try to
be again, it does try to be too serious.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
No, you're here for a good time. We're gonna entertain
you and that's it.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
But this one, there's certain steps. I feel like it's
it's making me go where I should believe it or
I should believe this moment where he's freaking out, but
I don't. It rings emotionally hollow for me in a
lot of ways.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Well, that's tragic.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
I know it's so tragic, and I know the part
of me is also kind of frustrated because of the
fact that I know it's set up because right like Samson,
the Giant Alpha is gonna come after Zombie Baby and
Jamie's gonna go after Spike, So I imagine there's like
a head to head or something like that.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Yeah, I can see that, you.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Know, Like I figured that's where we're going. But it's
kind of like, uh, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
You know.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Again, there should have been a little bit more answers
in this movie than we get.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
I think that's one of my frustrations.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
That is the biggest frustration.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
My phone just went off right now because we have
a breaking news.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Guys, freaking news.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
This is important. I can't even say this man's last name.
The Vinnuf is set to direct the next James Bond film,
E and that's for me relevant because my number one,
Oh that's actually that is it's a kind of known
news that it's supposed to be Aaron Taylor Johnson. It
is because so it's supposed to be Aaron Taylor Johnson.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
I know that.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
There was a whole conversation and a while back, I'd
say like maybe six seven, eight months ago, there was
some there were reports came out that he was confirmed
to be the next Bond. And then I remember he
was at a premiere and people were taking a lot
of pictures of him and his pictures were everywhere because
they were like, he's the next Bond.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
And then recently he did an interview on.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
The carpet and was leaving the carpet and somebody asked
him I think it was even deadline. They were like, hey,
what's what's what's next year? What are you doing next
after this movie? And he was like, I can't talk
about it.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
It's clearly this.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
It's gotta be right, it's gotta be Yeah, I think
we know who are James Bond is, So that means
he doesn't survive the next next twenty eight years ago.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Like yeah, I acteel like kill him all because he
got somewhere else to go.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Film, he's got to go be bond for a little
while a little bit.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Yeah, which which if he is, I don't mind it.
And I also don't mind Denny Villain eve as the
as the director for it. You know, he's I like
his his vision more often than not. So I'm excited
for that that connection there.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
Yeah, I see for me, sometimes directors are what sell.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
It for me. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
And you would think with twenty eight years later, Danny
Boyle Alex Garland coming together again, like you would think
I had high expectations again and and nope, dashed hopes
dashed yep.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
And now I mean I want Aaron Taylor Johnson. I
have a great film.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
I am a big fan of his recent work, and
I have really strongly advocated that this man needs to
have a breakout role where he is the lead of something.
I thought Craven I the reason why Craven, and it
ain't even just Craven, It's any movie in this franchise really.
But I wanted a Sinister six so bad. Oh Yeah,
I wanted Sinister six, and I wanted Secret Wars. And
I'm getting my Secret Wars. But looks like that will
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never happen ever, because they have not managed to make
a single film from those cares.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Sony, I take the back.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
Sony hasn't managed to make a single film that has
got to the magnitude that some of the other ones have.
Of course we went outside of the Spider Man films. But
I want so badly. I think he deserves so badly
to have a standout film. I think he's a talented actor.
I loved him in Bullet Trained.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Yeah, he's fantastic in there. And I think he deserves
to have like something. And he has the looks, he
has the age.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
That's why whenever I.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
Initially wanted my fan cast or had my fan cast
for uh double seven, it was it was Tom Hardy.
But then Tom Hardy is getting older. I think he's
like fifty four, fifty two or something like that. And
then he's taken all these random projects. He did that,
he got mob Land, he know, he wrapped up Venom.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
What's the other one? He just did Crank or something
like that. Have it? Yeah, crazy ass movie.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
But like I could tell, based on him putting out
stuff like that, that man was nowhere near doing anything Bond related.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
We got as elbow.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
Out here taking different roles like I knew people's track work,
or shows you what they are and are not working
on Aaron saying that and then then picking a bond director.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Right, yeah, this this tells me it's probably Aaron, and
I put my money on it, and we can come
back to this podcast and see that I said that.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
We will spice this out, we'll put this on, we'll
mark it as Salise called it.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Yeah, this is my receipts.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
This is the receipts for sure.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
I don't think there's anything else really that I wanted
to mention about this movie. Any other points you wanted
to bring up about twenty eight years later, say something nice.
Here we go, say something nice about twenty eight years later.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
The movie isn't terrible.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
There you go. That was nice. Yeah, the movie's not terrible.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
It's just it's not it was.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
The way it comes off, the way it was written,
doesn't seem like it was like it feels like two
different people wrote this movie. Yeah, and somebody had a
sense of and that somebody was trying to make the
next best thing. And I feel like, if you're going
to revamp a franchise, to revive it, it has to
really work.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
You have a lot of eggs in your basket.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
Now, why people are saying that they loved it cinematically,
there are a lot of angles that people really like visually.
Let's also not forget this was shot on iPhones.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Yeah, that's what I was just about to say.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
This movie is entirely iPhone And if you see the
rigs and stuff, like, technically this movie looks good. I
like it the way it was shot, and it's amazing
that it was all shot on iPhone. It's just everything else.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Yeah. And then on top of that, like even me,
I mean, I don't mind.
Speaker 4 (44:36):
Speaking out about it, but I have critic friends that
on the side DM me.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Like even I mean he put a YouTube videout.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
Jeremy Johns, who's like one of the bigger YouTubers in
the film space. He even messaged me and was like, yeah,
like that was filmed on iPhone. I have a problem
with the grainy or like the I guess oversaturated filter
look that it had.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Or something like that. He said.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
And when I hear from people like that, I know
that been in the business for a while, then lets
me know that I'm not tripping that I am not
the only one that's not openly enjoying this. But there
are some moments where it's like this is a very
captivating film, but then it's a mess.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
I think that's that was my complaint on the card.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
It was like, this is a mess, like it has
parts that are really good, has the emotional pool, but
then you get sloppy and you make some questionable choices,
the number one being that audio that that sound the
music that did not correlate with what we were seeing transpire,
which was such a tragic, like tragic miss because that.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
Was some scary shit.
Speaker 4 (45:28):
Yeah, that was scary, like running across that and the
water is rising, like you can either drown or you're
gonna get eaten by this dude.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
And even then it was like close call and y'all
have this whimsical like la music playing.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
I was like what yeah, and that like it took
a giant bolt to put that thing down, Like it
was just it's a wild intense moment that Yeah, it's
kind of undercut by that.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
So I think that that's But ultimately the guys, I
know that we probably sound like we're crapping on this film,
And it's not just that, it is that we want
to shed light on the fact.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
That, hey, you guys can come out of the closet.
Speaker 4 (46:01):
If you guys don't like this film, it's okay, you're
not alone.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
I feel like I feel like it's a sport group
because so many people love this movie.
Speaker 4 (46:09):
I'm like, do we watch so many people out loud
said they love this movie and there's not enough people
that spoke up and said they didn't.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
And I'm not saying I hate the movie.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
It's just not what people are on a skalky Let's
put it this way, on scale.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
From one to ten.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
I found that with the elements and the way they
did things, I felt like it was a six.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
It wasn't a two. It wasn't a one or three.
It was a six for me.
Speaker 4 (46:27):
But the people that are coming out here saying it
was a ten out of ten best movie of the year,
like miss me with that, because y'all are lying, y'all
are got y'all paid.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Yeah, I put it.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
I would put it like six point five maybe, but
on the letterbox, I put it at a three star,
like I think it's okay.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
But it is.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
Then y'all made us hate Aaron Taylor Johnson's character because
he cheated on his wife with cancer.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Come on, yeah that yeah, I forgot about that too.
That does happen it? Uh, Spike sees it all like
a brutal.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Brutal yeah, and then it's like you a little boy.
Speaker 4 (46:59):
You can't bust an arrow at one of these infected
that's crawling around, sloppy gluttony like, but you can try
to pull a knife on.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Your dad, Like, come on, he's trying to man up
in that moment.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
It was crazy. He tried, he felt he tried.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Yeah, it didn't work out, so it did not.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
Well, we'll see with Jimmy and his crew how they
adopt Spike in the next one, because I imagine that's
part of the story for the next one. But we'll
have to wait and see on that. I think January
of next year, so we won't have to wait too long. Yeah,
is it really Yeah, I believe it's January twenty twenty six,
So we're we'll see what happens with Jimmy and Spike
(47:38):
and the rest of the squad, which all of them,
all of those people that show up at the end.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
If you look at the credits.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
All of them are Jimmy Something, Jimmy Snakes, Jimmy Jump,
I don't know whatever the then name. I just happened
to a glance right up right at the end, and
it's says Jimmy, and it's literally like seven eight jim
because there's a bunch of them that pop up at
the end.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Yeah, wild uh yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
So I don't know, if you're a big fan, I
guess watch this, but I would know just skip it,
hold off.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Save everybody for me.
Speaker 4 (48:14):
It's it's the people that like go to the movies
every week or every other two weeks. It's it's the
decision to choose do I watch this or that? If
you're going to the theater, go see F one. Yeah,
I love that movie, and I will say heavily see
that in imax. There are people that can play no,
it's a little bit predictable of a plot or whatever,
or they feel however they feel about Brad Pitt. And
I'm not here for all that. Here, I'm here for
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a good experience in a theater. And this delivered unlike
anything I feel like we've had in a while, like
that exhilarating feel. I can't think of the last time
I saw a movie that had that level of exhilarating,
like thrilling with sinners, but like exhilarating to where.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
It's like speed, like fast and ooh like fast and furious.
Speaker 4 (48:54):
The way that movie feels like the o G one
like fast five Fast five was the last one that
I was like super geek, like them dragging that damn
bank vault through Miami.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
That's that was exhilarating. That's how this feels. Go see F.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
One over this, go c F one, morol story, Go
c F one, go see making two point Oh. If
you want to laugh, like just want to have a
good life.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
You can go see twenty eight years Later.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
We also true, that's also true.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
I did not expect to laugh so much in twenty
eight years later as much as I did.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
I laughed a lot.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
Oh man, all right, Well that's gonna do it for
this special edition of Comic Cast. As always, you can
follow us on social media. I'm at producer Mike nine
seven five, Salise. Where can the people find find you online?
Speaker 3 (49:40):
You can find me on all socials.
Speaker 4 (49:42):
Threads has been my thing right now, Twitter, Instagram, They're all, hey, Shalise,
that's h e y salise C H A L I
C E and.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
Yeah, and then the website is Real Movie Junkie. That's
our e E L movie Junkie dot com.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
Go catch lasa's work on our website and online. Chelice,
you do a great job. Thank you again for stopping by.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
I appreciate it. Nice to have you.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
Thanks Anny, and we will talk to you guys on
issues six hundred and one next week.
Oh, hello there, Internet, Welcome to a special Comic Cast
one shot.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
For this one.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I wasn't necessarily going to plan to do this one,
like the plan wasn't in the cards to do this
spoiler review. But in the DMS we were talking and
it was like, we got to do this on record
and joining me for this special spoiler review of twenty
eight years later, which is all this podcast is going
to be a maybe some other stuff, but mainly twenty
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eight years later. Shalise Williams a real movie junkie. Shalise,
how are you hello?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I am doing great. Thanks for having me again. I
love it here.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Thank you for thank you for enjoying it here, loving
it here. Thank you again for joining us on issue
six hundred of Comic Cast.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
We really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
How was by the way, since we're on the topic,
how was the Comic Paluza for you?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
It was? It was great.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
I spent more money than I was initially planning to,
but I ran into some merch that was just really
hard to turn down. Of course, I'm a sucker for
anything astral world related, especially when it see og like
font and all those things, So yeah, I dove into
that and then spent three hours in line waiting to
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give my Hayden Christensen signature.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Fun times, great times. See.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I think I saw that astral World stuff too, because
me and my friend Jennifer Chang, who was there taking
photos for the for Comic Loser, we walked by that
booth that had all the.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Astral World stuff and I was like, Oh, that's cool,
that's legit.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah, that was awesome.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
I went into a deep dive one time looking for
merged from back then, and if I really think about it,
I'm sure people have it, but it was so long
ago that.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I don't see it being like.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
It wasn't anything like, oh, a vintage jersey or a
vintage like it was stuff that we were wearing to
the pool. It was probably you know, it's probably people
probably find it as not something that was worth keeping
back then. So I'm doubting that it's at any kind
of good condition so enough for people to feel the
need to sell it.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, yeah, that's the condition. Wise, may not be the
best we'll see, But speaking of what's not the best
twenty eight years later, which is what we're going to
be talking about again. Full spoilers ahead. If you haven't
watched twenty eight years later. Skip this podcast, because that's
the way. That's all it's going to be the rest
of the way. I want to start off kind of generally, though,
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and start off with expectations for this movie because I
asked Jong this on I think it was issue five
ninety nine of comcasts, like, what was his expectations going
into it? Because I know mine were very high. After
watching that first trailer come out, I didn't watch anything
else after that. I was sold from the jump. I
liked twenty eight days later the original one, so I
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was like, I'm in So what were your expectations going
into it? Shalise of twenty eight years later.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
When I heard that woman giving out those numbers whatever audio,
that was yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Banger incoming, banger. That's all I needed to hear. I
was sold. And then you put Aaron Taylor Johnson in it.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Mind you, from my understanding, he wasn't talking in the trailer,
so I was sold. I don't really care for the
accent he carried in the film, but I was sold.
I was like disfranchised. In order for it to even
be revamped after so long, had to have a solid.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Well known lead that was my thought.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
So when I saw the trailer and then I saw
I heard that audio, I was like, this is gonna
be phenomenal. And I only watched that first trailer. And
that's how I've been doing things. I've only been watching
a first trailer. I know, Fantastic Four drop like three trailers,
the last one today and I didn't even watch it
because I'm just like, you take my money, I'm sold.
And that's how I felt about this one.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, that's what I was too, because yeah, that the
way they structured that trailer and that that audio you mentioned,
it's like from one hundred and ten year old recording,
and it was like it just it set the tone
for what this film could be, and I was like, Okay,
I'm in.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I'm sold this.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I had high expectations going into this one, and I
fully expected this one to be one of my favorite
movies of the year, and for the first half it
felt like it to a certain extent, like it it
was good.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
And then the second half.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Happens, and I think that was my bigger issue was
that I had, like I had, like Snoop Dogg, high expectations,
and it was that was my problem. I think That's
where I went wrong was having SUCHI expectations because I
was like, wait a.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Minute, what I what was I watching? Like, what was
that first trailer like? Because I really feel like I
missed something.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Because also because so last night I watched Megan two
point zero, I had very low expectations for going into
that and I ended up enjoying it more than I
enjoyed twenty eight years later, which is insane, wow, insane
to me. I was not a fan of Megan no,
like the first one was. The first one was fine,
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don't get me wrong, but like Megan two point oh
was fun, Like that was just a fun movie, and
it superseded my expectations based off that first trailer. That
first trailer made me go, oh, that's this is gonna
be a train wreck, and it was not. And this one,
twenty eight years later had me sold on the first
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trailer and it just it just lost me. I guess
let's start with that first half where it does work,
and I think the one thing for me that really worked,
especially like early on there's this dark tone and also
just kind of this I don't I don't want to
say cult like thing going on with the community, but
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this this like notion of pushing Spike, who is our
main character obviously for this movie, pushing him to become
a man of this community, with this whole like when
you're twelve or fourteen you go out and get your
first kill sort of situation. And I was like, Okay,
this is an interesting premise. I'm locked in. And with
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the way Aaron Taylor Johnson and Alfie Williams were playing
off each other like I was, I was sold for
the first bit of that movie. I thought it was
an interesting place to start off. Would you think of
that starting.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Off light for it?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Yeah? I that is one.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
So when I think of the list of things I
had a problem with, and maybe I missed it and
you and you caught it. But I was trying to
understand the purpose of venturing out past safe space, like
what was the purpose and if it's what you said
and I missed it where it's like, hey, once you
turn a certain age, we're gonna take you to get
your first kill. That that flew over my head because
I was wondering, if we're safe here, why the hell
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are we going past this?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
And I thought.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
About the Last of Us, how they had that same
kind of setup where it's like, we have a little town,
we have an area you go past these you know,
this guarded wooden fence that's heavily guarded when you go past, Like,
why would they go out there voluntarily? And I know
they were going out there getting supplies in the last
of us, but I was trying to figure out what the.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Purpose of this was. And Yeah, that that right there
threw me for a loop.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Me. That was the first thing I could say through
me for a little I didn't feel like they expanded
on that.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
See, like to me, it really hit for me just
because I like, I've never related, well, I shouldn't say
that I related very much to Spike in that moment
because growing up I'm my mom and dad split when
I was three, so I didn't have I didn't have
a closer relationship with my dad. And you know, it
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was that thing where he takes me every other weekend
sort of thing. And he took me hunting a few times,
and one of those things was pushing to get that
first kill, you know, of the first hunt or whatever.
And that's why that's what this felt, especially with the
way the community like celebrates him and says good luck
Spike and Da da da dah, like the way they're
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like cheering them on and everything.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
But they were hyping him up. And that was another
one of my best problem number two. They were gassing
him up, and even he was like it wasn't even
that big of a deal or but I didn't really
kill him or it was weak, like even he was
speaking for me, because I was like, why are we
guessing a little boy?
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Oh, like he did some crazy phenomenal job. He did not.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
And that's the thing where this is where it hooked
me in. And I was like, oh, this is good.
I like where it's going because the same thing happened
to me, not quite the same obviously, no rage, virus,
monster or anything like that, but it was I went
on a hunt with my dad. My dad was like,
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we're you know, dear blind all that type of stuff,
and it's early in the morning and he sees a
buck and he's like, you want, you want, it's your chance.
I was like, nah, I'm good, you get you get that,
I'll get the next one.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
That's what I said. I'm a twelve year old kid,
thirteen year old kid. I didn't know what I was saying.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
He gets it and on the way back he's saying, Oh,
when we get back, we're gonna tell him it was you.
And it was that whole thing of like we get
back to the camp and they're all like.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Oh, Michael, da da da da.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
And it was the same, like that pressure of like
feeling like you're part of the group, part of the
man group now, you know what I mean, Like you're
you're a big man now because you killed this this creature.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
When it's actuality, I didn't do anything.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I didn't that was a biopic.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, it was my biopic, it really, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
It's like and this the same thing with like I
think they were forcing Spike to drink at one point
and like part of my family did that where it
was like here have a beer, Like I don't really
want it, Here have a beer. And it's like all
that stuff was like, Okay, they have something interesting here
to say about like maybe pushing kids to to do
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these things a lot earlier and like a familiar relationship
all that type of stuff. So like that aspect of
the movie I thought was interesting and I thought could
maybe play into something deeper and darker because they hint
at something at least it felt like to me deeper
and darker with yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
That's you're absolutely right. I felt like, what is the
reason that we're doing this? Are we like, hey, we
want to start to teach him because if you know,
as a parent, if he get you know, if Aaron
Tyler Johnson's character got killed, he needs to be able
to make sure his son or I mean, nothing to
do once he's dead, but if he should one know, safely, Hey,
my son is gonna be able to take care of himself.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I taught him, see, And I like that.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I like that setup, and I think it's a smart
angle to take with with this, especially with the community
that's been around for so long. And like, like you said,
there's no need for them to go outside of the
safe space outside of maybe gathering supplies here and or
something like that. But this, like this set up as
to why they would go out and venture that far
into a danger zone if you will. Like that, that
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all made sense to me and I like that aspect.
But one of the first signs where I was like,
I don't know about this was when Spike sees the
fire off in the distance and you know, he talks
to I think it's the grandpa or whatever about like
what's the fire in the Grandpa's like, oh, it's it's
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the doctor and he the dad won't tell him and
then finally tells him and it's like, oh, he has
all these bodies laid out and he waved us over
and I'm like, he just waved at you, bro, like
what are you talking about? You made it sound like
this deep, darker thing. And I guess you could say
that's like, oh, well, kids do that, they make something
out of nothing. But to me, that's where a crack
started showing in the in the plot armor if you will.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Yeah, I think that there was there was a lot to.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
There's a lot to unpack, and I think that it's
I feel like the first the part of the movie
that I enjoyed and I'm breaking into three the first
third of the film that does have Aaron Taylor Johnson's
character heavily involved. I feel like there I felt, I
felt I want to say the word lost, but I
felt like, what is the reason for this? Like why
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are we, like I said, why are we trying to
figure out or make sure this this kid can find
for himself.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
You're hyping him up.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
He clearly can't, so you're not really confident this boy
is gonna be able to find for himself. And then
you're not expressing any anger towards him when he messes up,
because he does, and you're just tell him you're coddling.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Him, like no, it's okay. So I'm like, no, it's
not okay.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Like if this was a real life situation, need you
to not be scared, you need to like be a man,
and he wasn't, So I was like, okay, I'm still
wondering why we're doing this second of all, like what's
going on with the mom Like yeah, yeah, Like it
was just I had so many have more questions and
I had answers, and then I feel like even at
the end of the movie, the questions that I had
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still were not answered.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
And that's when one of my bigger problems came.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I think one of the biggest problems is this movie
feels more set up than actual like completing a story.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Right, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Because like when I mentioned about like hinting at something
darker with this community, there's that they intersplice these moments,
especially early on where it's you know, the young boys
like from classic footage or whatever, preparing young men for
battles and different moments in time, and maybe there's more
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of a Scottish British United Kingdom history connection that I'm
not seeing, but right, is there something here that we
need to know about? And also interspliced the people with
the masks on at the community, right like, there is
that moment where I don't know if it was the grandpa,
if it was some other character, but he's training young
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boys to shoot bow and arrows and he's got a
mask on his head and right now and then we
would see somebody wearing that mask with blood.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Coming down from it.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
But we never got an answer to why they were
that that was so weird, And I thought, oh, like,
we're setting up to where the community because there's that
line that I think Jamie says where it's like you
don't talk to outsiders because they're you know, they're weird
or whatever. I was like, Oh, what if they're the
weird ones of the of the group and they're yeah,
see why.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
That is one of the reasons why I thought, Okay,
maybe what they should have done because this is possible.
And obviously they announced there's gonna be a couple more
after this I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Say at least three.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
It's possible this could should have been treated like a
part one part two, because that would make more sense,
like there's questions that we have, but stay tuned for
part two, kind of like Wicked.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
How Wicked was like.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Shot and filmed and then you're going to release it
year back to back years. That would have made more sense,
and I would have went into this being like, Okay, granted,
I we went in knowing that there was going to
be another one, but I also went into this thinking
this Killian Murphy.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Was going to be and he was not.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
A lot of people did, Like I was listening to
another reviewer say the same thing, and I was like, yeah,
I could have sworn it was confirmed that he was
going to be in this one, and he's nowhere to
be seen.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
And then people are like, oh, it's because he's going
to be in the next one. I'm like, yeah, but
you walk me through how that makes sense. He's in
because he was in all three. He was in the
other the first two. Yeah, he was in the first two.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
He was in the first one. I don't know I
was he in the second.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Don't right, I don't think he was in a second one.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, I don't think he was in the second one.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
The second one is like that one's a continuation, but
also because it's done by different people and everything, I
think only like Danny Boyle did like the opening bit
that which is the main bit that I remember of
the guy that basically abandons his family at the very
beginning of that movie.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
That's the only bit that I remember from that movie.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Yeah, like I heavily. I know I'm not the only one.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
There was something said that led us to believe he
was in his film, because I also know if you're
you're revamping a franchise, you're not gonna be like, hey,
we'll bring back Killy and Murphy in the one after
this one.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Sense he should have been in this one.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Right, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
And do you feel like it was a bait and
switch with with the way it was marketing in terms
of like Aaron Taylor Johnson I thought would be in
this movie a lot more.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, really, all I had.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I had a couple of people straight up flat out ass.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Me tell me the truth. Is this man in this
movie a lot? Or is it just a little bit?
Speaker 3 (16:19):
So I know before I even go in here or
if I should even go pay for this.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that it was.
I actually am saying it was. Intentionally, Yeah, it was.
It was very misleading. It was very misleading because.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
I didn't even think this little boy was that big
of a character.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I didn't think so either. I didn't realize it was
going to be the Spike story for this movie.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Yeah, Like I was.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Like, it didn't make it didn't make much sense. And
granted I understand him trying to like build a uh
build an I guess, uh like a franchise around New
fresh Blood. I guess you can say I get that,
but like, you don't bring an actor like Aaron Taylor
Johnson and then don't use him to his full capacity
because I really feel like he is a solid actor
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and the poor guy's been taken taking some hits lately.
I know that Craven wasn't well received.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
What else? What else did he do recently that people
didn't really care for? There was something else, but.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
He's just ultimately he hasn't had like that standout role
where everyone's like, oh, we love him for that. Like
of course he got a little side of characters we
had him in kick Ass, we had him in as
Quicksilver and Avengers.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Bullet Trained.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
But he is first foremost, he's not old, like he's
still young, he's thirty four.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
That he has.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
The potential to be a really good actor if he's
placed in the right roles. And this I just was
so sure that this would be the one. Now, granted,
everyone loves it, so I know this is probably like
a very we're the minority, and I'm fine with that
because a lot of after me seeing my messages come through,
a lot of people that spoke up outside and said they.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Really liked it.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
On the side, they'd be like, you know what, you're
kind of right. I understood that, but y'all didn't want
to speak up in public. So the safe space, guys,
if you guys are listening and you didn't care for
the movie that much, you are in a safe space
because that third act was hell and nobody could tell
me it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Well, that's so wild, because we were I think it
was under embargo for like reviews and stuff until Wednesday
at four o'clock because we saw this movie. We actually
saw this movie together at our screening here in Houston.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
We saw it on.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Tuesday and the Bargo Lift the next day at four,
and I couldn't wait.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I was counting down.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Oh my gosh, literally the same I was waiting for
four o'clock because I was like, man, this movie's about
to get roasted, right, And then all of a sudden,
everyone's like this is genre defining and great and then
revamps the zombie.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
It was like, what movie did y'all?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Was like, well, that's what I said. I was like,
what the that wasn Excuse me? Yeah, I was like,
did we watch the same movie? Like were y'all high?
Were y'all drinking? And they serve open bar? Y'all? Thing
like and the granted, I am a bit you know.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
I hope if there are any people that are PR
studios listening, that you all respect the fact that we
are open, because how would you feel if somebody was
sitting there? Like I love your movie, I loved the Ilo,
I love Vallerina, I loved all these movies. Like you're
not showing any differentiality between what you're doing. And I
don't even know if differentiality as a word.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
But it sounds yeah, sounds like it could be on
Google somewhere.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I feel like I respect and I feel proud to
have a different opinion from everyone else, especially knowing a
lot of people just post it out there for pool quotes,
and for you guys who don't know what that is,
a pool quote is if you give a you know,
we're sent as journalists to give a small description of
how we felt after leave in the movie, and most
people take what they want to say something catchy, so
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it gets puoled and they can say, oh.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
My god, I'm in a trailer. Those are cool moments.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
But I won't stand ten toes down and anything that's
gotten poolled for me. I got like seven quotes pooled
for Sinners, and that was such a great feeling because
all my friends like, all, I gotta go see it.
I don't know who would say that about this movie
and then confidently be like, Okay, well I didn't really,
I didn't really agree with that.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
That's that's that's wild, that's not that's not fair.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yeah, no, for sure, it's right. Now.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
It's sitting at eight with critics, sixty four percent with audiences.
I think the audiences are right on this because this
is this this movie. Let me let me think where
I want to go with this.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Well, wait, where'd you say the audience was? The audience
is the.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Sixty four percent Jesus yeah, yeah, But and I think
audience in this case. Normally I'm not with the audience
all the time. This case, I think audience is right.
I think it's more reflective of what we saw because
it I didn't mind it being a Spike movie, but
I did expect Aaron Taylor Johnson to be in there
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a lot more. But I didn't expect so much like
unanswered questions and unanswered things and and unanswered setup.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I thought it would be.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I knew there was a second movie coming, but I
thought we would get a complete story here, and I
just don't feel like we did. And once we get
through that first bit, I always say this to people
when they ask me what I think. I think when
things start getting off the rails. It's when Eric is introduced,
not that he's a bad character. I thought this stuff
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was funny about like when him and Spike are talking
about online and stuff like that, Like I like that
stuff and showing the girlfriend all that stuff. But then
it was again like a tonally, something's happening here that
I'm not understanding.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Quite somebody Sean and the dead mode.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yeah, because that's when stuff starts kicking off in terms
of being a little weird.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I don't want to say.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
And then Jason Momole running around with his meat out
like that was so distracted.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
That was so distracting.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
That was so like, I I mean, I get it,
like they're rage monsters and they're like just running around.
I get it, But can we put some shorts on
them or something like it didn't need to.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Be all like that or like, yeah, like make him
a kin doll or something.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
And then the girl giving birth with another issue because
it's like why was she I know, somebody else told me,
who's a mom?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
One of my friends is a mom.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
She said, oh, well, the motherly instincts showed that her
motherly instincts, despite her being infected, were to make sure
the baby got out safe and she was able to
hold uh Jody Jody's hand and delivered the baby and
immediately after she went back into.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
All right monster.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Yeah, but it was like, yeah, that was one of
the things where I was like, that's not adding up
because regardless if you're pregnant.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Or not, you should you're still not you know.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Like they like they should have somewhere hinted in the
film earlier like hey, there are some infected that still
have a slightly a slight part of their brain that's
charismatic or that's a understands or something like that, to
where they teased it where it's like, hey, you might
she might be one of the ones that's that's you
know good and then oh god, we haven't got to
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the end part.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
But when the little boy dropped that infected as baby off.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
To them and then dip that, well, I want to
go back to the pregnant baby pregnant infected because it
was say, like, what is this felt like an idea
from like Zack Snyder's Army of the Dead, you know
what I mean with like the evolution of Zong, like
the what I don't even know if they're they're not
really movie Danny Boyle, Alex Garland, y'all are super high
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right now, because it was it just felt like a
if we're going to talk about the evolution of and
the different types of it, like maybe make that more
of a focus and like you said, maybe hint at
that maybe there's still some cognitive function in there, because
especially with the way Ray Fines talks about his character,
talks about uh Sampson. That's the big alpha that we
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see his dong everywhere. The way he talks about him,
it's like he sounds like he's studying him. But we
don't really get into any of that, right Like it
just it feels like it's there and just presented without context,
and it just it's weird, like it does it does again.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
That's a that's the word. I think that's the best
way to describe a guys summary. The tone was all
all over the place, and I'll piggyback or I'll pickyback.
I'll co sign on that and give my receipts. With
the one scene that I felt like y'all were foul
for because anything that I'm watching and I'm sad and
you immediately try to make me laugh, there's a problem.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
And the skull thing was dark.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
To burn somebody's skull is you know, and burn their
body and all you have left the skull and you
got this whole mountain of skulls there.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
That was very interesting. But then the emotional pool the whole.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Time was what's going on with the like the mom
and then when we find out her diagnosis, and some
people had a problem with the fact that she was like, yeah,
I knew I had cancer, Like why the hell didn't
you tell me that you got your little boy out here?
Run around like yeah, Like why didn't y'all say something?
So my problem was you give this, you know, a
sad moment. First of all, y'all drug the boy, which
I get why you did it, but then like the
mom walks away and it's all within like this has
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to be within a couple of minutes. The boy don't
even get to really say bye to his mom. You
drug him, and then you come back a couple of
minutes later with a burnt skull, Like we're sitting there crying,
and then all of a sudden, I want to laugh
because I'm like, I know, y'all didn't just burn his
little boy's mom and present him with the skull within minutes.
It would have been better because he was tranquilized for
him to like maybe doze off into sleep and woke
(25:08):
up and now it's light outside and now the skull
is sitting there and you zoom out and it's him
kind of like, you know, embracing the school.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
But we did that within minutes.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah, it just kind of happened so quick. That's where
it's like people talk about the emotional impact of this movie.
It had zero emotional impact for me in that moment,
especially with how seemingly close he is to his mom,
to not have that moment of realization or like I
get drugging him in that moment, but to not at
least give him a moment to say goodbye, because it's like,
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once we say it's cancer, it's like drug him and
then like let's go, we're putting you out of your misery.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
They old yellow her, yellow her, like real quick.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Like it's just it happened so quick, and then it
was like here you go, Spike, here's your mom's skull
and then go put it on a spot like this
is just yeah, that was such a that took me
out of the out of the way it was functioning
at that point. Because again, if we're talking about, oh,
we're pushing this kid to be an adult faster than
he should, and again this is a moment where that's
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the case, but you don't let him meet that challenge
because you drug him, like you know what I mean,
Like it just it doesn't make sense to me thematically
how you would do that, and especially if he is
so close to his mom, Like, there's much more of
a reaction that you're gonna give. And I don't hate
on Alfie Williams in that moment. I think it's just
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the wrong direction to take at that moment.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Yeah, And I feel like they robbed us of that
emotional impact that it had, because from that moment on,
nothing was the same.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
No, because then what happens, like after he places the skull,
we had one of the funniest moments of the movie,
I think, because Samson comes blazing in and the doctor
and Spike go underground. Samson almost gets the doctor and
the Doctor's like, you know, I think you should leave.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I like, Psyche, like, now you're you're about to die. Yeah,
it was just it was just all over the place.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
I mean, I feel like what I will say what
was work was like the oh oh, how do I
forget this? This happened in the beginning. That's that one
of the Actually you're talking about horror. For me, when
I get scared is when I put when I can
put myself in a in a situation that I'm watching
unfold on screen and feel the genuine fear, and there
is not.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
There's been a while.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
I can't think of anything off the top of my
head that was more scary to me than that.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
It was Alpha.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
When Alpha was charging Aaron Taylor Johnson his Spike, I
keep calling him this full name because I don't know,
I forget his character's name, Jamie. When Jamie and Spike
are running across that bridge, yeah, and and that and
that thing is chasing him, I was in fear because
I know what that. I know what that feels like.
Because if you we'm not saying I've been chased by before,
(27:55):
I can not in Houston one, but I can. I
can feel what that feels like. You're trying to run
away from you, like about the and you're in the water.
That's the craziest thing. And like you can just duck
off and run up a tree or anything like that.
You are in water, so it's like like you could
either drown or you can get.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
You know, eaaten by this thing.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
But the music, the score behind that was so inappropriate, Yeah,
because it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
It was like whimsical. It was a whimsical tone that
was playing as this was happening, And I'm.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Like like what like why, like whose decision?
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Who proved this? Who saw this? And was like run it,
sit into the theaters.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
But and I like the tension that it was setting
up in that moment, and the tension of when Spike
and Jamie are like running from the infected and then
go to the house and they're trying to get up
into the attic and they're struggling with all that and they're.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
The zombies are coming out of us.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I thought that, like the tension was was great in
that moment, and I was like, we're really got something here.
And when they get out of the house and they
think they're made at home and then the alpha comes
barreling in, Like there's some cool moments in that. And
even like if you talk about like the alphas and
then there's the fat ones that kind of slug around
or whatever you call them. Like I don't mind when
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we talk about like evolutions of zombies, Like I get
there's gonna be some change, but like in this world,
it didn't make sense to me because the rage virus,
Like I'm confused now as to what the rage virus
does because if it's if they still have some cognitive function,
but they're not dead.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Are they dead?
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I don't really know anymore, especially if they're they're breeding,
Like it doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Yeah, that was another thing. Because they're breeding, It's like, wait, like,
what's really happening here? I think ultimately the bottom line
that I really took from everything knowing that now there
is another one. I mean, I forget when I was
watching it, I forgot that there was another one because
there was a lot of questions that I feel like
weren't answered. But what I did read some people say was, Hey,
that ending just set the tone for the next one,
meaning the X one's probably gonna be a little bit
(30:01):
more I wouldn't say the word comedic, but a little
bit more lighthearted or.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Who's the other thing.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Oh, I didn't see anywhere that Jack O'Connell was going
to be in it. Yea said that they overly played
his role and they advertised that he was going to
be in it heavily, only to see him there those
couple of seconds that went that right there, when I
was sitting there thinking about how I felt about the
movie while I'm watching it, that killed it for me
because I'm like, yeah, y'all really aren't taking it serious,
because why are we doing Sean of.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
The Dead right now?
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Because when you it's like, okay, he gives Spike gives
zombie baby. That's a that's a zombie baby. I'm sorry,
Like that's I know, it's like the eyes, they're good,
but it came out of infected. It's probably infected. But
then it's like, Okay, Spike's on his own doing all
this and that it's like, Okay, I thought that's where
we were going to end the movie. Fine, if you
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leave it at that, okay, But then Jimmy and his
squad show up to start helping Spike in a sense.
But it's the the like you said, the tone just
if it wasn't shifted before, it really shifts then because then.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
They're doing parkoursuits.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
They got matching sweatsuits, and like it's just insanely like
you said, Seanna the Dead, you got some power rangers
in there, Like it's just absurd what happens there, and
it's just completely like for me, completely took me out
of the movie. And at that moment, I think we
were all laughing at the theater, and I was laughing
(31:32):
more at the movie than with the movie, because I
don't know if.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
That was played. I was like, what the hell is
what is happening right now?
Speaker 1 (31:39):
That's one of the This is one of the movies
where I was never more confused leaving than this one.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Yeah, yeah, no, for sure.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
I and this is me coming off of a high
of watching F one, which was not one of my
most anticipated movies of the year.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Reason being is I had no connection to F one.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
I didn't see any When I say, I saw no
promo for this movie initially, like there's posters, we knew
Brad Pitt was gonna be in it. I would see
the like the small little nippets or trailer clips or whatever.
But it wasn't anything like, Ooh, I need to sit
there and watch this because it's gonna be about F one.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
You know what you're going into watching.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
I don't need to know the plot, so I didn't
pay any attention to it, didn't give it a second thought.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
And the fact that I went into that and.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Had the most amazing experience that I want to say,
next to Sinners, that is one of the best movies I've.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Seen all year. I raved about it online.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Obviously they turned me into I've made a video and
they turned it into an ad and it's been all
over the social media. It's hard to avoid at this
point for me. But I loved that movie so much.
But it's crazy because I thought I was gonna feel
like that about this movie when I went in.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah, because you saw F one the day before, like literally.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
The day before. Like it was insane.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
The shift of Hey, this movie you thought nothing of
took away or took your breath away, and then this
movie you were excited for let you down.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Yeah, That's that's how I felt about Megan two point.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I saw that last night and I was like, wow,
I enjoyed my time more in this than I did
with twenty eight years later.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Well, because it doesn't try to be anything from what
I was.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
So I have not seen any of the Megans, but
I know that what people are saying is that it
knows what it is. It doesn't try to be anything
that it's not, and it's so unserious, but it knows
what it is exactly.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
That's exactly what it knows what it wants to be.
It knows what it is. They going from horror to
action comedy, smart move it works. It's so absurd. But
like you said, and like others are saying, it knows
what it wants to be, this one, I don't know
that it knows what it wants to be. It's just
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it's everywhere tonally. And the Jimmy aspect, because that's where
we open up the movie. I talked about the opening.
Really the opening is that young kid in the house.
Zombies come in eat everybody. He goes to his dad,
who's a priest, I guess or something like that. Priest
gets eating all that, and then we don't see Jimmy
at all. And then I think, I'm not entirely sure,
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but there was that one scene where Jamie and Spike
find a guy upside down in the house and I
think Jimmy's written on his chest. Now I could not
make it out at the time, but I think it
was Jimmy. So there was like this hint sting at Jimmy.
But again, it doesn't feel like I just I don't
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feel the need for Jimmy, Like I just don't understand
the the aspect of Jimmy at all. Whether it was
that moment or like the little teases to him or whatever,
it just it rang hollow for me, and I know.
There's a person I follow who's talking about like they
love this movie, and they talk about, oh, if you
know the meaning of it, but that I don't like.
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This is not like a Marvel movie, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Like, I, yeah, i'story for I walk into it, right.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
I don't need this is not something where I should know, oh,
British history. I feel like to enjoy this movie, you know,
or get The.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
People were also like, hey, should I watch the first
two before? And I was like, man, you don't even
need to have seen any other movie.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
No, you really don't.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
And I think they've acknowledged that you can disregard the
events of twenty eight weeks later, but you twenty eight
days later for sure in this context, but you really don't.
And I was like, oh, man, I didn't get to
watch them beforehand. Really it doesn't matter. It really doesn't matter.
They kind of give you a brief synopsis as to
what's happened at the early portion of this movie. How
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the world just kind of lets this rage infested island
or country just stay like that. I don't know, but
I'll roll with it, I guess. But it's just it's
such a weird premise and then Jimmy just showing up
at Jack O'Connell like the actor, but like, just it's
such a weird way to go about it.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
I just I don't understand, and I just I can't,
for the life of me understand why that.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Was, why that was the move.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I think things are miss missed up because now, like
I don't really care to see the next one, Like
I'm I guess I'll see it because of the podcast
and everything, but I it's completely soured my my expectations
for anything coming out, and I want, like Nia DaCosta
is directing the next film, so I like, I want
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to go see it because of Nia, But now like
I don't.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
I don't know, like it didn't. I just it didn't
do it for me.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
I'm I'm not gonna not watch it because I feel
like that's part of our.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
You know, right, yeah, exactly our job.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
But do I well I go in there having high expectations.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
But at the same time, it does have Killian and
Murphy too, So sometimes things like that matter because you're
getting now we're gonna see some aspect of how the
twenty eight Days Later storyline, how his character comes about
in dealing with Aaron Taylor.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
And that's nothing. Whoa okay, wait, what did you say?
His name was Jamie?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Why was he not looking for her little boy?
Speaker 1 (37:06):
So okay, So that's one of the points that so
the part of the reason why this podcast is happening
is because you and I were in a group DM
with Nadia of Gotham Geek Girl right on Instagram. Shout
out to Nadia. She couldn't make the review of this,
so we're gonna have to do this again with another movie.
But she mentioned that it was she had a a
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reviewer at her screening who is from who is Scottish
and knows the ins and outs of that area and
knows about like they explained it in the movie about
it being low tide and high tide and how you
can't like when it's high tide, you just can't leave
wherever you're at, like you're just stuck on that island
or whatever the case. But then when it's low tide
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you can cross the causeway, okay, And people were like, well,
that's why Jamie couldn't go seek out Spike or whatever.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
I was kind of with it, but then I was like,
wait a minute, Spike leaves zombie Baby on their front step. Yeah,
wouldn't that mean the causeway was down? So shouldn't Jamie
have been like ready to go as.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Soon as yeah, waiting at the gates? Yeah, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Like wait, what like that doesn't that doesn't make sense
to me, Like it's just it's it's a.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Weird like what are we what are we doing? I
don't understand that at.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
The table just like no, I would have been at
least looking outside, looking across the way, like trying to
figure something out.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Like no, because the way it's played, it's like, oh,
he's missed him, Like, oh I can't.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Oh my boy, But bro, you you could have left?
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Did you really?
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Exactly? Did you really? Like you didn't?
Speaker 1 (38:47):
So that's that's another aspect where I'm like, I just
I can't. There's certain things where it's like I'll roll
with it in a movie, like again, going back to
making two point zero, there's a lot of stuff I
just roll with it because it's.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Like whatever, Yeah, you're all right, because doesn't try to
be again, it does try to be too serious.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
No, you're here for a good time. We're gonna entertain
you and that's it.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
But this one, there's certain steps. I feel like it's
it's making me go where I should believe it or
I should believe this moment where he's freaking out, but
I don't. It rings emotionally hollow for me in a
lot of ways.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Well, that's tragic.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
I know it's so tragic, and I know the part
of me is also kind of frustrated because of the
fact that I know it's set up because right like Samson,
the Giant Alpha is gonna come after Zombie Baby and
Jamie's gonna go after Spike, So I imagine there's like
a head to head or something like that.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Yeah, I can see that, you.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Know, Like I figured that's where we're going. But it's
kind of like, uh, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
You know.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Again, there should have been a little bit more answers
in this movie than we get.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
I think that's one of my frustrations.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
That is the biggest frustration.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
My phone just went off right now because we have
a breaking news.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Guys, freaking news.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
This is important. I can't even say this man's last name.
The Vinnuf is set to direct the next James Bond film,
E and that's for me relevant because my number one,
Oh that's actually that is it's a kind of known
news that it's supposed to be Aaron Taylor Johnson. It
is because so it's supposed to be Aaron Taylor Johnson.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
I know that.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
There was a whole conversation and a while back, I'd
say like maybe six seven, eight months ago, there was
some there were reports came out that he was confirmed
to be the next Bond. And then I remember he
was at a premiere and people were taking a lot
of pictures of him and his pictures were everywhere because
they were like, he's the next Bond.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
And then recently he did an interview on.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
The carpet and was leaving the carpet and somebody asked
him I think it was even deadline. They were like, hey,
what's what's what's next year? What are you doing next
after this movie? And he was like, I can't talk
about it.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
It's clearly this.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
It's gotta be right, it's gotta be Yeah, I think
we know who are James Bond is, So that means
he doesn't survive the next next twenty eight years ago.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Like yeah, I acteel like kill him all because he
got somewhere else to go.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Film, he's got to go be bond for a little
while a little bit.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Yeah, which which if he is, I don't mind it.
And I also don't mind Denny Villain eve as the
as the director for it. You know, he's I like
his his vision more often than not. So I'm excited
for that that connection there.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
Yeah, I see for me, sometimes directors are what sell.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
It for me. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
And you would think with twenty eight years later, Danny
Boyle Alex Garland coming together again, like you would think
I had high expectations again and and nope, dashed hopes
dashed yep.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
And now I mean I want Aaron Taylor Johnson. I
have a great film.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
I am a big fan of his recent work, and
I have really strongly advocated that this man needs to
have a breakout role where he is the lead of something.
I thought Craven I the reason why Craven, and it
ain't even just Craven, It's any movie in this franchise really.
But I wanted a Sinister six so bad. Oh Yeah,
I wanted Sinister six, and I wanted Secret Wars. And
I'm getting my Secret Wars. But looks like that will
(42:01):
never happen ever, because they have not managed to make
a single film from those cares.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Sony, I take the back.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
Sony hasn't managed to make a single film that has
got to the magnitude that some of the other ones have.
Of course we went outside of the Spider Man films. But
I want so badly. I think he deserves so badly
to have a standout film. I think he's a talented actor.
I loved him in Bullet Trained.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Yeah, he's fantastic in there. And I think he deserves
to have like something. And he has the looks, he
has the age.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
That's why whenever I.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
Initially wanted my fan cast or had my fan cast
for uh double seven, it was it was Tom Hardy.
But then Tom Hardy is getting older. I think he's
like fifty four, fifty two or something like that. And
then he's taken all these random projects. He did that,
he got mob Land, he know, he wrapped up Venom.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
What's the other one? He just did Crank or something
like that. Have it? Yeah, crazy ass movie.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
But like I could tell, based on him putting out
stuff like that, that man was nowhere near doing anything Bond related.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
We got as elbow.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
Out here taking different roles like I knew people's track work,
or shows you what they are and are not working
on Aaron saying that and then then picking a bond director.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Right, yeah, this this tells me it's probably Aaron, and
I put my money on it, and we can come
back to this podcast and see that I said that.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
We will spice this out, we'll put this on, we'll
mark it as Salise called it.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Yeah, this is my receipts.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
This is the receipts for sure.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
I don't think there's anything else really that I wanted
to mention about this movie. Any other points you wanted
to bring up about twenty eight years later, say something nice.
Here we go, say something nice about twenty eight years later.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
The movie isn't terrible.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
There you go. That was nice. Yeah, the movie's not terrible.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
It's just it's not it was.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
The way it comes off, the way it was written,
doesn't seem like it was like it feels like two
different people wrote this movie. Yeah, and somebody had a
sense of and that somebody was trying to make the
next best thing. And I feel like, if you're going
to revamp a franchise, to revive it, it has to
really work.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
You have a lot of eggs in your basket.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
Now, why people are saying that they loved it cinematically,
there are a lot of angles that people really like visually.
Let's also not forget this was shot on iPhones.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Yeah, that's what I was just about to say.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
This movie is entirely iPhone And if you see the
rigs and stuff, like, technically this movie looks good. I
like it the way it was shot, and it's amazing
that it was all shot on iPhone. It's just everything else.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Yeah. And then on top of that, like even me,
I mean, I don't mind.
Speaker 4 (44:36):
Speaking out about it, but I have critic friends that
on the side DM me.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Like even I mean he put a YouTube videout.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
Jeremy Johns, who's like one of the bigger YouTubers in
the film space. He even messaged me and was like, yeah,
like that was filmed on iPhone. I have a problem
with the grainy or like the I guess oversaturated filter
look that it had.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Or something like that. He said.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
And when I hear from people like that, I know
that been in the business for a while, then lets
me know that I'm not tripping that I am not
the only one that's not openly enjoying this. But there
are some moments where it's like this is a very
captivating film, but then it's a mess.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
I think that's that was my complaint on the card.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
It was like, this is a mess, like it has
parts that are really good, has the emotional pool, but
then you get sloppy and you make some questionable choices,
the number one being that audio that that sound the
music that did not correlate with what we were seeing transpire,
which was such a tragic, like tragic miss because that.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
Was some scary shit.
Speaker 4 (45:28):
Yeah, that was scary, like running across that and the
water is rising, like you can either drown or you're
gonna get eaten by this dude.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
And even then it was like close call and y'all
have this whimsical like la music playing.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
I was like what yeah, and that like it took
a giant bolt to put that thing down, Like it
was just it's a wild intense moment that Yeah, it's
kind of undercut by that.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
So I think that that's But ultimately the guys, I
know that we probably sound like we're crapping on this film,
And it's not just that, it is that we want
to shed light on the fact.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
That, hey, you guys can come out of the closet.
Speaker 4 (46:01):
If you guys don't like this film, it's okay, you're
not alone.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
I feel like I feel like it's a sport group
because so many people love this movie.
Speaker 4 (46:09):
I'm like, do we watch so many people out loud
said they love this movie and there's not enough people
that spoke up and said they didn't.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
And I'm not saying I hate the movie.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
It's just not what people are on a skalky Let's
put it this way, on scale.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
From one to ten.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
I found that with the elements and the way they
did things, I felt like it was a six.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
It wasn't a two. It wasn't a one or three.
It was a six for me.
Speaker 4 (46:27):
But the people that are coming out here saying it
was a ten out of ten best movie of the year,
like miss me with that, because y'all are lying, y'all
are got y'all paid.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Yeah, I put it.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
I would put it like six point five maybe, but
on the letterbox, I put it at a three star,
like I think it's okay.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
But it is.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
Then y'all made us hate Aaron Taylor Johnson's character because
he cheated on his wife with cancer.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Come on, yeah that yeah, I forgot about that too.
That does happen it? Uh, Spike sees it all like
a brutal.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Brutal yeah, and then it's like you a little boy.
Speaker 4 (46:59):
You can't bust an arrow at one of these infected
that's crawling around, sloppy gluttony like, but you can try
to pull a knife on.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Your dad, Like, come on, he's trying to man up
in that moment.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
It was crazy. He tried, he felt he tried.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Yeah, it didn't work out, so it did not.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
Well, we'll see with Jimmy and his crew how they
adopt Spike in the next one, because I imagine that's
part of the story for the next one. But we'll
have to wait and see on that. I think January
of next year, so we won't have to wait too long. Yeah,
is it really Yeah, I believe it's January twenty twenty six,
So we're we'll see what happens with Jimmy and Spike
(47:38):
and the rest of the squad, which all of them,
all of those people that show up at the end.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
If you look at the credits.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
All of them are Jimmy Something, Jimmy Snakes, Jimmy Jump,
I don't know whatever the then name. I just happened
to a glance right up right at the end, and
it's says Jimmy, and it's literally like seven eight jim
because there's a bunch of them that pop up at
the end.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Yeah, wild uh yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
So I don't know, if you're a big fan, I
guess watch this, but I would know just skip it,
hold off.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Save everybody for me.
Speaker 4 (48:14):
It's it's the people that like go to the movies
every week or every other two weeks. It's it's the
decision to choose do I watch this or that? If
you're going to the theater, go see F one. Yeah,
I love that movie, and I will say heavily see
that in imax. There are people that can play no,
it's a little bit predictable of a plot or whatever,
or they feel however they feel about Brad Pitt. And
I'm not here for all that. Here, I'm here for
(48:36):
a good experience in a theater. And this delivered unlike
anything I feel like we've had in a while, like
that exhilarating feel. I can't think of the last time
I saw a movie that had that level of exhilarating,
like thrilling with sinners, but like exhilarating to where.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
It's like speed, like fast and ooh like fast and furious.
Speaker 4 (48:54):
The way that movie feels like the o G one
like fast five Fast five was the last one that
I was like super geek, like them dragging that damn
bank vault through Miami.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
That's that was exhilarating. That's how this feels. Go see F.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
One over this, go c F one, morol story, Go
c F one, go see making two point Oh. If
you want to laugh, like just want to have a
good life.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
You can go see twenty eight years Later.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
We also true, that's also true.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
I did not expect to laugh so much in twenty
eight years later as much as I did.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
I laughed a lot.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
Oh man, all right, Well that's gonna do it for
this special edition of Comic Cast. As always, you can
follow us on social media. I'm at producer Mike nine
seven five, Salise. Where can the people find find you online?
Speaker 3 (49:40):
You can find me on all socials.
Speaker 4 (49:42):
Threads has been my thing right now, Twitter, Instagram, They're all, hey, Shalise,
that's h e y salise C H A L I
C E and.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
Yeah, and then the website is Real Movie Junkie. That's
our e E L movie Junkie dot com.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
Go catch lasa's work on our website and online. Chelice,
you do a great job. Thank you again for stopping by.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
I appreciate it. Nice to have you.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
Thanks Anny, and we will talk to you guys on
issues six hundred and one next week.
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