May 16, 2025 • 34 mins
What does a 100-episode podcasting milestone have in common with high-performance leadership? Everything, according to Rosie Zilinskas. Drawing from her 30-year corporate career and success as host of the No Woman Left Behind podcast, Rosie reveals the powerful principles that connect exceptional podcasting with career advancement and leadership excellence.
The conversation takes us beyond surface-level interview techniques into the art of organic conversation. Rather than following rigid question scripts, Rosie shares how creating authentic connections with guests transforms both the podcasting experience and the value delivered to listeners. This approach parallels effective leadership communication, where authenticity trumps formality every time.
"Preparation, preparation, preparation begets confidence" becomes our mantra as Rosie unpacks the psychology behind high performance. Whether preparing for a podcast interview or career-defining presentation, thorough preparation creates the foundation for genuine confidence. The anxiety we feel in high-stakes situations almost always stems from inadequate preparation - a revelation that applies universally across professional domains.
The most fascinating insights emerge when discussing daily rituals and routines. Rosie's 5 AM to 9 AM personal development time - filled with meditation, exercise, journaling, and intention-setting - demonstrates how high performers prioritize self-renewal. This intentional approach to energy management creates the capacity for sustained excellence, whether in podcasting, leadership, or any demanding role.
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Carl Richards (00:04):
Welcome to Communication Connection
Community the podcaster'spodcast.
This podcast takes a deep diveinto modern day communication
strategies in the podcastingspace.
We chat with interesting peoplewho make the podcasting and
speaking spaces exciting andvibrant.
We also dive into thepodcasting community with news
(00:24):
updates, latest trends andtopics from this ever-evolving
space.
So strap in, it's going to beone amazing ride.
Let's dive into today's episode.
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Rosie Zilinskas is a 30-yearcorporate veteran.
(00:45):
She's here to reveal powerfulprinciples to help you unlock
your leadership potential andadvance in your career.
She is also a podcaster.
We're so thrilled that she'sjoining us today.
She's a high-performance coachas well, and I know we're going
to have a phenomenalconversation.
Rosie, welcome to the podcast.
Rosie Zilinskas (01:02):
Hi Carl, Thank you so much for having me.
I'm excited to talk about allthings podcast and speaking and
career so any way you want to go, let's go.
Carl Richards (01:09):
I am so excited.
So you are a podcaster, butit's not like you've been doing
this since podcasts were indiapers.
You've only been on thispodcasting journey.
What is it?
A couple of years now.
Rosie Zilinskas (01:20):
It's just over two years.
I just had my 100th episodecelebration on the no Woman Left
Behind podcast, and it's allabout advancement for women in
their corporate career.
So, yes, and I love podcasting100 plus episodes in.
Carl Richards (01:35):
How does that feel?
Rosie Zilinskas (01:36):
It feels like surreal.
I mean, when I think back, I'mlike, is it really possible that
I've had 100 podcasts?
So it's been a learning journey, as we all.
You know.
All podcasters know that it's ajourney and you get better and
better.
And just yesterday I recordedan episode for my podcast and
someone said gosh, you're areally good interviewer.
I'm like, oh cool, that's kindof cool.
(01:58):
That feels good, you know.
Carl Richards (01:59):
So yeah, and after a hundred episodes you get
pretty good at interviewing,shall we say.
I always like to refer to it asnot so much an interview.
It's like the Oprah effect.
We're having a conversation,we're just hanging out on the
couch together, chatting really.
That's the way I like toapproach it anyhow now, but part
of my process is having a15-minute chat with the guests,
(02:19):
just so that I can have thatsynergy, so I can test the
synergy.
Rosie Zilinskas (02:32):
Is there synergy?
Because we all know when youhave a podcast guest, that's you
know you don't have thatconnection.
It's a really difficult and wekind of flesh out, you know,
some of the topics that we'regoing to focus on, but there's
nothing set in stone.
Again, it's just kind of bulletpoints and conversation,
because I want to make it reallyorganic and wherever things go,
they go, and then I'm reallygood at kind of pulling things
(02:54):
back and redirecting and youknow, so, on and so forth.
Carl Richards (02:58):
So, as you are, we may as well just jump right
into it.
Seeing as you jumped right intoit, let's just keep the ball
going in this conversationaltone and also talk about that,
because I think that's one ofthe challenges that especially
early podcasters get into.
Is, they're okay, I'm going tohave guests.
Number one you don't have tohave guests.
That's number one.
Number two is okay.
(03:18):
If I have guests, I need tohave questionnaires.
I got to do this and I have todo this and, yes, it's not a bad
idea, as you said, to figureout what the CRG going.
We're both connected throughPodMatch.
We see each other's biographiesand information.
(03:48):
So, thanks to the lovely andbrilliant and talented Alex
Sanfilippo and I swear to God heneeds to pay me for the number
of times I sing his praiseswe're connected here, but it
also allows us to check eachother out.
It's almost like online datingin a way.
Rosie Zilinskas (04:03):
Oh my gosh, you took the words right out of my
mouth, carl, so I was thinkingit's like online dating for
podcasters.
Carl Richards (04:09):
Yes, so we've already and Alex probably likes
it when we say this so we'vealready checked out each other's
profile.
We've done that part of thedating.
Now it's the actualconversation.
But I like how you reallyshared something that I want to
emphasize, and that's thatorganic way that you're bringing
your information forward,whether you're having a
conversation like we are orwhether you're doing a solo show
(04:29):
.
It's crucial because audiencesdon't want to hear.
Question number one what isyour name?
Question number two where areyou from?
Question number three it shouldbe organic, it should be
authentic.
Rosie Zilinskas (04:39):
Absolutely.
I totally agree and I do.
Generally.
When I start recording mypodcast episode with my guests,
I always tell them, you know,the intro and the recap I will
do after, because it's kind ofthe trailer of what's coming and
the lessons, the learningpoints that I took from the
conversation, and I usually havemy guests give me one
(05:00):
actionable tip at the very end.
So I highlight that as well.
So it's a pretty, prettyregimented process as far as the
format, but it's fluid in thepieces that go into it and how I
actually record the podcast andit's always.
I end up having such amazingconversations because these are
all.
I only interview women that are, you know, leaders or former
(05:21):
leaders or amazing entrepreneursthat can help women in the
corporate space, and I end uphaving some amazing
conversations with these women.
Carl Richards (05:30):
We'll make sure, of course, that that link to
your show is posted in the shownotes for later, but I
definitely want to jump on thatas well and say that that's
really what drives people, isthat organic conversations, that
very laid back approach whichmakes a huge difference.
It's similar to if you've and Iknow you've spent a lot of time
doing public speaking as wellwhen you're on stage, you know
(05:54):
if the speaker is notcomfortable or if they're not
engaging their audience, ifthey're not doing things like
every now and again they checkin and you can tell the
difference between a seasonedpro who knows how to engage the
audience, bring them along on ajourney, versus the question
number one how are you all doingtoday?
Question number two you cantell the difference.
Rosie Zilinskas (06:14):
Absolutely, absolutely, and you know,
interestingly enough, so in myspeaking they always say you
know kind of start with yourstory.
They always say you know kindof start with your story.
And I've kind of shifted it alittle bit because now I kind of
talk about my story at the end.
Because, yes, I talk about mystory at the very beginning a
little bit.
But you know, the people arethere to learn something, to
(06:34):
listen, to understand.
So a lot of times I kind ofjump into the content with some
kind of icebreaker or whatever.
And, by the way, I got a greaticebreaker the other day from an
event planner and she said ifyou were to be an appliance,
what appliance would you be andwhy?
I was like, oh, that'sfantastic, I love that so much.
Carl Richards (06:56):
I'm stealing that .
I love it.
Hopefully that icebreaker isn'tcopywritten anywhere.
Rosie Zilinskas (07:00):
No, it is not.
She said steal away.
Carl Richards (07:02):
Because that is phenomenal and you hit the nail
right on the head there that youknow getting on stage and
sharing and I used to do thesame thing.
I would have my origin story atthe beginning or it's speckled
throughout the presentation.
Same with the podcast, as youmentioned earlier.
And again, I think this comesfrom my radio days because I
would literally say okay, guest,here we go.
I've got about a two minuteintro where I'm going to talk
(07:24):
and you're going to listen.
That'll include your intro andthen it's nicely packaged
together and sent out that way.
But I like this format into thepodcasting space.
Start there of doing the thingsthat are I don't want to say
they're not relevant to theguests, but things that you can
do later, because you don't knowwhere the conversation is going
from the beginning, because youhaven't had the conversation
(07:45):
yet, so you don't know what theperson's going to say.
And as far as the stagepresentations go, I want to ask
you this question I think Ialready know the answer but the
story that you said now you'resaving a lot of the story till
the end Wouldn't it also dependon the story that you want to
share?
There are some pretty heavystories that you don't
necessarily want to start outwith.
You want to build up to that, Ithink, and leave them on a high
(08:07):
note from that story.
Rosie Zilinskas (08:12):
Absolutely, and I'll tell you just a tiny
little bit about mine.
I went through a really baddivorce so I ended up being a
single mom, had two little kids,and my catalyst of going into
this career advancement is likeI have these two little kids,
I'm the sole provider for them.
I need to make more money, andso it did feel a little heavy
when I started with thatconversation at the beginning.
And so now, when they know thethree principles, or the three
(08:32):
saboteurs, and they convert intoprinciples, and then I talk
about my why and I have apicture of my two kids and when
I was able to buy a house forthe first time after that whole
ordeal, it flows much better andthey understand why I did what
I did.
Carl Richards (08:49):
And you've got the time, typically within a
stage presentation, to structureit that way.
You're not.
It's not like a Toastmasterscontest speech where you're
seven minutes and you've got tobe off the stage.
Actually, it's seven minutes 30seconds before you're
disqualified.
I've maybe done that a coupleof times.
Rosie Zilinskas (09:03):
I'm a Toastmaster too.
Carl Richards (09:05):
So minutes, 30 seconds before you're
disqualified.
I've maybe done that a coupleof times.
I'm a Toastmaster too.
So, yes, usually when you'rekeynoting or you're one of many
speakers in a forum, you've gotat least 20 minutes, absolutely,
maybe 30.
And if you're lucky to be thekeynote presenter, it's usually
45 to 60.
You've got the time to notthink, okay, I have to get all
of this in in seven minutes.
No, you can structure itappropriately to the audience,
(09:27):
the story and you, because somepeople don't want to start with
their origin story.
They don't want to start thereand again, it all depends on the
story.
I've heard some pretty heavystories that if you started with
them, the audience would be ina depressed place right off the
top.
You want to empower them, Ithink, before you go and I think
(09:47):
that's the same with thepodcast too I think there's an
empowerment piece that you wantto make sure you're leaving that
message there, but start withit.
Start, maybe, with what theproblem is or what's the focus
of your message.
And again I'll go back toToastmasters it's Toastmasters
2.0.
Tell them what you're going totell them.
Tell them and then tell themwhat you just told them Really.
Rosie Zilinskas (10:05):
Exactly.
And so when I'm interviewingguests on my podcast, I say tell
me what you do and all thosethings to the last part of the
podcast because I transitionedto okay, so let's figure out,
how did you get to where you aretoday?
Tell me about your journey, andthen we kind of go into their
story and their journey.
I know a lot of people starttheir podcast with tell me about
(10:29):
yourself.
But when I'm on a podcast andsomeone says to me tell me about
yourself.
You know, introduce yourself tothe audience.
I'm 55 years old, carl.
Do you want me to start whenI'm like when I was born, in
kindergarten, in high school,like where do you want to start?
So I always start with like thelast 10 years.
School, like where do you wantto start?
So I always start with like thelast 10 years.
But it's really hard when theinterviewer or the podcast host
(10:52):
is like introduce yourself tothe audience, and that just
doesn't feel right to me.
Carl Richards (10:54):
That drives me insane Not literally, but it
really when you say where do youwant me to start?
I used to stutter when I was akid.
You want to hear about that?
Do you want to hear the storyof not going into acting and
going to college to be inbroadcasting?
Do you want to hear that?
Do you want to hear somethingabout my personal journey?
Do you want to hear that?
What is it that you really wantto hear?
(11:16):
So when I say, when I share withpeople and I think most of us
are on the same page it's wherein the journey does it make
sense.
So usually within theintroduction which, of course,
now I do after, I do it allafter Right, so you're hearing
this.
By the way, if you're listeningto this, you've already heard
the introduction, but at therecording of this here, it is
(11:36):
the end of the summer 2024.
Rosie hasn't heard herintroduction yet.
So when she hears this, she'llbe like oh, that's what that
sounds like.
Okay, but you know, reallybeing able to have that organic
story and bring people along onthe journey, I think is crucial,
a very crucial component.
Rosie Zilinskas (11:53):
Yes, absolutely .
And again, you know we want togive the audience what they're
here for.
My podcast is women that aretrying to figure out how to
advance in their careers, andthen I kind of share with them
you know, the rest of the storyfor the guests.
So yeah, yeah, phenomenal.
Carl Richards (12:09):
Let's talk about guesting.
Let's talk about guests for aminute.
Yeah, challenges that you'vehad with guests let's talk about
.
Rosie Zilinskas (12:15):
Okay.
So I'm going to ask you aquestion have you ever had
podcasting guests with West?
I don't know, I don't know.
Okay, so I was on the episodenot too long ago and it was.
We got on camera on Zoom, justkind of like how you and I did,
(12:37):
and the host started recordingimmediately.
He or she started asking mequestions immediately.
We got into the conversation.
So there was no chit chat.
No, hey, rosie, how you doingNothing?
Then we talked about the topicfor 25 minutes and he said all
right.
He or she said all right, thankyou, click.
And then he disconnected thecall.
(12:58):
Wow, no debrief, noconversation.
No, thank you for being here.
No, nothing.
And I literally went out to mykitchen and I told my husband I
just got podcasting guestWhitworth and I was just like
you know, when the Zoom ended Iwas like, literally, I was like
(13:19):
what just happened?
I do not know what justhappened, never happened to me
before.
So that was one challengingexperience that I've had
interesting guests, the twobasic kinds that when I say
(13:39):
guests.
Carl Richards (13:40):
The two basic kinds are can carry on a
conversation quite well or theycan't.
And sometimes, if they cancarry on a conversation, they
carry it on too far, too long.
I had one recently and when wegot to the end of the
conversation, this particularguest said so how was that?
Was that about 10, 15 minutes?
I said no, we were going foralmost an hour and a half and I
(14:00):
was afforded the opportunitytime-wise.
I didn't have to rush to anappointment or have an online
call, but it's still totally noconcept of timing.
So it was interesting, becausethen I have to say okay, team,
here's the episode.
We might have to truncate thisor we might have to separate it
and do like a part one, part two, because there was so much
(14:22):
detail, so much information andagain, I'll take responsibility
for this and sometimes I don'tset it up properly.
So if I say something like so,rosie, tell me about yourself,
okay, I haven't set you upproperly to do that, so I might
give you way too much leash.
Or you might say something likewell, I'm a, you know, I'm a
(14:42):
high performance coach and I'm apodcaster and a mom and, you
know, got a couple of dogs andthat's it, because I haven't set
the table for the other thingthat drives me crazy and this,
this also is the responsibilityof the host is the asking closed
questions Right, but as theguest, is the asking closed
questions Right?
But as the guest, it'sunderstanding that if a host
asks you a closed question,don't close it simply by saying
(15:09):
yes or no.
And again this goes back to theexperience of you've had
guesting experiences, but you'vealso had hosting experiences
where you know you're like, ohshoot, I shouldn't have asked
that question like that becauseit's potentially a closed
question.
But give me a little bit more.
So I really try to make surethat I don't ask a closed
question.
Rosie Zilinskas (15:21):
Yes, no, I totally agree.
We need to be prepared enoughso that we can carry on the
conversation.
I've been pretty fortunate.
I really haven't had a lot ofguests where the conversation
doesn't generally flow.
It's just very conversational.
Like I say, I always have a setof idea of, like what we're
going to talk about and you knowhow it always starts.
But I haven't had a lot ofhorror stories per se for guests
(15:45):
, but I've had a few as myselfbeing a guest, so that's a
little bit different.
Carl Richards (15:50):
And the other piece to that too is I don't
know if you've started gettingrequests.
I'd like to be on your show.
Obviously, I know throughPodmatch you can have that set
up that way.
But I get email requests sayingI think so-and-so would be
great for your show, so you canvet your guest ahead of time.
But even if you do that,sometimes you'll either get an
individual who isn't quite thebest fit yes, what would you do
(16:11):
in that case?
If they're not quite the bestfit, would you say, hey, you're
not the fit or say, hey, you'renot the fit.
Rosie Zilinskas (16:19):
Or even after the recording, would you say,
hey, it's not going to work out.
Yeah, first of all, I'm alwaysvery kind.
You know I always want to makesure I'm very respectful and I
always say you know what?
My podcast caters to women inthe corporate space.
You're a health coach, so therereally is no synergy.
It doesn't align.
So thank you so much forapplying.
So you know that's fine.
But I will tell you I do have apet peeve about guests applying
(16:40):
to my show.
And so, as you saw, when I sentyou a reach out and said you
know, I'd really love to be onyour podcast, I gave you all
kind of my talking points.
I gave you a lot of informationthat we could kind of take this
conversation and I will getreach outs, whether it's via
email or even on Podmatch.
Can I be on your show?
(17:01):
Literally, it'll say that I'dlove to be on your show, with no
other information on it and I'msorry but I'm not going to do
your job.
So when I get stuff like that,I just delete it because it is
so disrespectful for you to be.
I want to be a guest on yourshow and then not give me any
talking points, or why you alignfor my show.
(17:23):
What are some of the topicsthat we can talk about?
You know some speaking points.
Something do a better job atpitching yourself to podcast
hosts, so that is a pet peeve.
Carl Richards (17:34):
I think that's a good key there too, and I think
in some cases it's inexperiencethey're very new to podcasting
or they're new key there too,and I think in some cases it's
inexperience they're very new topodcasting or they're new to
the platform.
And Alex makes it really simple.
Let's see.
I mentioned his name again.
I swear to goodness I shoulddefinitely be collecting
royalties for that.
But the other piece is maybeit's a confidence issue.
Maybe they're not quite surehow to pitch themselves to a
(17:55):
host.
I know when I first jumped onPodmatch I'm like, okay, well,
and I know how to do it, had itdone for my show.
So I know, but for somebody whois brand new, they might not
know the best way or have theconfidence to be able to do it.
My pet peeve is love to be onyour show.
Check my bio If you think it'sa fit bye-bye.
Yeah, I need a little bit morethan that.
Yeah, I'm going to check yourbio anyhow, but give me
(18:16):
something other than that.
Rosie Zilinskas (18:19):
Exactly.
Yeah, it's exactly.
They're not giving you reasonswhy to go further.
So if I get information likethat, where it's just like check
my bio, I'm not going to do thework for you, so I'll just
delete it or ignore it.
So that's part of my process.
Now, at the very beginning,Carl, when I was a very new host
(18:40):
, I was trying to reply toeverybody, and now I get dozens
and dozens and dozens ofrequests and I just can't do
that anymore, which I understand.
But the people that really arenot a match, those people I
definitely reply to them and I'mlike it doesn't align, You're
not a match, so yeah.
Carl Richards (18:57):
I'm experiencing a very similar thing, and it's a
good problem to have versus.
You don't have enough guests,right?
So thankfully there's aplatform out there that allows
us to do that.
I did want to jump on thispiece, though, about confidence
building, and I know that wejust brushed on it, but there's
tools that you provide.
From a business perspective,confidence is important.
(19:17):
Whether you're on a podcast,whether you're in business, you
need to not just put your bestface forward, but confidence is
something that customers,prospects, they know if
confidence isn't in your blood,Absolutely so, you know in.
Rosie Zilinskas (19:31):
So in the United States the common phrase
is in real estate it's location,location, location.
For me and my clients forcareer advancement.
But this applies to everybodypreparation, preparation,
preparation begets confidence.
The more prepared you are, themore confident you become.
(19:51):
So think of a time, Carl, whenyou did your homework on a guest
and you were about to hitrecord and you felt like a
million bucks because you knowexactly what to say.
And I'm sure you've had othersituations where you didn't have
time to do your homework on aguest and you're like trying to
look at the bio five minutesbefore you're going to record
and you're like, oh my gosh, Idon't know what I'm going to
talk about.
That feeling of like thatanxiety that comes from not
(20:16):
being prepared is very real.
That comes from not beingprepared is very real.
So for me, when you are tryingto be confident in something,
that means that you need toprepare in whatever it is that
you're trying to do, and that issuch a key, such a huge thing
for people to understand.
When you feel anxiety, when youfeel that lack of confidence,
(20:40):
it's because you haven'tprepared well, and that is a
game changer for people tounderstand.
It's simple, but it's superpowerful.
Carl Richards (20:50):
Especially true in the speaking world.
Yeah, One of the things that inmy journey doing speaker
training that I would share withpeople like, preparation is key
, and I would be at networkingevents or other meetings and you
would know the ones who wereprepared, because they're the
ones who came out underconfidence in what they were
doing, Not overconfident, butdefinitely clearly confident in
(21:10):
what it is that they would besharing.
I think that that's a piecethat sometimes people forget in
the podcasting space and I'vehad that happen and I think the
reason why for me there's acertain comfort zone is it's
happened outside of thepodcasting world.
For me, yeah, having spent 25years in broadcasting, where
every now and again I would haveguests showing up to the studio
and again, this is when radio,for the most part, was live.
(21:33):
All the time you have a guestcoming to the studio.
You don't know they're comingbecause the sales department
might have forgot to tell youthat.
Oh yes, so is coming to talkabout their event and they're
showing up and you have like twominutes not even two minutes to
say, OK, let's dive into whatyour event is, and I think that
helped me in being confident ingoing in unscripted or unprepped
(21:55):
.
Not that prep isn't good,because it is, but that's a
different skill altogether,almost like improv.
But improv is something that'staught.
You don't just wake up in themorning and say I'm going to do
improv like they do on WhoseLine Is it Anyway?
No, you need to go in knowingthe rules of the game.
So I think learning the rulesof the game number one.
But then also, if you don'tknow the rules, then you have to
(22:16):
go in with more preparation.
You need to be.
You're not seasoned enough tothink you can just off the cuff
wing it, shall we say.
Rosie Zilinskas (22:24):
Yes, I totally agree with that, and you know
now that I think about it.
I did have a guest one time andat the time this was early on,
when I was starting to host thepodcast.
This person, this woman, showedup.
She was in her vehicle, thepodcast this person, this woman,
showed up.
She was in her vehicle, she wasliterally combing her hair and
she was brushing her teeth inthe car and I was like so taken
(22:46):
aback.
I really didn't have theknow-how of say you know what,
this isn't a good time, I reallyneed you to be home, be in a
decent environment and notbrushing.
And she was literally likebrushing her teeth and spitting,
taking a swig of a water bottle, spitting it out in her car.
And I went ahead and egged tothat episode and now I would
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have said you know what, this isnot the best time, this is not
the best episode, so let's justreschedule.
But that preparation, thatknow-how, that knowledge comes
with the confidence as youcontinue to grow in whatever it
is that you're working on.
Carl Richards (23:24):
I think it's definitely par for the course
that there are people who that'show they live their life, shall
we say.
You know they've done it morethan once.
How did the toothbrush get tothe car to begin with, and the
comb?
It's probably been in there awhile too, right, and it's not
just because, okay, I'm betweenappointments.
I need to, you know, not me,because obviously I have any
hair that needs to be freshenedup.
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But you know, for somebodywho's going on camera for an
interview, typically, yeah, youneed to be ready, but typically
not doing it in your car.
Once you know you've done itand the person you're going to
see knows you've done it manytimes, I'm sure.
Rosie Zilinskas (23:58):
And as far as the confidence piece goes for my
clients in the corporate space,I always tell them create your
story vault, so that's like yourseven accomplishments.
Make sure that you know themand put it into that story
format.
And it's the same thing withpodcast guests.
So if you're going on podcasts,have your five to seven canned
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topics that you always talkabout and know them inside and
out.
Be ready with them so that whenyou have a very fluid
conversation you can just pullfrom your knowledge and you're
confident because you alreadyhave that story vault, that
vault of information that isseared in your brain that you
are now able to own as an expertbecause you know them so well.
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And that, to me, is just such ahuge confidence builder.
Carl Richards (24:48):
Confidence builder, but I think it's
leading to what you spend yourlife doing, and that is as a
high performance career coach.
This is what you're helpingpeople in this space all the
time.
This is a high level.
This is not going to a jobevery single day.
That's the same in, day in, dayout.
You know no disrespect to thosejobs, but this is at a higher
level.
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So we need to be thinking,performing, acting at a higher
level, because, as a highperformance career coach, that's
what you're helping people dois perform at a higher, hence
the term high performance level.
Rosie Zilinskas (25:18):
Yes, absolutely , and actually I have a great
example.
I had a client that we did highperformance earlier this year
and she's now part of mymembership, so I was able to
redo.
One of the segments is aclarity chart and that's just to
be clear on your goals, whereyou're going in your in life.
And it's a lot of reflectivework and we did her clarity
chart again just a couple ofdays ago and where she was seven
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months ago to where she istoday was completely different
because she's grown so much frombeing a high performer now and
really implementing all of thosetopics and we talk about energy
and influence and clarity andproductivity and all those
things Her clarity chart wascompletely different.
It was such a cool thing to seethe evolution and high
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performance is for everybody.
It's not just for women incareers, but it is such a game
changer for people.
When you start, you know thatold adage of peeling back the
onion and knowing yourself.
And that's the other thingabout confidence is the more you
know yourself, the more youknow your core values and what
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your goals are and you knowestablish your morning routine
and your evening routine, allthose things.
And it's not that we're perfect, but we have a really outlined
and defined structure and that'swhere the confidence comes in
and that's where the highperformance just helps you live
a better life, where you'rejoyous and happy and try to be
in the present moment as much asyou can.
Carl Richards (26:46):
I have a colleague who keynotes all over
the world and one of the thingshe does, it doesn't matter where
he is, it doesn't matter howhe's feeling, unless he's really
sick.
That's a little bit different,but every single day he's in the
gym.
It doesn't matter what hotelhe's in, doesn't matter.
At home he has his home gym,but when he's on the road he's
in the gym all the time, 5am or5.30 for his workout.
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And again, it doesn't matterwhat time he goes to bed,
because sometimes his keynotesare later in the evening or he's
traveling from one country toanother or across Canada or the
US, where we're three differenttime zones.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter if he gets inat midnight, 5 am, he's up,
going to the gym.
So there's that focus, thosekeys of.
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And you're right, we're notperfect.
Do, yeah.
So there's that focus, thosekeys of.
And you're right, we're notperfect.
Do I miss a day?
Several, I'm sure.
But if you know that this isnot just the confidence, but
this is what high performers do,is it's commitment, it's
dedication, it's doing thosethings reasonably consistently,
shall we say.
Rosie Zilinskas (27:44):
Yes, absolutely .
It's keeping promises toyourself, carl, because how many
times do you negotiate withyourself?
You're like, I'll do thatworkout later.
And yeah, I don't work outseven days a week, but I
meditate seven days a week.
I make sure that I, even if I'mat a hotel or whatever, I will
meditate in bed before I get upand do my thing.
But it is so imperative and Ithink it's funny because my kids
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are grown now we don't havepets, it's just my husband and I
, so he can take care of himself.
But in the morning I get upgenerally at five o'clock in the
morning and I don't startworking till nine.
And they're like what do you dofor four hours?
Well, I meditate for an hour, Iwork out for 40 minutes, I get
my supplements, my water, Ijournal, I drink my coffee.
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So it's a very slow start to myday.
And then when I'm ready and Istart my day at nine, I feel
like a million bucks.
So it doesn't happen everysingle day, but 95% of the time.
Carl Richards (28:42):
And I think that's the difference between
somebody who is performing at ahigh level it's confidence but
it's discipline to do thosethings versus somebody who is
not performing at that.
And if you need help, thenobviously that's what Rosie does
is she helps people on thatjourney.
As you mentioned earlier andI'm glad you mentioned this it's
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not just for business owners orpeople in the coaching space,
it is for podcasters.
We have to think of this ashigh performance.
We should be thinking aboutthat pretty much in everything
that we do.
Rosie Zilinskas (29:13):
Yes, absolutely .
I couldn't agree more.
The one thing that we alwaysstart with, you know that
clarity piece.
But the second thing is thatenergy.
How do you like you can soeasily change the energy in your
day by doing a simple twominute release meditation.
So it's literally it's ameditation two minutes deep
breathing for those two minutesand all you have to do is say
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release, release, release, andit just totally helps your
stress just dissipate from yourbody and then it just gives you
that energy to refocus,re-energize yourself and to
continue on your day.
But we have little tips andtricks and strategies that we do
so that you can kind ofreground yourself in spite of
anything that is happening inyour day that day.
Carl Richards (29:57):
I think the other thing too this is something
that I've adopted Actually, itwas my coach who browbeat me to
make sure that I do this isblocking time in your day for
yourself.
For you, you said that 5 am to9 am that's the you time and
that's awesome.
For other people it might belater in the day.
I block off lunch and I don'tjust block 20 minutes.
Again, thinking of my days inradio, sometimes that's all I
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had was 20 minutes, but now thatI'm my own boss, I run my own
company.
No, I still need to block thathour and a half, not because it
takes me an hour and a half toeat, but because that's when I
can go for a walk, shift gears,journal, meditate, whatever it
is that I need to do, and eat aswell before I continue on with
my day.
Rosie Zilinskas (30:36):
Yes, I couldn't agree more.
And again, it doesn't have tobe in the morning or at lunch,
it could be any time during theday, but the consistency is key.
I mean, there's people thatwork out in the evening.
I could never work out in theevening because I just don't
have the energy.
But I know a woman that worksout every single day at 8 pm.
8 pm, that's when she works outand I'm like kudos to you, but
at least you're working out.
Carl Richards (30:57):
Yeah, I couldn't do it at 8 pm is when, every now
and again, somebody will wantto jump on a call at seven or
eight o'clock in the evening andI'm like what I'm?
Toast.
That's close to my bedtime right, or if I've had a long day.
Sometimes I'm just getting tothe end of my day.
It doesn't happen every day,but there are times where there
are things that go later in theday.
I'm a part of the NSA would bethe equivalent here in Canada.
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It's called CAPS, the CanadianAssociation of Professional
Speakers, and sometimes thosemeetings are seven o'clock at
night Not all the time, butsometimes they are.
So that means I'm having alonger day.
I've built in a little bit ofextra time during the day, but
it means that I'm not.
I ain't.
It means I'm not going to beworking out at seven o'clock or
eight o'clock in the evening.
I just couldn't do it.
But if it, hey, if it works foryou, two thumbs up, right.
Rosie Zilinskas (31:44):
Yeah, our Toastmasters meeting.
So I'm a Toastmaster.
I go every Monday.
It starts from 7 to 8.30 pm andit's a little bit later.
But I love Toastmasters andit's been a wonderful feature
for me to become the speakerthat I am today, so it's
wonderful.
So I will stay up a little bitpast my bedtime those evenings.
Carl Richards (32:02):
And you'll get up before breakfast the next day,
regardless of what time you goto bed, right, absolutely.
This has been a phenomenalconversation.
Rosie, as a high performancecareer coach, I know you have
some great resources.
What would you like to passalong to folks today to help
them on their journey?
Rosie Zilinskas (32:18):
Well, there's a couple of things.
So if you are thinking aboutthe struggles that you're having
in your day, I would be happyto have a strategy, call with
your audience and just tell themabout high performance, because
I know it has changed my lifeand it has changed my clients'
lives, so that's a big thing,and they can just reach me on my
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website at nowomanleftbehindcomto do that.
Carl Richards (32:43):
And we'll make sure that that link is there,
and also the links to yourpodcast and all other social
media where you can follow andlearn more from Rosie.
It's been a great conversationtoday, rosie, but before I let
you go, this is the one thing.
This is the one thing that isstatic in this show pretty much
is.
I'll leave you with the finalthought.
Rosie Zilinskas (33:00):
You know, the final thought is really
understand yourself so that youcan explain it to other people.
And that applies to anything,whether you're interviewing at a
job, you're trying to become aspeaker, whether you're a
podcast host.
The more you understandyourself, the more you are able
to provide someone else withthat value of what you bring to
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them, regardless of what you'redoing.
So those are my final words,carl.
Carl Richards (33:29):
I love it.
Rosie Zilinskas, that's a greatplace to leave it.
Thank you so much for being myguest today.
Rosie Zilinskas (33:34):
Thank you so much, Carl.
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Rosie Zilinskas is a 30-yearcorporate veteran.
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She's here to reveal powerfulprinciples to help you unlock
your leadership potential andadvance in your career.
She is also a podcaster.
We're so thrilled that she'sjoining us today.
She's a high-performance coachas well, and I know we're going
to have a phenomenalconversation.
Rosie, welcome to the podcast.
Rosie Zilinskas (01:02):
Hi Carl, Thank you so much for having me.
I'm excited to talk about allthings podcast and speaking and
career so any way you want to go, let's go.
Carl Richards (01:09):
I am so excited.
So you are a podcaster, butit's not like you've been doing
this since podcasts were indiapers.
You've only been on thispodcasting journey.
What is it?
A couple of years now.
Rosie Zilinskas (01:20):
It's just over two years.
I just had my 100th episodecelebration on the no Woman Left
Behind podcast, and it's allabout advancement for women in
their corporate career.
So, yes, and I love podcasting100 plus episodes in.
Carl Richards (01:35):
How does that feel?
Rosie Zilinskas (01:36):
It feels like surreal.
I mean, when I think back, I'mlike, is it really possible that
I've had 100 podcasts?
So it's been a learning journey, as we all.
You know.
All podcasters know that it's ajourney and you get better and
better.
And just yesterday I recordedan episode for my podcast and
someone said gosh, you're areally good interviewer.
I'm like, oh cool, that's kindof cool.
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That feels good, you know.
Carl Richards (01:59):
So yeah, and after a hundred episodes you get
pretty good at interviewing,shall we say.
I always like to refer to it asnot so much an interview.
It's like the Oprah effect.
We're having a conversation,we're just hanging out on the
couch together, chatting really.
That's the way I like toapproach it anyhow now, but part
of my process is having a15-minute chat with the guests,
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just so that I can have thatsynergy, so I can test the
synergy.
Rosie Zilinskas (02:32):
Is there synergy?
Because we all know when youhave a podcast guest, that's you
know you don't have thatconnection.
It's a really difficult and wekind of flesh out, you know,
some of the topics that we'regoing to focus on, but there's
nothing set in stone.
Again, it's just kind of bulletpoints and conversation,
because I want to make it reallyorganic and wherever things go,
they go, and then I'm reallygood at kind of pulling things
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back and redirecting and youknow, so, on and so forth.
Carl Richards (02:58):
So, as you are, we may as well just jump right
into it.
Seeing as you jumped right intoit, let's just keep the ball
going in this conversationaltone and also talk about that,
because I think that's one ofthe challenges that especially
early podcasters get into.
Is, they're okay, I'm going tohave guests.
Number one you don't have tohave guests.
That's number one.
Number two is okay.
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If I have guests, I need tohave questionnaires.
I got to do this and I have todo this and, yes, it's not a bad
idea, as you said, to figureout what the CRG going.
We're both connected throughPodMatch.
We see each other's biographiesand information.
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So, thanks to the lovely andbrilliant and talented Alex
Sanfilippo and I swear to God heneeds to pay me for the number
of times I sing his praiseswe're connected here, but it
also allows us to check eachother out.
It's almost like online datingin a way.
Rosie Zilinskas (04:03):
Oh my gosh, you took the words right out of my
mouth, carl, so I was thinkingit's like online dating for
podcasters.
Carl Richards (04:09):
Yes, so we've already and Alex probably likes
it when we say this so we'vealready checked out each other's
profile.
We've done that part of thedating.
Now it's the actualconversation.
But I like how you reallyshared something that I want to
emphasize, and that's thatorganic way that you're bringing
your information forward,whether you're having a
conversation like we are orwhether you're doing a solo show
(04:29):
.
It's crucial because audiencesdon't want to hear.
Question number one what isyour name?
Question number two where areyou from?
Question number three it shouldbe organic, it should be
authentic.
Rosie Zilinskas (04:39):
Absolutely.
I totally agree and I do.
Generally.
When I start recording mypodcast episode with my guests,
I always tell them, you know,the intro and the recap I will
do after, because it's kind ofthe trailer of what's coming and
the lessons, the learningpoints that I took from the
conversation, and I usually havemy guests give me one
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actionable tip at the very end.
So I highlight that as well.
So it's a pretty, prettyregimented process as far as the
format, but it's fluid in thepieces that go into it and how I
actually record the podcast andit's always.
I end up having such amazingconversations because these are
all.
I only interview women that are, you know, leaders or former
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leaders or amazing entrepreneursthat can help women in the
corporate space, and I end uphaving some amazing
conversations with these women.
Carl Richards (05:30):
We'll make sure, of course, that that link to
your show is posted in the shownotes for later, but I
definitely want to jump on thatas well and say that that's
really what drives people, isthat organic conversations, that
very laid back approach whichmakes a huge difference.
It's similar to if you've and Iknow you've spent a lot of time
doing public speaking as wellwhen you're on stage, you know
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if the speaker is notcomfortable or if they're not
engaging their audience, ifthey're not doing things like
every now and again they checkin and you can tell the
difference between a seasonedpro who knows how to engage the
audience, bring them along on ajourney, versus the question
number one how are you all doingtoday?
Question number two you cantell the difference.
Rosie Zilinskas (06:14):
Absolutely, absolutely, and you know,
interestingly enough, so in myspeaking they always say you
know kind of start with yourstory.
They always say you know kindof start with your story.
And I've kind of shifted it alittle bit because now I kind of
talk about my story at the end.
Because, yes, I talk about mystory at the very beginning a
little bit.
But you know, the people arethere to learn something, to
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listen, to understand.
So a lot of times I kind ofjump into the content with some
kind of icebreaker or whatever.
And, by the way, I got a greaticebreaker the other day from an
event planner and she said ifyou were to be an appliance,
what appliance would you be andwhy?
I was like, oh, that'sfantastic, I love that so much.
Carl Richards (06:56):
I'm stealing that .
I love it.
Hopefully that icebreaker isn'tcopywritten anywhere.
Rosie Zilinskas (07:00):
No, it is not.
She said steal away.
Carl Richards (07:02):
Because that is phenomenal and you hit the nail
right on the head there that youknow getting on stage and
sharing and I used to do thesame thing.
I would have my origin story atthe beginning or it's speckled
throughout the presentation.
Same with the podcast, as youmentioned earlier.
And again, I think this comesfrom my radio days because I
would literally say okay, guest,here we go.
I've got about a two minuteintro where I'm going to talk
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and you're going to listen.
That'll include your intro andthen it's nicely packaged
together and sent out that way.
But I like this format into thepodcasting space.
Start there of doing the thingsthat are I don't want to say
they're not relevant to theguests, but things that you can
do later, because you don't knowwhere the conversation is going
from the beginning, because youhaven't had the conversation
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yet, so you don't know what theperson's going to say.
And as far as the stagepresentations go, I want to ask
you this question I think Ialready know the answer but the
story that you said now you'resaving a lot of the story till
the end Wouldn't it also dependon the story that you want to
share?
There are some pretty heavystories that you don't
necessarily want to start outwith.
You want to build up to that, Ithink, and leave them on a high
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note from that story.
Rosie Zilinskas (08:12):
Absolutely, and I'll tell you just a tiny
little bit about mine.
I went through a really baddivorce so I ended up being a
single mom, had two little kids,and my catalyst of going into
this career advancement is likeI have these two little kids,
I'm the sole provider for them.
I need to make more money, andso it did feel a little heavy
when I started with thatconversation at the beginning.
And so now, when they know thethree principles, or the three
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saboteurs, and they convert intoprinciples, and then I talk
about my why and I have apicture of my two kids and when
I was able to buy a house forthe first time after that whole
ordeal, it flows much better andthey understand why I did what
I did.
Carl Richards (08:49):
And you've got the time, typically within a
stage presentation, to structureit that way.
You're not.
It's not like a Toastmasterscontest speech where you're
seven minutes and you've got tobe off the stage.
Actually, it's seven minutes 30seconds before you're
disqualified.
I've maybe done that a coupleof times.
Rosie Zilinskas (09:03):
I'm a Toastmaster too.
Carl Richards (09:05):
So minutes, 30 seconds before you're
disqualified.
I've maybe done that a coupleof times.
I'm a Toastmaster too.
So, yes, usually when you'rekeynoting or you're one of many
speakers in a forum, you've gotat least 20 minutes, absolutely,
maybe 30.
And if you're lucky to be thekeynote presenter, it's usually
45 to 60.
You've got the time to notthink, okay, I have to get all
of this in in seven minutes.
No, you can structure itappropriately to the audience,
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the story and you, because somepeople don't want to start with
their origin story.
They don't want to start thereand again, it all depends on the
story.
I've heard some pretty heavystories that if you started with
them, the audience would be ina depressed place right off the
top.
You want to empower them, Ithink, before you go and I think
(09:47):
that's the same with thepodcast too I think there's an
empowerment piece that you wantto make sure you're leaving that
message there, but start withit.
Start, maybe, with what theproblem is or what's the focus
of your message.
And again I'll go back toToastmasters it's Toastmasters
2.0.
Tell them what you're going totell them.
Tell them and then tell themwhat you just told them Really.
Rosie Zilinskas (10:05):
Exactly.
And so when I'm interviewingguests on my podcast, I say tell
me what you do and all thosethings to the last part of the
podcast because I transitionedto okay, so let's figure out,
how did you get to where you aretoday?
Tell me about your journey, andthen we kind of go into their
story and their journey.
I know a lot of people starttheir podcast with tell me about
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yourself.
But when I'm on a podcast andsomeone says to me tell me about
yourself.
You know, introduce yourself tothe audience.
I'm 55 years old, carl.
Do you want me to start whenI'm like when I was born, in
kindergarten, in high school,like where do you want to start?
So I always start with like thelast 10 years.
School, like where do you wantto start?
So I always start with like thelast 10 years.
But it's really hard when theinterviewer or the podcast host
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is like introduce yourself tothe audience, and that just
doesn't feel right to me.
Carl Richards (10:54):
That drives me insane Not literally, but it
really when you say where do youwant me to start?
I used to stutter when I was akid.
You want to hear about that?
Do you want to hear the storyof not going into acting and
going to college to be inbroadcasting?
Do you want to hear that?
Do you want to hear somethingabout my personal journey?
Do you want to hear that?
What is it that you really wantto hear?
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So when I say, when I share withpeople and I think most of us
are on the same page it's wherein the journey does it make
sense.
So usually within theintroduction which, of course,
now I do after, I do it allafter Right, so you're hearing
this.
By the way, if you're listeningto this, you've already heard
the introduction, but at therecording of this here, it is
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the end of the summer 2024.
Rosie hasn't heard herintroduction yet.
So when she hears this, she'llbe like oh, that's what that
sounds like.
Okay, but you know, reallybeing able to have that organic
story and bring people along onthe journey, I think is crucial,
a very crucial component.
Rosie Zilinskas (11:53):
Yes, absolutely .
And again, you know we want togive the audience what they're
here for.
My podcast is women that aretrying to figure out how to
advance in their careers, andthen I kind of share with them
you know, the rest of the storyfor the guests.
So yeah, yeah, phenomenal.
Carl Richards (12:09):
Let's talk about guesting.
Let's talk about guests for aminute.
Yeah, challenges that you'vehad with guests let's talk about
.
Rosie Zilinskas (12:15):
Okay.
So I'm going to ask you aquestion have you ever had
podcasting guests with West?
I don't know, I don't know.
Okay, so I was on the episodenot too long ago and it was.
We got on camera on Zoom, justkind of like how you and I did,
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and the host started recordingimmediately.
He or she started asking mequestions immediately.
We got into the conversation.
So there was no chit chat.
No, hey, rosie, how you doingNothing?
Then we talked about the topicfor 25 minutes and he said all
right.
He or she said all right, thankyou, click.
And then he disconnected thecall.
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Wow, no debrief, noconversation.
No, thank you for being here.
No, nothing.
And I literally went out to mykitchen and I told my husband I
just got podcasting guestWhitworth and I was just like
you know, when the Zoom ended Iwas like, literally, I was like
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what just happened?
I do not know what justhappened, never happened to me
before.
So that was one challengingexperience that I've had
interesting guests, the twobasic kinds that when I say
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guests.
Carl Richards (13:40):
The two basic kinds are can carry on a
conversation quite well or theycan't.
And sometimes, if they cancarry on a conversation, they
carry it on too far, too long.
I had one recently and when wegot to the end of the
conversation, this particularguest said so how was that?
Was that about 10, 15 minutes?
I said no, we were going foralmost an hour and a half and I
(14:00):
was afforded the opportunitytime-wise.
I didn't have to rush to anappointment or have an online
call, but it's still totally noconcept of timing.
So it was interesting, becausethen I have to say okay, team,
here's the episode.
We might have to truncate thisor we might have to separate it
and do like a part one, part two, because there was so much
(14:22):
detail, so much information andagain, I'll take responsibility
for this and sometimes I don'tset it up properly.
So if I say something like so,rosie, tell me about yourself,
okay, I haven't set you upproperly to do that, so I might
give you way too much leash.
Or you might say something likewell, I'm a, you know, I'm a
(14:42):
high performance coach and I'm apodcaster and a mom and, you
know, got a couple of dogs andthat's it, because I haven't set
the table for the other thingthat drives me crazy and this,
this also is the responsibilityof the host is the asking closed
questions Right, but as theguest, is the asking closed
questions Right?
But as the guest, it'sunderstanding that if a host
asks you a closed question,don't close it simply by saying
(15:09):
yes or no.
And again this goes back to theexperience of you've had
guesting experiences, but you'vealso had hosting experiences
where you know you're like, ohshoot, I shouldn't have asked
that question like that becauseit's potentially a closed
question.
But give me a little bit more.
So I really try to make surethat I don't ask a closed
question.
Rosie Zilinskas (15:21):
Yes, no, I totally agree.
We need to be prepared enoughso that we can carry on the
conversation.
I've been pretty fortunate.
I really haven't had a lot ofguests where the conversation
doesn't generally flow.
It's just very conversational.
Like I say, I always have a setof idea of, like what we're
going to talk about and you knowhow it always starts.
But I haven't had a lot ofhorror stories per se for guests
(15:45):
, but I've had a few as myselfbeing a guest, so that's a
little bit different.
Carl Richards (15:50):
And the other piece to that too is I don't
know if you've started gettingrequests.
I'd like to be on your show.
Obviously, I know throughPodmatch you can have that set
up that way.
But I get email requests sayingI think so-and-so would be
great for your show, so you canvet your guest ahead of time.
But even if you do that,sometimes you'll either get an
individual who isn't quite thebest fit yes, what would you do
(16:11):
in that case?
If they're not quite the bestfit, would you say, hey, you're
not the fit or say, hey, you'renot the fit.
Rosie Zilinskas (16:19):
Or even after the recording, would you say,
hey, it's not going to work out.
Yeah, first of all, I'm alwaysvery kind.
You know I always want to makesure I'm very respectful and I
always say you know what?
My podcast caters to women inthe corporate space.
You're a health coach, so therereally is no synergy.
It doesn't align.
So thank you so much forapplying.
So you know that's fine.
But I will tell you I do have apet peeve about guests applying
(16:40):
to my show.
And so, as you saw, when I sentyou a reach out and said you
know, I'd really love to be onyour podcast, I gave you all
kind of my talking points.
I gave you a lot of informationthat we could kind of take this
conversation and I will getreach outs, whether it's via
email or even on Podmatch.
Can I be on your show?
(17:01):
Literally, it'll say that I'dlove to be on your show, with no
other information on it and I'msorry but I'm not going to do
your job.
So when I get stuff like that,I just delete it because it is
so disrespectful for you to be.
I want to be a guest on yourshow and then not give me any
talking points, or why you alignfor my show.
(17:23):
What are some of the topicsthat we can talk about?
You know some speaking points.
Something do a better job atpitching yourself to podcast
hosts, so that is a pet peeve.
Carl Richards (17:34):
I think that's a good key there too, and I think
in some cases it's inexperiencethey're very new to podcasting
or they're new key there too,and I think in some cases it's
inexperience they're very new topodcasting or they're new to
the platform.
And Alex makes it really simple.
Let's see.
I mentioned his name again.
I swear to goodness I shoulddefinitely be collecting
royalties for that.
But the other piece is maybeit's a confidence issue.
Maybe they're not quite surehow to pitch themselves to a
(17:55):
host.
I know when I first jumped onPodmatch I'm like, okay, well,
and I know how to do it, had itdone for my show.
So I know, but for somebody whois brand new, they might not
know the best way or have theconfidence to be able to do it.
My pet peeve is love to be onyour show.
Check my bio If you think it'sa fit bye-bye.
Yeah, I need a little bit morethan that.
Yeah, I'm going to check yourbio anyhow, but give me
(18:16):
something other than that.
Rosie Zilinskas (18:19):
Exactly.
Yeah, it's exactly.
They're not giving you reasonswhy to go further.
So if I get information likethat, where it's just like check
my bio, I'm not going to do thework for you, so I'll just
delete it or ignore it.
So that's part of my process.
Now, at the very beginning,Carl, when I was a very new host
(18:40):
, I was trying to reply toeverybody, and now I get dozens
and dozens and dozens ofrequests and I just can't do
that anymore, which I understand.
But the people that really arenot a match, those people I
definitely reply to them and I'mlike it doesn't align, You're
not a match, so yeah.
Carl Richards (18:57):
I'm experiencing a very similar thing, and it's a
good problem to have versus.
You don't have enough guests,right?
So thankfully there's aplatform out there that allows
us to do that.
I did want to jump on thispiece, though, about confidence
building, and I know that wejust brushed on it, but there's
tools that you provide.
From a business perspective,confidence is important.
(19:17):
Whether you're on a podcast,whether you're in business, you
need to not just put your bestface forward, but confidence is
something that customers,prospects, they know if
confidence isn't in your blood,Absolutely so, you know in.
Rosie Zilinskas (19:31):
So in the United States the common phrase
is in real estate it's location,location, location.
For me and my clients forcareer advancement.
But this applies to everybodypreparation, preparation,
preparation begets confidence.
The more prepared you are, themore confident you become.
(19:51):
So think of a time, Carl, whenyou did your homework on a guest
and you were about to hitrecord and you felt like a
million bucks because you knowexactly what to say.
And I'm sure you've had othersituations where you didn't have
time to do your homework on aguest and you're like trying to
look at the bio five minutesbefore you're going to record
and you're like, oh my gosh, Idon't know what I'm going to
talk about.
That feeling of like thatanxiety that comes from not
(20:16):
being prepared is very real.
That comes from not beingprepared is very real.
So for me, when you are tryingto be confident in something,
that means that you need toprepare in whatever it is that
you're trying to do, and that issuch a key, such a huge thing
for people to understand.
When you feel anxiety, when youfeel that lack of confidence,
(20:40):
it's because you haven'tprepared well, and that is a
game changer for people tounderstand.
It's simple, but it's superpowerful.
Carl Richards (20:50):
Especially true in the speaking world.
Yeah, One of the things that inmy journey doing speaker
training that I would share withpeople like, preparation is key
, and I would be at networkingevents or other meetings and you
would know the ones who wereprepared, because they're the
ones who came out underconfidence in what they were
doing, Not overconfident, butdefinitely clearly confident in
(21:10):
what it is that they would besharing.
I think that that's a piecethat sometimes people forget in
the podcasting space and I'vehad that happen and I think the
reason why for me there's acertain comfort zone is it's
happened outside of thepodcasting world.
For me, yeah, having spent 25years in broadcasting, where
every now and again I would haveguests showing up to the studio
and again, this is when radio,for the most part, was live.
(21:33):
All the time you have a guestcoming to the studio.
You don't know they're comingbecause the sales department
might have forgot to tell youthat.
Oh yes, so is coming to talkabout their event and they're
showing up and you have like twominutes not even two minutes to
say, OK, let's dive into whatyour event is, and I think that
helped me in being confident ingoing in unscripted or unprepped
(21:55):
.
Not that prep isn't good,because it is, but that's a
different skill altogether,almost like improv.
But improv is something that'staught.
You don't just wake up in themorning and say I'm going to do
improv like they do on WhoseLine Is it Anyway?
No, you need to go in knowingthe rules of the game.
So I think learning the rulesof the game number one.
But then also, if you don'tknow the rules, then you have to
(22:16):
go in with more preparation.
You need to be.
You're not seasoned enough tothink you can just off the cuff
wing it, shall we say.
Rosie Zilinskas (22:24):
Yes, I totally agree with that, and you know
now that I think about it.
I did have a guest one time andat the time this was early on,
when I was starting to host thepodcast.
This person, this woman, showedup.
She was in her vehicle, thepodcast this person, this woman,
showed up.
She was in her vehicle, she wasliterally combing her hair and
she was brushing her teeth inthe car and I was like so taken
(22:46):
aback.
I really didn't have theknow-how of say you know what,
this isn't a good time, I reallyneed you to be home, be in a
decent environment and notbrushing.
And she was literally likebrushing her teeth and spitting,
taking a swig of a water bottle, spitting it out in her car.
And I went ahead and egged tothat episode and now I would
(23:09):
have said you know what, this isnot the best time, this is not
the best episode, so let's justreschedule.
But that preparation, thatknow-how, that knowledge comes
with the confidence as youcontinue to grow in whatever it
is that you're working on.
Carl Richards (23:24):
I think it's definitely par for the course
that there are people who that'show they live their life, shall
we say.
You know they've done it morethan once.
How did the toothbrush get tothe car to begin with, and the
comb?
It's probably been in there awhile too, right, and it's not
just because, okay, I'm betweenappointments.
I need to, you know, not me,because obviously I have any
hair that needs to be freshenedup.
(23:44):
But you know, for somebodywho's going on camera for an
interview, typically, yeah, youneed to be ready, but typically
not doing it in your car.
Once you know you've done itand the person you're going to
see knows you've done it manytimes, I'm sure.
Rosie Zilinskas (23:58):
And as far as the confidence piece goes for my
clients in the corporate space,I always tell them create your
story vault, so that's like yourseven accomplishments.
Make sure that you know themand put it into that story
format.
And it's the same thing withpodcast guests.
So if you're going on podcasts,have your five to seven canned
(24:18):
topics that you always talkabout and know them inside and
out.
Be ready with them so that whenyou have a very fluid
conversation you can just pullfrom your knowledge and you're
confident because you alreadyhave that story vault, that
vault of information that isseared in your brain that you
are now able to own as an expertbecause you know them so well.
(24:43):
And that, to me, is just such ahuge confidence builder.
Carl Richards (24:48):
Confidence builder, but I think it's
leading to what you spend yourlife doing, and that is as a
high performance career coach.
This is what you're helpingpeople in this space all the
time.
This is a high level.
This is not going to a jobevery single day.
That's the same in, day in, dayout.
You know no disrespect to thosejobs, but this is at a higher
level.
(25:08):
So we need to be thinking,performing, acting at a higher
level, because, as a highperformance career coach, that's
what you're helping people dois perform at a higher, hence
the term high performance level.
Rosie Zilinskas (25:18):
Yes, absolutely , and actually I have a great
example.
I had a client that we did highperformance earlier this year
and she's now part of mymembership, so I was able to
redo.
One of the segments is aclarity chart and that's just to
be clear on your goals, whereyou're going in your in life.
And it's a lot of reflectivework and we did her clarity
chart again just a couple ofdays ago and where she was seven
(25:41):
months ago to where she istoday was completely different
because she's grown so much frombeing a high performer now and
really implementing all of thosetopics and we talk about energy
and influence and clarity andproductivity and all those
things Her clarity chart wascompletely different.
It was such a cool thing to seethe evolution and high
(26:03):
performance is for everybody.
It's not just for women incareers, but it is such a game
changer for people.
When you start, you know thatold adage of peeling back the
onion and knowing yourself.
And that's the other thingabout confidence is the more you
know yourself, the more youknow your core values and what
(26:23):
your goals are and you knowestablish your morning routine
and your evening routine, allthose things.
And it's not that we're perfect, but we have a really outlined
and defined structure and that'swhere the confidence comes in
and that's where the highperformance just helps you live
a better life, where you'rejoyous and happy and try to be
in the present moment as much asyou can.
Carl Richards (26:46):
I have a colleague who keynotes all over
the world and one of the thingshe does, it doesn't matter where
he is, it doesn't matter howhe's feeling, unless he's really
sick.
That's a little bit different,but every single day he's in the
gym.
It doesn't matter what hotelhe's in, doesn't matter.
At home he has his home gym,but when he's on the road he's
in the gym all the time, 5am or5.30 for his workout.
(27:08):
And again, it doesn't matterwhat time he goes to bed,
because sometimes his keynotesare later in the evening or he's
traveling from one country toanother or across Canada or the
US, where we're three differenttime zones.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter if he gets inat midnight, 5 am, he's up,
going to the gym.
So there's that focus, thosekeys of.
(27:28):
And you're right, we're notperfect.
Do, yeah.
So there's that focus, thosekeys of.
And you're right, we're notperfect.
Do I miss a day?
Several, I'm sure.
But if you know that this isnot just the confidence, but
this is what high performers do,is it's commitment, it's
dedication, it's doing thosethings reasonably consistently,
shall we say.
Rosie Zilinskas (27:44):
Yes, absolutely .
It's keeping promises toyourself, carl, because how many
times do you negotiate withyourself?
You're like, I'll do thatworkout later.
And yeah, I don't work outseven days a week, but I
meditate seven days a week.
I make sure that I, even if I'mat a hotel or whatever, I will
meditate in bed before I get upand do my thing.
But it is so imperative and Ithink it's funny because my kids
(28:08):
are grown now we don't havepets, it's just my husband and I
, so he can take care of himself.
But in the morning I get upgenerally at five o'clock in the
morning and I don't startworking till nine.
And they're like what do you dofor four hours?
Well, I meditate for an hour, Iwork out for 40 minutes, I get
my supplements, my water, Ijournal, I drink my coffee.
(28:29):
So it's a very slow start to myday.
And then when I'm ready and Istart my day at nine, I feel
like a million bucks.
So it doesn't happen everysingle day, but 95% of the time.
Carl Richards (28:42):
And I think that's the difference between
somebody who is performing at ahigh level it's confidence but
it's discipline to do thosethings versus somebody who is
not performing at that.
And if you need help, thenobviously that's what Rosie does
is she helps people on thatjourney.
As you mentioned earlier andI'm glad you mentioned this it's
(29:03):
not just for business owners orpeople in the coaching space,
it is for podcasters.
We have to think of this ashigh performance.
We should be thinking aboutthat pretty much in everything
that we do.
Rosie Zilinskas (29:13):
Yes, absolutely .
I couldn't agree more.
The one thing that we alwaysstart with, you know that
clarity piece.
But the second thing is thatenergy.
How do you like you can soeasily change the energy in your
day by doing a simple twominute release meditation.
So it's literally it's ameditation two minutes deep
breathing for those two minutesand all you have to do is say
(29:35):
release, release, release, andit just totally helps your
stress just dissipate from yourbody and then it just gives you
that energy to refocus,re-energize yourself and to
continue on your day.
But we have little tips andtricks and strategies that we do
so that you can kind ofreground yourself in spite of
anything that is happening inyour day that day.
Carl Richards (29:57):
I think the other thing too this is something
that I've adopted Actually, itwas my coach who browbeat me to
make sure that I do this isblocking time in your day for
yourself.
For you, you said that 5 am to9 am that's the you time and
that's awesome.
For other people it might belater in the day.
I block off lunch and I don'tjust block 20 minutes.
Again, thinking of my days inradio, sometimes that's all I
(30:20):
had was 20 minutes, but now thatI'm my own boss, I run my own
company.
No, I still need to block thathour and a half, not because it
takes me an hour and a half toeat, but because that's when I
can go for a walk, shift gears,journal, meditate, whatever it
is that I need to do, and eat aswell before I continue on with
my day.
Rosie Zilinskas (30:36):
Yes, I couldn't agree more.
And again, it doesn't have tobe in the morning or at lunch,
it could be any time during theday, but the consistency is key.
I mean, there's people thatwork out in the evening.
I could never work out in theevening because I just don't
have the energy.
But I know a woman that worksout every single day at 8 pm.
8 pm, that's when she works outand I'm like kudos to you, but
at least you're working out.
Carl Richards (30:57):
Yeah, I couldn't do it at 8 pm is when, every now
and again, somebody will wantto jump on a call at seven or
eight o'clock in the evening andI'm like what I'm?
Toast.
That's close to my bedtime right, or if I've had a long day.
Sometimes I'm just getting tothe end of my day.
It doesn't happen every day,but there are times where there
are things that go later in theday.
I'm a part of the NSA would bethe equivalent here in Canada.
(31:21):
It's called CAPS, the CanadianAssociation of Professional
Speakers, and sometimes thosemeetings are seven o'clock at
night Not all the time, butsometimes they are.
So that means I'm having alonger day.
I've built in a little bit ofextra time during the day, but
it means that I'm not.
I ain't.
It means I'm not going to beworking out at seven o'clock or
eight o'clock in the evening.
I just couldn't do it.
But if it, hey, if it works foryou, two thumbs up, right.
Rosie Zilinskas (31:44):
Yeah, our Toastmasters meeting.
So I'm a Toastmaster.
I go every Monday.
It starts from 7 to 8.30 pm andit's a little bit later.
But I love Toastmasters andit's been a wonderful feature
for me to become the speakerthat I am today, so it's
wonderful.
So I will stay up a little bitpast my bedtime those evenings.
Carl Richards (32:02):
And you'll get up before breakfast the next day,
regardless of what time you goto bed, right, absolutely.
This has been a phenomenalconversation.
Rosie, as a high performancecareer coach, I know you have
some great resources.
What would you like to passalong to folks today to help
them on their journey?
Rosie Zilinskas (32:18):
Well, there's a couple of things.
So if you are thinking aboutthe struggles that you're having
in your day, I would be happyto have a strategy, call with
your audience and just tell themabout high performance, because
I know it has changed my lifeand it has changed my clients'
lives, so that's a big thing,and they can just reach me on my
(32:39):
website at nowomanleftbehindcomto do that.
Carl Richards (32:43):
And we'll make sure that that link is there,
and also the links to yourpodcast and all other social
media where you can follow andlearn more from Rosie.
It's been a great conversationtoday, rosie, but before I let
you go, this is the one thing.
This is the one thing that isstatic in this show pretty much
is.
I'll leave you with the finalthought.
Rosie Zilinskas (33:00):
You know, the final thought is really
understand yourself so that youcan explain it to other people.
And that applies to anything,whether you're interviewing at a
job, you're trying to become aspeaker, whether you're a
podcast host.
The more you understandyourself, the more you are able
to provide someone else withthat value of what you bring to
(33:25):
them, regardless of what you'redoing.
So those are my final words,carl.
Carl Richards (33:29):
I love it.
Rosie Zilinskas, that's a greatplace to leave it.
Thank you so much for being myguest today.
Rosie Zilinskas (33:34):
Thank you so much, Carl.
Carl Richards (33:35):
And thank you for joining us today.
Special thanks to our producerand production lead, Dom
Carrillo, our music guru, NathanSimon, and the person who works
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