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Derek Eagleton, Ambar Garcia, Voch Lombardi and Bryan Broaddus discuss latest Dallas Cowboys news and notes on Cowboys Break.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 3 (00:09):
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Are you ready for a break?

Speaker 4 (00:17):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (00:17):
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Speaker 5 (00:19):
Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.
We were on with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Votch
Lombardi and Derek Eagleton.

Speaker 6 (00:44):
It's Monday, November twenty four, twenty twenty five, Season twenty.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
One, Episode eighty three.

Speaker 6 (00:50):
Welcome to the latest edition of The Break, Live from
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oh let ego. This is what happens when you have
a game like they had yesterday. Everybody did a great mood.
Yeah you did, I did, and uh, everybody had and

(01:10):
we're having some fun today. It's gonna be a fun show.
Cowboys win twenty four to twenty one in an epic
epic comeback.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Uh, maybe where's my screen?

Speaker 7 (01:19):
Screens?

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Maybe maybe the best? Maybe the best.

Speaker 6 (01:23):
It certainly is the biggest comeback in Cowboys history, but
certainly one of the most electric because it came against
the hated Eagles, So I think from that standpoint, everything
about it was just awesome. I was telling a friend
of mine, I much rather a game against the Eagles.
I'd rather beat them like that than beat them in
a blowout, just because this is the kind of game
that you hope just sits with them.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
It just kind of stews at them.

Speaker 6 (01:45):
Certainly it stews with their fans, Like you got to
see their fans get way up and then just take
it all away from always it's just great. One of
the greatest moments I ever had was when we were
in Buffalo that year, Brian, I'm with us when Romo
had all those five when he had five and receptions
and came back and won, and just walking through the
stands and the Buffalo fans just sitting there like they

(02:06):
didn't know what just happened to him. Those are always
greatest moments. So yesterday was the best.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Part about it.

Speaker 8 (02:10):
Is Twitter, Eagle people or whatever, they was running it
up at twenty one to zero, But how your algorithm works,
even after the game, they show you those earlier.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
It ain't going nowhere.

Speaker 8 (02:20):
So no, no, no, I'm just going back clicking all of them.
You know what I'm saying, retweeting I had fun layers
like the socials. Yeah, shout out to y'all.

Speaker 7 (02:27):
Man.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, I didn't want to. I didn't want to call
my boy out.

Speaker 6 (02:29):
But knew he knew he posted he was he posted
something where he was kind of like, yeah, it's over
for the Cowboys down twenty one nothing, this ain't the Raiders.
And then I was like, it's Easther though.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Those those prognostications come back on you.

Speaker 5 (02:43):
Man.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
You better be real careful when you want to throw
them out there.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
I shut up. Yeah, I do too.

Speaker 6 (02:48):
I got nothing saying, I got not saying. Well, and
we'll see how it goes. Well we win it. You
better block me, right all right. So here's a question.
I usually start with the the story of the game.
I think we know the story of this game. What
I want to find out from you guys is there
were lots of moments. What was the moment that turned
this game for you? What was the moment where you said, huh,

(03:08):
this is where this is where it's about to get
real interesting and we got a ball game I.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Got a long answer. You might want everybody else to
go first, man.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Right, thanks for the heads up, and while we want
you to go first.

Speaker 9 (03:20):
The moment, as I saw on screen right here, it
was when the Cowboys recovered that ball at the end.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
You're really on TV right now, No.

Speaker 9 (03:34):
But it is no hold on because before that I'm
thinking it run the ball, run the ball, run the ball,
and the ball ain't getting run. So they decided to
go with throwing the pass or whatever. They are unable
to get in there and get the points. So at
that point I'm like, oh, well that's it, because all
you got to do for the Eagles is now managed

(03:56):
the clock and you got that game won. And then
that play happened where the Cowboys recovered the ball, and
it was a fantastic play because I not I never
lose hope, but at that point I said, well, dang,
I guess that's it. And then it wasn't. So again

(04:17):
it came down to those last few moments of the game.
It was another game where you saw the offense just
having struggles over and over. And that's the most frustrating
part is that a lot of those things that happened
were self inflicted things. It wasn't because the Eagles were
just dominating you. It was because you were doing that

(04:37):
to yourself. So that's where you get. It was getting
very frustrating. Throughout the game. You see the scoreboard and
you're like, we are capable of being so much better
and doing so much better, and they're just over here
dropping the ball. And I don't know what they washed
their hands with or their gloves with or what was happening,
but the point is they made it happen, figure it out,

(05:00):
cleaned up the game, got George Pickens involved, and that's
where magic started happening. So I want to see more Pickens,
And I know we'll discuss that at some point and
you're THEREK, You're you're gonna bring back the conversation and
you're like, oh, it's better. Pickens are steady, lamb. You know.
I enjoy them both, but at times, some days sometimes

(05:24):
one person has it better than the other. So get
people to the other. Yeah yeah, yeah, so uh yeah,
it came it came down to that last play for
me where that was the determining factor there for the
Cowboys to win that game.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
Man, I'll tell you what, there's a lot of things
you mentioned that and the you know, when you look
at you're just asking for stops. You're just trying to
find a way to get some stops. And Ambar's right
about the self inflicted stuff, lining up off sides, things
like that. Difficult defense to play against when you're the offense,

(06:00):
when you're the Cowboys offense, and they had to.

Speaker 7 (06:03):
All we've ever asked is to have a defense that
could give you a chance at the end of the game.
And they did. They hung in there, They hung in there.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
It took everybody to play the play that I kind
of feel like, and I go it's it was a
play where Philadelphia's went in twenty one to seven and
they're on They're Philadelphia forty four yard lands third and seven,
and in week one we'd seen Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 7 (06:29):
Run and kill this football team.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
Third and seven, Jalen Hurts takes off on a run
and you think it's about to be a first down.
An old man Clowney runs from the backside and makes
a tackle and forces them to give up the football
at that point, and now you're kind of thinking like, okay,
they got to stop, and you know they It was
one of those things where they were, you know, the
first couple of times coming out of the blocks in

(06:52):
the second half, it's like wasted opportunity. You got the
sack after the first you got the sack, and then
you had the misfield goal on.

Speaker 7 (07:00):
The second stop.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
They were kind of they were squandering opportunities every stop
that they got, and then they finally figured out. But
when Clowney made that play, to me, that's when all
of a sudden it's like, Okay.

Speaker 7 (07:13):
It hurts, He's not going to hurt us.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
Run in the football today, like when you got a
guy chased him down making a play and then making
them happen to give up the ball.

Speaker 7 (07:22):
That's the kind of effort.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
That's the kind of plays that I felt like that
this football team made defensively and allowed their offense to
make some plays as well.

Speaker 8 (07:31):
Man Flues, Man, bro, you you ready to get that
man his love? You wasn't necessarily watching the break this week,
because this ain't the time to criticize you boy with
boy Flues. Hey man, let me tell you something. The
Eagles didn't score a point for thirty four minutes. Yeah,
for thirty.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Four minutes, eight possessions, and if it's anything.

Speaker 8 (07:49):
I've come on to break and said, and if people
in the chat y'all on miss shows, you've probably heard
me say this before, like, hey man, just get them
boys a little time to figure this out. Give the
offense time to figure this out. So when I saw
the Eagles stall install again, punt punt, punt, turnover punt,
and it was two plays on offense. It was a
big play the CD lamb on the right side, and

(08:10):
it was the big play to GP in double coverage
on the left side. When I saw that, I was like,
all right, man, the offense turned up a little bit.
The offense is turned up a little bit. I don't
know if it was a shoddy decision. Brian says it
all the time. You have to know the condition of
your team. You got to know the state of your
team where you at. You know, I man, and I
think at some point and it's happened before, but I'm

(08:32):
just talking. This time it happened. Shoddy said, hey man,
look man, we just gonna find GP and see what happens.
We're gonna find GP and see what happens. And Fangio
tried to do something. He tried his best to deal
with it. But I don't want Cowboy fans to get
too mad at CD because GP does a lot of
what he does because CD's over there. So if you

(08:53):
Cooper de g because that's who mostly Pickings was lined
up on you in a very difficult situation because GP
is most dangerous running right past you. So you got
to give them space. But if you give GP space,
the slant gonna smoke you. And it was one of

(09:13):
those two players. It was either a slant or it
was GP running past you. And the Eagles didn't have
a good feel for how to deal with that. The
Cowboys didn't get away from running the football shot it.
Hey man, you watched the break, don't you shout out
the shot. We didn't get away from the running.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Even when you're down, even when you down.

Speaker 8 (09:32):
Play action, all that stuff, it still ended up mattering.
But I think finding GP on the left side line
and find a CD deep it was a p I
believe it. Whatever it was on the right side, I
didn't catch it. You could feel you could feel a shift.
I'm not big momentum guy. I'm more old. Confidence happened

(09:52):
or game flow happens. But if there's a momentum you
felt it in those spots right there, and you go, hey, man,
if we just do this a couple more time, we're
gonna score again and again and again. Because I may
have to whisper this when I say it, because I
don't want to jinx nobody. But your defense held you down, yes,
for a long time. And I'm I'm homer, guy am bar,
I'm a homer. You're supposed to beat the hell out

(10:14):
the Eagles yesterday. Yeah, you were supposed to be. It
didn't happen. You got in your own way. It's holes
in your foot from shooting it. You were supposed to
beat the hell out the Eagles, but you overcame your nonsense.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
I get five more minutes, please, just to say something like,
caball please.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Got a few more minutes.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Maya McCarthy never would have done this.

Speaker 7 (10:33):
I feel like giving you time to talk about him.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
He never did that.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
We always got to have at least the one mention
of Mike.

Speaker 8 (10:39):
The one thing I give the Eagles credit for, Derek
Ambarbriyan is that. And I hate them people, but the
one thing I give them credit for is even when
the game is goofy and they don't score points, and
they shoot themselves in the foot and they turned the
ball over. And I watched every Eagles guy, I go, man,
how the hell they still in the game. And I
think about my team, like, man, my team will never in.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Those games yesterday. Usually they'll never.

Speaker 8 (11:02):
My team never wins games like that. And the Eagles
overcome tough games like that. The Cowboys made it tough
for themselves on purposes, seemed like, but damn we found
a way to figure that. I say, Weeks, I'm a fan, y'all, y'all,
y'all pros, I'm a fan. The cow has found a
way to figure it out, and I think that's something
that you need to be a real playoff team. It
may not happen this year, but I think what you

(11:23):
learned in this game last night, I think all those
guys are like, oh man, cool. So moving forward, I
can't false start right here. I can't drop this, I
can't trip over my feet right here. I can't hold
the receiver right here. I gotta wrap up right there.
I can't let her do that. I think those lessons
are in you now because Dak is an old man,
but this is still a young team in m in
terms of like playoff success wise, these guys ain't been

(11:44):
winning like that. Even quinnin Who's a Dog, ain't got
playoff success like that. I think these dudes are. They
learned a lot about big games last night, and I'm
not this. This is not a bit I'm not playing.
If Mike McCarthy was in charge, that's a game that
we don't come back. He don't work in no more
and that's a game that we don't come back.

Speaker 9 (12:02):
So that's why I get over so seeing those.

Speaker 8 (12:05):
Guys man just fight and fight and fight and win
it to him.

Speaker 9 (12:11):
You know, Brian Sheltonheimer, he does drive me crazy at
times when he makes some of those decisions. I'm like, ah,
but then I also love it, like it's like you
hate it, but you love it, Like I love that
he's not afraid to just go for it, like he's
gonna go and try it, not necessarily at times where
we're like, that's the right decision, or we would have

(12:32):
done that, But at the end of the day, that
is what is making him special with this team, is
him willing to make tough decisions and risk it at times.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
I do wonder.

Speaker 6 (12:43):
I do wonder if it's kind of like the aggressiveness
that he shows in some of his play calls, which,
by the way, yesterday I disagree with a lot of it.
I disagree with the fourth and three and deciding to
go forward versus punting. I disagreed with how he how
once they had the ball first and go with the
seven and ring a six yards to get to the one,
I'm like, keep giving it to Javonte Williams and let

(13:04):
him pound into the end zone. And they did not,
and it didn't end up good for them. Like I
just look at those kind of decisions and I disagree
with them. However, here's the part that I wonder. I
wonder if his aggressiveness and how he plays, how he
calls the game is also the reason why his team
plays the way that they do in a game like
they did yesterday. Their ability to bounce back, their toughness,

(13:27):
their mental toughness, they're just like relentlessness. I wonder if
there is something too, like he's building a culture where
it's like we're gonna be really, really really aggressive and
it may not always work out for us, but the
one thing the team will never say about us as
playing us is that we're not aggressive and I'm gonna
be aggressive in how I call it.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
You guys are gonna be aggressive in how you play it.
And maybe you can't get one without the other.

Speaker 6 (13:51):
And although I disagree with it, maybe it's the reason
why they had what they had to come back in
that game yesterday.

Speaker 8 (13:57):
I think you have a defense, or I would say
players on defense.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
That.

Speaker 8 (14:03):
Shody, whatever you do right here, we're fine going back
on defense and playing some more ball. Shout out to
the media team and all that sounds of sideline cinemata, ricap.
It's all fantastic. But you you you kind of get
to hear these guys talk a little bit. And I
remember Overshawn talking about a little bit. He was just
on the sideline, like, hey man, y'all done enough. Y'all
can do what y'all want, because we're gonna go out
here and do our thing anyway. And I think that's

(14:23):
that's an overall team, min that's this culture is a
is a cringey ass word, you know what I mean,
because if you're losing it if you win, and da
da da. But it's like, man, it's like all them
dudes kind of think the same. And if you listen
to I believe it was Sam. He was talking to
Isaiah afterwards. You're like, hey, man, Quinn came and told
us some stuff, and he was just like and it
got us like, hey man, let's just go play. It
is what it is, let's go take it. Let's do this.

(14:45):
Nothing like none of those guys got down about it.
And it was just twenty one to zero versus the
Eagles in this offense that you don't put points up against.
And they were just like, hey, we just gonna keep
playing defense, and y'all do y'all part. I believe one
time the Cowboys defense on the field and I think
I saw Shoddy walking the other way. He was probab
just thinking about offense or something. Right, they're gonna think
about their side. Defenses is going to think about their side,
and if that works for them, if that results in

(15:06):
Wednesday and cul.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Were you about to say something.

Speaker 7 (15:10):
I'm good man, I'm not. I just know I'm good.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
You react the same way I did with it.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
I just like to say, there's a side of me
that I wish you wouldn't have gone forward on fourth
and three at midfield because I'm thinking early in that
game and I don't want to be critical of the
coach here because I just think that. But you've got
a team in Philadelphia that's kind of been struggling on offense.
Make them drive the ball. Make them drive that ball.

(15:35):
I mean, you know, defensively, I get it. You're trying
to show your team and all that. You know, maybe
maybe you could have made a play. I mean, maybe
it could have got the first down. Maybe you drive
and it's again and it finishes out the one that
the kicking the field goal at the one or thinking.

Speaker 7 (15:51):
About that, I can understand it.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
I didn't agree with it initially, but then now, like
Fox talks about knowing your team, he knew his defense
was playing well enough that if like, okay, if I
put them on the three yard line, you know, then hey,
there's a shot that we're going to get this ball back.

Speaker 7 (16:09):
Because they had not moved the ball at that point
at all.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
I mean it started in the second half, it went
all the way through the fifth drive of the half
they had that was a force fumble by Williams. I mean,
Dallas's defense was playing great. I could understand that. But
there's a side of me that's also like kick the
damn thing and go ahead and now go play defense again,

(16:34):
you know, and then in this thing and so.

Speaker 9 (16:37):
Well, had they lost.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
I feel like I didn't. I did not understand at
the time. I'm like, you've got to kick it and
play defense. And I'm gonna be honest, his defense as
offense bailed him out. That could have been a very
very very bad situation. And you know, but the way
and I always say this, and that's right, the way

(16:59):
that he knew his team, He's saying, well, if I
give him the ball in the one yard line of
three on and I agree, run it in from the one.
What do we what are we doing here? Just run
it in. You've got you know, chruck, just get one yard.
But man, that was there was some question ones. I
think his team sometimes coach, sometimes players make coaches decisions

(17:22):
the right decision. I think yesterday his team made that
for the right decisions for him because they clearly bailed
him out. There were some things that he should not
have done in that game and he got away with.

Speaker 8 (17:33):
Do you guys think that Shoddy's decision making changed throughout
the game the more he learned who his defense was,
because you got guys on defense now and they played
a great game yesterday. But these are still new guys
and we're coming off the Raiders, So maybe he goes
in that very that very first drive of the game.
I'm going to be super aggressive here because maybe I

(17:54):
still don't trust my defense to make a stop just now, right,
But the more the game goes by, you see that
your defense playing a little better. Like, maybe he wouldn't
do that knowing that his defense can actually play versus Eagles.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
But I would think the opposite. I would think if
you were.

Speaker 6 (18:07):
Concerned about your defense, you don't let them in a
situation where on fourth and three you decide you're gonna
go forward and risk giving the Eagles the ball at
the fifty. If you're concerned about your defense, you want
to make the Eagles drive the full field. If you're
concerned about your defense early in the game, me.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
And you've disagreed on this twice already.

Speaker 8 (18:22):
I think that when the Cowboys defense was bad, it
don't matter whether other team get it. Yeah, they're gonna score.
In my mind whether they.

Speaker 7 (18:29):
Get on it. I think we're past that now. Yes,
we're so passed past that now.

Speaker 6 (18:33):
So my point would be, if you're still concerned at
this point you're not concerned to the point where you
think they're just the horrible defense and no matter where
they are, they're gonna get they're gonna score. Now you
think if I protect my defense just a little bit,
they can do something for me. If I make it
team five ninety yards, Yes, I feel pretty good about it.
And that's why I'm like, if that's where he was sure,
then I feel like he would have punted there. I
think it was more about the fact that and this

(18:53):
happens with in my opinion, this happens with play callers
who are also the head coach. Offensive play callers is
they get a little enamored with their offense. They're like,
fourth and three, we can pick up fourth three. I
gotta play for him. We can do this, and then
it makes to make a decision that really ain't the
best decision, necessarily for the overall game, but for the offense.
He's like, they just feel confidence, supreme confidence in their

(19:14):
offense's ability to get the yards.

Speaker 8 (19:16):
But what I'm asking though, is did he learn that
later in the game, Like first drive, I'm gonna be
super versus Eagles defense. By the way, I'm gonna be
super aggressive versus Eagles defense because I don't trust my
defense right. But then later in the game, he goes, Okay, well,
maybe I can make these decisions like go for it
on fourth to one the goal line, because now I
trust my guys a little bit more. Now you know

(19:37):
what I'm saying. So where maybe if I do. If
he knew what this defense was going into this game,
maybe he would have punted it right there, but maybe
he learned more about those guys throughout the game.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
I kind of feel like the next three weeks, you
punted against the Eagles, you go forward against the Chiefs,
and you go forward against the truck.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
It's gonna be some more punts.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
I because to me, Hurts is struggling a little bit. Yeah,
he's struggling. They're struggling with the health of their offensive line.
They're not running the football. They've got studs at wide receiver.
You kept your tiding quiet, but I think you had
to go into that game thinking make Philadelphia drive it.
Kansas City's got a Hall of Fame.

Speaker 7 (20:16):
Quarterback, he'll drive it.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
And you got outstanding playmakers with the Lions. I think
there's I think there's kind of every game is going
to be a little bit different.

Speaker 6 (20:25):
Sure, I agree that we're gonna take our first break.
We're gonna come back and let's dive into this offense.
We got to talk about dak we got to talk
about George Pickens. There's a lot of things to talk
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here we go. Let's talk about the offensive side of

(23:38):
the ball. Dak Prescott yesterday twenty three or thirty six
to sixty four percent completion rate, three hundred and fifty
four yards, two touchdowns, one interception of one hundred and
three point two rating. He also had one rushing t TD.
Give me an assessment, by the way, he did also
become the all time leading passer in Cowboys history, overtaking
Tony Romo.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
How would you assess his day yesterday?

Speaker 9 (24:00):
Man?

Speaker 8 (24:00):
You know, Derek, I'm I've gotten into some arguments with
some with some folk about this and chat view them.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Look at y'all.

Speaker 8 (24:07):
I've gotten into some arguments about this recently, man, because
people think I'm like this damp.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
They think I'm Brian, they think I'm justist.

Speaker 7 (24:16):
You know what I'm saying chapologist.

Speaker 8 (24:18):
But I asked Brian this question. I asked my audience.
I'll ask you guys as well. Right, how do you
grade a quarterback on a curve versus one of the
best defense in the league.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
You know what I'm saying. And the game ain't pretty.

Speaker 8 (24:30):
And what I think that was that cowboy fans ain't
used to ugly games versus good teams.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
This hit.

Speaker 8 (24:34):
So unless Dak is doing a perfect game, it ain't
a good game by him. But there's gonna be some misses.
It's gonna be some miscues, gonna be intercessions here every
now and then, right, whatever, whatever. But you throw for
three hundred and fifty yards, two touchdowns, you rush for one,
and you throw a pick versus the top three defense
in the league.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
And by the way, you did that coming from behind down.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Three score, trailing, trailing twenty one points.

Speaker 8 (24:55):
It may have looked ugly, but due to the circumstances,
I think that's a funny nominal day.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
I agree, And it.

Speaker 8 (25:01):
Sounds like Dak apologist. Guy, Dak missed some throws that
everybody going missthrows go back, and and I don't want
to sound like this guy.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Watch the film.

Speaker 8 (25:10):
Watch the film, But watch Eagles versus Lions, Watch Eagles
versus Chiefs, Eagles versus Packers, these are all teams you respect.
Jordan Love, Pat mahonmes, Jared Goff had tough days versus
that defense where they're missing a bunch of passes, they
throwing the ball to the other team.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
They're just not scoring.

Speaker 8 (25:24):
In general, this line offense that y'all so afraid of
scoring nine points versus these people. The Lions don't let offense,
I mean, the Eagles defense don't let offenses do anything
at all. So yeah, you know, the Cowboys running too
this adversity, and Dak Prescott throws for three hundred and
fifty yards. If there's not drops, nonsense and miscues, you
might throw for four hundred versus Eagles on a curve

(25:48):
versus that kind of defense. That's like a five hundred
yard Fox touchdown day to meat. In my mind, I
think that Dak Prescott played phenomenally.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
You know, essentially.

Speaker 6 (25:55):
I think when people take that approach, and Brian, I
heard last night there was a caller and I was like,
get him. There was a call of that that went
in on Dak a little bit, and I was kind
of like, I agree. I think people that don't watch
enough NFL football they start thinking that if it's not perfect,
it's not good enough. Like it's either you have to
be great or you suck. There's no in between. And

(26:19):
I'm like, this is a nature of NFL football. When
you play the better defenses in the league, it's not
about having a perfect day. It's about finding those moments
to make the play you need to make in order
to get the win, which is what Dak Prescott did yesterday.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah, he had some miscues. The offense had some miscues.
That's the nature of playing in the NFL. All these
teams are good. I shouldn't say all these teams.

Speaker 6 (26:38):
There are a lot of teams out there that are
really good. And there's certainly some of the better defenses
that you're gonna run into where it ain't gonna be
a perfect day and you're gonna have to figure out
how to deal with adversity, and adversity sometimes is caused
by your own hand because you miss a throw. They're
in the right spot and you can't quite you know,
against a bad team, maybe that interception he we used
that right in and it doesn't get intercepted but against

(26:59):
the good defense, now it's an interception. That's the nature
of playing good defenses in the NFL. He did what
he needed to do in order to get a win,
and I think that's the way you have to look
at You can't look at it as it's either great
or nothing.

Speaker 8 (27:12):
The nerve of these people to say, oh, deag missed
like five throws versus one of the bis defense in
the league is crazy.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
Usually twenty one nothing down to Vic Fangio is church. Yeah,
it's church, and you know, and that's a battle.

Speaker 7 (27:26):
That's a battle. Dak and that man.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
One day they're gonna meet and have a beer together
and talk about all the battles they've had. I mean,
I know it's a little bit of a small sample
size right now. As long as Fangio keeps coaching defense
in philadelph there'll be more battles ahead. But that's tough.
That is a tough You've got two quality cornerbacks, you know.
Now they're a little bit they struggle a little bit
at the nickel spot. And Dak did a good job
of making sure that, you know, when adri Jackson was

(27:51):
on the field, that they took advantage of that but
you have to try and find a way to navigate
that secondary, navigate those two inside you know, tackles and
the way that they pushed the middle of the pocket.

Speaker 7 (28:03):
You got linebackers in Dean and Bond.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
That when they play when they mean they they affect
passing game. You know you watch them, and I mean
sitting down and watching the tape this morning, you know,
I there was there was a couple of times. I
mean Dak got lucky on a you know, he play action.
Dak's been great in play action. He turns his back
to the defense. I don't think he saw Bond. This
is one of these crossing route, you know, CD trying

(28:27):
to get across the middle of the field and Bond.
It's luckily the ball wasn't intercepted. I mean Dak, I
don't think Dak ever saw him. And so, you know,
sometimes these defenses are up to it. I mean, your
line did a great job, your receivers ferguson everybody when
they had they had to come up with plays. I
think Dak did a great job of getting the ball
to where he needed to. But man, that is a

(28:50):
struggle to have to deal with that defense and have
to deal with that defensive coordinator because he makes it
very very difficult on Dak well.

Speaker 9 (28:58):
Also not to lose confidence and continue to feel like
he can throw to for example, CD Lamb. I love
CD Lamb. There were times around where we're throwing the
ball against like like you don't find somebody else where's
picking you know, I love you CD. But yesterday, you know,

(29:19):
but that's that was me at the moment. But going
back to Dak and Brian Scholtenheimer, there is just maintaining
like believing in the guys that they know they have
and continue to rely on that. I think Dak a
lot of the times he's been criticized for not being
able to finish games, and yesterday it was a prime

(29:41):
example that he is at that level of his career.
He's shown that all throughout this season, regardless of the opponent,
He's shown whether they come up with a win or not.
There was that one game that was pretty bad. I
forgot which.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
No Chicago worse off performs yeah oh this.

Speaker 7 (30:01):
Year yeah yeah.

Speaker 9 (30:03):
Yeah. So again it's I'm very impressed and proud to
see Dak be at this level right now of his
career because if there's any time for him to be
playing this way is now, especially after that contract. So yeah,
I think Dak he is in his prime right now.

Speaker 7 (30:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (30:24):
This actually where Dak is right now reminds me a
lot of where Romo was at the end of his career,
where you cerebrably you were like, this guy gets it.
The only thing about Rome was he couldn't stay healthy
at that point. Once he got to that point where
he really understood the game and could literally like mentally
pick the defense apart, he didn't physically He wasn't physically
able to stay healthy. The good thing about Dak is

(30:45):
Dak is staying physically healthy during this prime of his career,
which I think this is where he is. He's in
his prime right now. We don't know how long that
runway is, but he's in his prime right now. He's
playing a different brand of football than we've seen from
in the rest of his career. Not to say he
wasn't good in other years, he's just at the point
now you can just tell his confidence is at an
ultimate level. He knows what he's doing, he knows exactly
what he's trying to get out of every play, and

(31:06):
you can see him playing with that level of confidence.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Let's talk about the receivers.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Though.

Speaker 6 (31:10):
George Pickens nine of nine, he had nine targets, nine
catches yesterday, one hundred and forty six yards and a touchdown.
He is playing phenomenal football right now, Ceedee Lamb. Even
with only four catches and seventy five yards, he did
have seven passes that were throwing his way that he
did not catch.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
He had a few drops in there.

Speaker 6 (31:29):
Are you guys at this point concerned at all about
the drops or do you look at it as Hey,
I'll take him as a package because this is how
I look at it.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
I'll tell him as a package deal.

Speaker 6 (31:38):
If George Pickens is doing what he's doing, then I
can afford to deal with a little bit of CD
not being at his best because my thought is that's temporary.
I know CD coming into this year and even early
parts of the year, I said CD was one of
the top three wide receivers in the league. Right now,
he may not be playing at that level, but he
has that ability and so once he gets back to

(31:59):
that a bill, everything's gonna be fine.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Where do you guys fall on this?

Speaker 8 (32:03):
I think it's mental for him. I think in these
big game situations. I think he wants to be so
good so bad that sometimes he kind of gets in
his own way a little bit and he's like pressing,
he's fighting the ball.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
It's just not coming to him.

Speaker 8 (32:16):
Like CD's at his best when he's when he's confident
and you know, throwing up signs in the camera stuff
like that, Like he's he's at his best doing that,
you know what I mean. But when he's clapping on
the sideline, he's deep, you know, taking deep breaths.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
And all this kind of stuff.

Speaker 8 (32:28):
I think, if anything, CD needs to go to GP
and be like, appreciate you because where he kind of
falls short, Like GP didn't blink yesterday.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah, at no.

Speaker 8 (32:36):
Point did he did? He did he blink? And I
think they they both need each other. And I think
GP grateful for him. CD grateful GP. But when you
needed a play and you know, shouts out to shotty
Man for kind of getting the feel for his guys
and knowing where he at with it. Hey man, we
ain't missing with GP right now. And maybe when we
go play Detroit, maybe Detroit got something for GP in

(32:57):
line and we're gonna need CD real bad. Hey, then see,
you have a perfect opportunity to step in and dose.

Speaker 6 (33:02):
I'm gonna put money on it this week, gonna have
a week because I just think that's how it sets up.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
When you got.

Speaker 9 (33:08):
Training, did you train? Did you take the NFL training?
What are you talking about putting money on?

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Did I say that? Did I say anything about money?

Speaker 1 (33:15):
I don't think.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
I don't think I said anything about money.

Speaker 6 (33:19):
But here we wanted to see I was doing about
just like my lips started, Chairman, I'm but you're not.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 6 (33:30):
I'm just saying like, I think this is the kind
of week where, after all, because there's gonna be a
lot of talk this week about what Cede Lamb is not,
I think Ceedee Lamb will respond this week, and I
think this game you will see a level of ceed
Lamb that we saw earlier in the year, and and
that'll be the way it should go. When you got
two guys like this, you should be able to ebb
and flow with them. Because also defense is gonna start saying, okay,

(33:52):
let's start let's start giving more attention to George Pickens
because he's a problem.

Speaker 11 (33:56):
Now.

Speaker 6 (33:56):
I don't know if that's gonna help because you put
two guys on George Pickens.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
You'll still go about it. He's still going to do
his thing.

Speaker 6 (34:01):
But I do wonder if the defensive start flipping. I
wonder if we start seeing or at least this week,
we see Ceedee Lamb come out and have a really,
really great day.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Go ahead, Brown.

Speaker 7 (34:09):
I'm sorry, No.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
I think there were three passes that were well played
by the Eagles in this game. If you look at
the targets, I think with the Mitchell and Dejene Blanket
Ship Dak had the interception on Dak. It really just
he couldn't get anything on the ball, and blank and
Ship did a great job of carrying the route. They
had guys in the area. It's just it was really
a poor decision by Dak.

Speaker 7 (34:30):
You don't throw.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
I mean, Lamb was initially open, but he couldn't get
him the ball fast enough and then he just tried
to get it to him and that's just a bad throw.
But there were a couple, like I say, we're three
times where I felt like that Lamb got the ball
knocked away. And then there were two times there was
once in the first and once in the third where
the ball where he's running routes in the middle of
the field and he has to extend to get the

(34:52):
ball and it clearly hits his hands and he's not
able to bring it in, you know. And those are
the kinds of things. Those are the ones that were
mean of all the targets and stuff like that. I
mean the pass he made on the free play, the
catch he made down the sideline, Hello catch, hella catch.
His ability to adjust could toward his body and to
haul it in, you know, for a guy that was
kind of struggling during the day, that was an unbelievable play.

(35:17):
But there were two clear balls that I thought were
needed to be caught and they weren't caught. But the
other ones, I think you had to deal with some
contested catches. You got to give those the Eagles secondary
some credit the way that they keep saying that.

Speaker 7 (35:31):
But I'd love to have.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
Cooper Degene on my team. I'd love to have Quinn
Mitchell on my team, because you know what those guys
drive on the ball. They get their hands in there,
they know how to play around the receiver. Yeah, is
maybe Lamb letting the ball get to him a little
and maybe if he extends his hands and stuff. It's
a different story. But those guys made some good plays.
You got to give them credit for that. But like
I say, the two across that one where I know

(35:56):
he really had to extend himself, ball hits his hands,
He's got to make that play. So unfortunately he's, as
fodd says, he's fighting.

Speaker 7 (36:04):
It a little bit.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
But man, when they needed a big, big play on
that free play, that son of a gun showed up.

Speaker 5 (36:10):
Yep.

Speaker 9 (36:11):
Yeah, I'm not concerned about him whatsoever. And I think
I'm on line with everything that you guys said. These
guys need each other. They compliment each other so well.
They match each other's energy. I'm talking to about City
and Pickens, so I'm very happy with the duo that
they create, and just by having both of them on

(36:34):
the field, Like even with City there, even if he's
doing that, he's a well respected wide receiver in the
NFL regardless, and that only creates opportunities for Pickens as well,
and vice versa. They're creating opportunities for each other. It's unfortunate,
but that they had. He had that kind of day yesterday,
but it happens. It happens. Sometimes you have a bad day.

(36:55):
I know there was that other game where he had
some drops and now you're like looking at Okay, oh,
is this now a problem? But I don't think he's
there yet to where you begin to not trust him.
I think it showed a lot and I'll repeat it again,
what Brian Schottenheimer decided to continue to throw the ball because,
like I said, I would have stopped throwing that ball

(37:17):
to him, but they continue to rely on him, and
I think it just builds on his confidence and it
maintains him at that high level. So I'm okay with it.
I mean, I'm okay right now that one, but I'm
not concerned that it will be an ongoing issue.

Speaker 8 (37:33):
One last thing for me, CD if you're listening, bro,
we love your regardless. I know you used to being
fifteen hundred yard receiving guy, but that's when you got
to carry the low by yourself. We're not gonna turn
our back on you. If you get nine hundred yards
at the end of the season. Let film people go
out there and fight you fight for you. Ay Man,
team's hunkering down on you, so you can't do everything
you used to do. If if your job in this

(37:56):
whole thing is to let GP go off for one
hundred and thirty five yards a game, then that's gonna
be your job for today. I'm gonna come on here, Brian,
gonna come on here at the Washing film and say, hey,
man Cee D did his job today because they ran
all that coverage over there and GPS wide them in
the middlefield. Let us fight this fight for you, bro,
don't overthink it. You good get that nine hundred y'all season,
that Super Bowl and we good to go right on
your worry about it.

Speaker 6 (38:16):
And that four for seventy seventy five still mean something
for sure. That big play on the right sideline, now
if that means something, so I mean, I think you
got to put it in context that this offense is
working as it should.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
You got two great receivers.

Speaker 6 (38:27):
You rely on both of them, and they will be
They will have to show up at different times in
order for you to get wins. We're gonna take our
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Speaker 6 (41:13):
Welcome back in the final segment of the break. We
only got a few minutes here real quick, So I
do want to ask you one question. The rush defense yesterday,
the run defense they hold Saquon Barkley, the ten carriages
for twenty two yards or two point two average. I
have a simple question for you guys at this point,
are you ready to say that the run defense is fixed?

Speaker 8 (41:32):
I don't know because the Eagles, Sorry, you know what
I'm saying. I think it's a lot that goes into it.
But what I will say, Derek, Eagles and people that's
watching you about to run into two offensive lines that
kind of got some similar issues going on, you know
what I mean. So if you if you feel like
matchup wise, these teams are different, a way that they're
similar is that their interior is probably going to be
a little compromise. I think you can do the same

(41:54):
thing to any of these teams moving forward. You're gonna
have to have some elite guards and an elite center
to be to deal with these guys. Detroit got the center.
I think one of the guards are missing. But I
don't think you're gonna run into an offensive line like
you did like last night or something like that.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
Detroit Runner did go for two hundred plus yesterday, so.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
I wouldn't watch it. They playing. I don't watch nobody.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
But who the lines play yesterday?

Speaker 7 (42:15):
Who did the Lioness players amber?

Speaker 1 (42:17):
Who the lines player yesterday?

Speaker 3 (42:18):
I can't remember.

Speaker 7 (42:19):
That's what happens when you focus on your own team.

Speaker 9 (42:21):
Giants.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Giants happened sometime versus people. But yeah, that actually shouldn't
have won that.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
The Giants should have beat him. But that's the whole difference.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
They'll never let us win like that.

Speaker 8 (42:31):
But I do think that, man, I think Quinn being
there and Kenny Clark going back home and Osa kind
of just getting there where he fit in. You can
see Osa looking better, You can see all those guys
looking better. Plus I think linebacker playing matters. I ain't
gonna say nothing else about that too, Like Wednesday.

Speaker 7 (42:47):
What I'm saying about McCarthy not being here.

Speaker 4 (42:49):
Maybe I'll say this though, you're gonna start to see
more of the five man line stuff. Yeah, you're gonna
start now. It's gonna help you in the run game.
Hang on your rear for the past because you're probably
not gonna get it's gonna have to come with the
middle pressure and stuff, maybe something off the edge. But
there's going to be some moments where the pass rush
is probably not gonna look great. I mean, you're gonna

(43:11):
have to push the middle of the pocket and because
you probably don't have I mean, it's gonna be ezaku,
it's gonna be uh, you know, clowny, those kinds of guys.
I mean, hopefully you get some wins there. Maybe you
can get you know, maybe you could get overshown involved
in some of this stuff too. But your run defenses
is so much better with your five man line combinations.
VOTs is right about the linebackers the way they play,

(43:32):
But man, your pass rush might suffer a little bit
for it.

Speaker 9 (43:36):
Well, I think, and we saw it at the beginning
of the season. That was an area that we thought
the defense had. With the addition of Kenny Clark improved
a whole lot, and you saw the difference there, and
then all of a sudden it got away from them
and they started being bad again. But now with the
new edition of the players that have been added to
the team and the line and everything that they've done,

(43:57):
I think, yeah, you're you. You're finding more consistency and
starting I don't know, I want to I don't want
to say like, oh, it's fixed because we've only seen
two games, like let's come down, let's continue to see it.
But that is something that the that Brian Scholtenheimer after
the game, he gave a lot of praise that now
opposing teams can look at the tape and be like, Okay, yeah,

(44:22):
we might not be able to run the ball against
this defense. So that is good that you're putting that
on film and starting to build that identity bag that hey,
we're not gonna let you run all over us. That's
not gonna happen. So it's happening at a pivotal moment
of the season, and I'm excited for it.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
Yeah, long runs of eight and seven yards. I mean,
Dallas in the past has been getting gashed in some
run defense stuff before the trade. Now you're doing a
much better job of controlling that. I mean, last week
you played against an outstanding back, he just doesn't have
any blocking. This week you played against an offensive line.
Like I said, it's have some problems. But that guy

(45:00):
right there, that Barkley, is difficult to deal with. And
you kept them both and checked for in a in
a week time. That's great.

Speaker 6 (45:07):
And the Eagles offensive lineman yesterday after the game did
talk about the fact that the five man front threw
them off a bit.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
They said they hadn't really seen it a lot, and
so he had.

Speaker 6 (45:16):
Yeah, that was that five man front was a problem
for them yesterday and they could we couldn't move them.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
Yeah, they should have been listening to Break. All right,
We appreciate you guys.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
People don't watch film over there, so trans and terrible.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
We'll be back tomorrow the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Brian brought us.

Speaker 7 (45:39):
Break.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
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