March 19, 2025 • 44 mins
Bryan Broaddus, Nick Harris and Ambar Garcia discuss the free agent additions by the Cowboys in the last week.
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We were with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought us Nick Harris
and Derek Eagleton.
Speaker 6 (00:37):
Hello, guys, welcome back to another episode of the Break,
presented by algolet Evil. I member Garcia. I'm here with
Nick and Brian. Derek is out this week, but we'll
discuss all the moves that the Cowboys have made.
Speaker 7 (00:52):
We haven't had it.
Speaker 6 (00:54):
I don't recall last week us talking about a lot
of those moves. So today we're just gonna take a
deep dive and all the changes on the roster at
the moment. See if these guys like it, don't like it,
what is the criticism around that. So we'll start with first.
Speaker 7 (01:09):
Of all, the trade that the Cowboys made and helped
me out.
Speaker 6 (01:14):
Nick kayir kyer Elam Kayer Elam Elam. Yeah, cornerback the draft,
the draft they got the Cowboys got him and a
six round pick for this year. This draft around and
they sent a couple of draft picks to the Buffalo Bills. Brian,
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I'll start with you with your observation on this guy,
scouting report on him, and what he brings to the team.
Speaker 8 (01:42):
Yeah, I think when you look at with with Elam,
they're gonna have to play him as a pressman corner.
And when you watch him play, when you watched him
come out of Florida, you know, several years ago when
Nick and I were working on the draft show stuff, this,
these were the types of players that you know that
that you were you were studying these guys that have
some length to him, that have some size to him.
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This is a this is a nice size corner for
you that could really play press man very very well.
And I think that Buffalo got away from that, and
there was some questions about whether that Brandon Beam, the
general manager for the Bills, made the pick. And then
we're the head coach and the general manager on the
same page when it came to this player. So maybe
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he was fighting out a little bit at Buffalo. But
I feel like you need to play this guy as
a pressman corner. Let him get up on you, let him,
let him be able to jam be able to redirect
move with those with those receivers, because I think that's
something he can do very very well. When you play
him off or in zone coverage, the reactions are not
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as good as where I think where it needs to
be so physical, corner got good size. It's going to
be a fresh start for him for the Dallas Cowboys.
So a couple of years ago, a guy that probably
on a lot of people's strap board was probably in
the top fifty when it came to players. So you know,
one of those things where the Cowboys probably saw him
the same way and hopefully they're playing more press man.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Yeah, Brian hit it on the head and mentioning that
Brandon being the Bills GM. He was asked about Kaye
last week in availability with the media and why it
didn't work out. He said, ultimately, it's on me. I
made this selection that didn't work out, and I own that.
You don't want those to happen. But man, I'm rooting
for Kaye, I really am.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
So.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
I mean it was a situation where, gosh, I'm forgetting
the guy's name who took over his spot, but he
was a six round pick in that same exact draft,
and he just a Christian. Benford just immediately took over
Kye's job almost immediately as when they were both rookies,
and he just kind of carried that on throughout the
early in their career. So it hasn't really worked out
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for Kaye in Buffalo, but coming to Dallas, there's going
to be an opportunity for him to start on the
outside as early as week one. If Trayvon Diggs is
not available to go, they're gonna need someone on the
outside opposite of Deron Bland. They're also gonna need someone
in the nickel. But there's a lot of work on that.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yea, Yeah, there's a.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Lot of problems that corner and just having depth right
now certainly helps. And look, I saw some people on
social media kind of overreacting to like, why would you
draft this bust?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
He's a first round bust and you gave up nothing
at the end of the day.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
I mean, you got a guy who's going to be
on one year rental for you, and if he plays well,
you can sign him to a second contract. It's not
like you're going to activate that fifth year option and
pay him what is it, seventeen million next year?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
You're fine.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
It's a cheap guy that you can add depth, and
it's a guy who's gonna get a second chance.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Second chances sometimes work out too.
Speaker 8 (04:32):
Yeah, and sometimes, like you say, Brandy Bean even came
out and said it, it's on him. The general manager
saw something in the player and Brandon Bean and we
all agree the Buffalo Bills are a pretty damn good team,
you know. And sometimes as a general manager, you give
a gut feeling about a player and you know it's
a first round. Yeah, that's an expensive way of doing things,
but you know, yeah, the fact that to me that
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this player you watched him at Florida and you watched
him and you watch him.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Play at Buffalo. There's some traits and things things that happen,
you know.
Speaker 8 (05:00):
I know that they were at a game against Kansas
City that was really really rough, but you know, this
guy coming in and playing. Though I could say Nick's right,
you know, sometimes people make mistakes. Maybe this guy comes
to a fresh start, a new opportunity, a coaching staff
that kind of believes in him a little bit, and
then you never know what you get out of that.
But this guy's a physical player. You could go back
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and watch him in college cover those really good Alabama
receivers and carry those guys all over the field and
make plays and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
So it's a scout I was always taught.
Speaker 8 (05:29):
Man. You see that I think will translate. Hopefully that'll
be an opportunity for him.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
Here now, as we go along the list of guys,
we're gonna play a little game and I'm gonna put
you guys on the spot.
Speaker 7 (05:40):
I just want you to give me your rating.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
You know, when you go to the doctor's office and
they have a chart with a smiley face a sad face.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I hate this. So I'm in paint ambar.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
You've got three choices here, Okay, happy face, smiley face,
a neutral face, just a straight up line, horizontal line.
Speaker 7 (05:59):
Or a sad face.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
So for this one, this uh considering, taking into consideration
what you gave up for this guy and everything that
it involves.
Speaker 7 (06:09):
Where would you rate this move for the Cowboys?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Neutral?
Speaker 7 (06:12):
Neutral?
Speaker 8 (06:13):
I think neutral right now, you know, but hopefully they
play him the right way and then it turns into
a happy face.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
But I'm going to go neutral on it as well.
Speaker 7 (06:20):
Okay, perfect.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
So the next trade that the Cowboys made not too
long after that first one was they traded for Kenneth Murray.
He's a linebacker, and this trade happened with the Tennessee Titans.
They also got a pick from the Titans as well.
What do you take into this? Do you like this guy?
Speaker 9 (06:42):
Nick?
Speaker 6 (06:42):
I know there's a we know the need at linebacker
currently for the Cowboys, knowing with overshown and all and
his injury, how do you rate this pick?
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Yeah? This is uh, this is certainly an interesting one.
And when it came down I guess that was last Wednesday,
I was like, oh, wow, this is this is an
interesting move. I I kind of adding on to what
I was saying earlier about social media being an upheaval
about these trades. It is like, essentially, you took one
of your fifth round picks and moved it to the
seventh round, and you added two players that can start
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for you this year. I don't think that's a bad
move at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
And there was.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Some Day three, twenty twenty six cheese involved, but it
wasn't anything major. And when you add a guy like
Kenneth Murray, who has the experience that he has, he
comes off being a team captain in Tennessee last year.
He can control your defense if he needs to. It's
a smart player to have involved. This is This is
not a bad move in my eyes. Now, granted, is
he the best linebacker you could have traded for. No,
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that's why he only cost a fifth or sixth round pick,
whatever it was. I think there's some instincts in the
run game that he might have to he might have
to be addressed with with Matt Eberflus. But you know,
Ebraflus has done a really good job in developing linebackers
throughout his time. Now, Murray's been in the league for
four or five years. Now, you know how much development
quote unquote does he have left? Can he teach an
old dog new tricks? The guy is twenty six years
(08:00):
I think there is still still some development left in
his game. But he's a hard hitter, he's a thumper.
I like this move. I don't think he's a long
term starter here in Dallas, but I think he's a
guy that can give you more than enough flexibility for
Demarvey and Overshowing to come off of his injury, more
than enough flexibility. If Jack Sanborn might not be ready
to command a defense early on this is a guy
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you want to have involved. I mean, experience really pays
off in this league, and he's got it.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (08:26):
I totally agree with what Nick saying here. And you know,
to me, there's this group when they went into the
free agency process, we were talking about linebackers, were thinking about, Hey,
positions that maybe I know in the draft show positions
you might double dip. My linebacker surely was one of
those those areas that we were focusing on. But to
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go out and get a guy like Murray, and you know,
I'm gonna say this, the physicality that he plays with
I think is impressive, The toughness that he plays with.
You know, yeah, is he perfect in coverage? No, not
all the time. But when you start to talk about
playing run defense, and and and filling in the in
the hole, and and and getting to the outside and
playing with a little little range, a little link to it,
(09:09):
I think that you could have done far worse here.
So I'm with Nick on this one. I Uh, is
he is he a starter? Could he be a starter?
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (09:16):
He can absolutely be start. He's proven places where he's been.
He was a starter at the Chargers, he was a
starter at Tennessee, you know, we've seen what they did, uh,
you know last year, you know with with Eric Kendricks,
and you know, hopefully you get the same kind of
results that you get a guy that that comes in
in this physical and makes plays and and you know,
and and brings an element of toughness to your game.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
And with that, they added another linebacker and make mentioned
him Jack Sandborg. This was a one year deal from
the Bears. That's where he played. What are some of
the differences that you see there and the type of
player between the Well.
Speaker 8 (09:53):
And the Bears are the Bears have got a good
group of linebackers. I felt like you know that they
they were they were Sandborn. What's surprising to me is
he was less than a million dollar player and they
let him walk. They didn't tender him. So you know,
he was able to kind of you know, Dallas jumped
in there really really quick on it and was able
to get that done. You know, probably with a little
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bit of influence from Matt Eberflus. But you watch this
guy play. Here's a guy that has a.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Real nose for the football.
Speaker 8 (10:20):
I mean, he's the tackles are there that it's rare
that you see linebackers that undercut blocks, and I mean
go dip underneath the block and then get back into
the play like Samborne is able to do. He played
as an outside linebacker, he could play an inside linebacker.
I think there's that element to him. I probably play
him on the inside more myself. But man, I'll tell
you what though. He is a guy that he's got
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a nose for the ball, he has a feeling for
how to play blocks, He's got linked he could get
off blocks. To me, you could have say it again,
you could have done far worse with you know, going on.
I think the Pro department here might have found a guy.
I'm if you play the happy face game and all that,
I would be happy. I would be smiling face on
this one. I think they did a pretty good job
of finding a guy.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
Yeah, before we move on to u Nick speaking of
how really messed up the game. But for Murray, what's
your rating?
Speaker 8 (11:09):
I tell you what, I think, I'm a happy face
happy face because they think of the physicality that he
plays with the toughness that he plays with. Both these
players or guys are happy face for me because you
know they were in on the Drake greenlawal nic will
tell you this. They were in on that green Law
made a decision to go elsewhere. They were trying their
best to make that and that would have been a
(11:30):
great signing right there, but they kind of pivoted rallied
and I think they did okay. And at these two
that they've done.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I'm going to give neutral for both.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
We'll see how they fare on the field, but I
think both of these editions are had the potential to
be really strong for that linebacking corps. They need that
depth and they bring experience along with it.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
And do you have a different perspective on Sanborn or what.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Yeah, for scond Born, I think it's it's certainly going
to help kind of transition this defense into the Eberflus era.
I mean you think back last year, I mean the
Cowboys only the two outside signings, and one of them
was Eric Kendricks. Mike Zimmer wanted to go get his guys.
He had this on field bridge, if you will, to
help usher in this new system during training camp and
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then throughout the season, have a guy that he can
trust to be the lead communicator. Now, Jack Sanborn doesn't
have the experience that Eric Hendricks had coming into Dallas, obviously,
but he's going to kind of serve that same purpose
in the sense that he already knows the system. He's
a great communicator, He's been a leader of a defense
before in an eber flu system. He's going to be
the guy that a lot of people come to with questions.
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And that was one of the questions I had for
him yesterday when he did a conference call with the media.
I was like, Okay, you know, a lot of guys
are going to come to you because you are the
one who knows it. You are the one who's been
inside of it for three years. And so he said,
it's about flying around, having an aggressive mindset and getting downhill.
But everybody has a job. He's really big into that
making sure that not only you know your job, you
know why you're doing your job, and by doing your job.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
What that leads to for other people.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
And he said, I'm willing to do anything to help
everyone else learn. At the end of the day, we're
in this together as one. There's going to be competition
in that linebacker room. But just talking to Jack Sanbourne yesterday,
I get the sense that he's going to be helping
everyone out in that linebacker room.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Well, it's like titing to see some of these changes
and what is actually going to look like once they
start training together and we go to training camp and
start seeing them, uh transform this defense into something different. Now,
staying on the defensive side of the ball, they also
signed Solomon Thomas, a defensive tackle who is coming from
the New York Jets. He played over there. What are
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your scouting report on this player?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Versatile?
Speaker 5 (13:38):
He's going to play in some different roles for you,
And yeah, we're just gonna come right back to the conversation.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
That's the conversation. He is versatile.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
He's a guy that probably factors in more so as
the backup three tech for Osa Digizua on rotational downs,
but I think he's also a guy that could play
some one tech on some passing downs because because he
can get into the backfield, he has experience with defensive
line coach Aaron Whitecott and going back to their time
with the Jets, and he can get to the quarterback
if asked to do so. He's a Kapel guy. So
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back in DFW, I I always love when that happens.
And really good dude, he's he's really active in the community.
If you look up a year from now and he's
this team's Walter Payton nominee, then I wouldn't be surprised
at all.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Yeah, he.
Speaker 8 (14:22):
Talked about when coach Whitecotton got the job that that
might be a possibility.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Because he did. He played very well.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
You know, we'll see what about the run defense stuff
and how that goes for him. I'm not totally I'm
not discouraging that at all. He got a lot out
of coach white Kott got a lot out of him
as a pass rusher. And I think Nick's absolutely right.
You play him at the three technique and let him
be the backup guy, let him play the one sum
in the nickel with him and os inside man, you
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get two pretty active guys right there. Last year, it
just didn't seem like that in the defensive tackle spot
that they had guys inside that were able to rotate
at that three. Give you some pass rush. This this
to me that I believe like this is an upgrade.
You got a guy that can rush the passers I've
mentioned you got to back up for Osa, and you've
got a guy that has some experience, and the and
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the and you got a coach here now that got
the absolute best at him. I think this is a
really good combination for them.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
I love everything you guys are saying so rated with
a little smiley face. Negas is your first smiley face.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I'm gonna say neutral, You're gonna You're gonna hate me
in this game.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
So you're going neutral with because a smiley face for
me would be going and getting Cooper cup last.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
You know what, I've been going and getting Stu fun.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
But as soon as I asked you about this guy, yeah,
you answered started answering with a smile on your face.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yeah. So yeah, I'm a happy guy. I just be smiling.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
You reacted differently than the other Yeah, I just I
just be smiling.
Speaker 8 (15:49):
I'm I will smile because the reasons I talked about,
because of the the three technique stuff, they just felt
like they didn't have somebody that could play behind Osa,
that you could really really rely on. So I give
them props. Trust me, I'm about to have a couple
of brownie faces.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
All right.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
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Speaker 6 (19:11):
So, because we still have a lot of guys to
cover here, the next one in the timeline of events
is Real mccuamum. He's another guy the hasband with the Cowboys. Obviously,
you guys are very familiar with him. Safety the Cowboys
end up giving him a new deal and he stays
here in Dallas. Thoughts on this move?
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Can I propose a question to you, Brian, go ahead?
Israel mcuamu Kayir Elam? One of them gets the start
on in week one? You can only pick one of
I know there's two up in spots, but there's only
one of them.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Let's say it's for.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Outside corner obviously, Yeah, who do you think is it?
Speaker 8 (19:46):
I think they would probably start Izzy there. Me personally,
I think I would start Elm. I just think that
I think that.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
To me that Elam.
Speaker 8 (19:55):
I think I think in training camp, we're gonna really
like the physicality that he plays with. And we'll see.
But I would say that they would is he is
he is, He's a good player for them. I mean,
he's done a good job you remember, I mean the
nickel that he the nickel job he did against Tampa
in a playoff game. You know that can't go unnoticed.
Right now, I think he's one of those guys that
are kind of trying to find a spot for him.
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But I would, I would say they would probably start him.
But I think elm is going to that's a terrible
answer because I'm riding the fence on that, But I would.
I would think they would start Izzy in that opening game.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Kim mcwalmo would be, you're starting Nickel throughout the season?
Seventeen games?
Speaker 6 (20:32):
Is?
Speaker 5 (20:32):
I think there's some fans who want it to happen. Yeah,
I think it's realistic.
Speaker 8 (20:36):
Why am I thinking about guys that at Kansas State
and a guy at Louisville and a guy at you
know other places. I'm thinking about North Carolina, Hussey I'm
thinking about I'm thinking about Nichols that they could draft
that I know could play Nickel off the jump. And
now I talked about is he. I mean, you can't
discount what he did in that game. You can't.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
I don't know if for seventeen games I could go there?
Speaker 7 (20:58):
Yeah, what are you? What's your answer to your own question.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Yeah, I agree, because I don't think he can go
seventeen games throughout the season.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
Yeah, okay, what's the rating Neutrals eighth neutral?
Speaker 8 (21:11):
Okay, always, Yeah, I think I'm neutral on this one because,
like I said, my running back at my cornerboard's pretty deep.
I'd like to see them address this position with maybe
a couple of those guys.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
All right, well, Brian, you got the timeline right, because
the next guy is a running back over here. The
Cowboys got Miles Sanders, who's formerly has played in the.
Speaker 7 (21:33):
Past for the Eagles.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
I think that's where most people kind of recognize him
from during his timeline there. And again we've heard about
the changes at the running back room and what they're
trying to do here and build this year. What are
your thoughts on a player like this Miles Sanders.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
I'm going to I'm going to pair him with Javonte
Williams in this conversation just because I get idea. They
I think they kind of run, no pun intendent. I
think they run a lot in the sense, both of
these guys being veterans in the room that you bring in,
you're expected to use, expected to use a premium pick
at the running back position. Premium pick, meaning first couple
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of days in the draft, you're expected to draft a
running back. This is a really deep running back class,
and if you grab a guy in the third round,
you're probably gonna get a pretty talented guy. He's going
to be a young guy coming into this room with
Javonte Williams, who's a really good pass catcher and a
really good pass protector, and then Miles Sanders, who has
experience and can also get out of the backfield as well.
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So that's going to be immediate competition in that room
once they get to training camp. We talked to Javonte
Williams yesterday, the media did, and the expectation that has
been set for him by the coaches is be ready
to compete because there's going to be an open starting job,
ready ready to go in training camp. So it's not
going to be hey, we draft r J. Harvey, Hey,
this team drafts DJ Giddens or whatever in the third round,
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that guy is going to be the starter. It's going
to be, hey, that rookie is going to compete with
Javonte Williams and Miles Sanders for this starting position. If
you're asking me about Miles Sanders specifically, I think he's
comfortably third in that position, and we don't even have
a rookie to place in the mix right now. Just
because his time in Carolina was not good.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
You look at the.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Yards per carry, rush yards expected over average, I mean,
it was not It was not a good time in
Carolina for him. He got passed up by Chewba Hubbard.
As soon as Jonathan Brooks came off of his knee injury,
he was immediately a replace for Miles Sanders. So I
think I think Miles Sanders is going to be working
behind the eight ball a little bit, but having that
veteran experience in the running back room will certainly help well.
Speaker 6 (23:33):
Since and we can't talk about what's going to happen
in the future, we don't know who there might draft
at the running back position. But looking at what they
currently have at the moment versus what they used to have,
what are some of the similarities or differences in the
running style that the Cowboys previously had versus what these
two guys bring to the table.
Speaker 8 (23:52):
They got worse. They actually got worse. You know, if
you look at overall, and here's this is where this was.
This is the concerning thing to me is that they
went out and hired to code. The best thing they've
done for the running game so far is hire two coaches.
They haven't helped the running game at all, to be
honest with you, you know, And like I said, I
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think Williams can catch the ball well. I think he
blocks very well. I think Miles Sanders is done, I
really really do. And you know, Ducevon we've seen Duce
Fond can't play special teams and that hurts his availability
on game day. And then Malik Davis is a guy
that's kind of just been here and had chances and
really hasn't capitalized on the chances. That room's a mess.
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And you know, to me, I would have, honestly, I
would have I would have double dipped that position. I
think the draft is deepen up where you could have
got a guy, say hi enough, I'm not saying you
have to get a guy in the first round, but
if you got a guy in the second round and
a guy in a fifth round, I think Nick would
agree with me. This running back room, or this running
back draft stretch is pretty deep, you know, to me.
So you know, you talk about wanting to run the ball.
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You show, but you make a commitment by the which
is that you hired. You didn't help yourself particularly well
with these two backs that you just signed. I think
that's still a big, big, red blinking light for this
football team.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
The two things I want to bring up.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
One, whenever they did sign Miles Sanders, you mentioned duce
Vaughan Brian. Yeah, that's that's a guy who this training
camp is probably the last opportunity for Ducefan. They're gonna
give him that training camp shot one hundred percent, but
he's going to have to prove that he's worthy of
a starting spot. And he's battled injury in each of
his first two camps. So maybe, you know, just staying
healthy might be the biggest thing for Ducewan, you know,
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being able to show that he has something in the
receiving game. Who knows, maybe this Schottenheimer offense helps him
out a little bit more. But having two veterans in
the room expected to have a rookie in the room,
it's it's kind of spelling that that duce Vaughn's leash
is running up. The other thing I want to bring
up is them signing two veteran running backs. I'm afraid, Brian,
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that we're going to be sitting in this room on
Day three of the draft.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, and there is.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Still not a running back on this team, which again
we've talked about. This running back class is deep. You
can get a guy in the fifth round who could compete, sure,
but I don't I don't know if you want to
bank on No.
Speaker 8 (26:07):
No, I mean, and I think you're right, but but please, don't,
you know, don't you know, pee on me and tell
me it's raining outside, you know, don't don't don't tell
me that. Don't tell me you're committed to running the
football and all that and not address that thing in
the first three rounds, you know, don't don't do that.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Neither of these guys are early down.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
No, not at all.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Either of these guys are the guy fifteen minutes, first quarter,
just play the game.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Hand it off to him. He's going to get you
eight years. Neither of these guys.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Are you go you know you you you swapped out.
Speaker 8 (26:34):
And maybe maybe the Rico daddle, maybe he overplayed his hand,
maybe he overplayed I don't, I don't know, I don't
know what happened with Rico Daddle maybe, you know, I
don't know if it's the Cowboys thought he was going
to get more money or Rico Daddle thought he was
going to get more money. But to me that when
that that that that was a mistake. I think on
both sides right there, you know, until somebody tells me different.
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But like I said, don't tell me you're going to
be committed to running game and try and be better
at it and load up with what your go with
what you got right now, that is not going to
get it done.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Funny enough, I was.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
I flew up to the Northeast this past weekend and
I had a layover in Charlotte. So my first flight
was DFW to Charlotte, and first class on my flight
is ric O'dowdell and I caught him coming off the
plane and he just looked super excited to be back home.
He sounded super excited to be back home, So I
wonder how much that factored into it. At the end
of the day, he didn't have a ton of time,
but we caught it for maybe twenty seconds, and being
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back in Charlotte it is a big deal for him.
He's like, Yeah, I'm from Ashville. I grew up, you know,
thirty minutes away. It's it's really good to be back.
So I you know, you factor that in, and you
factor that that room is already pretty crowded in Carolina.
I think the hometown thing was bigger for Rico Dawdle
than maybe what was realized. But coming back to this team,
Javonte Williams, I think could be a great running back
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too that you almost get me to smile on Givanta
will you might almost. Yeah, I think it'd be a
phenomenal complimentary especially at this stage in his career. He's
still only twenty four years old. He's got experience, He's
shown that he's come back off that ACL injury that
he suffered in his second season. He's a guy that
could pass protect. He can get out of the backfield
and help you in the passing game.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Absolutely, but you can't. He's not an RB one, he's
an I.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
Agree, Okay, So I clearly, based on everything you said, Brian,
we get like a frown face, mad face of a
here even.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Round face there.
Speaker 8 (28:24):
Yeah, you know, and they're gonna have an opportunity and
if and it's going to be even more of a
frown face if Nick's right about that, they wait three
time though. Even though I think there's some running backs there,
I do. I think there's some fourth fifth running backs
there that I mean, I think I've studied twenty five
of them, and I'm they're all very capable players.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Well, hopefully we are. The running back story changes this year.
We'll see what happens after the draft and we'll discuss
once again this running back room and the guys that
hopefully somebody one or two at least draft it. We'll see,
we'll see what happens there. But let's take our for
our final break. When we come back, we'll continue going
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All right, let's move on, don't Fowler.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
He's a defensive end. You guys should be familiar with him.
He's been here before and now he comes back once
again to be here and join this defense. Where is
he at right now in his career? And are you
guys happy with this decision to bring him back?
Speaker 4 (32:14):
You know?
Speaker 5 (32:14):
And Bart, you're gonna get me a smile with this one.
For a couple of For a couple of reasons. One
the sense that they they went out and were aggressive
in getting another pass rusher opposite of Miles Miles Micah Parsons,
my goodness, once they realized that DeMarcus Larns was not
going to be back in the fold, so going and
getting a running mate for Micah on those passing downs,
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and especially a violent athletic guy like Dante Fowler coming
off the season that he had in Washington. It's kind
of a career resurgence for him that he had in
DC ten and a half sacks. I thought he was
snubbed for the Pro Bowl. I thought he was a
guy that would have been a shoe in a couple
of force fumbles, fourteen tackles for loss, and this guy
he did a lot for the Commander's defense last year
and mostly rotational work, and so I think he's going
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to have a starting opportunity here. You get me to
smile because of that. Secondly, you get me to smile
because they signed a contract more than six million dollars.
Granted it's six million dollar base, but it's worth up
to eight million dollars. This is the richest annual free
agent deal that they've signed in ten years. So Greg Hardy, Yes,
since Greg Hardy. So hopefully it pans out a little
bit better than that one. And Dante Fowler can bring
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some pass rush to this team.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 7 (33:24):
I like this one too, And I'm even me smiling.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Yeah see, you know this.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Is smile this guy.
Speaker 8 (33:29):
If you go back and watch him play for the Commanders,
you know, he did a really fine job. I know
people have some questions about his ability to defend the run.
I thought he got better at that. There were some
times where you know, you watched him and blockers tried
to get up on him and he was able to
like to shed those guys to chase the ball. I
was I was happy to see that for him. He's
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he's he's like I said, I think that here later
in his career, things are kind of going in the
right direction for him. And the pass rush of the sacks,
the ability to play in the twist game. You know,
you need somebody opposite Micah And I'll tell you what,
you got a guy that can. They can they can
create pressure and he can also get sacked. So, you know,
good for the team for forgetting that done. That that
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that was a good get for them.
Speaker 7 (34:13):
All right.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
Next guy up is another guy that's coming up from
the feely Philadelphia Egel's coming up with a super Bowl.
But still this is the guy that a lot of
people have criticized as far as the fans like on
social media, because he doesn't have a ton of really
good experience on the record. He he's Perris Campbell wide
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receiver thoughts on what he what him coming to the
team actually means for the wide receiver room.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
Yeah, originally from Akron, Ohio, went to Saint Vincent, Saint Mary,
went to House State. They they got Lebron James guys.
But no, I think it's just uh, it's it's veteran
experience to add to the room.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
I think this is more so competition for guys like
Ryan Flinoyd, j Brooks, and they want they want a
veteran that can kind of be in that mix. Think
of this as like a wide receiver three slash four
competition and Campbell's kind of in that mix. This does
not stop this team from getting a running back as
early as pick twelve receiver draft excuse me, receiver receiver
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my bad, Yeah, receiver as early as pick twelve in
this draft.
Speaker 8 (35:20):
Yeah, practice is, as we all know, or long, and
there's a lot of running involved and you need a
lot of wide receivers to get through practice. And this
is one of those opportunities a veteran guy. You'll play
some preseason games, You'll have a veteran player out there.
You might have to be in a situation too where
you're trying to evaluate maybe you do draft a young
quarterback and he's going to have to play in those
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preseason games. You want a veteran guy out there that
knows what he's doing. And so this is exactly what
this is.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
It.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Nick's right.
Speaker 8 (35:48):
It doesn't keep you from doing anything else in your
draft plans for wide receivers.
Speaker 6 (35:53):
Okay, I'm gonna wait rating real fast neutral sad.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Honestly, I thought even if you were trying to add
veteran experience to like the depth of that room, I
could have done better.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
But we'll see.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
Agree, We're gonna run through these guys a little quicker
because we still hopefully we can finish before the end
of the show. We got another defensive end, Peyton Turner.
Speaker 7 (36:20):
He signed. Okay, why I.
Speaker 8 (36:24):
Tell you what I think that with Peyton Turner is
that to me, I like Peyton Turner because I like
the length that he plays with, I like the range
he plays with. I think he plays the run very
very well. And I think there's a guy that you know,
he's kind of like what we call that five technique,
that head up end that could kind of two gap
look inside, look outside.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
But I like the way that this guy plays.
Speaker 8 (36:43):
The run, and I think when they run the ball
at him, he's very capable of getting off blocks and
making plays. He's not a pass rusher. He is not
a pass rusher at all. There's probably one or two
snaps where you could see him rush the passer and
you're like, Okay, I get it, but he is not.
He's a much better run player. But I do like
the fact that they got a guy that could play
on the edge. That kind of takes over the role
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of what Golston did for you.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
You just hope he can stay healthy, and that's been
the big thing in his career. In his first three
seasons he only played fifteen games, missed a lot of time,
but last year he played sixteen games for the Saints
and mostly rotational work. Former first round pick coming out
of Houston was a really good run defender for the
Cougars in his college time. Now back in the lone
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Star State. So I'll tell you what, there is a
lot of optimism about Peyton Turner talking to people in
this building.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
So we'll see how that manifests. How are you feeling neutral.
Speaker 8 (37:41):
Thank you, I'll go smiley because I think he brings
something to play a run defense.
Speaker 6 (37:46):
Yeah yeah, okay, next one up, we have Robert Jones.
He's an offensive lineman that is coming from the Dolphins.
He signs here and this is a topic that we've
talked about. While we know that the old line still
needs work there, what does it bring to the table
and how.
Speaker 7 (38:02):
Is he right now in his career.
Speaker 5 (38:05):
We talked to him yesterday and it kind of gave
me a little bit of a different perspective of what
I had going into that call, if you will. He
started seventeen games for the Dolphins last year and it
was a super valuable experience for him. Didn't do particularly well.
He grated out as one of the worst guards in
the NFL. Actually that played throughout the season. But prior
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to that year, thirteen games of starting experience mostly at
left guard and or excuse me, mostly at right guard.
Flips to left guard for the Dolphins last year. He
said his most natural position on that call yesterday, he
said his most natural position is right guard. So you
know he's going to be competing for that right guard
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spot with brock Hoffman, TJ.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
Bass.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
You would expect a draft pick to be in the
middle of all that do they factor Cooper b b
into that competition too, But I think I'm gonna I'm
gonna go new until I see what he looks like
at right guard at training camp.
Speaker 8 (39:02):
Neutral all the way here, and it might be a
sad face because he might not be better than what
Hoppin and.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Others TJ. Bass, So I'm going to keep it neutral
on that well.
Speaker 6 (39:14):
And then they also gave another deal for the Koda.
Shepley and a lot of guys on social media. I
guess they didn't realize he was like, he's been here
in Dallas, so they decided to keep him here in Dallas.
He's a guy that hasn't done a whole lot. But
I mean, is he just adding depth here at the position?
Speaker 8 (39:32):
I think it's a guy's familiarity. I can't sit there
and act like that. I know the code of Shepley's
game is what it's really really all about. But you
know the fact that he has been here I believe
a couple of years now, so you know, it's one
of those things where you got to find a way
to show up. And they obviously feel good enough about
him that he's made some progress. We'll see with a
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new line coach. How that works for him?
Speaker 5 (39:55):
Yeah, special teams guy. Mostly in his last two years,
he's been activated for seven games. I don't think this
factors into the offensive line, not at all.
Speaker 6 (40:04):
Neutral face neutral, Yeah, neutral, Okay, next one up? Oh yeah,
I think that's it, right? Am I missing anybody else?
Speaker 5 (40:13):
Let's see. Yeah, we've gone through. We've gone through all
of them.
Speaker 7 (40:17):
We've gone through everybody.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
Okay, so up to this point and what the Cowboys
have done. So now you're gonna give me your kind
of overall overview based on all your faces, your your.
Speaker 7 (40:30):
Snake is just neutral.
Speaker 6 (40:32):
But what is your overall rating of what the Cowboys
have currently done in this free agency this year? Personally,
I think it's been pretty differently different than past previous
years because you've had more movement happening, at least from
guys that they've signed from the outside and not just
signing their own they signed their own, but also brought
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some other people from the outside. Brian, I'll start with you,
what's your overall rating for what they've done this year?
Speaker 8 (41:00):
Critical of this front office, and I've been super critical
because I don't believe that they do this. Twenty four
to seven like they want us to believe. Well, I'm
gonna give um some credit here. They actually did do
some twenty four to seven work here. They figured out
that it's going to be about the draft, it's going
to be about trading, and it's going to be about
signing free agents. Well, see if the fact that they
were able to get some guys, I think they maybe
upgraded a couple spots. I think they probably went neutral
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in a couple spots and maybe not as good as
some others. But they went out. They did this. They
had to do this. They couldn't for the second year
let depth completely walk out of this building, and they
made sure of that. So they tried to help themselves
that way. I don't think this does anything to limit
what they're going to do in the draft. I think
everything is still on board for them to pick any
player that they feel like is good enough for the
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be on this football team. But I will give them credit.
You did it, you did trades, you did free agency,
and now let's see a draft.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
So good for you.
Speaker 5 (41:52):
I think the only position that I think there's a
little bit of urgency that you can take away coming
out of free agency going into the draft is probably
linebacker just because you did, I'd run yeah, yeah, And yeah,
there's there's some urgency that's taken off there, but you
still need you could I guess more so, I'm saying
if you took a linebacker in the first two days, yeah,
that would be a little bit more surprising to me
than if you took a running back.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
Gotcha.
Speaker 5 (42:12):
But yeah, they they went out and got bodies, and
looking back to last season, they need bodies, and uh,
that certainly helps. I would have liked to see them
land an offensive weapon for for Dak Prescott, for you know,
whatever this rookie running back is gonna look like. Obviously
for Ceedee Lamb as well, just to kind of be
that running mate with him. I would like for there
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to be a second fiddle. But you know, that's that's
what the draft is also for. But you'd be putting
a lot of pressure on a rookie to to be
able to to to be that. But I would have
maybe liked to have seen that in free agency. That's
the one thing that I'd I'd come away with still desiring.
But overall, they went out and got bodies and that's
what they needed.
Speaker 8 (42:52):
At the end of the If the price comes down
for Keenan Allen, would you consider that one for a
veteran receiver.
Speaker 5 (42:57):
It kind of gives me the same vibes as Brandon
Cooks in the sense that how is he in the
sense that he's he's older, Yeah, and he's been banged
up in his time in Chicago. Now, granted, played with Eberflus,
so there's some experience there. Obviously Ebraflus on the defensi
side of the balls, it's a little bit different.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
But.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
You'd get me neutral on that for the spirit of
the conversation.
Speaker 7 (43:20):
Thirty two years old, that's not all.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Yeah, yeah, but he's got a lot of experience. He's
got a lot of experience. That's like fifty eight in NFL.
Speaker 6 (43:32):
Okay, Well, with that, we end the show. Thank you
so much. We should be back next week. Derek should
be back in the office as well, and we'll keep
talking about whatever other moves happen here and before we
get there, I know soon, and it's exciting. We you
guys can visit the website. A lot of these guys
already talked to the media, so you can get an
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inside look of kind of how they speak or you know,
their thoughts coming into the Star and starting their new
career here in Dallas. Thank you so much, Brian, Brian
Nick as well. This has been the Break on dallascowboys
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We haven't had it.
Speaker 6 (00:54):
I don't recall last week us talking about a lot
of those moves. So today we're just gonna take a
deep dive and all the changes on the roster at
the moment. See if these guys like it, don't like it,
what is the criticism around that. So we'll start with first.
Speaker 7 (01:09):
Of all, the trade that the Cowboys made and helped
me out.
Speaker 6 (01:14):
Nick kayir kyer Elam Kayer Elam Elam. Yeah, cornerback the draft,
the draft they got the Cowboys got him and a
six round pick for this year. This draft around and
they sent a couple of draft picks to the Buffalo Bills. Brian,
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I'll start with you with your observation on this guy,
scouting report on him, and what he brings to the team.
Speaker 8 (01:42):
Yeah, I think when you look at with with Elam,
they're gonna have to play him as a pressman corner.
And when you watch him play, when you watched him
come out of Florida, you know, several years ago when
Nick and I were working on the draft show stuff, this,
these were the types of players that you know that
that you were you were studying these guys that have
some length to him, that have some size to him.
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This is a this is a nice size corner for
you that could really play press man very very well.
And I think that Buffalo got away from that, and
there was some questions about whether that Brandon Beam, the
general manager for the Bills, made the pick. And then
we're the head coach and the general manager on the
same page when it came to this player. So maybe
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he was fighting out a little bit at Buffalo. But
I feel like you need to play this guy as
a pressman corner. Let him get up on you, let him,
let him be able to jam be able to redirect
move with those with those receivers, because I think that's
something he can do very very well. When you play
him off or in zone coverage, the reactions are not
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as good as where I think where it needs to
be so physical, corner got good size. It's going to
be a fresh start for him for the Dallas Cowboys.
So a couple of years ago, a guy that probably
on a lot of people's strap board was probably in
the top fifty when it came to players. So you know,
one of those things where the Cowboys probably saw him
the same way and hopefully they're playing more press man.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Yeah, Brian hit it on the head and mentioning that
Brandon being the Bills GM. He was asked about Kaye
last week in availability with the media and why it
didn't work out. He said, ultimately, it's on me. I
made this selection that didn't work out, and I own that.
You don't want those to happen. But man, I'm rooting
for Kaye, I really am.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
So.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
I mean it was a situation where, gosh, I'm forgetting
the guy's name who took over his spot, but he
was a six round pick in that same exact draft,
and he just a Christian. Benford just immediately took over
Kye's job almost immediately as when they were both rookies,
and he just kind of carried that on throughout the
early in their career. So it hasn't really worked out
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for Kaye in Buffalo, but coming to Dallas, there's going
to be an opportunity for him to start on the
outside as early as week one. If Trayvon Diggs is
not available to go, they're gonna need someone on the
outside opposite of Deron Bland. They're also gonna need someone
in the nickel. But there's a lot of work on that.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yea, Yeah, there's a.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Lot of problems that corner and just having depth right
now certainly helps. And look, I saw some people on
social media kind of overreacting to like, why would you
draft this bust?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
He's a first round bust and you gave up nothing
at the end of the day.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
I mean, you got a guy who's going to be
on one year rental for you, and if he plays well,
you can sign him to a second contract. It's not
like you're going to activate that fifth year option and
pay him what is it, seventeen million next year?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
You're fine.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
It's a cheap guy that you can add depth, and
it's a guy who's gonna get a second chance.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Second chances sometimes work out too.
Speaker 8 (04:32):
Yeah, and sometimes, like you say, Brandy Bean even came
out and said it, it's on him. The general manager
saw something in the player and Brandon Bean and we
all agree the Buffalo Bills are a pretty damn good team,
you know. And sometimes as a general manager, you give
a gut feeling about a player and you know it's
a first round. Yeah, that's an expensive way of doing things,
but you know, yeah, the fact that to me that
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this player you watched him at Florida and you watched
him and you watch him.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Play at Buffalo. There's some traits and things things that happen,
you know.
Speaker 8 (05:00):
I know that they were at a game against Kansas
City that was really really rough, but you know, this
guy coming in and playing. Though I could say Nick's right,
you know, sometimes people make mistakes. Maybe this guy comes
to a fresh start, a new opportunity, a coaching staff
that kind of believes in him a little bit, and
then you never know what you get out of that.
But this guy's a physical player. You could go back
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and watch him in college cover those really good Alabama
receivers and carry those guys all over the field and
make plays and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
So it's a scout I was always taught.
Speaker 8 (05:29):
Man. You see that I think will translate. Hopefully that'll
be an opportunity for him.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
Here now, as we go along the list of guys,
we're gonna play a little game and I'm gonna put
you guys on the spot.
Speaker 7 (05:40):
I just want you to give me your rating.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
You know, when you go to the doctor's office and
they have a chart with a smiley face a sad face.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I hate this. So I'm in paint ambar.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
You've got three choices here, Okay, happy face, smiley face,
a neutral face, just a straight up line, horizontal line.
Speaker 7 (05:59):
Or a sad face.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
So for this one, this uh considering, taking into consideration
what you gave up for this guy and everything that
it involves.
Speaker 7 (06:09):
Where would you rate this move for the Cowboys?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Neutral?
Speaker 7 (06:12):
Neutral?
Speaker 8 (06:13):
I think neutral right now, you know, but hopefully they
play him the right way and then it turns into
a happy face.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
But I'm going to go neutral on it as well.
Speaker 7 (06:20):
Okay, perfect.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
So the next trade that the Cowboys made not too
long after that first one was they traded for Kenneth Murray.
He's a linebacker, and this trade happened with the Tennessee Titans.
They also got a pick from the Titans as well.
What do you take into this? Do you like this guy?
Speaker 9 (06:42):
Nick?
Speaker 6 (06:42):
I know there's a we know the need at linebacker
currently for the Cowboys, knowing with overshown and all and
his injury, how do you rate this pick?
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Yeah? This is uh, this is certainly an interesting one.
And when it came down I guess that was last Wednesday,
I was like, oh, wow, this is this is an
interesting move. I I kind of adding on to what
I was saying earlier about social media being an upheaval
about these trades. It is like, essentially, you took one
of your fifth round picks and moved it to the
seventh round, and you added two players that can start
(07:12):
for you this year. I don't think that's a bad
move at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
And there was.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Some Day three, twenty twenty six cheese involved, but it
wasn't anything major. And when you add a guy like
Kenneth Murray, who has the experience that he has, he
comes off being a team captain in Tennessee last year.
He can control your defense if he needs to. It's
a smart player to have involved. This is This is
not a bad move in my eyes. Now, granted, is
he the best linebacker you could have traded for. No,
(07:37):
that's why he only cost a fifth or sixth round pick,
whatever it was. I think there's some instincts in the
run game that he might have to he might have
to be addressed with with Matt Eberflus. But you know,
Ebraflus has done a really good job in developing linebackers
throughout his time. Now, Murray's been in the league for
four or five years. Now, you know how much development
quote unquote does he have left? Can he teach an
old dog new tricks? The guy is twenty six years
(08:00):
I think there is still still some development left in
his game. But he's a hard hitter, he's a thumper.
I like this move. I don't think he's a long
term starter here in Dallas, but I think he's a
guy that can give you more than enough flexibility for
Demarvey and Overshowing to come off of his injury, more
than enough flexibility. If Jack Sanborn might not be ready
to command a defense early on this is a guy
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you want to have involved. I mean, experience really pays
off in this league, and he's got it.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (08:26):
I totally agree with what Nick saying here. And you know,
to me, there's this group when they went into the
free agency process, we were talking about linebackers, were thinking about, Hey,
positions that maybe I know in the draft show positions
you might double dip. My linebacker surely was one of
those those areas that we were focusing on. But to
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go out and get a guy like Murray, and you know,
I'm gonna say this, the physicality that he plays with
I think is impressive, The toughness that he plays with.
You know, yeah, is he perfect in coverage? No, not
all the time. But when you start to talk about
playing run defense, and and and filling in the in
the hole, and and and getting to the outside and
playing with a little little range, a little link to it,
(09:09):
I think that you could have done far worse here.
So I'm with Nick on this one. I Uh, is
he is he a starter? Could he be a starter?
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (09:16):
He can absolutely be start. He's proven places where he's been.
He was a starter at the Chargers, he was a
starter at Tennessee, you know, we've seen what they did, uh,
you know last year, you know with with Eric Kendricks,
and you know, hopefully you get the same kind of
results that you get a guy that that comes in
in this physical and makes plays and and you know,
and and brings an element of toughness to your game.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
And with that, they added another linebacker and make mentioned
him Jack Sandborg. This was a one year deal from
the Bears. That's where he played. What are some of
the differences that you see there and the type of
player between the Well.
Speaker 8 (09:53):
And the Bears are the Bears have got a good
group of linebackers. I felt like you know that they
they were they were Sandborn. What's surprising to me is
he was less than a million dollar player and they
let him walk. They didn't tender him. So you know,
he was able to kind of you know, Dallas jumped
in there really really quick on it and was able
to get that done. You know, probably with a little
(10:14):
bit of influence from Matt Eberflus. But you watch this
guy play. Here's a guy that has a.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Real nose for the football.
Speaker 8 (10:20):
I mean, he's the tackles are there that it's rare
that you see linebackers that undercut blocks, and I mean
go dip underneath the block and then get back into
the play like Samborne is able to do. He played
as an outside linebacker, he could play an inside linebacker.
I think there's that element to him. I probably play
him on the inside more myself. But man, I'll tell
you what though. He is a guy that he's got
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a nose for the ball, he has a feeling for
how to play blocks, He's got linked he could get
off blocks. To me, you could have say it again,
you could have done far worse with you know, going on.
I think the Pro department here might have found a guy.
I'm if you play the happy face game and all that,
I would be happy. I would be smiling face on
this one. I think they did a pretty good job
of finding a guy.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
Yeah, before we move on to u Nick speaking of
how really messed up the game. But for Murray, what's
your rating?
Speaker 8 (11:09):
I tell you what, I think, I'm a happy face
happy face because they think of the physicality that he
plays with the toughness that he plays with. Both these
players or guys are happy face for me because you
know they were in on the Drake greenlawal nic will
tell you this. They were in on that green Law
made a decision to go elsewhere. They were trying their
best to make that and that would have been a
(11:30):
great signing right there, but they kind of pivoted rallied
and I think they did okay. And at these two
that they've done.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I'm going to give neutral for both.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
We'll see how they fare on the field, but I
think both of these editions are had the potential to
be really strong for that linebacking corps. They need that
depth and they bring experience along with it.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
And do you have a different perspective on Sanborn or what.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Yeah, for scond Born, I think it's it's certainly going
to help kind of transition this defense into the Eberflus era.
I mean you think back last year, I mean the
Cowboys only the two outside signings, and one of them
was Eric Kendricks. Mike Zimmer wanted to go get his guys.
He had this on field bridge, if you will, to
help usher in this new system during training camp and
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then throughout the season, have a guy that he can
trust to be the lead communicator. Now, Jack Sanborn doesn't
have the experience that Eric Hendricks had coming into Dallas, obviously,
but he's going to kind of serve that same purpose
in the sense that he already knows the system. He's
a great communicator, He's been a leader of a defense
before in an eber flu system. He's going to be
the guy that a lot of people come to with questions.
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And that was one of the questions I had for
him yesterday when he did a conference call with the media.
I was like, Okay, you know, a lot of guys
are going to come to you because you are the
one who knows it. You are the one who's been
inside of it for three years. And so he said,
it's about flying around, having an aggressive mindset and getting downhill.
But everybody has a job. He's really big into that
making sure that not only you know your job, you
know why you're doing your job, and by doing your job.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
What that leads to for other people.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
And he said, I'm willing to do anything to help
everyone else learn. At the end of the day, we're
in this together as one. There's going to be competition
in that linebacker room. But just talking to Jack Sanbourne yesterday,
I get the sense that he's going to be helping
everyone out in that linebacker room.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Well, it's like titing to see some of these changes
and what is actually going to look like once they
start training together and we go to training camp and
start seeing them, uh transform this defense into something different. Now,
staying on the defensive side of the ball, they also
signed Solomon Thomas, a defensive tackle who is coming from
the New York Jets. He played over there. What are
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your scouting report on this player?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Versatile?
Speaker 5 (13:38):
He's going to play in some different roles for you,
And yeah, we're just gonna come right back to the conversation.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
That's the conversation. He is versatile.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
He's a guy that probably factors in more so as
the backup three tech for Osa Digizua on rotational downs,
but I think he's also a guy that could play
some one tech on some passing downs because because he
can get into the backfield, he has experience with defensive
line coach Aaron Whitecott and going back to their time
with the Jets, and he can get to the quarterback
if asked to do so. He's a Kapel guy. So
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back in DFW, I I always love when that happens.
And really good dude, he's he's really active in the community.
If you look up a year from now and he's
this team's Walter Payton nominee, then I wouldn't be surprised
at all.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Yeah, he.
Speaker 8 (14:22):
Talked about when coach Whitecotton got the job that that
might be a possibility.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Because he did. He played very well.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
You know, we'll see what about the run defense stuff
and how that goes for him. I'm not totally I'm
not discouraging that at all. He got a lot out
of coach white Kott got a lot out of him
as a pass rusher. And I think Nick's absolutely right.
You play him at the three technique and let him
be the backup guy, let him play the one sum
in the nickel with him and os inside man, you
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get two pretty active guys right there. Last year, it
just didn't seem like that in the defensive tackle spot
that they had guys inside that were able to rotate
at that three. Give you some pass rush. This this
to me that I believe like this is an upgrade.
You got a guy that can rush the passers I've
mentioned you got to back up for Osa, and you've
got a guy that has some experience, and the and
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the and you got a coach here now that got
the absolute best at him. I think this is a
really good combination for them.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
I love everything you guys are saying so rated with
a little smiley face. Negas is your first smiley face.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I'm gonna say neutral, You're gonna You're gonna hate me
in this game.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
So you're going neutral with because a smiley face for
me would be going and getting Cooper cup last.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
You know what, I've been going and getting Stu fun.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
But as soon as I asked you about this guy, yeah,
you answered started answering with a smile on your face.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yeah. So yeah, I'm a happy guy. I just be smiling.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
You reacted differently than the other Yeah, I just I
just be smiling.
Speaker 8 (15:49):
I'm I will smile because the reasons I talked about,
because of the the three technique stuff, they just felt
like they didn't have somebody that could play behind Osa,
that you could really really rely on. So I give
them props. Trust me, I'm about to have a couple
of brownie faces.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
All right.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
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Speaker 7 (19:08):
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Speaker 6 (19:11):
So, because we still have a lot of guys to
cover here, the next one in the timeline of events
is Real mccuamum. He's another guy the hasband with the Cowboys. Obviously,
you guys are very familiar with him. Safety the Cowboys
end up giving him a new deal and he stays
here in Dallas. Thoughts on this move?
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Can I propose a question to you, Brian, go ahead?
Israel mcuamu Kayir Elam? One of them gets the start
on in week one? You can only pick one of
I know there's two up in spots, but there's only
one of them.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Let's say it's for.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Outside corner obviously, Yeah, who do you think is it?
Speaker 8 (19:46):
I think they would probably start Izzy there. Me personally,
I think I would start Elm. I just think that
I think that.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
To me that Elam.
Speaker 8 (19:55):
I think I think in training camp, we're gonna really
like the physicality that he plays with. And we'll see.
But I would say that they would is he is
he is, He's a good player for them. I mean,
he's done a good job you remember, I mean the
nickel that he the nickel job he did against Tampa
in a playoff game. You know that can't go unnoticed.
Right now, I think he's one of those guys that
are kind of trying to find a spot for him.
(20:16):
But I would, I would say they would probably start him.
But I think elm is going to that's a terrible
answer because I'm riding the fence on that, But I would.
I would think they would start Izzy in that opening game.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Kim mcwalmo would be, you're starting Nickel throughout the season?
Seventeen games?
Speaker 6 (20:32):
Is?
Speaker 5 (20:32):
I think there's some fans who want it to happen. Yeah,
I think it's realistic.
Speaker 8 (20:36):
Why am I thinking about guys that at Kansas State
and a guy at Louisville and a guy at you
know other places. I'm thinking about North Carolina, Hussey I'm
thinking about I'm thinking about Nichols that they could draft
that I know could play Nickel off the jump. And
now I talked about is he. I mean, you can't
discount what he did in that game. You can't.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
I don't know if for seventeen games I could go there?
Speaker 7 (20:58):
Yeah, what are you? What's your answer to your own question.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Yeah, I agree, because I don't think he can go
seventeen games throughout the season.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
Yeah, okay, what's the rating Neutrals eighth neutral?
Speaker 8 (21:11):
Okay, always, Yeah, I think I'm neutral on this one because,
like I said, my running back at my cornerboard's pretty deep.
I'd like to see them address this position with maybe
a couple of those guys.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
All right, well, Brian, you got the timeline right, because
the next guy is a running back over here. The
Cowboys got Miles Sanders, who's formerly has played in the.
Speaker 7 (21:33):
Past for the Eagles.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
I think that's where most people kind of recognize him
from during his timeline there. And again we've heard about
the changes at the running back room and what they're
trying to do here and build this year. What are
your thoughts on a player like this Miles Sanders.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
I'm going to I'm going to pair him with Javonte
Williams in this conversation just because I get idea. They
I think they kind of run, no pun intendent. I
think they run a lot in the sense, both of
these guys being veterans in the room that you bring in,
you're expected to use, expected to use a premium pick
at the running back position. Premium pick, meaning first couple
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of days in the draft, you're expected to draft a
running back. This is a really deep running back class,
and if you grab a guy in the third round,
you're probably gonna get a pretty talented guy. He's going
to be a young guy coming into this room with
Javonte Williams, who's a really good pass catcher and a
really good pass protector, and then Miles Sanders, who has
experience and can also get out of the backfield as well.
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So that's going to be immediate competition in that room
once they get to training camp. We talked to Javonte
Williams yesterday, the media did, and the expectation that has
been set for him by the coaches is be ready
to compete because there's going to be an open starting job,
ready ready to go in training camp. So it's not
going to be hey, we draft r J. Harvey, Hey,
this team drafts DJ Giddens or whatever in the third round,
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that guy is going to be the starter. It's going
to be, hey, that rookie is going to compete with
Javonte Williams and Miles Sanders for this starting position. If
you're asking me about Miles Sanders specifically, I think he's
comfortably third in that position, and we don't even have
a rookie to place in the mix right now. Just
because his time in Carolina was not good.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
You look at the.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Yards per carry, rush yards expected over average, I mean,
it was not It was not a good time in
Carolina for him. He got passed up by Chewba Hubbard.
As soon as Jonathan Brooks came off of his knee injury,
he was immediately a replace for Miles Sanders. So I
think I think Miles Sanders is going to be working
behind the eight ball a little bit, but having that
veteran experience in the running back room will certainly help well.
Speaker 6 (23:33):
Since and we can't talk about what's going to happen
in the future, we don't know who there might draft
at the running back position. But looking at what they
currently have at the moment versus what they used to have,
what are some of the similarities or differences in the
running style that the Cowboys previously had versus what these
two guys bring to the table.
Speaker 8 (23:52):
They got worse. They actually got worse. You know, if
you look at overall, and here's this is where this was.
This is the concerning thing to me is that they
went out and hired to code. The best thing they've
done for the running game so far is hire two coaches.
They haven't helped the running game at all, to be
honest with you, you know, And like I said, I
(24:13):
think Williams can catch the ball well. I think he
blocks very well. I think Miles Sanders is done, I
really really do. And you know, Ducevon we've seen Duce
Fond can't play special teams and that hurts his availability
on game day. And then Malik Davis is a guy
that's kind of just been here and had chances and
really hasn't capitalized on the chances. That room's a mess.
(24:34):
And you know, to me, I would have, honestly, I
would have I would have double dipped that position. I
think the draft is deepen up where you could have
got a guy, say hi enough, I'm not saying you
have to get a guy in the first round, but
if you got a guy in the second round and
a guy in a fifth round, I think Nick would
agree with me. This running back room, or this running
back draft stretch is pretty deep, you know, to me.
So you know, you talk about wanting to run the ball.
(24:57):
You show, but you make a commitment by the which
is that you hired. You didn't help yourself particularly well
with these two backs that you just signed. I think
that's still a big, big, red blinking light for this
football team.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
The two things I want to bring up.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
One, whenever they did sign Miles Sanders, you mentioned duce
Vaughan Brian. Yeah, that's that's a guy who this training
camp is probably the last opportunity for Ducefan. They're gonna
give him that training camp shot one hundred percent, but
he's going to have to prove that he's worthy of
a starting spot. And he's battled injury in each of
his first two camps. So maybe, you know, just staying
healthy might be the biggest thing for Ducewan, you know,
(25:32):
being able to show that he has something in the
receiving game. Who knows, maybe this Schottenheimer offense helps him
out a little bit more. But having two veterans in
the room expected to have a rookie in the room,
it's it's kind of spelling that that duce Vaughn's leash
is running up. The other thing I want to bring
up is them signing two veteran running backs. I'm afraid, Brian,
(25:52):
that we're going to be sitting in this room on
Day three of the draft.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, and there is.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Still not a running back on this team, which again
we've talked about. This running back class is deep. You
can get a guy in the fifth round who could compete, sure,
but I don't I don't know if you want to
bank on No.
Speaker 8 (26:07):
No, I mean, and I think you're right, but but please, don't,
you know, don't you know, pee on me and tell
me it's raining outside, you know, don't don't don't tell
me that. Don't tell me you're committed to running the
football and all that and not address that thing in
the first three rounds, you know, don't don't do that.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Neither of these guys are early down.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
No, not at all.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Either of these guys are the guy fifteen minutes, first quarter,
just play the game.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Hand it off to him. He's going to get you
eight years. Neither of these guys.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Are you go you know you you you swapped out.
Speaker 8 (26:34):
And maybe maybe the Rico daddle, maybe he overplayed his hand,
maybe he overplayed I don't, I don't know, I don't
know what happened with Rico Daddle maybe, you know, I
don't know if it's the Cowboys thought he was going
to get more money or Rico Daddle thought he was
going to get more money. But to me that when
that that that that was a mistake. I think on
both sides right there, you know, until somebody tells me different.
(26:55):
But like I said, don't tell me you're going to
be committed to running game and try and be better
at it and load up with what your go with
what you got right now, that is not going to
get it done.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Funny enough, I was.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
I flew up to the Northeast this past weekend and
I had a layover in Charlotte. So my first flight
was DFW to Charlotte, and first class on my flight
is ric O'dowdell and I caught him coming off the
plane and he just looked super excited to be back home.
He sounded super excited to be back home, So I
wonder how much that factored into it. At the end
of the day, he didn't have a ton of time,
but we caught it for maybe twenty seconds, and being
(27:28):
back in Charlotte it is a big deal for him.
He's like, Yeah, I'm from Ashville. I grew up, you know,
thirty minutes away. It's it's really good to be back.
So I you know, you factor that in, and you
factor that that room is already pretty crowded in Carolina.
I think the hometown thing was bigger for Rico Dawdle
than maybe what was realized. But coming back to this team,
Javonte Williams, I think could be a great running back
(27:52):
too that you almost get me to smile on Givanta
will you might almost. Yeah, I think it'd be a
phenomenal complimentary especially at this stage in his career. He's
still only twenty four years old. He's got experience, He's
shown that he's come back off that ACL injury that
he suffered in his second season. He's a guy that
could pass protect. He can get out of the backfield
and help you in the passing game.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Absolutely, but you can't. He's not an RB one, he's
an I.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
Agree, Okay, So I clearly, based on everything you said, Brian,
we get like a frown face, mad face of a
here even.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Round face there.
Speaker 8 (28:24):
Yeah, you know, and they're gonna have an opportunity and
if and it's going to be even more of a
frown face if Nick's right about that, they wait three
time though. Even though I think there's some running backs there,
I do. I think there's some fourth fifth running backs
there that I mean, I think I've studied twenty five
of them, and I'm they're all very capable players.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Well, hopefully we are. The running back story changes this year.
We'll see what happens after the draft and we'll discuss
once again this running back room and the guys that
hopefully somebody one or two at least draft it. We'll see,
we'll see what happens there. But let's take our for
our final break. When we come back, we'll continue going
(29:06):
down the list of guys signs so far.
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All right, let's move on, don't Fowler.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
He's a defensive end. You guys should be familiar with him.
He's been here before and now he comes back once
again to be here and join this defense. Where is
he at right now in his career? And are you
guys happy with this decision to bring him back?
Speaker 4 (32:14):
You know?
Speaker 5 (32:14):
And Bart, you're gonna get me a smile with this one.
For a couple of For a couple of reasons. One
the sense that they they went out and were aggressive
in getting another pass rusher opposite of Miles Miles Micah Parsons,
my goodness, once they realized that DeMarcus Larns was not
going to be back in the fold, so going and
getting a running mate for Micah on those passing downs,
(32:37):
and especially a violent athletic guy like Dante Fowler coming
off the season that he had in Washington. It's kind
of a career resurgence for him that he had in
DC ten and a half sacks. I thought he was
snubbed for the Pro Bowl. I thought he was a
guy that would have been a shoe in a couple
of force fumbles, fourteen tackles for loss, and this guy
he did a lot for the Commander's defense last year
and mostly rotational work, and so I think he's going
(33:00):
to have a starting opportunity here. You get me to
smile because of that. Secondly, you get me to smile
because they signed a contract more than six million dollars.
Granted it's six million dollar base, but it's worth up
to eight million dollars. This is the richest annual free
agent deal that they've signed in ten years. So Greg Hardy, Yes,
since Greg Hardy. So hopefully it pans out a little
bit better than that one. And Dante Fowler can bring
(33:22):
some pass rush to this team.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 7 (33:24):
I like this one too, And I'm even me smiling.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Yeah see, you know this.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Is smile this guy.
Speaker 8 (33:29):
If you go back and watch him play for the Commanders,
you know, he did a really fine job. I know
people have some questions about his ability to defend the run.
I thought he got better at that. There were some
times where you know, you watched him and blockers tried
to get up on him and he was able to
like to shed those guys to chase the ball. I
was I was happy to see that for him. He's
(33:49):
he's he's like I said, I think that here later
in his career, things are kind of going in the
right direction for him. And the pass rush of the sacks,
the ability to play in the twist game. You know,
you need somebody opposite Micah And I'll tell you what,
you got a guy that can. They can they can
create pressure and he can also get sacked. So, you know,
good for the team for forgetting that done. That that
(34:11):
that was a good get for them.
Speaker 7 (34:13):
All right.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
Next guy up is another guy that's coming up from
the feely Philadelphia Egel's coming up with a super Bowl.
But still this is the guy that a lot of
people have criticized as far as the fans like on
social media, because he doesn't have a ton of really
good experience on the record. He he's Perris Campbell wide
(34:38):
receiver thoughts on what he what him coming to the
team actually means for the wide receiver room.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
Yeah, originally from Akron, Ohio, went to Saint Vincent, Saint Mary,
went to House State. They they got Lebron James guys.
But no, I think it's just uh, it's it's veteran
experience to add to the room.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
I think this is more so competition for guys like
Ryan Flinoyd, j Brooks, and they want they want a
veteran that can kind of be in that mix. Think
of this as like a wide receiver three slash four
competition and Campbell's kind of in that mix. This does
not stop this team from getting a running back as
early as pick twelve receiver draft excuse me, receiver receiver
(35:17):
my bad, Yeah, receiver as early as pick twelve in
this draft.
Speaker 8 (35:20):
Yeah, practice is, as we all know, or long, and
there's a lot of running involved and you need a
lot of wide receivers to get through practice. And this
is one of those opportunities a veteran guy. You'll play
some preseason games, You'll have a veteran player out there.
You might have to be in a situation too where
you're trying to evaluate maybe you do draft a young
quarterback and he's going to have to play in those
(35:41):
preseason games. You want a veteran guy out there that
knows what he's doing. And so this is exactly what
this is.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
It.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Nick's right.
Speaker 8 (35:48):
It doesn't keep you from doing anything else in your
draft plans for wide receivers.
Speaker 6 (35:53):
Okay, I'm gonna wait rating real fast neutral sad.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Honestly, I thought even if you were trying to add
veteran experience to like the depth of that room, I
could have done better.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
But we'll see.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
Agree, We're gonna run through these guys a little quicker
because we still hopefully we can finish before the end
of the show. We got another defensive end, Peyton Turner.
Speaker 7 (36:20):
He signed. Okay, why I.
Speaker 8 (36:24):
Tell you what I think that with Peyton Turner is
that to me, I like Peyton Turner because I like
the length that he plays with, I like the range
he plays with. I think he plays the run very
very well. And I think there's a guy that you know,
he's kind of like what we call that five technique,
that head up end that could kind of two gap
look inside, look outside.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
But I like the way that this guy plays.
Speaker 8 (36:43):
The run, and I think when they run the ball
at him, he's very capable of getting off blocks and
making plays. He's not a pass rusher. He is not
a pass rusher at all. There's probably one or two
snaps where you could see him rush the passer and
you're like, Okay, I get it, but he is not.
He's a much better run player. But I do like
the fact that they got a guy that could play
on the edge. That kind of takes over the role
(37:05):
of what Golston did for you.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
You just hope he can stay healthy, and that's been
the big thing in his career. In his first three
seasons he only played fifteen games, missed a lot of time,
but last year he played sixteen games for the Saints
and mostly rotational work. Former first round pick coming out
of Houston was a really good run defender for the
Cougars in his college time. Now back in the lone
(37:30):
Star State. So I'll tell you what, there is a
lot of optimism about Peyton Turner talking to people in
this building.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
So we'll see how that manifests. How are you feeling neutral.
Speaker 8 (37:41):
Thank you, I'll go smiley because I think he brings
something to play a run defense.
Speaker 6 (37:46):
Yeah yeah, okay, next one up, we have Robert Jones.
He's an offensive lineman that is coming from the Dolphins.
He signs here and this is a topic that we've
talked about. While we know that the old line still
needs work there, what does it bring to the table
and how.
Speaker 7 (38:02):
Is he right now in his career.
Speaker 5 (38:05):
We talked to him yesterday and it kind of gave
me a little bit of a different perspective of what
I had going into that call, if you will. He
started seventeen games for the Dolphins last year and it
was a super valuable experience for him. Didn't do particularly well.
He grated out as one of the worst guards in
the NFL. Actually that played throughout the season. But prior
(38:26):
to that year, thirteen games of starting experience mostly at
left guard and or excuse me, mostly at right guard.
Flips to left guard for the Dolphins last year. He
said his most natural position on that call yesterday, he
said his most natural position is right guard. So you
know he's going to be competing for that right guard
(38:48):
spot with brock Hoffman, TJ.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
Bass.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
You would expect a draft pick to be in the
middle of all that do they factor Cooper b b
into that competition too, But I think I'm gonna I'm
gonna go new until I see what he looks like
at right guard at training camp.
Speaker 8 (39:02):
Neutral all the way here, and it might be a
sad face because he might not be better than what
Hoppin and.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Others TJ. Bass, So I'm going to keep it neutral
on that well.
Speaker 6 (39:14):
And then they also gave another deal for the Koda.
Shepley and a lot of guys on social media. I
guess they didn't realize he was like, he's been here
in Dallas, so they decided to keep him here in Dallas.
He's a guy that hasn't done a whole lot. But
I mean, is he just adding depth here at the position?
Speaker 8 (39:32):
I think it's a guy's familiarity. I can't sit there
and act like that. I know the code of Shepley's
game is what it's really really all about. But you
know the fact that he has been here I believe
a couple of years now, so you know, it's one
of those things where you got to find a way
to show up. And they obviously feel good enough about
him that he's made some progress. We'll see with a
(39:53):
new line coach. How that works for him?
Speaker 5 (39:55):
Yeah, special teams guy. Mostly in his last two years,
he's been activated for seven games. I don't think this
factors into the offensive line, not at all.
Speaker 6 (40:04):
Neutral face neutral, Yeah, neutral, Okay, next one up? Oh yeah,
I think that's it, right? Am I missing anybody else?
Speaker 5 (40:13):
Let's see. Yeah, we've gone through. We've gone through all
of them.
Speaker 7 (40:17):
We've gone through everybody.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
Okay, so up to this point and what the Cowboys
have done. So now you're gonna give me your kind
of overall overview based on all your faces, your your.
Speaker 7 (40:30):
Snake is just neutral.
Speaker 6 (40:32):
But what is your overall rating of what the Cowboys
have currently done in this free agency this year? Personally,
I think it's been pretty differently different than past previous
years because you've had more movement happening, at least from
guys that they've signed from the outside and not just
signing their own they signed their own, but also brought
(40:52):
some other people from the outside. Brian, I'll start with you,
what's your overall rating for what they've done this year?
Speaker 8 (41:00):
Critical of this front office, and I've been super critical
because I don't believe that they do this. Twenty four
to seven like they want us to believe. Well, I'm
gonna give um some credit here. They actually did do
some twenty four to seven work here. They figured out
that it's going to be about the draft, it's going
to be about trading, and it's going to be about
signing free agents. Well, see if the fact that they
were able to get some guys, I think they maybe
upgraded a couple spots. I think they probably went neutral
(41:22):
in a couple spots and maybe not as good as
some others. But they went out. They did this. They
had to do this. They couldn't for the second year
let depth completely walk out of this building, and they
made sure of that. So they tried to help themselves
that way. I don't think this does anything to limit
what they're going to do in the draft. I think
everything is still on board for them to pick any
player that they feel like is good enough for the
(41:43):
be on this football team. But I will give them credit.
You did it, you did trades, you did free agency,
and now let's see a draft.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
So good for you.
Speaker 5 (41:52):
I think the only position that I think there's a
little bit of urgency that you can take away coming
out of free agency going into the draft is probably
linebacker just because you did, I'd run yeah, yeah, And yeah,
there's there's some urgency that's taken off there, but you
still need you could I guess more so, I'm saying
if you took a linebacker in the first two days, yeah,
that would be a little bit more surprising to me
than if you took a running back.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
Gotcha.
Speaker 5 (42:12):
But yeah, they they went out and got bodies, and
looking back to last season, they need bodies, and uh,
that certainly helps. I would have liked to see them
land an offensive weapon for for Dak Prescott, for you know,
whatever this rookie running back is gonna look like. Obviously
for Ceedee Lamb as well, just to kind of be
that running mate with him. I would like for there
(42:33):
to be a second fiddle. But you know, that's that's
what the draft is also for. But you'd be putting
a lot of pressure on a rookie to to be
able to to to be that. But I would have
maybe liked to have seen that in free agency. That's
the one thing that I'd I'd come away with still desiring.
But overall, they went out and got bodies and that's
what they needed.
Speaker 8 (42:52):
At the end of the If the price comes down
for Keenan Allen, would you consider that one for a
veteran receiver.
Speaker 5 (42:57):
It kind of gives me the same vibes as Brandon
Cooks in the sense that how is he in the
sense that he's he's older, Yeah, and he's been banged
up in his time in Chicago. Now, granted, played with Eberflus,
so there's some experience there. Obviously Ebraflus on the defensi
side of the balls, it's a little bit different.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
But.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
You'd get me neutral on that for the spirit of
the conversation.
Speaker 7 (43:20):
Thirty two years old, that's not all.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Yeah, yeah, but he's got a lot of experience. He's
got a lot of experience. That's like fifty eight in NFL.
Speaker 6 (43:32):
Okay, Well, with that, we end the show. Thank you
so much. We should be back next week. Derek should
be back in the office as well, and we'll keep
talking about whatever other moves happen here and before we
get there, I know soon, and it's exciting. We you
guys can visit the website. A lot of these guys
already talked to the media, so you can get an
(43:52):
inside look of kind of how they speak or you know,
their thoughts coming into the Star and starting their new
career here in Dallas. Thank you so much, Brian, Brian
Nick as well. This has been the Break on dallascowboys
dot Com Slash Radio.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
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