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talk about just defense, just defense versus the Cowboys offense today.
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I real quick, just want to say happy birthday to
my lovely wife.
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It is her birthday.
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To day, joys herthday and still listen to the show.
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Oh no, no, I'm like this show has has meant
a lot for our family, and my wife just don't.
But my mom does. My mom listens to every ye,
Mom's always in. Mom will never not listen. But my wife,
she got other things going on.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
She's working. Let's just put it like that he's working anyway. Uh,
let's talk. Let's talk about the injury list. This injury
list just exploded yesterday.
Speaker 7 (01:56):
It did a lot of stuff on there that that
just kind of just popped up on everyone. I got
some indications on a couple of these things earlier in
the week, but man, to see them all in one list,
it was very shocking.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Uh, let's go through the list. Let's talk about some
of these.
Speaker 7 (02:13):
Obviously, we know about Tyler Booker, we know about Cedee Lamb.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I did see though yesterday.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
Well I saw yesterday there was some footage coming out
of practice where CD was out of his boot. Yeah,
both of them, Yeah, I think said both are still
through out of the boot. Yes, so that's actually positive
for both of them to be moving along. They haven't
been placed on IR, so that's those are positive things. Now,
let's talk about Tyler Guiden and Moone Cooker and Miles Sanders.
Those are three guys that got injured in the game,
(02:42):
and we knew about those injuries.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
What do we know at this point about the three?
Speaker 9 (02:46):
Yeah, the thing with with Geydon, Uh now excuse me, uh,
the one that Smith did you say Smith.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I didn't. We're gonna get Smith in a second.
Speaker 9 (02:54):
The one with Guiding and so yeah, you're once again
that they d m P as we talked about yesterday,
They're gonna monitor again another day and see what happens
with that. So as we get through today and then
Friday will be the indicator. But they feel like they're
gonna need one more day on both of those and
then they'll be able to make that determination after today
when they get done with practice whether they're going to
(03:15):
be available for this game this weekend. My my, My
early indications are though that this is going to be
close on It's gonna be close on Guiden, but we'll see.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
We'll stay with with Hooker, but.
Speaker 9 (03:28):
Right now they're gonna need at least today to kind
of figure out what they're gonna do tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (03:32):
So both Hooker and Guiden are touching gold, touching out. Yeah,
what are you hearing about Miles Sanders?
Speaker 9 (03:39):
Miles Sanders is another one that's kind of a touch
and go situation with them. So this might be the
week that you actually see uh Blue get an opportunity
to play. They're gonna they're monitoring that situation today with
how he practices, and then going forward, what they're gonna
be able to do with Sanders and Sanders is that
one's looking a little bit touching Oh right now too, all.
Speaker 7 (04:01):
Right, these are the two that popped up that I
think surprised most folks. Tyler Smith jumped onto the injury
report with a knee injury. He did not practice. Cavante
Turpin uh with a foot injury? He practice? What are
we hearing about those two? And and the amount of
time that maybe they might have to miss.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yeah, they don't know about the thing.
Speaker 9 (04:19):
They don't know yet about the time that that that
Turpin could miss. I mean they and I asked like, hey,
is this game several games a couple of games, and
they go, we don't know that yet, but they think
it's a They think it's.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
A serious injury.
Speaker 9 (04:32):
You know, foot sprains are serious, so they're they're looking
at that right now, but they don't have a gauge
on exactly how long that will be. I was told
on the the Tyler Smith one, this is the normal
that you know, he's dealing with the tendonitis in his
knee and so this is the same thing he's been
dealing with before. It's just they have to continue to
monitor this. I was told, Hey, this is something that
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is not new. This is something remember when he was
missing early in the season. He was missing practice and
things like that, and there were some questions about him.
But this is the same need. It's it's just something
that they're going to have to kind of work through
the whole entire season.
Speaker 7 (05:08):
They say, So, how does that work when you when
you have an injury like that. Is it one that
obviously they'll manage it throughout the year. Is it one
that then you get to the off season and there's
a surgery you have to have.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Is it one that you.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
Gets it off season you just have to sit and
wait and let it kind of heal and just right
now in the season, you don't have time to let
it heal, and that's why you can manage it.
Speaker 9 (05:26):
Yeah, you don't have time, and so it's it's just
missing practices.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
And stuff like that.
Speaker 7 (05:30):
But it's not a long term injury. Doesn't from the
standpoint it's like the future years. It's more just he's
gonna need time. Right now, you don't have time.
Speaker 9 (05:37):
I asked the question. I'm like, hey, is this one
of those things that's something new? And then like, no, no, no,
we knew about this injury. This is something we've been
dealing with. We just put them on the report.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Okay, now come on.
Speaker 10 (05:47):
Why can we Oh no, you're about to say the
next one. I'm like, oh my gosh, why can't we
just I was gonna say I'd be happy and enjoy
It hasn't been an enjoyable season so far, but at
least on the offense. We've been talking about the O
line and Dyk and the running game, and it's just
the hits keep coming on the O line, which is
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the one area that you want to just try to
keep consistent, and now it's just one thing after the other.
Speaker 8 (06:16):
Yeah, and go ahead, mention the next one.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Well before we even go to Turpin.
Speaker 7 (06:20):
I think if you look at the offensive line, the
interesting part is that the Cowboys have actually, in my opinion,
done a pretty good job with bass and with with
Hoffmann playing.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
In start in place. So they're two starters who are
already out.
Speaker 7 (06:34):
My question just becomes how capable are they of continuing
to take kids. Let's say now Guidan is out, and
then let's say maybe Tyler is out. Now, at what
point does it become just too much?
Speaker 8 (06:46):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Sustain big change.
Speaker 7 (06:49):
Yeah, I mean credit to them that they have the
good depth they have so far, but how much depth
do they have?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Right?
Speaker 9 (06:55):
It's now you're in the situation with Nate Thomas potentially
having to play, you know, steal, so you're probably looking
at I think that Smith is going to play. I
think this is something that it's just every week we're
going to see him on the injury report, likely until
they get maybe to the bye week and you have
a game where you could just not play and rest.
(07:15):
So yeah, if if I think the worst case scenario
is it would be Thomas at left tackle, Smith at
left guard, Hopping at center, Bascett right guard, and then
steal at right tackle. Now behind that then if if
you have more injuries, then here we go again.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
You know.
Speaker 9 (07:36):
That's that's the things that you have to kind of
be a little bit concerned about. The depth behind the
depth is always going to.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Be a problem, right, yeah, because there's a reason why
they're the depth.
Speaker 7 (07:46):
Behind the depth right right, right right, So so far
if you were if you were looking at it, do
you think that, uh, do you think that, like whatever
you have, Let's say Nate has to go out there
and play, yea, we would like what he's done when
he's had to go out.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
There at all.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Right, it's not a problem.
Speaker 7 (08:01):
So you really don't think you take it as long
as Tyler can play, you feel pretty good about what
you said it out right.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I know you absolutely do. I mean, from what you've
seen so far, so good.
Speaker 9 (08:09):
Uh, you know, the way they were able to match up,
and you know, we'll get into the Jets and the
you know, some of the issues that they have on
their defensive line, it's not injury related. It's just they
have not created a bunch of pass rush, you know,
and they've got some guys that can they can rush
the passer, but a little bit similar to what Dallas
has done. When when they get pressure, they've they've done
a good job. It's when they don't get pressure that
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teams have taken advantage. But you know, if they have
to go, you know, like I say, it's it's it's
just the depth behind the depth that's the biggest issue.
If if, in fact, I could say, I think Smith
is going to play in this football game.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
But but but Thomas.
Speaker 9 (08:45):
If you got to remember, Nate Thomas was a guy
that you know, Philadelphia week we were having these conversations
and we were saying, oh, well, Nate Thomas, should we
start him or do you bring Geydon? And you know,
it was kind of fifty to fifty and they got
to the point where even asked Steven Joe's a question, uh,
you know, in like week two, and he said, listen,
you know, Nate Thomas is ready and he's pushing, and
(09:08):
those guys have got to you know, the guys ahead
of him have got to step up the games and
stuff like that. And what happened the other day we
saw Nate Thomas go in the game for Steel and
Steel was completely healthy. So they're there and it's something
that Schottenheimer was really not interested in doing. But you
know they want to make sure that Nate Thomas is
ready for these times.
Speaker 10 (09:26):
Well, I can't wait for you to give us some
good analysis and good positivity, some.
Speaker 8 (09:31):
Good news about this just defensive.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Line, desper team theory, desper team theory and all that.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
Let's let's talk a little bit about Turpin just because
it's my man. Well, let me say it's it's my
belief last week that the reason why the offense functioned
the way that it did absent Ceedee Lamb was about
Cavante Turpin. I agree Turpin still provides, Agree that X factor,
that that guy that the defense has to really be
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worried about without him out there. How comfortable do you
feel with Pickings being your wide receiver one? And then
you've got Jalen Toldard who had a night a really
nice catch last week, great catch who Ryan f Illinois
had a great catch last week in a situation.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
They played very well, right as a group.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
When they all have to slide up, those two guys
have to slide up and become your wide receiver two
and your wide receiver three, and you lose the juice
of somebody like Cavante Turpin, how comfortable do you feel
that this offense can still operate?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Go for it?
Speaker 10 (10:31):
AG, Well, this news was very unfortunate because when we
got here after that game and we talked about the game,
and I think it was yesterday or the day before,
we were talking about come on to terping and everything
that he Oh, it was a question you sent that
in Brian when you were out if he was a
gadget player still or is he now a reliable player
(10:52):
at the wide receiver where you have to use him more?
And I was like, okay, well, the way he's playing,
why not utilize him more? And some of the concerns
you have about him was okay, his size can hear
last in this league, you know, playing so many snaps
week to week And I'm not sure do you guys
know exactly when the injury happened or.
Speaker 9 (11:15):
Do I think he Like I said, I was going
to go back and look at this and I might
do it at the break, but I thought it was
later in the game he got tackled along the sidelines
and he had a little issue with it.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Then I didn't think anything of it at the time.
Speaker 8 (11:27):
I would imagine it happened at some point late in
the game. I don't think.
Speaker 9 (11:30):
Anything that's the same thing. It happened to a Booker,
you know, a late game, got rolled up on with
two minutes to go in the game.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
But yeah, I'll go back.
Speaker 10 (11:39):
And but going back to that, we saw we started
seeing how much they've been using him on offense and
how much he just kind of it brings a different
type of energy boost to the offense. And now you
take that away, Plus you're not you're still not having
CD in there. Now you're having to rely and again
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these other players, yes they're good, but you're missing that
extra spark in there to help you get moving and
keep defenses guessing. So it's gonna be a big change
not having him in there. And I think it does
lose that type of momentum that they started building on
this offense.
Speaker 9 (12:20):
This is what this is, how valuable valuable he is.
It takes two people to replace Ceede Lamb. And I
say it this way, You've got You've got Pickings does
a certain thing. He could bring a level of Ceedee
Lamb to down the field to catch the spectacular make plays.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
But he's not a move around guy. You don't move in.
Speaker 9 (12:43):
He stays generally in a spot. He stays either right
or left. He's not a guy that goes in the slot.
He doesn't go in, he doesn't play. He doesn't always
go on on the outside to uh or he will
play on the outside, but it's not always right and left.
Ceedee Lamb is a right left slot player. So what
they have to do is to make up for that.
That's why they had success. They used They used Turpin
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as their slot player and they use him on the outside.
So he combined with what Pickens skill set is kind
of gets you what you have in ced Lamb. So
you don't miss a beat though with your your top
receiver that way, taking him out of this now takes
the element. Now you're going to have to replace that
that ced Lamb again. Who is going to be the
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guy that steps up with Pickens, that gives you the
that gives you that level of where you get with
ced Lamb. So this is this is a this is
a significant injury for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
And to that point, Brian somebody with his skill set
becomes even more dangerous when you're moving them around because
now defenses are having to adapt to He's not gonna
stay in the same spot. That's he's going to get
to the line of screaming and he's gonna move. And
now the defense has to morph to be able to
count for his speed wherever he goes. And so I
think that's the part that it's not just about him
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as a receiver. It's about the skill set that he has.
It's about the speed that he has, the elusiveness that
he has. Defenses have to account for that no matter
where he is on the field.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
You take that away.
Speaker 7 (14:13):
I just think it changes how defenses can play this
this this this Cowboys receiver group.
Speaker 9 (14:18):
It's it's it's tough because he's the one that's put
in motion the most of all the Cowboy receivers. He's
the one whose motion numbers are the highest of any
after a game, and he does a lot of different things.
But it also hurts you in the return game. You know,
you look at the situation. You mean, look what he
did in the in the game the other day, and
in no remember where he might have got hurt was
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the tackle they ran, they ran, They had a second
kickoff return he got went up to the forty five
and then they had a holding penalty that was and I'll.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Look this up.
Speaker 9 (14:48):
And then he got tackled again, and then they got
the ball about the forty yard line again, and then
they got a they got a holding penalty.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
That brought the ball back.
Speaker 9 (14:56):
So I think that's he might have got hurt on
that second you know, kickoff return that he had they
got tackled along the silence. But yeah, it kills your
slot game, and it kills your ability to return punts
and return kicks.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
So I'm gonna ask you guys this question, who steps up? No, well,
that's a whole different conversation. But if the Cowboys at
some point have to make the decision that, because of
his size, you just can't play him as much as
they really want to play him, and you had to
make a decision, not to say they're gonna have to
make this decision, but if you had to make the
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decision whether you use him as a returner or as
a wide receiver, which is more valuable.
Speaker 9 (15:36):
Derek, I'm gonna answer this question as truthfully as I can. Right,
you need him as a receiver because my defense can't
stop to make people punt. You know, I have to,
you know, And yeah, the kickoff return aspect of it
is because yeah, teams aren't been scoring on you. You
have been giving up points. You know, the Giants scored
a massive number on you, and so did the Packers.
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So yeah, you are getting the opportunity for kickoff return
when we saw him bring the ball back to midfield
and just in the blink of an eye. But in reality, though,
as long as Lamb's not playing, I need him to
play receiver is what I need to do. And he's
a valuable special teams players, a Pro Bowl special teams player,
but I'm getting people to punt. I haven't been able
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to use him as a punt retur. My defense has
just not done a very good job even of even
doing that. So I've gotta use him as a receiver well.
Speaker 8 (16:26):
And also that's where it comes.
Speaker 10 (16:29):
It becomes difficult to really make those those decisions of
managing players based on okay, well they have this size,
and based on things that could potentially happen.
Speaker 8 (16:39):
But you can't predict the future. But I've always heard
if you have good players, you play them.
Speaker 10 (16:45):
You cannot not play them just because, oh they might
get injured.
Speaker 8 (16:50):
If he is not complaining and saying Hey, you know,
I'm dying out there. I'm out of.
Speaker 10 (16:55):
Bread, Like, give me a quick break. If he's not
doing that, keep playing him. You can just bubble wrap
people just in case. And he's too valuable. He's too
valuable and too skilled not to have him out there
as much as they've been using himself.
Speaker 9 (17:12):
I think I think a lot of it has to
do with the guys behind him, though, too. Who's stepping
the you stepping up? I mean last week you did
you got Tolbert played at a nice level.
Speaker 8 (17:23):
Mingo.
Speaker 9 (17:23):
Yeah, Mingo is starting to practice on a limited basis.
You know that could be You have to be very
mindful of these elevations, and when you do it, you
have to be almost strategic about it. You know, you
just can't say, Okay, bring the guy back, bringing back guy,
but you know, because there's some ramplications that happened with that.
So yeah, this is this is now about what's gonna
happen with Flinoy, What's gonna happen with Mingo, what's gonna
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happen with you know, with with Tolbert, all these guys.
I mean, they're gonna have to find ways to make
up for a loss here yeah.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
I think the challenge there though, is that none of
them have the kind of juice none that Cat Turpin has.
And I think that's the part that I'm most concerned about,
is where you're gonna get your juice, where you're gonna
get that speed. And if you don't have speed out
there at some part of you, in some part of
your offense, then defenses can play you very, very differently.
It makes it everything becomes a lot easier when you
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don't have to deal with speed. And I shouldn't say
like that because there's some guys that can run. It
ain't Cabanti Turpent type speed. And so I think that's
the difference maker, and that's what I think the Cowboys
would lose if they don't have him on the field.
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break down this New York Jet defense for us.
Speaker 9 (21:26):
Yeah, I think there's really four guys you're going to
kind of have to think about in this one.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
And you know, the the.
Speaker 9 (21:31):
Jets have really they've had their moments where they've they
just have not been very good. And when they've when
they've struggled extremely what they're tackling, they they've had a
really a last game against the Dolphins, it was really
very clear, Uh, that they were that they were struggling.
It matters the linebackers, the safeties. I mean it's been
(21:51):
a corners that they've had some problems. And what happens
is when you watch them play, they're predominantly are very
aggressive defense. Because you of Aaron Glenn and you think
about the way that he played at Detroit, and you
know they play, they play a ton of man coverage.
They also have a guy they'll travel with you, and
that's Sauce Gardner. And and you know he last year
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he wasn't so much a traveler. But now with like
I mentioned, with Aaron Glenn and this crew that you know,
opening opening a day against Seattle against six seeing the Steelers,
you know he was with Madcalf ninety percent of the time.
In Tampa Bay, he was with there guys sixty percent
of the time. When you start to talk about how
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you know they and and and Aaron Glenn, I think
it's only going to get more now that you have
Cede Lamb in this game. Excuse me, Uh, George Pickens
in this game. Uh, this could be a game where
all of a sudden that they determine that George Pickens
could be the biggest weapon.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
And now you.
Speaker 9 (22:47):
Travel sauce with him, so you'll see him. He wears
number one. He's very difficult to get away from. He's
a very sticky player. He takes a lot of pride
in how he plays that way. He could be very physical.
He's not afraid to mix things up. He's the type
of guy you love to have on your team because
you can do a lot of things with him. I
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wouldn't be surprised if, in fact that the Jets say, Okay,
your best receiver, especially if there's no turpin in this game,
your best receiver is Pickens, and now we're going to
travel him with and see how that goes for the Jets.
And then but there's a there's a price for that,
because on the other side, Brandon Stevens has been just
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getting worked. And when you watch him, he wears number
twenty one in quarterbacks number huh.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Yeah, quarterbacks exactly.
Speaker 9 (23:36):
Quarterbacks when they have targeted him have have had damn
near a perfect quarterback rating.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Is what's happened.
Speaker 9 (23:44):
So yeah, so through four games, through four games, yeah, yeah,
so he is. He has been. It has been a
real real issue. Like I say, he will he will play. You'll,
like I say, you'll see Gardner either play left or right,
and then what happens Stevens goes with the other receiver
and so then he's kind of left in that in
that mode. And people teams have stayed away from Sauce Gardner.
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There's reasons why. I mean they just he he that
just the way I described him. He's that type of player.
But on the other side, yeah, Brandon Stevens has had
his share of proms. Now, you know, can you win
teams in the first four weeks have been able to
win against Stevens. You know, can you set things up
to maybe where can you put and we we talked
(24:29):
about it earlier with uh. You know, with Pickens, he
doesn't move a whole lot. Remember when you have Lamb,
which you could do with Lamb you can play him
left or right and you could also put him the
slot to get away from that type of coverage. Well
if Pickens, Pickens just doesn't go in the slot. Well
this is so Now this is a game where it's
going to have to be. If it's again no Turpin,
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then how's Tolbert, how's uh, you know, how how are
they going to Flinoy. How are they going to play
and they're going to have to play at a pretty
pretty high level. Now, this team, I mentioned earlier that
they rushed the passer in a way where their their
pressure generally comes from really one guy at will McDonald
and he wears number nine. When you watch him play
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the sacks he had, he was really really good against
Pittsburgh and then they then they've also played Buffalo and
then Tampa Bay. He had a nice game rushing against Tampa.
He blocked a field goal that and returned it. You know,
he's a He's a quality player. He's kind of a
thin built guy, but he's going to come flying off
the edge. So you'll see him playing both on the
(25:33):
right side and the left side. They kind of move
him around trying to kind of figure out where the
best matchup for him is. But he is the guy
you're going to have to be concerned about. Quinn Williams,
the defensive tackle, would be the next guy I think you.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Really need to know about.
Speaker 9 (25:47):
He's a guy that did He's from last year he
wasn't so much a pressure player, which was funny. He
now in this scheme with Aaron Glenn, He's done a
much better job of forcing pressures, controlling in the middle.
He could be a hard guy to block one on one.
This team has struggled with though. When you watch them play,
is they're struggling in the running game because they'll take
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themselves out of positions. There'll be a lot of times
where all of a sudden, snap the ball, they'll slant
and then they're out of position and they don't recover,
they'll miss a tackle, then it's a big play. You
can watch ten plus runs against these guys. They did
a great job against the Steelers Notepenny Day, and you're thinking, like, whoa,
you know, Steelers didn't have a run over ten yards,
They didn't have a they were average, like right at
(26:31):
three yards of carry. But since then, some teams have
been able to kind of move the ball on them
a little bit running. But I think a lot of
it is kind of a self inflicted with their movement
and then they don't react very well once the movement,
they go one way, take themselves out of play, and
then the ball is passed them that way. So Dallas
might have an opportunity to run the ball against these
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guys again, can you take advantage Williams has done a
great job of taking the ball, reading the blocks and
then making the cuts. That's something you're going to have
to do this football game as well to to kind
of to kind of get that done. So attack Brandon
Stevens the corner number twenty one. Be ready for Sauce Garden.
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You're walking with Pickens or traveling with Pickens, got to
make sure you find them.
Speaker 10 (27:15):
Well that's uh, we got a botch here in the
in the chat like yeah, like a true YouTuber.
Speaker 8 (27:22):
He's in here in the chat.
Speaker 10 (27:24):
He said, tell Brian that Sauce travels because the other
corner of DJ Reid is gone, and that Pickens has
filmed from last year whooping Sauce Ye, So even.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
Having him travel with him, there's there's there's reality. I
me he can he can handle it, thickets cap.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 9 (27:41):
I can say I didn't go back to watching the
Pittsburgh last year film with this, but I did watch
Pittsburgh this year which is opening day. But yeah, that's
great watch you. I appreciate you doing that. Safe travels
to you, man. Uh, but yeah, this to me that
if you're gonna throw the ball, it's gonna be on
It's gonna be on this this corner.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Stevens.
Speaker 9 (27:58):
I think that Andre Cisco, who they signed from Jacksonville
as a safety, I think there's gonna be some opportunities
in the middle of the field. Teams have run some
crossers and stuff where the safeties have had to pick up.
They do play a lot of man coverage, they they
but they've allowed the second most yards allowed this season,
(28:19):
playing the most, playing a ton of that man coverage
and they're gonna stay in it. So the completion percentage
is really really high against these guys too, So, but
it's gonna be about.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Pressure, you know.
Speaker 9 (28:29):
Can they find a way with will McDonald to get
pressure Jermaine Johnson, you know those guys are and then
also with Quinn Williams. But that's kind of where this
defense is at right now, is that they've got some
really good players. They just really haven't put it all together.
Speaker 7 (28:45):
Yet looking at what they've done. You mentioned the run
defense against the Bills in Week two, they gave up
two hundred and twenty four yards on the ground.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
They were really bad.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
Yeah, against the Bucks, they gave up one hundred and
twenty two. Against Miami, they gave up one hundred and
twenty three. When you think stylistically and schematically how the
Cowboys like to run the ball. They've had a good
running game I think so far this season. I don't
think they've had a game yet where they've relied on
the run. When you think about again, schematically what Dallas
likes to do and schematically what these other teams have
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had some success like to do, how well do you
think this matches up as a game where the Cowboys
could possibly lean heavily on the run.
Speaker 9 (29:23):
They could, They could absolutely lean heavily on it, though
I do worry, Like I say, if we'll see with
with no Guidon, I think that might help you a
little bit more because I think Thomas has a little
bit more power if Geyiton were to not play in
this particular game. You know, I think that, you know,
it's going to be about Dallas has had the ability.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
They've done some.
Speaker 9 (29:42):
Really good things you mentioned scheme wise running the ball,
but they've had Hunter Lipkey at times has missed some
blocks you know the other day. You know, with they're
still getting a lot of good workout of span Forward
and what he's been able to do at the point
of attack. I you know, with McDonell and then and
then Johnson, I lean on these guys. These are like
these it's kind of like what you see with the Giants,
(30:03):
those those tall, long pass rushers want to get up
the field. I think that, you know, Dallas can hammer
on these guys a little bit that way. And Williams
has done a really good job. Wherever the hole has been,
they've done a really good job of his He's found
that hole and been able to attack it. He's he's
not dancing around. He's just going to go. He's gonna
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get his four and a half yards five yards, get
back for the next play. And that's where I think
that you have to The Jets have had some problems
in the game against Buffalo, they had problems with tackling.
I mentioned in the Dolphin games tackling. They get backs
that all of a sudden, they're kind of bouncing through
there and the next thing you know, it's you know,
they don't get a tackled and it's an even larger play.
(30:46):
So you just got to kind of I think Williams
can have some success scheme wise. We've talked, we've seen
the polls and things like that. Which you have to
worry about with I mentioned earlier with this jet Stevens
is they'll they'll move, they'll take the front and they're
trying to move it to where they'll take a risk,
and like they'll slant it strong, and it's run them
(31:06):
out of some plays. It's run them out of some ties.
All of a sudden, they're all slanted and now the
ball's going the other way, and now everybody's out of
position and they've the one thing the stewards did to
him pretty good was take them one way and then
take the ball back the other way. It wasn't running
the ball that way, but throwing the ball. We've seen
Dallas with the waggles of boots. It just shows you
how how much they want to try and get after
(31:29):
the ball. And so they're gonna they're gonna gamble that way,
and you know in this game they might catch a
couple of times, so they slant right into what you're
doing and then be able to make those plays. But
I think if Dallas stays after this, we've seen some
teams the last three weeks have some success running the
ball against these guys.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
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When we come back, I want to talk about Jayden
Blue and maybe is this the week that, regardless of
what happens with Miles Sanders, is this the week where
maybe the Dallas Cowboys need to figure out how to
make him active? Because speaking of that juice, maybe he
gives you some of that juice Thatt Cavante Turpin would
have provided in the event he's going to miss the game.
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We are in the final segment of The Break black
Ness WBC Mortgage Studios. At the start, we got about
nine minutes left on the show. Let's talk about Jaden Blue.
As I mentioned earlier, my BI is concerned if Turpin
can't play is who will give the Cowboys offense the
speed that it needs in order to make it dynamic.
Jayden Blue is a guy that has some speed. He
has not been active through the first four weeks of
(35:13):
the season. Is this the week that it should happen?
And how much does he help this offense if it does?
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Gives an answer A g.
Speaker 10 (35:22):
I'm reading all the comments here, people asking for Jaden
Blue to get in there, and we were talking about it,
right and during the preak week he better. Ye, there's
no other option. I think.
Speaker 8 (35:36):
What week five now? Correct? Week five?
Speaker 5 (35:40):
That shoot, it is crazy.
Speaker 10 (35:44):
But what we've heard, let me say this nicely, what
we've heard about him is that maybe he's not kind
of up to speed on some of the things that
need to happen on the offense when you're talking about
the different plays and you know, knowing the playbook. But
(36:09):
I say, if you go back to how he was
in the hook and world, he seemed to be a really,
really good player when he was on the field and
not dropping the ball and fumbling. The point I'm trying
to get you got drafted for a reason. You got
drafted for a reason. A lot of studying happens with
(36:29):
player analysis before they get drafted. It is hard for
me to understand. If he doesn't play this weekend, it
would be very difficult for me to understand. And now
I'm sorry it's so difficult to understand. You drafted him
for a reason, and now it's time to make it happen.
(36:51):
You have to find a way to maybe simplify things
for somebody to get them up to speed. I think
five weeks is more than enough. This is the right
time for you to come in and bring that juice.
I think he's the only other guy that provides that
kind of speed if you were to compare him to
a Kavanta Turpin. So going based on what Brian is saying,
(37:14):
he'd better be on that field this weekend because I
think we might get surprised and see some of the
things that he can bring to the team to that
hook him thing.
Speaker 7 (37:23):
Derek, No, I mean I've said since before they drafted him.
I thought he's a good player. I thought the fumbles
were the biggest issue with him, and my hope is
that that's been corrected.
Speaker 8 (37:36):
Well, we saw a training camp. He looked good.
Speaker 7 (37:38):
Yeah, but that's also I never trust a running back
in training camp, because until they have pads on and
people are actually hitting them and taking them down, it's
hard to really know how good of a back they.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Can really learned that, you know, Williams, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (37:52):
Exactly, And so I just I still look back to
what he was at Texas, And I was telling somebody
this the other day about him at Texas. He was
the kind of back that didn't need a lot of carries.
He didn't need a lot of opportunities. We could be
in a game that was just kind of a man
a slug fest. It's kind of a defensive game, and
then all of a sudden they have one handoff to
(38:14):
Blue Boom, He's gone touchdown and it could be forty yard,
fifty yards whatever. Right, That's what I saw from him
a Texas, and that's what I think the Cowboys could use,
especially while Ceedee Lamb is out and if Cavante Turpin
is out.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
He will give you.
Speaker 7 (38:29):
That home run ability on any given play if you
get him in the right situation. And if the issue
is if the issue is that he's not picking up
everything that he should do and assignment sound, then the
way I would look at it is, let me give
him four or five things. I'm gonna be like in
this game. These are the things we need you.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
To focus on.
Speaker 7 (38:48):
And I need to make sure you're very capable to
do these four or five things during this game. And
that's how I would use him. And I would just
throw that wrinkle in there. He's gonna give He's gonna
be my wrinkle guy. He gives me the wrinkles that
I need for this offense to throw the Jets off
a bit when they think they got a beat on
what we're doing.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Coaches are weird cats, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
They are really good, way to put it, the weird cats.
Speaker 9 (39:11):
And they will they get very comfortable with how things
are operating. And you know the running back room is
you look at the running back room for the Cowboys.
It's the first four weeks of the season. You say, man,
that's been a nice surprise. You know the way that
these veteran guys. And and I totally agree with you
on Blue studying him, watching him play and you know,
(39:31):
watching him play in college, and then you know he
does he does bring a juice. But coaches are weird
in the way they do not want to put somebody
on the field that's not absolutely sure their assignments. You know,
the one thing that's great about Blue is he'll play
special teams for you too. Yeah, you know, I mean
here's a guy that you know, you thought about, Wow,
University of Texas a split time, and you know you're thinking,
(39:52):
you know, kind of that kind of a back and
you can actually go out.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
And tackle on kickoff coverage. That's encouraging.
Speaker 9 (39:58):
So yeah, you're not you know, you going to get
a guy that's going to be able to do those
kinds of things if he's if he's dressed this week,
which I think he will be. I think this is
the week that everybody gets to see Jaydawn Blue play
football and hopefully, you know, in the post game, we're
gonna be talking about what a what a major contribution.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
He made to this, to this attack because Derek and
just No fumbled.
Speaker 9 (40:21):
Yeah, I mean, it's hey, it's he. He is a
he could be a very special player. So you know,
I'm excited to see what that brings.
Speaker 7 (40:29):
Real quick, before we end the show, I did want
to get just some evaluations on a couple of players
from this last game.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
TJ.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Bass and Brockoffin.
Speaker 7 (40:37):
Talk to me about what you saw where they were
good and where they have some things they really have
to work on heading into this next game.
Speaker 9 (40:44):
Yeah, the the things this early in that game, the
second level blocks were just not I mean, they just
could not get there. We saw early the first couple
of drives that it looked like the ball was going
to the outside and then you had Walker and these
running backs running without anybody really you know, cutting them
all off for getting in their way. So that's that
was you know, early in that game was an issue.
But then you know, I felt like that of the two,
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I felt like the bass was the one, you know,
run and pass a little bit better. I kind of
felt like there was some times in the passing game
where Hawpmin was you know, he's hanging on for dear
life and that kind of is the way he's gonna play,
and not These these linemen, even the great ones, aren't
perfect all the time, but you're in a situation where
you know they're gonna fight and they're gonna do They're
gonna they're not gonna they're gonna be very assignment sound.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
They're gonna help each other.
Speaker 9 (41:30):
They worked the whole time together too, during during a
you know, the training camp. You remember every preseason again,
they played every offensive snap those two guys, So that's
a benefit for you right there. But yeah, I think
that if you said overall, who was the one who
had the better go of it, run and passed, I
think Bass was that guy and then Hopman was right there.
But you know, you can't you can't fault them. They
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they had a difficult assignment the inside the inside three
for the Packers, and then having to deal again with
those linebackers were really really tough too.
Speaker 10 (41:58):
I think with Hoffman, we've seen the power that he
brings and the aggressive net that he brings. But the
thing with him is just mainly making sure, hey, don't
draw any penalties, you know, keep it cool, keep it calm,
be aggressive, but know your limits.
Speaker 8 (42:16):
But with TJ.
Speaker 10 (42:16):
Bass, he's a guy that since he's been here, even
though he's not always like he's not the star on
the team or anything like that, but anytime you ask
anybody else, like any other offensive line player or coaches,
he was always a name that was brought up as
someone that has been standing out and has been impressive
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and that they're looking forward to seeing more of him.
So that just that tells you a lot when everybody
else in that room is giving you that name specifically,
and this has been since prior years, so I think
he's very much capable of taking care of the job.
I think it was just being more consistent and just
taking advantage of that opportunity. But I do have a
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lot of faith in what he can bring.
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All Right, I appreciate you guys joining us. We'll be
back tomorrow.
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Of course Amber is just like she's still excited with
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Don't make me nice, And so we will we will
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I real quick, just want to say happy birthday to
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To day, joys herthday and still listen to the show.
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Mom's always in. Mom will never not listen. But my wife,
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She's working. Let's just put it like that he's working anyway. Uh,
let's talk. Let's talk about the injury list. This injury
list just exploded yesterday.
Speaker 7 (01:56):
It did a lot of stuff on there that that
just kind of just popped up on everyone. I got
some indications on a couple of these things earlier in
the week, but man, to see them all in one list,
it was very shocking.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Uh, let's go through the list. Let's talk about some
of these.
Speaker 7 (02:13):
Obviously, we know about Tyler Booker, we know about Cedee Lamb.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I did see though yesterday.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
Well I saw yesterday there was some footage coming out
of practice where CD was out of his boot. Yeah,
both of them, Yeah, I think said both are still
through out of the boot. Yes, so that's actually positive
for both of them to be moving along. They haven't
been placed on IR, so that's those are positive things. Now,
let's talk about Tyler Guiden and Moone Cooker and Miles Sanders.
Those are three guys that got injured in the game,
(02:42):
and we knew about those injuries.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
What do we know at this point about the three?
Speaker 9 (02:46):
Yeah, the thing with with Geydon, Uh now excuse me, uh,
the one that Smith did you say Smith.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I didn't. We're gonna get Smith in a second.
Speaker 9 (02:54):
The one with Guiding and so yeah, you're once again
that they d m P as we talked about yesterday,
They're gonna monitor again another day and see what happens
with that. So as we get through today and then
Friday will be the indicator. But they feel like they're
gonna need one more day on both of those and
then they'll be able to make that determination after today
when they get done with practice whether they're going to
(03:15):
be available for this game this weekend. My my, My
early indications are though that this is going to be
close on It's gonna be close on Guiden, but we'll see.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
We'll stay with with Hooker, but.
Speaker 9 (03:28):
Right now they're gonna need at least today to kind
of figure out what they're gonna do tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (03:32):
So both Hooker and Guiden are touching gold, touching out. Yeah,
what are you hearing about Miles Sanders?
Speaker 9 (03:39):
Miles Sanders is another one that's kind of a touch
and go situation with them. So this might be the
week that you actually see uh Blue get an opportunity
to play. They're gonna they're monitoring that situation today with
how he practices, and then going forward, what they're gonna
be able to do with Sanders and Sanders is that
one's looking a little bit touching Oh right now too, all.
Speaker 7 (04:01):
Right, these are the two that popped up that I
think surprised most folks. Tyler Smith jumped onto the injury
report with a knee injury. He did not practice. Cavante
Turpin uh with a foot injury? He practice? What are
we hearing about those two? And and the amount of
time that maybe they might have to miss.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yeah, they don't know about the thing.
Speaker 9 (04:19):
They don't know yet about the time that that that
Turpin could miss. I mean they and I asked like, hey,
is this game several games a couple of games, and
they go, we don't know that yet, but they think
it's a They think it's.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
A serious injury.
Speaker 9 (04:32):
You know, foot sprains are serious, so they're they're looking
at that right now, but they don't have a gauge
on exactly how long that will be. I was told
on the the Tyler Smith one, this is the normal
that you know, he's dealing with the tendonitis in his
knee and so this is the same thing he's been
dealing with before. It's just they have to continue to
monitor this. I was told, Hey, this is something that
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is not new. This is something remember when he was
missing early in the season. He was missing practice and
things like that, and there were some questions about him.
But this is the same need. It's it's just something
that they're going to have to kind of work through
the whole entire season.
Speaker 7 (05:08):
They say, So, how does that work when you when
you have an injury like that. Is it one that
obviously they'll manage it throughout the year. Is it one
that then you get to the off season and there's
a surgery you have to have.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Is it one that you.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
Gets it off season you just have to sit and
wait and let it kind of heal and just right
now in the season, you don't have time to let
it heal, and that's why you can manage it.
Speaker 9 (05:26):
Yeah, you don't have time, and so it's it's just
missing practices.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
And stuff like that.
Speaker 7 (05:30):
But it's not a long term injury. Doesn't from the
standpoint it's like the future years. It's more just he's
gonna need time. Right now, you don't have time.
Speaker 9 (05:37):
I asked the question. I'm like, hey, is this one
of those things that's something new? And then like, no, no, no,
we knew about this injury. This is something we've been
dealing with. We just put them on the report.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Okay, now come on.
Speaker 10 (05:47):
Why can we Oh no, you're about to say the
next one. I'm like, oh my gosh, why can't we
just I was gonna say I'd be happy and enjoy
It hasn't been an enjoyable season so far, but at
least on the offense. We've been talking about the O
line and Dyk and the running game, and it's just
the hits keep coming on the O line, which is
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the one area that you want to just try to
keep consistent, and now it's just one thing after the other.
Speaker 8 (06:16):
Yeah, and go ahead, mention the next one.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Well before we even go to Turpin.
Speaker 7 (06:20):
I think if you look at the offensive line, the
interesting part is that the Cowboys have actually, in my opinion,
done a pretty good job with bass and with with
Hoffmann playing.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
In start in place. So they're two starters who are
already out.
Speaker 7 (06:34):
My question just becomes how capable are they of continuing
to take kids. Let's say now Guidan is out, and
then let's say maybe Tyler is out. Now, at what
point does it become just too much?
Speaker 8 (06:46):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Sustain big change.
Speaker 7 (06:49):
Yeah, I mean credit to them that they have the
good depth they have so far, but how much depth
do they have?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Right?
Speaker 9 (06:55):
It's now you're in the situation with Nate Thomas potentially
having to play, you know, steal, so you're probably looking
at I think that Smith is going to play. I
think this is something that it's just every week we're
going to see him on the injury report, likely until
they get maybe to the bye week and you have
a game where you could just not play and rest.
(07:15):
So yeah, if if I think the worst case scenario
is it would be Thomas at left tackle, Smith at
left guard, Hopping at center, Bascett right guard, and then
steal at right tackle. Now behind that then if if
you have more injuries, then here we go again.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
You know.
Speaker 9 (07:36):
That's that's the things that you have to kind of
be a little bit concerned about. The depth behind the
depth is always going to.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Be a problem, right, yeah, because there's a reason why
they're the depth.
Speaker 7 (07:46):
Behind the depth right right, right right, So so far
if you were if you were looking at it, do
you think that, uh, do you think that, like whatever
you have, Let's say Nate has to go out there
and play, yea, we would like what he's done when
he's had to go out.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
There at all.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Right, it's not a problem.
Speaker 7 (08:01):
So you really don't think you take it as long
as Tyler can play, you feel pretty good about what
you said it out right.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I know you absolutely do. I mean, from what you've
seen so far, so good.
Speaker 9 (08:09):
Uh, you know, the way they were able to match up,
and you know, we'll get into the Jets and the
you know, some of the issues that they have on
their defensive line, it's not injury related. It's just they
have not created a bunch of pass rush, you know,
and they've got some guys that can they can rush
the passer, but a little bit similar to what Dallas
has done. When when they get pressure, they've they've done
a good job. It's when they don't get pressure that
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teams have taken advantage. But you know, if they have
to go, you know, like I say, it's it's it's
just the depth behind the depth that's the biggest issue.
If if, in fact, I could say, I think Smith
is going to play in this football game.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
But but but Thomas.
Speaker 9 (08:45):
If you got to remember, Nate Thomas was a guy
that you know, Philadelphia week we were having these conversations
and we were saying, oh, well, Nate Thomas, should we
start him or do you bring Geydon? And you know,
it was kind of fifty to fifty and they got
to the point where even asked Steven Joe's a question, uh,
you know, in like week two, and he said, listen,
you know, Nate Thomas is ready and he's pushing, and
(09:08):
those guys have got to you know, the guys ahead
of him have got to step up the games and
stuff like that. And what happened the other day we
saw Nate Thomas go in the game for Steel and
Steel was completely healthy. So they're there and it's something
that Schottenheimer was really not interested in doing. But you
know they want to make sure that Nate Thomas is
ready for these times.
Speaker 10 (09:26):
Well, I can't wait for you to give us some
good analysis and good positivity, some.
Speaker 8 (09:31):
Good news about this just defensive.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Line, desper team theory, desper team theory and all that.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
Let's let's talk a little bit about Turpin just because
it's my man. Well, let me say it's it's my
belief last week that the reason why the offense functioned
the way that it did absent Ceedee Lamb was about
Cavante Turpin. I agree Turpin still provides, Agree that X factor,
that that guy that the defense has to really be
(09:59):
worried about without him out there. How comfortable do you
feel with Pickings being your wide receiver one? And then
you've got Jalen Toldard who had a night a really
nice catch last week, great catch who Ryan f Illinois
had a great catch last week in a situation.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
They played very well, right as a group.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
When they all have to slide up, those two guys
have to slide up and become your wide receiver two
and your wide receiver three, and you lose the juice
of somebody like Cavante Turpin, how comfortable do you feel
that this offense can still operate?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Go for it?
Speaker 10 (10:31):
AG, Well, this news was very unfortunate because when we
got here after that game and we talked about the game,
and I think it was yesterday or the day before,
we were talking about come on to terping and everything
that he Oh, it was a question you sent that
in Brian when you were out if he was a
gadget player still or is he now a reliable player
(10:52):
at the wide receiver where you have to use him more?
And I was like, okay, well, the way he's playing,
why not utilize him more? And some of the concerns
you have about him was okay, his size can hear
last in this league, you know, playing so many snaps
week to week And I'm not sure do you guys
know exactly when the injury happened or.
Speaker 9 (11:15):
Do I think he Like I said, I was going
to go back and look at this and I might
do it at the break, but I thought it was
later in the game he got tackled along the sidelines
and he had a little issue with it.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Then I didn't think anything of it at the time.
Speaker 8 (11:27):
I would imagine it happened at some point late in
the game. I don't think.
Speaker 9 (11:30):
Anything that's the same thing. It happened to a Booker,
you know, a late game, got rolled up on with
two minutes to go in the game.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
But yeah, I'll go back.
Speaker 10 (11:39):
And but going back to that, we saw we started
seeing how much they've been using him on offense and
how much he just kind of it brings a different
type of energy boost to the offense. And now you
take that away, Plus you're not you're still not having
CD in there. Now you're having to rely and again
(11:59):
these other players, yes they're good, but you're missing that
extra spark in there to help you get moving and
keep defenses guessing. So it's gonna be a big change
not having him in there. And I think it does
lose that type of momentum that they started building on
this offense.
Speaker 9 (12:20):
This is what this is, how valuable valuable he is.
It takes two people to replace Ceede Lamb. And I
say it this way, You've got You've got Pickings does
a certain thing. He could bring a level of Ceedee
Lamb to down the field to catch the spectacular make plays.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
But he's not a move around guy. You don't move in.
Speaker 9 (12:43):
He stays generally in a spot. He stays either right
or left. He's not a guy that goes in the slot.
He doesn't go in, he doesn't play. He doesn't always
go on on the outside to uh or he will
play on the outside, but it's not always right and left.
Ceedee Lamb is a right left slot player. So what
they have to do is to make up for that.
That's why they had success. They used They used Turpin
(13:07):
as their slot player and they use him on the outside.
So he combined with what Pickens skill set is kind
of gets you what you have in ced Lamb. So
you don't miss a beat though with your your top
receiver that way, taking him out of this now takes
the element. Now you're going to have to replace that
that ced Lamb again. Who is going to be the
(13:28):
guy that steps up with Pickens, that gives you the
that gives you that level of where you get with
ced Lamb. So this is this is a this is
a significant injury for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
And to that point, Brian somebody with his skill set
becomes even more dangerous when you're moving them around because
now defenses are having to adapt to He's not gonna
stay in the same spot. That's he's going to get
to the line of screaming and he's gonna move. And
now the defense has to morph to be able to
count for his speed wherever he goes. And so I
think that's the part that it's not just about him
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as a receiver. It's about the skill set that he has.
It's about the speed that he has, the elusiveness that
he has. Defenses have to account for that no matter
where he is on the field.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
You take that away.
Speaker 7 (14:13):
I just think it changes how defenses can play this
this this this Cowboys receiver group.
Speaker 9 (14:18):
It's it's it's tough because he's the one that's put
in motion the most of all the Cowboy receivers. He's
the one whose motion numbers are the highest of any
after a game, and he does a lot of different things.
But it also hurts you in the return game. You know,
you look at the situation. You mean, look what he
did in the in the game the other day, and
in no remember where he might have got hurt was
(14:39):
the tackle they ran, they ran, They had a second
kickoff return he got went up to the forty five
and then they had a holding penalty that was and I'll.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Look this up.
Speaker 9 (14:48):
And then he got tackled again, and then they got
the ball about the forty yard line again, and then
they got a they got a holding penalty.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
That brought the ball back.
Speaker 9 (14:56):
So I think that's he might have got hurt on
that second you know, kickoff return that he had they
got tackled along the silence. But yeah, it kills your
slot game, and it kills your ability to return punts
and return kicks.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
So I'm gonna ask you guys this question, who steps up? No, well,
that's a whole different conversation. But if the Cowboys at
some point have to make the decision that, because of
his size, you just can't play him as much as
they really want to play him, and you had to
make a decision, not to say they're gonna have to
make this decision, but if you had to make the
(15:30):
decision whether you use him as a returner or as
a wide receiver, which is more valuable.
Speaker 9 (15:36):
Derek, I'm gonna answer this question as truthfully as I can. Right,
you need him as a receiver because my defense can't
stop to make people punt. You know, I have to,
you know, And yeah, the kickoff return aspect of it
is because yeah, teams aren't been scoring on you. You
have been giving up points. You know, the Giants scored
a massive number on you, and so did the Packers.
(15:57):
So yeah, you are getting the opportunity for kickoff return
when we saw him bring the ball back to midfield
and just in the blink of an eye. But in reality, though,
as long as Lamb's not playing, I need him to
play receiver is what I need to do. And he's
a valuable special teams players, a Pro Bowl special teams player,
but I'm getting people to punt. I haven't been able
(16:18):
to use him as a punt retur. My defense has
just not done a very good job even of even
doing that. So I've gotta use him as a receiver well.
Speaker 8 (16:26):
And also that's where it comes.
Speaker 10 (16:29):
It becomes difficult to really make those those decisions of
managing players based on okay, well they have this size,
and based on things that could potentially happen.
Speaker 8 (16:39):
But you can't predict the future. But I've always heard
if you have good players, you play them.
Speaker 10 (16:45):
You cannot not play them just because, oh they might
get injured.
Speaker 8 (16:50):
If he is not complaining and saying Hey, you know,
I'm dying out there. I'm out of.
Speaker 10 (16:55):
Bread, Like, give me a quick break. If he's not
doing that, keep playing him. You can just bubble wrap
people just in case. And he's too valuable. He's too
valuable and too skilled not to have him out there
as much as they've been using himself.
Speaker 9 (17:12):
I think I think a lot of it has to
do with the guys behind him, though, too. Who's stepping
the you stepping up? I mean last week you did
you got Tolbert played at a nice level.
Speaker 8 (17:23):
Mingo.
Speaker 9 (17:23):
Yeah, Mingo is starting to practice on a limited basis.
You know that could be You have to be very
mindful of these elevations, and when you do it, you
have to be almost strategic about it. You know, you
just can't say, Okay, bring the guy back, bringing back guy,
but you know, because there's some ramplications that happened with that.
So yeah, this is this is now about what's gonna
happen with Flinoy, What's gonna happen with Mingo, what's gonna
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happen with you know, with with Tolbert, all these guys.
I mean, they're gonna have to find ways to make
up for a loss here yeah.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
I think the challenge there though, is that none of
them have the kind of juice none that Cat Turpin has.
And I think that's the part that I'm most concerned about,
is where you're gonna get your juice, where you're gonna
get that speed. And if you don't have speed out
there at some part of you, in some part of
your offense, then defenses can play you very, very differently.
It makes it everything becomes a lot easier when you
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don't have to deal with speed. And I shouldn't say
like that because there's some guys that can run. It
ain't Cabanti Turpent type speed. And so I think that's
the difference maker, and that's what I think the Cowboys
would lose if they don't have him on the field.
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break down this New York Jet defense for us.
Speaker 9 (21:26):
Yeah, I think there's really four guys you're going to
kind of have to think about in this one.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
And you know, the the.
Speaker 9 (21:31):
Jets have really they've had their moments where they've they
just have not been very good. And when they've when
they've struggled extremely what they're tackling, they they've had a
really a last game against the Dolphins, it was really
very clear, Uh, that they were that they were struggling.
It matters the linebackers, the safeties. I mean it's been
(21:51):
a corners that they've had some problems. And what happens
is when you watch them play, they're predominantly are very
aggressive defense. Because you of Aaron Glenn and you think
about the way that he played at Detroit, and you
know they play, they play a ton of man coverage.
They also have a guy they'll travel with you, and
that's Sauce Gardner. And and you know he last year
(22:12):
he wasn't so much a traveler. But now with like
I mentioned, with Aaron Glenn and this crew that you know,
opening opening a day against Seattle against six seeing the Steelers,
you know he was with Madcalf ninety percent of the time.
In Tampa Bay, he was with there guys sixty percent
of the time. When you start to talk about how
(22:33):
you know they and and and Aaron Glenn, I think
it's only going to get more now that you have
Cede Lamb in this game. Excuse me, Uh, George Pickens
in this game. Uh, this could be a game where
all of a sudden that they determine that George Pickens
could be the biggest weapon.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
And now you.
Speaker 9 (22:47):
Travel sauce with him, so you'll see him. He wears
number one. He's very difficult to get away from. He's
a very sticky player. He takes a lot of pride
in how he plays that way. He could be very physical.
He's not afraid to mix things up. He's the type
of guy you love to have on your team because
you can do a lot of things with him. I
(23:08):
wouldn't be surprised if, in fact that the Jets say, Okay,
your best receiver, especially if there's no turpin in this game,
your best receiver is Pickens, and now we're going to
travel him with and see how that goes for the Jets.
And then but there's a there's a price for that,
because on the other side, Brandon Stevens has been just
(23:28):
getting worked. And when you watch him, he wears number
twenty one in quarterbacks number huh.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Yeah, quarterbacks exactly.
Speaker 9 (23:36):
Quarterbacks when they have targeted him have have had damn
near a perfect quarterback rating.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Is what's happened.
Speaker 9 (23:44):
So yeah, so through four games, through four games, yeah, yeah,
so he is. He has been. It has been a
real real issue. Like I say, he will he will play. You'll,
like I say, you'll see Gardner either play left or right,
and then what happens Stevens goes with the other receiver
and so then he's kind of left in that in
that mode. And people teams have stayed away from Sauce Gardner.
(24:08):
There's reasons why. I mean they just he he that
just the way I described him. He's that type of player.
But on the other side, yeah, Brandon Stevens has had
his share of proms. Now, you know, can you win
teams in the first four weeks have been able to
win against Stevens. You know, can you set things up
to maybe where can you put and we we talked
(24:29):
about it earlier with uh. You know, with Pickens, he
doesn't move a whole lot. Remember when you have Lamb,
which you could do with Lamb you can play him
left or right and you could also put him the
slot to get away from that type of coverage. Well
if Pickens, Pickens just doesn't go in the slot. Well
this is so Now this is a game where it's
going to have to be. If it's again no Turpin,
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then how's Tolbert, how's uh, you know, how how are
they going to Flinoy. How are they going to play
and they're going to have to play at a pretty
pretty high level. Now, this team, I mentioned earlier that
they rushed the passer in a way where their their
pressure generally comes from really one guy at will McDonald
and he wears number nine. When you watch him play
(25:12):
the sacks he had, he was really really good against
Pittsburgh and then they then they've also played Buffalo and
then Tampa Bay. He had a nice game rushing against Tampa.
He blocked a field goal that and returned it. You know,
he's a He's a quality player. He's kind of a
thin built guy, but he's going to come flying off
the edge. So you'll see him playing both on the
(25:33):
right side and the left side. They kind of move
him around trying to kind of figure out where the
best matchup for him is. But he is the guy
you're going to have to be concerned about. Quinn Williams,
the defensive tackle, would be the next guy I think you.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Really need to know about.
Speaker 9 (25:47):
He's a guy that did He's from last year he
wasn't so much a pressure player, which was funny. He
now in this scheme with Aaron Glenn, He's done a
much better job of forcing pressures, controlling in the middle.
He could be a hard guy to block one on one.
This team has struggled with though. When you watch them play,
is they're struggling in the running game because they'll take
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themselves out of positions. There'll be a lot of times
where all of a sudden, snap the ball, they'll slant
and then they're out of position and they don't recover,
they'll miss a tackle, then it's a big play. You
can watch ten plus runs against these guys. They did
a great job against the Steelers Notepenny Day, and you're thinking, like, whoa,
you know, Steelers didn't have a run over ten yards,
They didn't have a they were average, like right at
(26:31):
three yards of carry. But since then, some teams have
been able to kind of move the ball on them
a little bit running. But I think a lot of
it is kind of a self inflicted with their movement
and then they don't react very well once the movement,
they go one way, take themselves out of play, and
then the ball is passed them that way. So Dallas
might have an opportunity to run the ball against these
(26:51):
guys again, can you take advantage Williams has done a
great job of taking the ball, reading the blocks and
then making the cuts. That's something you're going to have
to do this football game as well to to kind
of to kind of get that done. So attack Brandon
Stevens the corner number twenty one. Be ready for Sauce Garden.
(27:11):
You're walking with Pickens or traveling with Pickens, got to
make sure you find them.
Speaker 10 (27:15):
Well that's uh, we got a botch here in the
in the chat like yeah, like a true YouTuber.
Speaker 8 (27:22):
He's in here in the chat.
Speaker 10 (27:24):
He said, tell Brian that Sauce travels because the other
corner of DJ Reid is gone, and that Pickens has
filmed from last year whooping Sauce Ye, So even.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
Having him travel with him, there's there's there's reality. I
me he can he can handle it, thickets cap.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 9 (27:41):
I can say I didn't go back to watching the
Pittsburgh last year film with this, but I did watch
Pittsburgh this year which is opening day. But yeah, that's
great watch you. I appreciate you doing that. Safe travels
to you, man. Uh, but yeah, this to me that
if you're gonna throw the ball, it's gonna be on
It's gonna be on this this corner.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Stevens.
Speaker 9 (27:58):
I think that Andre Cisco, who they signed from Jacksonville
as a safety, I think there's gonna be some opportunities
in the middle of the field. Teams have run some
crossers and stuff where the safeties have had to pick up.
They do play a lot of man coverage, they they
but they've allowed the second most yards allowed this season,
(28:19):
playing the most, playing a ton of that man coverage
and they're gonna stay in it. So the completion percentage
is really really high against these guys too, So, but
it's gonna be about.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Pressure, you know.
Speaker 9 (28:29):
Can they find a way with will McDonald to get
pressure Jermaine Johnson, you know those guys are and then
also with Quinn Williams. But that's kind of where this
defense is at right now, is that they've got some
really good players. They just really haven't put it all together.
Speaker 7 (28:45):
Yet looking at what they've done. You mentioned the run
defense against the Bills in Week two, they gave up
two hundred and twenty four yards on the ground.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
They were really bad.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
Yeah, against the Bucks, they gave up one hundred and
twenty two. Against Miami, they gave up one hundred and
twenty three. When you think stylistically and schematically how the
Cowboys like to run the ball. They've had a good
running game I think so far this season. I don't
think they've had a game yet where they've relied on
the run. When you think about again, schematically what Dallas
likes to do and schematically what these other teams have
(29:15):
had some success like to do, how well do you
think this matches up as a game where the Cowboys
could possibly lean heavily on the run.
Speaker 9 (29:23):
They could, They could absolutely lean heavily on it, though
I do worry, Like I say, if we'll see with
with no Guidon, I think that might help you a
little bit more because I think Thomas has a little
bit more power if Geyiton were to not play in
this particular game. You know, I think that, you know,
it's going to be about Dallas has had the ability.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
They've done some.
Speaker 9 (29:42):
Really good things you mentioned scheme wise running the ball,
but they've had Hunter Lipkey at times has missed some
blocks you know the other day. You know, with they're
still getting a lot of good workout of span Forward
and what he's been able to do at the point
of attack. I you know, with McDonell and then and
then Johnson, I lean on these guys. These are like
these it's kind of like what you see with the Giants,
(30:03):
those those tall, long pass rushers want to get up
the field. I think that, you know, Dallas can hammer
on these guys a little bit that way. And Williams
has done a really good job. Wherever the hole has been,
they've done a really good job of his He's found
that hole and been able to attack it. He's he's
not dancing around. He's just going to go. He's gonna
(30:25):
get his four and a half yards five yards, get
back for the next play. And that's where I think
that you have to The Jets have had some problems
in the game against Buffalo, they had problems with tackling.
I mentioned in the Dolphin games tackling. They get backs
that all of a sudden, they're kind of bouncing through
there and the next thing you know, it's you know,
they don't get a tackled and it's an even larger play.
(30:46):
So you just got to kind of I think Williams
can have some success scheme wise. We've talked, we've seen
the polls and things like that. Which you have to
worry about with I mentioned earlier with this jet Stevens
is they'll they'll move, they'll take the front and they're
trying to move it to where they'll take a risk,
and like they'll slant it strong, and it's run them
(31:06):
out of some plays. It's run them out of some ties.
All of a sudden, they're all slanted and now the
ball's going the other way, and now everybody's out of
position and they've the one thing the stewards did to
him pretty good was take them one way and then
take the ball back the other way. It wasn't running
the ball that way, but throwing the ball. We've seen
Dallas with the waggles of boots. It just shows you
how how much they want to try and get after
(31:29):
the ball. And so they're gonna they're gonna gamble that way,
and you know in this game they might catch a
couple of times, so they slant right into what you're
doing and then be able to make those plays. But
I think if Dallas stays after this, we've seen some
teams the last three weeks have some success running the
ball against these guys.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
All Right, we're gonna take our final break.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
When we come back, I want to talk about Jayden
Blue and maybe is this the week that, regardless of
what happens with Miles Sanders, is this the week where
maybe the Dallas Cowboys need to figure out how to
make him active? Because speaking of that juice, maybe he
gives you some of that juice Thatt Cavante Turpin would
have provided in the event he's going to miss the game.
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We are in the final segment of The Break black
Ness WBC Mortgage Studios. At the start, we got about
nine minutes left on the show. Let's talk about Jaden Blue.
As I mentioned earlier, my BI is concerned if Turpin
can't play is who will give the Cowboys offense the
speed that it needs in order to make it dynamic.
Jayden Blue is a guy that has some speed. He
has not been active through the first four weeks of
(35:13):
the season. Is this the week that it should happen?
And how much does he help this offense if it does?
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Gives an answer A g.
Speaker 10 (35:22):
I'm reading all the comments here, people asking for Jaden
Blue to get in there, and we were talking about it,
right and during the preak week he better. Ye, there's
no other option. I think.
Speaker 8 (35:36):
What week five now? Correct? Week five?
Speaker 5 (35:40):
That shoot, it is crazy.
Speaker 10 (35:44):
But what we've heard, let me say this nicely, what
we've heard about him is that maybe he's not kind
of up to speed on some of the things that
need to happen on the offense when you're talking about
the different plays and you know, knowing the playbook. But
(36:09):
I say, if you go back to how he was
in the hook and world, he seemed to be a really,
really good player when he was on the field and
not dropping the ball and fumbling. The point I'm trying
to get you got drafted for a reason. You got
drafted for a reason. A lot of studying happens with
(36:29):
player analysis before they get drafted. It is hard for
me to understand. If he doesn't play this weekend, it
would be very difficult for me to understand. And now
I'm sorry it's so difficult to understand. You drafted him
for a reason, and now it's time to make it happen.
(36:51):
You have to find a way to maybe simplify things
for somebody to get them up to speed. I think
five weeks is more than enough. This is the right
time for you to come in and bring that juice.
I think he's the only other guy that provides that
kind of speed if you were to compare him to
a Kavanta Turpin. So going based on what Brian is saying,
(37:14):
he'd better be on that field this weekend because I
think we might get surprised and see some of the
things that he can bring to the team to that
hook him thing.
Speaker 7 (37:23):
Derek, No, I mean I've said since before they drafted him.
I thought he's a good player. I thought the fumbles
were the biggest issue with him, and my hope is
that that's been corrected.
Speaker 8 (37:36):
Well, we saw a training camp. He looked good.
Speaker 7 (37:38):
Yeah, but that's also I never trust a running back
in training camp, because until they have pads on and
people are actually hitting them and taking them down, it's
hard to really know how good of a back they.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Can really learned that, you know, Williams, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (37:52):
Exactly, And so I just I still look back to
what he was at Texas, And I was telling somebody
this the other day about him at Texas. He was
the kind of back that didn't need a lot of carries.
He didn't need a lot of opportunities. We could be
in a game that was just kind of a man
a slug fest. It's kind of a defensive game, and
then all of a sudden they have one handoff to
(38:14):
Blue Boom, He's gone touchdown and it could be forty yard,
fifty yards whatever. Right, That's what I saw from him
a Texas, and that's what I think the Cowboys could use,
especially while Ceedee Lamb is out and if Cavante Turpin
is out.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
He will give you.
Speaker 7 (38:29):
That home run ability on any given play if you
get him in the right situation. And if the issue
is if the issue is that he's not picking up
everything that he should do and assignment sound, then the
way I would look at it is, let me give
him four or five things. I'm gonna be like in
this game. These are the things we need you.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
To focus on.
Speaker 7 (38:48):
And I need to make sure you're very capable to
do these four or five things during this game. And
that's how I would use him. And I would just
throw that wrinkle in there. He's gonna give He's gonna
be my wrinkle guy. He gives me the wrinkles that
I need for this offense to throw the Jets off
a bit when they think they got a beat on
what we're doing.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Coaches are weird cats, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
They are really good, way to put it, the weird cats.
Speaker 9 (39:11):
And they will they get very comfortable with how things
are operating. And you know the running back room is
you look at the running back room for the Cowboys.
It's the first four weeks of the season. You say, man,
that's been a nice surprise. You know the way that
these veteran guys. And and I totally agree with you
on Blue studying him, watching him play and you know,
(39:31):
watching him play in college, and then you know he
does he does bring a juice. But coaches are weird
in the way they do not want to put somebody
on the field that's not absolutely sure their assignments. You know,
the one thing that's great about Blue is he'll play
special teams for you too. Yeah, you know, I mean
here's a guy that you know, you thought about, Wow,
University of Texas a split time, and you know you're thinking,
(39:52):
you know, kind of that kind of a back and
you can actually go out.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
And tackle on kickoff coverage. That's encouraging.
Speaker 9 (39:58):
So yeah, you're not you know, you going to get
a guy that's going to be able to do those
kinds of things if he's if he's dressed this week,
which I think he will be. I think this is
the week that everybody gets to see Jaydawn Blue play
football and hopefully, you know, in the post game, we're
gonna be talking about what a what a major contribution.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
He made to this, to this attack because Derek and
just No fumbled.
Speaker 9 (40:21):
Yeah, I mean, it's hey, it's he. He is a
he could be a very special player. So you know,
I'm excited to see what that brings.
Speaker 7 (40:29):
Real quick, before we end the show, I did want
to get just some evaluations on a couple of players
from this last game.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
TJ.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Bass and Brockoffin.
Speaker 7 (40:37):
Talk to me about what you saw where they were
good and where they have some things they really have
to work on heading into this next game.
Speaker 9 (40:44):
Yeah, the the things this early in that game, the
second level blocks were just not I mean, they just
could not get there. We saw early the first couple
of drives that it looked like the ball was going
to the outside and then you had Walker and these
running backs running without anybody really you know, cutting them
all off for getting in their way. So that's that
was you know, early in that game was an issue.
But then you know, I felt like that of the two,
(41:07):
I felt like the bass was the one, you know,
run and pass a little bit better. I kind of
felt like there was some times in the passing game
where Hawpmin was you know, he's hanging on for dear
life and that kind of is the way he's gonna play,
and not These these linemen, even the great ones, aren't
perfect all the time, but you're in a situation where
you know they're gonna fight and they're gonna do They're
gonna they're not gonna they're gonna be very assignment sound.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
They're gonna help each other.
Speaker 9 (41:30):
They worked the whole time together too, during during a
you know, the training camp. You remember every preseason again,
they played every offensive snap those two guys, So that's
a benefit for you right there. But yeah, I think
that if you said overall, who was the one who
had the better go of it, run and passed, I
think Bass was that guy and then Hopman was right there.
But you know, you can't you can't fault them. They
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they had a difficult assignment the inside the inside three
for the Packers, and then having to deal again with
those linebackers were really really tough too.
Speaker 10 (41:58):
I think with Hoffman, we've seen the power that he
brings and the aggressive net that he brings. But the
thing with him is just mainly making sure, hey, don't
draw any penalties, you know, keep it cool, keep it calm,
be aggressive, but know your limits.
Speaker 8 (42:16):
But with TJ.
Speaker 10 (42:16):
Bass, he's a guy that since he's been here, even
though he's not always like he's not the star on
the team or anything like that, but anytime you ask
anybody else, like any other offensive line player or coaches,
he was always a name that was brought up as
someone that has been standing out and has been impressive
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and that they're looking forward to seeing more of him.
So that just that tells you a lot when everybody
else in that room is giving you that name specifically,
and this has been since prior years, so I think
he's very much capable of taking care of the job.
I think it was just being more consistent and just
taking advantage of that opportunity. But I do have a
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lot of faith in what he can bring.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
All Right, I appreciate you guys joining us. We'll be
back tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (43:06):
We will wrap this thing up and get you ready
with our final thoughts of Cowboys versus Jets in New York.
Till then, for Brian brought us Amber Garcia. I am
Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break live on Dallas
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