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It is Wednesday, May twenty first, twenty twenty five, Season
twenty one, episode number eleven. Welcome to the latest edition
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Speaker 6 (01:02):
Derek, what do you think about George Pickens? I have
heard of you and two you ever heard me talk
about George?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
No, sir, I love love, love, love love the move.
I mean like, argue with me and tell me why
he's not a number one receiver with a good quarterback man.
Speaker 8 (01:19):
You know what.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
I was listening to one five, three to fan, and
I don't want to say nothing bad about them because
we like work together with They had somebody.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Okay, we all by the way, we all good. We talked,
we talked a little bit back and forth. It's all good.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
They have some character from Pittsburgh. He's a Pittsburgh writer
or something like that. Bobby Belt asked, well, is George
Pickens a one? He was like that guy, he's a
really good two. Well, I watched film, you know, and
and and you know, if you're film.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
I sure do.
Speaker 6 (01:44):
Brian brought and if you're able to beat Pro Bowl corners,
that's that's false. If you're able to beat Pro Bowl corners,
all pro corners, like number one corners in man coverage,
I think you're a wide receiver one. Like if I
think about what a wire receiver two is, I just
think about Michael Gallup. I don't think Michael Gallup's whooping
certain like that. You know Gardner DJ, I don't think
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he's whooping guys like that. There's film of George Pickens
whooping guys like that. So yeah, to me, George Pickens
is a bona fide is a bona fide wide receiver
one with Justin Fields, Kenny Pikett, Mason Rudolph, and Old
Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Please, can I ask you this question? Yes, this is
a question for the table right now. If we all
assume he is a one or at least a one,
A one B whatever, who has a better receiving core
right now? Between the Cowboys Nagles.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
People gonna hate me for saying this.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
I think the Cowboys have the better quarterback, so I
think by way of that, they'll have the better wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Corps and will kill you tight ends. Are we having
tight ends too?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
No, we're just talking. We're just talking two receivers and quarterback.
Or you don't have to take the quarterback, just the
two receivers and their skill set and what they can
provide for a team.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
I'm taking the Dallas Cowboys because in my mind, shout
out to the Eagle receivers. Right but if they had
like a terrible quarterback, I don't think they would be
producing in the same way that I've seen George Pickens
produced with terrible with like terrible passers. Right Like, if
you just watch Pickens highlights and you will walk away
going man, it's a fantastic catch. Boy, that's a tough catch.
(03:15):
But look at the the pass that he had to catch.
Don't just think about the catch. Think about him having
to flip in the air six times, or having to
change shoulders where he's having to track the ball and
find the football right, think about think about why that
pass looks that way. If George Pickens finally gets passes.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
On the money, yeah there you go. Oh come on,
and ladies and gentlemen, why.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
A yeah, this is where it's gonna come down to
is because I kind of feel like that that lamb
we've got an advantage with lamb. There where it's gonna
come down to him is where Pickens is with the others.
And to me, watch hit it perfectly when you look
at when you look at Pickens and how his ability
to play on the move and then catch give him
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the opportunity to catch a pass and make a run
after catch. There's so many times we've seen him have
to adjust and now his run after catch gets negated
because of a poor throw or inaccurate throw. I think
that when you start to see I think George Pickens
is going to benefit from having a quarterback that can
hit him on the move and allow him that skill
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that we saw in college where he's able to finish
these runs. But there's so many times where you've watched
him have to make plays behind him way too low
and not take advantage of his skill set running with
the football. That's where the Eagles have you a little
bit there. That a Billy with Smith and those guys
when they catch that ball in the move and then
they're able to get north south and go, you know,
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that makes him a very very dangerous combination. I think
you've got the best one in Lamb. Now how do
you how do the other two how to their two
compared to your guy? And I think the other I
think your guy will have a better, a more even
playing field with a quarterback that can show the skill
set that he's capable of having.
Speaker 9 (04:58):
Oh and this whole thing, I was just gonna say,
this whole thing. Even the addition of Pickens, I mean,
this is going to elevate Lamb's game even more. This
is going to create more opportunities for him. So we
know what we've seen with Lamb with not really having
great wide receivers around him. Now having a guy like
Pickens come into the game and create more opportunities. I
(05:18):
think we haven't seen the best yet.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Well, okay, let me let me do one thing real
quick here. And this is when Ag, when you were talking,
this reminds me so much of what you always say,
you know, And I'm just I'm asking here, I'm looking
right in the camera and asking here, right now, I'm
saying this, let's not get into thing where it's Brandon Cooks.
In a week five, AG's asking the question, well, where's Pickings?
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Why is it Pickens done? This is on this coach.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
The talent is there.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Find a way to get this guy going in games.
You know, you can find a way, get Lamb go,
get all these receivers going, but especially this guy.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
This guy is a weapon. But don't have AG in
week six ask where's Pickets?
Speaker 9 (06:01):
Like a different coaching staff, exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
And that's what I'm saying is, let's not, let's not.
This might be the only year you have this guy.
We don't know, but for right now, you know, we'll
see how contracts still play out. But please, as a
coaching staff, I'm asking, don't waste this guy's talent. You know,
and don't don't make us have to make comments about
it in week six, week seven, like, well, why are
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they not getting him involved?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Here's what I will say. The last time the Cowboys
had this talented of a receiver as a number two
or whatever you want to call it, one A, one B, whatever,
and they've had this talented of a second receiver was
Amari Cooper. Cowboys at that time were putting up thirty
plus points a game. And so I think when you
give this quarterback that level of talent around him at
the wide receiver position, he certainly has shown that he
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has the ability to make it work and actually produce
in that way to show you the value of having
those kinds of receivers.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Well, also too on that point is even if Cooper
was like big in that room, Lamb was a baby
that year, you finally have an opportunity where you got
two guys in their absolute prime. CD is in his prime,
Piggings in his prime. Right so they're at the top
of their game right now. If you brin Schottenheimer, he
has no clue who I am. They care nothing about
what I gotta say. Come on, all you gotta all,
(07:21):
you gotta do as facts. All you gotta do is
be better than what Mike McCarthy rolled out last year.
And he's not here anymore, so I can kick him
all around the alarming rate of hitches, slants, or just
go ball.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
There's no variety in it.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
At least I can say Keller Moore got the best
out of the Eagles guys, or at least Shane got
the best out of the Eagles guys. How many times
did we watch games and go, man, why don't we
do this with CD lamb that's working, or this with
turping that's working, or this that's been working. And it's like,
in the middle of the game, we're doing stuff that
that's never worked.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Why are we doing this? If you're Brin Schottenheimer, keep
it simple. Do what works.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
Throw the ball, the pickings, throw a bottle lam fergus
is gonna be like, hey, here, thought about it, ferguson
follow the game plan. And I'm just a dude with
a camera and microphone. They don't pay me millions of
dollars to do this. They don't pay me millions of
dollars to do this. Keep it simple to.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
That point, how do you guys think they'll use Pickings
because we've talked, we've heard a lot about his ability
to go downfield. Is he a guy that maybe you
move around isy, a guy that, oh, the whole route
tree is available to him? Like, what have you seen
that suggests that gives you an idea of maybe how
the Cowboys will want to use him?
Speaker 6 (08:27):
Pickings said it perfectly. We are going to work off
each other. So they're gonna double team Lamb sometimes and
Pickings gonna get a one on one with some dude
that they have no faith in, some some some miscellaneous
cornerback too, and that's where your one on one is
gonna come from. Then when they shade safety is over, Okay, cool,
Now the middle of the field is open.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
All right.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
Well, we're gonna go away from Pickings a little bit now.
And there's been this thing where the defenses may not
go for Dak's wide receiver, but they'll go for Ferguson
because they know that Dak likes tight end. Cool, let's
kind of move towards tight end a little bit, al right. Well,
see thee Lambs just running over here by himself. Now,
I think that they have to work off each other.
And Brian makes a fantastic point because me and him
podcasts about this all the time. There may be games
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where Pickings only gets three targets. It just wasn't in
the cars for you that day. They're just doubling you today.
And they said, you know what, we just not gonna
let Pickings beat us today. Schottenheimer, Pickings, whoever, Clayton, Adams, Dack, CD.
They all got to work together, be like, hey man,
sometimes this is gonna happen. CD has to sometimes go, look,
I know I'm lambing, I'm making all the money and
I'm the guy. But they won on one and Pickings
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over there and we won by thirty. I think everybody's
got to come together and have an understanding. Dead said
this a long time ago. Hey, look we winning. I
only got five catches in seven yards, but boy we won.
If these wide receivers, quarterback staff, everybody can just fall
into that kind of line as long as we win.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Cool Put him in a bunch of formations and let
him scatter out of that because he has a feel.
This guy has a feel for how to play across
the field, how to play. You can watch some of
the most successful plays there with the Steelers and stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
And they did.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
They get in a bunch formations. They bring him to
motion across and then it's one on one, or they
bring him into a bunch of formation, scatter that and
now there's confusion in the defense about who's got who.
And now he's running with that speed, that quickness, his
ability to get away and separate. Yeah, anything, anything that
you could do where you have him play on the
move I think is a real advantage because of his
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ability to catch the football and his ability to catch
it on the move without slowing down. He could catch
the ball at full tilt and and make plays for
you that way. So just find ways to put him
with if you want to, if you want to stack
him in there with you, and make these defenders have
to deal with him and Lamb together and maybe Tolbert
in there.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
That's what you have to do.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Make them have to make a decision of how to
play him and give him a running start, you know,
with his ability to get into route.
Speaker 9 (10:47):
You know what I love And something that CD has
already talked about and also Pickens yesterday, is just the
chemistry that they already have. They've had a working relationship.
They used to work out together a few times during
the off season training together with other receivers, so they
know each other already, and that I think helps a
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ton just to get the process started a lot faster
in that way. And another thing to know. I know
there was one of the shows where he got signed,
where the Cowboys made that deal, where we talked about
the attitude and all. He came here yesterday obviously first
day smile. Nothing has happened yet, but big old smile
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with a great attitude, saying he's just a chill guy
and everything is you know, happy, happy, and I know
we'll get into the ltas and something. But something that
I noticed and you continuously see it is the environment
that Brian Schottenheimer has created and continues to create for
the team that I think is just it. It's infectious,
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like it just carries and everything. It's just a completely
and we'll probably talk about it later. Very different than
previous years.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
As far as Pickens. He's not a bad guy. I mean,
his teammates love him. I mean, and if you're winning,
I'm I'm sure he's fine. But it's just all about
if you're a if you're a coach, and if you're Timeland,
like Tom's like, what sixty or something. Now he's an
older coach now, and maybe he doesn't have the patience
brind sixty one, Bryan sixty one, and you know, maybe
doesn't have to have the patience with you is right
now sixty one years old, trust me, man information. But
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you know, you know, maybe Thimland ran out of out
of patience here. You know, seanan En Hymn got a
got a point to prove, he got a decade or.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
You know what I mean, like, hey man, let's let's.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
Let's work on fifty year old. Yeah, yeah, you know
what I said. Fifty fifty year olds got different energy.
I guess Derek and Brian Brock. But if there's one thing,
because I don't want to just be super home or
everything's gonna be, you know, cool. Here, if there's one
thing that I have thought about as far as Dak
and Pickings, Dak normally throws the ball if you're wide open.
If you're not wide open, he's looking somewhere else. I
think Pickings is going to have to earn trust from
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Dak to where I may not look like I'm open.
There's a lot of film where pickingsally wasn't open, but
he's so physical fighting towards the football that he really
was open. Go back to Green Bay playoffs, Brandon Cooks,
Jyed Alexander and Cooks just couldn't run through him and
that kind of had to throw it anyway, but it
ended up being like a pick or whatnot. Maybe Dak
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didn't have faith in that throw because Brandon Cooks is
a little bity compared Pickens makes that catch. Pickens is
running through Gyr Alexander and he's making that catch. So
I think in camp in theese OTAs, I think they
just have to work on somebody being on George's hip,
George Pickens's hip and Dak just throwing the ball in
the way and bailed him out.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
One thing I will say about that and Dak, whether
he stros to guys that are not open, he did
pretty good with Dez Bryan and des Brian is not
a guy that traditionally was always getting open. He was
a guy that you threw the ball up to him
even though he had somebody on him. Dak figured out
a way to get him the ball. So hopefully we'll
see some of that same chemistry development with George Pickens.
All Right, We're gonna take our first breaks when we
come back. We got a lot to talk about, man.
(13:57):
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Speaker 3 (14:02):
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Speaker 5 (17:11):
I don't work here, man, there you do. Huh, yeah,
you do. I'm a friend.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
You're not gonna get a paycheck coming up here whenever?
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Speaker 3 (17:20):
He was so proud work, so proud of his paycheck.
You showed it before our show.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
He goes, look, see, it wasn't about the money, Brian,
it was I've been doing this for ten years.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Did you tell your mom how excited you were? Was
she happy for you? I tell my mom everything I know,
But was she happy for you? You were working with
the Dallas Cowboys?
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Yeah? Yeah, for sure, for sure, you know, and.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
And I don't even defences or prosecution wrest you. But yeah, man,
mother's happy for him. She probably grandmother's definitely watched. She
watched everything I do. Uh, we work for the Cowboys.
Maybe that paid me a million dollars one.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Maybe maybe nobody please move on.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
They pay bit checks a out here side on the
other side of it, that kind of money.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I've been here a long time with Derek.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, I'm seeing that much money together.
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We've we've spent that much wey together.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
But we have no no doubt.
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What's the rains man, We.
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Got a nice budget. All right, let's get into it.
Let's talk about as yesterday Cowboys had on field activities
and we got to hear from coach Shatti, we got
to hear from Dak. There were lots of lots of
talk around to them. Just what were your thoughts and
what were your impressions on just the general vibe of
what we were hearing from players, from coaches and maybe
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what we saw on the field with regards to this
team and their first availability on the field.
Speaker 9 (18:39):
Well, I'll start, you know, I'm like every year, by
the end of it, I'm like next year, I'm not
buying it again. You ain't fooling me again, it's not happening,
and I'm not saying it's currently happening.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
But hear me out, dudes busted through the.
Speaker 9 (18:59):
Try to fall in love again. I am not trying
to fall for it and I'm not trying to sell
you guys anyway. Listen, listen, here's my problem. When when
you're around this and you start seeing the changes and
you start seeing new things, you're like it. Let me
just say, Brian Schottenheimer, he's making it very hard for
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you not to like what he's doing. He's making it
very difficult because you walk in there and and I'm
not and I'm just trying to say that. Last year
the culture was terrible. There was some division. No, there
was some division that started happening. You know when things
when you're losing game, obviously people are mad. It happens.
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But the point is this year he's so focused on
building that culture, building those relationships, making sure that they're
a family, that they're all in this together. We're all
not working for you, but we're working with with each
other and making things happen. So an example that people
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brought up yesterday was even the music that was being
played a practice me I don't pay attention to music
that much, but it was clearly big enough to where
people were talking about it and in the playlist. There
was a pin pound table inside the locker room. Let
me give you, guys an illustration of years past. Nothing
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has happened like that before. They're throwing a ball into
the dirty trash can, like not the trash, but the
dirty clothes, the dirty laundry where they all are sweaty clothes,
and then they go and get the ball and they
play basketball in that like that, but a pain pound
table in the middle of the locker room. Initially, I
was like, what is going on here? But then you
(20:44):
see the guys playing and even after a practice, they're
in there playing with each other, having the laughs, and
that's what builds chemistry, that's what builds those relationships. So again,
the way that the players are speaking about this new
changing coaching staff, the way that DoD has expressed also
that there's a lot of understanding from like the communication
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is there and the vision is there. They're all in sync.
And again, whether or not that's going to translate on
the field when it comes to actual season games and
all that that is yet to be seen. We'll see
what happens. But right now it's it's I'm falling. I'm
falling for it again.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
Laid kool aid, and I wasn't happiest in the world
about the you know, signing or what you know. I
just think the Cowboys didn't do a great job of
just you know, exhausting the options. Right it was like,
all right, we're just gonna bring in shot in just
go from there. But the more you listen, the more
you just listen to the players respond, you listen to
him talk, and you listen to what Jerry has said
(21:46):
about him man, and you just really start to think, now, like, hey, man,
you really just got to motivate the guys and keep
everything on on on track, and you in charge of
hiring and things of that. I think one of the
biggest things Scheinenheimer's done already he just didn't hire friends
of his or just hire people that just needed jobs
when the rent was doing just ninety year old men
(22:06):
that needed something to do. He hired some of the
best people in the business, and he's gonna need that help,
like scheme wise or whatnot. But besides that, it seems
like the young fifties Derek sorry, is doing better than
the old sixty year old man. Hey shoddy, what you
got in that cup? A shoddy? That means something, you
know what I mean? And it's something small, but just hey,
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coach got swaying, coach da da da da and Mike
McCarthy doing that goofy little thing that he did.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
That ain't you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
That's not relating to these guys. Or no, we're not
gonna play music loud, that's not that's not that's not
relating to these guys. That's why, you know, I think
old old coaches they get kind of stuck in their
ways and they just kind of do things that they
want to do and we're not gonna play me. I
think Shoty's able to adapt. Hey Dak, what do you
think we can do here to make x y Z work?
Hey CD, what do you think? Oh y'all want to
listen to music? Play Kendrick, I don't care, play some
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play some m you know. I think he's I think
that that alone makes him a much better higher than
some old coach with you know, championships or like, you know,
just please go ahead.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I know I was gonna say this and to that point,
I think when you talk about the process that the
Cowboys went through and making us higher, one of the
things I've heard that I think we're all starting to
see now is I think the Cowboys. I don't think
the Cowboys when they initially sat down with Shaddy, we're
even thinking about him as a head coach. They were
talking to him as a coach that was on the staff.
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They're trying to get a feel, and I think they
woke up two or three interviews later with him that
weren't scheduled and were like, Man, this dude's got something different.
This dude is different. He's he's got something like there's
something here. And I think we all have gone through
the same process that I think the Cowboys went through
when they were going through the interview process, which is
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we've started to see these little things that say this
dude is different. And honestly, last week when we did
the live stream with Micah and CD and Osa and Tyler,
I was on that cart when Shotty came up. What
happened before the cameras caught that moment is they were
basically like they were, oh, Shot He's over there. Like
they were like, hey, stop, we want to talk to Shady,
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and so Shody sees him, like what's up, and he
gets off of his cart, comes over. They have a
whole conversation before they got to the famous line now
about the Shady and they're just talking like they are
not talking as coach to player and player to coach,
they're talking as just men that are.
Speaker 9 (24:25):
Hanging out here. Comes there, but it's like that.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
That's when I started saying there's something different here. Because
I'm also a big believer in culture. I think it
makes a huge difference in a work I don't care
what the work environment is work environments, if you have
the right culture, you will get way more done and
you'll be way more effective. That doesn't mean everything's gonna
always be perfect, doesn't mean you're always gonna win. It
means you'll be in the best position to win, and
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when things go wrong, you'll be able to weather storms
because you have great culture. And I think because he
leans so much into that culture, I think players are
certainly minding what we're seeing. What I'm seeing from players
behind the scenes, in the way they're responding to us,
in the way they're responding up to their other teammates,
says to me, something is different going on here. And
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that's not a knock on McCarthy or anybody else. It
is saying Shoddy is doing something different and this team
is responding right now.
Speaker 9 (25:20):
Can I get I know, Brian, you want to talk
about it, Let me give you a quick story, another story.
This is not something that was very publicized or anything,
but when he got higher, and this was something very refreshing,
very new to us because we haven't experienced that at all.
He took the time out of his day to show
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up early in the morning with bags of water Burger
breakfast and went around the whole office, desk by desk,
introduced himself, shook hand with employees that literally have nothing
to do like on hands with football or anything. This
is all on this side of the building.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
With marketing everybody.
Speaker 9 (26:02):
He went around the whole building and shook hands with everybody,
introducing himself, and it was one of those things like wow, again,
you're not just hearing it with words, you're actually seeing it.
You're seeing it happen. And it was And I told
him that day, I said, hey, you know what, I
personally really appreciate this because we've never had an experience
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like this. For someone to value this like this side
of the building in that way is very new to us.
And I just I love everything that he's doing and
so far based on this time of the year he's doing,
he's going above and beyond in my opinion, to what
he can actually do this time of the year.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
That's awesome. Man, we got a coach. Go bro.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Yeah, I'm gonna take this in a different direction. The
most encouraging thing to me yesterday was your quarterback wasn't limited.
And you know, we all talked about the injury and
how it really you know, the season was not great
last year, and then you know he gets hurt and
it becomes even worse and you know you are what
you are at that point. But the thing that was
most encouraging to me is because on our station on
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one O five three, the fan Stephen Jones was talking about,
you know, well Dak might be in the OTAs in
the mini camps, might be limited. Well, he wasn't limited yesterday.
He went out there and did what he had to do.
He was moving around well physically, he looks fine. Dak
is always going to be in the best shape he
could be and going in him and Britt Brown. They
put in the work.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
You know.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
That's the encouraging part of it to me that when
you got a guy like new players, You've got a
new right guard, you've got new wide receiver, you've got
new players. You know, Dak being out there and being
a part of the offense and just from the jump
and not all of a sudden that you know, nothing
against Joe Milton. It's nice to see Joe Milton out
there throwing the ball, but this team is going to
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come and go as that quarterback is. And the fact
that you know, we're not having to worry about him
in these OTA Mini camp practice and what's his status
going to be for training camp. You know, you could
get this thing started now. He could be in the
dockyard throwing with pickings, thrown with lamb. He can do
all the things necessary to get this offense up to
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speed by the time we get to get the ox art.
That's probably the most encouraging thing that I've seen from
them from the OTA's Mini camp so far after just
only one day.
Speaker 9 (28:17):
Another thing real quick overshown. Y'all better watch out, y'all
keep an eye on him. The way he's walking around
that guy. I don't know what he has in his system,
but I think he he might not necessarily be completely
out like we think he might be for the season.
He's looking good. So the way he's doing his recovery,
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he's doing a really great job. You just see him
walking around and physically he looks good.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
That's what happens. We work really hard a rehab, like
really really hard a rehab.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
It's important you.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
Trust Britt Brown in the whole process. And I ain't
gonna say nothing now, No.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
It's it's facts. I think they have. They have guys
in that training room that will get players back and
ready to play. You've gotta follow the process, and not
everybody always does it that way, but I think when
you're committed to it, and certainly he has youth on
his side, I'll tell you that when you're young, below
that fifty eight, you can thirty recover. You can at
thirty two. You might not even be able tocover like that.
(29:15):
But I'm just saying like, when you're young and you've
got the right people around you and giving you the
right information and you're following it, I think you can
see some really great things happen. We're gonna take our
final break. We will come back. I want to get
some reaction from you guys on the schedule. Schedule was
released last week. It's some interesting things for the Cowboys.
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Welcome back. We are in the final segment of the
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Let's Talk schedule. Schedules came out last week and a
lot of interesting things for the Cowboys. But here's how
I'm going to frame this conversation with you guys. I
think there are three things I've identified on this schedule
that are, let's call it challenging, and I want you
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guys to tell me which of the three you think
is most challenging. Cowboys, for the first time in the
history of the NFL, have four counted four Thursday games.
There is a late stretch of games versus twenty twenty
four playoff teams. That'll be Philadelphia, Kansas City at Detroit,
Minnesota Chargers at Washington. That'll be six of their last
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seven games all in a row. Or the stretch of
three games and eleven days when you have a Monday
night are at Las Vegas and then a Sunday game
against Philadelphia and then a Thursday game against Kansas City.
Which of those three do you think is going to
be the most challenging.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
You got old veterans, but you have some young guys
on your team, so I think Dak will be fine
with the you know, three games in this you know
time here or these like you know the the veterans
have seen nonsense like this before. We got a Thursday
and another Thursday, and a Monday and a Thursday a game.
But if you're like Booker at the end of the season,
how do you feel or like Jada and Bluer, like,
you know, some of these young rookies, some of these
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young guys that they don't have the main body yet
to deal with this stuff. And now we're on a
short week after you know, like it's week thirteen now,
and I got another game in four days, So I
think that's gonna be something tough for the young guys
to deal with. But of course, playing tough teams towards
the end of the year conference games, of course, that's
that's that's something that's gonna.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
Be tough for you. But they're they're all they're all
crappy equally.
Speaker 7 (33:59):
Me.
Speaker 9 (34:00):
My beef with the NFL is one first week week one?
What are we doing? That's next? That's next? But the
first week one, I mean, sure, let's find out right
off the bat, how we those people like, no, no,
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give us some breathing room, Like we have so many
moving pieces, so many new pieces to the game that
I'm like, that's going to be challenging for the Cowboys
Week one away from home, have to put together a
great game against you know, but you got all.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Training camp to do it, right. I actually thought that's
a that's a value because basically you get weeks to
be able to prepare for that first game.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Right.
Speaker 9 (34:49):
We know training camp practices is not the same as
real game.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
No get that, I'm just saying, But again, it's.
Speaker 9 (34:54):
What's going to happen in the preseason. Here's my question.
Is Shottenheimer going to play some of the starters in
the preseason or not. That's I'm I'm really curious to
see because I think the opponent in Week one has
to change your strategy of what you do during the preseason.
There's no way you sit out all those guys those
three weeks because of who you're playing Week one now
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the rest. When you talked about that stretch later in
November December, I'm okay with that because this is what
we do. This is what football is. You gotta play
those games. And if I mean it is what it is,
let's just play the games. At that point, you hope
that you're not attacked and dealing with a bunch of injuries. Again,
you hope that by that time, actually your team now
(35:38):
is it should be what it's gonna be. Uh And
then my next beef number two, that's just number two,
beef number two. That was one.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
Oh goodness, bief number two.
Speaker 9 (35:56):
I'm sweating Washington in this Washington in Christmas. Like we
think differently because obviously in the NFL is a business.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
It is we gotta.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Worked a lot of holidays. Come on, we gonna.
Speaker 9 (36:14):
Play Thanksgiving every week every year. That's fine. We love it.
We love Thanksgiving. That's a tradition there. But no go
to Washington out of all places. I mean, you don't
really know. I'm taking that one.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Oh ay. When I saw the schedule, I was like,
ambring going to that?
Speaker 9 (36:30):
But that's so messed up. Like Washington is one of
the worst places to like. That stadium. It's just terrible.
That stadium is terrible. It is.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
I haven't been.
Speaker 9 (36:40):
Don't don't.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Again.
Speaker 9 (36:44):
That one is more than a personal thing the rest
of them.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
I can't wait till the county.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
You don't work there. I'm not.
Speaker 9 (36:53):
No, that's it. That one was more of a person,
you know what.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
I'll say this so about the Christmas Day game and
This is my only thought about the schedule right now,
that right there is going to be for a playoff spot. Yeah,
Christmas night in at Washington. You know it's going to
be one way or another. Dallas's season is going to
come down to a Thursday and Derek, get your crew
ready for sounds of the sidelines, oh yeah, and deep
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blue on how this game and how it all transpired
on a Christmas night and maybe snow in the air
and all that stuff. That game right there is going
to be whether you get in the playoffs or not.
That's just my as I look at the schedule. There's
a lot of things you're going to have to navigate here.
That's probably going to be the most important one you're
going to have to navigate if you want to get
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in the playoffs. And not even saying about winning the division.
I'm just saying getting into the playoffs. This is going
to be a tough year for anybody in the NFC East.
The schedule against the NFC North and the AFC West
is not going to be easy. And then now mix
in the games because you finish first or second, you know,
now you're you know you're playing other teams as far
as that, and who knows if you go out and
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find a way, you get off to a good st
in the season and you go and play like crap
against the Jets who are one and four at the time.
You don't know how this scene is going to play out.
But the one thing I do know, I think that
Commander's Game Christmas Night is going to come down to
whether you get in the playoffs or not.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yep, I think I will say it right now. I
firmly believe that game will break records when it comes
to the amount of people that will tune in to
watch it. And we're talking about him to right, so literally,
people will get up, they will open presence with their families,
and then they will sit down to watch this game.
And especially if both these teams are in playoff contention,
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that game will break records. I put money on it
that game will break records. Is the renewal of a
rivalry that has been missing for a long time. But
you're talking about a Washington team that's gotten a lot
better over the last year, and I think a lot
of people feel like Dallas has better now than they
were last year. If both those teams are in contention,
that game will break records.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Yeah, word is Mike Zimmer will come back and be
the defensive coordinator for that game because he has a
handle on how to play that quarterback.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
It took Marcus Marioda to come into game for the
Command to get the victory on the final week in
a game they were trying to win, you know. So yeah,
it's gonna be a tough one also too.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
Let me just say games that are that are just
weird looking that are probably gonna matter later on are
Cardinals and Packers. And I think the Cowboys are I
would say more talented than Arizona right now.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
But but but those those.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Games, last time we went up there, it didn't matter.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
Those games just are goofy for no reason. I even
think you technically can beat Green Bay. The Cowboys just haven't. Yeah,
you know, so she did when I was there, when
you were there, you know, back in the seventies or something.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Brian problem.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
I need to walk away from this thing, Brian problem,
Brian Problem. Need to go back with the Packers.
Speaker 6 (39:43):
But those rights, those Packers dot Com Conference games just
weird games.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
I just don't like them looking at them.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
You know, it's funny.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
The one game on the schedule that I absolutely thought
they were gonna lose. Just I'm gonna say it's I
just you know when you play that game, win loss,
win loss. When lost that game, the game at Denver,
I just they have not wonted Denver since nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
It's a hard place to play.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
It is that last time, well the last time you
guys went there when I was back here. But then
we have a weather delay for like an hour and
then in the eight yards and fell off.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Yeah, that that game right there to me, I just
immediately saw it at Denver.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
I just put an l right next to it. Please
prove me.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
But I will say this, when you look at those
two games, particularly Denver and Chicago, those are two games
I was quickly going to look at when I got
the schedule.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Was the time of year?
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yeah, what time of year? And to get those in
September and October, Yeah, that's a win.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
That's oldest if I've ever been in my life. Was
at Chicago too.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
That game was miserable and I wasn't out there on
the field the whole time. It was miserable, and so
I look at this, and I'm just like they won
from from the standpoint of those two games being played
at the time of the year they are. And also
Amber you talked about the fact they have all these
new pieces. When you look at their early part of
the season, they really have only Philadelphia and Green Bay
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in the first what's that six weeks? Uh, four of
those other games that they'll play in the first six
games all teams that are not were not playoff teams
last year. So you got actually some.
Speaker 9 (41:12):
Time you got to November that you should be should
be ready, but you have some time there to kind
of get your get things going, get your guys in,
get the ready, and get them on.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
The same page so that by the time you hit
the tougher part of your schedule, you're ready to go.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
I hated this looking about the early part of the schedule,
the fact that you had three noon games, like in
the first six weeks.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
You don't like the noon games.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
I love the noon game, but you stacked them all together.
You know, I was I was thinking, give me a
noon game, give me three games, a TV game or whatever,
give me another noon game, you know, kind of give
me a little bit of a break. To like especially
give me if you want to give me noon game,
give me noon game on East Coast and let me
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travel back where I have it, you know, where I
have a chance. Don't maybe come home and you know
at four in the morning or something like that. I
always look at those like like, for example, the Jets game, great,
that's a noon game.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Travel back for the team will be good.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
Carolina another East Coast game, good travel back. You know,
noon games on the East Coast I think are a
really good advantage to get your team back home at
a decent hour so you can have a Monday to
get things kind of organized instead of rolling in at
four thirty five o'clock in the morning like we normally do.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Yeah, I'm just gonna say right now, Amber, you go
out on Christmas, so day after Christmas you're hosting, because
I'll be at home with my family opening present. So fair,
right off?
Speaker 9 (42:34):
Fair, I'll take that, all.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Right, Good y'all. Remember she said it the day I
have a cris That would be the day we have
a show on the twenty sixth.
Speaker 9 (42:42):
Oh, I can't make it, you can make it the
twenty six.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
The twenty six was all with.
Speaker 5 (42:46):
Twenty six Christmas is all week Christmas.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
You know we don't do vacation. I mean, you know
we don't do a holiday's.
Speaker 5 (42:53):
Ryan, I gotta check you in my mind.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Seeing we don't do we don't do holidays and bubbles
up during the season. We don't do holidays.
Speaker 9 (43:02):
At Which is the funny thing every time we get
the schedule is I'm not looking at, oh, how the
team is gonna play level, I'm looking at how is
my life affected? Like I love all those Thursday night
games the Monday, I love it than we go.
Speaker 5 (43:17):
To the week, so we get no breaks on the break.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
By the time we get to training camp, we don't
take a break until the Cowboys.
Speaker 9 (43:24):
Welcome to the NFL.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
It's true. That's how we do Come on, man, you
signed up for eighteen.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
That's how we do it.
Speaker 9 (43:30):
Are you in it or are you not?
Speaker 2 (43:32):
If you're I'm seeing here all right, I appreciate you guys.
We'll be back next week. We'll have more to talk about.
We'll have some more ot as next week, so we'll
talk about that again next week.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
Till then.
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