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I thought you.
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all the time about?
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All right?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Let's uh, let's let's first start.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
We got we're gonna get into the Carolina offense versus
Dallas defense. Uh, but today, before we get there, I
want to start with, uh quick roster move Cowboys made yesterday.
Julius Wood, who was a guy that back if you
guys can remember back that far last year, he was
at twenty four twenty fourst training camp. He was a
guy that was their safety and and and.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Turned a few heads.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
I thought he was a guy that a lot of
people kind of like coming out of training camp as
an undrafted free agent.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
What were your thoughts on him?
Speaker 6 (01:50):
Do you have any thought do you remember him during
camp or what the Cowboys might be expecting, how they
could use him if he can really jump in and
be of use to them right now while Molie Hooker's out.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
This is a thing by Julius Wood and the Julius
Wood types. He's one of those box safeties that kind
of walks down and you know, does the tackling stuff,
the run game stuff, but you really don't want him
one high too much. And typically what happens is is
when you bring in a guy like that, you find
many other guys like that. So a guy like Elijah
Clark that can do that but also give you other
you know, range and things like that. You know, you know,
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now job titles and stuff like that gets a little weird.
But he's like a Donald type guy. He was around,
but he did make a bunch of plays in these games,
so that kind of got you know, that got him
a little hype. But you can only carry so many guys.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
But let me ask you this, do you guys have
questions now about the health of Hooker.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Well, they put him on IR so he has to
sit at yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Four weeks.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, maybe that's.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Kind of I know that, I know that, the IR
thing and all that, but I just wonder going forward,
is that something you know that or they just protected themselves.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Donvin Wilson had a shoulder at the end of the game.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
How did that?
Speaker 5 (02:53):
How did that end up?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah? I didn't hear any more about that, to be
honest with.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
You, because he would be a guy that fits the
Donald things. So if anything is wrong with him, that'll
be Markue's Bell and Julius Wood that fit those similar
kind of types. And Clark will be the free safety
kind of guy as well.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Hook res Aert. Yeah, I just I think I think
he nailed the guy. I think that was really physical,
physical player though to that guy that was always around
the ball and stuff. So yeah, it's up the middle.
I mean they're trying, they're trying to find things to
to to you know, make this defense a little bit better.
I think that's where the biggest problems have been. I mean,
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we look at the defensive tackle room. It seems like
with you adding you know, with Clark that that seems
to be a positive. You're getting some stuff, You're getting
some you know, great really I think some very good
play from Solomon Thomas. But yeah, the middle linebacker situation,
trying new guys, trying things at safety. You know, they've
got to get better up the middle of this defense.
And maybe Wood's not the answer, but I mean it's
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just something that they have some familiarity with, something different,
so might as well give it a go.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
Thinking about the safety position. Obviously, this last game, Janye
Thomas was in from MALIEK.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Cooker.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
What were your thoughts on his play this last week?
Did you see anything that was an improvement over what
you had been getting before?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Was it about the same? How would you assess his play?
Speaker 4 (04:11):
I'll tell you what Whyya is gonna sound real crazy
because he played safety, but he was deepest of the deep.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
He did that job.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
He's like, y'all ain't getting past me.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
He did, he did, but y'all love yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
And there was a couple of times where you know
he saved you know, touchdowns where you know it could
have been a bigger play in the run game, he
kind of came down and made a play or a
pass the game. So, h wyya is he's doing his job.
And look, hey, Vosch, what's so special by doing your job?
Hey man, it's been a crazy couple of weeks where
people haven't always been doing their job. So when we
see people doing their job, it's a positive step.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah. I think the thing is with Thomas, you're gonna
get a guy that I think is very comfortable playing
the back and playing up and so it still gives
you that flexibility if you're going to play some more
man coverage. What they did about seventeen perc sent more
in this game. So he gives you the flexibility to
be able to play him in coverage and you don't
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have to worry about things there. And then his ability
also to see things, to react to things. You know,
he's a very aware player, and I appreciate that about
him because he is not going to give up stuff
over the top. And he didn't have to make a
whole lot of range plays the other day. But you know,
and you're about to play a team. We'll get into Carolina,
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They'll try and throw the ball deep, but they have
no success doing it. And so but you're gonna need
somebody like that Dallas to struggle with that ball over
the top, and you know, he's a guy that's generally
not going to let that happen.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
Looking at our inside ops, when we look at the
Carolina Panthers, they are right now two and three. They
are coached by Dave Canalis, who is kind of an
interesting guy to me. This is only a second year
as a head coach. Last year they went five and twelve,
so not a successful year. Before that, he had only
been an offensive coordinator for one year with Tampa Bay
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in two thousand twenty three, and in that year, just
looking at some of the numbers, they didn't have a
particularly great year offensively. They were ranked twentieth in the
league in points, twenty third in.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
The league in yards. This year, they're averaging.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
Twenty twenty point four points per game that they're scoring
and averaging twenty three point eight points per game against
what other teams are scoring against them, ranked twenty fourth
and nineteenth, respectively. What are your thoughts on Dave Canalis
and what he's doing. I guess from a schematic standpoint
(06:31):
from building this team standpoint there in Carolina, Carolina, I.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Don't think they have the talent to do anything that
he's that he's trying to do. If the offensive line
is a mess, the wide receivers can't get going because
the quarterback doesn't always see things well, he's short, so
maybe you gotta change things that you may want to
do on your offense. You know, Brian's old man. He
likes the big, tall quarterback that could see over everything.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Sometimes short people nothing against him.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
It's just a nast football league where everybody's you mungs,
I'm short relative to them, but I may be bigger.
Theybody on his hall, not Brian, because Brian's tall. But
you know, it's kind of hard to know what he
brings to the table because you know, these guys just
haven't gotten things going.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Now.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
That's where I kind of give or not give coaches
that much leeway because I can see what the Colts
are doing with Daniel Jones and go, hey man, that's
a dude that hasn't been all there great in the league,
but you kind of figured things out. Michael Pittman's to
do it over there. Not the greatest pedigree of a
wide receiver, but they can figure things out over there.
But Carolina just hasn't figured things out on offense. So
based on what I've seen, I haven't seen a whole
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bunch of offense get moves.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Yeah, you know what he made his money initially dealing
with a short quarterback and making it work. And that's
Baker Mayfield. They're in Tampa. You know, you look at
what he was able to do and then now he
is working with a shorter quarterback and it has not
it has not translated. He is a very he could
be very innovative. I think that Vach is onto something
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with the way that they've tried to address it through skill.
They've they've tried to the problem is their offensive line.
They've tried, they haven't hit on the offensive line, and
it's kind of been of a a situation where we'll
get into that. It's just not a very good group
and that's been a real struggle. And then you've got
a quarterback that tends to not be able to see,
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and now you have pressure and he's dealing with pressure
and not being able to see, and then they can't
get the ball out like they need to. But it's
interesting how they try and run the ball. If you
watch the Dolphins game, you'll be very impressed. If you
watch everything else, you're left to being like, oh, well,
this is just a pretty ordinary team running the football.
They got after the Dolphins, when they got down seventeen
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to nothing, they started running the football and they were
really they got very good at it. I think that
will kind of be their plan again this week. But
he has just not it's not as creative of an
offense that we saw with what he was able to
do in Tampa with Baker Mayfield. It was a.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
Lot of that he saw in that running game because
they were down steven team nothing. Most in most instances,
you wouldn't expect the team to start running the ball
or running the ball effectively at that point because typically
you think they just got hurry and get points on
the board, and so they start passing a lot.
Speaker 8 (09:10):
More.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
That being said, do you think a lot of that
success they saw was because Miami was playing the type
of defense where they were more concerned about protecting against
big plays and it allowed more holes for the run game.
Or do you think it was just literally they were
doing just a really good job of running the ball.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
I think Miami's getting ready to quit and the head
coach might be getting fired.
Speaker 9 (09:29):
Song.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Oh wow, they probably gonna be getting rid of some
of those guys pretty soon.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
Breaking, breaking, breaking.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Yeah, yeah, well it's according to my sources, not I'm
just playing.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
But yeah, they.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Don't have a phone like that. No no, no, no, no, they
got a gang of seven.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
But the but the I got a gang seven age
and nine.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
The league shout out of the foot field still, but
you know the the Dolphins went up early in that game. Yeah,
I don't want to just you know, chalk it up
till they got comfortable because they they got a lead.
But when the the Carolina Panthers decided that they were
going to run the football, and it's probably because they
can't pass the football. That's been happening for five games now,
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they just found success running it, and it just kept
running it. It didn't look like the Dolphins were Oh
my god, we're just playing a different kind of defense.
They tried to stop the run, they just couldn't. They
were flying around all over the place. And this offensive line,
who hasn't really driven anybody off the ball all year,
was driving the Miami Dolphins off the ball. And I
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can't imagine. That was just deflating. And by the time
it was all over, Rico dadda like a damn Pro Bowl.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yeah, that's the thing. It came down to. The Dolphins
are just a bad tackling football team, you know. But
let's give Carolina some credit. When they were coming off
the ball, they were winning the line of scrimmage. There
were several times where Dolphin defenders, defensive linemen were turned.
They ran the ball a couple of different ways. They
ran it on the edge, they went with toss, they
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did it inside. Every way they wanted to run the ball.
They were having success. Rico Dowdle We all understand him.
He has the ability to be a physical ball carer.
He can make people miss initially and then he gets
into the open field. And there were several times where
he had runs that were going to be two three
yards and all of a sudden, it turns into ten
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fifteen yards because the Dolphins inability to tackle. So you know,
when you start to talk about with Rico, he's right
abound where we thought he was when it comes to
successful runs. That four plus he was doing it last
year for the Cowboys. That's what he's capable of doing,
is taking the ball and then getting you four five yards.
You know, he gets tackled and now you're kind of
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standing ahead of the change right there. So this is
this is I think, kind of a plan going forward.
You know. With with Chuba Hubbard, he's we're going to
talk about him, he's dealing with a calf injury. They
tried to play him the game, he couldn't play in
the game, or the week before he tried to play
in the game, couldn't finish the game, and then he
had to sit out. And they're saying that maybe they're
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gonna give him a little bit more rest. So it'll
probably be the Rico Dawdles show coming up here against
the Cowboys in Charlotte Dallas.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
Question, real quick, little bit off topic, but Brian, I
know this season you've been kind of leaning into the
whole theory of who has the most pressure like the
most desperate team. So where do you feel right now?
Who who is currently the most desperate.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Team for the Well, Carolina won last week, you know,
and Dallas get So you've got two teams feeling you know, Dallas,
I think that if you had to say a team
that this is where I don't know FOT will agree
with me on this or not. I kind of feel
like that Dallas is desperate in this way. If you're
a Dallas Cowboy fan, you want them to continue to
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play desperate, if you want them to go make a trade,
that's just me. I feel like that if they need
to keep winning, you need to keep desperate to get
wins to maybe convince general manager and front office too.
Let's go see and let's see what happens within the conference,
and let's see what happens within the division. You know,
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if all of a sudden, Philly starts to falter, you
get a chance to play the Commander next week, maybe
you get a win there. Find ways be desperate, be
a desperate team to win these games in order to
try and get the front office to maybe swing and
make a big deal here to kind of put you
into into another another level. That's that's where I think
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the desperation is right now for this football.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Teach also too Brown on the On that point, the
games that the Cowboys lost are conference games, So in
the grand scheme of things, you don't want that to
come back to bite at the end of it. So
Carolina is the NFC team you kind of want to
get one, you know, one one back up on.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
The conference there.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
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what y'all got, Carolina?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
What do you want to talk about? First? What do
you think? What do you think that your biggest concern
is about this Carolina Panther offense man?
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Brian, I went the next Gen stats. Yep, Derek Eagles
at Ambargarcia Brown Bros. I went to the next Gen Stats.
I'd just like to scroll down and see what the
rank is look like. It was like, boy, in terms
of rushing efficiency, Carolina was a was a top ten team.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
There was number ten. I said, you a damn lie.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Next next year and stats say, let me go back
to see what happened and play the game or what
if like what if the Miami game didn't happen, then
people like twenty seven way at the bottom. I say, cool,
that makes a lot more sense. I know there's a
lot of people's gonna fear Rico Dubtle for his Hu
Munggs game that they had last week. Just looking at
Rico over the other four games. If we're playing what
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if Miami doesn't exist? Twenty eight carries fifty five yards.
All right, Cool, that's how y'all been getting down. Even
Chowbeer Hubbard, who was starting fifty three, carries two hundred
and seventeen yards. Much better than Rico, but still not
gonna blow your way just watching these guys, Brian, if
they're gonna beat you, it's gonna be via run game.
But I don't even think the run game is all
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that all that spectacular. It may still be like the
second worst run game that you've gone against this year,
just playing just playing football math like that. Think the
Eagles were much better of a run team. I think
the Packers were much better. You know, Swift and the
Bears weren't good. You know, as much as we talk
about the Jets, they were a good running football team.
And it kind of showed you. I just don't think
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Carolina is all that good Versus the teams that you
did line up against. You look at run at the receivers,
you don't really see a whole bunch of numbers from
them because Bryce Young hasn't really been able to get going.
Tim McMillan is the main guy, and that's because that's
that's the only guy that can get things going.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
He's elite.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
So if Bryce Young does read things well and he
does throw it out there, it may be high, maybe low.
Tim McMillan does have the ability to go up and
get it. Shockingly, Carolina tries the D ball a whole bunch.
They don't hit it a bunch, but they try it
a lot. So if the Cowboys, if you give up
a bunch of D passes, our D pass defense would
be different than some other team's deep pass defense. So
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just because they're not hitting on it, don't mean that
they won't hit it versus us.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Brian brought us.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
Yeah, real quick, before you get too far there, I
want to go back to when you're talking about the
run game. I think one thing that we've seen this
year with the cow Boy specifically is the scheme and
how you run the ball. We saw with the Cardinals
last year and the year before. How you run the
ball is just as important as running the ball, just
your running game. What kind of scheme do they employ
and is it one that can cost problems to Dallas.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
I think they don't really know what scheme they want
to do. Houses go on the ball because because when
you go back and you break it down to the
point of go go just go watch ten yard runs. Yeah,
that'll give you an idea. If a team has a
bunch of ten yard runs, then you could kind of
get an idea. With the Panthers, what they do is
it's not all scrambles. So there might be say they
had fifteen ten yard runs, two scrambles and the rest
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are either the jet sweet variety or they hand the
ball off and then I've seen, you know, the Cowboys
run the play where they send most they send everybody
one way and flip it back the other way. Okay,
big run, and then they they'll do like they'll do
a zone run. They'll do you know where they where
they everybody steps to the right, they push and then
back makes a cut. That was kind of what they
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were doing against the Dolphins. So they're a little bit
of trying to It's not like, oh wow, look a
bunch of polls. They don't have pulling linemen. They ran
a crack toss, they got a ten plus yard run,
but you know, they didn't get the tackle out. It
was just the backs. You know, they cracked the end
and all of a sudden, there was just nobody on
the outside, you know, in the Dolphins game and now
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it's the run to the edge. So I think they're
a team that's trying to kind of find their identity
running the football. But the Dolphins game showed me one
thing is if I think they're going to try, I
think that if you look at what the Jets did
last week, and this is where I think Dallas might
be a little bit. You know that people we were
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worried about teams just lining up and throwing the football
against Dallas because of the lack of pass rush and
the problems in the secondary. Worried about that, and you
kind of saw that. You saw the Giants game on
it was it was throw the ball, throw the ball,
Throw the ball. This guy. You can't make this quarterback
look good. You just can't. You just cannot I mean,
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every metric tells you that things that Dallas are bad
at throwing the football, Carolina is just as bad. Carolina
has their problems when it comes to like Fox was
talking about, throwing the deep ball, maybe some of the
intermediate stuff, maybe some of the stuff underneath. That's about it.
That's about the stuff. I just think Dave Kanallis is
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going to watch that Jets tape and he's going to say, listen,
I'm scared of this Dallas offense right now. I'm scared.
But Dallas can do something offensively to take the running
game away from Carolina. They could absolutely do this, and
they did it with the Jets last week, and I
think they could do it again this week with Carolina.
We'll talk about Carolina's defense tomorrow, but the best defense
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of Carolina's strength, and I think it is running the football.
The Dolphins game showed me with Rico Dawdle and their
line coming off, and if you don't handle point of
attack blocks and you missed, which Dallas has done at
an alarming rate. You do those things, you're going to
encourage Carolina to run the football, even though this offensive
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line is probably built not in a good way. To
do either running the ball or passing the ball.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
So to that point, when you look at the season
so far, really Dallas has been a lot better against
the run earlier in the season. Now, a lot of
that can be pointed to, Well, maybe teams just didn't
feel like they needed to run because they just throw
all over you. But were there things last week that
the Jets do, particularly in their run game that you've
seen shades of that in what Carolina is particularly what
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Carolina did last week that makes you think this could
be a problem for Dallas because these are things that
are problems for them when they're trying to stop the run.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Cowboys didn't tackle last week. But I also think the
Jets didn't have a bad offensive line. I just want
to keep banging a point there. They can actually block.
The Cowboys just found some good passes right nowhere, but
just run game. Though the Jets do have a line
that can move bodies. The Cowboys just didn't always get moved.
But what happened was when when you know when it's
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time to come up and feel you miss tackles, if
everybody miss tackles from you, save these linebackers Kenner Clark
and not so much as he's a superstar, but you
have to tackle Ricodowdo you have to tackle Rico Dowd?
And the earlier you get the ricodowdo, the better chance
you have of bringing them down. If you let him
get ahead of steam and he's going, going, going, he's
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probably gonna, you know, take you all the way down
the field. Get to him early, bring him down and
make Carolina do something they don't want to do, which
is passing football.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, you know, if you watch Carolina and I talked
about a little bit of a grab bag of the offense.
So but if you really break down the Cowboys that
we do every week, we watched them a lot of
their runs. What was happened last week? It wasn't on
the edge, it was inside. It was they were blocking
Kenny Clark, they were blocking Solomon Thomas, they were blocking
oh so O Diggi Zua, they were getting up on
the linebackers. James Run, jumps around the block, Murray gets blocked.
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Now they're on the safety. The one thing Dallas has
struggled with this year is runs right at him. It
hasn't so much been stuff on the edge. It has
been right at him and what's Carolina's offensive line. Fotch
will tell you this is not a mobile offensive line.
This is not a big like like, oh, we're gonna
pull guys and get guys in space and all that.
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They're heavy footed guys, very very lungey, very heavy footed guys.
So what's there going to be their strength? Come off
the ball, try and get into blocks and then make
you have to defend the inside run. I could see
them doing that with Rico dow Look what Rico Dado
again did with the Cowboys. It wasn't anything on the outside.
A lot of the Rico Dawdle runs are in between
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the tackles. I can see the Dave Canellis attacking the
same way. After after watching what Dallas did last week
against the Jets, and then if you kind of look
it throughout the season, inside runs have been a problem
for this Dallas defense.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
So who's more important as far as has to play
better when it comes to defending that type of running game.
Is it your defensive tackles have to just not get
moved or is it your linebackers that need to fill
on a more consistent basis and be able to go
through blocks versus going around.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Linebackers for sure. Linebackers for sure.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
I feel like this d line does a decent job
of not getting driven three four five yards down. That's old,
that's old Cowboys. They haven't done much of that this
year at all. It's when you come up tackle, when
you come up bring somebody down, and that's that's Samborne,
that's Murray. Uh you know, and listen, we're talking about
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the young guys, the young linebackers. The young line is interesting.
They don't have a problem missing tackles. They have a
problem like not being around the tackle like you know,
live fouill get too wide sometimes right, James will coke
take some out the plays. You know, James will be
a little late. Samborn and Murray, you know, they'll know
the general direction to be at, but they'll miss once
they once they actually get there. This Carolina group doesn't
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like to block the second level. They can't stand block
and linebackers. So maybe they get a more free look
I would say, getting down there and tackling. But you know,
everything every way that the Panthers can't beat you in
the run game, it's on Dallas to not get beat
that way.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Yeah, I think to me, this you know, it's last
week was not one of the better games with Kenny
Clark playing. And Kenny Clark has played very well up
until this point. The pass rush stuff and all that
I think has been really really good. But last week
they got blocked as a front and it was a problem.
It really really was. Carolina is going to try and
block you the same way. I me personally nothing against
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Mazzie Smith. I think this might be a good game
to put jay Toya back inside and let a bigger bite.
Let Mazzie seems to have now had some problems playing
a little bit of the run defense stuff. Some of
the pass rush stuff been a little bit better. Winn
in a little bit more on that, But man, they're
going to need some stuff. They're going to need some
stoutness up front. And I just think this is the
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only way that Carolina can beat you in this game,
so offensively. See now, Tech they might get all of
a sudden, Dallas decides they don't want to they don't
want to pressure, they don't want to pressure Young and
he makes them throws like Caleb Williams may and all
of a sudden, Tech McMillan downfields making plays and Hunter
Renfro's making catches underneath and getting third downs. I don't
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see that as always happening because I think Dallas can pressure.
I think Dallas can put pressure on these guys offensively.
But all of a sudden this turns into hand the
ball off four yards, hand the ball off again, four yards,
third and Shorts hand the ball off again. We've seen
Rico Dawdle convert, you know. So that's You've got to
find a way to keep the Carolina Panthers behind the
chains and then make them want to throw the football
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against you, because if you don't, you make them very comfortable.
We saw again what the Bears were able to do
that nineteen play drive that they had all those runs.
You know, look at the Jets last week, take seven
minutes off the clock. You know, with the way that
they play, you know, Dallas can't get in one of
those games. They're gonna need to be pretty stout up
front against this crew.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
I don't mean to be super critical, but I'm I
don't feel very confident just yet about having the Dallas
Cowboys defense be able to shut somebody both. No, I
was going to say have both things of like pressureing
the quarterback of what we saw last week, while also
stopping the run. So when you say, looking into this game,
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based on everything that you're saying, you would dedicate most
of those resources into stopping the run rather than trying
to continue to Again, you can do both things, but
I just don't feel confident that they're there yet to
do both.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
One. I think Rico Dado can make your life pretty miserable.
I don't think Bryce Young can and I mean throwing
the football. So yes, and I think vouch is again
absolutely right about this. Is they tackling This game is
going to really come down to our two yard three
yard runs, two three yard runs. Don't let two three
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yard runs turn into seven eight ten yard runs. That's
this Ski. Carolina can't beat you throwing the ball, in
my opinion, No where they can beat you is if
they can hold the ball, finish drives, but just chew
up clock and you can't do anything to stop him
running the ball. That would be my biggest concern.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
Yeah, you're daring Bryce Young to beat you in this game,
because the thing about it is even if he gets
even if he hits some big plays, the reality is
he's got to keep up with Dak Prescott and the
way Dak Prescott and this offense are playing right now,
that's gonna be the that is the formula for almost
every team they're gonna play this year, which is put
pressure on their offense by your offense scoring a ton
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of points and moving the ball efficiently down the field.
And I think that's the part where I'm just like, yes,
I'm stopping the run.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
That's gonna be my primary concern.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
And if Bryce has a couple big plays, great, I
just I'm gonna bet on the fact he can't go
in a duel with Dak Prescott and come out on
the other end of that in a positive way.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Film and the metrics tell you this quarterback can't win
on most series. He can't. I mean, he misses passes,
he turns the ball over, there's problems that he has.
Pressure gives him problems. Pressure in the pocket causes turnovers
for him. Hell, he'll just damn drop the ball running
around back there. You get turnovers from him. So but
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if you go out there and allow allow them to
run the football and have success doing it and make
it very easy for Dave Canalis to call the game
that way, you know this It could be very very
difficult just for that aspect, because you might not have
as many. You might be used to having ten twelve
possessions a game. You might be two possessions short, you know.
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I mean that might be something that you have to
do with. It could be a very close game. I
just don't in my heart believe that this quarterback can
beat you throwing the ball. I just don't. But I
do feel like that they could keep it very very
close if your defense doesn't play very good run defense.
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All right, we're going to take our final break.
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We are in the final segment of the Break, live
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about Cowboys defense versus the Carolina offense.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Let's I'm not here for all that. Happy to be here.
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We're doing all right, We're doing fine, We're doing all right.
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Let's get some Let's get some matchups.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
I want to know about some specific matchups for the
Carolina Panthers offense versus the Dallas defense where fans should watch.
These are going to be the moments or the specific
matchups that you think will affect the outcome of this game.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
I thought you had a massive in particular, right cool,
So we can start with offense now.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
It just sounded like I thought he was gonna cool tackle.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
You can start with him.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
I came a quote new man. I was a big
fan of him coming out of the draft process. He
was he was a big dude, move well, great length. Uh,
you know you happen to you just never know what
happened to these guys once they once they get.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
To the lead.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
You know, you gotta work hard and it ain't going well,
it ain't.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
It ain't going well.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
I was watching them and when me and Brian look
at this offensive line say, hey, this group is kind
of sluggish, slow footed, I'm talking about him. He has
a lot of lazy sets.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
You know, if if if pressure is coming nine times
out of ten, by the numbers like seven out of ten,
I would say it's coming from the left tackle. Now
depends on what the Cowboys do here, flus were looking
back at you. If you want to build on what
you did last week, and we run some slants and
some gap exchanges and some stunts and all this kind
of stuff, there's a way that you could beat up
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on the Panthers front front five here. But if we
just want to rush four straight up and down just
like that, I came a quo who may have a
Pro Bowl dead against you, because that's just what the
Cowboys have been doing there. Guys, A look at the
bottom of sheet here. They got a character on the
practice squad named Michael Tarkien.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Never heard of. Brian bron hasn't neither.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
If we rush guys straight up and down, I don't
have faith that we can beat Michael Tarkien one on
one but if you did what you did last week,
we run some gap exchanges, stunts mix up the looks. Also,
you can muddy up the looks. So we talked about this.
Ambar was like, hey, can you rank the guys that
diagnosed defense really well? Bryce Young is in the lower
tier of guys that diagnose, you know, diagnosed defenses. So
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he's up there with Justin Fields and Jayalen Hursts. Even
though it sounds like I'm hating on her. Those guys
don't don't see very well. So what happens with Bryce
Not only can he not read it well, but he
doesn't stay on task because he can't improvise because he little,
so it ain't like he can find somebody new if
his number one guy is open, don't laugh because he little,
so he's not gonna find somebody different. He's gonna run
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around and try to get out of the pocket and
then maybe make something happen. So this another week where
you have to maintain rush lanes. And if you want
to do it versus iikem m'coneu'll he'll he'll let you
do it. So matchup wise. Dante Fowler right, one thing
that he did really well last week was like, get
off the ball quickly and whatever you gave him, whether
it be the inside and outside, he would attack that quickly.
It's a fantastic game that if Iike McCone wou come
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out here slow feet, you know, setting very deep, giving
you the inside, then that'll be a fantastic way for
Dante foul to beat up on him.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Yeah, they had like thirty three past attempts last week
and they give up twenty one pressures out of that.
I mean, this team will they just do not They
just do not do a very good job. They're just
not an athletic group. And there and it's and it
shows they they they want to try and do things
I think scheme wise. And then we talked about Dave
Canellis earlier what he would like to do. He just
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can't do it, you know. And they've tried to throw
resources at this offensive line. It hasn't worked out. It's
kind of a mismatch group. The tackles set extremely deep,
they give up pressures. You can carry him back to
the quarterback. You know, the quarterback can't see over rush.
So if you get him little, if you get him
in the middle of that pocket, he's gonna he's gonna collapse. Now,
Derek does remember a time he got him into the
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University of Texas and he escaped and won the game
for Alabama. But those days have to bring up stuff
if you and far between. No, those those kinds of
situations have not happened for this guy throughout the career.
So yeah, it is an offensive line that is much
maligned that they're going to try and run the football.
They're going to try and beat you up that way,
They're gonna try and be physical. Well, Dallas, allow it.
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I I like what everybody's talking about with flues. Can
you determine that this group are they going to try
and man stunts. If you've determined we saw last week
with the Jets, if they're going to man twist stunts,
you're gonna have opportunities to get guys home. This is not,
I repeat, not an athletic offensive line, Dallas. The one
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thing rushing the passer can do is they can put
some pressure on you with some movement, and I would
do that right from the jump. But it's going to
be about them being able to control that run. Don't
give Carolina any reason to run the football. Dallas's offense
has to help you out as well on that. But
you need to take advantage of this group because they're
just not as good as some of the groups you've
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played this year.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
It's just another matchup.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
And in terms of offensive line, you know, we talked
about the outside guys Brian Caide, Mays and Damian Lewis
are slower footed somehow than akem Is, so even if
they do get turned, I mean, I mean, that's a
way to get them. But I just feel comfortable with
guys like Osa Solomon Kenny Clark's line up and just
kind of running past those guys. You know, we talked
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about Mazia and do you play toeo whatever, We have
got a little more juice in terms of quickness and
moving forward right somehow because he's the bigger man, which
just shut out to him. I think this would be
a This would be a fantastic time to make him
active this week and let him pass rush a little bit.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
When you talk about Trayvon Diggs, it's interesting. Week before
last he's he doesn't start the game. He plays in it,
but doesn't start the game. Last week he played one
hundred percent of the snaps. How do you assess his
play last week, and obviously going into a game like
this where you have someone a young rookie, but guy
that certainly can go up and get the ball and
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can create some matchup problems in certain situations, how do
you assess where Trayvon is. I guess at this point
of the season.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
Trade did final last week, and that Jets wide receiver
corps wasn't really wasn't really a group that will win
a whole bunch of one on ones outside of Garrett Wilson.
So when Trey was not kind of around there, he
was doing his fine. He was doing his job just fine.
And you kind of get a similar group here. You know,
it's like McMillan and the rest of them just kind
of exists and treye the history says that you know
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these wire receivers that are bigger and not like quick,
and you know these like bigger moving guys.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
Trey has good days versus those guys.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
So if he's against McMillan, you don't want him, you know,
getting on like Renfro, Nothing like that. Renfro is quicker,
he's you know, down under. But Trey versus McMillan, if
that's the matchup that we're going to see for the
most part, you you would feel good about that matchup
because McMillan is not a terribly quick guy.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Yeah, I think with the thing with Trey is and
and we had some questions about health on but really
both corners. But you know, talking to people in the organization,
they're like, no, it's just these guys are fine. Everything's cool.
So it's now it's about going out and covering people.
We've talked about McMillan. If you're a fan of the
Draft Show, you know that the Dallas Cowboys were in
the mix of wanting to draft this guy.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
So it'd been nice to have them too.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
And the reason, well, your guy Booker probably wouldn't have
got picked.
Speaker 6 (40:49):
But right now you look at your wy receiver quote Groop,
and you're like, well, okay, put them to it.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Yeah. But the thing with I think with McMillan is
he's what we talked about in the Draft Show all
those days, is the ability to run down the field,
good route runner, can separate when he needs to separate,
can go and get the football. You know, we need
to see Dallas play some some tight man coverage that
they have to and and be able to you know,
if this, if they let if they let Teed McMillan
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just run in space, it could be a long day.
Now again, I'll say this, the quarterback sometimes can't get
him the ball. That's gonna be a problem. But all
of a sudden, we didn't think they, Oh, Caleb Williams,
can Caleb Williams get these guys the ball? And he
was able to do it. So just don't let that happen.
Nick Millan is a guy that is very, very capable.
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He doesn't have a touchdown yet, but he has a
lot of targets. He's gonna he's gonna be sure handed,
and you have to be ready for him going and
getting that football because that's something he's really really good at.
Speaker 7 (41:46):
Have that been thrown interceptions or I.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Think he has. I think he has four. I think
we got eight touchdowns, four interceptions.
Speaker 7 (41:52):
Because I'm curious to see just if this is another
opportunity for the defense to kind of keep building on that,
because that's something that Scholtenheimer can't see. Used to talk
about it, and he emphasized that last week getting ready to
face the Jets, they were working on punching the ball
getting the turnovers, creating those uh, getting attacking the ball,
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getting the ball, and then all the people I've heard
people say, oh, well, how about you just mainly focus
on tackling. Well, you can do both, okay, And with
tackling also comes you get into the ball and vice versa.
If you're trying to get to the ball, you can
also tackle at the same time. Anyways, the point is,
I know that has been a big emphasis right now
and something that the Cowboys continue to work during the week.
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So I'm curious to see. I was curious to see
how with this matchup, if it creates more opportunities for
the defense to get their hands on the ball.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
The quarterback dropped, the quarterback will fumble the ball in
the pocket.
Speaker 5 (42:46):
He liked to get sacked.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
He likes what he likes to get sacked.
Speaker 5 (42:49):
He would he would.
Speaker 4 (42:49):
He would rather get sacked than to throw the ball
downfields of other team somewhere. So if you're if you're
getting turnovers, is him and his little hands just dropping
football somewhere.
Speaker 6 (42:58):
Good thing is that they they've been hoking the ball
out that they certainly had one last week. I think
that's what they've been practicing all through our training camp.
Coach believes that at some point it's going to kick
in and you're gonna start getting a spade, getting him
a spade. So we'll see if that happens. But we've
seen it happen a couple times, and now we'll see
if that continues, and we'll see certainly they will be
trying to create those kinds of turnovers. Uh, we'll see
if that happens this weekend. All right, that's a wrap.
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We got we're gonna get into the Carolina offense versus
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Julius Wood, who was a guy that back if you
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guy that was their safety and and and.
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Turned a few heads.
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I thought he was a guy that a lot of
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What were your thoughts on him?
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Do you have any thought do you remember him during
camp or what the Cowboys might be expecting, how they
could use him if he can really jump in and
be of use to them right now while Molie Hooker's out.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
This is a thing by Julius Wood and the Julius
Wood types. He's one of those box safeties that kind
of walks down and you know, does the tackling stuff,
the run game stuff, but you really don't want him
one high too much. And typically what happens is is
when you bring in a guy like that, you find
many other guys like that. So a guy like Elijah
Clark that can do that but also give you other
you know, range and things like that. You know, you know,
(02:20):
now job titles and stuff like that gets a little weird.
But he's like a Donald type guy. He was around,
but he did make a bunch of plays in these games,
so that kind of got you know, that got him
a little hype. But you can only carry so many guys.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
But let me ask you this, do you guys have
questions now about the health of Hooker.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Well, they put him on IR so he has to
sit at yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Four weeks.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, maybe that's.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Kind of I know that, I know that, the IR
thing and all that, but I just wonder going forward,
is that something you know that or they just protected themselves.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Donvin Wilson had a shoulder at the end of the game.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
How did that?
Speaker 5 (02:53):
How did that end up?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah? I didn't hear any more about that, to be
honest with.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
You, because he would be a guy that fits the
Donald things. So if anything is wrong with him, that'll
be Markue's Bell and Julius Wood that fit those similar
kind of types. And Clark will be the free safety
kind of guy as well.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Hook res Aert. Yeah, I just I think I think
he nailed the guy. I think that was really physical,
physical player though to that guy that was always around
the ball and stuff. So yeah, it's up the middle.
I mean they're trying, they're trying to find things to
to to you know, make this defense a little bit better.
I think that's where the biggest problems have been. I mean,
(03:29):
we look at the defensive tackle room. It seems like
with you adding you know, with Clark that that seems
to be a positive. You're getting some stuff, You're getting
some you know, great really I think some very good
play from Solomon Thomas. But yeah, the middle linebacker situation,
trying new guys, trying things at safety. You know, they've
got to get better up the middle of this defense.
And maybe Wood's not the answer, but I mean it's
(03:50):
just something that they have some familiarity with, something different,
so might as well give it a go.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
Thinking about the safety position. Obviously, this last game, Janye
Thomas was in from MALIEK.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Cooker.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
What were your thoughts on his play this last week?
Did you see anything that was an improvement over what
you had been getting before?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Was it about the same? How would you assess his play?
Speaker 4 (04:11):
I'll tell you what Whyya is gonna sound real crazy
because he played safety, but he was deepest of the deep.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
He did that job.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
He's like, y'all ain't getting past me.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
He did, he did, but y'all love yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
And there was a couple of times where you know
he saved you know, touchdowns where you know it could
have been a bigger play in the run game, he
kind of came down and made a play or a
pass the game. So, h wyya is he's doing his job.
And look, hey, Vosch, what's so special by doing your job?
Hey man, it's been a crazy couple of weeks where
people haven't always been doing their job. So when we
see people doing their job, it's a positive step.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah. I think the thing is with Thomas, you're gonna
get a guy that I think is very comfortable playing
the back and playing up and so it still gives
you that flexibility if you're going to play some more
man coverage. What they did about seventeen perc sent more
in this game. So he gives you the flexibility to
be able to play him in coverage and you don't
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have to worry about things there. And then his ability
also to see things, to react to things. You know,
he's a very aware player, and I appreciate that about
him because he is not going to give up stuff
over the top. And he didn't have to make a
whole lot of range plays the other day. But you know,
and you're about to play a team. We'll get into Carolina,
(05:26):
They'll try and throw the ball deep, but they have
no success doing it. And so but you're gonna need
somebody like that Dallas to struggle with that ball over
the top, and you know, he's a guy that's generally
not going to let that happen.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
Looking at our inside ops, when we look at the
Carolina Panthers, they are right now two and three. They
are coached by Dave Canalis, who is kind of an
interesting guy to me. This is only a second year
as a head coach. Last year they went five and twelve,
so not a successful year. Before that, he had only
been an offensive coordinator for one year with Tampa Bay
(05:59):
in two thousand twenty three, and in that year, just
looking at some of the numbers, they didn't have a
particularly great year offensively. They were ranked twentieth in the
league in points, twenty third in.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
The league in yards. This year, they're averaging.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
Twenty twenty point four points per game that they're scoring
and averaging twenty three point eight points per game against
what other teams are scoring against them, ranked twenty fourth
and nineteenth, respectively. What are your thoughts on Dave Canalis
and what he's doing. I guess from a schematic standpoint
(06:31):
from building this team standpoint there in Carolina, Carolina, I.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Don't think they have the talent to do anything that
he's that he's trying to do. If the offensive line
is a mess, the wide receivers can't get going because
the quarterback doesn't always see things well, he's short, so
maybe you gotta change things that you may want to
do on your offense. You know, Brian's old man. He
likes the big, tall quarterback that could see over everything.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Sometimes short people nothing against him.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
It's just a nast football league where everybody's you mungs,
I'm short relative to them, but I may be bigger.
Theybody on his hall, not Brian, because Brian's tall. But
you know, it's kind of hard to know what he
brings to the table because you know, these guys just
haven't gotten things going.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Now.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
That's where I kind of give or not give coaches
that much leeway because I can see what the Colts
are doing with Daniel Jones and go, hey man, that's
a dude that hasn't been all there great in the league,
but you kind of figured things out. Michael Pittman's to
do it over there. Not the greatest pedigree of a
wide receiver, but they can figure things out over there.
But Carolina just hasn't figured things out on offense. So
based on what I've seen, I haven't seen a whole
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bunch of offense get moves.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Yeah, you know what he made his money initially dealing
with a short quarterback and making it work. And that's
Baker Mayfield. They're in Tampa. You know, you look at
what he was able to do and then now he
is working with a shorter quarterback and it has not
it has not translated. He is a very he could
be very innovative. I think that Vach is onto something
(07:55):
with the way that they've tried to address it through skill.
They've they've tried to the problem is their offensive line.
They've tried, they haven't hit on the offensive line, and
it's kind of been of a a situation where we'll
get into that. It's just not a very good group
and that's been a real struggle. And then you've got
a quarterback that tends to not be able to see,
(08:18):
and now you have pressure and he's dealing with pressure
and not being able to see, and then they can't
get the ball out like they need to. But it's
interesting how they try and run the ball. If you
watch the Dolphins game, you'll be very impressed. If you
watch everything else, you're left to being like, oh, well,
this is just a pretty ordinary team running the football.
They got after the Dolphins, when they got down seventeen
(08:39):
to nothing, they started running the football and they were
really they got very good at it. I think that
will kind of be their plan again this week. But
he has just not it's not as creative of an
offense that we saw with what he was able to
do in Tampa with Baker Mayfield. It was a.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
Lot of that he saw in that running game because
they were down steven team nothing. Most in most instances,
you wouldn't expect the team to start running the ball
or running the ball effectively at that point because typically
you think they just got hurry and get points on
the board, and so they start passing a lot.
Speaker 8 (09:10):
More.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
That being said, do you think a lot of that
success they saw was because Miami was playing the type
of defense where they were more concerned about protecting against
big plays and it allowed more holes for the run game.
Or do you think it was just literally they were
doing just a really good job of running the ball.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
I think Miami's getting ready to quit and the head
coach might be getting fired.
Speaker 9 (09:29):
Song.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Oh wow, they probably gonna be getting rid of some
of those guys pretty soon.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
Breaking, breaking, breaking.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Yeah, yeah, well it's according to my sources, not I'm
just playing.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
But yeah, they.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Don't have a phone like that. No no, no, no, no, they
got a gang of seven.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
But the but the I got a gang seven age
and nine.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
The league shout out of the foot field still, but
you know the the Dolphins went up early in that game. Yeah,
I don't want to just you know, chalk it up
till they got comfortable because they they got a lead.
But when the the Carolina Panthers decided that they were
going to run the football, and it's probably because they
can't pass the football. That's been happening for five games now,
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they just found success running it, and it just kept
running it. It didn't look like the Dolphins were Oh
my god, we're just playing a different kind of defense.
They tried to stop the run, they just couldn't. They
were flying around all over the place. And this offensive line,
who hasn't really driven anybody off the ball all year,
was driving the Miami Dolphins off the ball. And I
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can't imagine. That was just deflating. And by the time
it was all over, Rico dadda like a damn Pro Bowl.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yeah, that's the thing. It came down to. The Dolphins
are just a bad tackling football team, you know. But
let's give Carolina some credit. When they were coming off
the ball, they were winning the line of scrimmage. There
were several times where Dolphin defenders, defensive linemen were turned.
They ran the ball a couple of different ways. They
ran it on the edge, they went with toss, they
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did it inside. Every way they wanted to run the ball.
They were having success. Rico Dowdle We all understand him.
He has the ability to be a physical ball carer.
He can make people miss initially and then he gets
into the open field. And there were several times where
he had runs that were going to be two three
yards and all of a sudden, it turns into ten
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fifteen yards because the Dolphins inability to tackle. So you know,
when you start to talk about with Rico, he's right
abound where we thought he was when it comes to
successful runs. That four plus he was doing it last
year for the Cowboys. That's what he's capable of doing,
is taking the ball and then getting you four five yards.
You know, he gets tackled and now you're kind of
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standing ahead of the change right there. So this is
this is I think, kind of a plan going forward.
You know. With with Chuba Hubbard, he's we're going to
talk about him, he's dealing with a calf injury. They
tried to play him the game, he couldn't play in
the game, or the week before he tried to play
in the game, couldn't finish the game, and then he
had to sit out. And they're saying that maybe they're
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gonna give him a little bit more rest. So it'll
probably be the Rico Dawdles show coming up here against
the Cowboys in Charlotte Dallas.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
Question, real quick, little bit off topic, but Brian, I
know this season you've been kind of leaning into the
whole theory of who has the most pressure like the
most desperate team. So where do you feel right now?
Who who is currently the most desperate.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Team for the Well, Carolina won last week, you know,
and Dallas get So you've got two teams feeling you know, Dallas,
I think that if you had to say a team
that this is where I don't know FOT will agree
with me on this or not. I kind of feel
like that Dallas is desperate in this way. If you're
a Dallas Cowboy fan, you want them to continue to
(12:34):
play desperate, if you want them to go make a trade,
that's just me. I feel like that if they need
to keep winning, you need to keep desperate to get
wins to maybe convince general manager and front office too.
Let's go see and let's see what happens within the conference,
and let's see what happens within the division. You know,
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if all of a sudden, Philly starts to falter, you
get a chance to play the Commander next week, maybe
you get a win there. Find ways be desperate, be
a desperate team to win these games in order to
try and get the front office to maybe swing and
make a big deal here to kind of put you
into into another another level. That's that's where I think
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the desperation is right now for this football.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Teach also too Brown on the On that point, the
games that the Cowboys lost are conference games, So in
the grand scheme of things, you don't want that to
come back to bite at the end of it. So
Carolina is the NFC team you kind of want to
get one, you know, one one back up on.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
The conference there.
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what y'all got, Carolina?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
What do you want to talk about? First? What do
you think? What do you think that your biggest concern
is about this Carolina Panther offense man?
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Brian, I went the next Gen stats. Yep, Derek Eagles
at Ambargarcia Brown Bros. I went to the next Gen Stats.
I'd just like to scroll down and see what the
rank is look like. It was like, boy, in terms
of rushing efficiency, Carolina was a was a top ten team.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
There was number ten. I said, you a damn lie.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Next next year and stats say, let me go back
to see what happened and play the game or what
if like what if the Miami game didn't happen, then
people like twenty seven way at the bottom. I say, cool,
that makes a lot more sense. I know there's a
lot of people's gonna fear Rico Dubtle for his Hu
Munggs game that they had last week. Just looking at
Rico over the other four games. If we're playing what
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if Miami doesn't exist? Twenty eight carries fifty five yards.
All right, Cool, that's how y'all been getting down. Even
Chowbeer Hubbard, who was starting fifty three, carries two hundred
and seventeen yards. Much better than Rico, but still not
gonna blow your way just watching these guys, Brian, if
they're gonna beat you, it's gonna be via run game.
But I don't even think the run game is all
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that all that spectacular. It may still be like the
second worst run game that you've gone against this year,
just playing just playing football math like that. Think the
Eagles were much better of a run team. I think
the Packers were much better. You know, Swift and the
Bears weren't good. You know, as much as we talk
about the Jets, they were a good running football team.
And it kind of showed you. I just don't think
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Carolina is all that good Versus the teams that you
did line up against. You look at run at the receivers,
you don't really see a whole bunch of numbers from
them because Bryce Young hasn't really been able to get going.
Tim McMillan is the main guy, and that's because that's
that's the only guy that can get things going.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
He's elite.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
So if Bryce Young does read things well and he
does throw it out there, it may be high, maybe low.
Tim McMillan does have the ability to go up and
get it. Shockingly, Carolina tries the D ball a whole bunch.
They don't hit it a bunch, but they try it
a lot. So if the Cowboys, if you give up
a bunch of D passes, our D pass defense would
be different than some other team's deep pass defense. So
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just because they're not hitting on it, don't mean that
they won't hit it versus us.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Brian brought us.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
Yeah, real quick, before you get too far there, I
want to go back to when you're talking about the
run game. I think one thing that we've seen this
year with the cow Boy specifically is the scheme and
how you run the ball. We saw with the Cardinals
last year and the year before. How you run the
ball is just as important as running the ball, just
your running game. What kind of scheme do they employ
and is it one that can cost problems to Dallas.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
I think they don't really know what scheme they want
to do. Houses go on the ball because because when
you go back and you break it down to the
point of go go just go watch ten yard runs. Yeah,
that'll give you an idea. If a team has a
bunch of ten yard runs, then you could kind of
get an idea. With the Panthers, what they do is
it's not all scrambles. So there might be say they
had fifteen ten yard runs, two scrambles and the rest
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are either the jet sweet variety or they hand the
ball off and then I've seen, you know, the Cowboys
run the play where they send most they send everybody
one way and flip it back the other way. Okay,
big run, and then they they'll do like they'll do
a zone run. They'll do you know where they where
they everybody steps to the right, they push and then
back makes a cut. That was kind of what they
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were doing against the Dolphins. So they're a little bit
of trying to It's not like, oh wow, look a
bunch of polls. They don't have pulling linemen. They ran
a crack toss, they got a ten plus yard run,
but you know, they didn't get the tackle out. It
was just the backs. You know, they cracked the end
and all of a sudden, there was just nobody on
the outside, you know, in the Dolphins game and now
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it's the run to the edge. So I think they're
a team that's trying to kind of find their identity
running the football. But the Dolphins game showed me one
thing is if I think they're going to try, I
think that if you look at what the Jets did
last week, and this is where I think Dallas might
be a little bit. You know that people we were
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worried about teams just lining up and throwing the football
against Dallas because of the lack of pass rush and
the problems in the secondary. Worried about that, and you
kind of saw that. You saw the Giants game on
it was it was throw the ball, throw the ball,
Throw the ball. This guy. You can't make this quarterback
look good. You just can't. You just cannot I mean,
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every metric tells you that things that Dallas are bad
at throwing the football, Carolina is just as bad. Carolina
has their problems when it comes to like Fox was
talking about, throwing the deep ball, maybe some of the
intermediate stuff, maybe some of the stuff underneath. That's about it.
That's about the stuff. I just think Dave Kanallis is
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going to watch that Jets tape and he's going to say, listen,
I'm scared of this Dallas offense right now. I'm scared.
But Dallas can do something offensively to take the running
game away from Carolina. They could absolutely do this, and
they did it with the Jets last week, and I
think they could do it again this week with Carolina.
We'll talk about Carolina's defense tomorrow, but the best defense
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of Carolina's strength, and I think it is running the football.
The Dolphins game showed me with Rico Dawdle and their
line coming off, and if you don't handle point of
attack blocks and you missed, which Dallas has done at
an alarming rate. You do those things, you're going to
encourage Carolina to run the football, even though this offensive
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line is probably built not in a good way. To
do either running the ball or passing the ball.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
So to that point, when you look at the season
so far, really Dallas has been a lot better against
the run earlier in the season. Now, a lot of
that can be pointed to, Well, maybe teams just didn't
feel like they needed to run because they just throw
all over you. But were there things last week that
the Jets do, particularly in their run game that you've
seen shades of that in what Carolina is particularly what
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Carolina did last week that makes you think this could
be a problem for Dallas because these are things that
are problems for them when they're trying to stop the run.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Cowboys didn't tackle last week. But I also think the
Jets didn't have a bad offensive line. I just want
to keep banging a point there. They can actually block.
The Cowboys just found some good passes right nowhere, but
just run game. Though the Jets do have a line
that can move bodies. The Cowboys just didn't always get moved.
But what happened was when when you know when it's
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time to come up and feel you miss tackles, if
everybody miss tackles from you, save these linebackers Kenner Clark
and not so much as he's a superstar, but you
have to tackle Ricodowdo you have to tackle Rico Dowd?
And the earlier you get the ricodowdo, the better chance
you have of bringing them down. If you let him
get ahead of steam and he's going, going, going, he's
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probably gonna, you know, take you all the way down
the field. Get to him early, bring him down and
make Carolina do something they don't want to do, which
is passing football.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, you know, if you watch Carolina and I talked
about a little bit of a grab bag of the offense.
So but if you really break down the Cowboys that
we do every week, we watched them a lot of
their runs. What was happened last week? It wasn't on
the edge, it was inside. It was they were blocking
Kenny Clark, they were blocking Solomon Thomas, they were blocking
oh so O Diggi Zua, they were getting up on
the linebackers. James Run, jumps around the block, Murray gets blocked.
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Now they're on the safety. The one thing Dallas has
struggled with this year is runs right at him. It
hasn't so much been stuff on the edge. It has
been right at him and what's Carolina's offensive line. Fotch
will tell you this is not a mobile offensive line.
This is not a big like like, oh, we're gonna
pull guys and get guys in space and all that.
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They're heavy footed guys, very very lungey, very heavy footed guys.
So what's there going to be their strength? Come off
the ball, try and get into blocks and then make
you have to defend the inside run. I could see
them doing that with Rico dow Look what Rico Dado
again did with the Cowboys. It wasn't anything on the outside.
A lot of the Rico Dawdle runs are in between
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the tackles. I can see the Dave Canellis attacking the
same way. After after watching what Dallas did last week
against the Jets, and then if you kind of look
it throughout the season, inside runs have been a problem
for this Dallas defense.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
So who's more important as far as has to play
better when it comes to defending that type of running game.
Is it your defensive tackles have to just not get
moved or is it your linebackers that need to fill
on a more consistent basis and be able to go
through blocks versus going around.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Linebackers for sure. Linebackers for sure.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
I feel like this d line does a decent job
of not getting driven three four five yards down. That's old,
that's old Cowboys. They haven't done much of that this
year at all. It's when you come up tackle, when
you come up bring somebody down, and that's that's Samborne,
that's Murray. Uh you know, and listen, we're talking about
(25:32):
the young guys, the young linebackers. The young line is interesting.
They don't have a problem missing tackles. They have a
problem like not being around the tackle like you know,
live fouill get too wide sometimes right, James will coke
take some out the plays. You know, James will be
a little late. Samborn and Murray, you know, they'll know
the general direction to be at, but they'll miss once
they once they actually get there. This Carolina group doesn't
(25:55):
like to block the second level. They can't stand block
and linebackers. So maybe they get a more free look
I would say, getting down there and tackling. But you know,
everything every way that the Panthers can't beat you in
the run game, it's on Dallas to not get beat
that way.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Yeah, I think to me, this you know, it's last
week was not one of the better games with Kenny
Clark playing. And Kenny Clark has played very well up
until this point. The pass rush stuff and all that
I think has been really really good. But last week
they got blocked as a front and it was a problem.
It really really was. Carolina is going to try and
block you the same way. I me personally nothing against
(26:32):
Mazzie Smith. I think this might be a good game
to put jay Toya back inside and let a bigger bite.
Let Mazzie seems to have now had some problems playing
a little bit of the run defense stuff. Some of
the pass rush stuff been a little bit better. Winn
in a little bit more on that, But man, they're
going to need some stuff. They're going to need some
stoutness up front. And I just think this is the
(26:55):
only way that Carolina can beat you in this game,
so offensively. See now, Tech they might get all of
a sudden, Dallas decides they don't want to they don't
want to pressure, they don't want to pressure Young and
he makes them throws like Caleb Williams may and all
of a sudden, Tech McMillan downfields making plays and Hunter
Renfro's making catches underneath and getting third downs. I don't
(27:16):
see that as always happening because I think Dallas can pressure.
I think Dallas can put pressure on these guys offensively.
But all of a sudden this turns into hand the
ball off four yards, hand the ball off again, four yards,
third and Shorts hand the ball off again. We've seen
Rico Dawdle convert, you know. So that's You've got to
find a way to keep the Carolina Panthers behind the
chains and then make them want to throw the football
(27:39):
against you, because if you don't, you make them very comfortable.
We saw again what the Bears were able to do
that nineteen play drive that they had all those runs.
You know, look at the Jets last week, take seven
minutes off the clock. You know, with the way that
they play, you know, Dallas can't get in one of
those games. They're gonna need to be pretty stout up
front against this crew.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
I don't mean to be super critical, but I'm I
don't feel very confident just yet about having the Dallas
Cowboys defense be able to shut somebody both. No, I
was going to say have both things of like pressureing
the quarterback of what we saw last week, while also
stopping the run. So when you say, looking into this game,
(28:19):
based on everything that you're saying, you would dedicate most
of those resources into stopping the run rather than trying
to continue to Again, you can do both things, but
I just don't feel confident that they're there yet to
do both.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
One. I think Rico Dado can make your life pretty miserable.
I don't think Bryce Young can and I mean throwing
the football. So yes, and I think vouch is again
absolutely right about this. Is they tackling This game is
going to really come down to our two yard three
yard runs, two three yard runs. Don't let two three
(28:55):
yard runs turn into seven eight ten yard runs. That's
this Ski. Carolina can't beat you throwing the ball, in
my opinion, No where they can beat you is if
they can hold the ball, finish drives, but just chew
up clock and you can't do anything to stop him
running the ball. That would be my biggest concern.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
Yeah, you're daring Bryce Young to beat you in this game,
because the thing about it is even if he gets
even if he hits some big plays, the reality is
he's got to keep up with Dak Prescott and the
way Dak Prescott and this offense are playing right now,
that's gonna be the that is the formula for almost
every team they're gonna play this year, which is put
pressure on their offense by your offense scoring a ton
(29:35):
of points and moving the ball efficiently down the field.
And I think that's the part where I'm just like, yes,
I'm stopping the run.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
That's gonna be my primary concern.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
And if Bryce has a couple big plays, great, I
just I'm gonna bet on the fact he can't go
in a duel with Dak Prescott and come out on
the other end of that in a positive way.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Film and the metrics tell you this quarterback can't win
on most series. He can't. I mean, he misses passes,
he turns the ball over, there's problems that he has.
Pressure gives him problems. Pressure in the pocket causes turnovers
for him. Hell, he'll just damn drop the ball running
around back there. You get turnovers from him. So but
(30:19):
if you go out there and allow allow them to
run the football and have success doing it and make
it very easy for Dave Canalis to call the game
that way, you know this It could be very very
difficult just for that aspect, because you might not have
as many. You might be used to having ten twelve
possessions a game. You might be two possessions short, you know.
(30:42):
I mean that might be something that you have to
do with. It could be a very close game. I
just don't in my heart believe that this quarterback can
beat you throwing the ball. I just don't. But I
do feel like that they could keep it very very
close if your defense doesn't play very good run defense.
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All right, we're going to take our final break.
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We'll come back. I'm gonna ask these guys about some
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some of the offensive players for the Carolina Panthers. Will
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We are in the final segment of the Break, live
from the SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. We're talking
about Cowboys defense versus the Carolina offense.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Let's I'm not here for all that. Happy to be here.
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Speaker 3 (34:03):
We're doing all right, We're doing fine, We're doing all right.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Let's get some Let's get some matchups.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
I want to know about some specific matchups for the
Carolina Panthers offense versus the Dallas defense where fans should watch.
These are going to be the moments or the specific
matchups that you think will affect the outcome of this game.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
I thought you had a massive in particular, right cool,
So we can start with offense now.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
It just sounded like I thought he was gonna cool tackle.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
You can start with him.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
I came a quote new man. I was a big
fan of him coming out of the draft process. He
was he was a big dude, move well, great length. Uh,
you know you happen to you just never know what
happened to these guys once they once they get.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
To the lead.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
You know, you gotta work hard and it ain't going well,
it ain't.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
It ain't going well.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
I was watching them and when me and Brian look
at this offensive line say, hey, this group is kind
of sluggish, slow footed, I'm talking about him. He has
a lot of lazy sets.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
You know, if if if pressure is coming nine times
out of ten, by the numbers like seven out of ten,
I would say it's coming from the left tackle. Now
depends on what the Cowboys do here, flus were looking
back at you. If you want to build on what
you did last week, and we run some slants and
some gap exchanges and some stunts and all this kind
of stuff, there's a way that you could beat up
(35:16):
on the Panthers front front five here. But if we
just want to rush four straight up and down just
like that, I came a quo who may have a
Pro Bowl dead against you, because that's just what the
Cowboys have been doing there. Guys, A look at the
bottom of sheet here. They got a character on the
practice squad named Michael Tarkien.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Never heard of. Brian bron hasn't neither.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
If we rush guys straight up and down, I don't
have faith that we can beat Michael Tarkien one on
one but if you did what you did last week,
we run some gap exchanges, stunts mix up the looks. Also,
you can muddy up the looks. So we talked about this.
Ambar was like, hey, can you rank the guys that
diagnosed defense really well? Bryce Young is in the lower
tier of guys that diagnose, you know, diagnosed defenses. So
(35:56):
he's up there with Justin Fields and Jayalen Hursts. Even
though it sounds like I'm hating on her. Those guys
don't don't see very well. So what happens with Bryce
Not only can he not read it well, but he
doesn't stay on task because he can't improvise because he little,
so it ain't like he can find somebody new if
his number one guy is open, don't laugh because he little,
so he's not gonna find somebody different. He's gonna run
(36:17):
around and try to get out of the pocket and
then maybe make something happen. So this another week where
you have to maintain rush lanes. And if you want
to do it versus iikem m'coneu'll he'll he'll let you
do it. So matchup wise. Dante Fowler right, one thing
that he did really well last week was like, get
off the ball quickly and whatever you gave him, whether
it be the inside and outside, he would attack that quickly.
It's a fantastic game that if Iike McCone wou come
(36:39):
out here slow feet, you know, setting very deep, giving
you the inside, then that'll be a fantastic way for
Dante foul to beat up on him.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Yeah, they had like thirty three past attempts last week
and they give up twenty one pressures out of that.
I mean, this team will they just do not They
just do not do a very good job. They're just
not an athletic group. And there and it's and it
shows they they they want to try and do things
I think scheme wise. And then we talked about Dave
Canellis earlier what he would like to do. He just
(37:09):
can't do it, you know. And they've tried to throw
resources at this offensive line. It hasn't worked out. It's
kind of a mismatch group. The tackles set extremely deep,
they give up pressures. You can carry him back to
the quarterback. You know, the quarterback can't see over rush.
So if you get him little, if you get him
in the middle of that pocket, he's gonna he's gonna collapse. Now,
Derek does remember a time he got him into the
(37:31):
University of Texas and he escaped and won the game
for Alabama. But those days have to bring up stuff
if you and far between. No, those those kinds of
situations have not happened for this guy throughout the career.
So yeah, it is an offensive line that is much
maligned that they're going to try and run the football.
They're going to try and beat you up that way,
They're gonna try and be physical. Well, Dallas, allow it.
(37:54):
I I like what everybody's talking about with flues. Can
you determine that this group are they going to try
and man stunts. If you've determined we saw last week
with the Jets, if they're going to man twist stunts,
you're gonna have opportunities to get guys home. This is not,
I repeat, not an athletic offensive line, Dallas. The one
(38:14):
thing rushing the passer can do is they can put
some pressure on you with some movement, and I would
do that right from the jump. But it's going to
be about them being able to control that run. Don't
give Carolina any reason to run the football. Dallas's offense
has to help you out as well on that. But
you need to take advantage of this group because they're
just not as good as some of the groups you've
(38:35):
played this year.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
It's just another matchup.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
And in terms of offensive line, you know, we talked
about the outside guys Brian Caide, Mays and Damian Lewis
are slower footed somehow than akem Is, so even if
they do get turned, I mean, I mean, that's a
way to get them. But I just feel comfortable with
guys like Osa Solomon Kenny Clark's line up and just
kind of running past those guys. You know, we talked
(38:57):
about Mazia and do you play toeo whatever, We have
got a little more juice in terms of quickness and
moving forward right somehow because he's the bigger man, which
just shut out to him. I think this would be
a This would be a fantastic time to make him
active this week and let him pass rush a little bit.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
When you talk about Trayvon Diggs, it's interesting. Week before
last he's he doesn't start the game. He plays in it,
but doesn't start the game. Last week he played one
hundred percent of the snaps. How do you assess his
play last week, and obviously going into a game like
this where you have someone a young rookie, but guy
that certainly can go up and get the ball and
(39:30):
can create some matchup problems in certain situations, how do
you assess where Trayvon is. I guess at this point
of the season.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
Trade did final last week, and that Jets wide receiver
corps wasn't really wasn't really a group that will win
a whole bunch of one on ones outside of Garrett Wilson.
So when Trey was not kind of around there, he
was doing his fine. He was doing his job just fine.
And you kind of get a similar group here. You know,
it's like McMillan and the rest of them just kind
of exists and treye the history says that you know
(40:01):
these wire receivers that are bigger and not like quick,
and you know these like bigger moving guys.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
Trey has good days versus those guys.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
So if he's against McMillan, you don't want him, you know,
getting on like Renfro, Nothing like that. Renfro is quicker,
he's you know, down under. But Trey versus McMillan, if
that's the matchup that we're going to see for the
most part, you you would feel good about that matchup
because McMillan is not a terribly quick guy.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Yeah, I think with the thing with Trey is and
and we had some questions about health on but really
both corners. But you know, talking to people in the organization,
they're like, no, it's just these guys are fine. Everything's cool.
So it's now it's about going out and covering people.
We've talked about McMillan. If you're a fan of the
Draft Show, you know that the Dallas Cowboys were in
the mix of wanting to draft this guy.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
So it'd been nice to have them too.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
And the reason, well, your guy Booker probably wouldn't have
got picked.
Speaker 6 (40:49):
But right now you look at your wy receiver quote Groop,
and you're like, well, okay, put them to it.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Yeah. But the thing with I think with McMillan is
he's what we talked about in the Draft Show all
those days, is the ability to run down the field,
good route runner, can separate when he needs to separate,
can go and get the football. You know, we need
to see Dallas play some some tight man coverage that
they have to and and be able to you know,
if this, if they let if they let Teed McMillan
(41:15):
just run in space, it could be a long day.
Now again, I'll say this, the quarterback sometimes can't get
him the ball. That's gonna be a problem. But all
of a sudden, we didn't think they, Oh, Caleb Williams,
can Caleb Williams get these guys the ball? And he
was able to do it. So just don't let that happen.
Nick Millan is a guy that is very, very capable.
(41:36):
He doesn't have a touchdown yet, but he has a
lot of targets. He's gonna he's gonna be sure handed,
and you have to be ready for him going and
getting that football because that's something he's really really good at.
Speaker 7 (41:46):
Have that been thrown interceptions or I.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Think he has. I think he has four. I think
we got eight touchdowns, four interceptions.
Speaker 7 (41:52):
Because I'm curious to see just if this is another
opportunity for the defense to kind of keep building on that,
because that's something that Scholtenheimer can't see. Used to talk
about it, and he emphasized that last week getting ready to
face the Jets, they were working on punching the ball
getting the turnovers, creating those uh, getting attacking the ball,
(42:13):
getting the ball, and then all the people I've heard
people say, oh, well, how about you just mainly focus
on tackling. Well, you can do both, okay, And with
tackling also comes you get into the ball and vice versa.
If you're trying to get to the ball, you can
also tackle at the same time. Anyways, the point is,
I know that has been a big emphasis right now
and something that the Cowboys continue to work during the week.
(42:35):
So I'm curious to see. I was curious to see
how with this matchup, if it creates more opportunities for
the defense to get their hands on the ball.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
The quarterback dropped, the quarterback will fumble the ball in
the pocket.
Speaker 5 (42:46):
He liked to get sacked.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
He likes what he likes to get sacked.
Speaker 5 (42:49):
He would he would.
Speaker 4 (42:49):
He would rather get sacked than to throw the ball
downfields of other team somewhere. So if you're if you're
getting turnovers, is him and his little hands just dropping
football somewhere.
Speaker 6 (42:58):
Good thing is that they they've been hoking the ball
out that they certainly had one last week. I think
that's what they've been practicing all through our training camp.
Coach believes that at some point it's going to kick
in and you're gonna start getting a spade, getting him
a spade. So we'll see if that happens. But we've
seen it happen a couple times, and now we'll see
if that continues, and we'll see certainly they will be
trying to create those kinds of turnovers. Uh, we'll see
if that happens this weekend. All right, that's a wrap.
(43:19):
We'll be back tomorrow. We'll go into the Carolinas defense
versus the Dallas Cowboys offense. Till then for Vax Lombardi,
Brian brought us Amber Garcia and Derek Eagleton. This has
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