July 10, 2025 • 49 mins
The government’s special envoy releases her plan to combat antisemitism, why does childcare training prioritise gender identity over safety? Plus, Brad Battin on the Opposition’s plans to restore order to Victoria.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Peter Krandland live on Sky News Australia.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
How good has Caroline been hosting? Chris kennyways been on
Leeds's been fantastic, good evening, Welcome to the program. Here's
what's coming up tonight on Kredline. The release today of
the Federal government's report into anti Semitism, or should I
say the report from a special envoy. There was no
action announced from the PM, which shast more words well
enough with the words as a Victorian opposition leader, he's
announced action to deal with anti Israel protesters and all
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their violence. The former police officer Brad Batman joins me shortly,
no wonder we've got a crisis of childcare when the
training priorities gender identity before health and safety. And Queensland
today announces mandatory safety training for childcare workers. Now am
I the only one surprises? Isn't already mandatory? What about
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the other states? Plus the shocking report exposing the extent
of c IFVU thuggery, allegations of death threats, violence, misogyny,
even targeting of children. So what needs to happen to
make sure Labour's union mates are brought into line? And
while Jillian Siegel's done her work to come up with
a plan for the government to combat the scourge of
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anti Semitism. Unfortunately, and I'll go through this in a moment,
there was very little that was real from the actions
of the government today.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
This is a scourge that needs to be pushed to
the margin so that it is not part of the
Australia that we have.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
We'll stay with that issue because after billing today is
a big day for combating andti Semitism. All we got
from the Prime Minister was more talk because he mows
the usual platitudes. The Jew hatred was despicable and should
be met with the full force of the law.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Despite a weekend of violence in Melbourne and all the
other crimes that have happened to Jews, the fire bombing
now of three synagogues, the torching of cars, rampages through
restaurants and in timidary marches on most weekends in many
of our cities, all we got from the Alberdezer government
was that handing over of the report from their Special
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Envoy on anti Semitism, nothing more.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
And I welcomed this report and I thank her for
the work that she has done anti Semitism is an
evil scourge and there is no place in Australia for
anti Semitism. The kind of hatred and violence that we've
seen on our streets recently is despicable and it won't
be tolerated. And I want tho its responsible.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
For the government not to have on the table today
their response to the Seagul Reporter at a bare minimum,
a list of five or six of the most urgent
things they can progress immediately. Well, I think that's an insult,
not just the Jewish Australians, but to every one of us.
Do and gentile alike. Regard what's being allowed to fester
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and grow in our community as an abomination. Now, nothing
the Prime Minister said today will stop anti Semitism. Essentially,
what we got was more high minded hand ringing and
not the action, not the leadership that's desperately needed. So
what did Siegul recommend in her report? Well, the report's
recommendations that the government welcomed called for training of border
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force officials to spot and deport anti Semites, a national
standard definition of anti Jewish bigotry, cuts to the funding
and the loss of charitable status for institutions that don't
effectively deal with antisemitism, an anti semitism report card for
our universities and clear editorial standards for the ABC. Now
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it's hard to disagree with any of that, but not
one of those things were actually adopted by the government today. Instead,
they just said they're being considered.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Will now carefully consider the report recommendations. There's a number
of the in here that we are doing. As a
number of things can be implemented quickly, there are a
number of things that will require work over a period on.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
And Yet as I watched the PM and Tony Burke
stand there today with their concerned faces turned on, I thought, seriously,
does anyone think this government, this government that gave three
thousand tourist visas to people from the terrorist controlled war
zone of Gaza, is suddenly going to crack down on
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anti Semitic visa applicants. I mean, does anyone really think
the ABC's reporting will change, or that university is going
to change their behavior, or that the funding would be
cut by the government should there be more anti Semitic
encampments or more due hatred from activist academics. It's just
so typical of this government that it would release a
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report without also releasing a plan to implement it. And
it's hard to take today those expressions of concerns seriously
from the likes of Tony Burke, when the Home Affairs
Minister ostentatiously failed to condemn the eruptions of anti semitism
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immediately after the October seven atrocity. Now look at Burke today.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
We all wish that we could have a plan for
the obliteration of antisemitism. History has a very different and
sad message, but this is about pushing it absolutely to
the margins, because this form of bigotry is absolutely an
attack on Australia.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
And yet here's what was said in his own electoral
backyard on October eight, before there even been one act
of retaliation by Israel for the atrocities that had happened
twenty four hours earlier on October seven.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
I'm smiling, I.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
Mean.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
And what was Burke's response to that at the time. Well, first,
RP he refused to condemn those inflammatory remarks, as any
MP should have condemned them, and then he tried to
put October seven, he said, into some sort of false
context before the seventh book turners.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
I think it's worth remembering, because sometimes.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Forgotten he can.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
You're what. There can be no context, historical or otherwise
that can justify the rape and murder of babies, women's children,
and innocence. Even today, the Prime Minister couldn't avoid criticizing
Israel and his typical moral equivalence between liberal democratic Israel
and the hummasd terrorist death cults. Well, that adds further
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insult to injury.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
I will continue to support the legitimate aspirations of the
Palestinian people for their own state, but I will continue
to oppose terrorist organizations like Commas. I'll continue to speak
out on the need for aid into Gaza and for
humanitarian concerns.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I mean, it's such a far cry from the Labor
Party of Bob Hawk, isn't it, who famously declare that
if the bell tolls for Israel, it told for all mankind?
And also a far cry too from the Labor Party
of Doc ever To. As General Assembly President, led the
United Nations to approve the creation of the State of Israel. Indeed,
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the first country to vote for the partition to create
the modern state of Israel was Australia. Now sadly, the
rampant Jew Hayes. That's been so evident since October seven.
One change is a result of anything announced today that
we know. Additional prosecutions, no additional deportations, no better policing
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of hate speech, and certainly no bans on the intimtry
pro Hamas marches and our routine in our suburbs, particularly
in Melbourne, on anti Semitism, as on so much else.
This is a government that's better at striking a pose
than making a difference. It can't effectively crack down on
due hatred, just as it can't effectively manage our relationship
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with our most important ally. Next week, the PM will
spend six days in communist China, and that's clearly a
higher priority for him than spending six minutes with a
leader of the free world. This is his second high
level official visit to Beijing. Clearly our Prime Minister seems
more comfortable spending time with President g whom he's already
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met four times, than President Trump, whom he's never met
but has admitted he's scared of.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
We have an alliance with the US, We're going to
deal with him, but that doesn't mean that you're uncritical
about it. He scared it out of me.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Granted that Donald Trump commit thin skinned and transactional, it's
still vital RPM has a working relationship with the US President.
For someone who's never stopped waving around his Medicare car
during the election campaign, you think the PM would be
rushing to Washington, wouldn't you, to counter Big Farmer's latest
attack on our PBS. The threatened two hundred percent tariffs
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on Australian pharmaceutical exports to America are almost certainly an
attempt to extract higher prices here for American patented drugs.
In the end that will inevitably mean high health costs
for Australians or, at the very least taxpayers who fund
the system. Then news Orcas, I mean, why would America
do more to defend Australia that Australia is prepared to
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do for itself. Why would America has been nearly four
percent of its money on defense to protect allies like
us when we can scarcely spend two percent ourselves. Why
would America give US three of its nuclear powered submarines
without a clear understanding that they'd be on America's side
in any showdown over Taiwan. Most of the labour Party
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only supported Orcus to avoid the charge of being weak
on national security back in the Morrison era. But Labor
hates nuclear power and they know that their opposition to
nuclear power on land can't survive support for nuclear power
at sea. Meaning it's hard to avoid the conclusion that
deep down Anthony Imeneasy wants to torpedo Orcus, but that
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he wants Donald Trump to be the one who first
walks away. The loss of Orcus would put the whole
US Alliance as in peril. But that's where it's headed
under this government. Divided here at home, pretty friendless overseas.
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All right, let's got a cameraon out for the headlines.
Sky News putical reporter can Redden.
Speaker 8 (11:14):
Good Evening, the government's Special Envoy wants racists deported and
university funding pulled to combat antisemitism.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Anti Semitism is an evil scourge.
Speaker 8 (11:25):
Special Envoy Gillian Siegel wants tougher visa screening to identify
people harboring hateful views and for non citizens involved in
acts of antisemitism to be deported.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
For people making these decisions need to understand what else
is going on.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
There's a number of things in here that we are
doing There's a number of things can be implemented quickly.
There are a number of things that will require work
over a period of time.
Speaker 9 (11:51):
Why bother going through this exercise unless we implement these.
Speaker 8 (11:54):
As the Trump administrations review into ORCUS continues, there are
reports the Pentagon could ask Australia to pay more for
its submarine program.
Speaker 10 (12:03):
We are entitled to try and influence that process.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Where the ones putting the money on the table. This
is a shakedown.
Speaker 8 (12:11):
Cameron Reddin's Sky News Canberra.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I'll come back to today's relation of the anti seventis are
import by Jillian Siegel. In a moment, we'll speak with
former Labor MP Michael Danby. But plenty of other issues
I want to get across. Now, join a met to
do that debuit. Executive director at the Institute of Public
Affairs Daniel Wild And here with me and Melbourne broadcaster
Carolie Katzimbarnas. Welcome to you both. I want to start
with this controversial plan to tax unrealized capital gains and
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reports today the Treasurer is seeking to expand his already
contentious tax sike without parliamentary proven of This is really
interesting in legislative drafting terms, because he wants to use
a little known clause known as the Henry the eighth
Clause Constitutional Law X with Greg Crave and has unpacked
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all of this today, says it allow the Treasurer to
adjust key parts of the plan once you see is
how much money it's bringing in, as if the proposal
wasn't bad enough. The Treasurer also lets slip he's spoken
to Paul Keating about the plan.
Speaker 11 (13:16):
I don't want to verbal him. I don't want to
go into private conversations. I don't think it would surprise
any of you or anyone listening to learn that I
speak with Paul Keating relatively regularly, not just about this issue,
but about a whole range of issues.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Now, Dan a couple of things here. I hope he
is listening to Ketting, as we know. Ketting's an opponent
of this tax, is certainly upset that it's not index.
But I'll tell you what. Back to the legislation. I
mean building in the legislation ways to broaden the scope
of it the tax without then going back to the Parliament.
That should alarm every tax payer. And I think it's
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also alarming in governance terms, given this will end up,
I reckon by stealth some sort of depth tax.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Well, you're exactly right, Peter. I mean this is an
extraordinary power grab, an abuse of power. When we look
at the relevant section that we're discussing here, which is
section two ninety six sixty, which is what Professor Craven
was talking about. What's so extraordinary about this, Peter, is
would actually give the Treasurer the ability to make changes
to the law based on circumstances pertaining to individuals, So
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he could change it not just in relation to broad considerations,
but would be able to target it towards individuals, which
violates every single principle of the rule of law, which
is that the law should be applied fairly and equally
to everybody, and also that the law is knowable and
transparent to the community. There's simply no way of knowing
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how these proposed changes to the laws would work, because
there would be so much power vested in the treasure
himself to make subjective decisions in regarding to how how
exactly as you have said, to increase taxes on Australians
without any checks and balances going through Parliament. It really
is quite extraordinary, and I think that Australians and as
you say, taxpayers in particular are right to be alarmed
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by this.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Let's go to stuff I touched the top of the
show about our sort of deteriorating relationship with the United States.
There's reports to the Nine Paper suggesting that it's part
of the Trump administration's review of ORCUS. They're going to
demand we pay more than we currently do currently. It's
three hundred and sixty eight billion. That's surprise tag for
these three Virginia Class subs, and that will also provide
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a guarantee should they require this is the US those subs.
In any conflict with Taiwan, we would step up to
the mark. This prompted James Patterson to call our diplomats
in Washington to do their job, he says, and get
some clarity around this issue.
Speaker 10 (15:53):
We are entitled to try and influence that process, and
any country with any diplomatic heft or ability to move
quickly would be all over this. We should be able
to save UCAS, but we are not going to save
aucas if we just let this thing on cruise, if
we don't take charge of it, if the Prime Minister
doesn't personally take charge of.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
It, and There was also a call from Bridge McKenzie
saying that, you know, Kevin ryme's really in the hot
scene here. Who's got to step up himself and fix
a relationship or do better in terms of meetings and negotiations.
Certainly on the heel, I mean, curly it would be
in expectation under ANSAs. So we all know the Answers
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Treaty that if there was a conflict and the United
States was involved, that they would be able to call
on us. I don't think you need to amplify it
or restate it again for Orcus. But I'll tell you what,
this relationship's got pretty bad. I think we've got to
think about changing out Kevin run, don't we, Peter, We
certainly do it.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
I'm certainly not backwards in coming forwards with this, so
I said on the no November the fifth, when it
first came out that.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Kevin right had.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
Not deleted those tweets that he'd done in the texts
that he'd done as well. I mean, he's called Trump
the village iliot, he's called him the most destructive president
in history, and he's also called him a trader to
the West. It's not going to end well. We're eight
months now and there's been no face to face interview
with Donald Trump. All other meetings have been rescheduled for
other countries. The bottom line is Kevin Rudd, despite the history,
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despite being a Prime Minister of Australia, he's not doing
the job that he is there to do as the
Australian ambassador to the United States. We have got problems
with our tariffs, we've got problems with copper. Now pharmaceuticals
also steal and aluminum. He's not doing his job. And
I do have to say I think that Kevin Rudd
would probably react in exactly the same way if someone
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did the same to him. We know that he's got
a huge ego. We know what went on in his
administration as well. The bottom line is Kevin Rodd needs
to have the integrity and actually step down and say
I've done all i can do.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
But here's a novel thing I'm going to leave you with.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
Rud's always been very proud that he speaks fluent Chinese Mandarin.
Trump speaks a lot to Jijing Ping. So how about
Rud starts using those contacts or reaching out to Xijing Ping,
and maybe Xijingping is the one that can get alban
Ezy an interview with Trump face to face, because it's
actually got to that. I mean, it's absolutely evident that
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we're being frozen out.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
And also I.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
Think alban Ezi has to have a very serious think.
We cannot have a foot in both camps in the
Indo Pacific region with the relationship with China and the
message that it is sending out to the Trump administration.
It's loud and clear. Eight months on, no meeting. This
is ridiculous. Rud should resign and if he doesn't resign,
he needs to be removed by the Albanese government.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
It is stupid, I tell you what, Caroly I also
think too the optics of us heading off to Beijing.
This is the second time you've had an official visit
by our Prime minister to Beijing. They've had four meetings,
but we've gone there twice. Ji has not come to
Australia under the current Prime minister's watch. So we look
like the supplicant here, don't we, Dan, Because this is
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not just a fly by night trip tacked on to
another visit in sort of summit season. This is six days,
all singing, all dancing, three capital cities and all the time.
Of course, we've got this continuing watch on China pushing
around the region, and this expectation of conflict in Taiwana
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in and around twenty twenty seven. This is not going
to help us in Washington either.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Well, it's certainly not. And I think the issue here
is a couple of things. One is you've got a
government that's not serious about international affairs. It would rather
play petty domestic politics and to make decisions based on
personalities than what's in our national interest. I agree with
the Prime Minister when he says that decisions on our
national security should be made by Australia and not another country.
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But there's no serious person that would think that Australia
would have the capacity need to defend ourselves in the
event that we would need to do so. The reality
is we are not prepared for conflict in our region
and we need to have a strong alliance with the
United States. Yes, that alliance is founded on our shared
values and our cultural similarities, but the United States also
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needs to be able to get something out of that alliance,
and that will mean increasing our defense spending, spending that
money on more effective matters. But also engaging in a
more serious way and understanding exactly as you said sometime
later in this decade, there is every chance that the
Chinese Communist Party will seek to, if not actually intervene
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in Taiwan, and in which case you know it's going
to be a guns up, kinetic warfare and we need
to be ready for that.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
And all around the same time, we in Australia are
looking at the defense budget saying we're not doing what
the rest of the world is doing, with two percent
behind where NATO got to a couple of weeks ago,
the US and looking at us saying lift g game. Well,
our defense Department's putting out a taxpayer funded defense cookbook,
as if this is something I'm going to save us.
I thought this was a joke initially, but Am Marshall
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Leon Phillips is on the record saying he believes in
the incredible power of food. I don't know about that.
I'm much more interested in the power of missiles and
frigates and f thirty fives. I mean, really and truly,
this is not a homeic class Kily. This is crazy,
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
I mean, at least Peter didn't have the guts to
actually say you need to get rid of this complete
woke agenda with the ADF. We know that Richard Mules
has also said that they're going to be getting rid of,
you know, twenty five to forty star generals as well.
This is ridiculous and the cost of it. Are meant
to be working on domestic missiles, our production of domestic missiles.
I don't know how long it takes an egg to boil,
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but I tell you what, it's probably. You know, they've
got to get on and do these missiles.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
It's nuts. I'll over there, move on. Thank you both
for your time. Let's go now to that announcement today
or the release of her report to the government. Special
Envoy Anti Semitism, Gillian Siegel, she gave. The report to
the government includes a whole host of recommendations, including the
cutting of funding to universities and arts bodies who fail
to crack down on anti Jewish bigotry. It also recommends
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deportations of people who hate Jews out of Australia. However,
the PM has refused to commit to any of the recommendations,
despite the fact that they came from his own handpicked.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Envoy Will now carefully consider the report recommendations. There's a
number of things in here that we are doing. There's
a number of things can be implemented quickly. There are
a number of things that will require work over a
period of time.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Joing me now, past chair of the Parliament's Foreign Affairs
and Defense Committee, former Labor MP Michael Danby, will tell
you what, Michael. All these recommendations like cutting like cutting
of funding to arts bodies, universities, all the people that
hate the Jews, We've seen that at many events. You've
got the deportation of people who are biggots against Jews
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out of this country, the removal of hate preachers. You know,
none of this requires special laws, none of these needs
special powers. It all could have been done up until
now it hasn't been. So they get a report today
saying it must happen, it's urgent, get on with it.
And all we got then today was yet more words.
Speaker 12 (23:27):
Yeah, it's a bit like the review here in Victoria,
isn't it, Peter, that the premier is going to do.
People know what to do. I mean, Tony Burke doesn't
have to send Hassan Australia. Hesbilla's portraitist to the Venice
Bienali to represent Australia. If we're talking about arts funding.
It's nice that the Prime Minister and the report talk
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about enforcing the law with Australian universities, but as you said,
they could have done that a lot earlier, and we
were the one who actually stopped having an inquiry like
they did in the United States. Remember the famous Stefanic
interrogations of the leading universities. We should have done that.
So I think Burke and Albert realize that this bigotry
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has got out of control, as as you advised more
than a year ago, and they will agree to some
of these recommendations, but at least Siegeler has put them up.
I'm worried that it's a civic society problem. How could
it be, Peter that here in Melbourne, the state member
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for Melbourne, Ellen Sandal, the head of the toxic Green,
bigoted racist party, has not said a word about the
attack on the synagogue in her electorate. Where is she?
Where are the toxic Greens? How can they possibly be
elected at the next elections. Liberal and Labor should both
make sure that we preference against them. And it's not
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just what the Prime Minister does or recommendation that reporting.
It is up to all of us to take action.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I know, but people take their accues from the government,
you know that. I mean, look at the footage I
played again tonight of Tony Burke the day after the atrocities.
So October eight, we're talking about people celebrating in his
own electorate what had happened in Israel before Israel had
fired one rocket in retaliation, and he says, oh, we've
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got to have some historical context about all of this.
You know, he's now in charge of delivering us back
our country that used to not see race and religion
as points of division. But it's all been licensed for
a year and a half. Now, how do you turn
this around? And how long, Michael, do we give them
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to put this report into action? How long do you
give the government?
Speaker 12 (25:53):
Well, I don't give them any time at all. They
should should implement some of the recommendations straight away. It's
so alarming. They're obviously not Bob Hawk or Kim Beasley
or even Bill Shorten or Julia Gillard, are they? Peter.
I mean, you showed footage that's got nothing to do
with the Jewish issue. Of all of those black clad
men are having a festival parade, a really threatening parade
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around Saint Patrick's Cathedral. The old wisdom is it starts
with the Jews and then everyone else suffers. So I
hope the new police commissioner in Victoria is monitoring the
social media from now on and we don't have any
more attacks like that we did at the Mizzenon cafe
on Friday night, because the next thing that will happen
the landlight in the sand they'll have to draw under
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it is if someone is killed, and I fear that's
that's coming.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
What about the comments today at of New South Wales
from the Director of Public Schools that it's not up
to them to police pro Palestinian t shirts or cafeas
in the classroom. Now the department has its own code.
It says we don't support or can dine any encouragement
by staff for students to adopt political or religious views.
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But again this is handling and this is someone else's problem,
they say. But they're not going to step up and
deal with it themselves.
Speaker 12 (27:16):
See, this is the problem of having so many weak
and woke bureaucrats, either magistrates to let people out on
bail or these pathetic New South Wales Education commissioners. Chris
Mins is the Premier of New South Wales and if
he gives them an instruction they are to obey it.
All of this problem got worse in Australia and worse
for all Australian It's not just the small Jewish committee
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of one hundred and twenty thousand people. When the cops failed
to do what they instinctively should have done on the
ninth of October, that defamed Australia all around the world.
When those people were standing on the steps yelling out
gas the Jews. I don't believe it was where's the Jews?
I've listened to it myself many times. They admitted that
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it was gas the who they would have had to
go out to the western suburbs and arrest some of
the people who said it because it's incitement to violence.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Ill over there. Thank you, Michael Jami. Before we go
to the break too. Kelly Katzimanas, who's my wonderful guest
on Thursday, Love and best wishes to her husband who's
got a bit of a health battle on and I
know he watches the show. So we're thinking of him
here on kredline or after the break protests are now
becoming a weekly occurrence. Well not under my watch as
a Victorian opposition leader. If elected, he'll stamp it out.
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He's got a plan, he joins me after the break clast.
You won't believe the sort of training that's now being
prioritized for childcare workers, all about gender and not the
safety of children. Welcome back still to come, no wonder
we have a crisis in childcare when gender identity is
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being prioritized, have a health and safety training for children.
The first is in Melbernie, and I can tell you
people have had a gut full of the now weekly
protest that attract the usual rabble of anti Israel thugs
right out of activist central casting most weekends. After the
events of last weekend caused headlines all around the world,
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and our reputation is one of anti Semitism and weak
government responses. I'm pleased to say we haven't got that
today from the Victorian opposition leader who's released his own
plan to restore law and order. And I'm pleased to
say it was about action, not more words. The leader
at brad Batton joins me, now you know, I don't
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know whether it's your police experience or whether you're like
everybody else down here who said I've just had enough.
I've had enough of the words, the handwrigging, the talk.
But this platform you'll put out today's got a lot
of people talking, a lot of notice. Take us through
what you want to see happen.
Speaker 9 (29:49):
Obviously we know Melbourn's out of control. We've seen it
too much. And I can speak from the former police
officer having to be involved in protest frontline at the frontline,
or a small business owner whose businesses get closed because
these protests happening so often. So we've actually said we're
going to come out with a registration system. So we're
going to say to people, if you register your event
the Victoria or the protest, the Victoria police can work
with you to make sure you've still got your freedom
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of speech. It's just a matter of location. Are they
going down the same route every time? Is it going
to be safe, what police resources? It keeps the community safer.
Those that don't opt to do that, which is generally
going to be the ones we're seeing quite regularly at
the moment, then they'll lose some of their rights for
that protest, and we'll be saying, well, the Victoria Police
will have move on laws to meet, keep the streets running,
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keep businesses open, and make sure people get the opportunity
to live their normal lives without the interference we're seeing
every day. And there's going to be pretty strong penalties
if you don't abide by those move on laws or
you return to an exclusion zone.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah. I don't think we tolerate anymore these protesters pro
Palestinian and other activists who want to stand outside a
synagogue or want to as we saw on Friday night,
go after an Israeli owned business. I mean, go there
and pro to somewhere fair enough in the city, use
your registration model, but not where it's meant to be
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intimidation and threatening behavior. I mean, that's where I think
we all draw a line.
Speaker 9 (31:10):
Yeah, there's a big difference between standing outside of the
Victorian Parliament with a sign that says I'm protesting X.
We've got no problem with that. Actually, I encourage that,
that's part of our democracy. I do have an issue
when they go to a restaurant and they're targeting people
because of a faith or because of their back or.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
A synagoge on Friday night synagogue.
Speaker 9 (31:27):
Was offensive and we've seen this too often now. And
if this was a once off story, I'd be glad
to come on Sky and say it's a once off
and moving on. It's not. This is every week we
are seeing people who are coming in and the Jewish
community genuinely have fear coming back into mel Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
So I spoke of the night with Charlie Perscina, former
police detective Victorian police detective, who says, when we lost
the move on laws in twenty fifteen when they were
repealed by Daniel Andrews, police have had a really hard
job ever since to maintain control. You're committing to put them.
Speaker 9 (31:56):
Back in, they will come back in and then things
like where we're seeing people super glue themselves to the roads,
we'll be making sure the police have the powers to
move them on. If they don't move on, they will
be arrested. It's not an if or a but it's
a definite they'll be arrested.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
What do you make of those reports this week though,
that the police had told this is high up police
officials had told the police on the ground who was
sitting around the corner in a riot squad, don't confront
the protesters. I know that the new commissioners having a
review into that. What do you say to.
Speaker 9 (32:26):
That, Well, I say to the new Chief Commissioner, Mike Bush,
you need to come out and tell.
Speaker 12 (32:30):
The public what you're doing.
Speaker 9 (32:30):
Because he's still yet to front the media on this.
I think that's a bigger issue. He is the leader
of that organization. If he can't do it, where's the
police minister to come out and explain? If these police
officers were told that, because I can tell you on
the front line, there wouldn't have been a copper inside
that van who says I don't want to go and
protect the community. They would have been directed from management,
whether that's from policy from the government or a decision
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by the new Chief commissioner.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Let's go to childcare because that was a huge issue
obviously last week in Victoria, and you know ramifications will
be there for families for months and months. Seventy charges
one man a childcare center. There is the worry that
some twelve hundred kids are also likely to be at risk.
I spoke to Jess Wilson, your shadow minister. I think
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it was Monday, and she was demanding that Parliament is recalled,
that you stand ready outs the opposition to pass whatever
laws are required to give parents the confidence that the
people that are in these childcare centers don't have a
rap sheet like this bloke allegedly like this bloke. What's
been the response from the government.
Speaker 9 (33:34):
Well, we haven't had a response from the government. They're
not really talking to us at all. We're saying we
stand ready to bring the parliament back. It doesn't have
to be the entire parliament, it needs to be enough
members there to have a qorum because this is too important.
It's not about parliament, it's not about politics. This is
about protecting kids. The government's answer is another task force.
They've come out now with their terms of reference and
I think one of the most offensive things I've seen
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in this terms of reference is they're saying now that
we need to refer back to the twenty twenty two
Ombinson Report. We don't need to refer back to it.
We need action, and the way to fix that is
bring back parliament and implement the recommendations two.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
What's going on?
Speaker 9 (34:10):
Why would you need a review? As a parent of
two daughters, mine are obviously older. I couldn't imagine what
these families are going through. And then to hear that
a government says, oh, we're going to review our review
which reviewed another review from the past. When we're sitting
here at the moment and our babies are getting tests
for STIs, this in itself is absolutely offensive. The government
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have no excuse. Bring the parliament.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Back all right, just before we go bad polls, lots
of internal fighting. Convince victorians you can turn this around. Yeah,
we can turn it around.
Speaker 9 (34:41):
We've got a long way to go to the next election,
and poles do come and go, and we've seen it
in history. We've been behind before. I'm confident though, we're
going to be going out there and talking about the
things that are really important. We're already talking about law
and order with break bail or face jail because we
don't want to see offenders, violent offenders go back on
the street. We know that housing is a massive crisis,
and we've all already said that we'll scrap the stamp
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duty for all first home buyers up to a million dollars.
That will have a big impact and put money back
in people's pockets. And we know that energy is a
massive issue here in Victoria, and David Davis is doing
a great job in getting our policy ready so the
community can know that not only will keep the lights on,
we'll keep the prices down.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
All right, keep talking to us because this is the
stuff people we're in a focus on. Great, Thanks Beta,
all right. Sticking with that current childcare crisis, Australian Newspapers
Today has shockingly revealed the government sanctioned training for childcare
workers prioritizes lessons on gender identity before they learn about
child health and safety. The training materials to students must
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understand how individuals affected by and I quote culture raised, ethnicity, disability,
gender and gender identification. I mean this is for childcare,
intergenerational disadvantage. It says family types, sexual orientation and the
sexual identity and socioeconomic circumstances. Joining me now, the Australian's
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Education editor and Natasha bitter Well, I don't know you
go through that list and we're talking, Natasha about kids
that are two and one and a half and babies
in nappies. Surely looking after the health and safety of
these kids is paramount to their sexual orientation as a toddler.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
Yes, Peter, this woke ideology has infected every part of
our education system and we've all become very used to
this being in university courses has no place at the
top of the list of modules for students learning how
to look after children. Safety is paramounts. Safety should be
the top the first thing that should be required as
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a first aid certificate. They should be learning what to
do if a toddler is choking on a piece of apple,
how to change a nappy safely. However, you know, the
ideology has gone right through the childcare training courses. So
is there any one that we have a shortage of
very valuable staff working in this sector when they have
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to plow through these sorts of training modules and often
write essays on it as well.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
I was shocked when I read your story today, Natasha,
because I had no idea. I just thought all of
that sort of basic rudimentary training first day and all
of that stuff was there, and this was sort of
the value add that the underpinnings were safe. I mean,
many many years ago, I was a boarding mistress at
a girl's boarding school and I had to have all
the certificates and all the training, and these kids were
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almost adults. But we're talking about babies here.
Speaker 6 (37:39):
Look, this is serious because in the schooling sector we
have much tighter controls than we do in childcare, where
the children are at their most vulnerable. Babies cannot walk
or talk, they can't communicate if there's a problem. We
have very chronic staff shortages right through the childcare sector
because frank they'd earn just as much money and have
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a much easier job working in a shop or flipping
burgers or in a call center. I argue that the
work that they are doing is some of the most
important and valued work in the country. We're not giving
them the tools they need to work efficiently. The problem
is as a loophole because we are so short staffed
in the sector. Trainees can go in without a qualification
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so long as they are studying and the first item
at the top of the agenda is inclusion and diversity,
So they could potentially be in a center for three
months or six months without any first aid training or skills.
Not knowing how to change nappy, not knowing what's safe
for children to eat, how to feed them, how they
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should sleep. These are fundamental issues, and I would argue
that we have an emergency in the childcare sector. Given
what's happened in Melbourne, this is an emergency and we
still have ministers waiting an the months to talk about
a national register for childcare staff. We already have national
registers of teachers, so any school can look up a
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potential job seeker and see where they've worked, see if
there's been any disciplinary action, if they've been struck off.
You can't do that for childcare. I wrote about this
two years ago and they still haven't done it.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Goodness be and we know the Morcams went child sex registers.
We know that other governments have come out in recent
days saying they're going to get tough on the permit
system for working for children and not allow people who
are under investigation, as we saw last weekend in Victoria.
A bloke in Horsham now convicted of child sex crimes,
but when he was under investigation for two years was
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still allowed to work in a childcare center. I tell
you what all strengths here are. And Natasha keep writing
about this, keep exposing it. I'll keep running it here
on the show. But I'm indebted to what you put
into the paper this morning. Thank you all Right, after
the break, We're going to talk to Chris Merritz about
the Indigenous Voice Victoria and the billions and billions of
compensation that are likely to flow. But first up, I
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want to get into that shocking inquiry today out of
the Queensland CFME Youth Welcome Back coming up in a
moment across to London for the migrant fallout and from
the visit yesterday of the French president as Britain also
prepares for a second state visit from none other than
Donald Trump. Sophie Elsewhere might give out PM some tips here,
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given how well the UK Labor PM gets along with
the Republican US president. But first to the inquiry that
it's exposed Queensland CMFU CFM EU for running a violent
and misogynistic regime and the former leaders Michael rav Barant
Jade Ingram. The report revealed threats, abuse and harassment targeting women,
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children and opponents. C IFMU administrator Mark Irving called the
behavior deplorable and has started giving senior staff the boot, vowing,
he says, to end the toxic culture. Let's discuss this
now with rule of law institutes. Chris Merrit, Chris, look,
this behavior isn't you right. This is how the CFMEU operates.
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It's how it's operated for years and years and years.
So why aren't these met in Jyle? Why don't we
shut down the union for good? We did it with
the BLF many years ago. Why not now?
Speaker 13 (41:26):
Well, Hi Peter, it's great to be with you. This
is a shocking report, but it's shocking for reasons which
you might find a little bit surprising. This is not
a report of an independent tribunal. It's not a report
of a judicial tribunal.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
This is a.
Speaker 13 (41:44):
Private report commissioned by the administrator of the CFMEU by
a Sydney barrister. It outlines accusations that of their nature
are very very serious. It accuses to former officials of
the union of possibly directing a campaign of violence. Those
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officials are named in the report. The report also then
goes on to say that the Sydney barrister who produced
this report has not spoken to those two officials. It
makes a series of recommendations, but the one that's clearly
missing is sending these accusations. And that's what they are.
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They're simply accusations to the police for further investigation. These
are very serious accusations. What I'm worried about is now
that they've been made public and politicians have reached conclusions,
very public conclusions about this, it could have an adverse
impact on what is clearly foreseeable now, which is criminal
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proceedings before a real court. This is not the way
proper process should be conducted.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
You make some mention about comments from politicians. I think
I've got a set of comments from Jared Bligh, who
is the Deputy premier in Queensland. Have we got them yep.
Let's have a listen to those.
Speaker 14 (43:14):
A daughter of a workplace health and safety inspector intimidated
and bullied at a gymnasium. They found the details of
family members. They threatened people physically sexually said a bullet
has your name on it.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
All right? That underscoredure point there, Chris. I'll leave that there.
I want to go to the Voice now because Victoria
is going to go it alone despite Victorians in the
referendum voting against the Voice. The state government is going
to bring in a version of its own. They are
going to also look at treaties and I say treaties
with a plural right across the state and the previous
says she hasn't ruled out compensation. They're not calling it
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compensation anymore. They're not calling it reparations anymore. This is
the the word salad game that goes on. It's now
called redress. Now, this redress could be in the form
of billions and billions of dollars. And what's this about, Chris.
Speaker 13 (44:15):
It's again about a lack of proper process. Redress is
one of the recommendations in this massive report that's been
produced by the Eurook Commission. But those recommendations rest on
findings of fact. And if we can believe a report,
a very important report that was published in the Melbourne Age,
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not all of those findings of fact are supported by
a majority of the commissioners, the your Rook commissioners who
signed off on this report, a majority actually does not
support some of those findings of facts. So if the
findings of fact only, if some of the findings of
fact are only supported by a minority of the commissioners,
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how on earth can any recommendation be given any credence.
Now that's before you hop into the procedure used by
this commission, which is ahistorical in that it did not
test assertions that have been made to the Commission. Now,
it did not seek the other side of the argument.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
And it didn't look at any real primary source. So
I mean a lot of it is an oral tradition.
Of course, I'm not saying the oral tradition isn't wrong,
but it's very hard to declare it factual without any
of the steps you've just spoken about. Thank you, Chris. Well.
I know we'll come back to this time and time again.
Of course, if we're going to have treaties at a
local government level and a state government level, and god forbid, federally,
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this is not going to go off the agenda. Thank you,
Chris Merritt. All right, quick break back in a moment.
Welcome back. Let's go to the UK. Now. French President
Emmanuel Macron and his wife have been in Britain with
deal expected to be thrashed down over the immigrant crisis
that's unfolding on Britain's shores, with a lot of the migrants,
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of course, crossing the channel from France. There's a new
record there too, twenty thousand migrants crossing the channel illegally
in just the last six months. Kiss Darma and the
French leader are expected to unveil a one in one
out returns policy that will give Labor the power to
send up to fifty migrant boats a week back to France,
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juming out to talk through this all. This is very
reminiscent of Operation Sovereign Borders of a version News Corps
European correspondent so over elswhere well, so as I said,
it's got a lot here about Operations Sovereign Borders, but
it is a crisis and I'll tell you what. The
French can't wash their hands of this, can.
Speaker 15 (46:46):
They great to be with you, Pete and know they
certainly can't wash their hands of this. President Macron is
on his third day here in the UK for this
state visit and this has been top of the agen.
It's been an extreme headache for Sakia Starmer because not
forgetting he abandoned the Rwanda plan when he came into
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office in July last year, and the illegal boat migrants
coming into this country continue to soar. So it's expected
today that the two of them, the French President and
Sakias Starmer, will have a press conference later this afternoon
local time and hopefully ideally struck to try and resolve
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this crisis once and for all.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
He said in a speech not so long ago that
Britain was becoming an island of strangers. Now he got
a lot of support for those comments, because it's rare
we see from a labor politician calling out that the
cultural aspect of this mass illegal migration. But he's sort
of backtracked on that, hasn't it now.
Speaker 15 (47:51):
He certainly did, Peter, because he realized how controversial that was,
so he walked back those comments recently, which again just
inflame the situation. But he has not got control of this,
There's no doubt about that. It's dominating headlines day in
day out. Here we're seeing the illegal boat migrants rolling
into this country with really nothing to stop them. So
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they really have to come to some resolution today because
this meeting, this three day visit, is at a critical time.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Peter, Yes, and of course the King and the Queen.
We're turning it on the British diplomatic sort of soft
glove was there. We expect the same thing to happen
for President Trump, who will make his second official state
visit to the United Kingdom. Now this is quite unusual too,
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fully royal pomp and ceremony visits, and we know that's
probably going to scratch Trump's belly. He's already got a
deal or kissed Arma's already got a deal on tariffs.
What can you give poor old Anthony or Albanesi in
terms of tips. We don't have a royal family here,
we can roll. What can we do to get on
the good side of Donald Trump? Really?
Speaker 15 (49:05):
Sekia Starmer has tried to keep this relationship between the
two in very good Nick and he's managed to reduce
the tariffs here on various industries, which has been a
win for Britain, and he said it will save jobs,
but it remains to be seen if the same can
be done in Australia. So he's playing this relationship Peter
extremely carefully because he knows the damage that these high
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tariffs can cause the various industries here in the UK.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
All right, before people say to me, Peter, we do
have a real family, Yes, I understand, but not in residence.
That's the difference. Sophie, enjoy Scotland. I'll catch up with
you next week, all right, have a lovely weekend. Everybody,
see you on Monday night.
Peter Krandland live on Sky News Australia.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
How good has Caroline been hosting? Chris kennyways been on
Leeds's been fantastic, good evening, Welcome to the program. Here's
what's coming up tonight on Kredline. The release today of
the Federal government's report into anti Semitism, or should I
say the report from a special envoy. There was no
action announced from the PM, which shast more words well
enough with the words as a Victorian opposition leader, he's
announced action to deal with anti Israel protesters and all
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their violence. The former police officer Brad Batman joins me shortly,
no wonder we've got a crisis of childcare when the
training priorities gender identity before health and safety. And Queensland
today announces mandatory safety training for childcare workers. Now am
I the only one surprises? Isn't already mandatory? What about
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the other states? Plus the shocking report exposing the extent
of c IFVU thuggery, allegations of death threats, violence, misogyny,
even targeting of children. So what needs to happen to
make sure Labour's union mates are brought into line? And
while Jillian Siegel's done her work to come up with
a plan for the government to combat the scourge of
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anti Semitism. Unfortunately, and I'll go through this in a moment,
there was very little that was real from the actions
of the government today.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
This is a scourge that needs to be pushed to
the margin so that it is not part of the
Australia that we have.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
We'll stay with that issue because after billing today is
a big day for combating andti Semitism. All we got
from the Prime Minister was more talk because he mows
the usual platitudes. The Jew hatred was despicable and should
be met with the full force of the law.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Despite a weekend of violence in Melbourne and all the
other crimes that have happened to Jews, the fire bombing
now of three synagogues, the torching of cars, rampages through
restaurants and in timidary marches on most weekends in many
of our cities, all we got from the Alberdezer government
was that handing over of the report from their Special
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Envoy on anti Semitism, nothing more.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
And I welcomed this report and I thank her for
the work that she has done anti Semitism is an
evil scourge and there is no place in Australia for
anti Semitism. The kind of hatred and violence that we've
seen on our streets recently is despicable and it won't
be tolerated. And I want tho its responsible.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
For the government not to have on the table today
their response to the Seagul Reporter at a bare minimum,
a list of five or six of the most urgent
things they can progress immediately. Well, I think that's an insult,
not just the Jewish Australians, but to every one of us.
Do and gentile alike. Regard what's being allowed to fester
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and grow in our community as an abomination. Now, nothing
the Prime Minister said today will stop anti Semitism. Essentially,
what we got was more high minded hand ringing and
not the action, not the leadership that's desperately needed. So
what did Siegul recommend in her report? Well, the report's
recommendations that the government welcomed called for training of border
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force officials to spot and deport anti Semites, a national
standard definition of anti Jewish bigotry, cuts to the funding
and the loss of charitable status for institutions that don't
effectively deal with antisemitism, an anti semitism report card for
our universities and clear editorial standards for the ABC. Now
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it's hard to disagree with any of that, but not
one of those things were actually adopted by the government today. Instead,
they just said they're being considered.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Will now carefully consider the report recommendations. There's a number
of the in here that we are doing. As a
number of things can be implemented quickly, there are a
number of things that will require work over a period on.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
And Yet as I watched the PM and Tony Burke
stand there today with their concerned faces turned on, I thought, seriously,
does anyone think this government, this government that gave three
thousand tourist visas to people from the terrorist controlled war
zone of Gaza, is suddenly going to crack down on
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anti Semitic visa applicants. I mean, does anyone really think
the ABC's reporting will change, or that university is going
to change their behavior, or that the funding would be
cut by the government should there be more anti Semitic
encampments or more due hatred from activist academics. It's just
so typical of this government that it would release a
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report without also releasing a plan to implement it. And
it's hard to take today those expressions of concerns seriously
from the likes of Tony Burke, when the Home Affairs
Minister ostentatiously failed to condemn the eruptions of anti semitism
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immediately after the October seven atrocity. Now look at Burke today.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
We all wish that we could have a plan for
the obliteration of antisemitism. History has a very different and
sad message, but this is about pushing it absolutely to
the margins, because this form of bigotry is absolutely an
attack on Australia.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
And yet here's what was said in his own electoral
backyard on October eight, before there even been one act
of retaliation by Israel for the atrocities that had happened
twenty four hours earlier on October seven.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
I'm smiling, I.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
Mean.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
And what was Burke's response to that at the time. Well, first,
RP he refused to condemn those inflammatory remarks, as any
MP should have condemned them, and then he tried to
put October seven, he said, into some sort of false
context before the seventh book turners.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
I think it's worth remembering, because sometimes.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Forgotten he can.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
You're what. There can be no context, historical or otherwise
that can justify the rape and murder of babies, women's children,
and innocence. Even today, the Prime Minister couldn't avoid criticizing
Israel and his typical moral equivalence between liberal democratic Israel
and the hummasd terrorist death cults. Well, that adds further
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insult to injury.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
I will continue to support the legitimate aspirations of the
Palestinian people for their own state, but I will continue
to oppose terrorist organizations like Commas. I'll continue to speak
out on the need for aid into Gaza and for
humanitarian concerns.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I mean, it's such a far cry from the Labor
Party of Bob Hawk, isn't it, who famously declare that
if the bell tolls for Israel, it told for all mankind?
And also a far cry too from the Labor Party
of Doc ever To. As General Assembly President, led the
United Nations to approve the creation of the State of Israel. Indeed,
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the first country to vote for the partition to create
the modern state of Israel was Australia. Now sadly, the
rampant Jew Hayes. That's been so evident since October seven.
One change is a result of anything announced today that
we know. Additional prosecutions, no additional deportations, no better policing
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of hate speech, and certainly no bans on the intimtry
pro Hamas marches and our routine in our suburbs, particularly
in Melbourne, on anti Semitism, as on so much else.
This is a government that's better at striking a pose
than making a difference. It can't effectively crack down on
due hatred, just as it can't effectively manage our relationship
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with our most important ally. Next week, the PM will
spend six days in communist China, and that's clearly a
higher priority for him than spending six minutes with a
leader of the free world. This is his second high
level official visit to Beijing. Clearly our Prime Minister seems
more comfortable spending time with President g whom he's already
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met four times, than President Trump, whom he's never met
but has admitted he's scared of.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
We have an alliance with the US, We're going to
deal with him, but that doesn't mean that you're uncritical
about it. He scared it out of me.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Granted that Donald Trump commit thin skinned and transactional, it's
still vital RPM has a working relationship with the US President.
For someone who's never stopped waving around his Medicare car
during the election campaign, you think the PM would be
rushing to Washington, wouldn't you, to counter Big Farmer's latest
attack on our PBS. The threatened two hundred percent tariffs
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on Australian pharmaceutical exports to America are almost certainly an
attempt to extract higher prices here for American patented drugs.
In the end that will inevitably mean high health costs
for Australians or, at the very least taxpayers who fund
the system. Then news Orcas, I mean, why would America
do more to defend Australia that Australia is prepared to
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do for itself. Why would America has been nearly four
percent of its money on defense to protect allies like
us when we can scarcely spend two percent ourselves. Why
would America give US three of its nuclear powered submarines
without a clear understanding that they'd be on America's side
in any showdown over Taiwan. Most of the labour Party
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only supported Orcus to avoid the charge of being weak
on national security back in the Morrison era. But Labor
hates nuclear power and they know that their opposition to
nuclear power on land can't survive support for nuclear power
at sea. Meaning it's hard to avoid the conclusion that
deep down Anthony Imeneasy wants to torpedo Orcus, but that
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he wants Donald Trump to be the one who first
walks away. The loss of Orcus would put the whole
US Alliance as in peril. But that's where it's headed
under this government. Divided here at home, pretty friendless overseas.
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All right, let's got a cameraon out for the headlines.
Sky News putical reporter can Redden.
Speaker 8 (11:14):
Good Evening, the government's Special Envoy wants racists deported and
university funding pulled to combat antisemitism.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Anti Semitism is an evil scourge.
Speaker 8 (11:25):
Special Envoy Gillian Siegel wants tougher visa screening to identify
people harboring hateful views and for non citizens involved in
acts of antisemitism to be deported.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
For people making these decisions need to understand what else
is going on.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
There's a number of things in here that we are
doing There's a number of things can be implemented quickly.
There are a number of things that will require work
over a period of time.
Speaker 9 (11:51):
Why bother going through this exercise unless we implement these.
Speaker 8 (11:54):
As the Trump administrations review into ORCUS continues, there are
reports the Pentagon could ask Australia to pay more for
its submarine program.
Speaker 10 (12:03):
We are entitled to try and influence that process.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Where the ones putting the money on the table. This
is a shakedown.
Speaker 8 (12:11):
Cameron Reddin's Sky News Canberra.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I'll come back to today's relation of the anti seventis are
import by Jillian Siegel. In a moment, we'll speak with
former Labor MP Michael Danby. But plenty of other issues
I want to get across. Now, join a met to
do that debuit. Executive director at the Institute of Public
Affairs Daniel Wild And here with me and Melbourne broadcaster
Carolie Katzimbarnas. Welcome to you both. I want to start
with this controversial plan to tax unrealized capital gains and
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reports today the Treasurer is seeking to expand his already
contentious tax sike without parliamentary proven of This is really
interesting in legislative drafting terms, because he wants to use
a little known clause known as the Henry the eighth
Clause Constitutional Law X with Greg Crave and has unpacked
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all of this today, says it allow the Treasurer to
adjust key parts of the plan once you see is
how much money it's bringing in, as if the proposal
wasn't bad enough. The Treasurer also lets slip he's spoken
to Paul Keating about the plan.
Speaker 11 (13:16):
I don't want to verbal him. I don't want to
go into private conversations. I don't think it would surprise
any of you or anyone listening to learn that I
speak with Paul Keating relatively regularly, not just about this issue,
but about a whole range of issues.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Now, Dan a couple of things here. I hope he
is listening to Ketting, as we know. Ketting's an opponent
of this tax, is certainly upset that it's not index.
But I'll tell you what. Back to the legislation. I
mean building in the legislation ways to broaden the scope
of it the tax without then going back to the Parliament.
That should alarm every tax payer. And I think it's
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also alarming in governance terms, given this will end up,
I reckon by stealth some sort of depth tax.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Well, you're exactly right, Peter. I mean this is an
extraordinary power grab, an abuse of power. When we look
at the relevant section that we're discussing here, which is
section two ninety six sixty, which is what Professor Craven
was talking about. What's so extraordinary about this, Peter, is
would actually give the Treasurer the ability to make changes
to the law based on circumstances pertaining to individuals, So
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he could change it not just in relation to broad considerations,
but would be able to target it towards individuals, which
violates every single principle of the rule of law, which
is that the law should be applied fairly and equally
to everybody, and also that the law is knowable and
transparent to the community. There's simply no way of knowing
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how these proposed changes to the laws would work, because
there would be so much power vested in the treasure
himself to make subjective decisions in regarding to how how
exactly as you have said, to increase taxes on Australians
without any checks and balances going through Parliament. It really
is quite extraordinary, and I think that Australians and as
you say, taxpayers in particular are right to be alarmed
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by this.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Let's go to stuff I touched the top of the
show about our sort of deteriorating relationship with the United States.
There's reports to the Nine Paper suggesting that it's part
of the Trump administration's review of ORCUS. They're going to
demand we pay more than we currently do currently. It's
three hundred and sixty eight billion. That's surprise tag for
these three Virginia Class subs, and that will also provide
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a guarantee should they require this is the US those subs.
In any conflict with Taiwan, we would step up to
the mark. This prompted James Patterson to call our diplomats
in Washington to do their job, he says, and get
some clarity around this issue.
Speaker 10 (15:53):
We are entitled to try and influence that process, and
any country with any diplomatic heft or ability to move
quickly would be all over this. We should be able
to save UCAS, but we are not going to save
aucas if we just let this thing on cruise, if
we don't take charge of it, if the Prime Minister
doesn't personally take charge of.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
It, and There was also a call from Bridge McKenzie
saying that, you know, Kevin ryme's really in the hot
scene here. Who's got to step up himself and fix
a relationship or do better in terms of meetings and negotiations.
Certainly on the heel, I mean, curly it would be
in expectation under ANSAs. So we all know the Answers
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Treaty that if there was a conflict and the United
States was involved, that they would be able to call
on us. I don't think you need to amplify it
or restate it again for Orcus. But I'll tell you what,
this relationship's got pretty bad. I think we've got to
think about changing out Kevin run, don't we, Peter, We
certainly do it.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
I'm certainly not backwards in coming forwards with this, so
I said on the no November the fifth, when it
first came out that.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Kevin right had.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
Not deleted those tweets that he'd done in the texts
that he'd done as well. I mean, he's called Trump
the village iliot, he's called him the most destructive president
in history, and he's also called him a trader to
the West. It's not going to end well. We're eight
months now and there's been no face to face interview
with Donald Trump. All other meetings have been rescheduled for
other countries. The bottom line is Kevin Rudd, despite the history,
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despite being a Prime Minister of Australia, he's not doing
the job that he is there to do as the
Australian ambassador to the United States. We have got problems
with our tariffs, we've got problems with copper. Now pharmaceuticals
also steal and aluminum. He's not doing his job. And
I do have to say I think that Kevin Rudd
would probably react in exactly the same way if someone
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did the same to him. We know that he's got
a huge ego. We know what went on in his
administration as well. The bottom line is Kevin Rodd needs
to have the integrity and actually step down and say
I've done all i can do.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
But here's a novel thing I'm going to leave you with.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
Rud's always been very proud that he speaks fluent Chinese Mandarin.
Trump speaks a lot to Jijing Ping. So how about
Rud starts using those contacts or reaching out to Xijing Ping,
and maybe Xijingping is the one that can get alban
Ezy an interview with Trump face to face, because it's
actually got to that. I mean, it's absolutely evident that
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we're being frozen out.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
And also I.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
Think alban Ezi has to have a very serious think.
We cannot have a foot in both camps in the
Indo Pacific region with the relationship with China and the
message that it is sending out to the Trump administration.
It's loud and clear. Eight months on, no meeting. This
is ridiculous. Rud should resign and if he doesn't resign,
he needs to be removed by the Albanese government.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
It is stupid, I tell you what, Caroly I also
think too the optics of us heading off to Beijing.
This is the second time you've had an official visit
by our Prime minister to Beijing. They've had four meetings,
but we've gone there twice. Ji has not come to
Australia under the current Prime minister's watch. So we look
like the supplicant here, don't we, Dan, Because this is
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not just a fly by night trip tacked on to
another visit in sort of summit season. This is six days,
all singing, all dancing, three capital cities and all the time.
Of course, we've got this continuing watch on China pushing
around the region, and this expectation of conflict in Taiwana
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in and around twenty twenty seven. This is not going
to help us in Washington either.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Well, it's certainly not. And I think the issue here
is a couple of things. One is you've got a
government that's not serious about international affairs. It would rather
play petty domestic politics and to make decisions based on
personalities than what's in our national interest. I agree with
the Prime Minister when he says that decisions on our
national security should be made by Australia and not another country.
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But there's no serious person that would think that Australia
would have the capacity need to defend ourselves in the
event that we would need to do so. The reality
is we are not prepared for conflict in our region
and we need to have a strong alliance with the
United States. Yes, that alliance is founded on our shared
values and our cultural similarities, but the United States also
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needs to be able to get something out of that alliance,
and that will mean increasing our defense spending, spending that
money on more effective matters. But also engaging in a
more serious way and understanding exactly as you said sometime
later in this decade, there is every chance that the
Chinese Communist Party will seek to, if not actually intervene
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in Taiwan, and in which case you know it's going
to be a guns up, kinetic warfare and we need
to be ready for that.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
And all around the same time, we in Australia are
looking at the defense budget saying we're not doing what
the rest of the world is doing, with two percent
behind where NATO got to a couple of weeks ago,
the US and looking at us saying lift g game. Well,
our defense Department's putting out a taxpayer funded defense cookbook,
as if this is something I'm going to save us.
I thought this was a joke initially, but Am Marshall
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Leon Phillips is on the record saying he believes in
the incredible power of food. I don't know about that.
I'm much more interested in the power of missiles and
frigates and f thirty fives. I mean, really and truly,
this is not a homeic class Kily. This is crazy,
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
I mean, at least Peter didn't have the guts to
actually say you need to get rid of this complete
woke agenda with the ADF. We know that Richard Mules
has also said that they're going to be getting rid of,
you know, twenty five to forty star generals as well.
This is ridiculous and the cost of it. Are meant
to be working on domestic missiles, our production of domestic missiles.
I don't know how long it takes an egg to boil,
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but I tell you what, it's probably. You know, they've
got to get on and do these missiles.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
It's nuts. I'll over there, move on. Thank you both
for your time. Let's go now to that announcement today
or the release of her report to the government. Special
Envoy Anti Semitism, Gillian Siegel, she gave. The report to
the government includes a whole host of recommendations, including the
cutting of funding to universities and arts bodies who fail
to crack down on anti Jewish bigotry. It also recommends
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deportations of people who hate Jews out of Australia. However,
the PM has refused to commit to any of the recommendations,
despite the fact that they came from his own handpicked.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Envoy Will now carefully consider the report recommendations. There's a
number of things in here that we are doing. There's
a number of things can be implemented quickly. There are
a number of things that will require work over a
period of time.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Joing me now, past chair of the Parliament's Foreign Affairs
and Defense Committee, former Labor MP Michael Danby, will tell
you what, Michael. All these recommendations like cutting like cutting
of funding to arts bodies, universities, all the people that
hate the Jews, We've seen that at many events. You've
got the deportation of people who are biggots against Jews
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out of this country, the removal of hate preachers. You know,
none of this requires special laws, none of these needs
special powers. It all could have been done up until
now it hasn't been. So they get a report today
saying it must happen, it's urgent, get on with it.
And all we got then today was yet more words.
Speaker 12 (23:27):
Yeah, it's a bit like the review here in Victoria,
isn't it, Peter, that the premier is going to do.
People know what to do. I mean, Tony Burke doesn't
have to send Hassan Australia. Hesbilla's portraitist to the Venice
Bienali to represent Australia. If we're talking about arts funding.
It's nice that the Prime Minister and the report talk
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about enforcing the law with Australian universities, but as you said,
they could have done that a lot earlier, and we
were the one who actually stopped having an inquiry like
they did in the United States. Remember the famous Stefanic
interrogations of the leading universities. We should have done that.
So I think Burke and Albert realize that this bigotry
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has got out of control, as as you advised more
than a year ago, and they will agree to some
of these recommendations, but at least Siegeler has put them up.
I'm worried that it's a civic society problem. How could
it be, Peter that here in Melbourne, the state member
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for Melbourne, Ellen Sandal, the head of the toxic Green,
bigoted racist party, has not said a word about the
attack on the synagogue in her electorate. Where is she?
Where are the toxic Greens? How can they possibly be
elected at the next elections. Liberal and Labor should both
make sure that we preference against them. And it's not
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just what the Prime Minister does or recommendation that reporting.
It is up to all of us to take action.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I know, but people take their accues from the government,
you know that. I mean, look at the footage I
played again tonight of Tony Burke the day after the atrocities.
So October eight, we're talking about people celebrating in his
own electorate what had happened in Israel before Israel had
fired one rocket in retaliation, and he says, oh, we've
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got to have some historical context about all of this.
You know, he's now in charge of delivering us back
our country that used to not see race and religion
as points of division. But it's all been licensed for
a year and a half. Now, how do you turn
this around? And how long, Michael, do we give them
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to put this report into action? How long do you
give the government?
Speaker 12 (25:53):
Well, I don't give them any time at all. They
should should implement some of the recommendations straight away. It's
so alarming. They're obviously not Bob Hawk or Kim Beasley
or even Bill Shorten or Julia Gillard, are they? Peter.
I mean, you showed footage that's got nothing to do
with the Jewish issue. Of all of those black clad
men are having a festival parade, a really threatening parade
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around Saint Patrick's Cathedral. The old wisdom is it starts
with the Jews and then everyone else suffers. So I
hope the new police commissioner in Victoria is monitoring the
social media from now on and we don't have any
more attacks like that we did at the Mizzenon cafe
on Friday night, because the next thing that will happen
the landlight in the sand they'll have to draw under
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it is if someone is killed, and I fear that's
that's coming.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
What about the comments today at of New South Wales
from the Director of Public Schools that it's not up
to them to police pro Palestinian t shirts or cafeas
in the classroom. Now the department has its own code.
It says we don't support or can dine any encouragement
by staff for students to adopt political or religious views.
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But again this is handling and this is someone else's problem,
they say. But they're not going to step up and
deal with it themselves.
Speaker 12 (27:16):
See, this is the problem of having so many weak
and woke bureaucrats, either magistrates to let people out on
bail or these pathetic New South Wales Education commissioners. Chris
Mins is the Premier of New South Wales and if
he gives them an instruction they are to obey it.
All of this problem got worse in Australia and worse
for all Australian It's not just the small Jewish committee
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of one hundred and twenty thousand people. When the cops failed
to do what they instinctively should have done on the
ninth of October, that defamed Australia all around the world.
When those people were standing on the steps yelling out
gas the Jews. I don't believe it was where's the Jews?
I've listened to it myself many times. They admitted that
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it was gas the who they would have had to
go out to the western suburbs and arrest some of
the people who said it because it's incitement to violence.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Ill over there. Thank you, Michael Jami. Before we go
to the break too. Kelly Katzimanas, who's my wonderful guest
on Thursday, Love and best wishes to her husband who's
got a bit of a health battle on and I
know he watches the show. So we're thinking of him
here on kredline or after the break protests are now
becoming a weekly occurrence. Well not under my watch as
a Victorian opposition leader. If elected, he'll stamp it out.
(28:29):
He's got a plan, he joins me after the break clast.
You won't believe the sort of training that's now being
prioritized for childcare workers, all about gender and not the
safety of children. Welcome back still to come, no wonder
we have a crisis in childcare when gender identity is
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being prioritized, have a health and safety training for children.
The first is in Melbernie, and I can tell you
people have had a gut full of the now weekly
protest that attract the usual rabble of anti Israel thugs
right out of activist central casting most weekends. After the
events of last weekend caused headlines all around the world,
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and our reputation is one of anti Semitism and weak
government responses. I'm pleased to say we haven't got that
today from the Victorian opposition leader who's released his own
plan to restore law and order. And I'm pleased to
say it was about action, not more words. The leader
at brad Batton joins me, now you know, I don't
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know whether it's your police experience or whether you're like
everybody else down here who said I've just had enough.
I've had enough of the words, the handwrigging, the talk.
But this platform you'll put out today's got a lot
of people talking, a lot of notice. Take us through
what you want to see happen.
Speaker 9 (29:49):
Obviously we know Melbourn's out of control. We've seen it
too much. And I can speak from the former police
officer having to be involved in protest frontline at the frontline,
or a small business owner whose businesses get closed because
these protests happening so often. So we've actually said we're
going to come out with a registration system. So we're
going to say to people, if you register your event
the Victoria or the protest, the Victoria police can work
with you to make sure you've still got your freedom
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of speech. It's just a matter of location. Are they
going down the same route every time? Is it going
to be safe, what police resources? It keeps the community safer.
Those that don't opt to do that, which is generally
going to be the ones we're seeing quite regularly at
the moment, then they'll lose some of their rights for
that protest, and we'll be saying, well, the Victoria Police
will have move on laws to meet, keep the streets running,
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keep businesses open, and make sure people get the opportunity
to live their normal lives without the interference we're seeing
every day. And there's going to be pretty strong penalties
if you don't abide by those move on laws or
you return to an exclusion zone.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah. I don't think we tolerate anymore these protesters pro
Palestinian and other activists who want to stand outside a
synagogue or want to as we saw on Friday night,
go after an Israeli owned business. I mean, go there
and pro to somewhere fair enough in the city, use
your registration model, but not where it's meant to be
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intimidation and threatening behavior. I mean, that's where I think
we all draw a line.
Speaker 9 (31:10):
Yeah, there's a big difference between standing outside of the
Victorian Parliament with a sign that says I'm protesting X.
We've got no problem with that. Actually, I encourage that,
that's part of our democracy. I do have an issue
when they go to a restaurant and they're targeting people
because of a faith or because of their back or.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
A synagoge on Friday night synagogue.
Speaker 9 (31:27):
Was offensive and we've seen this too often now. And
if this was a once off story, I'd be glad
to come on Sky and say it's a once off
and moving on. It's not. This is every week we
are seeing people who are coming in and the Jewish
community genuinely have fear coming back into mel Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
So I spoke of the night with Charlie Perscina, former
police detective Victorian police detective, who says, when we lost
the move on laws in twenty fifteen when they were
repealed by Daniel Andrews, police have had a really hard
job ever since to maintain control. You're committing to put them.
Speaker 9 (31:56):
Back in, they will come back in and then things
like where we're seeing people super glue themselves to the roads,
we'll be making sure the police have the powers to
move them on. If they don't move on, they will
be arrested. It's not an if or a but it's
a definite they'll be arrested.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
What do you make of those reports this week though,
that the police had told this is high up police
officials had told the police on the ground who was
sitting around the corner in a riot squad, don't confront
the protesters. I know that the new commissioners having a
review into that. What do you say to.
Speaker 9 (32:26):
That, Well, I say to the new Chief Commissioner, Mike Bush,
you need to come out and tell.
Speaker 12 (32:30):
The public what you're doing.
Speaker 9 (32:30):
Because he's still yet to front the media on this.
I think that's a bigger issue. He is the leader
of that organization. If he can't do it, where's the
police minister to come out and explain? If these police
officers were told that, because I can tell you on
the front line, there wouldn't have been a copper inside
that van who says I don't want to go and
protect the community. They would have been directed from management,
whether that's from policy from the government or a decision
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by the new Chief commissioner.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Let's go to childcare because that was a huge issue
obviously last week in Victoria, and you know ramifications will
be there for families for months and months. Seventy charges
one man a childcare center. There is the worry that
some twelve hundred kids are also likely to be at risk.
I spoke to Jess Wilson, your shadow minister. I think
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it was Monday, and she was demanding that Parliament is recalled,
that you stand ready outs the opposition to pass whatever
laws are required to give parents the confidence that the
people that are in these childcare centers don't have a
rap sheet like this bloke allegedly like this bloke. What's
been the response from the government.
Speaker 9 (33:34):
Well, we haven't had a response from the government. They're
not really talking to us at all. We're saying we
stand ready to bring the parliament back. It doesn't have
to be the entire parliament, it needs to be enough
members there to have a qorum because this is too important.
It's not about parliament, it's not about politics. This is
about protecting kids. The government's answer is another task force.
They've come out now with their terms of reference and
I think one of the most offensive things I've seen
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in this terms of reference is they're saying now that
we need to refer back to the twenty twenty two
Ombinson Report. We don't need to refer back to it.
We need action, and the way to fix that is
bring back parliament and implement the recommendations two.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
What's going on?
Speaker 9 (34:10):
Why would you need a review? As a parent of
two daughters, mine are obviously older. I couldn't imagine what
these families are going through. And then to hear that
a government says, oh, we're going to review our review
which reviewed another review from the past. When we're sitting
here at the moment and our babies are getting tests
for STIs, this in itself is absolutely offensive. The government
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have no excuse. Bring the parliament.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Back all right, just before we go bad polls, lots
of internal fighting. Convince victorians you can turn this around. Yeah,
we can turn it around.
Speaker 9 (34:41):
We've got a long way to go to the next election,
and poles do come and go, and we've seen it
in history. We've been behind before. I'm confident though, we're
going to be going out there and talking about the
things that are really important. We're already talking about law
and order with break bail or face jail because we
don't want to see offenders, violent offenders go back on
the street. We know that housing is a massive crisis,
and we've all already said that we'll scrap the stamp
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duty for all first home buyers up to a million dollars.
That will have a big impact and put money back
in people's pockets. And we know that energy is a
massive issue here in Victoria, and David Davis is doing
a great job in getting our policy ready so the
community can know that not only will keep the lights on,
we'll keep the prices down.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
All right, keep talking to us because this is the
stuff people we're in a focus on. Great, Thanks Beta,
all right. Sticking with that current childcare crisis, Australian Newspapers
Today has shockingly revealed the government sanctioned training for childcare
workers prioritizes lessons on gender identity before they learn about
child health and safety. The training materials to students must
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understand how individuals affected by and I quote culture raised, ethnicity, disability,
gender and gender identification. I mean this is for childcare,
intergenerational disadvantage. It says family types, sexual orientation and the
sexual identity and socioeconomic circumstances. Joining me now, the Australian's
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Education editor and Natasha bitter Well, I don't know you
go through that list and we're talking, Natasha about kids
that are two and one and a half and babies
in nappies. Surely looking after the health and safety of
these kids is paramount to their sexual orientation as a toddler.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
Yes, Peter, this woke ideology has infected every part of
our education system and we've all become very used to
this being in university courses has no place at the
top of the list of modules for students learning how
to look after children. Safety is paramounts. Safety should be
the top the first thing that should be required as
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a first aid certificate. They should be learning what to
do if a toddler is choking on a piece of apple,
how to change a nappy safely. However, you know, the
ideology has gone right through the childcare training courses. So
is there any one that we have a shortage of
very valuable staff working in this sector when they have
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to plow through these sorts of training modules and often
write essays on it as well.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
I was shocked when I read your story today, Natasha,
because I had no idea. I just thought all of
that sort of basic rudimentary training first day and all
of that stuff was there, and this was sort of
the value add that the underpinnings were safe. I mean,
many many years ago, I was a boarding mistress at
a girl's boarding school and I had to have all
the certificates and all the training, and these kids were
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almost adults. But we're talking about babies here.
Speaker 6 (37:39):
Look, this is serious because in the schooling sector we
have much tighter controls than we do in childcare, where
the children are at their most vulnerable. Babies cannot walk
or talk, they can't communicate if there's a problem. We
have very chronic staff shortages right through the childcare sector
because frank they'd earn just as much money and have
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a much easier job working in a shop or flipping
burgers or in a call center. I argue that the
work that they are doing is some of the most
important and valued work in the country. We're not giving
them the tools they need to work efficiently. The problem
is as a loophole because we are so short staffed
in the sector. Trainees can go in without a qualification
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so long as they are studying and the first item
at the top of the agenda is inclusion and diversity,
So they could potentially be in a center for three
months or six months without any first aid training or skills.
Not knowing how to change nappy, not knowing what's safe
for children to eat, how to feed them, how they
(38:46):
should sleep. These are fundamental issues, and I would argue
that we have an emergency in the childcare sector. Given
what's happened in Melbourne, this is an emergency and we
still have ministers waiting an the months to talk about
a national register for childcare staff. We already have national
registers of teachers, so any school can look up a
(39:08):
potential job seeker and see where they've worked, see if
there's been any disciplinary action, if they've been struck off.
You can't do that for childcare. I wrote about this
two years ago and they still haven't done it.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Goodness be and we know the Morcams went child sex registers.
We know that other governments have come out in recent
days saying they're going to get tough on the permit
system for working for children and not allow people who
are under investigation, as we saw last weekend in Victoria.
A bloke in Horsham now convicted of child sex crimes,
but when he was under investigation for two years was
(39:43):
still allowed to work in a childcare center. I tell
you what all strengths here are. And Natasha keep writing
about this, keep exposing it. I'll keep running it here
on the show. But I'm indebted to what you put
into the paper this morning. Thank you all Right, after
the break, We're going to talk to Chris Merritz about
the Indigenous Voice Victoria and the billions and billions of
compensation that are likely to flow. But first up, I
(40:05):
want to get into that shocking inquiry today out of
the Queensland CFME Youth Welcome Back coming up in a
moment across to London for the migrant fallout and from
the visit yesterday of the French president as Britain also
prepares for a second state visit from none other than
Donald Trump. Sophie Elsewhere might give out PM some tips here,
(40:28):
given how well the UK Labor PM gets along with
the Republican US president. But first to the inquiry that
it's exposed Queensland CMFU CFM EU for running a violent
and misogynistic regime and the former leaders Michael rav Barant
Jade Ingram. The report revealed threats, abuse and harassment targeting women,
(40:52):
children and opponents. C IFMU administrator Mark Irving called the
behavior deplorable and has started giving senior staff the boot, vowing,
he says, to end the toxic culture. Let's discuss this
now with rule of law institutes. Chris Merrit, Chris, look,
this behavior isn't you right. This is how the CFMEU operates.
(41:14):
It's how it's operated for years and years and years.
So why aren't these met in Jyle? Why don't we
shut down the union for good? We did it with
the BLF many years ago. Why not now?
Speaker 13 (41:26):
Well, Hi Peter, it's great to be with you. This
is a shocking report, but it's shocking for reasons which
you might find a little bit surprising. This is not
a report of an independent tribunal. It's not a report
of a judicial tribunal.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
This is a.
Speaker 13 (41:44):
Private report commissioned by the administrator of the CFMEU by
a Sydney barrister. It outlines accusations that of their nature
are very very serious. It accuses to former officials of
the union of possibly directing a campaign of violence. Those
(42:06):
officials are named in the report. The report also then
goes on to say that the Sydney barrister who produced
this report has not spoken to those two officials. It
makes a series of recommendations, but the one that's clearly
missing is sending these accusations. And that's what they are.
(42:29):
They're simply accusations to the police for further investigation. These
are very serious accusations. What I'm worried about is now
that they've been made public and politicians have reached conclusions,
very public conclusions about this, it could have an adverse
impact on what is clearly foreseeable now, which is criminal
(42:54):
proceedings before a real court. This is not the way
proper process should be conducted.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
You make some mention about comments from politicians. I think
I've got a set of comments from Jared Bligh, who
is the Deputy premier in Queensland. Have we got them yep.
Let's have a listen to those.
Speaker 14 (43:14):
A daughter of a workplace health and safety inspector intimidated
and bullied at a gymnasium. They found the details of
family members. They threatened people physically sexually said a bullet
has your name on it.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
All right? That underscoredure point there, Chris. I'll leave that there.
I want to go to the Voice now because Victoria
is going to go it alone despite Victorians in the
referendum voting against the Voice. The state government is going
to bring in a version of its own. They are
going to also look at treaties and I say treaties
with a plural right across the state and the previous
says she hasn't ruled out compensation. They're not calling it
(43:56):
compensation anymore. They're not calling it reparations anymore. This is
the the word salad game that goes on. It's now
called redress. Now, this redress could be in the form
of billions and billions of dollars. And what's this about, Chris.
Speaker 13 (44:15):
It's again about a lack of proper process. Redress is
one of the recommendations in this massive report that's been
produced by the Eurook Commission. But those recommendations rest on
findings of fact. And if we can believe a report,
a very important report that was published in the Melbourne Age,
(44:38):
not all of those findings of fact are supported by
a majority of the commissioners, the your Rook commissioners who
signed off on this report, a majority actually does not
support some of those findings of facts. So if the
findings of fact only, if some of the findings of
fact are only supported by a minority of the commissioners,
(45:02):
how on earth can any recommendation be given any credence.
Now that's before you hop into the procedure used by
this commission, which is ahistorical in that it did not
test assertions that have been made to the Commission. Now,
it did not seek the other side of the argument.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
And it didn't look at any real primary source. So
I mean a lot of it is an oral tradition.
Of course, I'm not saying the oral tradition isn't wrong,
but it's very hard to declare it factual without any
of the steps you've just spoken about. Thank you, Chris. Well.
I know we'll come back to this time and time again.
Of course, if we're going to have treaties at a
local government level and a state government level, and god forbid, federally,
(45:46):
this is not going to go off the agenda. Thank you,
Chris Merritt. All right, quick break back in a moment.
Welcome back. Let's go to the UK. Now. French President
Emmanuel Macron and his wife have been in Britain with
deal expected to be thrashed down over the immigrant crisis
that's unfolding on Britain's shores, with a lot of the migrants,
(46:07):
of course, crossing the channel from France. There's a new
record there too, twenty thousand migrants crossing the channel illegally
in just the last six months. Kiss Darma and the
French leader are expected to unveil a one in one
out returns policy that will give Labor the power to
send up to fifty migrant boats a week back to France,
(46:27):
juming out to talk through this all. This is very
reminiscent of Operation Sovereign Borders of a version News Corps
European correspondent so over elswhere well, so as I said,
it's got a lot here about Operations Sovereign Borders, but
it is a crisis and I'll tell you what. The
French can't wash their hands of this, can.
Speaker 15 (46:46):
They great to be with you, Pete and know they
certainly can't wash their hands of this. President Macron is
on his third day here in the UK for this
state visit and this has been top of the agen.
It's been an extreme headache for Sakia Starmer because not
forgetting he abandoned the Rwanda plan when he came into
(47:08):
office in July last year, and the illegal boat migrants
coming into this country continue to soar. So it's expected
today that the two of them, the French President and
Sakias Starmer, will have a press conference later this afternoon
local time and hopefully ideally struck to try and resolve
(47:28):
this crisis once and for all.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
He said in a speech not so long ago that
Britain was becoming an island of strangers. Now he got
a lot of support for those comments, because it's rare
we see from a labor politician calling out that the
cultural aspect of this mass illegal migration. But he's sort
of backtracked on that, hasn't it now.
Speaker 15 (47:51):
He certainly did, Peter, because he realized how controversial that was,
so he walked back those comments recently, which again just
inflame the situation. But he has not got control of this,
There's no doubt about that. It's dominating headlines day in
day out. Here we're seeing the illegal boat migrants rolling
into this country with really nothing to stop them. So
(48:15):
they really have to come to some resolution today because
this meeting, this three day visit, is at a critical time.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Peter, Yes, and of course the King and the Queen.
We're turning it on the British diplomatic sort of soft
glove was there. We expect the same thing to happen
for President Trump, who will make his second official state
visit to the United Kingdom. Now this is quite unusual too,
(48:42):
fully royal pomp and ceremony visits, and we know that's
probably going to scratch Trump's belly. He's already got a
deal or kissed Arma's already got a deal on tariffs.
What can you give poor old Anthony or Albanesi in
terms of tips. We don't have a royal family here,
we can roll. What can we do to get on
the good side of Donald Trump? Really?
Speaker 15 (49:05):
Sekia Starmer has tried to keep this relationship between the
two in very good Nick and he's managed to reduce
the tariffs here on various industries, which has been a
win for Britain, and he said it will save jobs,
but it remains to be seen if the same can
be done in Australia. So he's playing this relationship Peter
extremely carefully because he knows the damage that these high
(49:28):
tariffs can cause the various industries here in the UK.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
All right, before people say to me, Peter, we do
have a real family, Yes, I understand, but not in residence.
That's the difference. Sophie, enjoy Scotland. I'll catch up with
you next week, all right, have a lovely weekend. Everybody,
see you on Monday night.
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