April 14, 2025 • 42 mins
Plenty to unpack following a double-header campaign launch, the extraordinary intervention to save Britain's last major steel plant. Plus, how Australia’s bloated curriculum is failing our students.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Peter Krandland Live on Sky News Australia.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Good evening, great to have your company as we're kicking
off another week in federal campaign. Let's get into it tonight,
all right, a big weekend. On the weekend we saw,
of course that double header of campaign launches, plenty of
policy giveaways. Will unpack that in a moment. But that
also we'll get into that awkward moment between Anthony Albernezi
and Tanya plever Set which was telling for such a
carefully managed event. More on that at a moment. Last,
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will take a look at the claims by the Teals.
Sort of cash for comment, isn't it. I mean it's
hardly campaigning with integrity. The extraordinary intervention two to save
Britain's last major steel plant from being shut down by
its Chinese owner.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
This is a warning of just.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
How entrans China's become in the West and just how
at risk we are here as well as in Britain
and elsewhere. Last, the work curriculum that's killing the minds
of our children. Now, where's the focus on this in
the camp We've done some investigative work will show the
outcomes tonight. It is a bloated mess and no wonder
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our children are falling behind and another gold blow to
the coalition in the latest News poll. However, Peter Darton
has rammed up his attacks when it comes to the
Greens and Labor and a hung parliament.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
The Prime ministers still continuing with the charade that he
could form a majority government. I think people are setting
through that pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
We'll go first, though, to those two campaign launchers yesterday.
While they were not just on opposite sides of the country,
they almost came from two different universes. In Labour's case,
an almost cocky prime minister claimed that the government had
rescued the economy and created a strong and prosperous Australia,
characterized but an almost sacred devotion to Labour's use of
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Medicare as a stunt.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Labor is a party of Medicare, created it and we
will strengthen it.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
And actually it would all be put at risk by
Peter Dudden, who would cut everything, said the Prime Minister
except tax.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
They had not learned and Peter Dutton will never change.
This is not a time to risk Australia's future by
going back to the failures of the past.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
At the coalition's launch, the Opposition leader declared that living
standards had never fallen so far, so fast, and pledged
to deliver more affordable energy and more affordable housing. Last
greater personal and national security. Australia, he said, can't afford
another three years of labor.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Today I announced a significant tax cut to help Australians.
We're going to help with Labour's cost a living crisis.
I will be a prime Minister who restores the dream
of home ownership. We must grow our economy so that
we're more protected against external shocks. We must shore up
our energy security so that we have an abundance of
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affordable and reliable power that we need for our future.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
In this campaign, as you know, both sides are pledging
cost of living relief. Labor via it's seventy cents a
day tax cut in fifteen months time, the Coalition via
it's fourteen dollars a cut in fuel tax every time
you fill up the tank, and yesterday both campaigns almost
echoed each other, Labor with an automatic annual one thousand
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dollars tax deduction for work expenses, no paperwork required, and
the Coalition with a twelve one hundred dollar tax offset
for everyone earning under one hundred and forty four thousand
dollars a year on both sides too, more on housing,
with five percent deposits for first home buyers from Labor
via a government funded mortgage insurance scheme and from the
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Libs the tax deductibility of mortgage interest repayments for first
home buyers too on the first six hundred and fifty
thousand dollars of a mortgage, a little more in the city,
and only if they buy a new built home. The
Labour reckons. If they can get one hundred thousand new
homes built just for first home buyers, mind you, via
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a new ten billion dollar fund, they're back in the game,
although how this would work is far from clear, and
from their record to date with no new homes built
in the past three years, well who can believe them.
When pushed on the detail, the Housing Minister couldn't explain
Labour's fund, and she also made the laughable claim this
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is on the ABC yesterday, that the government could build
homes cheaper than the private sector. On housing on the
Coalition's side, well I think they've got the better offering.
They also pledged to cut back Labour's immigration levels, those
record numbers of immigration that are in part driving the
housing crisis, and they'll tackle affordability of homing by allowing people,
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of course to access a portion of their super and
suspend for ten years any further changes to the design
rules that have made building a new home so much money.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
We anticipate that we will reduce net overseas migration in
our first year by one hundred thousand relative to Labor,
and will free up one hundred thousand homes in five
years through those measures.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Listening to both leaders yesterday, at the cost of living
crisis was front and center, but nowhere was there any
acknowledgment from Labor that it was their decisions that had
made the economy weaker and the crisis worse. And that's
why this government does not deserve to be rewarded with
a second term. Because Labour's spending addiction has kept interest
rates higher for longer, its union loyalties of damaged productivity,
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its green fixations made new resource developments almost impossible, and
its emissions obsessions made power prices skyrocket and is deindustrializing
this country. The best argument for a change of government
is that it will end all end up in economic
and social self harm if we did not change In Canberra.
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Peter Dutton, he said, will end the energy madness by
getting more gas into the system and eventually nuclear power.
He said, He'll get organized crime out of the construction
industry by de registering the CFWU, and he'll wind back
all the wasteful and ineffective government spending that's been just
such a hallmark of the Albanese prime ministership. With today's
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newspolet confirming and earlier dropping coalition support, the challenge will
be restoring momentum to the coalition campaign. Today both leaders
were at housing sites brooking their respective policies for first
home buyers, which just looked like much of a much
does today from both of them, even though yesterday Peter
Dutton had created another clear contrast with Labor.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Do you know what else will do to help austrain
families who drive? Will scrap Labour's car and ute tax.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
There it was yesterday, without much fanfare, of course, so
we'll remember Labor had legislated high vehicle emission standards which
would force you to buy electric vehicles rather than the
utes and SUVs at most Australians want. Labour's utax will
add around fourteen thousand dollars to the price of some
of our most popular cars, a Forward Ranger and the
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Toyota high Lux. Now this is where Dutton also needs
to be out this week selling a message on vehicles
as well as housing, that it's labor that's causing the
damage and that only the Coalition will fix it. Pre
polls were they going to open in just about a
week's time, So the Coalition has to pin the cost
of living in crisis on labor. People are feeling it,
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but they're not yet blaming labor big soft vote, though
anything can happen. One way would be to remind people
of Labour's lies, starting with that great big lie that
the PM can't even admit to their alone apologize for that.
He would catch a power bill by two hundred and
seventy five dollars a year. Now on that yesterday, Peter
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Dutton didn't miss.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
If Anthony Alberezi lies about something as simple as falling
off a stage, there's nothing he won't lie about. The
footage was there people saw at Prime Minister, People saw
you fall off the stage. How can you look people
in the eye and lie to them as you did
in relation to the two hundred and seventy five dollars,
as you did in relation to the Voice.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
This government has already left us poorer, weaker and more divided,
and if re elected, it'll just double down and move
even further to the heart i'd left as this Prime minister.
This week Prime Minister takes instruction from Adam band So,
no windback of emissions targets, no slowdown of Chris Bowen's
renewable energy badness, new taxes on investment, properties, jobs and
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industry faced off shore. The Voice absolutely back on steroids.
Steroids only this time they won't let you have a
vote to reject it. More indoctrination of school kids in
the classroom, more hatred against Israel, blackouts, brown outs, and
budget rant ink for the next decade or more. That
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is what is ahead of Australia. There has never been
a more important election in my lifetime, and the only
way to stop the damage is to change the government.
As I said, we're kicking up week three of the
federal campaign, so let's check in with the two camps.
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We'll start with the Prime Minister's camp. Joining me now
from Anthony Albanese's bus political reporter Cam reddin Well. Cam
the pms ended the day in Tasmania. Are in the
seat of Lions after Labor of course, is there to
sandbag the seat.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
What can you tell us?
Speaker 6 (10:18):
Yeah, Tasmanians will be very familiar with the candidate in Lyons, Peter.
Rebecca White tried three times to become the premier down here.
She foiled on every occasion. At one stage, durious guy
in his people's forum said she wouldn't run federally if
she lost again, but then had a change of heart.
So Rebecca White, she's the candidate for Lions here. It
is a seat that Labor holds. There was some controversy
around Brian Mitchell not contesting this seat again, but he's gone.
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She's in. It's a one percent seat, one that Labor
wants to hold. The feeling is here, Peter, that most
of these seats are expected to stay as they are.
There are five in Tasmania, two for each of the
major parties, and of course Andrew Wilkie holds the independent
seat of Clark, which covers most of the Hobart region.
Bass and Brad Labor targets where they believe that they
can potentially shift the vote in their favor for Tasmania.
(11:05):
What's giving them a little bit of hope, Peter, is
this latest poll that's out in the last few minutes
in the nine newspapers we saw News poll today still
at fifty two forty eight. This new pole in the
last five minutes has seen Labor nudge further ahead on
resolves measure to now lead fifty three and a half
to forty six and a half on two party terms,
which would put majority government if that was uniform. Right
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in the frame. The feeling in the Labor camp is yes,
it's only halfway. I think the official halfway mark of
this campaign is tomorrow. They don't want to put a
foot wrong. They're wary that things can turn on a dime.
But there's some real confidence in the numbers there for Labor,
Peter that at the moment they feel the trend is
their friend, knowing of course that things can change and
there's always to borrow an American term, an October surprise
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that can come late in the campaign.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah, and you could certainly feel through the TV today
the confidence in the Prime Minister's camp. He has had
a much better campaign this time. Around. He had a
shocker last time, but he's still won last time. And
Bill Shorton had a terrific campaign in twenty nineteen, and
of course he lost the unlosable. So plenty to play
for stell Camp. Good luck with tomorrow's magical mystery tour.
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Let's going out of the opposition leader's campaign. They're up
in the air again tonight, so a political reporter, Reuben Spargo,
filed you this report.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
The coalition is spreaking its housing policies. The L and
P fights to reclaim the seat of Ryan, flanked by
his son Harry. Peter Dutton is attempting to entice first
home buyers. They could save fifty five thousand dollars over
five years under the opposition's housing policy.
Speaker 8 (12:42):
I am saving up for a house, and so is
my sister back and a lot of my mate But
as you've probably heard, it's almost impossible to get in
in the current states.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Our policies will drive up home ownership.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
That's what we do.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
That's what we're all about here. Our policy. Our policy
is about increasing supply and reducing demand by cutting the
migration program.
Speaker 7 (13:04):
Despite this, the opposition leader claims he wants to see
median house prices go up. This new housing development is
rising in the inner Brisbane seat of Ryan. It's held
by the Greens with a margin of two point six percent.
The L and P lost the electorate in twenty twenty two.
After twenty one years, Ryan is in the only seat
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that Peter Darton is going after. He also has his
site set on Blair, Lily and Brisbane.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
All Right, we'll leave those traveling will be there for
the moment. Let's go to our camera Kruz Skyness political
contributor Chris Juelman and The Australians National editor Dennis Shanahan.
Let's talk about the launchers. We'll get into newspoll in
the moment, but let's stop and talk about these launches.
Yesterday we had Labour in Wa, we had the Coalition
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in Western Sydney. Dennis, you know we've all been around
a while. I reckon in terms of Hoopler, these launches
are becoming smaller and smaller events less probably influential in
the campaign, if I can say that. Give us your
thoughts on that point, but also the various policy offerings
we saw on the table.
Speaker 9 (14:15):
Well, look, I think the campaign launchers are certainly nowhere
near what they used to be. They used to be
in large venues with huge crowds and you could work
the crowd and build up a motion and all that
sort of thing. But yesterday out in the Liverpool Catholic
Club in Hoxton Park, there were just over two hundred
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people in the audience and that included a lot of
handpicked liberals. Well they're all hand picked liberals, but including
shadow ministers and former prime ministers. So a very small crowd,
the smallest crowd I have ever seen at a campaign launch.
It had fewer people and more security people than I've
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ever seen at a launch. So security point is making
its the impact. It's all kept secret beforehand so that
protesters can't come, and so the campaign launch as a
performance has gone. Yesterday's speech from Peter Dutton could very
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well have just been a normal speech delivered at any stage,
apart from its length. But I think that one interesting
thing about the campaign launch yesterday was that yes Peter
Dutton and Anthony Albernasian in Western Australia matched each other
on housing policies. They're going huge twenty billion dollars in
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housing policies directed at young people, first Home buyers in
particular and called cost of living relief. So they're both
going hell for leather on that point. But at the
Liverpool Catholic Club downstairs, while upstairs were a couple of
hundred pe and you know, all the focus was on
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Peter Dutton. Downstairs, there were hundreds of people and a
lot more balloons for birthday parties at the Liverpool Catholic
Club as people went there for their Sunday afternoon lunch,
and you've got no idea that there was a launch
upstairs that they could be interested about, or that they
took any interest in. I think that in a way
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it demonstrated that people have not yet connected to this
election campaign, which has been running since at least January one,
and probably since December. I think the political groups, you know,
people like me have been watching this for months, but
the public hasn't yet connected completely with the idea that
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there is a very important election campaign underway.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Couldn't agree more.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Dennisay asked a lot of people. I was in the
marginal set of Rangeman on the weekend. I asked a
lot of people out and about did they even know
there was an election on? Did they know the date
of the election, and I reckon A good seventy percent
of them said yeah, I reckon it's coming up, isn't it?
And I said, well it's on now, and very few
you could even name the dates. So you're absolutely right
about the soft volte. What did you make things, Chris,
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I particularly mention that pretty cringe worthy exchange between Albanzi
and Tanya plever sec and the fact that over at
the Liberal Party event, Dennis talks about former prime ministers, Well,
Malcolm Turnbull, clearly he put his invitation in the bin.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (17:34):
Look, I don't think anyone would be surprised about the
feeling between Tania per secd and Anthony Albernezi. They've been
long term rivals. I think that Tanya plipper sc thinks
that you should have Anthony Alberanesi's job, and he doesn't
hold her and terribly high regard. I don't think there
are any secrets about that. Malcolm turblewill he's been campaigning
against the Liberal Party for the last two elections, so
why would he turn up and support it in any way,
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shape or form. It's interesting to look at the policies.
We seem to have some demands side fixes for supply
side problems when it comes to housing, that could well
and truly force up the cost of housing no matter
who gets into government. Look, I wish that someone like
Kevin Rudd back in two thousand and seven would yell
out this reckless spending must stop. And that was at
a time when we actually had money to spend, we
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had no debt, and we are having budget surpluses wedding
towards a triggering dollars worth of debt now and no
one seems to be concerned about that particularly, I have
to say, not for the public. It seems to be
now that it is all about what you can be
bought for in an election campaign. Well, I think times
at times are difficult, and eventually reality is going to
be forced on both of these major parties. Things will
have to change in government.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Dennis, give us your take on news pole today. There's
a bit more of a climb there for labor. It'll
put some wind in their sales. Give us your sense
of things.
Speaker 9 (18:49):
Well, Look, I think that the real point about the
news poll today, when you look at it, everyone except
one nation is basically where they were at the last election.
There's been a decline over the last few months in
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the coalition primary vote, but they're back to where they
were at the last election. None of that decline has
gone to the Labor party primary vote. The two party
preferred remains the same as it was last week. So
what we've actually got here is a shift within the
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conservative vote away from the Coalition but towards the minor
Conservative party of One Nation. Now a lot of that
could well be coalition voters who were with the Coalition
have gone back to One Nation, but it could also
be Labor voters who are giving their support to one Nation.
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The one nation vote is not as good for the
Coalition as the Green vote is for Labor. The Green
vote is where it was at the last election, and
that can give preferences to Labor of about eighty percent.
The Coalition can only really rely on fifty to fifty
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preferences from one Nation. So what we're seeing is I
think a demonstration in the national polls that yes, the
Coalition has lost some support. Labor hasn't built any What
we've seen is a much greater chance of minority government.
But we've also got the idea, I think that there's
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a great deal happening in individual electorates. Look at where
the leaders are going. They're not running national campaigns. They
are going to particular seats where they are either sandbagging
their own seats, defending seats which wouldn't be at risk
at that two party preferred vote, and yet that's what
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they're doing. Both sides are doing it. And I think
that what we're seeing, as Jim Chalmers said today, that
this is going to get tighter, and I think it's
going to be closer than the national poll suggests.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I think that there is an absolute ground game. There's
been a return to local politics in the last two elections,
in particular in a way we haven't seen the national campaign.
Obsessives like us will draw sort of things from it,
but I think the cut through with the soft vote
is happening literally street by street, bunnings by bunnings. Just
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on that point, the local game, social media, Chris Yellman,
a lot of the things that we haven't really I
guess analyzed because they are new features of campaigning. Really
interesting about Paige comment from these influences on social media
basically cash for comment, I would call it, but it
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was raised with Monique Ryan a key independent, a key tale.
But apparently she's got no opinion about this.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Have a listen.
Speaker 11 (22:08):
Should it be clear to voters people who are looking
at this content that it's paid for by the politician?
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I don't want to have an opinion on it, really.
Speaker 11 (22:18):
You don't think You don't think voters deserve to know
that if someone they're watching is saying great things about
a politician, whether they're being paid by that politician.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I'll have to go to some thought.
Speaker 12 (22:29):
It's not something I've given great thought to myself.
Speaker 11 (22:31):
You'd have to give that some thought. Well, I would
think that it would be clear.
Speaker 13 (22:39):
I don't know. I think.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I'd have to give it some thought done.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
You're kidding me, Chris, You're kidding me.
Speaker 10 (22:55):
Yeah, Peter will have paid endorsement is an ad right,
and if it was an AD then it would come
under our system and would need to be declared at
some stage. And I'd just invite people to do this
with these kinds of things. To imagine that Peter Dutton
had been asked the same question and had had the
same result. What do you think the Teals and the
Greens and the Labor Party would be saying today? Would
they have any doubt at all about where they stood. Now,
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of course they would not. It's not something you have
to think about very long.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Just quickly, I'm going to go on and speak to
Michael Schubridge about this. But huge news over the weekend
in relation to China and steel making in Britain. Chris,
I know you've looked at this really closely.
Speaker 10 (23:35):
Yeah, well this is extraordinary. What we're seeing is the
British government is taking over control of British steel at
a factory, the last virgin steel works in Scunthorpe in
the northern part of the UK, because they are frightened
that the Chinese company that owns it might be in
the process of sabotaging it and letting the furnaces go cold,
which would mean it would be very difficult and would
cost hundreds of millions of dollars to restart. Now they're
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accusing the Chinese essentially of sabotage. Well, I can tell
you who started the sabotage of this, and it wasn't
the Chinese government. It was the British government under both
Conservatives and the Labor Party, who decided to stop using
coal in the UK. What we've seen since then, is
that electricity prices have gone up to one hundred and
twenty four percent of what they were just five years ago.
Electricity prices in the UK are four times as high
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as are in the United States. And now we might
see the extraordinary site of a Royalist Royal Navy vessel
escorting a coking coal ship load into port in the UK.
Speaker 9 (24:34):
Get this.
Speaker 10 (24:34):
They need their coal, but they have to import it
and they're going to escort it with the Royal Navy.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
You could not make this up.
Speaker 10 (24:40):
This is Shakespearean, but I don't know whether it's a
tragedy or a farce.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Peter Jens Oliver there, thank you. We'll stay with that issue.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Prime Minister Keir Starmers recalled MPs from their Easter break
in Britain to pass emergency legislation allowing the government to
take control of steel making operations.
Speaker 14 (25:00):
It allows us to take control of British Steel's BLUs furnaces,
maintaining steel prediction and by extension, protecting the company's three
and a half thousand strong workforce. Now, the bill does
not transfer ownership to the government. We'll have to deal
with this mutter at a later date.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Jodamenad to discuss this. Director at Strategic Analysis Australia Michael Schuebridge. Well, Michael,
you know we're in the middle of a federal campaign here.
Not much is cutting through the tariffs did of course,
I think this is a huge issue. We cannot not
discuss it tonight. I think it's a key warning not
just for Britain but for countries like Australia. Explain to
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my viewers why this should put chills down their spine.
Speaker 15 (25:48):
Well, Peter, this is a real shocking wake up call
about the consequences of having Chinese ownership and control of
critical industries and infrastructure. This case with British Steel is
a Chinese company, whether acting for its own commercial or
for government driven purposes, out of Beijing, ending Britain's ability
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to make any kind of steel and turning it instead
into a complete dependency on China. And that exertion of
control over critical infrastructure should make us think about the
Chinese ownership of electricity and gas distribution in Australia, and
of course ports like Darwin Port.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
And transmission lines and five G networks and even totriage operators.
I mean, if you wanted to enact some sort of
domestic chaos. You'd have all the traffic lights in the
country fail and all the toll manufacturing reading information, you know,
put a bug in that system and a.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Way we go.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
I mean, these are the things that I think we've
been asleep and what we're seeing play out in the UK.
We're not immune.
Speaker 15 (27:07):
No, it isn't it interesting that Kis Starmer. When he
came to power, he wasn't going to be a national
security prime minister. But since he was elected in July,
he's raised the UK defense budget to two and a
half percent of GDP and he's intervening on critical industry
and infrastructure issues on national security grounds. He's obviously understanding
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China is not the UK's new best friend economically or politically,
even with the risks coming out of Washington.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
And the big is here, Michael. Beyond that, the Chinese ownership,
of course, is energy pricing. You heard Chris Hillman on that.
I think this is why you and I have been
saying for years now. Energy security is national security. And
if you throw something like AI in the mix and
the gantuan amounts of power required for that, if Chinese
get the if China gets the jump on us, which
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I think they'll almost have on AI and they can
power their AI systems. And we've got, you know, a
wink and a prayer and some dodgy renewals and that's
all we've got between that Namageddon. Well, we just might
as well pack up and go home.
Speaker 15 (28:17):
We are managing our decline, yes, And that's why this
election so far has been so disappointing. We haven't seen
engagement on national security and the connections between energy, technology
and security. Maybe we will in the few weeks left.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
All right, I'll leave it there, thank you, Michael. I'm
hearing too that there might be defense policies come out
this week, but goodness saying we had the launches yesterday.
Let's get the defense stuff out with the launch anyway,
what would I know? All right, after the break, let's
look at the policies, tax savings, cost of living, of
course housing over the weekend. Ross greenwand he'll help us
understand them all. Plus those paid spookers, the legro spender
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and those the tills. Don't want you to know these
people are paid. How's that for integrity, ladies. Right in
the moment, we're going to get into the tilS on
social media with the panel. But first I want to
get you to understand just how bloated and confusing the
Australian school curriculum is. Now I have a look at this.
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This is a copy of just the maths curriculum. Those
four volumes are not even volumes, it's just they couldn't
be put into one binder. That's the Maths Curriculum year seventy,
year ten, three and a half thousand pages. There a
bloated ideology instruction that just confuses teachers and students absolutely.
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This is what's known as it's impacted heavily by what's
known as the cross curriculum priorities. Now that means it's
about two and a half thousand suggestions in those papers
about how to incorporate a whole lot of stuff into
lesson content. Not what you should be teaching kids about maths,
but in the maths content, what you also need to
teach them about indigenous history and culture for example. And
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this is not just in maths, this is in biology.
History would work if you can believe it, any subject
in high school has to have woven into it environmental
and indigenous perspectives. Now this comes from the rud Gillard era.
But how a look at our competitors, Singapore. That little document,
I'll put the picture up again. That little document on
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the other side. That's Singapore's math curriculum. Now they are
a world leading nation. And it's eighty pages long and
it's all the basics. Someone who's dug right into this detail.
Director of the school's program at the Beginstitute of Public Affairs,
Colleen Harken. I saw a fantastic presentation by you and
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Adelaide recently with the IPA, and I was gobsmacked to
see the physical reality of what we're trying to teach
and not teaching very well our kids, and what Singapore
is doing. I didn't think it was that bad.
Speaker 16 (31:02):
No, it's terrible, Peter. I just want to correct you.
But it is a foundation to year ten. It does
not include year eleven and twelve, but it is the
prime time Foundation two year ten.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
But it's an astounding document.
Speaker 16 (31:12):
It is so unwieldy and bloated with activist ideology. And
I know you can't compare directly with other countries because
Singapore has some differences to ours, but when you know
that they are first on the oecdps A results and
we are languishing and our results have been going backwards
year on year for twenty years. You have to look
at it and say, we are clearly doing something very wrong.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
And you know there's a whole industry to hide this
from parents, because when you went looking to have a
look at this document, you can't even get it as
a document.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
No, you can't.
Speaker 16 (31:47):
So that image that you just showed a moment ago
that is not available as a document that we've spent
days upon days having to download each of the sections.
There are elaborations, there are content scriptors, there are all
these things that you have to bury into that image.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Is what it would be if it was a book.
It's not.
Speaker 16 (32:05):
We actually asked a kara for a copy of it
and they said it's not available.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Why would you want that? And that's sort of part
of the scenario about.
Speaker 16 (32:11):
It is very opaque. The ideology that's embedded into it
is shoehorned into every subject, every year, level, every opportunity,
and in maths in particular, it even says things like
teaching children to dance through teaching children to count through
aboriginal dance, the pollution of subject integrity is quite astounding.
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Parents would be quite shocked. And then it's no surprise
whereas lots are going backwards. We've got a third of
all of our students and not meeting minimum benchmarks minimum.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
And we're talking about a volume set like that for
every single subject.
Speaker 16 (32:48):
Well, that is what's called one learning area, and there
are eight learning areas in the curriculum. Some of those
learning areas have multiple subjects underneath them, so geography, business history, they.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
All come under one learning area. And if it was.
Speaker 16 (33:02):
Downloaded, I don't know, the curriculum could be I don't know,
one hundred thousand pages. Who knows, because there is so
many that live under Maths is the only one that
has a learning area and a subject as one. Every
other learning area has multiple subjects that sit underneath it.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
And when you're forced by these right era Gillard era
rules to apply Aboriginal culture and learning and environmental practices,
let's say to Maths, what is a teacher meant to
do with that rule?
Speaker 16 (33:34):
Well, it's clearly you know, it's an impossible task. Who
can use a document like that? It means that the
red tape that is involved in their job is extraordinary
because the Singapore one exam is a good example of
if you understand maths, you understand by the end of
certain grade children will be able to do multiplication to
three digits. And if you don't understand what that means,
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you shouldn't be a math teacher. And so the Australian
curriculum says, well, you have to go off and understand
something about and I'm not making this up, things like
how aboriginals used ovens to do things that somehow is
shoehorned into mathematics.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
So you have to go off and.
Speaker 16 (34:12):
Do a whole separate task to try and merge those
two principles together, and it is littered throughout them sustainability
and aboriginal torrest rate allows everywhere those sorts of principles.
Even if we agree with them, which I don't, they
find their way into a social sciences curriculum or history.
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Perhaps they wouldn't be in maths, so we would be
in biology, they wouldn't be in chemistry.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yeah, correct, and they don't belong there.
Speaker 16 (34:39):
Sustainability and our history and culture doesn't belong in maths.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Just quickly, why we're not having this whole debate? Then,
in the middle of an election CAMPI.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Oh, we definitely should be.
Speaker 16 (34:49):
I mean the coalition is saying back to basics education, education,
not ideology, which is fantastic, but I'd like to see
it given a lot more oxygen because our education system
is in dire need for somebody to actually stand up
and address it and champion the cause for our kids
going in future.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Well you, thank you, stick work.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
All right, that's why I needed to show you this
in the middle of the campaign and make sure you
understand before you vote. All right, quick break, calming back
the panel. Fabulous panel coming up.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
We'll go back.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
In recent days, we've had the admission from fellow teel
Allegora Spender, who says she has paid an agency to
commission content with influencers and she's put them to air.
This is a collaboration with Climate two hundred, but not
much has been disclosed when Negrian, when asked, sort of
dodged the question about whether it should be disclosed in
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the interests of integrity and transparency. So let's ask my
panel what they think. When Nation Chief is starf James
Ashby the Skies contributor Gary Hargrave joined me. Now, James,
they campaign on this stuff. They say they're white knights
and you know pure as are driven snow. To me,
this is cash for common Where's the authorization that Pauline
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would have to have on the bottom of one of
her ads?
Speaker 12 (36:06):
Exactly, you hit the nail on the head, Peter. Nineteen
ninety nine, cash for comment came out, and I remember
it specifically because I started working in radio in that
same year and it was a big thing because people this.
In that instance, it was the listeners to radio stations
were being misled by two UI at the time, and
there were massive fines that followed it. Now it's probably
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too late once this election has been held to go
and investigate, but there should be better transparency and that
is something that Monique Ryan has failed on every level
at this election. And if she did it at this election,
she probably did it at the last you know, with
her husband's stealing core flutes. And now this what I
would call dodgy practice of misleading the public who may
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consider voting for it. But I think when they find
these little, these little tipbits out ahead of this election,
they're starting to rethink the tials. They're not transparent. And Monique, right,
betcha she puts in are seeking that money back through
the Electoral Commission, because don't forget, she gets three dollars
thirty eight per vote out there voters, So if you
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want to punish her, do not give her a first preference.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Let's go to the comments made by Australia's Race Discrimination Commissioner,
who's refused to explain his criticism of Australia's counter terrorism
laws and policies, including a belief he says that they
conflate Islam with terrorism.
Speaker 13 (37:30):
Garry Well, Peter, let's face it, any of this sort
of stuff just doesn't wash with me, because there is
nothing in our laws in this country that treats a
group differently because of their race or their religion.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
That just isn't.
Speaker 13 (37:49):
And so if you are a law breaker, if you
are somebody who is encouraging people to break the laws,
if you're encouraging hatred, if you're preaching hatred, if you're
actually trying to split the country up, the law may
well look at you. But to suggest otherwise is just wrong.
This bloke is wrong. He's egging it on, and by
his comments alone, he's proving that he in fact is
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putting the race into the racial discrimination commissioner job, and
I find that really sad, really really sad, and it's
not good enough. We basically have got to find ways
to get each other on with each other, not to
create these divisions. But that's what this bloke wants to do,
and that's what the alb and Easy government wants to do.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Just quickly, James Ashby going live. Just a few moments
ago on the Nightly website is a story by Latika
Burke who says that she's interviewed the Prime Minister, and
she says that he wants a third term, that if
re elected, he will run the full term. He'll then
run at the next election. He wants three goes of elbow.
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But he's also made the point in this interview that
he is flagging a very major cabinet reshuffle. I made
the point a bit earlier he looked pretty confident. Today, Well,
I reckon, that's cocky.
Speaker 12 (39:04):
Well, the Prime Minister doesn't have a say over the cabinet.
He may have a say who goes into which portfolio,
but at the end of the day, the unions will
have the final say. It is very cocky. The Prime
Minister's sort of getting ahead of himself. Two and a
half weeks out from May three. So yeah, I woun't
I wouldn't count the chickens. But you know, if this
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government gets a second term, they will certainly not get
a third because what we will see, particularly with the
Greens holding Labor to ransom, is some really draconian laws
that are passed. We will see this country go backwards
and will certainly look like a third world nation if
Labor does get a third term, let alone a second.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Let's go to the masked neo Nazis or they appeared
to be that, who rallied outside Senator James Patterson's office
in Melbourne on Sunday. They chanted a whole lot of
racist slogans. The Patterson, though, came out and spoke about
the incident.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Here he is.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
They covered their faces in a particularly cowardly move. If
they had the drop belief in their system and they
would have actually showed themselves and revealed themselves to the
whole world, I think that speaks volumes about them. We
led the fight over the last three years, Laura to
pass really strong laws at the federal levels of crackdown
on behavior like this. It is now a crime to
engage in a Nazi salute.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Couldn't agree more with that, Gary.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
But what worries me is a reaction by the liberals
in Victoria regarding moy redeeming. But beyond you never know
who these people are. Some of them are masked, of
course they are. They could be neo Nazis. They could
similarly be left wing activists like Antifa who want to
sort of slur a liberal politician with a neo Nazi
far right sort of inference. It concerns me that this
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is happening, Peter.
Speaker 13 (40:55):
I always thought the whole deeming matter, that is exactly
what occurred. They just simply brought crowd in, put under costumes,
and they were so courageous they put a mask over
their face. This is where the American political stuff is
coming into the Australian scene. Right now. You've seeing the
left following exactly the same example they're using in the
United States, where they have so little courage they have
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to cover their face with a mask, They have to
pretend to be something that people don't realize they are.
And this is the sort of nastiness. This is this
international left that's actually invading this election campaign, and we're
just getting English we're being like to from the left.
It is just so loud, it is so so hard
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for Peter Dunn't to get cut through. But it is
actually an orchestrated thing to try and sway this election.
The media mob have chosen have changed an Alba to
win and these left activists so they're probably coming in
from over service frankly that are whipping everybody up.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Yeah, well we've got to track all of that because
I also look at the money. I look at the money, gentlemen,
Thank you very much. That's it from Azy Tomorrow Night
at six. He's Andrew
Peter Krandland Live on Sky News Australia.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Good evening, great to have your company as we're kicking
off another week in federal campaign. Let's get into it tonight,
all right, a big weekend. On the weekend we saw,
of course that double header of campaign launches, plenty of
policy giveaways. Will unpack that in a moment. But that
also we'll get into that awkward moment between Anthony Albernezi
and Tanya plever Set which was telling for such a
carefully managed event. More on that at a moment. Last,
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will take a look at the claims by the Teals.
Sort of cash for comment, isn't it. I mean it's
hardly campaigning with integrity. The extraordinary intervention two to save
Britain's last major steel plant from being shut down by
its Chinese owner.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
This is a warning of just.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
How entrans China's become in the West and just how
at risk we are here as well as in Britain
and elsewhere. Last, the work curriculum that's killing the minds
of our children. Now, where's the focus on this in
the camp We've done some investigative work will show the
outcomes tonight. It is a bloated mess and no wonder
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our children are falling behind and another gold blow to
the coalition in the latest News poll. However, Peter Darton
has rammed up his attacks when it comes to the
Greens and Labor and a hung parliament.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
The Prime ministers still continuing with the charade that he
could form a majority government. I think people are setting
through that pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
We'll go first, though, to those two campaign launchers yesterday.
While they were not just on opposite sides of the country,
they almost came from two different universes. In Labour's case,
an almost cocky prime minister claimed that the government had
rescued the economy and created a strong and prosperous Australia,
characterized but an almost sacred devotion to Labour's use of
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Medicare as a stunt.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Labor is a party of Medicare, created it and we
will strengthen it.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
And actually it would all be put at risk by
Peter Dudden, who would cut everything, said the Prime Minister
except tax.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
They had not learned and Peter Dutton will never change.
This is not a time to risk Australia's future by
going back to the failures of the past.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
At the coalition's launch, the Opposition leader declared that living
standards had never fallen so far, so fast, and pledged
to deliver more affordable energy and more affordable housing. Last
greater personal and national security. Australia, he said, can't afford
another three years of labor.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Today I announced a significant tax cut to help Australians.
We're going to help with Labour's cost a living crisis.
I will be a prime Minister who restores the dream
of home ownership. We must grow our economy so that
we're more protected against external shocks. We must shore up
our energy security so that we have an abundance of
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affordable and reliable power that we need for our future.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
In this campaign, as you know, both sides are pledging
cost of living relief. Labor via it's seventy cents a
day tax cut in fifteen months time, the Coalition via
it's fourteen dollars a cut in fuel tax every time
you fill up the tank, and yesterday both campaigns almost
echoed each other, Labor with an automatic annual one thousand
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dollars tax deduction for work expenses, no paperwork required, and
the Coalition with a twelve one hundred dollar tax offset
for everyone earning under one hundred and forty four thousand
dollars a year on both sides too, more on housing,
with five percent deposits for first home buyers from Labor
via a government funded mortgage insurance scheme and from the
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Libs the tax deductibility of mortgage interest repayments for first
home buyers too on the first six hundred and fifty
thousand dollars of a mortgage, a little more in the city,
and only if they buy a new built home. The
Labour reckons. If they can get one hundred thousand new
homes built just for first home buyers, mind you, via
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a new ten billion dollar fund, they're back in the game,
although how this would work is far from clear, and
from their record to date with no new homes built
in the past three years, well who can believe them.
When pushed on the detail, the Housing Minister couldn't explain
Labour's fund, and she also made the laughable claim this
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is on the ABC yesterday, that the government could build
homes cheaper than the private sector. On housing on the
Coalition's side, well I think they've got the better offering.
They also pledged to cut back Labour's immigration levels, those
record numbers of immigration that are in part driving the
housing crisis, and they'll tackle affordability of homing by allowing people,
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of course to access a portion of their super and
suspend for ten years any further changes to the design
rules that have made building a new home so much money.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
We anticipate that we will reduce net overseas migration in
our first year by one hundred thousand relative to Labor,
and will free up one hundred thousand homes in five
years through those measures.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Listening to both leaders yesterday, at the cost of living
crisis was front and center, but nowhere was there any
acknowledgment from Labor that it was their decisions that had
made the economy weaker and the crisis worse. And that's
why this government does not deserve to be rewarded with
a second term. Because Labour's spending addiction has kept interest
rates higher for longer, its union loyalties of damaged productivity,
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its green fixations made new resource developments almost impossible, and
its emissions obsessions made power prices skyrocket and is deindustrializing
this country. The best argument for a change of government
is that it will end all end up in economic
and social self harm if we did not change In Canberra.
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Peter Dutton, he said, will end the energy madness by
getting more gas into the system and eventually nuclear power.
He said, He'll get organized crime out of the construction
industry by de registering the CFWU, and he'll wind back
all the wasteful and ineffective government spending that's been just
such a hallmark of the Albanese prime ministership. With today's
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newspolet confirming and earlier dropping coalition support, the challenge will
be restoring momentum to the coalition campaign. Today both leaders
were at housing sites brooking their respective policies for first
home buyers, which just looked like much of a much
does today from both of them, even though yesterday Peter
Dutton had created another clear contrast with Labor.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Do you know what else will do to help austrain
families who drive? Will scrap Labour's car and ute tax.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
There it was yesterday, without much fanfare, of course, so
we'll remember Labor had legislated high vehicle emission standards which
would force you to buy electric vehicles rather than the
utes and SUVs at most Australians want. Labour's utax will
add around fourteen thousand dollars to the price of some
of our most popular cars, a Forward Ranger and the
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Toyota high Lux. Now this is where Dutton also needs
to be out this week selling a message on vehicles
as well as housing, that it's labor that's causing the
damage and that only the Coalition will fix it. Pre
polls were they going to open in just about a
week's time, So the Coalition has to pin the cost
of living in crisis on labor. People are feeling it,
(08:03):
but they're not yet blaming labor big soft vote, though
anything can happen. One way would be to remind people
of Labour's lies, starting with that great big lie that
the PM can't even admit to their alone apologize for that.
He would catch a power bill by two hundred and
seventy five dollars a year. Now on that yesterday, Peter
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Dutton didn't miss.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
If Anthony Alberezi lies about something as simple as falling
off a stage, there's nothing he won't lie about. The
footage was there people saw at Prime Minister, People saw
you fall off the stage. How can you look people
in the eye and lie to them as you did
in relation to the two hundred and seventy five dollars,
as you did in relation to the Voice.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
This government has already left us poorer, weaker and more divided,
and if re elected, it'll just double down and move
even further to the heart i'd left as this Prime minister.
This week Prime Minister takes instruction from Adam band So,
no windback of emissions targets, no slowdown of Chris Bowen's
renewable energy badness, new taxes on investment, properties, jobs and
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industry faced off shore. The Voice absolutely back on steroids.
Steroids only this time they won't let you have a
vote to reject it. More indoctrination of school kids in
the classroom, more hatred against Israel, blackouts, brown outs, and
budget rant ink for the next decade or more. That
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is what is ahead of Australia. There has never been
a more important election in my lifetime, and the only
way to stop the damage is to change the government.
As I said, we're kicking up week three of the
federal campaign, so let's check in with the two camps.
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We'll start with the Prime Minister's camp. Joining me now
from Anthony Albanese's bus political reporter Cam reddin Well. Cam
the pms ended the day in Tasmania. Are in the
seat of Lions after Labor of course, is there to
sandbag the seat.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
What can you tell us?
Speaker 6 (10:18):
Yeah, Tasmanians will be very familiar with the candidate in Lyons, Peter.
Rebecca White tried three times to become the premier down here.
She foiled on every occasion. At one stage, durious guy
in his people's forum said she wouldn't run federally if
she lost again, but then had a change of heart.
So Rebecca White, she's the candidate for Lions here. It
is a seat that Labor holds. There was some controversy
around Brian Mitchell not contesting this seat again, but he's gone.
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She's in. It's a one percent seat, one that Labor
wants to hold. The feeling is here, Peter, that most
of these seats are expected to stay as they are.
There are five in Tasmania, two for each of the
major parties, and of course Andrew Wilkie holds the independent
seat of Clark, which covers most of the Hobart region.
Bass and Brad Labor targets where they believe that they
can potentially shift the vote in their favor for Tasmania.
(11:05):
What's giving them a little bit of hope, Peter, is
this latest poll that's out in the last few minutes
in the nine newspapers we saw News poll today still
at fifty two forty eight. This new pole in the
last five minutes has seen Labor nudge further ahead on
resolves measure to now lead fifty three and a half
to forty six and a half on two party terms,
which would put majority government if that was uniform. Right
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in the frame. The feeling in the Labor camp is yes,
it's only halfway. I think the official halfway mark of
this campaign is tomorrow. They don't want to put a
foot wrong. They're wary that things can turn on a dime.
But there's some real confidence in the numbers there for Labor,
Peter that at the moment they feel the trend is
their friend, knowing of course that things can change and
there's always to borrow an American term, an October surprise
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that can come late in the campaign.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah, and you could certainly feel through the TV today
the confidence in the Prime Minister's camp. He has had
a much better campaign this time. Around. He had a
shocker last time, but he's still won last time. And
Bill Shorton had a terrific campaign in twenty nineteen, and
of course he lost the unlosable. So plenty to play
for stell Camp. Good luck with tomorrow's magical mystery tour.
(12:17):
Let's going out of the opposition leader's campaign. They're up
in the air again tonight, so a political reporter, Reuben Spargo,
filed you this report.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
The coalition is spreaking its housing policies. The L and
P fights to reclaim the seat of Ryan, flanked by
his son Harry. Peter Dutton is attempting to entice first
home buyers. They could save fifty five thousand dollars over
five years under the opposition's housing policy.
Speaker 8 (12:42):
I am saving up for a house, and so is
my sister back and a lot of my mate But
as you've probably heard, it's almost impossible to get in
in the current states.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Our policies will drive up home ownership.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
That's what we do.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
That's what we're all about here. Our policy. Our policy
is about increasing supply and reducing demand by cutting the
migration program.
Speaker 7 (13:04):
Despite this, the opposition leader claims he wants to see
median house prices go up. This new housing development is
rising in the inner Brisbane seat of Ryan. It's held
by the Greens with a margin of two point six percent.
The L and P lost the electorate in twenty twenty two.
After twenty one years, Ryan is in the only seat
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that Peter Darton is going after. He also has his
site set on Blair, Lily and Brisbane.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
All Right, we'll leave those traveling will be there for
the moment. Let's go to our camera Kruz Skyness political
contributor Chris Juelman and The Australians National editor Dennis Shanahan.
Let's talk about the launchers. We'll get into newspoll in
the moment, but let's stop and talk about these launches.
Yesterday we had Labour in Wa, we had the Coalition
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in Western Sydney. Dennis, you know we've all been around
a while. I reckon in terms of Hoopler, these launches
are becoming smaller and smaller events less probably influential in
the campaign, if I can say that. Give us your
thoughts on that point, but also the various policy offerings
we saw on the table.
Speaker 9 (14:15):
Well, look, I think the campaign launchers are certainly nowhere
near what they used to be. They used to be
in large venues with huge crowds and you could work
the crowd and build up a motion and all that
sort of thing. But yesterday out in the Liverpool Catholic
Club in Hoxton Park, there were just over two hundred
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people in the audience and that included a lot of
handpicked liberals. Well they're all hand picked liberals, but including
shadow ministers and former prime ministers. So a very small crowd,
the smallest crowd I have ever seen at a campaign launch.
It had fewer people and more security people than I've
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ever seen at a launch. So security point is making
its the impact. It's all kept secret beforehand so that
protesters can't come, and so the campaign launch as a
performance has gone. Yesterday's speech from Peter Dutton could very
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well have just been a normal speech delivered at any stage,
apart from its length. But I think that one interesting
thing about the campaign launch yesterday was that yes Peter
Dutton and Anthony Albernasian in Western Australia matched each other
on housing policies. They're going huge twenty billion dollars in
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housing policies directed at young people, first Home buyers in
particular and called cost of living relief. So they're both
going hell for leather on that point. But at the
Liverpool Catholic Club downstairs, while upstairs were a couple of
hundred pe and you know, all the focus was on
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Peter Dutton. Downstairs, there were hundreds of people and a
lot more balloons for birthday parties at the Liverpool Catholic
Club as people went there for their Sunday afternoon lunch,
and you've got no idea that there was a launch
upstairs that they could be interested about, or that they
took any interest in. I think that in a way
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it demonstrated that people have not yet connected to this
election campaign, which has been running since at least January one,
and probably since December. I think the political groups, you know,
people like me have been watching this for months, but
the public hasn't yet connected completely with the idea that
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there is a very important election campaign underway.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Couldn't agree more.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Dennisay asked a lot of people. I was in the
marginal set of Rangeman on the weekend. I asked a
lot of people out and about did they even know
there was an election on? Did they know the date
of the election, and I reckon A good seventy percent
of them said yeah, I reckon it's coming up, isn't it?
And I said, well it's on now, and very few
you could even name the dates. So you're absolutely right
about the soft volte. What did you make things, Chris,
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I particularly mention that pretty cringe worthy exchange between Albanzi
and Tanya plever sec and the fact that over at
the Liberal Party event, Dennis talks about former prime ministers, Well,
Malcolm Turnbull, clearly he put his invitation in the bin.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (17:34):
Look, I don't think anyone would be surprised about the
feeling between Tania per secd and Anthony Albernezi. They've been
long term rivals. I think that Tanya plipper sc thinks
that you should have Anthony Alberanesi's job, and he doesn't
hold her and terribly high regard. I don't think there
are any secrets about that. Malcolm turblewill he's been campaigning
against the Liberal Party for the last two elections, so
why would he turn up and support it in any way,
(17:55):
shape or form. It's interesting to look at the policies.
We seem to have some demands side fixes for supply
side problems when it comes to housing, that could well
and truly force up the cost of housing no matter
who gets into government. Look, I wish that someone like
Kevin Rudd back in two thousand and seven would yell
out this reckless spending must stop. And that was at
a time when we actually had money to spend, we
(18:15):
had no debt, and we are having budget surpluses wedding
towards a triggering dollars worth of debt now and no
one seems to be concerned about that particularly, I have
to say, not for the public. It seems to be
now that it is all about what you can be
bought for in an election campaign. Well, I think times
at times are difficult, and eventually reality is going to
be forced on both of these major parties. Things will
have to change in government.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Dennis, give us your take on news pole today. There's
a bit more of a climb there for labor. It'll
put some wind in their sales. Give us your sense
of things.
Speaker 9 (18:49):
Well, Look, I think that the real point about the
news poll today, when you look at it, everyone except
one nation is basically where they were at the last election.
There's been a decline over the last few months in
(19:09):
the coalition primary vote, but they're back to where they
were at the last election. None of that decline has
gone to the Labor party primary vote. The two party
preferred remains the same as it was last week. So
what we've actually got here is a shift within the
(19:30):
conservative vote away from the Coalition but towards the minor
Conservative party of One Nation. Now a lot of that
could well be coalition voters who were with the Coalition
have gone back to One Nation, but it could also
be Labor voters who are giving their support to one Nation.
(19:54):
The one nation vote is not as good for the
Coalition as the Green vote is for Labor. The Green
vote is where it was at the last election, and
that can give preferences to Labor of about eighty percent.
The Coalition can only really rely on fifty to fifty
(20:17):
preferences from one Nation. So what we're seeing is I
think a demonstration in the national polls that yes, the
Coalition has lost some support. Labor hasn't built any What
we've seen is a much greater chance of minority government.
But we've also got the idea, I think that there's
(20:41):
a great deal happening in individual electorates. Look at where
the leaders are going. They're not running national campaigns. They
are going to particular seats where they are either sandbagging
their own seats, defending seats which wouldn't be at risk
at that two party preferred vote, and yet that's what
(21:01):
they're doing. Both sides are doing it. And I think
that what we're seeing, as Jim Chalmers said today, that
this is going to get tighter, and I think it's
going to be closer than the national poll suggests.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I think that there is an absolute ground game. There's
been a return to local politics in the last two elections,
in particular in a way we haven't seen the national campaign.
Obsessives like us will draw sort of things from it,
but I think the cut through with the soft vote
is happening literally street by street, bunnings by bunnings. Just
(21:38):
on that point, the local game, social media, Chris Yellman,
a lot of the things that we haven't really I
guess analyzed because they are new features of campaigning. Really
interesting about Paige comment from these influences on social media
basically cash for comment, I would call it, but it
(22:01):
was raised with Monique Ryan a key independent, a key tale.
But apparently she's got no opinion about this.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Have a listen.
Speaker 11 (22:08):
Should it be clear to voters people who are looking
at this content that it's paid for by the politician?
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I don't want to have an opinion on it, really.
Speaker 11 (22:18):
You don't think You don't think voters deserve to know
that if someone they're watching is saying great things about
a politician, whether they're being paid by that politician.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I'll have to go to some thought.
Speaker 12 (22:29):
It's not something I've given great thought to myself.
Speaker 11 (22:31):
You'd have to give that some thought. Well, I would
think that it would be clear.
Speaker 13 (22:39):
I don't know. I think.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I'd have to give it some thought done.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
You're kidding me, Chris, You're kidding me.
Speaker 10 (22:55):
Yeah, Peter will have paid endorsement is an ad right,
and if it was an AD then it would come
under our system and would need to be declared at
some stage. And I'd just invite people to do this
with these kinds of things. To imagine that Peter Dutton
had been asked the same question and had had the
same result. What do you think the Teals and the
Greens and the Labor Party would be saying today? Would
they have any doubt at all about where they stood. Now,
(23:17):
of course they would not. It's not something you have
to think about very long.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Just quickly, I'm going to go on and speak to
Michael Schubridge about this. But huge news over the weekend
in relation to China and steel making in Britain. Chris,
I know you've looked at this really closely.
Speaker 10 (23:35):
Yeah, well this is extraordinary. What we're seeing is the
British government is taking over control of British steel at
a factory, the last virgin steel works in Scunthorpe in
the northern part of the UK, because they are frightened
that the Chinese company that owns it might be in
the process of sabotaging it and letting the furnaces go cold,
which would mean it would be very difficult and would
cost hundreds of millions of dollars to restart. Now they're
(23:59):
accusing the Chinese essentially of sabotage. Well, I can tell
you who started the sabotage of this, and it wasn't
the Chinese government. It was the British government under both
Conservatives and the Labor Party, who decided to stop using
coal in the UK. What we've seen since then, is
that electricity prices have gone up to one hundred and
twenty four percent of what they were just five years ago.
Electricity prices in the UK are four times as high
(24:20):
as are in the United States. And now we might
see the extraordinary site of a Royalist Royal Navy vessel
escorting a coking coal ship load into port in the UK.
Speaker 9 (24:34):
Get this.
Speaker 10 (24:34):
They need their coal, but they have to import it
and they're going to escort it with the Royal Navy.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
You could not make this up.
Speaker 10 (24:40):
This is Shakespearean, but I don't know whether it's a
tragedy or a farce.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Peter Jens Oliver there, thank you. We'll stay with that issue.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Prime Minister Keir Starmers recalled MPs from their Easter break
in Britain to pass emergency legislation allowing the government to
take control of steel making operations.
Speaker 14 (25:00):
It allows us to take control of British Steel's BLUs furnaces,
maintaining steel prediction and by extension, protecting the company's three
and a half thousand strong workforce. Now, the bill does
not transfer ownership to the government. We'll have to deal
with this mutter at a later date.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Jodamenad to discuss this. Director at Strategic Analysis Australia Michael Schuebridge. Well, Michael,
you know we're in the middle of a federal campaign here.
Not much is cutting through the tariffs did of course,
I think this is a huge issue. We cannot not
discuss it tonight. I think it's a key warning not
just for Britain but for countries like Australia. Explain to
(25:42):
my viewers why this should put chills down their spine.
Speaker 15 (25:48):
Well, Peter, this is a real shocking wake up call
about the consequences of having Chinese ownership and control of
critical industries and infrastructure. This case with British Steel is
a Chinese company, whether acting for its own commercial or
for government driven purposes, out of Beijing, ending Britain's ability
(26:13):
to make any kind of steel and turning it instead
into a complete dependency on China. And that exertion of
control over critical infrastructure should make us think about the
Chinese ownership of electricity and gas distribution in Australia, and
of course ports like Darwin Port.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
And transmission lines and five G networks and even totriage operators.
I mean, if you wanted to enact some sort of
domestic chaos. You'd have all the traffic lights in the
country fail and all the toll manufacturing reading information, you know,
put a bug in that system and a.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Way we go.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
I mean, these are the things that I think we've
been asleep and what we're seeing play out in the UK.
We're not immune.
Speaker 15 (27:07):
No, it isn't it interesting that Kis Starmer. When he
came to power, he wasn't going to be a national
security prime minister. But since he was elected in July,
he's raised the UK defense budget to two and a
half percent of GDP and he's intervening on critical industry
and infrastructure issues on national security grounds. He's obviously understanding
(27:29):
China is not the UK's new best friend economically or politically,
even with the risks coming out of Washington.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
And the big is here, Michael. Beyond that, the Chinese ownership,
of course, is energy pricing. You heard Chris Hillman on that.
I think this is why you and I have been
saying for years now. Energy security is national security. And
if you throw something like AI in the mix and
the gantuan amounts of power required for that, if Chinese
get the if China gets the jump on us, which
(28:01):
I think they'll almost have on AI and they can
power their AI systems. And we've got, you know, a
wink and a prayer and some dodgy renewals and that's
all we've got between that Namageddon. Well, we just might
as well pack up and go home.
Speaker 15 (28:17):
We are managing our decline, yes, And that's why this
election so far has been so disappointing. We haven't seen
engagement on national security and the connections between energy, technology
and security. Maybe we will in the few weeks left.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
All right, I'll leave it there, thank you, Michael. I'm
hearing too that there might be defense policies come out
this week, but goodness saying we had the launches yesterday.
Let's get the defense stuff out with the launch anyway,
what would I know? All right, after the break, let's
look at the policies, tax savings, cost of living, of
course housing over the weekend. Ross greenwand he'll help us
understand them all. Plus those paid spookers, the legro spender
(28:59):
and those the tills. Don't want you to know these
people are paid. How's that for integrity, ladies. Right in
the moment, we're going to get into the tilS on
social media with the panel. But first I want to
get you to understand just how bloated and confusing the
Australian school curriculum is. Now I have a look at this.
(29:22):
This is a copy of just the maths curriculum. Those
four volumes are not even volumes, it's just they couldn't
be put into one binder. That's the Maths Curriculum year seventy,
year ten, three and a half thousand pages. There a
bloated ideology instruction that just confuses teachers and students absolutely.
(29:43):
This is what's known as it's impacted heavily by what's
known as the cross curriculum priorities. Now that means it's
about two and a half thousand suggestions in those papers
about how to incorporate a whole lot of stuff into
lesson content. Not what you should be teaching kids about maths,
but in the maths content, what you also need to
teach them about indigenous history and culture for example. And
(30:07):
this is not just in maths, this is in biology.
History would work if you can believe it, any subject
in high school has to have woven into it environmental
and indigenous perspectives. Now this comes from the rud Gillard era.
But how a look at our competitors, Singapore. That little document,
I'll put the picture up again. That little document on
(30:27):
the other side. That's Singapore's math curriculum. Now they are
a world leading nation. And it's eighty pages long and
it's all the basics. Someone who's dug right into this detail.
Director of the school's program at the Beginstitute of Public Affairs,
Colleen Harken. I saw a fantastic presentation by you and
(30:49):
Adelaide recently with the IPA, and I was gobsmacked to
see the physical reality of what we're trying to teach
and not teaching very well our kids, and what Singapore
is doing. I didn't think it was that bad.
Speaker 16 (31:02):
No, it's terrible, Peter. I just want to correct you.
But it is a foundation to year ten. It does
not include year eleven and twelve, but it is the
prime time Foundation two year ten.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
But it's an astounding document.
Speaker 16 (31:12):
It is so unwieldy and bloated with activist ideology. And
I know you can't compare directly with other countries because
Singapore has some differences to ours, but when you know
that they are first on the oecdps A results and
we are languishing and our results have been going backwards
year on year for twenty years. You have to look
at it and say, we are clearly doing something very wrong.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
And you know there's a whole industry to hide this
from parents, because when you went looking to have a
look at this document, you can't even get it as
a document.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
No, you can't.
Speaker 16 (31:47):
So that image that you just showed a moment ago
that is not available as a document that we've spent
days upon days having to download each of the sections.
There are elaborations, there are content scriptors, there are all
these things that you have to bury into that image.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Is what it would be if it was a book.
It's not.
Speaker 16 (32:05):
We actually asked a kara for a copy of it
and they said it's not available.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Why would you want that? And that's sort of part
of the scenario about.
Speaker 16 (32:11):
It is very opaque. The ideology that's embedded into it
is shoehorned into every subject, every year, level, every opportunity,
and in maths in particular, it even says things like
teaching children to dance through teaching children to count through
aboriginal dance, the pollution of subject integrity is quite astounding.
(32:33):
Parents would be quite shocked. And then it's no surprise
whereas lots are going backwards. We've got a third of
all of our students and not meeting minimum benchmarks minimum.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
And we're talking about a volume set like that for
every single subject.
Speaker 16 (32:48):
Well, that is what's called one learning area, and there
are eight learning areas in the curriculum. Some of those
learning areas have multiple subjects underneath them, so geography, business history, they.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
All come under one learning area. And if it was.
Speaker 16 (33:02):
Downloaded, I don't know, the curriculum could be I don't know,
one hundred thousand pages. Who knows, because there is so
many that live under Maths is the only one that
has a learning area and a subject as one. Every
other learning area has multiple subjects that sit underneath it.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
And when you're forced by these right era Gillard era
rules to apply Aboriginal culture and learning and environmental practices,
let's say to Maths, what is a teacher meant to
do with that rule?
Speaker 16 (33:34):
Well, it's clearly you know, it's an impossible task. Who
can use a document like that? It means that the
red tape that is involved in their job is extraordinary
because the Singapore one exam is a good example of
if you understand maths, you understand by the end of
certain grade children will be able to do multiplication to
three digits. And if you don't understand what that means,
(33:55):
you shouldn't be a math teacher. And so the Australian
curriculum says, well, you have to go off and understand
something about and I'm not making this up, things like
how aboriginals used ovens to do things that somehow is
shoehorned into mathematics.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
So you have to go off and.
Speaker 16 (34:12):
Do a whole separate task to try and merge those
two principles together, and it is littered throughout them sustainability
and aboriginal torrest rate allows everywhere those sorts of principles.
Even if we agree with them, which I don't, they
find their way into a social sciences curriculum or history.
(34:32):
Perhaps they wouldn't be in maths, so we would be
in biology, they wouldn't be in chemistry.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yeah, correct, and they don't belong there.
Speaker 16 (34:39):
Sustainability and our history and culture doesn't belong in maths.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Just quickly, why we're not having this whole debate? Then,
in the middle of an election CAMPI.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Oh, we definitely should be.
Speaker 16 (34:49):
I mean the coalition is saying back to basics education, education,
not ideology, which is fantastic, but I'd like to see
it given a lot more oxygen because our education system
is in dire need for somebody to actually stand up
and address it and champion the cause for our kids
going in future.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Well you, thank you, stick work.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
All right, that's why I needed to show you this
in the middle of the campaign and make sure you
understand before you vote. All right, quick break, calming back
the panel. Fabulous panel coming up.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
We'll go back.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
In recent days, we've had the admission from fellow teel
Allegora Spender, who says she has paid an agency to
commission content with influencers and she's put them to air.
This is a collaboration with Climate two hundred, but not
much has been disclosed when Negrian, when asked, sort of
dodged the question about whether it should be disclosed in
(35:42):
the interests of integrity and transparency. So let's ask my
panel what they think. When Nation Chief is starf James
Ashby the Skies contributor Gary Hargrave joined me. Now, James,
they campaign on this stuff. They say they're white knights
and you know pure as are driven snow. To me,
this is cash for common Where's the authorization that Pauline
(36:02):
would have to have on the bottom of one of
her ads?
Speaker 12 (36:06):
Exactly, you hit the nail on the head, Peter. Nineteen
ninety nine, cash for comment came out, and I remember
it specifically because I started working in radio in that
same year and it was a big thing because people this.
In that instance, it was the listeners to radio stations
were being misled by two UI at the time, and
there were massive fines that followed it. Now it's probably
(36:28):
too late once this election has been held to go
and investigate, but there should be better transparency and that
is something that Monique Ryan has failed on every level
at this election. And if she did it at this election,
she probably did it at the last you know, with
her husband's stealing core flutes. And now this what I
would call dodgy practice of misleading the public who may
(36:48):
consider voting for it. But I think when they find
these little, these little tipbits out ahead of this election,
they're starting to rethink the tials. They're not transparent. And Monique, right,
betcha she puts in are seeking that money back through
the Electoral Commission, because don't forget, she gets three dollars
thirty eight per vote out there voters, So if you
(37:09):
want to punish her, do not give her a first preference.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Let's go to the comments made by Australia's Race Discrimination Commissioner,
who's refused to explain his criticism of Australia's counter terrorism
laws and policies, including a belief he says that they
conflate Islam with terrorism.
Speaker 13 (37:30):
Garry Well, Peter, let's face it, any of this sort
of stuff just doesn't wash with me, because there is
nothing in our laws in this country that treats a
group differently because of their race or their religion.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
That just isn't.
Speaker 13 (37:49):
And so if you are a law breaker, if you
are somebody who is encouraging people to break the laws,
if you're encouraging hatred, if you're preaching hatred, if you're
actually trying to split the country up, the law may
well look at you. But to suggest otherwise is just wrong.
This bloke is wrong. He's egging it on, and by
his comments alone, he's proving that he in fact is
(38:10):
putting the race into the racial discrimination commissioner job, and
I find that really sad, really really sad, and it's
not good enough. We basically have got to find ways
to get each other on with each other, not to
create these divisions. But that's what this bloke wants to do,
and that's what the alb and Easy government wants to do.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Just quickly, James Ashby going live. Just a few moments
ago on the Nightly website is a story by Latika
Burke who says that she's interviewed the Prime Minister, and
she says that he wants a third term, that if
re elected, he will run the full term. He'll then
run at the next election. He wants three goes of elbow.
(38:51):
But he's also made the point in this interview that
he is flagging a very major cabinet reshuffle. I made
the point a bit earlier he looked pretty confident. Today, Well,
I reckon, that's cocky.
Speaker 12 (39:04):
Well, the Prime Minister doesn't have a say over the cabinet.
He may have a say who goes into which portfolio,
but at the end of the day, the unions will
have the final say. It is very cocky. The Prime
Minister's sort of getting ahead of himself. Two and a
half weeks out from May three. So yeah, I woun't
I wouldn't count the chickens. But you know, if this
(39:25):
government gets a second term, they will certainly not get
a third because what we will see, particularly with the
Greens holding Labor to ransom, is some really draconian laws
that are passed. We will see this country go backwards
and will certainly look like a third world nation if
Labor does get a third term, let alone a second.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Let's go to the masked neo Nazis or they appeared
to be that, who rallied outside Senator James Patterson's office
in Melbourne on Sunday. They chanted a whole lot of
racist slogans. The Patterson, though, came out and spoke about
the incident.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Here he is.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
They covered their faces in a particularly cowardly move. If
they had the drop belief in their system and they
would have actually showed themselves and revealed themselves to the
whole world, I think that speaks volumes about them. We
led the fight over the last three years, Laura to
pass really strong laws at the federal levels of crackdown
on behavior like this. It is now a crime to
engage in a Nazi salute.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Couldn't agree more with that, Gary.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
But what worries me is a reaction by the liberals
in Victoria regarding moy redeeming. But beyond you never know
who these people are. Some of them are masked, of
course they are. They could be neo Nazis. They could
similarly be left wing activists like Antifa who want to
sort of slur a liberal politician with a neo Nazi
far right sort of inference. It concerns me that this
(40:53):
is happening, Peter.
Speaker 13 (40:55):
I always thought the whole deeming matter, that is exactly
what occurred. They just simply brought crowd in, put under costumes,
and they were so courageous they put a mask over
their face. This is where the American political stuff is
coming into the Australian scene. Right now. You've seeing the
left following exactly the same example they're using in the
United States, where they have so little courage they have
(41:16):
to cover their face with a mask, They have to
pretend to be something that people don't realize they are.
And this is the sort of nastiness. This is this
international left that's actually invading this election campaign, and we're
just getting English we're being like to from the left.
It is just so loud, it is so so hard
(41:37):
for Peter Dunn't to get cut through. But it is
actually an orchestrated thing to try and sway this election.
The media mob have chosen have changed an Alba to
win and these left activists so they're probably coming in
from over service frankly that are whipping everybody up.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Yeah, well we've got to track all of that because
I also look at the money. I look at the money, gentlemen,
Thank you very much. That's it from Azy Tomorrow Night
at six. He's Andrew
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