April 23, 2025 • 50 mins
The PM comes under fire for preferencing an anti-Israel Greens candidate, and a Teal is caught out putting up posters where she shouldn’t. Plus, Andrew Hastie on the Coalition’s plan to boost defence.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Peedo Krandler live on Sky News Australia.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Good evening, welcome to the program. Here's what's coming up
tonight on Kredline. The Coalition today finally launching its defense policy.
Andrew Hasty joins me tonight as to take a closer
look at the detail and get a sense from him
too how the lives are tracking in key wa seats.
More detail too on Labour's preference deal with the Greens,
including the anti Israel candidate in the Prime Minister's own electorate.
(00:32):
It called the PM out today he ran from questions,
but it can't pretend there's no preference deal when it
involves his very own seat. The teal, backed by big
climate money, caught out not only putting up posters where
she shouldn't, but using foreign workers to do it. And
the stark reality of Australia's crippling rise in power prices.
(00:53):
A small business operator who's had a sixty percent high
in his power bill and says it just can't go
on like this, And how's this for a former military
man Liberal Andrew Hasty who certainly hasn't forgotten how to
hit the target with this comment leveled against Labour's Defense
Minister Richard Miles.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
This is the thing about Richard Males, talks a big game,
talks about the most dangerous strategic circumstances since the end
of the Second World War. To take a lecture from
Richard Miles, I mean it's it's below the belt.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Right on target. But first, Dutton was obviously keen last
night to get back in the action after the campaign
luwell brought on by the death of the Pope. The
debate was the feistiest so far, the opposition leader pushing
back hard against the PM's dishonest claims that the nuclear
policy would cost six hundred billion dollars.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Well, no, on, only invest in it, Phil, that's a
fact illegal, that's point because John Howard sitting.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Place the ban will lift them time and let the
market and David six hundred billion dollar figure comes from
a company that is a donor to the Labor Party,
full of labor staffers. Discredited and it is at odds
with one hundred and twenty billion dollar figure for the
construction of nuclear power site, which is the CSIRO figure.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
And another hit two against the PM's equally dishonest claims
that Medicare bulk billing was under threat from the Coalition will.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Be honest health each and education every year, every increasing
for it. Minister, you couldn't lie straight in bed, Honestly,
this is unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
It can go to abuse.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
Well, it's just the gaseous reality.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
And the cumulative impact of don't finally taking these issues
these lies head on was a front page like this
one for Today's West Australian. Can't lie straight in bed
at read? Those liars are starting to catch up with
a PM. At some point in this campaign he was
going to face hard questions and serious scrutiny. Hopefully that
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started today with journalists tackling him over the decision to
preference in anti Israeli Green in his own seat, especially
after saying he would not do deals with the Greens.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
I will out negotiating with the Greens. That's even further
for you.
Speaker 7 (03:13):
Can you rule out any changes to negative gearing and
capital gains tests?
Speaker 6 (03:18):
How hard is it for the fiftieth.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Time using this negotiators with the Greens in horse former government,
in horse trading devotes and other matters.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Also, at some point the Colition was going to have
to take Labour's lies and pull them apart. Now it
should have happened earlier because Labour's only real strategy here
is a dishonest scare campaign against Peter Dutton. Finally, on
this front, TiO, we've seen some action. This morning. The
Coalition released what it said it was a comprehensive list
(03:52):
of the PM's lies, seventy six lies in twenty seven days,
including it says fifteen lies in just over an hour
during last night's debate. Now here are just a few.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
On The truth is bulk billing was in free fall
because the incoming Liberal government. The last time they won
fifty billion dollars out of the hospital system.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Fact Peter Dunton was Health minister. Funding increased by sixteen
percent in two years.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
This on education, thirty billion dollars ripped out of education.
That was the twenty fourteen Abbot budget.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
In fact, the previous College government increased funding for public
schools year on year on budget deficits.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
What we had to do when we came into office
was clean up the mess. Turn Liberal Party deficits. Seventy
eight billion dollars was what was predicted in that first year.
We turned that into a twenty two billion dollar surplus.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
In fact, then even the journalist Phil Cooury fact check
the PM on this. The actual deficit was not even
half of that.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
The seventy eight billion you inheritor was actually deficit was
actually a forecast.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
The actual number was thirty one billion, when.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
What it was forecast by the former governor.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
But the actual number was thirty one.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
And then there was this The budget papers in twenty
four day have line items there fifty billion dollars ripped
out of health, thirty billion dollars ripped out of education.
That was the twenty fourteen Abbot budget.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Now the fact is there are no references in the
twenty fourteen budget, not one to cutting health or education spending.
And then this Alban Easy professing that he'll be more
disciplined in how he spends your money.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
And the current deficit, of course is there, but we've
harved it, will continue to work on savings, continue to
produce value. That's because we understand how important it is.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Fact well, there been no saves from this government. Indeed,
labours spending, decisions of costs, the budget body line accumulative
one hundred and forty four billion dollars. Now it was
way past time for the Coalition to take the gloves
off against Anthony Albaneasy because there's been no kid glove
treatment from labor for the opposition. Peter Dutton and Andrew
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face Dye will they've faced? Andrew Hasty faced a feral
media in Perth today announcing the coalition's defense policy to
increase spending to two point five percent of GDP in
the next term of parliament and to three percent over
the decade. The Defense Shadow was asked four times about
comments from twenty eighteen about women in combat, despite making
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it crystal clear that under the Coalition combat places would
be open to anyone who could meet the physical standards.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Do you think women should serve in combat roles in
the adf YEA. The Coalition policies that all combat roles
are open to women. It's been a long standing position.
So we need to be able to win every fight
that we go into and that's why we'll uphold high standards.
Thank you. Have you seen that you can have lower standards?
Speaker 8 (07:01):
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Hardly? It's hardly saying we have one standard.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Sounds like from that answer that you still think women
aren't strong enough.
Speaker 9 (07:11):
That is that right that women aren't strong enough to
deal with that sort of combat you described.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Again, No, I didn't say that at all.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Do you not believe in your own policy, then if
that's your personal belief for the coalition policy, it's allthing different.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
I'm standing right here saying there's one policy. I mean,
this is kind of student politics stuff. He waked it
out of the park.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
And perhaps this is the media's pack instinct to turn
our leader and a team they think is headed for
defeat into a laughing stock. Or it didn't work, and
if the polls are right, the campaign momentum might be
now for Labor. But this is an unusual election and
the politically aware or they are highly motivated. Of course
they're out there, they're prepolling, but get out into the
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real world. Most photos are unenthusiastic and undecided either way,
meaning the vote is soft and that means any one
can get it. Elections in Australia decided seat by seat
in practical terms, are really one hundred and fifty local
contests as well as a national one, where the local
issues and strong local candidates can really make a difference
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regardless of what's happening between the two leaders. Talking to
Coalition people on the ground who are manning pre polls again,
they opened yesterday, so I've spoken to people today and yesterday.
There's continuing optimism for strong results. Some half a million
people voted yesterday. That's two hundred thousand more that on
the first day of pre polling in twenty twenty two,
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and traditionally strong early voting has signaled a likely change
of government.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Now, what do I know.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
From personal experience, especially in the twenty ten campaign, Nothing
succeeds like persistence. Tony Abbott was behind in every poll
that year and every day of every pole throughout the campaign,
but he ended up winning more seats than Labor Again,
that's true for Scott Morrison in twenty nineteen. Last night,
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Darton was sharper.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
We need to make sure that we can get our
country back on track, that we can help manage the economy,
that we can reduce the costs in the economy, that
we can provide a twenty five cent a leader cut
to fuel to help families now until we can sort
out the energy system mess and make sure that we
can bring down the prices of food. We also have
a great plan to help young home buyers get into housing.
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We need to make sure that we can help them
achieve the dream of home ownership, and we also want
to make sure that we can keep our country safe.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
If he can be as relentlessly focused as he was
last night and today for the final ten days of
this campaign, that a lot of pollsters will have egg
on their face now. For me, I just don't want
to believe that Australians will reward the lyar in the lodge.
With three more years. We will see, won't we. Let's
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check in with the two campaigns, starting with the Prime Minister.
Join me now. Political reporter Cam Reddin Well, Cam, I
always like to track in the final fortnite where they're
going and how many seats they're returning back to. I
think it's really instructive about what they're worried they might
lose or what they're hoping they might pick up. The PM, well,
he was back in West Australia and this time he
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went to one of the sites where Peter Dutton's proposed
to build a nuclear reactor. So what can you tell us?
Speaker 10 (10:31):
Yeah, that was the side of Collie Peter. One of
those seven sites that Peter Dutton is earmarked. You can't
help it. There's a bit of showmanship about this visit today,
so that the Albani could rack up and say here
I am somewhere that Peter Dutton hasn't been during the campaign.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
We know that Labor is trying.
Speaker 10 (10:48):
To focus in on that figure from the Smart Energy
Council report.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
They say it would cost six.
Speaker 10 (10:53):
Hundred billion dollars that plan from the coalition. We've seen
a bit more forthright pushback from senior figures within the
opposition to that figure, even in the last couple of days,
noting that that same report said well, actually, in a
best case scenario, if everything went according to plan, it
could come in significantly lower at one hundred and sixteen billion,
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not six hundred billions. So started to see a little
bit more forthright pushback I think on that front.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
Peter, you mentioned Collie.
Speaker 10 (11:21):
Well, that's where we've been in the seat of O'Connor
southwest WA. We're just crossing the border now into the
seat of Canning, which yes is held by the shadow
Defense Minister. The margin there though, very narrow, so we're
just getting there now.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
We'll see if we stop.
Speaker 10 (11:33):
The one thing you mentioned there too in pre Pole,
which is really interesting five hundred thousand people voting yesterday.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
I can tell you that just later.
Speaker 10 (11:40):
This afternoon the AEC ticked over more than one million
people pre polling in the first forty eight hours.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
That blows every record out of proportion.
Speaker 10 (11:50):
How much do we read into that? What we've had easter,
We've got Anzac Day tomorrow, So it's a bit of.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
An abridged week if you like. For pre pole.
Speaker 10 (11:57):
They think that there might be just some people cramming
five days of voting into three, if you like.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
So we'll see if we.
Speaker 10 (12:02):
Can read anything into that if it drops off over
coming days. But back on the road in Wa, we
know the labour brand is strong here and they think
this will be key holding seats in particular around the
city to securing a second term in government.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, certainly the state labor brand is strong. I'm less
convinced about federal labor. We'll leave it there, Thanks Cam.
Now to Peter Dutton's campaign. It wrapped up in Perth.
He's currently on his way back, I presume me, but
we don't really know, do we. Reuben Spargo filed this report.
Speaker 11 (12:30):
Peter Dutton is in Perth selling his defense spending promise.
The longer waited policy is opening up a new front
in this election campaign. The Trump administration is calling for
allies to spend three percent of GDP on defense. The
opposition leader claims he will meet the target within a decade,
but it has nothing to do with the United States.
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Over the next five years, the Coalition will spend twenty
one billion dollars more than labor. Under Anthony Alberzi, the
defense budget is forecast to hit two point three to
three percent of GDP by twenty thirty three thirty four.
Labour's on the attack asking how the Coalition will pay
for its increase. Are you going to make any savings
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to pay for this announcement?
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Will find savings, as we've belend clear as how as
John Howard did in ninety six, where Labor has invested
in the programs where they're that money's not being spend efficiently,
and we've given guarantees in relation to health and education
and other areas of Commonwealth expenditure. But the fact is
that Labour always wastes money. This is a biggest spending
government for forty years. They spend money. That's what drives
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up interest rates.
Speaker 11 (13:36):
The Coalition maintains it will release its costings in the
lead up to the election. Visiting this defense industry manufacturer
in the Labor held seat of Swan. The opposition is
promoting more than a business boost. Peter Dunston is seeking
to be tough on national security. He needs this policy
to land with voters. With time quickly running.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Out, I was loved tonight and I've actually got my
guests with me. I'm in Sydney and I'm joined here
in the studio by senior reporter Caroen the Marcus and
senior fellow at the Mensies Research Center, Nick Cata. Well,
welcome to you both. Hey, the lies are starting to
catch up with Labor here. Last night it was this
from the opposition leader.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
You'll been honest.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Fifty health each and B and education every year. Epulation
is increasing for it.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Minister, you couldn't slice straight in bed. Honestly, this is unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
It can go to abuse. Well, it's just the gashous reality.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
And now there's admission finally from the Health Minster Mark
Butler today that for many people you know this better
than me, your Medicare card is not enough by itself
to pay to see the doctor.
Speaker 12 (14:41):
There will be Australians who will continue to be charged
to gap fee, but we think we can get to
ninety percent for all Australians under these arrangements.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Well, Akti, I don't think I have been bulk builled
for a GP visit since I was a UNI student
and that is a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Why this sham medi scare scam to start unraveling, hasn't it, Peter?
I mean, the fact is that billing episodes are down
by twelve percent under this government. There's been a dramatic
fall since over the last three years in at the
lowest level they've been at for twenty years. And the
fourteen million extra bulk billing sessions that the Prime Minister
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promises that won't even barely take them up to where
they were when they came into office, So that this
is absolute scare. It's a shocker and it's just amazing
to me it's taken so long to come out.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Do you think it feels like the coalition is actually
taking labor head on now? I know we've got ten
days to go and someone say it's too late, but
you know, finally there's some fighting the.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Dog absolutely and we should look at these urgent care clinics.
I mean the story on the Sky News website that
the urgent care clinics that they promised, only half of
them were opened the hours they said they would be.
The fundamental problem is a lack of doctors. It's not
throwing more money into medicare, particularly more money to try
and recruit more doctors, because that's what will bring the
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price about building down.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Right, Let's go that preference scanner, because the PM said
uphill and down, David he will not do a deal
with the Greens, but he has already and it even
includes his own seat of Grainler, so he can't say
he's not doing one. It's in his seat where he's
giving his top preference to an Israel hating radical who's
running for the Greens. His name is Hannah Thomas. The
PM was asked about this this morning and decided it
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was the Australian newspapers for fault for publishing the information.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Why is the Australian determined to give the Greens such profile.
It's rather strange. I've got to say I wouldn't have
been able to tell you if you'd have asked me
who the candidate was. Last Timmern in this seat. I
won on primaries. I won on primaries, That's why the
system works. I got more than fifty percent of the vote.
I look forward to people voting number one for me
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and then filling in all the numbers just as they
did to make sure it's a formal vote. And I
don't intend to promote the name or the candidate of
the Greene Party candidate, and I'm surprised that the Australia
determined to promote them.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Mock in souscience. I'd say that because you know, I
don't know the name, I don't care who they are,
but it's so good I don't care enough. I'm going
to give them my number two preferences.
Speaker 13 (17:25):
It is literally on his how to vote cards, so
he cannot use that excuse. But it is classic Albanesi
to deflect like that and somehow put the blame onto
a reporter asking the question like it's their fault that
he's found himself in a situation where he's even been
questioned about it. I'm sorry, but this is a person
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who not only apparently represents everything that Alberanzi has been
talking about the extremist Greens for the past year or two,
but also stood at an anti Israel protest holding an
f Labor sign with fake bloe on it, and he
is who, this is, who he is directing voters to
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put second. It is absolutely appalling. So he's already done
this deal clearly.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
And it's not just him, it's.
Speaker 13 (18:11):
The entire Labor Party save Josh Burns, who's running on
an open.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
One hundred and fifty exactly.
Speaker 13 (18:19):
And what I was particularly disappointed in seeing. I mean,
I'm not shocked, but I'm disappointed that Mark Dreyfus, most
senior Jewish politician, our attorney general, has preferenced a green
as well as the second pick. And I've previously called
him on air, I've used the term Kappo. Has struck
me because it reminds me of the Jewish inmates and
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concentration camps who would collaborate with the Nazis and brutalize
their fellow Jews in order to survive. Now I'm not
saying literally he's collaborating with Nazis here, but he is
trying for political survival by picking something that is a
betrayal to his own community. So look, it's shocking, but
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not shocking in the same sense. And It just shows
that he Albanez, he cannot be trusted, nor can his
entire government when it comes to those promises that he's
not going to negotiate with the Greens because as you say,
this is a deal, this is a preference deal to
trade preferences. And I might also add Peter that the
Greens candidate did not even give him the same benefit.
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She didn't put him second. She's preferenced and independent above
ALBANIZI well.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I'll tell you what I told you, and I've said
this again. You know Adam vand if he gets there
as co prime Minister will have the whipan the International
Monetary Fund. The IMF today is you should have start
warning for whomever forms government that our economy is headed
for a sharp downturn. The IMFs downgraded our GDP growth projections.
These are the government's projections to one point six percent,
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down from two point one percent. That's what they just
put out six months ago, while also projecting that inflation
will rise above budget expectations. Inflation's an interesting one because
I think everyone's out there saying that we're going to
get this almost bankable cut in official rates, so down
we'll go mortgages. Not so if inflation returns.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
No, well, we can't get inflation down until we reduce
government spending, which is locked in at around twenty seven
percent of GDP, two percent higher or more than two
percent higher than it was before the pandemic. So as
long as we are spending money, inflation pressure will be
there on inflation and this is hurting families, isn't it interesting?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Peter?
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Now we have defense on the agenda finally in this campaign,
as you pointed out earlier in the show, and now
at last we have the economy and fiscal management on
the agenda thanks to the IMF, and let's hope we
have a serious discussion on this because clearly for the
future of the country those two issues are crucial, and
yet we haven't been talking about them so far in
this campaign.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Let's go back to the PM and his extolling of
his Catholic faith this week. He's got to be pretty
embarrassed today then by his Labour canon. The Queensland seat
of Flynn Helen Maddel, who in now deleted tweets from
twenty twenty accused of late Pope Pope Francis, are providing
ongoing support This is her quote for Pedo's Here was
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a PM today when asked about this.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
She made a mistake that shouldn't have happened. And people,
if they go back through their history in social media,
I'm sure there's lots of people have made things they regret.
She has said she regrets it, and that's entirely appropriate.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I've said this before, Caroline, and it makes I guess
your point there about Jewish labor. MP's powerful as well.
Religion for the hard left is a venia. It gets
dragged out in election campaigns, the Prime ministers using it.
Now others are using it. But these guys sneer at
people of faith, and when in government, all the things
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they promised, like religious freedom protections, they never eventuate.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (21:55):
Absolutely, And I think it's pretty rich for Alberan Easy
to be coming out and being and defending this candidate.
You know, his own party have attacked Andrew Hasty, who
I know is coming up on the program over past
comments he's made, so that there seems to be a
double standard. Don't talk about past comments when it comes to.
Speaker 12 (22:17):
Our own people.
Speaker 13 (22:18):
But it's fine, it's open slab when it comes to
the other side.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
But on your point.
Speaker 13 (22:23):
About their real religious convictions, their personal convictions. I mean,
you only have to look at Anthony Alberanize's past comments
that he's made. He called Tony Abbott a mad monk.
As I'm sure you remember, he's criticized Scott Morrison for
mixing church and state. He does seem to have a
deeply held contempt almost for people that have these this
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deep religious faith. So I think it's very difficult to
see what he's saying, and how what he's said since
the Pope's death and take it seriously or treat it
with that it's authentic.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Just quickly. Early voting, I mean it's at record levels today.
The numbers are coming in from the AEC. In the past,
it's always been a bit of a point that when
people come in hard and early, the government's on the nose, right,
the government's on its way out the back door. Do
you read anything into this rise in prepoles today.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I think it's a bad thing that we've got so
much prepolling, Peter, But I'm not convinced that this is
The people who are voting are the undecided voters. It
seems to me that the voters that are not sure
that the undecided will wait till the last minute. The
ones people who have been going into the last couple
of days clearly of people that knew who they were
going to vote for. So I don't think we can
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read too much of the into the result from this,
except to say that there is a large number of
undecided voters, a big soft vote for labor, and that
could still come the Coalition's way, just.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Quickly, Caroline Bradfield, you've been out there talking to the
teals and just skullduggery going on.
Speaker 13 (23:56):
Well, look the candidate that Nicolae Buller. She's had a
very interesting few weeks. First there was the hairdresser scandal,
where it emerged that she'd been banned from her local
hairdresser after she made inappropriate sexual comments to a nineteen
year old apprentice.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
And then I.
Speaker 13 (24:11):
Revealed yesterday that she had made these anti Semitic comments
on her social media page. She's blamed those comments on
a volunteer. And then also this issue about power poles
that she's been plagued with too. Her core flutes have
been all over the Pacific Highway major highway here in
Sydney on power poles. Osgrid's issued her a warning, but
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she's defended it, saying she's received legal advice, saying that
that's okay to do, and everyone else starts down, she
won't take them down. She's holding steadfast. It'll be interesting
to see what Osgrid did it she so she defended
those decisions, but she was pretty apologetic about some of
the other stuff. This is what she had to say
about those antisminic posts.
Speaker 9 (24:56):
It was an absolutely awful, disgraceful any Semitic post and
it was done by a volunteer. I was not my views,
and I apologized. I think political leaders right across the
spectrum have a responsibility to call out and stand up
against anti Semitism, and that's exactly what I will do
if I have the privilege of being elected.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Interesting, I've got some things to tell you tomorrow either
about her history as well. Let's move on now, Thank
you both for your time to the jaw dropping reality
for businesses around Australia getting hammered by crippling power bills.
Let's turn to just one example. You'll find the town
of Dorigo, about half an hour west of Cross Harbor.
It's a region that punches above its weight in terms
of tourism thanks to the proximity it has to a
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national park and the strength of the beef industry and
local publican too. The Heritage Hotel, which is at the
heart of the Dorigo community but for how long, worries
its owners. Here's why. Electric costs for the hotel are
through the roof have nearly sixty percent under labor from
just thirty seven thousand a year ago to more than
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sixty thousand dollars, and it is rising. Dorigo is located
in the seat of Kauper, which is on the threat
from a Teal independent and if the last three years
have proved anything, it's the climate push from Teals and
others from the left that's driving up power prices as
more and more renewables are forced into the system. Well
enough's enough, says the owner of the pub, Peter Ferros.
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Peter Ferross joins me. Now, Peter, thank you for your time.
I know everyone in a small business is busy, but
you raise this with me on email, and I wanted
to talk to real people on the show. Given how
hard these power prices are hitting you in your community.
What's it been like opening up these bills? It must
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be a real sense of dread for you.
Speaker 14 (26:46):
It is, and it is particularly disturbing that we have
the Prime Minister and the Labor Party and the two
saying that renewables are the cheapest form of energy when
the bills go up by this amount. It's fifty nine
per peter over the last three years, so that's twenty
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thousand dollars and the economy in Dorigo is not going up,
and that's just coming straight off the bottom line.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yeah, I was going to ask you that because I mean,
if you're a really big company, you possibly pass that
through down your supply chain. But if you're in the
business of pouring beer, you can't put sixty percent on
the price of a schooner, but you need to pay
the power bill to keep the beer coal. I mean,
what do you do? How do you cut your cloth here?
Speaker 14 (27:38):
Well, you don't. You just got to take the less profit, Peter.
There's no solution to it. We have very busy bistro
in Dorigo. There's one best diying north coast for the
last seven years, and we just can't put up the
meal prices because there's an amount to people can afford
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to pay. And yet that's a backbone of the business.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I've been to Dorigo. I can concur with the awardor
pub has won. But you've had an electrical engineer I understand,
to analyze the energy billet or the usage at your hotel.
Tell us about that.
Speaker 14 (28:18):
Yes, well, he's analyzed the usage of all the electrical
use in the hotel. He's found that the baseline usage
is in the cool rooms, the freezer room, and the fridges,
and that goes on all day, twenty four hours a day,
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and then we have a peak in the morning where
people get up and have breakfast, and then we have
a busier people at night when people come to the bistro. Now,
none of those are covered by solar throughout the day.
So we're looking at a quote for a solar at
one hundred and twenty five that would have to be
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backed up because we need it at night of another
one hundred and fifty thousand in batteries. That's two hundred
and seventy five thousand dollars to get a renewable solution
for a hotel in a small country town. That's a
level of investment. It's just not viable.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Just before we go, Peter, if you could have your say.
You know, if the Prime Minister or god forbid, Chris
Bowen was to walk in the apartment, sit up at
the bar, what would you say.
Speaker 14 (29:32):
To them we need coal? There?
Speaker 2 (29:37):
You go pretty blind assessment there, Peter Ferriss, all the
very best, all the very best. I'll love it there.
If you can support his pav or any pub around
the country, they're doing it tough in country towns. Please
I say that as someone from the Bush, please support
them all. Right after break, Finally we're a real choice
when it comes to defense this election. I'm going to
speak to Shadow Minister Andrew Hasty about today's beginning but
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also how the lives faring in Wa. The PM's back
there again today, I think that's pretty telling. Plus a
growing apathy of young Australians when it comes to ANZAC
day and what it says too about who'll defend Australia
if it's ever needed. Welcome Back's still to come. The
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staggering amount of tax you paid last financial years, both
state and federal governments become addicted to other people's money.
But first, today the Coalition unveiled it's long away to
defense funding plan, pledging to boost spending by twenty one
billion dollars over the next five years. This would see
spending on defense rise by the Coalition to two point
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five percent of GDP within that period and reach three
percent of GDP within a decade. Joining me now to
discuss this and more, Shadow Defense Minister, and you're hasty,
and you're welcome to the program. Look, it's not just
the quantum you spend. You know that, I know that,
But where you spend it, how you spend it. Tell
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me how your plan's different from what Labour says we need.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Good evening, Peter, Well, it's good question. Labor has run
down defense over the last three years. There's been no
money and they've kept the spend at two percent of GDP.
It's been static for the last three years. And the
reality is that UCAS is a big imposition on the
defense budget. So we've got to grow the defense budget
or we'll keep cannibalizing capabilities in Army, Navy, and Air Force,
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which is what's happening right now under Labor. In fact,
we've seen eighty billion dollars worth of cuts, delays, and
reprioritizations in defense under Richard Miles and Anthony alban easy.
So we are investing in defense, and the question is where, well,
aucus is one thing we're going to get Orcus moving,
it's it's been delayed under labor. We're going to reinstate
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the fourth squadron of F thirty five Joint Strike fighters.
We're going to invest in drone and counter drone techtechnology,
and we're going to rebuild army and navy and particularly
the sustainment budgets. One of the first things that always
gets cut is the sustainment budget, and which means our
pilots don't get enough flying hours, our sailors don't get
enough sea time, and our troops don't get to train
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with live ammunition. So these are the things that we're
going to reinstate with our spend.
Speaker 8 (32:20):
I know when.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Australians look at you, they feel confident that if the
worst came to the worst, that we really were in
a skirmish or something worse on our horizon, that you
and the job would do your best to keep Australia safe.
A lot of your supporters, though, I have to say, Perturb,
that it's taken the Coalition a long time to get
this policy out. What would you say to that.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Well, Peter address this today. Peter doesn't address this today.
Peter is prudent with the way he spends money. He's
run businesses throughout his previous career and he's making sure
that we have the money to do this. So that's
why we've committed this at this point in time, and
it's a safe investment, and that's the important thing. We're
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not going to pull money out, We're not going to
make ridiculous policy on the run. We're actually going to
think this through and that's what Peter Dutton and the
team have done. So this is surety over the next
five years two point five percent of GDP in five years.
We're going to get it up to three percent in
ten years, and of course labor are shooting for two
point three to three in ten years, so we need
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this money. It's been through a process, is the point
I'd make, And of.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Course it's key to negotiating with the United States because
it's saying allies around the world, we will stand with you,
but you've got to lift your game and start to
help yourself. And I think that's one of the flaws
for the government should it ever go back to Donald
Trump and try and negotiate a better deal on tariffs.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
That's right. We've got to demonstrate to the Americans as
part of the AUCUST deal, that we're going to be
sovereign ready by twenty thirty. In order to be sovereign ready,
we've got to in hma Sterling here in Perth. We've
got to uplift it from a conventional to a nuclear base.
We've got to build a supply chain. We've got to
invest in our education sector. We've got to identify the
tradesmen who are going to do the nuclear welding and
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all the sorts of maintenance that is required of our submarines.
We've got to do that by twenty thirty, and labor
is not spending enough money to get that done. And
so we're going to invest in WA. We're going to
invest in Aucust, which is really important, and that will
demonstrate to whoever's president in twenty thirty that we are
ready to go to receive our Virginia Class submarines.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Hey, I want to pick up some comments today pretty
feral press conference today, when you got into some previous
things you've said about women and men in combat zones.
It's not just women, it's women and men. But I'll
play the comments now for my viewers.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
When I think about some of the things I had
to do in a close combat unit up at Bindoon
not far from here, life fire drills where you practice
a man down very anaerobic, very aerobically intensitive. You need
fine motor skills you're firing live rounds. I remember picking
up an eighty five kilo mate with my pack and
webbing and my leg's buckling. Now I did that in training,
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but I work with men who did that under fire
in combat.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Yeah, I make the point. I think I made it
at the time at my show when I went to
Afghanistan and met sas soldiers like you. On the ground,
I picked up someone's pack. I could barely lift the pack,
let alone be able to lift someone if I had
to out of trouble on a battlefield. Now, if I
could do it, and I'm six foot two, if I
could do it, I'd argue for the job. But if
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I can't do it, it's about my physical ability, Andrew. It's
got nothing to do with my gender. I think it's
hard for anyone listening to you today to disagree with
the point you're making.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
That's right, which is why we insist on one standard
for our combat units, whether it's to be a fighter
pilot or a member of the second Commando Regiment or
the sas, whatever it might be, one standard, meet the
standard you're in.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Yeah, I commend you on how you handle that today. Hey,
what's going on with Russia Indonesia and the ducks and drakes.
The government's play by refusing to give you as they
should under the Caretaker conventions, are proper defense briefing.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Well, it's a massive report that apparently the Russians have
approached Indonesia to put an airhead to our north in
Indonesian territory. Now we don't know how true that report is,
but we deserve a brief because it's a very significant
move by Russia, a continental power all the way up
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in Europe, to then start venturing down into the Indo
Pacific as far south as Indonesia. So we should be
getting a brief, and even if it's a secure brief,
we should be brought in. And Labor don't want the scrutiny.
It looks like they've been caught on the run and
they don't want to make this an election issue because
they're weak on national security. That's the point about Anthony Albanezi.
For the last three years, he's demonstrated consistent, persistent weakness
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in the face of strategic challenges in our region.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Just on Anazac Day. Of course, it's Friday. Survey out
today that says less than one in four younger Australians
so thirteen to twenty eight years, feels a strong connection
to Anzac Day. Only sixteen percent of gen z say
they defend the nation if they had to. I've always
said Andrew first, they're going to come for Australia Day,
this is the hard left. Then they'll go after Anzac Day.
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We've got a PM in this country who seems ashamed
of our flag. So how do you turn this around?
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Well, I think that young Australians just want to be challenged.
No one's actually asked them to step up, no one's
actually asked them to serve will be part of our
Anzak tradition. Of course, there's issues in our education system
with a syllabus that runs down a lot of our history,
the good parts of it. We've got to tell all
sides of history. But even the good parts of our
history are being run down by some areas of the
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education sector. But I think the reality is we've seen
this sorry before. We saw it in the UK. In fact,
in nineteen thirty three at the Oxford Union where they
had a debate that people would no longer fight for
King and country, and the debate was one with a
big majority young Britons at the time voted never to
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defend king and country. Well, the Second World War broke
out in nineteen thirty and in nineteen forty it was
young Britons who defended the UK from German invasion at
the cost of many lives. So I have every confidence
that if young Australians were asked to step up, they
would meet the challenge. And it's finding those young Australians
now and getting them into uniform and serving our country.
That's what I'm going to do as Minister for Defense.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Look, we're always out of time, But the PM's going
to wa a lot. That says to me maybe he
thinks he's in trouble. How's a campaign going on the ground.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Look, we're working really hard. I'm in the South metropolitan area.
I know young Norberger up in Pierce is working hard.
Matt Moran and the seat of bullwinkled, Tom White in Curtain,
Howard Ong in Tangney, our key seats, that's what we're
focused on. To my south, Ben's small in Forest. These
people are working very, very hard for the Liberal Party
and you know what, we're starting to see the needle turn.
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We're starting to see people saying, you know what, this
prime minister, he's weak, he's woke, and he's sending us
broke as Advance is making very clear. And it's no
surprise that he was in college today. He keeps name
checking me in his press conferences. I'm clearly living rent
free in his head. And he's even passing through Canning
in the next half hour to visit one of my prepoles.
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So he's more than welcome to come because this is
where labor prime ministers come to lose elections.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Stay in the media. Andrew Hasty, we need more of
you on the national campaign, not less of you. Thanks
for joining me tonight, all right after break. The regular
amount of tax you are paying, it's never been this
high in Australian history. Welcome back your first The government's
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tax take is staggering. News today that Australian has paid
eight hundred and two billion dollars in taxes last financial year,
with the ableed Australian taxpayer contributing nearly thirty thousand dollars
each first of income tax made up more than half
that share, its biggest percentage in twenty five years, raising
serious concerns about fairness, competitiveness and economic pressure on working families.
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And when we talk about tax I'm always reminded of this.
Speaker 8 (40:27):
Now. Of course I am minimizing my tax and if
anybody in this country doesn't minimize their actually want.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Their head droom.
Speaker 8 (40:34):
Because I at a government, I can tell you you're
not spending it that well, that we should be donating extra.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Joining me now, my Paneltary Barnes from the Spectator, a
National Party senator Mat Canaman. Well, Matt, I tell you
what Kerry Packer. He was on the money there and
it's only got worse.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Well, that's right, Peter.
Speaker 15 (40:55):
The other side of what Kerry was saying is the spending,
which I'll get to, which is not all ways well done.
But on these statistics about the taxing, the important thing
for people to realize here is that those taxes have
gone up at a federal level by three thousand dollars
a year per person since Anthony Albanzi was elected. So
not only your power bills up by one thousand dollars.
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If you're an average homeowner in this country with an
average mortgage, your home repayments have gone up by about
twelve thousand dollars a year. Your grocery bills have gone
up by about three thousand dollars a year. And then
on top of that you get a tax bill that's
gone up three thousand dollars a year as well. No
wonder when I've been at the booths these last two days,
verse two days of voting, seeing so many people struggling
at the moment under this Albanesi government. And then you
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come to the spending side here as well. That's even
the scarier thing. This government has increased spending massively. We're
now spending. Get this, Peter. Before COVID, your federal government
spent four hundred and seventy eight billion.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Dollars a year of your money.
Speaker 15 (41:52):
Now that sits after three years of labor at seven
hundred and seventy seven billion, it's three hundred billion dollars more.
We've got rid of job Keeper, We've got rid of
all those COVID relief programs. Yet we're now spending three
hundred billion dollars a year more. They are only ten
million households in this country. That's thirty thousand dollars a
year extra of spending. And that's just that extra spending
is going to have to be future taxes unless we
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get that under control.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
And no one says they're better off. They're not better
off for it, so it's not like it's good money
well spent. Hey, Terry, I want to get your view
on this, given your history in the in the health
portfolio area. This is the PM's Medicare stunt. It keeps
pulling out that green card. Now, doctors groups have called
him out on this. They said it is not right
to say that's all you need to see a GP.
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But he's putting stuff into letterboxes. He's got flyers going
out everywhere. The ground game on Medicare, from what I'm seeing,
is extraordinary. If labor survive, it'll be because of these lies.
Speaker 16 (42:53):
We've been here before too, haven't we. Peter MIDI scare
Mark three or four. But look, when it comes to
what the Labor Party is proposing on bulk billing, I'm
not in me too, on it by any means, I
don't think it will work. Frankly, I don't think it
will work. And more than the point, I think good
on Shadow Minister and Rustin calling out to Mark Butler
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today the Minister in terms of Anthony Alberonizi's claims that
everybody is going to be covered by bulk billing, I mean,
mister Butler made it clear that that is not the case.
But really in terms of what they're proposing, I just
can't see it working. It might marginally improve bulk building
in lower socioeconomic areas, but in middle Australia no, because
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doctors will charge what they think they can afford or
what can get. And the reality is it might improve
bulk billing in broad meadows, but it won't in places
like bright.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Now more sort of shine coming off the teals. Voters
are looking at their record. We know that's true and
how often they vote across the board with the Greens.
But also now donations in so called transparency a Legraspender Well,
she says she wants reform, she's all about integrity, but
just last month she received a fifty thousand dollars donation
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where we know she did she put it up on
her website, but then she just listed it as anonymous.
We also know from a recent media report that Climate
two hundred Simon Holmes a court well, he's such a
drag now on the Teal vote that many of these
women are trying to distance themselves from him. Are you
surprised ready?
Speaker 3 (44:24):
This not at all, Peter.
Speaker 15 (44:29):
I mean, the Teals have always sought to apply standards
to others which they don't seem to want to apply
to themselves, and so they've got some standards they're just
called double standards unfortunately for the Teals. And look, this
stick sort of worked perhaps a few years ago, when
they could act wholly than now and claim that they
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would be better than what they perceived to be going
on in politics.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
They promised a new politics.
Speaker 15 (44:55):
There's anything really changed with them, apart from the level
of hypocrisy in Canberra growing. And so I think people
are waking up to that that the Teals are actually,
perhaps even worse on transparency than normal political parties. We've
seen this absurd situation where apparently some of the Teals
have been paying influences online to say nice things about them,
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but are refusing disclose who they've paid. It's all a
bit schoolyard and gossipy. Soon we get in the back
of these people, I think the better our parliament will be.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Terry just quickly the front page of the Herald sign
in Victoria. This is a story that has not gone away.
And more bad news of course for Daniel Andrews, the
young man that was mowed down on a bike in
a car driven by mister or missus. We're told it
was missus Andrews on a bike in twenty twenty ten.
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I think it might have been. He has got now
a secret cash deal to prevent what would have been
an explosive Supreme Court case. We're told the family is
still going to go to court. They still are pursuing
a defamation case. This little boy, he's my boy now,
but he only lost his life at the time. This
is something that is continuing, as I say to dog
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the former premier.
Speaker 16 (46:10):
Oh absolutely, Peter, and it's dogging the Labor party as
well in Victoria. But the reality is that that legal
case you're talking about, the settlement was actually with the
boys and his family's lawyers. It wasn't with the Daniel
Andrews or his wife Catherine, and certainly we're talking about
somebody's reputation here, if their reputation has been slanted in
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the way that it has been, by the way this
has been dragged through the media and dragged through the courts,
I think he's got to go all the way. He
has to defend it, and if he wants to take
it to court and super defamation, good luck to him.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
We'll say that'll be interesting because of course with defamation
comes discovery, and that's accessing a whole lot of records.
I suspect the former premier does not want to see daylight.
Thank you, gentlemen. Catch up with you next week. All right,
up next, cal Richards, Well, it's in this a joy
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we're together in Sydney. Cal Richards joins me. Now, my
good friend, it's so lovely when I'm here because I
get to sit here and run through the words and
it's so much faster than the delay out of Melbourne. Hey,
I thought, given the events of this week with Pope Francis,
we might look at the word pope. And Sylvia, one
of our viewers, says, yes, it's a good idea, Peter.
What does the word pope mean?
Speaker 7 (47:28):
Where does it come from Okay, it comes from Latin, unsurprisingly,
but from post classical Latin. And it's the post classical
Latin word papa, meaning father. In classical Latin peter means father,
but in post classical Latin papa is father, so basically
means father. It was coined very early in the piece
as a kind of honorary title for a whole lot
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of bishops, starting in Alexandria in North Egypt in about
the third century, but only in the year ten seventy
three was finally given just to the Bishop of Rome
as his title alone. So Christianerdy is two thousand years old,
but the pope's only been called the pope for a
thousand years, and English is just the pope is just
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the Anglicized version of popa.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Ah, all right, let's go some campaign ones. Rick wants
to know about the term pork barreling.
Speaker 7 (48:16):
Means buying votes, and it's an American expression. And the
picture behind it is the eighteen hundreds Backwoods Congressional District
and a congressman who is there at the polling place
handing out salted pork from a barrel. Ah, hard to
say vote for me now. It never happened, but it
was written up in a comic short story by a
man named Edward Everett Hale published in eighteen sixty three,
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and the image captured the imagination of journalists, so they
started using it for any government handouts that were that
were aimed at persuading voters to win their votes.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
And as still current today, Hey Allen wants to know
about hustings?
Speaker 3 (48:51):
Out on the hustings.
Speaker 7 (48:52):
It's a corruption of house theme. The Vikings called any
gathering call together to make a decision a theme, and
in fact the Icelandic Parliament is still called the thing
now when you've got a gathering of a household to
make a decisions. It was a house thing, and house
thing got corrupted in English into husting.
Speaker 3 (49:13):
Have we got time for?
Speaker 6 (49:14):
Whnd?
Speaker 2 (49:14):
Is pretty penny?
Speaker 7 (49:16):
Very quickly goes back a long way seventeen ten, And
it originally meant a particular game for something very profitable,
And it's just the collaboration of the old adverb, old
adjective pretty meaning attractive, and penny when it was actually
worth something, so it represented money in general. So attractive
money is what a pretty penny originally meant. And of
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course now we don't understand it because pennies are now
non existent but not worth much for so long. But
any attractive money is a pretty penny.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
So the pretty in color and bigger the notes are
two PEPs. That works, but it's not the same as
pretty penny.
Speaker 7 (49:51):
Well, I think it's the alliteration. The English language loves alliteration,
so you put in a couple of piece sounds like that.
For some reason, it digs in and just remains part
of the life, which I agree.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
I love a little alliteration as well. And on a metopia.
If that's it for me and Kel, I'll see you
tomorrow at six
Peedo Krandler live on Sky News Australia.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Good evening, welcome to the program. Here's what's coming up
tonight on Kredline. The Coalition today finally launching its defense policy.
Andrew Hasty joins me tonight as to take a closer
look at the detail and get a sense from him
too how the lives are tracking in key wa seats.
More detail too on Labour's preference deal with the Greens,
including the anti Israel candidate in the Prime Minister's own electorate.
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It called the PM out today he ran from questions,
but it can't pretend there's no preference deal when it
involves his very own seat. The teal, backed by big
climate money, caught out not only putting up posters where
she shouldn't, but using foreign workers to do it. And
the stark reality of Australia's crippling rise in power prices.
(00:53):
A small business operator who's had a sixty percent high
in his power bill and says it just can't go
on like this, And how's this for a former military
man Liberal Andrew Hasty who certainly hasn't forgotten how to
hit the target with this comment leveled against Labour's Defense
Minister Richard Miles.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
This is the thing about Richard Males, talks a big game,
talks about the most dangerous strategic circumstances since the end
of the Second World War. To take a lecture from
Richard Miles, I mean it's it's below the belt.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Right on target. But first, Dutton was obviously keen last
night to get back in the action after the campaign
luwell brought on by the death of the Pope. The
debate was the feistiest so far, the opposition leader pushing
back hard against the PM's dishonest claims that the nuclear
policy would cost six hundred billion dollars.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Well, no, on, only invest in it, Phil, that's a
fact illegal, that's point because John Howard sitting.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Place the ban will lift them time and let the
market and David six hundred billion dollar figure comes from
a company that is a donor to the Labor Party,
full of labor staffers. Discredited and it is at odds
with one hundred and twenty billion dollar figure for the
construction of nuclear power site, which is the CSIRO figure.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
And another hit two against the PM's equally dishonest claims
that Medicare bulk billing was under threat from the Coalition will.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Be honest health each and education every year, every increasing
for it. Minister, you couldn't lie straight in bed, Honestly,
this is unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
It can go to abuse.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
Well, it's just the gaseous reality.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
And the cumulative impact of don't finally taking these issues
these lies head on was a front page like this
one for Today's West Australian. Can't lie straight in bed
at read? Those liars are starting to catch up with
a PM. At some point in this campaign he was
going to face hard questions and serious scrutiny. Hopefully that
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started today with journalists tackling him over the decision to
preference in anti Israeli Green in his own seat, especially
after saying he would not do deals with the Greens.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
I will out negotiating with the Greens. That's even further
for you.
Speaker 7 (03:13):
Can you rule out any changes to negative gearing and
capital gains tests?
Speaker 6 (03:18):
How hard is it for the fiftieth.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Time using this negotiators with the Greens in horse former government,
in horse trading devotes and other matters.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Also, at some point the Colition was going to have
to take Labour's lies and pull them apart. Now it
should have happened earlier because Labour's only real strategy here
is a dishonest scare campaign against Peter Dutton. Finally, on
this front, TiO, we've seen some action. This morning. The
Coalition released what it said it was a comprehensive list
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of the PM's lies, seventy six lies in twenty seven days,
including it says fifteen lies in just over an hour
during last night's debate. Now here are just a few.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
On The truth is bulk billing was in free fall
because the incoming Liberal government. The last time they won
fifty billion dollars out of the hospital system.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Fact Peter Dunton was Health minister. Funding increased by sixteen
percent in two years.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
This on education, thirty billion dollars ripped out of education.
That was the twenty fourteen Abbot budget.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
In fact, the previous College government increased funding for public
schools year on year on budget deficits.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
What we had to do when we came into office
was clean up the mess. Turn Liberal Party deficits. Seventy
eight billion dollars was what was predicted in that first year.
We turned that into a twenty two billion dollar surplus.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
In fact, then even the journalist Phil Cooury fact check
the PM on this. The actual deficit was not even
half of that.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
The seventy eight billion you inheritor was actually deficit was
actually a forecast.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
The actual number was thirty one billion, when.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
What it was forecast by the former governor.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
But the actual number was thirty one.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
And then there was this The budget papers in twenty
four day have line items there fifty billion dollars ripped
out of health, thirty billion dollars ripped out of education.
That was the twenty fourteen Abbot budget.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Now the fact is there are no references in the
twenty fourteen budget, not one to cutting health or education spending.
And then this Alban Easy professing that he'll be more
disciplined in how he spends your money.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
And the current deficit, of course is there, but we've
harved it, will continue to work on savings, continue to
produce value. That's because we understand how important it is.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Fact well, there been no saves from this government. Indeed,
labours spending, decisions of costs, the budget body line accumulative
one hundred and forty four billion dollars. Now it was
way past time for the Coalition to take the gloves
off against Anthony Albaneasy because there's been no kid glove
treatment from labor for the opposition. Peter Dutton and Andrew
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face Dye will they've faced? Andrew Hasty faced a feral
media in Perth today announcing the coalition's defense policy to
increase spending to two point five percent of GDP in
the next term of parliament and to three percent over
the decade. The Defense Shadow was asked four times about
comments from twenty eighteen about women in combat, despite making
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it crystal clear that under the Coalition combat places would
be open to anyone who could meet the physical standards.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Do you think women should serve in combat roles in
the adf YEA. The Coalition policies that all combat roles
are open to women. It's been a long standing position.
So we need to be able to win every fight
that we go into and that's why we'll uphold high standards.
Thank you. Have you seen that you can have lower standards?
Speaker 8 (07:01):
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Hardly? It's hardly saying we have one standard.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Sounds like from that answer that you still think women
aren't strong enough.
Speaker 9 (07:11):
That is that right that women aren't strong enough to
deal with that sort of combat you described.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Again, No, I didn't say that at all.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Do you not believe in your own policy, then if
that's your personal belief for the coalition policy, it's allthing different.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
I'm standing right here saying there's one policy. I mean,
this is kind of student politics stuff. He waked it
out of the park.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
And perhaps this is the media's pack instinct to turn
our leader and a team they think is headed for
defeat into a laughing stock. Or it didn't work, and
if the polls are right, the campaign momentum might be
now for Labor. But this is an unusual election and
the politically aware or they are highly motivated. Of course
they're out there, they're prepolling, but get out into the
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real world. Most photos are unenthusiastic and undecided either way,
meaning the vote is soft and that means any one
can get it. Elections in Australia decided seat by seat
in practical terms, are really one hundred and fifty local
contests as well as a national one, where the local
issues and strong local candidates can really make a difference
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regardless of what's happening between the two leaders. Talking to
Coalition people on the ground who are manning pre polls again,
they opened yesterday, so I've spoken to people today and yesterday.
There's continuing optimism for strong results. Some half a million
people voted yesterday. That's two hundred thousand more that on
the first day of pre polling in twenty twenty two,
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and traditionally strong early voting has signaled a likely change
of government.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Now, what do I know.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
From personal experience, especially in the twenty ten campaign, Nothing
succeeds like persistence. Tony Abbott was behind in every poll
that year and every day of every pole throughout the campaign,
but he ended up winning more seats than Labor Again,
that's true for Scott Morrison in twenty nineteen. Last night,
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Darton was sharper.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
We need to make sure that we can get our
country back on track, that we can help manage the economy,
that we can reduce the costs in the economy, that
we can provide a twenty five cent a leader cut
to fuel to help families now until we can sort
out the energy system mess and make sure that we
can bring down the prices of food. We also have
a great plan to help young home buyers get into housing.
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We need to make sure that we can help them
achieve the dream of home ownership, and we also want
to make sure that we can keep our country safe.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
If he can be as relentlessly focused as he was
last night and today for the final ten days of
this campaign, that a lot of pollsters will have egg
on their face now. For me, I just don't want
to believe that Australians will reward the lyar in the lodge.
With three more years. We will see, won't we. Let's
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check in with the two campaigns, starting with the Prime Minister.
Join me now. Political reporter Cam Reddin Well, Cam, I
always like to track in the final fortnite where they're
going and how many seats they're returning back to. I
think it's really instructive about what they're worried they might
lose or what they're hoping they might pick up. The PM, well,
he was back in West Australia and this time he
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went to one of the sites where Peter Dutton's proposed
to build a nuclear reactor. So what can you tell us?
Speaker 10 (10:31):
Yeah, that was the side of Collie Peter. One of
those seven sites that Peter Dutton is earmarked. You can't
help it. There's a bit of showmanship about this visit today,
so that the Albani could rack up and say here
I am somewhere that Peter Dutton hasn't been during the campaign.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
We know that Labor is trying.
Speaker 10 (10:48):
To focus in on that figure from the Smart Energy
Council report.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
They say it would cost six.
Speaker 10 (10:53):
Hundred billion dollars that plan from the coalition. We've seen
a bit more forthright pushback from senior figures within the
opposition to that figure, even in the last couple of days,
noting that that same report said well, actually, in a
best case scenario, if everything went according to plan, it
could come in significantly lower at one hundred and sixteen billion,
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not six hundred billions. So started to see a little
bit more forthright pushback I think on that front.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
Peter, you mentioned Collie.
Speaker 10 (11:21):
Well, that's where we've been in the seat of O'Connor
southwest WA. We're just crossing the border now into the
seat of Canning, which yes is held by the shadow
Defense Minister. The margin there though, very narrow, so we're
just getting there now.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
We'll see if we stop.
Speaker 10 (11:33):
The one thing you mentioned there too in pre Pole,
which is really interesting five hundred thousand people voting yesterday.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
I can tell you that just later.
Speaker 10 (11:40):
This afternoon the AEC ticked over more than one million
people pre polling in the first forty eight hours.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
That blows every record out of proportion.
Speaker 10 (11:50):
How much do we read into that? What we've had easter,
We've got Anzac Day tomorrow, So it's a bit of.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
An abridged week if you like. For pre pole.
Speaker 10 (11:57):
They think that there might be just some people cramming
five days of voting into three, if you like.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
So we'll see if we.
Speaker 10 (12:02):
Can read anything into that if it drops off over
coming days. But back on the road in Wa, we
know the labour brand is strong here and they think
this will be key holding seats in particular around the
city to securing a second term in government.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, certainly the state labor brand is strong. I'm less
convinced about federal labor. We'll leave it there, Thanks Cam.
Now to Peter Dutton's campaign. It wrapped up in Perth.
He's currently on his way back, I presume me, but
we don't really know, do we. Reuben Spargo filed this report.
Speaker 11 (12:30):
Peter Dutton is in Perth selling his defense spending promise.
The longer waited policy is opening up a new front
in this election campaign. The Trump administration is calling for
allies to spend three percent of GDP on defense. The
opposition leader claims he will meet the target within a decade,
but it has nothing to do with the United States.
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Over the next five years, the Coalition will spend twenty
one billion dollars more than labor. Under Anthony Alberzi, the
defense budget is forecast to hit two point three to
three percent of GDP by twenty thirty three thirty four.
Labour's on the attack asking how the Coalition will pay
for its increase. Are you going to make any savings
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to pay for this announcement?
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Will find savings, as we've belend clear as how as
John Howard did in ninety six, where Labor has invested
in the programs where they're that money's not being spend efficiently,
and we've given guarantees in relation to health and education
and other areas of Commonwealth expenditure. But the fact is
that Labour always wastes money. This is a biggest spending
government for forty years. They spend money. That's what drives
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up interest rates.
Speaker 11 (13:36):
The Coalition maintains it will release its costings in the
lead up to the election. Visiting this defense industry manufacturer
in the Labor held seat of Swan. The opposition is
promoting more than a business boost. Peter Dunston is seeking
to be tough on national security. He needs this policy
to land with voters. With time quickly running.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Out, I was loved tonight and I've actually got my
guests with me. I'm in Sydney and I'm joined here
in the studio by senior reporter Caroen the Marcus and
senior fellow at the Mensies Research Center, Nick Cata. Well,
welcome to you both. Hey, the lies are starting to
catch up with Labor here. Last night it was this
from the opposition leader.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
You'll been honest.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Fifty health each and B and education every year. Epulation
is increasing for it.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Minister, you couldn't slice straight in bed. Honestly, this is unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
It can go to abuse. Well, it's just the gashous reality.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
And now there's admission finally from the Health Minster Mark
Butler today that for many people you know this better
than me, your Medicare card is not enough by itself
to pay to see the doctor.
Speaker 12 (14:41):
There will be Australians who will continue to be charged
to gap fee, but we think we can get to
ninety percent for all Australians under these arrangements.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Well, Akti, I don't think I have been bulk builled
for a GP visit since I was a UNI student
and that is a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Why this sham medi scare scam to start unraveling, hasn't it, Peter?
I mean, the fact is that billing episodes are down
by twelve percent under this government. There's been a dramatic
fall since over the last three years in at the
lowest level they've been at for twenty years. And the
fourteen million extra bulk billing sessions that the Prime Minister
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promises that won't even barely take them up to where
they were when they came into office, So that this
is absolute scare. It's a shocker and it's just amazing
to me it's taken so long to come out.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Do you think it feels like the coalition is actually
taking labor head on now? I know we've got ten
days to go and someone say it's too late, but
you know, finally there's some fighting the.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Dog absolutely and we should look at these urgent care clinics.
I mean the story on the Sky News website that
the urgent care clinics that they promised, only half of
them were opened the hours they said they would be.
The fundamental problem is a lack of doctors. It's not
throwing more money into medicare, particularly more money to try
and recruit more doctors, because that's what will bring the
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price about building down.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Right, Let's go that preference scanner, because the PM said
uphill and down, David he will not do a deal
with the Greens, but he has already and it even
includes his own seat of Grainler, so he can't say
he's not doing one. It's in his seat where he's
giving his top preference to an Israel hating radical who's
running for the Greens. His name is Hannah Thomas. The
PM was asked about this this morning and decided it
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was the Australian newspapers for fault for publishing the information.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Why is the Australian determined to give the Greens such profile.
It's rather strange. I've got to say I wouldn't have
been able to tell you if you'd have asked me
who the candidate was. Last Timmern in this seat. I
won on primaries. I won on primaries, That's why the
system works. I got more than fifty percent of the vote.
I look forward to people voting number one for me
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and then filling in all the numbers just as they
did to make sure it's a formal vote. And I
don't intend to promote the name or the candidate of
the Greene Party candidate, and I'm surprised that the Australia
determined to promote them.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Mock in souscience. I'd say that because you know, I
don't know the name, I don't care who they are,
but it's so good I don't care enough. I'm going
to give them my number two preferences.
Speaker 13 (17:25):
It is literally on his how to vote cards, so
he cannot use that excuse. But it is classic Albanesi
to deflect like that and somehow put the blame onto
a reporter asking the question like it's their fault that
he's found himself in a situation where he's even been
questioned about it. I'm sorry, but this is a person
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who not only apparently represents everything that Alberanzi has been
talking about the extremist Greens for the past year or two,
but also stood at an anti Israel protest holding an
f Labor sign with fake bloe on it, and he
is who, this is, who he is directing voters to
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put second. It is absolutely appalling. So he's already done
this deal clearly.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
And it's not just him, it's.
Speaker 13 (18:11):
The entire Labor Party save Josh Burns, who's running on
an open.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
One hundred and fifty exactly.
Speaker 13 (18:19):
And what I was particularly disappointed in seeing. I mean,
I'm not shocked, but I'm disappointed that Mark Dreyfus, most
senior Jewish politician, our attorney general, has preferenced a green
as well as the second pick. And I've previously called
him on air, I've used the term Kappo. Has struck
me because it reminds me of the Jewish inmates and
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concentration camps who would collaborate with the Nazis and brutalize
their fellow Jews in order to survive. Now I'm not
saying literally he's collaborating with Nazis here, but he is
trying for political survival by picking something that is a
betrayal to his own community. So look, it's shocking, but
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not shocking in the same sense. And It just shows
that he Albanez, he cannot be trusted, nor can his
entire government when it comes to those promises that he's
not going to negotiate with the Greens because as you say,
this is a deal, this is a preference deal to
trade preferences. And I might also add Peter that the
Greens candidate did not even give him the same benefit.
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She didn't put him second. She's preferenced and independent above
ALBANIZI well.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I'll tell you what I told you, and I've said
this again. You know Adam vand if he gets there
as co prime Minister will have the whipan the International
Monetary Fund. The IMF today is you should have start
warning for whomever forms government that our economy is headed
for a sharp downturn. The IMFs downgraded our GDP growth projections.
These are the government's projections to one point six percent,
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down from two point one percent. That's what they just
put out six months ago, while also projecting that inflation
will rise above budget expectations. Inflation's an interesting one because
I think everyone's out there saying that we're going to
get this almost bankable cut in official rates, so down
we'll go mortgages. Not so if inflation returns.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
No, well, we can't get inflation down until we reduce
government spending, which is locked in at around twenty seven
percent of GDP, two percent higher or more than two
percent higher than it was before the pandemic. So as
long as we are spending money, inflation pressure will be
there on inflation and this is hurting families, isn't it interesting?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Peter?
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Now we have defense on the agenda finally in this campaign,
as you pointed out earlier in the show, and now
at last we have the economy and fiscal management on
the agenda thanks to the IMF, and let's hope we
have a serious discussion on this because clearly for the
future of the country those two issues are crucial, and
yet we haven't been talking about them so far in
this campaign.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Let's go back to the PM and his extolling of
his Catholic faith this week. He's got to be pretty
embarrassed today then by his Labour canon. The Queensland seat
of Flynn Helen Maddel, who in now deleted tweets from
twenty twenty accused of late Pope Pope Francis, are providing
ongoing support This is her quote for Pedo's Here was
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a PM today when asked about this.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
She made a mistake that shouldn't have happened. And people,
if they go back through their history in social media,
I'm sure there's lots of people have made things they regret.
She has said she regrets it, and that's entirely appropriate.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I've said this before, Caroline, and it makes I guess
your point there about Jewish labor. MP's powerful as well.
Religion for the hard left is a venia. It gets
dragged out in election campaigns, the Prime ministers using it.
Now others are using it. But these guys sneer at
people of faith, and when in government, all the things
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they promised, like religious freedom protections, they never eventuate.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (21:55):
Absolutely, And I think it's pretty rich for Alberan Easy
to be coming out and being and defending this candidate.
You know, his own party have attacked Andrew Hasty, who
I know is coming up on the program over past
comments he's made, so that there seems to be a
double standard. Don't talk about past comments when it comes to.
Speaker 12 (22:17):
Our own people.
Speaker 13 (22:18):
But it's fine, it's open slab when it comes to
the other side.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
But on your point.
Speaker 13 (22:23):
About their real religious convictions, their personal convictions. I mean,
you only have to look at Anthony Alberanize's past comments
that he's made. He called Tony Abbott a mad monk.
As I'm sure you remember, he's criticized Scott Morrison for
mixing church and state. He does seem to have a
deeply held contempt almost for people that have these this
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deep religious faith. So I think it's very difficult to
see what he's saying, and how what he's said since
the Pope's death and take it seriously or treat it
with that it's authentic.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Just quickly. Early voting, I mean it's at record levels today.
The numbers are coming in from the AEC. In the past,
it's always been a bit of a point that when
people come in hard and early, the government's on the nose, right,
the government's on its way out the back door. Do
you read anything into this rise in prepoles today.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I think it's a bad thing that we've got so
much prepolling, Peter, But I'm not convinced that this is
The people who are voting are the undecided voters. It
seems to me that the voters that are not sure
that the undecided will wait till the last minute. The
ones people who have been going into the last couple
of days clearly of people that knew who they were
going to vote for. So I don't think we can
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read too much of the into the result from this,
except to say that there is a large number of
undecided voters, a big soft vote for labor, and that
could still come the Coalition's way, just.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Quickly, Caroline Bradfield, you've been out there talking to the
teals and just skullduggery going on.
Speaker 13 (23:56):
Well, look the candidate that Nicolae Buller. She's had a
very interesting few weeks. First there was the hairdresser scandal,
where it emerged that she'd been banned from her local
hairdresser after she made inappropriate sexual comments to a nineteen
year old apprentice.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
And then I.
Speaker 13 (24:11):
Revealed yesterday that she had made these anti Semitic comments
on her social media page. She's blamed those comments on
a volunteer. And then also this issue about power poles
that she's been plagued with too. Her core flutes have
been all over the Pacific Highway major highway here in
Sydney on power poles. Osgrid's issued her a warning, but
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she's defended it, saying she's received legal advice, saying that
that's okay to do, and everyone else starts down, she
won't take them down. She's holding steadfast. It'll be interesting
to see what Osgrid did it she so she defended
those decisions, but she was pretty apologetic about some of
the other stuff. This is what she had to say
about those antisminic posts.
Speaker 9 (24:56):
It was an absolutely awful, disgraceful any Semitic post and
it was done by a volunteer. I was not my views,
and I apologized. I think political leaders right across the
spectrum have a responsibility to call out and stand up
against anti Semitism, and that's exactly what I will do
if I have the privilege of being elected.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Interesting, I've got some things to tell you tomorrow either
about her history as well. Let's move on now, Thank
you both for your time to the jaw dropping reality
for businesses around Australia getting hammered by crippling power bills.
Let's turn to just one example. You'll find the town
of Dorigo, about half an hour west of Cross Harbor.
It's a region that punches above its weight in terms
of tourism thanks to the proximity it has to a
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national park and the strength of the beef industry and
local publican too. The Heritage Hotel, which is at the
heart of the Dorigo community but for how long, worries
its owners. Here's why. Electric costs for the hotel are
through the roof have nearly sixty percent under labor from
just thirty seven thousand a year ago to more than
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sixty thousand dollars, and it is rising. Dorigo is located
in the seat of Kauper, which is on the threat
from a Teal independent and if the last three years
have proved anything, it's the climate push from Teals and
others from the left that's driving up power prices as
more and more renewables are forced into the system. Well
enough's enough, says the owner of the pub, Peter Ferros.
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Peter Ferross joins me. Now, Peter, thank you for your time.
I know everyone in a small business is busy, but
you raise this with me on email, and I wanted
to talk to real people on the show. Given how
hard these power prices are hitting you in your community.
What's it been like opening up these bills? It must
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be a real sense of dread for you.
Speaker 14 (26:46):
It is, and it is particularly disturbing that we have
the Prime Minister and the Labor Party and the two
saying that renewables are the cheapest form of energy when
the bills go up by this amount. It's fifty nine
per peter over the last three years, so that's twenty
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thousand dollars and the economy in Dorigo is not going up,
and that's just coming straight off the bottom line.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yeah, I was going to ask you that because I mean,
if you're a really big company, you possibly pass that
through down your supply chain. But if you're in the
business of pouring beer, you can't put sixty percent on
the price of a schooner, but you need to pay
the power bill to keep the beer coal. I mean,
what do you do? How do you cut your cloth here?
Speaker 14 (27:38):
Well, you don't. You just got to take the less profit, Peter.
There's no solution to it. We have very busy bistro
in Dorigo. There's one best diying north coast for the
last seven years, and we just can't put up the
meal prices because there's an amount to people can afford
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to pay. And yet that's a backbone of the business.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I've been to Dorigo. I can concur with the awardor
pub has won. But you've had an electrical engineer I understand,
to analyze the energy billet or the usage at your hotel.
Tell us about that.
Speaker 14 (28:18):
Yes, well, he's analyzed the usage of all the electrical
use in the hotel. He's found that the baseline usage
is in the cool rooms, the freezer room, and the fridges,
and that goes on all day, twenty four hours a day,
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and then we have a peak in the morning where
people get up and have breakfast, and then we have
a busier people at night when people come to the bistro. Now,
none of those are covered by solar throughout the day.
So we're looking at a quote for a solar at
one hundred and twenty five that would have to be
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backed up because we need it at night of another
one hundred and fifty thousand in batteries. That's two hundred
and seventy five thousand dollars to get a renewable solution
for a hotel in a small country town. That's a
level of investment. It's just not viable.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Just before we go, Peter, if you could have your say.
You know, if the Prime Minister or god forbid, Chris
Bowen was to walk in the apartment, sit up at
the bar, what would you say.
Speaker 14 (29:32):
To them we need coal? There?
Speaker 2 (29:37):
You go pretty blind assessment there, Peter Ferriss, all the
very best, all the very best. I'll love it there.
If you can support his pav or any pub around
the country, they're doing it tough in country towns. Please
I say that as someone from the Bush, please support
them all. Right after break, Finally we're a real choice
when it comes to defense this election. I'm going to
speak to Shadow Minister Andrew Hasty about today's beginning but
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also how the lives faring in Wa. The PM's back
there again today, I think that's pretty telling. Plus a
growing apathy of young Australians when it comes to ANZAC
day and what it says too about who'll defend Australia
if it's ever needed. Welcome Back's still to come. The
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staggering amount of tax you paid last financial years, both
state and federal governments become addicted to other people's money.
But first, today the Coalition unveiled it's long away to
defense funding plan, pledging to boost spending by twenty one
billion dollars over the next five years. This would see
spending on defense rise by the Coalition to two point
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five percent of GDP within that period and reach three
percent of GDP within a decade. Joining me now to
discuss this and more, Shadow Defense Minister, and you're hasty,
and you're welcome to the program. Look, it's not just
the quantum you spend. You know that, I know that,
But where you spend it, how you spend it. Tell
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me how your plan's different from what Labour says we need.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Good evening, Peter, Well, it's good question. Labor has run
down defense over the last three years. There's been no
money and they've kept the spend at two percent of GDP.
It's been static for the last three years. And the
reality is that UCAS is a big imposition on the
defense budget. So we've got to grow the defense budget
or we'll keep cannibalizing capabilities in Army, Navy, and Air Force,
(31:33):
which is what's happening right now under Labor. In fact,
we've seen eighty billion dollars worth of cuts, delays, and
reprioritizations in defense under Richard Miles and Anthony alban easy.
So we are investing in defense, and the question is where, well,
aucus is one thing we're going to get Orcus moving,
it's it's been delayed under labor. We're going to reinstate
(31:54):
the fourth squadron of F thirty five Joint Strike fighters.
We're going to invest in drone and counter drone techtechnology,
and we're going to rebuild army and navy and particularly
the sustainment budgets. One of the first things that always
gets cut is the sustainment budget, and which means our
pilots don't get enough flying hours, our sailors don't get
enough sea time, and our troops don't get to train
(32:16):
with live ammunition. So these are the things that we're
going to reinstate with our spend.
Speaker 8 (32:20):
I know when.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Australians look at you, they feel confident that if the
worst came to the worst, that we really were in
a skirmish or something worse on our horizon, that you
and the job would do your best to keep Australia safe.
A lot of your supporters, though, I have to say, Perturb,
that it's taken the Coalition a long time to get
this policy out. What would you say to that.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Well, Peter address this today. Peter doesn't address this today.
Peter is prudent with the way he spends money. He's
run businesses throughout his previous career and he's making sure
that we have the money to do this. So that's
why we've committed this at this point in time, and
it's a safe investment, and that's the important thing. We're
(33:06):
not going to pull money out, We're not going to
make ridiculous policy on the run. We're actually going to
think this through and that's what Peter Dutton and the
team have done. So this is surety over the next
five years two point five percent of GDP in five years.
We're going to get it up to three percent in
ten years, and of course labor are shooting for two
point three to three in ten years, so we need
(33:28):
this money. It's been through a process, is the point
I'd make, And of.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Course it's key to negotiating with the United States because
it's saying allies around the world, we will stand with you,
but you've got to lift your game and start to
help yourself. And I think that's one of the flaws
for the government should it ever go back to Donald
Trump and try and negotiate a better deal on tariffs.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
That's right. We've got to demonstrate to the Americans as
part of the AUCUST deal, that we're going to be
sovereign ready by twenty thirty. In order to be sovereign ready,
we've got to in hma Sterling here in Perth. We've
got to uplift it from a conventional to a nuclear base.
We've got to build a supply chain. We've got to
invest in our education sector. We've got to identify the
tradesmen who are going to do the nuclear welding and
(34:11):
all the sorts of maintenance that is required of our submarines.
We've got to do that by twenty thirty, and labor
is not spending enough money to get that done. And
so we're going to invest in WA. We're going to
invest in Aucust, which is really important, and that will
demonstrate to whoever's president in twenty thirty that we are
ready to go to receive our Virginia Class submarines.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Hey, I want to pick up some comments today pretty
feral press conference today, when you got into some previous
things you've said about women and men in combat zones.
It's not just women, it's women and men. But I'll
play the comments now for my viewers.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
When I think about some of the things I had
to do in a close combat unit up at Bindoon
not far from here, life fire drills where you practice
a man down very anaerobic, very aerobically intensitive. You need
fine motor skills you're firing live rounds. I remember picking
up an eighty five kilo mate with my pack and
webbing and my leg's buckling. Now I did that in training,
(35:10):
but I work with men who did that under fire
in combat.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Yeah, I make the point. I think I made it
at the time at my show when I went to
Afghanistan and met sas soldiers like you. On the ground,
I picked up someone's pack. I could barely lift the pack,
let alone be able to lift someone if I had
to out of trouble on a battlefield. Now, if I
could do it, and I'm six foot two, if I
could do it, I'd argue for the job. But if
(35:36):
I can't do it, it's about my physical ability, Andrew. It's
got nothing to do with my gender. I think it's
hard for anyone listening to you today to disagree with
the point you're making.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
That's right, which is why we insist on one standard
for our combat units, whether it's to be a fighter
pilot or a member of the second Commando Regiment or
the sas, whatever it might be, one standard, meet the
standard you're in.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Yeah, I commend you on how you handle that today. Hey,
what's going on with Russia Indonesia and the ducks and drakes.
The government's play by refusing to give you as they
should under the Caretaker conventions, are proper defense briefing.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Well, it's a massive report that apparently the Russians have
approached Indonesia to put an airhead to our north in
Indonesian territory. Now we don't know how true that report is,
but we deserve a brief because it's a very significant
move by Russia, a continental power all the way up
(36:37):
in Europe, to then start venturing down into the Indo
Pacific as far south as Indonesia. So we should be
getting a brief, and even if it's a secure brief,
we should be brought in. And Labor don't want the scrutiny.
It looks like they've been caught on the run and
they don't want to make this an election issue because
they're weak on national security. That's the point about Anthony Albanezi.
For the last three years, he's demonstrated consistent, persistent weakness
(37:00):
in the face of strategic challenges in our region.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Just on Anazac Day. Of course, it's Friday. Survey out
today that says less than one in four younger Australians
so thirteen to twenty eight years, feels a strong connection
to Anzac Day. Only sixteen percent of gen z say
they defend the nation if they had to. I've always
said Andrew first, they're going to come for Australia Day,
this is the hard left. Then they'll go after Anzac Day.
(37:25):
We've got a PM in this country who seems ashamed
of our flag. So how do you turn this around?
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Well, I think that young Australians just want to be challenged.
No one's actually asked them to step up, no one's
actually asked them to serve will be part of our
Anzak tradition. Of course, there's issues in our education system
with a syllabus that runs down a lot of our history,
the good parts of it. We've got to tell all
sides of history. But even the good parts of our
history are being run down by some areas of the
(37:55):
education sector. But I think the reality is we've seen
this sorry before. We saw it in the UK. In fact,
in nineteen thirty three at the Oxford Union where they
had a debate that people would no longer fight for
King and country, and the debate was one with a
big majority young Britons at the time voted never to
(38:16):
defend king and country. Well, the Second World War broke
out in nineteen thirty and in nineteen forty it was
young Britons who defended the UK from German invasion at
the cost of many lives. So I have every confidence
that if young Australians were asked to step up, they
would meet the challenge. And it's finding those young Australians
now and getting them into uniform and serving our country.
That's what I'm going to do as Minister for Defense.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Look, we're always out of time, But the PM's going
to wa a lot. That says to me maybe he
thinks he's in trouble. How's a campaign going on the ground.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Look, we're working really hard. I'm in the South metropolitan area.
I know young Norberger up in Pierce is working hard.
Matt Moran and the seat of bullwinkled, Tom White in Curtain,
Howard Ong in Tangney, our key seats, that's what we're
focused on. To my south, Ben's small in Forest. These
people are working very, very hard for the Liberal Party
and you know what, we're starting to see the needle turn.
(39:10):
We're starting to see people saying, you know what, this
prime minister, he's weak, he's woke, and he's sending us
broke as Advance is making very clear. And it's no
surprise that he was in college today. He keeps name
checking me in his press conferences. I'm clearly living rent
free in his head. And he's even passing through Canning
in the next half hour to visit one of my prepoles.
(39:31):
So he's more than welcome to come because this is
where labor prime ministers come to lose elections.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Stay in the media. Andrew Hasty, we need more of
you on the national campaign, not less of you. Thanks
for joining me tonight, all right after break. The regular
amount of tax you are paying, it's never been this
high in Australian history. Welcome back your first The government's
(40:00):
tax take is staggering. News today that Australian has paid
eight hundred and two billion dollars in taxes last financial year,
with the ableed Australian taxpayer contributing nearly thirty thousand dollars
each first of income tax made up more than half
that share, its biggest percentage in twenty five years, raising
serious concerns about fairness, competitiveness and economic pressure on working families.
(40:23):
And when we talk about tax I'm always reminded of this.
Speaker 8 (40:27):
Now. Of course I am minimizing my tax and if
anybody in this country doesn't minimize their actually want.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Their head droom.
Speaker 8 (40:34):
Because I at a government, I can tell you you're
not spending it that well, that we should be donating extra.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Joining me now, my Paneltary Barnes from the Spectator, a
National Party senator Mat Canaman. Well, Matt, I tell you
what Kerry Packer. He was on the money there and
it's only got worse.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Well, that's right, Peter.
Speaker 15 (40:55):
The other side of what Kerry was saying is the spending,
which I'll get to, which is not all ways well done.
But on these statistics about the taxing, the important thing
for people to realize here is that those taxes have
gone up at a federal level by three thousand dollars
a year per person since Anthony Albanzi was elected. So
not only your power bills up by one thousand dollars.
(41:15):
If you're an average homeowner in this country with an
average mortgage, your home repayments have gone up by about
twelve thousand dollars a year. Your grocery bills have gone
up by about three thousand dollars a year. And then
on top of that you get a tax bill that's
gone up three thousand dollars a year as well. No
wonder when I've been at the booths these last two days,
verse two days of voting, seeing so many people struggling
at the moment under this Albanesi government. And then you
(41:38):
come to the spending side here as well. That's even
the scarier thing. This government has increased spending massively. We're
now spending. Get this, Peter. Before COVID, your federal government
spent four hundred and seventy eight billion.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Dollars a year of your money.
Speaker 15 (41:52):
Now that sits after three years of labor at seven
hundred and seventy seven billion, it's three hundred billion dollars more.
We've got rid of job Keeper, We've got rid of
all those COVID relief programs. Yet we're now spending three
hundred billion dollars a year more. They are only ten
million households in this country. That's thirty thousand dollars a
year extra of spending. And that's just that extra spending
is going to have to be future taxes unless we
(42:13):
get that under control.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
And no one says they're better off. They're not better
off for it, so it's not like it's good money
well spent. Hey, Terry, I want to get your view
on this, given your history in the in the health
portfolio area. This is the PM's Medicare stunt. It keeps
pulling out that green card. Now, doctors groups have called
him out on this. They said it is not right
to say that's all you need to see a GP.
(42:37):
But he's putting stuff into letterboxes. He's got flyers going
out everywhere. The ground game on Medicare, from what I'm seeing,
is extraordinary. If labor survive, it'll be because of these lies.
Speaker 16 (42:53):
We've been here before too, haven't we. Peter MIDI scare
Mark three or four. But look, when it comes to
what the Labor Party is proposing on bulk billing, I'm
not in me too, on it by any means, I
don't think it will work. Frankly, I don't think it
will work. And more than the point, I think good
on Shadow Minister and Rustin calling out to Mark Butler
(43:15):
today the Minister in terms of Anthony Alberonizi's claims that
everybody is going to be covered by bulk billing, I mean,
mister Butler made it clear that that is not the case.
But really in terms of what they're proposing, I just
can't see it working. It might marginally improve bulk building
in lower socioeconomic areas, but in middle Australia no, because
(43:35):
doctors will charge what they think they can afford or
what can get. And the reality is it might improve
bulk billing in broad meadows, but it won't in places
like bright.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Now more sort of shine coming off the teals. Voters
are looking at their record. We know that's true and
how often they vote across the board with the Greens.
But also now donations in so called transparency a Legraspender Well,
she says she wants reform, she's all about integrity, but
just last month she received a fifty thousand dollars donation
(44:05):
where we know she did she put it up on
her website, but then she just listed it as anonymous.
We also know from a recent media report that Climate
two hundred Simon Holmes a court well, he's such a
drag now on the Teal vote that many of these
women are trying to distance themselves from him. Are you
surprised ready?
Speaker 3 (44:24):
This not at all, Peter.
Speaker 15 (44:29):
I mean, the Teals have always sought to apply standards
to others which they don't seem to want to apply
to themselves, and so they've got some standards they're just
called double standards unfortunately for the Teals. And look, this
stick sort of worked perhaps a few years ago, when
they could act wholly than now and claim that they
(44:50):
would be better than what they perceived to be going
on in politics.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
They promised a new politics.
Speaker 15 (44:55):
There's anything really changed with them, apart from the level
of hypocrisy in Canberra growing. And so I think people
are waking up to that that the Teals are actually,
perhaps even worse on transparency than normal political parties. We've
seen this absurd situation where apparently some of the Teals
have been paying influences online to say nice things about them,
(45:16):
but are refusing disclose who they've paid. It's all a
bit schoolyard and gossipy. Soon we get in the back
of these people, I think the better our parliament will be.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Terry just quickly the front page of the Herald sign
in Victoria. This is a story that has not gone away.
And more bad news of course for Daniel Andrews, the
young man that was mowed down on a bike in
a car driven by mister or missus. We're told it
was missus Andrews on a bike in twenty twenty ten.
(45:45):
I think it might have been. He has got now
a secret cash deal to prevent what would have been
an explosive Supreme Court case. We're told the family is
still going to go to court. They still are pursuing
a defamation case. This little boy, he's my boy now,
but he only lost his life at the time. This
is something that is continuing, as I say to dog
(46:07):
the former premier.
Speaker 16 (46:10):
Oh absolutely, Peter, and it's dogging the Labor party as
well in Victoria. But the reality is that that legal
case you're talking about, the settlement was actually with the
boys and his family's lawyers. It wasn't with the Daniel
Andrews or his wife Catherine, and certainly we're talking about
somebody's reputation here, if their reputation has been slanted in
(46:33):
the way that it has been, by the way this
has been dragged through the media and dragged through the courts,
I think he's got to go all the way. He
has to defend it, and if he wants to take
it to court and super defamation, good luck to him.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
We'll say that'll be interesting because of course with defamation
comes discovery, and that's accessing a whole lot of records.
I suspect the former premier does not want to see daylight.
Thank you, gentlemen. Catch up with you next week. All right,
up next, cal Richards, Well, it's in this a joy
(47:08):
we're together in Sydney. Cal Richards joins me. Now, my
good friend, it's so lovely when I'm here because I
get to sit here and run through the words and
it's so much faster than the delay out of Melbourne. Hey,
I thought, given the events of this week with Pope Francis,
we might look at the word pope. And Sylvia, one
of our viewers, says, yes, it's a good idea, Peter.
What does the word pope mean?
Speaker 7 (47:28):
Where does it come from Okay, it comes from Latin, unsurprisingly,
but from post classical Latin. And it's the post classical
Latin word papa, meaning father. In classical Latin peter means father,
but in post classical Latin papa is father, so basically
means father. It was coined very early in the piece
as a kind of honorary title for a whole lot
(47:49):
of bishops, starting in Alexandria in North Egypt in about
the third century, but only in the year ten seventy
three was finally given just to the Bishop of Rome
as his title alone. So Christianerdy is two thousand years old,
but the pope's only been called the pope for a
thousand years, and English is just the pope is just
(48:09):
the Anglicized version of popa.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Ah, all right, let's go some campaign ones. Rick wants
to know about the term pork barreling.
Speaker 7 (48:16):
Means buying votes, and it's an American expression. And the
picture behind it is the eighteen hundreds Backwoods Congressional District
and a congressman who is there at the polling place
handing out salted pork from a barrel. Ah, hard to
say vote for me now. It never happened, but it
was written up in a comic short story by a
man named Edward Everett Hale published in eighteen sixty three,
(48:37):
and the image captured the imagination of journalists, so they
started using it for any government handouts that were that
were aimed at persuading voters to win their votes.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
And as still current today, Hey Allen wants to know
about hustings?
Speaker 3 (48:51):
Out on the hustings.
Speaker 7 (48:52):
It's a corruption of house theme. The Vikings called any
gathering call together to make a decision a theme, and
in fact the Icelandic Parliament is still called the thing
now when you've got a gathering of a household to
make a decisions. It was a house thing, and house
thing got corrupted in English into husting.
Speaker 3 (49:13):
Have we got time for?
Speaker 6 (49:14):
Whnd?
Speaker 2 (49:14):
Is pretty penny?
Speaker 7 (49:16):
Very quickly goes back a long way seventeen ten, And
it originally meant a particular game for something very profitable,
And it's just the collaboration of the old adverb, old
adjective pretty meaning attractive, and penny when it was actually
worth something, so it represented money in general. So attractive
money is what a pretty penny originally meant. And of
(49:37):
course now we don't understand it because pennies are now
non existent but not worth much for so long. But
any attractive money is a pretty penny.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
So the pretty in color and bigger the notes are
two PEPs. That works, but it's not the same as
pretty penny.
Speaker 7 (49:51):
Well, I think it's the alliteration. The English language loves alliteration,
so you put in a couple of piece sounds like that.
For some reason, it digs in and just remains part
of the life, which I agree.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
I love a little alliteration as well. And on a metopia.
If that's it for me and Kel, I'll see you
tomorrow at six
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