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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Peter Kredlin live on Sky News Australia.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Good evening, busy show for you tonight. He's what's coming
up on Credline labor at pains to explain away a
dire credit warnings from SNP as we learn the only
way they're going to be able to fund their election
largess is via a new seven billion dollar a year
tax on Matti reads, Yes you heard that right, seven
billion a year. More on this coming out your favorite sator,
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Senator just in an average Proprice joins me on the
show tonight. It's former PM Tony Abbott goes public and
says that being welcome to our country every time a
plane lands in Australia is grating. Plus more on the
campaign Karen Manique Ryan, she's become a poster girl for
what not to do in an election campaign. Even as
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the fall that from the Beijing links of the volunteers
just adds to her woes, She's still blaming everyone else.
So I'll show you that in a moment. And nuclear
agitators tried to derail the opposition leader's campaign today, but
name wasn't having a bar of it.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
They were Greens and tailed supporters dressed up and it
was a stunt, so this made no difference to me.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
But first you've got to admire Peter Dutton's calmness under fire,
because he's not just fighting an election campaign against Labor,
he's fighting against the Greens, the Unions and now the
Teals as well. But more than that. In this election
campaign like no other, the opposition leader has also faced
a barrage of loaded questions almost every day from a
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media pack. There's always trying to prove he's a fool
or a knave. Basically every question at every Darton media
conference is either an implicit criticism or an open challenge.
Here's just some from yesterday.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
The Liberal candidate for Fowler has had to apologize or
social media pos where he repeatedly is derogatory terms to
refer to Indigenous Australians. Is this the standard you will
accept for Liberal candidates.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
At this point?
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Do you conceive that it's now mathematically impossible for you
to reach your migration cuts? Why is Coalition disrespecting voters
by not releasing the costings on the eve of the election.
Speaker 6 (02:15):
Why didn't you disclose that you were the beneficiary of
a family trust in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
So aren't you being tricky with the truth not to
answer today? Aren't you being tricky with your own truth
at the moment?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Why you?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I mean, give me a break today? More of the
same now.
Speaker 7 (02:32):
John Howard made a concerted decision to preference one nation last.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Why are you preferencing one nation second? In the majority
of electrics across the country.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
How is it that the Liberal Party has recruited so
many members of a religious section for don't vault to
hand out for the bad we've been skipped over.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
We're just giving Well, when.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
You've called some journalist activists, what questions have you taken?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Issue a bief?
Speaker 8 (02:55):
And that isn't Blaming the media is a convenient excuse
at this point of the campaign.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I mean, God of the days when prescary journals came
up with a question out of their own head. You're
not to say that nearly all of them, Well, they
were reading questions off their phone. Presumably that's the questions
that have been supplied to them by Labour's dirt unit. Now,
I'm not against tough questioning. Of course our leader should
be and would be leaders too held to account by
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a media that's supposed to speak truth to power. It's
just that there we've got a guy in power as
opposed to a guy out of power who's getting a
much softer sort of scratcher belly sort of ride. Now,
maybe they're all auditioning for a job in Albanese's office,
given he's got a history of hiring press gallery journalists
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into his team, like the Guardians Catherine Murphy. Who knows.
But his questioning, Albanese's questioning compared to that of Dutton
is very different, all pretty respectful, even deferential, ask me questions.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
He says that Labor has run a campaign to suggest
that he's in trouble in Dixon, and he's not in
trouble in Dixon at all. Can I ask you, are
you going to Dixon today?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
One and two?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
What do you say about his accusation? Is he in trouble?
Might Labor win his seat?
Speaker 9 (04:24):
About the rise of right wing minor parties?
Speaker 6 (04:26):
And do you think that Pintertton's recent comments in recent
days have been an attempt to try stoke.
Speaker 10 (04:33):
Their voters over towards the liberal Abram's tanks that your
government fledged to Ukraine more than six months ago are
still here in Australia. Is the United States delaying or
blocking the transfer of these tanks?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I mean every one of those questions without fail. We're
a tee up free kick to the Prime Minister. And
yet if any of those journalists actually switch their brains
on and not just put their mouths into gear and
do a bit more than scroll through their iPhones, there
is so much that the Prime Minister should be grilled on.
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On why he pretended there had been no approach from
Russia to Indonesia to fly bombers out of a base
in West Papua when he knew we know that now
from leaked reports that there hadn't been. On why he's
routinely claiming that Labour turned a seventy eight billion dollar
deficit into two surpluses when and actually he inherited a
thirty one billion dollar deficit and the subsequent surpluses were
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entirely the result of a lucky commodity price boom. And
credit here to old school journalist Phil Couri who picked
him up on this, but still Albanez it keeps repeating
the lie.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Here's Phil Coury, you mentioned your two surpluses tonight, and
if we can just take issue the seventy eight billion
you inherited was actually deficit was actually a forecast.
Speaker 11 (05:51):
The actual number was thirty one billion.
Speaker 12 (05:53):
What it was forecast by the for mcguture.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
But the actual number was thirty one picked up on it.
But here is again today the Prime Minister repeating that claim.
Speaker 13 (06:05):
You've turned around a seventy eight billion dollar deficit the
coalition gave to you.
Speaker 14 (06:09):
That was the forecast.
Speaker 13 (06:10):
The actual number when you came to power was thirty
one billion. Should you be more honest about the figure?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
That's not right.
Speaker 12 (06:16):
That was their forecast.
Speaker 8 (06:17):
Come back to what Trudy just said there. They forecast
seventy eight billion. What they what was delivered at the
end of that financial year was thirty two billion. You
came to office in May that year. Are you saying
that you turned around the budget by fifty billion dollars
in six weeks?
Speaker 12 (06:32):
I'm saying their forecasted was seventy eight billion dollars in
the budget that they handed down.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Now all credit there to our own Truey McIntosh. So I,
like many of those clowns, can actually read a set
of budget papers. Today, the PM claimed that China and
America were both Australia's best friend as if who are
we better friends with China or America? Both? Yeah? On
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Sunday night, after a bit of squirming, he accepted the
China was our big strategic threat.
Speaker 15 (07:08):
Does China pose the biggest risk to our national security?
Speaker 12 (07:11):
Well, China seeks is the major power in the region
which is seeking to increase its influences.
Speaker 15 (07:18):
The Dublin name China.
Speaker 12 (07:21):
You didn't, no, no, I said, China is the biggest
The country is the country that seeks influence in the
region to extend big and that is what we are doing. Well,
I'm the prime minister of a country, and how you
deal as prime minister is diplomatically.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I mean, here is shameless. How can China be both
our equal best friend and our biggest threat? But consistency,
as you know, has never been a hallmark of Albanese's character,
has it?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Photos with everyone?
Speaker 16 (07:55):
Okay in the middle, I stepped back one step. I
didn't fall off the stage, just one leg went down.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
But I was sweet.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
What's the worst moment of this campaign so far?
Speaker 12 (08:16):
Probably falling off the stage.
Speaker 17 (08:18):
Now, you said that was not a fall, you said.
Speaker 12 (08:25):
It was a joke, chill out.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
But at the time I stumbled, that's what happened.
Speaker 14 (08:31):
I laughed about it at the time.
Speaker 12 (08:34):
I laughed about it since it's no big deal.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
No consistency, no integrity, and even getting tetchy when Jenno
has come back at him. Now, I know the published
polls are discouraging for some of the Coalition, but this
remains an election that we decided to buy a whole
lot of seat specific local campaigns, and in just about
every seat the Coalition has better candidates and more inner
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local campaigns than they did in twenty twenty two. And
that's why I think this election's got a long way
to run, especially if the Coalition can finally make this
a referendum on labor and how much worse to reelected
Albanezer government would be. Instead of halfheartedly fending off Labour's
smears against them, take Labour's unrealized capital gains tax. Now,
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very little has been said about this new tax because
mainly people don't understand how it would work. So here
it is. Say your house is worth a million dollars
and it's had a four percent increase in value. Under
Albanez's plan, you'd have to find the cash to pay
tax on that forty thousand dollars increase in value. An
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increase in value, I might add that you've never actually
seen because you haven't sold the house. You still live there.
It's just that the value of your home has gone
up on paper and sure label say this is a
tax we're only going to apply to siparanuation, but even
then just to those with balances over three million dollars.
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When has this Prime minister ever kept his word? Since?
When has labor introduced a tax that it hasn't either
increased or extended. Now already the number crunches have been
forced to admit that this new tax will raise seven
billion dollars a year every year within the decade, and
given the estimated cost of labors, and at zero plans
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as high as one point five trillion dollars, says the experts,
this is a tax that will just grow and grow
and grow, first on big super balances, then on all
super balances, then homes on and on it goes.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
My word is my bond.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
This isn't a PM whose time and off has been
marked by how many times his lie devoters. He's time
has been marked by how many times he's been honest
with us. Given that's what's rare do we really want
a proven liar back in the lodge. I mean, that's
the question every Australian has got to ask themselves between
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now and six o'clock on Saturday night. All right, let's
start with the PM's campaign tonight, Johnny Now, Senior political
reporter Trundy Macintosh. We will get to some of the
questions there. I know he was dogged today about stuff
in relation to the credit rating. Are likely fallen our
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triple A from SNP A NA the HECLA. But I
want to say at the outset treaty or credit to
you picking him up on that lie that he perpetuates
in relation to the inherited dev said good on you,
absolutely good on you. But give us a send of
the PM's day on the road.
Speaker 13 (11:51):
Well, I have to say, Peter, despite all that, the
PM is still incredibly confident. They are bullish about their
chances here in Queensland. I'd have to say that the
press pack today yet a bit more momentum.
Speaker 14 (12:01):
It's probably hard to tell. On the road. For the
last two weeks or so, it's.
Speaker 13 (12:04):
Kind of felt like it's been very disjointed in terms
of the questioning. I think these press packs work best
when it's a consistent theme. We saw that today in
the questioning on the S and P credit rating. If
it had been a good credit rating, make no mistake,
any politician will be out there lauding it, saying, look
what the independent credit agencies.
Speaker 14 (12:20):
Are saying about our budget. When it's bad. They want
to put distance from it.
Speaker 13 (12:24):
On the raw politics of what seats here in Queensland
are in play, a bit of mail tonight from me.
The most likely seat, some Labour people tell me, is
to fall is like Heart, that seat in the far
Norse that covers Cans because of the retirement of Warren Nsch.
Speaker 14 (12:38):
But another roughy to keep your eye on is the
seat of Bonner.
Speaker 13 (12:41):
It's been held by Ross Vaster, a pretty little known backbencher,
i'd have to say, in terms of his presence in Canberra.
He's held the seat though for more than a decade.
Labor believes it's essentially a lock.
Speaker 14 (12:53):
That they will be able to flip that seat currently.
Speaker 13 (12:55):
Think about where they are, Peter in Queensland, only holding
five of the thirty seats, and they're bullish potentially about
picking up two. And that's before you get into this
inner city green contest, so fascinating to see. Potentially Queensland
is a place that Labour could go on the offensive
to potentially offset losses in out of suburban Melbourne. But
I've been going to a lot of polling boots with
the Prime Minister in the last two days and we
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went to one in Bonner and we saw.
Speaker 14 (13:19):
This colourbool interjection.
Speaker 13 (13:20):
I was actually coincidentally just standing right alongside this gentleman.
He's actually a Libertarian volunteer handing out for a Senate
ticket there. He asked some of these questions directly to
the Prime Minister and you'll probably be able to see
it here. The AFP sweep in pretty quickly, so to
to the staff to try and make sure it doesn't
get too close to the PM.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
How about do you know what a woman is?
Speaker 18 (13:41):
What what are you going to do about the.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Bryce of housing a woman? That's always a goodye for
a labor politician. Thank you, Trudy, We'll catch you tomorrow.
Now to the opposition leader and busy targeting marginal seats
on New South Wales South Coast today, clitical reporter cam
Reddit in the Air has filed this report.
Speaker 19 (14:04):
Peter, it's fair to say today didn't quite go to
plan for Peter Darton's team. In the early hours of
the morning, his electorate office in his home seat of
Dixon was vandalized. An eighteen year old woman has been
charged over that. On a visit to Gilmour, his press
conference had to be postponed after it was crashed by
anti nuclear protesters with union links.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
What do you make of all this?
Speaker 20 (14:24):
Well, Arthur roris from the South Coast Labor Council, under
instruction from Fiona Phillips, here to completely destroy an incredible
community event.
Speaker 19 (14:33):
Two hours later he did front the press pack in Whitlam,
where the Coalition has already dumped a candidate over comments
about women in the armed forces. This event lasted just
thirteen minutes before he pulled the pin.
Speaker 14 (14:45):
Thank you very much a transparency. Will you front up
to press conferences in Canberra?
Speaker 11 (14:53):
Peter.
Speaker 19 (14:53):
The other thing worth noting is the on course to
be record number of pre poll Already today more than
four all million Australians have cast their vote in this election.
That means one in four minds have already been made up.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Now, look, I want to return to that report from
Rady's agency SMP, warning that Australia's Triple A credit rating
is at risk due to the spendeth on from Labor
and the government's use of mickey mouse off budget spending.
In particular, last night, the Prime Minister completely dismissed this report,
not to mention light again about Labour's inherited deficit.
Speaker 12 (15:29):
The triple A credit rating is there and what we've done.
They must have been beside themselves whoever wrote that particular
report when the coalition left us with a seventy eight
billion dollar deficit.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
And of course you just saw with my exchange with
Trudy McIntosh there when it asked about it today penned
on it again. He just doubled down with his lie.
It is astounding. Gentlemen out to discuss this and more.
Daily Telegraph reporter James Willis former Victorian Liberal Party president
Michael Kroger's welcome putting aside of the PM's persistent lying.
This credit downgrade risk is a real worry. We now
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know too that Labor's going to partly fund these election
promises by taxing unrealized gains. Now this will slug some
five hundred thousands a half a million people across the
country with super and the massive sum that labor will
bring in from this tax if they are re elected
is some seven billion dollars a year. Michael. A lot
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of people don't understand this. I think this is why
it's not been a feature of a campaign. I made
the point I'll end up on our homes. This is
not real money you're getting in your poor but you
will have to pay tax.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
So this is the problem, Peter. This is this is
an outrageous proposition. As you mentioned before. Just see your
house is worthy had hundred thousand. Two years later it's
assessed it being worth a million dollars, it's gone up. Well,
a tax office is going to send you a bill
for a percentage of the two hundred thousand, thirty or
forty percent of the two hundred thousand. You'll say to
the tax office, but hang on, I haven't sold my house.
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Actually haven't any money to pay the bill. And the
answer will be say what, You'll have to sell assets.
And this is what Robert got Leaves and other people
in the financial press have been writing about. This is
a preposterous proposal, basically put into the Parliament by people
who have never run a business, never invested money, have
no idea really how the financial system works in the
private sector. And the problem is once you get into
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the super sector, pet of the question is there no Well,
perhaps we can look it out into actually market residential properties.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
To be fair, the government's only now proposing it on
super accounts with balances at the minute at the mill.
But once you break this protocol that the established tax
practice in Australia that we do not tax money you
don't have. Once we break that and we start taxing
money you don't have, they'll go everywhere. Label'll go everywhere.
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Dirrect James, what about this story today? Forty nine Australian
Army tanks. We promise them to Ukraine six months ago,
they're still gathering just in Victoria, yet to be approved
to go overseas. I mean, Richard Mars couldn't organize a
proverbial in a brewery Coulity.
Speaker 17 (18:10):
Well, Peter, and if you believe Andrew Hasty, the Shadow
Defense Minister and a veteran, he is warning that these
military pieces of equipment might not be in Ukraine for
a year, depending on how things lie. They're certainly months away.
And I think it's an extraordinary example of in one hand,
politicians standing there and pumping their chests and saying we
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stand with Ukraine, we are right behind Ukraine, We're here
to support Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
And then we.
Speaker 17 (18:38):
Learn that these trucks that were promised a long time
ago are gathering dust. We believe in Victoria.
Speaker 15 (18:44):
But not only that, like the US.
Speaker 17 (18:46):
Government is days away from actually getting the legislation through
and we're still trying to figure out who is actually
going to pay the annual bill to uptake and keep
these and maintain these pieces of military equipment. There's still
clearly a bit of a to and fro there between
Australia and America. And so yes, you have to wonder
for the daily retrick that we hear from labor about
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standing with Ukraine. I mean, for God's sakes, if these
things have been promised and we're meant to have delivered them,
what is the hold up? And also who is going
to pay from them? At this stage we don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, Richard Miles can find time to put his golf
clubs in the back of the vip jet when he's
flying around the country. He can find time to criticize
the bloke his opponent, Andrew Hasty, has worn the military uniform.
But he can't do his bloody d ajel. He can't
sit behind the desk and sign the papers and make
the calls to the States and get these tanks that
Abrams tanks actually they're not trucks, these Abram tanks to Ukraine.
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I just think it's outrageous. I think it's outrageous. Let's
go to Coo Young Michael. The AEC are now referring
the video showing a whole lot of the volunteers for
Monique Ryan, saying that they were directed to vote for
her by organizations with historical ties to the Chinese Communist Party.
Off to the election watch Dog, which includes Azio and
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the AFP. Have a listen, we're.
Speaker 15 (20:05):
Trying to fire find out you know, why you both.
Speaker 9 (20:08):
Are supporting and obviously.
Speaker 21 (20:10):
Volunteering for Monty Ryan.
Speaker 9 (20:13):
Why you you yeah, yeah, plans just TERMI forty is
a woman, Ran said, whether well you wish now?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Ryan climbed down from a high horse. Today's actually daigned
to speak with our own Georgie Dickerson out there on
the hustings. She claimed to welcome the investigation, but she
still launched into a tirerade of grievances against her opposition.
Speaker 21 (20:44):
They've ben challenged lots of challenges in the campaign. Obviously,
you know there was the video of the neurosurgeon taking
down and destroying one of my campaign signed. The Liberal
Party has many many people here who you know, they've
brought in to campaign on behalf of the candidate. We've
heard overnight that some of those people are Exclusive Brethren,
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so they've joined up with a religious sect. I think
some people would have concerns about the Liberal Party aligning
itself with an organization that doesn't believe in evolution.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I call her the campaign Karen Mikee. I'll tell you what.
She's a shocker.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
She's an absolute shocker. I mean, if there's one result
you'd like to see how Ed's election, that's the defeat
of her. By the way, Pedro, I'm still waiting for
her husband to file a statutory declaration to say that
the sign he took down was the only one you
might have noticed. We haven't seen him since that event.
He's disappeared off the face of the earth. But she's
complained here today a but religious people allegedly handing her
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hat of odd cards. That's shocking. I mean goodness to me.
Let's hope there's no Muslims or Jews or you know,
Hindu's handing a hat of aote cards. I think they're
entitled to hand how to vote cards, aren't they? But look,
what's happened today is yesterday is incredibly serious. This has
been uncovered and let's hope this integrity investigation by the
AEC offshoot gives a report Peter Buyers Saturday. Because twenty
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five percent of people voted, there's still seventy five percent
haven't vaded. They need to know before Saturday what's exactly
going on here because this looks very strange to me.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
And I don't think James that it's just this seat
that's in trouble cur Young for the tears. I think
it must be across the board, because not only are
they having a bit of a dumbest bit about how
the campaign's being run, not just in Kuryong, but in
other seats. There's a desperate plea for top up money
from wealthy donors revealed today Homes of courts put this
email already says our opponents have been underestimated both in
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terms of their viciousness, and they're all resourcing behind them. No,
I think this is just the electrics waking up to
these frauds. But we'll see on Saturday night. But we're
talking about a lot of money being pumped by Climate
two hundred into these seats. Two Teals who say we're
another party were independent.
Speaker 17 (22:58):
Yeah, And how Peter that the Climbate two hundred continues
to say that all of our money goes directly or
indirectly to candidates and campaigns. And you and I have
revealed in the last week that Climate two hundred transferred
five hundred and eighty eight thousand dollars to a comedian
who was making attack ads against the Liberal Party at
the last campaign. Look the contests in Sydney, and I'm
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sure you're seeing them in Melbourne, but in the Sydney
Teal held seats they are ferocious. You should see some
of the polling booths. The Liberal Party has lifted its game.
I think they've got some very strong candidates on the
northern Beaches and in the eastern suburbs.
Speaker 14 (23:35):
Is that enough?
Speaker 2 (23:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 17 (23:36):
I certainly know that one of the lines pushed by
the Teals is that in a minority government they're going
to have a much bigger say than they did in
this most recent term. But I certainly expect them to
be a lot tighter than what we thought. But yeah,
I mean, you've got Simon Holmes a court desperately trying
to push for money. Their polling obviously isn't as good
as first thought. They're running more than thirty candidates this
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time instead of just a handful last time, So it's
all going to be very interesting how that works with
preferences as well. But you certainly get the sense that
in some of these seats that were won by Teals
blue ribbon strongholds, that they may be switching back. And
I think there's a few nervous Teals at the moment.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Let's just stay with the Teals. We'll go to the
news type seat of Gilmore, revealed of course by the
Daily Telegraph today that the Independent Climate two hundred back
candidate there. Kate, you might to tell me out with
this name, Desanalde's, I think that's how I say it.
Previously described in an email the town of Barry in
the Electric she wants to represent, as quote, a miserable
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backwards retirement village that she can't wait to get the
hell out of cam Redden. As spoke with the Lips
candidate in the seat, Ceda Gilmore Andrew Constance about this today.
Arry is not a.
Speaker 20 (24:53):
Miserable backwards retirement village. It's a beautiful community with amazing people,
incredible volunteers, our seniors community. You don't deserve this type
of attitude out of a climate two hundred. Simon Holmes
a court back candidate.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Michael Kroger a miserable backwards retirement phil age a place
you can't wait to get the hell out of this.
Stuff matters in a tight seat, doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Well, of course it does. But this is what you
get from some of these candidates. They're too good, they're
too important for these types of electorates, and abusing people
in your own electorate, a part of your own electric
is just disgusting. Look Andrew Constance, I've got to say
he's going to win that seat on Saturday. Constant is
going to win. The more you see him, he grows
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on you. And secondly, someone who's run for Federal Parliament
on as many occasions as he has, in the end
the electorate often says he deserves to win, and that
Blake Constance deserves to win. And you can just see
how close he is to his community the way he
responded to day to that shocking, silly demonstration against Peter Dutton.
So Constance will win on Saturday, and those remarks are
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another reason why he's going to win.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Peter well I certainly say on Saturday. Nam the Sky
News coverage from five o'clock here on Sky News, Michael Kroger,
and I know you'll be busy to at the Telegraph.
James well ER's thank you gentlemen. Out of the break.
The woman who's long called into question our welcome to
country ceremonies just center Nampa. Jim Proprice will join me,
plus Labour's conduct at remote indigenous polling booths called into question.
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Senator Price won't be holding back. The AEC is now
urged to urgently intervene welcome back still the come and
go live with the UK, where very angry Brits are
borrowing a very potent Australian political slogan, the brilliant I
and herciali in just a moment, But first, the Welcome
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to Country debate has kicked off again today Former WA
Treasurerer Ben Wyatt, the first Indigenous treasure in the nation,
conceding that some ceremonies are too long and others descend
into political die tribe. Well, last night it was a
feature of the debate on Q and A partially of course,
what's a question about whether the ceremonies on ANZAC Day
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are appropriate.
Speaker 15 (27:05):
I think we need to give weight to the views
of veterans.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
I think that's very important, all speaking as though we
don't have indigenous veterans Indigenous Australian That is.
Speaker 15 (27:17):
A real piece of straw and man rhetoric, if I
may say so.
Speaker 7 (27:19):
It's just gutter politics from an opposition leader whose campaign
is in free form and you're starting to punch down.
Speaker 15 (27:27):
The name that Peter made was that many Australians think
that we're seeing the welcome to country ceremony too frequently.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
You almost get PTSD watching this stuff, don't you. Well
today some common sense yet again from Tony Abbott on
radio to gb.
Speaker 11 (27:44):
And it's become, if you like, an exercise in virtue signaling,
it's become a badge of political correctness. It's become a
political statement, a bit like wearing masks became a political
statement during the pandemic.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I won't say one, never have, never will. Someone who
else who has called into question welcomes to Country acknowledgement
of country as well is Shadow Minister for Indigenous Australians
just into Nampionship Price. So welcome. I love having you
on the show. You're a shot in the arm to
all my viewers right around the country. But you for
a long time have called into question this practice. Now
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you've got everybody else talking about it.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
Yeah, look absolutely, And I think the problem with Welcome
to Country is that it allows for I guess the
real racists to hide in play plain sight. I mean,
if you think about it, those who virtue signal signal
the most often those who probably exploit Indigenous Australians. Let's
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look at the Green Left and in the Environmental Defender's
office and the sorts of things that they've done over
the years. In recent times, they exploited the Teewee up
in the Northern Territory for their own agenda to stop
a gas project on their island and absolutely fabricated an
Aboriginal dream time story. These are the same people that
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would stand up and do welcome and acknowledgment to country
and pay their respects to elders and that sort of thing.
So's you've got that problem on one hand, and then
you've got the politicization on the other hand, where it's
sort of weaponized and used against Australians and it's quite divisive.
And don't get me wrong, there are moments when genuinely
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those delivering it is about trying to unify this country.
But you can't take the risk anymore, I don't believe,
and it is very much overdone.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yeah, I do agree with you in an appropriate setting,
and I've always liked the service in and around the
opening of Parliament. Fine, but not at a footing match,
not when you land a plate, not when someone's sitting
on a zoom, or in a conference meeting and you
know there's not a Blackfellow issue on the table. There's
no one in the room to virtue Singdom two. It's
just you know, corporate and doubling down on trying to
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look and sound good. But you rightly say, doing absolutely
nothing practically for Aboriginal people. I want to move on
and ask you now, though I've got some serious allegations
being made in relation to labor misconduct at remote indigenous
polling booths, what are you hearing.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
So the reports that are coming back to me are
no surprise to me because I've been well aware of
the conduct that occurs out in remote communities during every
single election that we have. We know that when reports
are made to the AEC, often the AEC are very lenient,
are very slow to respond, they don't speak the local language,
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and quite often those there are some even those who
are temporary AAEC workers from the communities, but also labor
people who are telling people telling their own This is
the reports recently telling relatives how to vote in favor
of and even touching the ballot papers of the voters.
(31:04):
So there's a lot of concern about corrupt conduct out
in communities which is going which is being reported to
the AEC. I did warn the AEC at Center estimates
that they need to need to do everything they could
to ensure that a proper democratic process is occurring in
remote communities, but it looks again like they're dropping the ball,
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and unfortunately there isn't a media pack out in communities
to capture this so that the rest of Australia can
see the reality of what goes on in remote communities.
I will continue to expose it all the time make
sure that the reports are being made and hold the
AEC to account to ensure that it's done properly.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Let's go to some issues I know that are dominating
the news in the Northern Territory. The teenager who allegedly
stablish shop Keep It at death last week. He was
on bail for rape and aggravated assault charges. If you
can believe that he was also on bail when he
allegedly sexually assaulted a fourteen year old girl. I know
this has brought law and order issues into sharp focus
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in the top end. How much of this is an
issue in the campaign.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Yeah, look, it's going to be. It always will be
until the situation is under control. A huge issue, particularly
in the campaign. You know. It's the reason why when
Lea Fanocchiaro came into government she put in a suite
of measures starting with strengthening bail laws. It's why she
had recalling Parliament back to sit to put even further
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tighter laws around bail. It's why Peter Dutton flew to
Darwin and met myself and Leah and those in distress
in the community on Saturday as well. It's largely this
is the result of ingrained labor government over so many years,
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so much work that needs to be done in this space.
But the public are also very concerned with the judicial
system and they are calling on judges to actually reflect
the needs of the community in ensuring that they apply bail,
restrict bail appropriately where it is not whether they're not
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allowing for people such as this young person back out
on the streets. And I've spoken to a very close
friend of the poor man who lost his life, met
with him. I ensured that Peter got a meeting with
him as well. And this is what they're calling for.
They want the judicial system to stand up and reflect
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the sentiment of the public and to do their job
and protect the public as well.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
I know you're working hard and they got a few
days ago. I really appreciate you joining me on the
show tonight. Thank you said it at an Amputuper Price.
Let's scretchkeys now for a moment and get out on
the ground in one of the ground seats in the
election campaign. I'm going now to the seat of Monas.
It's in Melbourne's out of southeast where a little candidate
Mary Aldred to hoping to make her mark this weekend
as she faces off a fierce fight from a very
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well funded till as well as labor. She joins me
now from Warregal. Mary, Welcome, great to have you on
the program. We're in the absolute business end of this campaign.
Your seat is a must win seat for the Libs.
Talk to me about the feeling on the ground, because
the Polsters say to me this election the fight is
local like never before, are they right? Thanks Peter.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
It's great to be back at the Warrigal Country Club
one with supporters who have helped me on pre Pole
all day. They're small business owners, veterans, farmers, community people.
Speaker 14 (34:45):
It is a battleground here.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
The Liberal Party won this seat by two point nine
percent at the last election, and I am working hard
for every single vote. We've got eight and a half
thousand square kilometers covering this electorate and I am engaging
with all parts of the community. The feeling at Prepole
has been really positive. I am so buoyed by every
power station worker and trade that's come through this week,
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coming directly and having a conversation. Lots of power station
workers taking my hat to vote card because they know
I've stood up for La Trobe Valley energy jobs for
timber jobs and I'll.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Stand up for this region. I was critical last week
of one of your opponents, this is the TL Den Blennon,
because last week she put a politically authorized ad in
the local paper around an Zac Day. Now turns out
I wasn't the only one who's critical. She's faced a
lot of criticism for the wrap around in the local paper.
(35:39):
There's been letters to the editor and more. I mean,
people do not want to see an Zac Day used
for political campaigning, do they marry No, they don't, Peter.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
I mean an Zac Day is a solemn day and
it's taken very seriously here right across the Monash electorate.
I was up at quarter past three in the morning
to get to the Philippila dawn service and then Curra
and Borough mid morning and finishing in near him South
in the afternoon. It's a very solemn occasion and it's
not one that should be politicized and I think the
local RSL here have had some words to say about that.
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I am very strongly engaged right across the electorate with
RSLs and XM's organizations, listening to their concerns year round.
Speaker 14 (36:22):
And it is not a relationship. But whatever take for granted.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
I know and I know she's also pumping a lot
of money into the seat. A bit of a fly
by night. We will see on Saturday night. All the
very best, Mary for the rundown to polling day. All
right after the break, protests over legal but arrivals in
the UK have reached fever pitch. Residents are calling out
out now for Australian style policies to stop the boats.
(36:47):
Plus later on why we must have a serious discussion
about ID on polling booths, welcome back to come more
examples of labor and the bureaucrats completely ignoring caretaker conventions
and voter fraud too. Why I don't trust labor without
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rules on voter ID But first I take to the
UK now where more than a thousand protesters have descended
on dover demanding action to stop the vote, saying illegal
migrations push Britain beyond the point of no return. Organizers
say this wasn't a racist or right wing protests, were
just ordinary people saying enough is enough. Johnyman, how to
(37:28):
pull it all apart? Good friend and skyn Is contributor
Ian hersy Ali, I am welcome to have the show.
Great to have you as always. You have long warned
our political leaders that if they ignore public concerns about
mass migration, it risks fueling anger and division. It feels
like me, you know, watching these protests, it feels to
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me as though Britain is now a tinderbox.
Speaker 22 (37:57):
I think that this is the word it feels too
many people who are watching Britain, and also the way
it feels too many Britains. There is a sense that
the social contract between those who govern and those who
are governed is breaking down or has broken down, because
for decades now, since at least the late nineteen nineties,
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British citizens have been saying they want less immigration, and
they get more and more immigration regardless of who is
in office. So there's this sense that it really you're
voted doesn't matter anymore. The government is not listening, and
I think that is why you have this sense that
there is a tinder box about to be lit up
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by something. We just don't know what it is, and
it'd be very unfortunate if that were to happen.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
All the talk about Britain laving Europe and charting its
own autonomous course as a sovereign country again when I
go to Britain. When I talked to Britain bout this issue,
I am that they basically say, we're still so tied
to Europe, are forced in the court regime and the
human rights legislation just to accept this exodus of people
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on their shores. But I mean Australia within this sort
of position not so long ago, and twice on the
Conservative governments, we have stopped the boats. So I don't
buy that they can't be stopped. Why isn't government able
to do in Britain what they've done in Australia.
Speaker 22 (39:29):
I think because it's not a question of being unable.
I think it's a question of being unwilling. Yes, Britain,
through Brexits took control of her own borders. And as
you remember, I always use the years of COVID as
an example, when the government was perfectly capable of shutting
down everything to pass its policies. The British government can
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get out of these treaties and extract itself from, for instance,
the European Human Rights Commission. It can take complete control
of its borders, but there is no political will. And
I think voters now see this, and they can see
that it is throughout the entire political elite, both the
Tories and the Labor Party, and now you have this
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sense of disconnection and distrust between those who govern and
those who are governed, and that is that's terrible.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Australia has been right across this issue of the child
grooming gangs in the UK and the cover up that's
now been admitted by UK Safeguarding Minister. She admits, sorry,
they admit a cover up as child's exploitation grooming gangs,
but they say no inquiry is needed. They say it's
(40:48):
an issue of local accountability. Why not? I an, how
does that get past the pub test? As we'd say
in Australia, it doesn't.
Speaker 22 (41:00):
I mean it's first of all, it's an unintended consequence
of immigration. Is immigrant men of Pakistani origin, many of
them Muslim, or the perpetrators of these horrible crimes against children.
And what the government has said is now we admit
that this has happened, but we're not going to invest
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in the inquiry we promised. In other words, the government
is sitting to vote us yet again.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
We don't really care what you think. It's shocking style
man issue and I'll expect to you again next week
after our election here in Australia. Thank you. I am
all right. The break the tail mpay who's linked the
death the very sad death of a Rugby star to
climate change plus lights out in Spain are their lessons
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here for Australia. Welcome back. Now. I want you to
have a look at this clip from the Member for Capricornia.
This is Emily Mawson.
Speaker 14 (42:01):
To the pre palm and as we say, vote early
and vote on them.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Well, she wants to be the member, she's the candidate.
Let's bring in my panel now. Queensland LMP Senator James McGrath,
Chief executive at the page At Research Center, Jared Holland, James,
that is an admission to me that worries me every election.
Voter ID Surely if Labor can lie like they do
when the PM's are master at it, then electoral fraud
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that's an easy thing to do. That's a real risk
in this election and every election with labor.
Speaker 18 (42:37):
It is a real risk with labor. You've just had
a Labour can that encourage people to commit electoral fraud
which is an offense we and the coalition want to
bring in voter id we've previously tried to Indeed, I've
got a Medicare card here. You might have seen the
Prime Minister throw this one around. We've said you could
even use a Mediacare card to allow you to go
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into a voting station and your identity, but not under labor.
Labor and the Greens repose this. We've got a Labor
candidate who should be stood down by the way she's
encouraging people to commit an offense, an offense against Australia's democracy.
Our democracy is far too important to leave it up
to the likes of that Labor candidate up in central Queensland,
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all with the Prime Minister who's doing a dodgy deal
with the anti Semitic, racist Greens.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Yeah, let's say Fosse. Questions from the media are about that tomorrow.
I won't hold my breath, Jared. Let's go to the
scenes we saw in the seat of Gilmour, the marginal
seat of course, in New South Wales on the south coast.
Gage crashes know all about anti nuclear rubbish today tried
to steal some attention from the opposition leader and the
Liberal candidate Andrew Constance, but a couple of locals there
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waiting to vote. They hit back.
Speaker 18 (43:52):
The ignorant, they don't know the facts and they just
scam angry.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
What do you make of all this men? I think
it's ridiculous. We're part of Nuclear for Australia.
Speaker 14 (44:01):
We're up to date with the facts.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Day Watcher voters are much smarter than some of these
activists give them credit form.
Speaker 7 (44:12):
Yeah they are, and good on them too. I mean
there's been two lives that have been pushed time and
time again by the pro and youur the lobby, and
that's around water usage and of course storage of the
nuclear waste to water. A nuclear reactor is basically just
a fancy way to boil water to produce steam. The
uranium atom splits, it creates heat. That heat turns into
boils your water. The steam turns, the steam moves the turbine.
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Turbine powers the generator. Boom, you have electricity, and then
water runs back through to cool the whole thing down.
This is pretty much the same system as a cult
fire power plant, except using uranium instead of coal. They
use about the exact same amount of water and the
same sites. Makes sense, and the storage same solution. This
has been sold for fifty sixty years. Nuclear fuel is
extremely dense. All of the nuclear fuel the US is used,
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and it's fifty sixty seventy years of nuclear fit in
one football field, concrete that underground. These are solved problems
and it's about time people stood up for the truth,
as these two incredible people did there in Gilmore.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
And let's not forget Australia. Every time you know some
of your love that's had ray therapy, radio therapy for
cancer treatment, that's done in consultation. Obviously with what we
have at Lucas Heights, it's been operating now for what
is it, James fifty or sixty years or something now
without any concerns. We've all benefited from it. And this
is what we want in Australia in terms of energy.
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Let's go to the tiles. I mean there is no low.
They won't prosecute on many issues in this campaign, but
I have to say this is a new low even
for them. This is Sophie's scamps. She's holding the seat
that Bromwin Bishop used to hold on the New South
Wales sorry on the Northern Beaches area just outside of Sydney.
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She politicized the tragic death of a young Manly Sea
Eagles rugby player suggest the climate change was responsible for
his death. I tell you what if I was a
veteran Mackela James, I turf her out over this response
and family are very upset.
Speaker 18 (46:14):
I want your viewers to go and find the nearest
gutter and have a look in it, because that's where
the Teal candidate or the Teal MP will be standing
in it. And in particular, the doctor Scamps has really
lowered the standard in this election campaign. She's promised to
be all the light, but she's all the darkness. She
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hasn't apologized to this player's family, she hasn't apologized for
bringing politics in to the death, to the tragic death
of this player. Instead, she's doubled down and still said
that climate change is behind the death. This is a disgrace.
She should apologize to his family, and she should apologize
to the wider sporting community for the games that she
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is playing.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
And let's be honest here, if we were really wanting
to have a conversation about energy and climate change and
all the things that matter in this campaign, would actually
be looking at Spain at the moment, wouldn't we? Jared?
Because they've had a nationwide blackout. Not a clear example
what's happened, but speculation is at the moment that it's
to do with some sort of overload of the solar
power system, like too much solar power into the grid.
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But I'll tell you what, without power, it shows just
how fundamental it is to modern life. They're in a
lot of trouble.
Speaker 16 (47:31):
There is.
Speaker 7 (47:31):
And this is something I think is really important. Regardless
of what actually triggered the trip, the fact is that
energy grids are extremely delicate. They operate on a frequency
that if there's any sudden changes, the whole thing can
collapse in just a moment. And this is why this
blackout spread not only across Spain but across the Iberian Peninsula. Now,
to sort of mediate this challenge, you need a inertia
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in your grid, and this is usually provided by big
spinning things that can act as a bit of a
shock absorber when you have these changes in frequency. Now,
our cop fi power plans that gas turbines do that,
nuclear power stations do that, solar panels and wind turbines cannot.
And on this day when Spain's grid tripped, it was
operating at seventy percent renewable capacity. And this is what
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Australia is headed for. If we continue to decommission our coal,
if we wind back our gas, if we don't adopt nuclear,
and we do go for this renewables battery only grid,
we won't have the inertia and we'll be at the
exact same risk that Spain.
Speaker 11 (48:24):
Is it.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
Just quickly, James, and just about out of time. But
I know you know campaigns. How does it feel on
the ground in Queensland.
Speaker 18 (48:35):
The feeling's pretty good in seats like Ryan and in Brisbane.
Here it is a knife fight on a knife s edge.
We're fighting against Labor and the Greens. I've been up
to Kens a few times and like that. It's another
type for another tough fight. But it is all to
play for and the mood is very positive at the moment,
very very positive. Get out there and vote.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Thank you, Get out and vote, but don't vote twice
like Labor to you to do. Lave it there. Thanks Gentz.
I'll see tomorrow night. Enter Bold Stixt