May 8, 2025 • 49 mins
Prime Minister Anthony Albanese calls for humility as he prepares to reshuffle his cabinet, Adam Bandt resigns as Greens leader. Plus, Sussan Ley gains support from party elders amid growing Liberal leadership tensions.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Peter Krandland live on Sky News Australia.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Good evening, Welcome to the program. Here's what's coming up tonight.
Huge news today for the coalition. Just In Nampajinproprice moving
to sit with the Liberal Party as leadership.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Joscelyn continues.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Now I'll speak with the Senator in a moment about
why she's made the move and what she hopes to
do to help the Liberals rebuild.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Do not miss the interview.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
All eyes on the coalition, sure, but let's not closs
over what's happening inside labor.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
There's a factional.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Few that has now boiled over. Former Attorney General Mark
Drayfus said to be dumped from cabinet. More on that
coming up, plus live to the Vatican City. The second
round of the conclave voting is about to get underway
this hour.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
A real possibility.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
We could have a new Pope elected by around half
past six tonight, and something almost all of us can
agree on. Goodbye and good riddance to the divisive Green's
leader Adam Banned today conceding the seat of Melbourne. But
even as he's shown the door, he still doesn't get it.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
We're in a climate crisis. We're in a climate crisis.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Should treat the climate crisis as if there is a
war on.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
But first it will be a very different Liberal Party,
clearly depending on who emerges as the next leader. Already
there are allowed voices demanding that the Liberal Party quotas
for women, even though picking candidates and the basis of
gender not merit is profoundly illiberal.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
I'm not calling for quotas. I'm demanding quotas at this point.
I'm channeling some of the entitlement of we see of
some of our liberal males who consistently ignore what needs
to occur for this party to evolve.
Speaker 7 (01:54):
Well.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Now too, there are equally loud voices demanding that the
Liberal Party are banned in its commitment to nuclear power,
and worse, that it must embrace Labour's renewables only energy policy.
Consider the ads now playing on high rotation here on Sky,
sponsored by a group calling itself Liberals against Nuclear.
Speaker 8 (02:14):
Sadly, it was a disappointing election. Multiple polls have shown
it was nuclear policy that stopped two to three percent
of voters supporting the coalition. Candidates that could have one
narrowly didn't. It's time for the party to reject this
nuclear policy and return to core Liberal values of fiscal
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responsibility and small government.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Al verise by people chief.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
The Liberals Against Nuclear resuilt.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Slick ads like that don't come cheap and they're hard
to put together in a hurry. The fact that they've
appeared within days of the election defeat shows a degree
of organization and funding obviously from Big Wind and Big Solo,
that should not be underestimated. Here's some of the key
quotes supporting Liberals against Nuclear from their website. Turnbull, who's
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been doing his best to sabotage Liberal candidates and Liberal
governments ever since he was ejected from the Prime ministership.
While he's there as Liberal leader, never forget twice he
tried to make the party embrace a labor position on
energy and emissions, and his son has been a big
donor too to the Teals. But also there on the
screen was Matt Kean as Treasurer and Energy Minister. Keen
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was the architect to the former New South Whale's government
stance on emissions that was even more hardline than Federal
Labour even before he left the parliament. While Keene had
accepted Chris Bowen's offer to be the head of the
government's Climate change Authority at the same time too, though
he was also working for a mob, And he's working
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for a mob that's hoping to make millions of dollars
out of renewables on the issue of climate and renewable energy,
all the rents seeking that's going on these two terms
Coats that are on a unity ticket with Labour and
the Green So please say this for what it is,
not an attempt to help the Liberal Party, but to
change the Liberal Party to make it on this issue
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at least indistinguishable from Labor, thus safeguarding the billions and
subsidies flowing to the renewable energy industry. Key here too
is one of the sector's biggest lobbyists. His name is
Michael Photius, the shadow godfather who's long been the factional
string puller for the Moderates in the New South Wales LIBS.
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And there's no doubt whose Photius candidate is in this
live leadership race. His candidate is Susan Lee, whose pre
selection the faction stepped in to save before the twenty
twenty two election. Now I'm sure Susan's our own person.
I know her and I like her, Yet it's her
allies that are demanding that the Lives drop their support
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for nuclear energy and to be taken seriously. So they
say the Libs now must have a woman as leaders,
even though let's not forget Labour picked up a big
whack of the female vote on Saturday nine and it's
led by two men. And the fact too that the
Liberals they have had a deputy as a female in
Lee and that didn't save them. If promoted to the
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chop job, Susan Lee will come under immense pressure from
those moderate kingmakers to me too Labour's energy policy on
the spurious grounds that we need to end the climate wars,
we need to end the energy wars, even though the
Liberal Party is won every election where it's made climate
and energy and economic issue rather than a moral one.
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Close in twenty ten, one, in twenty thirteen and of
course twenty nineteen. If the election just gone after courageously
putting nuclear on the table or Peter Dutton failed to
fight for it on energy, it's not poor policy but
poor politics that's bought the Libs undone What madness would
it be for the Libs to embrace Labour's energy to
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train wreck at the very time we know less than
a person of British Labor Prime Minister's standing in Tony
Blair has declared that net zero.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Is doomed to fail.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
At the very same time left wing parties reneurable they're
recommitting to nuclear power. Here in Australia, we're scared of
our own shadow Labour's energy policy. It simply will not work.
This is about physics and engineering reality. We simply can't
move from sixty percent reliance on cold today to eighty
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two percent renewables in just five years time. It's physically impossible,
it's simply unaffordable and it will kill our industry dead flat.
Yet if it leaves me to Labour's energy policy, they
will end up then making excuses for its looming failure.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Now, if you think things look.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Grim now for the Liberals supporting Labour's push to de
industrialize our country would make things even worse. And just
to underscore how crazy things have become of this country,
this report today about the Union's holding taxpayers to ransom
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on Malcolm Turnbull's favorite Boondo w all, a billion dollar
baby snowy two point zero, the project a massive White
Elephant was supposed to cost two billion dollars in take
five years. Well it will now cost some twelve billion
dollars in rising and take.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
At least a decade. That's not what the story is about. Today.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
In the Australian the unions were told are planning strike action,
demanding a six percent annual pay rise, a five dollars
an hour productivity allowance, a new one hundred and forty
dollars a day camp allowance, a thirty dollars a week
mobile phone allowance, sick leave paid out once the job ends.
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Right now, that's just annual le but they would sick
leave too, and double time for working in the rain,
even though when it's up the top most of these
workers are underground. Meaning if you out of all of this,
these new demands from the unions, these tunnel workers will
end up earning over three hundred thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
And this is your money.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
This is a taxpayer funded project, and that's more than
we pay specialist doctors in our public hospitals. Welcome to
elbow world, where a few people get more full less
and the rest of us are struggling to pay for
labour's ideological obsessions, busy show as I said, send an
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ampersy for price coming out. Let's get the headlines now.
Though skyn News political reporter Ribbon.
Speaker 9 (08:42):
Spargo, Labor MPs will meet in Canberra tomorrow ahead of
a cabinet reshuffle. According to reports, there is a push
to Act's Attorney General Mark Dreyfus from the ministry. The
composition will be influenced by the states and factions represented
within the expanded caucus. Speaking to sky News, Anthony Albernesi
was setting the tone for the reshuffle showdown.
Speaker 10 (09:05):
Government brings with it responsibility and no individual is greater
than the collective and that includes myself.
Speaker 9 (09:16):
Ministers could be sworn in as early as Tuesday. The
Prime Minister is unleashing on the Greens, pinally on the
party after its disastrous result. Members experienced a bruising defeat
in the lower House. It will hold just one seat
during the next term of parliament.
Speaker 10 (09:33):
Pretty hard to see that they have a reason for
any joy rising out of this election.
Speaker 11 (09:41):
You know.
Speaker 10 (09:42):
The Grange Political Party I think lost their way.
Speaker 9 (09:45):
Adam Bant has stepped down as the party's leader. Beyond Australia,
Anthony Abernesi is working to strengthen relationships, holding phone calls
with the King and Prime Ministers of Japan, Singapore and
Solomon Islands. The Prime Minister is prioritizing neighbors.
Speaker 10 (10:01):
I'll be talking with a slur Vnderland as well of
the European Union. That's an important relationship for us, as
well as the relationship in the region.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
We'll get that deal done. You reckon, you're well, well.
Speaker 10 (10:15):
We'll wait and see.
Speaker 9 (10:16):
Anthony Albernezi will visit Indonesia next week.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
All right, the AUC count slowing down, but there are
still seats outstanding. So let's get the latest now from
chief election adalyst Tom Connell.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
The Greens began this campaign holding onto four Lower House seats.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Yesterday we call they were losing the seat of Melbourne.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Today though, they are going to hold the seat of Ryan,
so they end up on one seat.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
That won't get any more than that.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
The other big watch will be the climate two hundred
Back to candidates. They're on four right now, there's still
a chance that they can get to six and even seven.
Let's look at some of those close contests and what's
happening right now.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Bean has been the surprise. This is a seat in Cambri.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
You can see here preferences are helping Jesse Price get
very close and she's even hit the lead against Labour's
David Smith. The vote to come here is absent. The
expectation is that will help Jesse Price. We've never had
this type of contest before. Once we see it flying,
we'd say she'll extend her lead. But it's only very
narrow now one hundred and ninety five votes, so once
that type of vote can come.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
In, we'll feel confident about calling that seat.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
The other one is Bradfield, in which the Teal Independent
is in the running here, nicolete Buller. She ran last time,
so how's it going this time again? It's very close
right now. This time we have the Liberal Party in
the lead, very narrowly by just under two hundred votes.
So whomever wins the absent vote, which is the main
vote still to come, we'll win this seat.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
It could be very close.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
We're projecting right now the Liberal Party would likely stay ahead,
but only by summer hundred and sixty votes.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
So if the preferences change or the flow change to
what we expect and the absent vote, that could be
a different result. The really close.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
One is Cou Yong has had the most fascinating development
because we've had votes here that have changed. They do
a recounter votes constantly. They found three hundred extra votes
for Monique Ryan. That means her lead is proving harder
to run down. For Amelia Hamer, it's still six hundred
votes and the postal flow is weakening.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
For Amelia Hamer. What we're predicting now is she will not.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Actually get back ahead after postal votes, and that would
mean if absent votes flow the same as last time,
you'd see Monique Ryan win, all be close by.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
About four hundred votes.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
We would want to see that absent vote come in
in case there's a surprise. But the fact Amelia Hamer
is unlikely to get ahead on postal votes could spell
the end for her in her chances in Koyo.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Very very tired, isn't it right?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Let's get across these issues and plenty more joining me
now our national affairs editor at the Daily Telegraph, of course,
our Sky News host James Morrow and media commentator Carolie
Katz and Bardas.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Welcome to you both.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Let's start with what the new look ministry might resemble tomorrow.
There were reports earlier today that the Attorney General Mark Dreyfus,
he's of the Victorian Right, could be dumped for another MP.
We're talking here, possibly of the Hawk MP Sam Ray.
Now I am told that vote has occurred, that decision
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has been made. This will mean that the Attorney General
could potentially be in the art of ministry or dumped completely.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
But he will not be in cabinet. He will not
be the AG.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
The PM was asked about this today but he remained
tight lipped.
Speaker 10 (13:26):
There's a range of positions to be filled. I'm confident
that whoever fills those positions, we will have an extraordinary
team going forward.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Now I tell you what James is, the thought of
character who could well quit in a huff. He may
have to be bought off with an ambassadorship or something.
I had always heard he wanted an appointment to the
High Court, but he's reached that age threshold where he
would not get that. But it will be interesting to
see how the PM manages that. The colleagues and bruised
a guys. Of course, he doesn't get to choose his
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ministry unlike a liberal leader. He just can allocate portfolios.
The factions the boys in the back room they have
cut the deals.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Well, isn't it just absolutely fascinating Peter to see the
complete ruthlessness of the Labor party in action. There was
another clip in one of the earlier packages you played
there where Anthony Albinez and the Prime Minister said, you know,
no one is bigger than the collective. No one is
bigger than the collective. And of course that's what you
get out of the Left and we're all just cogs
in this machine, including Mark Gravest. But also i'm told
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at Housick, the Industry's Minister is also another one for
the high jump in all of this. Now, it's fascinating
to me here because not only does it show the ruthlessness,
but also it shows how Labor is kind of, in
a funny paradoxical way, a victim of their own success.
They brought in all of these new numbers here. They've
done so well, they've advanced up so far down the
field that the spoils are actually order to divide now
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that they've got to sit down and create a new ministry.
So look, it's really interesting to watch this, but I
think everybody out there needs to understand this is how
the Labor Party behaves. It is always, always, always of
power and not the personalities necessarily.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I will remind people they often eat their own in
a way you rarely see in politics, and it's interesting too.
I mean, I'm going to watch carefully who gets what
portfolio because as I said, that's decided by the Prime Minister,
and it gives you a very good indication. You know,
if he puts a talented person in the inn a portfolio,
that's where he wants to go hard over this term.
If he puts a plotter in there, and the plotters
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are obviously chosen by their factions, if he puts a
plotter in a portfolio, that says to me that that's
going to be sort of on the back burner for
this term of parliament. So one of those key ones
I want to know is who will get energy we
saw today. If I can kirelate comments from Joel Fit's
given he is really pushing back.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Against the left.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
That's called Lean Labor Environmental Action Network who want the
twenty five sorry that twenty thirty five target to go
up as high as seventy percent in terms of emissions reduction.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
This is where I will watch very.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Closely when the p announces it as we suspect potentially Sunday.
Speaker 7 (16:24):
Well, it is certainly because the problem is, you know,
Joel fitsgiven, he's a very very smart individual, and he
is actually using a lot of economics common sense in
saying that, Okay, they might have won the election, but
it's not a license to go and actually wreck Australia's
economic credentials. This environmentalism, it's it's far too far over
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to the left. The other problem is it's also a
wake up call for Australians. You vote labor, you get labor.
They've never made a they've never hidden with the Labor
Environmental Action Network, the LEAN, They've never hidden that this
is what they want to do. But at the end
of the day, in trying to get in trying to
get the emissions down, they're losing sight of the fact
that you know, people's livelihoods, our standard of living.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Is going right down now. On the other.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
Side, very sadly, the Liberals didn't they didn't push this
enough in the election campaign, they didn't campaign on it.
But you know, at least Joe, if it's given, it's
actually speaking some sense that we can't afford to do this.
Australia can't afford to do this, and whether people like
it or not, the whole nuclear question that that is
one way, that is one way to get to net
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zero very quickly, to be able to do the emissions target.
But again that's gone down the river now and it
is a real worry because this country will just be destroyed.
We've got another three years of labor to go and
I just really hope that the liberals, the liberals prosecute
their case and focus on the next three years rather
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than rather than letting Lean just run roughshod over everything.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
There's not many bright lights in a dismal weekend result
for the center, right, James, But I'll tell you the
demise of Adam band it's about as good as it gets.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah, Look, it's amazing just to see him go down
in flames. And it's so fascinating to me because you know,
this is what happens when the Greens have moved away
from their core business of being about the environment to
being all about you know, basically you know, hamas on
the Era, supporting Gaza, supporting all of these Palestinian demonstrations
in our capital cities, everybody said, including in Melbourne, which
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as you know it's pretty left wing, said they were
sick of it. Now, Adam Bank gave this speech today,
this press conference, without any questions. You know, how's that
for your openness and transparency? And he went on for
what twenty twenty five minutes in the most self indulgent
fashioned Peter, I've never seen anything like it, maybe not
since the days of Tony Windsor and Rob oakshot back
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in twenty ten, you know, just going on blaming everybody,
including almost his own voters, who he said didn't really
understand the prefer actual voting system. He even said there
was a Trump effect that heard of and tell me
how that works on the Greens. It was just an
extraordinary saying. I think it's one of those things here,
Adam Band's departure from the public stage. It has brought
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Labor and the coalition together. Everybody I know on both
sides of politics has been high fiving about this result.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Peter, you are not wrong.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
But even with this loss, and it's not just this one, obviously,
Max Channeler, Maatha and others have gone, they still don't
get it. This was the Deputy Leader Senate later marine
Ferouki today, have a listen.
Speaker 11 (19:36):
I mean, this is a narrative around gaza that some
would like to push to suit their own agenda, but
the numbers tell the real story. In multicultural and migrant
communities across the country where this was an issue, there
are Boots where the Greens have one swings of over
twenty percent, and that includes Boots in Wills and Fraser
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in Victoria. In Western and Southwestern could mean their self Wills.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Her point Karaly is that she regards gaza as one
of the big issues of the campaign. She thinks that
gaza helped them, but if you don't, if you look
at the results, Gaza did not help them. Australians rejected,
whether the Australians who vote Labor or Australians who vote
the Coalition, they rejected the Greens and their anti Semitism.
Speaker 7 (20:24):
Well, they certainly did, and I mean I guess, I
guess they shot themselves in the foot. I mean, the
Australian public actually did listen and saw what a scary
and dangerous movement the Greens have actually become, and actually
took the time and they actually voted, voted, and that's
why the three Greens have actually lost lost their seats
and they were embarking on incredibly dangerous, divisive policies that
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the Australian public, you know that they saw through it,
and I'm glad that they actually did. And I think
it's a good thing for Australia that, you know, the
three Greens have gone, because they're not the Greens that
they were in the eighties and the nineties, and it's
incredibly dangerous. They have fueled a lot of the anti
Semitism in Australia.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
They are very one eyed.
Speaker 7 (21:09):
They're not able to look objectively as to what their
policies have done and what their policies would have done
for Australia. So I think Australians do have to be
commended for not voting for the Greens. And you know,
while they might hold the balance, you know, they've got
their members in the Senate. Let's just see what ends
up happening. But I do think that Marine Feruki needs
to have a good hard look to see that, you know,
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this is actually Australia and the level of multiculturalism, the
welcoming nature that we have in this country to allow
people to come in. I mean that is the hallmark
of Australia.
Speaker 12 (21:42):
It really is.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
And I think the general public in Australia just got
fed up and just rejected the Greens and good on
them for doing it.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yes, it will be interesting to see who assumes the
leadership as we go forward with the Greens. You can
see there, we've got pictures of the Vatican. We are
assuming sometime around six thirty nine, steady sharp, there will
be another vote. And obviously, if it's black smoke, we
do not have a pope. If it is white smoke,
we do. We'll prospotheatic in the moment.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
But James, just quickly. Everything's going on now.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
In terms of the jostling between Susan Lee and Angus Taylor.
Reports today that Susan Lee is already offering jobs right
across the board. One thing that struck me as very bizarre,
and I've heard this from a number of people. Apparently
she has offered Andrew Hasty's job as the shadow Defense
Minister to the very controversial New South Wales MP Alex Hawk.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, yeah, no, and I mean if that's true. Look,
there've already been reports out here that Susan Lee was
running a very transactional campaign doing anything that she could,
promising whatever he had to do to try and get
across the line. And frankly, up until today it looked
like that was working. But I'll tell you what now,
this whole movement of Just Enterprise into the Liberal party room,
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which Sinats are absent spewing about right now, totally changes
the equation because suddenly, if you had a tailor just
in the Price campaign for that leadership, Just Enterprise brings
an awful lot of heft to that ticket, and I
think that that would change the equation in there. As
far as Susan Lay promising Andrew Hasty, who is we
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all know, one of the most qualified people in that
parliament to speak about defense issues, if not, you know,
the most qualified to give that away to Alex Hawk,
I think would just be an active sheer madness. The
only consolation prize if that happened and if she became
leader would be the fact that she would not be
the one who winds up taking the coalition the Liberals
to the next election.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
All right, well, we'll watch that closely. With that certainly
the room around tonight. Thank you both for your time.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I'll leave it there and I've just been informed at
the Vatican that voting is now underway.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
We should have a result very shortly. Let's cross now
to Rome.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
We're joined by News European correspondent Sophie Ellsworth. You are there, Sophie,
for the conclave. I'm gonna ask you some questions in
relation to British politics.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
I'm having a look there.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
You're right there in front of Saint Peter's Square. Black
smoke we saw all come up the first voting round
on the first day of the conclave. We still don't
know a decision on the second vote. We're watching that imminently.
But what's the mood there? You're in a very famous
place in Rome. What's the mood like amongst the faithful?
Speaker 13 (24:35):
Well, Peter, it's a great being here.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
It's just so much excitement.
Speaker 13 (24:38):
On the ground. Last night the crowds were mammoth here.
Saint Peter's Square was chocol block. There are over forty
thousand people here waiting to see that smoke emit from
the chimney of the Sistine Chapel. So they're now in
voting again this morning. As you mentioned, there's two rounds
of voting scheduled for this morning and if there's no
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result there. Then they go in for another two rounds
this afternoon. So the crowds are really building around Vatican City.
There's so many tourists on the ground, worshipers and pilgrims
flooding in here because the excitement is really building as
we do anxiously await the release of that white smoke.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I want to show my view as a shot of
the front runners. I picked it up the other night
and I didn't look at it and think how uncanny
it is. The last five of those front running cardinals there,
they always look like the same individual lifelot. It was
a repetition. Now, what can you tell us about some
of the favorites.
Speaker 13 (25:40):
So there's a couple that keep getting named that are
the favorites. That's the former Vatican Secretary Petro Paralon, he's
one of the front runners. And also Filipino Cardinal Lewis Tagley,
he's another favorite. But Peter, we have to remind you
there's one hundred and thirty three cardinals inside voting. There's
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a very wide field. They're from seventy countries, so it's
the most geographically diverse makeup of a conclave that the
Vatican has seen in its history. So there's some experts
here on the ground who are telling me they think
the voting could even run into next week. But it's
really anyone's guest because the field is so wide. But
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a lot of them, Peter, they don't know each other,
they've never met, they don't know their names. They're wearing
name badges in there to identify themselves. So it's very
much they're meeting each other for the first time, which
might also prove a challenge to get that majority vote
that they need to appoint a new pope.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Yeah, it's fascinating.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
We'll leave that election and we'll go to one you've
just come from. I know you've been knee deep in
the British local government elections in recent times, and look
that extraordinary result from Reform UK and an endorsement really
of Nigel Farage.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
They have taken.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Control of ten local councils, they've won two mayoral races,
and they have added a fifth MP to their ranks
in the Commons. Give us a sense of what's been
playing out in British politics, because this is sure. They
got to put not just pressure on the Conservative but
a lot of pressure on Labor.
Speaker 13 (27:25):
Well, Peter, as you know, you watch this extremely closely.
All the momentum is with Reform UK and Nigel Farage.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
He's in the.
Speaker 13 (27:32):
Media every day. He has more oxygen in the media,
I would say than the government. He is making headlines
every day. He's got the momentum behind him. There's a
lot of people in Britain who are very angry.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
With the Conservatives.
Speaker 13 (27:46):
They've lost faith in the Conservatives and they're looking for
alternative party. And a lot of voters are angry with
the Keirs Sarma's labor government. He's had a shoka of
his first almost twelve months in office, so they're looking
for an alternate and Nigel Ferrage really speaks a lot
of people's languages in terms of his messaging. His messaging
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is simple. He said things like if our legal migrants come,
we're kicking them out. Basic strategies that he's trying to
push that people are listening to and moving towards him. So, Peter,
it's four years away till the next general election. It's
a long time, but in the polls he's ahead in
some of them as the favorite to be the next
prime minister in the UK. So this is a fascinating
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space to.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Watch and look, as we learned on the weekend, Sophie,
from an opposition, you've got to do the work from
day one. So four years sounds like a long time,
but he's got to come up with an entire a
whole of government agenda and field candidates in dozens and
dozens of seats, and perhaps he didn't have there at
the last election. Well, enjoy Rome. You're there for a
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moment in history, as I say, and we'll watch it
all very closely. Thank you, Sophie. All right, quick break.
After the break, we'll talk to just sent and Nampachen proprice.
Is that huge new today she's moving to the Liberal
party room. Now that's a very interesting thing that can happen.
She's from the NT. I'll explain how that works in
a moment, plus what this might mean.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
For the Liberal leadership race.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Blockerback still the calm, I'll speak with a woman who
organized a massive protest against the Greens and New South
Wales the so called health legislation that would see religious
freedom stripped from healthcare workers and an assault on freedom
of conscience. But out of the speculation about the future
of my next guest just into Nambajimpi. Price has been
a prominent and fierce Coalition campaigner, not just to help
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defeat Labour's voice to Parliament, but also to elevate the
issues of marginalized Australians across the country. Now, in a
formal sense, Navaghip Prize is a representative of the Northern
Territories Country Liberal Party the CLP. They have a tradition
of allowing MPs to sit in either the National's Party
Room or the Liberals Party Room, depending on the lower
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House seek there in or their position on the Cenate ticket.
Now today's Nambuti Price is set with the Nationals, but
in News today that sends shock waves around Canberra she's
joining the Liberal Party Room where she intends to play
a very prominent role in the rebuild of the coalition.
And I'm delighted to say just in the Nambajipa Price
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joins me.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Now, Senator, thank you for your time.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
I tell you what you have made headlines across the
country and I think made a lot of Coalition supporters
across the country hopeful for the future in a way
we haven't been for many many days. Why the shift
and why now, well.
Speaker 14 (30:43):
I guess, Peter, this is not a decision that I've
come to lightly at all.
Speaker 12 (30:49):
It is a decision that I've thought a lot about.
Speaker 14 (30:52):
And firstly, I guess I've always felt like the Liberal
Party room is my natural home. Given you know, the
Liberal Party is the Freedom Party, the party of responsibility. Now,
given the current circumstances, I think now more than ever,
when its strong people within the.
Speaker 12 (31:12):
Liberal Party, we need to be able to rebuild.
Speaker 14 (31:15):
We need to ensure that we don't lose support broad
support as part of a wider coalition. I mean, ultimately
it is about the strength of the coalition going forward,
and I feel like I would be best placed, as
someone who is ultimately a fighter, which is what I've
said before, to support the coalition from the Liberal Party
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room as a position of strength.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Your colleague James Patterson's come out pretty quickly this afternoon.
He has put up a post he says, welcome home
to Center. Now, I know that's going to carry a
lot of weight because James Patterson's also a fighter. When
you say the Liberal Party has got to rebuild, and
I do think it's the Liberal Party, I have to say,
more so than the National Party who has held a
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lot of its ground.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
What does that look like.
Speaker 14 (32:12):
Yeah, I mean it looks like hopefully a party that
can come together in a unified way, respecting that of
course we are a broad church that we are going
to move forward with common sense and common sense policy
and take you know, be of the center. That's what
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I think it looks like going forward. And look, can
I just also say with regard to the National Party
that I'm extremely grateful for the opportunities that the National
Party has provided me under the leadership of David A
Little Proud.
Speaker 12 (32:51):
I'm extremely grateful.
Speaker 14 (32:53):
And this what I'm doing now is of course no
reflection on the National Party whatsoever. I'm very grateful for
the support of people like James Patterson. You know, I've
got some you know, wonderful friends in the Liberal Party.
And as I said, I mean, I am a team player.
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The coalition is a team. You know, I've been I
guess you know, played footy and I see it much
like footy teams. And ultimately we want to rebuild and
be strong for the benefit of the country.
Speaker 12 (33:26):
Ultimately, that is what we need to do.
Speaker 14 (33:28):
My biggest concern is under Albanesi in the next three
years the state of the country that many of us
are bracing for. So we need to be in a
strong position in three years time for a rebuild of
the country effectively.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
You know, you cut through during their Voice campaign in
a way that few others did, and I think that's
where most Australians looked at you closely and have been
saying everywhere I go, and certainly I know you've heard
it too. You need to be in a more prominent
role inside a coalition.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Is part of this move.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
A willingness for you to really step up, you know,
get beyond just Aboriginal issues, as important as they are,
but really step up to be at the forefront of
where the coalition, where the Liberal Party in this case,
takes itself and takes its policy over the next three years.
Speaker 12 (34:23):
Oh look, most definitely.
Speaker 14 (34:25):
You know, Indigenous issues are huge issues and something that
I'm very passionate about, but we need to do a
lot more across the board, across all policy areas. You know,
and as many of us know, there was a great
deal of policy work that was done before the last
election that of course didn't see the.
Speaker 12 (34:45):
Light of day either.
Speaker 14 (34:47):
So definitely I want to be part of you know,
putting forward something for the Australian people that they can
get behind, and including our values, the importance of our values,
the importance of being proud to be Australian, which I
feel like has come under attack in more recent times.
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We want to make sure we want to instill that
pride once more what it means to be Australians. And
I think, you know, our values as a Liberal Party
as well, we need to get back to. We need
to demonstrate that that is what we are prepared to
lead with as well, which I don't think there was
enough in the lead up to the last election.
Speaker 7 (35:31):
You know.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
One of the criticisms out of the weekend as people
have stopped listening to the Liberal Party, how are you
going to be able to make them listen again?
Speaker 14 (35:43):
I mean, I think it's fairly evident that I'm not
shy to draw a line in the sand and to
be heard, and I think that's how we should all
stand proudly, you know. Despite it was an incredible defeat,
but it is a place that we from, place that
we can rebuild as a coalition going forward. And I
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will always ensure that I'm lending my voice to the
greater good, which is to support coalition but also to
support our country and listen to the Australian people. It
is ultimately the Australian people, and I think the Nationals
party room have done a great job of being grassroots
and listening to the Australian people, espousing their values and
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being led by them. And this is absolutely what we
need to do. We need to be that voice for
the forgotten people. As Mensies once put it, that's what
we need to do going forward as part of the
Liberal Party and the coalition, and that is how I
will certainly lend my voice in the fight going forward.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
I know my viewers will be picking up the phone
and reading their Coalation MPs tomorrow saying that you have
got to be in the front line if that happens,
just into an amperty proprice. You're willing to be drafted
into some sort of leadership role?
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Are you willing to put your hand up?
Speaker 12 (37:02):
Look, you know this has been a massive step.
Speaker 14 (37:07):
You know I will not put any limitations on myself
and ultimately, again I guess I've always been led by
the Australian people and we'll continue to do so.
Speaker 12 (37:19):
And certainly I hope.
Speaker 14 (37:20):
That all of our all of my party colleagues, both
sides we can continue to do that is to be
led by the Australian people.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
All right, we will watch with interest enter the price.
Speaker 12 (37:33):
Thank you, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
All right to get some potential names there, haven't You've
got Susan Lee, you at Angus Taylor. There's talk of
Ted O'Brien as well running for the deputy position, and
I reckon that woman might throw her hand in the
ring as well her hat in the ring. All right,
after the break, the woman who's taken up the fives
against a deplorable bill from the New South Wales Greens
of the Parliaments and breaking news there, plus Rump looks
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set to strike an agreement with the UK on tariff.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
So could we be.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Next welcome back to to come Kevin Rudd's latest broadside
against Donald Trump. It's i'n't going to earn his friends
in the White House, but joining me now on a
totally different issue.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
We've got breaking news for you.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Here, Professor Joanna Howe, I've on my Rhodes scholar, our
law school academic. You'll know her, someone who's fought a
long and hard fight to defend the human rights of
babies born alive, following it an attempted late term abortion.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Well, she's taken another fight.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
She did the trenches again, demanding the New South Wales
premier struck up a radical bill from the Greens that
was tabled last night in the New South Wales Parliament.
As I said, it looks like she might have had
a win. Joanna, how it joins me?
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Now?
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Will Joanna more strength to your arm? What has happened?
What can you tell us now?
Speaker 15 (38:51):
I've just rushed from the chamber pete at where we
have breaking years that the first very bad thing that
this bill does has been so the bill gave a
power to the Minister for Help to order all hospitals Catholic, Christian,
any hospital in New South Wales to perform abortions and
the hospital had to comply. And so, as I said
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at the start of March, this has the potential to
end religious freedom in our country. And because of the
showing of ten thousand people who came out last night
in the dark with their kids, you know, just ordinary
folk came out to say this cannot happen in New
South Wales. One out of the four very bad things
in this bill has already been defeated. It's going to
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be a long night. There's a steep mountain we have
to climb. But I'm very excited and a bit emotional
actually at the fact that together we've achieved something.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Look, you've got a right to be. You have an
absolute right to be. I spoke to Tony Abat last night.
I know he went down and addressed your rally. He
said this was an assault on freedom of conscience. What
I don't understand is there are hospitals and g peak
clinics across the country that offer abortion services. So to
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force those institutions that do not based on their religious
values is a line that Australians have never ever voted
to cross. So what's driving this agenda?
Speaker 15 (40:19):
So look, in Australia, you can get a telehealth abortion
in any postcode, in any location, and it can cost
as little as six dollars eighty to end the life
of your child, so cheaper than a milkshake. And that's
how much the federal government subsidizes abortion. And the reality
is the smoke screen that the Greens have used for
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this bill is to say that it needs to be
accessible in rural and regional areas. Chris Means, the premiere,
during the election campaign, came out and said that this
bill will decimate the health workforce because midwives and nurses
are not going to want to do this, and he
said it's an affront to religious freedom. And in the
election campaign we saw alban Easy talking about how he'd
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come back to the faith, crying over the death of
Pope Frances, going to Saint Mary's on Easter Sunday, he
was with the Greek Orthodox in the evening. You know,
they were courting the religious vote in Western Sydney, where
they knew those electorates voted against same sex marriage. They're
deeply conservative electorates and Labor fooled religious voters into thinking
that they would be on their site. And within one
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day of Albanesi winning, Chris Mins did a grubby deal
with the Greens to ram this bill through the Parliament
despite all the assurances that they were going to block
this bill. So it is a massive breach of trust
from Labor. And what I think is driving this bill
is a pro abortion ideology deep within the Labor Party
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because of Emily's List, because of that underground militia of
pro abortion women who have this as their number one
agenda item, and they've worked behind the scenes with Amandacon,
who's an abortionist in the Greens, who's leading this bill
in the Parliament. And what they want to see is
an ideology where none of us can dissent. You and I, Peter,
or any ordinary Australian or any ordinary health worker who
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doesn't want to do abortions, doesn't want to perform abortions,
believes that abortion ends the life of an innocent, vulnerable child. Indeed,
our youngest Australians. The Greens and pro abortion labor want
to make sure that we went allowed to think that,
we're not allowed to believe that, we're not allowed to
act on that.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
And of course I made the point last night.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Once you extend it into abortion, you're extending it into euthanasia.
There will be no line that's available to any health
worker or any worker to exercise their conscience. Just quickly,
I'm almost out of time. You mentioned four elements of
the bill. You defeated one. What are the other three?
Speaker 15 (42:41):
Look the second aspect of the bill removes all hard
to keeping requirements on abortion, just essentially pushes it underground.
The third element forces doctors to be involved in abortion,
that to actively transfer, which makes them morally complicit. And
the fourth element, which is the one I'm most worried about,
because my sources tell me that this is the one
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that Chris Mins and Labor want to push through, is
the ability to turn nurses and midwives into abortionness. If
this passes, this will make it even easier to end
the lives of innocent babies in this state. And if
it does pass, my message in New South Wales Labor
is we know what you've done. We see through you
and the ten thousand people that were there tonight last night.
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We are passionate over the next twenty months of making
sure that you do not form government again in March
twenty twenty seven. We have long memories and we want
all of this bill to be gutted. It has no
place in a democratic country like Australia.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Joanna how thank you for that, and thank you for
the synopsis there or the simple understanding of what was
promised prior to the election, as you say to court,
the vote in parts of the country that Labor needed
to win and where.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
We are now tonight.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Thank you for joining us, and well done at least
on getting that bit changed. Hey, look, some really sad
news this afternoon before we go to the break. I'm
a liberal MP, doctor Katie Allen. She of course ran
as a candidate in the set of Chisholm wasn't successful.
She has announced very sadly tonight that she has been
diagnosed with a rare form of cancer. She says it
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is stage four and it has already spread. She says,
as a doctor, I've stood beside many patients and their
families in moments like this. I've seen an incredible courage,
in dignity and strength, and I feel the meense gratitude
for the life I've led. Now I face a very
different challenge, but I will meet it with the same
qualities that have always guided me. Well, Dr Allen, to
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you and your family, the whole Sky News family. We
wish you all the very best in the tough times ahead.
All right, after the break, what would a US takeover
of Gaza look like? The Prime Minister, sorry, the President
of the United States is on his way to the
Middle East. We'll talk about that and Kevin Rude's latest
swipe at Donald Trump. What's it mean for our tariff negotiations.
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Welcome back our international rap happens on a Thursday of
joined down to do that with Skyne his contributed kosher guard,
a former labor and p Michael Daanmi. We'll get to
the stuff in a moment, Michael. But just very quickly
confirmation that Mark Dreyfuss has now been dumped by the
New Southwest Sorry, the Victorian Labor Right.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
He will not make the cabinet. Is that correct?
Speaker 4 (45:20):
Yes?
Speaker 16 (45:21):
He lost full ballots fifteen to one. Wow, And I
feel very sorry for him. He started so brightly in politics.
He seems to have lost all of his friends. I
haven't seen him since his very lovely wife died, but
you know, he's made a lot of mistakes in personal
relationships in politics.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Right, I won'll see what happens there. Hey, what's going
on with Donald Trump and Kevin Right and tariffs? Because
Kevin Right, you know, we obviously need a seat at
the table. We need to renegotiate these tariffs. And it
looks like Kevin Ryd has as ridiculed.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
Am I right?
Speaker 17 (45:54):
He was at some conference in Los Angeles and ridiculed
the film Tariff, leaving Blue into it to sort of
make a point and the Penguin Island thing. There's a
love lost between those two. He's been rather blunt in
his descriptions about Trump in the past. Trump has returned fire,
I know, but.
Speaker 16 (46:10):
He's meant to be our representative.
Speaker 17 (46:12):
That's terrible, I know, and he seems to continue with
that formula. I think ultimately what it will come down
it doesn't help. And if Trump really makes an issue
about that, I think primaries Albanezie will have a problem
on his hands. But I think for now, ultimately what
Trump wants is a term sheet that's feverable and that
we can all agree to, And if that happens, I
think he'll overlook the comments. But it's certainly not helpful that.
Speaker 16 (46:32):
Donald should should concentrate on stopping Hollywood producing woke movies
like the recent one of Was It Sleeping Beauty? That
was terrible? Can by everyone make better movies?
Speaker 3 (46:43):
Movie that has failed the box office? Yeah, go, won't
go broke?
Speaker 2 (46:48):
And that ultimately will drive the change the President's off
to the Middle East. But it's a bit of a well,
it is a tinder box anyway, but it's getting worse
at the moment.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
What's going on with.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
The Hooties and he run there's there's a real power
play here.
Speaker 16 (47:01):
There's only the President announced that there's only twenty one
hostages left alive out of the fifty nine, so they're
slowly torturing or killing them. The President declared the unilateral
ceasefire at a press conference with the Prime Minister of
Canada with the Hooties. He didn't tell the Israelis, who
were his close allies.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
And in the.
Speaker 16 (47:21):
Meantime, the Uranians had a terrorist group in the UK
four hours from being doing their operation, and in the
President didn't seem to know it his press conference that
the Hooties had just attacked Tel Aviv Airport. Now it's
all one hydra headed monster that both they and the
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Israelis are going to have to decide what is done
with the head of the monster. And the president, you know,
forget the issue just of nuclear he has to deal
with the issue of these crazy people shooting off missiles
and running international terrorist incidents.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
Can he do it?
Speaker 17 (47:59):
I think it's going to be very tricky this issue.
And President Trump boss is feecing a lot of pressure
from his beast not get too mired and not get
involved militarily. People are very tired of that. So he's
balancing that with the shipping lean constraint and the broader
issue around Israel.
Speaker 16 (48:13):
So the public opinion polls show that a lot of
Republicans do not support his foreign policy options, either with
Ukraine or with Israel, et cetera. Now Israel is getting
more unpopular in American public opinion. That's true. But you
know this is to declare a hood, that's what you
call it in Arabic, a temporary ceasefire, while not looking
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at what they're doing in the rest of the world.
Steve Whitcoff, I don't know. He may be good at
real estate, but this is not a great negotiator, if
you ask.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
Me, I got to go.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
Well done to you too for all your work in
seeing off Adam Bant. I know working with many behind
the scenes. Thanks for it takes to both of you.
But well done to you. Michael Dambi.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
That's it for me. See you all next week Monday
at six.
Speaker 12 (48:58):
He is Andrew
Peter Krandland live on Sky News Australia.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Good evening, Welcome to the program. Here's what's coming up tonight.
Huge news today for the coalition. Just In Nampajinproprice moving
to sit with the Liberal Party as leadership.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Joscelyn continues.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Now I'll speak with the Senator in a moment about
why she's made the move and what she hopes to
do to help the Liberals rebuild.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Do not miss the interview.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
All eyes on the coalition, sure, but let's not closs
over what's happening inside labor.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
There's a factional.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Few that has now boiled over. Former Attorney General Mark
Drayfus said to be dumped from cabinet. More on that
coming up, plus live to the Vatican City. The second
round of the conclave voting is about to get underway
this hour.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
A real possibility.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
We could have a new Pope elected by around half
past six tonight, and something almost all of us can
agree on. Goodbye and good riddance to the divisive Green's
leader Adam Banned today conceding the seat of Melbourne. But
even as he's shown the door, he still doesn't get it.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
We're in a climate crisis. We're in a climate crisis.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Should treat the climate crisis as if there is a
war on.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
But first it will be a very different Liberal Party,
clearly depending on who emerges as the next leader. Already
there are allowed voices demanding that the Liberal Party quotas
for women, even though picking candidates and the basis of
gender not merit is profoundly illiberal.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
I'm not calling for quotas. I'm demanding quotas at this point.
I'm channeling some of the entitlement of we see of
some of our liberal males who consistently ignore what needs
to occur for this party to evolve.
Speaker 7 (01:54):
Well.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Now too, there are equally loud voices demanding that the
Liberal Party are banned in its commitment to nuclear power,
and worse, that it must embrace Labour's renewables only energy policy.
Consider the ads now playing on high rotation here on Sky,
sponsored by a group calling itself Liberals against Nuclear.
Speaker 8 (02:14):
Sadly, it was a disappointing election. Multiple polls have shown
it was nuclear policy that stopped two to three percent
of voters supporting the coalition. Candidates that could have one
narrowly didn't. It's time for the party to reject this
nuclear policy and return to core Liberal values of fiscal
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responsibility and small government.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Al verise by people chief.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
The Liberals Against Nuclear resuilt.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Slick ads like that don't come cheap and they're hard
to put together in a hurry. The fact that they've
appeared within days of the election defeat shows a degree
of organization and funding obviously from Big Wind and Big Solo,
that should not be underestimated. Here's some of the key
quotes supporting Liberals against Nuclear from their website. Turnbull, who's
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been doing his best to sabotage Liberal candidates and Liberal
governments ever since he was ejected from the Prime ministership.
While he's there as Liberal leader, never forget twice he
tried to make the party embrace a labor position on
energy and emissions, and his son has been a big
donor too to the Teals. But also there on the
screen was Matt Kean as Treasurer and Energy Minister. Keen
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was the architect to the former New South Whale's government
stance on emissions that was even more hardline than Federal
Labour even before he left the parliament. While Keene had
accepted Chris Bowen's offer to be the head of the
government's Climate change Authority at the same time too, though
he was also working for a mob, And he's working
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for a mob that's hoping to make millions of dollars
out of renewables on the issue of climate and renewable energy,
all the rents seeking that's going on these two terms
Coats that are on a unity ticket with Labour and
the Green So please say this for what it is,
not an attempt to help the Liberal Party, but to
change the Liberal Party to make it on this issue
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at least indistinguishable from Labor, thus safeguarding the billions and
subsidies flowing to the renewable energy industry. Key here too
is one of the sector's biggest lobbyists. His name is
Michael Photius, the shadow godfather who's long been the factional
string puller for the Moderates in the New South Wales LIBS.
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And there's no doubt whose Photius candidate is in this
live leadership race. His candidate is Susan Lee, whose pre
selection the faction stepped in to save before the twenty
twenty two election. Now I'm sure Susan's our own person.
I know her and I like her, Yet it's her
allies that are demanding that the Lives drop their support
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for nuclear energy and to be taken seriously. So they
say the Libs now must have a woman as leaders,
even though let's not forget Labour picked up a big
whack of the female vote on Saturday nine and it's
led by two men. And the fact too that the
Liberals they have had a deputy as a female in
Lee and that didn't save them. If promoted to the
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chop job, Susan Lee will come under immense pressure from
those moderate kingmakers to me too Labour's energy policy on
the spurious grounds that we need to end the climate wars,
we need to end the energy wars, even though the
Liberal Party is won every election where it's made climate
and energy and economic issue rather than a moral one.
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Close in twenty ten, one, in twenty thirteen and of
course twenty nineteen. If the election just gone after courageously
putting nuclear on the table or Peter Dutton failed to
fight for it on energy, it's not poor policy but
poor politics that's bought the Libs undone What madness would
it be for the Libs to embrace Labour's energy to
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train wreck at the very time we know less than
a person of British Labor Prime Minister's standing in Tony
Blair has declared that net zero.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Is doomed to fail.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
At the very same time left wing parties reneurable they're
recommitting to nuclear power. Here in Australia, we're scared of
our own shadow Labour's energy policy. It simply will not work.
This is about physics and engineering reality. We simply can't
move from sixty percent reliance on cold today to eighty
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two percent renewables in just five years time. It's physically impossible,
it's simply unaffordable and it will kill our industry dead flat.
Yet if it leaves me to Labour's energy policy, they
will end up then making excuses for its looming failure.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Now, if you think things look.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Grim now for the Liberals supporting Labour's push to de
industrialize our country would make things even worse. And just
to underscore how crazy things have become of this country,
this report today about the Union's holding taxpayers to ransom
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on Malcolm Turnbull's favorite Boondo w all, a billion dollar
baby snowy two point zero, the project a massive White
Elephant was supposed to cost two billion dollars in take
five years. Well it will now cost some twelve billion
dollars in rising and take.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
At least a decade. That's not what the story is about. Today.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
In the Australian the unions were told are planning strike action,
demanding a six percent annual pay rise, a five dollars
an hour productivity allowance, a new one hundred and forty
dollars a day camp allowance, a thirty dollars a week
mobile phone allowance, sick leave paid out once the job ends.
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Right now, that's just annual le but they would sick
leave too, and double time for working in the rain,
even though when it's up the top most of these
workers are underground. Meaning if you out of all of this,
these new demands from the unions, these tunnel workers will
end up earning over three hundred thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
And this is your money.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
This is a taxpayer funded project, and that's more than
we pay specialist doctors in our public hospitals. Welcome to
elbow world, where a few people get more full less
and the rest of us are struggling to pay for
labour's ideological obsessions, busy show as I said, send an
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ampersy for price coming out. Let's get the headlines now.
Though skyn News political reporter Ribbon.
Speaker 9 (08:42):
Spargo, Labor MPs will meet in Canberra tomorrow ahead of
a cabinet reshuffle. According to reports, there is a push
to Act's Attorney General Mark Dreyfus from the ministry. The
composition will be influenced by the states and factions represented
within the expanded caucus. Speaking to sky News, Anthony Albernesi
was setting the tone for the reshuffle showdown.
Speaker 10 (09:05):
Government brings with it responsibility and no individual is greater
than the collective and that includes myself.
Speaker 9 (09:16):
Ministers could be sworn in as early as Tuesday. The
Prime Minister is unleashing on the Greens, pinally on the
party after its disastrous result. Members experienced a bruising defeat
in the lower House. It will hold just one seat
during the next term of parliament.
Speaker 10 (09:33):
Pretty hard to see that they have a reason for
any joy rising out of this election.
Speaker 11 (09:41):
You know.
Speaker 10 (09:42):
The Grange Political Party I think lost their way.
Speaker 9 (09:45):
Adam Bant has stepped down as the party's leader. Beyond Australia,
Anthony Abernesi is working to strengthen relationships, holding phone calls
with the King and Prime Ministers of Japan, Singapore and
Solomon Islands. The Prime Minister is prioritizing neighbors.
Speaker 10 (10:01):
I'll be talking with a slur Vnderland as well of
the European Union. That's an important relationship for us, as
well as the relationship in the region.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
We'll get that deal done. You reckon, you're well, well.
Speaker 10 (10:15):
We'll wait and see.
Speaker 9 (10:16):
Anthony Albernezi will visit Indonesia next week.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
All right, the AUC count slowing down, but there are
still seats outstanding. So let's get the latest now from
chief election adalyst Tom Connell.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
The Greens began this campaign holding onto four Lower House seats.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Yesterday we call they were losing the seat of Melbourne.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Today though, they are going to hold the seat of Ryan,
so they end up on one seat.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
That won't get any more than that.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
The other big watch will be the climate two hundred
Back to candidates. They're on four right now, there's still
a chance that they can get to six and even seven.
Let's look at some of those close contests and what's
happening right now.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Bean has been the surprise. This is a seat in Cambri.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
You can see here preferences are helping Jesse Price get
very close and she's even hit the lead against Labour's
David Smith. The vote to come here is absent. The
expectation is that will help Jesse Price. We've never had
this type of contest before. Once we see it flying,
we'd say she'll extend her lead. But it's only very
narrow now one hundred and ninety five votes, so once
that type of vote can come.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
In, we'll feel confident about calling that seat.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
The other one is Bradfield, in which the Teal Independent
is in the running here, nicolete Buller. She ran last time,
so how's it going this time again? It's very close
right now. This time we have the Liberal Party in
the lead, very narrowly by just under two hundred votes.
So whomever wins the absent vote, which is the main
vote still to come, we'll win this seat.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
It could be very close.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
We're projecting right now the Liberal Party would likely stay ahead,
but only by summer hundred and sixty votes.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
So if the preferences change or the flow change to
what we expect and the absent vote, that could be
a different result. The really close.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
One is Cou Yong has had the most fascinating development
because we've had votes here that have changed. They do
a recounter votes constantly. They found three hundred extra votes
for Monique Ryan. That means her lead is proving harder
to run down. For Amelia Hamer, it's still six hundred
votes and the postal flow is weakening.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
For Amelia Hamer. What we're predicting now is she will not.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Actually get back ahead after postal votes, and that would
mean if absent votes flow the same as last time,
you'd see Monique Ryan win, all be close by.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
About four hundred votes.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
We would want to see that absent vote come in
in case there's a surprise. But the fact Amelia Hamer
is unlikely to get ahead on postal votes could spell
the end for her in her chances in Koyo.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Very very tired, isn't it right?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Let's get across these issues and plenty more joining me
now our national affairs editor at the Daily Telegraph, of course,
our Sky News host James Morrow and media commentator Carolie
Katz and Bardas.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Welcome to you both.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Let's start with what the new look ministry might resemble tomorrow.
There were reports earlier today that the Attorney General Mark Dreyfus,
he's of the Victorian Right, could be dumped for another MP.
We're talking here, possibly of the Hawk MP Sam Ray.
Now I am told that vote has occurred, that decision
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has been made. This will mean that the Attorney General
could potentially be in the art of ministry or dumped completely.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
But he will not be in cabinet. He will not
be the AG.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
The PM was asked about this today but he remained
tight lipped.
Speaker 10 (13:26):
There's a range of positions to be filled. I'm confident
that whoever fills those positions, we will have an extraordinary
team going forward.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Now I tell you what James is, the thought of
character who could well quit in a huff. He may
have to be bought off with an ambassadorship or something.
I had always heard he wanted an appointment to the
High Court, but he's reached that age threshold where he
would not get that. But it will be interesting to
see how the PM manages that. The colleagues and bruised
a guys. Of course, he doesn't get to choose his
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ministry unlike a liberal leader. He just can allocate portfolios.
The factions the boys in the back room they have
cut the deals.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Well, isn't it just absolutely fascinating Peter to see the
complete ruthlessness of the Labor party in action. There was
another clip in one of the earlier packages you played
there where Anthony Albinez and the Prime Minister said, you know,
no one is bigger than the collective. No one is
bigger than the collective. And of course that's what you
get out of the Left and we're all just cogs
in this machine, including Mark Gravest. But also i'm told
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at Housick, the Industry's Minister is also another one for
the high jump in all of this. Now, it's fascinating
to me here because not only does it show the ruthlessness,
but also it shows how Labor is kind of, in
a funny paradoxical way, a victim of their own success.
They brought in all of these new numbers here. They've
done so well, they've advanced up so far down the
field that the spoils are actually order to divide now
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that they've got to sit down and create a new ministry.
So look, it's really interesting to watch this, but I
think everybody out there needs to understand this is how
the Labor Party behaves. It is always, always, always of
power and not the personalities necessarily.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I will remind people they often eat their own in
a way you rarely see in politics, and it's interesting too.
I mean, I'm going to watch carefully who gets what
portfolio because as I said, that's decided by the Prime Minister,
and it gives you a very good indication. You know,
if he puts a talented person in the inn a portfolio,
that's where he wants to go hard over this term.
If he puts a plotter in there, and the plotters
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are obviously chosen by their factions, if he puts a
plotter in a portfolio, that says to me that that's
going to be sort of on the back burner for
this term of parliament. So one of those key ones
I want to know is who will get energy we
saw today. If I can kirelate comments from Joel Fit's
given he is really pushing back.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Against the left.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
That's called Lean Labor Environmental Action Network who want the
twenty five sorry that twenty thirty five target to go
up as high as seventy percent in terms of emissions reduction.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
This is where I will watch very.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Closely when the p announces it as we suspect potentially Sunday.
Speaker 7 (16:24):
Well, it is certainly because the problem is, you know,
Joel fitsgiven, he's a very very smart individual, and he
is actually using a lot of economics common sense in
saying that, Okay, they might have won the election, but
it's not a license to go and actually wreck Australia's
economic credentials. This environmentalism, it's it's far too far over
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to the left. The other problem is it's also a
wake up call for Australians. You vote labor, you get labor.
They've never made a they've never hidden with the Labor
Environmental Action Network, the LEAN, They've never hidden that this
is what they want to do. But at the end
of the day, in trying to get in trying to
get the emissions down, they're losing sight of the fact
that you know, people's livelihoods, our standard of living.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Is going right down now. On the other.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
Side, very sadly, the Liberals didn't they didn't push this
enough in the election campaign, they didn't campaign on it.
But you know, at least Joe, if it's given, it's
actually speaking some sense that we can't afford to do this.
Australia can't afford to do this, and whether people like
it or not, the whole nuclear question that that is
one way, that is one way to get to net
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zero very quickly, to be able to do the emissions target.
But again that's gone down the river now and it
is a real worry because this country will just be destroyed.
We've got another three years of labor to go and
I just really hope that the liberals, the liberals prosecute
their case and focus on the next three years rather
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than rather than letting Lean just run roughshod over everything.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
There's not many bright lights in a dismal weekend result
for the center, right, James, But I'll tell you the
demise of Adam band it's about as good as it gets.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah, Look, it's amazing just to see him go down
in flames. And it's so fascinating to me because you know,
this is what happens when the Greens have moved away
from their core business of being about the environment to
being all about you know, basically you know, hamas on
the Era, supporting Gaza, supporting all of these Palestinian demonstrations
in our capital cities, everybody said, including in Melbourne, which
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as you know it's pretty left wing, said they were
sick of it. Now, Adam Bank gave this speech today,
this press conference, without any questions. You know, how's that
for your openness and transparency? And he went on for
what twenty twenty five minutes in the most self indulgent
fashioned Peter, I've never seen anything like it, maybe not
since the days of Tony Windsor and Rob oakshot back
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in twenty ten, you know, just going on blaming everybody,
including almost his own voters, who he said didn't really
understand the prefer actual voting system. He even said there
was a Trump effect that heard of and tell me
how that works on the Greens. It was just an
extraordinary saying. I think it's one of those things here,
Adam Band's departure from the public stage. It has brought
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Labor and the coalition together. Everybody I know on both
sides of politics has been high fiving about this result.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Peter, you are not wrong.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
But even with this loss, and it's not just this one, obviously,
Max Channeler, Maatha and others have gone, they still don't
get it. This was the Deputy Leader Senate later marine
Ferouki today, have a listen.
Speaker 11 (19:36):
I mean, this is a narrative around gaza that some
would like to push to suit their own agenda, but
the numbers tell the real story. In multicultural and migrant
communities across the country where this was an issue, there
are Boots where the Greens have one swings of over
twenty percent, and that includes Boots in Wills and Fraser
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in Victoria. In Western and Southwestern could mean their self Wills.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Her point Karaly is that she regards gaza as one
of the big issues of the campaign. She thinks that
gaza helped them, but if you don't, if you look
at the results, Gaza did not help them. Australians rejected,
whether the Australians who vote Labor or Australians who vote
the Coalition, they rejected the Greens and their anti Semitism.
Speaker 7 (20:24):
Well, they certainly did, and I mean I guess, I
guess they shot themselves in the foot. I mean, the
Australian public actually did listen and saw what a scary
and dangerous movement the Greens have actually become, and actually
took the time and they actually voted, voted, and that's
why the three Greens have actually lost lost their seats
and they were embarking on incredibly dangerous, divisive policies that
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the Australian public, you know that they saw through it,
and I'm glad that they actually did. And I think
it's a good thing for Australia that, you know, the
three Greens have gone, because they're not the Greens that
they were in the eighties and the nineties, and it's
incredibly dangerous. They have fueled a lot of the anti
Semitism in Australia.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
They are very one eyed.
Speaker 7 (21:09):
They're not able to look objectively as to what their
policies have done and what their policies would have done
for Australia. So I think Australians do have to be
commended for not voting for the Greens. And you know,
while they might hold the balance, you know, they've got
their members in the Senate. Let's just see what ends
up happening. But I do think that Marine Feruki needs
to have a good hard look to see that, you know,
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this is actually Australia and the level of multiculturalism, the
welcoming nature that we have in this country to allow
people to come in. I mean that is the hallmark
of Australia.
Speaker 12 (21:42):
It really is.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
And I think the general public in Australia just got
fed up and just rejected the Greens and good on
them for doing it.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yes, it will be interesting to see who assumes the
leadership as we go forward with the Greens. You can
see there, we've got pictures of the Vatican. We are
assuming sometime around six thirty nine, steady sharp, there will
be another vote. And obviously, if it's black smoke, we
do not have a pope. If it is white smoke,
we do. We'll prospotheatic in the moment.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
But James, just quickly. Everything's going on now.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
In terms of the jostling between Susan Lee and Angus Taylor.
Reports today that Susan Lee is already offering jobs right
across the board. One thing that struck me as very bizarre,
and I've heard this from a number of people. Apparently
she has offered Andrew Hasty's job as the shadow Defense
Minister to the very controversial New South Wales MP Alex Hawk.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, yeah, no, and I mean if that's true. Look,
there've already been reports out here that Susan Lee was
running a very transactional campaign doing anything that she could,
promising whatever he had to do to try and get
across the line. And frankly, up until today it looked
like that was working. But I'll tell you what now,
this whole movement of Just Enterprise into the Liberal party room,
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which Sinats are absent spewing about right now, totally changes
the equation because suddenly, if you had a tailor just
in the Price campaign for that leadership, Just Enterprise brings
an awful lot of heft to that ticket, and I
think that that would change the equation in there. As
far as Susan Lay promising Andrew Hasty, who is we
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all know, one of the most qualified people in that
parliament to speak about defense issues, if not, you know,
the most qualified to give that away to Alex Hawk,
I think would just be an active sheer madness. The
only consolation prize if that happened and if she became
leader would be the fact that she would not be
the one who winds up taking the coalition the Liberals
to the next election.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
All right, well, we'll watch that closely. With that certainly
the room around tonight. Thank you both for your time.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I'll leave it there and I've just been informed at
the Vatican that voting is now underway.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
We should have a result very shortly. Let's cross now
to Rome.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
We're joined by News European correspondent Sophie Ellsworth. You are there, Sophie,
for the conclave. I'm gonna ask you some questions in
relation to British politics.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
I'm having a look there.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
You're right there in front of Saint Peter's Square. Black
smoke we saw all come up the first voting round
on the first day of the conclave. We still don't
know a decision on the second vote. We're watching that imminently.
But what's the mood there? You're in a very famous
place in Rome. What's the mood like amongst the faithful?
Speaker 13 (24:35):
Well, Peter, it's a great being here.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
It's just so much excitement.
Speaker 13 (24:38):
On the ground. Last night the crowds were mammoth here.
Saint Peter's Square was chocol block. There are over forty
thousand people here waiting to see that smoke emit from
the chimney of the Sistine Chapel. So they're now in
voting again this morning. As you mentioned, there's two rounds
of voting scheduled for this morning and if there's no
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result there. Then they go in for another two rounds
this afternoon. So the crowds are really building around Vatican City.
There's so many tourists on the ground, worshipers and pilgrims
flooding in here because the excitement is really building as
we do anxiously await the release of that white smoke.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I want to show my view as a shot of
the front runners. I picked it up the other night
and I didn't look at it and think how uncanny
it is. The last five of those front running cardinals there,
they always look like the same individual lifelot. It was
a repetition. Now, what can you tell us about some
of the favorites.
Speaker 13 (25:40):
So there's a couple that keep getting named that are
the favorites. That's the former Vatican Secretary Petro Paralon, he's
one of the front runners. And also Filipino Cardinal Lewis Tagley,
he's another favorite. But Peter, we have to remind you
there's one hundred and thirty three cardinals inside voting. There's
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a very wide field. They're from seventy countries, so it's
the most geographically diverse makeup of a conclave that the
Vatican has seen in its history. So there's some experts
here on the ground who are telling me they think
the voting could even run into next week. But it's
really anyone's guest because the field is so wide. But
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a lot of them, Peter, they don't know each other,
they've never met, they don't know their names. They're wearing
name badges in there to identify themselves. So it's very
much they're meeting each other for the first time, which
might also prove a challenge to get that majority vote
that they need to appoint a new pope.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Yeah, it's fascinating.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
We'll leave that election and we'll go to one you've
just come from. I know you've been knee deep in
the British local government elections in recent times, and look
that extraordinary result from Reform UK and an endorsement really
of Nigel Farage.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
They have taken.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Control of ten local councils, they've won two mayoral races,
and they have added a fifth MP to their ranks
in the Commons. Give us a sense of what's been
playing out in British politics, because this is sure. They
got to put not just pressure on the Conservative but
a lot of pressure on Labor.
Speaker 13 (27:25):
Well, Peter, as you know, you watch this extremely closely.
All the momentum is with Reform UK and Nigel Farage.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
He's in the.
Speaker 13 (27:32):
Media every day. He has more oxygen in the media,
I would say than the government. He is making headlines
every day. He's got the momentum behind him. There's a
lot of people in Britain who are very angry.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
With the Conservatives.
Speaker 13 (27:46):
They've lost faith in the Conservatives and they're looking for
alternative party. And a lot of voters are angry with
the Keirs Sarma's labor government. He's had a shoka of
his first almost twelve months in office, so they're looking
for an alternate and Nigel Ferrage really speaks a lot
of people's languages in terms of his messaging. His messaging
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is simple. He said things like if our legal migrants come,
we're kicking them out. Basic strategies that he's trying to
push that people are listening to and moving towards him. So, Peter,
it's four years away till the next general election. It's
a long time, but in the polls he's ahead in
some of them as the favorite to be the next
prime minister in the UK. So this is a fascinating
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space to.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Watch and look, as we learned on the weekend, Sophie,
from an opposition, you've got to do the work from
day one. So four years sounds like a long time,
but he's got to come up with an entire a
whole of government agenda and field candidates in dozens and
dozens of seats, and perhaps he didn't have there at
the last election. Well, enjoy Rome. You're there for a
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moment in history, as I say, and we'll watch it
all very closely. Thank you, Sophie. All right, quick break.
After the break, we'll talk to just sent and Nampachen proprice.
Is that huge new today she's moving to the Liberal
party room. Now that's a very interesting thing that can happen.
She's from the NT. I'll explain how that works in
a moment, plus what this might mean.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
For the Liberal leadership race.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Blockerback still the calm, I'll speak with a woman who
organized a massive protest against the Greens and New South
Wales the so called health legislation that would see religious
freedom stripped from healthcare workers and an assault on freedom
of conscience. But out of the speculation about the future
of my next guest just into Nambajimpi. Price has been
a prominent and fierce Coalition campaigner, not just to help
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defeat Labour's voice to Parliament, but also to elevate the
issues of marginalized Australians across the country. Now, in a
formal sense, Navaghip Prize is a representative of the Northern
Territories Country Liberal Party the CLP. They have a tradition
of allowing MPs to sit in either the National's Party
Room or the Liberals Party Room, depending on the lower
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House seek there in or their position on the Cenate ticket.
Now today's Nambuti Price is set with the Nationals, but
in News today that sends shock waves around Canberra she's
joining the Liberal Party Room where she intends to play
a very prominent role in the rebuild of the coalition.
And I'm delighted to say just in the Nambajipa Price
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joins me.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Now, Senator, thank you for your time.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
I tell you what you have made headlines across the
country and I think made a lot of Coalition supporters
across the country hopeful for the future in a way
we haven't been for many many days. Why the shift
and why now, well.
Speaker 14 (30:43):
I guess, Peter, this is not a decision that I've
come to lightly at all.
Speaker 12 (30:49):
It is a decision that I've thought a lot about.
Speaker 14 (30:52):
And firstly, I guess I've always felt like the Liberal
Party room is my natural home. Given you know, the
Liberal Party is the Freedom Party, the party of responsibility. Now,
given the current circumstances, I think now more than ever,
when its strong people within the.
Speaker 12 (31:12):
Liberal Party, we need to be able to rebuild.
Speaker 14 (31:15):
We need to ensure that we don't lose support broad
support as part of a wider coalition. I mean, ultimately
it is about the strength of the coalition going forward,
and I feel like I would be best placed, as
someone who is ultimately a fighter, which is what I've
said before, to support the coalition from the Liberal Party
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room as a position of strength.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Your colleague James Patterson's come out pretty quickly this afternoon.
He has put up a post he says, welcome home
to Center. Now, I know that's going to carry a
lot of weight because James Patterson's also a fighter. When
you say the Liberal Party has got to rebuild, and
I do think it's the Liberal Party, I have to say,
more so than the National Party who has held a
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lot of its ground.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
What does that look like.
Speaker 14 (32:12):
Yeah, I mean it looks like hopefully a party that
can come together in a unified way, respecting that of
course we are a broad church that we are going
to move forward with common sense and common sense policy
and take you know, be of the center. That's what
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I think it looks like going forward. And look, can
I just also say with regard to the National Party
that I'm extremely grateful for the opportunities that the National
Party has provided me under the leadership of David A
Little Proud.
Speaker 12 (32:51):
I'm extremely grateful.
Speaker 14 (32:53):
And this what I'm doing now is of course no
reflection on the National Party whatsoever. I'm very grateful for
the support of people like James Patterson. You know, I've
got some you know, wonderful friends in the Liberal Party.
And as I said, I mean, I am a team player.
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The coalition is a team. You know, I've been I
guess you know, played footy and I see it much
like footy teams. And ultimately we want to rebuild and
be strong for the benefit of the country.
Speaker 12 (33:26):
Ultimately, that is what we need to do.
Speaker 14 (33:28):
My biggest concern is under Albanesi in the next three
years the state of the country that many of us
are bracing for. So we need to be in a
strong position in three years time for a rebuild of
the country effectively.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
You know, you cut through during their Voice campaign in
a way that few others did, and I think that's
where most Australians looked at you closely and have been
saying everywhere I go, and certainly I know you've heard
it too. You need to be in a more prominent
role inside a coalition.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Is part of this move.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
A willingness for you to really step up, you know,
get beyond just Aboriginal issues, as important as they are,
but really step up to be at the forefront of
where the coalition, where the Liberal Party in this case,
takes itself and takes its policy over the next three years.
Speaker 12 (34:23):
Oh look, most definitely.
Speaker 14 (34:25):
You know, Indigenous issues are huge issues and something that
I'm very passionate about, but we need to do a
lot more across the board, across all policy areas. You know,
and as many of us know, there was a great
deal of policy work that was done before the last
election that of course didn't see the.
Speaker 12 (34:45):
Light of day either.
Speaker 14 (34:47):
So definitely I want to be part of you know,
putting forward something for the Australian people that they can
get behind, and including our values, the importance of our values,
the importance of being proud to be Australian, which I
feel like has come under attack in more recent times.
(35:08):
We want to make sure we want to instill that
pride once more what it means to be Australians. And
I think, you know, our values as a Liberal Party
as well, we need to get back to. We need
to demonstrate that that is what we are prepared to
lead with as well, which I don't think there was
enough in the lead up to the last election.
Speaker 7 (35:31):
You know.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
One of the criticisms out of the weekend as people
have stopped listening to the Liberal Party, how are you
going to be able to make them listen again?
Speaker 14 (35:43):
I mean, I think it's fairly evident that I'm not
shy to draw a line in the sand and to
be heard, and I think that's how we should all
stand proudly, you know. Despite it was an incredible defeat,
but it is a place that we from, place that
we can rebuild as a coalition going forward. And I
(36:05):
will always ensure that I'm lending my voice to the
greater good, which is to support coalition but also to
support our country and listen to the Australian people. It
is ultimately the Australian people, and I think the Nationals
party room have done a great job of being grassroots
and listening to the Australian people, espousing their values and
(36:25):
being led by them. And this is absolutely what we
need to do. We need to be that voice for
the forgotten people. As Mensies once put it, that's what
we need to do going forward as part of the
Liberal Party and the coalition, and that is how I
will certainly lend my voice in the fight going forward.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
I know my viewers will be picking up the phone
and reading their Coalation MPs tomorrow saying that you have
got to be in the front line if that happens,
just into an amperty proprice. You're willing to be drafted
into some sort of leadership role?
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Are you willing to put your hand up?
Speaker 12 (37:02):
Look, you know this has been a massive step.
Speaker 14 (37:07):
You know I will not put any limitations on myself
and ultimately, again I guess I've always been led by
the Australian people and we'll continue to do so.
Speaker 12 (37:19):
And certainly I hope.
Speaker 14 (37:20):
That all of our all of my party colleagues, both
sides we can continue to do that is to be
led by the Australian people.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
All right, we will watch with interest enter the price.
Speaker 12 (37:33):
Thank you, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
All right to get some potential names there, haven't You've
got Susan Lee, you at Angus Taylor. There's talk of
Ted O'Brien as well running for the deputy position, and
I reckon that woman might throw her hand in the
ring as well her hat in the ring. All right,
after the break, the woman who's taken up the fives
against a deplorable bill from the New South Wales Greens
of the Parliaments and breaking news there, plus Rump looks
(38:00):
set to strike an agreement with the UK on tariff.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
So could we be.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Next welcome back to to come Kevin Rudd's latest broadside
against Donald Trump. It's i'n't going to earn his friends
in the White House, but joining me now on a
totally different issue.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
We've got breaking news for you.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Here, Professor Joanna Howe, I've on my Rhodes scholar, our
law school academic. You'll know her, someone who's fought a
long and hard fight to defend the human rights of
babies born alive, following it an attempted late term abortion.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Well, she's taken another fight.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
She did the trenches again, demanding the New South Wales
premier struck up a radical bill from the Greens that
was tabled last night in the New South Wales Parliament.
As I said, it looks like she might have had
a win. Joanna, how it joins me?
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Now?
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Will Joanna more strength to your arm? What has happened?
What can you tell us now?
Speaker 15 (38:51):
I've just rushed from the chamber pete at where we
have breaking years that the first very bad thing that
this bill does has been so the bill gave a
power to the Minister for Help to order all hospitals Catholic, Christian,
any hospital in New South Wales to perform abortions and
the hospital had to comply. And so, as I said
(39:13):
at the start of March, this has the potential to
end religious freedom in our country. And because of the
showing of ten thousand people who came out last night
in the dark with their kids, you know, just ordinary
folk came out to say this cannot happen in New
South Wales. One out of the four very bad things
in this bill has already been defeated. It's going to
(39:34):
be a long night. There's a steep mountain we have
to climb. But I'm very excited and a bit emotional
actually at the fact that together we've achieved something.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Look, you've got a right to be. You have an
absolute right to be. I spoke to Tony Abat last night.
I know he went down and addressed your rally. He
said this was an assault on freedom of conscience. What
I don't understand is there are hospitals and g peak
clinics across the country that offer abortion services. So to
(40:05):
force those institutions that do not based on their religious
values is a line that Australians have never ever voted
to cross. So what's driving this agenda?
Speaker 15 (40:19):
So look, in Australia, you can get a telehealth abortion
in any postcode, in any location, and it can cost
as little as six dollars eighty to end the life
of your child, so cheaper than a milkshake. And that's
how much the federal government subsidizes abortion. And the reality
is the smoke screen that the Greens have used for
(40:39):
this bill is to say that it needs to be
accessible in rural and regional areas. Chris Means, the premiere,
during the election campaign, came out and said that this
bill will decimate the health workforce because midwives and nurses
are not going to want to do this, and he
said it's an affront to religious freedom. And in the
election campaign we saw alban Easy talking about how he'd
(41:00):
come back to the faith, crying over the death of
Pope Frances, going to Saint Mary's on Easter Sunday, he
was with the Greek Orthodox in the evening. You know,
they were courting the religious vote in Western Sydney, where
they knew those electorates voted against same sex marriage. They're
deeply conservative electorates and Labor fooled religious voters into thinking
that they would be on their site. And within one
(41:21):
day of Albanesi winning, Chris Mins did a grubby deal
with the Greens to ram this bill through the Parliament
despite all the assurances that they were going to block
this bill. So it is a massive breach of trust
from Labor. And what I think is driving this bill
is a pro abortion ideology deep within the Labor Party
(41:42):
because of Emily's List, because of that underground militia of
pro abortion women who have this as their number one
agenda item, and they've worked behind the scenes with Amandacon,
who's an abortionist in the Greens, who's leading this bill
in the Parliament. And what they want to see is
an ideology where none of us can dissent. You and I, Peter,
or any ordinary Australian or any ordinary health worker who
(42:03):
doesn't want to do abortions, doesn't want to perform abortions,
believes that abortion ends the life of an innocent, vulnerable child. Indeed,
our youngest Australians. The Greens and pro abortion labor want
to make sure that we went allowed to think that,
we're not allowed to believe that, we're not allowed to
act on that.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
And of course I made the point last night.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Once you extend it into abortion, you're extending it into euthanasia.
There will be no line that's available to any health
worker or any worker to exercise their conscience. Just quickly,
I'm almost out of time. You mentioned four elements of
the bill. You defeated one. What are the other three?
Speaker 15 (42:41):
Look the second aspect of the bill removes all hard
to keeping requirements on abortion, just essentially pushes it underground.
The third element forces doctors to be involved in abortion,
that to actively transfer, which makes them morally complicit. And
the fourth element, which is the one I'm most worried about,
because my sources tell me that this is the one
(43:02):
that Chris Mins and Labor want to push through, is
the ability to turn nurses and midwives into abortionness. If
this passes, this will make it even easier to end
the lives of innocent babies in this state. And if
it does pass, my message in New South Wales Labor
is we know what you've done. We see through you
and the ten thousand people that were there tonight last night.
(43:23):
We are passionate over the next twenty months of making
sure that you do not form government again in March
twenty twenty seven. We have long memories and we want
all of this bill to be gutted. It has no
place in a democratic country like Australia.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Joanna how thank you for that, and thank you for
the synopsis there or the simple understanding of what was
promised prior to the election, as you say to court,
the vote in parts of the country that Labor needed
to win and where.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
We are now tonight.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Thank you for joining us, and well done at least
on getting that bit changed. Hey, look, some really sad
news this afternoon before we go to the break. I'm
a liberal MP, doctor Katie Allen. She of course ran
as a candidate in the set of Chisholm wasn't successful.
She has announced very sadly tonight that she has been
diagnosed with a rare form of cancer. She says it
(44:12):
is stage four and it has already spread. She says,
as a doctor, I've stood beside many patients and their
families in moments like this. I've seen an incredible courage,
in dignity and strength, and I feel the meense gratitude
for the life I've led. Now I face a very
different challenge, but I will meet it with the same
qualities that have always guided me. Well, Dr Allen, to
(44:34):
you and your family, the whole Sky News family. We
wish you all the very best in the tough times ahead.
All right, after the break, what would a US takeover
of Gaza look like? The Prime Minister, sorry, the President
of the United States is on his way to the
Middle East. We'll talk about that and Kevin Rude's latest
swipe at Donald Trump. What's it mean for our tariff negotiations.
(45:00):
Welcome back our international rap happens on a Thursday of
joined down to do that with Skyne his contributed kosher guard,
a former labor and p Michael Daanmi. We'll get to
the stuff in a moment, Michael. But just very quickly
confirmation that Mark Dreyfuss has now been dumped by the
New Southwest Sorry, the Victorian Labor Right.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
He will not make the cabinet. Is that correct?
Speaker 4 (45:20):
Yes?
Speaker 16 (45:21):
He lost full ballots fifteen to one. Wow, And I
feel very sorry for him. He started so brightly in politics.
He seems to have lost all of his friends. I
haven't seen him since his very lovely wife died, but
you know, he's made a lot of mistakes in personal
relationships in politics.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Right, I won'll see what happens there. Hey, what's going
on with Donald Trump and Kevin Right and tariffs? Because
Kevin Right, you know, we obviously need a seat at
the table. We need to renegotiate these tariffs. And it
looks like Kevin Ryd has as ridiculed.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
Am I right?
Speaker 17 (45:54):
He was at some conference in Los Angeles and ridiculed
the film Tariff, leaving Blue into it to sort of
make a point and the Penguin Island thing. There's a
love lost between those two. He's been rather blunt in
his descriptions about Trump in the past. Trump has returned fire,
I know, but.
Speaker 16 (46:10):
He's meant to be our representative.
Speaker 17 (46:12):
That's terrible, I know, and he seems to continue with
that formula. I think ultimately what it will come down
it doesn't help. And if Trump really makes an issue
about that, I think primaries Albanezie will have a problem
on his hands. But I think for now, ultimately what
Trump wants is a term sheet that's feverable and that
we can all agree to, And if that happens, I
think he'll overlook the comments. But it's certainly not helpful that.
Speaker 16 (46:32):
Donald should should concentrate on stopping Hollywood producing woke movies
like the recent one of Was It Sleeping Beauty? That
was terrible? Can by everyone make better movies?
Speaker 3 (46:43):
Movie that has failed the box office? Yeah, go, won't
go broke?
Speaker 2 (46:48):
And that ultimately will drive the change the President's off
to the Middle East. But it's a bit of a well,
it is a tinder box anyway, but it's getting worse
at the moment.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
What's going on with.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
The Hooties and he run there's there's a real power
play here.
Speaker 16 (47:01):
There's only the President announced that there's only twenty one
hostages left alive out of the fifty nine, so they're
slowly torturing or killing them. The President declared the unilateral
ceasefire at a press conference with the Prime Minister of
Canada with the Hooties. He didn't tell the Israelis, who
were his close allies.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
And in the.
Speaker 16 (47:21):
Meantime, the Uranians had a terrorist group in the UK
four hours from being doing their operation, and in the
President didn't seem to know it his press conference that
the Hooties had just attacked Tel Aviv Airport. Now it's
all one hydra headed monster that both they and the
(47:42):
Israelis are going to have to decide what is done
with the head of the monster. And the president, you know,
forget the issue just of nuclear he has to deal
with the issue of these crazy people shooting off missiles
and running international terrorist incidents.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
Can he do it?
Speaker 17 (47:59):
I think it's going to be very tricky this issue.
And President Trump boss is feecing a lot of pressure
from his beast not get too mired and not get
involved militarily. People are very tired of that. So he's
balancing that with the shipping lean constraint and the broader
issue around Israel.
Speaker 16 (48:13):
So the public opinion polls show that a lot of
Republicans do not support his foreign policy options, either with
Ukraine or with Israel, et cetera. Now Israel is getting
more unpopular in American public opinion. That's true. But you
know this is to declare a hood, that's what you
call it in Arabic, a temporary ceasefire, while not looking
(48:36):
at what they're doing in the rest of the world.
Steve Whitcoff, I don't know. He may be good at
real estate, but this is not a great negotiator, if
you ask.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
Me, I got to go.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
Well done to you too for all your work in
seeing off Adam Bant. I know working with many behind
the scenes. Thanks for it takes to both of you.
But well done to you. Michael Dambi.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
That's it for me. See you all next week Monday
at six.
Speaker 12 (48:58):
He is Andrew
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