June 27, 2025 • 44 mins
Hey lady! You know we couldn’t end June without getting our groove on to celebrate Black Music month! June is the official month for the songs that have enriched our lives in times of sorrow and joy. Black music has been monumental as a soundtrack for many of the liberation movements for our people and as endearing as spending a Saturday morning helping your mom clean up the house. So, this week Terri and Dr. Dom talk about the beauty of Black music and the way music can transport you to spaces where your imagination can run free, your heart can find comfort, and your feet catch the beat. Spaces where you can mourn the breakup and relationship, the loss of a loved one, or the loss of self. Black people have used our music to keep us moving forward, overcoming and thriving and that is worthy of celebrating!
Listen all the way through for a fun challenge Dr. Dom and Terri have for you and then join us on Instagram and give us your answer. We’re so looking forward to creating a Black music playlist with our community!
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“Through every generation, Black music has been our healing, our protest, and our celebration all at once.”
– Unknown
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Listen all the way through for a fun challenge Dr. Dom and Terri have for you and then join us on Instagram and give us your answer. We’re so looking forward to creating a Black music playlist with our community!
Quote of the Day:
“Through every generation, Black music has been our healing, our protest, and our celebration all at once.”
– Unknown
Goal Map Like a Pro Workbook
Cultivating H.E.R. Space Sanctuary
Resources:
Dr. Dom’s Therapy Practice
Branding with Terri
Melanin and Mental Health
Therapy for Black Girls
Psychology Today
Therapy for QPOC
Where to find us:
Twitter: @HERspacepodcast
Instagram: @herspacepodcast
Facebook: @herspacepodcast
Website: cultivatingherspace.com
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
On this week's episode of Cultivating her Space. It's really
how we survive. Sometimes you may not have had someone
to talk to you, so you put on that Mary J. Blige,
you put on that neo. You put on that you know,
I don't know. It may have been Michael Jackson. You
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Speaker 2 (01:58):
Our quote of the day. Through every generation, black music
has been our healing, our protest, and our celebration, all
at once. I'm gonna say that one more time for
the folks in the back to make sure you felt it.
Through every generation, black music has been our healing, our protest,
(02:24):
and our celebration all at once. All right, t you
know how we do when you hear that quote and
you think about our conversation for today, what comes up
for you?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Oh so much? Okay? I think first, I'm thinking about
the healing aspect. Black music has been our healing. I
just think about how music for us, our music is
so soulful, and I feel like a lot of times
we have probably all had the experience of music helping
us process pain or trauma or our breakup. Okay, I
(03:00):
remember girl, you remember that song by Neo So Sick, Yes,
So Sick Love. I think about songs like that, or
even like Mary J. Blige, where you are going through
a tough breakup and you just got that song I'll
repeat you at home, ugly crying by yourself, like it
can be very healing. But they're also right, and it
can also it can also be a celebration, right. I
(03:22):
think about gospel music, I think about uplifting music, and
then sometimes it's for our protests. There are some examples.
I'm thinking, I can't think of any right at this moment,
but I think that black music for us can just
be so so powerful and it can transcend time generations.
I mean, some music we're going to share today is
from like decades ago, but it still hits right. So
(03:45):
that's what that's what I think about. When I heard
this quote what about you, Dom.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, when I hear this quote, I think of something similar,
right of that music has been around for centuries. This
isn't this isn't new for us, particularly folks of the
African diaspora. Right, this is not new for us. And
(04:15):
the beautiful thing about music is how it evolves over time.
And I think about it as I was choosing my
songs for today that we're going to talk about today,
how most of those songs, all of the yeah, the
majority of the songs that I chose are all younger
(04:36):
than me, so they came out after I was born.
But there's but one of the songs that I chose
came out before I was born, but they've been there
have been remakes since. And in thinking about how there
are some songs that become so timeless that people remake them,
(05:00):
but the original still hits, right, oh yeah. Or there's
certain songs where nobody is gonna touch it. You just
know you're not touching this, you're not sampling it. You
will leave this piece of classic music alone. And I
(05:23):
also just think about, like just in general, how certain
songs will bring you back to a particular place and
moment in time, and other songs will make you forget
all the things like just so I just think about
all the emotions that come up with music, and then
(05:45):
I also think about just the psychological benefits of music
that there are sometimes when you are feeling down and
you play particular songs because you want to stay in
that space, but there are songs that you might play
when you want to come up from that space. Then
(06:09):
there's the songs that bring you into that angry space
because the music just needs to. You need something that's
gonna speak for you, that can communicate your feelings in
a way that you can't. And then also just thinking
about how listening to certain songs when you start moving
(06:31):
your body to it, how that can be healing. And so, yeah,
music is just a beautiful thing, and black music in particular.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Listen, you said that so beautifully Tom and I as
you were sharing, and made me think about all the
songs I wish I would have added to my list,
because y'all, we're gonna tell you about what we're gonna
do it just a bit. But when you said a
song that makes you feel angry made me think about
Calise YEA literally had a flashback to that, and I'm like, girl,
(07:00):
I think about Michael Jackson and all the greats. But lady, Okay,
here's what we're gonna do. Okay, there is a lot
going on in the world right now, and today we
want to just share a lighthearted episode to bring some light,
some joy, and a whole lot of black music magic
into your ears, even though we can't play the songs
and you may have been out hear a singer rapping
(07:21):
a little some something, right, don't.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I don't know about me, but yep, yep, yep, yep,
we're here for it.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
We're here for right. But June it's Black Music Month,
and what better way to celebrate than taking a trip
down memory lane? Okay, so get ready to be interactive
with this episode.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Okay, yes, yes, So today Terry and I each are
gonna share five songs from various stages in our life.
And these are songs that truly live, rent free in
our hearts and minds. Because as we were talking about
(08:01):
this episode, immediately at least three popped into my mind
right like right away, and they were very diverse. Right, So,
our songs today cross multiple genres. So we got a
little gospel, a little R and B, some hip hop,
(08:21):
some holidays stuff, We have a variety of black music
here for you to help you think about black joy,
our overall, just healing and being in community and some
(08:44):
really dope memories. As we talk about these songs.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Has and I'm going to add in our brilliance because
i think this also illustrates the talent, the creativity, and
the innovation that black people just exude. Okay, So as
we share, we want you to reflect on your songs. Right,
what are your top five? Not even top five, because
I think it's just difficult to say top five. These
are just five songs that came to mind to us first,
and so feel free to hit us up on Instagram
(09:09):
at her Space podcast and you can tag us and
let us know which ones take you back. So we'll
add up square on our Instagram with a music symbol,
so that way you know exactly where to go when
you come to our Instagram. Okay, So before we jump
to these songs, we go and jump into them just
a bit. We just want to kind of dive in
a bit deeper and talk about the importance of this
episode for us. And I would say that when it
(09:29):
comes to Black Music Month in particular, it's personal to
us for some of the reasons we share before, right,
so many, For so many of us, music isn't just
background noise. It's really how we survive. Sometimes you may
not have had someone to talk to, so you put
on that Mary J. Blige, you put on that Neil,
you put on that you know, I don't know, it
might have been Michael Jackson. You put something on so
that you could feel connected. And sometimes that music can
(09:52):
give us words that we may not even have ourselves,
and it can put the feelings that we have into words.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
It's how some of us process what we were going
going through, even when again we couldn't find the words ourselves.
And so I think, like you said in the beginning time,
it can also be very healing for us, right.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yes, And I think you know, for most of us, Yeah,
and I say most of us. But like most of
us that grew up in a black household, music was
always there. Somebody was always playing something. Now we're not
gonna talk about whether or not it was something you
wanted to hear, okay, because I mean, all right, we're
(10:32):
gonna talk about it.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
So, how many of you can think back to being
in your parents' home or another family member's home and
you thinking about the music that you wanted to hear,
because more than likely you wanted to hear what was
playing on the radio at that time the current hits right,
(10:58):
and your mama, your daddy, your auntie, your grandmama, they
were playing some blues. Maybe you grew up in a
household where all they played was gospel, or your household
your parents were like, nah, not in this house. We
listened to classical music. We listened to opa, we listened
(11:20):
to jazz. That's what you're gonna get, right. But what
chances are if you grew up in a black household,
you grew up with some level of black music. Right.
I can recall personally Saturday mornings when we're up, my
(11:40):
mom would get us up and it was time to
clean up the house. My mom, right, My mom was
a die hard Prince fan. Oh, so we grew up
listening to Prince Now as a child, that was one
of the things that I was like, man, for real,
were listening to this again? But you know some of
(12:00):
the songs.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
I knew all the inappropriate words to some of the
songs that aren't as well known.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I'm not, you know, just because we don't want to
be censored. I'm not gonna say some of those words,
but you get the hint of a few five letter words,
you know. And that's what we were listening to on
Saturday mornings. Sundays it was probably Al Green, Bill Withers,
Oldis Redding, the Commodores, like the Isley Brothers, Earth Wind
(12:31):
and Fire. And as a child, I was like, no, man,
where's Janet Jackson, Where's Michael Jackson? Give me some Whitneys,
some Mariah, you know. But literally, now, as an adult,
I have my what I call my Sunday Old Man
Group's playlists, where I am listening to Isley Brothers, Marvin Gaye,
(12:57):
Al Green as I'm going through my Sunday and so.
And as I listen to those songs, it takes me
back to happier times, right. It takes me back to
points in childhood that feel that feel good. Now, don't
(13:20):
get me wrong, there were points in childhood that weren't
always happy. But when I'm listening to that music, it
takes me back to those happier, joyful, more celebratory times
in life. So as we, lady, as you're listening, think
about those songs that bring back memories for you, right,
(13:45):
think about the songs that allow you to think about
when you were cleaning up on Saturday morning having to
do those chores right, or getting ready for church on Sunday,
or maybe you had a playlist that you listen to
(14:05):
before get going to school in the morning, whatever it is,
think about those songs that hold special places in your heart.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yes, Tom, I love that so much. You have me
reflecting back literally, like having flashbacks of being in my
grandmother's house with breakfast cooking in the morning and the
gospel music playing on a big, big as stereo we
had at her home. But girl, you know what's funny
too when we have this conversation. One thing to keep
in mind is like we are women of a particular age. Okay,
(14:35):
So music was also not as accessible as it is today.
I remember having my Walkman, and also I ended up
having a CD player and then I would have to
don't tell nobody, y'all. Okay, get ready for this one.
All right. I've been a techie for a long time.
I used to be the person that would burn the
CDs for my friends. I'd be on line wire may
or may not have been online wire, Okay, I don't
(14:56):
know about the stats. Maybe napster, you know, download the music,
creating a little playlist, writing with the marker on the
CDs and all that. Yeah, So I remember I used
to love watching one on six in Parks because you
have the video of countdowns. But we couldn't just go
to YouTube or go to you know, a website and
listen to our favorite song. We had to wait for
it to come on the radio and I'll record it
(15:18):
if I could, And so it was also a privilege.
It was really an experience, like waiting for the music
videos to come out and all that. So that just
kind of should give you like a bit of context
for what we're about to share today, because I feel
like that is it's it makes it different, right, It's
not like today where you can just look up whatever
song and listen to it for free. We had a process.
So what we're gonna do late Okay, great, I.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Mean as you're saying that, that has me thinking back
to like it was important when an album had.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
A release date.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Yeah, it was important to know that release date so
that you could get to the store to buy that
album right, whether lineup, whether it was the CD, the
cassette tape or the actual record, right, and so records
I know are now back in style and popular. But
(16:13):
at a certain time period late eighties through the early
two thousands, people weren't People weren't using records unless you
were like an actual DJ. By late eighties, early two thousands,
it was cassette tapes and CDs like you mentioned. And yeah,
(16:37):
and so times truly have changed, as you said, as
you had mentioned that, times truly have changed in how
we take in our music. And so some of that
also plays a role in what might be your favorite,
what might bring up memories, and some of the songs
(16:58):
that we may name might not be songs that you know.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
All right, shall we dive on in? You want to
go first with your songs and kind of give us
the overview.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Oooh okay, all right, I'm gonna give you one. Let's
let's let's we'll go back and forth. Yeah, and lady,
as you're listening, know that Terry and I have not
shared our songs with each other yet. So if you
there may be some overlap, we don't know. We're gonna see.
All right, let's let's go down this musical this musical
(17:30):
journey so I think I will go in chronological order
from when the song was released, So I'll go from
the oldest song to the most recent. So my first
song was released in nineteen seventy. This is a holiday
song and it is one of my It is my
(17:54):
all time favorite holiday song ever in life. And I
only will listen to this verse or only like this version.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
It is Donnie Hathaway's This Christmas. It is not the
holidays season until I hear Donnie Hathaway singing This Christmas.
Until we hear that qan and I hear like hang
all the Mistletoe, until I hear that, it is not
(18:24):
the holiday season. I love that, Yes it is. I
mean for me, it makes the holidays feel so special.
And then it makes me think about all the holiday
music that I would listen to as a child. But
and this wasn't one of my mom's like top songs
(18:45):
that she would play for us. But this was one
of my top and still remains like the ultimate holiday song.
And this was one that I was saying that has
been remade multiple times, and no disrespect to the people
that have remade it, but this is it. This is
the only one that I get that I.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Rock with That's a good one. Dom. Do you want
to share a favorite lyric? Not singing, of course, but
just like, is there a certain part of the song,
like this is my part right here?
Speaker 2 (19:15):
There isn't no no, the whole song? One is the
whole song? Like, yeah, it's the whole. As I was
glancing over the lyrics, there's not a lyric that like that,
I'm like, oh, this this one stands out. It's the
entire song.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
For me, I feel you. I feel like for some
of my songs there's a certain part, but this is
the kind of song where it's like, you got to
take the whole song. I'm with you. That was a
good choice. Okay, let me share the song that I
put on my list, the first one here. This song
is called Stump by Kirk Frankly Featrick Guy.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yes, you said gospel, I kind of.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Knew, okay, girl. So this song came out in nineteen
ninety seven, and I chose this because I feel like
this was the church hit that made gospel music and
made gospel for like a party, like he gave us
permission to praise and you could dance to a little
bounce at a little shoulder in my household. To give
you context, like we were only allowed to listen to
gospel music. We were not allowed to listen to secular music.
(20:16):
So I had to pretty much sneak any other music
that I wanted to listen to. But this is something
my parents would play in the car often. My dad
would have this song. We you know, listened to it
in church, and my favorite part is the iconic opener. Okay,
So if y'all know the song, say it with me,
all right. For those of you who think the gospel
music has gone too far, you think we've gotten too
(20:37):
radical with our message, all I got news for you.
You ain't heard nothing yet. And if you don't know,
now you know Glover Gloray. Yes, that is classic, y'all. Okay,
you will have to let us know in the comments
if you remember the song growing up. But yeah, it's
a classic. And I would say today, dom it still
hits like I still listened to it in the car.
(20:58):
I introduced my daughter to it and now she said
it as well. And I would say that the funnier
personal story that ties back to this song is that
my very first concert I ever went to was a
Kirk Franklin concert. My dad took my sister and I
when we were as it had to be between the
ages of like seven and ten, maybe, yeah, So we
took us to the concert and we had a ball.
(21:18):
So that is song number one. Oh my list.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Okay, all right, girl, what you got?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
What you got?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
All right? So my second song is one that people
probably don't know much about, but I want you to
ask for I name it. I want you to go
in and google it. So this song was released in
nineteen eighty eight and it is called Congratulations by Vesta Williams.
(21:54):
And this song is probably one of the saddest love
songs ever.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Okay, and to really get the feel for it, you've
got to watch the video. The video for this song
is like if you feel her emotions, oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
And so now let me just share.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Okay, were you going down? I'm so excited. I think
I know what you're gonna say. M h.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
First of all, well, six years old when this song
came out. Okay, let's be clear. And this was six
years old when this when this one came out. So
at six years old, what do what do I? What
do I know about a broken heart?
Speaker 4 (22:59):
What do I know about a relationship at six?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
But this song would come on the radio, and it
particularly was coming on the radio in the morning as
we were getting ready for school. And I remember being
six and knowing because on the radio like they would
tell you you want to hear a song like call in,
(23:27):
and they gave you the number to call in. And
so I remember almost every morning, and I don't know
now that I'm reflecting back, I don't know how my
mom never caught me.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
But every morning it wasn't I wasn't sneaking, So I
don't know how she never saw it. But every morning
I would call to ask the DJ to play Congratulations.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Imagine a little six year old me and I just
felt it for this woman and and maybe that.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Was like, you know, a song foreshadowing. Yes, man, I
would that I would be this person who had who's
able to feel for other people, who has this level
of empathy, And so yeah, Congratulations by Vesta Williams.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Is that is my number two?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Don When you said the name of the song, I
was like, wait, I feel like Dom told a story
about this before. So I looked it up when you
were talking and I saw it and I was like,
this is the song that she called up to the
radio station that you were six years old. I would
pay money to hear that audio, a little Doctor Dominique Blue, Sorry,
excuse me, that is the cutest thing ever.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I do want to hear that audio too.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Beyond your years. That is like a wow. Okay. So
the second song on my list is So Anxious by Genuine.
This is on the one hundred percent Genuine album released
in nineteen ninety nine. And this was one of those
grown songs that I had no business singing, Okay, but
(25:10):
I knew every word, and the one Genuine album was on.
I'm gonna say air quotes repeat for me, right. I
love that album so much, and let me let's go
over the lyrics. Y'all. Okay, y'all already know where we're going?
You ready? You can at least my other with me? Okay?
You ready? You already know what I'm gonna say. All right,
here we go. It's nine o'clock. Oh my lord, Hey,
(25:34):
j Whisha, is you okay? Real quick? I feel like
I sound like Young Miami when young I don't know
if you've heard Young Miami singing online, but she's singing
she was singing lyrics and I think I'm gonna regret
trying to sing and rap these songs. But it's all good, y'all.
It's the vibe when when you come over my place,
okay after a while through Wow, that was the song.
(25:57):
And I feel like this was one of those classic
slow jams. And when I think about the memory behind it,
my dad, his girlfriend whenever I would come visit them
in California when I was younger, his girlfriend. I guess
you loved her from Genuine because we were always be
listening to Genuine and those genes, Genuine differences all that girl,
and I knew all the words. Now I loved it,
and I'd be in the backseat while she's driving. I'd
(26:19):
be grooving, like I knew. I didn't know what was
going on in them songs, but I do now. So
that's song number two for me.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
It is, you know, when I think about some of
the songs that we had no business singing as youngsters,
like yeah, and it was like when you really think
about what they were talking about and not even have
as a kid, not really having any clue to what
it was that you were singing about, and yet so
(26:52):
like yeah, for me now as an adult, there's certain
songs that I listened to and I'm.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Like, well, damn wait, okay, okay, I did not need
to I clearly had no clue.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
And there are some songs today that I truly am
like I was today years old when I understood what
they were.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Singing about that part today years old? Yes, oh child,
yeah all right.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
So my third song is not one of those songs.
My third song is a song that I wholeheartedly knew
what it meant at the time. I had not experienced this,
but I knew what it meant at the time that
the song was released. So my third song came out
(27:50):
in nineteen ninety six, and this was off of this
artist's first album. So the song is Whenever, Wherever Whatever
by Maxwell and Lady. If you know me, you know
that Maxwell is my favorite artist and I and I
(28:13):
fell in love with Maxwell from that very first album.
This song is probably like my number one all time
favorite song ever in life because to me, I'm a
I'm an R and B girly, I'm a romance. I
love love and this song to me like just speaks
(28:39):
about love like Whenever, Wherever, whatever, right, and some of
it does seem a little sad because it is like,
wish I knew I could be the one that you
would love forever in a day, right, But basically he's
saying that if there's anything that you need for you
(29:04):
and your blood, I would bleed like so basically, I'm
there for you girl. I got you, girl. Like that
to me, ultimate ultimate love song. And so yeah, even
though in nineteen ninety six, I did not know, fourteen
year old me did not had not experienced love, I
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felt it in my soul and it will. Yes, this
one will always be my number one. It's gonna take
a lot, it would take a whole lot to top
this song.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
For me.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
I'm gonna have to go revisit that one down. That
was a good one. I like it. I like it, Okay,
I like the setup you did there too. So number
three for me is going to be a song from
two thousand and three and the song is get Ready
You're ready should have known better by Monica that song
on video. I love that song so much and I
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was singing all the words and I feel like this
was that emotional I was loyal to you anthem right.
Monica was always like a great emotional outlet and I'm
not going to sing this part because I can't hit.
I'm not going to hit the note and I don't
want to, you know, mess up y'all ears. But the
part that I liked was why I never left you
and why I kept it real and why I'm still
(30:24):
with you. I won't leave it there, I I go.
I tried to hard, y'all, And I feel like this
was like a many, a many heartbreak. I don't know,
she was like a many heartbreak counselor in some ways,
you know, even though I didn't have a heartbreak, and
this was probably dedicated to some imaginary relationship because sometimes
you just like you said, you feel that song, I'm like, yeah,
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why you? Why you do me wrong?
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Like that?
Speaker 1 (30:48):
It's like I ain't. I don't know what did I
ain't didn't nobody know what's going on. But it was
one of the songs. So yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Okay, Yes, Monica, you're right on course, I don't about
that about Monica likes speaking to what women were going through,
because I even think about from the bet her very
first song, just one of them.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
Days right like ye, yes, yes, so and so okay,
so my my next song exited.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
So first of all, let me just say that if
you don't know, if you have never listened to a
podcast episode, I am from New Orleans. New Orleans has
amazing artists, right, so I mean from multiple genres of music.
(31:43):
Right We have like Louis Armstrong and the Marsalis Brothers
with jazz, and we have Mahela Jackson with with gospel.
More recently, we got like Tanking the Bengals in Big Freedom. Well,
you know this song was released in nineteen ninety eight
(32:05):
to New Orleans, but it's for everybody else cash Money
Record taking over for the nine nine into two thousand.
That's right, back that ass up, is Yes, it's number
four on my list because yeah, you hear that and
you just immediately need to get your body moving. You
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need to twerk, You need to back that ass up,
right Like universally, black women everywhere hear it and they
just know it's time to dance.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I got to shake. So yes, yes, that was a
good choice. I'm glad that you chose that one, oh,
because I didn't have that on my list. But that
is a classic right there. Even if you don't know
how to talk, because I know some of us, you
know our twork and is it to happen? Sometimes it's questionable,
But you got to move a little something when you
hear that song. So that was a good one. My
(33:00):
next one, I feel like the theme with mine, like
they're like singables or wrappabules. I like to be able
to spit some bars or like sing some you know,
sing the words when I'm listening. And so this next one, y'all,
is two thousand and five and the song is Candy
Shop and I Love my fifty. I was loving twenty
more questions and all the stuff everything for thesecent was
(33:20):
dropping in the club all that, and so I feel
like everyone in school was singing. This one had a
nice little beat to it. I didn't know about all
the stuff he was saying in it, because the part
that I liked was where he was like, don let
me know if you remember this part He said, you
can have it your way? How do you want it?
You going back that thing? Should I push your phone
(33:41):
into puture rise? And okay, that's hot, Okay, cool lot
from hig grown and I was grown, very grown. Okay,
it's getting very much grown. I was singing all the words,
but I didn't really. I don't think I really listened
to them and understood like exactly what everything was, you know,
what they were talking about. But this still hits today.
I would definitely sing this at karaoke. Yeah, so this
would this would be the one. This is definitely one
(34:02):
of the songs I was burning on the CDs and
sneaking to listen to because I wasn't allowed to. And yeah,
that is my song number four.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Okay, okay, all right, well since we're still it seems
like we're still in this hip hop rap errm. All
right now my number five, I'm gonna bring in more currents.
And my number five was actually released in twenty twenty.
(34:30):
Oh so I'm I'm skipping a couple of decades here, right,
I went from ninety eight to twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yes, And it's so funny now as I'm thinking about it,
like I'm thinking about all kinds of other songs that
I could have tossed in in between ninety eight and
that in twenty twenty. But but nevertheless, here we are
and my number five Savage remix by Meg thee Stallion
(35:01):
and Beyonce. That is my number five Cuz I'm classy
I'm bougie, I'm ratchet. Listen, I'm sassy, I'm moody, I'm nasty.
M h I am all of those things and more. Yes,
And when this song came out, I just felt like
(35:24):
I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, this song kind of
I feel this like and this is actually this song
is actually on my morning playlist. It's the last song
on my morning playlist because it's like, all right, now
you're ready to go. You are ready to tackle your day.
Now that you are reminded that you are a savage.
(35:44):
You got this. Go on and handle your business.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Girl. Listen, you reminded of who you are. I love that.
It's a great song to have on the playlist. That
was a good one, And there are so many songs
that we could have shared, y'all. This is definitely not
a top five I want to reiterate that, but just
songs that came to mind as we thought about this
episode topic. And so my number five is a song
that came out in two thousand and five, and this
(36:09):
was just such a great I fought the two thousands
in my opinion, because that's the era that I really
grew up in. I looked the two thousands. That's some
good music, right that ninety nine two thousands era. That
was just ooh, so this song right here, y'all is
grind on me pretty ricky, Okay, grind on me pretty ricky.
It was like the summertime. It was like an anthem.
(36:29):
And I remember listening to this song and I actually
I think I had a chirp I had a Nextel
chirp phone back then, and I believe I had this
as my ringtone. And I remember my dad he was like,
take that song. He was so pissed. He's like, take
that song. You need to choose another song. You can't
have that. And I was like, damn you grand from
(36:50):
my style? Why are he so extra? And now as
an adult, I'm like, I'd be damn if my teenager
tried to come up in this house with a song
like that as her ringtone. Absolutely not. That was too
damn much. And the thing is too with some of
these songs. I was listening to the radio version, and
for mem I was today years old for many of
them when I actually realized, oh that's what they were saying.
(37:13):
I see why, you know, I think on that radio, yeah,
this was they had a clean er it was still
a lot, but it was a version for this and
it was the song. I loved their whole album. What
was it called was the Blue Stars or I don't know.
They had a lot of freaky songs on the album,
and I think the album still hits to this day,
Like I still listened to it. So is it classics?
Speaker 2 (37:31):
I love that? So I you know, as I'm reflecting,
I want to throw in a couple of honorable mentions.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Yes, great, that's right. Yes.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
So, as I was thinking of Savage like what it may,
it made me think about one of my nieces who
in twenty twenty when the song came out, like because
I was always listening to it, she knew that that
was like she just claimed that that was my song
and so she would know to like play it for me.
And then it made me think about my Elvis niece
(38:07):
and in two thousand three, hold on, let me let
me find it for real. In two thousand and three,
there was a song that came out, Oh no, I'm
sorry it was two thousand and six. Huh okay, so
(38:30):
I thought it was two thousand and three, but Bossy
by Calice, Yes, and my niece knew This was back
when people actually played CDs in their car. She was
she knew how to find it on the CD player
in the car, and she would always go to that
(38:53):
particular song. Yes, And I was like, well, that's fitting,
that's that's that was in that stage of life. That's
I was embodying that I was bossy, and so it
makes me think about it. So I thought about that
one and then another one that that I really liked.
Every Time I Close my Eyes by Baby Bace. That
(39:16):
song was like an ultimate like wedding song, and like
I remember when it came out, like having multiple people
knowing multiple people who were like putting that on their
like wedding album playlists.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Yes, those are so good. Dumb and bossy. I remember,
I think I was in high school that came out,
and I remember everybody loved that song. I'm thinking about
the intro, which is where it's like doing like that. Yes,
I'm gonna give a couple of honorable mentions, but again
I feel I wish we could do a whole long list,
but I'm just gonna talk about the most the ones
(39:55):
that come to mind right now. One is a Jay
Holliday bed that came out when I was in a
freshman in college, and I feel like that was that
was like the song of my freshman year. So whenever
I hear that song. I heard it in the car
the other day and I was like, oh my gosh,
it reminds me of what I used to drive back
home from college and like have that blasting in the
(40:16):
cars driving up seventy six or ninety five, like going
back home. So I would say that one, and then
I have to say Michael Jackson song, y'all, Billy Jean,
I mean the real little all Michael Jackson. I mean,
we would play Michael Jackson and all my siblings would
be dancing in the house to his music, trying to
moon walk and through all the dances. So Michael Jackson
(40:37):
is a classic for sure. And then I got to
give another gospel song, and It's gonna be No Weapon
by Fred Hammond. I just grew up in the gospel household,
so all the gospel music we just we listened to
it all and that was one of the That was
another favorite. So that's my little list there, lady.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
As you can see, it was easy for us to
like start generating all these other We tossed in real
quick a couple of hon't re mentions.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
And there are so many more songs that we could name,
Like we could have a playlist, give you all a
playlist for all kinds of different moods and reasons and seasons.
And yeah, but it just speaks to that going back
(41:27):
to our quote of the day, right that like black
music truly is about our healing, our protests and our celebration.
And so, lady, as you're listening, think about the songs
that resonate the most with you and come up with
(41:48):
a few playlists. You know, I mentioned having I have
a morning playlist, and my morning playlist is very diverse.
I you know, I mentioned having my what I called
my old Man Groove Sunday playlist. And think about all
the music that you like and why it means so
(42:11):
much to you. Like remember to not just let it play,
think about why those particular songs are the songs that
are important to you, the songs that you put on repeat.
And then be sure to go to our Instagram and
give us your top five in the comment section.
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Our quote of the day. Through every generation, black music
has been our healing, our protest, and our celebration, all
at once. I'm gonna say that one more time for
the folks in the back to make sure you felt it.
Through every generation, black music has been our healing, our protest,
(02:24):
and our celebration all at once. All right, t you
know how we do when you hear that quote and
you think about our conversation for today, what comes up
for you?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Oh so much? Okay? I think first, I'm thinking about
the healing aspect. Black music has been our healing. I
just think about how music for us, our music is
so soulful, and I feel like a lot of times
we have probably all had the experience of music helping
us process pain or trauma or our breakup. Okay, I
(03:00):
remember girl, you remember that song by Neo So Sick, Yes,
So Sick Love. I think about songs like that, or
even like Mary J. Blige, where you are going through
a tough breakup and you just got that song I'll
repeat you at home, ugly crying by yourself, like it
can be very healing. But they're also right, and it
can also it can also be a celebration, right. I
(03:22):
think about gospel music, I think about uplifting music, and
then sometimes it's for our protests. There are some examples.
I'm thinking, I can't think of any right at this moment,
but I think that black music for us can just
be so so powerful and it can transcend time generations.
I mean, some music we're going to share today is
from like decades ago, but it still hits right. So
(03:45):
that's what that's what I think about. When I heard
this quote what about you, Dom.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, when I hear this quote, I think of something similar,
right of that music has been around for centuries. This
isn't this isn't new for us, particularly folks of the
African diaspora. Right, this is not new for us. And
(04:15):
the beautiful thing about music is how it evolves over time.
And I think about it as I was choosing my
songs for today that we're going to talk about today,
how most of those songs, all of the yeah, the
majority of the songs that I chose are all younger
(04:36):
than me, so they came out after I was born.
But there's but one of the songs that I chose
came out before I was born, but they've been there
have been remakes since. And in thinking about how there
are some songs that become so timeless that people remake them,
(05:00):
but the original still hits, right, oh yeah. Or there's
certain songs where nobody is gonna touch it. You just
know you're not touching this, you're not sampling it. You
will leave this piece of classic music alone. And I
(05:23):
also just think about, like just in general, how certain
songs will bring you back to a particular place and
moment in time, and other songs will make you forget
all the things like just so I just think about
all the emotions that come up with music, and then
(05:45):
I also think about just the psychological benefits of music
that there are sometimes when you are feeling down and
you play particular songs because you want to stay in
that space, but there are songs that you might play
when you want to come up from that space. Then
(06:09):
there's the songs that bring you into that angry space
because the music just needs to. You need something that's
gonna speak for you, that can communicate your feelings in
a way that you can't. And then also just thinking
about how listening to certain songs when you start moving
(06:31):
your body to it, how that can be healing. And so, yeah,
music is just a beautiful thing, and black music in particular.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Listen, you said that so beautifully Tom and I as
you were sharing, and made me think about all the
songs I wish I would have added to my list,
because y'all, we're gonna tell you about what we're gonna
do it just a bit. But when you said a
song that makes you feel angry made me think about
Calise YEA literally had a flashback to that, and I'm like, girl,
(07:00):
I think about Michael Jackson and all the greats. But lady, Okay,
here's what we're gonna do. Okay, there is a lot
going on in the world right now, and today we
want to just share a lighthearted episode to bring some light,
some joy, and a whole lot of black music magic
into your ears, even though we can't play the songs
and you may have been out hear a singer rapping
(07:21):
a little some something, right, don't.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I don't know about me, but yep, yep, yep, yep,
we're here for it.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
We're here for right. But June it's Black Music Month,
and what better way to celebrate than taking a trip
down memory lane? Okay, so get ready to be interactive
with this episode.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Okay, yes, yes, So today Terry and I each are
gonna share five songs from various stages in our life.
And these are songs that truly live, rent free in
our hearts and minds. Because as we were talking about
(08:01):
this episode, immediately at least three popped into my mind
right like right away, and they were very diverse. Right, So,
our songs today cross multiple genres. So we got a
little gospel, a little R and B, some hip hop,
(08:21):
some holidays stuff, We have a variety of black music
here for you to help you think about black joy,
our overall, just healing and being in community and some
(08:44):
really dope memories. As we talk about these songs.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Has and I'm going to add in our brilliance because
i think this also illustrates the talent, the creativity, and
the innovation that black people just exude. Okay, So as
we share, we want you to reflect on your songs. Right,
what are your top five? Not even top five, because
I think it's just difficult to say top five. These
are just five songs that came to mind to us first,
and so feel free to hit us up on Instagram
(09:09):
at her Space podcast and you can tag us and
let us know which ones take you back. So we'll
add up square on our Instagram with a music symbol,
so that way you know exactly where to go when
you come to our Instagram. Okay, So before we jump
to these songs, we go and jump into them just
a bit. We just want to kind of dive in
a bit deeper and talk about the importance of this
episode for us. And I would say that when it
(09:29):
comes to Black Music Month in particular, it's personal to
us for some of the reasons we share before, right,
so many, For so many of us, music isn't just
background noise. It's really how we survive. Sometimes you may
not have had someone to talk to, so you put
on that Mary J. Blige, you put on that Neil,
you put on that you know, I don't know, it
might have been Michael Jackson. You put something on so
that you could feel connected. And sometimes that music can
(09:52):
give us words that we may not even have ourselves,
and it can put the feelings that we have into words.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
It's how some of us process what we were going
going through, even when again we couldn't find the words ourselves.
And so I think, like you said in the beginning time,
it can also be very healing for us, right.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yes, And I think you know, for most of us, Yeah,
and I say most of us. But like most of
us that grew up in a black household, music was
always there. Somebody was always playing something. Now we're not
gonna talk about whether or not it was something you
wanted to hear, okay, because I mean, all right, we're
(10:32):
gonna talk about it.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
So, how many of you can think back to being
in your parents' home or another family member's home and
you thinking about the music that you wanted to hear,
because more than likely you wanted to hear what was
playing on the radio at that time the current hits right,
(10:58):
and your mama, your daddy, your auntie, your grandmama, they
were playing some blues. Maybe you grew up in a
household where all they played was gospel, or your household
your parents were like, nah, not in this house. We
listened to classical music. We listened to opa, we listened
(11:20):
to jazz. That's what you're gonna get, right. But what
chances are if you grew up in a black household,
you grew up with some level of black music. Right.
I can recall personally Saturday mornings when we're up, my
(11:40):
mom would get us up and it was time to
clean up the house. My mom, right, My mom was
a die hard Prince fan. Oh, so we grew up
listening to Prince Now as a child, that was one
of the things that I was like, man, for real,
were listening to this again? But you know some of
(12:00):
the songs.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
I knew all the inappropriate words to some of the
songs that aren't as well known.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I'm not, you know, just because we don't want to
be censored. I'm not gonna say some of those words,
but you get the hint of a few five letter words,
you know. And that's what we were listening to on
Saturday mornings. Sundays it was probably Al Green, Bill Withers,
Oldis Redding, the Commodores, like the Isley Brothers, Earth Wind
(12:31):
and Fire. And as a child, I was like, no, man,
where's Janet Jackson, Where's Michael Jackson? Give me some Whitneys,
some Mariah, you know. But literally, now, as an adult,
I have my what I call my Sunday Old Man
Group's playlists, where I am listening to Isley Brothers, Marvin Gaye,
(12:57):
Al Green as I'm going through my Sunday and so.
And as I listen to those songs, it takes me
back to happier times, right. It takes me back to
points in childhood that feel that feel good. Now, don't
(13:20):
get me wrong, there were points in childhood that weren't
always happy. But when I'm listening to that music, it
takes me back to those happier, joyful, more celebratory times
in life. So as we, lady, as you're listening, think
about those songs that bring back memories for you, right,
(13:45):
think about the songs that allow you to think about
when you were cleaning up on Saturday morning having to
do those chores right, or getting ready for church on Sunday,
or maybe you had a playlist that you listen to
(14:05):
before get going to school in the morning, whatever it is,
think about those songs that hold special places in your heart.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yes, Tom, I love that so much. You have me
reflecting back literally, like having flashbacks of being in my
grandmother's house with breakfast cooking in the morning and the
gospel music playing on a big, big as stereo we
had at her home. But girl, you know what's funny
too when we have this conversation. One thing to keep
in mind is like we are women of a particular age. Okay,
(14:35):
So music was also not as accessible as it is today.
I remember having my Walkman, and also I ended up
having a CD player and then I would have to
don't tell nobody, y'all. Okay, get ready for this one.
All right. I've been a techie for a long time.
I used to be the person that would burn the
CDs for my friends. I'd be on line wire may
or may not have been online wire, Okay, I don't
(14:56):
know about the stats. Maybe napster, you know, download the music,
creating a little playlist, writing with the marker on the
CDs and all that. Yeah, So I remember I used
to love watching one on six in Parks because you
have the video of countdowns. But we couldn't just go
to YouTube or go to you know, a website and
listen to our favorite song. We had to wait for
it to come on the radio and I'll record it
(15:18):
if I could, And so it was also a privilege.
It was really an experience, like waiting for the music
videos to come out and all that. So that just
kind of should give you like a bit of context
for what we're about to share today, because I feel
like that is it's it makes it different, right, It's
not like today where you can just look up whatever
song and listen to it for free. We had a process.
So what we're gonna do late Okay, great, I.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Mean as you're saying that, that has me thinking back
to like it was important when an album had.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
A release date.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Yeah, it was important to know that release date so
that you could get to the store to buy that
album right, whether lineup, whether it was the CD, the
cassette tape or the actual record, right, and so records
I know are now back in style and popular. But
(16:13):
at a certain time period late eighties through the early
two thousands, people weren't People weren't using records unless you
were like an actual DJ. By late eighties, early two thousands,
it was cassette tapes and CDs like you mentioned. And yeah,
(16:37):
and so times truly have changed, as you said, as
you had mentioned that, times truly have changed in how
we take in our music. And so some of that
also plays a role in what might be your favorite,
what might bring up memories, and some of the songs
(16:58):
that we may name might not be songs that you know.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
All right, shall we dive on in? You want to
go first with your songs and kind of give us
the overview.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Oooh okay, all right, I'm gonna give you one. Let's
let's let's we'll go back and forth. Yeah, and lady,
as you're listening, know that Terry and I have not
shared our songs with each other yet. So if you
there may be some overlap, we don't know. We're gonna see.
All right, let's let's go down this musical this musical
(17:30):
journey so I think I will go in chronological order
from when the song was released, So I'll go from
the oldest song to the most recent. So my first
song was released in nineteen seventy. This is a holiday
song and it is one of my It is my
(17:54):
all time favorite holiday song ever in life. And I
only will listen to this verse or only like this version.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
It is Donnie Hathaway's This Christmas. It is not the
holidays season until I hear Donnie Hathaway singing This Christmas.
Until we hear that qan and I hear like hang
all the Mistletoe, until I hear that, it is not
(18:24):
the holiday season. I love that, Yes it is. I
mean for me, it makes the holidays feel so special.
And then it makes me think about all the holiday
music that I would listen to as a child. But
and this wasn't one of my mom's like top songs
(18:45):
that she would play for us. But this was one
of my top and still remains like the ultimate holiday song.
And this was one that I was saying that has
been remade multiple times, and no disrespect to the people
that have remade it, but this is it. This is
the only one that I get that I.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Rock with That's a good one. Dom. Do you want
to share a favorite lyric? Not singing, of course, but
just like, is there a certain part of the song,
like this is my part right here?
Speaker 2 (19:15):
There isn't no no, the whole song? One is the
whole song? Like, yeah, it's the whole. As I was
glancing over the lyrics, there's not a lyric that like that,
I'm like, oh, this this one stands out. It's the
entire song.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
For me, I feel you. I feel like for some
of my songs there's a certain part, but this is
the kind of song where it's like, you got to
take the whole song. I'm with you. That was a
good choice. Okay, let me share the song that I
put on my list, the first one here. This song
is called Stump by Kirk Frankly Featrick Guy.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yes, you said gospel, I kind of.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Knew, okay, girl. So this song came out in nineteen
ninety seven, and I chose this because I feel like
this was the church hit that made gospel music and
made gospel for like a party, like he gave us
permission to praise and you could dance to a little
bounce at a little shoulder in my household. To give
you context, like we were only allowed to listen to
gospel music. We were not allowed to listen to secular music.
(20:16):
So I had to pretty much sneak any other music
that I wanted to listen to. But this is something
my parents would play in the car often. My dad
would have this song. We you know, listened to it
in church, and my favorite part is the iconic opener. Okay,
So if y'all know the song, say it with me,
all right. For those of you who think the gospel
music has gone too far, you think we've gotten too
(20:37):
radical with our message, all I got news for you.
You ain't heard nothing yet. And if you don't know,
now you know Glover Gloray. Yes, that is classic, y'all. Okay,
you will have to let us know in the comments
if you remember the song growing up. But yeah, it's
a classic. And I would say today, dom it still
hits like I still listened to it in the car.
(20:58):
I introduced my daughter to it and now she said
it as well. And I would say that the funnier
personal story that ties back to this song is that
my very first concert I ever went to was a
Kirk Franklin concert. My dad took my sister and I
when we were as it had to be between the
ages of like seven and ten, maybe, yeah, So we
took us to the concert and we had a ball.
(21:18):
So that is song number one. Oh my list.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Okay, all right, girl, what you got?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
What you got?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
All right? So my second song is one that people
probably don't know much about, but I want you to
ask for I name it. I want you to go
in and google it. So this song was released in
nineteen eighty eight and it is called Congratulations by Vesta Williams.
(21:54):
And this song is probably one of the saddest love
songs ever.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Okay, and to really get the feel for it, you've
got to watch the video. The video for this song
is like if you feel her emotions, oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
And so now let me just share.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Okay, were you going down? I'm so excited. I think
I know what you're gonna say. M h.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
First of all, well, six years old when this song
came out. Okay, let's be clear. And this was six
years old when this when this one came out. So
at six years old, what do what do I? What
do I know about a broken heart?
Speaker 4 (22:59):
What do I know about a relationship at six?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
But this song would come on the radio, and it
particularly was coming on the radio in the morning as
we were getting ready for school. And I remember being
six and knowing because on the radio like they would
tell you you want to hear a song like call in,
(23:27):
and they gave you the number to call in. And
so I remember almost every morning, and I don't know
now that I'm reflecting back, I don't know how my
mom never caught me.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
But every morning it wasn't I wasn't sneaking, So I
don't know how she never saw it. But every morning
I would call to ask the DJ to play Congratulations.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Imagine a little six year old me and I just
felt it for this woman and and maybe that.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Was like, you know, a song foreshadowing. Yes, man, I
would that I would be this person who had who's
able to feel for other people, who has this level
of empathy, And so yeah, Congratulations by Vesta Williams.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Is that is my number two?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Don When you said the name of the song, I
was like, wait, I feel like Dom told a story
about this before. So I looked it up when you
were talking and I saw it and I was like,
this is the song that she called up to the
radio station that you were six years old. I would
pay money to hear that audio, a little Doctor Dominique Blue, Sorry,
excuse me, that is the cutest thing ever.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I do want to hear that audio too.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Beyond your years. That is like a wow. Okay. So
the second song on my list is So Anxious by Genuine.
This is on the one hundred percent Genuine album released
in nineteen ninety nine. And this was one of those
grown songs that I had no business singing, Okay, but
(25:10):
I knew every word, and the one Genuine album was on.
I'm gonna say air quotes repeat for me, right. I
love that album so much, and let me let's go
over the lyrics. Y'all. Okay, y'all already know where we're going?
You ready? You can at least my other with me? Okay?
You ready? You already know what I'm gonna say. All right,
here we go. It's nine o'clock. Oh my lord, Hey,
(25:34):
j Whisha, is you okay? Real quick? I feel like
I sound like Young Miami when young I don't know
if you've heard Young Miami singing online, but she's singing
she was singing lyrics and I think I'm gonna regret
trying to sing and rap these songs. But it's all good, y'all.
It's the vibe when when you come over my place,
okay after a while through Wow, that was the song.
(25:57):
And I feel like this was one of those classic
slow jams. And when I think about the memory behind it,
my dad, his girlfriend whenever I would come visit them
in California when I was younger, his girlfriend. I guess
you loved her from Genuine because we were always be
listening to Genuine and those genes, Genuine differences all that girl,
and I knew all the words. Now I loved it,
and I'd be in the backseat while she's driving. I'd
(26:19):
be grooving, like I knew. I didn't know what was
going on in them songs, but I do now. So
that's song number two for me.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
It is, you know, when I think about some of
the songs that we had no business singing as youngsters,
like yeah, and it was like when you really think
about what they were talking about and not even have
as a kid, not really having any clue to what
it was that you were singing about, and yet so
(26:52):
like yeah, for me now as an adult, there's certain
songs that I listened to and I'm.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Like, well, damn wait, okay, okay, I did not need
to I clearly had no clue.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
And there are some songs today that I truly am
like I was today years old when I understood what
they were.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Singing about that part today years old? Yes, oh child,
yeah all right.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
So my third song is not one of those songs.
My third song is a song that I wholeheartedly knew
what it meant at the time. I had not experienced this,
but I knew what it meant at the time that
the song was released. So my third song came out
(27:50):
in nineteen ninety six, and this was off of this
artist's first album. So the song is Whenever, Wherever Whatever
by Maxwell and Lady. If you know me, you know
that Maxwell is my favorite artist and I and I
(28:13):
fell in love with Maxwell from that very first album.
This song is probably like my number one all time
favorite song ever in life because to me, I'm a
I'm an R and B girly, I'm a romance. I
love love and this song to me like just speaks
(28:39):
about love like Whenever, Wherever, whatever, right, and some of
it does seem a little sad because it is like,
wish I knew I could be the one that you
would love forever in a day, right, But basically he's
saying that if there's anything that you need for you
(29:04):
and your blood, I would bleed like so basically, I'm
there for you girl. I got you, girl. Like that
to me, ultimate ultimate love song. And so yeah, even
though in nineteen ninety six, I did not know, fourteen
year old me did not had not experienced love, I
(29:30):
felt it in my soul and it will. Yes, this
one will always be my number one. It's gonna take
a lot, it would take a whole lot to top
this song.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
For me.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
I'm gonna have to go revisit that one down. That
was a good one. I like it. I like it, Okay,
I like the setup you did there too. So number
three for me is going to be a song from
two thousand and three and the song is get Ready
You're ready should have known better by Monica that song
on video. I love that song so much and I
(30:02):
was singing all the words and I feel like this
was that emotional I was loyal to you anthem right.
Monica was always like a great emotional outlet and I'm
not going to sing this part because I can't hit.
I'm not going to hit the note and I don't
want to, you know, mess up y'all ears. But the
part that I liked was why I never left you
and why I kept it real and why I'm still
(30:24):
with you. I won't leave it there, I I go.
I tried to hard, y'all, And I feel like this
was like a many, a many heartbreak. I don't know,
she was like a many heartbreak counselor in some ways,
you know, even though I didn't have a heartbreak, and
this was probably dedicated to some imaginary relationship because sometimes
you just like you said, you feel that song, I'm like, yeah,
(30:46):
why you? Why you do me wrong?
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Like that?
Speaker 1 (30:48):
It's like I ain't. I don't know what did I
ain't didn't nobody know what's going on. But it was
one of the songs. So yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Okay, Yes, Monica, you're right on course, I don't about
that about Monica likes speaking to what women were going through,
because I even think about from the bet her very
first song, just one of them.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
Days right like ye, yes, yes, so and so okay,
so my my next song exited.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
So first of all, let me just say that if
you don't know, if you have never listened to a
podcast episode, I am from New Orleans. New Orleans has
amazing artists, right, so I mean from multiple genres of music.
(31:43):
Right We have like Louis Armstrong and the Marsalis Brothers
with jazz, and we have Mahela Jackson with with gospel.
More recently, we got like Tanking the Bengals in Big Freedom. Well,
you know this song was released in nineteen ninety eight
(32:05):
to New Orleans, but it's for everybody else cash Money
Record taking over for the nine nine into two thousand.
That's right, back that ass up, is Yes, it's number
four on my list because yeah, you hear that and
you just immediately need to get your body moving. You
(32:29):
need to twerk, You need to back that ass up,
right Like universally, black women everywhere hear it and they
just know it's time to dance.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I got to shake. So yes, yes, that was a
good choice. I'm glad that you chose that one, oh,
because I didn't have that on my list. But that
is a classic right there. Even if you don't know
how to talk, because I know some of us, you
know our twork and is it to happen? Sometimes it's questionable,
But you got to move a little something when you
hear that song. So that was a good one. My
(33:00):
next one, I feel like the theme with mine, like
they're like singables or wrappabules. I like to be able
to spit some bars or like sing some you know,
sing the words when I'm listening. And so this next one, y'all,
is two thousand and five and the song is Candy
Shop and I Love my fifty. I was loving twenty
more questions and all the stuff everything for thesecent was
(33:20):
dropping in the club all that, and so I feel
like everyone in school was singing. This one had a
nice little beat to it. I didn't know about all
the stuff he was saying in it, because the part
that I liked was where he was like, don let
me know if you remember this part He said, you
can have it your way? How do you want it?
You going back that thing? Should I push your phone
(33:41):
into puture rise? And okay, that's hot, Okay, cool lot
from hig grown and I was grown, very grown. Okay,
it's getting very much grown. I was singing all the words,
but I didn't really. I don't think I really listened
to them and understood like exactly what everything was, you know,
what they were talking about. But this still hits today.
I would definitely sing this at karaoke. Yeah, so this
would this would be the one. This is definitely one
(34:02):
of the songs I was burning on the CDs and
sneaking to listen to because I wasn't allowed to. And yeah,
that is my song number four.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Okay, okay, all right, well since we're still it seems
like we're still in this hip hop rap errm. All
right now my number five, I'm gonna bring in more currents.
And my number five was actually released in twenty twenty.
(34:30):
Oh so I'm I'm skipping a couple of decades here, right,
I went from ninety eight to twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yes, And it's so funny now as I'm thinking about it,
like I'm thinking about all kinds of other songs that
I could have tossed in in between ninety eight and
that in twenty twenty. But but nevertheless, here we are
and my number five Savage remix by Meg thee Stallion
(35:01):
and Beyonce. That is my number five Cuz I'm classy
I'm bougie, I'm ratchet. Listen, I'm sassy, I'm moody, I'm nasty.
M h I am all of those things and more. Yes,
And when this song came out, I just felt like
(35:24):
I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, this song kind of
I feel this like and this is actually this song
is actually on my morning playlist. It's the last song
on my morning playlist because it's like, all right, now
you're ready to go. You are ready to tackle your day.
Now that you are reminded that you are a savage.
(35:44):
You got this. Go on and handle your business.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Girl. Listen, you reminded of who you are. I love that.
It's a great song to have on the playlist. That
was a good one, And there are so many songs
that we could have shared, y'all. This is definitely not
a top five I want to reiterate that, but just
songs that came to mind as we thought about this
episode topic. And so my number five is a song
that came out in two thousand and five, and this
(36:09):
was just such a great I fought the two thousands
in my opinion, because that's the era that I really
grew up in. I looked the two thousands. That's some
good music, right that ninety nine two thousands era. That
was just ooh, so this song right here, y'all is
grind on me pretty ricky, Okay, grind on me pretty ricky.
It was like the summertime. It was like an anthem.
(36:29):
And I remember listening to this song and I actually
I think I had a chirp I had a Nextel
chirp phone back then, and I believe I had this
as my ringtone. And I remember my dad he was like,
take that song. He was so pissed. He's like, take
that song. You need to choose another song. You can't
have that. And I was like, damn you grand from
(36:50):
my style? Why are he so extra? And now as
an adult, I'm like, I'd be damn if my teenager
tried to come up in this house with a song
like that as her ringtone. Absolutely not. That was too
damn much. And the thing is too with some of
these songs. I was listening to the radio version, and
for mem I was today years old for many of
them when I actually realized, oh that's what they were saying.
(37:13):
I see why, you know, I think on that radio, yeah,
this was they had a clean er it was still
a lot, but it was a version for this and
it was the song. I loved their whole album. What
was it called was the Blue Stars or I don't know.
They had a lot of freaky songs on the album,
and I think the album still hits to this day,
Like I still listened to it. So is it classics?
Speaker 2 (37:31):
I love that? So I you know, as I'm reflecting,
I want to throw in a couple of honorable mentions.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Yes, great, that's right. Yes.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
So, as I was thinking of Savage like what it may,
it made me think about one of my nieces who
in twenty twenty when the song came out, like because
I was always listening to it, she knew that that
was like she just claimed that that was my song
and so she would know to like play it for me.
And then it made me think about my Elvis niece
(38:07):
and in two thousand three, hold on, let me let
me find it for real. In two thousand and three,
there was a song that came out, Oh no, I'm
sorry it was two thousand and six. Huh okay, so
(38:30):
I thought it was two thousand and three, but Bossy
by Calice, Yes, and my niece knew This was back
when people actually played CDs in their car. She was
she knew how to find it on the CD player
in the car, and she would always go to that
(38:53):
particular song. Yes, And I was like, well, that's fitting,
that's that's that was in that stage of life. That's
I was embodying that I was bossy, and so it
makes me think about it. So I thought about that
one and then another one that that I really liked.
Every Time I Close my Eyes by Baby Bace. That
(39:16):
song was like an ultimate like wedding song, and like
I remember when it came out, like having multiple people
knowing multiple people who were like putting that on their
like wedding album playlists.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Yes, those are so good. Dumb and bossy. I remember,
I think I was in high school that came out,
and I remember everybody loved that song. I'm thinking about
the intro, which is where it's like doing like that. Yes,
I'm gonna give a couple of honorable mentions, but again
I feel I wish we could do a whole long list,
but I'm just gonna talk about the most the ones
(39:55):
that come to mind right now. One is a Jay
Holliday bed that came out when I was in a
freshman in college, and I feel like that was that
was like the song of my freshman year. So whenever
I hear that song. I heard it in the car
the other day and I was like, oh my gosh,
it reminds me of what I used to drive back
home from college and like have that blasting in the
(40:16):
cars driving up seventy six or ninety five, like going
back home. So I would say that one, and then
I have to say Michael Jackson song, y'all, Billy Jean,
I mean the real little all Michael Jackson. I mean,
we would play Michael Jackson and all my siblings would
be dancing in the house to his music, trying to
moon walk and through all the dances. So Michael Jackson
(40:37):
is a classic for sure. And then I got to
give another gospel song, and It's gonna be No Weapon
by Fred Hammond. I just grew up in the gospel household,
so all the gospel music we just we listened to
it all and that was one of the That was
another favorite. So that's my little list there, lady.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
As you can see, it was easy for us to
like start generating all these other We tossed in real
quick a couple of hon't re mentions.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
And there are so many more songs that we could name,
Like we could have a playlist, give you all a
playlist for all kinds of different moods and reasons and seasons.
And yeah, but it just speaks to that going back
(41:27):
to our quote of the day, right that like black
music truly is about our healing, our protests and our celebration.
And so, lady, as you're listening, think about the songs
that resonate the most with you and come up with
(41:48):
a few playlists. You know, I mentioned having I have
a morning playlist, and my morning playlist is very diverse.
I you know, I mentioned having my what I called
my old Man Groove Sunday playlist. And think about all
the music that you like and why it means so
(42:11):
much to you. Like remember to not just let it play,
think about why those particular songs are the songs that
are important to you, the songs that you put on repeat.
And then be sure to go to our Instagram and
give us your top five in the comment section.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
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