S28E9: Building the Identity Required for Wealth and Abundance with Dr. Darnyelle Jervey Harmon

Hey lady! We hope you had a wonderful day spent in gratitude yesterday. If you’ve been around our podcast a while you know that gratitude is something we value, and we value it for good reason. Gratitude is an essential element to calling in the abundance that is your birthright. This week, Dr. Darnyelle Jervey Harmon joins Terri and Dr. Dom to help you get your mind right for increase and overflow in 2026!

Darnyelle shares her powerful testimony of how she went from filing to bankruptcy to becoming a millionaire in the span of a year. She didn’t allow bankruptcy to defeat her instead she decided to step in the abundance that already has her name on it and let the power of the tongue guide her to success. Lady, we’re going to let you know right now that this is an episode you’re going to want to save and come back to as Darnyelle offers realistic, faith-based framework of doing the real work to shift your life of one that embodies abundance and wealth.

Transformation from broke to ballin’ takes time and consistent work. Darnyelle dispels the myth, though, that hard work is the actual work and offers a perspective on how to set boundaries with relatives and mean girls as your wealth grows. Lady, if you’re in a space where you’re reviewing the year and planning for next year, let this episode inspire your visualizations of a healthier, brighter, and more prosperous you! 

Quote of the Day:
"I used to get in trouble for talking too much in class, now I use my words to deliver and set free." 
– Darnyelle Jervey Harmon  

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(02:02):
no matter when you press play on this episode, it's
going to bless you. Okay. But if you're tuning in
as this episode airs at the close of twenty twenty five, baby,
this timing could not be more divine. Okay. Today's guest
is the Blueprint. We are joined by doctor Darnielle Jervi Harmon,

(02:23):
a powerhouse and business transformation and personal reinvention. About fifteen
years ago, she was navigating bankruptcy. Fast forward to today,
she has built an eight figure empire and is the
CEO of an ink five thousand company that helps entrepreneurs
scale with systems, mindset, and ease. Her work has been

(02:46):
featured in Forbes, TEDx, NBC, Fox News, and Oh, The
Oprah magazine, and she is known for blending strategy with spirit,
wealth with worthiness, execution with identity work. She doesn't just
teach business skilling, she teaches women how to become who

(03:08):
they need to be to answer the call on their lives.
So settle in, lady, because this is not just information,
this is activation. I have my notebook ready. Okay, doctor
darn Jell, welcome to Cultivating her Space.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Heay, I am so excited to be here. How are you,
beauties doing tonight?

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Amazing? You're ready to look up some game? We are
so excited.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yeses awesome.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, I have been waiting for this, So I'm so
excited that the time has come. And I'm excited for
everybody who's going to listen, Like you said, whether they're
listening as soon as it drops or if they catch
it later. Because this is a moment that is going
to shift the trajectory of your life. I'm just really
really clear on that. So I'm excited to be here.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Oh, we are ready for that clarity. All right, So
let's get into our cold of the day. Now. This
quote will sound familiar to you because these are your words,
and you think that they'll help kind of set the
stage for us for one, not only us understanding who
you are, but also for why this conversation is gonna

(04:19):
bless us. All all right, So our quote of the day.
I used to get in trouble for talking too much
in class. Now I use my words to deliver and
set free facts. Yes, And I'm gonna say that quote
one more time for the folks in the back so

(04:39):
they know who we're dealing with, Like, who has come
to bless us today? I used to get in trouble
for talking too much in class. Now I use my
words to deliver and set free.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
Okay, I just got chills.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
I mean, this conversation is about to be good.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
Well, it's going to be so good. I feel the
Holy Spirit. M Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
So when you hear yeah, when you hear that quote,
your words reflected back to you. Tell us what comes
up for you in hearing those words?

Speaker 2 (05:26):
You know, it's always really surreal. I'm about to turn
fifty at the time of this recording. My birthdays in
thirteen days, and I've been contemplative at half a century.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
I have been on this earth.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
And so when I hear my words, when I hear
those words in particular, and I think about the trajectory
and the lives that change when I open my mouth,
it makes me feel really good that I said yes,
all those years ago, that I would do this work,
that I would tell my story, that I would be
vulnerable and transparent, and I would create a safe space

(06:01):
for people in general, but women in particular, to get
what they most need in order to see themselves the
way that God has always seen them. And so I
get excited because I'm doing what I purpose to do,
even though it came with setbacks, It came with, you know,
all the things that sometimes the journey comes with, because

(06:21):
I think it's really hard to be an example for
other people when you haven't lived right. And so having
been through all the things that I've been through and
to be able to sit here today and offer that
trajectory shifting pre paradigm shift that is going to help
a woman who's in whatever I mean, twenty twenty five
has been a whole year for a lot of people,

(06:44):
and so whatever comes out of it. When I hear
you know what I've said, and I get to be
me and be in this experience, I just I get excited.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
I get grateful.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
It's making me tear up a little bit, just because
that's what it's all about.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Right.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
I don't think that I don't think that anything that
I went through happened to me. I think it all
happened for me in order to be a vessel, to
be a mentor, to be a guide to those that
will come and be a part of my story and
my journey later.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Oh child, All right, now, we already know it's about
to be a whole vibe here. I got emotional too.
I got goosebumps over here. So we got to get
the tissues out. We have so many questions for you, Darnielle,
and I think it'd be great for us to start
with the origin story. If people are new to you,
they're but living under rock, I'm not familiar. We'd love
for you to share your origin story and how you
became the woman who sits before us today.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
I am the product of two drug addicted urned crack
addicted parents, born in the projects of Wilmington, Delaware. I'm
one of seven on my mom's side, and I'm the
only of my mom's children and the first of my
fathers to make a different decision, you know, growing up
in the projects, crabbing, the barrel, mentality, lack scarcity, all

(08:00):
those things are around you and they become normal. But
I purposed really early in my life that that wasn't
going to be my story. I in fact said around
the age of ten, that I was going to be
wealthy one day, and I specifically used wealthy without even
really a frame or context at ten years old of
what that even meant. And so I, as Robert Frost

(08:21):
would say in his poem of Road Less Traveled, I
took the road less traveled, and that is what made
all the difference. And so very early on, I hung
on education, and I realized that the only way to
get out of the situation that I was born into
was to educate myself. And so I studied, As the
Bible would say, I studied to show myself approved in
order to get a full scholarship to college, which then

(08:42):
turned into a professional career in corporate America that made
me a vice president within three years, all before waking
up one morning and saying, you know, I don't think
I was meant to sit behind someone else's desk and
purposing to go out on my own and start my
own entrepreneurship journey, which you know you alluded to it

(09:02):
in the intro. You know, twenty ten, I filed bankruptcy,
and I did everything I thought it was big enough
and bad enough to do when it came to money,
and I didn't know what I didn't know, and I
didn't know the source of the lack that was bred
into me when I was a child and how that
would manifest and show up when I became an adult
who was financially illiterate. And even with all of that,

(09:27):
I made a decision at bankruptcy at thirty five years old.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
I made a.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Decision that I was going to be a millionaire because
that the decision to be wealthy at age ten didn't
dissipate just because I found myself in a situation, and
so I began to make changes that over the last
fifteen years have resulted in not just an eight figure company,
but a multiple eight figure net worth and understanding the

(09:52):
significance of teaching people how to number one, feel safe
with money because many of us, especially when you look
like us. We do not come from environments when we
are taught safety, period, but specifically safety around money. So
even though we learn how to make it because we're
women and we do what we have to do because
that's what we have to do, we never feel safe

(10:15):
with it, and so we're always waiting for the other
shooter drop And we might even make a lot of
money and spend a lot of money because we're not
comfortable with having money because what we saw our parents'
experience was anything but abundance. And so I'm around it
out this way. I'm just a girl who made a

(10:36):
decision when she was ten that she was gonna do
everything that God told her she could, that she was
going to be the abundance for which he.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Sent his son.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
And I kept moving and shaking and making decisions and
transforming myself until I became that woman.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Ooh, Okay, so many questions that came from you sharing
your story, but I think and you dropped so many
gems within this. But one of the things that I
think about is for black women in particular, when we

(11:13):
get to a point where we are that one in
our family or the first in our family to do
to attain a certain level of education or a certain
level of income, not necessarily wealth, but income. Right. And

(11:33):
then those there are those who do attain a certain
level of wealth. The rest of the family is not
there in terms of where you are in your journey.
How did you navigate those relationships in those dynamics with

(11:54):
your family as you're moving into different different income and
education and career brackets that your family hadn't seen, the
rest of your family hadn't seen. How do you navigate
those relationships?

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Uh, very carefully and very confidently. Right, Like you learn
that noahs a complete sentence. You teach your family not
to project your checkbook and to not make decisions for
you based on what they believe that you have an
experience like I remember, I don't know how many years
ago it was, but I remember my stepmother's father they

(12:34):
had like a barbecue or something over their house, and
I went over there and it was, oh, well was
probably at least maybe it was ten years.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
Ago, because I had become a millionaire at that point.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
And first in my immediate family, my brother is who's
younger my dad's son, So my mom has seven my
dad had four and they share three. So my brother
on my dad's side, he is also a millionaire. He's
worked with me the last few years and in my
mastermind he made the move to millions, but prior to that,

(13:06):
as the first millionaire in my family. At that particular
point in time, we're all sitting out in the grass
in the backyard, and my sister, who is the antagonist
of my life, she is the vinegar to my oil.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
She says something like, you know that.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Darney has all this money and she doesn't ever offer
any of it to us.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
What do you think about that?

Speaker 2 (13:28):
And I just remember kind of chuckling at the time
and being like, Darny's right here first and foremost, and
second of all, when were you in the board meeting?
What call did you make? What client did you close?
That you would be entitled to any of this money?
Just because we happen to have the same last name
does not mean that you are immediately in the lineage

(13:52):
of what I've worked for, right, And so I had
to teach them, I had to train them, And I
never felt the guilt, or I guess the guilt is
the best word. I never felt like I owed somebody
else something because The one thing I was very clear
on is that everything that I amassed, it came initially

(14:13):
through my effort, and then eventually it started to come
through my embodiment. And the only one responsible for those
things occurring in human form is during Yelle antoinette, right.
And so you have to be confident. You have to
stick to your guns. And that doesn't mean that there
haven't been times when I have contributed to the family cause,

(14:34):
but it's always on my terms, not on yours, and
not because you think I should.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Because I have become fiscally responsible.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
And the one thing I'm not going to do is
I'm not going to feed your inability to manage your
money in a way that actually puts you in a
position as a grown adult to have your needs met.
Like I never understood that my sister, the antagonist of
my life, was married, like had a whole husband and

(15:01):
was calling me asking me for money. I'm like, ma'am, sorry, no,
that's not the way that this thing is going to go.
And then when I understand the reason why the need
for the money existed, no, because what I can't do
is I cannot enable you. And the same thing happened
with my father. And this might make me sound really
cold hearted, but there was a time many years ago

(15:21):
when my father reached out to me because their electric
bill was like fourteen hundred dollars, and he was like, well,
you have it. We're not arguing whether I have it
or not. The question is whether or not I'm giving
it to you. And my dad was an addict. He
was an addict his entire life, my entire life. Up
until the thirty three days before he passed away in
twenty twenty two, he was still getting high. And the

(15:45):
reason why his electric bill when I'm paid, is because
he decided to support his habit instead of making sure
that they had lights.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
And so I said to him, kind.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Of jokingly but also very serious, why didn't you call
me when it was two hundred dollars, right, because now
it's fourteen hundred dollars. And so here's what I offered.
I said, I have two hundred dollars, and I'm willing
to send it to Delmarva Power, which is our electric
company here the state of Delaware.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
He didn't want it.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
He didn't want me to pay the two hundred dollars
on the electric bill because he wanted to use it
for ill gotten purposes. And you know, when you're a child,
you are subject to the environment in which you are raised,
with very few choices of how you navigate. But when
you become an adult, you get to make different decisions.
And the decisions that I made for myself in my

(16:36):
life is that whatever I support financially, it's going to
be things that mean something to me and actually are
edifying to others around me, and not bailing someone out.
And it takes a lot of thick skin to think
that way, be that way, especially when you are the one.
But you also have to set a precedent because people

(16:57):
will think you're an ATM and that they can come
to you when ever they have a need. And by
doing this what I've learned from my other siblings is
I actually help them to figure out a way, like
if they ever come to me, I now know that
I'm the last resort because they tried everything else. Because
I've started to teach them through my actions and my

(17:17):
know that they have to learn how to be more
resourceful because I feel like we can all find the
money that we need to find for whatever we need
to find it for, for the things that we deem
to be important, full stop, mic drop.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
It's the audacity for me. Okay, what I'm still stuck
on with Your sister said at the family barbecue?

Speaker 4 (17:37):
Yes, and what's serious? Said it with her chest and everything.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah, what did you think about that? Dad? What you shared?
I just feel like so many of us can relate
to this, and I have so many notes in questions.
I'm want to ask you ten questions at one time,
but I'm going to stay focused now. You mentioned something earlier,
you talked about safety around money, and when you were
sharing more about you, when you shared your order story,
I feel like somebody told you some of my bigs
because I was like, how she that's the same, How

(18:02):
she know what's going on? So I want to know,
coming from the background that you came from. I think
we all have a lot in common here, right, all
three of us. What does it look like to be
safe with money when you haven't been that way? Because
I've been that person. You grow up in poverty and
then you get these six figure roles, you get these checks,
and you're like, I still have the same habits. I'm
doing the same I'm back in dead I'm doing the
same thing. But I just have more money. Now, how

(18:23):
do we come safe with money? Can we talk about it?

Speaker 4 (18:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (18:25):
So let me first say this money is an amplification
of whatever you haven't healed. So you know how people
say money changed them. Money didn't change them. Money just
revealed who they already was. It just amplified who they
already were. And so for me, I came about this
all by mistake. It was not intentional. But in growing

(18:48):
up leading up to my bankruptcy at age thirty five,
I experienced everything that one experience is when it comes
to money. Now I now know today there was purposeful
because that's the call of my life, the anointing, And
so my job is to lead entrepreneurs into the financial
promise land, Like that's what I'm here to do. And
so I had to have experienced everything in order to

(19:09):
be a good mentor to those that I'm called to serve.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
And here's what I'll say.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Most of us, and you, ladies, since we're here together,
you tell me if this is true for you. Most
of us who look like us grew up in families
where there was not enough. It was a source of chaos.
It was a source of turmoil. It was stress, it
was fear. It was robing Peter to pay Paul. It
was money is only for what you need. It was

(19:35):
I don't have a tree out back with money on it.
It was you gotta work hard for money. It was
white people are rich and evil like. It was all
of that and our nervous system, which is our operating
system as humans. We are actually when we are raised
in those environments, what becomes normal for us is lack

(19:56):
and scarcity. So when we happen upon a lot of
and our body, our vessel, our source of being is
used to lack and scarcity. We try to do everything
in our power to get rid of the money because
it doesn't feel safe. That's not safe for us, that's danger.
And so that's why people who win the lottery are

(20:18):
broken again in two to three years, because normal for
them is lack. Normal for them is robing Peter to
pay Paul. Normal for them is not having enough and
having to choose do I pay my electric bill or
do I get this Gucci bag so I can keep
up with the Jones and pretend like everything is all right.
And because every single day we all have to make
decisions about money. Right, if you want to turn on

(20:39):
your lights, if you want to take a shower, if
you want to open up your refrigerator, if you want
to get in your car. That's a money decision that
you have to make. And for most of us, money
is not a safe haven. It's not a safe space,
or as I would call, it's not a sanctuary.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
And so therefore we are.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Constantly contending with our survival mode even when we have more.
So that I wanted to give that background before I
answer your question. So how do we feel safe with money?
We have to rewire our beliefs and we have to
reset our nervous system thermometer, because right now, if nothing
has changed the way that we were raising, even though
we suddenly come into money, we're still in our body.

(21:19):
Whenever we're presented with more money, we're gonna be waiting
for the other shoe to drop. We're gonna be thinking
it's a fluke and it'll never happen again. And we
have to get everything we possibly want with this money
because we don't know when we're gonna get another lump
some like this, and that's the way that we live
our lives, and so we have to reset. We have
to decide that there is a new normal, and that

(21:42):
happens through most It happens through three ways. It happens somatically.
So actually doing the work in our body that could
be breath work God is so amazing that just by
breathing you can calm yourself. You can take the anxiety
that you feel when you have to make a money decision,
and just by taking three yes, one for the Father,

(22:02):
one for the Son, and one for the Holy Spirit,
you can calm yourself down enough to be able to
actually think logically to make the decision. So let me
make it. Let me go science geek for two seconds
for you. So we having amygdala, which is back here.
It's our fear center that whenever something happens that emotes fear,
this takes over. We also have a prefrontal cortex that's

(22:23):
that's our vision, our ideas, our creativity. Well, when our
amygdala has signaled that there is a danger, our prefrontal
cortex can't enter the conversation. So it is impossible to
think logically, to think creatively, to hear God when your
fear center is heightened. And so that is how most

(22:44):
of the time, how most of us are spending our time.
Yet we're entrepreneurs who are making money, who are underpriced, undercharged,
throwing everything in in the kitchen scene just to get
a couple of dollars, just so that we can have
enough to get by instead of living in the abundance
that we all go to church and say that we
understand that we deserve because we believe in Jesus. Somebody,

(23:04):
make it make sense to me, because it don't make
no sense and unless we are willing to do the
work to regulate our nervous system, which isn't in the
Bible in nervous system speak, but it is. You know,
God designed us, He created us with a nervous system,
and there are cues in the Bible that tells us

(23:24):
like He's I mean, I could go off on a
diatribe or I.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
Could stay focused. And I'm gonna stay focused because.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
I'm already really excited and I know y'all got more questions.
But but that's the quick and easy answer is you
have to reset your thermometer, and you have to teach
your nervous system that actually having excess is safe, and
so somatically through your body science, understanding science, spiritually looking
at the word is going to be important.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
As well, So we do all three.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
We're gonna look at the science, We're gonna look at
the somatics, and we're gonna look at the spirit, and
we're gonna bring all of them together so that what
we were taught as we were raised, because most of us,
you know, we were raised religiously, right, it can make
sense and it doesn't go against what is ingrained in
us as our belief system, even though most of the
things that we believe are indeed a lie.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Okay. I had a bunch of other questions as you
were speaking, and then you dropped that last statement of
most of the things that we were taught to believe
were alive. And so I want to tie that into

(24:35):
how we understand money right and the ability to build wealth. So,
what are some of the lies that we have been
taught to believe around wealth and money that we need
to release and let go of so that we can

(24:57):
truly start to embrace our ability to accept and hold
and create wealth.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Yeah, doctor dom I want to run around this room
and give you a hug all at the same time
because I love that question. Okay, So I'm gonna say this.
So the Bible talks about money wealth, and possessions. Twenty
three hundred times God talked about money, wealth and possessions
more than he talked about.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
Heaven or hell.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Why not just because in Deuteronomy he told us that
we have the power to create wealth, but because money
is a lesser thing that we actually need to be
masters over. But most of us, you know, what's the
oj song for the love of money? Like most of us?
Because one Timothy six and ten, that's the scripture that

(25:47):
I think does everybody in and that is for the
love of money is the root of all evil, for
they that covetive after have aired from the faith, and
that has caused them sorrow. And the first thing I
say this a lot on a lot of the podcasts
I'm on when I'm talking about money, is we have
to understand that the Bible was written in three languages,
but English was not one of them, and so many
of the things in the translation they get lost, and

(26:09):
then they continue to be misinterpreted from pullpit to pulpit
to pullpit based on people's limiting.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
Beliefs and understanding about money.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Because we're most of us are financially illiterate, and financial
literacy isn't just.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
For poor people.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
It doesn't have any thing to do with how much
money you have. But if you don't understand what money is,
and you have to understand the spirituality of money as
well as the practicality of money, you'll miss it. So anyway,
in the scripture, Paula is telling Timothy Timothy's territory is
the one where the wealthy people are, and Timothy needs
to understand how to manage and navigate these wealthy people

(26:46):
in his territory. And so you know, paul is saying, basically,
it's not for the love of money like it's translated.
It's actually the Greek word avarice, which is extreme greed.
The scripture is really saying is extreme greed is.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
The root of all evil.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
I don't know about you, doctor dom and Terry, but
I agree with that statement one hundred percent that when
people are extremely greedy and they are desperate and they
will do anything for money, it can lead to evil.
But for me, I was challenged by the scripture because
the use of love, because in First Corinthians thirteen it

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defined love for me, and that definition of love didn't
match what that scripture was saying.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
So I had to dig a little bit deeper.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
So that's one lie I could do a whole I
got an episode on my podcast all about that particular scripture.
That's one of them. That you have to work hard
for money. Now I get it. And here in the
United States, we are a society that has people trade
their time and effort in exchange for money. It is
very transactional, and so all of us were taught that

(27:58):
you have to work hard for We are raised when
we work hard. If you've ever done anything amazing and
people came to celebrate you, I bet nine times out
of ten someone said.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
I'm so proud of you.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
You work so hard for this, and so we glorify
hard work. But the truth of the matter is that
money is an energy that is always available, and you
do not have to effort for money to come into
your life experience. You only need to embody. You need
to be it, You need to be the energy of it.
People got it right halfway when they started this whole

(28:32):
faked until you make it. There is some truth to
that operating in the energy of as if it's already yours.
Even the body says, even the Bible says, speak those
things that be not as though they were right. So
the impetus of fake it until you make it is
right because when we speak it, we know life and

(28:53):
death is in the power of the tongue, right. We
know that we will have what we say. We know
that what we say creates or condemn. We know all
of this just through the power of our words. So
it was half right. But after you say it, you
just have to line up to the energy and the
frequency of what would actually allow it to come in.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
For it to come in, and it.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Does not require that money be exchanged or that effort
be exchanged for you.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
To get money.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
But that's not the lie that we were all taught
because we here in the United States, we effort for money, right,
And so that's a second lie. And I'll give you
one more, just because this will make the whole the
whole thing really really long. And then the third one,
the third lie, is that money changes you. Again, money
amplifies whatever you haven't healed. So if you were a nasty,

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contankerous person and you were broke and nobody knew it
because you didn't have any money, guess what you get
a couple of dollars.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
You're still going to be nasty.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
And contankerous because it's only a tool of amplification. And
I could go on and on and on about the lies.
I mean, they're are so many. And I like to
say that because the word believe be e l I
e ve e, it has a lie right.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
In the middle. So again, most of the things we
believe are a lie.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
And just like we used to believe in Santa Claus
until we did it, we can change our beliefs.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
We can rewire our beliefs.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
We can start to believe something different and have the
energy line up to begin to bring into our life
experience that which we most desire to experience.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
That is so powerful. Mike drop might drop, Okay, Darnielle
for the woman who's listening and she knows that her
life is supposed to look different, but she keeps slipping
back into those old patterns. Can we talk about or
illustrate what embodiment is in action? So you said money,
I believe money, Like, what is the energy of money?

(30:52):
I guess because you said, well, you can embody that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
So one of my favorite universal laws spiritual laws another
way to say, these are the laws that God created
that he used scripture to reference to basically tell us
how the world works.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
Right.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
So one of my favorites is the law of circulation.
I call it the law of abundance. That's just what
Darniell calls it. The world calls it the law of circulation.
And what the law of circulation says, it says abundance
or money is expanding around us at an ever increasing rate,
and it never stops expanding, with the exception of specific

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actions that we take that will stop money from circulating
to us. Example number one, you go out to a restaurant,
your waiter or waitress was nasty, so you don't leave
them a tip. The tip is not for them, the
tip is for you. Because money needs to move, and
money is always moving, and the principles of money is
that it's always moving. So when you hoard money, you

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think by putting it in your bank account.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
I mean, there's a reason why savings accounts.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Give you like next to nothing because money needs to
move and circulate. And even when you put your money
in the bank and it's sitting there and you get
that whatever percentage of you're have a high yield savings account,
you might get getting four or five percent right now,
even when you put your money in there, you know
what the bank is doing. They're circulating your money. They're
using your money to give out loans or to make

(32:11):
investments to make them more money. Because that's the one
thing that wealthy people and people who understand the energy
of money understand. The whole purpose of money is to
create more money. That's what's supposed to happen with money.
But that's not ultimately what it is that we know.
So anyway, the energy of money is best embodied through

(32:34):
this simple phrase, be it to become it Again. I
said it earlier. I think fake it till you make
it was half right. Faking is disingenuous, right, But if
you truly believe, like if you believe, like you know
your name, actually, let's not even believe because there's a lie,
and believe. Let's know if you know, like you know

(32:55):
your name, that you are coming in to another season,
no matter or what it looks like right now. Because
the one thing about money is your money can change
in an instant. Today, you could have no money in
the bank. Tomorrow, through effort action making a sale, you
can have a lot of money in the bank right
whatever that means to you, because even a lot is relative,

(33:16):
and the way that that changes the fastest is acting
as if you already have money. Most people who have
money challenges act downtrodden. They are low vibrational right, They
are in fear, in doubt and overwhelm. They are frustrated.
They are all of these and negative emotions, whereas typically

(33:39):
people that have money i e. People who feel safe
with money. They are grateful, they are appreciative, they are givers.
They are constantly sewing into other people. And we've all
probably heard the law of sowing and reaping because money
needs to move, right. So even with the law of circulation,

(34:00):
money is always expanding. What it doesn't say is the
money you put out is coming back to you in
the same way that it went out from you. No,
because money is always expanding. If I give you twenty dollars,
I might wake up tomorrow and there's two hundred dollars
in my mailbox because.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
I made money move.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
The way that we keep money circulating is by investing,
putting it out there and being investible. So the energy
of being investible, believing that you are worthy of money,
you are desirable of abundance.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
That abundance lives in you. It is part of you.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
When you hear abundance, think abundance, say abundance, you do
not feel tension anywhere in your body. Instead you feel
light and airy. Then that is an indication that you
are in the energy of frequency of money. And then
you can start testing it out and you can start
putting things out there.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
Like I could literally right.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Now, and I'm not even a big social media person,
but I could literally right now go into DMS and
reach out to some people and be like, Hey, I
have an opportunity for you to come and do whatever
whatever for whatever amount of money. And I would imagine
that if I did that with ten people, at least
one person would say yes, and I would be able
to make money, like just like that, right Or I

(35:17):
could go, if I was a day trader, I could
go and I could buy a stock.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
I could go and I could buy.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Some you know, some crypto and I could watch it
every day and I could create money.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
And I'm not expending.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Effort to do those things because that's the way that
money works and the way that money moves, and so
most of us have we don't know this.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
The only way we know that money moves is through
the sweat on our brow. So that is how we.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Indicate our ability to get money. So we work hard,
we hustle, we grind. You know, we're always doing all
the things. We have two hundred and fifty thousand revenue streams,
which is probably a whole episode in and of itself.
But we're doing all of these things hoping that something
will pan out and create money for us.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
When what we need to do in tandem.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
I'm not going to sit here, and I'm not one
of those people who believes that it's just about manifestation.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
If we just manifest then all will be well.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
No, manifestation is a piece of it, but there is
still some work has to be done right. Even the
Bible says faith without works is dead. I can believe
all day long I'm gonna be wealthy, but if I'm
not taking an action that leads me down the path
of wealth, I'm not going to be wealthy.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
But what the Bible.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Doesn't say is it doesn't say sweat on my brow
is what has to happen.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Right.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
The action that I could take could be investing in
a stock like a big part of me becoming a
millionaire one year.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
After I filed bankruptcy.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Was because I had some Microsoft stock that did really,
really well. Between that and my home, the two added
up to more than a million dollars at the time.
Even in bankruptcy, I was able to keep my home
as long as I kept making the payments.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
And I still have that home.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
In my portfolio today and have renters in there. So
I didn't effort to make those things happen. I made
a decision. I made an investment. I bought stock and
kept it in there until it got to the point
where my advisors told me now would be the time

(37:20):
I did the same thing with crypto. I first bought
bitcoin a million years ago. I think it was like
twenty eighteen. It was like five hundred dollars a coin.
I bought tens. I spent five thousand dollars and bought
ten bitcoin. Well, y'all know, a couple of years ago,
it's up again over one hundred thousand, but bitcoin.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
Went up over one hundred thousand.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
That was a million dollars that I made that I
cashed out and went and bought some real estate.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
I didn't do.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Anything but invest the five thousand dollars to make a
million dollars some five years later, seven years later, whatever
the timeframe was. So we have to stop thinking that
the only way for us to get money is to
effort to hustle to grind. And that is hard, like,
because we're trying to undo years upon years upon years

(38:06):
of all of the lessons that all of our elders
told us and that we've deemed to be acceptable as
a way in order to create the money.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Ooh, okay, So as I was listening, you know, one
of the things that keeps that kept coming up was
I know that there's a lady listening who's like, I
don't make six figures. I'm working barely making above minimum wage.

(38:41):
And the way this economy is economy, and right now
I'm scraping by. Yeah, Like every month it is a
struggle to figure out am I going to have enough
to pay this rent to keep food on my table,
to keep gas in my car so that I can
get to this job, to the rent to keep food

(39:02):
on the table. And the cycle keeps going, right.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
The cycle, Yeah, yeah, and it.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Yeah, because yeah, and I know that we have listeners
out here who are living this right who are saying, like,
I mean, that's all well and good, but y'all are
talking to y'all not speaking to me. Y'all are speaking
to women who have six figure salaries.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah, and here's what I would say to a woman
who is feeling that way and listening right now. Number one,
you're absolutely right, your situation is different. But what I
want you to understand is that everything that I'm sharing
is agnostic to whatever your situation is.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
It is the way.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Of the world, if you will, it is the way
that the law works. And I also want to tell you, like,
start where you are right. So I imagine if you
are scraping things together, you know that you're in aren't meeting,
You're going to have to be a little bit more
disciplined than some other people to begin to carve out

(40:08):
something that will give you an opportunity to start to shift.
But here's the other thing I want to say, Like,
we live in the land of the Internet.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
Where for free, like you could go listen to my podcast.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
You could keep listening to this podcast and you can
get nugget upon nugget upon nugget practical implemmation, implement.

Speaker 4 (40:27):
I can't even my words out. I'm so trying to
say so much.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Practical information that you can begin to leverage right where
you are that will experience a shift. So here are
three things that I'm going to tell you right now,
if that's who you are. Number One, I want you
to become completely aware of how you are managing your money.
So I want you to create a journal, a money journal,
and I want you to just start listing all of
the money that comes in and all of the money

(40:51):
that goes out. And I want you you Maybe you
do that now, but here's how I want you to
do it going forward. I want you to shift your
countenance around it. But instead of looking at what's not
there and being disgusted or frustrated, I want to invite
you to be grateful for what you do have. Gratitude

(41:12):
is the highest emotion y'all might remember back in the day,
depending upon your age, when Oprah was on when she
first introduced the world to a gratitude journal, she said,
for five minutes every day, just write what you're grateful for.
Let me tell you the science behind that. The pure
act of gratitude is the highest emotion. When you are grateful,
you are vibrating at the highest of levels. I told

(41:33):
you money is an energy, and because money is an energy,
it is attracted to a frequency that makes it feel safe,
just like you might not feel safe with money. If
money doesn't feel safe with you, it's not coming around you.
Let me say it differently. If you have a best friend,
y'all been best friends, and I'm not talking about the
kind of best friends that call each other out of

(41:54):
their name as a term of endearment. Right, listen, me
and you friends, I'm doing yeo. Maybe you can call
me darny, maybe, but you can't call me nothing else.
The day you start calling me out of my name
and start treating me funny, I'm probably not.

Speaker 4 (42:08):
Going to spend time around with you anywhere. Would you,
ladies agree, Well, let's.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Look at money the same way, because we'd be talking
dirty to money. We'd be calling money out of his name.
We'd be spaying things like that's expensive, that's a lot
of money.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
I can't afford that. I wouldn't spend my money on that.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Well.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Money, Just like a person wouldn't want to spend time
around someone who doesn't edify them and make them feel
good about themselves, Money's not going to want to spend
time around you. So it's not going to stay because
you don't feel safe with it and you don't treat
it with respect. So anyway, that was a cydebar. That
wasn't part of it. So the first thing is I
want you to do a money study. Second thing, I

(42:45):
want you to trace the origins of where your relationship
with money the first time you knew that there was
a thing called money.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
I want you to get a sheet of paper.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
I want you to turn it horizontal, and I want
you to number it one to seven, eight to fifteen,
sixteen to whatever, the twenty one, twenty two to twenty eight,
and increments of seven up to your age, however old
you might be. I want you to go back as
far as you possibly can from one to seven, and
I want you to remember the first time you knew

(43:16):
there was a thing called money. I was six when
I learned that there was something called money. I was
in the grocery store with my mom, and I picked
up a little something something that when we got to
the register, I put up there and I met my
mom's hand the back of it when she proceeded to
tell me that we don't have money for that. Money
is only for what we need. That was my first

(43:37):
definition of money. Money is only for what you need.
I'm forty nine years old and in thirteen days, I'm
about to be fifty, and I still catch myself saying,
but I don't need that.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
Why am I telling you this?

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Because no one goes to bed a blunder and wakes
up a wonder. But if you don't know where the
money stories come from, if you don't know where the
money troys comes from, then it's going to be very
hard for you to undo it. And here's what I believe,
And I'm just assuming that if you listen to this show,
you are a woman of faith, and you are a
woman who knows that you are created to be more

(44:13):
than whatever your circumstances and situation is right at this moment.
And if you are that woman, and if you do
believe in God, if you do believe that Jesus was
sent that you might have life and have it to
the full, that means you too. And you live in
paycheck to paycheck, scrimpling and scrampling to get by. God

(44:34):
gets no glory in that we are not sitting around
praising God when we don't have money enough to handle
our basic needs.

Speaker 4 (44:46):
And necessities.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
But if we can find the energy to be grateful
for what we have, even when it's short, even when
it's not enough, even when we have to do overtime
just to be able to pay our bills, that energy
shift will start to create more. It happened for me
in my twenties when I've graduated from college. My first
job paid me nineteen thousand, forty one dollars a year,

(45:10):
and that was nineteen ninety seven.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
That was not a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
I mean, it's still lain't in a lot of money today,
right somehow, though, I tied because I believe in the
principle of tithing. I believe that when whatever you put
out there is going to come back tenfold. I just
believe it. It is universal law. It is the law
of sowing and reaping. I could probably tend you to

(45:35):
five different scriptures that talk about that, for those of
you who need a scripture to reference it. And so
nineteen thousand and forty one dollars a year, I still
tithed every two weeks when I got paid. You know,
I moved into a house when I was twenty one
years old that I bought that was an eighty five
thousand dollars home that I was the owner of, and

(45:57):
my mortgage was five hundred dollars a month. So I
believe that if you start where you are, and you
start working the principles where you are, then they will
meet you where you are. I say all the time,
God will give you more while you're moving than he
ever will if you stand still. So just start with
where you are. Do the money study, Start to express

(46:18):
gratitude for what it is that you have, and trace
the steps of where the money comes from.

Speaker 4 (46:25):
So how much money am I making right now, whether
it's enough or not.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Be grateful for whatever you have, whether it's enough or not.
And then where does the trauma come from? And for
every trauma point that you find as it pertains to money,
I want you to ask yourself a simple question, and
that is is it possible that this is not the truth?
And if there is any possibility that what you have

(46:50):
been telling yourself and living in your life experience is
not true, then I want you to challenge it.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
That's the law of polarity.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
The law of polarity says, if there is lack, there
is also abundance.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
Both have to be true at the same time. So
for you to be.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Living paycheck to paycheck, there has to be somebody out
there who's swimming in money, because that's a universal law.
God designed it that way, and if it can happen
for one, that means it can happen for you. Because
God is no respector of persons. We just have to
be willing to challenge what we true, what we choose

(47:25):
to believe as truth, in order to begin.

Speaker 4 (47:30):
To change into something else. That's it.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
I probably oversimplified it, but that's it. It can be
that simple. Everything doesn't have to be hard. Everything doesn't
have to require sweat beyond your brow for it to
be real.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Berniell you, I don't know. I feel some type of
way because you didn't tell us that you be preaching
on Monday, and you ever preaching. This is good, okay, this.

Speaker 4 (47:54):
Is what happens when you bring me out late at
night I'm supposed to.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Be sleep or almost that I promised. I'm gonna wrap
up good.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
Look, I'm right away. I might go outside and run
of mind with y'all. I'm so hyped right now.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
I want to do a two parter. It's a very
quick question that that is important. And then another question
that it also feels important, but it shouldn't take like, yeah,
this shouldn't take that long. So the first question is
one just to give you context. We are manifesting the multimillions, okay,
like we are in that energy space. That's what we're
bringing in the next years about the blow up. It's
about to be incredible. And I want to know for
you what does it feel like to be wealthy so

(48:28):
that we can tap into that energy and how you
explain exap when I do my visualizations, I want to
tap into that energy of how you explain the wealth
and what it feels like for you when you wake
up and just to see that money in that bank account,
I want to ask that. And then the other question,
just to tighten there, is how do you navigate spaces
where you feel or sense envy, jealousy or like mean

(48:49):
girl energy? Because one of the things I've noticed about
myself over the years is I would shrink myself because
I don't want anyone to not like me. I don't
want to be in that and like it's just uncomfortable.
So you, as a beautiful, confident woman amost fifty, where
how do you navigate that those are the two questions.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
So today it feels completely normal to be wealthy, but
it wasn't always that way. So let me quantify it
and give you some real juicy adjectives. It feels like
you can make a decision at any point in time
about anything that is pertaining to money without having to
think about it. So one of the things I pray

(49:24):
every single day. I literally when I wake up and
I open my eyes in the morning, I say, thank
you Lord, I'm so grateful that I have more money
than I can give, give, invest, save, or spend.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
And that is the order in which I move money.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
I give first, then I invest, then I spend, then
I save.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
And then I spend.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
So it means that you don't have to go and
look at how much something costs if it's something that
you truly desire. Now, I just told my mom told
me my first definition or first memory of money was
money is only for what you need. Well, today, I
you know, I have a really nice house, I drive
a really nice car. I don't need I mean, I

(50:13):
need a house, but I don't need this particular house
seventy seven hundred square feet. I don't need this house, right,
I don't I don't need the car that I drive.
But what I realize is because I am God's daughter,
and because before I was formed in my mother's womb,
he knew me, and he approved me. He called me profit,
he gave me a message to share with the nations.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
It means that I am worthy of all the.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Abundance for him being willing to sacrifice his son for
Darnielle Antoinette. So I move in that energy at all times,
and now that my money has lined up to that reality, I'm.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
Still a good steward of it. I'm not wasteful.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
I you know, I indulge when I feel the desire
to do so, Like I'm about to go on my
birthday trip to Bali first clad, Like, ain't nobody going on?

Speaker 4 (51:07):
No, I got two flights.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
One flight is eighteen hours, the other flight is seven hours.
That means it's gonna take me a whole day to
get the Bali.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
Ain't nobody being in coach.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
I don't fly coach domestically, So I'm absolutely not flying
coach internationally. And I'm not saying that to brag, but
I'm saying it that that is normal for me. And
so before I had money, I drove around neighborhoods, not
gated communities because you know you can't usually get into them, but.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
Really nice houses.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
I would go on Sundays, I would go to open houses,
like I would find that here in Delaware, Greenville is
where all the big mc mansions are, and.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
I would go.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
I had a good friend that was a realtor, and
she would take me so we could walk through the
houses and I could feel how it would feel to
lead live there, and I could visualize. I could literally
sit on the couch in the living room and imagine
that it were my home, and I could raise my
vibration to anchor into that feeling.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
That's why I love this question.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Right.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
I'm not a big label girl, like I mean, I
have a few labels now, but they definitely came later
in life. But that was never my thing. But today,
if I decide that I want that, I can now.
I do have a Louis Vaton bad actually have too,
but I also spend ten thousand dollars buying Louis Vauton stock.

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So if I'm willing to put it on me, I
also have to do something to put it in me,
like to create more that I'll be able to leave
to my lineage. Like, that's my rule again, give first,
and that second, save third, spend fourth.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
That's the way that I move my money.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
And I have an amazing relationship with money today, Like
I go on money dates.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
What's a money date?

Speaker 2 (52:53):
A money date is when you spend time looking at
your money and you affirm it and you talk good
to it. Like, think about how if you go on
a date with a guy if you're not married, right,
you you even if you are married, especially right, you
want them to tell you you look nice, and you
want them to make you feel safe and special.

Speaker 4 (53:10):
Well, that's what I do with my money.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
I believe in the principle of what you focusing, what
you focus on expanding, So you put your focus on
whatever you want to grow. Now, there's a fine line
between focusing and obsessing. But when you are building a
relationship with money, just like you're building a relationship with
any other human, You're gonna spend time with them, right,
You're gonna get to know them, You're gonna ask them questions.

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You're gonna spend you know, hours on the phone or
go out to the mall or whatever the things are
to get to know them, well, you got to do
the same thing with money. But it just it feels
really really good, it feels really really normal, And when
it didn't feel that way yet, I put myself in
situations to feel the energy of it so that I
could imagine what it what it would be would be like.

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So that's the first question, and then the second question,
you know, how do you handle mean girl energy? Best
book I ever read in my life was What You
think of Me Is None of My Business?

Speaker 4 (54:05):
By Terry Cole Whittaker. So when I was in high.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
School, I think it was there was a girl once
who was like, you think you're cute. I don't know
where this came from, y'all, but my response to her was, Oh,
I don't need to think I'm cute because you're thinking
it for me.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
So what am I saying?

Speaker 2 (54:23):
I don't spend my energy focused on what any other
person thinks. I know who I am, I know whose
I am, I know every every scratch or bruise that
I have on my body, for all the things that
I've been through. I know everything that I have today.
I earned it, and because of that, I don't need

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to be validated by anyone else.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
Now that's today.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
That wasn't always my story, but right, but today I'm
validated and I don't need anybody else liking me.

Speaker 4 (54:54):
Or love I mean, it's great, sure, like me, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Like me, please like me right at the same time,
But if you don't like me, that doesn't make me
any less of God's chosen. It doesn't give me any
less of an anointing, and it doesn't make me any
less capable of living out the power to create wealth.
And so you just have to make the decision that
you'll be nice.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
Now you don't.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
I don't think you have to be cantankerous, right Like
I'm nice, I'm generous, I speak to people, you know,
and I'm an introvert. But I don't I don't people please,
And that maybe to my detriment sometimes because I have
been in spaces and places with people that other people
fall over and I'm just like she put her pennies
on one leg at a time, like I do like she,

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you know what I mean? Like and not just because
of that. I don't get caught up in that. And
I think that anybody who wouldn't want to know me
and build a relationship with me is dumb like I mean,
I'm an amazing human like like serious if when when
I approach you, if my confidence bumps up against your

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insecurity and then it creates this reaction in you that
is your problem, not mine, Like I'm not internalizing that.
I'm not taking that on you know how they say,
and I think it was Newton Energy is neither lost
nor destroyed, is merely transferred. I'm not taking on your
negative energy. I'm going to stay in my positive energy
because I already know that I'm going to do way
more good by being positive energy than I am succumbing

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to whatever it is that you have in there.

Speaker 4 (56:26):
So I'm nice, I'm cordial. But when you mean girl me,
I just know that it's you.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
Can't handle the anointing all my life, and instead of
being excited that assists is out here getting it, you
feel some kind of way because it's not you, that's
lack and scarcity. I live in the land of abundance,
which means that I can celebrate you and be excited
for you having what you have, knowing that it don't
have nothing to do with me getting what I'm supposed
to have.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
So that's yeah, that was so beautiful and yell. We
thank you so much for your time and your energy.
We spent a lot of time with you on this
late night but we appreciate all the gems and the
work you're doing in the world, and we know this
episode is going to bless so many people. Can you
let our listeners know how can they support you? Where
can they touch base with you and support your work?
Let them know.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
So, if anything I said during this episode just got
you feeling all warm and fuzzy, I want to invite
you to go to move to millions gifts dot com.
I've curated a special bundle of many of the things
that we got into in this conversation, tools that you
can use that will help you to begin the journey
of shifting the way you see yourself and the way

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that you see money. I believe that until your relationship
with yourself with success and wealth is your sanctuary, your
move to Millions is in jeopardy. I have a new
program that I'm going to be launching later this year,
in twenty twenty five, and then it'll be out in
the world after that, called Sanctuary, which is an opportunity

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to learn the science, the spirit, and the somatics of
wealth and money so that you can finally, once and
for all, feel safe with money and create your own sanctuary.
It's work that we need to have, especially in our community.
We need to understand how this works, because we came
here as at a deficit, right Like, first of all,
we were snatched and brought here. We didn't come here

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of our own volition, and in being here, even though
it's twenty twenty five, in many ways, we are still
behind and it doesn't help the scenario that we are experienced.
We have experienced massive financial trauma in addition to some
of the other traumas. Because at the end of the day,
fortunately or fortunately depending upon how you look at it,

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cash rules everything around us, right like, our ability to
have money equals the amount of choices that we have
and the amount of decisions that we can make to
support ourselves, to support our children, to support the future,
to create a financial legacy.

Speaker 4 (58:52):
So unless we get our money up, then.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Our ability to be able to change things is going
to stay down. And unless we learn how to feel
safe with money, then we're not going to be able
to walk into the wealth that is our birthright. And
the whole reason why we're here, and so I'm just
trying to do my part, my little corner of the
earth to help as many people as I possibly can
start to feel safe with money so that they can
experience experience the abundance that is their birthright.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Beautifully stated, thank you so much, thank you.

Speaker 4 (59:21):
Thanks for having me. This was so good.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
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