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SPEAKER_02 (00:39):
Hey, it's Parlay Pete.
How you doing, man?

SPEAKER_05 (00:44):
Well, hello, neighbor.
Where you been?
I've just been tending to mygreens and tomatoes and whatnot
out here.

SPEAKER_06 (00:56):
How's the family?

SPEAKER_05 (01:00):
They're good.
They're good, Lee.
How are you doing?

SPEAKER_02 (01:02):
Oh man, not too bad.
You know, I'm just sitting here.
Uh, you know, wearing somechampionship George gear, you
know, I I just couldn't I justcouldn't put on anything else.
I I just wanted to feel I wantedto feel good today, so I put on
some champion gear.

SPEAKER_05 (01:21):
You wanted to feel something.

SPEAKER_02 (01:24):
Yeah, you know, yeah.
It's like micropenis.

SPEAKER_05 (01:30):
Look, it's it's it's certainly something that we've
all dealt with, and I think wedeal with maybe a little too
much, um, at least when it comesin regards to the team that
we're gonna end up starting offwith.
But um first of all, onlybecause I didn't catch the
beginning of the show.
I have no idea if they addressedit or how it went.

(01:50):
Happy fucking birthday.
Um, obviously, today is not yourbirthday, but for the audience
out there, yesterday was Lee'sbirthday.

SPEAKER_02 (01:58):
Thank you, thank you, and thank everyone for the
birthday wishes.
I greatly appreciate them.
And for those who didn't send mebirthday wishes, noted.

SPEAKER_05 (02:10):
Noted.
Noted.
Noted, noted, noted.
Um, let's talk a little bitabout it.
Did you end up at least gettingsomething decent to eat?
Like, what did you I knowobviously you had to work and
it's on a weekday, but I mean,did you did you cook yourself a

(02:30):
good meal?
Did your mom make you a meal?

SPEAKER_02 (02:33):
Uh my mom wanted to go out to eat, but uh I had to
record with the guys for thevillage vets, and I thought that
would be a great birthdayexperience because I didn't go
out.
I don't have you know a lady inmy life who would just, you
know, pamper me for my birthday.
So um I have some uh smotheredpork chops that I made the other

(02:57):
day.
Okay, a little brown gravy oversome rice uh with some corn and
some green beans.

SPEAKER_05 (03:06):
I'm not mad at that meal.

SPEAKER_02 (03:07):
Yeah, no, I I enjoyed it, and I and like I
said, we had a great podyesterday, bro.
Like, so kind of a quick recapon it because we had this one
topic, and I was like, bro, youyou would have loved this topic.

SPEAKER_06 (03:21):
Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 (03:21):
Because Todd's getting ready to become a dab.
So he wanted to just address iton the show.
Um to head on.
I mean, yeah, but like he wantedto address like some of the
women who had some not so nicethings to say once, you know, he
popped out with his lady andbaby on the way and all of that

(03:42):
stuff, you know, like you know,hit dogs holler.

SPEAKER_06 (03:46):
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (03:47):
And he kind of addressed that, and then we kind
of had a conversation around it.
And it was just like a goodconversation because I I'm su
I'm sure it came up in someconversations you had when
people found out.
Well, I don't know.
Because you're not a socialmedia guy.
Did you get any like any likeangry or like bitter anything

(04:11):
when uh people found out thatyou were a dad?

SPEAKER_05 (04:15):
No, I didn't.
Um, I mean, there's some peoplethat don't know to this day, as
crazy as that sounds, and it'snot because it's something that
I hide, but it's not if if we'renot um a well-connected, you
know, like if if I don't talk toyou, or if you're not somebody
that is a part of my daily life,the reality of it is that that's

(04:40):
just not something that I put upon social media.
But anyone that knows me knowsthat I'm a father.
So it's just it's kind of one ofthose things where I don't, I
don't know.
You it's not something you can,I guess, pronounce this type of
stuff to the world, but I Ihaven't done it.

SPEAKER_02 (04:55):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, if if if the people who know,
the people who matter know, andif you don't know, then I bet.

SPEAKER_05 (05:03):
Yeah, I mean, I'm a dad.
It's it's really simple to me,but again, I don't feel the need
to like put my daughter onlineor anything.
It's not nothing against anyonethat does, but like I just are
you put it this way, everybodythat's close to me has met my
daughter.
So it's like so it's like one ofthose things where I don't, you

(05:23):
know.

SPEAKER_02 (05:24):
You're you're trying to hide you're trying to hide
from the women that you have adaughter because they don't
yeah, no, well, they have toknow.

SPEAKER_05 (05:32):
So like they absolutely know too.
Like, you know that I've talkedto, like, of course, they
absolutely know, but like nah,you're hiding it from them.

SPEAKER_02 (05:39):
You're living a double, triple life.

SPEAKER_05 (05:43):
Nah, I would, I would, you know, it's crazy.
I mean, I know Drake had saidit, but like, I wasn't hiding uh
my child from the world.
I was hiding the world from mychild type thing.

SPEAKER_02 (05:53):
Drake was lying, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (05:56):
But that's why I disclaimer that I wasn't lying.
But what he said made a ton ofsense.

SPEAKER_02 (06:01):
So Drake did not want the world to know that he
fathered a child to a soft coreadult actress who he also uh
engaged in uh what they call it,a train with ASAP Rocky with,
yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (06:18):
I don't think he's that that's all hearsay at the
end of the day.
I mean, we don't know it.

SPEAKER_02 (06:24):
That could very well be true, but we well, well,
well, why else would Drake throwuh the line of Brianna?

SPEAKER_05 (06:32):
That could just mean that he slept with her at one
point.

SPEAKER_02 (06:34):
I mean I mean that's what the rumors say, but you
know, you'd be surprised.

SPEAKER_05 (06:39):
This is Morehouse dudes that are friends with guys
whose wives that like they'refriends, but then like my
basically my friends slept withyou.
Yeah, no, and they know that,but they know that, like in the
back of their head, like theyknow that.

SPEAKER_02 (07:00):
Yeah, that doesn't work for me.

SPEAKER_05 (07:02):
It wouldn't work for me either, honestly.
I couldn't, I don't think Icould do that, but there's some
people that are better than methen.

SPEAKER_02 (07:08):
Like they they are I'm not even gonna call it
mature, they're just theirtheirs their skin is a lot
thicker because Well, I'll tellyou, there are some girls that I
have cons at one point in mylife that I wouldn't have
considered dating because theywere uh you know, like with a
guy who was like in my circle.
But if said woman, but saidwoman today could pop into my

(07:32):
life, then I would be perfectlyokay with it, knowing her path
with that other person, but thatperson's like no longer in my
circle, so like it don't matter.

SPEAKER_05 (07:42):
Well, I guess for me, we get some funny comments
here, but I guess for me, I lookat it more from the standpoint
of um you see the comments,they're funny as fuck.
But I guess for me, uh I look atit from the standpoint of I just

(08:03):
wouldn't Yeah, that was like thefirst one, but then yeah.
I think the shit's funny asfuck, even if it's trolling.

SPEAKER_02 (08:15):
But um engagement, we appreciate it.
Let's go through the super chat.

SPEAKER_05 (08:24):
That's what I'm saying.
Like, I think it's funny asfuck, to be completely honest
with you.

SPEAKER_02 (08:28):
Um did I do who?
Did you get botched for our showtoday or something?
No.
Uh did you send the link to ourguest who flaked who got booked
last minute?

SPEAKER_05 (08:41):
I did not.

SPEAKER_02 (08:42):
Yeah, me neither.
Nigga didn't even open thefucking thread.
He just saw it and was like,yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_06 (08:51):
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (08:53):
Because I ain't opened that thread either.
This shit sank.

SPEAKER_05 (09:01):
I think I'm gonna be honest with you.
I'm not even well wait, wait,but I'm not even upset like like
about it.
I think I'm more just like Ithink it's distracting, like
more than anything.
I guess I could probably move itover.

SPEAKER_02 (09:11):
Yeah, let's lock in.
Let's lock in.
Let's let's get ready for ourfirst segment, man.
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (09:19):
I'm telling you, we don't set this party, y'all fry
West Sigh, West Sai.
We don't set this party, y'allcry, man.
She's so self-conscious.

SPEAKER_02 (09:39):
I I wanted to cut it, but you can't really cut
this verse.

SPEAKER_05 (09:44):
No, this is one of the classic Kanye verses that
will always land, and as a songwill never fail, right?

SPEAKER_02 (09:52):
Like the career like we had the conversation last
night.
The verses kind of a versus andlike who will win Drake, Nikki,
and Wayne, or Ye, Jay, andRihanna.

SPEAKER_05 (10:08):
And I'm I don't think that's really a question.

SPEAKER_02 (10:11):
Yeah, right, bro.

SPEAKER_05 (10:12):
I was I was like, I don't just don't have more hits
than Rihanna.
Drake would be the one goingagainst Kanye, and I think
again, I think Kanye, as greatas Drake is, Kanye is versus
God.

SPEAKER_02 (10:27):
That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_05 (10:28):
I don't think he can lose a versus really to anyone,
and then Jay-Z to Wayne.
Well, I guess it just depends.
Like, what are what's the basis?
Because if we're basically, isit mixtape too?

SPEAKER_02 (10:39):
Like what bro, but if we're mix if the if the three
camps go and say it's a 30-songverses, and we're not gonna have
this very we're not gonna dothis long.
Uh, if they do like 30 songs,right?
Well, we're not gonna do 10 fromeach person, we're gonna pick
the 30 best song/slash versesfrom from these people's uh uh

(11:02):
catalog, right?
Because you might have to pullout uh we taking over for Wayne,
you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, that's one of his bestverses.

SPEAKER_05 (11:11):
Or somebody made a very good point, you know.
Wayne, I thought body show mewhat you got more than Jay.
Well, yes, right.
So if he pulls out the mixtapecatalog, he could play, he could
do a song that's a J beat, anactual Jay song, and be like,
okay, well, you play show mewhat you got.

(11:32):
Well, now here's mine.
Like, and do you think Jay wouldallow that?
No, but it but versus versus hasnever been a mixtape thing
anyway.
But then again, we haven'treally had mixtape.

SPEAKER_02 (11:44):
I mean, I guess Gucci and Jeezy kind of but like
I mean Jay has to approve theirtheir their playlist for him to
show up until until Manny Freshis DJing and just plays it.

SPEAKER_05 (12:00):
Nah, that wouldn't happen.

SPEAKER_02 (12:01):
But nah, because you'd be blackballed from the
industry forever.

SPEAKER_05 (12:06):
Them niggas all been blackballed anyways to begin
with.

SPEAKER_02 (12:08):
Yeah, but let's get let's get to to what we're
really here for.
I wish I had some rottentomatoes to throw at this rotten
coach and this rotten footballteam and this rotten handler and
hell.
The DC was fucking rotten lastweek.
Let Bryce Young throw for acareer high.

(12:29):
What 450 and what three tubs?

SPEAKER_05 (12:33):
No turnovers.

SPEAKER_02 (12:34):
No time like this is Bryce Young we're talking about.
The guy with one of the lowestyards per attempt since Vietnam.

SPEAKER_05 (12:44):
Yeah, a guy that if you looked at his stats today,
but somebody said this was in1942, you'd be like, oh, okay,
yeah, that makes sense.
He was running the wishbone.
You know, and so, or or betteryet, this guy was at Army.

(13:04):
You were playing quarterback inArmy.

SPEAKER_02 (13:06):
Bryce Young is good for like 21 for 30 for 174.

SPEAKER_05 (13:12):
Interesting fact, his last three games combined,
he still fell 100 yards short ofwhat he did to us on Sunday.
So think about that.
Three games combined, he didn't,he was 100 yards short.
In touchdowns, he was too short.
And then uh obviously he was uhminus three in the turnover

(13:35):
department in those three, andthen he was plus three in this
game.
And obviously they wereimpressive went against the
Packers, but they were one andtwo in those games.

SPEAKER_02 (13:48):
We're the worst team in the division.

SPEAKER_05 (13:52):
Well, we'll get to find out on Sunday, won't we?
Because that's what's at stake.
Last place.
Well, you know, we lose, we dropto 0 and 4 in the division, we
have the same record as theSaints.
So that would mean we're in lastplace.

SPEAKER_02 (14:06):
I'm not even gonna be able to watch it.

SPEAKER_05 (14:09):
No, the game's at 425.

SPEAKER_02 (14:13):
Oh, that's beautiful.

SPEAKER_05 (14:14):
Yeah, it is a late game.
So, worst case, you would get atleast probably at least you get
there by halftime.

SPEAKER_02 (14:20):
Yeah.
Yeah, I'll just miss that.
I'll just miss first hour.
Yeah, I uh yeah, it'll be morethan halftime.

SPEAKER_05 (14:26):
Yeah, and it's not even a four, it's not a 405
start either.
It's a 425 start.

SPEAKER_02 (14:30):
Yeah, so I should probably I should yeah, first,
it's you'll probably get somesecond quarter.
Yeah, yeah.
I should get some.
This is what I'm saying.
Um but so I did not watch thegame in its entirety.
I did watch the fourth quarterin overtime.
Shout out to the guys who payme.
Uh, what the fuck happened?

(14:51):
Well, let's break it down.
Penix was playing pretty well.
I don't know.
Oh, Terry's getting fired now,by the way.
Is that breaking news?
No, no, no, no.
With Penix having another ACLsurgery, I thought you meant it
was official.

SPEAKER_05 (15:05):
We knew that he was we knew that.

SPEAKER_02 (15:06):
Yeah, but I'm just saying with Penix having another
ACL surgery.

SPEAKER_05 (15:10):
So so before I break down the game, just because
you're bringing up firings, Lee,they're gonna clean house.
And I I I mean, when I say cleanhouse, I think Rich McKay is
gonna be gone too.
I think the house is gonna getcleaned.

SPEAKER_02 (15:25):
I think we need to get cra if Rich McKay gets
fired.
I don't give a damn what anybodysays.
Uh we were one of the firstpeople calling for Rich McKay's
head.

SPEAKER_05 (15:36):
We've been calling for it for years, yeah, like
years.
Like years, but when I thinkpeople think like last year, no,
no, no, no, years, yeah.
We're on like year four of yearfive of calling for Matt Ryan
still had another year, anotheruh training camp to get ready
for with the Falcons when wewere calling for this.

(15:59):
So, like it's it's this isn'tsomething new.
Uh, I want to say that COVID wasstill shutting down certain
states when we were talkingabout this, and so you know, my
my biggest thing is this.
Uh, I spoke with Justice, wespoke at nauseum about it
because we were talking aboutthe betting odds for Sunday.

SPEAKER_02 (16:18):
Hey, you want to call you wanna do our quick
piece, then call give him acall?

SPEAKER_05 (16:23):
Because we're he might be he might be uh Ubering.
Okay.
Now he might be okay to still doit.
Yeah, if you want, shoot him atext.
But we talked about um thisbecause basically, uh, once
Penix obviously got ruled outofficially, we kind of knew

(16:44):
because they had said itanyways.
And it was weird because wedidn't know.
So on Sunday, so when he gothurt, nobody knew the severity.
It was just like, oh, he's notgonna return.
But he was on the sideline, he'ssmiling, like he's on the, you
know, he's on the sideline, likehe's not in the locker room.
So it's like, okay, MichaelPenix might not like he tweaked.

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I don't know.
You know, you don't know.
Nobody knows.
It wasn't like a oh, he's andand even when he went down, he
walked off the field.
So again, nobody really knowswhat's going on, but um you look
at the game and the way that ittranspired, and you just you
don't just shake your head tothe idea of well, the Carolina

(17:28):
Panthers swept the Falcons.
It's just more along the linesof this.
What are we really doing?
How do we get better in oneposition that has plagued us for
years?
Which is getting to thequarterback.
We're second in the NFL insacks.
We're second, we're second.

SPEAKER_02 (17:50):
And I hate real quick, you're already seeing
them creating the narrative ofthe Falcons being dumb for
trading the first round pick.
They got the right player.
Remember the player.
Don't think about the projecteddraft pick.
They got the player.

SPEAKER_05 (18:10):
Well, I think we would have to see if there's a
player that's drafted in thisclass that's a pass rusher
that's better than him.

SPEAKER_02 (18:19):
No, no, not even a pass rusher.

SPEAKER_05 (18:21):
Think who impact that could have helped our team.

SPEAKER_02 (18:25):
What player in college football have we watched
that would be a need for theFalcons or a, because you could
say quarterback is a need,right?
But uh they they're not gonna,they probably don't do that
unless they clean house, butlike a position worth a top 10
pick and a player that wouldhave immediate impact.

SPEAKER_05 (18:48):
And we also got Xavier Watts.
People have to remember that wedid get a third from them too in
that deal, and Xavier Watts wasthe pick.
Now, this is what I was gonnasay, because you were saying
what player get back to yourpoint.

SPEAKER_02 (19:00):
I just wanted to throw that out there before I
forgot about it.
Because I it's a very importantthing to note that we didn't
lose that trade.

SPEAKER_05 (19:09):
Lee, we did not lose that trade.
We're about to eat up at least45 minutes here.
Oh, yeah, I'm seriously talkingabout this because it will be a
deep dive.
But okay, to my point, the ideawas this.
We lead, we're second in the NFLin sacks.

(19:30):
We've been uh probably four ofthe last five years have been
last, and then I know one of theyears we were like second to
last.
But over the last five years, wedon't have that type of
production out of that position.
Now we do.
Now we do.
You got this production at thisposition, but we're continuously
losing games now.
So it's kind of like how do youtake one step forward at maybe

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even two steps forward at theworst position that you've had
all season?
And then everywhere else itseems like you took a step back.
You're six and three last year,or six and four.
We'll even say six and four,because we're 10 games in.
You're six and four last year atthis point.
You're in first place in thedivision.
You're two wins over Tampaoptimistic about the future,

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even though things aren't great.
It still is like, okay, thisteam is still a playoff team.
Like, you can do this.
Terry Fonneau, it's so I hate itfor him because he's not truly
of all of the big three, coach,GM, president, he deserves to

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keep his job the most.
But you gotta clean house.
Yeah, you gotta fucking cleanhouse, man.
This season is it's not onlyover already, but like they've
got it, they've gotta dosomething completely different.
Like all the way around.

SPEAKER_02 (21:00):
I I this sounds so podcasty local radio trying to
go viral.
I think Arthur Blank needs tosell the team.
Now we can fire Rich, give it acouple years, and see now, mind
you, this is me talking as aFalcons fan and what we need to

(21:21):
be successful, not me talkingabout real life and business.
He should not sell the team forbusiness purposes.
And I don't think he will.
But the organization isn'tbuttoned up.
We don't win, like we losegames.
Every outside of shit.

(21:43):
Really outside of Matt Ryan'slast year.
We've predicted the Falconswould win 10 or 11 games.
Well, doesn't it seem like we'realmost being trolled?
But yeah, but hold on.
We can pull up the games and gothrough them and talk you to our

(22:07):
prediction.
And not like hyperbole, like,oh, we got screwed here.
It's like, nah, bruh, niggadropped a pass wide open.
Oh no.
Uh they got in the field goalrange and he made the field
goal, or he missed the fieldgoal, or we made the field goal.
Then on the kickoff, uh the guybroke to like the 38 and they

(22:32):
got two first downs in 10seconds of game time, and uh
they're about to walk it offwith their field goal kick.
You know what I mean?
Like, yeah, or we miss an extrapoint, or we have a stupid
two-point conversion that wegive up like early in the game,
and then that changes the thatchanges it from ties to to field

(22:52):
goal only gives you a two-pointlead, you know what I'm saying?
And they and or they're up one,you know.
Just the weird stuff thathappens to the Falcons.
So, like it's crazy becauseevery year we make similar
predictions and you see italmost play out.

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So it's not just the players,it's not just the coaches, it's
not the quarterback, it's notthe GM, there's only two people.
Front-facing people.
Obviously, there are otherpeople who are in their ears
that have been there forever.

There's two constants (23:29):
Rich and Arthur.
Well, you know what?
The owner's never gonna firehimself.
I I I mean, as an owner of ateam, the Falcons are a consumer

(23:49):
product.
They are a good and a service.
At some point you gotta listento you gotta listen to your to
you gotta look read the commentsection.
You know what I mean?
You don't you gotta read theYelp reviews.
If you start getting the samecomments and the same Yelp
reviews, you know, every girlleaves you for the same reason.

(24:13):
It's not them.
It just might be you.
Rich McKay.
It's not all these people youfucking fired over the last 20
years.
It might be you again, ArthurBlank.
I could say the same thing toyou, but you own this.

(24:36):
You can do whatever you damnwell please.
And I am in no position to tellyou uh what you should do in the
best interest for your uhportfolio because uh you could
buy me uh many, many, many,many, many, many, many, many,
many, many, many, many timesover.
Like you could the amount ofmoney that you could that would

(25:01):
take for this podcast to be agreat podcast, you wouldn't miss
it.
Like if we just stole a couplemillion from you to get this
thing really up and running,like build out a fucking studio,
all this other shit, and havesome money to pay some people to
come sit and talk to us to makeus look cool and get one of

(25:23):
those nice little green walls totake pictures with our guests
after.

SPEAKER_05 (25:25):
Oh man, not the green wall.

SPEAKER_02 (25:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Arthur, you wouldn't youwouldn't miss it.
Like your your your money's gotyour money guys, like assistant,
assistant's assistant would bethe one who would catch it.
And it would never get to youbecause it'd be like, bro, don't
bother Arthur about two milliondollars.
He's gonna make us do way toomuch work for some money he
doesn't care about.

SPEAKER_05 (25:52):
I don't think Arthur is in totality the problem
because he's done a lot of goodfor the Falcons.
Like, I'm not the type of personthat looks at what he's done for
the community.
For the Falcons.
I think that he's done a lot ofgood.
Right?
A lot of people don't realizehow bad ownership was prior to

(26:20):
him.
Now, the only reason I even knowI was only seven, uh, seven,
eight.
But the thing is, is this a lotdid change that I could
recognize even as a kid.
Not just the winning, like, wedid win more.

(26:40):
You know, they changed thejerseys, right?
Vic, Jim Warren, like we changedthe jerseys, but like a lot just
changed.
It felt like the Falcons wereheaded in a direction of we're
tired of being obscure.

SPEAKER_06 (26:56):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (26:57):
So like when I look at him, I don't think that he
does not not want to win.
I think that whoever, aside fromRich McKay, who's obviously his
right-hand man in football, it'sthe other people around him that
weren't telling him, get rid ofthis fucking motherfucker.

(27:17):
Because this has gone on for aminute now.
It's hard to believe that he'sbonded this friendship with him.
And that's why we always makethis joke of like he's in the
Epstein Files, and like, andRich has the proof.
Because it almost doesn't makesense because of what has
happened over the past few yearswith the Falcons.

(27:40):
It's one thing to have a coupleof down years.
As good as Arthur Blank'sownership has been, this has
easily been the worst portion ofFalcons football in the
franchise's uh history.
They've never gone more than sixyears without making the
playoffs.
We're about to be on year eight.

(28:00):
Think about that.
You spent this money on theBrowns.
You paid a quarterback$100million coming off an injury,
and then you drafted aquarterback that has knee
problems and is like noted kneeproblems.

SPEAKER_02 (28:15):
And you like my and you were trying to get Deshaun
Watson.

SPEAKER_05 (28:21):
While chasing out the best thing that's ever
happened to the franchise, theone the one thing that's brought
stability.
We've got plenty of greatplayers.
Anyone can argue me to theirblue in the face.
Julio's a Hall of Famer.
Matt Ryan might not be.
But who's more important to thefranchise?
Matt Ryan.
Yeah, absolutely.
Matt Ryan's more important tothe Falcons than Julio Jones.

(28:44):
I don't care what anyone says.
Because he is.
But you chased him out to get adude who ended up being butt.
Now, I we don't know how itwould have played out if he
played here in reality.
I mean, he did go to Cleveland,but like I mean, he could have
been better.
He might have been happier here.

SPEAKER_02 (29:04):
Cleveland's been to the playoffs twice in the last
eight years.
Did he play in any of thoseplayoff games, Lee?
No, I'm just saying you'resaying it's Cleveland, but hell,
over the last eight years,they've they've ran a better
operation than we have.

SPEAKER_05 (29:19):
Yeah.
They won one playoff game.

SPEAKER_02 (29:23):
They've had ups and downs.
We've just been stagnant.
Stagnant.
Well, it's been like we wentdown, then we just stayed at the
water.

SPEAKER_05 (29:33):
Yeah, no, we're riding a wave.
But the way it's not a high tidetype wave either.
Like it's just like a you know,something to where you're okay
with your kids going out therewith their their boogie board.
Bro, we we might not even getthey won't really get swept by
under that wave.

SPEAKER_02 (29:48):
Bro, we might not get the eight and nine special
this year.
Or the seven and ten piece.
We might be talking six andeleven.
Five and twelve.

SPEAKER_05 (30:08):
I think that the biggest issue with the Falcons,
and this is, you know, almostlike us in a confessional at
this point at a Catholic church.
It's not like the Falcons can'tdo this.
And when I say do this, I meanbe a consistently good
franchise.

(30:28):
Not winning the Super Bowl, be aconsistently good franchise.
You know why?
Because we've actually seen thembe a consistently good franchise
for at least half a decade.
At least half a decade.
We've seen it.
From 2008 to 2013.
Bro, no.
They made the playoffs fourtimes.

(30:49):
So like go 08 to 17.

SPEAKER_02 (30:52):
No, no.
Go 08 to 17.
That whole, even though we hadsome down years just the 08 to
17, that that in a 10-yearstretch, you made it six out of
you made it six out of tentimes.

SPEAKER_05 (31:04):
And even and this is why I did the five-year sample,
because even in that five-yearstretch, the year we didn't make
it, we were nine and seven.
So it wasn't like we had awinning record even that year,
right?
Like we were, you know, MattRyan missed two games this
second year.
And who knows?
Chris Rodden started thosegames.
Imagine if he played, weprobably might have made it a
fifth five straight years.

(31:25):
But I think that it all startsat the top.
And again, to get back to thepoint of how we even got here,
Arthur Blank.
I plead with Arthur Blank to dothis.
I don't have an issue with himas an owner for the city of
Atlanta.
I have an issue with him as anowner of a football team.

(31:49):
Please hire somebody that knowssomething about football if you
don't care enough to know aboutit yourself.
Jared cares to know abouthimself.
Urse's daughter, and Urse, forwhat it's worth, who a lot of
people don't realize this.
You're the gym.
Exactly.
He worked in football.
Like he worked in football too.
And which is why I'm sure hisdaughter is so passionate.

(32:11):
That's why her ass is on thefucking field.
Please hire somebody that doescare about it.
I know he's an older dude.
I know Jerry's pretty old too,but like I mean, Jerry played at
Arkansas.
Nobody's asking Arthur to beMark Cuban.
We're not asking you to be allup in the GM's ear, the coaches

(32:34):
here, you know, come to deathrow.
Nobody's asking him to do that.
What we're asking you to do,stop listening to Rich McKay.
Fire Rich McKay.
That's the first thing anyoneshould do in this organization.
Even before Roth, Zach Robinson,anyone else's fake.
Let's get Rich out of there.
You know what?
You fire Rich.

(32:55):
You know, now Ra is still a badcoach.
I don't care what anybody says.

SPEAKER_02 (33:01):
You replace a bad head coach.
You replace Rich before you evenfire anybody else.
Like Rich needs to be fired intwo weeks.
Rich?
Rich needs to retire.

SPEAKER_05 (33:20):
Well, and I feel like that's what's gonna end up
happening.
It will be a Rich McKay, it's amutual uh party.
That's what I think to saveface.
Now, Atlanta rejoices because ofit, but okay, so this gets back
into the to the conversation Ihad with Justice, because we

(33:40):
talked about this because itcame down to the betting angle.
And I was like, the Falcons areinconsistent.
You shouldn't bet on the Falconsever.
Well, that's the point.
And so, like, but then we brokeit down and we went deeper
because then we started talkingabout well, who's we know that
everybody in there knows thatthey're dead man walking.
There's no way, let me tell you,seriously, I will proclaim this

(34:01):
today on November 19th at 8:56p.m.
2025.
If Raheem Morris or Rich McKayis still with the Falcons, I
will no longer support thisteam.
If they're there at the end ofthe year, I'm not supporting

(34:22):
this team anymore.
And I mean it.
I really do mean it because Ican't continue to invest
Sundays.
Fuck the money.
That's already been spent, andthen whatever's gonna get spent
would get spent.
I can't emotionally invest inthis team anymore.

(34:44):
I can't do it.
Like, I can't do it from thatperspective.
Like, it's one thing to justhave a bad roster and like
knowing shit's gonna be lousy.
It's another thing to have awide receiver who, again, has
missed a game, is top five inreceiving yards.
You've got a running back who istop three in all-purpose yards,

(35:06):
but only behind the presumablefront runner of an MVP if there
was one that wasn't aquarterback, and Jonathan Taylor
and then Christian McCaff.
You've got that at your runningback and your fucking wide
receiver.
And your second and sacks.
Oh, and you're second and sacksin the NFL.
This is bullshit, and everybodyshould look at it that way.

(35:29):
This is bullshit, and anyonethat thinks that this is okay,
you continue to be a fool.
But I'm not gonna continue to befooled by this shit.
Not anymore.
So you know what?

SPEAKER_02 (35:43):
A thing about that is how many good one o'clock
window games have we missedbecause we're watching the
Falcons, you know, whether atthe game or watching just on
Fox.
Yeah, or or like watching theFalcons at home because you know

(36:03):
you're gonna be watching theFalcons, and it's like, man, I
could have gone to brunch andcasually watch football today.
And had and and and I would havehad fun, and I still would have
known what's going on withfootball.
No, I'm hammered at four o'clockand I'm pissed off.

SPEAKER_05 (36:29):
You're hammered.
You you spent a lot of money ona ticket, a lot of money on PSL,
a lot of money, potentially onalcohol, gas.
Like, now look, I get it.
Let's not act like this.
Let's not act like some of thisstuff isn't it.
This stuff is baked into theexperience.

(36:49):
So, like, I don't want to mebringing up gas or anything, you
don't have to drive down there,but that is baked into the
experience, win or lose.
And you know that we're notgonna go undefeated.
So there's gonna be times thatyou go and you're not gonna win.
It's not about that, it's aboutyears of doing it.
It's about it's like, let metell you, it's like, it's like,
it's like being abused, like,and I know that this is such a

(37:11):
bad way to like try and say it,but no, I need people to hear me
out.
Yeah, I've never been abused, soI guess it's like, well, how can
I speak on something I've neverbeen?
I can only imagine what it'slike to be abused, but whenever
I hear those that have beenabused stories, the way that I
take it is that this goes on foryears, and you kind of continue

(37:33):
to take it because that is theway that it seems every time
I've heard it.
I've never heard hit once, andthen the nigga gets locked up
for forever or white man,whoever it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_02 (37:43):
Let me nigga is too gentle, but like but hey,
remember this you deal with themhitting you because but it
doesn't even have to be physicalabuse, right?
Right, right, right.
I mean, you deal with the abusebecause you can't imagine your
life without that person.
I can't imagine not being aFalcons fan, right?

SPEAKER_05 (38:05):
Which is which is why I'm comparing it to the
abuse.

SPEAKER_02 (38:08):
Like, I'm just helping you drive it home more
so like people don't think we'rebeing like no.

SPEAKER_05 (38:15):
I just don't I don't want anyone to think I'm being
insensitive about it, but likeit is it's it's it's obviously
abuse to fans because that isthat is what this feels it feels
like abuse, bro.
It feels like we're beingabused, whether it's
financially, uh for some peoplelooking at the bad days when the

(38:39):
Falcons lose.
Me too.
I mean, I and when I sayfinancially too, I don't just
mean buying the goddamn ticket.
I mean, I've bet on the teamtoo.
Now look, that's my problem.
But like, but at the end of thewell, still, it's it's just like
somebody can say buying theticks is your problem.
But like, I'm just saying whensomething uh what's the

(39:03):
definition of insanity, Lee?

SPEAKER_01 (39:05):
Uh doing the same thing over and over and
expecting a different result.

SPEAKER_05 (39:10):
Bingo, so that's exactly what's going on here
with this Rich McKay thing, andthat's why I didn't mind
pronouncing this about what,five minutes ago.
That I just won't support theteam anymore.
Because if he's not, if he'sthere at the start of the draft,

(39:32):
I can't do it anymore because Iknow what's gonna happen.
Like, imagine being a fan ofscary movies and knowing who the
fuck's gonna die every singletime.
You know they're gonna trip overthe wire, you know that Jason or
Freddie's gonna be right there,and there's nothing you can do
about it, but continue to watchit over and over again, knowing

(39:55):
they're gonna get slaughtered.

SPEAKER_02 (39:58):
I ain't gonna hold you.
I was thinking the other day,I'm like, dang, I might do like
a Hawks 10-piece or 20-piecenext year.
Which we will get to that if youuh I know if you yeah, I I I I I
did I did my I I went throughpre-production.
Come on now, I'm a professor.
No, like I like I'm reallythinking about I might just do

(40:20):
that instead because man, fuckit.

SPEAKER_05 (40:23):
Are the braids, goddammit.
I mean, at least with them.

SPEAKER_01 (40:26):
It's the battery.

SPEAKER_05 (40:27):
They're closer to you right now.
I know that once you move down,but they're closer to you now.
The tickets are cheaper on a pergame basis.

unknown (40:36):
That's the battery.

SPEAKER_05 (40:40):
They're winners, they won.
Yeah.
Fuck the Risa World series,they're just winners in general.
Yeah, yeah, we want to win thewhole thing, but gosh, again,
like you said, you said this afew weeks ago, you said it
multiple times over the pastyears to about a one Julian
turn.
Man, I died to be in yourposition.
I'm okay with just gosh, if weif if if if our stagnant is make

(41:05):
the playoffs every year and havea winning season, sign me up.
Sign me up, god damn it.

SPEAKER_02 (41:11):
I mean, just think about this with the Braves,
right?
They had a down year, they gothot laid.
Injuries, a lot of injuries.
They had injuries, but but thatwas like an injury thing, too.
But we yeah, we were bummed outabout it when everything was
happening, but once the seasonwas lost, it's like, all right,
who cares?

(41:31):
And it's not because you're lessinvested, it's because they have
so much goodwill built up thatif the team isn't competing for
a season, you're not mad.
Like that hurts a lot less thanlosing to the the Dodgers in the

(41:52):
playoffs, honestly.

SPEAKER_05 (41:54):
That that and then when when Vegas, which Vegas
doesn't like to lose money andthey don't lose money.
That's why they're still inbusiness.
Vegas, when they set the odds towhere Super Team Dodgers
favorite plus 210, then youlook, it's like, well, who's
plus 300 right behind them?
It's the fucking Braves.

(42:14):
Meaning, you know, if the if thegoddamn team that now, now
they've won it two years in arow, but like if the fucking
team with the best player ofpossibly this generation, along
with two other MVPs, one comingfrom the Brazil, there's one
team that's gonna stop them.
It's gonna be them goddamnBraves.
I want to be in that type ofcompany.

(42:35):
I want to be, I want to be towhere if the Chiefs are the
favorite in the NFL every yearbecause they have Patrick
Mahomes and Andy Reid, thenwe're the Bills, we're the
Ravens, we're the Eagles.
We're we're we're you know whatI mean?
We're the what like like I wantto be in that conversation to
start the year every year, evenafter the down year.

(42:55):
The Braves had a down year theyear before that.
Like, like we lost in theplayoffs in the first round to
the Padres, and they were stillsecond.
Like they were still fuckingsecond.
And so, like, I want to be apart of that conversation.
I would rather be disappointedin the Braves like they were in
the 90s for going to so many andnot winning them as opposed to

(43:18):
just not being in theconversation.
I want to be at the table, evenif I don't order the biggest
state.
I want to eat, I want to eat alittle bit.
I don't want to be looked at onthe outside and not be able to
afford it.
Like, I don't want to be in thatconversation.
So be it.
Well, and that's where we're at.

(43:40):
Yeah, we we don't have anythingto to bring to to a football
conversation to anyone asidefrom just knowledge of the game
when it comes to just talkingabout our team, because it's
just like, oh, all right, well,anyways, we're talking about
winning football over here.
We can't have that conversation.

SPEAKER_02 (44:00):
No, like and and the worst part is if somebody who's
not a falcons fan, right?
It's like, man, what's forwhat's up with the Falcons, man?
Y'all got Drake London, the passrush, uh Bichon?

SPEAKER_00 (44:15):
Hold on.

SPEAKER_02 (44:16):
It's like how much time do you have?
Let's start with Rich McKay.

SPEAKER_05 (44:24):
Rich McKay.
Yeah, that is where this stuffstarts, though.

SPEAKER_02 (44:28):
Who's Rich McKay?

SPEAKER_05 (44:30):
Let me let me school you.
You remember when the Rams wonthe Super Bowl?
Yeah, well, his daddy used toown the team, yeah.
And he kind of took overfootball a little bit.
He gets credit for being the GM.
Tony Johnny built it, JohnGruden executed it.
But he gets credit for itbecause he's a part of the

(44:54):
organization and he had a title.
So from there, he wins the SuperBowl, uh, goes another year
after that, gets hired by theFalcons.

SPEAKER_02 (45:06):
He's a DM to the same job.

SPEAKER_05 (45:08):
In the same job, but he just comes to Atlanta because
Arthur Blank was basically newto the owning game.
And he needed, he fired DanReeves.

SPEAKER_02 (45:20):
He probably went through the league office to get
somebody.

SPEAKER_05 (45:23):
Which obviously he's highly respected.
That's why he's the head of thecompetition committee.
But that's what his fucking jobshould be.
If he's that respected, let himwork for Roger and Roger owner,
and I guess the owners.
But don't let him work for oneowner.

SPEAKER_02 (45:38):
Like no, don't let him work for my owner.

SPEAKER_05 (45:40):
And then, and then, and then, and then we owner of
my favorite team, sorry.
And then, and then we get tohear more and more about oh, um,
you know, Roger.
Uh, or no, you get to hear moreand more about, oh, uh, Rich
McKay stepped away.
Rich McKay is not, he doesn'teven deal with football.

(46:02):
He he deals with uh the fuckingstadium and the business.
He deals with the soccer team.
The soccer teams fucking wentdown.
I want you to really thinkabout, let's take a deeper dive
into Rich McKay.
They said that he moved over tosoccer operation.
This nigga don't know shit aboutno goddamn soccer, but somehow
he moved over.
Now, that's translation for wenever said we said football.

(46:25):
He went to football.
Meaning he was always still onthe football side of things.
But they'll sit here and lie,spit in our face, and say he's
dealing with something he knowsnothing about.
Don't worry about him.
No, no, there's not enoughoutrage because this isn't New
York City where people arewriting articles and calling for

(46:46):
people's heads and getting thatserious about it.
Because, you know, we can stillgo to Magic City, we can still,
uh, and let me not just make ita black thing.
I mean, you can still do kind ofwhatever, it's really about the
party, right?
It's about, oh, it's a cheapgaming series.
Oh, we could tailgate outside,have a good time.
There's ass shaking.
We can get good with the otherfans, even though we suck.

(47:08):
It's us getting old.
It's getting old, and that's andthat's why I said what I said
earlier.

SPEAKER_02 (47:14):
Um do you think we could create or try to like
inspire a more angry fan base?

SPEAKER_05 (47:27):
Yeah, if we go to the game, uh, the Seahawks game,
that's the next home game, andwe have bullhorns and we're
yelling and we're picketing, andwe get a flash mob or something
to do the thriller with us whilewe hold up signs doing it.
I bet that that would catch alot of people's attention.

SPEAKER_02 (47:45):
Hey, do you think we'd get arrested if we uh shut
down traffic on North SideDrive?
Well, no, I wouldn't do that.
Uh only way I'm shutting downtraffic on Northside Drive if
I'm wobbling, walking out of 10because one of those ladies in
there poured me too heavy.

SPEAKER_05 (48:00):
Well, wobble baby, wobble baby, wobble baby.

SPEAKER_02 (48:03):
But nah, uh uh, but like if we if we like had like
Rich McKay in a noose, do youthink we get arrested for that?

SPEAKER_05 (48:12):
Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 (48:15):
That's our free speech.

SPEAKER_05 (48:17):
Yeah, but we get arrested for that, Lee.

SPEAKER_02 (48:20):
Yeah, I yeah, I don't I don't think hold on,
Rich McKay in a news.
I don't think we get convicted.
In a news, Lee?
No, I I I I I wouldn't do it.
I was just really thinking,like, do you do you think you
could actually get it off?

SPEAKER_05 (48:41):
Not in a noose, no.
And it depicts him, no.

SPEAKER_02 (48:45):
I I remember being at a high school football game
once, and a parent was yellingoff with his head directed at
the uh head football coach.
Yeah, but I I mean that's I Iknow I'm I'm just I'm just uh
again, I I wouldn't go out thereand bullhorn and and and protest

(49:10):
with Rich McKay in the news.
That's irresponsible.
It's just the South isinsensitive.
It can just go right, yeah.
It can just go too many ways.
Like, you know, you can't makehanging jokes anymore.
Twenty years ago, you could makea joke about hanging somebody.
Oh hanging, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (49:33):
But uh this took a dark turn.

SPEAKER_05 (49:36):
Well, did it take a dark turn, or or is it is it one
of these things where you'resick and tired?
You're just tired of of the sameold same.
Can we kind of just tired of thesame old same?

SPEAKER_02 (49:50):
Can we hire can we make a Dan Reeves type hire?

SPEAKER_05 (49:55):
So, all right, this gets back to what the
conversation that me and Justicehad.
So then we moved on to coaching,right?
In terms of well, who do youhire?
As it sits today, there arethree people.
I said, first of all, Dan Reevesis the last hire that we made.
Yes, Ra was a coach before, hewas a losing coach.
Aside from that, we have nothired a veteran head coach since

(50:18):
Dan Reeves, Jim Moore, MikeSmith, DQ, Arthur Smith.
These are all coordinators.
Now, you can say that we kind ofhit on DQ because we did go to
the Super Bowl, went to theplayoffs twice.
He was eight and eight his firstyear, but like yeah, yeah, yeah.
But we we we haven't brought ina coach who's proven it.

(50:39):
And he's proven now, and even inhis second cent, yeah, he's got
the injuries and you knowwhatever's going on in
Washington.
But I think around the league,everybody believes Dan Quinn's a
good coach because I think he'sa good coach.
Yeah, yeah.
So let's get back to who we whowe should go after.
So, but this right, this gets tomy point.
No first-time coordinators.
We missed out on that.
You had McDonald and you had uhwhat's face in Chicago.

(51:02):
Yeah, so so who are you thinkingthat's out there?
Well, we have to go offense.
So obviously, McCarthy's thefirst person that just I know is
a free agent that comes to mind.
Now, the season's not over yet,and I'm not saying I don't
believe that LaFleur shit, butwho knows?
He let's say he does comeavailable.

(51:24):
There's LaFleur.
Obviously, he's somebody youtalk to.
If John Harbaugh, if somehow theRavens don't make it and they
decide to mutually part ways,I'm not saying that's gonna
happen, but I'm just saying itcould.
If they decide just like whenthe Eagles with uh uh Andy Reid,
if they decide to mutually partways, you don't let any of those

(51:45):
guys, any of if those two becomeavailable, it's a matter of who
wants to accept first.
I I wouldn't even I would offerthem both, and whoever signs
first is who gets the job.
But McCarthy is the only openfree agent.
I I think Clint Kubiat wouldn'tbe bad.
And if we did do a retread headcoach, I know they're having a

(52:06):
rough year, but Cliff issomebody I would talk to.
And then the other idea, if wewent the avenue of college,
don't go Cliff.
And then if we went the avenueof college, there's only gonna
be even so many people thatdepending on how they looked at
the draft process when wedrafted Pennings.
Why not just call the Boer?
I'd just call him at this pointbecause let's see if he wants to

(52:29):
leave.
Would he leave?
He's had play, he's had successwith Michael Pennings at two
different places.
So, like I would call the boardtoo.
If if you if you're gonna lookin the college ranks at all,
what I'm not saying do it.

SPEAKER_02 (52:44):
What are your thoughts on uh I don't know if
you saw it, but it was from 680.
I sent it to you.
Um Todd Monken to be the headcoach, bring Stetson back home.

SPEAKER_05 (52:55):
I don't want no.
No, fuck no.

SPEAKER_02 (52:58):
Who was that veteran?
Or who was it?

SPEAKER_05 (53:01):
Or was it Matt?

SPEAKER_02 (53:02):
Who was it that's I I didn't even I just sent it to
you.
I didn't listen to it.
I just I like was reading itwith the volume off because I'm
Fuck no.

SPEAKER_05 (53:10):
Fuck no.

SPEAKER_02 (53:11):
What about uh Kirby?
Yeah, I mean, I don't thinkKirby's leaving Georgia for any
job, but like he's not gonnaleave Georgia for a job that he
knows he's gonna get fired from.
So, like, people with the Kirbyshit, that's stupid.
It's just dumb take.
And I don't think Kirby works inthe NFL either.

SPEAKER_05 (53:35):
I don't know if he doesn't work in the NFL.
I think that because he's morehe was in the NFL, he would be
like that that wasn't aside, itwasn't like a No, I know, but
I'm saying I think that he'smore of a CEO coach if he comes
to the NFL, that he CEOs it morethan I'm gonna call the defense.

(53:56):
Not that he does it at Georgia,but like just his style, though.

SPEAKER_02 (54:00):
His style is like it's physical football, it's
very in your face, like but Ilike the idea of no BS.

SPEAKER_05 (54:09):
That's what the organization needs.
They need a no BS attitude.

SPEAKER_02 (54:12):
Yeah, but that's that's hard.

SPEAKER_05 (54:16):
Like he's 100% BS.

SPEAKER_02 (54:19):
You want a no BS attitude, but you have to
understand that a college coachcoming up to the NFL who has not
who has no NFL, who has limitedNFL coaching experience, excuse
me.
Uh he was in Miami with Saban,if I remember correctly.
Uh Kirby is too accomplished.

(54:41):
Uh I just think he's tooaccomplished to go to the NFL.
Because uh his style may notwork for certain players,
especially players who aren'twho haven't been coached that
way.
And Kirby's the type that wouldwant to get rid of NFL players,
but the way those contracts areset up.

SPEAKER_05 (55:04):
Well, he's damn near dealing with it now though,
technically.

SPEAKER_02 (55:07):
Uh, but he has for what it's worth.
He can replace the he canreplace the players in college
and he doesn't like it doesn'tfuck up his salary cap.
Yes, the money spent, whatever.
But you know, I I feel like atthis point these contracts are
are super conditional.
But like NIL money, like they'retying conditions to the money.

unknown (55:31):
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (55:31):
It was actually I think it was better for a lot of
players when it was brown bagmoney, besides the fact it's
getting it's not getting itwasn't getting taxed.
But because it's above board, wecan have conditions on this
money and we can give you anadvance, and we can hold you
liable to pay us back.

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Whereas uh if you gave me$20,000on a visit while you know when I
went out to the ranch to uh goshoot skeet, you know, you
couldn't give me this money, soyou can't make me pay it back.

SPEAKER_05 (56:12):
So, but again, that that's why it gets to the point
of where I look at it from thestandpoint of Kirby doesn't
leave it anyways, but I said Iwas about to say that Kirby
Kirby to the Falcons should notbe a conversation unless it
happens, unless he signs, unlesshe takes an interview or he he

(56:33):
signs a contract, it should notbe a conversation because it's
stupid.
Yeah, I agree, I agree.
I I don't think that that's evena consideration.
What I do think is aconsideration is you know, I
think that Frank DeBore,depending on how this season

(56:56):
ends with Alabama, you got alegitimate.
No, I'm just saying if we'regonna do college, if there's
gonna be anything college, youshouldn't do college.
You shouldn't.
I agree, but I I just let itout.
Yeah, I don't want I don't wantanything but a veteran coach.
And Mike McCarthy fits the moldin terms of who's available

(57:17):
today, like as we sit heretoday.
Like Virginia, I tell you, and Iknow we're gonna get to college
here because I know we we knewthat we were gonna do this first
hour, damn near all Falcons, butlike you look at Virginia Tech,
they zoned in on their guy.
They didn't there was no fuckingwaiting, they didn't need to be
like Florida, LSU, Auburn.
They didn't need to do it.

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You know why?
Because they were like, well,hold on a second.
We've got a program changer,we've got somebody we know will
at least get us to somethingthat we want.
Yeah, at this point, yeah, Iwant to hire the coach that's
gonna win us the Super Bowl, butlike, no man, let's get somebody

(57:58):
that's gonna win us some games.
Like Mike Smith, although not aveteran coach, he was a great
coach, starter coach to startthe shit off with.
The defense was good inJacksonville, like everything
was right about him.

SPEAKER_02 (58:11):
Get get get to the next point with justice that
y'all talked about.

SPEAKER_05 (58:17):
That was it.
That that that head coachingwise, we we knew that we needed
to figure out to get a veteranhead coach was what I wanted.
Like, I'm I'm saying, like, weneeded a veteran head coach.
And Mike McCarthy, to me, makesthe most sense.
He's won at every stop that he'sbeen at.

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He's won a Super Bowl.
Yes, Dak Prescott and AaronRodgers were his quarterbacks.
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (58:42):
But they got better with him, though.

SPEAKER_05 (58:45):
They got better with him, and he's he they were
winner, they won games.
That's a good coach.
And that's what we want.
Like, we want to win games.

SPEAKER_02 (58:53):
And I think that Mike McCarthy did the one thing
that a lot of coaches don't getto do is his contract ran out.
He didn't get fired.
They went back to the table.
He wanted to stay, they wentback to renegotiate, and they
couldn't come to a price.

SPEAKER_05 (59:11):
Lee, what I would give to see the Falcons get
blown out as a one-seed againsta six-seed fucking hot Packers
team or hot any team at thispoint.

SPEAKER_02 (59:22):
But hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Let me let me let me get let meget the coach.
Like, let me get let me get somemic today, man.
Um I got some fly.
Here's I I I I want an offensivecoach.
Theoretically.

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I really do.

SPEAKER_05 (59:45):
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (59:48):
Aaron Rodgers is hurting.
Now I'm throwing armor.
We don't know how long it'sgonna be.

SPEAKER_05 (59:56):
I don't think he gets fired.
That's right.

SPEAKER_02 (59:58):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Steelers fans aren't happy withCoach T.
He might need fresh air and hemight say, Hey, I I need a
quarterback.
And I think a healthy MichaelPenix can possibly be what I'm

(01:00:23):
looking for as far as a talentbecause hey, Coach T is gonna
ask him to do a lot less.

SPEAKER_05 (01:00:34):
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:35):
I mean j just the way that he coaches and plays
football, you know, he playscomplimentary football, unlike
the Falcons.
He really you know, he he canpretty much rely on his kicking
game and his in previous yearshis defense to help him keep
games close on and so forth.
But if Tomlin becomes available,fuck all of those offensive
people because the mostimportant thing that the Falcons

(01:00:58):
need is a culture and astandard.
And Mike Tomlin creates aculture and sets a standard.
You know, his his his quote, thestandard is a standard.
You know, we saw we and we sawsomething this week in in the in
the interview when they askedhim about the Jalen Ramsey
thing, and he said, Somebodyspit about you, it's not about
football anymore.

(01:01:21):
Which pretty much is beat hisass, and I don't give a fuck.
I'm sure I'm sure the team founda way to cover Jalen Ramsey's
fine.
You know what I mean?
But like what the Falcons needmore than anything, and you talk

(01:01:42):
about bringing in an experiencedcoach who's done it before, is
they need somebody who can shakeup that building, but have the
immediate respect of the playerswho are there and the other
people who are contributingfactors who don't get fired when
regime changes, you know.
Like, you know, you have frontoffice people who like still

(01:02:03):
stay, you know.
Some scouts get to come back,they get to, you know,
re-interview and stuff likethat, but we need people who are
gonna buy into a culture.
So it's not so it's not justabout wins and losses, it's
about the way you play footballand being consistently, being
consistent and doing thatregularly, you know.

(01:02:24):
For for the most part, you knowwhat you're gonna get out of a
Steelers game, even though theirdefense sucks this year, you're
gonna get an ugly football gamestill.

SPEAKER_05 (01:02:35):
Well, see, but that's why I agree with you in
terms of culture shifting.

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:42):
Um I don't trust Mike McCarthy to create a
culture, by the way.

SPEAKER_05 (01:02:48):
Well, the point is that that's not who I want to do
it.
I want the GM to do it.
We need a GM that's gonna do it.
I think, yes, hiring the rightcoach, of course, makes that is
all the difference.
But we need somebody withdirection and management because
that's where the issue's been.
Like, even with that management,we hired the right coach.

(01:03:10):
That's why we went to the SuperBowl.
Now we didn't win it, but likethat's where the issue has come
in to me.
It's to me, it's been more of amanagement thing than it has
coaching even.
This year, I mean, Rich is rich,but like Terry hasn't been the
issue, right?
Like, we would agree it's beenover since he's been the GM, the

(01:03:33):
coaches have been two misses.
You had two misses at coach, butthe GM's providing the talent.

SPEAKER_02 (01:03:39):
So, like but and and and with the two misses though,
he's a first-time GM who camefrom a franchise who had a
coach.

SPEAKER_05 (01:03:50):
So that's why they didn't want to hire Bill.

SPEAKER_02 (01:03:53):
So, to his credit, or to give him shoot him some
bail, Terry's not familiar witha head coaching screening
process.
I know like he knows what itlook, what right looks like.
But knowing what right lookslike versus pulling that from
the interview, and I'm and SeanPayton was Terry wasn't in on

(01:04:16):
the meetings when Sean Paytongot hired.
He learned, he he got to Seanallowed him to move up in that
organization.
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (01:04:26):
Well, Loomis is who I mean that's who he was.

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:30):
Yeah, he worked, he worked with Sean, but yeah, but
but but if Sean Payton didn'tlike because he was, you know,
he was the top, he was the topexact uh non-GM personnel, he
was top personnel guy.
Yeah, you don't get that jobwithout director of player
personnel.
Yeah, you don't get that withoutSean Payton.

SPEAKER_05 (01:04:47):
And the Saints for the longest did a very good job
of drafting.
I mean, I can't say, I mean,Hassan Reagan, I guess he was
all right, but they did, theyreached like shit when they
drafted him.
That's just one player, andevery GM, I mean, Howie Roseman
drafted Jalen Rager over JustinJefferson.
So every GM gets a fucking gaff.

(01:05:07):
Like, like, but I guess my thingis this we need to get a
football person in.
If he wants another Rich McKay,you brought it up before.
Let's bring Bill Poly in.
Let's let's let's let's getsomebody, even if he's not the
GM, if you need a right-hand manfor football, let's get a guy

(01:05:31):
that's done it.
Because, like we said earlierwith Rich McKay, Rich McKay
didn't build that team.
We know that he didn't buildthat Tampa Bay team, and more
importantly, that was 20 yearsago, and we've never had
anything that resembles thatTampa Bay team.
We went to the Super Bowl once,but in that 20 years that he's
been here, we've never had ateam that's even resembled that.

(01:05:52):
So, which goes to show that hedidn't build it.
Because what did Hose say?
He said, Motherfuckers sayingthey made Ho made Ho say, okay,
so make another hove.
He didn't make another hove.

SPEAKER_02 (01:06:09):
He didn't.
So neither did they so what doyou think the Falcons do for the
rest of the season?
What does the rest of the seasonlook like?

SPEAKER_05 (01:06:18):
The rest of the season is figuring out who the
fuck you're gonna keep that'sgot expiring contracts.
Kirk Cousins, go out there andmake you some money.
I mean, that that's that is whatthis is at this point.
What what else?

SPEAKER_02 (01:06:32):
Hold on.

SPEAKER_05 (01:06:33):
Do you think Kirk gives us a chance?
To do what?
Win some games?
Yeah.
I think the Falcons at most willwin three games.
I think that this is a 6-11football team at best.
Because we played New Orleanstwice, he could get one against
one of these teams that weshouldn't beat because we beat

(01:06:55):
the Bills and we beat theVikings, which were two games on
paper.
We were on the dogs, we were uhover five and a half point dogs
in those games, and we won them,and they were both on national
TV.
So who knows?
We could upset Tampa, right?
It's still a division game.
We could beat the Saints twice.
Who knows?

(01:07:15):
Maybe we do beat the Seahawkswhen they come here.
Seahawks are the best team inthe NFL on the road.
Maybe we get the Rams at the endof the year.
As a little, as a little bit ofthat, we fucked up that draft
selection.
So you know the pick.

SPEAKER_02 (01:07:29):
I mean so you don't even you don't even know like
the th what the three games are.
You're you're just like shootingin the dark, like the two Saints
games and a lucky one.

SPEAKER_05 (01:07:38):
Well, we got we got we got the Jets too, but like
they got Tyrod.
But Tyrod, right?
Tyrod's gonna be starting inthose games.
And who knows?
If Justin Fields was starting,he'd probably have a career day
against us too.
I mean, Bryce Young did it, andI'm sure that Justin Fields
would love to light up his uhhometown team.

SPEAKER_02 (01:07:56):
Hey, yeah, you you you know, you're bringing that
up.
Um what as we get into the thereactions from last week, is
Justin Fields finally officiallya fucking bust?

SPEAKER_05 (01:08:14):
He should have been one.
He's on his third team in five,six years.

SPEAKER_02 (01:08:21):
Yeah, can we finally, and this is this is no
disrespect to him, the man.
He's a great athlete.
He was supposed to get draftedwhere he got drafted based on uh
his body of work, but it didn'twork out.
And uh I've said this on thisshow and I stole it from Jeff

(01:08:45):
Teague when he was talking aboutAnthony Richardson.
But I do think that athleticquarterbacks who come into the
league and quarterback does notwork for them, they should play
a they teams should be creatingthe Taysom Hill role for for
guys who it's either a backupand you make backup quarterback

(01:09:09):
money and you never get to play,or you play sometimes in
packages, although you're not atraditional quarterback, you
don't do all the things thequarterback does.
You get to throw the ball, youstill are the backup, and you
get to play and have an impact.
Justin Fields lining up in theslot, going in motion, lining up

(01:09:32):
in the backfield, you know, onlike some doing weird motion,
like that creates problems fordefenses because he runs as good
as any other athlete, but nowyou throw in the fact that he
can throw the ball better than awide receiver could on a
reverse, you know what I mean?
Um why wouldn't AnthonyRichardson do the same thing?

(01:09:56):
Dog, if you're if you want toplay football, not be in the
NFL.
I'm talking about play football.
Quarterback is like the onlyposition to where you can't go
do something else.
If you're a running back and youand you can't get on the field,
well maybe you can be a kickreturner.
Oh, or you just hop on specialteams and and just go tackle

(01:10:20):
people until you until you getto run the ball.
You still get to play football.
So again, uh last thing, I'msorry.
Uh the last thing is, bro, likeI understand that there was a
time to where the league did notwant black people playing
quarterback, and a lot of blackquarterbacks were forced to

(01:10:41):
change positions.
Tyrod talked about it todayafter being named a starter.
He was like, People told wantedme to change to wide receiver,
but I've been here 15 years.
Like Tyrod Taylor.
Yes.
Tyrod Taylor is up there withyour boy uh like Chase Daniel.

(01:11:03):
He's known.

SPEAKER_05 (01:11:04):
He played way more games.

SPEAKER_02 (01:11:05):
Oh, yes.
He was a starter, he actuallywasn't starter.
He took the bills to theplayoffs.
Yeah, he broke the streak, thethe drought.

SPEAKER_05 (01:11:13):
Yeah, like but at because I didn't want to cut it
off because I knew we weretalking about the Falcons and
the schedule and where the winsare, but to get to that point.

SPEAKER_02 (01:11:23):
Oh, oh, no, bro, I was pivoting us out of Falcons.
We we we stayed there too long.
No, we're like going in circles.
Like, like we're we we we've gotto get out of the Falcons.
Like, we're for sure.
No, for sure.
Because we can field to make ustalk about the league.
We we no Falcons out.

SPEAKER_05 (01:11:38):
So, and but and then and and there goes the point.
We're Falcons out.
Mic drop on on that.
Because we are we're Falconsout.

SPEAKER_02 (01:11:48):
Can we really can we really talk about what I wanted
to open the show with today?
But because I don't have thefree time that I used to, that I
just didn't really express itand go and and and talk about
it.

SPEAKER_05 (01:12:01):
We can let me just at least finish off what you
literally just said, at leastwhen it came to the um idea of
what Jeff T was talking about interms of carving out a role for
somebody like a Justin Fields,whether it be in a Taysom Hill
type state.
In the dark night, the Jokersays this to Batman I'm not a

(01:12:23):
monster, I'm just ahead of thecurve.
There's gonna take a time, orthere will be a time where there
is a coach that's gonna beinnovative enough to understand
an offense and use players likeJustin Fields to the point at
where they aren't necessarilyeven take some heels.

(01:12:46):
They're gonna come into thegame, especially if they add an
extra NFL game with the way thequarterbacks go down.
And you will have games whereJustin Fields actually throws
the ball six times, but thestarting quarterback throws it
25 times.
That's my belief.
And I'm not trying to be theBitcoin buy a dollar today worth

(01:13:07):
in 2013 guy.
But eventually, I feel like thatis where the NFL is gonna go
because they're gonna have nofucking choice but to go there.
And in college football, it'salready we've seen scenarios
where David Green, DJ Shockleyget some snap.
Like, you see it in college alittle.
Uh Alex Orgy in uh Michigan withJJ McCartney.

(01:13:31):
Like, you've seen it before.
Like it's happened.
Or Tim Tebow with Chris Lee.

SPEAKER_02 (01:13:35):
Yeah, I'm about to say a better version is Tim
Tebow with Chris Lee.

SPEAKER_05 (01:13:38):
It's it's it happens, but the thing is,
exactly, it's unpredictability.
It's gonna take a specialoffensive mind to actually make
it look good.
Because plenty of people can puttogether the Wildcat, right?
Like they used to run that shitin Miami.
I don't know, that wasn't undersaving, I don't think.

SPEAKER_02 (01:13:54):
But no, that was that was when Parcells was uh
running Miami.
He wasn't a head coach, butthat's when he was down there
running the pro.

SPEAKER_05 (01:14:01):
I I forgot who the coach was, but then they were,
you know, Ronnie Brown,Carzville's own, getting direct
snaps.
And so, like and for a year anda half, that shit was working.
Like crazy.
Yeah, they went to the playoffsthe year they did it, the first
year.
But like anything else, theleague finds out.
But that's why I said I'm not amonster, I'm just ahead of the

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curve.

SPEAKER_02 (01:14:25):
You are but and and and and to close that one out.
Here's the problem with thatwork.
One of the reasons why it won'twork in the NFL, not because it
can't be successful, is becauseeven if the coaches have the
plays for it, it Andy Reid'squarterback is too good to do

(01:14:48):
anything like that, you know.
Sean Payton doesn't have TaysomHill on the roster.
So, like, it you you gotta be acoach who's not afraid to get
fired or super stable in yourjob to make that a thing because
it is so against footballculture.
Like, oh, if you have twoquarterbacks, you have zero

(01:15:09):
quarterbacks.
Uh the case.
But it wouldn't be twoquarterbacks.
I I I know, I know, I know, Iknow it wouldn't, but people
would say that, and it's like,why would you waste practice
time on this package and andthis and that?
Like, you think your starterwants to give up throws?
And it's like, dog, y'all comingup with all these fake ass
excuses.

(01:15:30):
And I can understand the starternot liking it, but didn't Drew
Brees line up in like at widereceiver sometimes for the
Saints and Taysom Hills took thesnap?

SPEAKER_05 (01:15:40):
They they knew they weren't gonna throw, but yes,
yes.

SPEAKER_02 (01:15:43):
But didn't they do it?
Didn't Drew Brees actually likeline up as a wide receiver?
Yes.
If Drew Brees can do it, I meanTom Brady did it, it caught a
pass.

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:56):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:15:57):
Who who the hell are you?
I mean Big Dick Nick did it.
He's got he he's got a trophy,uh, I mean a Super Bowl, Super
Bowl MVP, and a fucking statue.
Nick Folk's.

(01:16:19):
I just think quarterbacks shouldbecome quarterbacks need to stop
being just quarterbacks and befootball players.
Uh I think this narrative aroundquarterbacks can't get hit, they
have to do things a certain way.
I I think it's bullshit, and itwas created back in the day when
they wanted a certain type ofquarterback who was built a
certain way, and those thingswere true.

(01:16:41):
And obviously, if you take a lotof hits, your career is going to
be shorter uh uh for for mostpeople.
But like when people talk aboutoh, Cam Newton took too many
hits, did you?
Nigga played 13 years in theNFL.
Uh that's that's not bad.
Or 10, 12 years, like, bro, likegetting a fucking 10, 12 year

(01:17:02):
professional football career isfine.
Uh, but let's get to what we'rereally mad about.

SPEAKER_05 (01:17:09):
Well, we already got to what we're truly mad about,
but I know exactly where you'reheaded here.

SPEAKER_02 (01:17:14):
I was more mad at that Monday night debacle,
personally.
Because I'd already given up onthe Falcon season.
Yes, I was pissed off that theylost to the to Carolina twice.
Yeah, like I was pissed offabout that game, but it didn't
change how I felt about theseason because to me the season
was over.
I gave up hope last week.

(01:17:37):
Now uh what were your thoughtson the Monday night football
game uh in Vegas?

SPEAKER_05 (01:17:44):
Well, we talked about it, obviously.
I think that analytics areruining football because people
are looking more at what makessense to go up more as opposed
to taking points when the gameis in hand, and then there's
gamesmanship on the second time.
But obviously the Cowboys did, Ithink what I certainly thought

(01:18:08):
that they would do, which wasbeat the Raiders because the
Raiders aren't a good footballteam.
And the Cowboys aren't a goodfootball team either.
Uh they're a solid football teambecause they're good on one
side, bad on the other.
They look good on the other sideof the ball because they did
play against the mostturnover-prone quarterback and
just a dumpster-firedorganization, something that the

(01:18:29):
Falcons are becoming.
Like the Raiders, your Browns,these organizations that are
just, you know, they go decadeswith being without being
relevant in any type of space.
And even when they are somewhatrelevant, they're still
irrelevant.
So that's where that's the paththat the Falcons are.
Thanks, Rich.
But um, yeah, I thought thatoverall it was despicable.

(01:18:51):
The idea that it's fourth andtwo and you're up 17 and there's
four minutes left that you don'tkick a field goal.
It costs you a fantasy game,cost me$10,000,$2,000 on a$50
bet.
Um, and then they turn it overon downs, Cassidi drops the pass
or whatever, and then they getthe ball back, and it's 2 30

(01:19:15):
left, and it's third down, andthe ball has to get snapped
before 2 30, and there's kneesbeing taken, and there's not
yeah, they oh remember after thefourth down, Dallas got the ball
back.
Yeah, that's what I'm I'mtalking about that possession.
Okay, when Dallas got it, likewhen the Raiders when they were

(01:19:38):
deep in, yeah, they were in thered zone, and they need four
straight times, even though theRaiders had three timeouts, and
they got it on the other side oftwo minutes, not on the the the
under two minutes side, but theover two minutes side.
And the idea that uh, you know,they didn't try to score again,

(01:20:01):
which I get it.
I maybe at that point Iunderstood that just a tad bit
more.
But well, I don't understand itfrom the Raiders in.
The Raiders in, they can't winthe game, but they couldn't win
the game on the drive beforeeither, in reality.
And so at that point, that's whywhen we were on the phone, I

(01:20:22):
said, well, you know, when itgets down to a certain point of
the game, let's just knee it outthe whole way.
Let's just end the game.
No, I'm saying before thatturnover by Gino, Gino shouldn't
even, as soon as the Cowboyswent for it, the Cowboys should
have kneed on first down thatdrive.

(01:20:42):
Like, because it didn't, notonly did it not make a
difference, but the reality iseven if the Raiders have scored,
would that have changed anythingin that game, considering it was
a three-score game?

SPEAKER_02 (01:20:53):
No.
Well, but but but hold on, holdon.
And see, here's this is whatanalytics are doing and people
not playing, right?
You play to win the game, yeah.
But the game is made up ofplays.
And as an athlete andcompetitor, you want to play
those plays and win the play.

SPEAKER_06 (01:21:14):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:21:14):
Hopefully, you want enough plays to win the game, or
you win the right play so youcan win the game.
We're losing that.
Also, I listen to NBA players.
Again, different sport, but theytalk about this all the time.
Blowout, whether you up, youdown, uh tight game, a little
bit different, but you care.

(01:21:35):
People care about getting theirstats.
So it can be bullshit time.

SPEAKER_05 (01:21:41):
And it's costing niggas money.

SPEAKER_02 (01:21:42):
But on, but it can be bullshit time in a game, and
the starters are still in, theythey haven't got pulled out yet,
and whoever your guy is hadn'thit his his points per game
average.
You're like, oh shit, I only got20.
I need to get to 27.
And we I know we only got threemore minutes.
He's gonna pull us because weain't gonna come back.

(01:22:03):
But it's enough time for us tomake a run.
Let me go get my points becauseI care about my stats.
And again, basketball, you havea bit more control over that.
But I just thought it wasdisgusting for competition.
Like, these are competitiveevents, these are entertainment
events.
I understand the people insidethe biz in the inside the

(01:22:24):
building, on the football, onthe sport side care about wins
and losses, best players, all ofthat.
But what allows you to make whatyou make doing this is the
entertainment aspect that isbuilt from competition.
People like to watchcompetition.
Humans love competition.
Even non-competitive people areactually into competition,

(01:22:45):
they're just not good at it, sothey shy away from it because
they don't want to look weak.
You know what I mean?
Like, like, like it's a humanthing.
Like, we like gladiators, welike boxing, we like fights, we
like to see, we like thesegladiators.
It's not just about winning andcalling the right play at the

(01:23:06):
right time.
Sometimes, yeah, that's veryimportant.
But sometimes it's about hey,I'm I'm I'm bigger than you, I'm
faster than you, I'm strongerthan you, I'm gonna beat you up.
I got personal pride.
You may have whooped my ass thisgame, but I didn't stop playing.
And we've lost that becausewe've added fucking lean to

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goddamn sports.
Hey, this isn't a fuckingassembly line.
We don't have to be the mostefficient outfit possible
because there's a human aspectto this.
Physicality can break somebody'swill.

SPEAKER_05 (01:23:50):
Physicality can break somebody's will.
We're out here playing till thelast whistle.
That's what everybody says,right?
I was just playing hard.
You're not coaching hard.

SPEAKER_02 (01:24:03):
Like they come after players for for for fucking up
in games to mess up thegambling, right?
Well, if a team stops competing,if both teams stop competing in
the middle of the game, what'sthe difference?
Oh shit.
The over didn't hit by onepoint.

SPEAKER_05 (01:24:22):
Crazy.
One one way or another, the thethe the consumer's the loser.
Either way it goes, whether youbet on it, yeah, the under
people are very happy.
I'm sure that they are, but likethe fantasy football owner that
was going against the playerthat they needed, and it was one
point, they're happy.
But like at the end of the day,because because there's winners

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and losers on all sides of thisstuff, but at the same time,
this is why what they're doingcan be detrimental just in
general, because the idea isthat, well, I signed up for 60
minutes, not 55, not 56.
Bro, uh it's one thing to take aknee because you got a first

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down and it's a one-possessiongame.
It's another thing to wear,well, we're in scoring position,
now we're just not rubbing itin.
I hope that one day that thatFalcons Super Bowl.
Now, granted, it's the thirdquarter when that comeback
started at the end of it.
But I hope that one day somebodyblows a lead in the fourth

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quarter up three scores withfour minutes, because they were
decided to pussyfoot around.
I hope it happens.
I'm mad that the fucking Eaglesdidn't lose to the Lions.
Not because I had money on theLions, but more so because they
went for it on fourth down, up10 with four minutes left, and

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the Lions had all three timeoutsand they were on their own 30.
They got stopped, the Lionskicked the field goal, they made
it.
They got bailed out by abullshit fucking PI call on
third and long.
And the Lions would have had achance to tie that game and win
it.
Now, if he punts it, they havebeen stopping him all game.
They didn't score or whatever.

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And I don't want to get awayfrom the direct con because I
guess we can get more into justthe recap real quick.
But like that is the type ofshit that's a firable fucking
offense for people.
And like you said, there'sincentives, there's a lot of
things on the line.
Yeah, get you when it comes tostuff, play the game like it

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should be played.

SPEAKER_02 (01:26:36):
Like coaches tell you to play to the through the
to the whistle.

SPEAKER_05 (01:26:40):
Lee, I know that it's a it's a video game, but in
Madden, if you're in theposition the Cowboys were in,
what would you probably do?
You I know it's a video game,but like you probably would have
kicked that field goal.

SPEAKER_02 (01:26:54):
Fourth and two, I kicked a field goal because this
is football.
I'm not gonna give you a freepossession.
I don't want a turnover ondowns.
I'm gonna take points.

SPEAKER_05 (01:27:03):
Or he throws a deep ball.
No, he scores on the first.
No, I'm talking about once theCowboys went uh when they went
for it on fourth down, didn'tget it.
Oh, when they get the firstplay, the first play he throws a
deep ball.
They score.
Like they waste no time, theyget 10 seconds off the clock.
Then they get the onside kick.
He kicks a field goalimmediately.

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He still has all three timeouts.
Like, but but but now all heneeds, all he needs is a
touchdown as opposed to well, hecouldn't even kick a field goal
after getting the onside kick.

SPEAKER_02 (01:27:35):
Well, I'm just gonna run, like, I'm gonna just and I
and I and I know it's fieldposition.
Uh again, I'm gonna run the ballthree plays in a row, make them
call their timeouts, or get itdown to the two-minute warning,
then it's gonna be fourth down.
I'm gonna kick a field goal.
I'm gonna fucking squib kick itto make them have to return it
uncomfortably.

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I'm gonna take that chancebecause I'm up by fucking 20
points under the two-minutewarning.

SPEAKER_05 (01:28:01):
You secured a victory.

SPEAKER_02 (01:28:03):
Yeah, like again, if we're gonna knock players, like
players are facing legal stuffbecause they did not play to the
best of their ability.
And not that not the problem wasthat it affected the gambling

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because they were not playingpurely.
Correct.
And we had an issue with that.
I don't care if they were thereason why.
The reason why it was a problemis because it affected the
gambling.
And then here affected thegambling, and we're just bro, no
one's even talking about it.
I haven't heard anybody complainabout what the hell was Dallas

(01:28:50):
and Vegas doing.
I mean, was was Shoddy out withfucking CD and goddamn uh uh uh
pickings?

SPEAKER_05 (01:29:00):
Yeah, they might have made a bet on the roulette
table that if it doesn't hitblack, I see you boys got all
black, if it hits red, I'msending you out in first
possession, and we're gonna seeif everybody freaks the fuck out
on Monday Night Football.
Anyone that has your bet, thewhole nine.
And Shoddy's like, look, guys,they gave me this job anyways.
I don't take it lightly, butI've already made it.

(01:29:22):
I've already made it.
My dad was uh should be Hall ofFame coach.
Yeah.
He coached many years in thisleague.
I've been an OC.
I've he didn't win a Super Bowlwith Seattle, but like I've
coached all this stuff.
I got offense is humming.
Jerry Jones, our boss isactually the same.

(01:29:44):
Like, as crazy as it sounds,maybe I'm your supervisor, but
our boss is the same.
And at the end of the day, bosscan get rid of the supervisor
because you're top worker.
Because that is how it works.
That's how it works in thewarehouse, too.
Or anywhere.
Like anything.
There could be a supervisor, butif there's a star, that's the
way it works.

(01:30:06):
And so it's just like it's crazyfrom the perspective of what it
is that we went through with it.
I lose 2K, you lose a fantasymatch, which leads to 2K because
that betters your standing inour league pays out over 2K to
win.
Yeah.
Right.
So that there's money on theline potentially there.

SPEAKER_02 (01:30:28):
And so and last thing here with the fantasy, the
way that I beat you was totalbullshit.
Yeah, I know.
But but it was but it was realfootball.
Yeah, he fumbled.
I mean, if he fumbled.
So you can so like you'reobviously upset about it because
it's bullshit.

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But you go, you know what?
It was a football play.
It happens in football.

SPEAKER_05 (01:30:54):
It's an eye for an eye.
Um, but we when you watch thepoint because Bo Nick's knee
three times and lost a yard oneach knee.
Right.
That's how I be playing on aMonday night game.

SPEAKER_02 (01:31:09):
But even but even but even that, that is
legitimate football.
Yeah.
They were up.
They had the ball.
And and that's what you do inthat situation.
But I'm not on the not on thetop side of two minutes.
But I've never seen two teamsjust take like eight and

(01:31:30):
straight knees.
Paul.

SPEAKER_05 (01:31:32):
Correct.
Exactly.
And no timeouts are spent.
That's not playing until thewhistle.

SPEAKER_02 (01:31:39):
No, uh, that's all the football I watch.
So any and everything else iskind of on you.
Uh well, no, I watched it.

SPEAKER_05 (01:31:49):
What time?
How much time are we at?
We've got 30 minutes.
So yeah, we we but so I'll justquickly go through it.
We already we didn't even talkactually about the Falcons game
in depth because we had so muchto get off our chest about that
fucking sorry ass or something.

SPEAKER_02 (01:32:05):
Hey, the only other hey, honestly, the only other
game that matters is the Chiefslosing.
Like, we don't even have to gogame by game.
The Chiefs losing.

SPEAKER_05 (01:32:12):
No, yeah, we weren't gonna go game by game, but
because we kind of alreadytalked about the Cowboys and the
Lions game.
But but yeah, Chiefs lose.
Uh, I mean, again, I wasn't thatsurprised.
Like, I I think that the Broncosare well coached and they have a
good defense.
So the Chiefs aren't a lead onoffense anymore.
So it's not surprising thatmaybe a surprising they lost.

(01:32:37):
It wasn't surprising that theBroncos covered.
Like, um, I I'll give you ashocker.
The shocker was the JaguarsChargers game.
I mean, the Chargers.

SPEAKER_02 (01:32:46):
Hold on.
I I wanted to do a little bit onthe Chiefs.
Go ahead, go for it.
Go for it.
Do you think this is a step backseason?
Or are you gonna be likeeverybody else afraid to pick
against them and just say, Ijust can't pick against Mahomes
and Reed?

SPEAKER_05 (01:33:04):
I think that they're gonna still get into the
playoffs somehow, somehow.
Because uh, we talked about ourSuper Bowl six last week, and
they were one of the teams Inamed.
So I do think that I I'm notsurprised that they lost, but I
think that they get into theplayoffs.

SPEAKER_00 (01:33:18):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (01:33:18):
All right, we can yeah which gives them a chance
to win.

SPEAKER_02 (01:33:22):
Oh, but do you but do you think if they get in,
they have a chance to win?

SPEAKER_05 (01:33:26):
Yeah, because this year's top three seeds as it
stands today are the Broncos,Patriots, and Colts, and none of
those teams I think can beatKansas City in a playoff game,
even at home.

SPEAKER_02 (01:33:38):
Well, uh, the Indy plays the Chiefs this week in
Erlang.

SPEAKER_05 (01:33:42):
In Kansas City, and we'll get to the picks a little
bit later, but you'll seeexactly how I feel about that
game.

SPEAKER_02 (01:33:48):
The Chargers suck.
Their offensive line's notthere.
Jim Harbaugh can't coach withoutthe without his O-line.

SPEAKER_05 (01:33:55):
Correct.
Steelers beat the Bengals.
Uh they're talking about JoeBurrow might play this week.
They that literally came downtoday.
Now, they're only three gamesout, and they still have to play
Baltimore twice themselves.

SPEAKER_02 (01:34:13):
Yeah, you play Joe Burrow.
If he's healthy, you fuckingplay him.
It doesn't matter where theseason's at, you fucking play
him.

SPEAKER_05 (01:34:19):
And Aaron Rodgers apparently tweaked his wrist.
I mean, they said it wasn't abreak, but not throwing arm, but
like hey, none of that shitmatters.

SPEAKER_02 (01:34:29):
The Bengals could have lost every game this year.
If Joe Burrow is healthy, letthe man fucking play football.

SPEAKER_05 (01:34:36):
And again, that's the one.

SPEAKER_02 (01:34:38):
The season ticket holders deserve that, by the
way.
Well, he's getting paid.
Yeah, he's getting paid.
Let him play.
Like, fuck fuck tanking and andhealthy and healthy players not
playing because oh, we can get abetter draft pick.
Hey, big dog.
I bought season tickets to watchthis nigga play.
He's healthy, put him on thefield.

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All right, ran over.

SPEAKER_05 (01:35:03):
What else do we have to talk about?
Nah, all good.
All good.
Uh obviously, uh that's prettymuch it for this week.
Just a quick preview of leastgames to watch.
We don't have to go in depthabout them, but Bills, Texas,
tomorrow is interesting.
CJ Stroud's not gonna play, butI think that the Bills obviously
kind of a must-win for them.
It's crazy.
They're 7-3, and it feels like amust-win for them because New

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England's got a two-game, reallya two and a half game lead
because they already beat themin Buffalo at that.
Um Steelers, Bears will beinteresting because obviously uh
Aaron Rodgers owns the Bears,but he's also injured.
And I feel like this could be aget-right game for him.
He is not a part of the picks.
Uh we're not even gonna get intothe Joe Burrow thing.

(01:35:49):
Uh, what's another just game?
Colt Chiefs, we kind of alreadyspoke about just a little bit
there.
Uh, another game to watch.
Eagles Cowboys, I think, will besuper entertaining, considering
how well the Eagles defense haslooked.
And then uh Bucks Rams on uhSunday night should be highly
entertaining considering howwell the Rams have played.

(01:36:12):
But what says you?
What do you think about thisweek's slate in general?

SPEAKER_02 (01:36:18):
Uh I'll watch the back end of whatever four
o'clock game is on my TV.
I'll watch Sunday night footballand I'll watch Monday night
football.

SPEAKER_05 (01:36:27):
Gotcha, gotcha.
Well, then here we'll we'll do atwo-minute huddle, uh,
two-minute drill here for thecollege football.
College football uh releasedtheir rankings again.
This was the what third one.
Um obviously, I think that atthis point the top five teams
are here to stay no matter whathappens, and that's Ohio,

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Indiana, Texas AM.
Now Georgia at four, obviously,because Bama lost to Oklahoma,
and then Texas Tech is five.
I don't think that there'sanything that could really
remove those two, those teams.
Um they're gonna be there, butthen it followed up with uh who
was six?
Fuck.
Uh because I'm not looking atit.

(01:37:10):
Um I think Oregon was six.
I know Oklahoma was eight.
Regardless, the point is, and II don't want to put out uh
misinformation on this podcastbecause that's not what we're
about.
But point being, that shufflebetween 11 and fucking six is

(01:37:33):
gonna be so jumbled up,depending on how this season
ends.
Texas AM, they escaped againstSouth Carolina in a game that
they were favored by about fourscores.

SPEAKER_02 (01:37:44):
Why are you not talking about Kirby fucking
taking a kid on start?
Like you're you're you'retalking about Texas AM uh uh
coming back and beating SouthCarolina.
Nobody gives a fuck about SouthCarolina's sorry ass.
No, it's not about Kirby beatingTexas, kicking the inside the
kick 35 to 10, and then going inthe post-game pressure and

(01:38:07):
saying some coaches are givingout checks.
You know, if you want to checkhere, you gotta be physical.

SPEAKER_05 (01:38:13):
Yeah.
And that's all that matters thisweekend.
And and again, and look, and Iwent against my code of taking,
you know, this is how you knowthat Falcon stuff's gotten to
me.
I took Texas seven and a half inour picks last week.
Uh, we went four and two inboth, by the way, guys.
But um unfortunately, obviously,Texas did not cover, but it the

(01:38:35):
same well, fortunately, theyactually they didn't, but like
it isn't surprising that Georgiawon the game.
I think that I was a little bitsurprised at how much they
dominated them, but it it toldus the story of Texas this year.
Everything about Texas has beennot this I'm not gonna say
fraudulent, but like they're notcertainly what they were ranked

(01:38:56):
to be.

SPEAKER_02 (01:38:58):
It tells the story of SEC Texas.
People like the idea of Texas inthe AC in the SEC.

SPEAKER_05 (01:39:05):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:39:06):
But Kirby said what he said for a reason.
That was the SEC version ofbruh, y'all ain't swag.

SPEAKER_05 (01:39:16):
Because they're not.

SPEAKER_02 (01:39:18):
They're not Texas is like the most overhyped program
of my lifetime, by the way.

SPEAKER_05 (01:39:24):
But they didn't move too far down in the rankings,
they're number 15, and sothey're not good.
They lost to fucking Florida.
But I want you to look at itthis way: if there's a
three-loss SEC team that getsin, they will let them in.
And the reason why is thisratings.
Miami's not getting in.

SPEAKER_01 (01:39:42):
Ratings.

SPEAKER_05 (01:39:43):
I don't care what anyone says, Miami won't get in.
There's gonna take a lot forMiami to get in if they don't
win the ACC.
Ratings, but it's the same thingwith uh now with Notre Dame, of
course, they can say we lost toMiami who is rated, and we lost
to AM.
But if Texas beats AM, becauseTexas plays Texas AM uh

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Thanksgiving weekend, not onlynow, and they could kind of fuck
up the college footballtrajectory if they win that
game, because this is whathappens.
Even though Bama lost toOklahoma, and Oklahoma lost to
Texas, if Texas beats AM,Georgia plays in the SEC

(01:40:28):
championship against Bama.
So you get a rematch.
But if AM beats Texas, and aslong as Alabama doesn't lose, I
forgot who they play this week,but like if Alabama wins.

(01:40:51):
So it'll be Banner and AM,assuming that Texas AM beats
Texas.

SPEAKER_02 (01:40:55):
Right, and then we'll be able to do that.

SPEAKER_05 (01:40:56):
And then Georgia sets, which Georgia will still
be a top four seed because theygot rid of that good fucking
rule.

SPEAKER_02 (01:41:03):
Maybe not, maybe not.
Georgia might move up to threedepending on the.

SPEAKER_05 (01:41:06):
Only if Bama wins.
Only if Bama wins the game.

SPEAKER_02 (01:41:09):
Well, well, well, Bama wins.
Well, I'm saying they could moveup to as high as three if if no,
never mind.
Yeah, no, if A.

SPEAKER_05 (01:41:21):
Bama's gonna be above it would still be four.
Yeah, they're gonna even thattwo off Bama SEC champion.
It's gonna it's gonna be aboveGeorgia.
It's gonna trump Georgia.
And they beat them.
And they beat them at Georgia,too.

SPEAKER_02 (01:41:33):
Yeah, because like Indiana, Indiana will drop if
that game's ugly.

SPEAKER_05 (01:41:39):
But they would drop to three, to me at most, if it's
a close game to Ohio State.
And vice versa.
If Ohio State loses to Indiana,I don't think that either of
them drops past three.

SPEAKER_02 (01:41:50):
Well, no, if it's if it's close, they stay right
where they are because they'reone and two.
Which is bullshit.
Nah, they can't do that.
No, no, if it's a close game.

SPEAKER_05 (01:42:00):
Only if, only if, only, like you said, if it's
close and if it's a close game,then like they're not gonna be
able to do that.
But that's if AM, that's if AMloses to Bama.

SPEAKER_02 (01:42:09):
I'm saying all I said was if if it's if it if the
game is ugly, Indiana dropstremendously.
Notre Dame is gonna get in aslong as they don't lose because
what is tremendous to you?

SPEAKER_05 (01:42:21):
I don't think they drop out of the top five.

SPEAKER_02 (01:42:24):
There'll be five.
I got I got you, but it's stillit's still a big drop when when
you lost to the number one teamin the country, and none of the
teams who are below it gotwaxed.
Hey, man, it's college football.

SPEAKER_05 (01:42:44):
I'm just saying you have to get waxed in that
scenario.

SPEAKER_02 (01:42:46):
But hey, you want to talk about this Major League
Baseball TV deal?

SPEAKER_05 (01:42:52):
I I I did.
I was gonna say that kind of forthe ending here, because that's
it's not too much of a talktopic.
I know that we're a littlelimited on time, but uh yeah.
See, now I gotta pull it backup.
That's but basically, long storyshort, it sounds like uh ESPN
will now be carrying baseballgames, which they kind of were

(01:43:14):
on ESPN Plus, anyways.
It wasn't all of them, but nowit sounds like the resolution to
now it's called FanDuel Sportsbecause that's what does the
Hawks regional stuff and stuff,and it used to be Fox Sports,
but now it's gonna be just ESPN,it's pretty much covering all
the regional blackout, all thatstuff games that aren't

(01:43:35):
nationally televised.
While Netflix gets the home runderby, the uh Field of Dream
games, and it was another game.
Maybe it was opening day.
Yes, opening day.
It's opening day.
NBC is gonna get Sunday nightbaseball, and then they're also
gonna get it was other stuffthat they get playoffs like

(01:43:56):
playoff first round orsomething.
And it sounds like Fox is justcompletely out of it.
So I'm like, so, or unless theyaren't out of it and they still
have the World Series because itdidn't say anything about the
World Series.
I don't think Fox gave up theWorld Series, so Fox will still
get the World Series then, andI'm assuming that FS1 will still

(01:44:17):
get when there's uh more thanjust uh the bullshit national
game on a Tuesday.
Yeah, but the fact that NBC isthrowing his hat in there, I
don't ever recall NBC everhaving baseball games.
At least maybe regionally theydid, but like nationally,
they've never had.
So then I'm like, well, well,who's gonna be calling it?

(01:44:39):
Or is it gonna be Tarico?
Like, who the fuck's calling thebaseball game?

SPEAKER_02 (01:44:45):
They got that, they they did that merger, bro.
They got cash, they can do shit.
That's what they're gonna do.

SPEAKER_05 (01:44:52):
Yeah, seems to me like uh I mean it sounds like
monopoly, but look at that.
Oh, oh, oh, and ESPN also nowowns MLB network as part of the
deal, which is the same as themhaving the NFL network,
basically, or the deal that'sbeing discussed for the NFL.

SPEAKER_02 (01:45:12):
What's going on in in a lot of industries is
oligopoly, and at the end of theday, people like you and I get
fucked because now they just getto fucking catch that ass.
Yeah, they get to control theyget to control, they get to
control the prices, and they'llwork together they'll collude

(01:45:34):
together on prices, and andexecs will bounce around from
net from the three networks, thethree parent companies, so they
have all that inside informationand friends who they just go to
have drinks with and they justsay something, and then that
influences something, you know.
But yeah, it's all bullshit.
We're all just getting fucked.

SPEAKER_05 (01:45:56):
Getting fucked hard too.

SPEAKER_02 (01:45:58):
Um Hey, did you watch any of that?
Did you did you see LeBron playlast night?

SPEAKER_05 (01:46:03):
Uh I didn't watch the game, but what I did see was
uh we took his uh over on hisassist, and I saw you sent me
the clip where he got six ofthem in three minutes or
something.
Um I mean that seriously.
I think that LeBron is great forbasketball because he's a staple

(01:46:26):
in every generation, and he'sone of the few people that a lot
of people will be able to saythey actually saw play and that
he did it at a high level for along time.
Now, this was one game and he'scoming off of an injury he's
never had.
It's a foreign injury to him.
What I think is gonna happen,because I didn't realize, did

(01:46:46):
you realize that Austin Reevesthrough this point in the
season, him and Luca are both inthe top 10 in scoring?

SPEAKER_02 (01:46:53):
Yeah, Austin Reeves is averaging 28.
Luca's after 34.

SPEAKER_05 (01:46:57):
So this is what I think is gonna happen.
I think that LeBron's gonna takeon more of a role of Magic
Johnson.
And I hate to say it, sound itlike because he's on the Lakers,
but I think that he is gonnatake on more of a role where
he's okay with averaging 17, 12.

SPEAKER_00 (01:47:12):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 (01:47:15):
No, I I don't think that he's no no no no lee.
Hey, look, like like no no youcan you can make your point, and
I'm just gonna go ahead and tellyou LeBron James is not gonna
average 17 fucking points agame.

SPEAKER_05 (01:47:29):
I didn't say he was gonna average 17, I said he was
gonna take on a magic role.
Now, I'm just naming a randomlike magic year.

SPEAKER_02 (01:47:36):
No, no, no, he's gonna average.

SPEAKER_05 (01:47:37):
I'm sure that James there were years where James
Worthy and Kareem both averagedmore than magic.
I'm sure there's probably beenone at least.

SPEAKER_02 (01:47:45):
LeBron's gonna average 23 or 25 a game.

SPEAKER_05 (01:47:49):
We'll see.
I think that the numbers aregonna take a dip.
It's just been one game.
He had 11 points.
Obviously, he wasn't veryaggressive, he didn't shoot the
ball that much.
But what I took away from it,though, is that and he was
interviewed.
They asked him the questionafter the game, you know, how do
you see yourself fitting in?
You know, obviously things hadbeen going somewhat well.

(01:48:11):
How do you fit in?
And he said that, you know, myentire life, I've played
positionless basketball.
He brought up a quote from Spo,and uh he he essentially said
that, you know, I am somebodythat can fit into any situation,
which is very true.
LeBron has that versatility,like that is what's made him so
special his entire career.

(01:48:32):
Because he, although he's theall-time leading scorer in the
NBA, nobody thinks of LeBron isa scorer, right?
And he's third and assists aswell.
LeBron's on paper is thegreatest player to have ever
played the game.
There's no debating that.

(01:48:55):
He's already been passive, sopassive isn't the right word.
But like just more of a ifAustin Reeves is the guy that
night, he will take over when heneeds to.

SPEAKER_02 (01:49:08):
Okay, okay, okay.
Yeah, you're not getting to youryou're not getting to your
conclusion, and we're right outof the way.
That is my conclusion.
Austin Reeves is averaging 28.
His average is gonna come downto somewhere between like 25 and
24.
Maybe even 22.

SPEAKER_05 (01:49:24):
So LeBron will be the third leading score.

SPEAKER_02 (01:49:26):
Yeah, he will maybe.
I don't know.
That's what I'm saying.
Well, you're saying that I don'tknow what LeBron's number.
You just said he was gonnaaverage 23.
Well, I don't know what AustinReid's number.
I'm not as confident in AustinReid's number as I am in LeBron
getting to 25.
LeBron's gonna get to 24, 25,bro.
It's gonna happen.
Lucas, it's it's Lucas, oh, oh,oh, oh, no, hold on!

SPEAKER_03 (01:49:50):
I got you.

SPEAKER_02 (01:49:51):
I mean, how do you think?
I gave you like three minutes onhim.
It's Lucas team.
Lucas gonna cook.
Lucas gonna average fucking 30.
His 34 is gonna drop to 30.
Austin Reeves 28 is gonna drop.
LeBron's gonna fight.
LeBron's gonna get his 25.
Now, Austin Reeves, histhree-point percentage is

(01:50:11):
shitty.
Austin Reeves is gonna get someeasier shots.
Lucas gonna get some easiershots.
And because Austin Reeves hasbeen killing, LeBron's gonna get
some easier shots because you'regonna have to double somebody.
And if you do, you you're theother options aren't great.
You know what I mean?
So the Lakers are just gonna bea more efficient, their offense

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is gonna get more efficient justby the nature of LeBron James
being on the court.
And look, you don't need Lukeand Austin Reeves averaging 34
and 28 long term.
But LeBron also passive becausethe Lakers have been winning,
and he's not gonna come in anddisrupt chemistry and play his
way.

SPEAKER_05 (01:50:54):
LeBron should be happy about it, anyways.
It preserves him even more.
He doesn't have to go as hard,except for what's going on.

SPEAKER_02 (01:50:59):
Hey, where are we at on time?
My iPad just died.

SPEAKER_05 (01:51:02):
We got nine minutes, but we got plenty of time.
We got plenty of time, butSteph's Nike.
For sure.
But just real quick, all I'mgonna say is this I'm excited to
see what the Lakers do.
I'm still a Lakers fan.
I want them to do well.

SPEAKER_02 (01:51:18):
Oh, I thought your Lakers.
Never mind, let me not say that.
No, I'm still a fan, but yeah,no, I was gonna say something,
and it was not it was not gonnabe a dark joke, but it was gonna
sound like it, so I don't wantto say that.

SPEAKER_05 (01:51:30):
For one minute, then before we get to Steph and Nike,
uh Hawks, I mean we have to talkabout it.
Hometown team, five-game winstreet.
They lost to Detroit yesterday,who's super duper hot, but like
not hot, they're the best teamin the East right now.
Well, Detroit.
But I'm saying we were just ashot.
I mean, the Hawks were on afive-game win street, they lost

(01:51:50):
at home.
Hawks have a terrible homerecord, which is so not Hawks.
The Hawks normally win at home,but regardless, has management
finally got themselves a winninghand real quick.
They can do what they kind ofwant.
They got the number one pickfrom the Pelicans.
Trey Young's on ice, and they'restill winning.
So they kind of everything's inmanagement's hands now.

SPEAKER_02 (01:52:13):
I don't trust them, so no.

SPEAKER_05 (01:52:17):
But we got a new GM.

SPEAKER_02 (01:52:18):
This is same owner.

SPEAKER_05 (01:52:22):
That's true too.
That's true too.

SPEAKER_02 (01:52:24):
All right, you know, the owner that the owner who got
rid of Slink, what, two yearsafter the Hawks had like their
best season in history?
I'm sorry.
That's true.
Sorry, Dominique.

SPEAKER_05 (01:52:35):
So Steph Curry, obviously, you said the deal,
report it seven years, likeseven, eighty years.
Something ridiculous.
What do you think happened withSteph Curry in Under Armour?
Do you think that he just wantedto leave, or did they knew that
he could get more and theydidn't want to pay it?

SPEAKER_02 (01:52:52):
Like no, it it wasn't it wasn't the money in
the contract.
Right?
Nike had to pay that deal, thatthat dollar figure, because of
what Under Armour is willing topay Steph.
But what Nike can do for Stephas he ends his career, he might
actually get some classic shoesthat will that will outlive his

(01:53:14):
basketball playing, and that'swhat that's what you need as a
player to help keep you relevantas you're no longer playing.
Uh uh he wants to do his StephCurry brand.
I'm sure the infrastructure atNike actually makes his brand
become more viable as he's nolonger playing.

(01:53:34):
Because Nike has experience withthe Jordan brand, with what what
LeBron has done, uh so on and soforth, and uh and and Kobe as
well.
Like Kobe, because that's theone that's killing.
You know what I'm saying?
But Steph needed to get awayfrom Nike uh Under Armour.
Like you're too good to bewearing them bum ass shoes.
Niggas ain't wearing UnderArmour.

(01:53:56):
Steph like might shoot up thetop t the top NBA rankings just
off of having Nikes now, becausehe's gonna have that whole
campaign behind him.
Thank God I can finally get aSteph Curry shoe.

SPEAKER_05 (01:54:09):
Yeah, and hopefully, uh, I mean, obviously he wore
Kobe's that first game as a freeagent, but like uh hopefully he
gets a shoe that can besomething of that mold because
although it's no shots toLeBron, LeBron's had a couple of
nice, really like a really nicepair of Nikes.
But for the most part, I meanmaybe niggas do wear LeBron's.

(01:54:31):
I never wore them hoobing, butlike I'm talking about I'm
talking about playingbasketball.

SPEAKER_02 (01:54:35):
Well, LeBron, you gotta understand LeBron is 6'9,
260, 70 pounds, depending onwhat year it is, 250 pounds.
The type of shoe that he needsis not appealing to most people.

SPEAKER_05 (01:54:47):
I'm with you.
Yeah, it's gotta be fuckingconstruction worker shoes.
But like what I'm saying is evenCaitlin Clark, who some people
dub as the woman Steph Curry,her PE is a Kobe.
Now, I'm not saying that you'regonna make Kobe's first Curry.
Curry's gonna have his ownsignature with that amount of

(01:55:08):
money.
They gotta have, they have tofucking do it, but like they're
gonna take that mold.
Yeah, I hope that it's more ofthat uh uh design.

SPEAKER_02 (01:55:19):
That's all Kate also hey, Kate also has a shoe coming
next year, too.

SPEAKER_05 (01:55:23):
And he looked like he deserves it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:55:25):
Um let's get to the picks, ladies and gentlemen.
It is time for Parlay P'sCollege Football 6.

SPEAKER_05 (01:55:45):
666.
All right, so we're gonna kickthis thing off and we're gonna
move swiftly.
We got Oklahoma State at CentralFlorida.
I like Central Florida to coverthe number.
Oklahoma State's a dumpsterfire, guys.
I promise you, minus 13 and ahalf central Florida at home.
Easy money.
Next, we got South Florida atUAB.
We cashed on South Florida lastweek.
We're gonna cash on them againthis week.

(01:56:07):
Uh we're gonna take SouthFlorida minus 20.5 at UAB.
Uh then next, we got Arkansasand Texas.
I think Texas deserves a littlebounce back love.
Give me Texas minus nine and ahalf.
They're plus money here.
I'm gonna take it.
Um, Missouri at Oklahoma.
I don't think that Oklahomafalls flat on their face.
Missouri's got a backupquarterback.

(01:56:28):
Give me Oklahoma minus six and ahalf uh down there in Edmond.
And then we got USC at Oregon.
I really love uh USC plus tenand a half.
It's honestly odd that thespread is that big because I
don't think the Oregon's provenenough.
And then finally, uh, this isjust a layup type bet.
Duke at North Carolina.

(01:56:48):
Give me Duke LaMoney linebecause Duke stays alive for the
ACC championship.

SPEAKER_02 (01:56:54):
Alrighty.
I don't have anything to writewith uh I'll send it to you.

SPEAKER_05 (01:56:58):
Yeah, I'll send it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:57:00):
Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for Parlay
P's NL 6.

SPEAKER_05 (01:57:11):
666.
All right, so we'll be reallybrief here, too.
Uh, we're gonna start off withthe bang.
So it's my upset of the week.
I don't give a fuck if JoeBurrow is playing or not.
It's a true story, and justbecause I have to tell it.
The Bengals and the Patriotsplayed last year to start the
season.
The spread was eight.

(01:57:32):
Everything is symmetric with thestart of that uh that game last
year at the start of the season.
The spread is eight.
I'm gonna take the Patriots atthe Bengals.
Bengals money line.
They're big underdogs here.
Patriots have won nine in a rowor eight in a row.
Let me get the Bengals on themoney line.
Next, we got the Seahawks at theTitans.

(01:57:54):
I'm gonna take the Seahawksminus 13.
They've dominated uh on the roadthis year.
They are probably the best roadteam in the NFL.
Next, we got the Colts at the uhKansas City Chiefs.
I like the Chiefs minus two anda half.
I think that their backs areagainst the wall, and that's the
type of team that can thriveagainst their backs against the
wall.
Next, we got Monday nightfootball.

(01:58:15):
Carolina Panthers at SanFrancisco 49ers.
Somebody's gonna show thePanthers who they really are.
It's the 49ers.
Let me get the 49ers six and ahalf at home on Monday night.
Next, we got the Giants at theLions in Detroit coming off a
loss like they did.
They're about to run up thefucking score.
Let me get the Lions minus nineand a half.
Can't believe that line's thatlow.
And then finally, Eagles atCowboys.

(01:58:38):
I like over 46 and a half, sir.

SPEAKER_02 (01:58:42):
Alrighty.
You like it.
I love it.
It's time for Lee's three.
All right, I got a minute.
Give me Texas, Seattle, and theNiners.

SPEAKER_05 (01:58:58):
There we go.

SPEAKER_02 (01:58:59):
Check the description for those numbers.
Hey, thanks for the great show.
Thanks for the birthday wishes.
Uh, hey guys, sorry we didn'tget to everything because um we
hate we got about we got about50 seconds.
We hate and love the Falcons,and um they deserve this show.
They deserve this show, and uhhey Steve.

(01:59:22):
I didn't have anything for youtoday.
Next week, we'll be back.

SPEAKER_05 (01:59:27):
You yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then also shout outs to theto the fucking degenerates that
were in the YouTube commentsection because I just pulled it
back over and I'm looking atthis dumbass shit that they put.
Somebody said my favorite KanyeWest feature is the 1940s German
leader.
Crazy.

SPEAKER_02 (01:59:43):
Hey, yo, that's wild.
That's not cool.
But hey, shout out to the peopleshout out to the people who uh
were in the comments.
We appreciate the engagement.
But hey, we'll do this againnext week.
I'll let you peep.

SPEAKER_05 (01:59:55):
Salutations, good people.