“Future, Falcons & Foolishness”

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
well, I was gonna do a countdown.
Jesus, this microphone is tooloud.
Why are my microphones so loud?
I'm sorry, guys, but yeah, no,I was gonna do a uh little 30
second countdown while I wasfinishing up my song.
Uh, before, and uh, I didn'tsorry.
Uh, we're not doing a countdown, we're just jumping right into

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the show.
We've got about a quarter ofMonday Night Football played as
we were sitting here recordingand as in we, I mean me, but you
know, we got it right here onthe iPad, on the setup.
You know what I mean.
I've got my water, I've got my,you know my nicotineotine.

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All right, man.
So I'm going through the topicstoday because we got I mean, we
got full topics, man, we had agreat show last week.
Hey, I want to apologize toeverybody who was watching the
show last week.
We had some technicaldifficulties those of you who

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know where I live, man, I livein the sticks, it's country out
here and the Internet optionsweren't the best when I moved up
here.
So you know, we got AT&T airright now and this should be up
in there.
It's really up in the air howthe Internet is going to perform
.
So I understand that from astreaming perspective, it

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doesn't always look the best.
It doesn't always sound thebest.
I'm totally aware.
It's a problem that we'reworking through and recently
AT&T Fiber has become availablein my area.
So we're looking to upgradethat fairly soon to provide you
all a better streaming show.
You know what I mean for youall that watch it.

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But again, if you missed thestream, go to Apple podcast.
Village Vets is there for thoseof you have been around already
who follow Big Baby's podcast,ac Lee and Parley Pete now,
unfortunately, inappropriatewith AC Lee.
You can go check it out thereas well, because I post all my

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stuff.
You know where it needs to beas well, because I post all my
stuff.
Uh, you know where it needs tobe anyways.
So let's get to the first topic.
Man, so this, this, this firsttopic, I wanted to uh, we, I
thought we were going to hittogether as a group, uh would
have provided it would have beena better conversation, uh, with
us all, but it's just metalking.
And it was the CartersvilleCalhoun game, right?
Uh, you know some, you know wegot to bring it to the town.

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We got to let the town knowthat, hey, we're locked into
what's going on.
So I went to the game.
It got delayed so many times.
It didn't start until likealmost 10 o'clock and I knew,
unless this is a tight game, I'mnot going to be here all night.
I'll be darned if I'm spendingwhat.

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I got there about 7.15.
I'm not staying at a highschool till one o'clock in the
morning.
That sounds crazy.
But again, like at my ripe oldage, young age or however you
want to call it a 33, I don'twant to spend that much time
there on a Friday night even ifI'm not doing anything on a
Friday night because if I decideI want to partake in some
beverages, well, I drove to thegame and I've got to go home in

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order to partake in my beveragesand talk on the phone and do
the things that I enjoy doing,although I did enjoy watching
some good high school football.
It was a tight game early on.
Then in the second half,cartersville uh really started
going crazy.
It's 35 14 uh.
When I left almost uh at theend of the third quarter,

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towards the end of the thirdquarter, and then uh, calhoun
came back.
Uh, the 35 35 game.
Then cartersville drove down uhto hit a game when a field goal
.
I saw a lot of uh fodder aboutit on on Facebook the next day,
not even knowing that the scorewas what it was, because I
didn't come home and watch thegame.
Actually, after the game, I'lltell y'all a funny story For

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those of you who are aware ofthe village vets you know me and
Todd, you know how we get down.
You know how we like to hangbro.
We went to the local after thegame, right, and the local, I
mean it's the local wateringhole here and let me tell you,
we sat at the bar.
He drank a water, I drank aSprite.

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We just looked at each otherand was like, bro, let's go Time
to go home.
You, yeah, you, go into yourhouse.
I'm going to go to my housebecause we out here being
responsible but we're not havingfun.
Why are we here and not sayingthat being responsible isn't fun
?
Because being responsible isfun.
But obviously we're at a barand we were both having to drive

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, so that we we took properprecautions.
Uh, what else do we got here,man?
Uh, we've got the?
Uh, what's it called?
We got a festival going on incartersville this week, um, this
weekend, excuse me.
Uh, on saturday let me seewhat's the name of that groove
fest.
Yeah, they're doing group.
Uh, shout out to black bartow.

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They got groove fest going ondowntown.
Uh, this weekend, hopefully.
Uh, man, I've got so much goingon that day.
I've got a birthday party I'msupposed to go to.
I've got a housewarming slashengagement party Shout out to
Big Alston that I'm going to.
Hopefully, throughout all ofthat, I have some time to make

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it downtown to show love, butalso vets get out there to talk
to the community, touch thepeople that we're talking to.
And, you know, maybe we findsome guests to come up here or
we find some some topics thatwe're missing out on.
Because, you know, we want tomake this show for you all in
the view.
The show is your show, becausethere is no other show from our

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culture who's talking about thethings we care about, talking
about the things that we gothrough, and that's really why
we built the show.
You know that.
That I mean that's not the onlyreason.
I'll be honest with y'all.
That would be uh disingenuousto say that we only built this
show for you all as fans.
But you know, todd, vijay and Ihad an idea of doing a podcast

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years ago, but the technologywasn't in place for us to
actually do it in differentareas.
At that time Todd was inNashville, vijay was here in the
Ville and I was in San Diego.
So when I finally moved back,and you know, after Todd moved
back, we go, ok, let's put thistogether and that's what we end
up doing.
And then, after you start seeingthe reception, the love, the

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feedback, the different guests,the comments, everything that
y'all think I don't like and Icomplain about when, when I'm
just sitting up here talkingduring the show.
Now we greatly appreciate itand this is for you all.
You know I know y'all don'tlisten to WBHF.
I don't even know if WBHF, like, has their shows on podcasts.

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I have no idea what's going onover there, not tapped in over
there, but I know that blackpeople, young black people in
our age demographic aren'tlistening to that and that's not
even the type of media thatthey want.
And we want to give you all thetype of media that you want.
We want to be able to talk toyou about the things that you
care about.
Yeah, it's cool that you know.

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The big podcast that everyonelistens to talks about national
issues, international stuff,what's going on regionally for
them.
We wanted to do something totalk about Cartersville and hear
perspectives from people ofCarter, from Cartersville, about
life, whether it's a localissue or it's a national issue,
local topic or national topic.

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And I think last week's showwas one of our first steps
really into that, because wereached out to some people who
were involved in, uh, someinternet fodder back and forth.
Shout out to uh, dncb, cbd,coming up here and kicking it

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with us.
Uh, you know, kicking it withthe vets.
They came out and they talkedabout the stuff that was going
on and you know we want to be aplace to where people can come
and get their stuff off.
You know if going to go aheadand tell you if you got some
Facebook drama, you got someFacebook beef, you're going on
Facebook rants and it's gettinga lot of engagement in the field
.
More times than not, if we knowyou, we rock with you.

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We're going to reach out to youbecause we want to get you up
here so you can articulateyourself, we can ask some
questions and maybe we can getto some answers and some
solutions.
And that's one thing I lovedabout the show that we did last
week.
Despite the drama, the beef thatuh our guests had with uh
someone else at the end of theconversation, they were willing,

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they're willing to to drop it.
They want to move on in apositive direction, to where
there's no static and I'm notsaying that they quote unquote
have beef with each other.
But obviously there was aproblem that we saw and we
looked at it.
We were entertained by it.
We had our feelings about it.
But more importantly, I thinkwe're moving towards a

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resolution and I'm not on somehigher than higher than now, god
, god type stuff.
No, I'm not on that, not at all.
But at the same time, if we canuse this platform as a means to
bring people together andresolve issues, we're definitely
going to do that and on that, Ineed you all to understand too,

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because you may not havePersonal relationships with
Media personalities.
Yes, we are the people you know.
I may see.
V is V, dean is Dean, rue isRue, shaw is Shaw.
Right, we are Our ownindividuals but also understand
that as Media personalities,especially when we're dealing

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with drama and stuff like that,we're only trying to provide a
good conversation and movetoward a solution.
In those conversations.
Anything that somebody says uphere and unless it comes out of
anybody, anybody who works onthis show's mouth, right, pause.

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If that needs to be put there,I'll just play it, just just for
the heck of it, cause we'reprobably not going to get a lot
of Kung Fu Kenny drops today,because it's just me by myself,
and making those borderlinejokes Aren't as fun when you
don't have somebody sitting nextto you to try to make feel
uncomfortable, or we just saidsome outlandish stuff, but

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anyways.
So, yeah, don't take anythingtoo personal, that that that is
said up here, and don't takeanybody else's words as as, uh,
our words or our representation.
Right?
Because, again, man, we just uphere talking shit, having fun
and trying to bring thecommunity together.
Right, cartersville's the Ville.

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We call it the Village toVillage Vets because we've been
around for a little while, butat the end of the day, we care
about the village and keepingthe village together.
And yes, I do have on shorts.
They're extremely short.
Let me pull them down just atad.
Okay, now that I've got out oftown business, I want to talk a

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little bit about the Falcons,the same old Falcons.
I'm not going to stay here toolong because if you want to get
my true Falcons takes, myconstakes, my NFL takes, then tune
in on Wednesday for Washingtonwinning, where Parley Pete and I
, who are both at the game,break everything down.
We discuss the game, we discusseverything, we discuss how we

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feel, we discuss what we saw,this, that and the third right.
But what I will talk about withyou all today is something's
got to change.
I'm not talking aboutquarterback.
I'm not talking about defense.
I'm not talking about pass rush.
I'm not talking about line.
I'm not talking about weapons.
I'm not talking about the DB'scover.

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I'm not talking about any ofthat stuff, hell.
I'm not even talking about OCDChead coach GM.
I'm talking about the braintrust.
Now, if you look at the Vicyears, you look at the Matt Ryan
years, you look at the DesmondRitter stint, the Marcus Mariota

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stint, the Taylor Heineke stint, now the Michael Pennix project
, as we'll call it today,because it's his first year as a
starting quarterback, kind oflike Baltimore man.
We don't know how to close outgames, whether we give up a lead
, which we did yesterday, or wemiss a field goal that we should

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make.
There's got to be some changesin Atlanta and you can't fire
the owner, but, my God, can wepressure him to sell the team
and I don't in a vacuum?
I don't think Arthur Blank istruly the problem as an owner,
but I think his allegiance toRich McKay is a problem and we

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have to get the stench of RichMcKay as far away from the
Atlanta Falcons as possible, andI don't think that happens
under Arthur Blank's leadership.
I don't, I don't know, I don'tknow what, why that relationship
is what it is.
I don't know why he thinks thathe has to have Rich McKay

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around, but the Falcons have aculture issue and it's deeper
than just the employees.
It's deeper than the employeeswho work for the Falcons.
I think it goes to ownership,you know.

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But shout out to T-Cuz man, letme apologize to you.
Let me apologize to you, dog,because I sent out the Facebook.
I sent out the Facebook post,talking noise hey, t-cuz, where
you at, I'm looking for youcause I know you the big Bucks
fan in the Ville.
And then you hit me on the DM's.
I don't be checking my FacebookDM's like that.

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So, for anybody in general, ifyou're trying to reach out to me
, yeah bro, I don't be checkingthem Facebook DMs like that.
I got to be better about that,especially when I'm popping shit
on Facebook, because Idefinitely would love to pull up
on you at halftime at somepoint during the game just to
dap up, talk a little noise andkeep it moving.
All right.
But shout out to the Bucs man,the Bucs, you know.
They won the game, although wedid miss that field goal at the

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end that Youngway Coo shouldhave made.
Well, he really shouldn't havemade it because he shouldn't
have been on the team.
And I'll tell you, from the fanperspective, I felt that we
shouldn't have brought him backafter what he did last year.
But even when he came out tokick, the cool chants weren't
that loud.

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Usually you can hear the wholecool.
It was like cool you can hear,you can just hear the other
stuff over the cool chants.
And that speaks to how the fanbase feels about him and I don't
think that what the fan basethinks is the most important
thing, but I definitely think itmatters.
And yeah, ku got to go Someother week.

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One reactions I enjoyed thatRavens-Bills game, probably one
of the best games we'll see allyear.
Unfortunately, there'ssomething going on in Baltimore
similar to what's going on inAtlanta, and it's not knowing
how to close out games, maintainleads, keep doing what got you
there and, instead of slowingdown to make sure you win, step

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it on their throat to make surethey lose.
But you know, todd Monken, he'dgot some Georgia in him.
He was Georgia's OC when we wonour back-to-back national
championships and, uh, you know,I think that Monken, I think he
got some of that.
Falcon stench on him.

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Let me find out.
John Harbaugh and Rich McKaygot some career crossover.
Let me find out.
John Harbaugh and Arthur Blankgot some type of crossover.
You know, it probably doesn'texist because I don't remember
John ever being on our staff.
I remember John cutting histeeth in Philly.

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So I don't really know ifthere's actual crossover between
him and between he and Rich,but I wouldn't be shocked.
Maybe they got the same mentor,maybe they got the same
therapist, maybe they got thesame best friend.
I don't really know what it is,but what I do know is that
between the Falcons and theEagles it's something about
these birds not flying in thefirst.
In the fourth quarter theygetting shot down and it leaves

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the fans in a terrible place.
Fourth quarter, they're gettingshot down and it leaves the
fans in a terrible place,especially the Baltimore fans.
Let's think about the Baltimorefans.
You got Lamar Jackson.
You know a two-time MVP couldhave been three.
You know what I'm saying?
Double could have been triple.
Ain't that what Hull said?
Right?
That's Lamar Jackson.
That's their quarterback.
And then you have Derrickry uh,one of the best running backs in

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the game, the only running backcurrently in the league that
has a shot at the hall of famebased on what they've done so
far.
Don't get me wrong.
Saquon is a hall of fame talent.
I don't know if he ever getsthere, but derrick henry should
be a hall of famer now.
If he retires today.
But Derrick Henry should be aHall of Famer now.
If he retires today and if heaverages, I think, 77 yards a

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game, he'll move up to top 10 inrushing NFL history.
Hall of Famer.
He fumbles their offense stallsout, you know, in the fourth
quarter and Josh Allen goescrazy and I just look at it and
go man, what's wrong with thesebirds?
Why are they getting shot downin the fourth quarter regularly?
That's a real culture problem.

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But do you move on from JohnHarbaugh?
I mean, you got one of the bestrosters in the league.
You got a good coach who, whenhe has adequate players, he wins
games.
He's won a Super Bowl.
What do you do?
I don't want to overreact to it, but I think it's important,

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you know, as a fan, to put thisstuff into perspective.
But I also will tell you andI'm going to liken this to the
Steelers Pigs get fed, hogs getslaughtered.
Don't be so thirsty for achampionship that you walk away
from above average really good,maybe even great, to go back to

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terrible, awful average?
I mean, just think about it.
Ravens fans awful average.
I mean, just think about it.
Ravens fans, steelers fans,y'all are bothered by where your
teams are because they don'tperform in the playoffs the way
that you would like them to.
Now for the Steelers it's a bitmore understandable, because

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your quarterback situation hasbeen terrible since pretty much
since.
Le'veon left, even with Big Benwas still pretty good.
He wasn't great and you neededbetter and you want it better,
but you know you couldn't moveoff of him and he was too good
and your organization is toogood to be picking at the bottom
of the draft.
I understand that.

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Ravens as well, y'all areconsistently a good team.
You're at the top of the AFCNorth, a tough division, top of
the AFC year in and year out.
So then you got the Falcons andI tell this all the time to my
Steelers fan friends right, Idon't have any Ravens fans in my
life, but I would tell them thesame thing.
You don't have any Ravens fansin my life, but I would tell

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them the same thing.
You don't want to be us.
I understand, because you haverings, you want to get more
rings and you want a ring everyyear and the season is a letdown
if you don't get a ring.
But when you have a guy in yourbuilding that you know is
capable of winning a ring, hasproven that he can win a ring, I
don't think you move on fromthis guy for just the new Wiz

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kid.
Right.
I knocked the Falcons forchoosing Coach Rye over Bill
Belichick or Mike Vrabel or evenCoach Harbaugh.
Jim Harbaugh right.
You get Jim Harbaugh in yourbuilding and you don't let him
leave.
You saw what he did Year oneplayoffs.
Year two beat the Kansas Cityopening week.

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Justin Herbert throws for 300yards.
Quentin Johnson has a pulse.
Oh my God, it's crazy whathappens when you have a good
coach in the building.
And to even talk more about JimHarbaugh, remember Michigan
wanted to run him out because heturned the program around
immediately.
Then he started to struggle.
He started to struggle a littlebit, but he was still 10 wins.

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He just couldn't beat OhioState.
He finally beats Ohio State,wins the national championship.
Just be patient.
Wins a national championship.
Just be patient.
Don't be so quick to run aboveaverage out the door to replace
it with, I don't know.

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Now, it's one thing.
If you're down here, like theFalcons, the Panthers, you know
even the New Orleans Saints postSean Payton.
Sorry, I have an NFC South biaswe can even look at Miami.
We can look at all thesedifferent teams who don't win
Super Bowls.
I know the Saints have one, butthese are non-Super Bowl

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winning teams.
They make the playoffs fromtime to time, but on a regular
season basis they are middle ofthe pack to below the pack.
Is not being the number oneyear in and year out, worth
dropping from four, five, six,seven of 32 to then possibly

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becoming 31, 27?
Maybe, maybe not.
It's up for you all to decide,but I think we should be slower
to fire people.
And then you know, understandthat only one team wins a

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championship every year.
I can go on for days about ringculture, but I'm not.
Let me get to Jalen Carter andDak though.
So real quick, spitgate.
I think it's important that wetalk about Spitgate because it's
important.
Jalen Carter gets thrown.
He gets tossed from the gamebefore the first play from

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scrimmage he and Dak have a backand forth and Dak spit at Jalen
Carter, jalen Carter spit onDak.
Jalen Carter gets tossed.
Dak comes out and says I wasjust talking, I had to spit Blah
, blah, blah.
I didn't mean yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah, it sounds
good, dak.
I don't believe it.
And at first, when I saw theJalen Carter spit without the

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full context, I said he shouldbe fined and he should be
suspended, because we have tomake an example out of him.
And I'm not talking about theNFL, nfl, do whatever you do.
I'm talking about Philadelphia.
My light just turned off.
That's not great.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Just give me a second about Philadelphia, my light
just turned off.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
That's not great.
All right, we bought.
But if you're Philadelphia, I'msaying you have to suspend this
guy because he comes in withsome character issues.
You know, take it how you wantit, but he comes in with some
character issues.
But, more importantly, we are awell-oiled machine.

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We are the Philadelphia Eagles.
We're coming off of a SuperBowl.
Nick Sirianni has one of thebest, if not the best, winning
percentages of coaches in NFLhistory.
I don't know the exactpercentage.
That's why I say one of thebest, if not the best right, but
you have that.
You got good players coming inand out every single year.

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You got a great GM.
You got a great owner.
You have a great system inPhiladelphia.
Nick Sirianni in what?
Four years, five years, fifthyear, he's been to two Super
Bowls.
He gets to the playoffs.
He's a.
He is managing that ship aswell as anybody can and even if

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we don't want to give him thecredit for being an elite head
coach, he is providing eliteresults, just like his
quarterback is.
You know, jalen Hurts may notbe elite Elite results.
Aj McCarthy's not good, by theway.
Sorry, anyways, but I wassaying you got to suspend him.
You got to find him.
You have to let him know that,hey, man, you matter to this

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team and you can't allow youremotions to get in the way of us
winning games.
I understand you're a human.
I understand you get upset.
I understand that people aretalking crazy to you and you
want to respond.
But it's also spitting Spittingon somebody when a play hasn't
even been played.
And again, this is my firstthought before I saw what Dak

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did.
I'm like.
I'm like no, because spittingon somebody is one of the most
disrespectful things you can do.
There's not a word that you cansay that's more disrespectful
than even spitting at a person.

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I'm going to get to that in asecond Dak.
I'm going to get to that in asecond.
You know, you slap a grown manin his mouth.
It's disrespectful.
You call a man the B word.
It's disrespectful.
You call somebody some racialslur it's disrespectful.
But you harking that shit upand spitting it in somebody's

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spit it at somebody, damn whereit hits them, damn if it hits
them.
I don't even care if you harkit.
Pause.
But just the idea of youspitting out of your mouth
towards somebody intentionallyis one of the highest levels of
disrespect and I think it shouldbe handled appropriately.

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Now I'll get back to what Ithink should happen to jaylen
carter.
First let me go to that.
Hey, man, that that Cowboysoffense, I ain't like that.
A couple of reasons.
As a former athlete former highschool athlete, you know, never

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played at a high level Ibelieve in having guys to do
certain jobs right.
Chris Carter got in trouble atESPN when he said, hey, you need
a fall guy.
And I say, yeah, no, you need afall guy.
And on teams you have crashouts, fall guys, enforcers.

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My star player never, shouldnever, have to beef with anybody
.
You know what I'm saying.
I was a quarterback in highschool.
Db.
You do something to one of thestar players.
I'm going to find you Now,jalen Carter.

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Here's the thing that you do,though.
When you're at it with thatstar player, he spits at you.
Don't worry about it, becausesee you spitting back, is going
to give them 15 yards and thenget you tossed.
He doesn't have to feel that 15yards.
Now, me, if I'm Jalen Carter,I'm going to get through this

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O-line at some point in the yearin the game.
I'm going to have a chance tohit Dak, and it may be late, it
may be.
Oh, I could pull up, but I'mnot.
And that's when you get yourget back.
Or you get that hit, that clean, legal hit, and you take him

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down, you're in that pile andthen you get your get back.
Because see, what people don'tpeople who haven't played
football don't understand isthat pile.
It's something serious in thatpile.
Now you know what I mean.
You get away with a lot ofstuff in that pile.
What I can't see.
You can grab people, you cankick people, step on people,

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people, you People.
Elbow, you know, depending onwhat your mouthpiece say, you
can bite somebody.
You can get your get back, andI'm not going to sit here and
say play dirty, but get your getback.
So in all of that, I think thatboth should be fine and I think

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at this point today, if I sithere, I don't think anybody
should be suspended.
I felt differently when ithappened in the moment.
But that's the beauty ofallowing our emotions to die
down.
But another thing I want to talkabout is the whole spitting
thing.
Right, some people say, well,dak spit at him, jalen spit on
him.
It's different, sure, sure,maybe.

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But think about this if youshoot at me and then I shoot you
, ain't that self-defense andforget legally and just normal

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people talk, isn't thatwarranted?
You disrespect me by spittingat me.
You said you were just spittingon the ground, sure I?
I look, I used to dip, I spit.
Sometimes there are ways To spitand you can Control the
projectile of your spit.

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So it's not like Let me startthat out there, me talking about
spitting.
But like you can spit on theground right next, you ain't
gotta spit out.
You spitting out while you'retalking shit to somebody, it's a
hostile act.
On the ground right next to youain't got to spit out.
You spitting out while you'retalking shit to somebody, it's a
hostile act.
It's a hostile act becausespitting on somebody is legally

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assault.
Spitting at somebody.
Come on now you see theframework I'm using with.
Now understand spitting is waydifferent than shooting.
Spitting is way different thanpunching.
But if we're going to put themin similar categories, which

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again, spitting is assault,punching is assault.
It was an attempt, and when youtry to do something that's
illegal and you get caught, evenif you're not successful
committing the crime, yourattempt to commit the crime
subjects you to punishment.
So if we're going to punish one, we got to punish both and

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honestly, I don't think JalenCarter should be punished
anymore Now.
Because Dak spit at him, soJalen's already been punched.
Because Dak spit at him, soJalen's already been punched.
He got kicked out the game.
Find him cool.
If I'm Philly, I'm in theleague office Like hey man, I

(33:02):
want my time back.
Dak need to do something.
He need to pay somebody somemoney Because at the end of the
day, we have to deter peoplefrom spitting.
Hey man, that shit ain't cool.
I've never.
I only know of one person who'sever spit on somebody, and I
won't say any of the peopleinvolved in this, but I already

(33:24):
was iffy on that human being andhey, that was actually a good
hang Hold on a minute, boss, newKung Fu Kenny.
But I don't respect him.
I don't respect him as a man.
You spit on somebody, I'd allslap him, punch him.
What kind of man are you?
We can't allow behaviors thatwe don't agree with, behaviors

(33:51):
that we don't support to to goto fly by the wayside, or go by
the wayside and just fly by andwe just don't care about it,
simply because, oh well, hedidn't spit on him, he spit at
it.
I'm gonna ask y'all you might beable to to to keep your
relationship with your girl ifyou don't like.

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You know I'm saying for, for,not cheating, but you tried to
cheat and it just didn't happen,or it hadn't happened yet.
She's still gonna be just asmad.
She ain ain't going to be likeoh Well, you tried, and because

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you shot it shorty and youmissed, okay, no problem,
nothing to talk about, norepercussions within the
relationship.
No, you've messed up the trust,you've disrespected your
partner and you have to dealwith those consequences, just
like Dak disrespected JalenCarter, and he should have to
deal with the consequences.
You know, back to week, onereactions Baltimore.
That fan puts his hands onD-Hop.

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Then he puts his hands on Lamarand Lamar pushed the shit out
of him.
Why should Lamar get punished?
The fan touched him first.
I heard a media personality sayyou're a two-time MVP, you have
to be above that.
No, I don't.
I'm a human, and in nowhereelse in the world do we ask
human beings to allow somebodyto place their hands on them,

(35:19):
not respond, and then, if you dorespond, you are now wrong
because somebody was aggressivetowards you.
That just goes against society,like the balance of how we live
.
You know, for every actionthere is an equal and opposite
reaction.
So you can't be out here makingthat action without expecting

(35:44):
an equal and opposite reaction.
So, fan, if you cross that line, it's one thing to talk shit.
Right Player talks shit rightback to you.
I go to Falcons game seasonticket holder five years.
I talk shit to fans in the game.
I expect fans to talk shit backto me when I talk shit to them.
But one thing I don't do is Idon't cross lines that can take
us past just talking.

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Why?
Because I understand for everyaction there's an equal but
opposite reaction.
But we live in a world wherethere's not as much
accountability as we should have.
You know, because I think aboutthe relationship with players
in media well, not players inmedia, with stars in media in

(36:25):
general, and it bothers me a bit.
So last week, cardi B, you knowshe was dealing with her legal
stuff.
She was in court and she wasrocking a baby bump.
Now today she may not bepregnant, that may have just

(36:49):
been they made it seem like shewas just doing some media stuff
because she's also using this asa to promote her album.
But a reporter asked cardi, hey, with the rumors of you
pregnant and and it could beoffsets you know I'm not using
the exact words, but it could beoffsets.

(37:11):
Do you see an issue withco-parenting?
Yo, this girl grabs a pen,throws it at the reporter and
just goes on a diatribe about.
As a man, you shouldn't ask methat question.
Do you hear women asking methose types of questions?
And I even had a conversationwith a good friend who defended

(37:32):
her actions and I'm like no, bro, I don't care how you feel
about the question.
You can think the question isnasty, you can think the
question is filthy and it'sinappropriate.
We we can have thatconversation, but that does not
prompt you to then be physicalwith me because I asked you a
question.
You could answer the way thatyou answer.
You can curse the man out andthen keep it pushing, but you

(37:55):
don't have to throw anything athim, especially when you're
fighting a case because youcan't keep your hands to
yourself and you've shown inhistory of not being able to
keep your hands to yourself.
Just because you're a stardoesn't make it okay Just
because somebody asked yousomething that you don't like
doesn't make it okay.
Now I talk about equal butopposite reaction.
If I say something crazy to you, the equal and opposite

(38:18):
reaction is you speaking crazyto me.
And now, again, as a woman, shethrows the pin at a man.
He cannot then equally react toher.
Why?
Because he's a man.
You can't put your hands onwomen, and again, I agree with

(38:40):
that.
Men don't put your hands onwomen, but women don't put your
hands on men.
Men don't put your hands onwomen, but women don't put your
hands on men.
Men don't get violent, becausethen we again we start to create
this imbalance where therearen't accountability for action
Excuse me, there are equal andopposite reactions for the
actions that people commit, andthen that creates that creates a

(39:03):
space to where you're not heldaccountable.
So you then believe that youractions are okay, forget,
acceptable, you think it's okay.
And that's where we starttalking about this trauma,
childhood trauma people gothrough.
It's so important to understandthat when somebody witnesses

(39:25):
something in their home, even ifsociety tells them they're
wrong, you have to understandhow they could believe that it's
right.
Like comment.
Subscribe village vets.
Village vets pod on allplatforms.
But again, there's no equal andopposite reaction.
That's so important.
And then you talk about thisrelationship with stars in the

(39:46):
media.
You can answer whateverquestion that you want to answer
and you can avoid any questionyou want to avoid, but that
doesn't mean that you can't beasked those questions.
Part of what makes stars solarge is that the media covers
them, not just because they'regood at what they do.
There are a lot of extremelytalented people, extremely rich

(40:07):
people, who work in industriesor choose to not be covered by
the media and they're notcovered by the media.
But those who are covered bythe media stand to gain from
their media coverage, especiallysomebody like Cardi B who gets
endorsement deals, and part ofher having indoor getting
endorsement deals is that peoplelike her.

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People are interested in her.
She's entertaining, whether youlike her or not.
But just because you'reentertaining, just because
you're a star, doesn't mean youget to shit on the media.
And this is not me as somebodyin the media, trying to defend
my place in the media, becausepersonally, as an independent
media personality, I would nothave asked that question Because

(40:49):
I would expect a nasty responseand I personally don't operate.
I don't operate that type ofplatform.
I'm not just into tea and junk,but I'm only into having real
conversations that matter, andlearning and growing and me
asking her about her challengeswith possibly co-parenting a
fourth child with offset, whileno longer being with him but

(41:10):
doing whatever it is thatthey're doing.
Uh, that's not what I would doin that setting outside of the
courthouse.
Now if carter want to come sitthat big, that big ass on his
couch and put a dent in it, wecan maybe heat up to that
conversation because it's anappropriate conversation and
allows her to get her stuff off.

(41:30):
But the last thing on thatcardi b said I want to hit yo
this whole.
You don't see women asking me asa man.
Hey, dog, I'm a reporter and Iwant to get information and I
can't get that informationwithout digging and asking
questions.
Am I crazy for saying that?
I don't think so.

(41:51):
I think that's as a reporter,you have to ask questions to get
answers, because the personyou're reporting on can't read
your mind.
You have a boss or you are yourboss running your platform, and
you want to get a certain levelof engagement, a certain level
of you know, so you can get yourad dollars up and you can
mobilize, you can show that youhave a group of people who tune

(42:14):
into what you're doing.
They're locked in on whatyou're doing, so if you endorse
something, you can make moremoney, right?
Yeah, I just think it's sosuper layered.
It's super layered and I thinkwe try to oversimplify a lot of
these things and we try to givethe people that we like the
benefit of the doubt and say,hey, it's OK, it's so, and so

(42:37):
she's popping.
Who is this person?
They just try to go viral.
Or maybe they had a legitimatequestion.
Because it's a legitimatequestion, hey, you appear to be
pregnant and you're a publicfigure and you also have a
public figure.
Discuss your business publicly.
Hey, how is that co-parentingsituation going to work with you

(42:58):
two not being together?
I think it's a valid question.
Again, I wouldn't ask it, butcardi b can't get mad at the
reporter for asking it and thenshe can't go on live or whatever
.
She went on going on a rant andtalking shit about another
platform.
She was talking about JoeBudden, his podcast for talking
about her and say and here'swhat a lot of these stars do

(43:21):
they don't read all of theirpress clippings, they just read
the press the press clippingsthat come back to them, back to
them.
And so when you have pressclippings that aren't as
favorable and they may beconsistent from a singular
source, you rebel against thatsingular source.
But because you're living yourlife, doing what you do and that
media outlet is not a part ofyour daily routine, you respond

(43:45):
to that stuff in a way that isnot aligned with the platform
and their view of you.
But just because a star rebelsagainst the platform and you're
a fan of that star doesn't meanyou should shit on the platform
or cut off the platform For one.
You should listen to whateverthe star is responding to and if
it's a clip, you should listento the entire conversation so

(44:05):
that you can get the context ofit.
And, more importantly, youshould familiarize yourself with
the media person what mediaplatforms and how they cover, uh
, your favorite stars, to see ifthere's consistency there.
If the village vets blows up andwe all like we have like a
Twitter group with spaces wherepeople are talking, read it, and

(44:27):
all of that stuff and otheroutlets cover what we talk about
or cover us as individuals andwhat goes on in our life.
I'm not going to crash out on aplatform for covering me
negatively until I know the fullstory.
And we have to know the fullstory.
But the problem is people don'tread, and in today's world it's

(44:50):
not literally read, it's sitthere and listen.
But again, it's not literallyread, it sit there and listen,
but again, it's take the time tounderstand the information that
you want to respond to.
And we live in this microwavesociety.
So we want to, we want torespond, we want to respond to
the nasty peas on the plate, butnot not realizing that this

(45:11):
chicken hitting, these potatoeshitting, this corn hitting, you
know, the little appetizer, thespinach artichoke dip that the
dog made from scratch washitting, and ooh-wee, we got
homemade pound cake and some icecream.
Boy, this shit hitting.
We want to focus on the nastypeas on the plate.
Hey man, hey, I didn't like thepeas, but I'm not going to shit

(45:33):
on the nasty peas on the plate.
Hey man, I didn't like the peas, but I'm not going to shit on
the person who cooked for me,I'm going to shit on the chef
because they put one thing on myplate that I didn't like when
the entire meal was great.
No, we can't do that, similarlywhat Meg Stein's doing to Aiden
Ross what President Trump doeson a regular basis by trying to

(45:54):
discredit people who cover themunfavorably.
Don't get it twisted.
When you're that famous, you'rethat big of a star and people
care about you and just like youfor what you project and not
even who you truly are becausethey don't know you.
You don't want people to coveryou negatively.
I get that, but you can't knockpeople for, not for for

(46:18):
covering things about you thatthey don't like while still not
shitting on your character andhighlighting the things that you
do.
Well, here we are, uh, caneloand bud fighting.
Uh, I don't really care aboutthat.
I was just gonna talk about itwith the guys because we're
hopefully we get together andwatch the fight.

(46:39):
Uh, same with floyd versus mike.
That's more of a group talk.
I'm just going down all of theuh, the different, different
things we have here.
But let's get to the young thuginterview.
I think the young thuginterview is important uh
conversation to talk about.
It's a super prevalent in theblack community and and more
importantly, more importantly,there are a lot of gems in that

(47:03):
interview that I think we weshould kind of like pull out and
talk.
Let me grab my notes.
Sorry, guys, I forgot to grabmy notes before the show.
I should have them sittingright here.

(47:27):
One of my first big thoughtsfrom Young Thug, and just Young
Thug, the interview.
Young Thug in general, becauseif you know me, you know I
always said hey, if YSL isguilty of what they did and
Young Thug is guilty of thosethings, lock them up, throw away
the key, do whatever you needto do, get these people off of
our streets, because there arelaw abiding citizens who should

(47:49):
not be subject to that nonsenseof our streets, because there
are law-abiding citizens whoshould not be subject to that
nonsense.
But, man, his upbringing wasawful.
Mom had 11 kids.
From what it appeared, hisparents weren't married.
He said his dad was responsiblefor 15 people, and when you have

(48:14):
that many kids, you don't haveenough time to give them the
love and attention that theyneed as a parent.
So the desire and the necessityfor the love and attention
doesn't go away.
It's just shifted from outsideof the house, from inside of the
house to outside of the house.
It's very similar inrelationships.

(48:34):
Honestly, if we're gonna sithere and have an honest, real
conversation, there's not,though, if you're not getting
the love and appreciation, ifyou're not getting your needs
filled in the house, whateverthose needs are, they're all
different needs.
I'm not just talking aboutphysical needs, because we

(48:55):
always jump there withrelationships.
But if your needs aren't beingfilled at home, you're probably
going to go elsewhere to lookfor them and unfortunately for
Thug, he chose the streets.
I mean, the man said he didn'trealize until these jail calls
came out get all this pushbackfinally coming home that he was

(49:15):
living messed up.
And it's hard to tell somebodyas successful as he is, both in
the streets and in music and inbusiness, that hey, man, you're
wrong.
But just because you'resuccessful doesn't mean you're
living right.
It just means you're good atsomething and you're profitable

(49:36):
and you're climbing up thatladder, but that doesn't mean
you're living your life outsideof that in a positive way.
You can be successful in thestreets.
It doesn't mean you're living agreat life because the streets
are illegal.
What happens in the streets ofa lot of that stuff is illegal
and because we are under a legalsystem, this becomes a right or

(49:58):
wrong thing.
No, bro, you're living wrongbecause you're jeopardizing the
people around you, whether it'sthe violence that you're
committing towards people or theviolence that's being committed
towards you.
It puts everybody around you ina spot.
Also, you're putting yourselfin a spot to be away from your

(50:18):
loved ones, your parents, yourkids, your friends.
Oh, you're also a businessowner and an artist.
So not only are you removing,are you taking yourself away
from the people you love andthey can't physically have you,
the people that you provide for.
You can't provide for them, andthe people who are expecting
you to deliver for them so thatthey can make their money and in

(50:42):
turn you make your money.
You're not making yourselfavailable for them.
So I take that and say man,this, it's so deep and we have
to.
You don't judge a book by itscover.
You got to read the pages butwe don't like to read.
I joke about it, but I don'tread like I used to anymore.

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But the whole thing left meconflicted because going into it
, oh man, doug was talking toall this street shit and I don't
agree with it.
But then he ain't evenupholding it because he talking
forget what he did ininterrogation room.
He just doing all this pillowtalking in jail when?
Why are you doing all thistalking on the phone and giving

(51:28):
up information that matters,when you know something's going
to be, know something's going tobe, when it's going to be
recorded.
And I'm not even saying rattingfrom the street point of view
of ratting.
I didn't grow up in the streets, but I grew up.
Hey bro, you don't tattletale,you know what I'm saying.
Like you, just don't do all ofthat and you damn sure don't
gossip on the phone.
That's being recorded.
Because let me tell yousomething I've had.

(51:51):
I've been in situations whereI've had phone calls that were
recorded, not from behind bars,I'm talking about on the phone
having a serious conversationthat got heated, and then
something.
Then the phone calls startgetting recorded.
Hey bro, I hang up, I hang up.
I've been in situations wheresomebody tried to record me.
I don't talk.
I've been out with wheresomebody's tried to record me.

(52:12):
I don't talk.
I've been out with people.
People try to record me, takepictures.
I cover my face and it's notbecause of what I'm saying or
what I'm doing can't be recorded, dog, I do a podcast and I give
y'all my real thoughts.
Dog, I was on here talkingabout buying Preparation H the
other week.
You know what I'm sayingBecause I had a hemorrhoid, bro.

(52:32):
I'm very comfortable putting mystuff out here to people, but at
the same time I'm mindful ofwhat I say, I'm mindful of what
I'm doing, I'm mindful of what Irecord, I'm mindful of
everything that happens.
For the most part, I movefairly intentionally Ooh, new

(52:55):
word.
But I say all of that to saythat, man, when you're doing
that, I don't care if you toldthese people this stuff, it's
still nasty.
And if everybody heard everyprivate conversation I've had
about them, whether we'vediscussed it with each other or
not, it doesn't need to go outto the world.

(53:15):
Because once other people getyour mess, they can add whatever
they want to add to it, saywhatever they want to say to it.
And then now you've totallylost your way.
You've totally lost your waybecause you have outside
influences influencing what'sgoing on.
It's kind of like, hey, if yougot to go through your partner's

(53:40):
phone to find out that they'renot, you know, being the most
faithful, what do you reallywant to be with that person?
Like you're looking for privatethings to validate your public
feelings, why don't you justtake your private feelings and
stand on them.
And I know, I know that's alittle confusing and maybe not

(54:04):
the best example.
But there are things that we doprivate, like just imagine all
the stuff you put in a grouptext.
Should that go public?
Some of the stuff you put in agroup text.
Should that go public?
Some of the stuff you say toyour friends.
Should that be public?
Especially presented withoutcontext, without understanding
the relationship.
You understand what it.
So when you're outside personlooking in, you then see that

(54:27):
and then you have a feeling onit and then you may influence
the people on the inside becauseof your feelings on it.
Back to the relationship thing,it's one thing to find it in the
phone and y'all address itthere.
It's a whole nother thing toshow up at a restaurant and
they're sitting next to eachother and you're out with your
friends oh God, I'm embarrassed.
Or a picture comes out like atthe Coldplay concert.
I'm pretty sure that guy's wife, that CEO's wife, knew that he

(54:56):
wasn't the most faithful husbandday in and day out, but for
that to be put go viral.
It's different when you knowthat everybody around you is
looking at you crazy when yousee them together.
So Thug should have just beensmarter and not been pillow
talking on the jail phone.
Nothing wrong with pillowtalking.
Hell I miss pillow talking.

(55:17):
I like to pillow talk.
You know, there's nothing likesitting laying in the bed with
your old lady after some goodwhoopee and just telling her all
the tea and getting herfeedback, and then her telling
you all her tea and you givingher feedback and y'all going
back and forth.
So I feel Thug's sentiment.
But you can't act like agangster and all this stuff and

(55:39):
do that from my outside of thegang world opinion.
But I'm sure y'all are Thugfans and y'all are more gangster
than me.
So y'all tell me I'm wrong andI don't know what I'm talking
about.
Kind of like Ryan Clark didwith Peter Schrager.
Hopefully gets him on the thinice that they're suggesting and
I hope that ice, like I don'troot against Ryan Clark.
I don't root against Ryan Clark.

(56:01):
I would just rather not Hearhim on social media.
I don't watch ESPN shows but Istill get some of the feed Less
Ryan Clark.
It's just some more goodentertainment.
What else I think of a lack ofaccountability?
There's a lot going on here,but the way I want system, which

(56:35):
during this administration,this flies right in the face of
that of figuring out the why.
Just don't figure out the whatwith the criminal?
We figure out, we do theinvestigation, we go to trial,
we get to what.
More importantly, let's get thewhy.
Because if we truly care aboutmaking our society a better

(56:56):
place, if you truly are a MAGA,right, make America great again,
which I don't know exactly whatthat means, but if you're
serious about making Americagreat, then you don't believe in
just locking people away for aset amount of years and then
bringing them back into societywithout setting up anything to

(57:17):
make them better.
Huh, oh shit, I got a co-hostshowing up.
Hey, take a seat, it's readyfor you.
Be careful.
Be careful about this, aboutthis wire right here.

(57:40):
I stepped on it.
No, no, no, you're on the couch, your mic is set up, your
headphones are there.
Well, yeah, you can adjust thathow you want to.
Let me get my, my drink offyour tape.
Hey guys, uh, v just showed up,so it's no longer just me.
Uh, sitting here yelling aty'all.

(58:01):
Boom, see, I got the game righthere for us.
Because, yeah, because we'reidiots to actually think that we
should do a podcast on Mondays.
I mean, it was great when itwasn't football season.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
But then it just came around to it.
So Damn you sound tired I am.
I'm beat Y'all, I'm back, man.
What's going?

Speaker 1 (58:25):
on.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Tell me something good.
Tell me something good.
What'd I?

Speaker 1 (58:30):
miss.
Oh man, let me see I talkedabout the Cartersville-Calhoun
game.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
I talked about our same old Falcons.
We can go back to that a littlebit Well.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
first, what did you say about the
Cartersville-Calhoun game?

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Well, first tell Facebook that you on the show
now, so they'll watch it.
You know, don't nobody want towatch me sit here and talk by
myself.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
No, we good, we good, they coming here, they come
here, they come right now.
Candy in the building, baby,come on y'all, tap in, now Tap
in Tap in Jarvis Terry.
Tap, in Tap in, everybody tapin.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
We here, hey man, so fuck it.
Let's go back to theCardinals-Cahoon game.
You didn't show up, Me and Deanwas waiting.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
I was out there the whole time.
I literally didn't call me back.
I sat there the whole time.
I was sitting out there and Igot right to the best shit.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
It was set up before you got here.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
I know, but my shit ain't how I want it.
Alright, we back.
Yeah, it wasn't.
Everything was how it wassupposed to be be.
I was sitting up trying to getmy vibes right out there and
then by the time I walked in, itwas they scored again.
I was like, yeah, that's a wrapfor me, because I really didn't
want to come in.
That three hour delay fucked meup.
I won't lie to you.
That messed me all the way up.
I was gonna show up at least bylike the first, the first

(59:44):
quarter, but nah, it just wasn't.
What what I was looking for?

Speaker 1 (59:48):
no, I got this like.
I got there like 7 15.
Coming.
It's a big game.
He was on time.
I'm gonna get here on time.
So if if dean don't show up,I'm gonna find somebody go sit
with or I'm gonna give me a goodstanding spot and not just kind
of because I showed up late theother week I didn't have a good
standing spot.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
See, lee, but who I usually do what I don't realize.
Shout out lee, I'm, I'm on.
From now on.
Anytime I get there super early, I'm going to sit down.
I'm going up to the top and Igot me a good little seating
spot now with the Cochran's andNate Mann oh, they up there deep
, deep always.
So, yeah, that's why I say Igot me a good little spot now.
But overall that game it showedme that Calhoun is probably

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going to repeat for sure.
But it also showed me thatCartersville in itself we got to
figure out something like Imean, don't get it twisted.
I feel we are, we're dominant,we're dominant as hell.
But I feel we took the break,we took the gas off the break,
we put the, we took the gas offand start playing around and
that bit us a little bit in theend, for sure kind of like

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baltimore man.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
And I'll tell you, though I think it's crazy and I
don't know how I do it as acoach, because I'm not a play
calling coach who, like, I'm nota play calling coach, right, as
a guy who's coached at um.
You know, I've coached a littlebit in my life.
I don't like common players, Ilike to teach and coach and

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coach individual stuff on thesideline.
But I don't know how you coachthat game when you have that big
lead against such a good teamand then you also have a stud at
quarterback that you have to beworried about.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Keep the ball out of his hand.
You run the ball.
Honestly, I ain't saying yougot to keep running the ball,
but I'm saying you do exactlywhat you was doing before the
first quarter you screen them.
We can hit them with screens,we can hit them with short
passes.
So what happened?

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
How did the play calling change after 35-14?
Because I left at 35-14.
It sounded like Calhoun scoreda quick touchdown before I even
got to the truck.
I dropped off because theythrew a football and I just
happened to catch one.
It's in the car.
If you want it, because youknow you're a purple hurricane,
I ain't got nothing to do withthat shit, I'm a hurricane Adele
.
But then I walked to the localwhere me and Dean had a water

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and a Sprite Worse shit over,but I heard it sounded like
Calhoun scored a touchdown.
After I walked out but I'm likeman four quarter Cartersville,
been moving the ball like makingbig plays, like it's nobody's
business.
Your boy, the boy going toGeorgia, number one, brady, yeah
, couldn't stop him.
The kid number 15 got the OleMiss off him, couldn't stop him.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
That's Davis.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
The receivers couldn't be stopped.
But damn all that.
If Cartersville really had anopportunity and don't say too
much, because you may know realstuff to get Trace in the
building and they didn't allowhim to go and compete for that
starting quarterback job thisyear.
I understand that you have asolid quarterback, but he has no

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desires to be a collegequarterback.
He's a baseball player whotrace.
No, no, no, no at cartersville.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Oh, he's my nate.
Yeah, and he's good.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
He's good nate, he's nice but if, if nate doesn't
want to play at the next level,and trace is what I saw Like for
one when I saw him on the fieldlike he was playing soccer.
Thick thighs, big ass you knowwhat I'm saying Like trunky, big
kid.
Yeah, stuff that matters.
When you're talking aboutprojecting size and stuff, I go

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why would you not have this kid?

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
at your school, I mean, but For the three-year
plan, Because you also got toremember that Cartersville, I
mean but for the three-year plan, because you also got to
remember that Cartersville, Imean Calhoun is a powerhouse too
, Like I mean in itself, Calhoun, shit.
They had our number for acouple years.
So again, like I said, youdon't lose going to Calhoun, and
especially with a kid likeTrace.

(01:03:46):
Shit, he got the keys.
He got the keys to the city asa freshman.
He won shit.
He got the keys.
He got the keys to the city asa freshman.
He wanted as a freshman.
So it's like I'm not lettinghim leave.
I don't give a damn what we gotto do.
If I'm the head coach, if I'mthe uh, if I'm the ad whatever,
like I don't give a damn what itis is with his mom being a
principal over there.
I'm not letting him leave.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
So it's not him going to cartersville is not cutting
dry, as I've never heard no, no,no, absolutely not, no, no, so
I.
I was told pretty muchcartersville told him he he
couldn't compete for thestarting job and that's why he's
not hell, no and that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
So and telling you the real, and I mean I'm I ain't
gonna do too much, but that kidis he.
He said like I mean honestly,cartersville, they could even
before, like his freshman year.
When you get told you damn neargot the keys for four years for

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this whole program I don't carewho you is, like, it's just
tough to try and get up.
You got to relearn the team.
You've been with this group ofboys for now.
I think what is it?
11 years.
I don't care who you is, like,it's just tough to try and get
up.
You got to relearn the team.
You've been with this group ofboys for now.
I think what is it 11 yearsstraight?
Like I mean, of course you playsome AAU travel ball, but again
, when we was doing rec ball,when we was coming up, I was in

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Calhoun rec department.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
I thought he played with 2K.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
No, no, he for sure played with Quentin and 2K
during like travel ball.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
OK, just travel.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
But he was playing rec, he was, he's a, he's a
Calhoun baby, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
So that checks out.
Yeah, that makes it make sense,but now he he's a stud for sure
it was.
It was nice to watch him.
Honestly, bro, it was.
It was just good watching highlevel high school football being
played and I hate that I missedthe end of it.
But let's talk about theFalcons.
I gave my piece on it I hadn'ttalked to you about it.

(01:05:40):
But let me tell you one thing,because I know you're going to
talk about our kicker and Italked about this a little bit
earlier.
Okay, when he came on the fieldnow I missed the first
touchdown, not a podcast story.
When he came out to kick, youknow how it usually be loud as
hell when they be going cool itwas dense.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
It was dense yesterday for sure.
It was dense for sure.
I mean personally.
So before I get to cool, let mejust I'm going to say this, I'm
going to talk about the wholegame.
The beginning, I felt like westarted out solid.
I felt like we finally aretaking the routes.
We need to get Pitts involved.
Michael Penix he played like astud.

(01:06:23):
I mean, he played a hell of agame.
Bajon Robinson he looked likethe running back that we did.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
He had the touchdown but we could not run the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
No, no, no, I felt like we did run the ball.
I felt like that's where I'mgoing back with my response on
this when Bajon was actuallygetting in space or running
through the B and C gap he wasproducing.
When we started trying to doall the dumb shit like trying to
do the when we was on the thirdand one at the one-yard line.
Trying to do all the dumb shit,like trying to do the when we
was on the third and one at theone yard line, trying to do a

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sweep, just like certain playcalling.
I was getting pissed off withRaheem because it's like the
play calling was just superterrible, like high school.
It was weak and that's thething.
Like I said, it's overall justlooking at the play calling,
that was weak.
I felt like a lot of thedefense.

(01:07:18):
I was super impressed by them.
I won't lie to you, we did giveup a couple big plays.
However, this is the home, ourfront seven.
I felt like I'm more excitedfor them than I've been in the
last couple years.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
Oh my God, yes, this our front seven.
I felt like I'm more excitedfor them than I've been in the
last couple years.
Oh my god, yes.
So one thing play calling wasterrible like like that.
That that first down on the oneor the two, we thought that was
stupid, it didn't work.
The running, running the ballon first and second down while
the pass was working but the runwasn't, was stupid.
But I'll tell you that, um,yeah, man, that that that front

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and they got sacks and baker wasable to slip out and make some
runs.
But honestly, that made mehappy because we had a pass rush
.
Right, we're not used to havinga pass rush and, granted, the
coverage is the coverage.
But mike, mike evans didn't havea big day and, like in Tampa
Bay, I got on my fantasy teams.

(01:08:14):
I got Baker as my quarterbackon both teams.
I got Mike Evans on one team.
I got Emeka Buka on two teams.
I got Chris Godwin on the team.
Like I believe, in Tampa'soffense, baker threw for 5,000
yards, 40 touchdowns last year.
Fuck, being a Falcons fan, I'mtrying to win this chicken in
fantasy, that's real.
So, wade, we trying to win.
But Mike Evans didn't have abig day Baker didn't have a big

(01:08:36):
day.
Our defense we gave up 24points.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
Our defense was fine.
That rookie the receiver shoulddefinitely win a rookie of the
year.
And Abuka, he is a dog.
He like just just seeing thatkid from the beginning.
Then like him warming up him.
I didn't get there till like oh, you were at the game yeah, but
I was like I said, yesterdaywas sunday was a complete blur

(01:09:01):
to me because, man I was, I wasshitty from saturday night to
sunday night, literally.
I think I was drunk for likefucking 27 hours straight, I see
.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
I didn't get drunk.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
Yeah, no, I got shitty.
And then Candice CleaningService number one in the world,
had to go knock out somebuildings, had to get shit
together.
But when I tell you that was itwas rough, you're going to have
to start paying for them.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
Candice Cleaning.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
Service.
Oh man Go to hell.
So yeah, no, so yeah, no.
Like I said so once, once I gotdown, got settled, got
everything started rolling, itwas a good time.
But, like I said, going back tomy last part, how we said coup,
I've been saying for the lasttwo years, ever since coup got
them cleats stolen, we ain'tseen that coup you didn't say

(01:09:48):
that TL said it, but it's just.
It made me realize ever sincethat happened, bruh, we ain't
seen.
You didn't say that, no, Ididn't see it, tl said it, but
it's just.
It made me realize.
Ever since that happened,brothers, we have not seen.
We ain't seen, we ain't seencoup, we ain't seen young way
somebody on the way yet and just, it's just to the point where
it overall it looked bad.
It looked bad as hell with him,because I'm just expecting, I

(01:10:09):
just knew fourth quarter he wasgonna get his name back this
year.
We was going to make it comelike everything was going to
come together and it slowed down.
I ain't like not one piece ofit.
But you know, overall, overallI'm happy with what we look like
.
I feel like that we can, wedefinitely going.
We're going to definitely makethe playoffs.
We're going to definitely Ithink we'll win out.

(01:10:30):
Being real, I don't think we'lllose to Tampa when we go back
down now.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
And yeah, realistically, yeah, I'm excited
about the team.
I'm not going to lie to you.
I don't think Koo should havebeen back on the team this year
after what he did last year.
But I mean, who am I?
I'm just a season ticket holder.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
I, who am?
I?
I'm just, uh, I'm just a seasonticket holder, I don't I don't
pay to watch the falcons everyweek.
Understood on that, but I thinkso what I did, what I had tuned
in on you.
I was driving over here, what'suh.
So what's, what's up with thethug stuff?
What do you feel about?

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
that Thug is a.
He's complicated.
His upbringing sucked For sure.
I wasn't there.
But when you talk about yourmama having 11 kids and y'all

(01:11:23):
living in a five bedroomapartment, then y'all finally
get a house across the streetfrom the project, and your house
is smaller than your in your uhproject, but you happy that you
got a house, you got a yard andI'm just like there's.
There's no way in hell thatyour parents can love you the
way that you need to be lovedwhen it's that many kids.

(01:11:44):
I can definitely agree withthat, though, but like, like you
know, we talk about like I usedto make jokes about the poor's
a lot on the show, but like,when you poor, especially if you
got somebody, what else yougonna do?
You gonna fuck.
So I understand why Thug is inthe situation that he's in, and

(01:12:07):
I don't fault him as much as Idid a year ago, two years ago.
I still think at some point youhave to remove yourself from
those situations, but at thesame time, it's like telling a
girl who watched her mama gether ass whooped by her daddy and
then allow her dude to whoopher ass and be like, hey, this
ain't right, but you go.

(01:12:29):
This is all I know.
This is what I've seen.
Your product or yourenvironment, exactly and and and
I was talking about where wefocus so much on the what in in
the criminal justice right, wealways focus on what somebody
did or if they did it.
But let's get to the whythey're doing it and like,
instead of just locking them up,let's find ways to help them be

(01:12:53):
better.
And think you know what I'msaying.
Like it really hit me when hesaid brian realized I was
fucking up until after all thesecalls came out and all this
shit, like I ain't know I wasliving wrong, I go.
You allegedly are responsiblefor people dying and you didn't
realize that was wrong.
But you watched your brotherget killed.

(01:13:14):
You watch your brother dyingafter he went up and shot up a
dice game Cause somebody talkedabout robbing him.
That's your big brother, so youthink that's right.
I'm supposed to go to thestreets and handle my business,
but me and you both know we gota legal system that, whether we
agree with it or not, that wehave to conform to because if we

(01:13:35):
don't, we're gonna be hangingout with them so I can agree to
disagree, let me say this.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
So the reason I say that is because it is yes, yes,
your upbringing has a lot to dowith a lot of shit that you go
through as an adult, with whatyou really have going on.
Thug he was, I think, one ofthe oldest of 11 in his mama
house and I think the fourth orfifth oldest out of 15 with his

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daddy.
So if you look at it, I guessmy point of where I'm going with
it is is Doug.
I feel like he made someexcuses realistically.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
He wasn't accountable .

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
Yeah, no, I feel like he was making some excuses
behind some of them.
But let me be real, I didn'tlike when he said that he felt
he was a fucked up personbecause he had because he talked
about.
I mean, I'm not saying it'sright or wrong.
Everybody gossip, especiallywith your, with your chick or
with your guy.
Like if y'all remind you justany of us as a human being, we

(01:14:45):
all going to have opinions aboutsome.
The only difference is Pictureif you locked in a cell by
yourself all day long with oneother person.
You ain't talking to no mama,you ain't talking to no homies,
you ain't talking to no girl.
You ain't got no nothing.
The minute that that hour youget on the phone with your
people, you're gonna rusheverything out, especially if

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you were somebody on the street.
So, for example, like if I'm asomebody on the street and I
know I done took care ofeverybody, I show love to
everybody.
When I'm home, while I'msitting down in this cage, y'all
can't throw me a little love.
For example, what he said aboutFuture I can't argue that.

(01:15:27):
I feel I'm going to look forthat love too.
Like future, you supposed to bemy boy as soon as I come home
you ready to drop a song, butwhile I'm in here you don't want
to do a free, a free thugconcert for me, when you know I
would have did that shit 20times just for you.
I would did a tour behind you.
Same thing when he said withwham, with little baby, like I,

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little baby, and drake showedhim, showed me real love.
That's the reason why you won'thear too much bad shit behind
them.
They showed me love while I'min this cage again.
Niggas that when you get put inthat box and you ain't got
people, you ain't got yoursupport system that you have
when you home, that shit'll makeyou, it'll make you a dog,
it'll make you a demon,especially when you feel all

(01:16:08):
these people don't forgot aboutyou because they think they
think you gone well.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
I think that's where we're more aligned than than
than it may seem, because Iagree with thug and him saying
and feeling the abandonment,talking about how ring the the
big picture of the interview wasright.
I think you just want to beloved, that's it.
Like he just won't love andthat's most of us.
We just have different lifepaths that take us to that

(01:16:35):
different place.
But but just hold on real quickbefore you respond.
And I want to say this youcan't get out talking about
niggas talking too much andratting when you are even the
pillow talking right with hisgirl.

(01:16:57):
I don't consider that ratting,but I consider it inappropriate
conversation to have when you'rebeing recorded, because now
think about this.
Obviously jill is different, butwe take stuff from our real
life and put it on the show.
But we speak at, we speak on itin a way because we know we're
being recorded, because whetherit's people we know, people

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we're close to people we don'tknow, or people we don't fuck
with, they may see it.
We understand that there arepublic ramifications for that
and there's a lack of contextthat could be added to that
conversation when it's when it'srecorded.
You know, because you know howI am when I go out, bro, don't
put no camera in my face, like,if it's not my phone, don't put

(01:17:42):
this shit in my face.
Like cause that's how I am, soit's just.
It leaves me conflicted,because I totally understand why
he acts the way that he doesand I would act the same way,
but I just wouldn't project theanti-rat stuff the way that he
did, especially if I knew that Iwas speaking on stuff in a

(01:18:05):
public forum, because, again, ajail phone call is a public
forum that should be privatethat's all.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
So what?
What you saying is I I canagree to to a certain extent,
but the difference behind thatis thug didn't say nothing like
that could get nobody locked up.
What he was pissed off aboutwas the fact that the people
that told on him he could fuckaround and put him in prison
forever.
The shit he was saying on thosephones he called Glorilla ugly,

(01:18:34):
he called, he called.
He was pissed off at.
He was pissed off at Future.
He made a comment about Gunnashit.
So I mean a lot of shit he wassaying wasn't it wasn't personal
shots, it was opinion based ofshit he was saying wasn't
personal, it wasn't personalshots, it was opinion based,
like, if you feel a certain typeof way again, like I said, when
you sitting in a box for 23 andone, you got a bunch of time to

(01:18:57):
think about everything that'sgoing on.
I sat in a box with two othermotherfuckers for 12.
But that ain't picture youdoing that for five for three
years.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
I was in that bed for 12 hours.
Oh man, Nigga, it's awful.
I would have wished I couldhave got a Wendy's cheese burger
and tell on somebody Come onman.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
So that's the thing and it's like but it also go
back to what you said as wellit's like thug, yeah, he want
love, but the thing is he don'tjust want love, he want real
love.
When you a millionaire nigga,you gonna get love from
everybody.
Everybody love you.
When you up, when you gotchicken, when you helping the
whole community, you helping thewhole Joan Burrell South.
So like it's easier that way.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
But I think that's where where he needs to grow and
I'm not not gonna go throughdifferent things is.
You know me, and you donetalked about this privately,
given my current life situationwhen you up, yeah, you won't
love, and you, you, you get it.

(01:19:59):
But then, when you ain't up,you really find out who truly
loves you.
And, yeah, it hurts when you'regoing through that process,
don't get me wrong.
But, nigga, I love you more nowbecause of what I've gone
through in the last few months.
You know what I mean like, likeas my dog, like we're closer
because of shit I've gonethrough and the way you've been
a friend for me in a differentsituation for me, not thinking

(01:20:23):
that you were my friend becauseof because I was up, because
that's not what our friendshipwas built on, but I was up, so,
like, I don't know how shitworks when I'm not up.
So that's why I say it's justso layered and that's why I hate
the street Culture, the streetcode.
I hate it so much because Yo,this nigga, just wants to be

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Loved like a human being andhe's good at Music, but he's
also fucked up in the headbecause of the environment he
grew up in.
And then he's like, hey, warner, you don't exist without me,
how you gonna do me like this?
I feel him on that.
At the same time, if I'm Warner,I'm like, hey, nigga, I ain't
do none of that shit, I wasn'tinvolved.
You want me to say this is agang again if you, I don't

(01:21:09):
involved.
You want me to say this is agang Again if you?
I don't know what their privateconversations are, so I ain't
saying I ain't gonna call Gunnaa stand-up man.
I won't do that right, becauseThug should not feel betrayed in
the way that he feels betrayedif Gunna's a stand-up man.
Like I tell y'all things allthe time If we doing something
illegal together, we doingsomething illegal together, we

(01:21:36):
doing it together.
And if we get caught it, what I?
I'm gonna take responsibilityfor my actions.
But if you're doing illegalstuff and it comes back and it
can affect me and I'm notinvolved, I want y'all niggas to
know from jump I'm not sittingdown for you.
I'll sit down for us.
I'm not sitting down for you.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
If that's an open conversation that you have
before them, people, then theyshould know not to even put you
in that situation.
So, for example, if Gunna, ifhe preached that and he was big
on that, then cool.
But the fact of the matter, bro, you got to understand who
Gunna's daddy is.
Gunna's daddy is true, andthat's that's who Doug said like
I only came and got you becauseof him, I only made you a

(01:22:21):
superstar because of him.
And the fact of that being thematter, bro you gotta.
That's the reason why I say itlike certain shit I get.
If he made it seem like hewasn't on that type of time,
he's not gonna be on that typeof time, cool.
But the fact that SergioKitchen made it seem like he he,
what'd he say?
He was crippling like a,crippling like a 60, crippling

(01:22:42):
like a fool doing all this andthat you can't pick and choose
certain things, that's, that'sreally the only thing.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
I feel and I agree with you, and that's why I say I
can't call him a stand-up man,because we'll never know the
true details of what peopleexpected from him.
But I will say that one thingthat we all have to learn is
that nobody loves you more thanyou and you can't expect people,

(01:23:11):
even if you have their bestinterest at heart with how you
move with them, for them to havetheir your best interest at
heart even.
I'm talking about your family,your, your lady, your partners.
Like it's a sad thing, but Iguess because I've been hurt by
people in life.

(01:23:31):
I don't expect people toreciprocate what I give them.
I only expect them to bethemselves.
So if you do something that'soutside of your character, I'm
hurt, but if you fuck me over bybeing the person who I know you
to be, I can only be mad atmyself for allowing you that

(01:23:53):
access to me to then fuck meover.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
And I can agree with.
That's how I move, like I'm one.
I'm one of those guys I leadwith I feel like everybody gonna
fuck me over.
So with that being, with thatbeing my my mindset, like it
don't hurt me when as much aswhen I get my feelings hurt and
I know it's fucked up, it's ashitty mindset to have, but I'm
one of those ones that Nigga,you've been hurt before.

(01:24:18):
Exactly so I feel like I leadwith.
I feel like everybody gonnahurt me, regardless of what the
case may be.
So I just make sure, shit hey,if you gonna hurt me, just just
don't break me.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
like don't fucking, I'm not gonna allow you to break
yeah, exactly because I'm gonnaput certain stuff in, whether
it's the way I I think aboutshit or the access I give you,
and I think thug hadn't gottenthere yet and I hope, hopefully,
moving forward, he's gottenthere because I was bothered at

(01:24:52):
how hurt he was, like he seemedshocked that people switched.
And if you look at anyorganized criminal syndicate and
I'm not calling ysl a gangbecause thug said no, we wasn a
gang, we were just a bunch ofgangsters doing gangster shit,
and so it looked like we was agang, but all that shit wasn't

(01:25:14):
in concert To some degree Ibelieve that.
Other things I do believe heset up Because again, nigga,
you're not, it's PR.
You got to spin a narrative,but I don't know man, it's thick

(01:25:41):
and it's layered.
And I don't know man, it'sthick and it's layered.
And I don't think there's aright answer about this.
I just think it's an importantconversation for people to have
to evaluate.
The people you're aroundevaluate got more to lose than
that, because some people don'thave more to lose.
Like Woody didn't have none.
Like he a trench baby.
He gotta go be a trench baby.
But like when you become thugand you get to that level, you

(01:26:02):
then have to find ways toelevate out of that and remove
yourself from that.
And I'm not saying you don't besolid.
I ain't saying don't go back tothe hood, I ain't saying don't
put your niggas on.
All I'm saying is don't beresponsible for obvious crimes,
especially violent crimes.
Now, if you want to push alittle dope because you on tour
and you you know I'm saying youbuying big chunks of drugs for

(01:26:26):
your consumption you know youcan go to another city and move
it.
I'm not telling you to do that.
But if that's what you're gonnado, all right, bro, whatever, I
don't care.
I don't care about niggasselling drugs because you ain't
killing people.
But then when it starts gettinglike killing people, even if
it's quote, unquote, warrantedby your street code, well,
you're no longer in the streets.
So you now need to move andoperate in the codes in which,

(01:26:51):
in the life that you're living.
And if you're not, don't bedisappointed when street shit
happens.
Cause, last thing, you look atthe New York mob scene, the
niggas who they be naming, theyclicks after who they be naming
themselves, after a lot of themsnitched that's a fact.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
That's a fact, though , but it's like you said.
It's just with that, thoughit's and we couldn't end it
after this is closed out on thisone.
It's just more so, as I feellike with thug, though is one I
feel like bank, bank is the onewho bank is responsible for that
whole interview he, he was sogood.
Bank was good as fuck on that.
Bank did it.
He asked the questions thatneed to be asked.

(01:27:32):
He wasn't picking sides, hedidn't do none of that.
He literally was being open and, like I say, man, I got to give
a shout out to Bank Because,bank, the way he conducted that
whole interview, he let Thugtalk, didn't cut him off, let
him get everything he needed tosay out.
It was let him get everything heneed to say out.
It was one of the more.
It was one of the interviewsthat if you got three hours, two

(01:27:54):
hours and 59 minutes, to beexact, you got that time to sit
down and really listen, you giveyour own opinion about it.
Personally, I say this and Ican close it out right here, is
if you ain't never and I mean Iain't even gonna say never if
you ain't been, if you ain'teven going to say never, if you
ain't been forced to sit in thatcell and do at least a week, I

(01:28:14):
don't want to hear nobody sayingtoo much or can't call him a
snitch because again, he didn'ttell on nobody.
Nothing that he said in thoseconversations could have got
nobody locked up, couldn't havegot nobody arrested, none of

(01:28:35):
that he just made his opinionTalking to his girl, and the
fact that those records leakedright after Gunna just left YSL.
Hey, now Wax said he got tapes.

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
I mean, I get it.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
alright, now Wax said he got the tapes.
I mean I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
It's a public record.
So again Wax said it's a bunchof niggas down there, give them
500, you get what you want.
That's what he said.
I listened to Joe Budden calledhim on his Patreon episode
Friday and they had a quickconversation and again I

(01:29:12):
listened to it today.
It was recorded.
Friday.
Wax said oh, now we're gonnarelease the uh, the mariah,
we're gonna release the tapeabout him talking about he would
get back with his baby mom, himand morales, him, morales is
about to break up.
That tape dropped what saturday, sunday, and now she on her
talking shit, shit about him andhe's in.
Waxed it this on Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
Well, I thought so.
So, Mariah, I thought Mariahwas riding with him.

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
She was until like the last couple of days.

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
Oh, until that last.

Speaker 1 (01:29:41):
So I mean that's the one with that, the one that just
leaked today about him sayinghe wanted a baby by that,
whoever that girl was, yeah, butbut like it's jail talk wanted
a baby by that, whoever thatgirl was, yeah, but but like
it's jail talk, it's jail talkand but also whack being able to
talk about it before it cameout and then, like me, listening
to it after it already came out, you just go.
Well, that goes into me and mybeliefs about whack 100.

(01:30:03):
But last thing on this I'll sayI don't really watch the Big
Facts podcast.
I'm usually not interested intheir content at all, but I
listen to the interview and I go.
I don't think there's aquestion that he came up with
that I probably wouldn't think,that I wouldn't think of yeah,

(01:30:24):
but I could not get thoseanswers.
And that's what I appreciatedabout it, because he's a former
street guy who's respected,who's handled himself honorably,
and so when thug was sayingcertain stuff, he's like, hey,
bro, we ain't on that no more.
And I don't know if thug heardit, but he presented it in a way
that thug would not stoptalking and like, if I, if I say

(01:30:46):
, hey, bro, you can't be doingno shit like that, he gonna shut
up interview over.
You know, I mean because I'mnot a street guy, bro, you can't
be doing no shit like that hegoing to shut off the interview
over.
You know what I mean BecauseI'm not a street guy.
I can't relate to him on thatlevel and I think that was so
important and I'll just pointthat out as a blind spot that I
have.
It's like, bro, I ain't nostreet nigga.
After listening to thisinterview, I'm going to be very
I'm going to be a bit more abouthow I talk about street.

(01:31:06):
Stuff does not change how Ifeel about it Big picture, but
it does change how I feel aboutthe people who are involved in
it, because he really opened upthe door of his brain and how he
makes his decisions.
And you go oh, this ain't youain't, you ain't stupid, you're
just ignorant Like you.

(01:31:26):
You just have a you you have a.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
It's raised different .

Speaker 1 (01:31:30):
Yeah, you was raised different, you have a flawed
worldview that is not acceptableto the majority of people in
the world, but it works for youin your circle.
That's fact.
Hey, what else were you goingto talk about, man?
We got like like, honestly v,you picked the top because I've
talked about it.
Like I talked about the thuginterview, so I haven't.
I talked about the Thuginterview, so I haven't talked

(01:31:51):
about anything below the Thuginterview.
But if there's anything aboveit that you want to cover, like
it's there, like I mean Caneloand Bud we talked about it.
But the fights this week Floydand Mike I think that's a better
like we don't got to talk aboutit now.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
I think it's better when we have a lot of us in here
to like talk loud about it okay, but again, whatever you want
to talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:32:15):
What is that?
What do niggas owe?
So me and dean were at the game.
We're talking, and you know how, like people talk about how, um
, oh, she can sing for a whitewoman.
Oh, oh, them white folks cancook.
Hey, that white girl got rhythm.
I start thinking about the stuffthat, like black, people think

(01:32:38):
that we own, like cooking.
We don't own cooking.
Nobody actually owns cooking,because everybody cooks, but we
feel like we're the best cooks,but then when we actually start
eating high end food, we're noteating nigga food.
We talk about everyday food.
Then we talk about rhythm.
We got the rhythm, the soul.
We cool, we fly, people want tobe like us, right, but you
can't actually own that andprofit off of it, yeah.

(01:32:59):
And then we think about othercultures, like you think about
Arabs.
They own hotels, they own gasstations, right, own gas
stations, right, that's kind oftheir corner.
You have the jewish community.
They own banks, they're lawyers, you know, I mean, that's kind
of their corner over there inmusic industry.
Then you have, uh, uh, whitepeople who have their various
businesses.
Then you have, like the koreansyou know I'm saying in

(01:33:19):
vietnamese they own nail shops,they own the beauty stores, you
know, I mean like all thesedifferent things.
And then I'm like hey man,black people, we claim the
rhythm being cool and cooking.
Doesn't everybody else Like?
What do we actually?

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
own.
I feel like we we definitelygot to put us in rhythm and
blues.
I mean, I know you say R&B, Ifeel like music.
I feel like that's our lane.

Speaker 1 (01:33:42):
I feel like no no, no , no, no, no.
Not things we're good at,because we don't own the
recording companies.

Speaker 2 (01:33:52):
Oh, so you mean economically what is?

Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
hours that you have to come to black people to get
and then we actually control it,because I don't think we own
and control anything.

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
I used to say I would have said nigga a couple years
ago.
But I don't even own nigga, nomore.
They tell us that we shouldn'tsay nigga no more.

Speaker 1 (01:34:16):
Like Skip Bayless says, I don't think the N-word
should be uttered.
Bayless, you're not black.
I don't care how you feel aboutthe N-word.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
I don't think you should say it, but like, hey,
white man, you can't tell me, Ican't say nigga, you can't tell
me, I can't say nigga.
Being real, what we don't ownshit, we own ideas.
That's tough, that's tough.
That's tough.
I would I'm going to have tocome back on that one because

(01:34:42):
that's a really good questionbut I ain't put no, I ain't put
no thought into that.
That's tough.

Speaker 1 (01:34:48):
And maybe we circle back when we got the whole gang
In here and we can talk aboutwhat we should own and how we
should Try to own it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
Now that you say it, though, like and not being
racist or Anything like that,but it's like when you think
About, like Indians, they, gasstations, hotels, shit like that
.
When you think Like you saidcertain certain but and that's

(01:35:16):
all the same thing.
So I mean it's like it'scertain shit, that like
everything right hand in handand something.

Speaker 1 (01:35:21):
Yeah, god damn that is tough, but just think about
the show.
Right, we own the rights to theshow, yeah, but we didn't buy
any of the stuff to make thisshow from a black company.
If we make money off of thisshow, well, I pay stream yard,
you know.
I mean we pay stream yard to doit.
He pays buzzsprout to host apodcast.

(01:35:44):
Facebook doesn't charge us.
But if we make money offfacebook, facebook has made, so
has made whatever they madebefore they bust it down to.
Same with YouTube.
Same with Instagram.
We can't even produce ablack-owned podcast using
black-owned shit to keep all themoney In-house.

(01:36:08):
Yeah, that's a fact, it doesn'texist.
That's a fact and it takes meback to the killer Mike show
that he did on Netflix when hetried to like do all these
different stuff, only doingblack owned stuff, and he
couldn't buy a car becausethere's no black owned car
manufacturers.
You like had to use, like heended up taking like a bus from

(01:36:31):
a black owned bus company.
Like like a greyhound type shitor a leisure time.

Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
I've never thought, I've never thought about that,
but it's still not a black ownedbus you know, what.
I mean, I've never.
I've never thought about that,though being real.
I've never thought about that.
That's tough, that's tough asfuck.
I've never thought about that,though being real.
That's tough, that's tough asfuck.
What do we on?
I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:36:58):
I mean Jay-Z, one of our biggest billionaires that we
.
I mean hip-hop, fuck the othermoney-making billionaires.
I mean a nigga who came throughas talent and stuff that we
strive for.
Of nation, I mean rock nation.
He may quote unquote, own it,but it's a partnership with live

(01:37:18):
like.
Yeah, like live nations wouldmake rock nation what it is.
Rock nation, live nation ain'tblack on like.
We don't even own the shit wegood at and dominate in.
We don't own sports teams, butthe leagues are.
The two major cash producingleagues in America are ran by
black players.
We don't own teams.
We don't own the companies thatendorse it.

(01:37:42):
We don't own the media outletsthat cover these teams.
You know what I mean, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:37:48):
I've never thought about it that way.
Nah, that's a fact.
We still slaves.

Speaker 1 (01:37:51):
Yeah god, I've never thought about it that way.
No, that's a fact.
Like we still slaves, you know,I mean definitely that's a.

Speaker 2 (01:37:54):
that's a conversation we got to get the crew in here
for, because that that is a goodtopic for sure.
That's a good ass topic forsure.
And I know I mean shout outmellow and dwight howard making
that, uh, making that of Fame.
But I do want to ask that Ididn't like Chris Paul's fat ass
.
You know how I feel about ChrisPaul anyway, I did not like him

(01:38:17):
wearing a jacket over stuffbeing real and I know it's extra
doubt and I know a lot ofpeople ain't going to like that.
I did not like him having ajacket over stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:38:28):
Well, it's not his personal jacket, it's his team
jacket.

Speaker 2 (01:38:33):
I get it, I don't like it.
I really don't, I just don't, Idon't like it.
You know how I feel about ChrisPaul anyway, fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:38:40):
Chris Paul, I don't like oh no.
I don't like it with LeBron,and you know I'm a LeBron guy.
Why?

Speaker 2 (01:38:45):
Why.

Speaker 1 (01:38:48):
Why is LeBron and Chris Paul the first active NBA
players to be in the Hall ofFame?
Yeah, that's more LeBron,that's definitely LeBron.
Building up the resume to bethe GOAT.
That's a fact, because ChrisPaul's not in that conversation,
so we don't care about ChrisPaul being there.
I just didn't like that either.
I get you Chris Paul.

(01:39:09):
Unless he is retired, chrisPaul should not be an active
Hall of Famer.
Steph Curry's not.

Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
No, that's my only thing.
It's like Kawhi Leonard shouldbe there before he is, so it's
like it's a bunch of shit.

Speaker 1 (01:39:22):
No, I ain't going to say Kawhi Bro I mean I have to
Two-time MVP.

Speaker 2 (01:39:29):
two-time that right there in itself is more than
Chris Paul.

Speaker 1 (01:39:32):
Chris Paul, game to game, has been a better
basketball player than KawhiLeonard over the span of their
career.
I think Kawhi at his peak isbetter than Chris Paul.

Speaker 2 (01:39:43):
I hate when people fucking say that and I don't
know why.
I hate when people say that.
My thing is how I.
I hate when people say that mything is how, what did he, what
has he done that made him abetter player than kawaii
leonard?

Speaker 1 (01:39:56):
he pretty much wins, everywhere he goes same kawaii.

Speaker 2 (01:40:02):
When kawaii is on the floor, same with him and uh.

Speaker 1 (01:40:05):
Unfortunately for kawaii, chris is on the floor
more regularly than kawaii.
But don't get me wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
I think that kawaii quietest peak is much better
than chris paul could ever beand I feel like that's but and
then that's what you're saying,like and I think personally,
though, I feel like it's just weonly can say that from one from
like, was it one or two yearsreally worth of basketball that
he sat out, which with theClippers, the last year with the

(01:40:36):
Clippers, or his last two yearswith the Clippers for real?
But it's like ever since hecame from Toronto he was banged
up when he came from there.

Speaker 1 (01:40:46):
But remember, when he came into the league he was
just a role player with ChrisPaul, came in as a star and
started whooping early I meanlike chris and chris paul is
likely going to have a longercareer than kawhi, so chris paul
has more years of whooping thankawhi, but kawhi has whooped
harder than uh, chris paul, it'sit's just a weird dynamic.

Speaker 2 (01:41:12):
That's why I say that's, I don't know, bro, I
don't know, I don't know because, again, I don't, I don't agree
in no way, in no point, in nopoint.
Only because of I feel like,yes, he did come in with more, a
bigger hype, but he didn't do,I mean, and he was nice in new
orleans compared to Kawhi comingin as a role player and winning
the finals MVP is like it'sjust this certain shit where I

(01:41:36):
don't mind coming in as a roleplayer if at the end of that
second was it second?
Year he won, second was itsecond?

Speaker 1 (01:41:42):
I want to say second year he was in the league.

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
Second or third year in the league, I go get a final.

Speaker 1 (01:41:48):
He was 2010 draft.
I believe they won it in 2014.
Year four.
Okay, cool my bad, so yearthree yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:55):
So three, four, whatever, I don't mind being a
role player because, again,remind you, I'm coming in with
arguably the best power forwardever.
Play the game I got one of thetop role players.
Or, excuse me, top six men inthe game with Manu the top role
players.
Or, excuse me, top six men inthe game with my new I got
arguably one of the best pointguards is playing the game.
Tony uh, tony uh, park park,excuse me.
So it's like I say, bro, it'sthey have a full team, a full

(01:42:18):
team.
If I come in and I'm justplaying my role but then at the
end of the day, I win the finalsmvp, I don't know, bro, I don't
know, I don't mind being a roleplayer coming in, but then, at
the end of the day, it's my team.
The ball got to come through mebefore we do anything for real.

Speaker 1 (01:42:35):
I'm not going to argue too much with you about it
because I get it.
I just I give Chris Paul creditfor his longevity, but at the
same time I watch how Chris Paulplays and has a basketball
player.
I wouldn't want to play withhim.
Same time, I watch how chrispaul plays and has a basketball
play, wouldn't want to play withhim.
I'm playing guard like nigga.
Give me the ball so I can dowhat I want to do.
Don't give me the ball and tellme what to do with it, even if

(01:42:56):
you're right.
Nah, like, let me, let me do mefor a little bit then.
Then you know the fourthquarter.
You need me right here.
Can't shoot.
I bet.
Second game, second quarter.
I need to go boogie because youknow, as sometimes, bro, you
just got to get out there, gotto get your own feet wet and do
you so you can be comfortableplaying in the role.

(01:43:16):
But like, if you just sit inthe corner all game and you
ain't touching the ball, bro,I'm not rebounding or playing
defense, fuck that.

Speaker 2 (01:43:22):
That ain't going to mess the whole flow up, but the
thing about Mello versus Dwight,I Versus Dwight.

Speaker 1 (01:43:31):
I saw this post that put their career accolades next
to each other.
Mello made top 75.
Dwight Howard didn't.
That was baloney.
And I think Mello, because ofhis association with LeBron
D-Wade and Chris Paul, he getselevated above what his actual
output was.
Don't get me wrong Mellow wasnice Scoring champion.

(01:43:53):
Bye Like.
If I have a son and he decideshe wants to play basketball, you
will watch Mellow footwork.
You will learn how to play outof the out of the high post,
like Mellow, like you, you'regoing to learn that because
that's just that translates towhatever position you play.
But just in bullshitconversation we will put Melo

(01:44:17):
over Dwight, just talkingbasketball, because the way Melo
played it looked better.
But do you really think Melohad a better NBA career than
Dwight?
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:44:25):
And I was just going to say no, I don't.
Personally, I'm not even goingto say what you just said.
I don't even agree with that.
Fuck man.
You'm not even going to saywhat you just said, I don't even
agree with that.

Speaker 1 (01:44:30):
Fuck man.
You were supposed to be on.

Speaker 2 (01:44:32):
Mellow, I was supposed to debate this.
I love Mellow, but that's whatI'm saying.
I love Mellow Again.
Me and Ru we talk about it allthe time, them short steps.
I was a big fan of that.
I love a big guy up, pulling upfrom wherever.
However, man, when we when weseen that dude number 12 come in

(01:44:52):
in orlando not all that otherweird shit he had going on other
when he came into in orlandoand see how dominant he was,
every game dwight, how was thebest big man in the league.
For his first, well, came inthe league and on second or
third he came in the league.
In the third he came in theleague in the 0405 season.

Speaker 1 (01:45:13):
Shaq was probably still better than him in 0405
after the Miami.
It's about 07 to about 2012 ish.

Speaker 2 (01:45:23):
When did DeMarcus Cousins come in the league?
He came in the league in 2011.
All right, so I say between2011 and 2012,.
Like you said, yeah gonna go.
He was, he was this, he wasright behind shack.
But even then, after year,after year, two of him being in
the league, I feel he, even heeven left shack shack got old,

(01:45:43):
got you know again he got lazydwight howard was.
He was one of the ones.

Speaker 1 (01:45:47):
Dwight Howard led a team to the finals and Mello
didn't, and so I'm like, hey, Iget why, aesthetically, mello
makes all 75, but Dwight Howardthe first overall pick, not a
second or, excuse me, a third.
Dwight came straight out ofhigh school.
He didn't go to college.
Mello went to college.

(01:46:08):
Yeah, you won your championshipin college, but you went to
college.
Dwight didn't have to and stillwent one.
He came out a year later anddidn't go one and Dwight got
DPOYs.
He got the All-NBAs, thefirst-team All-NBAs.
He got the blocks, the rebounds.
He got to a finals.

(01:46:30):
He ended up winning achampionship with the Lakers.
Dwight was better than Melo andDwight we talk about.
Should AD be on all 75?
Should Dane be on all 75?
Should Melo be on all 75?
That's the real question.
Maybe he should be on all 100.

(01:46:53):
But, like Melo, melllow is thenigga right.
Mellow is the guy who's coolwith the guys who got the hoes
and then he end up with a baddiebecause his guys got five
baddies over here.
There's five of them and shecame over here to go, but she
didn't come over here for mellow.
She came over here for there'sfive of them.
She came over here to go, butshe didn't come over here for
Mello.
She came over here for the crew, whereas Shorty, who came over

(01:47:14):
here for Braun it's hypotheticalcame over here for Braun.
Shorty came over here for CP,came over here for CP.
Shorty came over here forD-Wade, because I think D-Wade,
because he's the oldest one inthe group D-Wade got a bunch of
little guys to look ass.

Speaker 2 (01:47:26):
Little bitty asians, come on him and dwight howard
might be the same I'm not gonnaput that on d-way.

Speaker 1 (01:47:32):
I'm not gonna put that on d-way because I listened
to how d-way talked about howhe had to revamp his parenting
style and he pretty much waslike when, when zaya started
going through her transition andstuff his transition I'm tired
of.
I'm tired of that, I'm tired ofthat shit.

Speaker 2 (01:47:52):
now that boy has a ding-a-ling.
He ain't no girl yet, andthat's what pisses me off.
If y'all want to do that andwant to start calling him Zia,
cut it off.
Show me how bad you is, Dwight.
Show me how bad y'all is.

Speaker 1 (01:48:06):
We'll come back to that because I got some for you
on that, right, but he's crazy.
But what the way it was?
He was like when, when it cameto me with this, I'm like, fuck
me, like he had to go learn, andand then say, hey, despite how

(01:48:31):
I feel about this, I'm going tobe here to support my child,
because I love my child and Iwant to be the best parent for
that child.
Now, however, you choose to dealwith stuff like that.
I'm not going to tell anybodyhow to deal with that, because
if my daughter comes to me andtell me, daddy, I'm a boy, I'm
not going to sit here and tellyou that my podcast answer is my
answer to my child the day thatI find out.
But I want to work to a place,to where you are happy with who

(01:48:53):
you are and you still feel thelove from your father, even if I
disagree with your lifestyle.
Hey, you put me a little dab inthere.
I, yeah, you know I I left the.
You know I was doing a soloshow.
I thought doing a solo show.
I thought I was doing a soloshow.
I'm like, oh golly, I don'twant to break a look at her.
But back to.

(01:49:14):
I told you to put a pen in.
Oh, About him cutting it off.
I was listening to somebodytalk about that shit, right, and
they said so you want me toaccept somebody as trans?
Well, I want you to accept you.
Remember Rachel Dolezal, thewhite chick who said she was
like black, did the NAACP shit.

(01:49:37):
You know what I mean?
Like she was wearing like niggahair and like yeah, yeah, I
know exactly who you're talkingabout.

Speaker 2 (01:49:43):
Yeah, here you go.

Speaker 1 (01:49:43):
And they was like, okay, so she's black.
They were like, no, she's notblack.
And they're like well then,that that trans person isn't
their transgender, they are whatthey were born.
As if you're gonna say thatshe's not black because I look
at her, she's not black, she'sjust trying to be black.
She was the one that was wearingthem little wigs and all that
dumb shit, yeah and so then thespin-off, the spin back was like

(01:50:06):
well, if, how can you respectthe trans phobic, the detroit,
not transphobic the transsexualperson, but you can't respect
the transracial person.
So now we're picking andchoosing what trans we want to
respect.

Speaker 2 (01:50:22):
It's real oh, that's real.
That's definitely real.
Because again I feel like and Iand this gonna.
Again I feel like and this isgoing to sound crazy, but I feel
like so many people want somany like, and maybe it's just
me, it's so many people thatwant a bunch of black guys,

(01:50:43):
black men, to be trans, andmaybe I don't want to come off
as shitty when I say that, butit's like.
If everybody, if we can't havethat same standard for
everything and everybody, Idon't feel this.
And if he, like I said, if hewant to be considered trans and
or if he, if she want to beconsidered as she, you don't

(01:51:05):
need to have that body part, nomore.
You got enough money.
Your mama got it, your stepmama, your daddy, y'all got enough
bread.
If y'all want to do the fullthing, stop playing.
If you want to go paint yournails and you want to do all
that to make him feel better,dwight or Dwayne, cut yours off
too Like I mean again.

Speaker 1 (01:51:25):
I mean, I'm just being real.

Speaker 2 (01:51:27):
Everybody want to play like it's okay until it's
really put in your face and youreally got to do what you asking
and saying.
You want everybody to be okaywith you.
Want us to call this man whatis it Zia, instead of his real
name, hey if you want to?

Speaker 1 (01:51:43):
damn, bro, I was trying to think of a girl name
for you, but your sister's gotthem Vanessa.
If you want to cut your dickoff and be vanessa, I'm gonna
call you vanessa and you stillgonna be my friend.
But you know what I won't do.
I won't cut my dick off and goby, christina you know what I
mean like, like and so, andthat's where I land with it.

(01:52:04):
Hey, dog, you do what you wantto do.
Grown-ass person and againgrown person.
I ain't talking about no kids,grown-ass person and I again
grown person.
I ain't talking about no kids,grown-ass person, and I don't
even know what grown means.
Because we just talked aboutThug Head being fucked up
because of his upbringing andnow, in his 30s, realizing that
his head's fucked up.
But you, grown-ass, if you wantto do something, you do it.
But I can sit here and say, hey, I won't do that.

(01:52:27):
I don't hate you for it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:30):
But again, if you but if you want to go, is that if
you want to go into thatclassification as a trans and
you want us to treat you like atrans instead of a man, then
stand on what you're saying.
That's all we say.
Like, don't try and get mad atus because we're still calling
him him instead of her, becausethat's just you know.

(01:52:50):
Because if you don't give adamn about no pronoun, what you
are is what you are.

Speaker 1 (01:52:55):
The shit between your legs in our society.
Right, let me stop being PC.
Hey, we pick and choose.
We call you him or her based onwhat you got between your legs.
That's it, that's all.

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
I'm saying, that's all.

Speaker 1 (01:53:08):
I'm saying, that's all I'm saying, nobody's against
.
I don't think we're againstpeople changing themselves.
Now, if you change, if you gofrom man to woman because I'm
single now, he's not single, I'msingle, I'm not hitting these
streets.
Maybe if you was born with apecker, just let me know before.

(01:53:31):
Now my choice is going to bemove in a different direction.
But let me move in thatdifferent direction.
Don't let me end up in some AIpussy Nah, that's a joke.
But don't let me end up in some.
I don't want to have sex with atrans and find out after the

(01:53:52):
fact.
And I think that if I don'tthink that's transphobic and I
think that if you are trans, youowe that to people who do not
move that way.
Because if I'm into women,which I am, and you are just a
woman and I only want women whowere born as women, you should

(01:54:14):
allow me the opportunity tofucking disclose, to make that
decision, just like if you havean STD in Galilee.
I'm not putting trans with STDs, two totally different things.
But again, you are legallyobligated to tell somebody hey,
I have an STD, if not, you willbe punished.
To tell somebody hey, I have anstd, if not, you will be
punished.
And then we talk about consent,just like if I pulled a rub off

(01:54:34):
during sex without your consent,that can be sexual assault,
right?
I think the same thing shouldgo for, uh, trans people.
You should have to express thatyou are trans before somebody
engages in sexual activities,because everybody does not want
to play that game and theyshould not have to play that

(01:54:55):
game unknowingly.
Uh, and we're just being fair.
And again, if you want to betrans and if you want to fuck
trans, I don't care.
Yeah, I'm just.
Oh, I'm just old school.

Speaker 2 (01:55:04):
That's it and that's how I look at, like you can do
whatever you choose to do.
Don't feel like, but don't feellike people should be obligated
to do the certain shit thatyou're asking, because, again, I
say the same thing I just said.
I feel like if you want to bethat or if you want to have
those titles that we classifyyou as what you got between your

(01:55:28):
legs as a heterosexual male, Ifeel like I'm going to look at
you and if I see you got a fullfacial hair and you wearing, you
know, walking around in a skirtand whatever, but I know you
got some ding-a-ling down there,you're going to be a man.
To me I don't give a damn whatyour outfit look like.
If you got some ding-a-lingdown there, you a man and that's

(01:55:51):
what it is and you know, andthat's just how I look at it.

Speaker 1 (01:55:53):
And as we close this out, I'll tell you the thing I
hate most about.
You're transphobic.
No, I don't have a problem withyou being trans, I don't.
But like I call me and mebecause they have dicks.
After the game, friday right,we walk into the local.
You know todd knows people inthat place in there.

(01:56:14):
You know I don't be knowingpeople unless we went to school
together.
Dude, go.
I'm talking to todd becausetodd beat me.
Now he goes.
Um, you look like you came hereto buy some bills.
I looked at him.
I said you got a dick.
He was like yeah, I was like,fuck, I'm buying you a bill for

(01:56:35):
I don't buy bills for dicks.
He said I'm going to play theKung Fu King.
After this he was like, oh no,that's good I'm talking about
from my mouth.
That ain't Kung Fu King, playthe comfort camp.
After this you were like, oh no, that's good I'm talking about
from my mouth.
And I said but you have a dick,right, I don't buy drinks for
dicks.
And I mean, and do I buy drinksfor my guys?

(01:56:56):
Absolutely.
I didn't know this man from acan of paint.
He knew todd, you just go, Iwalk on the ball.
You asked me to buy you a billdog.
You could have been the baddestchick in the bar and you're
gonna get a a nasty responsefrom me asking me to buy you a
beer Dog.
You could have been the baddestchick in the bar and you're
going to get a nasty responsefrom me asking me to buy you a
drink.
And you ain't talk to me.
We ain't.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, dude.
That's it, first word.
Hey, dude, if you was even intome and you wanted me to buy you
a drink because you wanted meto take you home, hey, warm me

(01:57:18):
up.
Don't just come in that strongbro, because I promise you come
in that strong Like.
If you a woman, who I like, Iwill give you some pushback and
still buy you a drink, but you aman, I don't know.
And I don't want to take youhome, because the last thing I
want to see is a man grabbinghis ankles in my house.
I'm just not into that.

(01:57:39):
If you into me and grabbingankles in your house, shout out
to you, I have it, but nigga,don't ask me for no drink.
Like bro, I wish you could havebeen there because your face, I
mean because you just wouldhave walked.
Imagine walking into a localseeing Dean talk to somebody.
Walk in, dab him with the firstthing he say to you oh man,
look, you came here to buy me adrink and I didn't call him a
motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (01:58:00):
Nah, I mean that would have had me.
I don't know, Dean got too manygoddamn friends anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:58:05):
Oh man.

Speaker 2 (01:58:08):
That's what I told his dad.

Speaker 1 (01:58:09):
Bro, I don't even like going to the games with
Dean.
Oh God, Because you was talkingabout all the kids coming up to
him and stuff and the peopleand I just be there chilling and
you know me Trying to watch thegame.

Speaker 2 (01:58:20):
I ain't dapping up, I ain't daffing up, I ain't
trying to do all that.
I'm trying to watch the gamebeing that's all.

Speaker 1 (01:58:25):
everybody daffing up give mother gotta come walk up
on you, bro.
Bro, think about now we in thedelay.
So people are leaving the game,or you know, some folks going
back to their cars to thetailgate, going to the field
house, because they, they, they,they, they.
Good, over there they can doshit, like you know.
I mean.
So people just walking by.
I mean, dean was having aconversation with one person who

(01:58:45):
was on the track and we weresitting.
We were sitting right there onthe track but we had, we were
sitting down, so we had ourbacks turned.
Uh, they got in turn around,didn't?
They weren't talking to me.
I wasn't talking to them, yeah,but again, you know that's me
yeah, but I'm gonna tell youthey got them.

Speaker 2 (01:59:01):
Dean, he gonna he going to turn around.
He's going to make fullconversations.
He's going to talk for 15, 20minutes.
Dean's going to be ready tomove around right after he gets
done talking.

Speaker 1 (01:59:12):
But I tell you for a crew and really for the show,
when you talk about building ashow, it's important to have
people like Dean, because if me,you and Rue tried to build a
show, we would only be able togrow it on the internet because,
yeah, we suck in public.

Speaker 2 (01:59:30):
yeah I mean, I'm just not, you don't go in public.
No, I don't do all that.
Like I go in public but I don'tdo all that shit.
Like I don't really likepartying in carterville one, two
, I get in too much trouble inthe move, I get in too much
trouble in the view and it'slike certain times I just feel
like I prefer to just, you know,move and shake, move and shake.

(01:59:52):
And yeah, I don't like speakingto everybody, especially 90% of
the time I'm tuned in when I'mat the game anyway.
So it's like I don't want to bein everybody's face.
I come in and do one thingwatch the game.
I want to come watch the game.
I don't want to do all thattalking, daffing and all this
and that I'm going to speak toeverybody who you know we got

(02:00:13):
love for, but it ain't going tobe no, all day speaking.
I'm going to say what's up.
Hey, y'all enjoy the game.

Speaker 1 (02:00:25):
I me a little spot and go post up and I'm here
until until 10, 10, 15, when thegame you want it.
You want some bullshit?
Well, I really only go out ofcartersville publicly most of
the time to interact with peoplewho watch the show I don't even
do that.
Well, hold on hold on, hold on,let me not say interact.
I go out so that we can be seenin public places, where we're
expected to be, but I don't wantto talk to nobody.

(02:00:49):
I let Dean talk to him and, ifyou acknowledge me, I will speak
, except for one person, andI'll tell you that off, mike,
because somebody didn't know whoI was and I had to address it.

Speaker 2 (02:01:01):
No, you might as well go.

Speaker 1 (02:01:02):
No, I'm not going to say that on Mike.

Speaker 2 (02:01:04):
No, I'm not going gonna say it on mike?

Speaker 1 (02:01:04):
yeah, you might.
No, I'm not gonna say that onmike, it was, you know.
It's actually a couple of.
It's actually a couple ofinstances that that I had
somebody you know stung before.
No, not even I reintroducedmyself to to be funny.

Speaker 2 (02:01:19):
That'd be the problem with me, though, if there's
somebody I know, stung beforewhen they act like they don't
know me.
Oh yeah, bitch, I'm gonna act,all right, yeah I don't like
y'all, well, you know.

Speaker 1 (02:01:29):
You know I'm different.
You know, if I don't stun, youdon't talk to me in public if we
ain't here to go.

Speaker 2 (02:01:32):
Oh no, yeah, I like when you talk to me and still
make me feel nice.
No, don't talk to me, make mefeel special.

Speaker 1 (02:01:38):
Don't talk to me you know that's the, though Aisha
Curry don't be making stuff feelspecial when she's on these
podcasts and get to talkingAisha Curry's stupid.
And I don't even care to talkabout what she said.
I only care about hey, dog, ifyou, my woman, don't go out in
public and embarrass me, it'sone thing if you do something

(02:01:59):
that's embarrassing, but don'tsit your ass down and get to
speaking.
Your, your, your talking yourpoint and making me look less
than because we got to go homeand deal with that.
And I'm telling you as a niggawho's like, said shit on podcast
and then, like my girl or mywife the same person, just
different phase in therelationship right then see

(02:02:21):
something and checks me about,I'm like, hey, bro, don't check
out my content.
Nigga, it's a show, but thatdoesn't change how she feels and
how I made her feel being on ashow.
And then, when she tells methat I have to respect it
because I want to be with her,yeah, you know what I mean.
Like I don't want my girl everchecking me on my content, yeah,
but if my content does make youfeel some type of way and you

(02:02:43):
choose to consume it which Ican't tell you not to I can tell
you you shouldn't if you don'tfeel some type of way about it.
But if you're going to chooseto consume my content, whether
as support or whether to try tocatch me up.
I'm not accusing anybody ofanything.
Well, I didn't have to dealwith that.
So, like I, when me and Cindywere together, I carried myself

(02:03:04):
very differently on a podcast.
Mike, because I respect her andin certain conversations that
we don't have.
Hill, because you're in arelationship, you know what I'm
saying.
Dean's in a relationship, youknow what I mean.
Trev's in a relationship, likewe don't talk about certain shit
up here because out of respectfor our partners or y'all's
partner.
But now bitch, excuse me, me, Iwas saying bitch just like as a

(02:03:26):
word, not like towards her.
But nah, you don't go over hereand talk about how I pretty
much say I didn't think he wasmy type and what.
I was just friends and I reallyI thought I was gonna be the
one, the one you would.
Steph kerry, let me yousomething.
That boy in light skin withgreen eyes and 6'3", he was a
winner before he was good atbasketball.

(02:03:48):
I promise you I'd have been tothe club and the bar with Rue,
you know what I mean.
I'd have been to clubs and barsthat I go to and then I come in
with 6'5" and don't get mewrong, I ain't got no ugly
friends, but I ain't got nopretty friends either, niggas,
just nice looking motherfuckers.
Six Five walk in there, I seehow they look at.
Six Five Now imagine one inchshorter, new Kung Fu Kenny,

(02:04:11):
light skin with green eyes.
Oh, this bitch can shoot from38.

Speaker 2 (02:04:15):
Yeah from anywhere.

Speaker 1 (02:04:19):
Girl, if daddy was in the NBA girl, you was never
going to be the one.
You was always going to be theone.
You're always gonna be the two,or maybe the three or the four
or the five, depending on howmany kids we have and how far
they is in life.
Like bro, like what we doing,like she's not a main character
in any story, but her own.
Now, we're all the maincharacter in our stories, but
Steph Curry's the main characterin a lot of people's stories.
Lebron James is the maincharacter in a lot of niggas'

(02:04:45):
stories.
Michael Jordan is the maincharacter in a lot of niggas'
stories.
Bro, don't nobody care aboutAisha Curry, but Aisha and her
fucking family.
That's the fact, bro, andthere's no knock on that,
because don't nobody care aboutus, but our family.
Yeah that's the fact.
But at the same time, bro, Iwish you would get out here and
say, like damn bro, like I ain'tthink Terrence going to have to
grind and hustle like this.
Do the tattoo fire.
Shit man, nigga.

(02:05:10):
I thought I was going to be thetattoo.
Nigga.
Dj, when have you touched a?
tattoo gun you know what I'msaying.
I mean, like, like Aja Curry,what the fuck did you do that
you thought was going to makeyou pop it?
Enough to be more pop it than apretty good, pretty odd
shooting ass nigga who took overAmerica's heart no way and got
them college at Davis and beenhaving it ever since then Come

(02:05:34):
on bro Nigga, say he the bestpoint guard of all time.
I should carry you Ain't thebest, nothing, but I should
carry it all the time.
And that's no knock on you,cause most of us aren't the best
at something else besides beingourselves.
But then for you to come outwhile Steph is the one to say
well, I thought it was going tobe me, he just wanted to be a

(02:05:54):
high school basketball coach.

Speaker 2 (02:05:57):
Wait, that's all he wanted.

Speaker 1 (02:05:58):
That's all Steph wanted, that's what she said he
wanted to be, and I assumethat's what his goal.
Like when you go to Davidson toplay college basketball, you
don't think you're going to theNBA.

Speaker 2 (02:06:09):
But then again, when you step though, that's
different.
Steph was pulling up 30s as afreshman, back-to-back 30s.
So I don't know.
I don't know.
I feel like he just went toDavidson just because that was
the only person that recruitedhim.

Speaker 1 (02:06:25):
Well, that's, that was the only person to recruit
him.
That's what it was.
He could have transferred justfreshman year, but he stayed
solid at Davidson because againhe had the daddy who knows.
Hey, bro, as long as you keepkilling you'll get to leave.

Speaker 2 (02:06:31):
I'm going to get you in there, don't worry about it.
I'll get you in there, don'tworry about it.
I know a couple folks.

Speaker 1 (02:06:36):
Damn bro, Anything else you want to talk about.

Speaker 2 (02:06:45):
No, I'm about to say shit, I got to let them know.
I'm about to say that's my badabout today.
I'm about to say I had somelittle family issues and
practice and shit going on, butnext week we'll be back better
than ever.
We'll have it lined up.
I'll be back on time.

Speaker 1 (02:06:53):
What are we doing next week?
Are we going to be able to getlittle Terry up here?
I'm going to get everything.
I'm going to get everythinglined up and try and figure some
stuff out, if he's open to thatand I actually want to talk
about it publicly, because Italked about the last show at
the open I think that would begood.

(02:07:13):
But also I think that just thefact that we got one side of it
saying, hey, I don't wantproblems, I want peace, if we
can settle this beef long asthis beef been going on, we're
doing the right thing, no matterwho watches this shit, because

(02:07:35):
it goes bigger than us justhaving a podcast.
It's really like because, man,let me just pop our shit a
little bit, bro, niggas fuckwith us doing this shit.
And it ain't really shit, it'sjust us coming up here talking
about shit.
You know, I mean like, and we,we put topics up here to guide
it, so we ain't just sittinghere with nothing to say.

(02:07:56):
But like we don't really.
I mean the way we spun offtalking about trans shit off of
dwight, howard and mellow, goingto the Hall of Fame like we
took it to have conversations.
But more importantly, we'reabout giving back to our
community in the way that wewant to and not the Dean way.
That's not a shot at Dean.
We just ain't gonna be outthere touching the people like
that.
Like I'm sorry you, kung fu kid, I got things I'd rather do

(02:08:20):
with my time, I got things I'drather do with my time.
But to be able to just, if wecan like, create a place where
people can come up here and talkand get their shit off, and
then after that we get toresolutions, bro, like we doing
God's work and I ain't evenmaking it religious, bro, this
is just real shit.

Speaker 2 (02:08:37):
That's real, though.
That's real, but we can.
I'm gonna definitely try andget him up here next week and
see what I can line up, butbefore I want to do that, then
we're going to see something.

Speaker 1 (02:08:47):
Yeah, we can talk off mic, but I will also say that I
appreciate you for showing upbecause, oh God, I was ready to
cuss everybody out today.

Speaker 2 (02:08:56):
Don't talk off the camera.
No, we're going to talk.

Speaker 1 (02:09:00):
And I will tell you when we talk.
I'll talk first, then I'm goingto give you the floor.
Okay for sure, it is hey, y'all, it's over, because I actually
want to say what the fuck I wantto say.

Speaker 2 (02:09:08):
It was fast, we out.
Baby.
See y'all next week.
Let's get it.
Hold on, hold on.

Speaker 1 (02:09:16):
I want to get this black kid.
Yeah, but I'm not.
We still on air.
Oh, we still laughing.
Yeah, I'm back here trying to,trying to navigate the computer
from back here and you know I Ileft my glass at trouble house
like hey steve and we stillgoing.

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