The Wing War: Lemon Pepper vs Buffalo

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SPEAKER_01 (00:21):
Don't you just love that elevator music to start the
show?

SPEAKER_04 (00:26):
I thought we were at a hootin annie.
I didn't realize it was uhelevator.
Oh, you're talking about thecowdown music.
Oh, you're talking about thisright here.
Yeah, I thought you were doingthe hoot.
I thought you were talking aboutthe hootin annie.

SPEAKER_03 (00:42):
Why I did it through the water.

SPEAKER_04 (00:44):
Where will we ever hear this song at?

SPEAKER_01 (00:46):
At a hootin annie.
Scar You know, I I like little Ilike the upbeat country music.
I'm not gonna lie to you.

SPEAKER_04 (00:57):
See you big friend of the chicken frog.
Cold beer on a Friday night.
A pair of jeans that fit justright.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07):
And the radio.
Yeah, man.
Back in my San Diego days, Iused to go to the country bars a
lot because you know, um theylike rhythm there, and there's
not much.

SPEAKER_04 (01:24):
Well, that's also where the lunch pail guys go.
You know, the guys that wantpaps blue ribbon, the guys that
uh want a ham sandwich with uhlettuce, tomato, and mayo on it.
They like buffalo wings, notlemon pepper hot.

SPEAKER_03 (01:48):
You're funny, you know that.

SPEAKER_04 (01:51):
You know, I won class clown in high school.
I mean, I know that's eons ago,but it's true I did.

SPEAKER_01 (01:57):
Hold on, you won class clown for real?

SPEAKER_04 (01:59):
Uh seriously, it's in the yearbook and everything.
I was I was that was mysurprise.
I won class clown.
Were you were you not offendedby that?
No, I think that you gottaunderstand the reason people
think I'm funny.
It's not because I try to be.
People just think I'm a funnyperson for whatever reason.

SPEAKER_01 (02:17):
Oh, I I I just thought, you know, given where
you went to school and you know,kind of how how, you know, your
demographics, that could havebeen a touchy subject, you know,
back in 2011.

SPEAKER_04 (02:31):
Well, not even.
I just think that a lot ofpeople found me funny because,
like, I don't know.
I'm you know, some people thinkI sound, I've got a unique sound
of voice.
People just think I'm funny.
My eyes and shit, like some ofthe body language I give.
People think it's funny.

SPEAKER_01 (02:50):
You got you got uh you got uh two minutes?
You got a two you got atwo-minute bit, voice?

SPEAKER_04 (02:55):
Uh not for free.

SPEAKER_01 (03:00):
Not for free.
That's what that's what shesaid.

SPEAKER_04 (03:03):
Wow, that's what she always says.
But uh how are we doing this?

SPEAKER_01 (03:08):
Oh man, I'm good.
I'm good, I'm good.
Uh how about yourself?

SPEAKER_04 (03:12):
Hey, we're hanging tight, we got a big day tomorrow
and just been prepping,prepping, and so feeling good.

SPEAKER_01 (03:18):
What if I told you that?
Like if you if when you asked melike uh how are you doing, if I
said like, hey man, I'm honestlyI'm in the abyss right now.
How would that like responsechange on air?

SPEAKER_04 (03:33):
I'd say, hey guys, we're gonna take a break here.
Give us about 10 minutes, we'llbe right back.

SPEAKER_01 (03:39):
Oh, that's a great guy.
If you tell me that, I'llprobably say push through,
buddy.
We'll talk about it after.

SPEAKER_04 (03:48):
I'd say we'll get into that.
Um you know, from there.

SPEAKER_01 (03:53):
But on a serious note, I would assume that we
would have covered that inpre-production or like leading
up to the show.
So if you dropped a bomb on ifyou dropped a bomb on me like
that, pause.
Um whoa.
Oh, sorry guys.

SPEAKER_04 (04:10):
Whoa, maybe that was appropriate.

SPEAKER_01 (04:12):
Yeah, but uh face down or face up rather.
Oh man, don't remind me aboutface down.
Look, I'm just saying, you know.
Calling back to pre-production,but nah, uh yeah, nah, like I
because we talk throughout theweek and have pre-production.
If if like you dropped a bomb onme like that during the show, I

(04:34):
would think you were likejoking.

SPEAKER_04 (04:38):
I think that uh you wouldn't have done it.
So it's it's it's it's it's it'spointless at this point.

SPEAKER_01 (04:45):
Like hey man, I uh you're right.
But you know it's not pointless.

SPEAKER_04 (04:54):
What's that?

SPEAKER_01 (04:55):
This throwback we got planned for uh Sunday night
or Monday night, excuse me.

SPEAKER_04 (05:00):
Whoa, you know, but that fits there too, this
throwback, huh?

SPEAKER_03 (05:07):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (05:09):
I mean, I'm sure uh that could be applicable to some
people who go to the gamesbecause the NFL has a um
inviting atmosphere to people ofall backgrounds, creeds,
denominations, so on and soforth.
All are welcome to watchfootball.

SPEAKER_04 (05:25):
See the wham in a circle.
Could be that type of throwbacktoo, you know.

SPEAKER_01 (05:31):
You know, I'm looking forward to uh moving
back to the city.
I think I'm gonna be like a aheavy strip club guy.

SPEAKER_04 (05:41):
But why?
Why would you want to be?

SPEAKER_01 (05:43):
I like the environment.

SPEAKER_04 (05:46):
Just women shaking their ass, huh?
Yeah.
Smelling like smoke, old, old,old chicken wing grease fries,
some some some extra crispylemon pepper steppers.
Yeah.

unknown (05:59):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (05:59):
I'm like super creative in that environment.

SPEAKER_04 (06:01):
30$30 shots.

SPEAKER_01 (06:04):
Well, see, that's the thing.
I'm not gonna be in there justgetting hammered.
And part of me being a regularis I'm gonna work, I'm gonna
work the bartender.
I'm not gonna be a big spender,so I'm not gonna get a lot of
attention from the ladies, whichis fine.
It's just that environment, man.
The music, the atmosphere, theambiance.

SPEAKER_04 (06:28):
The women.
I mean, let's just call it whatit is.
If the women weren't there andeverything else remained the
same, you wouldn't go.
Well, you wouldn't the women arewhat makes that environment that
environment.
That's why it's it's it'sbackground noise, right?
Ultimately, that you can, if youwant to, you can like it's like

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you talked about elevator music.
Imagine some elevator musicsitting, and then you, but
you're in the elevator andyou're like, damn, this is kind
of busting.
Like, turn it up.
Turning it up is you going overto them, yeah, but it's
background noise.

SPEAKER_01 (07:02):
Yeah, absolutely.
It's mainly gonna be me justsitting there chilling on my
phone, texting, looking atscores, putting shit in my
notes, and developing thoughtsand ideas.

SPEAKER_04 (07:17):
I think Dave Chappelle said he did something
similar to that at one point.
He said he went there in one ofthe specials.
I don't remember if he was it'sprobably a joke, but like he
said something about reading abook or some shit.
Uh he literally he referenced itwas Magic City specifically that
he talked about.

SPEAKER_01 (07:36):
Well, see, I don't plan on being a magic guy, you
know.
We're gonna find us a lowerlower strip club where you're
down to the new follies.
I I doubt it.
Why not?
Yeah, I'm probably not gonnalive on that side of town.
You gonna go to Pinups?
Look here, man.

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We're gonna find a place that'sclose, and we're gonna make
friends there, and and it'sgonna be a vibe.
And you're gonna come hang outwith me.
You're gonna come hang out withme there sometimes, and you're
gonna be like, why are we here?
It's just like, why not?

SPEAKER_04 (08:09):
Well, you know that the people I know are at magic.
Yeah, no, well, and and not justthe stripper.
I'm saying I know the security.
I know I thought me and him, wefollow each other on this, you
know.
I know the security dude too.
So, like, well, I I was thinkingabout it.
Shout out to Super if he'swatching.

SPEAKER_01 (08:29):
I wasn't talking about any women, honestly.
I was I was just talking about,you know, with you living so
close.
I imagine you made somerelationships there uh from the
times that you decided to gothere because I know you and you
make friends everywhere you go.

SPEAKER_04 (08:44):
Absolutely.
That's uh that's the name of thegame.

SPEAKER_01 (08:48):
Should we talk about the Falcons finally?

SPEAKER_04 (08:50):
I mean, yeah, I don't see why not.
I don't see why not.
But the I know it started offbecause we were talking about
the throwback unis, whichplease, uh Arthur Blank, Rich
McKay, whoever actually is incontrol.
Can we and actually really it'sRich.
I don't know if Rich hasanything to do with how the NFL
works his uniform policies.
I know he's caught competitiontoo many, but I don't know if

(09:11):
that has anything to do withcompetition.
But can we please just makethese permanent?
I mean, yeah, they should beholding our holding holding
because we have in it.
Yeah, and then since now we cando two helmets, make the road
jersey helmet, the black versionof that red helmet, like the the

(09:34):
90s version of the Falcons, makethat that with the white, and
then let's get the silverbritches back and we're good to
go.
Yeah, yeah, just just bring backthe the the dirty bird uniforms.
Sounds, I mean, it sounds prettyeasy to me.
Cause then because then they canpull out the Michael Vick

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starting Matt Ryan ending erajerseys as a throwback in five
years, where they wear the allblack that Vic wore, or we never
have had it all red, but youcould wear the all black or
something, right?
And whip that helmet in it'slike okay, this is refreshing
again because it's been aminute, the nostalgia's kicking
in.

SPEAKER_01 (10:13):
That all black from the Vic era was so nice, and I
really hate it in the Matt Ryanera.
We became a uh a red top, whitebottom team.

SPEAKER_05 (10:22):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (10:23):
I like I like the red and the white, don't get me
wrong, but you know, coming intothat jersey pack, the red was
the alternate, you know what Imean?

SPEAKER_04 (10:31):
Yeah, it was.
They they wore the black,obviously, uh with the black and
then um white on white.

SPEAKER_01 (10:39):
I had the red Vic 7 back in the day.

SPEAKER_04 (10:42):
Same.
That was that was the jersey.
That was the jersey everybody,the reebok, yeah, with the NFL
equipment right there.
Yeah, yeah, no, the V-neck,yeah.
Yeah, man.
That was a that was a time.
It was a time, and and andthat's why anyone that hears me
ever talk about the Falcon.
I don't want them to think Ididn't like Michael Vick.
I did.
I love Michael Vick.
Um, I'm happy, I'm super happyfor him now, more than anything.

(11:06):
But how many people think youdon't like Michael Vick though?
Because I refuse to to kiss thering and say he was the best
quarterback or Falcon ever whenhe wasn't, he's neither.
I mean, it's just the truth.
It doesn't mean I didn't likehim.

SPEAKER_01 (11:21):
So so he wouldn't be.
Would you put him on your uh uhyour Falcons Mount Rushmore?

SPEAKER_04 (11:28):
If we're talking everything and not just playing,
yes.
But if we're talking strictlyplaying, no, he wouldn't be on
it.
He's not one of the four bestperforming Falcons of all time.
He's one of the four mostpopular, and I think what he
brought to the franchise, nobodyelse has brought to it.
So nah, Matt Ryan sold out too.

(11:52):
We we were winning games, youknow what I mean?
That's how you sell outnormally.
That's how you should be sellingout.

SPEAKER_01 (11:57):
Well, Michael Vic just sold out because he showed
up.

SPEAKER_04 (12:02):
Good for him.
He's a very popular player atthe time.
I mean, I don't, you know,again, this is what I'm saying.
I don't have an issue with Vic.
I think I have an issue with Vicfandom.
Vic fandom is what the issue is.
It's it's an overrated take on aguy that people didn't really
watch.
They just knew he was on theteam, he's on the video game,

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he's in TI's music videos.
Like, like culturally, he's aphenomenon.
And you know, I understand that.
That's why for my Falcons, MountRushmore, he's not on it if
we're talking strictly ball.
If we're talking everythingconsidered, he's on it.
But if we're talking strictlyball, he wouldn't be on mine.

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So you're I can name fourfalcons better than him.

SPEAKER_01 (12:48):
So your issue is Michael Vick fans, not Michael
Vick.

SPEAKER_04 (12:52):
Correct.

SPEAKER_01 (12:54):
Okay.

SPEAKER_04 (12:55):
Sounds kind of backwards considering he was the
one fighting the dogs, but Ihave to we have to give Michael
Vick credit.
If he doesn't fight dogs, MattRyan's never a Falcon.
He isn't.
He's probably in Miami,potentially to at least have
taken them to the Super Bowl,he'd be considered the second
greatest dolphin, certainlyquarterback ever.

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Or he could even be the best.
Who knows?
He could have maybe won downthere.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (13:20):
Like so you're thankful that Michael Vick
fought dogs, so we end upgetting the greatest Falcons
quarterback ever.
That's what you're telling me.

SPEAKER_04 (13:31):
I'm saying, have you ever heard the story of the
Chinese farmer?

SPEAKER_01 (13:36):
I've not.
Please enlighten me.

SPEAKER_04 (13:38):
Well, Chinese farmer goes to a village boy and he
says, you know, I need this,that, and the third for this,
but maybe not.
Then that boy didn't takewhatever it was.
I'm also just summarizing this,guys.
I don't know it word for word.

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But essentially, the point ofthe story is that it's a
butterfly effect of events.
At the end of the day, if thatdoesn't happen, more than likely
he's not a Falcon.
So do am I happy he fought dogs?
Absolutely not.
We had just paid him a 10-year,like$15 million contract.
Uh, or maybe it was$150,actually.

(14:21):
He was getting like$15 a year,which was at the time was high.
Right?
Like 10 years, too.
Yeah, yeah.
So we were tied to him, and I'msure that voided the entire
contract, but he lied to ArthurBlank, which you know, he
remember he was at the draftthat year, and they asked him
about it, he lied about it.
And like, I mean, I get it.
Is he gonna get on ESPN and say,yeah, we're fighting dogs over

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there?
What's it to you?
Like, he's not gonna say that.
And so, like, I get it, but Iwould love to I'm not gonna talk
about that.
If you if ESPN would like, theycan reach out to my attorneys,
but I'm here to talk football.
If you guys want to talkfootball, we'll talk football.
Don't have me on then.

SPEAKER_01 (15:03):
Like, so you're mad at Vic for not coming clean off
the hey man, let's get to theFalcons.

SPEAKER_04 (15:10):
I'm not about to sit here and get into a Michael Vick
rabbit hole.
Uh, shout out to Michael Vick.
I hope I'm not sure how wellNorfolk State's doing, but shout
out to him for going back homeand trying to do something in
his community.

SPEAKER_01 (15:27):
Yeah, shout out to Michael Vick, man.
Shout out to Michael Vick.
Uh so parlay Pete, man.
We got the Bills coming intotown uh uh for Monday night
football, Monday nights inAtlanta.
Uh, you know what Falcons do.
We rise up, we got the throwbackunits, we got the Bills coming
off of a tough loss to thePatriots on a last second drive

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by Drake May.
And we got the Falcons comingoff of a bye and a uh solid win
versus Washington, uh, wholooked freaking amazing Sunday
against uh Jim Harbaugh and theboys.
Uh so what are your thoughts onthe Bills coming into town?

SPEAKER_04 (16:05):
Um, you know, these are always special.
It's been eight years since thelast time we played them.
I was at the last time we playedthem.
That was the 2017 season.
And um I think when we lost tothem, we dropped a four and
four, and this was halfwaythrough.
It was at the mid-boy point ofthe season.
Tyrod Taylor was thequarterback.

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This was actually the year theBills first made the playoffs.
I want to say it was maybeMcDermott's first year, or maybe
Rex was still there.
I don't remember.
But Tyrod Taylor was thequarterback, and Bill's mafia
showed up and showed out, man.
They had even then, and this wasagain before they had made the
playoffs.
Like, you know, the Bills hadn'tbeen to the playoffs at that
time since like 01.

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It's been a very long time.
And um, yeah, it was it was itwas a fun and amazing game, and
I'm hoping for the same thing tocome this Sunday, uh, this
Monday.
And um yeah, we got ourselves ahandful coming in with Josh
Allen.
Certainly, um, that is gonna bethe biggest challenge for the
team.
But as far as offensivelyagainst that defense, turn them

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loose.
I mean, we better use Bijan andTyler.
No Ed Oliver, I'd run itstraight up the gut.
That secondary, if Stefan Diggs,and this is no shot at Stephon
Diggs.
We all know Stephon Diggs is aformer all-pro, former Pro Bowl
player.
I'm sure he's still a goodplayer, but at the end of the
day, Drake London should berunning circles in that in that

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secondary as well.
And then if we have a healthymoon, another guy that should be
able to get loose.
Like, I don't understand why weshouldn't put up 40 points on
this defense.
And maybe I'm I'm I'm gettingtongue-in-cheek by saying 40,
but we should score a lot morepoints than them.
So you're saying we're we'rebetter than them, is what you're
telling me.

SPEAKER_01 (17:52):
I think that in this spot, yes.
So you wouldn't say that in uhJanuary in Orchard Park.

SPEAKER_04 (18:04):
No.
I don't I I mean, well, if ifthings remain where they are
now, this is a team thatcurrently is ranked number one
in total defense, the Falcons,that is.
Um, and we can run the ball.
So you never know.
That that type of game, that isthat environment is where you
need those two things.

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If you got a top defense and youcan run the ball, you'll win
football games.

SPEAKER_01 (18:30):
Hey, and Michael Penix played in Indiana and in
uh Washington.

SPEAKER_04 (18:34):
Yeah, and these aren't those aren't warm weather
places.

SPEAKER_01 (18:37):
So I am skeptical going in.
We got the Bills off of a loss,a tough loss, a game where they
beat themselves just by turningthe ball over.

SPEAKER_04 (18:52):
It's like four turnovers in the first like
seven minutes of that game.

SPEAKER_01 (18:55):
Yeah, it yeah.
Then you just have my overallfear factor anytime the Falcons
play against star quarterbacks.
Because we don't have a starquarterback, it's scary.
Especially running quarterbacks.
Yeah, we we like to letquarterbacks run, especially the

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ones like Josh Allen, who he'snot here to just run the ball,
but he can run to pass, uh butthen actually run uh for 30
yards.
And uh we gotta tackle we gottagang tackle him, we can't let
him get ahead of steam, we can'tlet him get 101s, you know.

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If if if uh if we got one endhitting him, we need a backer
right behind him, you know, toclean him up.
You know, uh it should be a gameif we have sacks.
That it's a lot of half sacksgoing around, you know.

SPEAKER_05 (19:49):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (19:50):
Yeah.
You know, the other thing.

SPEAKER_04 (19:54):
I was gonna say the other thing that we struggle
with that's gonna be a part ofthis game that I do kind of feel
for.
Now, again, we have the numberone total ranked defense, and
this is not obviously based ontotal numbers, since we've only
played four games and a lot ofteams that play five.
This is on a per game average.
We are number one.
We also are number one in passdefense, and we do get A.J.
Terrell back.
But what concerns the hell outof me is the idea of Dalton

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Kincaid running a seam up themiddle with that big 6'6 frame
of his and being able to winjump balls against an Xavier
Watt, who has played fantasticto win a jump ball against the
Jesse Bates All Pro.
That's what concerns me when itcomes to a team like the Bills
because they do have bigphysical guys up there.

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And James Cook, this will besomewhat, I mean, I know he's
not from here, but being a dog,it's a little bit of a
homecoming for him, too.
And he bef prior to thisweekend's game with the Bills
game, he didn't, I mean thePatriots game, he didn't do too
much, but he led the NFL inrushing yards coming into that
game.
So they're able to run the ball.
Um, and again, they've got bigphysical guys.

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Keon Coleman's 6'4.
You know what I mean?
I mean, Shakir's a smaller dude,but they got a lot of big dudes.
Uh Dawson Knox, another youknow, backup title.
Those are the these are thegames where you look up and you
see an Austin Seferian Jenkinslike type performance, and that
does concern you, especiallycoming off that loss because
they are pissed.
And teams like the Bills who win13-12 games a year, they don't

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typically lose back-to-backgames.

SPEAKER_01 (21:23):
No, they don't.
And that that's what scares thehell out of me.
They're more prepared forprimetime Monday night football
than we are, uh, although we dohave the B team.

SPEAKER_04 (21:37):
Well, let's check this out, though.
You know the Falcons' recordsince 2015 on Monday night
football?
What, one and one?
7-1.
Shit.
We're seven and one.
They said uh, and it began withthe season opener in 2015 where
DQ, where we beat the Eagles.

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Um, we played them on theopening Monday night that year,
which I don't know why.
Why do we always typically getseason opening matchups with the
Eagles?
Uh and they're always nightgames.

SPEAKER_02 (22:06):
I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 (22:07):
Um it just, I don't know.
It's just it's it's always atthe beginning, very beginning of
the season, except that one timewhere we did the fact check,
Michael Vick's first gamereturning as a player, not as
the starter.
That game was on a Sunday.
But outside of that, for themost part, our games are always
on prime time and they're alwaysthe first or second week of the

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season.

SPEAKER_01 (22:28):
A couple years ago, uh, since I've had tickets, we
played the Eagles week one uh atone o'clock.
That's back when Arthur used tolike open up the roof to start
the year.
Which I hope he opens it upMonday night.

SPEAKER_04 (22:46):
Uh yeah, it should be plenty of perfect weather,
and it just looked really coolon TV.

SPEAKER_01 (22:52):
Shout out to never mind, that was gonna be an
asshole comment to make.

SPEAKER_04 (22:58):
Why do you want to be a dick about stuff, we I'm
not.

SPEAKER_01 (23:01):
That's why I didn't say it.
I I stopped myself.

SPEAKER_02 (23:07):
But uh anything else on the Falcons?

SPEAKER_04 (23:10):
Uh, in terms of, I mean, we had a bye week, so
nothing to recap.
We can't shit on anybody, wecan't praise anyone.
It's kind of just let's wait andsee.
Let's see.
Last year, coming out of thebye, if you remember, we played
the Chargers and the team lookedflat as shit.
Um, Kirk Cousins looked hurt,and we got dominated in what was
a must-win game.
Because if we had lost thatgame, which we did, that would

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have been it was three in a row,or maybe that was the fourth one
in a row.
Because we went into the byewe'd go on a losing streak, and
they didn't look like they werevery prepared.

SPEAKER_01 (23:42):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (23:43):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (23:44):
I mean, but since we're talking about the uh
Bills, anyways, you want to talkabout that uh Sunday night
football game?
Uh Drake May making one of thebest plays that we've seen in a
while.
Uh to, I mean, my God, he had aguy's hand in his breastplate
and he still got the pass off.
Uh, but yeah, it was a hell of agame early, but it was a hell of

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a football game.
And uh, real quick, credits toMike Vrabel, which is why I
personally wanted him to be theFalcons coach, because that
looked like a Mike Vrabel game.
Like win, lose, or draw, theBills would have had to come and
earn their paycheck that day,and they earned their paycheck
and still lost.

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Like it that even like some ofthose late hits, you just know
that's Vrabel talking aboutplayed through the echo of the
whistle.
Yeah, like just be physical.
I'd rather you mess up being tooaggressive than mess up being
not aggressive enough.
And he was able to put hisimprint on that game, shrink the
game, and uh ultimately ek uhink out a win.

SPEAKER_04 (24:51):
Yeah, they they looked uh a lot better than I
expected.
Obviously, anyone that followsthe picks will see, which by the
way, we went four and two.
But uh anyone that sees thepicks knows that I took Buffalo
on the hook at seven and a half,and you know, they lost straight
up.
Um we did get the dog right withthe Broncos, which we'll get to
that game next.
But um, yeah, you know, again,it looked like a Mike Brable

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coach football team, and itlooked like the Bills were uh
more about their uniforms thanthey were about their play.
It was sloppy football, theycouldn't run the ball.
Um Dalton Kincaid had it had ahell of a game, but like outside
of that, he didn't really getproduction from anyone else.
And Josh Allen had a prettycostly pick there down in the
red zone.
Um, and yeah, the defensecouldn't get off the field and

(25:37):
get a stop when they needed to.

SPEAKER_02 (25:39):
Are you trying to sell a tight end?

SPEAKER_04 (25:42):
I'm listening.

SPEAKER_01 (25:44):
Okay, we can just talk after.
I just I I need to buy a tightend badly.
Okay.
Um, but no, that was that was uhI mean it was just a good game,
and you know what I loved aboutMike Rabel.

SPEAKER_04 (26:00):
What's that?

SPEAKER_01 (26:01):
You can just see that big fucking chaw on his lip
during the game.
Yeah, it's just protruding, andthen when he smiles, you just
see it just itching out on histeeth, and you go, that's a
football coach right there.

SPEAKER_04 (26:17):
Yeah, big time ball coach.
Um, a guy that likes to get W's.
A guy that does get W's, right?

SPEAKER_01 (26:24):
I mean, unlike Herb in the NFL?

SPEAKER_04 (26:28):
Herb didn't get W's in the NFL, Lee.
What are we talking about?

SPEAKER_01 (26:31):
I said unlike herb in the NFL.
Oh, unlike herb.

SPEAKER_04 (26:34):
Okay.
I miss her.

SPEAKER_01 (26:36):
Yeah, unlike Bill in college, you know, Chapel Bill,
who we'll get to later.

SPEAKER_04 (26:39):
Well, yeah.
Something like that.
Yeah, Brabel cut from adifferent cloth.
Um uh although he technicallywould be considered the
Belichick tree.
No, um, maybe old Bill.
That ain't that ain't new Bill.

SPEAKER_01 (26:55):
And so um that was just a good football game.
Like Josh Allen, the greatplayer, but just watching the
Patriots, and and golly, theyhad some dumb penalties, but
just watching them playfootball, and it just looked
like it's just physicalfootball.
Prayers to Antonio Gibson whogot lost for the season in that

(27:18):
game.

SPEAKER_04 (27:19):
Yeah, yeah.
Oof, yeah, tough.
Uh, Antonio Gibson, Georgia boy,too, by the way.
He went to the same high schoolas Mr.
Turner.

SPEAKER_01 (27:27):
Yeah.
Shout out to the sister, too.
Cool peoples.

SPEAKER_04 (27:30):
Yeah, yeah.
But as I had mentioned before,we did get the Broncos Eagles
pick right, and I called it dogof the week Broncos.
Um, yeah, I didn't like thematchup for the Eagles based on
everything that coming into theseason we are coming out of
those first four games that wesaw.
They got out gained in everygame.
The game prior to that, they hadno passes completed in the

(27:53):
second half.
And then this week, it seemedlike they kind of
overcompensated for it.
They were up two touchdowns, youknow, at one point in the game,
and they blow it.
And if I'm not mistaken, thatwas headed into the fourth
quarter and they blow the game.
So when you look at this type ofstuff, it you break it down from
what's going on internally,which with them, that stuff is
kind of public.
They they're making it public.

(28:15):
You see that, and then you seewhat you do see on the football
field in a couple of last secondwins, you know, should have lost
the Dallas game if CeeDee Lambcould catch, should have lost
the Rams game if uh big JordanDavis didn't do what Jordan
Davis does at Georgia, but doingit for the Eagles.
Could have lost the game to theEagles, too.
I mean, to the Chiefs as well.
Realistically, if Travis Kelseydoesn't, you know, pop the ball

(28:37):
up and it turns into a pick,they could have possibly lost
that game.
So it's not that the and andSaquon Barkley has not been
Saquon Barkley this season,which nobody talks about that.
We talk about Derrick Henry andhis struggles.
Nobody's talking about the ideathat Saquon hasn't really gotten
off yet.

SPEAKER_01 (28:53):
Well, I think there's a few things.
Uh, and to start with Saquon notbeing Saquon, uh what people are
saying is that offensive lineisn't that offensive line.
Uh Lane Johnson's a year older.
He's dealing with some stuff.
Uh Dickerson's not Dickerson'snot healthy.
Uh they had to replace uh umwell they got a brand new right,

(29:16):
they got a brand new uh righttackle.

SPEAKER_04 (29:18):
They still got Jordan Malotta, though, right?

SPEAKER_01 (29:21):
Yeah, you still got my lotta over there.
So so point being is that theoffensive line is an offensive
lining, and that's what madethem so great, is that they were
a team driven by their offensiveline.
Yes, they're gonna be a few.
I was getting there.
Okay, my bad.
Then we got a brand newcoordinator who's learning how

(29:44):
to play call because he hasn'tplayed call before, he hasn't
coordinated, and he also didn'thave the experience.
I I I was listening to umDominic Foxworth and Jeff
Saturday talk about this on uhon Foxworth's pod today.
And, you know.
They they talked about when uhuh what's my man's name?
Uh uh Kellen Moore was there.

(30:08):
You know, he can go into the tothe meeting room and say, Hey, I
was brought here to fix y'all'soffense.
Let me cook.
Like I got a track record ofwhat I did in Dallas to let
people know, hey, hey, hey,Kellen Moore can call plays.
He's had successful offenses,right?
But the new coordinator, whatcredibility does he have?

(30:31):
What has he done?
And then you have Nick Siriani,a Super Bowl winning coach,
Jalen Hurts, a Super Bowlwinning quarterback, Saquon
Barkley, a damn near recordsetting Hall of Fame track
running back, you know, AJBrown, some would say a top five
receiver in the league, and thenDevontae, and then you have
Devontae Smith, who we don'teven know where he kind of ranks

(30:52):
in the league because he's not anumber one, but he's good enough
to be a number one.
He's just on a team with AJBrown.
So he's a$30 million receiver.
Yeah, and he's a Heisman trophywinner, you know.
Uh like he and when we we seethe plays, he's him, right?
So you have all of these playerswho have more clout than the
offensive coordinator.

(31:15):
And I think that could be a partof the problem.
And one last thing I took awayfrom their podcast and and the
breakdown Foxworth talked aboutthem having a more uh a more uh
opportunistic offense in in thisin this Denver game.

(31:35):
And he said, hey, they may losesome games that they could win
playing this way, but it couldset them up uh in the long term
to be a better team.
Because it's they can't play theway that they played last year,
so now it's playing through, didit again.
It's it's playing in this stylethroughout the season to work

(31:59):
the Kinks out so they'll beready for the playoffs.

SPEAKER_04 (32:03):
And and look, and that very well could be because
at the end of the day, isn't itabout playing your best ball
later on in the season?
And that's what they did lastyear.
They started two and two, andeverything kind of turned
around.
Um, you know, after they beatthe Saints in week four.
Yeah, that was week four.

(32:23):
They were one and two headedinto New Orleans.
And remember, New Orleans wastwo and one.
They had they were hot thosefirst two weeks.
Then we beat them, we beat themon a game one field goal, and
that was a battle.
Like Zequan had a big game, andthat was the breakout.
They didn't lose again.
Sans the game where they had thebackups in.
You know, they lost one ofthose, but they basically didn't
lose again.

(32:44):
So, you know, I I think it's nottime to panic or anything for
Philly.
And let's give Denver credit,too.
That's probably the best defensein the NFL.
Um, and we know that Sean Paytonis, as we've seen here, is a
master play caller.
Uh, yeah, we I mean we mighthate him, you know, him doing
that to Devontae Freeman.
I think, you know, that one yearthat was Justice's fantasy team

(33:06):
name.
It was Sean Payton yellingchoke.
Um he did that the year afterthe Super Bowl, obviously.
And it's just like, fuck you.
Um, but um, yeah, so let's giveDenver credit to for being a
solid football team.
I mean, they're three and twofor a reason, they do a lot of
things well and they don't beatthemselves.
So uh I guess they well, theykind of did against the Colts,

(33:30):
but uh yeah, but that was a boldman.

SPEAKER_01 (33:35):
Yeah, uh shout out to Sean Payton, man.
He's a great coach and I neverthought I'd hear you say that.
I I wouldn't hate him if he wastrash.
Yeah, but I mean I don't have Idon't have thoughts on Jim
Hazlitt.
I I didn't have thoughts on Rauntil he became our coach.

(33:58):
Yeah, I I don't have thoughts onuh my god, who else can I talk
about?
Uh what's my man's name?
Uh John Fox and I mean and Iknow he got Carolina to a Super
Bowl, but like nobody caresabout John Fox or uh uh what's
my man's name?
Riverboat Ron?
Ron Rivera?
Yeah, those people.

(34:18):
Yeah, Dave Canales.
Yeah, I mean, well, Dave Canalesis what, two and one against the
Falcons?
Now he's starting to put fear inmy heart.

SPEAKER_04 (34:28):
He didn't put fear in my heart.
At the end of the day, BryceYoung will probably be benched
by the time we get to he's notgonna be benched.
They actually uh, I mean, theyhad that comeback win against
the Dolphins this week.
You know, and then and this isthe worst part about it.
We're on bye week.
We look up, we're like, okay,Dolphins, Panthers.
We're like, okay, Seattle,Tampa, which was game of the

(34:50):
week, by the way.
Um, and then Saints, Giants, andwe're like, everybody's gonna
lose them.
Somebody's gonna lose.
Right.
There's gonna be at least twoteams that lose here, I would
think.
None of them were favored exceptthe the Saints.
So uh it felt like a loss thatweek because everybody gained
ground on us.

(35:10):
Carolina's got as many wins asus, New Orleans is a game and a
half.
I mean, game and a half, but youknow what I'm saying?
They're still there.
And then uh Tampa padded theirlead with a comeback victory
against a tough place to play,and they were underman, no Bucky
Irving.
So it it it was it was toughfrom that standpoint for us this

(35:31):
week because all three teams inthe division won.
But let's talk about that Tampagame real quick.
Baker's got to be the front.
I know he's not in Vegas, but tome and my eyes, if you got some
money, I I'd pepper a little biton Baker to win MVP at this
point.

SPEAKER_01 (35:45):
He's getting he he has comeback victories, he has
the stats, he he has thetouchdowns, he he's not
throwing.
It's fun to watch.
It's fun to watch.
There we go.
He checks all the boxes.
Yeah, and then he has a MekkaBuka emerging as offensive
rookie of the year.

SPEAKER_04 (36:00):
You can go ahead and just and and and and potentially
second team all pro.

SPEAKER_01 (36:06):
I I mean you know, there are some people in this
world who bought into the TampaBay offense this year.

SPEAKER_04 (36:12):
Yeah, well, we know.

SPEAKER_01 (36:21):
Yeah, and there's some people in the world who
just believe that hey, Tampa'sgood.
They are good, they made theplayoffs.
They won't be players overthere.
Yeah, if a Mecca Abuka is who wesay he is, they're gonna be
really fucking good.
And our week one loss to Tampa,like the the the Carolina game

(36:46):
really screwed us.
And I know and I'm gonna getback to this game because that
week one loss to Tampa, althoughit was at home, was not a bad
loss.
I'm like, we lost a close gameto a really good team.
Where we kind of beat ourselves.

SPEAKER_04 (37:01):
We had the lead in the last two minutes, we gave up
the lead, had a chance to tieit, didn't, and people lost
their jobs because of it.
Put pressure on people to losetheir jobs before the commanders
game, ultimately.

SPEAKER_01 (37:12):
And but then we get 30, but we get 30 piece by
fucking Carolina, and soblanked.
So so you think of us, you thinkof that's who we are in a team
that beat, excuse me, uh, theVikings without a competent
quarterback.

SPEAKER_04 (37:28):
A three-and-two Vikings team, though.

SPEAKER_01 (37:31):
Yes, and then uh Washington without Jaden
Daniels.
It's like blah blah blah.
But we're closer to Tampa thanwe are to Carolina, believe it
or not.

SPEAKER_04 (37:40):
Yeah, and and this Monday.

SPEAKER_01 (37:43):
I sound like Cal Hurts saying that the score of
the game doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_04 (37:46):
It does, but at the end of the day, and this Monday
we get to prove that though.
They can sell it to anyone thatRich look, Rich Eisen had us
after the Vikings game in histop 10.
You know, it'd been a minute,man, since I've heard the
Falcons on anyone's list foranything.
So like they have a chance tocatapult back into it.
And the sucky part is if we win,unless Bijan has some video game

(38:10):
type game, the talk is gonna bewhat's wrong with the Bills, not
a man, the Falcons might bepretty fucking good.
It's gonna be a what's wrongwith the Bills, because that's
just the way the narrative isgonna be because it's Josh
Allen.

SPEAKER_01 (38:22):
And I want it I want us to beat them by a solid 10.

unknown (38:28):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (38:28):
And I don't want, and I and I want I and I want to
get like I want to force punts.
You know, I don't want like themto miss field goals or Josh to
turn the ball over, fumble.
I don't I don't want that.
I want us to play good defenseand beat them, make big plays,
and then also sustain drives,you know, just look like the
better team.

(38:49):
I don't want, even if they'regreat turnovers, I don't want
two strip sacks and a pick.
Bill's gonna be good.
What's wrong with Josh Allen?

SPEAKER_04 (38:58):
Yeah, Bill's Mafia has a great fan base.
They're great fans, by the way.
Um, I got to experience it whenI went to niggas.
Yeah, I'm just saying, I got theexperience it when I went to
Orchard Park four years ago fora game.
Got to do a keg stand with them.
As a matter of fact, had acouple of Bills fans uh that
have actually reached out to me.
My cousin uh is a Bills fan andshe travels for the games.

(39:21):
Got a link up with her beforethe game.
Um and then also our uh formerbanker, she reached out to me.
She's from there, they're bothfrom up there.
That's why they're fans.
But which is kind of my point.
Can we please make this an 80-20game Atlanta?
Can we please like not let themcome into the house and like
take over?
That still is West New York.

(39:43):
You know what I'm saying?
That ain't that ain't, but I'mjust saying it's not a major
city, so it ain't a lot ofpeople from Buffalo that just
live in Atlanta.
And even though Bills might beas strong, I'm sure there's a
Buffalo Bills bar in Atlantasomewhere.
But like there was one in SanDiego.
Yeah, so I'm sure that like theyhave that type of a fan base,
but the reality of it is anyone,if it's a ton of people wearing

(40:06):
Bill's stuff, they probably flewdown.
And if they flew down, and yousold, that means they so you
sold your tickets.
That's what that says to me.
And so, and I get it.
Look, I wouldn't couldn't resista payday either.
I'd love to get a couple grandfor some tickets, you know?
That'd be great.
But like at the same time, let'snot let's not have this thing

(40:26):
look this way.
On Monday night, it should bewe're wearing the red, it should
be a red out, a blackout.
It it should be it should showthat we're there.
New England and Buffalo playevery year, and it was a white
out for their game.
It didn't mean nothing, but likestill, you didn't see I didn't
see barely any Patriots fans atthat game.

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And that's a division rivalthat's not too far from Boston.

SPEAKER_02 (40:50):
So hey, you know what we didn't talk about?

SPEAKER_04 (40:56):
What's that?

SPEAKER_01 (40:59):
The pride and joy of exit 290, excuse me, exit 288.

SPEAKER_04 (41:06):
Oh, the Monday night miracle?

SPEAKER_01 (41:09):
Yeah, Mr.
301-20 himself.
Oh coach of the year.
Mr.
If at first you don't succeed,you get back up and try it
again.

SPEAKER_04 (41:23):
Coach, coach, coach of the year too far for five
weeks.

SPEAKER_01 (41:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Most definitely M Cohen, coachof the year.
Uh, shout out to the the Jagsfor uh proving to us what we
what we thought about the Chiefsuh two years ago and what they
showed us last year, uh, but itdidn't play out, but kind of
what Philly's going throughright now, and now we're seeing
it this year.

SPEAKER_04 (41:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We called this a minute ago.
Um, but we were wrong.
They won the Super Bowl thatyear, then they went back the
next year.
But look, god damn it, we knewit was coming.

SPEAKER_01 (42:00):
We knew it was coming.
But but think about it.
The year they won a Super Bowl,they weren't covering.
It was the it was the defensethat year.
Yeah, that was the strength ofthe team.
Then last year, they werewinning all these one-score
games.
50.

SPEAKER_04 (42:16):
Because other teams were fucking themselves, though.
The Bengals, Pat P.I.
Uh our game, we had two fourthdown chances in the goal on in
the red zone, and we couldn'tconvert them.
Which I mean, shout out to theirdefense, I guess.
But yeah, that boy fromCartersville.

SPEAKER_01 (42:31):
But but like we we we we saw it, we saw it coming,
and they were still able toovercome it.
So, like, when we ourprediction, our our conclusion
may have been wrong, our finalconclusion or our hypothesis was
wrong.
But what we were trying to speaktowards based on the evidence

(42:53):
that we were seeing is what weare finally seeing now.
We just predicted it before itstarted to cave in, is all I'm
saying.
No, absolutely.
And look, Patrick Mahomesthrowing that pick fix to Devin
Lloyd, that doesn't happen.

SPEAKER_04 (43:11):
No, not on not on the one-yard line, not uh him
running it back because he wasmoving slow as shit.
And I'm like, man, where's ZayWorthy?
Where's Hollywood Brown?
Why is nobody catching up to himto bring him down?
But um, you know, you starttalking about you got the
fastest receiver in the NFL onyour side.

SPEAKER_01 (43:30):
I but Trevor gave him one when he fumbled on the
one by trying to stretch theball out, which you should never
do.
Bill Belichick teams don't dothat.
Uh, what would Bill do?

SPEAKER_04 (43:43):
Yeah, well, we know what Bill would do, and we'll
talk about him in a little bit.
Um, he he would ask for abuyout.
But um, anyways, um, no, look,uh give them credit, give Liam
Cullen credit.
He's doing it with what I don'tthink is honestly a super
talented team, or maybe we'rejust unfamiliar with the talent

(44:05):
because they've been buried inthe top 10, you know, for a
gosh, almost a decade, uh asidefrom the Blake Bortles one year,
but they've been buried in thetop 10 for like a decade.
So now these players are finallycoming to fruition, even though
uh Trey Walker didn't even playin that game.
Um yeah, I mean, but this isgive Liam Collin his credit, and

(44:28):
you know, kind of similar to uhwhen Nick Sirianni did his press
conference and everybody kind oflaughed about at him.
He won a Super Bowl, everybodylaughed at Liam Collin because
of the way he said Duvall andstarted smirking afterwards, and
everybody's like, man, theseguys are about to get blown the
fuck out.
Now, Shane Siken, not ShaneSiken, I'm sorry.
What's my man in Arizona?
Rich Gannon, yeah.

(44:49):
Rich Gannon, no, it's not RichGannon.
Not Rich Gannon, uh uh CoachGannon.
Yeah, he coach Gannon.
Now, they look like that thing'sabout to blow up over there, and
his press conference sucked toobecause he's doing the pew,
fhew, phew, you know, JonathanGannon.
Yeah, and now that thing lookslike it's about to blow up.

(45:09):
He's getting hundred thousanddollar fines.
His player he should have gothis ass whooped.
I look, I mean, he wanted DMercado wants to play in the
NFL.

SPEAKER_01 (45:21):
Right, right.
And because D Mercado wants toplay in his in the NFL, because
of power dynamics, because ofhow we how the coach is the
authority figure, and we willexcuse an authority figure
crossing the line more than wewill uh uh the person who looks
up to the authority figure.
But in all reality, John Gannonknew he could get away with that

(45:44):
on the sideline, but he wouldhave never done that shit in the
facility if the media's not outthere.
Yeah.
He would have done that in themeeting room.
He wouldn't have got like faceto face with him in the meet uh
watching film with the team.
Well, ain't no cameras in here.
Yeah.
And and and that and that's myissue with it.

(46:06):
I understand it.
Coaches teach things, and I betyou, because of what happened in
the Colts game, they made that apoint of emphasis.
They they probably made that ahuge point of emphasis.
So for that to happen, for thatto happen when we know this ice
is the game, I can understandthe coach being upset enough to

(46:28):
react the way that John Gannondid, right?
I don't want anybody to think meshitting on him for doing this
is me acting like he that I'mabove it.
No, no, no.
You can be that upset.
Because and it shows me that youcare.
It shows me that you want towin.
I want that fire in my coach.
But in my head coach, I want alevel of restraint to be able to

(46:52):
look at the moment and properlyidentify where I need to inject
myself.
This kid's head is down.
He knows he's fucked up.
He probably doesn't need to beyelled at right now because he
still got to get out here andplay.
He's with his teammates andthey're picking him up.
And for then, for you to comeover there and do the yelling

(47:13):
thing and then you hit him inhis chest, and then when you
walk off, you bump him.
Hey, b hey dog.

SPEAKER_04 (47:22):
We don't don't bump me when you're walking away.
And we and we got a complete 180in the uh in the Patriots Bills
game because as soon as RamondreStevens fumbled for the fourth
time in as many games, theyshowed Mike Vray will come over
there, encourage him, pick himup.
He scores two touchdowns becauseobviously, you know, uh Gibson

(47:45):
goes down with the knee injuryon a kick return.
But uh, and then after the game,they interview Ramondre Stevens
and they ask him, they said,What did Coach Brave will say to
me?
He said, We still got, we'regonna need you.
We still got uh a lot morefootball left to play.

unknown (48:00):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (48:00):
He breathes it into his players.
Then they show him after thegame.
I was watching on Peacock.
After the game, he waits for allthe guys to come in and he daps
them up.
As he they go into the tunnel,he waits for them and he daps
all those guys up, you know, winor lose.
And so that's just thedifference between being a coach
and being a guy that got acoaching job.

(48:22):
And so it just, you know, it iswhat it is, but that's the
point, though.
You know, not it's not noteverybody's fit to be a head
coach.
And look, I know Jonathan Gannonhates it.
He probably saw Cliff got thatnice ass mansion out there that
was like, man, I want that forme.
And I hope he got it, but hewon't have it for long.
See, Cliff knows that he's gonnaget another job.

(48:42):
Jonathan Gannon's not the typeof guy, he's a one and done type
of guy.
Not one year and done,obviously, but a one and done.
He won't be a head coach againin this league.

SPEAKER_01 (48:52):
He'll be a DC if he's lucky.

SPEAKER_04 (48:55):
Look, it took uh it took our coach Radio Rahim,
what, 15, 16 years to get backto that position?

SPEAKER_01 (49:03):
Like, so and he waited too long.
I'm not even saying if he wasgood enough, he waited too long.

SPEAKER_04 (49:11):
Yeah, considering he was the youngest head coach in
NFL history.

SPEAKER_01 (49:14):
He's the youngest head coach in NFL history, and
he did have early success inTampa.

SPEAKER_04 (49:19):
He had that one year, but that's early success
in the Yeah, it was bad.
Like 3 and 13 the other two.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (49:26):
But I mean it's not like he got it's not like he had
played.

SPEAKER_04 (49:30):
And they didn't make the playoffs, remember, on that
10 and 6.
Then the Bears missed theplayoffs that year at 10 and 6.
Yeah.
Him and old Lovey.

SPEAKER_01 (49:39):
Uh, is there anything else from last week you
want to talk about?

SPEAKER_04 (49:42):
I think we pretty much covered all the bases.

unknown (49:44):
All right.

SPEAKER_04 (49:45):
Baseball pun for everybody that didn't get it.

SPEAKER_01 (49:48):
Real quick, can we get Gronk off of my TV?

SPEAKER_04 (49:54):
Lee, you are a professional muter, anyways.
Every time I text you about anyfootball game, it seems like,
you know, I gotta mute it.
And mainly, I guess it's mainlyjust Thursday night, but no, you
do Chris, you be muting Christoo.

SPEAKER_01 (50:06):
So everybody, I I watched the game.

SPEAKER_04 (50:12):
You don't like hearing what Tarico's gotta say,
you don't like hearing what Algotta say.

SPEAKER_01 (50:16):
So, so I'm not gonna lie to you.
Sunday, I did listen to thegame.
I thought when Tariko, uh, whenthe guy got the uh got the ball
and ran, Tarico commentatingthat was some of the funniest TV
I've ever seen.
But I don't watch a lot ofpregame shows, I don't watch a
lot of post-game shows.
Uh I don't really care for theanalysis that they give there.

(50:41):
I don't think it's greatanalysis.
And outside of Jay Glazerpopping on before the show to
drop a wogebomb, uh it adds verylittle value for me.
Uh but anytime I hear Gronk, I'mjust like, why?

SPEAKER_05 (51:00):
Why did I just hear Gronk?

SPEAKER_01 (51:02):
Yeah, like the like you can't allow Terry to correct
you on saying an African name.
Because if we know anything,Terry, out of anybody on that
set would struggle the most withsaying a Mecca Abuka.
And if it wasn't serious and itwas a joke, bad fucking joke.

SPEAKER_04 (51:28):
Yeah, get get that grown man's name right,
especially he's a grown manthat's bald.
You know, it's not Stephen Asaying Kwame Brown, but even
that is disrespectful, you knowwhat I mean?

SPEAKER_01 (51:39):
And like Kwame Bron.

SPEAKER_04 (51:40):
Well, and Kwame makes Kwame makes it known.
I mean, a book is not gonna doit.
He's he's you know, a rook orwhatever.
He's saying fuck Brock, stupidass.
And Brock's a former buck, too.
You know, no, I don't look athim that way, but he still did
play there.

SPEAKER_01 (51:55):
Yeah, and he won a Super Bowl there.
But like, what if I see you?
What if I see you one day?
You you know what I mean?
And and I check you because heybro, you play on my name.
I I I bet I've been I've I'vebeen him too long for you not to
know my name.
I I I I'm not like I'm not I'mnot Puka Nakool.
I didn't come out of nowhere,and only the people who were

(52:16):
tapped into college football,more specifically Pac-12
football, knew who Puka was.

SPEAKER_05 (52:23):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (52:24):
No, I'm a Mecca Abuka who was in the best
college wide receiver room ever,and people were saying I was the
best one in the room.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Like you you remember before hewas getting burned, this guy
mecca buka, they say he might bethe best one here, and then you

(52:44):
know, Maserati Marvin's goingcrazy, and then the next year we
see a mecca, and we like, ohshit, oh, oh, ho.

SPEAKER_04 (52:51):
Oh man, well, we got introduced to a mecha buka.
They had they played in the RoseBowl that one year.
It was corner, huh?

SPEAKER_01 (53:01):
You talking about when he played corner?
No, a mecha buca.
Oh, oh no, he went.
I'm trippy.
He didn't play corner either.

SPEAKER_04 (53:08):
He went, he went.
I there's a word I want to use,and I'm not gonna use it.
You know exactly what word.
He went that.
And the thing is, is that umyeah, let's go with ape shit.
He went ape shit.
He had like 270 yards and likefour touchdowns in that game.
It's like a Rose Bowl record.
And you know, that was when Igot introduced to him because

(53:30):
that was the year Garrett Wilsonand somebody else, they sat a
lot.
Yeah, they sat because obviouslythey knew they were first round
picks.
They're like, man, you know,fuck this game.
We're not in the playoffs.
And yeah, him, Maserati, Marv,and I think it was women.
I forgot who the other one was,but they went stupid in the
game.
They won the game, they scored aton of points.
And so, yeah, it's just it'sit's in it's insane.

(53:52):
And you know what?
You gotta get Grock off TV.

SPEAKER_01 (53:54):
I forgot, and I forgot last year with Abuka
because of uh what's what was myman's name, the receiver they
got there now?
Jeremiah Smith?
Or Ohio.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh then they had Jeremiah theyhad Jeremiah Smith last year, so
he like took a lot of the shineaway from Abuka because that
nigga's like Julio.

SPEAKER_04 (54:17):
You let you let uh you let Joel Clack tell it.
He said that you know there's alot of guys that get
comparisons.
He said, I think he's gonna bein that pantheon with the Jerry
Rice, is what he's saying.

SPEAKER_01 (54:30):
I I think it's irresponsible to say stuff like
that, even if it's true.

SPEAKER_04 (54:35):
Put him in the conversation with the GOAT, huh?

SPEAKER_01 (54:37):
I mean, would you even put him in a conversation
with with Justin Jefferson andJamar Chase?

SPEAKER_04 (54:45):
I can't put any guy that I haven't seen play.
There's certain guys, if I seethem play in person and I say
something, yeah, but I haven'tseen him play in person.
And I know it's like, well, whatdifference does it make?
You saw it on TV.
It makes a big difference whenyou see some shit in person.

SPEAKER_01 (55:00):
No, no, Trey Trey Young is a much better
basketball player if you'vewatched him in person.
Correct.
Uh like the 25 and 12 is there,and if we're being real, really
is like more so like 30 and 11.
Like you're gonna get that, butwhen you watch how he gets it
and orchestrates it during thegame and takes timely deep ass

(55:22):
threes, even the misses, if youare actually there and in the
arena, that shit makes way moresense than it does looking at
the Josh score.

SPEAKER_04 (55:31):
Yeah, and I had told you Grant, I don't know what's
up with him, but after I hadseen uh CJ Stroud in person, I
said, Oh no.
I said he's that that dude'sreal because he was, he's doing
that against George Steven.
I'm like, what the fuck is this?

SPEAKER_01 (55:44):
Like, bro, you know, you would have known did that
for me.
I went to uh Hawks uh OKC gameand SGA was out, and Giddy got
to like run the show, and he hadone of those like 20-point
triple doubles, yeah.
But yeah, but just every timeyou look up, you just watch

(56:04):
Giddy just just playing hisgame, and I'm like, yo, giddy is
nice.

SPEAKER_04 (56:10):
Giddy was Diddy, he was he was he was getting what
he wanted and and how he wantedit, but you know, it turns out
he was like, take that, takethat.

SPEAKER_01 (56:19):
But you know, after All-Star last year, Giddy
averaged like 20, 10, and 9.

SPEAKER_04 (56:24):
Giddy.
Yeah.
Look at that.
We just did the double Entendewith that.
I know we were talking aboutAntoine's how you pulled off a
triple, bro.

SPEAKER_02 (56:33):
Yo, some of my best shit.
Uh, but yeah, get Gronk off myTV.
And you know who else is gonnabe off of our TV, Parlay Pete?

SPEAKER_04 (56:44):
Who?

SPEAKER_02 (56:45):
Mark Sanchez.

SPEAKER_04 (56:46):
Oh man, you know, oh man, yeah, it's crazy.
I I didn't forget about it, butwe are doing the show.
What were your thoughts oneverything?
Now that we've heard everythingand we allegedly know what's
happened.

SPEAKER_01 (57:04):
Fuck Mark Sanchez.

SPEAKER_04 (57:06):
See, Florio made a good point, though, to where
Mark Sanchez might have a littlepower over Fox, though, because
of all this, being that if hedid come from a work event and
that he does typically do this.
Now, him and what he did withthe dude, totally different
thing.
But the drinking aspect of it,if this is what they normally

(57:29):
do, they're about to change theculture of Fox.
And we know that Fox clearly Foxme Fox, Shannon, all that stuff.
But man, Fox is they're in hotwater overall, just with
ethically how things are runover there, and we know Rupert's
not the one doing anything.

SPEAKER_01 (57:48):
But also, but also Trump has sued Rupert.

SPEAKER_04 (57:53):
So nobody likes Fox at this point.

SPEAKER_01 (57:56):
Well, and and and and but here's the thing if Fox
immediately fires Mark Sanchez,then they're liable in the
lawsuit.
Because why would you fire him?

SPEAKER_04 (58:09):
Well, exactly.
And but that's the thing, that'swhat I'm saying.
The idea that he's got thatpower over him to wear, he's
basically gonna be on paidleave, is what it sounds like to
me.

SPEAKER_01 (58:18):
Right.
But but like I'll tell you whatI went through when I first saw
it.
I was like, damn, Sanchez gotstabbed.
That's damn, I hope you're okay.
But me being somebody who getsdrunk and goes places, I'm like,
what the fuck did he do?
People don't get stabbed for noreason.

(58:39):
Like when the Steelers backupquarterback got got jumped and
robbed in Dublin, it wasn't forit, it wasn't for no reason.
He was either presenting himselfin a place to be a to he was
presenting himself too rich insomewhere where he shouldn't
have been, or he was talkingshit.

(59:01):
And he got fucked up.
And I'm saying this as somebodywho goes outside.
I've been in grimy places, I'vebeen in upscale places.
You have to carry yourselfappropriately in each venue.
Yeah, I don't wear my diamondearrings to every bar.
Sometimes you you want to blendin.

(59:22):
Yeah.
Even when they so that's whatI'm thinking.
Then I hear he's arrested.
I was like, oh shit.
Yeah, and then you hear thestory of oh acting like he on
like like like he on uh on heron, you know what I'm saying?

(59:43):
It's not heron on dust, right?
He run it running laps in thealley, yeah, jumping in niggas'
box trucks, telling them whereto park with your caring ass.
Hey, mind your business, boy.
And then the man pepper sprayedyou, which I found to be very
weird, man.
Why?
You own pepper spray, but again,69-year-old man though.

(01:00:05):
Yeah, but but yeah, I've neverowned pepper spray.

SPEAKER_04 (01:00:09):
He's 69 though, and he's a truck driver.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:11):
Cool, cool, but I've never owned pepper spray.
I would, I mean, look, I agreewith you.
That's 69.

SPEAKER_04 (01:00:16):
I ain't gonna own no pepper spray, but I'm just
saying.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:21):
And we shooting red hot shots,this motherfucker.
We ain't it ain't no, it ain'tno poker nut.
Like, like Mike Sanchez luckyhis ass is alive.
Because he could have got he hecould have got shot.
Right.
And in Indy, you can opencarrying that motherfucker.
You you you could have got shot.

(01:00:44):
Well, you're lucky he wasn't inTexas doing that shit.
You lucky he wasn't calling theAtlanta game doing them crazy
shit like that.
Right.
Well, imagine him trying thatshit in the city.
And one of them old niggasriding that box truck with that
nice little 380 and there, readyto shred nigga ready to let
something go.

SPEAKER_05 (01:01:04):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:06):
Look.
And they'll never find a pistol.

SPEAKER_04 (01:01:10):
Yeah, and look, I I I just think that when you look
at the situation again, shoutouts to the guy because he's
about to get a massive fuckingpayday.
A massive payday and deservesevery single cent.
And especially if his face isactually fucked up like
permanently.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:30):
So I don't I don't give a fuck what it is.
I was at work doing my job, andyou came and bothered me.
Fuck you.
And fuck Fox too.
I'm not gonna say that becauseyou know No, I'm not saying it.

SPEAKER_04 (01:01:46):
I'm saying that's what he's saying.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
Let me clean that up.
I don't want anyone to take takethis video and make an AI video
of me or something.
I I would hate for that tohappen.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:58):
No, because Fox, if you ever want to do a grassroots
Atlanta show, we're your guys,okay?
Absolutely.
FF1, they need something new.
Yeah, some of that money you'resaving with with Mark.
Okay, get get at your boy,holler at your boy.

(01:02:18):
Hey, we'll take a 30k salaryyear one and just put a
marketing budget behind us.

SPEAKER_04 (01:02:26):
Isn't that what Stephen A said?
He was like, Holl at your boy.

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:33):
Man, fuck him.

SPEAKER_04 (01:02:35):
I tell you what.
Speaking of Stephen A, I knowwe're kind of going all over the
place.
So let's say let's say thefootball.
We'll get to Steve.
Steve is Steve Steve's coming.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:52):
But but at the end of the day, Mark Sanchez is an
idiot.
Uh I was really hurt when Ilistened.
Uh so Chris Long talked aboutit, and he has a personal
relationship with Mark, and hewent to he's going through
something.
And I don't care what he's goingthrough.
Um I've done drunk shit.

(01:03:13):
I've blacked out before and wokeup and found out things that I
did, and some of those things Iwasn't proud of.
But I haven't done that.
And I I I work on not blackingout so that I never put myself
in that situation.
And I think that's the biggerthe biggest lesson to take away
from this.
For one, mind your own business,two, drink responsibly.

(01:03:37):
But also, if you're gonna getfucking hammered, don't black
out, dog.
Like, because you can do somedumb shit blacked out because I
think as humans, people go,that's not in my character.
That's not in my character.
No, uh, yes, it is.
I think all of us are capable ofkilling.
I think all of us are capable ofanything, right?
So because you have thecapability to do it, you never

(01:04:00):
want to put yourself in asituation where you lose the
ability to choose your actions.

SPEAKER_04 (01:04:07):
Very, very well put.
I mean, I couldn't put it anybetter, but um we got a comment
on here.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:17):
Uh oh, ignore that.
Cheap viewers at Steam Boo,Streamboo.com.
Remove the space.

SPEAKER_04 (01:04:24):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:27):
Um, that shit ain't scam likely.
But hey, leave that commentagain.
Keep leaving comments.

SPEAKER_04 (01:04:33):
Can you imagine us being desperate to not want to
organically grow this thing?

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:38):
I mean, people do it.
I mean, I've heard Rocillo talkabout people in the industry who
buy followers.

SPEAKER_04 (01:04:46):
Uh I've heard it in hip hop media as well.
Just as they do with theirrecords.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:55):
Is that a shot at somebody?

SPEAKER_04 (01:04:58):
I I I I I didn't make it.
I hey, we don't start rumors, weonly bring them up.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:09):
Well, what's next?
Uh we're done with Sanchez.
Oh shit, man.

SPEAKER_04 (01:05:14):
Touch Flacco real quick.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:17):
Uh got trimmed to the Bengals, and he's gonna
start this week.

SPEAKER_04 (01:05:23):
Let me get Green Bay.
Uh, let me get as many points asI can on them.
They're still gonna beat theshit out of them.
No, it should open up theoffense.
Fantasy owners are rejoicing.
Yeah.
They're not gonna win games, butlike at least Jamar Chase and
like Pete Higgins and ChaseBrown have life.

(01:05:44):
They got a chance.
They have a chance to beproductive.
They're still not gonna wingames.
Like, they're I I don't think Iwould take Green Bay on the 14,
uh, which again we'll get to thepicks later, guys.
But like is that the line?
Yeah, the line's 14.
It's actually 14 and a half, andlike, so I don't think I'd lay

(01:06:04):
that just because it's like, Imean, damn, I know quarterback
is an important position in theNFL, but these are
professionals.
But that that was before theFlacco trade.
I haven't looked at it since.
Matter of fact, actually.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:14):
I mean, but I mean, but but when you got Jamar Chase
on the other team, I I couldnever take 14 points against
Jamar Chase.

SPEAKER_04 (01:06:22):
Yeah, it's just it's still too many weapons to just
be like, oh yeah, they're gonnacover this with ease.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:28):
He can win a jump ball, somehow get both feet in
bounds, not get tackled andscore for 60.
He can catch a little stopperout, shake a nigga, and and
score.
Yeah, like and t.

SPEAKER_04 (01:06:44):
Right.
Like, and five.
And and and and even not animportant portant position, you
know, their tight ends are stillit's gonna Gesecki and they have
Nova Fans.
Like, these are talent, theseare guys that are playing
football.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:56):
Like hey, question for you.
Yes, if T.
Higgins and uh and DevontaeSmith, probably the two best
number two receivers in theleague, right?
Devontae Adams doesn't countbecause he's old.
Um who would be the number oneif they were in the same

(01:07:17):
receiving core?
Because they would actually be asolid receiving core together,
but who would be the number one?

SPEAKER_04 (01:07:26):
I uh and it's only because of age.
I I think T.

unknown (01:07:31):
Okay.

SPEAKER_04 (01:07:32):
And it's only because I mean all you have to
do is kind of look at Tay, hisnow his last two stops.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:39):
So far with the Rams, Puka is no, no, no, not
Devontae Adams, I'm sayingDevontae Smith.

SPEAKER_04 (01:07:44):
Oh yeah, give me T.
Give me T.
Yeah, give me T over the R.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:47):
I don't I don't count Devontae Adams in the the
top number two receiverconversation because he is an
older one and he still gets one,he he gets one target some
games, like and one treatmentfrom from defenders.

SPEAKER_04 (01:08:00):
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, I my bad.
I thought you said DevontaeAdams, but yeah, I'd still I'd
take T over Devontae Smith too.
Hey, but real quick on not aslam dunk easy, yes, either, but
I'd still take him over.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:13):
Real quick on Puka.
He really is getting number twotreatment, ain't he?

SPEAKER_04 (01:08:18):
Yeah.
No, Puka's getting number onetreatment.
Number he's getting I am thebest player in the NF.
I am fantasy football MVPtreatment.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:30):
Yeah, but he ain't lining up at X.

SPEAKER_04 (01:08:33):
Who cares?
He's he's getting 13 balls for160 and a touchdown.
I mean that's a lot of balls,man.
13.
New Kung Fu Kitty! Come on, man.
Hey, so does it so that's noteven an even number of balls?

(01:08:54):
How does that work?
If I say 13 balls, you're intosome freaking six.
That's what's that seven dicks,and one guy just moves his nuts
out the way.
Come on, yo, new kung fu kitty.
You're the one that's settingthis up.
This is what I'm saying.
I 13 ball, it'd be one thing ifit was an even number.
It wasn't.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:15):
Yeah, so uh, so with this flacco trade, that means uh
Dylan Gabriel is the guy inCleveland.
They saw enough um Sunday, whichI I I saw enough that says, hey,
this guy can start for a fewmore weeks.
He's at yeah, yeah.
He he he can he he's goodenough.
I mean, I'm not saying he'sgonna get us over the top, but I

(01:09:35):
mean we're Cleveland.
Uh so now that puts uh Shaduraat uh quarterback two.
Uh what do we think the futureis for the uh Cleveland
quarterback run?

SPEAKER_04 (01:09:47):
That they'll continue to lose games, and even
if Dylan Gabriel plays decent,that Shador will get a crack at
it because they have to justknow what they have.
And then from there, you know,if they like Dylan enough, he'll
stay.
Maybe Shador is the one thatgoes because they could maybe
find somebody that want thatwould want to work on him or

(01:10:08):
have him.
Uh, or if obviously if you knowif he plays well or whatever,
maybe it's him, or neither ofthem are the answer, and they,
you know, sign a Kirk Cousins orsomething and bring him in,
especially if Stefanski's stillthere, because that would work.
Um and he's the bridge for God,it won't be Arch.
Um, he's the bridge forwhoever's gonna be the next year

(01:10:30):
guy.
You know, it's it's it's hey,what are we talking about?
This is the Clevelandquarterback room.
Are you kidding me?
I don't have faith in anyone.
Who knows?
Maybe Four comes back.
Some people that that's been arumor, by the way, that four,
you know, that's what they callhim on Twitter.
There's like this Twitter pagethat everybody says is him, is

(01:10:51):
his burner, because the person'salways like four are gonna show
him.
If four comes back this season,there's rumors that four could
come back this season.
I think that they're gonna wantto see what Deshaun Watson can
do because one way or anotherhe's cut after this year, and
they're just gonna eat themoney.
They're already eating themoney, so it's like just what

(01:11:12):
difference does it make?
Four.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:15):
They four F-O-R-E, right?
No, they just do the now.
They literally type out just thenumber.
Oh, we we want to see four play.
Yeah, we're calling for fourplay.
Yes, yeah.
For four or two play, excuse me.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (01:11:35):
Um a lot of dirty minds in this room.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:38):
Really quickly, um as of now, that John Gruden
Discovery is coming out.

SPEAKER_04 (01:11:45):
Uh-huh.
And what are your thoughts onthat?

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:49):
It's not coming out.

SPEAKER_04 (01:11:53):
Why don't you think it's gonna come out?

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:56):
I I think that uh, you know, people like Jerry
Jones, who just got fined aquarter million of dollars, uh
will really see the their truefuck use.
Yeah, yeah.
And I think the NFL uh generatesentirely too much money uh to
get the fake blowback.
Um and their sponsors would loseuh stock, their stock would drop

(01:12:21):
temporarily for all the fakeblowback, uh, even though
everyone knows we're still gonnawatch football because we love
football as a nation more thanwe love God and country.
Yeah, it's it's right behindthose two things.
Uh right ahead of those things.
Not in my life personally.
I think football's, you know,after committing my life to the

(01:12:43):
country for 10 years, I thinkfootball is above country.

SPEAKER_04 (01:12:46):
So it's not God, family, football?
Or no, it's faith, family,football, football.

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:53):
Yeah, they say that until you have like a family
obligation or a faith obligationthat interferes with football,
and then it's a problem.

SPEAKER_04 (01:13:02):
It's a problem, but at the end of the day, you
you're a grown man, you get tokind of still make your
decisions.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:08):
I I'm talking about when you're it playing football.

SPEAKER_04 (01:13:11):
Oh, right.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:12):
Yeah, no, no, my faith comes before football.

SPEAKER_04 (01:13:16):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:17):
You know.
I um my uh depends on who youare in my family will determine
if you come before football.
And some would say that I putfootball before them.
Ooh, that's a dark joke.

(01:13:39):
But no, I I hope that this thediscovery comes out, it really
won't change my football fandombecause I still support the
players and the sport the sportitself.
And I'm not a person who ties mymorals to all of my dollars.
Uh and if the trickle-downeffects uh still go to the

(01:13:59):
players who dedicated theirlives to playing football and
just happen to be caught up in auh system that we may disagree
with, I'm still comfortableknowing that some of my dollars
go to B.
John Robinson's uh contract.
Well, Bajon, right?
No, you know, it's Bijan again.

SPEAKER_04 (01:14:19):
I know, because they did the Sunday night thing.
Yeah, but you know, everybodywas like, no, it's Bajon, and
it's just like Man, that nigganame B John, bro.

SPEAKER_01 (01:14:27):
He ain't wasn't no Bajon.
It's some shit he came up withit when he went to Texas to try
to clean it up.
You know good damn wellanybody's name who is Bijan is
if your name is spelledB-I-J-A-N, your name is B John.
Even if your mama wanted you tobe Bajon, everybody calls you B.
John.

SPEAKER_04 (01:14:48):
You know, Denzel, his name is Denzel, apparently.
Denzel Washington's name isDenzel.
You talking about Barry GottBarrett?
Yeah, I get the joke.

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:01):
You know, his name was Denzel Crocker.

SPEAKER_04 (01:15:03):
Yeah.
Yeah.
It looked like he glitched therea little.
I mean, you very got Barrett,you know, it was crazy.
Oh, it didn't land.
No, it landed.
I I said, I get where you'recoming from, but yes, ha ha ha
ha.
Yes.
Um he did an interview and heliterally said that his dad's

(01:15:24):
name was Denzel.
Or his yeah, his dad's name wasDenzel, and he's a junior, which
I didn't know that he was ajunior, but he's a junior, and
whenever the mom would sayDenzel, they would both look.
And so to distinguish it, shesaid, You're Denzel, you're
Denzel.

(01:15:44):
And that it just kind of stuckfrom there, even though his name
is really pronounced Denzel.
Same thing with the Kelseybrothers, their last name is
Kelsey, not Kelsey.
But their coaches called himKelsey, and it stuck.
I don't I don't know the storybehind why their theirs is
pronounced wrong, but it wouldbe like if I didn't go by
Pierce.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:06):
What would you go by?

SPEAKER_04 (01:16:10):
I don't know.
I wouldn't let anyone.
I mean, people call me Pete,obviously.
That's whenever I order takeout,it's so much easier to just do
that because if I spell my name,I know they're gonna pronounce
it wrong.
So it's like it just is all andthen my brother Blair's may God
rest his soul, he came up withthe nickname Pete.
He would just call, he said,What's going on, Pete?
So it kind of just stuck.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:31):
How do they pronounce your name when you
when you spell it?

SPEAKER_04 (01:16:34):
Uh, I get Pierce, I get Pyrus, uh, I've gotten Paris
before.
I mean, I get a lot of stuff,never Pierce for whatever
reason.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:43):
My my phone calls you Paris.

SPEAKER_04 (01:16:46):
Yeah, so I get it all.
And you know, a substituteteacher loves to see my name
coming.
Does they're like, they're like,all right, I can fuck this one
up as much as I want.
They do.

SPEAKER_02 (01:17:05):
I know.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:06):
Oh shit.
Uh speaking of substituteteachers, do we need to
substitute the fucking preseasonpolls out?
Because uh I don't think theyhave value anymore with the
transfer portal.
Um you don't really know who isreally who because teams aren't

(01:17:28):
bringing the entire team back.
Um and then teams have theseelevated expectations, and other
teams have to struggle to to getto move up in the polls simply
because of where we rank teamsand how we value these wins and
losses.
When ultimately we don't knowanything, and in the you know,

(01:17:50):
the professional leagues, thepolls don't matter, you know the
the the the wins and losses do.
And and maybe we should movetowards that model also in
college football since we'returning it into to semi-pro
football, right?

SPEAKER_04 (01:18:07):
Yeah, I mean you could you could say that.
I you know, but there's a bigdifference, obviously.
You know, now with collegefootball, they want people to
they want to approve betting andstuff, you know.
That's what's going on incollege football.

SPEAKER_01 (01:18:25):
Hey, yeah, real quick, that's some bullshit.
How the fuck can they bet onthemselves?
I mean that's fucking greedy.

SPEAKER_04 (01:18:34):
Yeah, we are that greedy because it's at the point
where, and I obviously that theclip or the excerpt or whatever
on Instagram we got, it didn'treally break down what that
meant.
I'm gonna assume it means onother sports, like the NFL and
stuff like that, but like it isstill just worrisome because you

(01:18:55):
know it's going on, it's goingon right now in reality.
Yeah, you know, but at leastit's because it's so regulated
and you're seeing players getpopped, whether that's pros or
college, because if you sawthere were a bunch of college
basketball guys that got poppedfor this.
There's like five of them.
We've seen the documentary ofthe kid that went to Arizona
State, uh, and how they ended upgetting caught for it back in

(01:19:17):
the 90s.
Um, again, Terry Rogier andMalik uh Beasley, who he's got
some evidence on the cast.

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:25):
Yeah, hey, hey, hey, and and and and neither guy has
been found guilty of anything.
They've just been investigated.

SPEAKER_04 (01:19:30):
Innocent until proven guilty.

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:32):
Yeah, innocent.
Innocent.
They are innocent.
Yeah, sure.
Sure.

SPEAKER_04 (01:19:37):
Tell that to the judge.

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:38):
Um, but uh as the judge says they're guilty, then
I'll call them guilty.
But I don't even like sayinginnocent until proven guilty.
I say innocent because that'swhat it is.

SPEAKER_04 (01:19:49):
Sure, Lee.
Uh, but yeah, we should justthrow out these preseason
rankings.

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:55):
Yeah, I just think they're shit because then you
create these expectations, andthen Arch Manning is out here
looking like somebody who mightneed to get benched, but his
last name's Manning, and youcan't bench him.
But can you bench him?
Should you bench him or shouldyou let him like play through it
and be better for next year?
Like, what do you do?

SPEAKER_04 (01:20:16):
Shark's job isn't on the line this year.
No, it should be, he should betalked about in the same light
as James Franklin because I knowthat that's the reason why this
is a topic for us, because bothof those teams lost this week.
Now, James Franklin's wasinexcusable.
I don't care what you say.
Um, they played against a teamthat even on their on their best

(01:20:38):
day shouldn't be able to hangwith Penn State, especially a
Penn State coming off of a loss.

SPEAKER_01 (01:20:45):
Uh well, cross-country travel, it was a
road game.
Sure.
So hey, I listened to Calheardand Clatt talk about this.
Clatt said that uh uh Aller wasthe best player for Penn State

(01:21:05):
on Saturday, and their offensivescheme is bad for him, so that's
why he's not playing well.
And Calheard gave Penn St triedto give Penn State a pass
because they had tocross-country travel and their
kids.

SPEAKER_04 (01:21:22):
Nah, I don't know about that.
Um I don't know about that.
I I I chopped that up to a lackof want-to and then a lack of
coaching.
I I mean there's so manydifferent angles you could take.
And you are getting a UCLA teamthat was desperate.
They were very desperate, but itwas also new, you know,

(01:21:43):
leadership.
And also, shame on you, CBS, forshowing the offensive
coordinator more than the headcoach.
And I'm not making this a racething or anything because it's
not a race thing, but they keptshowing the white offensive
coordinator the entire game.
And I get it.
He's calling the plays.

(01:22:03):
Nico is out there looking likeBryce Young at Bama His in the
year.
That's what he looked like.
But that was not the why are weshowing the OC so much?
They showed the OC the entiregame, then they showed him
getting carried off.
And I get it, he's a former UCLAquarterback himself.
Yeah, he which Rick was in thestudio.

(01:22:24):
They're showing him tear up withthe CBS cast.

SPEAKER_02 (01:22:28):
Hey, bro, he's the offensive play caller.
This nigga ain't even the headcoach.
What the fuck are we tearing upfor?
This ain't his first fuckingwin.

SPEAKER_04 (01:22:35):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:22:36):
Why is he all over social media?
See, I didn't even know that thehead coach was black, I just
didn't know who the fuck he wasbecause they ain't showing him.

SPEAKER_04 (01:22:43):
Well, and let's not turn this into a Joe Brady, uh,
Ed Orgeron type of ordeal,right?
Joe Brady was getting sucked sohard.
Um, and look, that offense wasmaybe the greatest we've ever
seen in college football.
Joe Brady, think about it,people were talking about Joe
Brady getting head, he was apassing game coordinator.

(01:23:04):
And they were talking about thisman getting head coaching jobs
in the NFL.

SPEAKER_01 (01:23:08):
But what people didn't realize was that offense
had a top five quarterback inthe NFL the day he showed up.
And two top five receivers inthe NFL the day they showed up.

SPEAKER_05 (01:23:26):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:23:27):
And they were just playing in college.

unknown (01:23:32):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:23:32):
So now we've seen what Joe Brady is now that he
has Josh Allen.
Holy shit, you give him a topfive quarterback in the NFL,
this guy knows what the fuckhe's doing.

SPEAKER_04 (01:23:44):
Yeah, he's got a big Willie all of a sudden.

SPEAKER_02 (01:23:46):
But you give him talent, average talent.

SPEAKER_04 (01:23:52):
Man.
Well, Joe Brady, he's in Buffaloright now, right?

SPEAKER_02 (01:23:57):
Yeah.
But remember he what what he wasin uh Carolina as the OC.
Yeah, it didn't go very well.
And I and what he had, SamDarnold and Baker, didn't he?

SPEAKER_04 (01:24:08):
Yeah, he sure did.
With Matt Rule under the helm,though.
But nobody's gonna look at JoeBrady and say, oh, Joe Brady was
a problem, which gets back tothe new Heisel thing.

SPEAKER_02 (01:24:18):
But like, yeah, but like, but but but but while
we're here on Joe Brady, SamDarnold and fucking Baker
Mayfield are playing some goodfucking football.

SPEAKER_04 (01:24:29):
Yeah, Baker's in line to maybe, not even maybe,
if he keeps it up the rest ofthe year, he's gonna take over
the top, he's gonna be thehighest fake player in the
league.

SPEAKER_01 (01:24:38):
Yeah, and he's an MVP candidate.
Like he and Dak are killingshit.

SPEAKER_04 (01:24:43):
That boy Dak, man.
Let me tell you, I was tryingto, I was gonna make an offer to
Matt because Matt's benching Dakand it's starting Matt Stafford.

SPEAKER_01 (01:24:51):
And Matt Stafford's playing pretty well too, but
like Yeah, I'm like uh uh butyeah, Arch isn't playing well,
and I think it's okay.
He doesn't have experience.
People forget that good playersstruggle even when they're on

(01:25:14):
good teams.
Yeah, Joe Burrow wasn't good hisfirst year at LSU.
Like I I I think we're gettingto a point in sports where we're
expecting immediate successbecause we see it from from good
players.
Yeah, we see it regularly, but Istill don't think that should be
the standard because back toBaker Mayfield, back to Sam

(01:25:34):
Darnold, these guys are pay areplaying to the level to which
they're getting paid, if notmore.
And it took them a while.
Sometimes it takes a minute,everybody doesn't show up day
one killing shit, but weshouldn't be so quick to move on
or fire just because we're notkilling shit.

SPEAKER_04 (01:25:56):
Yeah, it's and that's a fair point.
But uh to kind of wrap up, Iguess, the college aspect of
this.
Yeah, I don't think getting ridof the can you really get rid of
it?
Can you can you get rid of it?
No.
Can it's it's look, it's justlike five-star recruits and
stuff.
DJ Williangle is not, you know,I guess he's the third stringer

(01:26:19):
out there in LA, but like topquarterback in his class that
year, and he was with nothingbut guys that are pros that are
all starting.
And you can't get rid ofrankings, but at the end of the
day, they don't have to meananything.
And Vegas, Vegas is the biggestsucker for it more than
anything.
Well, we as the consumer toVegas is the biggest sucker

(01:26:42):
because you goddamn right I tookthat Penn State 23 and a half,
and then by halftime, Iliterally took UCLA money on
because I said, I've got to savemyself.
And I did.
They came back, I mean theystayed ahead and never released
the league.
But like, as soon as they weredown 20, UCLA was still plus 110
at halftime.
I said, let's get UCLA becauseI've seen enough.

(01:27:03):
I've already seen it, and I waslike, there's no way they
dropped this game to them.
I said it's James Franklin.

SPEAKER_01 (01:27:11):
Well, speaking of coaches and dropping games, look
like Bill Belichick's ready tojust drop a whole school.

SPEAKER_04 (01:27:22):
Well, he knows that he's already set up his son to
be the successor, and you knowhow that's gonna work.
If Bill ends up leaving,especially in the middle of the
season, that contract isprobably set up to where he has
the interim tag this year.
If Bill were to leave this year,interim tag this year, then he
has one year next year, thenthey fire him immediately.

SPEAKER_05 (01:27:43):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (01:27:44):
Like they're gonna fire him immediately, and
they're gonna get uh Lombardi'sass out of there.
They gotta say, you people arefootball people.

SPEAKER_02 (01:27:53):
Like they're gonna send Lombardi back to the
podcast.

SPEAKER_04 (01:27:56):
Yeah, man, he'll be on Beaston.
Uh getting to talk about, youknow, how the Falcons are just a
fucked up organization.
That's what's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_01 (01:28:04):
You know what?
Lombardi lost credibility as auh as a media guy now.
I mean, because they just haveshit because like when he was in
Cleveland and shit didn't work,you can be like, hey man, it's
Cleveland.
Uh it's hard to make shit workin Cleveland, you know.
You you want to know whoLombardi is?

SPEAKER_04 (01:28:27):
Who Lombardi is Lombardi is consequence to Kanye
to Bill Belichick's Kanye.
Tell me more.
So you saw the clip when MichaelShea uh got up on Kanye or
whatever after the Red Hat thingon SNL.
Yeah, my but consequence is aguy, consequence gets on, you
know consequence is as a rapper,yeah.

(01:28:48):
Like you know who he is.
Yeah, he's probably the mostloyal nigga to Kanye, like out
of everybody.
Yeah, not even close.
But that's what Lombardi is.
He's the last of the Mohicanswhen it comes to this thing.
He's the last guy.
You know, nobody reallyassociates with Bill anymore, if
we're being honest, nobody does.
You know, he's got his 23,24-year-old girl.

(01:29:11):
You know, he's out here sellinghope to guy to bad players.
Matty P went to Ohio State.
That's what I'm saying.
Uh, and obviously, uh what's hisface?
Went back with Verable to NewEngland.
So it's like uh, yeah.
McDaniels doesn't want to touchcollege.
Man, let me tell you something.

(01:29:32):
McDaniels is gonna continue tocollect the check isn't OC
because he's not gonna get ahead coaching opportunity again.
He's another one of those guysthat was a coordinate, and he
got a second chance.
He will never be a head coachagain.
Not in the NFL, he won't be.
No, he he's an offensivecoordinator, and I think it's
crazy because he has so muchshelf life to where
realistically he could still bea head coach again, but like it

(01:29:53):
just isn't gonna happen.
Because fool me once, shame onyou, fool me twice, shame on me.

SPEAKER_01 (01:29:58):
But also, like all the the the the media coming out
of that year in Las Vegas andthen having uh Devontae Adams on
receivers and just some of thatstuff and then him and Max
Crosby on the podcast.
It's like they they put thestink out on him to the players.

SPEAKER_04 (01:30:17):
Yeah and I just think uh overall you know is the
Belichick tree finally witheringup and dying oh brother is it's
already dead kind of like Mollyand ESPN some would say yeah

(01:30:37):
sure why not right Molly at ESPNwill you know it's it's crazy
because when you start losinglegs off of uh a show or
anything for that matter itslowly but surely falls apart
and maybe this could be thebeginning of the end for first
take not because Molly's thatimportant but normally when a

(01:31:03):
show gets taken down more andmore and more it just it does
wither away kind of like theBell check trick and that's what
I think is gonna ultimately endup happening and that's why
they're moving Steve around Imean they're making Steve earn
his money but they're movingSteve around why is Steve Smith
on my Monday night countdownbecause they know that I'm not

(01:31:27):
gonna turn it off because he'son there.
Because they know that I'm thereto watch the game I'm ready to
hear Joe and Troy um and I'm notI'm not phased by Stephen A
Smith when it comes to it butit's like my goodness I have to
hear him talk about the game inthe morning potentially in the
afternoon then I have to hearhim again at night then when
basketball starts I'm gonna hearhim every night because whenever

(01:31:49):
ESVN has a game I have to listento all of it.
And so hey Pauly Peter don'tforget when you're scrolling on
IG he's gonna go viral on theStephen A Smith show so you're
gonna get that too yeah oh andthen you know if I say you know
what I'm done with sports let meturn to CNN let me turn to Fox
News then it's Steve again andit's just like Steve is is Steve

(01:32:13):
Smith trying to be God is hetrying to be omnipotent
omnipresent at all times in themedia is he that guy now I mean
I mean he he's you might seeSteve Smith as much as you see
Donald Trump.

SPEAKER_01 (01:32:26):
Yeah bro I I saw Steve Steve Smith talking about
Jasmine Crockett but why I sawSteve Smith talking about Jimmy
Kimball and pretty much sayinghey Donald Trump is watching all
his enemies you better fall inline it's like you know when I

(01:32:47):
wake up every morning I thinkabout making my bosses money oh
that's crazy Steve bro that'ssome Kenny type shit man you
wake up in the morning thinkingabout how to make another man
money huh?
Like would you you say you fromHollis, Queens would you go
uptown to Harlem and say that toDame Dash to his face say to

(01:33:09):
Steve Smith of ESPN if he toldhim I wake up every morning
thinking about how to make mybosses more money you know
that's a good question.

SPEAKER_04 (01:33:22):
Nobody knows what Steve does in Hollis Queens.

SPEAKER_01 (01:33:24):
We just know he's from Hollis Queens allegedly
well right well if you letWhitlock tell it we don't know
anything about Steens we don'tknow where he played ball we
don't know we don't knowanything about the guy but uh we
do know that he no longer wantedMontyquarum on the show and

(01:33:47):
rightfully so for what it'sworth I mean I mean I don't
think she added$5000 in value toESPN and that's why that first
show afterwards he said I'mhosting because he was probably
like give me that$500K healready took it yeah when he
signed his contract they saidhey Stephen A here's a list of

(01:34:12):
people we can fire here's thepeople list of people that we
will fire and these are thepeople that are gone already now
you can take from the can fireand take off some of the we'll
fire and I and I think Shannonopened up a little bit of money

(01:34:38):
for us.
Yeah Shannon yeah yeah Shannonhelped us out yeah at the end of
the day he says that he's theone who who makes these
decisions who's gonna be onfirst take so at the basic level
if he really wanted Molly querumthere he makes enough money and
he's he's given money backbefore right his work not mine

(01:35:02):
that uh if he really wantedMolly there she would be there.
But again they said she wantedto pay raise uh this is reported
she wanted to pay raise from heruh$500,000 annually and she
wanted an expanded role on ESPNbut for the people again Molly
get paid young nigga get paidbut but you don't provide five

(01:35:26):
hundred thousand dollars invalue and and based on what you
do on first take nothing aboutthat says I want to utilize you
in an expanded way on thisplatform.

SPEAKER_00 (01:35:35):
Right just personally like I'm and and
maybe because she didn't displayher chops as more than just a
moderator you know we don't knowmaybe she you know maybe they
should have gave her some mop upuh sports center duty on the
weekend yeah to maybe get in heranchor bag because maybe that
was there for but based on theway that she was positioned as a

(01:36:00):
moderator I don't think herpersonality and the analysis
that I have heard from her playswell into a different role like
what you're gonna put her inMalika's place no they weren't
gonna do that um because theyjust remember they read up
Malika too so whatever they'regiving her which I have to

(01:36:20):
imagine is more than what theyoffered Molly of course because
she does more to a decent andshe's younger and hotter I don't
think that matters I think itdoes and then you know her and
Dave are a team if Dave goes shegoes you know yeah I mean yeah
when yeah sure that I mean thenagain I don't know if you saw

(01:36:43):
their wedding but it all makessense I'll leave it at that we
can talk off mic about that oneI'm just saying I mean we saw
what kind of wedding it was I'llleave it at that I didn't see it
I didn't even know they weremarried I thought they were
still engaged okay well justtake a look see and see I know

(01:37:05):
that I know you're bullshittingbut no I'm so serious I didn't
well I tell you what let's takea look at what type of school
look at Malika's background ohno I've seen I've same with
Dave's background and they'vegot something in common and it's
a part of their wedding oh maybea religion I you said it not me

(01:37:30):
got you not even I don't I don'tI don't need to look anymore uh
let me not talk too much uhthere are people that are always
listening to us right uh yeahyeah we don't want to offend BB
um yeah three minutes left wegotta we gotta push yeah uh well

(01:37:51):
I'm looking at it here we've gotuh well let's get into Steve's
while we're still on himobviously his thoughts on LeBron
James and uh is there any wayyou can maybe even pull that up
just so we can get the the Ican't do you think do you think
Steve's got some some copyrightson us here Steve doesn't care

(01:38:14):
about us did I send it to you orto the group text he sent it to
me oh yeah I got it here we gohere we go here we go I'll stop
playing let me turn this whenthey said that if you make a bad
movie typically you don't have asequel so if you look at the
decision and the manner in whichthat was handled and the way it

(01:38:37):
served to alienate folks back atthat time you would think that
he wouldn't want to remindpeople of that considering the
heat he took from that andunfortunately he's t he was tone
deaf and that's not the decisionthat's not the the path that he
took this was corny as hell itwas cringy it was all of that we
know this um you know you'repromoting an alcoholic beverage

(01:38:58):
and trying to give people theimpression that this could be
your final season that you mightend up retiring and so you know
one other person joked and theysaid you know what that that's
like Jordan compare that toJordan saying you know I'm back.
What if he had said LeBron wasretiring but then it happened to
be a Haynes commercial you knowwhat if it had been something
like that and that's what thiswas the equivalent of in the end

(01:39:21):
um I don't understand thegreatest player who ever lived
one critic said it four timechampion the four time league
NVPers who have ever lived wouldwould stoop to trying to garner
attention for himself uh withsomething other than trying to
win a damn championship.
I want I want to be telling howto get his money a leg is gonna

(01:39:43):
win legs gonna be in the pitchthat that that's what I care
about.
I don't give a damn about someHennessy commercial especially
from him.

SPEAKER_01 (01:39:49):
Hennessy cares about it though if you play like
garbage at any point in timewhen it really really counts I'm
gonna think about the Hennessycommercial and wonder if you was
drinking something somethingbefore the game I mean that's
what's gonna have me thinkingabout I find those in I'm
turning them off after thatStephen A Smith that's some of
the nastiest shit you've everdone on TV that's some of the
nastiest shit you've ever doneon TV for one it's not you it's

(01:40:12):
it doesn't matter what you wantLeBron James to promote you
don't own him he doesn't workfor you y'all ain't friends
y'all ain't family y'all ain'tcool him promote like don't get
me wrong I thought it was cornyas hell too but LeBron is corny
and if you know LeBron you knowLeBron is corny so when I saw

(01:40:33):
the decision too I'm like ohhere goes some corny ass shit
and then people like oh he's ishe gonna retire like what I sent
to you I spelled out I rollright like and then it's
Hennessy and it's like wowselling the niggas liquor huh
yeah man like like if if Stevewould have took that stance like

(01:40:55):
hey LeBron you're supposed to bea a positive role model for the
black community but meanwhileyou're out here pedaling black
stereotypes by telling the wholeworld to stop and listen to you
talk about like promote a acognac brand that is associated
with black culture.
You know what Stephen A Smith Iwould be right there with you

(01:41:15):
but you you you're not thatnuanced of an individual and
you're just gonna you're gonnasay I all I want to hear you
talk about is winningbasketball.
Hey LeBron James big fan I don'twant to hear you promoting
hennesy dog I think it's nastywork.
Those disgusting that make thewhole world stop for you to
promote some fucking hennesyit's so niggerish.
Right.

(01:41:35):
But Stephen A Smith and then tofinally suggest that if they're
not playing good I'm a thing ofyou on it bro what the fuck we
doing now dog for one you knowthat players play hungover
because you've covered teams andthat's stuff that's that's
plenty of guys will come out andsaid that they were drinking
before games but that's not foryou to say media man and then to

(01:41:58):
even suggest that if LeBron'splay a nigga who's playing in
year 23 at the age of 40 ifLeBron sucks next year it's
okay.
It's not because of the hittyyeah the drop off from last year
would be like what the fuck butwho the hell do we expect to be

(01:42:19):
good at 40 in year 25 you knowwhat I mean well only the king
himself okay Steve start callingyou Parley A Smith.

SPEAKER_04 (01:42:34):
Steve Stevie start calling you parley isn't that
what Molly called him Stevie Ithink at one point in time
during their uh or I know I knowit was SA too because the chick
that claims that she datesStephen A was like she's using
that to hang over his headsaying sexual assault is

(01:42:54):
something crazy.
You remember you know what I'mtalking about.

SPEAKER_01 (01:42:56):
Yeah yeah yeah Stephen A's girlfriend had just
popped out of nowhere likearound his contract time and
then she disappeared and wehaven't heard from her again
yeah well Steve Steve had to youknow go he had to go you know
she she she's not a real humanbeing she was an AI.
What type of women do you thinkStephen A gets uh young Latinas

(01:43:21):
Okay so you don't think he'sinto the Tortas the Torta
Latinas I I I I think that he hehe he pays for Dominican women
and he doesn't he he cramps Ithink he's I just think he's a
trick yeah I mean like whatabout Stephen A.

(01:43:42):
Smith says good hang and I maysound like a hater but like
nothing about his demeanor onair says he's a good fucking
hang yeah would you would youwant to hang out with Stephen A.
Smith if it if it gets me onESPN and he he wants to no no no
no no no no I'm not talkingabout professionally I mean good

(01:44:06):
time no I'd rather hang out withthat idiot Gronk like does Ryan
Clark say hey he's a good hangprobably not I mean you know
well you catch Ryan Clark at theuh host office at the aria so we

(01:44:26):
know what Ryan Clark likes to doI think Fred Taylor and Shannon
Crowder make him seem cool andhe probably is cool but he's not
cool on air and because he's notcool on air I don't fuck with
that shit so even if you are acool ass nigga you ain't cool if
that makes any sense I tell youwhat you rather get a beer with

(01:44:48):
RG3 or get a beer with StephenA.

SPEAKER_04 (01:44:51):
Oh RG3 just just because he's a Heisman winner
right be like yeah I had a beerwith the Heisman winner.

SPEAKER_01 (01:44:57):
Yeah like uh I think RG3 is a weird nigga I think
he's a cornball brother but Ifeel like Steven Snowing I ain't
going oh absolutely I I I thinkStephen A is gonna try to put me
on game the whole time we'rehaving a beer and then he
doesn't he doesn't come awaywith the chick's number that
he's talking about he's like nowsee that one right there nah

(01:45:20):
he's gonna be like you know ifyou really want to work in this
media industry man is what youhis like hey you gotta get your
confidence up like that oneright there.
It's like hey go over there youtell her hey I'm I'm AC Lee the
watch the winning podcast andwhen she says what's that you

(01:45:40):
tell her it's the best damnpodcast honestly and you crazy
as hell because you don't listento it you know I wouldn't be
surprised if that was some shitthat that nigga would say though
as advice I really wouldn't asI'm saying it I say I might

(01:46:01):
start doing it.

SPEAKER_04 (01:46:02):
Well Steve is pretty predictable at that point right
but yeah to to wrap a bow on himbecause I know we got to hurry
up and jet through some of thisother stuff um yeah Steve grow
up man like what is this why arewe trying to put down LeBron we
get it you don't like him that'sokay he doesn't like you what

(01:46:24):
was the point of even havingthat as a segment everybody knew
he wasn't retiring again Ifigured it was gonna be
something they said Amazon Primethat was like one of the rumors
it was Hennessy all rightwhatever he already had a deal
with them throw the fuck up Ithought I thought they may have
announced some NBA Europesomething like I'm going to NBA
Europe in 2027.

(01:46:45):
I'm just like all right whatevernigga not even that worst case
scenario if it even had anythingto do with basketball maybe it
would have been coming 2026we'll get to see who's the real
king of the court because we'regonna have the Emirates Cup will
involve the top four teams inEurope.
Yeah but you know uh anotherstar player who might actually

(01:47:09):
be on the move Giannis and wecan do this real quick man these
I do I do think he's gonna begone because the reality of the
situation is why is it that thateven comes out as a rumor and
then then they do address it andthen he says you know what in
six months you never know it'sjust like you're basically
saying kind of sayingchampionship or bus or

(01:47:32):
forcefully get somebody hereeven though we have no assets to
trade to get anybody here it'sit's not a matter of if it's a
matter of when and ifMilwaukee's smart I don't know
what they would be able to getfor him at all star break but
you know yeah I think he's goneI I just don't know why he would

(01:47:54):
leave I don't think anysituation gets markedly better
and dog you got your MVPs yougot your championships you are
Milwaukee why don't you juststay there and give them the
opportunity opportunity to tryto retool around you again you
know what I mean because he'llbe 35 by the time that happens

(01:48:15):
so what hey the kids the wifethey moved to Greece let Giannis
have some fun in a big city huhnot that you know the New York
media wouldn't fucking see himout with some 24 year old
influencer if he was walkingaround Brooklyn or you know
fucking Dumbo or something rightlike I mean but like like let's

(01:48:37):
think about it parlay pito youknow players bounce around
trying to win and any in thesequick fix situations but if you
are a Giannis a joker you know asolidified guy in a city and you
brought a ring there why wouldyou leave if you continue to be

(01:48:57):
a playoff team and yeah youcan't you haven't gotten over
the hump but Milwaukee theytried LeBron left again yeah he
brought a championship and heleft it's off the court though
he wanted all of his off thecourt shit but higher higher
quality of living and if we'relooking at it that way then I I

(01:49:19):
don't have an argument for youbut I just think there's value
in staying somewhere and justbeing the guy there and shit man
everything is yours.

SPEAKER_01 (01:49:35):
You know what I mean like Giannis doesn't pay for
anything in Milwaukee and I knowMilwaukee is not like the best
place in the world but he'sstill getting uh valuable
information so that he can makemore money outside of the salary
cap the right way haha stock tipnot actually uh fake endorsement
deals Steve Ballmer and and sohe can grow his empire and he's

(01:49:57):
and like Giannis specifically hesupersedes any market now you
know like he's he's Giannis soit doesn't matter where you put
Giannis he's gonna get theendorsement stuff but yeah any
oh wow we are running out oftime um yeah did he did he got
four years real quick did he gotfour years how do we feel about

(01:50:17):
that Paul um you know this wasmy thought I thought that it was
a little harsh in a sense ofconsidering what they convicted
him of but that was payback formore of what he did and then
even when you break down thenumbers if you get 50 months
it's four years two months righthe's they've given him 14 months
time sir so it's it's I thinkthey gave him 54 months okay so

(01:50:43):
it's 40 months I heard yeah Iheard it was yeah I read
somewhere where it's 40 it wasyeah but still you gotta do 85%
of your time and then the waythat they made it sound as if he
might qualify for a certainprogram to where that knocks it
down to where he'll spend thesecond half of the sentence
basically in a halfway houseanyways which will be plush and
you know he'll be out kind ofit'll be a halfway house but

(01:51:06):
he'll be out and you know hewon't be a menace to society and
I guess that that's the biggestthing right typically when these
sentencings happen it's the ideaof are they a threat to society
obviously when people likeCassie write uh their those
letters and others come inbasically saying they fear for
their life still or retaliationhe's a very powerful man you

(01:51:29):
guys are underestimating himlook at how long he's been in it
you know he can get me touchedwithout touching me or without
you ever finding out that he'sthe one that got me touched and
then it looks like somethingjust ironically happened to me I
get it but I still thought itwas just kind of harsh I feel
like he's already been in therefor a year.
The reality of the situation isum and not to quote 6ix9ine but

(01:51:53):
he was on academic and basicallyhe said he beat the feds he said
niggas don't win Rico cases theysaid young thug took a pulley
you know on his deal and that hedidn't beat it diddy didn't take
no putdy essentially beat a Ricocase and he's only getting 40
months and the one thing andalthough there was precedent for

(01:52:15):
it uh them being able to usestuff from the other charges
that he wasn't convicted of inhis sentencing just overall that
bothers me and again there'sthere's there's case law and
precedent for it so the judgewas not outside of their reach
to do it I I just think that'sdangerous to where if I'm

(01:52:38):
convicted if I'm can if I'maccused of something you can use
that to add to my convictioneven if I wasn't convicted of
that but well at the same timebut at the same time I there I
have no sympathy for for Diddyeven if I'm not a fan of how it
the process played out uh yeahso fuck him yeah and and again

(01:53:00):
just and we can put a ribbon onit but like with him his
professionally he's alreadyruined like he'll never have
those endorsements again he'snot gonna work with Sirac again
he's not gonna just that thatCassie video you know pretty
much ended his professionalcareer to a degree yanks are

(01:53:21):
cooked oh yeah yeah yeah yeahyeah welcome to October yeah and
that's typically when it ends Imean think about it out last
year was kind of an admirationfor them you know yeah but uh
ladies and gentlemen it is timefor Parlay Page football six six

(01:53:50):
six six all right so we've got anice little slate here of
college picks uh I kind ofreally like this slate honestly
and Lee I know you're gonnadisagree with me on this but
again it's back to the fool meonce shame on you fool me twice
shame on me I'm gonna have toget fooled twice Northwestern at
Penn State I'm gonna take PennState minus 20 and a half I just

(01:54:12):
don't see how they can't bounceback at home against
Northwestern.

SPEAKER_04 (01:54:15):
Northwestern's not very good.
Give me Penn State 20 and a halfnext we got Arkansas headed to
Rocky Top a good old friend ofours named Bobby Petreto back on
the sidelines as an HC at RockyTop they got the over under set
at 68 and a half I'm gonna takethe under I honestly I just
don't see the points gettingscored not that high.

(01:54:37):
Maybe it does maybe we do have a40 to 35 tight game I don't see
it.
Give me an under 68 and a halfthat's a really high over under
next we got Clemson at BostonCollege that we picked Dabo last
week to thump Bill.
He's gonna thump Boston Collegetoo Dabo's on his revenge tour.
Dabbo back in the rankings letme get Clemson minus 13 and a

(01:54:57):
half on the spread next we got apeculiar game here South Florida
at North Texas.
Did a little research on NorthTexas not understanding why this
game's a pick them anyways ifthey want to give free money
take the free money uh SouthFlorida on the money line next
we got the Red River shootoutOklahoma at Texas it's bounce

(01:55:19):
back week baby let me get SarkinArch to get it done because I
know they said Mateira mightplay.
I don't think he's gonna play ifhe does play he's gonna be
playing injured Texas's back'sagainst the wall I'm gonna take
Texas on the money line outthere in Dallas.
Then finally we got the dogs atAuburn another curious line here
we're not gonna take the pointsbut we're just gonna take

(01:55:39):
Georgia on the money line Idon't think Auburn's better than
Georgia so give me Georgia allrighty so we got Penn State
minus 20 and a half Arkansas atTennessee under 68 and a half
Clemson minus 13 and a halfSouth Florida on the money line
Texas on the money line and UGAon the money line yep let's get
it ladies and gentlemen it istime for Parlay Peach NFL six

(01:56:10):
yeah and six six six this iswhat it's all about right so
we're gonna get into this reallyreally quickly all right we got
the chargers at the Dolphins 42and a half the overunder we're
gonna take the over i i meanmaybe the chargers come out
there and have a dominantdefense for us but I expect some
points to get scored especiallybecause the lack they're up for
the Chargers next we got theArizona Cardinals at the
Indianapolis Colts baffling lineminus six and a half Colts easy

(01:56:34):
money easy easy money next wegot Dallas at Carolina Panthers
I like Dallas minus two and ahalf Dax been playing like an
MVP I expect him to put uppoints Carolina is not good.
Next we got Seattle atJacksonville I'm drinking the
Kool-Aid let me get the Jaguarson the money line at home tough
spot for Seattle to have to goall the way down to
Jacksonville.
Next we got the New EnglandPatriots at the New Orleans

(01:56:57):
Saints I like under 47 and ahalf I don't see the Saints
score very many points but theSaints defense is kind of their
best thing about that team.
And then finally I know I saidthree weeks ago that I wouldn't
do this again but goddamn thespirit is in me.
Buffalo Bills at the AtlantaFalcons we're gonna take the
Falcons money line I think theFalcons are going to win this
game.

SPEAKER_01 (01:57:18):
I like the Falcons all right so we've got uh
Chargers at Dolphins over 42 anda half Colts minus six and a
half Dallas minus two and a halfJags on the money line Patriots
and Saints under what's thatnumber on that under 47 and a
half under 47 and a half and theFalcons on the money line well I

(01:57:40):
know you like that.

SPEAKER_04 (01:57:42):
Well I liked it so that means that you love it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:57:45):
If you like it then I love it.
And that means it's time forLee's three three please three
yeah so for Leeds three thisweek is actually uh pretty
difficult uh but I'm gonna takeTexas on the money line I like
Texas on the money line a lot uhI'm also gonna take the Colts

(01:58:06):
minus six and a half theCardinals aren't as good as I
thought they would oh they'rejust not a good team bro and
then uh finally let me get theCowboys uh minus two and a half
uh I like that number for Dallasuh Dax been killing shit and
yeah they can win by field goalwe love it we love it well we've

(01:58:26):
got about a minute and a halfhere Lee I think it's time to
see what AC Lee and Parley Petegot something to say uh what do
I have to say hey man we shouldcare more about the government
shutdown than Cardi B and NickiMinaj Black America like know
what's going on and know howit's affecting our communities
and be more active a lot ofvoters in Georgia if you haven't

(01:58:48):
voted in like the in so manyvoting cycles you uh lose your
registration so make sure youknow your status and get
registered to vote beautifullybeautifully put uh with my 30
seconds here I'm gonna go aheadand let everybody know the new
app Sora it is the fuckingwildest shit anyone that's been
paying attention to the page sawthat we put up Tupac Shakor

(01:59:10):
giving us a nice little shoutout that's what he listens to
when he's in the car uh downthere in uh Havana but uh yeah
crazy app anyone that hasn'theard about it it's gonna blow
up soon it's just like TikTokbut with AI videos it's insane
yeah and we'll probably have adeeper sore conversation later
but uh hey parlay Pete greatshow buddy hey fantastic show

(01:59:32):
salutations good people allright big dog all right brother

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