Two Fed-Up Falcons Fans Break Down a Win, a QB Debate, and a League Full of Drama

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SPEAKER_04 (00:40):
Hi, Parley Pete.

SPEAKER_05 (00:42):
That's Rich McKay to you.
The parody account.
Yeah, basically.
That's that's kind of what we'redoing right this second.

SPEAKER_04 (00:53):
Hey, as a disclaimer, this is not Rich
McKay.
This is a podcast of two Falconsfans who are fed up.
And uh we wanted Rich to behere, a fake Rich, you know,
full Rich.

SPEAKER_06 (01:05):
Well, he really runs this account.
He really runs this podcast ifyou you let anyone else uh know
about it.
I mean, he drives the first hourof content every week.
He does, and guess what?
Hold on.
While we're talking, onlybecause I'm I've I've I think I
have a breakthrough on my end,so I think everybody'll get to
see me at not rich.

(01:25):
But hold on, I'm literallyputting it together.
But how are we doing today, Lee?
Ah man, not too bad.
Put in a hard day's work.
I got a funny work story foryou.
You're working man these days.
You're you're as blue-collar asit gets.

SPEAKER_04 (01:41):
But let me tell you, I have to stretch and rub my
feet every night.
Uh, because uh yeah, nah,throwing them boxes takes a toll
on you.

SPEAKER_06 (01:52):
Well, let me tell you, it's an honest day is
living, and at the end of theday, it's better it's better to
be doing that than nothing.

SPEAKER_04 (02:01):
Absolutely.
So I'm doing my job todaytalking to this young lady
across from me.
You know, she's she seemedreserved, and you know, it
wasn't like flirty talk oranything.
It was just, hey, how you doing?
You know, try I mean, I gottalook at you for the next three
and a half hours.

(02:21):
Right.
I I don't want to sit here in siin silence.
So this other broad comes overthere, she was like, Don't you
date so-and-so-and-so?

SPEAKER_03 (02:33):
Uh she was like, Yeah, man, I saw him over there
with the uh with his palate jacktalking to so and so and so.
She has on this and that, and hewas smiling, and you know, he
don't never smile.

SPEAKER_06 (02:51):
That sounds like well, that sounds like some
workplace, like purposefullydone drama.
She sounds like the one that wasfucking more than anything.

SPEAKER_04 (03:00):
Just to see what the reaction was like, right, and so
the girl gets mad, and mind you,uh, neither one of them uh are
25.

SPEAKER_06 (03:13):
Okay.
Are they obviously they're over18, but like do you think that
they're above 21?
In that actually, in a weirdway, it matters a little.

SPEAKER_04 (03:25):
One the one who came with the story was I think 22,
and the one who was thegirlfriend is 20.

SPEAKER_05 (03:34):
Okay.

SPEAKER_04 (03:36):
So it's me and a an older lady there.
And we're like, hey man, don'tman, it's bro, it's work.
It ain't nothing.
She may have stopped and wastalking to him, and she may have
just said something funny, andhe was laughing.
Like, people be talking.
It it's it's nothing.
Like, it's right at work,chilling.

(03:59):
And she was like, and and thenthe girl, the messy girl was
like, Well, you know how youknow how they be, they don't
want you talking to no nigga.
Right.
My my nigga can't talk to nogirl at work.
And I'm like, Don't y'all knowpeople go to work and flirt?
Hey, you have your officegirlfriend and stuff, like you

(04:19):
flirt, uh uh it ain't nothing.
And then you go home to theperson you're with.
It's very common in the in theworkplace.
Oh, you just trying to take upfor him because you a nigga.
I'm like, well, yes, but two,no, I'm an adult and I've lived
so I understand that you know,some of the like, let's not trip

(04:42):
about this.
It's not a big deal.

SPEAKER_11 (04:55):
You're muted.
I'll tell you this guy.
You're muted.
Yeah, you're on mute, man.

SPEAKER_06 (05:15):
All right, we're good to go.

SPEAKER_04 (05:16):
All right, yeah.
So, anyways, we finally got thepeople that are viewing this
live early.

SPEAKER_06 (05:22):
This is a lot of fucked up shit going on on my
end.

SPEAKER_04 (05:26):
That's what she said.

SPEAKER_06 (05:28):
They say that all the time.

SPEAKER_04 (05:32):
No, they don't.
That's because that's countaccountability.

SPEAKER_06 (05:36):
You know what?
There's a video I'm gonna sendyou that we didn't talk about in
pre-production.
Uh, it's uh something Davis.
He's a comedian.
Ha ha Davis.
Nah, it's it's not ha ha davis.
That I forgot the nigga's name.
I liked it on Twitter.
But he and I'm not gonna go intogreat detail, but basically he

(05:59):
breaks down just how marriageand stuff, like not just
marriage, but just in general,just the life of a nigga and how
like this stuff works.
And it's like, you know, he'snot lying.
Like, he's not lying.

SPEAKER_04 (06:11):
He was on stage, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (06:13):
But it's not ha ha davis, though.

SPEAKER_04 (06:15):
No, no, no, no, no, I know.
I I I think I think I saw ittoo.
Uh, I got a question.

SPEAKER_06 (06:19):
That's a laughing factor.

SPEAKER_04 (06:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think I yeah, I had it on mystory this week.

SPEAKER_06 (06:25):
Story maybe and maybe I did get it from you.
It wasn't ha Davis, but his lastname.

SPEAKER_04 (06:30):
No, it wasn't.
Oh yeah, yeah, I know who you'retalking about.
I don't I don't know his name.

SPEAKER_06 (06:33):
He's telling the fucking truth, though, brother.
Oh, god you yeah, yeah, he getsit.
He's somebody that gets it.

SPEAKER_04 (06:40):
Hey, so today, another quick work story, right?
Okay, you know, he whose name weshall not say, or his company.
Uh you know, open open policyallows any and everyone to to to
to work there, right?
Equal opportunity employer, asevery company should be.

SPEAKER_06 (07:02):
As everybody should be, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (07:03):
Yeah, so we got a little stud bud in there, you
know.

SPEAKER_06 (07:06):
Okay.

SPEAKER_04 (07:08):
And uh it appears that she's arguing with her her
girl, her wife, whatever.

SPEAKER_06 (07:12):
So they work together.

SPEAKER_04 (07:14):
No, she has an air, she has an air, she has an
airpod.
She has an airpod in.
So she's always yeah, and likewhere our line like where we're
working at, what no bosses overthere.

SPEAKER_05 (07:27):
Okay.

SPEAKER_04 (07:28):
And it's the end of the news.
Yeah.
So they arguing and and doingall this fussing and and back
and forth, and I was like, whoactually takes accountability in
lesbian con uh relationships?

SPEAKER_06 (07:48):
I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 (07:49):
I mean, especially if it's a stud and not a a a
trans, you know what I mean?
Trans man.

SPEAKER_06 (07:55):
I don't know.
I don't, I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 (08:01):
Like who who's like the the person in the couple,
like who doesn't speak whatthey're upset about because
they're just trying to keep thepeace.
Or that just them two just mywomen's tuition just made me
want to come talk to you aboutthis today.

SPEAKER_06 (08:19):
I would say I mean, you don't know.
I guess it depends on thepersonalities of the studs.
Now, normally though, moststuds, there are studs that were
are with studs, which as we seewith the stud buds, as we see
with I don't date each other.

(08:41):
They don't?

SPEAKER_04 (08:42):
No, I think they're just I think they're just
friends.

SPEAKER_06 (08:44):
Well, let's look at Alyssa Thomas and Head Dyke, and
um I know that's me saying this,it sounds so derogatory.
Got our and I actually I didn'tmean to say that.
HD.
Let me clarify my comments.
It's Thanksgiving.
Give me a break.

SPEAKER_04 (08:59):
Um, no what H D means.
We can't even use it anymore.

SPEAKER_06 (09:03):
Yeah, I know.
It's okay.
No, it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_04 (09:05):
Hey, you know what?
Change it.
PD, touchdown.

SPEAKER_06 (09:08):
Yep, touchdown, and um Alyssa Bonner.
There you go.
They are they're married andthey're on the same team.
Think of that.
She forced her way out ofIndiana to get back there
because they were playingtogether in Connecticut, but
nonetheless, can you hear thatby the way?

SPEAKER_09 (09:27):
Yeah, yeah, you got a notification.

SPEAKER_06 (09:28):
It's all the it's all this stuff.
My bad.
For everybody here here, I amreally fucking up here early.
But yeah, I we'll live, we'lllive.
Jesus Christ.
Hold on.
They press continue on it thatway, because every time I press
close, it just is doing it.
Okay, but point being they playtogether, so I didn't know.

(09:49):
I didn't know that they weren'ttogether, so they just do a
podcast together, and then likeyou know, that's just the way
that they work, I guess.
They work, they're friends.
Yes, yes, it'd be like we wereboth gay.
God damn it, it'd be like let'snot even imagine that.
Well, we're not, but that's thepoint.

(10:10):
That's how we could play with itbecause we're not, but like the
thing is, if we were gay, we'vegot a podcast together, we're
friends.
Obviously, we're not loversbecause we're not gay, but like
at the city will we be thebottom buds or the bottom boys,
or be the top dogs.
I don't know what we would be,Lee.

(10:30):
I'm not about to think about itbecause we're not that, but
like, but what I will thinkabout is I think top dogs is a
good one, dogs on top, yeah.
Dog dogs on top, but then we'dalmost have to kind of be we
don't have to be a Georgiapodcast.
We are kind of a Georgia.
We're not when I say Georgia, Idon't I mean like explicitly
Georgia, yeah.
You don't have to be explicitlyUGA, but we're we do two gay

(10:52):
guys talking Georgia, yeah.
And I'm sure that we'll get to alittle bit later here.
Uh a little bit of high schoolfootball.
I know that I didn't we didn'tput this in the pre-production,
but I know you know whathappened out there in
Gainesville.
Um, because that's been a bigtalking point for GHSA.
No, I don't know.
Oh, well, we'll get to it.
I'll surprise it at the end.

(11:13):
Um, that's what she said.
Anywho, my point is this studbuds, I didn't know that they
weren't married.
Continue on with your point.

SPEAKER_04 (11:25):
Oh, I was just making a joke.
Because, you know, we're uh twomen on a podcast, so we have to
be misogynist, right?

SPEAKER_06 (11:33):
Somebody said, Is that P.
Diddy here in the comments onYouTube?
And it's so funny because Iactually used to get called P.
Diddy in high school.
I a lot of people call me Pie,but P.
Diddy.
No, seriously, it was thenickname.

SPEAKER_04 (11:47):
No, no, no, I can see it because you're a pierce,
yeah.
P.
Diddy, it was funny.

SPEAKER_06 (11:50):
But I'm thinking, I'm like, well, it's nobody that
I went to high school with,there's no way.

SPEAKER_04 (11:54):
But anywho, were you throwing Diddy parties?

SPEAKER_06 (11:58):
I threw one, but it wasn't, and it was actually down
here because again, I'm shootingin my dad's basement now because
it made more sense to shoot hereas opposed to going back to my
house.
So I'm shooting here.
Wow, we just jumped up in a lotof viewership here as well.
I don't know if you can seethat, but nonetheless, um, yeah,

(12:20):
yeah.
So I think we should hop intoFalcons first because right now
we are um we are all here to dowhat hey man, hey, winning week,
falcons first, winning week,man.

(12:41):
It's been what almost a month,it's been over a month.
Correct?

SPEAKER_04 (12:46):
Yeah, I I mean I I don't even early October.

SPEAKER_06 (12:49):
When was that Bill's game?

SPEAKER_04 (12:50):
Early October, uh, yeah, before homecoming.

SPEAKER_06 (12:58):
So there you go.
I mean, that says enough.
It's literally will be Decemberuh on Monday.

SPEAKER_08 (13:05):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (13:06):
So I enough said.
Um when we spoke about this alittle earlier, which hey, and I
haven't got to publiclyapologize or tell you when you
call you called me on Sunday.
So I was with Jude.
No, no, no, no.
What it was was that we wereliterally, so I was with him at

(13:27):
McCrae's.
We went to McCrae's, and like Iwas in the middle, there was a
it was a I was talking tosomebody at our table who was a
part of the Julian Turner sideof the party.
We were talking, I said, here,I'm gonna call him back.
Because we were basically tryingto break this stuff down, and

(13:48):
bro, it just went from one thingto another because Mariana was
with me too.
Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_04 (13:53):
I here, so here's what happened.
I called you right as likehalftime hit.

SPEAKER_06 (13:59):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (14:01):
And I did not know I truly meant to call you back.
Yeah, I know.
I just I didn't know you werewith Julian yet, but I I I saw
it shortly thereafter, juststory scrolling.
But I also knew that I was like,oh, he started talking, then
halftime was over, then niggasforget, bro.

(14:23):
Now it's three hours later.

SPEAKER_06 (14:26):
Yeah, we what it was it's just we were talking, and
then from there, I I meant tocall back, but then the food
came.
Like, it was just like a lot ofstuff that like staggered.
So I publicly apologize becauseseriously, I did mean to, but
like uh thank you.
No, I just didn't want you tothink I was ignoring you, like
you know, like I wouldn't I knowthat you don't feel I know that

(14:48):
you know it'd be like if I callyou and then you know what I
mean.

SPEAKER_04 (14:52):
Like so I'm not you know I'm not your I'm not your
girl, you know.
I don't trust if you don'tanswer my call.

SPEAKER_06 (14:57):
Well, but but but but I don't have a girl, and
more importantly, I value ourfriendship that much.
So I just meant to, you know, Iappreciate that, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 (15:08):
So but yeah, yeah, yeah, we beat the Saints.

SPEAKER_06 (15:15):
Whoop-dee-doo.
What is it?
What does it all mean, Basil?
I mean, like my thing is seven,yeah.
I don't want to, I don't want touh overreact to beating a bad
team with a rookie quarterbackin the third year that nobody
expected to be good to beginwith.

(15:35):
So that that's kind of like justmy feeling from it.
I'm not mad at the execution.
They scored 10 points and one ofthem came on a pick six.
So it's like they didn't reallydo anything.
We held them two different timeson uh fourth down.
They did miss two field goals,which is why Justin Tucker got a
trial this week.
Like, so like these are thingsthat everybody we can't we gotta

(15:58):
hold our horses.
If we beat the Saints again, ifwe beat the Saints 31-10 on
Sunday, I still am not no, I'llwait until we win that game, and
then let's say we beat Seattlethe next week and then we're
500, or we're we're a game below500 because it's the the

(16:18):
Panthers are gonna lose thisweek, and the Bucs could lose if
Baker doesn't play, then I'lltalk.
Then we can have some let's notput that in the atmosphere.

SPEAKER_04 (16:29):
Baker's playing.
Yeah, I bet you would like that,wouldn't you?

SPEAKER_06 (16:34):
I mean, I would like from the You got a number one
seed at stake that only I cantake.
You lose the truth.
If if you lose and I win, I'mgonna be the number one seed.

SPEAKER_04 (16:46):
I'm well aware, and then I go from uh you'll be the
three, it'll depend on whathappens, and I won't have a buy.

SPEAKER_06 (16:53):
Well, Gambles is playing Nico, so that will
dictate that side of get back tothe Falcons.

SPEAKER_04 (17:02):
Let's get back to the Falcons.

SPEAKER_06 (17:03):
We're gonna get into fancy too, because it actually
this is an important week totalk about it.
It is, it is, and you weretalking about that shit
yesterday, so it was just a acomment, it was a throwaway
comment.
No, it wasn't.
I caught it, so you're like, I'min first place anyway.
This is like okay, nigga.

(17:25):
Yeah, Eric Boyd.
Hold on.
No, we're gonna pauseFalconster.
Eric Boyd, you play Boyd thisweek, yeah.
So this is because me and Justinhave already talked about it.
Justice plays JP.
If Justice beats JP, justice isgonna be the last.
Because pretty much Matt andGambles, even though they're not

(17:45):
officially clinched, they're in.
Because the only reason they'renot even 100% in is because of
points, like tiebreakers.
They're in.
It would take a like somebodyhas to score like 200 points for
them to get out.
They're in.
Matt's in the playoffs.
Yeah, Matt's in.
But if Justice beats JP, it'llbe justice that gets the last

(18:08):
spot, which means the if youlose and I win, you're gonna
play justice, is what thatmeans.
If if justice loses, you playjustice, he wins, he needs he
needs boyd to lose.
Because boyd is that like boydhas like 40 points on JP.

(18:30):
So he JP would have to not onlybeat Justice, but outscore Boyd
by 40 in a tiebreaker, or Boydhas to lose.
Which but I'm saying if Boydwins and justice wins, justice
has like a 40-point advantage onBoyd.
So it's basically he's bothwe're both me and JP are rooting

(18:53):
for Boyd against you fordifferent reasons.
He needs it because even if evenif JP beats Justice, Boyd has to
lose to you.
No, so he's rooting for you, butBoyd is rooting for justice, and
I am rooting for Boyd.

SPEAKER_04 (19:12):
I mean, but what you're rooting for, selfish,
you're in the playoffs.

SPEAKER_06 (19:16):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I'd like to have a bye.
And that would mean technicallyI have the best record because
you're either gonna be the oneseed or the three seed.
We're pretty much there at thatpoint.
We're gonna it's gonna either beeither I'm the one or the like
that's what we're fighting forthis week.
But it's great because we have apodcast together, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (19:38):
But also, isn't this how the league isn't this how
the league should be based onwho understands the game?

SPEAKER_06 (19:47):
Understands the game and understands everything, even
about fantasy football, besidesMatt Flowers.
But from a knowledge standpoint,yes, yeah.
But Nico's in, he's a Raidersfan.
Not that look, all of our teamsare bad, except Josh, even
though they're a bad eight andthree football team.
That's a bad eight and three,and we'll get to them once we
recap.

(20:09):
But that's a bad eight and threefootball team, right?
But but none of our team, JP,everybody, they're they're
commanders fans, like Jew is aSteelers fan, like everybody's
saying none of our teams aredogs, nobody's a ramp.
I guess gambles is a Patriotsfan, but but nobody thinks that
the Patriots can win the SuperBowl.

SPEAKER_04 (20:27):
And does anybody respect Gamble?
I don't say respect.

SPEAKER_06 (20:31):
I respect Gambles, obviously, but like yeah, yeah,
godly.

SPEAKER_04 (20:35):
I have the yeah, utmost respect for him.
But who's going for to gamblesfor the sports takes?

SPEAKER_06 (20:40):
Nobody, yeah, nobody, nobody, nobody's calling
him on um Sunday morning andsaying, What are your bets?
You know, like Lee, I get callsevery Sunday.

SPEAKER_04 (20:51):
I I've been with you on many Sundays.

SPEAKER_06 (20:53):
Whether it's from Julian Turner, it doesn't even
matter if it's Jew, it's otherpeople.
I man, a lot of people hit me upabout this stuff.

SPEAKER_04 (21:00):
I've been with you on Sundays, yeah.
You know, Gambles is a blackBoston sports fan.

SPEAKER_06 (21:07):
That isn't from Boston, yeah.
He's from Pensacola, Florida.
You would think he'd be aBuccaneers fan, right?
But like, or even a Saint.
I mean, I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 (21:18):
Or even an Eagles fan like Josh Holsey.

SPEAKER_06 (21:20):
Well, I know Josh is from Pensacola technically, but
like Josh to me, because he grewup in Tennessee, he he went to
high school in Tennessee.
I would think Titans.
I know he liked Steve McNair,but it's like why Donovan
McNabb, why Buck Holse guys?

SPEAKER_04 (21:42):
Yeah, like who's his baseball team?

SPEAKER_06 (21:45):
He didn't have one.
You know, Josh doesn't watchbaseball.
He'll probably be a Rockies fanor a Padres fan now, but like
he's not a fan of either ofthose teams.

SPEAKER_04 (21:54):
Does Josh Holsey wear fitted hat?

SPEAKER_06 (21:57):
I've never seen him wear one.
No, he doesn't really wear hats.
I've seen him in a polo hatbefore.
Have I?
I've never seen Josh in a hatlook.
I mean, yeah, maybe a polo, butlike yeah, he's not a hat.
The more and more I think, see,I'm a hat guy.
Like, I you every time you seeme, I probably have a hat on.

(22:18):
And I have great hair too, butlike I just don't hair, dude.
No, I just like to wear, I justlike wearing hats.
Like, I'm a hat guy.

SPEAKER_04 (22:27):
You look like a sleaze ball in those glasses.

SPEAKER_06 (22:30):
Well, I've worn them before.
This isn't my first time.

SPEAKER_04 (22:32):
We could I I like them.
They look like they should betransition frames, but they're
not, and you know, any niggawith transition frames on inside
is just not to be trusted.

SPEAKER_06 (22:45):
Well, it's Thanksgiving, I've been
drinking, so I'd love to wearsome shades for this type of an
occasion, and maybe I'm a littlehelpful to the viewers.

SPEAKER_04 (22:54):
I don't know, but let's let's get back to
something that'll make you drinkthose Atlanta Falcons.
So Kirk Cousins with a full weekof preparation, looked like a
professional quarterback.
Uh the offense, we we ran theball, we got under center.
Uh, we play action from undercenter.
Uh, we were really good in theplay action from under center.

(23:16):
Uh was Kirk's injury last didKirk's injury last year speed up
the Michael Penix timeline.
And because he showed flasheslast year and the fan base was
so out on Kirk that Kirk didn'teven have a shot to beat him for
the job this year when I'mpretty sure I said it on here.

(23:37):
Kirk Cousins is probably thebetter quarterback on the
roster.

SPEAKER_06 (23:43):
Uh Lee, and this is where the argument comes in,
right?
I asked the question.
I didn't make it.
I didn't make it, but this iswhere it comes in.
We signed Kirk for a reason.
Okay, we drafted Penix for adeeper reason, and the idea,

(24:06):
because this is at least when ithappened, what I thought was
that Kirk Cousins, that's why hegot the two years heavily at
three guaranteed, but two wherea majority of the money was
there.
But they also planned for theworst in that case scenario,
kind of, because they can cutbait after this year, but we

(24:30):
wanted Kirk Cousins to be thequarterback for two years.
I think that that's what theplan was.
The plan was always for him tobe here for two, and that it be
more of a Jordan Love thing,where and Jordan Love sat for
three years, yeah, but like, andso did Aaron Rodgers.
Like, so like I think that thatwas what we wanted.

(24:51):
It didn't work that way becauseof Kirk's injury that he didn't
want to admit, nor did Raheem oranyone on the medical team,
because everybody acted like hewasn't hurt.
We visibly could see that he washurt, and I think coming off
that bye when we were six andfive against uh the Chargers was

(25:13):
the game, if there was any, topull the plug then.
Yeah, but that's not whathappened, and that's okay, like
everything happens for a reason.

SPEAKER_04 (25:21):
So, do you think Kirk is better than Penix today?

SPEAKER_06 (25:27):
I disagree.
No, I I'm asking, I'm not makinga statement.
No, I do I no, I don't becausemy reason is this I think we
need to see more of Kirk Cousinsnow.
That will determine it.
If Kirk Cousins goes, becauseremember, Kirk did start against

(25:48):
the Dolphins at home.
A team that would literally, ifthey won the game, Coach gets
fired.
I promise you that McDanielsgets fired if they lose that
game.
They didn't, they won, and nowthey won like three of their
last four.
So that changed the trajectoryof even a franchise on the other
side that has nothing to do withus.

(26:10):
I think that with Penix, Penixwas playing great in the
Carolina game.
And then even when Cousins camein, we were up two touchdowns
and we lost.
So it's like we beat a Saintsteam that's not good, and that's
why I call it overreactionMonday.
It is overreaction Monday.
I don't think that I'm notsaying that Kirk Cousins didn't

(26:31):
play well, and I'm not sayingthat offensively the game plan
wasn't solid.
What I'm saying is this if youlook at everything, the defense
balled out, they had anothergame, which hey, week two after
the Vikings game, by the way.
We said Sack Lena, yeah.
Nigga, are we not on spot onwith that right today?

(26:54):
Today, does that is that not afucking are we not like profits
at this point with that?

SPEAKER_04 (26:59):
Well, we got like five sacks.

SPEAKER_06 (27:09):
Which we'll get to that when we recap real quick.

SPEAKER_04 (27:11):
But like Josh Holty, we get some things right over
here, buddy.

SPEAKER_06 (27:15):
Yeah, but but I think justice was one of the
people that didn't agree withit, and now this is just inner
people, so I can't speak aboutanyone else because maybe our
footprint's not big enough foreverybody to hear our takes, but
there were people that did agreedisagree with uh what it is that
we were saying, and I was like,Are we sack language?

(27:36):
Like, literally, we named one ofthe podcasts that because it's
like, Are we sack language?
And I think that uh doubled onTondra.
Man, we are though.

SPEAKER_04 (27:46):
I guess and the team's a sack of shit.

SPEAKER_06 (27:51):
Well, triple then because Atlanta niggas get
sacks, they got sacks.
Oh, yeah, oh yeah, I gotta saynow, and they go and they like
and they like to go to sack.

SPEAKER_04 (28:01):
Yeah, that might be quite true.

SPEAKER_03 (28:05):
Yeah, if you want to take it that far, but yeah, man,
we might be we might be usingthese mics for the wrong thing.
We might need to start spitting.

SPEAKER_06 (28:14):
Boy, that's a that's a double at that point, Lee.
I I'm not gonna get too far intothat, but what I will say is
this new Kung Fu Kenny, yeah.
I was gonna say, where's theKung Fu Kenny drop?
Yeah, yeah, that was crazy.
But uh, but what I will say isthis they look good.
Kirk Cousins certainly on thatdeep ball to the moon ball.

(28:36):
It was great, man.
It was great, it was great.
I think that um it was greatmomentum to go into a game
against a team that you shouldbeat again.
And the Falcons were underdogsuh in that Saints game, and
everybody did really pick theSaints.
I was on board with it, I didn'tbet it, but like I was on board

(28:58):
with it.

SPEAKER_04 (28:59):
I started their defense in one of my other
leagues, the Saints, yeah.
It's tough, but but you know,but that goes to show how fed up
Nick.

SPEAKER_06 (29:09):
Yeah, like you're fed up, you're fed up with it.

SPEAKER_04 (29:12):
Hey, and parlay Pete, no disrespect, but nothing
that you said, nothing that I'vesaid matters.
If come April, that guy whostarted on this podcast is still
employed by this team we'retalking about.
Well, in that debate anythingshort of a Super Bowl we're not

(29:36):
getting a Super Bowl.
Hear me out.
Anything short of a Super Bowl,if that guy's back, nothing
matters.
You know, and and a Super Bowlmay retire his ass.
But we won't get one becausehe's here.

SPEAKER_06 (30:00):
Now, and and and I think that that's our again,
that's why we started off thispodcast with that photo, why you
chose that photo.
At the end of the day, whatwould you say hinders this team
more than anything?
Because if anyone is if we'reriding a high by beating the
Saints, what's hinders the teamthen?

(30:23):
Because is it Michael Penix?
A lot of people could say, well,Michael Penix, is he not
comfortable under center?
Because Kirk Cousins did comefrom under center.
That touchdown to Mooney.
Yeah, it was everything thatwe've been wanting, but it's the
same thing with Penix.
The idea was that well, playaction pass works for both of
these guys, one way or another.

SPEAKER_02 (30:42):
Yeah, but the pistol doesn't.

SPEAKER_06 (30:44):
So then why are we running the pistol?
Which I yes, we know that ZachZach Robinson will not Lee.
I am here today.
We will never do this podcastagain if Zach Robinson is the
offensive coordinator next week.
I'm willing to make thatproclamation.
And all right, tell you, notnever again.
But if he's the OC next year,then brother, you got to find a

(31:06):
new partner or you got to makethis the solo show.
Because I'm willing to lay thaton the line because I know that
it's not gonna happen.
You know what I'm saying?
He won't be here.
I don't think if we went out, Idon't even think he was gonna be
here.
Because Oklahoma State did hiretheir coach.
Yeah, he's really there now.

SPEAKER_04 (31:27):
He's gonna need an OC though.

SPEAKER_06 (31:31):
And I think that he'll be waiting in the wings
for if he gets fired.
But like we will, I will not beon this show next year if he's
here, and we can play it back,and maybe I'll take it back.
I highly doubt I will, but likethen we just won't do the show
because what if we just get ridof the segment?

(31:52):
Yeah, you know, we could do thattoo, and just not talk Falcons
ball ever.
Yeah, no, if if yeah, likeyou'll have like that shit in
the background, you'll bedowntown, like you'll like
nigga.
I'll be wearing a Falcons hat.
I mean, there'll be a lot ofFalcon shit around.
They'll be like, Man, you guysnever want to talk about the
Falcons with your fans, and I'llbe like, Yep.
Oh we won't, I'll tell you what,I'll change it because yeah, I

(32:15):
don't want to say we won't dothis.
I don't think it's gonna happenone way or another.

SPEAKER_04 (32:21):
I think they he's hey, but I say I say I say what
we can do is Falcons' firstsegment does uh goes away if he
comes back, and the Falcons willonly be mentioned if like it's a
real storyline, not a we want totalk about them.

SPEAKER_06 (32:38):
It'll be good uh uh content as well.
Because I mean, yeah, for onethe people on Twitter when
they're like, I won't tweetagain until such and such does
this, and then there's I don'teven know where that video comes
from, but it's a guy that's likesleep, and then and then then
the music plays ready or not.
Here I come, and he's likebreathing like in his bed.

(33:00):
They're like, I won't tweetagain until Russell Westbrook
gets a triple double, like it'llbe like people.
I don't know how often you're onTwitter, but that's how they do
it.

SPEAKER_04 (33:10):
I think they call it X now.

SPEAKER_06 (33:12):
Okay, well, I still call it Twitter.

SPEAKER_04 (33:16):
Um yeah, I we're done with the Falcons.

SPEAKER_06 (33:19):
No, no, no, no, no.
I did want to say one more thingabout the Falcons.
I'm glad that they beat theSaints because you know, a one
Courtney George who should havebeen on this show last week,
she's been a past guest.
Uh, some of you may know her.
I will not say for why you knowher, but it's not porn.

SPEAKER_04 (33:38):
It isn't porn, but well, no, because you just like
left.

SPEAKER_06 (33:43):
She texted like the morning of slash day before, and
she sent me a video of like MattRyan getting like stiff arm.
You remember that intercept?
It was like Thanksgiving orsomething, yeah.
Which Thanksgiving is tomorrow,and I know we'll get to what
we're thankful for later on inthe show, but like uh she sent
it to me, and I'm like, okay,and then I sent her.

(34:06):
I have a video on my page thatI've had for years.
I sent that to her because shewas with me at a game in the
suite, and she got to it waslike a season opener, she got to
uh you know, battery had her upin the suite, huh?
Yeah, well it was her, and thenin the video is Danica as well.
Danica's uh one of Laris's goodfriends, she's from New Orleans

(34:28):
since I was a kid.
She's a huge Saint fan, sheloves to talk shit to me too.

SPEAKER_04 (34:33):
But like say, hey, yeah, you just come on up to the
suite, no biggie.

SPEAKER_06 (34:37):
She did, she did, but that's why I have such a
good relationship with hermother as well.
You know, let me tell you,there's only one thing that
holds me back from marrying aCourtney George, and it's not
her even being a Saints.

(34:58):
And I'll leave it at that.
Because we actually have a verygood chemistry together, but I
just it's it's okay.
Like, I'm better off friendswith her, anyways, but like, you
know, I like our friends more.

SPEAKER_04 (35:16):
I could have said something so funny.

SPEAKER_06 (35:19):
Well, you should know exactly why.
Why I said what I just said.

SPEAKER_04 (35:25):
Yeah, I know.
Anywho, something about thosedamn brothers.

SPEAKER_06 (35:34):
Well, it's not a blood brother.

SPEAKER_04 (35:36):
No, no, uh, you know, it's just that whole, you
know, those Eskimo things, youknow, those brothers.

SPEAKER_06 (35:43):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's cold, bro.
It's cold.

SPEAKER_04 (35:46):
Yeah, no, I wasn't suggesting anything like
anything.

SPEAKER_06 (35:49):
But I'm just saying, the Eskimos cold, it's cold.

SPEAKER_04 (35:52):
But nah, shout out to her friends.

SPEAKER_06 (35:54):
I I I can I can't, they're very attractive women.

SPEAKER_04 (35:58):
I can second that one.
They're very attractive women,but um, um, man, let's get to
the week, and I want to open itup with you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_06 (36:09):
Okay, hold on.
You see him?
Were there a specific one thatyou did want to start with?
Because here I've got it pulledup now.
I'm looking at it.

SPEAKER_10 (36:17):
Yeah, you see him.

SPEAKER_06 (36:19):
See who you see him.
Oh, Shador.
Yeah, I tell you what.
Now, here's the thing, yeah.
Cause yeah, actually, he's aperfect game to start with.
It was a meaningless game interms of a betting slate for
some, and then just overall,it's too bad.
It's two teams that aren't goingto playoffs, so nobody really

(36:39):
cares.
But it was Shador's debut,something that I think that as a
starter, we were all waiting tosee.
And he didn't disappoint at theend of the day.
People can hate as much as theywant.
He's 11 to 20.
I know he threw for 200 plus.
He had a touchdown, he didn'thave any turnovers.

(37:00):
And my favorite part, well, nosacks either.
No, he had one.
Oh, one, sorry, yeah, one, butjust one for three yards.
Now, my favorite part about itwas you sending that video
yesterday with the QBR thing.
Now, I've never taken QBRseriously because it was a stat
that was come.
I didn't realize ESPN, but likeI remember when ESPN made it.

(37:24):
I thought it was an official NFLstat.

SPEAKER_04 (37:27):
They made it an official stat because they made
it and they made the people onthe network use it, and now
those people have left ESPN andgone in other places, and QBR is
just a part of what they use,and they're all respectable
people.
So if they're using it, youknow, it's Cal Hurts, Kip
Bayless, uh uh Rocillo, Simmons,all these people are referencing

(37:49):
QBR.
Oh, well, this is some goodshit.
So then it becomes somethingthat people use, right?
It's supposed to be better thanquarterback rating or passer
rating, excuse me.

SPEAKER_06 (38:00):
Yeah, and so I think that uh overall, good for you,
bud.
You know what I mean?
I it it's one of those thingswhere I agree that it's it
nobody should use that as areference point for betting for
how they view a quarterback oranything, because again, he

(38:20):
brought up DTR.
Well, I thought the DTR thingwas the most eye-opening,
obviously, because we've watchedwe watched him play too.
He's garbage.
For one, they won the game, theywon the game comfortably.
It wasn't like a game-winningfield goal game either.
Like that, I mean, and granted,they had 10 seconds, like the
defense was great because theBrowns have a good defense, but

(38:44):
that doesn't shouldn't shit onShador.
Shador, I didn't watch theentire game, but I did I it was
on I was watching the FalconSaints, but like it was on, and
I was obviously watching it inMcCray's, like, so this is what
I think, and I loved it becausehe kept throwing when he did get
those deep balls, it like set upJutkins to get the touchdowns,

(39:08):
which is you know, it helps mein fantasy, which we'll get to
that once we um probably finishup the recap.

SPEAKER_04 (39:15):
So, do you think Stefanski should have already,
you know, pulled the score?

SPEAKER_06 (39:23):
Well, this was the issue.
They acted like they wanted tocompete by saying Joe Flacco is
the quarterback for six or sevenweeks, and the reality was was
that even with Joe Flacco, theywere never gonna compete, even
with that defense, they justweren't Flacco and what he did
when they went to the playoffs,he took over an offense and they

(39:46):
won and they got to theplayoffs.

SPEAKER_04 (39:48):
They won 11 games that year, but like yeah, but
no, they weren't they weren'ttrying to compete with Flacco
and he was like five and two.
Yeah, but but yeah, but no, no,no.
They knew that neither one ofthem was ready.
They didn't want to just throwhim out there, break their
confidence.

SPEAKER_06 (40:04):
Don't don't don't start him as long as you did, is
my thought.

SPEAKER_04 (40:07):
No, hold on, but hold on, but then they let
Flacco start.
Flacco got got to go throughcamp with them.
He already knew the offense, sothey can watch the offense in
camp be ran properly.
Because if Flacco's not there,they're not watching the offense
being ran right by somebody whoknows it.

SPEAKER_06 (40:26):
But but this is the issue.
If he knew it already, let's atleast get them reps.
Why weren't they getting reps?
Because that was the biggesttalking point of Shador, right?
What he said was Hold on, I gotit.

SPEAKER_04 (40:39):
I got it, I got it right here.

SPEAKER_06 (40:41):
Go ahead, play it real quick.

SPEAKER_00 (40:42):
Uh one week of practice, you know what I mean?
Just one week of practice.
So imagine you know what a fulloffseason looked like, it get
dangerous, but it's just a oneweek of practice, so I'm just
truly thankful, you know, thateverything happens.
Uh for one week, he should beable to do it.

SPEAKER_06 (40:58):
It should have been a quarterback competition, Lee.
Anyways, like, no offense toFlacco.
What was their if if every team,every team's goal is not to win
the Super Bowl, and I think thateverybody needs to realize that
too.
That that like the Saints didnot come into training camp
saying we're gonna win the SuperBowl.
No, they said it, but theydidn't mean it.

(41:19):
So with the Browns, it's thesame thing.
Everybody knew that they weren'twinning the Super Bowl with Joe
Flacco at 39, 40 years old.
Like, so why not let these guysat least get both of them?
I'm not just because of thething, like, why not they both
get reps?

SPEAKER_04 (41:36):
Because they're they're not, they probably
weren't ready.

SPEAKER_06 (41:39):
Like, hey, we're if they were that raw, then for
one, shador getting shador inthe fifth is one thing, but with
Dylan Gabriel in the third, yousaid this on uh the village vets
yesterday.
Why not use that capital forsomebody that potentially is a
starter, like we did, right?

(41:59):
With Watts, like yeah, you getstarted like because they could
have drafted Watts.
Like, I'm pretty sure that thatpick for Dylan Gabriel was
before ours, considering we gotit from the Rams.
So that would mean that theydrafted him over Watts.
I don't know what their safetyshit looks like, but he would
have added to a dominant defensewith that pass rush and and

(42:20):
everything that they have.
Why not just add a start or justan offensive start?
They don't have no receivers, itappears to me.

SPEAKER_09 (42:28):
So why not draft Isaiah?

SPEAKER_06 (42:31):
I mean, they did get Isaiah Bond later, but why not
draft another a receiver?
I can't think of just a receiveroff the top.

SPEAKER_04 (42:37):
But just in the third round, like if you're an
SEC football fan, you stillwatch the third round.

SPEAKER_06 (42:44):
Yeah, because N'Kobe Dean, like the fucking in
college football that year wentto the Eagles in the third
round.

SPEAKER_04 (42:55):
Yeah.
We drafted linebacker that roundtoo before them.

SPEAKER_06 (42:59):
But uh, you know, we did, we did, and he's been
injured, but he was also the butbut but yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (43:05):
But but let's not go down that rabbit hole.

SPEAKER_06 (43:07):
But point being finished with the Falcons.

SPEAKER_04 (43:09):
Well, yeah, but uh back to Shador.
I I didn't like the postgame.
He was niggerish, and I thinkpart of why he fell in the
draft, why maybe he didn't beatout uh Dylan Gabriel, why he's
covered the way in a certain waythat he's covered, and his his

(43:31):
fanboys.
I I get it.
Me and Parlay Pete don't have aproblem with the way that Shadur
acts as human beings.
He's normal.
It's normal to us, but asobservers of football media,
what uh front office people,former front office, what
coaches, former coaches say, wego, that does not work for

(43:54):
quarterback.
They don't like that atquarterback.
So you have to be JamarcusRussell, Cam Newton.
You have to be head andshoulders above everybody, that
it's undeniable for you to getthe chance.
When you are in a badquarterback draft and nothing
that you do is uh markedlybetter than anybody except for

(44:17):
maybe your your instinct andyour ability, like your deep
ball, maybe pedigree.
Yeah, and and I was gonna sayyour pedigree, the most
important thing, but nothingthat's just so much better, like
you didn't have the best arm.
You know, you're not six five.
You know, so sometimes it goesback to the Colin Kaepernick

(44:39):
shit, you know what I mean?
If you want these people's moneyyou have to conduct yourself in
the way that in a way that theyexpect you to.
And if not, uh you will betreated as such.
And we're not I'm not sayingit's to justify their treatment.

(45:02):
But I can also say but but Ialso say that what they're
asking for isn't inhumane, andwe all have biases, both
implicit and like fucking justovert biases, you know what I
mean?
And if you play into my negativebiases, I'm probably not gonna
fuck with you.
Like let's just make this ahuman thing.

(45:25):
Like we know kids in school whoweren't dumb, but the teachers
didn't like them, so they got introuble a lot.

SPEAKER_06 (45:31):
Or they were bad kids, but they were smart in a
certain type of way.

SPEAKER_04 (45:34):
Exactly.
And there were some good kids,really good kids, dumb as a
rock, but the teacher's gonnahelp them and make sure every
dog, personalities just arepersonalities.
Some of my best Marines, Ifucking hated them.

SPEAKER_09 (45:49):
Really?

SPEAKER_04 (45:50):
Yeah, I mean, you can be good at your job, but I
can still not like you.
You can still be a dick, or ourpersonalities just don't mesh.
And some of my favorite Marinessucked.
Didn't mean we wasn't cool.
So, like, personalities canmatter in these things, they

(46:12):
shouldn't.
And my feelings for people didnot affect how I evaluated them
as a supervisor.
Because the motherfuckers that Iliked it sucked.
Uh well, it showed.

SPEAKER_06 (46:22):
But see, you were biased.

SPEAKER_04 (46:26):
No, I would and who I would talk to and bullshit
with during the day, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (46:32):
Okay.

SPEAKER_04 (46:33):
And I mean, if there was a some question that had to
be asked, Lee.
I mean, if and if there was likesome bullshit, like, hey, we
need somebody to go dosomething, I'm either gonna send
like the new kids or the peoplethat I don't like.

SPEAKER_06 (46:49):
Hey, well, I I appreciate you for keeping it
real.

SPEAKER_04 (46:53):
But uh Yeah, no, shout out to Shadur.
Um, he obviously does notexecute he doesn't execute the
offense the way that Stefanskiwould like.
Uh not on schedule, but uh heyman, you're not your dad.
He gets to talk shit like that,and it doesn't matter.

(47:14):
You're not that, and I and Idon't mean and I'm not saying it
to say stop doing it.
You're not that guy, and I'm notsaying stop doing it, but mainly
to his fans, like, hey man, cany'all just accept that somebody
may not like that shit?
So fuck him.

SPEAKER_06 (47:29):
That's not me, but them.
Well, if anything, the fansshould realize it because of the
positions that they're in, thatthe reality of this world that
we live in is that I think a lotof us can do a lot more than uh
we've done, but if you don'thave that backing or that uh

(47:49):
that cosign or whatever, it'sgonna be a lot harder to do it.
The more and more cosign youget, the better you can look,
anyways.
And now there are some peoplethat do fumble that cosine, and
that's a part of life as well.
Like, you know what I mean?
If they get a second chance, SamDarnold, I like any of these

(48:10):
people, fourth chance, yeah.
I mean, nobody knows anyone'ssituations, so it's like it's
it's it's it's it's the walkinguh mile in my in my shoes for a
mile fucking simulation typething, it just it's it's hard to
say what anyone can do in anytype of situation, but there are

(48:34):
so many people out here that arewhether they're talented enough
or just if they have theopportunity, what they can do,
you know what I mean?
Like it's just I don't thinkthat it's fair to judge anyone
on that.
Now, sports are a differentanimal in the same beast, in the
sense of of course, nobody canlook at sports and not be

(48:56):
critical, even of greats, likeit just is a part of it, right?
Like anyone that has any type oflimelight, there's just gonna be
criticism.
But with him, he was gettingdealt a bad hand and not dealt a
bad hand from life, but built adead bad hand from the outside

(49:18):
looking in because of who he isalready, how he does conduct
himself, and the idea that hewasn't like that good, anyways,
because Arch Manning, what do wereally know about Arch Manning?
He was the highs and favorite,Texas was the number one team,
he fell flat on stage, he'spicked it up a lot recently.

(49:42):
Well, we'll get to that in thecollege page.

SPEAKER_04 (49:44):
But the point, but the point is, we don't know
anything about Arch Manningexcept for his pedigree, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (49:50):
Because it's the same thing with uh Shador in
reality.

SPEAKER_04 (49:57):
Yeah, but I mean, yeah, but hold on, that's not
the point I was making, is hiscamp is doing that on purpose
because they're quarterbacks,they understand what because you
know the quarterback talks tothe if you're the franchise guy,
you have a relationship with theowner.

SPEAKER_09 (50:14):
For sure.

SPEAKER_04 (50:15):
Everybody else doesn't, so you're an extension
of the owner.
So if you're not Fa you have toact a certain way, and the
Manning Art grooming art to actlike a quarterback.
Now, mind you, acting like aquarterback is total bullshit,
it's just some shit that theysay that has to be a thing.

(50:38):
And I think to some degree agood quarterback has to have
certain skills.
But when they say certainpersonalities don't work at
quarterback, look at the actualsample size.

SPEAKER_09 (50:49):
Okay.

SPEAKER_04 (50:50):
And then actually, if you pull if you peel back the
layers of all of these othergreat quarterbacks, and we learn
the truth about them and thelives that they live, that they
lead, there are someconsistencies, but there's shit
all over.
There's some probably churchfreaks who don't drink, some
health freaks, some fucking fatslobs who just pound beer all

(51:11):
season.
Some watch a lot of film, somewatch a little bit of film, some
are precise.
Like there's all these differentthings that can make a
quarterback good, and it's moreimportant to have a good coach,
quarterback, and GM mayor thannecessarily beat to act a
certain way, especially whenit's a crafted way that you're
acting, and that's notauthentically who you are,

(51:34):
because we saw how the Brownsreacted to Shador, they fuck
with dog.

SPEAKER_06 (51:39):
Yeah, and and I think that just in general, when
you think about that stuff, it'syou can't be a nigga because
ain't no owners niggas.
Has there ever been a successfulnigga quarterback that's lived
that stood the test of time?
Some could say Lamar as Lamar isnot even like a nigga nigga, and

(52:02):
he's the most successful to doit, huh?
Name me a more successful blackquarterback.

SPEAKER_02 (52:07):
You say he's not a nigga.

SPEAKER_06 (52:09):
I'm talking about everything that he does.
He's not though.

SPEAKER_07 (52:15):
I'm not sitting here, I'm not calling diamonds
and his shit, brother.

SPEAKER_06 (52:20):
No, I know you're not.
I'm saying he's a nigga.
He's not like bro, he's not he'snot doing what shador is doing,
he's not doing what Michael Dicklow-key used to do, like, he's
not doing that.

SPEAKER_04 (52:31):
No, Shador.
Like, Shador's annoying to me asa nigga, he does too much
because he's nigga.

SPEAKER_06 (52:38):
This is what I'm saying.
He's a nigga, though.
Like he's from he's from SouthFlorida, and like he just he a
nigga, but like he not that isnot, he don't conduct himself
that way.

SPEAKER_04 (52:51):
Well, yeah, no, no, no.
He he he's he's very classy, andand there's and I there's
nothing wrong with not beingclassy.
I think that can get into someof my views on Western
philosophy and and and culturalnorms, but you know, yeah, I
don't think that he's that bigof a nigga, I guess is what I'm

(53:13):
saying.
Yeah, yeah, no, I I agree withthat.
I I just thought like I don'tknow what I thought you were
saying by saying he's like not anigga.
It's like the fuck.
But yes, there haven't been manyquarterbacks that have been
successful with thatpersonality, but my counterpoint
would be not many players withthat personality while having

(53:35):
the skill set uh get theopportunity to play quarterback
at that level.
They reroute early.

SPEAKER_06 (53:43):
Yeah, you're you're you're you're you're look,
you're preaching to a choirright now, but because you
because go let's just be real.

SPEAKER_04 (53:52):
How many Lamar Jackson's uh were there years
ago?
How many Michael Vicks, Cam, youknow what I'm saying?
Like the hood the hood niggathat can just sling the ball a
country mile with terrible withterrible form and hasn't been
refined at all, hadn't seen aquarterback coach.
He learned how to throw the ballat the park.

SPEAKER_06 (54:10):
No, there's not very many, and there's not very many
that we would be able to sithere and speak of, but I think
that they become receivers, theybecome receivers, they they do a
lot of different things, and soI agree with you, but what I
will say is this is that Lamaris not a shador, and shador,

(54:38):
even to a degree, I think maybefrom a cultural phenomenon, it's
not Michael Vick, it just ain'tMichael Vick.
No, no, no, no, hold on.
Michael Vick was the number onepick.
Like, this is the other partabout it.
Like, Michael Vick could getaway with, but the dog fighting,
not to like act like that didn'thappen, but like he could kind
of get away with a lot of thatshit.
He flicked man, he flicked usoff.

(55:00):
When I say us, I mean literallywhen he flicked, I thought he
was flicking my mom off, damnnear.

SPEAKER_04 (55:07):
Like, but but hold on, you're we're talking about
cultural influence.

SPEAKER_06 (55:13):
That's what I'm saying, but I'm saying he could
get away with it because he'sthe number one pick.
Shador is an underdog culturalinf which how often do you have
an underdog?
Uh a uh in New York, right?
In New York, who was my man lastyear or two years ago?
Uh Davito, Italian, grew up inNew Jersey, quarterback, like

(55:38):
like like that was great for NewYork City.
When I say somebody like Shador,if you look at it, it's like
he's like an underdog nigga,though.
Which there's nothing.

SPEAKER_04 (55:52):
No, no, no, he's not.
No, the fuck he's not.

SPEAKER_06 (55:55):
He's not from the beating the odds, perfect
timing.

SPEAKER_03 (55:59):
Like, he ain't beat no fucking odds.
The nigga's a millionaire.
He was heats stop.

SPEAKER_06 (56:04):
Yes, no, underdog.

SPEAKER_03 (56:07):
Yeah, no, Deion Sanders' son is not ever a
fucking underdog.

SPEAKER_06 (56:12):
But I'm saying, I'm not.

SPEAKER_04 (56:13):
When I say the point that you're trying to make.
And no, he's not a fuckingunderdog.
Oh, because he went in the fifthround?
Uh maybe.
No, he's not a fucking underdog.
He's like the most famous benchwarmer since Tim T vote, bruh.
Like, that's not a fuckingunderdog.

SPEAKER_06 (56:33):
I get it.

SPEAKER_04 (56:34):
I mean, but but he he's more like Barack Obama.

SPEAKER_01 (56:38):
Chador Sanders is the most powerful black man
since 2009.
You know what happened in 2009?
That's when President Obama gotelected in office.
He's he's the most powerfulblack man since 2009.
You said you were sitting therewatching the game in your house,

(57:00):
and what you did, you ran youran with the TV.
Yeah, right.
Right.
What was you doing, DB?
Yeah, okay.
You changed like a when ShadowSanders is on the field, and
when I say powerful, powerfulbecause it's two sides of it,
right?
Think about it.
Okay, you got the blackcommunity, he bringing the whole

(57:20):
black community together.
I ain't I ain't ran across oneblack person that that didn't
say one bad thing about Shadow.
We won't him, and guess what?
Not one, because he hasn't metme perk.
He has the balance of that.
I'm arrogant, but I'm humbletoo.
Yeah, we have fun with fun withshit, and on top of that, y'all

(57:40):
want me to say it ain't y'allwant me to feel it ain't go
happy.
Yeah, he's talking we the mosthe's the most powerful black man
in sports, no other, no other hematter of fact, black man, he
the most powerful player insports, Mike Drop.

SPEAKER_06 (58:00):
Yeah, I again, and I told you this when you sent me
this clip.
Um Perk should stick to havinghis bad takes only on the four
letter, and I mean it.
That is such a bad comparison,and I think I knew what he
meant.
It's just it's such a badcomparison because Barack Obama,

(58:25):
for one, sits in the pantheonsof MLKs, Harriet Tubins.
Like, we're talking when itcomes to fuck actually, and let
me not even just do blackhistory.
Historically, period.
This is somebody that sits inpantheon, not because yes,

(58:45):
because he's the first blackpresident, but like in general,
his meaning to history is sogreat.
If Shador Sanders became afive-time Pro Bowl quarterback
and didn't make the Hall ofFame, his meaning would not be

(59:07):
that of Barack Obama.
So it's it's it's such a badcomparison, it's just a bad
company.

SPEAKER_03 (59:13):
He's bringing the black community community
together, like black people.
What are they doing?

SPEAKER_06 (59:18):
Niggas aren't shooting each other because of
it, and I'm not, and I hate thatsay it sounds so bad saying it
this way.

SPEAKER_03 (59:25):
But they're they're getting in front of the TV to
watch him play football.

SPEAKER_06 (59:30):
Fuck out of here, man.
I I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 (59:33):
I don't know, but hey, you know, uh, and I was
gonna say this uh in the We HaveSomething to Say segment last
week, but we didn't get to it.
But I'm bothered, doublybothered by black podcasters

(59:55):
really only knowing how to talkabout one line of things.
And then they choose to talkabout more than what they can
talk about.
But it also bothers me that somany big black media
personalities, I should say,can't talk about a few different
things intelligently.

(01:00:16):
And I'm not talking about yourStephen A.
Smith's because he's on air toomuch to be able to talk about a
lot of different things.
Yeah, but just just like bigperk.
It's you're talking football.
You know what?
You're probably more qualified.
You're definitely more qualifiedto talk football than I am

(01:00:37):
because you work at ESPN, so youget to talk to me.
You used to do a podcast withSwaggoo.
But Perk.
I don't think you're the guy forpresidential references or
historical references.
You know, Perk came straight outof high school.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:01):
A role player from the Celtics and the Thunder, a
champion.
A top prospect coming out ofhigh school.
Out of Texas.

SPEAKER_04 (01:01:15):
Beaumont.
Nigga who dribbles in hisdriveway in a suit and J's.

SPEAKER_06 (01:01:23):
I'm glad Lee that that stuff impresses a lot of
people.
I'm glad that Perk does what hedoes on ESDM because obviously
I'm familiar with him becauseI've seen his career.
He's uh entertaining formerbasketball player that they put

(01:01:47):
a mic in front of, and that'sfantastic.
But the reality of the situationis this Kendrick Perkins holds
no weight when it comes totalking about anything outside
of basketball to me.
He was talking about footballand bringing in politics.
I don't want to fucking hear.

(01:02:07):
Actually, it ain't evenpolitics, it's his it's it's
black history.
If we want to break it down evenfurther, because that's what he
was saying.
He was saying this is blackhistory, which maybe it is not
black history, but what I'msaying is that this nigga
watched this nigga play one gamewhere they played honestly, and

(01:02:28):
we'll get because we're gonnaget off this segment here soon.
But like they played probablythe worst team in the NFL if
we're gonna keep it a buck.
If we're gonna keep it a buck, Ithink the Raiders are the worst
team in the league, and I knowthat they beat the Titans, but I
think that if we keep it at abuck, nigga, that's the worst
team in the NFL.

(01:02:49):
We actually talked deeper aboutthe Raiders.
I didn't even send you thisshit, and we didn't talk about
it.
Did you know that Jim Gray ownsa piece of the Raiders too with
Brady?
No, okay.
So apparently, and I'm gonnakeep this really short.
Apparently, he's a part of thatGrady by uh I said Grady, Brady

(01:03:13):
buy-in package, and he's theissue.
Google, while and I'll continueto talk, Google Raiders, Jim
Gray, and you look up what comesup, they are saying that behind
the scenes, that yes, the thethe the product on the field,
because obviously they firedChip Kelly, because we might as

(01:03:34):
well address this now, too.
Yep, they fired Chip Kelly.
I didn't realize he was thehighest Lego C in the NFL, but
they fired Chip Kelly, theformer CEO of the Raiders.
I forgot her name, but she wasthere for a long time, and she's
a big part of it.
They fired man, they talkedabout it, and Jim Gray's a big

(01:03:55):
part of this, apparently.
That's what they say.

SPEAKER_04 (01:03:58):
Amy Trask.

SPEAKER_06 (01:04:00):
Yes, she's a big part of it, and it's it's
unbelievable to me.
She worked for she worked forAl.
Yes, this is what I'm saying.
Now, so you're are you it justI'm reading a story of the
battle from fans side now?
She probably should have beenfired because the radio left on
her own accord in like a fewyears, like almost a decade ago.

(01:04:23):
Yes, but she's still obviouslyconnected to the organization,
certainly.
Uh not Al, but she's you knowDavis's son.
They're they're they're they'restill connected.
I'm sure that they have to bebecause they know each other,
but like, and she's cool withTom.
Now, Tom Brady has aninteresting relationship with
Jim Gray, as everybody knows.

(01:04:45):
Even when Tom was playing, heused to do interviews on Monday
night, and I would hear themwhen I would ride in my car
coming from Snow Mountain toAtlanta to go home at halftime
and like before the game.
Normally, Jim Gray's on like CBSSports Network.
Like, while I'm talking aboutthis is why he was on the Bucks

(01:05:05):
quarterback, and would like talkto Jim Gray.
Now, Jim Gray did the decisionwith LeBron.
I don't know what Jim Gray was.

SPEAKER_04 (01:05:14):
Sorry, I don't know what Jim Gray's uh why the fuck
he gets to start running an NFLteam.

SPEAKER_06 (01:05:22):
Well, why he would even be included in it, and that
he's able to cause enough mayhemin an organization that's
already filled with it becausethey've been filled with it for
so long.
That the thought would be if youlook at Pete Carroll, Pete
Carroll's a good coach, likenobody can convince me that Pete
Carroll's a bad coach.

SPEAKER_04 (01:05:41):
Man, look, here's what the fuck's going on, Pete.
Jim Gray has Brady's ear.
Jim Gray is Brady's guy.

SPEAKER_06 (01:05:52):
We got here too, by the way.

SPEAKER_04 (01:05:54):
What's up, who's Jim Gray is likely spreading
bullshit throughout theorganization to different people
saying different stuff andgiving the appearance to some
that he's speaking for Tom.
But then they also know that ifthey cross Jim, that fucks him

(01:06:18):
up with Tom.
So he's rich McCain him.
A guy who shouldn't have thismuch influence has put himself
in a position to have to disruptthe franchise.
Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (01:06:38):
No, no, no, no, no, no.
But this is why I bring it up.
I brought it up because of theidea of even with the Shadorsa,
it's just so much that goes onin these organizations to where
nobody knows why these thingsare happening because we just
aren't on the inside.

SPEAKER_04 (01:06:59):
We can only speculate, we can all only
speculate because we're justwe're not a part of it, and the
people who know are the ones arethe ones who write the stories
and they leave this shit out.

SPEAKER_06 (01:07:10):
And that's another thing.
These people know people, it's arelationship-based thing, it's
like everything we know in life.
Who do you know?
Like, who can hook you up?
If Lee, if if my company was inuh not only just a great
position, but you know that evenfrom a logistics standpoint,
there would be no reason whyanyone will be working anywhere

(01:07:36):
in any capacity.
If I'm an entrepreneur and Ihave the opening openingness and
willingness of doing anything,there is nobody that wouldn't
work with me that's some friendof mine, you know what I'm
saying?
Yeah, so like I think it's thisit works the same way, the
higher it goes, like no matterwhat.

(01:07:56):
Like, it's like the same thing,and so it's like well, but but
vice versa.
If anyone can help me, I and Idon't know, I am somebody that I
don't like doing it.
If I need help and I asksomebody to help me, I will only
ask somebody I know that canhelp me, right?

(01:08:18):

SPEAKER_04 (01:08:19):
So and think about this though, there were there's
some political topics that wecould that we could, or I even
on a solo show that I would loveto talk about, but because of
how the information wasdelivered, it'll never go on the
microphone, you know what I'msaying?

SPEAKER_06 (01:08:38):
Protecting fucking relationships, and it's such as
life, though.
Like, like I think that anyonethat's listening right now,
live, seriously, you can sithere and I promise you, you
could be elite, good, very good,like I mean borderline, great,
or something like that, and likeyou won't get that opportunity.

(01:09:01):
Now, I don't speak thisnecessarily just as somebody
that's like somewhat lived.
I think that for the most part,I've lived a solid life.
So if I got shot dead yet lastnight, I think that's solid life
so far.
But what I would say is thatnow, even somewhat being on the
outside looking in and lookingat, I'm like, fuck.

(01:09:23):
I'm like, this is wild.
Like in a sense, of it's it's apart of the world that I've
never got to see because Ididn't have to deal with it, and
most people don't have to dealwith it, and they don't realize
it until they're in a positionto where they do have to fucking
deal with some shit.
When you got to deal with someshit, you're gonna be a lot more

(01:09:44):
fuck sympathy or whatever, butyou're gonna be more locked in
on the idea of this is the waythat everything really works,
because then you'll startlooking back and you'll be like,
it's not about well, why doesthis person have this and why
are they doing that?
But naturally, as a person, youwill feel that way.
It doesn't mean that you havehate in your heart or envy or

(01:10:06):
any of this stuff, but you willnaturally look at it and say, I
could do this too.

SPEAKER_04 (01:10:11):
Yeah, and and and and but the and I'll say the
beauty of that though is if youactually go out there and try to
do it, you start to learn howdifficult it is, and what you
should do is gain gain a healthyrespect for that person who you
think you're better than.

(01:10:33):
Because you can still be moretalented than that person, but
not the right situation, not theright relationships, not the
right push, not the rightvisibility, all of these
different things.
But hey man, we're running lowon time, so let's let's let's
jump to Rivalry Week.
One great thing aboutThanksgiving is we get Rivalry

(01:10:54):
Week in college football.
Uh Georgia Tech lost last week,and that scares me.

SPEAKER_06 (01:11:00):
It didn't scare me from the standpoint of for UGA
winning the game.

SPEAKER_04 (01:11:04):
Maybe they won't cover, but like oh shit, we
should win because uh we uh uhyou know the the Athens special.

SPEAKER_06 (01:11:13):
Well, the game that Mercedes been, obviously, right?

SPEAKER_04 (01:11:16):
I'm talking about a reckless driving leading into
the end of the season.

SPEAKER_06 (01:11:22):
He did send that.

SPEAKER_04 (01:11:23):
We're in rare form, you know.
We're shaping up.
This is this is the Georgiafootball I know kicking ass and
fucking speed.

SPEAKER_06 (01:11:30):
I think that Georgia Tech, after watching them
against Pittsburgh, it's not avery good football team,
low-key.
They're having a good year.
Obviously, their playoff hopesshatter with that.
It sucks because if they hadwon, no matter what happened,
they're in the ACC championship,they win the ACC they're in.
And it would have been good, notjust for college football to

(01:11:54):
have this fresh face, but forthe state of Georgia, right?
Yeah, it just is good because asmuch as we're Georgia fans, I
think that we always want techto do well.

SPEAKER_04 (01:12:04):
Yeah, we root for tech pretty much every week,
except for a little brother,there really are a little
brother.

SPEAKER_06 (01:12:09):
Like, it's like I don't want you necessarily
better than me, but I want to Iwant you to do well, yeah.
Like if we're in the samecompetition, it's like I'm gonna
beat because I'm big brother andI can't lose to you.
But anything outside of me, man,have at it.

SPEAKER_04 (01:12:24):
Like it's not like you know, it's not Auburn,
Alabama.

SPEAKER_06 (01:12:27):
If tech were to win a name, they're right, they're
rivals, but like they're notrivals, fans are rivals, they're
fans, they're like a it's afriendly rival.
No, no, it's like it's like usin fantasy football.
Like, I think you can get yourbrands kicked in this week, Lee.
Sure, I do because I need thatnumber one seat, I want the bye.
So but I would rather not haveto play justice, not because oh

(01:12:50):
no, I want you to play justice,mutually excuse me.
No, not because I don't think henot because I think I can beat
him, it's just I don't want tohave to beat justice.
You're afraid, I get it.
No, I'm I'm really not.

SPEAKER_03 (01:13:02):
What little brother becomes big brother?

SPEAKER_06 (01:13:04):
I would love to play him in the championship again.

SPEAKER_04 (01:13:06):
I would become little brother becomes big
brother.
No, y'all can't play in achampionship again because y'all
collude.

SPEAKER_06 (01:13:14):
No, well, that didn't even make any sense
overall.
There is no collusion.

SPEAKER_03 (01:13:19):
How can we we're gonna hey?
We're gonna split the pot.

SPEAKER_06 (01:13:22):
What does that have to do with anything, though?

SPEAKER_04 (01:13:25):
Hey, hey, let's make a side bet so neither of us
lose.

SPEAKER_06 (01:13:29):
Let's just bitch ourselves to where, regardless
of who wins, we split the moneyand we both are winners.
Why would anyone be mad at that?
If it didn't have nothing to dowith I sent only a player that
was like that only, and then hesent me one like like he liked
the running back, I like thequarterback, and we made a
straight up swap.

(01:13:49):
It didn't make any, and eventhen, it's still only only two
people in the league think thinkthat's okay, you know.
Okay, well, we've never donethat before, like, even when we
played, what it was was hewanted to win, and I wanted to
win some money.
We both wanted to win money, andso it, but we ended up playing

(01:14:11):
each other, anyways.

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:12):
So yeah, he wanted to win, and you wanted to win
some money, so it's like, hey,I'll get you his championship,
but it worked out because weplayed each other, yeah, and we
did split the money.

SPEAKER_06 (01:14:21):
I don't have to lie about it.
We split it.
I know, I'm not accusing you oflying, but then it became, but
then it did come down to acollusion, it's not that it
mattered, it didn't matter whowon at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_04 (01:14:32):
It didn't matter who won't matter in this league
because we win, because we are acollective, we are the Hodges
brothers, and we work together.

SPEAKER_06 (01:14:42):
We won more championships combined than the
league combined, like yeah,because we won we both won three
because you both collude.
That that's what happens.
We both collude.
I mean, it just so happens thatwe won this these leagues, like
that's like that's like the mob.

SPEAKER_04 (01:14:59):
That's like the mob saying, Hey, we've got the most
uh uh building contracts in thecity.
No shit.

SPEAKER_06 (01:15:06):
League this league has been in existence for 10
years.
I have been in the championshipsix times, I've won three times,
justice has won three times.

SPEAKER_12 (01:15:16):
It's nice, it's nice, it's nice when you have a
teammate inside of a competitiveleague.

SPEAKER_06 (01:15:20):
He's not a teammate, he's not a teammate.
If he loses to JP, hopefully youlose.

SPEAKER_04 (01:15:29):
I will be glad that if Erickson, because I don't
think Eric's ever been in theplayoffs, but I could call Julia
Turner right now, and he willback up.

SPEAKER_06 (01:15:39):
I don't I don't think that that that our fantasy
football league it doesn't gothat deep.
I want justice, I but you guyshave to understand.
I mean, I want you guys to dowell too, but like I want of
course I want justice.
I want I have known justicesince he was born.

SPEAKER_04 (01:15:59):
Hey Drew.
Hey, you're on the pod realquick.
Does uh do you believe thatPierce and Justice collude in
our fantasy league?
Something like the mob does whenthey get contracts in cities?

SPEAKER_07 (01:16:14):
Uh I believe that they put the integrity of our
league at risk.
That's such bullshit, and heknows it too.
I I think that when you have twopeople with the same last name,
um, especially the Hodge, itdoesn't bode well for the spirit

(01:16:37):
of competition.

SPEAKER_06 (01:16:39):
You if you're my brother and Lee is my brother,
because I consider you guysbrothers.
Now, yes, me and Justice havethe same mom and dad, so of
course, I'm gonna split the potwith him, you know.
I've known Justice since he wasborn.
You guys have to remember this.
I've known this nigga.

(01:16:59):
I I only have well now I havetwo younger brothers, but like
for the most part, for thelongest part of my life, I've
only had one younger brother.
Of course, I care about justice.

SPEAKER_04 (01:17:09):
Like, yeah, you care about you care about the Hodges
family dominating the league.
So if you don't have this thepoint, Larry Justice went.

SPEAKER_06 (01:17:19):
You guys don't even remember this.
Laris was actually in our leagueone year, and I mean he didn't
win anything, like Laris was inour league.
I think it was one of thoseyears where we were like short,
someone I was on defense, butlike conclusion, no, Laris
didn't he didn't go to theplayoffs, like uh, but this is
what I'm saying probably soldyou guys players.

SPEAKER_04 (01:17:40):
Hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna wave this guy.
I'm gonna waive this guy onThursday at four o'clock.
Bullshit.
We don't do that.

SPEAKER_07 (01:17:48):
Now you're yeah, you're not you're not, you're
not now it's an integrity thingof me.

SPEAKER_06 (01:17:54):
Huh?
Now you're saying I don't have achance.

SPEAKER_07 (01:17:58):
You know, you know, you know the thing of like that
commercial when they're like uhthe NBA players are like
describe the dude, he's likesoft, pretty boy, bitch.
That's that's that's how I feelabout that's how I feel about
the Hodges.

SPEAKER_06 (01:18:13):
Um when it comes to when it comes to fantasy fantasy
football, liars, sleeve, youknow, you you guys, you know,
and and I don't like how Lee ledoff with let they're like the
mob or something.
There is no fucking mob, but howcan there be a mob?

(01:18:35):
How can two niggas be a mob?
There's no that's not possibleagainst 10 other people.
You're right, there is no mob.

SPEAKER_04 (01:18:42):
It is when they're all mob hey, yeah, there's
right.
That's what somebody in the mobwould say, right, Julian?

SPEAKER_07 (01:18:48):
There is no what no well it's it's just like all the
picky blinders.
There is there is there is nomob, but it's just a picky
blinder.
If there is no mob, it's justloaders express.
That's all it is.
You know, that's all that's allit is.

SPEAKER_04 (01:19:08):
Hey, hey, thanks for that, Julian.
I I knew you would be great onthis segment.

SPEAKER_07 (01:19:13):
Anytime, any any any time to expose clothes and who
you know who who don't believein the fantasy and uh uh uh
fantasy football and will doanything, and I mean anything to
come in the first place.
Hey, I'm your guy.

(01:19:34):
Thanks, dog.

SPEAKER_02 (01:19:35):
Hey, you have a happy Thanksgiving, dog.
We're gonna holler at you.

SPEAKER_07 (01:19:37):
Hey, as well.
Hey, love you, boys.

SPEAKER_06 (01:19:39):
Love you too.
Love you too, brother.
All right, all right.
All right, so he called the mostbiased person he could find, and
we'll leave it at that.
Uh I wish we could get JoshHolsey.
I know he's somewhere satellite,but regardless, my point is is
this this fantasy footballleague, it it is fun.

(01:20:01):
It's fun.
I mean, obviously, we we alwayslook forward to it every year.
There's no collusion that goeson.
This is this is just as uhshameless as uh us talking about
Josh Holsey and his box course.
I we don't hate Josh, just asthey don't really this is uh K
thade.

(01:20:21):
Hey man, this is you know what Imean, like but hey big dog, we
got 10 minutes left.

SPEAKER_04 (01:20:28):
Um what's important?

SPEAKER_06 (01:20:32):
Let's do this.
Yeah, because gosh, I do need toget down there.
Uh I tell you what, we couldextend it.
It's 951.

SPEAKER_04 (01:20:40):
I I I've I've got to do a FaceTime and I still want
to get downtown before it getstoo late, too.
Oh, so I'm I'm I'm rocking withthe 10 o'clock.

SPEAKER_06 (01:20:47):
Okay, that's fine.
All right, well then hold on.

SPEAKER_04 (01:20:50):
And I mean, we can like I mean, give or take 5'10,
right?

SPEAKER_06 (01:20:54):
Yeah, that's what I was saying.
That's more what I was doing.
All right, well, let's justquickly hit some stuff.
LeBron's last season.
What do you think?

SPEAKER_04 (01:21:00):
LeCap.

SPEAKER_06 (01:21:01):
I agree too.
I don't I don't believe thatLeBron, like I told you, I don't
think his pride would honestlyallow him to just retire like
this.

SPEAKER_04 (01:21:08):
So I don't think Adam Silver's uh employer would
allow LeBron to do this, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (01:21:17):
And certainly the Lakers wouldn't either.
So, all right, that's enough uhthe narrative.
Hearts got blown out.
We're not gonna talk about them.
Uh, how about let's get to themorale student real quick.

SPEAKER_03 (01:21:31):
You didn't want to talk about CP3 retiring
announcing his retirement?

SPEAKER_06 (01:21:36):
He had our he had low-key already done it, and
like nobody just cared.

SPEAKER_04 (01:21:40):
So it was like, I mean, we can, but like nobody
cared anyways, so it's kind ofjust like, well, CP3, uh a great
point guard, better loved byfans and media than people who
played with him, pause andagainst him.

SPEAKER_06 (01:21:59):
But that's agree that I I can agree with that.
I think that Chris Paul'slegacy, he's a first ballot hall
of favor, but like at the sametime, he never won.
One I if there's one thing thateverybody can say about Chris
Paul is his impact is to me moresimilar to Jason Kidd than

(01:22:20):
anyone.
Everything that he went to gotbetter when he got, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (01:22:24):
But like my my point about players not liking him,
like and I think people didn'tlike Jason Kidd too.

SPEAKER_06 (01:22:30):
Well, no, but but or at least his kids don't.
His kid think he's like a dick.

SPEAKER_04 (01:22:34):
Like, well, I'm I'm talking about like basketball
not liking him.
Just if you play with ChrisPaul, you have to play the way
Chris Paul wants to play.
And if you have anyindividuality to your game, it's
it's it could be a tough placefor you, and he's a banana boat
member as well.

SPEAKER_06 (01:22:54):
And of course, when you're a part of the banana boat
crew, it um gets wet, it doesget wet, it does.

SPEAKER_04 (01:23:02):
I it does, but um what else is on here?
You want to talk about theMorehouse student?

SPEAKER_06 (01:23:09):
Yeah, just briefly, he got I didn't even see the
video.
Obviously, I just read thereport.
But what I will say is that Idon't condone um any violence as
a whole, but certainly a moralstudent on a Clark or a Spelman,

(01:23:30):
like I know it's Clark, but likeit's certainly man on woman.

SPEAKER_04 (01:23:34):
Hey man, keep your hand off women.

SPEAKER_06 (01:23:36):
Yeah, it's real simple.
I mean, I these are things thatit's so sad that they have to be
talked about, even because theseare like known things, like why
keep your hands off other mentoo if they don't touch it.

SPEAKER_04 (01:23:50):
Well, yeah, but that's uh that's what I was
about to say.
Here comes the hard part.
You the reason why thisconversation I think keeps
coming up is because we can'thave the real conversation, and
it kind of reminds me of likewhat got Steve in hot water, uh
you know, with the stuff thatcame up recently when he was
talking about the Ray Riceincident, and he was like, I'm

(01:24:11):
not condoning what he did, butlike, what did she do?
But hold on, hold on, hold on,hold on, hold on.

SPEAKER_06 (01:24:19):
Don't shake your head at that because Steve's
just it's Steve.

SPEAKER_04 (01:24:23):
Yeah, it again, but it's a it's a legitimate
question.
Nothing well.
Most things that happen No, fuckthat.
Nothing happens I can't think ofmuch that will happen where it
justifies a man like beingphysically aggressive towards a
woman.
There are a couple of situationslike she's trying to kill you,

(01:24:45):
whatever, whatever, she has ashe has a weapon.
Like there are places wherethat's uh your only option,
right?
See how crazy it is for me toeven say it.
Because you know you you knowwhat I mean, everybody knows
what I mean, but it it can betaken another way.

(01:25:06):
But as a human being, uh youshould also not put yourself in
a position to have somebody puthands on you.
And what does that mean?
Some people don't haveself-control.
So you can't assume thateverybody has self-control.
And this isn't victim blaming.
This is called being aresponsible adult.
We've been in confrontationswith people before.

(01:25:29):
You take a second to think aboutthis confrontation or this
possible confrontation.
Where am I at?
Who am I with?
Why am I doing this?
Why are we doing this?
What's the security situation?
Can I get out of here?
Uh am I out of state?
You know, like there's all thesedifferent thoughts going through
your head.
So in saying that, like, yo, isif if you see somebody violent

(01:25:53):
like that, you should stay awayfrom them.
Or you if you're gonna be aroundthem, conduct yourself
accordingly or be prepared forthat.
Again, that's you.
That person needs to work onthemselves and and their
self-control.
Definitely.
But I'm only giving the quoteunquote victim side, like the
quote unquote victim blaming,more attention because that's

(01:26:16):
not a conversation that's had.
And I'm somebody who oh, I'vebeen hit before by a woman and I
didn't hit her back.
You don't get hit for no reason,even if what you did doesn't
deserve you being hit.
For sure.
So I say that to say, man, watchwhat you do, watch what you say,

(01:26:37):
because you can only controlyourself.
You can't control other people.
Hey, control yourself,motherfucker.
Watch what the fuck you'redoing.
Don't put your hands on no on nogirl like that, bro.
Don't be put your hands onnobody like that.
Your parents didn't send you toMorehouse to be fighting.
Like, yeah, let me be an oldnigga real quick.
Like, hey, all you you toughguys in college, it's one thing

(01:27:00):
to be a man and not to allowdisrespect.
If somebody puts you in asituation, yeah, you fight.
Fights happen.
Especially at all male college.
Like, it's a lot of testosteronegoing on in them freshman dorms.

SPEAKER_06 (01:27:13):
But a lot of new niggas meeting each other and
wherever they're territory, likewell, they believe that where
I'm from is greater than whereyou're from, or oh, you didn't
grow up like me.

SPEAKER_04 (01:27:24):
Like it's a lot of that dumb shit that you're
supposed to work through.
And I think your parents areokay with that because you find
yourself.
But hey, young man, take this asa learning lesson in finding
yourself.
Because if this is who you aregonna continue to be, you're
gonna continue to you're gonnacontinue to be in these
situations.

(01:27:44):
Funny thing, uh, a reference toour friend earlier, where you
may know her, but I won't saywhy.
Part of why you won't say whybecause sometimes what what
everybody knows you for is whoyou are to them forever, and you
don't get to reintroduceyourself, right?

SPEAKER_06 (01:28:03):
You never get that opportunity, can't be ho all the
time, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (01:28:07):
So be careful of what you do because that might
be who you are to somebodyforever.

SPEAKER_06 (01:28:15):
I I can't I can't think of a better way to say
that, and there's only one waythat we can end up ending this,
anyways, and I guess that's withthe picks.

SPEAKER_04 (01:28:24):
Um that jumped a gun.
Um, you're good.
Well, I don't know.
Go ahead and do it so I can doit again now.

SPEAKER_06 (01:28:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fall start, Lee.
10 second reset, automatic timeto do this over again.
All right.
So uh what I was gonna say wasjust this, uh, just in general,
because I was looking atobviously our uh our card here,

(01:28:59):
and I know that we're gonnaleave here soon, but like uh
because Epstein, we could talkabout it at any time.
Um certainly we couldn't even uhrecap, but uh one of the things
I did just want to quickly say,especially, and I think it's
perfect timing.

(01:29:20):
Uh uh when it comes to thecollege football playoffs, these
guys just real quick, do youthink you probably didn't see
the clip, but like uh they askedabout um top five stay the same.

(01:29:41):
Then old miss got jumped byOregon.
Now, Oregon did beat USC athome, and their opinion of it
was literally they asked to doyou know what he said because
they were six and seven.
He's like six seven.
He literally did it, likebasically it's one and the same,
and this.
Just like you're a sneakymotherfucker, nigga.

(01:30:02):
You think that this this popculture shit or or or they think
Lane's leaving?
Well, that was the question.
The question was, and justquickly, you can tell who you
think after I say this, whereyou think he will go if he's
gonna leave it all, which is mything.
But like uh they asked what typeof impact does that have if they

(01:30:27):
win the egg ball, and becauseobviously Florida State in a 14
playoff is undefeated and winsthe ACC, but doesn't go in
because they're startingquarterback, won't be playing,
so it's like, does that have animpact?
Is what the question was, andthen he said six seven.

(01:30:48):
That was literally his answer,though.

SPEAKER_04 (01:30:50):
And it's like, okay, he's the well seriously.
Yeah, that was the bestnon-answer that he could give.
It's funny, it's stupid becausethey were literally both six and
seven, and they it's clever, butit also lets them know you're
not gonna tell them anything,which is the right thing to do.

SPEAKER_06 (01:31:08):
But but but old miss gets in if they win, and so does
Oklahoma.
Like, these are teams thatshould be in if they win, one
way or another.
Yeah, it doesn't matter ifLane's the coach.
I don't know who the coach wouldbe if Lane leaves, but like more
importantly, why does it why isit that if Lane leaves, he can't
finish out the season?
We've seen Jim Moore, they'renot playing for anything, but

(01:31:32):
like why that there is anothercoach, I think it's North
Texas's coach, he's going to umsomewhere, and they said that
he's gonna get to finish outbecause North Texas has a chance
to obviously make the collegefootball playoffs, so it's like
Florida and LSU need to gettheir guy in so they can uh

(01:31:55):
share up their recruits becausethey're they're playing at a
different level and there'sdifferent money involved.

SPEAKER_04 (01:32:02):
And it kind of goes to what uh Coach Saban said this
past week on game day or twoweeks ago, whenever he said it.
This is bullshit.
Like that's essentially what hesaid.
You owe the players something asa coach.
You owe the university somethingas a coach, but more

(01:32:23):
importantly, you owe theseplayers because you don't get to
compete for a nationalchampionship every year.
Ole Metz doesn't compete fornational championships.
You have your team competing fora national championship.
Florida LSU, if you maybe wantthe national championship
winning coach to come to yourschool, you know, or maybe not,

(01:32:45):
because that drives up theprice.
I I don't fucking know becausehe's gonna get the highest
contract in until Kirby uh untilhe signs it, then Kirby will
pass him.
But um I just college footballis the wild, wild west, and it's
being ran by the TV networks,and the TV networks don't
actually care about football,they care about uh ad revenue

(01:33:05):
and data.
So here we are.

SPEAKER_06 (01:33:09):
Well, that makes total sense to me, but we gotta
make sense of these picturesweekly.
So you know what time it means,right?

SPEAKER_10 (01:33:17):
Oh, ladies and gentlemen, it is time for Parlay
Palace Football Six Pra 666.

SPEAKER_06 (01:33:31):
All right, so uh obviously happy holidays to
those and everyone listening.
I'm gonna say this again becauseI guess the NFL clip's the one
that normally is posted, butnonetheless, we've got a
delicious spread for thisholiday occasion.
This is actually the last weekof college football.

(01:33:52):
It's so crazy how fast thisyear's went, Bali.
Would you agree?

SPEAKER_12 (01:33:56):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (01:33:57):
It is gone by so quickly, but let's get into it.
We got LSU at Oklahoma.
Oklahoma has a playoff spot onthe line.
We will be taking Oklahoma onthe line.
So let's get Oklahoma minus nineand a half at home.
They're going to the playoffs.
Congratulations, Oklahoma.

(01:34:18):
Next, we got Missouri atArkansas, a game that actually
doesn't have meaning but value.
We're going to take Missouri onthe money line.
They're minus 145.
I think that's tremendous valueagainst uh I was going to say
Bobby Bowden.
Against that former fucker thatwas the Falcons head coach uh
since he's coaching in Arkansas,and they're, you know, they're

(01:34:40):
not all right.
Missouri's better.
Shout out to Coach Drake.
We got Arizona at Arizona State.
I like over 47.
They had it set at 47.
That's pretty low.
Um, we're gonna take over 47 toArizona at Arizona State.
Uh, then we got Mississippi atMississippi State, as we talked
about Lane Kiffen.

(01:35:00):
Let me get Mississippi Ole Missto win.
I just I don't really carewhat's going on.
Fun fact lost a$50,000 bet,probably I think it was two or
three Thanksgivings ago on thisgame because I took Ole Miss.
But I'll leave that there forthe uh what would they call
that, Lee?

SPEAKER_02 (01:35:20):
I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 (01:35:23):
I don't know.
They have this thing wherethey're like notes, they're not
spark notes, but it's likesomething for readers whenever
they read something.
Click notes.
Click notes for this, just togive a heads up.
Next, we got Georgia at GeorgiaTech.
Of course, I have to touch theuh good old-fashioned hate.
I like under 60.
They haven't said it 60.

(01:35:44):
I'm gonna be honest with you.
I don't know if Georgia Tech'sjust gonna move the ball on
Georgia.
I know the last year we got theclassic, probably the best game
they've ever played.
We're gonna take under 60 here.
I just don't, that's a reallyhigh number.
Under 60.
And then we got Texas AM andTexas.
This has surprised a lot ofpeople.
Give me Texas on the money line,baby.

(01:36:04):
I think Texas wins at homeagainst AM.
AM hadn't lost the game allyear.
I don't think that AM,especially after the South
Carolina game, I don't know howgood they truly are.
Texas isn't that as good as wethought that they were, but what
we do know is that Arch Manningis better and certainly next
year will warrant all the Texasand Arch hype, as far as I'm

(01:36:25):
concerned.
Assuming he comes back, thatteam will be probably the best
team in the SEC.

SPEAKER_04 (01:36:32):
Um if Texas wins, they get in, by the way.

SPEAKER_06 (01:36:38):
No, they don't.
It it's gonna take a lot ofstuff, Lee.
It's gonna take a lot.
We'll talk about it next week,but like it's gonna, it's it's
it, I think it's gonna take alot for them to get in.
They're a lost team.
I I know it's gonna take a lot,they're gonna need some stuff to
happen.
But I'm not saying that theycan't, I just think that because

(01:37:00):
it so all right, hold on, realquick.
The network will that, but thenif AM loses, Georgia wins and
Alabama beats Oliver, which theywill.
Gosh, that was actually the pickI wanted to put in.
I didn't see it on here when Iput this in.
I like Alabama minus five and ahalf.
I really, really do.
I think that's way too lowagainst Oliver.
They're gonna absolutely coverthat spread.

(01:37:22):
Low-key Lee, hold on.
Can you cross out just realquick?
I'm sorry, that was actually thepick I wanted.
Can you cross out uh I like allthese?
I really do.
Uh just cross out the Arizona,Arizona State, and put uh
Alabama minus five, minus fiveand a half against Auburn.

(01:37:46):
Yeah, they're gonna they'regonna cover this red.
Like they're gonna beat them ona touchdown.

SPEAKER_04 (01:37:51):
So all right, so we got Oklahoma minus nine and a
half.
We've got Mizzou on the moneyline, Bama minus five and a
half, Ole Miss on the moneyline.
Georgia and Georgia Tech under60.

SPEAKER_05 (01:38:08):
Yep.

SPEAKER_04 (01:38:09):
And Hook Emhorns, Texas on the money line.

SPEAKER_05 (01:38:11):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_10 (01:38:14):
Uh ladies and gentlemen, it is time for Parlay
PSL six pack.

SPEAKER_06 (01:38:24):
Happy holidays to those out there that celebrate.
Let's get into it.
We are thankful for these sixpicks.
Uh, we've got the Buffalo Billsat the Pittsburgh Steelers,
which is funny because we're notdoing any picks from the
Thanksgiving game because Idon't think I can get it up in
time tomorrow.
Maybe I will.
We'll see.
But, and it's a juicy slick,too.

(01:38:45):
Anyways, we're gonna do all theSunday games or Monday games.
Buffalo Bills at uh PittsburghSteelers.
I like over 60.
Give me uh Bills at Steelersover six.
I'm sorry.
Bills at Steelers over 46.
Next, I don't have to explainit.
Bad defense points, veryimportant game.
Uh Raiders at uh Chargers,Chargers minus eight and a half.

(01:39:07):
The Raiders, I think, are theworst team in the NFL, giving
the Chargers at eight and a halfcoming off a bad performance.
Giants at Patriots is the Mondaynight game.
I like what Janice is cooking.
I'm gonna take the Giants on themoney line.
I don't know why.
We're gonna go Giants moneyline.
Then next we got the Falcons atthe Jets.
I hope that I am not jinxing myteam.

(01:39:28):
We're gonna take the Falcons tobeat the Jets on the money line.
Uh, next we got the Vikings atthe Steel uh Seahawks.
I like Vikings minus nine and ahalf.
I think that this line's alittle low.

SPEAKER_04 (01:39:40):
Yeah, Vikings at the Seahawks.

SPEAKER_06 (01:39:42):
Yep.
And Vikings Steelers might I'msorry, Seahawks minus nine and a
half.

SPEAKER_03 (01:39:49):
Oh, I was about to say.

SPEAKER_06 (01:39:51):
But it is Vikings at Seahawks, but Seahawks minus
nine and a half, and thenfinally, we've got the Cardinals
at the Buccaneers.
We have no idea if Baker's gonnaplay, but 43 and a half is a low
number for both of these teams,regardless.
I'm gonna take the over over 43and a half in that game.

SPEAKER_04 (01:40:08):
And who's that?

SPEAKER_06 (01:40:10):
Uh Cardinals at Bucks.

SPEAKER_04 (01:40:13):
So we got Steelers.
Buffalo and Steelers over 46.
Uh Chargers minus eight and ahalf.
Giants on the money line.
Falcons on the money line.
Seahawks minus nine and a half.

SPEAKER_09 (01:40:31):
Yep.

SPEAKER_04 (01:40:32):
And cards at Bucks over 43 and a half.

SPEAKER_06 (01:40:36):
That's a low number, but yes.

SPEAKER_04 (01:40:38):
You like it?
I love it.

SPEAKER_06 (01:40:41):
And when he likes it and he loves it, we will be time
for Leeds three.
Leads three.

SPEAKER_04 (01:40:54):
All right.
So for Leeds three this week,give me Lane on the money line.
You know, shout out to Lane, uh,one of my favorite college
football coaches.
He's he's gonna win that eggbowl and make old miss proud.

SPEAKER_06 (01:41:08):
And then what happens after that?
Just a quick prediction from youfrom that standpoint.
Where does he go?

SPEAKER_04 (01:41:14):
He's gonna win that egg bowl, and he's going to make
old miss proud.

SPEAKER_06 (01:41:19):
Yeah, but he's doing a press conference the next day.
Where is he gonna leave or is hegonna stay?
Should I stay or should I go?

SPEAKER_04 (01:41:26):
He's gonna make old miss proud.

SPEAKER_06 (01:41:28):
Okay.

SPEAKER_04 (01:41:30):
Living dying Dixie.

SPEAKER_06 (01:41:32):
Okay.

SPEAKER_04 (01:41:33):
I mean, all of those school are in Dixie, but
nonetheless.
Uh, give me the Falcons on themoney line.
I I don't like to take theFalcons.
I don't believe in the Falcons.
I don't trust the Falcons, butthe Jets stink.

SPEAKER_05 (01:41:43):
They do, they suck.

SPEAKER_04 (01:41:45):
And and then finally, give me the Seahawks
minus nine and a half.
Um the Vikings have a terriblequarterback, a terrible NFL
quarterback.

SPEAKER_06 (01:41:55):
And JJ's not even starting.

SPEAKER_03 (01:42:00):
Carson's back?

SPEAKER_06 (01:42:01):
No, it's uh Max Brosner.
You ever heard of him?

SPEAKER_04 (01:42:06):
This is really scary going into this.

SPEAKER_06 (01:42:07):
Well, he was a quarterback in Minnesota last
year.
Minnesota sucks on offense incollege, so I highly doubt that
it'll make any difference in theNFL.

SPEAKER_04 (01:42:15):
Maybe he'll force feed Jettas.

SPEAKER_06 (01:42:18):
Brother, that's you're in for you're in for a
rude fucking awakening.

SPEAKER_04 (01:42:23):
I I I don't have an expectation.
I mean, I tried to trade Jettisaway weeks ago.
Nobody wanted him.

SPEAKER_06 (01:42:29):
Lee, you will be playing a playoff game next week
if everything goes the way itshould.

SPEAKER_04 (01:42:37):
Devin A.
Chain.
My workhorse.

SPEAKER_06 (01:42:42):
He's caused some nightmares for me.
I've got mine that fumbled thatgave you that win.
Because you know, yeah, so thisis a fun fact, too, before we
get off.
If I win that game, I've alreadyclinched the number one seed.
It didn't even matter whathappens this week.

SPEAKER_04 (01:42:59):
You know, if uh Dallas doesn't do that bullshit
that they did uh in the Mondaynight game, I would have
clinched Funday or Monday orTuesday morning to be exact.

SPEAKER_05 (01:43:13):
It's a game of inches, right?

SPEAKER_04 (01:43:16):
That's what she said.

SPEAKER_06 (01:43:19):
As she should.
Lee, happy Thanksgiving.
I'm sure that we'll probably betalking at some point tomorrow,
if not uh on the phone or uh Iknow we will probably definitely
be messed up, but I'm sure we'lltalk too.
But yeah, you guys have a happyThanksgiving.
Um salutations, good people.

(01:43:40):
Until next time.

SPEAKER_04 (01:43:41):
All right, we'll see y'all next week.

SPEAKER_06 (01:43:43):
All right, brother.
Take care.

SPEAKER_04 (01:43:44):
Yep.

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