Village Vets: We Ain’t Even Gotta Hold It Long

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Pain hits different when you have options—but does money actually help you heal, or just help you hide? We kick off with a raw look at heartbreak, wealth, and the myth that rich means invulnerable, using Mary J. as a cultural mirror. From there, we call out the entertainment machine for propping up familiar faces and clout over craft, then celebrate a real win: we’re taking the pod live at a Black History event in Cartersville and bringing the internet energy to the village.

Sports fans, we go deep on the Falcons’ identity shift—finally getting under center, leaning on play action, and letting a nasty defense shine. We challenge the Kirk Cousins price tag, weigh coaching futures, and ask whether Atlanta keeps hiring for city vibes instead of football culture. Then it’s quarterback politics 101: Shadur vs Dylan Gabriel is more than arm talent; it’s size, scheme fit, whiteboard comfort, and the brutal truth that draft capital and job security often decide who plays.

The culture conversation hits hard with Lizzo, Ozempic, and the body positivity rollercoaster. We push past slogans to talk health, standards, and why the real pressure point might be the BBL boom and algorithm-approved bodies. Confidence isn’t a filter; it’s habits and honesty. Tattoos become a thread through identity—how we rewrite ourselves after hard seasons, how policy and perception shape what we show, and why some stories need ink.

We land on practical game: travel rules that keep the crew tight, wingman ethics, and how not to fumble a night by ordering like a baller on someone else’s dime. It’s funny, unfiltered, and useful—equal parts barbershop and breakdown. If you’re here for sharp takes, locker room realism, and conversations that refuse to pick the easy side, you’ll feel at home.

If you rocked with this one, follow the show, share it with a friend, and drop a review telling us where you stand—does money change pain, or just the choices you make to outrun it?

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Episode Transcript

SPEAKER_01 (00:36):
Mary Just tough too, though.
It's just those rainy days.

SPEAKER_00 (00:46):
I love when she's hurt.

SPEAKER_01 (00:48):
She snap out now.
I love when she's hurt.
She just gets drunk then.
Stop being aggressive and shebreaking shit.
She but then she sang about it.
She ain't doing it no way.
Nobody's saying Mary ain't doingno drinking no more.
She done changed.
She's the TV star now.
She's too rich.

(01:09):
Can't never be too rich.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10):
I mean, she's too rich to do this.
You don't hurt like that whenyou got money like that.

SPEAKER_01 (01:14):
I ain't gonna say that.
I ain't gonna say that.
I ain't gonna say that.
Hell no.
You gotta remember them rich,the the ones with most money,
them the ones that be thehurtest.

SPEAKER_00 (01:23):
But look here, you you may be more hurt on the
inside.
But think of all the ways youcan get out of being hurt.
That's go.
But you I mean, I know thatstuff doesn't make you whole.
Yeah, it don't make you whole.
But until you get whole, you gota whole lot more than us regular
niggas down here.

SPEAKER_01 (01:44):
I ain't gonna say that, bro.
Because again, like when if youever look at it, if you be
looking at like just let's goback.
I guess whenever you look atthose, other than those like
four o'clock commercials thatused to come on on BT, if you
look at like the poor kids ofthe like Africa, you don't ever
see them like frowning, youdon't ever see them.
Like if you I know you watchbaddies.

SPEAKER_00 (02:03):
I'm not, I don't watch baddies.

SPEAKER_01 (02:04):
You do watch baddies.
Well, they had they had a scenein baddies where they went to
Africa and all the kids was Imean, they was living in damn
like little shacks type shit.
Man, they still everybody in thedancing, partying, having a good
time, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (02:18):
Because that's what they know.
And I'm and I and look, I'm I'mnot saying that again on the
inside you feel better, but theways that you get to act and
things you get to do to takeyour mind off the hurt.
Oh golly, I don't know.
Mary can keep herself busy allday long.

(02:39):
She can fly here, go buy that,go do this, go eat that.
Uh uh, she ain't got you hurtdifferent when you broke and
inspired and you ain't got shit.

SPEAKER_01 (02:48):
That's a you know what I'm saying?
No, no, that I mean you hurtdifferent when you know it
though, like when you know thatlife, I feel, and that's only if
you know that life for real.
But if you regular neglect, Imean, it ain't nothing to be
broke to be out here partying,and you know all that good
stuff.
Um I don't feel personally.

SPEAKER_00 (03:06):
Well, personally, as somebody who uh is broke and
ain't been broke before, I don'tknow how to party, carry on, and
do stuff broke.
I I don't know how to be broke.

SPEAKER_01 (03:18):
I mean, yeah, I don't know how to say that.

SPEAKER_00 (03:21):
And I know some people would consider what I was
how I was living as broke, sobroke is relative, but
unemployed for four months isthat you know that's broke, you
know kind of broke.
I mean, it nah, it ain't theworst kind of no, bro.

SPEAKER_01 (03:36):
It's not at all, and you can't even you can't use
that because again, bruh, you Iain't gonna we ain't talking,
but I'm saying you was able tobe set up to be straight.
If you go back to folks whoain't never had the extras that
you had, them folks they andthey don't know what they don't
know what money looked like andall the fun stuff look like.
Man, shit.
If we us living in that littleuh apartment over there in the

(03:59):
project, you having you knowgood life, you still having a
good time, all the kids andeverybody still have fun now
until they go see the folks withall the money and the jets and
the I mean in the jet boat skisand all that good stuff, but
whatever.

SPEAKER_00 (04:11):
Now imagine them them broke people you're talking
about.
If they understood my brokesituation, they would say I'm
not broke.
Facts, and they would be havingsome good fun.
I forgot how to have that kindof fun.

SPEAKER_01 (04:30):
That's the thing, and that's the thing.
Once you take money out of it,it ain't it really, you really
still gotta be regular.
That's what that's why I'mtelling you.
With Mary, just because she gotmoney, bruh.
I guarantee you, she might becrazier now.
I get I guarantee you, she mightbe sitting over there crazy in
the Diddy gone, but she ain'tputting it in the music.

(04:50):
What she is move, she'll TV starnow.
She gotta put it in the acting.
I bet she that's uh that'swhat's her name.
Uh what's her name?
Toretta, Toretta, yeah.
Man, come on.
Is it some Tyler Peri orsomething?
No, she on Fitz show.
Oh same thing.
The boy you don't have to be agood actor.

SPEAKER_00 (05:13):
No, I'm just saying that you don't have to act well
to be in their shows, in theirmovies, you know.
It's like for for uh for 50,it's rappers and ex-rappers,
yeah, and for Tyler Perry, it'swashed up black actors and
actresses.

SPEAKER_01 (05:30):
I ain't gonna say what I want to say in that.

SPEAKER_00 (05:33):
Well, uh, you know, you he sometimes allegedly likes
to uh employ uh you know itspieces, folks.

SPEAKER_01 (05:45):
He can follow on us.

SPEAKER_00 (05:48):
It may be mutual, it's mutual, you know.

SPEAKER_01 (05:51):
That's the type trick.
That man said he didn't want tobe talked to like that.
He wanted that role, didn't he?
He got that role too, didn't he?
The little role play for therole.

SPEAKER_00 (06:01):
He definitely got that role too.
And then that role dried up, andthen he started talking.
Oh man, so Tyler Perry just cuthim off.
He didn't want to pay a sidepiece no more.
So get on out of here.
I gave you a job, I gave you aname.
You might be able to worksomewhere.

SPEAKER_01 (06:17):
So when you say side piece, what and this is this
alleged.
Oh, like do you think they wasyou think he was like singing
him, or do you think they wouldjust like text messaging?
Because again, that's all he wasdoing.

SPEAKER_00 (06:29):
I seen all the I remember he said that one time
he was like Tyler came in theroom with him at the when he's
putting the house.

SPEAKER_01 (06:36):
He said they just came in the room, he just
grabbed him from behind, right?
Like he said he didn't, he justgrabbed him in.

SPEAKER_00 (06:43):
Have you ever got behind a piece of ass that you
wanted and laid in the bed withand grabbed it from behind?
I mean, yeah, right.
I mean a man.
What did you do after you putthat big hug on and put your
meat right in between those twocheeks?
What did you do after that?

SPEAKER_01 (07:01):
Uh I mean, I ain't as freaky as y'all, so I
probably end up going to sleepor something getting relaxed.
Again, I don't know.
That's why I'm saying this gotmore kids than me.
I know that right.
I know that right.
But no, that's what, but bruh, Idon't know.
I don't know, man.
It's I don't know.
It's it's that's it's it's it'sI wouldn't, I wouldn't, I don't

(07:24):
know if we can say what's theright word.
I'm trying to think of theright.
I don't know if we can say it.
I'm still not gonna let you sayTyler Perry and 50 the same, uh,
but I am gonna say I just saidthey employ the same type of
people.
I get it, and that's what I'msaying.
I don't think 50 would ever dothat to nobody.

SPEAKER_00 (07:41):
Oh, no, no, for God, you know, no, no, no.
I would never put I would neverput those allegations on anybody
unless I saw it, um, uhwitnessed it, or uh, you know,
uh didn't know or got a firsthand account from somebody who
was a victim.

SPEAKER_01 (07:58):
And um what a freak it.
Hey, how you doing, man?
I'm good, dog.
I'm good, man.
What about yourself?

SPEAKER_00 (08:09):
Doing all right, man.
Uh, you know, just looking atthe mic over here.

SPEAKER_01 (08:15):
Yeah.
Which mic?
Which one?
The the other one.
Yeah, you know, Dean's mic.
You know, he's he's not here.
Shout out, my boy Dino, man.
Little T3 came in the building.
He ain't supposed to be herethis week.
He's supposed to be gone.
Uh, and and I ain't gonna saywhat he said either, but he's
supposed to be in daddy mode.
That's all.
He's just taking care ofbusiness, man.

(08:36):
Shout out Dino.

SPEAKER_00 (08:38):
Yeah, shout out to Dean, shout out to three T3.
Uh, I'm gonna call him Lil Todd.

SPEAKER_01 (08:43):
I'm gonna call him three.

SPEAKER_00 (08:44):
Because he's you know, he's like little Todd.
You know, not like we call ToddLil Todd.
Yeah, yeah, that's Lil Todd.
Lil Lil Todd.
Yeah, little little Todd.
Nah, but nah, I don't know.
But shout out to Dean.
Happy for you, shout out toDraca.
Um, I know y'all got y'all'sfamily and all of that stuff,
but hey man, you family, youknow what I mean?

(09:05):
We got we got another one to thefamily, for sure, for sure.
And we look forward to being uma part of that journey.
For sure.
Well, um hold on before you getto anything else.
I also uh you know we gotbooked.

SPEAKER_01 (09:20):
But what yeah, I know, I mean, I didn't know you
had called me and told me youdidn't answer the phone when you
were trying to tell me about it,but I don't know what we got
booked for.

SPEAKER_00 (09:32):
So we got booked to uh to a live pod at the uh black
history event in Cartersville,downtown.

SPEAKER_03 (09:44):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (09:45):
They know what we talk about, don't they?
I mean, we they no, we don't wewe don't need that for that.

SPEAKER_01 (09:55):
Well, we need we well, we ain't changed, we're
gonna have to do a regular shownow.
If we just because we it's forus.
Oh, okay.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, so it's we're gonna beable to keep our same vibe.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (10:06):
It's our show.
We can set up, we we gonna getwe have our space and we can set
up how we want to.

SPEAKER_01 (10:12):
All right, sure enough.
No, I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_00 (10:15):
Yeah, they uh they talked to management.
I didn't know that.
They didn't talk to you though,did they?
I didn't get I didn't talk aboutnothing, did it?
Me neither.

SPEAKER_01 (10:22):
They talked to management.
Who management shout out nextman Dean is whack 100, bro?
Boy, I want boy.
You know how bad I want to cusshim outside today.
Dean said plays that we don'tknow nothing about.
No, I didn't know that, butyeah, we're gonna be able to do

(10:43):
that.
We love to be there, bro.
Like, Dean, who the fuck are youbooking?
That's I mean, when did so howdid it how the conversation go?

SPEAKER_00 (10:52):
Oh man, I walked in, saw Dean spoke, saw Trey Benham,
and then uh Trey Benham gotright too.
I mean, nigga, we on the flyeralready.
It's a flyer, yeah.
It's not out yet, but it's madeand we own it.
Our name, not like our picture.
Yeah, that's I mean that's cool.

(11:12):
We we need to get some merchbefore then.

SPEAKER_01 (11:15):
If we would have known, we probably could have.
No, we got I mean, we got tillFebruary, yeah.
I know I'm saying, but if wewould have known ahead of time,
we could have Dean.
If we would have let us know, wecould have started getting
everything as soon as he saidsomething.
But yeah, no, so I'm with thatfor sure.
We we definitely that's where westing them.
We definitely go do that thoughfor sure.
We can definitely get in thereand do our thing.

SPEAKER_00 (11:34):
But on a serious note, shout out to Black Bartow.
Thank you for the thank you forthinking of us, like we greatly
appreciate it, and we lookforward to actually taking the
show off the internet and uhinteracting with the village,
you know, like the people we doit for, and some of the people
who don't even know that weexist.
Hopefully, you know, we can makean imprint and uh you tune in.

SPEAKER_01 (11:57):
That's real.
That's real, that's real.
Well, I'm about to say we wewhat you told the room.
Uh I put it in the group.
Well, you're the pushing itforward because I can call them.
I'm about to say I didn't wantto just go ahead and jump and
get started because I definitelywant to get uh touch on this
next topic because it wasactually one of them funny ones
that really got my attention.

SPEAKER_00 (12:18):
He might he might be hey uh we on.
Don't say that, Rue.
He put you in the box.
Oh, oh yeah, we're my bad.
Yeah, we we recording.

SPEAKER_02 (12:31):
All right, huh?

SPEAKER_00 (12:35):
It's already in the group text.
I said he had asleep.

SPEAKER_01 (12:42):
We can come back to that within about to say, I want
to read.

SPEAKER_00 (12:45):
Oh, yeah, he went out last night.

SPEAKER_01 (12:46):
Oh, okay, that makes sense.
I I want to jump.
Let's let's go to the bottomfirst and work work our way up.

SPEAKER_00 (12:51):
Oh, yeah, yeah, let's start there.

SPEAKER_01 (12:53):
Because I'm really I'm shout out to the Falcons,
man.
How do you feel about them?
Uh we suck still, and I I'm Iwasn't impressed.
I mean, it was like it was twolosing teams beating on each
other, but it was the betterlosing team that won.
And I mean, really, if beingreal, and I just and I have to

(13:15):
call a spade a spade, if theSaints clear up a bunch of their
mistakes, make some field goals,it's still a game,
realistically.
You know what I'm saying?
Especially in the fourthquarter, it's still a game.
And we didn't put it away forreal until the moon ball.
You know what I'm saying?
And I feel like Kirk cousin.

(13:39):
Am I a Kirk fan?
I appreciate what he what hewhat he's doing for the team.
Like when stepping in being aleader, getting everybody the
ball.
However, 180 million for whathe's doing, absolutely not.
You know, and I'm just not thatimpressed all around.

SPEAKER_00 (13:57):
So I think Kirk Cousins played well.
No Drake London.
Uh bad team, yes.
But I said this at the beginningof the season.
I said, what if today KirkCousins healthy is better than

(14:18):
Michael Penix?
I understand you Michael Penixmay be good enough.
The team around Michael Penixmay be good enough to carry.
And you care about him long termand all that stuff, right?
But Kirk Cousins, if he'shealthy, he's probably better
than Michael Penix.
And we look at how the teamstarted last year.

(14:40):
Well, we were six and threethrough our first nine games.
We see Kirk Cousins with a fullweek of practice.
And oh my god, we're not inpistol, we're under center.
And we're running play actionpass and we're throwing from
under center.
The thing that Michael Penixcouldn't do or can't do.
Maybe Kirk getting hurt and thentrying to play through it, and

(15:02):
then Penix playing well enoughlast year, was why they didn't
want us to see any of Penix,like even in preseason.
Because maybe they wanted tocontinue develop to develop him
to get him comfortable undercenter so they could run under
center, pistol, gun, and keepthe offense a bit more
unpredictable.

SPEAKER_01 (15:20):
Yeah.
I can understand.
I mean, I can definitelyunderstand that because, like I
said, it did look good tofinally be able to get back
under the center and not be inpistol for 52 plays.
You know what I'm saying?
And finally go gun every once.
You know, we we we can move theball around a lot more.
We got Bijan, we got top,everybody was able to contribute
a lot more, and especially withno, we didn't get to overpass uh

(15:43):
overpass to uh Drake London thewhole game, or we didn't have to
make Penix forced a lot.
Intentional ground, you knowwhat I'm saying?
He loves intentional ground tobe core exactly.
So it looked good.
I mean, everybody like they wantto be out there.
We look home.
Our defense is our defense, bro.
I I I feel like we gotpersonally the top three for

(16:08):
real all season.
Top three.
I know we number two, right?
In uh defense.
I don't know where we are now,but I watch I watch us play
every week.
And I think the our defense isstill number two, real, but
overall, bro, I think it's justit was fun seeing Kurt this
week.
However, when we go play, Ithink it's next week or December

(16:28):
11th, excuse me.
Whenever we go uh line upagainst Tampa Bay again, we're
gonna get to see what's goingon.
I think um their defense iscomparable to ours, and and
their offense is actually betterthan ours, I believe, expect.
But, you know, they just lost umthey just lost the uh buddy.
Yeah, Baker.
Baker, yeah, they just lostBaker.

SPEAKER_00 (16:49):
So right before the playoffs.

SPEAKER_01 (16:52):
Exactly.
That does it suck.
That's your quarterback, right?
One two teams.
Yeah, but I mean, you know.

SPEAKER_00 (17:00):
I'm in first place in the locker room league, by
the way.
That's cool.
Um so what are your thoughts onhard R?
Hard R the run right now.
Coach was a good thing.
Um, I'm do you think you shouldcome back next year?

SPEAKER_01 (17:16):
It's tough to say.
It's tough to say.
Right now, it's tough to say.
I'm I'm kinda over it, but Idon't want to give up.
I guess if that's the right.

SPEAKER_00 (17:30):
You don't want to be the nigga saying fire that
nigga.

SPEAKER_01 (17:33):
Nah, because I don't mind saying it.
I don't mind saying it.
It's just right now we gave himwe gave him two full seasons,
right?
This is a second season.
That's what I'm saying.
At the end of this is gonna be asecond full season.
I feel like I just don't, Idon't know.
I don't know what else he cangive us.
You know what I'm saying?

(17:53):
Like being real, I don't knowwhat else he can.
I don't really ever see him getpissed off.
I like a like a quarter, I likea coach to get pissed off.
I like him that's gonna really,you know, get what it pierced.
Oh, I like somebody who getsextra.
He's watching the show.
Oh, yeah.
I like somebody who getsaggressive sometimes.
I don't like somebody who justkeeps sitting around and wanting

(18:14):
to look cool on camera.
He ain't knocked, ain't, ain't,ain't knocking no water, no
juice or nothing over there.
You know what I ain't didnothing.
It's just tough for me, bro.
It's real, it's tough right now.

SPEAKER_00 (18:24):
So I say they fired that nigga.
I'm really curious how he gotthe job.
Like, what did what did RaheemMorris do that was better than
Bill Belichick, better than JimHarbaugh, better than Mike
Brabel, better than Ben Johnson.

SPEAKER_01 (18:40):
I feel like he fit it in the when he came on.
I feel like he fit the the wholelook for Atlanta at that time.
Like, I feel like he fit thelook.
We've I feel like he would havehad the young the younger guys
was able to to adjust the ohbecause he delivered, uh yeah,
but then again, it's like andwith Belichick coming here, is
Belichick in this no disrespect,you know, so and this is a real

(19:03):
question.
Is Belichick established withoutTV?

SPEAKER_00 (19:07):
Yes, so he's the yeah, yeah, yeah.
He drafted Tom Brady, uh, hehelped develop Tom Brady.
And what made Tom Brady such agreat quarterback was that those
two would go back and forth.
Like if Brady did something,Belichick would break down to
him how he would attack it withhis defense.
So that's how Tom Brady learnedhow to break down defense is by

(19:28):
learning how to break down BillBelichick's defense, and he's
the greatest defensive mindfootball has ever seen.
So it is so all the it it's amarriage.
Like, understand, Tom Brady wasa game manager when he started,
you know, get the ball toreceiver, they but they ran the

(19:49):
ball, played defense, playedspecial teams.
Then he was airing that bitchout as he got as he developed,
but like he had all those yearsto develop, and they give him a
little piece, give him a littlepiece, give him a little piece,
and then he finally could go gethim a whole pizza, like you do
when you go to Lil' Seasons forsure.

SPEAKER_01 (20:06):
So I get it.
So I mean, but then again, Ijust don't know.
I feel like I don't know thatthat's that's that was the only
question I was asking.
Then Mike Vape, Mike Brabel,what he doing, what he doing out
there is it's solid, you know.
Because again, I wasn'tthinking, I didn't think it was
gonna be nothing realistic.

SPEAKER_00 (20:24):
I didn't think they were gonna be this good.
Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 (20:26):
That's what I said.
I wasn't thinking they was gonnabe nothing.
So I don't know.
No, we got Raheem the Rara guy,hard R.
I feel like Raheem in thebeginning, though, he fit the
mode for sure.
Like he fit it.

SPEAKER_00 (20:39):
He he fit the city, yeah.
That's the problem with theFalcons.
They just want to fit the city,they want to have Travis Porter
come perform, Bone Crush, alittle scrappy, Goldberg, three
dollar hot dogs.
You know what I mean?
Uh we got uh the swag surfingniggas there every every week,
you know.
Shout out to Arthur for beingthe stimulus check.
Because I'm sure a lot of thesepeople need it.

(21:00):
Um but they be too focused onthe the culture of the city, not
the the co uh the culture of thefootball program.

SPEAKER_01 (21:06):
But you gotta remember the culture of the city
is what pay uh what pay Arthur.
That's the one that was bringingeverything in.

SPEAKER_00 (21:13):
When when Matt Ryan was here and had this thing
humming, he was not the cultureof the city.

SPEAKER_01 (21:20):
That's a fact.

SPEAKER_00 (21:20):
And a lot of niggas didn't like Matty Ice, that's a
fact.
They turned on him, but you knowwhat he was doing, he was
getting us to the playoffsconsistently early in his career
with game-winning drives.
Now we he we couldn't accept himthe way we needed to because he
wasn't Vic.
He wasn't Vic, and that wasfresh off of Vic.
But don't you miss Matt Ryan?

(21:41):
Imagine Matt Ryan with this teamthat we got right now.
I ain't bro, we can't I ain'tdoing that because again, Matt.

SPEAKER_01 (21:47):
Yeah, Julio, yeah, Roddy, yeah, Tony Guzari.

SPEAKER_00 (21:50):
I got you, but with this running back with Drake
London, Drake London like is atop 10 receiver, he just don't
get credit because he plays forthe Falcons.
With Matt Ryan with thisdefense, Julio Jones was a top
two receiver all time.
I got you, but I'm saying thethe team in itself, having a
weapon, having the running back,have I mean, and with Kyle Pitts

(22:10):
was good with Matt Ryan hisrookie year.
But then having that defense,haven't Matt Ryan having that
defense, he rarely had weapondefense in running game.
We didn't even have a greatdefense or Super Bowl year.
We just get up and get a passrush.
So Matt Ryan with this team, ateam that give up 20, 24 a game,

(22:33):
he's gonna get you to 28.

SPEAKER_01 (22:36):
I don't know, bro.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I mean, I I like you know, I'mstill I'm a Matt fan.
I'm always with him.
But it's kind of like I'm justnah, I just wasn't after I don't
know, bro.
I can't really, I can't reallysay.
I can't really say.
I feel like Matt and Kurt areclose to being the same people.

SPEAKER_00 (22:56):
Matt Ryan is MVP.
He he again got us to theplayoffs consistently.
Now the end of his career whenhe was done, it looked terrible.
But that wasn't what Matt Ryanwas to the city.
We were consistent attender forthe NFC NFC side.

SPEAKER_01 (23:12):
Well, yeah, the Matt win MVP.

SPEAKER_00 (23:14):
2016 Super Bowl, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (23:20):
Yeah, that is ooh.
Nick used to give you fits.
He was the real number three.
He used to give me fits in what?
Uh nothing.
Nothing.
Hear me.
No, yeah, no.
But yeah, nah.
Also, in football, shout out myboy Shadir.

(23:40):
See what I'm saying?
Shout out Shadur.
He looked like a dog out there.
He said, give him the time, theperfect timing.

SPEAKER_00 (23:46):
He said he we'll get to yeah, we'll get to that a
little bit later, but he said alittle too much.
But I'm I'm happy for him.

SPEAKER_01 (23:52):
What you what'd he say?
What'd he say?
No, hell no.
I don't like how you get thatstarted and don't get all the
way to the point.
What'd he say?

SPEAKER_00 (24:00):
Uh I don't really know.
I can't do his voice.
I haven't studied enough to gethis cadence down right, yeah.
Um, but uh, you know, he saidthat was just for one week of
preparation.
Imagine a whole offseason.
You know what I'm saying?
Uh that's just like Shador.
I I come on, bro.

(24:20):
Why are you throwing shots atthe coach for not starting you?
Well, nah, nah.
That's the coach.
That's the guy who controls ifyou get to start.

SPEAKER_01 (24:28):
I get it.

SPEAKER_00 (24:28):
But come on, man.
How can you don't do it in themedia?

SPEAKER_01 (24:32):
I mean, I get it.
I get what you're saying.

SPEAKER_00 (24:34):
Stand in the locker room when the cameras ain't in
there.

SPEAKER_01 (24:37):
No, bro.
You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 (24:38):
But don't do that, like you're not in a in a
position to dictate anything.

SPEAKER_01 (24:43):
I don't know.
I don't know, bro.
Because again, I hear you, and Idefinitely agree.
You're absolutely right on that.
But then again, to make this manwait till week 13, 14, he eat
him and he done been riding abench out, ain't said a word,
been quiet.
Now he finally got out there andhe ball out.
Come on, man, you gotta give himsomething.
Y'all done move, y'all done puttwo quarterbacks in front of

(25:06):
him.

SPEAKER_00 (25:07):
L Joe Flacco was better than him for sure.
And Dylan Gabriel was draftedbefore him.
So, in their estimation, he wasbetter than him.

SPEAKER_01 (25:16):
I get it, but no, but if when we're talking about
in practice, though, MilesGarrett said that uh Miles
Garrett said himself, Shador wasthe best quarterback out there
in front of Jay Flacco and uhWell, Miles Garrett, he gets 40
million a year, you know thatright.

SPEAKER_00 (25:30):
And he and he just signed a new contract.
So Miles Garrett can saywhatever the hell he wants.
But he can be but hold on, hecan be telling the truth.
Shador could have very well beenthe best quarterback day one.
But for people to keep theirjobs, the third round pick has

(25:51):
to get a chance before the fifthround pick.
Because the people who liked thethird round pick, whether it's
the coach, whether it's one ofthe scouts, the GM, whoever it
was that liked him, is in who inthe decision maker's ear saying
whatever needs to be said.
Because if this guy sucks andShador is better, it's like,

(26:14):
well, hold on.
Why do we even waste a draftpick on this guy if we know if
this guy's better, we got himlater.
We could have got a starter inthe third round, like a day one
starter in the third round.
But answer this money drown.
So people are trying to protecttheir jobs.

SPEAKER_01 (26:28):
But answer this ain't the NFL a business.
Yeah.
All right, cool.
Who had the who had the numberone selling jersey in the NFL
this season?
Uh, I don't know.
Shador has the number oneselling uh jersey in the NFL in
uh his well, excuse me, I ain'tgonna say in the whole league,
but I know when that whole draftclass and I don't know how
everybody, he has the number oneselling jersey.

(26:50):
If that's the case, you go withwho's selling.
If that's the case, you know itwould be Sean Watson being out.

SPEAKER_00 (26:57):
But the football people, uh-huh, they don't care
about the business, they careabout the football and they care
about keeping their job.
So they are going to say thingsto the football decision makers
to inform to make them lookgood.
I understand what you're sayingabout the money, but the only

(27:17):
people caring about the moneyare the is the owner and the
people on the business side ofthe house.
Football coach ain't worriedabout that.
He's worried about football.
The GM.
I know he understands moneybecause he has to balance the
salary cap, but the salary capis the salary cap, and he knows
they have that much money tospend.
So he's not worried about howwe're making money, he's worried

(27:40):
about the roster.
So the football people, I'msure, could give a shit less
about the guy with the jerseysales, but the guy who said,
Hey, this is why we we wantedDylan Gabriel, is saying we got
to play Dylan Gabriel, and whenhe's not playing well, well,
this is blah blah blah.
And then if Shador doessomething, oh man, you see that
old man.
Shador is just doing this, he'snot even taking it seriously.

(28:01):
Like, people do stuff to try tobuild a narrative to validate
their existence because nobodywants to pull their kid out of
private school and lose thatsix-figure or seven-figure job,
depending on who you are.

SPEAKER_01 (28:12):
Yeah, and I I can understand that too, but I feel
like the reason Shador can dothat is because Dylan Gabriel,
in no disrespect, because Idon't know his parents or his
family life, but I know hedidn't come in the league like
Shador is.
He didn't come in with alreadychips and dip, N I L D, my daddy
D.
I'm solidified.
I got my jersey sales high.

(28:32):
Like I can be like this becauseagain, I'm not saying in no
disrespect, but again, he I'mnot saying he's playing for a
check.
He's not playing for an NFLcheck, dude playing because he
loved the game.
You can tell after this week,you see how effortless it was
for him to get out here andball.
Like, not saying nothing wrongwith Dylan Gabriel because I
actually like him too.
Oh, I think he's terrible.

(28:53):
I know I like it, I like hisplay.
I ain't gonna say nothing.
I like his play.

SPEAKER_00 (28:56):
I think Dylan Gabriel's terrible.
I I wouldn't draft DylanGabriel, like no, no, no, like
that why not because he's fivefoot eleven.
Is he?
Yeah, he's short, he doesn'thave a strong arm, he's like
he's lesser than Tua.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Is five eleven facts?
Let me see.
Yes, Dylan Gabriel's a midget,he doesn't look like an NFL

(29:18):
player.
It's one thing to roll the dicelike that on Tua because it was
tank for Tua.
Tua was a top prospect, but I'mnot doing that for Dylan
Gabriel.
I'm not putting my job on theline for Dylan Gabriel.
If I'm Kevin Stefansky, hell no,we're not drafting this kid.
He's undersized.
Where did he come from?
He's Hawaiian.

SPEAKER_01 (29:40):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (29:41):
Same pipeline as Tua.

SPEAKER_01 (29:43):
Okay, it's 5'11.

SPEAKER_00 (29:45):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (29:47):
No, I damn sure didn't know that.
I damn sure didn't know that atall.

SPEAKER_00 (29:50):
Yeah, you're probably a larger human being
than Dylan Gabriel, like heightand weight.
I'm not calling you fat, butit's not.
No, it's not a fat joke.
I'm just saying.
No, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 (30:01):
I get it though.

SPEAKER_00 (30:02):
You're not an NFL player.

SPEAKER_01 (30:03):
Yeah, facts.
Facts.

SPEAKER_00 (30:05):
You shouldn't walk in a room.
Yeah, he'd be cut up, but likeyou shouldn't walk in a room.
Man, bigger than a quarterback.
Come on now.

unknown (30:13):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (30:14):
No, I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_00 (30:15):
Yeah, he's a shrimp.
He probably walking aroundforever.

SPEAKER_01 (30:19):
Probably 187.

SPEAKER_00 (30:20):
I'm about to say 190.
187.
He might not right now.
I'm 172.
Yeah.
He might side four months ago.

SPEAKER_03 (30:32):
190.

SPEAKER_00 (30:33):
It's proportioned differently, but still.
Same amount of mass.
What the fuck are you doing inthe NFL playing quarterback?
You can't see over six six, lefttackle, right tackle.

SPEAKER_01 (30:43):
Coming from that blind side.

SPEAKER_00 (30:45):
Come on.
Imagine me standing behind Roof.
Yeah.
With trails back.

SPEAKER_03 (30:50):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (30:54):
I can't see shit.
And you want me to throw theball at somebody 40 yards away?
And then somebody else that'sroof size with trails back is in
front of you?

SPEAKER_01 (31:09):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (31:10):
Chasing me.

SPEAKER_01 (31:11):
I damn sure know you.

SPEAKER_00 (31:12):
Nah.
Come on, bruh.
Like, you ain't risking your jobon him.
At least your door is idealsize.
He got he has the arm.
He has the anticipation.
He may not be the best on theboard.
I he may not be the bestcognitively.

SPEAKER_03 (31:29):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (31:29):
Because the way he talks is I know he's Dion's son,
and we don't want to, but youknow.
It appears that it takes histhoughts longer to go from brain
to brain.
I mean, it's like uh yeah, butCharles Barclays is fluid, you

(31:51):
know, like he's country and youcan see him loading, but it's
still fluid, like he has a fluidcadence.
You can listen to CharlesBarclay talk.

SPEAKER_01 (31:59):
That's who we I mean, but that's who should do
remind me of.
Like a like a new school CharlesBarclay, as slow as him.
Uh you got that drag to all hiswords type shit.

SPEAKER_00 (32:09):
You know how we were in school and you had students
in your class, but they had ateacher.

SPEAKER_03 (32:17):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (32:21):
You're still fully functioning.
But you know, you don't you ondialogue and we on Wi-Fi.
That's all.

SPEAKER_01 (32:31):
I take a little bit longer.

SPEAKER_00 (32:32):
That's what he gives me the mind of.
And I'm not trying to be funny,I'm just really trying.
Like, I don't know a better wayto describe it so that people
will understand exactly what Imean.

SPEAKER_01 (32:41):
Me, I help it out.
So, meaning if he couldn't, ifhe couldn't throw the ball 80
yards down the field, he theywouldn't look at it and say, he
would if he couldn't throw theball down the field, he wouldn't
deal as the son.
Yeah, I get it.
I get it.

SPEAKER_00 (32:55):
He'd still be a hell of a football player, but it's
just but some of that, and Ithink some of that stuff that
they want a quarterback to showthat's not on the field, yeah,
that give again peopleprotecting their job.
Because you can't just say, Imean, look at the film.
We met with him.
Yeah, he wasn't great on thewhiteboard, but he understands
the concepts, right?
He he knows what he's doing, andsome of this is he has a feel

(33:15):
for the game, he's notstructured, which is how Shador
plays.
I think one of the issues he hadwith Stefansky was Stefansky
wants the offense to be ran acertain way.
Dylan Gabriel is that type ofquarterback who will catch boom
boom here, catch boom, boomthere.
By the book type, yeah.
Shador, he might hit that backleg, and something is open, but

(33:37):
he wants something else, andhe's gonna roll out and go get
it, like he did on that play, onthat one big play.
You know what I'm saying?
Uh-huh.
Some coaches don't want that, soagain, that's another reason why
he may not have played, but alsoanother reason why he could have
dropped because some of thatstuff does not transfer over to
nerds trying to put something onpaper that you can't really put

(34:00):
on paper.
Facts, facts, yes.
And he's Deon Sun, he's rich,he's famous, and he does all
this stuff.
He's probably annoying as hell.

SPEAKER_01 (34:07):
Already, a Cartier Rolex, all that before we even
before we even get a chick inthe interview.

SPEAKER_00 (34:12):
Now think about it.
Think about him coming tointerview.
You're interviewing him to seeif you want if you want this
person to work for your company,yeah.
And he flips it on you as likeI'm interviewing you, but also
speaking the way that he y'alldo for me, yeah.
Like and but also speaking theway that he speaks, probably
iced out, he didn't work out,none of that stuff, right?
Yeah, but would you really wantto hire that guy?

SPEAKER_01 (34:33):
Yeah, I mean, I mean that's why I say it's different
though.
Like I say, I understand whatyou're saying in that point.
Is let's say if that guy istrying to come sell cars, yeah,
it's different compared to whenyou have a lifelong teacher,
coach, boss, whatever, as yourdad come and you're coming to

(34:54):
play football.

SPEAKER_00 (34:54):
But what if I don't want your dad and what your dad
is teaching you and preachingyou to influence what we're
trying to preach and teach you?
Then because your dad could bedoing what's best for you in
your career in your long term,right?
But that may not be what's bestfor the team today, or
selfishly, me the coach and myjob.

(35:16):
Your dad may say, Hey, don't letthem dumb down the offense,
don't let them have you readjust one side of the field
because you need to learn how toread the full field.
And the coach is like, I'm onthe hot seat, I need you to do
what you're good at so that wecan move the ball and win games.
I don't I can't develop you thisyear.

SPEAKER_01 (35:33):
No, I get now.
I I mean I definitely get whatyou're saying for sure, but
that's why I say it's like it'sat some point.
I didn't know like I didn't knowI didn't know if Shador was if
they were just like trying togaslight him and trying to keep
him on the sideline or what itreally was because it there's no
way they thought Dylan Gabrielwas a better player than Shador.

(35:55):
And I wasn't even trying to shiton him, but when you said it, it
was actually my thought, but Ididn't want to say I don't think
Dylan, I don't think DylanGabriel's god awful.

SPEAKER_00 (36:03):
I think he's I think he's as as a pro, not as a as a
as percentage of people playingquarterback in the world, yeah,
top top of the top of the world.
Yeah, but I'm saying as a pro incomparison to his peers.
Facts.

SPEAKER_01 (36:15):
Okay, I got you.
I got you.

SPEAKER_00 (36:16):
But yeah, bro, it's the politics of it.
You remember that there wereguys who should have played in
high school, but they may havecome from a different family, or
they had a parent that would getright with the coach, and
somebody else is a hard worker.

(36:37):
Oh man, he's finishing thedrill, you know, a couple late
hits in practice.
He's slow as hell, but he's butlike at the end of sprints, he
just pass out every time andthrowing up looking like he
pushed himself harder thaneverybody.
But really, this nigga's trashand he's out of shape, and he's
really just out of shape.
That's uh yeah, like he doesother shit on the weekend.

(36:59):
Yeah, you shouldn't be, but thecoaches love him, and we all
like man, we don't even fuckwith this nigga, and he ain't
better than our nigga that ain'tgetting burned.
Yeah, this is some bullshit, butthe politics are the politics,
and we in the locker room knowwhat's up.
That's probably the same thinggoing on there, yeah.
I think sometimes like peopleand like people on podcasts,

(37:20):
people on TV, when they starttalking about this stuff, they
don't like put themselves inthose types of situations.
And yeah, we've never played inthe NFL, but we played high
school football in Georgia.
Even if your program is trash,people care, it's a thing.
So there's locker room politics,nigga.

(37:42):
It's captains that don't leadshit on the team, they just yell
at practice, and everybody like,bruh, shut your ass up.
Your bitch ass up.
It's the niggas like they beshowing all the pregame speeches
and stuff before the game fromthe coaches and the players.
I be like, hold on, dog.
I remember these speeches now.
I remember being like, you don'tshut your ass up, man.

(38:04):
Nobody wanna hear all that shit.
You say the same shit everyweek.
Sorry, y'all.
Uh this is what happens.
You gotta like freestyle a showbecause uh guests cancel on you.

SPEAKER_01 (38:17):
Uh it's just we we we're gonna figure it out
though.
Because again, we you know wedid that's oh fuck it.
We gotta speak on that.
Yeah, no, we we are in themiddle, we did have to throw
this show together, and we wehad other plans for this show,
y'all.
Everything else is supposed tobe a whole different way, and
it's just you know rappers dowhat rappers do.
That I'm telling you, it's it'spart of the business.

(38:39):
No, he's gonna we gonna make itup.
We're gonna make it up.
It's a big storm going on, soyou know.
That's why we started the showoff with rain.
You know what I'm saying?
It's a big show, it's a bigstorm going on.

SPEAKER_00 (38:50):
So speaking of big storm, you see Lizzo big ass
talking stupid on the internet?
No, what are you talking about?
Oh man, you don't keep up withLizzo.
Fuck no.
Are you attracted to Lizzo?

SPEAKER_01 (39:04):
Are you fucking attracted to Lizzo?

SPEAKER_00 (39:07):
No, all right.

SPEAKER_01 (39:08):
Well then that answered both our questions.

SPEAKER_00 (39:10):
But I know I I know some guys who are attracted to
Lizzo.

SPEAKER_01 (39:13):
I mean, I'm not saying they ain't.
Because again, to each his own,it's probably a bunch of guys
attracted to Lizzo.
It's just you know.

SPEAKER_00 (39:22):
So uh Lizzo says Ozempic is erasing big girls in
society.
We're in an era where biggergirls are getting smaller
because they're tired of beingjudged.
What that means.
So, in an essay, she explainsthat she loves being a big girl,
but she's becoming concernedthat a lot of women are turning
towards Ozempic to change theirappearance because of the
pressures of society.

(39:44):
She claims that now there aren'tas many big girls in the
entertainment and modelingindustry because everyone is
taking weight loss drugs and isstarting to erase heavier girls.
So here we are, halfway throughthe decade where extended sizes
are being magically erased fromwebsites, plus size models are
no longer getting booked formodeling gigs, and of our big

(40:08):
girls are not so big anymore.
We have a lot of work to do toundo the effects of the Ozipic
boom.

SPEAKER_01 (40:15):
So, how come there's more?
Oh, okay.
What the fuck?

SPEAKER_00 (40:19):
Willow then gave details about how she decided to
start losing weight.
She always she has always been aproud bit girl and still is, but
she realized that a lot ofpeople didn't recognize her
talents because of her weightand it made her sad.
Then in 2023, she went throughsevere depression and was deeply
suicidal, which inspired her tostart taking her weight
seriously.

(40:40):
She claims though throughtherapy, she realized that she
was hiding behind her weight andusing it as a mask.
A big ass mask.
From that day on, she decided tostart losing weight the healthy
way and take back control of herlife.
Lastly, people could not see mytalent as a musician because

(41:00):
they were too busy accusing meof making being fat my whole
personality, she wrote.
And that's the reality thatnobody wants to talk about.
She continued, we're in an erawhere the bigger girls are

(41:22):
getting smaller because they'retired of being judged.
I want us to allow the bodypositive movement to expand and
grow far away from commercialslopits become because the
movements move.
Thoughts?

SPEAKER_01 (41:36):
No.
Oh, I mean, like it's it's so,so what I'm saying, so you're
confused, right?
Yes, I'm sounds like she'stalking out of both sides of her
neck, right?
So are they supposed so that'show big girls just are are big
girls supposed to stay big ornot, they're not supposed to
want to lose weight because theydon't they want to be healthier,

(42:00):
or or or should they stay bigbecause it's losing big girls?

SPEAKER_00 (42:04):
I'm gonna make this simpler for you.
Okay.
When Lizzo speaks, you don'tlisten.
What the fuck?
That's all I'm saying.
If she sings, tune in.
She's talented.
Big B should sing.
What song do Lizzo sing?
Not my ministry, but she hadone.

(42:31):
You know that's it.
Uh-uh.
I'm about to play.
Oh my god, what is Lizzo'sbiggest song?
Don't put out her top songs.
Okay.
What's the name of that book?

SPEAKER_01 (42:53):
I do know that song, good as hell.

SPEAKER_00 (42:55):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (42:55):
Yeah, I do.
I do.

SPEAKER_03 (42:57):
I do my hair top chicken.

SPEAKER_00 (43:00):
It's some type of shit that you hear at a bar in
San Diego.
Yeah, for sure.
And you dance with a whitewoman.
And you kiss him in the mouth.
No, I don't do that.
You kiss him in the mouth.
That's a lie, but back to Lizzo.
You know, she talks about herweight blocked, like she got
serious about her weight lossbecause it was blocking her

(43:23):
talent.
Her weight never blocked hertalent, her mouth blocked her
talent.
Because she always talked aboutbeing big and how she loved her
body and body.
Yo, dog, you ain't gotta say Ilove something all the time to
tell somebody that you love it.
It damn near makes me believethat you're overcompensating.

(43:45):
Even in a relationship, I gottatell you I love you all the
time.
Because if I love you, I'm gonnashow you.
Yeah, actions are trying to doit.
I'm trying, yes.

SPEAKER_01 (43:56):
Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (43:57):
Now, don't get me wrong, words of affirmation are
important.
Yes, you should tell yourpartner you love him.
Yeah, but don't ask me to tellyou I love you.
Don't ask for that.
You shouldn't have to.
Now, if I'm not showing, if youdon't feel love, say hey baby,
I'm not feeling love.
Don't say, damn, you ain't evensay I love you.
So now I gotta say it.

SPEAKER_01 (44:17):
Now I feel the type way if I don't say it type.
You didn't even mean it.

SPEAKER_00 (44:20):
But you're gonna be even more mad if I don't say it.
Yeah, facts.
Sorry, we're not here to bashwomen, we're to bash Liz though.
Facts.
So, what is your what are yourthoughts on the body positivity
movement?
Embracing all body size, youmust be real, bruh.

SPEAKER_01 (44:33):
I've always been I'm just pro be happy who you are.
I don't give a damn about allthat other shit.
Like, if you're happy in a biggirl skin, rock that out.
If you're happy in in theslimmer girl skin, rock that
out, but don't try to force yourlifestyle on somebody else when
you want to change it.
Because again, if you look atthis shit, Lizo was the same

(44:54):
person that was tellingeverybody she loved being big,
she loved being out in thelittle bitty clothes and stomach
out doing all that good shit.
But now she's saying that shewants you to that she embracing
the gym and depression, ohexcuse me, the gym and working
out and losing her weight andall this and that.
And she's trying to put notsaying force it, but she's

(45:15):
trying to speak that in, and youjust ain't gotta do all that.
Live, do what you want to do foryou, and you know, if if you get
some followers in the in in thecross of doing that, ride them
out.
But you ain't gotta keep talkingand preaching to us about trying
to be healthy.
If we want to eat a cheeseburgerevery day, all day, that's our
decision.

(45:35):
If we want cheese cake atnighttime, four or five in the
morning, that's our decision.
It's key lime.
I'm a key lime guy.
If we want whatever you prefer,you rock out how you rock out,
but you don't need nobodycriticizing and judging how you
move, that'd be dumb as hell.

SPEAKER_00 (45:50):
That's my opinion.
Yeah, and if she really wantedto talk about body positivity,
and yeah, I do think we have anOlympic problem.
Like, I think people should useOzimpic for its medical uses,
you should get it prescribed bya doctor, not just the online
bullshit.
That just my thoughts, not amedical professional, but I
think people should be moreintentional with losing weight

(46:13):
because it's not about losingweight, it's about having a
healthy lifestyle and healthyhabits.
But if she really wanted to getinto body positivity and the
lack of body positivity goingon, she should have attacked the
BBL epidemic.

SPEAKER_01 (46:27):
I was literally just about to say that.
So the the fact of her sayingthat, how can you speak on
somebody using Ozimpic, but youain't saying nothing about folks
who want to do the BBL or getthe uh get the uh the fat,
that's the BBL as well, but theywant to get the tummy tubs, the
mommy made the nose job, allthat good stuff, the contouring,
everybody trying to look like aKardashian.

(46:49):
Because one thing about itthough, one thing about it, and
just being real, when you superduper big, like no disrespect to
Lizzo.
If you super duper big likeLizzo, she's gonna have to get
some surgery because again, whenyou lose all that weight and you
get that soft skin, you gottaget the if you in the and that's
only if you in the light, youit'll take you a little bit
longer, but I mean you can youknow bring it together, but at

(47:11):
first, gonna be you know oatmealpies, yeah, and that's the way
it is.

SPEAKER_00 (47:16):
And let's be real, the oatmeal pies are the reason
for these high-waisted leggings.
Well, I know that well, thefoopas, too.
Yeah, because hey, look here.
Back in the day, when you woreyour leggings, I remember low
rise jeans.
That's a nasty era, especiallywhen the tongue would be up
above like right above the waythe low rise jeans.

(47:38):
But you know, it used to be aprivilege to be a girl who could
wear low rise jeans.
It was a privilege to be able towear the leggings and wear your
sports bra and nothing.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, because you worked hardfor your body, but what body
positivity did, and what thisshit Lizzo's talking about, we
accepted nothing, and now we nolonger have a standard.

(47:59):
So now we got big sloppies, wegot Ozimpic, and we got BBL.
What about this natural?
You might have a little Fupa,but you ain't gotta be big as
hell.

SPEAKER_01 (48:12):
But real niggas like foopas too, though.
I ain't gonna tell you like we alot of us we love foopas.
A lot of us we love thatstomach, that extra stomach.

SPEAKER_00 (48:18):
Did I say anything bad about foops?

SPEAKER_01 (48:20):
I ain't say you did.
And I kept bringing, I just keptbringing up foopa too.
That's why, and you keep sayingfoop, and you keep saying that
specific word.
So that's why I'm saying we alot of us we love the foops.
I know it's before that foop assis different though.

SPEAKER_00 (48:38):
But go ahead, but you but it's like let's have the
real conversation about what'sgoing on, and and the true body
positivity is it's not justembracing all bodies, it's you
embracing your body and doingwhat you need to get the body
that you want.
I'm not gonna criticizeeverybody for getting plastic

(48:58):
surgery.
You might have something on yourbody that you're not okay with,
but then I would counter youwith and say, Well, why are you
not okay with it?
You know what I mean?
Like TLC, you can buy your hairif it won't grow, you can fix
your nose if it's slow, you canbuy all the makeup a man can
make.
But if you can look inside you,find out something onto being
this make you feel today.

(49:21):
You know what I'm saying?
But no, it's the whole thing.
Like, look inside, like whatinside of you has you so
bothered by whatever your bodyis, whatever your body is doing,
that you're not comfortable.
Like me, when I get a little tooround, I get insecure.
I don't feel like myself, Idon't feel good about myself.

(49:41):
So when I get a little round andy'all start making fun of me, I
lose weight and I start to feelbetter.
I'm the same person, but for me,I know what it is.
I just don't I don't feel prettywhen I'm when I'm when I'm big.
I understand that.

SPEAKER_01 (49:57):
I understand.
Me, I feel like I ain't neverhad that goddamn problem because
again, that's why I feel you,I'm so comfortable in my skin,
bro.
It's like I've always been theone that even then, like even
now, I was the fat kid that wasgoing to the that was going to
the uh pool taking my shirt off.
Like I knew can I knew it, Iknew it was gonna get titty

(50:18):
jokes, I knew it was gonna getall those.
That's cool, but it's the factof I just you only can jump
personally on one good thing,and that's what it is, and
that's just what it is.
If you can keep going on moreshit, then now you just want to
join.
Now you just want to keep going,you want to try and tack.
And if that's the case, then nowyou just gotta fight fire with
fire.
And I feel like that's my onlything.

(50:39):
I've never been, I guess, inthat headspace to where I can
say, you know, a motherfuckercan just say just certain
things, I guess, that it wouldtrigger me and throw me all the
way off.
Only and that could be becauseI've I was bullied my whole
life, you know what I'm saying?
Like literally, and it's fuckedup, but it's like it's literally
that could be the thing.

(50:59):
It's like when you grow up withsisters like I did, you grow up
in the environment with olderfolks, with my sisters thinking
I can hang with them, but thennow they treat me like them, and
shit be differently, so you knowit's just that's I guess that
could be the thing.

SPEAKER_00 (51:15):
But this right here was a productive body positivity
conversation, right?
You talked about how you embraceyour body, I talk about what it
takes for me to embrace mine,right?
And uh yeah, it's an insecurity,but for me, I know it and I deal

(51:39):
with it.
And I'm willing to do the workto be the person I want to be,
to make myself happy, and that'swhat it's all about being happy
in the skin that you're in, notchasing a a look that's not you,
like that.
That's my that's that's where Iget weird about the cosmetic
surgery and shit.
You know what I'm saying?

(51:59):
Like I get trying to improveyourself, but you don't even
look the same, like that's notyou, you know what I mean?
Like, you don't have a big ass,you don't have to have a big ass
to get fucked.
Yeah, I mean, you don't haveabs.
It's okay, dog.
You ain't gotta get them shitslike stenciled on, bro.

SPEAKER_01 (52:18):
Speaking of those, you think Desi got real abs, or
do you think he worked forthose?
No homo, only because I've Ilooked in Desi two months ago
was BJ, and now I look back theother week and I keep saying,
like, these niggas able to getsix packs, and they even getting
the side joints to where I'mlike, bruh, no, hell no, I work

(52:38):
too hard to get these sides, andthese folks ain't doing that in
a in a in a two-month span.
You gotta have good dieting, yougotta work out hard as hell.
Lee, you know that.
So it's like, bruh, I don'tknow, bro.
I don't, but go ahead, my boy.

SPEAKER_00 (52:51):
I ain't had I ain't had side abs since I was like
20.
You never had side abs.
You know what I'm saying?
Like when you young and youskinny and you and you are
decently physically fit and workout, you have them.
But like to have lost them, Idon't even want to get side abs.

SPEAKER_01 (53:10):
Shit work, boy.
That shit work, you gotta workLee.

SPEAKER_00 (53:13):
You gotta eat good, you gotta drink water, and if
you are drinking, you gotta burnthat many more cats, bro.
I'm not doing what it takes tohave five abs.
You know what I'm saying?
After our bet, I don't wannahave I don't gotta have a six
pack ever again, but you knowwhat I mean.
Like, I I work on my abs becauseit's it's important to have a
strong core, yeah.

(53:34):
But I I I can take my shirt off,you know what I'm saying?
And that's all you want, yeah.
Like I don't I don't need abs,and most of the time I just want
to look good in my clothesbecause most of you can't see
what's underneath.

SPEAKER_01 (53:46):
That's all you need, and I'll be showing which now I
ain't gonna tell you now that Igot these tattoos.
Oh, I'm wearing them evenharder.
Oh god, listen, I wear thesetattoos like it's like it's a
part of my skin.
I mean, oh that was fuckingstupid.
Like it was a part of my outfit.
Excuse me.
Like it's my outfit every day,if that's the case, bro.
Legit.

(54:07):
Why did you get tattoos?
Really?
That's a good question,actually.
I was sad.
Legit, I was sad as I was sadand I wanted to just, you know,
change up my, I guess, look, myvibe, my everything.

SPEAKER_00 (54:27):
So kind of like breezy after Rihanna.

SPEAKER_01 (54:29):
That's funny.
But kinda legit, bro.
Like, not it was I when yougoing through a sad stage, then
I'm going through like trying tofigure out who VJ is now, and
then still trying to figure outBill's life, adjusting, uh being

(54:50):
a dad, you know what I'm saying?
All that still.
It was like, fuck it.
Let's let's let's go all the wayin.
I grew my hair out, startedwith, I've never reminded you,
I've never had hell before in mylife.

SPEAKER_03 (55:01):
Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_01 (55:02):
I've never had hell, so it's like I wanted to change
it.
I want to change the whole look,bro.
I wanted to do somethingdifferent, and I blamed a big
part of I blamed a big part ofmy tattoo phase on Wiz Khalifa
too, like going through that andChris Gamble.

(55:23):
Me and Chris Gamble and CatelynCatelyn Gamble as well.
We was going through just likethey was with me damn near every
day.
We was, you know, getting tunedin.
And we just said, fuck it.
We just start going, bro.

SPEAKER_00 (55:39):
Then years later, then it hell that you had a
tattoo gun in your living room.

SPEAKER_01 (55:42):
Mm-hmm.
And then years later, that'swhen it just baby mama just
started, she became an artist.
And then the end it was justlike, you know what, now fuck
it.
Let's it's game time.
Now I can really get flooded.
And so I still don't liketattoos though.
Being real, like I'm one ofthose guys, I absolutely hate a

(56:02):
tattoo.
It hurt, it's annoying, it'sit's it's just not what I like.
Really?
And you're just getting stabbedon getting poked a million times
in uh second, just stabbed onnonstop, leaked in permanently.
That's crazy, yeah.

(56:23):
But that's exactly what it isfor sure.

SPEAKER_00 (56:26):
Yeah, no, I got I got tattoos because of my dad.
And then to also kind of rebel.
My dad got tattoos, I want to belike my daddy.

SPEAKER_01 (56:35):
Oh, is he flooded?

SPEAKER_00 (56:37):
He's flooded, but he got tattoos.
Yeah, word, word, word, and thenkind of bro.
You know that like uh a lot ofpeople just see me as straight
laced, and I'm not asstraight-laced as people think I
am, but I'm not as wild as somepeople think I am.
And it's it's fight, it's justlike fighting that.
Like I you know, I fight thestraight-laced image every day,

(57:00):
and tattoos was a part of it.
That's real though, and alsotell a story, like it's like
like what I actually do for thetattoos, you know, that sincere
things that matter.

SPEAKER_01 (57:11):
But just being real, you you was in that era of like
when you was in the military,yeah.
You was in that first era whenlike y'all was able to start
getting tattoos, right?
That was at the end, that's whenI started getting my like you
were a part of the first crew tobe able to start getting tattoos
and shit in there, right?

SPEAKER_00 (57:28):
In the Marine Corps, so in 2010, they changed the
tattoo policy.
That's when I got myscholarship.
So I came in under the newpolicy where you could only have
like four visible tattoos inuniform and it couldn't be the
certain places.
So that's one reason why Ididn't get a lot of tattoos
early.
And then I started I got a few,and but I mean my first well,

(57:53):
no, I had the lower I had somearm shit.
But then uh once then theychanged the policy.
I think when I was in Montereyto where you could sleeve up, so
then I just started gettinglower arm tattoos.

SPEAKER_01 (58:06):
Oh, that's all right.
So that was like your second,um, your second go-round, right?
Third.
Third, okay.

SPEAKER_00 (58:14):
And then when I moved to Albany, is when I
started coming to Carter's donegetting tattoos.
Facts, facts, facts.
And I had a kid and hadn't gotone since.

SPEAKER_01 (58:22):
Well, then on that, then let's because you know, I I
I you know, we gotta I gotta hitit tomorrow.
So I want to ask you this towrap up.
Let me ask you this becauseyou've been you just spoke on
going a being able to go allthese different places.
What's one thing?
What's one in particular?
Oh no, don't even say one.

(58:42):
What'll make somebody get onyour do not travel with again
list?
Like, give me give me a list ofsome of those.

SPEAKER_00 (58:51):
Don't want to do nothing while we're there, I
just want to sit around and doshit we can do at home.
Okay.
Uh talk too much.
If it's like a uh a chick, talktoo fucking much.
Okay.
I'm I'm stuck here with you.
Can't really escape you.
Don't get on my fucking nerves.
Um, not being honest about yourfinancial standing.

(59:13):
That that'll get you on the donot travel list.
Um that wouldn't even a shot.
That wasn't a shot at all.
I wouldn't even I wasn't eventhinking about that.
Like as I started saying it, Ithought about it, but it kind of
still holds true in thatsituation as well.
Yeah.
Um but but um I I was thinkingabout I was thinking about a

(59:35):
broad who who like showed up forfive days with three days worth
of money.

SPEAKER_01 (59:42):
Uh so she was two days asked out, dear what you
said.

SPEAKER_00 (59:45):
Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (59:46):
Oh god.

SPEAKER_00 (59:47):
He had to eat whatever I cooked.
Yeah.
Oh god.
Oh, you're not gonna pay for meto do this?
No, I don't want to do it.
So, and then uh bullshitting,making me late.
And if you a man, not being ableto do what needs to be done if

(01:00:08):
niggas is working.
And I ain't saying you gotta beable to crack nut, and I ain't
saying you gotta be on it.
But like if if a vibe is caughtwith a group, you need to just
be able to be in a conversation,do what you need to do.
I know you know some niggas gotgirls and don't cheat.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:22):
So clear that wait, just clear it.
So he he gotta be, you needsomebody that can be a certified
wing man, even if they're awing.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:29):
Well, I'm just saying, like say if it's if it's
five of us, five of them, threeniggas in relationships, two
niggas trying to cook something.
Somebody gotta keep thesebuzzers occupied.
Cause then they're gonna becoming to get all the goddamn
meat, and then ain't nobodygonna get full.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm trying to fill something up,yeah.
Because y'all gonna start hatingand being like, oh blah blah
blah, but you really just madbecause your friend going and

(01:00:52):
you already called this nigga,but you was over there
bullshitting, and so sparked upa conversation.
Uh-uh, uh.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:59):
Why do you call them buzzards?

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:01):
Because that's what because they just they just
flying looking for per lookingfor for dead meat, looking for
dead meat to go to go put theirmouth on, you know what I'm
saying?
And eat.
That's what they're trying todo.
Looking for dead meat.
Oh, yeah, and last thing, uh, ifyou are a man and you uh fuck up
a nigga getting some ass, youcan't travel with me no more.

(01:01:22):
And I ain't talking about likeyou talking too much, or you
just you just do I ain't talkingabout shit like that.
Yeah, I mean like clearblocking.
Yeah, like a nigga running theISO and you call for the ball.
Oh shit.
And a nigga cooking, you knowwhat I'm saying?
You standing in the paint won'tget to the corner.
Yeah, knowing that you got you.

(01:01:43):
Or you laying in the bed andboth of y'all in y'all drawers,
big spoon and a nigga comerunning the room.
So and then don't leave.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:54):
Oh, so a nigga to come in and just sit in there
and talk.
No, you wanna be in there.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:00):
Now, granted, security came to the hotel, but
he came and ran in the room andjumped in the bed.
And then when security left, hestayed.
So you know I'm already mad thathe came in there, but I get it,
you're running so security don'tcatch you.
Cool.
But once you hear that doorclose, this door needs to be

(01:02:23):
opening and closing.
And don't take too long becauseI will fall asleep.
Okay, it's not a true story.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:32):
I made all of it up.
Well, we're gonna talk off L2B.
So, but anyway, I think my donot travel list, it'll
definitely be.
I like if we talk, I'm gonna gogotta go two different areas
too.
I'm going friends-wise, but formy friends, my friends know how
we roll when you with me.
We don't do no overstunting, wewon't do all the extra gangster

(01:02:56):
stories, we don't do all the Ibut you can chain gang nigga to
my hook to my Airbnb.
He's gonna be he ain't doingnobody, he's gonna be super
cool.
He's gonna die behind everybodywith us.
That's why I'm saying he wassuper cool.
Everybody that's with me everytime they're gonna be the same
guy.
But what I mean when I sayoverly stunned, you're not gonna
be the nigga that how you say ifthe bitch is out, or excuse me,

(01:03:17):
excuse me.
Let me if the girls is out andsomebody over there working,
ain't none of our guys gonna bethe one that's gonna pop up.
Hey, but you need to hold some,you know.
You I got I got I got the money.
If we need to, we'll go get alike we ain't gotta do all that.
You don't never do all it that'sover stunning, but like that's
just way too much.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:35):
Bro, if a nigga ever did that, oh hold on.
If a nigga ever did that to me,excuse me, ladies.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:40):
Nigga, what the fuck is that's why I'm saying that we
don't do all that, but that'swhy I say stuff like that over
stunning, over trying to shine.
Um, I don't like got my guys tobe, I guess, extra in you and
Dean got this really bad.
I don't like when my guys try toalways feel like they gotta go
walk off and get in the middleof the crowd.

(01:04:01):
Like I got me personally, I'mone of those guys that I like
when my and this is not a do nottravel, but this just if we're
on vacation or if we out and wedon't like the anyway, you don't
you don't never want niggas tobreak from the crew.
That's stupid because again,especially when you ain't in
your personal vibe.
When y'all, if we buy a section,first of all, too.

(01:04:23):
We got a section, we gotbottles, we got drink, we got
everything you need right here.
Why the hell is y'all walkingall the way on the other side of
the floor to go mix and makewith folks on the it just don't
make I gotta go touch Earth?
It don't make sense.
I gotta be.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:35):
I gotta I gotta go be in there and and I uh with
some of the people.
I gotta I gotta feel what'sgoing on in the real world, and
I think that's why me, true.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:42):
I mean, me ruin uh Trev, we can really go to a club
and we can just stay in our spotand kick it the whole night.
We ain't gotta do all thatcarrying on.
Y'all get up moving around andand mixing and mingling and
wanting to talk.
Well, back to where I'm at is umyeah, I think it's just over
stunting, over being uh justextra aggressive, more not

(01:05:06):
getting up in the morning,taking a shot, ready to party.
And if you sleep in too long,that's for for my guys.
That's the that's the big thingfor me.
Yeah, all that sleeping in shit.
You do that when you get backhome.
All that's dead, but we gettingit.
But also, if you need a nap, youcan get you a nap, but you gotta
get up and you got the partyfirst.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:27):
No, like the day the the day I know when I travel
with friends, naps are builtinto the day.
Oh god, they gotta have it.
Listen, they got it.
Bro, we bro, we when we when wewould do just going out on the
weekend in San Diego, bro.
If we went out Saturday todaydrink, we're taking a nap to go
out at night.
If I don't get a nap, I'm notgoing out.

(01:05:49):
This ain't no good for me.
Unless I just keep the partygoing.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:52):
Yeah, this ain't no good.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:53):
Why go holla at Luigi?

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:55):
And that's when he really started.
But then, and for women, I'mgonna say for women, I feel like
my uh biggest do not travel isif you are let me see, let me
see to make it right.
I think if you are broke, um youextra always on the phony, like

(01:06:15):
you gotta show every move we do.
Um if you I forgot that aren'tif you if you don't want to get
out, and if you want to sleep inand you just want to be in the
in the room instead of gettingout, touching the flow, you
know, not drinking, notpartying, not none of that, just
want to be pretty, beat it.
Um let me see.

(01:06:36):
And my last one is I think ifyou just not up to if you're
just not up to partying, if youain't up on the same type of
time I'm on, those are mostdefinitely do not travel.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:49):
And it's really being on the same type of time,
all right?
Like I I've gone on trips withgirls who I did not sleep with,
had no intentions of sleepingwith.
I may have tried them, but like,but but it if it ain't that
going on the trips, that's whatwe here for.
Do what you're here for.
That's it.
Do whatever you here for.
Don't do too much.

(01:07:10):
If you are a plus one to anevent, don't be trying to make
no plans, don't be asking to dotoo much because we are here on
business and and and and don'tbe complaining either.
You better not be goddamncomplaining, crazy fools.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:26):
And if you broke, and if I know you broke, you
better not even think aboutsaying that.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:30):
I may be okay with you coming on this trip broke
because daddy got it.
But you use your your yoursaying spend my money like you
spend yours.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:43):
Come on now, come on now, and think, baby.
Don't you get in here andthought start talking about you
want the extra big steak?
No, ma'am, you better get thatlittle flow motherfucker for me.
Come on now.
Whatever, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:55):
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
And just because I might orderan$80 plate and a$20 cocktail.
Come on now.
Don't you think you're supposedto get me when I have that type
of money in my past life.
Uh-huh.
When I go to that type ofrestaurant, that's what I'm
there for.
Uh-huh.
But I go here without you.

(01:08:17):
If you don't go here without me,again, we can open up your
palate.
We can open up your palate.
Now, if you're my old lady, thisdon't count.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:25):
I'm talking about if you if you're a little
butt-nakged.
If you a buzzard.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:31):
You eat buzzard food.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:32):
Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:34):
You don't get dead meat.
You better not get no lobster,something that's alive in here
before we ate you.
Don't eat one of these.
And that's not what you eat.
No, real quick.
I went on a date.
I went on a date with a buzzard.
Man, it's fucking buzzard.
One of the worst probably two tothree dates I've gone on in my

(01:08:55):
life.
But you know, I was potcommitted, so because trying to
get some draws.
Yeah, facts.
Man, this motherfucker ordered.
She ordered then I ordered.
My order cost more than hers.

SPEAKER_03 (01:09:07):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:09):
She upgraded.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:12):
No fuck, she didn't.
You look at her crazy lady.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:16):
No, no, because it was still early.
First date met on the date now.
You know, trying to stingsomething.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:22):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:23):
But then we go to the club and she ain't trying to
do nothing.
Uh uh, whatever.
Okay, you I don't really want togo on the second day, but fuck
it.
Yeah.
Valentine's Day coming up.

unknown (01:09:30):
Uh-uh.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:30):
So we go do the wine, wine, uh, the little wine
shit.
Whatever.
Taste and shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm not no wine drinker.
I don't like it.
So I give her my my other foe.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:43):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:44):
She was like, oh, you should order another one.
I'm like, no, I don't like wine.
At that point in my life, Ididn't.
I hadn't found what I like.
I'm like, I don't like it.
Well, I can drink it if youdon't.
Bitch, I'm paying.
Already I'm paying.
I'm not paying to get you drunkand me sober.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:00):
Well, just since that wine tasting, no homo.
I'm just getting off sides.
You remember when we did thatbourbon uh tasting?
Oh God.
Dude, I got so fucking drunk,man.
Like, I'm still thinking aboutthat.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:14):
I went to the city that night after to take a shot
and fall asleep on the floor atPearson.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:20):
Bruh.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:20):
I didn't even party.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:21):
When I tell you, I was sitting over there thing and
I talked to Nick uh Nick Whartonlike maybe two, three days ago.
And I was like, bruh, do youremember?
I was like, you remember yougave me a bottle.
After he gave me a bottle likeat the beginning of the uh of
the event.
He said, I don't think I've seenthat bottle since.
Oh no, I drank it.

(01:10:42):
So I did bring, I did bring itup.
Okay, well, that was I didn'tknow if I brought home or
whatever.
But he kept asking, he wasasking me how was it, blah blah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:51):
Dude, I literally had no idea what it got left in
a car, and I went back toAlbenny.
And it was one of them dayswhere I was out of liquor and I
needed some.
I was like, oh damn, that's aBoba.
Look at my truck that I'msupposed to take back to VJ.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:08):
He ain't asking about it.
Down the drain.
My God.
Was it worth something?
It was okay.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:16):
Or was it just regular strong uh whiskey?
It's it's whiskey.
Uh, it's not a whiskey that Ibuy by the bottle.
Uh, depending on where I'm at,uh, what kind of night it is.
Like if I go to the cigar bar inCartersville because the
whiskeys I like cost too much,I'll order it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:35):
I ain't drinking no whiskey.
No, it made me boo-booeverywhere.
I use I mean, or I'll get it inthe old fashioned of Shout out,
my boy Bear.
I'm glad you said it.
My boy Bear drank old fashions.
Oh, his birthday was the otherweekend.
I've never heard a nigga drinkwhiskey on his birthday, and
Bear drunk like six old fashionsand was spinning jack.

(01:11:58):
We ended up going to the flame,and I ain't been in the flame in
a while.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:02):
That girl from here still worked though.
That girl from here still workedthough.

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:06):
I ain't gonna say that.

SPEAKER_03 (01:12:12):
Sorry, y'all.

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:20):
But she will uh that one wasn't uh um, that one
wasn't uh uh ain't a dancer.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:25):
Uh no.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think when I move to the city,I'm gonna uh I'm gonna dabble in
that world again.
We're gonna employ them.
I get it.
Yeah, I gotta find me a daytimeone though.
Mm-hmm.
I need 200 to do something for.
Oh shit.
Well that's what that's what wetalk about, y'all.
That's it right there.

(01:12:46):
Oh, I didn't mean like take herto the back room 200.
I just mean just 200 is enoughto get her attention and get to
know her.
Two something to do something.
You mean I don't pay for I don'tpay for sex.
That's just legal.
Yeah, yeah, moral.