December 8, 2025 • 59 mins
In this episode of Curry Café, hosts Ray Gary and Rick McNamer talk with Joanne Reeves, Rene Murillo, and Jason Liddell about their ambitious rock musical production, An Xmas Carol, a bold, 21st-century adaptation of Dickens’ classic featuring Scrooge as a jaded rocker. They discuss the show’s creative origins, unique post-psychedelic rock music style, and their grassroots efforts to stage a premiere in Brookings under the direction of Jason Liddell. Their goal is to record the performance for a documentary, “Brookings to Broadway,” to attract investors and eventually bring the production to Broadway. Despite operating on a shoestring budget, the creators emphasize passion, collaboration, and the importance of supporting the arts.
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Hosts: Ray Gary, Rick McNamer; Producers: Ray Gary, Rick McNamer
Intro and end music by Kat Liddell. Used with permission.
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(00:04):
Well, hello again, KCIW
listeners, and welcome to Curry Cafe.
I'm volunteer Rick McNamer.
Every Sunday from three to four, your host,
Ray Gary, KCIW's
famous radio personality, and I put together a
panel of guests to discuss various topics of
interest that impact our wonderful community.
And there will be a little different today.
(00:25):
I'm not gonna give out the text line
because we're doing a recorded show
today rather than live.
So now here's Ray to tell us about
what's going on today on our show. I
want to tell you a little bit about
what's going on so far.
We usually do this live, and we sit
down and do it, and it works. And
now we're trying to record it, which should
be easier,
(00:45):
and we're in our second attempt at doing
that. But, anyway, we have a fun show
today. We're gonna be talking about
a, new production.
And it sounds to me like it'll be
a great production for people who,
hate The Christmas Carol. But, anyway, we will
go go ahead. Hate and love. Go around
the table. All are welcome. Have
(01:06):
have everybody introduce themselves and tell us exactly
why they're here.
My name is Joanne Reeves. I'm the producer
of the musical
and Xmas Carol, and not everybody hates Christmas
Carol. In fact, it's probably the most beloved
story that there is by Charles Dickens. I'm
known for being different than most people. So
(01:28):
that's Maybe that's it. Well, join the crowd
this year, Ray. Join the crowd. I'm I'm
not fond of Christmas music or lights or
Christmas and junk. Humbug.
Right on. There's there's a character right there.
Exactly. Go ahead, Joanne. Okay. Thank you. So,
this is an adaptation. We have,
reduced the script quite a bit, and it
(01:50):
is a rock musical.
Scrooge is a burnt out rocker.
He has a roadie, Bob Cratchit, who he
has abused.
Marley is a soulful singer who shows back
up
to say, I wear the chains I forged
in life. And, dude, if you don't change
your ways,
you are doomed.
(02:10):
And through this musical,
we will have approximately 12 songs.
We've got three down so far
and the script, and we are building it
out where we'll have the rest of it.
And it will be a fully bonafide
rock musical.
And the music,
is composed,
by my friend,
(02:32):
Rene Murillo.
Hello, who's on now? Hi. Tell us a
little about yourself, Renee.
Well, you know, just
musician. You know? Okay. That's good now. Give
them the give them the stuff, dude.
Where where were you here from? I'm sorry.
Where did you come from to get here?
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. We,
(02:53):
we're yeah. We live in Portland at the
moment, but, we or I,
originally from LA. So,
yeah, long way from home. Been out here
for, what, eight years now. Renee has is
a a composer, but he he's a musician
in bands
throughout Okay. Which fits which fits the requirements
for this. It's not classical. It's not symphonic.
(03:16):
It's
it's a pure rock musical.
And what we're also
so ever so grateful to Jason Liddell of
Threepenny
Theatre Yeah. Who is we've we've done this.
Also to Lori Gallo Stoddard who's making this
possible for us to sit here right now.
Because our goal was,
(03:37):
we wanna do this musical, but it's not
just to have it as a staged
theater.
What we're doing is recording it
to where we can make it
a documentary
to show what we're doing here.
But, also, well, you guys know. What's the
big what's the big movie musical out now?
Wicked. Right? Yeah. Right. And that kinda got
(03:58):
me going right there. I go,
if Wicked can do it,
an Xmas carol is not far off the
mark. That was kind of your inspiration for
this? You know, I was inspired years ago.
I I started in with the concept of
an Xmas carol,
oh, approximately twenty years ago, actually. Wow. As
I've done,
in regional theater and across The United States,
(04:21):
any number of productions of A Christmas Carol,
musicals,
readers, theaters,
directed them. I must have done
twelve, fifteen,
versions of A Christmas Carol. This isn't your
first rodeo I hear. This is this is,
you know, it's the hoedie o time of
year. As a matter of fact,
two years, my daughter
played tiny Tim when she was four and
(04:42):
six because who needs a babysitter when when
she When you have a dad. When I've
got this cute well, she you know what
was interesting is she refused to be an
actress after those experience.
After she was stuck under the robe of
the ghost of Christmas present
and was, like, groin high for for numbers
of minutes, I said, I'm not paying for
(05:03):
therapy.
You're just not gonna go into theater, I
guess. Okay. And she did not. So, yes,
very familiar with A Christmas Carol. But this
is really different. It's,
it's kismet that, Renee and I got together
because it had it it was an idea
that I'd had
and and knew how it should kind of
shake out.
But it was through talking to each other
(05:25):
that I go, give me a sample of
something.
And he started with, Marley,
which is a tremendous song.
It it's soulful. It it gets down there.
And so I go, well, let's let's continue
with this. And then Laurie put us in
touch with Jason,
and that's how showbiz works, isn't it? Especially
(05:45):
live performance.
It's called
it either works or doesn't work. It could've
stopped right back there in the grocery aisle
when Renee and I were first talking.
But it you go you take it a
step by step,
and sometimes it works. And I wanna thank
Jason so much because he's worked with all
the actors.
He has he's been, like,
(06:06):
at it, with you know, it's one of
those things theater.
You don't necessarily get a payoff right away.
In fact, you may never get a payoff,
as anybody knows. Right. But sometimes it's a
a miracle.
And that's what we're going for, Christmas miracle
this year. Well We would like to see
by next year, we have this fully developed
(06:27):
as a musical.
Someone wants to back it. As a matter
of fact,
if you love this idea,
you too could be a producer.
Contact me at no. Seriously.
It's it's it's all possible. Great. But it
starts with talent, and k. That's what we
got. Well and we will get to Jason's
(06:49):
well known in the, community here. We all
know him. Oh, he gets around. And Kat.
Anyway, I wanna go real quick where you
and Renee how did you guys originally get
together?
The store aisle. Seriously, we were talking,
and we wound up talking about,
what he does. I go, you're a composer.
And I go, oh, I'm in theater.
Whatever. I go, you know, I I go,
(07:10):
but I do have this and I do
have this musical I've been thinking about back
again, and it was because of Wicked, seriously.
Okay. It it was my inspiration. I was,
like, going, oh my god. I mean, have
you seen that? Now now, Renee, at this
point where she's saying, I do have this
idea, you're thinking, oh, no. Not another one.
Right?
As far as what? As far as somebody
else giving you yet another idea to to
(07:32):
write some music.
I
I, you know, I
he liked the idea right away. I I
I I I like her,
and I like her, like,
you know, just how she carries herself. And
I
I I respect people that are genuine. And
she gave me an idea, and I I
I was like, you know what? Like,
(07:54):
I got nothing to lose but everything to
gain. So I I was like, hey. You
know, here's,
what I came up with. Like, let me
know what you think. You know? And and
how long ago was
this roughly? This is gotta be about nine
months ago starting. Oh, okay. Okay. It's relatively
new. Has it been nine months? Yeah. Yeah.
I know it has.
Yeah. Tempus Fugit.
(08:15):
Yeah. So it was like one thing,
and I'm like because it I don't know
if he can really do this. Right? Like,
oh, let's have a little experiment.
Obviously, you're finding out that he really can
Oh my gosh. The way it's going. Oh
my gosh. Yes. I mean, have you heard
the voice? It's remarkable. And the music He's
got a little bit of it earlier, but
It it's it's it's Great. It and once
(08:36):
again, I say it's kismet because
you don't know. You could wind up going,
that was lovely
or some other that way, that's terrible. But
no. Okay. It was it was exactly,
what I thought of. In fact,
to begin with, I was, like, going
I thought of something, you know, in
a way, a composer went a little more
(08:58):
symphonic in certain kinds of ways. But, actually,
I came around to the idea of a
go I go, no. This is a this
is a a rock musical.
My background in in musicals
is much more traditional. Okay. So I've, it's
been adjusted.
And, Renee, you so you've been in very
you you are in a band? You're in
(09:18):
various band? I have one band at the
moment. Okay. I will have several
little projects, but yeah. I mean Okay. Yeah.
So and you do play around Portland at
different venues?
No. At the moment, we're just recording,
an EP.
Okay. Okay. Yeah. So if if this is
a rock musical, what what style of rock?
(09:41):
That's that's you know? Yeah. It all Would
it something Led Zeppelin? Or I mean, whatever
you wanna get out of it. But, I
mean, I
I mean,
for an example, Chains
was influenced by Arthur Brown. I don't know
if you know Arthur Brown. No.
Fire,
I'll teach you to burn. You know? Oh,
(10:01):
yeah. You know? I'll see you burn. Heavy
organ, you know, just,
you know, she she wanted, you know, burned
out rock star. So I I try to
pull out some kinda old cards, you know,
heavy organ, you know.
Hey. You know, maybe you can add a
little bit of, like, Doors sounding bass in
here. You know? You know, let's throw in
some, like, Mars Volta guitar playing and, you
(10:23):
know, just it's just kind of
sporadic.
You know, it's not something that
Well You know? Yeah. It just it it
got influenced by,
you know,
musicians that came before me. To say, obviously,
you're younger than Ray and I. I know
that. Yeah. So but you just
(10:44):
not one particular era or
I I love to say genre because of
Alex Trebek.
But I just call it a lot. All
over the place for but mostly in rock
and roll. Yeah. You know, I call it,
like, post psychedelic.
Okay. You know? Just
psychedelic rock, you know? Okay. For the most
part. Yeah. Cool. Alright. Yeah. Yeah.
So let's get to mister Jason here. Jason
(11:05):
Liddell.
Hi, Rick. Yeah.
Yeah. I'm I'm Jason Liddell. I'm really stoked
to be here, and I'm really excited to
have finally gotten to meet Joanne and Renee.
You know, we've been communicating for months and
months now, and now it's all coming together.
Right on. Jason is that guy, by the
way, when you go to an event in
a place in Brookings
(11:27):
and you see that guy standing there, it's
him.
Not doing anything. Just standing there. Yeah.
He he appears to be just standing there.
There may be a lot of deep thought
going on or,
the telepathic
direction. I make it look like I'm very
productive. Yes. That's all a ruse.
It's kinda how my career went sometimes Yeah.
(11:47):
When I work. I do wanna clarify, you
know,
so this officially isn't a Threepenny project. When
we first started talking, that was the idea.
Threepenny is a new company. I was a
cofounder of Threepenny Theater Co. It's now a
nonprofit. I'm no longer a founder. I'm a
I'm a volunteer.
Threepenny was just a bit too busy at
the time, and so I I took it
(12:09):
upon myself. We'd
get this going on our own.
We're having a little bit of help from
Threepenny, small donation,
in kind donation of, like, lights and stuff
to use, but it is not a Threepenny
Okay. Production. Okay.
But like, Joanne was saying, you know, and
I think kismet was a really good word
for that.
(12:30):
I had met Laurie,
I don't know, last year. Started doing some
some news reporting with KCOW, and Laurie's like,
hey. I got a friend working on this
project. Why don't you two talk? And I
was telling Renee earlier,
you know, I'd I'd well, I'd never done
anything like this. And it's easily one of
those projects where I could've gone, you know
what? I don't have the time right now,
(12:50):
or I don't know that I'm equipped to
do this and just put it to rest.
But I wanted to take a stab, and
I wanted to take take a risk and
and try something new. And and by new,
you know, I mean, working on a project
at the ground floor. You know, I've Right.
I've, almost fifteen years experience
performing arts in the area, but that's almost
(13:10):
been entirely
licensing shows and doing what they give you.
This is
the genesis
of an idea,
you know, where things
are bound to change and mold and adapt,
and it's all new territory for me. And
then tomorrow now, again, this is recorded, so
you have to people out there listening take
(13:32):
it as it is. But tomorrow will be
the first time it's gonna be
performed.
So For an audience. Yes. For an audience.
Yes. Which is exciting. It is. Okay.
Yeah. So
this is also new. This is even interesting.
It's unique. It's a one day performance.
You know, the idea of a live performance
kinda came about a little bit later in
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the process. We're like, okay. Let's let's put
something together.
And,
I got a location. I got a small
venue.
It's,
you know, the place where Threepenny does most
of their shows. Okay.
Good relationship with the landlord. Good rates. We
we know the resources that we have. And,
we're like, okay. Let's figure out how to
do this. You know, we got a short
(14:13):
script. It's not gonna last too long, but
let's build a whole show around it, you
know, a more comprehensive
show with different So this really is the
what what's the word? Nascent, if you will?
That's a word. Time. Wow. Yeah. Is it
the right one? Let me make sure I
figured I did it right. It is the
right word. Okay. He's showing off.
(14:35):
Kinda word he learned in his railroad days.
Oh, no. That didn't happen in the railroad.
Things are on the track.
But, anyway, this is exciting. And so
what what is the length of it right
now roughly?
So we last timed
it at about twelve minutes. Oh, wow. Okay.
And so I'm thinking short. But why am
I gonna come see a twelve minute show?
(14:57):
It's not just a twelve minute show.
We're building it out into a bigger show.
We're going to do a premier performance,
tomorrow at two. Right. Then we're gonna have
a q and a with Joanne and Renee
and myself Oh. And spend a little time
so the audience can find out more information
from the creators. Excited.
And then, and then we'll do a second
performance
(15:17):
right after that. Oh. Yep. And then we'll
finish out with, some live music from Renee.
Some of And and the reason being for
the performances
and re is to record them.
We are excited to do them live,
that people can enjoy it and see what
we're doing.
But it's about recording it so it can
go
(15:38):
to a much broader,
interest group.
Theatrical producers, perhaps.
I know any number of people who who
run theaters around the country.
What we're after is backing to develop the
rest of it.
And it's it's cool that you picked
Brookings
to me. Brookings
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picked me. Oh. I would never Flip that.
Flip that.
Well, I mean, I love Brookings. Yes. Yeah.
Yes.
So I think is it safe to say,
Joanne, you know, this is functioning as a
proof of concept?
It's a here's what we have. Here's what
we can do.
And Yes. And get on the wagon with
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us. Well,
indeed.
For example,
when people hear Renee's music, certain they they
respond. Right? When Candace,
heard chains,
right away, she she loved the music. Awesome.
And that's what it's about, isn't it? If
you're doing a musical,
(16:41):
somebody better love the music to begin with.
So we Kind of important, I would say.
Did you just say that? Yeah. So what
we saw is that, okay, we're on the
right track.
But it
it's taken nine months to get to this,
and that's that's fifteen minutes.
Right? Mhmm. And we ain't perfect yet with
what we're doing in those fifteen minutes. But
(17:03):
the miracle
is Lori Gallers
Lori Gallo Stoddard,
who has won numerous
awards in various different mediums,
is going to edit this
to where we look like the shizzle.
No matter yeah. For sure.
We will be the shizzle, but it will
even be greater than that because
(17:26):
well,
if we created a whole musical here and
performed it, marvelous. But they're not driving in
from Poughkeepsie to watch it. We want Yet,
Penny.
There you go. We'll make it a package.
Just go to Brookings. Okay. See the show.
Stay somewhere.
No. What we wanna do is take it
out,
(17:46):
and make it either
either the move the production stage production.
Well, I have to give total credit to
Jason on this one. Oh, god. When discussing
it to begin with, we talked about a
documentary, which is what we're doing even with
this Laurie's shooting. Mhmm. Been shooting everything that
we've been doing. Right. So you can see
the process. People love to watch process.
(18:09):
Jason came up with a fabulous name for
for this documentary.
Brookings to Broadway.
Oh. Come on. That's great. You and I
had talked earlier, and I wrote that down.
I wanna I it's classical. But I do
wanna know It was the low hanging fruit.
It was right there. I know. But that
though those are archetypes. I mean, that that's
what people that's what people recognize.
(18:31):
I love alliteration.
Uh-huh. As do I.
Brookings to Broadway. It's an it's an idea.
Now Broadway might be,
a a major playhouse in San Diego. It
could be somewhere else. Right. We would prefer
Broadway. Right? Or and I know some people
there. Maybe it's off Broadway. However,
once again,
going for a bigger goal. Yes. Wanna make
(18:51):
that movie. Yeah. It'll be a Christmas how
many Christmas movies are there? Not enough. No.
Oh my god.
For Ray, too many. Two.
My my crazy. Are screwed. My heart kinda
stopped a little bit. Oh, sorry. Not an
not enough. My goodness.
You do have a resident screw. I love
(19:12):
it.
I love it. So, you know, god willing
and the creek don't rise. We'll get some
people who enjoy this.
Somebody rich, come on up. You could be
the producer. You wanna go to those awards,
dress up. Well, I can't promise it, but
we can talk about it. Yeah.
So so can can I just get so
the the performance
(19:33):
is is about fifteen minutes? Correct. And then
after that,
the people in the audience and the players
are gonna discuss? Correct. Okay.
You'll get to see it twice.
Okay. So Or or they'll Buy one, get
two. Or they'll wander out. No. You know
what? They will stay because it's a process.
Yeah. We're only just starting. This was the
first you know, they've been rehearsing, but this
(19:55):
was the first one we had today with
sound and sound effects.
So anything can go wrong,
or it could go far. I would've been
a little bit. Or it could go very
right. Yeah. So and guess what? At these
prices,
Hello.
Because, like like we said before, I don't
know if I mentioned it. It's a free
(20:16):
show. We're not we're not charging admission to
see this show. So
you buy one, you get two.
There you go.
Sounds good. And so while we're on the
topic of, you know, like, the cost of
it,
and one thing I think that's important is
this is done with a nearly zero budget.
You know, this is just off of the
(20:36):
the blood, sweat, and tears of the people
involved. You know, we're gonna pay for some
space rent and paid for some posters to
go up, and that's about it. And
we wanna show, you know, here's what we
can do with nothing.
Imagine what we can do with something. Yeah.
You know? And
Well, it sounds like everybody here is inspired
(20:59):
to make this thing go.
Absolutely.
It's it's amazing, isn't it? But, you know,
that's often the case in theater. There's so
many yeoman who who work,
wherever you go, there's somebody who loves theater,
who's not getting paid for it, but just
just loves it too much to not do
it. We we we have the film festival
here, and we get to meet producers and
(21:20):
directors,
And and many of them are just what
you say. Exact you know, it's the arts.
Oh, yeah. It's the arts. Mhmm. And we
have to continue to support them in some
way, shape, or form
because
well, for me, like, watching the people around
the table today
doing
reading and singing,
(21:41):
I go, this is an outlet.
People
people require an outlet. It's part of their
it's part of their soul. It's part of
their nature.
So that all as a producer
and a director,
I've always loved that part. I go and
a nurturer, basically.
Give people a chance
to shine,
(22:02):
to feel
feel like there's more to life. And theater
and music does that, needless to say. And
it's so personal
rather than a movie.
Oh, truly truly that. That is the beauty
of theater. Yeah. You know? And, you know,
one one thing I found surprising,
you know, we're in a really small rural
area in Oregon, and one might think, you
(22:22):
know, oh, we're culturally starved. We're starved for
the arts. Brookings actually has what I would
consider a significant amount of performing arts in
the area from theater to dance to musicians
and everything.
And I think the goal we need to
strive for is the cooperation, the community
bringing it all together. You know? We we
have a lot of of arts here, but
(22:43):
we need
to team up and make big projects like
this. You know? We need the manpower and
and the resources.
And a big project like this is a
spectacular
opportunity,
I think, to really
really team up. Yeah. Brookings to Broadway. From
from Brookings to Broadway. From Brookings to Broadway.
I could I could see it up in
(23:03):
lights. Your name and lights are Aston Tights.
How can I say that? Sorry.
And the and Yeah. You could say
You could say it. And the merch. Think
of the merch.
D, all of the how to get your
good t shirts, by the way. Okay. All
all of them just veer in charge of
t shirts. That was you don't have to
get any money for the t shirts, but
we can get your t shirt. Okay. Well,
(23:23):
see, once again, it's, Kismet. I now have
a T shirt guy. Okay. So and everybody
shows up who needs to show up. I
know a guy who knows a guy. I
know. He knows a guy. Exactly. Right on,
man. Exactly. He actually knows the cousin of
the guy, but,
anyway, it it would Close enough. Close enough.
Close enough. So it a little bit of
the particulars.
(23:44):
So tomorrow, how many people will be on
stage performing,
roughly? We're gonna have eight. Eight. Eight people.
Yes. K.
We have
Ebenezer Scrooge. Of course, we have Scrooge. We
have Marley. We have,
the nephew. We have,
a charity man,
Bobby Cratchit,
(24:05):
young Ebby,
and and,
and Bell, young young Ebenezer's,
first love. Oh, gosh. Yeah. Now if I
counted right, that was only seven. But I
include Renee. Renee is gonna make a a
guest appearance to sing vocals for, one of
Scrooge's songs. Nice. So we'll have eight up
there. And, again, you mentioned Chains was a
(24:26):
song that you wrote,
Renee? I I I well, I mean, all
the words are Charles Dickens' words, but all
put to your music? Yeah. Everything is. Yeah.
Alright. Yeah.
And in your band, what instruments do you
play? Oh, I mean, well, I
write,
the music as well. But, yeah,
rhythm guitar and vocals.
(24:48):
Okay. Alright. Yeah. Name's,
the name of the band's called Crocrosmia.
Okay. Yeah. Are they in town with you?
Or I'm sorry. Are they here with you?
Or I wish. I mean I mean, the
show Not me. The show would've just been,
you know Yeah. You know, some live music.
Why not? Oh, well, you're right.
Yeah. And then,
now that we're you know? Well, tomorrow,
(25:09):
as part of the performance also, Renee will
be doing one of his original pieces,
for for the crowd so they can see
just what is that what is on Very
cool.
Music is that's not based on Dickens. So
we're gonna have we're gonna have a Renee
solo. Alright. Have we even mentioned what time
this is, happening? It's 2PM.
2PM. Yeah. So,
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tomorrow, Sunday,
December 7, 2PM at the Brookings Event Center
in Brookings, right next to Wildhair Barber and
Feather Your Nest. It is, like I said,
basically, the main base of operations for Threepenny
Yeah. Theater co shows.
And we it's
my favorite part about this place and about
what we've done in the past is it's
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a community center. It's completely blank and empty.
And we go in and create a theater
out of it, bring out all the seats,
with bigger productions. We put up flats and
all the stuff. And so we we turn
this little empty room into a viewing space,
into a theater for people.
Which is another part. It kinda goes to
where the Wild Rivers thing about not only
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that you guys producing,
singing, the music,
the writing, you you have to do all
the stagehand work too. Oh my god.
Yeah.
She took and model of it. Okay. Okay.
If only I I Master was it Jack
of all trades? Master of none? I don't
know. I I wish I think people would
benefit from knowing
what goes into just making art, period, be
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it be it theater or music or dance
or whatever. A lot of people come and
see shows, and hopefully, they love it.
But, boy, you know, if you knew, like,
what it took, not just physically, but mentally,
emotionally, financially.
I was gonna say, so what tomorrow start
December 7 again.
Starts at two, but people get there to
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set up probably very earlier than that much
earlier than that. Yeah. So luckily, this is
And later.
This is a a simplified
production. Yeah. Okay. But we're gonna get we'll
get there, you know, a few hours early
Yeah. Set up,
rehearse a few more times, you know, really,
really polish it before we start letting people
in.
I'm trying to think that old Jackson Browne
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song about how, the all the roadies.
Do you remember that one about about how
the roadies were all the Can you a
few bars?
Oh, god.
They would take me off the radio after.
Okay.
But it it told that story. You know,
they're really the ones making the whole thing
work. And after they after they roll all
the equipment, then they they pack up the
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equipment, put it anyway, it's a big deal.
It is.
We we've joked But you guys are also
the roadies right now, I'm assuming. I'm not.
We've we've joked in the past,
theater is a team sport.
You know, it's very much a team sport.
It takes everyone involved.
And when you do try to do it
all on your own, like when Kat and
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I started Yep. It's
absolutely exhausting, and I don't recommend it. It's
a masochistic endeavor.
Well,
occasionally, I know I Kat comes in here
a lot too, and I it was probably
a year or so ago, but I, and
she ran in and ran out because she's
got 500 things going. I said, hey, Kat.
Did we were doing a show that I
thought she might want to
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partake,
and she just gave me this exhausted look
like.
Not at this time. Kat was Kat was
originally gonna play a role, in our production,
but because they're so busy, they didn't have
the availability for it. Yeah.
Wow.
Well, I think it's gonna be a big
deal, exciting for Are you coming, Rick? I
certainly am. Are you coming? If I can
get them tickets, it's filling up. Oh, that's
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right. Well, it's so that remains to be
it happen. This is I need two.
Okay. Are you committed to sitting? Is that
a joke? Is is sitting a deal breaker
for you?
I'm making a I'm making a joke like
you might have to stand. A standing room
only? It might be. Okay. Something went over
Ray's head for the first time ever. I
did a standing
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I did a standing room thing for cats
in New York, so I guess I can
handle it. It could be. Yeah. This is,
like I said, a one day event. Right.
30 seats. That's all we can that's all
we can really sell. It's very intimate,
and it's kind of exclusive at this point,
and almost all of our tickets are sold.
Okay. But now are will
will there be standing standing room only? I
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mean, can I mean, well I mean, they're
instead of would you prefer not?
I'm not sure about that. But Okay. As
this is not airing until after we've performed
it Right. This will not affect the number
of people that come in. And what I
would say is
we will be recording all this, and and
Laurie's gonna make a wonderful edited show of
this. So that's gonna be available
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for people to see online.
Mhmm. You'll be able to see what we
did in the future.
And Is there a time frame for that?
How how long might we have to be
I don't wanna push her because don't know,
Erin. She's right behind me, and I can
get She's right behind you.
She she seems calm she seems calm and
collected, but she can get nasty
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defending herself. So just You better watch her.
I think someone's gonna pull Ray off the
air.
Approaching her when she's eating may be of,
Okay. Thank you for the There are things
the things you need to know about. Thank
you. Taking us Great. Taking us years to
learn. So it will be available for everybody
to watch online here Yes. It will. Whenever
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Yes. It will. Because that's part of the
promotion because
30 people, and they don't know it's happening.
So somebody can watch that ex post facto
and go, I really like that.
I've got a ton of money.
Yeah. I think I need to get in
as a producer and make this happen.
(30:47):
You know,
I could we could use some Dometic cheese
up in here
if it were possible. Okay.
Okay. So a ton of money. This this
this would not be a deductible donation then
for this play, would it? Yes. It will
be. It'll be through a nonprofit. Oh, okay.
Yes. That is deductible.
But, you know, once again,
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it can be a small donation to keep
it going so we can get it created.
And I'm and I'm talking to the whales
out there.
Do you wanna go to an award ceremony
for your movie
that you produced?
Let's think big Yeah. Dude in a iron
lung that's leaving soon and Well as
I'm kidding. No. Not.
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Well, you're already thinking big with the Brookings
to Broadway.
Exactly. Why why do it if you ain't
thinking And I I swear, I do love
that little that little saying. Right? Simple yet
effective. Of course. That's why I gotta give
him full credit. Beautiful. And one of the
big differences,
I think for this
that it was one of the first parts
of Joanne's vision when we started talking was
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ultimately,
she wants to be able to pay people
for their time and their effort and their
blood, sweat, and tears. And for people like
us, you know, like she was saying earlier,
we just do theater for no pay. That
that's the expectation is, you know. Yeah. Which
is why we only did,
the first fifteen minutes to get in the
first three songs
to show how fabulous they were because
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you cannot make people
do
that much,
work that you want to be top flight
creative
without
some without some remuneration,
without some appreciation. You can't just say thanks.
I run,
a a couple of regional theaters,
and I've always been proud to say they
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were nonprofits
always paid to everybody from the actors to
the tech to the everybody. Sometimes it wasn't
much. Mhmm. But everyone was always paid because,
that's basically a sign of respect. Thought we
could get away with it on this one,
because
it's new. It's starting.
We have not asked
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tons of time, although Jason has done
heroic yeoman's work,
and done a lot more for for nothing
so far. But he's in on the deal.
That's what we got going.
And so Brookings to Broadway.
Yeah.
Renee, I believe you
wanted to say something earlier. And I just,
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you know, wanted to give a quick little
shout out to Gus Carrasco, my buddy that's
helped
me mix the songs and master them and,
the,
you know, awesome guitar that that he does,
you know,
in the intro. I mean,
the the guy is phenomenal, but I just,
you know, shout outs to him and Great.
You know, he's not here, but he's part
(33:41):
of it as well. So Yeah. Great. You
know what would be amazing when we get
you know, we get to our our Broadway
place. We're doing the show, but with a
live pit. Oh. With a live their live
band. That's how it's now. Yeah.
Because my my experience is it's all canned
music. You know, we don't have the resources
to have a live orchestration for our musicals.
And so
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to me, that that's an exciting prospect to
me to actually have people over on the
side, down the pit, whatever, playing guitar drums.
Camera action. The I mean, lights,
revolving sets. Imagine Scrooge
is in he he's a burnout rocker. We've
got him watching his show. Right? It sounds
and lights. And and then you it's it
and you can you can you can,
(34:24):
circle the bed around where he's in a
totally different place. Theater's magical that way. You
name it. Yeah? Yeah. So And with people
of our generation, you say burnt out rocker.
Mhmm. You're gonna attract crowds, man.
Well Because
I know 80 to 90% of them are
burnt out rockers. Well, it it it is
novel, isn't it? No. It is great, man.
(34:46):
And I bet we could, for Broadway,
cast some remarkable,
old rocker. Now what's your suggestion, lads? Who
would you see? Keith Richards. He'll still be
alive. Oh, you think so?
Cryogenically
frozen?
Maybe so.
He's beaten the odds so far, man. You
know what? I just don't I don't know
(35:07):
that. I know. I know. But yes. That's
the one that came comes to my mind.
You know you know who would
alright. Moment.
It's okay. This is alright.
Dion Dion on the Belmonts. I don't know
if you've heard him recently, but he's still
current. He is a Belmonts. Damn good singer.
(35:29):
Okay. Well And he's around? Yeah. Yeah. Great?
I was like, oh, yeah. Yeah. He's still
making runs. Oh, you know, there's you know,
you think of an Ozzy Osbourne type, he's
gone. But any He's gone. Yeah. He's gone.
RIP. Mick Jagger's not gonna do it.
But who?
I said RIP. You said RIP. Oh, yeah.
Alright. But, but
along those lines, you know, that is part
(35:50):
of our concept also. Well, when it gets
to the Broadway part, yeah, they'll be interested
in doing it. That is correct. Maybe we
can get a Todd Rudrin.
Todd Rundgren? No. He's Haven't heard that one
for a while. He's Well, no. He he
does Broadway.
I know. And you know what? He has
a really sweet voice. Hello.
It's me.
No. It's sweet. It's me started. Okay. We
(36:11):
won't get started.
We won't get started. Speaking of oh, go
ahead. Oh, just gonna say there's there's ones
we haven't thought of,
and I would think that someone would adore
to do the part. God. You would fix
it. It's full on. I mean Yeah. The
guy is, he is going down. He when
when we see him, he's like
he's snorting. He's doing. He's yelling.
(36:31):
He's watching. Right? He's you know? And he
still thinks he's it. Well, now you have
to Go ahead. Those are the guys that
trap like flies. So you need to have
a lot of people
ready to replace
these people that you're finding. They're still as
far as as they die. It's like every
other day, you're Can can you sing, Ray?
No.
(36:53):
No.
Okay. Well,
once again, that's that's where you have understudies.
Yeah. You you know, you bet you gotta
have understudies for the drug overdoses.
So so not not only the oldie old
folks. Now there are there are some local
youth that are involved. Adorable youth I've met
today. Yeah. Yeah. We have,
(37:14):
two younger people.
One of them is,
Donovan Guthrie. He's in in high school. K.
I actually I met him years ago and
his parents.
Very first thing, we were doing a Christmas
variety show, I believe, at the Checo Playhouse.
And he must have been
10 or younger. And he'd written a sketch,
(37:37):
a little comedy sketch
that just creaked of Monty Python. I went
to his dad. I don't like does he
watch Monty Python? He's like, oh my god.
Yes. And so he and I both acted
in it, and it was a a really
fun experience,
you know, getting to help make a young
kid's
a lot of fun
watching Monty Python Fabulous. Brings me back,
(37:58):
my eight year old stepchild way back when
I took him with me to see the
meaning of life. Oh.
And he might not have understood most of
it, but he loves it to this, and
he's 50. Does
Three minutes. Show of hands if anybody knows
a woman that likes money python.
Hey.
My wife I don't care what it is,
(38:18):
but I love money pie. I mean, it's
not like,
I don't know. Does she speak the King's
English?
Yes. I will be rolling all over the
couch laughing, and if I have a woman
companionship,
that's not funny.
Some do. And I said, oh, it is
definitely funny. What do you mean?
(38:40):
So back to the youth,
and, Jason, you were taught I'm
not familiar with the high school, even the
if there is a junior high here. Is
there an
art arts program pretty good here in this
town for high school? The high school does
have a drama program.
I haven't seen anything Okay. In a while.
I do believe
right now they are working on a production
(39:02):
of an originally adapted Wizard of Oz. Oh,
wow. Yeah. The high the high school puts
that on.
Junior high, Azalea Middle School doesn't have a
drama program anymore. They have a class master,
but the high school definitely has one. And
I know
Crescent Elk Middle School in Crescent City has
a drama program. I'll be darned. That's cool.
And they don't get enough money.
(39:24):
I know we're asking for money, but the
schools don't get enough money for the arts.
The arts got wiped out. Yeah. And that
And that hurts. I think that hurt I
think the arts is important. Tell it. Yeah.
I really the choir. While you're writing those
checks, KCIW
could always use some money.
Nonprofit
tax deductible.
Let's get back to us.
(39:45):
Okay.
I agree. I will just I'll just that.
Right? I will sit here for the rest
of the hour and be quiet. I'm well
known for doing that. I'm
I I wish I had tons of money.
I'd support you myself.
Okay.
Well, right now, we're we're we wanna support
what's going on
tomorrow and
Mhmm. You know? And going forward. And going
(40:06):
forward for the I I'm gonna come back
to this. I'm all be thinking about this
a lot, the Brookings to Broadway. I just
love it. It just Right?
Means so much, man. Make it happen. It's
perfect. Wait until spring because the weather will
be really rough on that trip right now.
Not hard weather. Yeah. I love No. No.
When you get out of the rough weather,
(40:26):
though idea.
Perfect. Once you get out of our weather,
weather becomes weather.
Whether or not you do or not. Right.
Yes. So I have a question for Joanne,
if you guys don't mind. Please.
What was it like
handing over this project to someone you'd never
met before? Scary. I'm a control monger, Laurie
(40:48):
will tell you, of sorts.
But I also,
I'm
very logical and,
a pretty good detective.
So
with,
just a few questions,
understanding
work ethic,
I realized that Jason could do it. I
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wasn't
all I what I did not know I
knew he could do the process
going through it. He set it up, rehearsals,
this or that, the times.
What I
did not know
was his capacity
to recognize talent,
which is a which is a talent in
and of itself. Oh, yeah. But what I
(41:29):
watched around this table today,
I go, he got the best talents that
he could get in in Brookings,
which
there's talent everywhere.
You know? It just has to be developed.
So,
I was I was thrilled to to discover
it. Yeah. Because you can you can go,
(41:50):
oh.
And in this case, it was great. I
really wanna follow-up on that because Renee and
I were actually just talking about that earlier.
You do find talent in the
least expected places, and you know there's talent
around.
But it feels like there's been a gap
between people that want to experience
the arts that people like us provide and
(42:10):
the people that wanna participate.
And trying to figure out The pipe. Is
it the fear? It's the pipeline.
There's just not that much,
you know, this goes way back. Remember work
progress administration
boys?
You remember that? Do you remember it? Of
course, I do because it set me up.
In high school into college, They had arts
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programs where you could
I would do stuff through the Old Globe
Theater where we would go out to schools
and do all kinds of stuff because that
there was still residual
and then came in all the rest of
it, and they go art arts has got
to go. And in my opinion,
arts has got to come back bigger than
ever.
It is the nourishment.
A lot of a lot of people ain't
(42:52):
they're not gonna do math. They're not gonna
do AI. They're not gonna do anything.
And arts is the panacea. It's the comfort.
And
I think it's like the a a a
yin and yang of education, if you wanna
call that educate.
You you need both. And you're right. Not
everybody has both. One of my idols is
(43:13):
Albert Einstein. I quote him often. And so
he he he talks about the fact he
said I do most of my work while
asleep. And he also talked about creativity
was the source
of how he got to stuff. Now he
combined some amazing things there. But
creativity,
leads to all kinds leads to all kinds
(43:34):
leads to comfort, and it makes it helps,
a lot of people. I've known
when I was younger,
It helped a lot of people get off
the street and do something that interests them.
Yeah. It
it's a it's,
it should be supported.
Once again,
if you would like to support the arts,
(43:57):
Threepenny
Theatre would like your support here in Brookings.
They deserve it. They work hard. Jason Liddell
is at it.
Please support Threepenny Theatre. And my goal for
next time, the next time, the next phase
or or the the finished product to to
be able to make it a Threepenny thing,
to have that that full on product here.
Promise you that one, Jason. Okay.
(44:19):
It's it as I remain the producer of
this event,
you are in, dude Mhmm. Because of what
you do. I can tell you that. This
much I know.
Where sponsorship and where it will be
headed by
remains to be seen.
The goal is though, we will we will
(44:39):
find a basis to to get this supported.
If if someone were to just come in
with a bundle, you wouldn't even have to
do it nonprofit. You'd go straight to the,
to the the
to the you're you're part of it, your
your payback, all the there's all dividends, the
rest of it, however, all that chopped. So
(45:00):
at this stage,
yes. It is what it is.
Brookings to Broadway,
Jason Zen.
Speaking of giving, we're down to about three
weeks in this year that you can give
money that will be deductible
on this year's taxes.
Yes. And that
you won't you won't have to give to
(45:20):
May I suggest block is ticking. Yeah. Yes.
May I suggest you send those checks
to KCIW
at
for
an Xmas Carol.
Alright? Awesome.
KCIW,
you got it? Put that down. Put that
down. Yeah. Send the checks, and please do.
I've you know, if you have an interest
in the arts, it ain't like nobody's getting
(45:42):
rich. All it's gonna do is pay some
actors, some lighting guys, the rest of it.
Send those checks
to k c I w
dot
org attention
and x miss Carol.
Thank you very much. And Keith. Yes. And
you're gonna do that with a credit card?
Yes. You can. And by the way, it's
an extra three hundred years off purgatory.
(46:05):
You Catholics ought to get there like that.
And fewer chains. Right?
Fewer chains and tears. Joanne, I wanna go
you and I have talked in the past.
Thanks to Laurie started,
introducing us. Uh-huh. And, yeah, I know you
have an astrological
background. Did any of that come into play
in with any red? You've given me up
(46:26):
my other, my other my other bio.
I have been,
an astrologer for long time now.
This started back when in theater,
I traded theater tickets to an astrologer who
was a radio astrologer.
I happen to be very analytical, got involved.
And,
years later,
(46:47):
she said, you can't just do this. You
and it's true.
For people to value things, sometimes they have
to they have to invest to do that.
Little by little, I built a practice.
And moving to New York City,
back in the day when I lived in
San Diego, Whoopi Goldberg and I both worked
at the same restaurant.
She she was the dishwasher, and I was
the waitress.
(47:08):
And,
when I got to New York That's a
movie right there. Right? Right?
And I've I had done some other things
with her,
there at the Old Globe. And when I
got to New York, you know, she was
big and doing her stuff. I wasn't you
know, couldn't figure out necessarily how to get
in there. One night, I'm coming home from
doing something,
and usually, I get off at one stop,
but on the on the subway,
(47:30):
but I hear a busker on his on
his violin,
playing,
the falling leaves.
What's this?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Okay. So I go I gotta go down
to the end of the platform where that
buskers play and give them a dollar. It
was on the other side of the platform,
so I came up where I usually wasn't.
(47:51):
And there at Fauci,
the Italian beef store, Whoopi's in there. I
went in.
We went up talking. She goes, girl, come
on and play poker with me. So for
the next three years, I played poker
at Whoopi's,
on Wednesday nights. Wow. Broke even over three
years.
And during That's a plus. That I thought
that was great. Met all kinds of people.
(48:11):
One of the people I met during that
time,
was John,
Lori.
John.
Who?
My the psychic.
Oh, John Edward. John Edward. I just said
Oh. John Edward. Okay. He was doing crossing
over, if anybody remembers that. And he's the
real deal.
(48:32):
I knew from and I and I don't
know why, but Whoopi
decided she was gonna introduce
him to
me to him as her astrologer,
which I mean, I'd done her try and
talk to her about it, but I go
and she's an astrologer. I go, okay. I
and I'd always worked in that capacity too.
Anyway, we played the forehead game, which is
where you put the card on your head.
Is it high or low? We both got
(48:53):
ours. He he decided I was a psychic,
which I am, by the way. Oh. So
so
he asked me to come on the show,
Crossing Over. And, it was great.
Got got biz out of the dealio.
Then we went on,
The View,
got got all yeah. And, went on doctor
(49:16):
Phil,
Sirius Radio, did all that stuff. And so
to this day, I still have a client
base
and,
have done all kinds of
actually, you know, it was very interesting. I
was I was scheduled to go to Paris
this,
fall
and,
which was gonna be a big thing and
(49:37):
whatever.
Speak to the American Club
of Paris that was founded by Benjamin Franklin,
but there was a a wacky Pisces with
a Gemini rising who just did not get
it together.
And we Those darn Gemini risers. Oh, you're
so right about that, Rick.
So
(49:58):
speaking.
Uh-huh. But,
so and plus, this was going on.
And so I went for
I can't believe I said this. Forget Paris.
I'm going to Brookings.
Hey, base. That's the future. There's another saying.
Forget Paris. Paris has no the beautiful ocean.
Brookings. I'm going to Brookings
(50:18):
because,
it's been a parallel,
system that I've done as far as careers.
Okay.
That's interesting. It is. It's Now I what
little I know, the John Edwards?
John Edward, no s on the Edward, was
he the men from Mars, Women's Venus, is
that the right thing to do?
Doctor
I had the wrong guy. Yeah. Okay.
(50:39):
But you were you were immersed in New
York, you say, for a little while? New
York? I lived in New York for five
and a half years. Oh my. My daughter
went to high school there.
Talk about I know. Broadway
in the middle of the She was gonna
start high school. I go, well, we're not
gonna stay here in San Diego. We're going
to
we're going to New York City and just
landed there, which was craziness.
(51:01):
Actually, I I went there because, one another
person who I'd,
been involved with or was, Daryl Hammond from
Saturday Night Live. Oh. I used to do
the opening at the improv
with a comedy sketch thing, and I met
him.
And he, he,
he's a brilliant man with, certain inabilities
to, like, tie his own shoes. So I
(51:23):
got a job as an assistant
doing x amount of things.
And then I went it was enough for
me to take me to New York and
take my daughter where she was gonna start
high school.
And and the high schools the public high
schools in New York, oh, so she went
to the Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis School for International
Studies or as she called it, the bootleg
(51:45):
high school.
Wow. And we did and then she went
on to SUNY Albany and got a business
degree.
So
Now you you mentioned stand up comedy. You
did some of that?
Indeed.
But I don't I can't think of anything
more
nerve wracking. Yeah. I mean, gotta be the
(52:05):
hardest job in the world. Oh, absolutely. You
know, I I I did not do
classic stand up. I did sketch comedy, which
is all set out or and and you're
improving and stuff. And, generally, there's somebody else
involved in the story. Because No. Real stand
ups,
those are like the, they're beyond my capacity.
I understand to be to be on it,
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to respond, to make your stuff. I I
remember hearing I can't remember which comedian said
it, but it's something about or or or,
saying was never let them see you sweat.
And I thought whatever if I ever got
up there, it would look like Niagara Falls.
Have you have you got a joke first,
Rick?
No.
I was gonna say,
you you haven't got a you got a
(52:47):
chance to tell the joke. Oh, god. Yeah.
No. It would be a dad joke, and
it would just fall. I I would need
the what's the old drum thing you do?
Rim shot. Rim shot. I'm shank you. Yeah.
No. No. No. I've always admired him. I
I always I Oh, it's When when I
lived in Sac well, born and raised around
Sacramento, but my my late wife and I,
we were always going downtown. They had a
little underground comedy club,
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and we were there almost every week seeing
new comics. Well,
I read a quote, not too long ago,
and I and I liked it. I don't
know who it's I can't give it its
provenance, but it said,
laughter is the sure sign of God's presence
in our life. There you go. And I
went I agree with that. I agree with
that because if you're laughing, you ain't crying.
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That's good. And that's just all the difference.
You know, it's a state of it's a
state and No. I I It's a godlike
state. I think laughter is It's the best.
It's it's healing. It's the best. It's really
healing. So anytime I can get a chuckle
Okay. Or or make someone chuckle, which is
even better. Right. Kill them with comedy. Bam.
There you go.
Are there chuckles in the show? No. There
(53:51):
aren't. No chuckles. Okay. I I I guess
I There will
be in, In the final Well, in the
next Broadway? In the next two thirds. Yes.
We could there are some humorous things. Okay.
No. No chuckles yet. It's a it's a
morality tale. Okay. You know? You don't laugh
too much at morality tales,
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but you can enjoy the music.
Yeah. That it it all sounds fantastic. Thank
you, Rick. I think we're gonna be very
lucky to
to be able to see this.
And we'll be on someday when it's, up
there on Broadway and Well, you're gonna be
there for the opening. Yeah. $300
a ticket, we'll say. No. We knew them
west. Come on. You've got the you've got
the cops. When's the last time you bought
(54:33):
tickets in Broadway?
Well, I yeah. No. These these
I bought tickets, I forget what I went
to see. Chicago, I think it was Uh-huh.
Years ago, and they had the the price
levels.
So I
I think probably the only thing they had
available was second to the most expensive. Right.
So the usher brought us up to our
(54:54):
seats, and they were actually two rows behind
us.
So I said, where are the cheapest seats?
And she pointed to those two. So I
paid extra money to get
two rows closer.
Well, that's that's But I was I was
happy to get in it all because that
was a wonderful
Yeah. It's it's called an experience. There's nothing
there's nothing that can move you like live
theater or music. Yeah. Or experiences. Yeah. Experiences.
(55:16):
Travel.
Right. Being being live and being there. Yeah.
Yeah. Again, like I said, Sacramento wasn't, wasn't
New York City, but believe me, my wife
Brookings is a New York City bank. No.
But it's a start. It's
It definitely is the start. Yeah. You gotta
start somewhere. That's the nature of it. And,
you know,
(55:37):
you know, theoretically,
wouldn't I just love to go to New
York, have a casting call,
get, you know, whoever, whatever? But, you know,
it's so much more interesting this way to
see what
the universe has chosen to create. Because, really,
it's it's beyond it. You know, I I
came up with an initial
concept. Right? Yeah. And we'll break it down
(55:59):
this way, but then everything else is just
what happens. Mhmm. The people who get involved,
the way the music goes, and so you
just bring it together till it's in focus
to something
that resembles
what you had in mind. And
Brookings to now I'm on the other side
of the border in little old Smith River,
but I'm here probably two or three times
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a day when I go across the How
far is that? Oh, god.
Six miles down the road. I'm right across
Okay. So, like, fifteen minutes? Oh, if Okay.
But this area is a magnet to me
for its beauty
Mhmm. Flora, fauna. I I think it attracts
that Wild Rivers. We we talk about that
a lot of
people came here to film different movies. I
(56:42):
think Star Wars was filmed just Uh-huh. Oh,
no. Anyway In the Red Riding Gold. Yeah.
It's natural
beauty. If you just looked at the mist
on the hills, we were looking at it.
Oh my gosh. Everything.
I go, it's stunning. I'm I'm just enamored
with this area. Oh, yeah. I really am.
And I think that's a draw
too. Well, I'm I'm glad you like it.
Oh,
(57:04):
I love it.
And we're getting down to less than a
couple of minutes. So I wanna obviously thank
everybody here
that,
and to get us all revved up to
get this Brookings to Broadway thing moving.
Thank you, Rick. Yeah. And I wanna Ray.
I wanna say thank you to Ray and
Rick and KCIW
(57:25):
and Lori for Yeah. Helping us project this
to really propel it forward.
Laurie is the unsung everything on this.
She's gotten it done. Yeah. Absolutely. My BFF.
Yeah. We have
a few people in this town that get
things done, and Laurie is one of them.
Okay. You've changed your tune since we started.
(57:45):
Right? Well, I do know It's his reclamation.
I didn't mean to say it happened to
Ray. I didn't mean to disrespect her. I
mean, she's,
put actually put together a news department and
things like that. Marvelous? It's marvelous. It is.
But it is. But you have to take
the good with the bad. You gotta be
scary to get that done. That's just the
way it goes.
Well, like I said, this has been great.
(58:07):
Yeah. Every we're I'm jazz,
to be part of this tomorrow. I can't
wait to go. Whether I have to stand
and peek through a window or not, I'll
I'll be there. Oh, you know, you could
be in your own little stool.
Oh, never mind. Do that. Just call for
things that don't work. I'll
do it. If I have to, I'll do
it.
Well, okay. Again, thank everybody for
(58:29):
being here and talking about this wonderful project,
Brookings to Broadway. Thank you. Right now, we're
in Brookings. We'll be talking about Broadway very
soon. Thank you. Thank you. Alright. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you all.
You're listening to KCIW
LP one hundred point seven
FM in beautiful Brookings, Oregon.
(58:50):
Thank you
all.
Well, hello again, KCIW
listeners, and welcome to Curry Cafe.
I'm volunteer Rick McNamer.
Every Sunday from three to four, your host,
Ray Gary, KCIW's
famous radio personality, and I put together a
panel of guests to discuss various topics of
interest that impact our wonderful community.
And there will be a little different today.
(00:25):
I'm not gonna give out the text line
because we're doing a recorded show
today rather than live.
So now here's Ray to tell us about
what's going on today on our show. I
want to tell you a little bit about
what's going on so far.
We usually do this live, and we sit
down and do it, and it works. And
now we're trying to record it, which should
be easier,
(00:45):
and we're in our second attempt at doing
that. But, anyway, we have a fun show
today. We're gonna be talking about
a, new production.
And it sounds to me like it'll be
a great production for people who,
hate The Christmas Carol. But, anyway, we will
go go ahead. Hate and love. Go around
the table. All are welcome. Have
(01:06):
have everybody introduce themselves and tell us exactly
why they're here.
My name is Joanne Reeves. I'm the producer
of the musical
and Xmas Carol, and not everybody hates Christmas
Carol. In fact, it's probably the most beloved
story that there is by Charles Dickens. I'm
known for being different than most people. So
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that's Maybe that's it. Well, join the crowd
this year, Ray. Join the crowd. I'm I'm
not fond of Christmas music or lights or
Christmas and junk. Humbug.
Right on. There's there's a character right there.
Exactly. Go ahead, Joanne. Okay. Thank you. So,
this is an adaptation. We have,
reduced the script quite a bit, and it
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is a rock musical.
Scrooge is a burnt out rocker.
He has a roadie, Bob Cratchit, who he
has abused.
Marley is a soulful singer who shows back
up
to say, I wear the chains I forged
in life. And, dude, if you don't change
your ways,
you are doomed.
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And through this musical,
we will have approximately 12 songs.
We've got three down so far
and the script, and we are building it
out where we'll have the rest of it.
And it will be a fully bonafide
rock musical.
And the music,
is composed,
by my friend,
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Rene Murillo.
Hello, who's on now? Hi. Tell us a
little about yourself, Renee.
Well, you know, just
musician. You know? Okay. That's good now. Give
them the give them the stuff, dude.
Where where were you here from? I'm sorry.
Where did you come from to get here?
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. We,
(02:53):
we're yeah. We live in Portland at the
moment, but, we or I,
originally from LA. So,
yeah, long way from home. Been out here
for, what, eight years now. Renee has is
a a composer, but he he's a musician
in bands
throughout Okay. Which fits which fits the requirements
for this. It's not classical. It's not symphonic.
(03:16):
It's
it's a pure rock musical.
And what we're also
so ever so grateful to Jason Liddell of
Threepenny
Theatre Yeah. Who is we've we've done this.
Also to Lori Gallo Stoddard who's making this
possible for us to sit here right now.
Because our goal was,
(03:37):
we wanna do this musical, but it's not
just to have it as a staged
theater.
What we're doing is recording it
to where we can make it
a documentary
to show what we're doing here.
But, also, well, you guys know. What's the
big what's the big movie musical out now?
Wicked. Right? Yeah. Right. And that kinda got
(03:58):
me going right there. I go,
if Wicked can do it,
an Xmas carol is not far off the
mark. That was kind of your inspiration for
this? You know, I was inspired years ago.
I I started in with the concept of
an Xmas carol,
oh, approximately twenty years ago, actually. Wow. As
I've done,
in regional theater and across The United States,
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any number of productions of A Christmas Carol,
musicals,
readers, theaters,
directed them. I must have done
twelve, fifteen,
versions of A Christmas Carol. This isn't your
first rodeo I hear. This is this is,
you know, it's the hoedie o time of
year. As a matter of fact,
two years, my daughter
played tiny Tim when she was four and
(04:42):
six because who needs a babysitter when when
she When you have a dad. When I've
got this cute well, she you know what
was interesting is she refused to be an
actress after those experience.
After she was stuck under the robe of
the ghost of Christmas present
and was, like, groin high for for numbers
of minutes, I said, I'm not paying for
(05:03):
therapy.
You're just not gonna go into theater, I
guess. Okay. And she did not. So, yes,
very familiar with A Christmas Carol. But this
is really different. It's,
it's kismet that, Renee and I got together
because it had it it was an idea
that I'd had
and and knew how it should kind of
shake out.
But it was through talking to each other
(05:25):
that I go, give me a sample of
something.
And he started with, Marley,
which is a tremendous song.
It it's soulful. It it gets down there.
And so I go, well, let's let's continue
with this. And then Laurie put us in
touch with Jason,
and that's how showbiz works, isn't it? Especially
(05:45):
live performance.
It's called
it either works or doesn't work. It could've
stopped right back there in the grocery aisle
when Renee and I were first talking.
But it you go you take it a
step by step,
and sometimes it works. And I wanna thank
Jason so much because he's worked with all
the actors.
He has he's been, like,
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at it, with you know, it's one of
those things theater.
You don't necessarily get a payoff right away.
In fact, you may never get a payoff,
as anybody knows. Right. But sometimes it's a
a miracle.
And that's what we're going for, Christmas miracle
this year. Well We would like to see
by next year, we have this fully developed
(06:27):
as a musical.
Someone wants to back it. As a matter
of fact,
if you love this idea,
you too could be a producer.
Contact me at no. Seriously.
It's it's it's all possible. Great. But it
starts with talent, and k. That's what we
got. Well and we will get to Jason's
(06:49):
well known in the, community here. We all
know him. Oh, he gets around. And Kat.
Anyway, I wanna go real quick where you
and Renee how did you guys originally get
together?
The store aisle. Seriously, we were talking,
and we wound up talking about,
what he does. I go, you're a composer.
And I go, oh, I'm in theater.
Whatever. I go, you know, I I go,
(07:10):
but I do have this and I do
have this musical I've been thinking about back
again, and it was because of Wicked, seriously.
Okay. It it was my inspiration. I was,
like, going, oh my god. I mean, have
you seen that? Now now, Renee, at this
point where she's saying, I do have this
idea, you're thinking, oh, no. Not another one.
Right?
As far as what? As far as somebody
else giving you yet another idea to to
(07:32):
write some music.
I
I, you know, I
he liked the idea right away. I I
I I I like her,
and I like her, like,
you know, just how she carries herself. And
I
I I respect people that are genuine. And
she gave me an idea, and I I
I was like, you know what? Like,
(07:54):
I got nothing to lose but everything to
gain. So I I was like, hey. You
know, here's,
what I came up with. Like, let me
know what you think. You know? And and
how long ago was
this roughly? This is gotta be about nine
months ago starting. Oh, okay. Okay. It's relatively
new. Has it been nine months? Yeah. Yeah.
I know it has.
Yeah. Tempus Fugit.
(08:15):
Yeah. So it was like one thing,
and I'm like because it I don't know
if he can really do this. Right? Like,
oh, let's have a little experiment.
Obviously, you're finding out that he really can
Oh my gosh. The way it's going. Oh
my gosh. Yes. I mean, have you heard
the voice? It's remarkable. And the music He's
got a little bit of it earlier, but
It it's it's it's Great. It and once
(08:36):
again, I say it's kismet because
you don't know. You could wind up going,
that was lovely
or some other that way, that's terrible. But
no. Okay. It was it was exactly,
what I thought of. In fact,
to begin with, I was, like, going
I thought of something, you know, in
a way, a composer went a little more
(08:58):
symphonic in certain kinds of ways. But, actually,
I came around to the idea of a
go I go, no. This is a this
is a a rock musical.
My background in in musicals
is much more traditional. Okay. So I've, it's
been adjusted.
And, Renee, you so you've been in very
you you are in a band? You're in
(09:18):
various band? I have one band at the
moment. Okay. I will have several
little projects, but yeah. I mean Okay. Yeah.
So and you do play around Portland at
different venues?
No. At the moment, we're just recording,
an EP.
Okay. Okay. Yeah. So if if this is
a rock musical, what what style of rock?
(09:41):
That's that's you know? Yeah. It all Would
it something Led Zeppelin? Or I mean, whatever
you wanna get out of it. But, I
mean, I
I mean,
for an example, Chains
was influenced by Arthur Brown. I don't know
if you know Arthur Brown. No.
Fire,
I'll teach you to burn. You know? Oh,
(10:01):
yeah. You know? I'll see you burn. Heavy
organ, you know, just,
you know, she she wanted, you know, burned
out rock star. So I I try to
pull out some kinda old cards, you know,
heavy organ, you know.
Hey. You know, maybe you can add a
little bit of, like, Doors sounding bass in
here. You know? You know, let's throw in
some, like, Mars Volta guitar playing and, you
(10:23):
know, just it's just kind of
sporadic.
You know, it's not something that
Well You know? Yeah. It just it it
got influenced by,
you know,
musicians that came before me. To say, obviously,
you're younger than Ray and I. I know
that. Yeah. So but you just
(10:44):
not one particular era or
I I love to say genre because of
Alex Trebek.
But I just call it a lot. All
over the place for but mostly in rock
and roll. Yeah. You know, I call it,
like, post psychedelic.
Okay. You know? Just
psychedelic rock, you know? Okay. For the most
part. Yeah. Cool. Alright. Yeah. Yeah.
So let's get to mister Jason here. Jason
(11:05):
Liddell.
Hi, Rick. Yeah.
Yeah. I'm I'm Jason Liddell. I'm really stoked
to be here, and I'm really excited to
have finally gotten to meet Joanne and Renee.
You know, we've been communicating for months and
months now, and now it's all coming together.
Right on. Jason is that guy, by the
way, when you go to an event in
a place in Brookings
(11:27):
and you see that guy standing there, it's
him.
Not doing anything. Just standing there. Yeah.
He he appears to be just standing there.
There may be a lot of deep thought
going on or,
the telepathic
direction. I make it look like I'm very
productive. Yes. That's all a ruse.
It's kinda how my career went sometimes Yeah.
(11:47):
When I work. I do wanna clarify, you
know,
so this officially isn't a Threepenny project. When
we first started talking, that was the idea.
Threepenny is a new company. I was a
cofounder of Threepenny Theater Co. It's now a
nonprofit. I'm no longer a founder. I'm a
I'm a volunteer.
Threepenny was just a bit too busy at
the time, and so I I took it
(12:09):
upon myself. We'd
get this going on our own.
We're having a little bit of help from
Threepenny, small donation,
in kind donation of, like, lights and stuff
to use, but it is not a Threepenny
Okay. Production. Okay.
But like, Joanne was saying, you know, and
I think kismet was a really good word
for that.
(12:30):
I had met Laurie,
I don't know, last year. Started doing some
some news reporting with KCOW, and Laurie's like,
hey. I got a friend working on this
project. Why don't you two talk? And I
was telling Renee earlier,
you know, I'd I'd well, I'd never done
anything like this. And it's easily one of
those projects where I could've gone, you know
what? I don't have the time right now,
(12:50):
or I don't know that I'm equipped to
do this and just put it to rest.
But I wanted to take a stab, and
I wanted to take take a risk and
and try something new. And and by new,
you know, I mean, working on a project
at the ground floor. You know, I've Right.
I've, almost fifteen years experience
performing arts in the area, but that's almost
(13:10):
been entirely
licensing shows and doing what they give you.
This is
the genesis
of an idea,
you know, where things
are bound to change and mold and adapt,
and it's all new territory for me. And
then tomorrow now, again, this is recorded, so
you have to people out there listening take
(13:32):
it as it is. But tomorrow will be
the first time it's gonna be
performed.
So For an audience. Yes. For an audience.
Yes. Which is exciting. It is. Okay.
Yeah. So
this is also new. This is even interesting.
It's unique. It's a one day performance.
You know, the idea of a live performance
kinda came about a little bit later in
(13:53):
the process. We're like, okay. Let's let's put
something together.
And,
I got a location. I got a small
venue.
It's,
you know, the place where Threepenny does most
of their shows. Okay.
Good relationship with the landlord. Good rates. We
we know the resources that we have. And,
we're like, okay. Let's figure out how to
do this. You know, we got a short
(14:13):
script. It's not gonna last too long, but
let's build a whole show around it, you
know, a more comprehensive
show with different So this really is the
what what's the word? Nascent, if you will?
That's a word. Time. Wow. Yeah. Is it
the right one? Let me make sure I
figured I did it right. It is the
right word. Okay. He's showing off.
(14:35):
Kinda word he learned in his railroad days.
Oh, no. That didn't happen in the railroad.
Things are on the track.
But, anyway, this is exciting. And so
what what is the length of it right
now roughly?
So we last timed
it at about twelve minutes. Oh, wow. Okay.
And so I'm thinking short. But why am
I gonna come see a twelve minute show?
(14:57):
It's not just a twelve minute show.
We're building it out into a bigger show.
We're going to do a premier performance,
tomorrow at two. Right. Then we're gonna have
a q and a with Joanne and Renee
and myself Oh. And spend a little time
so the audience can find out more information
from the creators. Excited.
And then, and then we'll do a second
performance
(15:17):
right after that. Oh. Yep. And then we'll
finish out with, some live music from Renee.
Some of And and the reason being for
the performances
and re is to record them.
We are excited to do them live,
that people can enjoy it and see what
we're doing.
But it's about recording it so it can
go
(15:38):
to a much broader,
interest group.
Theatrical producers, perhaps.
I know any number of people who who
run theaters around the country.
What we're after is backing to develop the
rest of it.
And it's it's cool that you picked
Brookings
to me. Brookings
(16:00):
picked me. Oh. I would never Flip that.
Flip that.
Well, I mean, I love Brookings. Yes. Yeah.
Yes.
So I think is it safe to say,
Joanne, you know, this is functioning as a
proof of concept?
It's a here's what we have. Here's what
we can do.
And Yes. And get on the wagon with
(16:20):
us. Well,
indeed.
For example,
when people hear Renee's music, certain they they
respond. Right? When Candace,
heard chains,
right away, she she loved the music. Awesome.
And that's what it's about, isn't it? If
you're doing a musical,
(16:41):
somebody better love the music to begin with.
So we Kind of important, I would say.
Did you just say that? Yeah. So what
we saw is that, okay, we're on the
right track.
But it
it's taken nine months to get to this,
and that's that's fifteen minutes.
Right? Mhmm. And we ain't perfect yet with
what we're doing in those fifteen minutes. But
(17:03):
the miracle
is Lori Gallers
Lori Gallo Stoddard,
who has won numerous
awards in various different mediums,
is going to edit this
to where we look like the shizzle.
No matter yeah. For sure.
We will be the shizzle, but it will
even be greater than that because
(17:26):
well,
if we created a whole musical here and
performed it, marvelous. But they're not driving in
from Poughkeepsie to watch it. We want Yet,
Penny.
There you go. We'll make it a package.
Just go to Brookings. Okay. See the show.
Stay somewhere.
No. What we wanna do is take it
out,
(17:46):
and make it either
either the move the production stage production.
Well, I have to give total credit to
Jason on this one. Oh, god. When discussing
it to begin with, we talked about a
documentary, which is what we're doing even with
this Laurie's shooting. Mhmm. Been shooting everything that
we've been doing. Right. So you can see
the process. People love to watch process.
(18:09):
Jason came up with a fabulous name for
for this documentary.
Brookings to Broadway.
Oh. Come on. That's great. You and I
had talked earlier, and I wrote that down.
I wanna I it's classical. But I do
wanna know It was the low hanging fruit.
It was right there. I know. But that
though those are archetypes. I mean, that that's
what people that's what people recognize.
(18:31):
I love alliteration.
Uh-huh. As do I.
Brookings to Broadway. It's an it's an idea.
Now Broadway might be,
a a major playhouse in San Diego. It
could be somewhere else. Right. We would prefer
Broadway. Right? Or and I know some people
there. Maybe it's off Broadway. However,
once again,
going for a bigger goal. Yes. Wanna make
(18:51):
that movie. Yeah. It'll be a Christmas how
many Christmas movies are there? Not enough. No.
Oh my god.
For Ray, too many. Two.
My my crazy. Are screwed. My heart kinda
stopped a little bit. Oh, sorry. Not an
not enough. My goodness.
You do have a resident screw. I love
(19:12):
it.
I love it. So, you know, god willing
and the creek don't rise. We'll get some
people who enjoy this.
Somebody rich, come on up. You could be
the producer. You wanna go to those awards,
dress up. Well, I can't promise it, but
we can talk about it. Yeah.
So so can can I just get so
the the performance
(19:33):
is is about fifteen minutes? Correct. And then
after that,
the people in the audience and the players
are gonna discuss? Correct. Okay.
You'll get to see it twice.
Okay. So Or or they'll Buy one, get
two. Or they'll wander out. No. You know
what? They will stay because it's a process.
Yeah. We're only just starting. This was the
first you know, they've been rehearsing, but this
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was the first one we had today with
sound and sound effects.
So anything can go wrong,
or it could go far. I would've been
a little bit. Or it could go very
right. Yeah. So and guess what? At these
prices,
Hello.
Because, like like we said before, I don't
know if I mentioned it. It's a free
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show. We're not we're not charging admission to
see this show. So
you buy one, you get two.
There you go.
Sounds good. And so while we're on the
topic of, you know, like, the cost of
it,
and one thing I think that's important is
this is done with a nearly zero budget.
You know, this is just off of the
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the blood, sweat, and tears of the people
involved. You know, we're gonna pay for some
space rent and paid for some posters to
go up, and that's about it. And
we wanna show, you know, here's what we
can do with nothing.
Imagine what we can do with something. Yeah.
You know? And
Well, it sounds like everybody here is inspired
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to make this thing go.
Absolutely.
It's it's amazing, isn't it? But, you know,
that's often the case in theater. There's so
many yeoman who who work,
wherever you go, there's somebody who loves theater,
who's not getting paid for it, but just
just loves it too much to not do
it. We we we have the film festival
here, and we get to meet producers and
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directors,
And and many of them are just what
you say. Exact you know, it's the arts.
Oh, yeah. It's the arts. Mhmm. And we
have to continue to support them in some
way, shape, or form
because
well, for me, like, watching the people around
the table today
doing
reading and singing,
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I go, this is an outlet.
People
people require an outlet. It's part of their
it's part of their soul. It's part of
their nature.
So that all as a producer
and a director,
I've always loved that part. I go and
a nurturer, basically.
Give people a chance
to shine,
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to feel
feel like there's more to life. And theater
and music does that, needless to say. And
it's so personal
rather than a movie.
Oh, truly truly that. That is the beauty
of theater. Yeah. You know? And, you know,
one one thing I found surprising,
you know, we're in a really small rural
area in Oregon, and one might think, you
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know, oh, we're culturally starved. We're starved for
the arts. Brookings actually has what I would
consider a significant amount of performing arts in
the area from theater to dance to musicians
and everything.
And I think the goal we need to
strive for is the cooperation, the community
bringing it all together. You know? We we
have a lot of of arts here, but
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we need
to team up and make big projects like
this. You know? We need the manpower and
and the resources.
And a big project like this is a
spectacular
opportunity,
I think, to really
really team up. Yeah. Brookings to Broadway. From
from Brookings to Broadway. From Brookings to Broadway.
I could I could see it up in
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lights. Your name and lights are Aston Tights.
How can I say that? Sorry.
And the and Yeah. You could say
You could say it. And the merch. Think
of the merch.
D, all of the how to get your
good t shirts, by the way. Okay. All
all of them just veer in charge of
t shirts. That was you don't have to
get any money for the t shirts, but
we can get your t shirt. Okay. Well,
(23:23):
see, once again, it's, Kismet. I now have
a T shirt guy. Okay. So and everybody
shows up who needs to show up. I
know a guy who knows a guy. I
know. He knows a guy. Exactly. Right on,
man. Exactly. He actually knows the cousin of
the guy, but,
anyway, it it would Close enough. Close enough.
Close enough. So it a little bit of
the particulars.
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So tomorrow, how many people will be on
stage performing,
roughly? We're gonna have eight. Eight. Eight people.
Yes. K.
We have
Ebenezer Scrooge. Of course, we have Scrooge. We
have Marley. We have,
the nephew. We have,
a charity man,
Bobby Cratchit,
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young Ebby,
and and,
and Bell, young young Ebenezer's,
first love. Oh, gosh. Yeah. Now if I
counted right, that was only seven. But I
include Renee. Renee is gonna make a a
guest appearance to sing vocals for, one of
Scrooge's songs. Nice. So we'll have eight up
there. And, again, you mentioned Chains was a
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song that you wrote,
Renee? I I I well, I mean, all
the words are Charles Dickens' words, but all
put to your music? Yeah. Everything is. Yeah.
Alright. Yeah.
And in your band, what instruments do you
play? Oh, I mean, well, I
write,
the music as well. But, yeah,
rhythm guitar and vocals.
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Okay. Alright. Yeah. Name's,
the name of the band's called Crocrosmia.
Okay. Yeah. Are they in town with you?
Or I'm sorry. Are they here with you?
Or I wish. I mean I mean, the
show Not me. The show would've just been,
you know Yeah. You know, some live music.
Why not? Oh, well, you're right.
Yeah. And then,
now that we're you know? Well, tomorrow,
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as part of the performance also, Renee will
be doing one of his original pieces,
for for the crowd so they can see
just what is that what is on Very
cool.
Music is that's not based on Dickens. So
we're gonna have we're gonna have a Renee
solo. Alright. Have we even mentioned what time
this is, happening? It's 2PM.
2PM. Yeah. So,
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tomorrow, Sunday,
December 7, 2PM at the Brookings Event Center
in Brookings, right next to Wildhair Barber and
Feather Your Nest. It is, like I said,
basically, the main base of operations for Threepenny
Yeah. Theater co shows.
And we it's
my favorite part about this place and about
what we've done in the past is it's
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a community center. It's completely blank and empty.
And we go in and create a theater
out of it, bring out all the seats,
with bigger productions. We put up flats and
all the stuff. And so we we turn
this little empty room into a viewing space,
into a theater for people.
Which is another part. It kinda goes to
where the Wild Rivers thing about not only
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that you guys producing,
singing, the music,
the writing, you you have to do all
the stagehand work too. Oh my god.
Yeah.
She took and model of it. Okay. Okay.
If only I I Master was it Jack
of all trades? Master of none? I don't
know. I I wish I think people would
benefit from knowing
what goes into just making art, period, be
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it be it theater or music or dance
or whatever. A lot of people come and
see shows, and hopefully, they love it.
But, boy, you know, if you knew, like,
what it took, not just physically, but mentally,
emotionally, financially.
I was gonna say, so what tomorrow start
December 7 again.
Starts at two, but people get there to
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set up probably very earlier than that much
earlier than that. Yeah. So luckily, this is
And later.
This is a a simplified
production. Yeah. Okay. But we're gonna get we'll
get there, you know, a few hours early
Yeah. Set up,
rehearse a few more times, you know, really,
really polish it before we start letting people
in.
I'm trying to think that old Jackson Browne
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song about how, the all the roadies.
Do you remember that one about about how
the roadies were all the Can you a
few bars?
Oh, god.
They would take me off the radio after.
Okay.
But it it told that story. You know,
they're really the ones making the whole thing
work. And after they after they roll all
the equipment, then they they pack up the
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equipment, put it anyway, it's a big deal.
It is.
We we've joked But you guys are also
the roadies right now, I'm assuming. I'm not.
We've we've joked in the past,
theater is a team sport.
You know, it's very much a team sport.
It takes everyone involved.
And when you do try to do it
all on your own, like when Kat and
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I started Yep. It's
absolutely exhausting, and I don't recommend it. It's
a masochistic endeavor.
Well,
occasionally, I know I Kat comes in here
a lot too, and I it was probably
a year or so ago, but I, and
she ran in and ran out because she's
got 500 things going. I said, hey, Kat.
Did we were doing a show that I
thought she might want to
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partake,
and she just gave me this exhausted look
like.
Not at this time. Kat was Kat was
originally gonna play a role, in our production,
but because they're so busy, they didn't have
the availability for it. Yeah.
Wow.
Well, I think it's gonna be a big
deal, exciting for Are you coming, Rick? I
certainly am. Are you coming? If I can
get them tickets, it's filling up. Oh, that's
(28:43):
right. Well, it's so that remains to be
it happen. This is I need two.
Okay. Are you committed to sitting? Is that
a joke? Is is sitting a deal breaker
for you?
I'm making a I'm making a joke like
you might have to stand. A standing room
only? It might be. Okay. Something went over
Ray's head for the first time ever. I
did a standing
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I did a standing room thing for cats
in New York, so I guess I can
handle it. It could be. Yeah. This is,
like I said, a one day event. Right.
30 seats. That's all we can that's all
we can really sell. It's very intimate,
and it's kind of exclusive at this point,
and almost all of our tickets are sold.
Okay. But now are will
will there be standing standing room only? I
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mean, can I mean, well I mean, they're
instead of would you prefer not?
I'm not sure about that. But Okay. As
this is not airing until after we've performed
it Right. This will not affect the number
of people that come in. And what I
would say is
we will be recording all this, and and
Laurie's gonna make a wonderful edited show of
this. So that's gonna be available
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for people to see online.
Mhmm. You'll be able to see what we
did in the future.
And Is there a time frame for that?
How how long might we have to be
I don't wanna push her because don't know,
Erin. She's right behind me, and I can
get She's right behind you.
She she seems calm she seems calm and
collected, but she can get nasty
(30:06):
defending herself. So just You better watch her.
I think someone's gonna pull Ray off the
air.
Approaching her when she's eating may be of,
Okay. Thank you for the There are things
the things you need to know about. Thank
you. Taking us Great. Taking us years to
learn. So it will be available for everybody
to watch online here Yes. It will. Whenever
(30:27):
Yes. It will. Because that's part of the
promotion because
30 people, and they don't know it's happening.
So somebody can watch that ex post facto
and go, I really like that.
I've got a ton of money.
Yeah. I think I need to get in
as a producer and make this happen.
(30:47):
You know,
I could we could use some Dometic cheese
up in here
if it were possible. Okay.
Okay. So a ton of money. This this
this would not be a deductible donation then
for this play, would it? Yes. It will
be. It'll be through a nonprofit. Oh, okay.
Yes. That is deductible.
But, you know, once again,
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it can be a small donation to keep
it going so we can get it created.
And I'm and I'm talking to the whales
out there.
Do you wanna go to an award ceremony
for your movie
that you produced?
Let's think big Yeah. Dude in a iron
lung that's leaving soon and Well as
I'm kidding. No. Not.
(31:32):
Well, you're already thinking big with the Brookings
to Broadway.
Exactly. Why why do it if you ain't
thinking And I I swear, I do love
that little that little saying. Right? Simple yet
effective. Of course. That's why I gotta give
him full credit. Beautiful. And one of the
big differences,
I think for this
that it was one of the first parts
of Joanne's vision when we started talking was
(31:54):
ultimately,
she wants to be able to pay people
for their time and their effort and their
blood, sweat, and tears. And for people like
us, you know, like she was saying earlier,
we just do theater for no pay. That
that's the expectation is, you know. Yeah. Which
is why we only did,
the first fifteen minutes to get in the
first three songs
to show how fabulous they were because
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you cannot make people
do
that much,
work that you want to be top flight
creative
without
some without some remuneration,
without some appreciation. You can't just say thanks.
I run,
a a couple of regional theaters,
and I've always been proud to say they
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were nonprofits
always paid to everybody from the actors to
the tech to the everybody. Sometimes it wasn't
much. Mhmm. But everyone was always paid because,
that's basically a sign of respect. Thought we
could get away with it on this one,
because
it's new. It's starting.
We have not asked
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tons of time, although Jason has done
heroic yeoman's work,
and done a lot more for for nothing
so far. But he's in on the deal.
That's what we got going.
And so Brookings to Broadway.
Yeah.
Renee, I believe you
wanted to say something earlier. And I just,
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you know, wanted to give a quick little
shout out to Gus Carrasco, my buddy that's
helped
me mix the songs and master them and,
the,
you know, awesome guitar that that he does,
you know,
in the intro. I mean,
the the guy is phenomenal, but I just,
you know, shout outs to him and Great.
You know, he's not here, but he's part
(33:41):
of it as well. So Yeah. Great. You
know what would be amazing when we get
you know, we get to our our Broadway
place. We're doing the show, but with a
live pit. Oh. With a live their live
band. That's how it's now. Yeah.
Because my my experience is it's all canned
music. You know, we don't have the resources
to have a live orchestration for our musicals.
And so
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to me, that that's an exciting prospect to
me to actually have people over on the
side, down the pit, whatever, playing guitar drums.
Camera action. The I mean, lights,
revolving sets. Imagine Scrooge
is in he he's a burnout rocker. We've
got him watching his show. Right? It sounds
and lights. And and then you it's it
and you can you can you can,
(34:24):
circle the bed around where he's in a
totally different place. Theater's magical that way. You
name it. Yeah? Yeah. So And with people
of our generation, you say burnt out rocker.
Mhmm. You're gonna attract crowds, man.
Well Because
I know 80 to 90% of them are
burnt out rockers. Well, it it it is
novel, isn't it? No. It is great, man.
(34:46):
And I bet we could, for Broadway,
cast some remarkable,
old rocker. Now what's your suggestion, lads? Who
would you see? Keith Richards. He'll still be
alive. Oh, you think so?
Cryogenically
frozen?
Maybe so.
He's beaten the odds so far, man. You
know what? I just don't I don't know
(35:07):
that. I know. I know. But yes. That's
the one that came comes to my mind.
You know you know who would
alright. Moment.
It's okay. This is alright.
Dion Dion on the Belmonts. I don't know
if you've heard him recently, but he's still
current. He is a Belmonts. Damn good singer.
(35:29):
Okay. Well And he's around? Yeah. Yeah. Great?
I was like, oh, yeah. Yeah. He's still
making runs. Oh, you know, there's you know,
you think of an Ozzy Osbourne type, he's
gone. But any He's gone. Yeah. He's gone.
RIP. Mick Jagger's not gonna do it.
But who?
I said RIP. You said RIP. Oh, yeah.
Alright. But, but
along those lines, you know, that is part
(35:50):
of our concept also. Well, when it gets
to the Broadway part, yeah, they'll be interested
in doing it. That is correct. Maybe we
can get a Todd Rudrin.
Todd Rundgren? No. He's Haven't heard that one
for a while. He's Well, no. He he
does Broadway.
I know. And you know what? He has
a really sweet voice. Hello.
It's me.
No. It's sweet. It's me started. Okay. We
(36:11):
won't get started.
We won't get started. Speaking of oh, go
ahead. Oh, just gonna say there's there's ones
we haven't thought of,
and I would think that someone would adore
to do the part. God. You would fix
it. It's full on. I mean Yeah. The
guy is, he is going down. He when
when we see him, he's like
he's snorting. He's doing. He's yelling.
(36:31):
He's watching. Right? He's you know? And he
still thinks he's it. Well, now you have
to Go ahead. Those are the guys that
trap like flies. So you need to have
a lot of people
ready to replace
these people that you're finding. They're still as
far as as they die. It's like every
other day, you're Can can you sing, Ray?
No.
(36:53):
No.
Okay. Well,
once again, that's that's where you have understudies.
Yeah. You you know, you bet you gotta
have understudies for the drug overdoses.
So so not not only the oldie old
folks. Now there are there are some local
youth that are involved. Adorable youth I've met
today. Yeah. Yeah. We have,
(37:14):
two younger people.
One of them is,
Donovan Guthrie. He's in in high school. K.
I actually I met him years ago and
his parents.
Very first thing, we were doing a Christmas
variety show, I believe, at the Checo Playhouse.
And he must have been
10 or younger. And he'd written a sketch,
(37:37):
a little comedy sketch
that just creaked of Monty Python. I went
to his dad. I don't like does he
watch Monty Python? He's like, oh my god.
Yes. And so he and I both acted
in it, and it was a a really
fun experience,
you know, getting to help make a young
kid's
a lot of fun
watching Monty Python Fabulous. Brings me back,
(37:58):
my eight year old stepchild way back when
I took him with me to see the
meaning of life. Oh.
And he might not have understood most of
it, but he loves it to this, and
he's 50. Does
Three minutes. Show of hands if anybody knows
a woman that likes money python.
Hey.
My wife I don't care what it is,
(38:18):
but I love money pie. I mean, it's
not like,
I don't know. Does she speak the King's
English?
Yes. I will be rolling all over the
couch laughing, and if I have a woman
companionship,
that's not funny.
Some do. And I said, oh, it is
definitely funny. What do you mean?
(38:40):
So back to the youth,
and, Jason, you were taught I'm
not familiar with the high school, even the
if there is a junior high here. Is
there an
art arts program pretty good here in this
town for high school? The high school does
have a drama program.
I haven't seen anything Okay. In a while.
I do believe
right now they are working on a production
(39:02):
of an originally adapted Wizard of Oz. Oh,
wow. Yeah. The high the high school puts
that on.
Junior high, Azalea Middle School doesn't have a
drama program anymore. They have a class master,
but the high school definitely has one. And
I know
Crescent Elk Middle School in Crescent City has
a drama program. I'll be darned. That's cool.
And they don't get enough money.
(39:24):
I know we're asking for money, but the
schools don't get enough money for the arts.
The arts got wiped out. Yeah. And that
And that hurts. I think that hurt I
think the arts is important. Tell it. Yeah.
I really the choir. While you're writing those
checks, KCIW
could always use some money.
Nonprofit
tax deductible.
Let's get back to us.
(39:45):
Okay.
I agree. I will just I'll just that.
Right? I will sit here for the rest
of the hour and be quiet. I'm well
known for doing that. I'm
I I wish I had tons of money.
I'd support you myself.
Okay.
Well, right now, we're we're we wanna support
what's going on
tomorrow and
Mhmm. You know? And going forward. And going
(40:06):
forward for the I I'm gonna come back
to this. I'm all be thinking about this
a lot, the Brookings to Broadway. I just
love it. It just Right?
Means so much, man. Make it happen. It's
perfect. Wait until spring because the weather will
be really rough on that trip right now.
Not hard weather. Yeah. I love No. No.
When you get out of the rough weather,
(40:26):
though idea.
Perfect. Once you get out of our weather,
weather becomes weather.
Whether or not you do or not. Right.
Yes. So I have a question for Joanne,
if you guys don't mind. Please.
What was it like
handing over this project to someone you'd never
met before? Scary. I'm a control monger, Laurie
(40:48):
will tell you, of sorts.
But I also,
I'm
very logical and,
a pretty good detective.
So
with,
just a few questions,
understanding
work ethic,
I realized that Jason could do it. I
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wasn't
all I what I did not know I
knew he could do the process
going through it. He set it up, rehearsals,
this or that, the times.
What I
did not know
was his capacity
to recognize talent,
which is a which is a talent in
and of itself. Oh, yeah. But what I
(41:29):
watched around this table today,
I go, he got the best talents that
he could get in in Brookings,
which
there's talent everywhere.
You know? It just has to be developed.
So,
I was I was thrilled to to discover
it. Yeah. Because you can you can go,
(41:50):
oh.
And in this case, it was great. I
really wanna follow-up on that because Renee and
I were actually just talking about that earlier.
You do find talent in the
least expected places, and you know there's talent
around.
But it feels like there's been a gap
between people that want to experience
the arts that people like us provide and
(42:10):
the people that wanna participate.
And trying to figure out The pipe. Is
it the fear? It's the pipeline.
There's just not that much,
you know, this goes way back. Remember work
progress administration
boys?
You remember that? Do you remember it? Of
course, I do because it set me up.
In high school into college, They had arts
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programs where you could
I would do stuff through the Old Globe
Theater where we would go out to schools
and do all kinds of stuff because that
there was still residual
and then came in all the rest of
it, and they go art arts has got
to go. And in my opinion,
arts has got to come back bigger than
ever.
It is the nourishment.
A lot of a lot of people ain't
(42:52):
they're not gonna do math. They're not gonna
do AI. They're not gonna do anything.
And arts is the panacea. It's the comfort.
And
I think it's like the a a a
yin and yang of education, if you wanna
call that educate.
You you need both. And you're right. Not
everybody has both. One of my idols is
(43:13):
Albert Einstein. I quote him often. And so
he he he talks about the fact he
said I do most of my work while
asleep. And he also talked about creativity
was the source
of how he got to stuff. Now he
combined some amazing things there. But
creativity,
leads to all kinds leads to all kinds
(43:34):
leads to comfort, and it makes it helps,
a lot of people. I've known
when I was younger,
It helped a lot of people get off
the street and do something that interests them.
Yeah. It
it's a it's,
it should be supported.
Once again,
if you would like to support the arts,
(43:57):
Threepenny
Theatre would like your support here in Brookings.
They deserve it. They work hard. Jason Liddell
is at it.
Please support Threepenny Theatre. And my goal for
next time, the next time, the next phase
or or the the finished product to to
be able to make it a Threepenny thing,
to have that that full on product here.
Promise you that one, Jason. Okay.
(44:19):
It's it as I remain the producer of
this event,
you are in, dude Mhmm. Because of what
you do. I can tell you that. This
much I know.
Where sponsorship and where it will be
headed by
remains to be seen.
The goal is though, we will we will
(44:39):
find a basis to to get this supported.
If if someone were to just come in
with a bundle, you wouldn't even have to
do it nonprofit. You'd go straight to the,
to the the
to the you're you're part of it, your
your payback, all the there's all dividends, the
rest of it, however, all that chopped. So
(45:00):
at this stage,
yes. It is what it is.
Brookings to Broadway,
Jason Zen.
Speaking of giving, we're down to about three
weeks in this year that you can give
money that will be deductible
on this year's taxes.
Yes. And that
you won't you won't have to give to
(45:20):
May I suggest block is ticking. Yeah. Yes.
May I suggest you send those checks
to KCIW
at
for
an Xmas Carol.
Alright? Awesome.
KCIW,
you got it? Put that down. Put that
down. Yeah. Send the checks, and please do.
I've you know, if you have an interest
in the arts, it ain't like nobody's getting
(45:42):
rich. All it's gonna do is pay some
actors, some lighting guys, the rest of it.
Send those checks
to k c I w
dot
org attention
and x miss Carol.
Thank you very much. And Keith. Yes. And
you're gonna do that with a credit card?
Yes. You can. And by the way, it's
an extra three hundred years off purgatory.
(46:05):
You Catholics ought to get there like that.
And fewer chains. Right?
Fewer chains and tears. Joanne, I wanna go
you and I have talked in the past.
Thanks to Laurie started,
introducing us. Uh-huh. And, yeah, I know you
have an astrological
background. Did any of that come into play
in with any red? You've given me up
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my other, my other my other bio.
I have been,
an astrologer for long time now.
This started back when in theater,
I traded theater tickets to an astrologer who
was a radio astrologer.
I happen to be very analytical, got involved.
And,
years later,
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she said, you can't just do this. You
and it's true.
For people to value things, sometimes they have
to they have to invest to do that.
Little by little, I built a practice.
And moving to New York City,
back in the day when I lived in
San Diego, Whoopi Goldberg and I both worked
at the same restaurant.
She she was the dishwasher, and I was
the waitress.
(47:08):
And,
when I got to New York That's a
movie right there. Right? Right?
And I've I had done some other things
with her,
there at the Old Globe. And when I
got to New York, you know, she was
big and doing her stuff. I wasn't you
know, couldn't figure out necessarily how to get
in there. One night, I'm coming home from
doing something,
and usually, I get off at one stop,
but on the on the subway,
(47:30):
but I hear a busker on his on
his violin,
playing,
the falling leaves.
What's this?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Okay. So I go I gotta go down
to the end of the platform where that
buskers play and give them a dollar. It
was on the other side of the platform,
so I came up where I usually wasn't.
(47:51):
And there at Fauci,
the Italian beef store, Whoopi's in there. I
went in.
We went up talking. She goes, girl, come
on and play poker with me. So for
the next three years, I played poker
at Whoopi's,
on Wednesday nights. Wow. Broke even over three
years.
And during That's a plus. That I thought
that was great. Met all kinds of people.
(48:11):
One of the people I met during that
time,
was John,
Lori.
John.
Who?
My the psychic.
Oh, John Edward. John Edward. I just said
Oh. John Edward. Okay. He was doing crossing
over, if anybody remembers that. And he's the
real deal.
(48:32):
I knew from and I and I don't
know why, but Whoopi
decided she was gonna introduce
him to
me to him as her astrologer,
which I mean, I'd done her try and
talk to her about it, but I go
and she's an astrologer. I go, okay. I
and I'd always worked in that capacity too.
Anyway, we played the forehead game, which is
where you put the card on your head.
Is it high or low? We both got
(48:53):
ours. He he decided I was a psychic,
which I am, by the way. Oh. So
so
he asked me to come on the show,
Crossing Over. And, it was great.
Got got biz out of the dealio.
Then we went on,
The View,
got got all yeah. And, went on doctor
(49:16):
Phil,
Sirius Radio, did all that stuff. And so
to this day, I still have a client
base
and,
have done all kinds of
actually, you know, it was very interesting. I
was I was scheduled to go to Paris
this,
fall
and,
which was gonna be a big thing and
(49:37):
whatever.
Speak to the American Club
of Paris that was founded by Benjamin Franklin,
but there was a a wacky Pisces with
a Gemini rising who just did not get
it together.
And we Those darn Gemini risers. Oh, you're
so right about that, Rick.
So
(49:58):
speaking.
Uh-huh. But,
so and plus, this was going on.
And so I went for
I can't believe I said this. Forget Paris.
I'm going to Brookings.
Hey, base. That's the future. There's another saying.
Forget Paris. Paris has no the beautiful ocean.
Brookings. I'm going to Brookings
(50:18):
because,
it's been a parallel,
system that I've done as far as careers.
Okay.
That's interesting. It is. It's Now I what
little I know, the John Edwards?
John Edward, no s on the Edward, was
he the men from Mars, Women's Venus, is
that the right thing to do?
Doctor
I had the wrong guy. Yeah. Okay.
(50:39):
But you were you were immersed in New
York, you say, for a little while? New
York? I lived in New York for five
and a half years. Oh my. My daughter
went to high school there.
Talk about I know. Broadway
in the middle of the She was gonna
start high school. I go, well, we're not
gonna stay here in San Diego. We're going
to
we're going to New York City and just
landed there, which was craziness.
(51:01):
Actually, I I went there because, one another
person who I'd,
been involved with or was, Daryl Hammond from
Saturday Night Live. Oh. I used to do
the opening at the improv
with a comedy sketch thing, and I met
him.
And he, he,
he's a brilliant man with, certain inabilities
to, like, tie his own shoes. So I
(51:23):
got a job as an assistant
doing x amount of things.
And then I went it was enough for
me to take me to New York and
take my daughter where she was gonna start
high school.
And and the high schools the public high
schools in New York, oh, so she went
to the Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis School for International
Studies or as she called it, the bootleg
(51:45):
high school.
Wow. And we did and then she went
on to SUNY Albany and got a business
degree.
So
Now you you mentioned stand up comedy. You
did some of that?
Indeed.
But I don't I can't think of anything
more
nerve wracking. Yeah. I mean, gotta be the
(52:05):
hardest job in the world. Oh, absolutely. You
know, I I I did not do
classic stand up. I did sketch comedy, which
is all set out or and and you're
improving and stuff. And, generally, there's somebody else
involved in the story. Because No. Real stand
ups,
those are like the, they're beyond my capacity.
I understand to be to be on it,
(52:26):
to respond, to make your stuff. I I
remember hearing I can't remember which comedian said
it, but it's something about or or or,
saying was never let them see you sweat.
And I thought whatever if I ever got
up there, it would look like Niagara Falls.
Have you have you got a joke first,
Rick?
No.
I was gonna say,
you you haven't got a you got a
(52:47):
chance to tell the joke. Oh, god. Yeah.
No. It would be a dad joke, and
it would just fall. I I would need
the what's the old drum thing you do?
Rim shot. Rim shot. I'm shank you. Yeah.
No. No. No. I've always admired him. I
I always I Oh, it's When when I
lived in Sac well, born and raised around
Sacramento, but my my late wife and I,
we were always going downtown. They had a
little underground comedy club,
(53:08):
and we were there almost every week seeing
new comics. Well,
I read a quote, not too long ago,
and I and I liked it. I don't
know who it's I can't give it its
provenance, but it said,
laughter is the sure sign of God's presence
in our life. There you go. And I
went I agree with that. I agree with
that because if you're laughing, you ain't crying.
(53:29):
That's good. And that's just all the difference.
You know, it's a state of it's a
state and No. I I It's a godlike
state. I think laughter is It's the best.
It's it's healing. It's the best. It's really
healing. So anytime I can get a chuckle
Okay. Or or make someone chuckle, which is
even better. Right. Kill them with comedy. Bam.
There you go.
Are there chuckles in the show? No. There
(53:51):
aren't. No chuckles. Okay. I I I guess
I There will
be in, In the final Well, in the
next Broadway? In the next two thirds. Yes.
We could there are some humorous things. Okay.
No. No chuckles yet. It's a it's a
morality tale. Okay. You know? You don't laugh
too much at morality tales,
(54:12):
but you can enjoy the music.
Yeah. That it it all sounds fantastic. Thank
you, Rick. I think we're gonna be very
lucky to
to be able to see this.
And we'll be on someday when it's, up
there on Broadway and Well, you're gonna be
there for the opening. Yeah. $300
a ticket, we'll say. No. We knew them
west. Come on. You've got the you've got
the cops. When's the last time you bought
(54:33):
tickets in Broadway?
Well, I yeah. No. These these
I bought tickets, I forget what I went
to see. Chicago, I think it was Uh-huh.
Years ago, and they had the the price
levels.
So I
I think probably the only thing they had
available was second to the most expensive. Right.
So the usher brought us up to our
(54:54):
seats, and they were actually two rows behind
us.
So I said, where are the cheapest seats?
And she pointed to those two. So I
paid extra money to get
two rows closer.
Well, that's that's But I was I was
happy to get in it all because that
was a wonderful
Yeah. It's it's called an experience. There's nothing
there's nothing that can move you like live
theater or music. Yeah. Or experiences. Yeah. Experiences.
(55:16):
Travel.
Right. Being being live and being there. Yeah.
Yeah. Again, like I said, Sacramento wasn't, wasn't
New York City, but believe me, my wife
Brookings is a New York City bank. No.
But it's a start. It's
It definitely is the start. Yeah. You gotta
start somewhere. That's the nature of it. And,
you know,
(55:37):
you know, theoretically,
wouldn't I just love to go to New
York, have a casting call,
get, you know, whoever, whatever? But, you know,
it's so much more interesting this way to
see what
the universe has chosen to create. Because, really,
it's it's beyond it. You know, I I
came up with an initial
concept. Right? Yeah. And we'll break it down
(55:59):
this way, but then everything else is just
what happens. Mhmm. The people who get involved,
the way the music goes, and so you
just bring it together till it's in focus
to something
that resembles
what you had in mind. And
Brookings to now I'm on the other side
of the border in little old Smith River,
but I'm here probably two or three times
(56:20):
a day when I go across the How
far is that? Oh, god.
Six miles down the road. I'm right across
Okay. So, like, fifteen minutes? Oh, if Okay.
But this area is a magnet to me
for its beauty
Mhmm. Flora, fauna. I I think it attracts
that Wild Rivers. We we talk about that
a lot of
people came here to film different movies. I
(56:42):
think Star Wars was filmed just Uh-huh. Oh,
no. Anyway In the Red Riding Gold. Yeah.
It's natural
beauty. If you just looked at the mist
on the hills, we were looking at it.
Oh my gosh. Everything.
I go, it's stunning. I'm I'm just enamored
with this area. Oh, yeah. I really am.
And I think that's a draw
too. Well, I'm I'm glad you like it.
Oh,
(57:04):
I love it.
And we're getting down to less than a
couple of minutes. So I wanna obviously thank
everybody here
that,
and to get us all revved up to
get this Brookings to Broadway thing moving.
Thank you, Rick. Yeah. And I wanna Ray.
I wanna say thank you to Ray and
Rick and KCIW
(57:25):
and Lori for Yeah. Helping us project this
to really propel it forward.
Laurie is the unsung everything on this.
She's gotten it done. Yeah. Absolutely. My BFF.
Yeah. We have
a few people in this town that get
things done, and Laurie is one of them.
Okay. You've changed your tune since we started.
(57:45):
Right? Well, I do know It's his reclamation.
I didn't mean to say it happened to
Ray. I didn't mean to disrespect her. I
mean, she's,
put actually put together a news department and
things like that. Marvelous? It's marvelous. It is.
But it is. But you have to take
the good with the bad. You gotta be
scary to get that done. That's just the
way it goes.
Well, like I said, this has been great.
(58:07):
Yeah. Every we're I'm jazz,
to be part of this tomorrow. I can't
wait to go. Whether I have to stand
and peek through a window or not, I'll
I'll be there. Oh, you know, you could
be in your own little stool.
Oh, never mind. Do that. Just call for
things that don't work. I'll
do it. If I have to, I'll do
it.
Well, okay. Again, thank everybody for
(58:29):
being here and talking about this wonderful project,
Brookings to Broadway. Thank you. Right now, we're
in Brookings. We'll be talking about Broadway very
soon. Thank you. Thank you. Alright. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you all.
You're listening to KCIW
LP one hundred point seven
FM in beautiful Brookings, Oregon.
(58:50):
Thank you
all.
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