December 15, 2025 • 59 mins
In this episode of Curry Café, hosts Ray Gary and Rick McNamer talk with musicians Bobby Joe Holman and Buddy Wright about their rich musical journeys, including playing with legends like Jerry Lee Lewis and Sonny & Cher. They discuss their move to Brookings, where they’ve found inspiration in both the welcoming community and the area’s natural beauty. Highlights include stories of unique instruments, collaborative projects, and local music events. The guests also share personal anecdotes, from blending blues and country influences to a Vietnam War submarine mission.
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Hosts: Ray Gary, Rick McNamer; Producers: Ray Gary, Rick McNamer
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(00:05):
Well, hello again, KCIW
listeners, and welcome to Curry Cafe.
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to four, your host, Ray Gary, KCIW's
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and I put together a panel of guests
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(00:25):
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Okay. Now here's Ray to tell us about
today's show. Well, today, we
have some guests that are gonna put every
(00:46):
other guest we've ever had to shame. We
have two,
actually famous people
who may actually even be interesting, unlike our
usual guest. But
so I'm gonna go now
around the table clockwise, and we'll have them
introduce themselves.
Let's tell you a little bit about themselves
and maybe sell you some merch if they
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have any. I don't.
Hi, y'all. Bobby Joe Holman here.
My wife and I, Janet, have
been in the area here probably close to
a month now. We came up, and it's
such wonderful,
wonderful experience to to be here and obviously
be a part of the, station, and we
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thank you all for inviting us on,
my partner. Welcome.
Oh, well, there yeah. I'm I'm Buddy Wright,
and I forgot what it oh, yes.
That'll be it for me.
Okay. Like I said, we're gonna have some
really interesting guests today. They'll have some
yeah.
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That's perfect. Yes. I, normally go under the
pseudonym of the reverend b Wright,
And, of course, I save everybody that I
can.
Those that I can't, it's
pretty well a lost cause. So I think
Did did you bring some extra
magic
powder or something today? Are you trying to
(02:10):
Well, yeah. Save some of the people around
here. I know what they're up to. It
looks like I'm in the right place. Yes.
They are. At this stage. There's a saving
need to station it.
Thank you very much. Glad to be here.
Well, buddy, how so how long have you
been here in the Bronx area? Only eight
years.
Oh, same about oh, well, little a year
more than me, but okay. Yeah. And I've
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been retarded up here, and, we came here
from,
where was What? Nevada.
That's my manager. Alright. Alright. He's really cute,
but look out. Yes. Left hook.
Oh, okay.
We won't annoy her. Yeah.
Yeah. We have one of those here. Yeah.
And being up here, I have that one
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saying that being from Texas, Texas,
green in my life.
This is a green area, is it?
Yeah. I'm used to sand.
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So the other thing, there's not a rattlesnake
under every tree here too. No. But I
ragged that up. We got a a rattlesnake
at our house,
and it was green.
And
it's a unique one. Yeah. You had a
rattlesnake here? It was real rattlesnake.
Wild outside or Yeah. Outside, it was green.
You piqued Ray's interest. It's a snake.
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Yeah. Yeah. I understood. Look into that because
I've
I I've lived here for a while now,
and I know one of the
things I find most disappointing is there are
no venomous snakes here,
and it just makes walking in the woods
boring. You don't have you don't have to
listen for every round.
Langhard and I are good friends, and both
of us have the same problem. And we've
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been threatening
to go inland a little bit because you
don't have to go very far, and there
are rattlesnakes. And we bring back a couple
of gravid females and make this place a
little more interesting to live in.
Okay. I'll save you if I can, but
for that one, it's gonna be tough. I'd
like to see that green rattlesnake. Yeah.
And and were
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you, imbibing in something when you saw No.
No. Okay.
I'm I'm,
I wear a bracelet that says I can't
smoke.
A bracelet keeps you from smoking? Yeah. Well,
according to the marshal.
Anyway,
she saw it. I saw it and it
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ran up to the house
and it it did that little rattle. It
was a young fat one because of the
the moles out here they ate. Yeah.
Plenty of those here. I know that. Yeah.
And we couldn't figure it out. A green,
and it's got
rattling.
And we had a couple of contractor guys
working on the house rehabbing it for us.
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They came up and they went,
that's a grain rattlesnake.
Never and one guy
crapshared it and took it home.
But I have one quick question back to,
Buddy. What part of Nevada were you from?
Where were you living at? Las Vegas. Las
Vegas. Carson City, Reno. Oh, all over the
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place. I was I was a musican.
And yeah. And it was a great, great
place for music. At the time, it's not
so much. Okay. Well, speaking of music, that's
kind of why we're all here. Uh-huh.
Mister Bobby Joe, who we just met just
a few weeks ago Yes, sir. Plays one
heck of a harmonica along with other instruments.
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And and now, Buddy, I haven't heard yet.
I know you guys play together. Yeah. Buddy,
what you play stand up bass and other
instruments? I'm a multiple
instrumental. Alright. I play all kinds of percussion,
string bass,
electric bass,
and, guicas. And you haven't heard of those?
I have not. No. Brazil. It's,
(06:06):
they're made out of a human skull, and
the leather is and they got a little
bamboo stick that sticks up to the like
a drum. Yeah. And then you have a
a wet,
kerchief,
and you rub it on the stick.
(06:27):
You're right. I haven't heard that instantly. Yeah.
It's pretty pretty tricky.
Alright.
Well, so so Bobby Joe and I was
pretty
you sent me the you gave me the
CD. Yeah. I wasn't able to have I
don't have a player, but I did pull
it up. So your,
album, the one you have more albums than
that. No. Actually, that's Is this the one?
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Just the one. Yeah. That was and that
was
because of my wife
getting on me that I should have something.
I've played on movies. I've played on a
lot of, you know, some hit records and
stuff like that and and and jingles that
played all over the country. Oh, wow.
But, she just find you've gotta have something
with you on it. So that was
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that was a
a a mixture of all these different performances
and Well, let me tell you, I listened
to it this morning via YouTube and I
was blown away. Oh, thank you. Blown away.
Amen, Jeff. And yeah. And,
Buddy, the one that you
I didn't listen to every song, but you
introduced one like it was a revival meeting
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and the voice was crowded. It was just
wonderful. Thank you. It was a concert that
we did, and that was Buddy playing, and
and we had the drummer. He's since passed
away, our good friend.
Both Buddy and I is, was Floyd Snead,
the original drummer of Three Dog Night. Okay.
And then we then that's one of the
best bands I've ever ever had the opportunity
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to be a part of. And I had
this, old Joe Lechu,
the lead guitar player, and then we had
a a a Hammond b three guy got
that was really good. And then we had
Oostogie,
one of the things in the mountains when
guys will come out there and they're they're
getting away from child support or whatever, they
don't they never use their name. And so
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his
his name's Stogie, and he but he was
a killer,
sax player. Buddy brought him in. Okay. And,
and so I had it was at that
time, it was a six piece Yeah. With
Stogie. And,
we just tore it up. We did a
a Well, like I said,
the out the music I heard was fantastic.
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And by the way, y'all, you can text
in, remember, at (541)
661-4098.
And the name of the CD album, did
were there albums out there too? Yeah. I
guess well, no. It's just that CD. Okay.
Yeah. The albums are way back. Yeah. In
old time. They don't have many. Yeah. Oh,
no. They're doing them again. Yeah. They're they're
bringing they brought back. True audio file. You
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have to listen to vinyl. Oh, okay. Cool.
Listen to that Boy. Crisp sound. Okay. That's
right. But the, the CD is titled Heart
to Harp, Heart like your heart. Yes. Harp
like the h a r p, the harmonica.
Yeah. And, so, yeah, well, go ahead and
tell us a little more about Well, that
was yeah. That was How that got pretty
good. Really, really,
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really fun.
I had archived I had performances,
especially the one with
with Buddy on it and Floyd, and
and I had had that archive. The guy,
recorded it for us.
And then other performances that I had, and
then I have some original music on it
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that I had a a Korg
sequencer.
And and it was so neat because you
could just with the key, oh, you're in
the key of,
d, and you go d, and it's and
it's playing the bass. It had the drums
in it all sequenced. And then, okay, I
wanna change it, and I wanna go to
the g chord. It just flawless. It would
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go right in. It's like cats playing.
And you could slow it up and speed
it up, you know, whatever you wanted and
get put some feeling into it. And so
I just wrote these songs some of these
songs, and
and then I put that on the CD
its itself. And so Okay. Some of those
songs are original with just me, and I
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made a a little attempt to play in
some lead guitar on it and stuff. I'm
not much of a guitarist,
but but, you know,
why not? Well, if if you were playing
guitar in that CD, you are, but whoever
it was, that was a lot of great
stuff. Mhmm. So so how did you and
Buddy originally
get together? Hooked up gosh, Buddy. What what
(10:41):
was it? We were playing in the House
Of Ill Repute down there in Texas. No.
No. In What was Nevada. Yeah. Nevada. That's
I've been so many places
in my life and time.
Oh.
And,
it just was a natural fit
and
he and he plays,
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that Delta
blues guitar and it brings back
memories
of all of that
dark
from Mississippi all the way oh, yeah. Yeah.
I said, I gotta meet that guy.
Well, that's awesome. Yeah. And then about how
how long ago was that? Oh, yeah. That's
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been twenty years ago. Oh, yeah. We were
yeah. We were just recently out of prison
there. And with That's another show. Yeah. That
was another one. How that all happened? Well,
we'll leave it. As I know, Bob and
Joe, we've talked too that you
you you kind of go from different
genres. I Yeah. Say that. I I always
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say that I think of Alex Trebek. That's
where I come up. But,
the blues is probably the main,
main inspiration. That was always been the real
hook for me. And country blues is what
you Well, now I I'm into a lot
of country blues, and and I love to
tell a story because
my
mom,
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she would say, oh, you have such a
beautiful voice. You used to sing country. And
I go, oh, man. I don't wanna sing
stinking country. I wanna I wanna be a
blues guy with the sunglasses and be all
cool and everything.
And now I enjoy that country
the country tunes with the the with the
blues feeling You bet. So much, and I'm
able to do it play enough on the
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guitar. I'm not much of a guitarist, but,
and so she's she's up in up in
the sky, but she's, like, I'm sure just
laughing,
say mom always knows. You know, coming from
the Beatles generation,
yeah,
When, like, when they hit and I I
was in a garage band, yada yada yada.
And, of course, country I had at the
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time. Oh, no. No. No. I can't like
country. But the first music I remember
is my dad. I was probably three, four,
five playing
Johnny Cash Yeah. And,
so I'm losing everybody. Well, Marty Robbins. Marty
oh my god. Marty Robbins, big time.
And the I think we talked about the
lady, and I can't remember her name, passed
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away. Well, you're talking about,
Why is this leaving me? Well, we're we're
seeing her decline for a year. Anyway, all
that old stuff that I remember, and I've
fallen in love with all that stuff again.
Well, you you we start to as we
get older, I think, and and for me,
I started realizing just
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really how good those cats were. Yes. I
mean, way, way, way good.
And and Another mind blowing experience for me
was I went in I was probably in
my twenties. Yeah. I saw Willie Nelson, Emmylou
Harris Yeah. And Merle Haggard on stage together.
Now I was I think of what was
that, Okie from Muskogee and oh. Yeah. I
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I wish Merle wasn't even there.
But
after that show, I fell in love with
that guy. He was talented, man. Oh, man.
Oh, man. Big old banjo guitar. And then
together, those voices
It was magic. Boy, he talked about Merle
Heikkin was Yes. Yes. Well, that was it.
I saw him by mistake one time. I
went to see the the Rolling Stones, and
believe it or not, he was the opening
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act. Wow. For the Stones? Wow. Yeah. Oh,
how cool was that? I thought, well, okay.
I've heard him. He's gonna be okay. But
I'm it was just tedious for me to
sit and listen to him do about Well,
I heard him do forty minutes or an
hour. I don't know. Well, yeah. I mean,
you were waiting for the Stones.
And you were stoned. We lived in Little
Rock at the time.
And and
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we we, you know, the usher brings you
your seats and all that. And he's standing
talking to another Little Rock friend evidently and,
on the cell phone saying, yeah, I'm over
here at the stadium.
Merle Haggard
is playing here today. He said, oh oh,
and and the Rolling Stones are gonna be
here too.
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Yeah. This
my my thing with Merle Haggard, I wished
he would have never done Ogi from Muskogee.
Gotcha. I just because It's like a signature
that he didn't really get. You know, and
I just you know, but he made a
big hit and that really gave him his
start. But, man, when I saw him on
The Waltons
and he did the song, and now I'm
doing,
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I can't even remember the name of the
song. Don't,
be my baby
something my
anyhow, he
played this kind of
troubadour
guy
that's rolling through town,
and they had their little bar, and they
talked to him, and they kept him playing.
And he did this song,
Oh, Call Me Darling. Yeah. You call me
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darling.
And he just won me then
because the cat could really, really sing Yeah.
And soulful and write these tunes, but it
was just I just had a hard time
like Ray did with our name was the
Oakey from Muskogee. I just could not
get behind that, you know. In Vietnam on
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the radio, we had the country western hour.
And good part of my platoon was from
New York and other places.
And the Okies would all sit around the
radio, and they that song got played every
time. But I heard there's two stories about
that that I heard. One, I heard him
interviewed years ago
where he said that was meant to be
a
(16:17):
Sarcast? Sarcastic song. He said, yeah. He said
he said, we smoke more dope than any
any band from from, England,
LA.
And he said, but they were riding down
their on on their way to a a
gig one time, and they saw this Welcome
to Muskogee or something. And they they made
up that song as they were riding along.
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And then,
two
years after that, I heard him say, yeah.
We had to keep up the, the old
good USA. In in other words,
completely the opposite of what he had said
before. Well, it worked at the time. Yeah.
It did. That's for sure. Not that I
don't believe anything entertainers say anyway.
It's it's all publicity.
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Everything's a publicity stuff except when they die.
I said, well, okay. That's not a publicity
stuff.
Well, I don't know if okay. But I
think,
like I just said,
Emmylou Harris for a while. Oh, I I
love her. This golden voice, but it's not
only publicity. It's what they love to do.
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Right. And they're they're Yes. Buddy have to
have that, you know. It's,
it's just,
the the gift, you know, and and,
I feel so honored and obviously playing music
with Buddy and
and people at that level, at that stature
of
of I just get to do this. And
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it's and it's such a it's it's just
such an honor. It's it's so exciting because,
man,
I, I've always been a kind of a
a renegade
bohemian guy that I was always a black
sheep of the family because they were all
straight they had jobs. Well, I mean, I
worked jobs, but now I always just wanted
to play music. Yeah.
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And they go, you gotta be out of
your mind. You're stupid. You know? Yeah. We
we go to open mic that you've been
through a couple of things every Thursday night.
There's people show up there that some of
them are professionals. They play Yeah. In bars
and stuff around too, but almost all of
them could if they wanted to. But they
come up there every Thursday night and put
a couple of hours in just because they
like playing the music. Right. As pure fun.
(18:25):
Yes. It is. And, yeah, that Chetco brewery
open mic night, I've been I unfortunately have
missed
Yeah. The three times we've been there. I
know. Terrible. Terrible. Are you coming back?
Yeah. We probably will, buddy. Next Thursday, we'll
be back. Yeah. We you're probably in the
house when you came. Yeah. You're really one
of the Oh. The stars of the night.
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Well,
yeah, how about me blowing the harp out?
The song I was doing this deal deal,
and then this song I've been only playing
this harp for, like, ten years and nurturing
around and it play all gay. Great. And,
boy, the that night,
Thursday night, I'm playing and doing my little
lick things and it goes
and it just stopped.
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Not one note, the whole bloody scale and
it went.
So I couldn't play. I'm going,
and it wouldn't it wouldn't play. It would
I'll be darn. So Publicity
stunt. Yeah. That's
it. No. I'd I'd messed up or I'd
forgot the song now. For those of you
listening that don't know what we're talking about,
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every Thursday night at the
Chetco Brewery. Chetco Brewery,
they're in the back. They they have an
open night. Open mic.
And,
lots of people come every week,
get up and sing two or three songs.
And open mic sounds like I was telling
somebody that one time, and they said, oh,
like a karaoke. I said, no. It's not
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karaoke. I said, these are real people who
can really play. And everybody that plays there
is at least good.
And they go from good to really, really
good. There's some really good performers there.
They'll go up there and buy yourself a
beer, sit
And even though I haven't been there yet,
and then slap myself, but I know that
both of you guys were very well received.
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Oh, really? Thank you. It's
it's been such a it's
I I've just been blown away,
like, you're you guys are saying of how
this area
has just really opened arms to my wife
and I, you know. And of course, our
Dallas
are really great.
Our dear friends, you know, have helped us
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so much because we got here on a
I'm surprised we weren't hitchhiking and dragging that
trailer along with it with the problems. Yeah.
You had a little rough
But we made it. We made it. And
so,
our dear friends, they helped us and let
us use a vehicle until I was able
to get a vehicle. And, oh, man, it's
been But it's all good because one, maybe,
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a little thing has been a little testy,
but then the good Lord, the angels come
out and everything. I've met this this journey.
I have met
so many
people,
angels that just
helped me, and they I didn't know them
from Adam, you know? Yeah.
Prime example right here.
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Oh, yes. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. Right here.
That of just letting you guys
Oh, and that that's the other thing that
about that open mic. Everybody all the entertainers
help each other. And Correct. God help you
if you criticize,
like, the the previous guy
to one of the other entertainers. Yeah. They
will defend him Yeah. For sure. To the
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end regardless how bad he was. Yeah. Well,
but that's that's the thing. It's it's the
mindset and it's it's the the honor to
be able to go and do that. And
so, yeah, everybody makes mistakes. So when there's
a a cadre of people living there almost
every week.
And after they're a while, you get to
know some of those and you get to
(21:57):
hear some of the rumors.
Who's doing who's who's dating, who who's cheating
on who, and Pretty soon, we'll get to
hear a rumor about you guys.
Exactly. Who started drinking again, all that kind
of stuff. Hey. We have a we have
a text. Going there. We have a text,
Ray, so hold on now. Oh, okay. How
long has it been? But we do have
a text at our text line, (541)
661-4098.
(22:19):
Question for you all. Y'all say this. Yeah.
How long have you had the name Grateful
Geezer,
Which I think is a dynamite.
Eighty four years. Yeah.
Little longer than I am. No. No.
The the lovely the lovely Margo, she's the
one that came up with what about two
(22:39):
or three weeks ago?
The Grateful Geezers. Okay. Well, it works. Yeah.
Right
on. And, you know, back to this area,
we took the
and Buddy and I have been here about
this. I've been here a little over seven.
You've been Yeah. Eight.
And you and Janet have a month. Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a welcoming area. I knew that when
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I first came up. I came up from
the Sacramento area.
And, I mean, it is a very welcoming
Oh, it's just my
eye. I've been Smith River the other side,
but this whole area.
And not only that, but we have the
natural beauty.
Maybe that's part of it, but there's a
lot of natural Thank you very much.
Well, I I was referring to the way
Buddy looked today.
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A natural beauty. Well, that's it. That's it.
You know, we,
my wife and I, we
try to walk
the that beach area there,
at least twice a day. Yep. And
every time we walk, we meet somebody else.
We had a talk with Victoria.
And this gal, she had her neat little
(23:43):
dog,
and she had, this piece of driftwood that
she was so proud. She was gonna take
it home, and her and her boyfriend was
going to cut the slim part off, and
it was she was gonna do something in
her house, and it was gonna be like
this. And we talked for about twenty minutes
or so, and she we went through all
her her life and our life. I mustn't
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have had much of her life as she
was able to tell you in twenty minutes.
Well, pit little parts of it. You know,
there's there's that strip there, the the paved
strip and the Yes.
I call that
the mall for seniors.
You go there and meet meet all your
friends and stuff or meet new people. Have
a dog, and you will have new people
(24:25):
all over. All the time. I I I
used to have a dog, and I thought,
well, people are just being friendly, but
and I thought, but they're also being nosy.
I just wanna walk my dog. I don't
wanna tell you all about the dog. I
don't care that my dog smells your dog.
But then yeah. They're definitely check magnets. So
Well, that's no. I was gonna say that.
(24:46):
I was here
twenty years ago,
and I was out at, a Gold Beach,
and they're working at the Turtle Rock
RV Park. Oh, wow. Okay. And so you
had days off. And I had my dog,
Jack.
He was a really neat border collie dog.
And I'd go
when I was because I was single at
the time, and I
(25:07):
we we would go down to the, the,
harbor area there.
And it was
the babe just
oh, what a nice little dog. And it
well, he was pretty good sized dog, though.
And I go, thank you, Jack, baby. You
know? Of course, it's not that I ever
became of it, but still, it was neat
to have a a woman talk to you.
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They were interested in a dog. They could've
carried him, not me, man. I have a
friend that took it a step further. He
brought two box turtles with him. And they're
walking I mean, everybody had to say something.
Yeah. They could pick or choose who we
wanted to talk. They did very well with
them, by the way.
And that is this is a dog community
Yeah. And that which I love now. I
I lost my little girl over a year
(25:50):
ago,
but it what's funny now is
people will see me,
like, they don't remember my name Yeah. But
they'll remember my dog, Susie. Yeah. Sure.
Where where Susie is?
But that's okay. But but also, you're right.
Just walking the beaches, meet people. And I've
met a lot of people that way. We
end up Oh, they just let me have
(26:11):
coffee or let's come on. Yeah. It's it's
One guy yesterday,
we're walking it and some big old big
old burly guy and his gal and they
were sitting on the rock part, the the
stone thing there.
And he goes,
oh, what a beautiful day. And they were
like, yeah. And he goes, I've got some
stuff in my head, some things, issues I
(26:33):
gotta deal with, but I how and they're
pushed way back, and then I says, everybody's
got issues, brother. You know? But how can
you
be mean to somebody when you're having that
ocean?
You just solve it. Yes. You can. And
that's one that needs saving. Yep. That's correct.
And I can't remember my phone number.
(26:54):
Man. Yeah. No. No. No. That that's very
true here. And it it's we've talked about
this. Yeah. Bobby Joe and I had breakfast
the other day. Wonderful time. Yeah. And, yeah,
it's
however you wanna deal with it out there,
and, it's it's meditation.
Oh, yeah? No. That's a good word, Ben.
Look at that ocean, and and then we
talk we have an additional fun stuff now
(27:15):
because it is starting to be whale whale
migration, which is a big thing for me,
big thing. Sure. And you saw one the
other day. Yeah. My wife and I, she
goes, oh, there's a whale out there. Oh,
no.
There we had that guy. We walked by
the guy. He goes, oh, there's whales out
there. We're going, oh, really? Well, we're looking
around. Right. And then she saw it. And
boy, he come out and
(27:36):
sprouted and everything. And I've never seen just
one just one guy. And, of course, then
we
followed him, and he hover around. And I
was it was kinda like going deer hunting
and putting horns on deers because I oh,
there he is. No. No. That's a rock.
You know? Right. Right. Then there's stuff I
know. Yeah. It is easy to get fooled.
Well,
because you wanna see it. So, yeah, you
(27:57):
know?
But we did see it. There was he
was he was traveling.
And,
and who was explaining that? Was was it
you telling me about it? It's the migration.
Oh, there's a big migration happening. Now now
that time.
Person up at Harris Beach? What's that? There's
a, like, a guide or somebody there? No.
There will be, there will be a
(28:19):
volunteer from I think they're up at a
Depot Bay or we're gonna go into whale
watching here real quick, but I gotta
the volunteers will be at Harris Beach, I
think, starting December 27, and they do it
for about a week,
to, yeah, help explain to everybody. And I've
been to Harris Beach, and I've
at this time of year, you can see
a lot of whale activity. It's wonderful. Again,
just another little aspect of this great place
(28:42):
that we live. Yeah. Well, they they were,
Marco and Buddy, they they live on the
Checo River.
And, man, that's that's beautiful. And they're Yes.
Placing Yes. Everything. Salmon
like this.
Oh, right.
I will.
For those of you on the radio and
not
didn't find out how big those salmon were.
(29:03):
Yeah. He had his arm put up his
arm put up.
So, hey, it's half god. We're halfway through.
We'll get back to the music here real
quick, but I just wanna alert everybody again
to our text line,
(541)
661-4098.
And you're listening
to KCIW
LP
one hundred point seven FM in beautiful Brookings.
(29:25):
So, Bobby Joe, I was reading the press
kit. Oh, yeah.
Fantastic stuff. But so you came. You had
a big thing in South Dakota.
Yeah. And you have a love for that
place, and I can feel that from Yeah.
What you talked about. But I kind of
equate it to, you say there's like a
a special type of music there. It almost
(29:46):
sounded like it made me think of the,
like, the Apalachian.
Apalachian. Apalachian.
Yeah. Thank you. And I think and you
mentioned the, the Carter
family Right. Which I remember. That's old stuff,
but it's beautiful stuff, man. Well, it was
what's
that's what
touched me and and being there at the
(30:07):
Black Hills
The Black Hills is it's has its own
world.
And, you know I've never been there, but
yeah. Oh, man. It's it's some it it
it's like the Appalachian, but only I think
it's got more because that's where you've got,
you've got dead wood and you've got,
the custer of him coming up and saying
(30:27):
that's, you know, there's gold in them there,
hills. And it was talking about Dead Wood
and and,
of course, of all the folklore of,
a wild bill being shot and all that
thing right there in Deadwood. A lot of
people. But but the but the music and,
the music is just incredible. And there's a
(30:47):
lot it's like
here,
there's these all these wonderful,
talented
people Yes. That writers and and,
artists and,
songsters, all this stuff. And yet, they're they're
like us. It's, you know, I say there
may be,
you know, snow on the rooftop, but there's
(31:08):
still fire in the kitchen, you know, because
you have to. You know? And,
but there's I was trying to bring those
people
out,
and that's what we'll be doing, with Buddy
and I. We'll we'll be,
you know, I've I can't wait to play
with this this,
this fiddle player that you're telling.
Somebody, Ray, was somebody was telling me about
(31:30):
this older lady. She's in her nineties. Oh,
Shirley Hyatt. Shirley Hyatt. Yes. My god. I'm
gonna have
she's wonderful. She does, two shows here.
And she's Hi. Fan of hair shit. Oh,
yeah. And see She's classically trained. She takes
the violin And still old music for that
man. Really? Very, very seriously. It still exists?
(31:50):
And if you if you have a flat
note or
Yeah. She'll let you know about it.
And how I I I think she already
I think she's probably 92,
might guess. I put And just as
wonderful,
sharpened spry as it is. Yes. You you
will be warned about her sharp tongue.
(32:11):
You That's not dulled, even a little bit.
Yeah. Well, that's but that's it. That's the
way it should be, you know, that,
or you got a text here. Okay. Yeah.
I I didn't mean it. No. No. No.
But we do have a text, and we
haven't gotten any in a while, so I'm
excited.
Thank you, texters.
And this texter says, the name of my
band was the Northbank Blues Band,
(32:32):
and I enjoy creating names looking for a
band. At open mic this week, two people
thought Grateful Geezers is a great name, and
two people had problems with geezers.
Probably geezer. Well, no. He he was at
he was at Well, and Ray yeah. My
only problem with it is it's just such
an overused word. Every motor home that you're
(32:54):
going down,
shoegis, who's going south?
Well, Ray, you're wrong.
I still think it was an overused word,
but I haven't been able to come up
with a fix.
Anyway, I should criticize something I can't fix.
Texter finishes by saying, I would prefer the
Grateful
Texture, but I believe Grateful Geezers is gonna
(33:15):
stay. But there you go. Thank you, really,
for taking care of you. You say that,
but there's
a half hour left to the show. We'll
get more suggestions.
Possibly.
Possibly.
So, Reverend, it's it is Sunday, and I
I think that, there's probably some of us
out there
feeling a little guilty about something we may
have done
over the past
(33:37):
period of time since we've been to church?
Do you do you do you think the
spirit has moved you to the point where
you could do some preaching?
Yes. Yeah.
It never leaves.
It it's it's forever,
so you don't have to worry about your
little soul. There you go.
It will find you. He wants you
to That was a truly ins inspiration. Yes,
(33:59):
I love it.
You're full of this race, isn't it, Marty?
Okay. I I wanna go back real quick,
Bobby Joe. You were saying,
about your gray on top or whatever. Yeah.
Yeah. I reading your the press kit, I
love that you said it the South Dakota
experience, if you will Yeah. Gave you,
(34:20):
a boost.
I have to put it in quote, at
your age.
Some people don't like to say it, but
in other words, it did. It gave you,
like, a
second wind, if you will Yeah. For music.
Well, you get it's really, you know, you
could talk to anybody that's been in it
for a long, long time. You have your,
you know, it's all super super, then then
(34:42):
it kinda fades.
And
and then to get re
Reacquainted?
Yes. Well,
inspired
is I There you go. Word. Yeah.
And
that was what happened
going to
to, the Black Hills and to South Dakota
is when I found there's a
(35:03):
I
I get I I'm kinda like Ray. I
get kinda tired of this and that because
of the Appalachian
Mountains, you know, so many so many stories
and wonderful stories about how all these people
come over from Europe,
different genres and everything, but they brought their
music and in the Appalachian, everybody's broke and
(35:23):
everything, but it's all about music. The blues.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The it's all about the
music and everything, and they make all these
wonderful movies about it. Yes, sir. But the
but the Black Hills,
there was inner soul, man. And then there
is because you have the Lakota Indians,
and you have,
you have gold
(35:44):
instead of
instead of coal. I mean, there's a little
coal, but it was gold. And
just like when,
Buddy and Margo there in
Virginia City, it was silver. They had gold,
but then they had but it was big
time silver. I mean, big time. You know?
Yeah. I I can remember doing a show
there and and, about that they had, like,
(36:05):
750
miles
of tunnels
there in in Virginia City to go straight
down and then go like this because they'd
follow the veins.
Mhmm. And,
so getting back to the Black Hills thing,
it's just
and,
it found out about there's a a guy
(36:25):
named Badger Clark.
Now when I was a kid and I
was going to well, when I went to
a junior
college,
I learned about
Henry David Thoreau.
Okay. And
him being a naturalist and living like that.
Well, this cat,
(36:47):
Badger Clark,
he went out in the Black Hills. He
goes out there and he builds them a
cabin with no running water, no electricity,
and he lived there for forty five years.
And people would come to me. He was
a he was a poet
and a naturalist, and he'd tell his stories,
and
(37:07):
and
and song he writes songs. And one of
the songs that,
I do,
is,
that he had written.
And so there was this culture.
There's a a lot of just big talent
that,
you know, and so Well, again, and that
was unknown to me. I mean, when you
when I read about that stuff, it it
(37:29):
sounds like a wonderful I've never been there.
Wonderful, beautiful area like we're
Well, I hear about that. Mountains,
like you said. Yeah.
But a lot of inspirational
music that you Yeah. And you just had
to you just had to tap into
to that that vein, like Yeah. Like what
we have been very fortunate and you wonderful
(37:50):
people have given us the opportunity to to
tap back into it because there is so
much. You riddle off this gal's name. And,
we
bought a car over here at Bernie's.
Bernie Bishop? Bernie Bishop. Yep. And the gal
that,
helped,
was sales gal, her name is Megan.
She was saying about
(38:11):
her grandpa is,
an old time
Appalachian player, but he could play, you know,
mandolin, banjo,
fiddle, and all this stuff. Right. And I
said, man, I said and the cat's I'm
sure in his nineties.
And I said, so the the Grateful Geese
is working there where we got these old
(38:32):
you know, there's there's snow on the rooftop,
but there's still fire in the kitchen. You
betcha. And and
and it's given
the the spirit comes out of these people,
I mean, all of the people that I
meet is I love being here because it's
it's our it's our age.
But was Yeah. There's a lot of grateful
geezers here. Yes. They were gonna say it
(38:54):
and keep saying it.
Was a lot of that fiddling that was
inspired by Irish immigrants that were coming? Yes.
Yeah. Because the Athabascan Indians up along the
Yukon River, they have a lot of fiddlers,
and it's all See, there there you go.
See, I I just love stuff that where
did that stuff come from? Yeah. It was
these these different,
(39:15):
people. Right. And, you know, and,
and that that's why the music now and
I mentioned about that, about the Carter, the
old man Carter.
He was so smart because
he'd figured out, wow, these songs. So he'd
go and he'd record these songs, and then
he'd publish those songs.
(39:35):
See? This was
a husband from
from Mabelle Yeah. Carter? Yeah. No. Mabelle Carter
was, I think, the the sister.
I thought May Maybelle was the one that
could Mother Maybelle. Yeah. We could play the
guitar. She was really good at the certain
I call her the rats. Singer
woman Okay. Was married to,
(39:58):
I think, it's John or whatever. Oh, okay.
Okay. The old man. And the old man
or Frank Carter, he was the one that,
would go and he'd,
you know, there's a great movie out called,
Song
Chaser,
Songcatcher.
And anyhow, that was it, which she did.
But but but he'd get
he'd get the he'd hear these songs. He's
(40:20):
and they'd they'd been traditional. They'd been been
playing for hundreds of years, and they'd bring
them over there.
And then he'd get it and, boy, and
then publish it.
And and, that put that country music
Yeah. On the map. That didn't that kinda
started the Grand Ole Opry. Yeah. Didn't it?
Mhmm. That's a great great tradition.
(40:40):
Hey. Before it's we got twenty minutes left
almost. But before, I I know both of
you guys have backgrounds in various different Yeah.
Famous
people groups. But why don't you give us
some of those? Well, you talk.
I've been very fortunate to be in the
movies. I was on doctor Quinn, doctor Quinn
and all that stuff. Medicine Woman. Right? Yeah.
(41:02):
Okay. And I've been in a few movies
and stuff. I've just always background actors
thing, but it was quite an experience. I
bet. And,
but, you talked to brother, the good reverend,
and he's he's played with the cats, the
way the
the stuff, the real deal. Okay. Yeah. I
am guilty of that.
(41:23):
I am. I am. I got to play
with Sonny and Cher.
Oh. And, of course, Sonny
was just
a truth
seeker.
Oh, really? And that's why he turned into
a
entrepreneur
and he was 12 of it, manure.
And
and Entrepreneur? Yeah. He got into politics and
(41:44):
stuff. Oh, yeah. And Great field.
Cher is
hysterical.
And you never know. She'll come out of
left field on you. She's kinda like you.
I'm looking at Ray there.
Yes.
Yeah. And,
oh, the
Johnny and Edgar Winters. Wow. Yeah. I grew
up with them. I'm playing with them.
(42:06):
Mickey Gilley. Mickey Gilley too? Yeah. You're you're
jumping around there. Jerry Lee Lewis. I don't
know how big a whole lot. You say
You betcha. And he was a big guy,
and he would whoop your
yeah. He was a little volatile. Yeah. He
really was. Didn't call him the killer for
nothing. Yes. Correct. Yeah.
But he was a fine guy. I played
(42:28):
bass with him and just enjoyed it, and
I never got beat up by him or
anything.
It was funny.
And then
there was always
people like,
Alghero
and I, yeah, played and hang with him.
And then my good friend, Willie Arnelis,
I got with Sunday and Sherry and got
(42:49):
Willie turned on. Okay. And then well, the
list goes on and on, and it just
it was so much fun. I was a
kid, didn't know nothing, still though, but
they were kinda they were like you guys,
very welcoming and and safe. You felt safe.
You
you know? That's a good thing. Yeah. Because
nobody's
(43:10):
judging you if you can get up there
and play for me
and not screw me up,
you're welcome. Well, and just what you said
there, get up and play. And
little known to a lot of people yes.
I play guitar too, but both me and
my dog. I got eyesore for you. But
but it's one thing. I've only been up
on stage maybe a few times. And what's
(43:31):
the the adage, never let them see you
sweat?
I think it was like Niagara Falls when
I got there, man. So but it's a
talent itself to be able to get up
there and have it. Oh, you have to
you have to gotta be full of it
a little bit just to get by. You
do. I think so. Because you gotta set
that you gotta become this
this person.
Yeah. Person,
(43:52):
then being real shy and all I think,
you know, you gotta have them
throw stuff at them and lie to them
and everything.
Well,
that's quite a history though to be
with all
of those people.
And then Bobby Joe too, you have a
radio and a TV. Well, you've already said
you've been on
the TV. Yeah. But a radio background yourself.
(44:15):
Yeah. I had
I've been
the the disc jockey thing and
I Oh, wow. KHBR
AM and FM in Hillsborough, Texas.
And I was a drive home guy. And
I just get this gig. I was I
was gonna wanna be a professional, and so
I was gonna go to this school and
(44:36):
everything and Broadcasting school? Uh-huh. And and and
but I get this gig in Hillsborough, Texas.
Yeah. We need this guy under the and
they gave me drive home time. Well, the
only thing there was
you had to read the news
and
god truth. This is the truth. And there
was a lot of, Yugoslavian
people
there, and so their names were all this
(44:58):
deal.
And so
I still say it is very embarrassing, but
I I read the deal and
there's and then there's a creepy, papy, poopy
class,
and it was crate paper poppy class. Yeah.
You built tape. But it was creepy, papy,
poopy. Online radio. Online radio. And I'm sure
(45:19):
that the manager, they they're at dinner because
right at dinner, they're going,
what was that?
Your listenership probably went up 20% though when
I got out there. This guy's really funny.
Right on, man.
God. But that was, you know and then
I've had,
we had a I had a buddy on
(45:39):
our show. It was called Chillin' with Bobby
Joe, and
and,
we'd play music. We had some really neat
players come and play music live.
This is at the station that you're talking
about? Yeah. No. This was this no. This
was in, in Reno, Nevada Oh, oh, okay.
At,
America
what is it? I can't remember, and I'm
(46:01):
not gonna tell.
America matters? America matters. Yeah. Madam. Now we're
talking about Madam. I don't care.
And,
and so I had you know, we had
that. And then I took a one better.
I had
a a friend that I had met,
and he was,
he had his own show,
(46:23):
called Wall to Wall Blues because he was
a he's from England.
And that art of taking rocks and making
them fit and doing walls,
you know, without the mortar. Oh, wow.
Yeah. Yeah. And and That is an art.
Yeah. It it really is. And he,
he had a very successful show.
So we combined them and we did a
(46:44):
live thing,
and it was so neat because
of hearing,
I got the interview that the the cast
were over in England
in that area.
And then he interviewed
people like Buddy and Floyd and all the
the these people
and with the accents. Because I love to
hear the English accent
(47:05):
and they love to hear, hey, how y'all
doing? You know? You know what? I love
that. I love every accent. Yeah. It it
just it's kinda what makes the world go
around me when I hear it. I I
I enjoy it all. Yeah. It's kinda sad
that accents around the country are just some
extent dying.
Yeah. I guess television radio is probably doing
that. Yeah. Or But you could still travel
(47:26):
in the South and have people speaking English
too, and you have no idea what they're
saying. Yeah. I know.
Probably my first thing of going to Mississippi
and and the guy goes, oh, oh, yeah.
Put over here. Nobody I go, you mean
over over here? I go, yeah. Over here.
Over here. Take this and put it over
here.
Well, then Jern's claim.
(47:47):
Jern's
Yeah. For you. You were Yeah. Yeah. And
and speaking of Mississippi,
you were kind of,
what am I trying to say? You were
pumped up about some of that music too.
Now that's some old, I would call it.
I had an opportunity to I had an
opportunity to to live and play on Bourbon
Street for a month. Flew down there. Okay.
Didn't make a dime, but I can say
(48:08):
I played in Bourbon Street. Well, right on.
Right on. Yeah. Now and speak to our
listeners,
Bobby Joe and Buddy, I believe, are planning,
hopefully, one day to do a show Yes.
Their own show. And what you already have
a name?
Well, I I I got it. I've got
shows running running up my ears. Okay. Okay.
(48:31):
Working on one is called Blues from the
Beach. Blues from the Beach. How apropos of
our air. And it'd be it'd be a
lot
down at the, the harbor Yeah. And everything.
But we're gonna be,
Buddy and I, we've got,
the, you know, the Grateful Geezers and and
it'll be a lot of playing music and
(48:51):
stuff. And we're gonna have we're gonna have,
the people
like yourself come up here and play.
I wanna I wanna get these these older
people that you say that play real well,
you know. We'll
I'll be, contacting
Yeah. Who we're talking about. Probably next week.
Oh, that'll be so wonderful because that's what
I wanted. And Buddy has, you know, a
(49:12):
lot of,
incredible stories in music, and that's what
that's what our show is gonna be like
is because it's just two,
grateful Geezer musicians
that,
he's got, you know, in a good twenty,
thirty years more on me, but but still,
I've been out there for a lot of
years too. You know? And it's just,
(49:34):
the experiences,
but the the honor of that we're still
able to play.
And that's it's it's just mind boggling. That
is huge. I mean, I've noticed even me
playing I I I don't play like I
used to because my hands get numb and
my fingers Yeah. Oh, yeah. You can I
call Ernie Gaffney, the guitar? Yeah. You get
past that, he goes, oh, it sounds good,
(49:55):
and I I can't feel it, but it
sounds good.
Well, Buddy, I wanna get back to you
real quick. Yes. What was your first inspiration
too? And what instrument did you first play?
Or what what got you into music in
the first place?
Going way back, I see. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I haven't any idea. I'm just gifted.
(50:17):
Okay. And I learn by ear. I
study,
stuttered
until I was about
till I got tired of getting beat up
because I mean
and then I figured it out. Well, I
can play music, and they can't. I don't
need to read it because I can hear
it. Well, that's it. So so you don't
read music. Yeah. I do now. I have
(50:38):
a BA in it, but I never used
it. I just got school for a while.
I I've threatened to teach school up here,
but I don't know if the sheriff's gonna
get get let me. But
I'm a a musicologist,
and I know songs from, like, the fifteen
hundreds
and Darbytown
and all those great things. Y'all ever heard
(50:59):
of those? No. I no. I haven't. 15
hundreds. Okay. I'm gonna do it Before my
time. And Thursday night. We're doing Thursday.
Yeah. Oh, and I heard I heard, though,
maybe he's taken off a couple weeks because
of I of Christmas. I think, but, you
might be right. I thought this coming Thursday
that we're gonna do the last open mic.
But we'll we'll Oh, maybe that's it. That's
(51:20):
it. But we yeah. I was gonna premiere
my it's a little blue. It's Irish, as
you know.
Uh-huh. And it's called Direby Town in Powder
Billy Goat.
Okay. You can kind of put it together
by there. And Right on. A Catholic priest
will have to bless you
and your family before
(51:40):
it is allowed to be played.
And but it's
it's hysterical.
And we had him singing that the other
night,
and I forgot the words.
But it's part of the show. It happens.
And I wasn't even drinking.
Yeah.
Well, That's really sad. Yeah. Well, that's really
sad.
(52:03):
Well, we are getting down. We got about
seven minutes left. But I think we could
take about three or four of those minutes
Okay. And and hear about your,
military experience. Yeah. K. Wait. Yeah. Yeah. We
we do have four veterans here at the
Mike's. Right. We were really running on that
earlier because When when I when I see
somebody wearing
(52:23):
a a a hat or a shirt or
something, they say they're a Vietnam veteran. I
always say, well, where were you? Because I
was there too, maybe. Right. And I got
a very very surprised Thank you for your
service, brother. Very surprising
answer from you. Could you tell me what
it was? Well, as
I was at Vietnam, but I was on
a submarine. And our submarine was within
(52:46):
the 12 mile radius. I saw
the peninsula,
the the bush.
I saw it through a periscope.
And,
and we were we were there. And,
unfortunately,
during that Vietnam, you know, they did that
Agent Orange
Yeah. And the and the flyers. And they'd
(53:06):
come around, and when they were thought they
were just about finished with enough of the
Agent Orange and the the tanks, they would
just
go fly out there and just drop them
and and the ocean. Well, a submarine
takes the ocean water Yeah. And makes it
drinkable. We have a distilling
machine deal like this. But it doesn't know
anything. But it doesn't know anything about that
(53:28):
little Agent Orange. So so we're all we're
called Blue Water Veterans
of the Agent Orange, and that's why I
have a little stuff on my face and
stuff that I've had it that you can't
it just doesn't go away
and stuff.
And but our deal was that
we went through there, and and then that's
(53:48):
when I said our our,
orders were to go and film
or take pictures of this
this, submarine
that was, I call it old pig boat.
It was an old diesel boat because
we were so far ahead of the of,
Russia and everything,
(54:08):
And they were firing a rocket off of
a topside. So it's just like a
boat,
bow in the water and then fire off
the rocket. Where we I was trained in
the FBM that had the the 16
missiles
that were underwater and shoot and take off
and it would split warheads and they would
it could take destroy two cities
(54:31):
on one
on one,
rocket. One rocket. Yeah. And so
our mission was to to take pictures of
this. So they had about a 100
of,
ships going around in a in a kind
of a oval thing miles away, but it
was
the ships protecting us. Well, they knew we
(54:52):
were there and we came through like in
a movie.
This was
the stern of this one and here's the
bow of the other one and we step
in there and we got in there and
took pictures and
we raised the periscope and we could see,
literally see the Russian
sailors on the on these,
(55:12):
you know, on these boats. These You definitely
have a unique experience. I have a friend
who was a translator,
and his job or one of his jobs
was to fly
over the the b 50 twos that were,
bombing North Korea. Yeah. And he could hear
the the Vietnamese reporting about the damage. And
he'd say, well, they got got this on
the west end of the, the airstrip, and
(55:34):
I got that over there. But they didn't
get the munitions thing at at when
and they described where that was. Well, of
course, then Then Then they got to get
it because they just thank you. Thank you,
brother. Thank
you. But that was you know? And then
there as I say, when
when after we finished,
we were leaving and we're gonna go back
out the same way and that's when they
(55:56):
broke ranks because they knew where we were
and they tried to ram us. They wanted
to they ram us and and then either
sink us or make
us come topside and and, you know, be
an international instrument.
Fortunately,
when they,
the guy that was on the office of
the deck, you know, he go, okay, up
(56:16):
scope.
Dive, dive, dive, like, in a movie and
bam, it's not but we just we dump
everything because it can take the the big
tanks on the side can just
grabs the water so it just like a
lead. No. It still wasn't
quick enough, and it and it,
it hit the number two scope they were
they were looking through
(56:37):
and bent it, but didn't break it off.
And they chased us for about a week
and a half.
And
and we could we rack back and forth,
and they,
we're doing death charges because they were upset.
They they couldn't get close to us,
but they could still do this death charges.
And I can remember listening to the death
charges and stuff.
(56:58):
Yeah. And then finally they finally after we
can have they either ran out of money
or or or or they got orders, you
know, you're not gonna catch these guys, so
just
come on back.
And
but that and
the the Duffy for me I mean, that
was an experience
because I remember
I was on the I was on the
(57:18):
planes
when that happened,
and we had to dive real quick. And
the planes were the great big planes on
the sail that Yeah. Like this.
But then they're going underwater for sixty two
days,
and I kinda, like, had a nervous breakdown
because it was just
One day underwater would do it for me.
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Well, listen. We are running out of time.
Yes. And, so we've covered a lot of
ground here today from,
poisonous snakes, a lot of music. Green snakes.
A lot of music. Green.
Green snakes. Yeah.
And,
war experiences. Yes. Yeah. And, again, yeah. Well,
it's nice to have we got two navy
people here, one air force and army. So
(58:02):
Yeah.
Veterans. We all Thank you. Thank you for
your service. Oh, well, thank you. You got
everybody here. Thank me. I got drafted. They
dragged me on three MPs to take me
out of my bedroom,
drag me off, and say, you're in the
army now, boy. One sort of veteran. No.
I'd say that. Good luck to you. Alright,
y'all. Yeah. We are out of time. Thank
you, guys. Alright. Thank you. It was a
real pleasure. Loved having you guys. What a
(58:23):
great show, fun show. And the Grateful Geezers,
we can't wait.
I'm gonna make the next appearance. We'll be
there Thursday.
Uh-huh. That's Friday night. Run by the, brewery.
Yes. GEICO Brewery. Yeah. Alright, y'all.
Thank you. You're listening again. And remember, KCIWLP
100.7
(58:44):
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Oregon. Beautiful Brookings.
Yes, y'all. Thank you guys.
Well, hello again, KCIW
listeners, and welcome to Curry Cafe.
I'm volunteer Rick McNamer. Every Sunday from three
to four, your host, Ray Gary, KCIW's
own famous radio personality,
and I put together a panel of guests
to discuss various topics of interest that impact
our wonderful community.
(00:25):
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Okay. Now here's Ray to tell us about
today's show. Well, today, we
have some guests that are gonna put every
(00:46):
other guest we've ever had to shame. We
have two,
actually famous people
who may actually even be interesting, unlike our
usual guest. But
so I'm gonna go now
around the table clockwise, and we'll have them
introduce themselves.
Let's tell you a little bit about themselves
and maybe sell you some merch if they
(01:07):
have any. I don't.
Hi, y'all. Bobby Joe Holman here.
My wife and I, Janet, have
been in the area here probably close to
a month now. We came up, and it's
such wonderful,
wonderful experience to to be here and obviously
be a part of the, station, and we
(01:28):
thank you all for inviting us on,
my partner. Welcome.
Oh, well, there yeah. I'm I'm Buddy Wright,
and I forgot what it oh, yes.
That'll be it for me.
Okay. Like I said, we're gonna have some
really interesting guests today. They'll have some
yeah.
(01:48):
That's perfect. Yes. I, normally go under the
pseudonym of the reverend b Wright,
And, of course, I save everybody that I
can.
Those that I can't, it's
pretty well a lost cause. So I think
Did did you bring some extra
magic
powder or something today? Are you trying to
(02:10):
Well, yeah. Save some of the people around
here. I know what they're up to. It
looks like I'm in the right place. Yes.
They are. At this stage. There's a saving
need to station it.
Thank you very much. Glad to be here.
Well, buddy, how so how long have you
been here in the Bronx area? Only eight
years.
Oh, same about oh, well, little a year
more than me, but okay. Yeah. And I've
(02:30):
been retarded up here, and, we came here
from,
where was What? Nevada.
That's my manager. Alright. Alright. He's really cute,
but look out. Yes. Left hook.
Oh, okay.
We won't annoy her. Yeah.
Yeah. We have one of those here. Yeah.
And being up here, I have that one
(02:51):
saying that being from Texas, Texas,
green in my life.
This is a green area, is it?
Yeah. I'm used to sand.
(03:13):
So the other thing, there's not a rattlesnake
under every tree here too. No. But I
ragged that up. We got a a rattlesnake
at our house,
and it was green.
And
it's a unique one. Yeah. You had a
rattlesnake here? It was real rattlesnake.
Wild outside or Yeah. Outside, it was green.
You piqued Ray's interest. It's a snake.
(03:35):
Yeah. Yeah. I understood. Look into that because
I've
I I've lived here for a while now,
and I know one of the
things I find most disappointing is there are
no venomous snakes here,
and it just makes walking in the woods
boring. You don't have you don't have to
listen for every round.
Langhard and I are good friends, and both
of us have the same problem. And we've
(03:56):
been threatening
to go inland a little bit because you
don't have to go very far, and there
are rattlesnakes. And we bring back a couple
of gravid females and make this place a
little more interesting to live in.
Okay. I'll save you if I can, but
for that one, it's gonna be tough. I'd
like to see that green rattlesnake. Yeah.
And and were
(04:18):
you, imbibing in something when you saw No.
No. Okay.
I'm I'm,
I wear a bracelet that says I can't
smoke.
A bracelet keeps you from smoking? Yeah. Well,
according to the marshal.
Anyway,
she saw it. I saw it and it
(04:38):
ran up to the house
and it it did that little rattle. It
was a young fat one because of the
the moles out here they ate. Yeah.
Plenty of those here. I know that. Yeah.
And we couldn't figure it out. A green,
and it's got
rattling.
And we had a couple of contractor guys
working on the house rehabbing it for us.
(05:01):
They came up and they went,
that's a grain rattlesnake.
Never and one guy
crapshared it and took it home.
But I have one quick question back to,
Buddy. What part of Nevada were you from?
Where were you living at? Las Vegas. Las
Vegas. Carson City, Reno. Oh, all over the
(05:22):
place. I was I was a musican.
And yeah. And it was a great, great
place for music. At the time, it's not
so much. Okay. Well, speaking of music, that's
kind of why we're all here. Uh-huh.
Mister Bobby Joe, who we just met just
a few weeks ago Yes, sir. Plays one
heck of a harmonica along with other instruments.
(05:44):
And and now, Buddy, I haven't heard yet.
I know you guys play together. Yeah. Buddy,
what you play stand up bass and other
instruments? I'm a multiple
instrumental. Alright. I play all kinds of percussion,
string bass,
electric bass,
and, guicas. And you haven't heard of those?
I have not. No. Brazil. It's,
(06:06):
they're made out of a human skull, and
the leather is and they got a little
bamboo stick that sticks up to the like
a drum. Yeah. And then you have a
a wet,
kerchief,
and you rub it on the stick.
(06:27):
You're right. I haven't heard that instantly. Yeah.
It's pretty pretty tricky.
Alright.
Well, so so Bobby Joe and I was
pretty
you sent me the you gave me the
CD. Yeah. I wasn't able to have I
don't have a player, but I did pull
it up. So your,
album, the one you have more albums than
that. No. Actually, that's Is this the one?
(06:47):
Just the one. Yeah. That was and that
was
because of my wife
getting on me that I should have something.
I've played on movies. I've played on a
lot of, you know, some hit records and
stuff like that and and and jingles that
played all over the country. Oh, wow.
But, she just find you've gotta have something
with you on it. So that was
(07:10):
that was a
a a mixture of all these different performances
and Well, let me tell you, I listened
to it this morning via YouTube and I
was blown away. Oh, thank you. Blown away.
Amen, Jeff. And yeah. And,
Buddy, the one that you
I didn't listen to every song, but you
introduced one like it was a revival meeting
(07:31):
and the voice was crowded. It was just
wonderful. Thank you. It was a concert that
we did, and that was Buddy playing, and
and we had the drummer. He's since passed
away, our good friend.
Both Buddy and I is, was Floyd Snead,
the original drummer of Three Dog Night. Okay.
And then we then that's one of the
best bands I've ever ever had the opportunity
(07:51):
to be a part of. And I had
this, old Joe Lechu,
the lead guitar player, and then we had
a a a Hammond b three guy got
that was really good. And then we had
Oostogie,
one of the things in the mountains when
guys will come out there and they're they're
getting away from child support or whatever, they
don't they never use their name. And so
(08:13):
his
his name's Stogie, and he but he was
a killer,
sax player. Buddy brought him in. Okay. And,
and so I had it was at that
time, it was a six piece Yeah. With
Stogie. And,
we just tore it up. We did a
a Well, like I said,
the out the music I heard was fantastic.
(08:34):
And by the way, y'all, you can text
in, remember, at (541)
661-4098.
And the name of the CD album, did
were there albums out there too? Yeah. I
guess well, no. It's just that CD. Okay.
Yeah. The albums are way back. Yeah. In
old time. They don't have many. Yeah. Oh,
no. They're doing them again. Yeah. They're they're
bringing they brought back. True audio file. You
(08:55):
have to listen to vinyl. Oh, okay. Cool.
Listen to that Boy. Crisp sound. Okay. That's
right. But the, the CD is titled Heart
to Harp, Heart like your heart. Yes. Harp
like the h a r p, the harmonica.
Yeah. And, so, yeah, well, go ahead and
tell us a little more about Well, that
was yeah. That was How that got pretty
good. Really, really,
(09:16):
really fun.
I had archived I had performances,
especially the one with
with Buddy on it and Floyd, and
and I had had that archive. The guy,
recorded it for us.
And then other performances that I had, and
then I have some original music on it
(09:38):
that I had a a Korg
sequencer.
And and it was so neat because you
could just with the key, oh, you're in
the key of,
d, and you go d, and it's and
it's playing the bass. It had the drums
in it all sequenced. And then, okay, I
wanna change it, and I wanna go to
the g chord. It just flawless. It would
(09:59):
go right in. It's like cats playing.
And you could slow it up and speed
it up, you know, whatever you wanted and
get put some feeling into it. And so
I just wrote these songs some of these
songs, and
and then I put that on the CD
its itself. And so Okay. Some of those
songs are original with just me, and I
(10:20):
made a a little attempt to play in
some lead guitar on it and stuff. I'm
not much of a guitarist,
but but, you know,
why not? Well, if if you were playing
guitar in that CD, you are, but whoever
it was, that was a lot of great
stuff. Mhmm. So so how did you and
Buddy originally
get together? Hooked up gosh, Buddy. What what
(10:41):
was it? We were playing in the House
Of Ill Repute down there in Texas. No.
No. In What was Nevada. Yeah. Nevada. That's
I've been so many places
in my life and time.
Oh.
And,
it just was a natural fit
and
he and he plays,
(11:04):
that Delta
blues guitar and it brings back
memories
of all of that
dark
from Mississippi all the way oh, yeah. Yeah.
I said, I gotta meet that guy.
Well, that's awesome. Yeah. And then about how
how long ago was that? Oh, yeah. That's
(11:24):
been twenty years ago. Oh, yeah. We were
yeah. We were just recently out of prison
there. And with That's another show. Yeah. That
was another one. How that all happened? Well,
we'll leave it. As I know, Bob and
Joe, we've talked too that you
you you kind of go from different
genres. I Yeah. Say that. I I always
(11:45):
say that I think of Alex Trebek. That's
where I come up. But,
the blues is probably the main,
main inspiration. That was always been the real
hook for me. And country blues is what
you Well, now I I'm into a lot
of country blues, and and I love to
tell a story because
my
mom,
(12:06):
she would say, oh, you have such a
beautiful voice. You used to sing country. And
I go, oh, man. I don't wanna sing
stinking country. I wanna I wanna be a
blues guy with the sunglasses and be all
cool and everything.
And now I enjoy that country
the country tunes with the the with the
blues feeling You bet. So much, and I'm
able to do it play enough on the
(12:27):
guitar. I'm not much of a guitarist, but,
and so she's she's up in up in
the sky, but she's, like, I'm sure just
laughing,
say mom always knows. You know, coming from
the Beatles generation,
yeah,
When, like, when they hit and I I
was in a garage band, yada yada yada.
And, of course, country I had at the
(12:47):
time. Oh, no. No. No. I can't like
country. But the first music I remember
is my dad. I was probably three, four,
five playing
Johnny Cash Yeah. And,
so I'm losing everybody. Well, Marty Robbins. Marty
oh my god. Marty Robbins, big time.
And the I think we talked about the
lady, and I can't remember her name, passed
(13:09):
away. Well, you're talking about,
Why is this leaving me? Well, we're we're
seeing her decline for a year. Anyway, all
that old stuff that I remember, and I've
fallen in love with all that stuff again.
Well, you you we start to as we
get older, I think, and and for me,
I started realizing just
(13:29):
really how good those cats were. Yes. I
mean, way, way, way good.
And and Another mind blowing experience for me
was I went in I was probably in
my twenties. Yeah. I saw Willie Nelson, Emmylou
Harris Yeah. And Merle Haggard on stage together.
Now I was I think of what was
that, Okie from Muskogee and oh. Yeah. I
(13:50):
I wish Merle wasn't even there.
But
after that show, I fell in love with
that guy. He was talented, man. Oh, man.
Oh, man. Big old banjo guitar. And then
together, those voices
It was magic. Boy, he talked about Merle
Heikkin was Yes. Yes. Well, that was it.
I saw him by mistake one time. I
went to see the the Rolling Stones, and
believe it or not, he was the opening
(14:12):
act. Wow. For the Stones? Wow. Yeah. Oh,
how cool was that? I thought, well, okay.
I've heard him. He's gonna be okay. But
I'm it was just tedious for me to
sit and listen to him do about Well,
I heard him do forty minutes or an
hour. I don't know. Well, yeah. I mean,
you were waiting for the Stones.
And you were stoned. We lived in Little
Rock at the time.
And and
(14:32):
we we, you know, the usher brings you
your seats and all that. And he's standing
talking to another Little Rock friend evidently and,
on the cell phone saying, yeah, I'm over
here at the stadium.
Merle Haggard
is playing here today. He said, oh oh,
and and the Rolling Stones are gonna be
here too.
(14:52):
Yeah. This
my my thing with Merle Haggard, I wished
he would have never done Ogi from Muskogee.
Gotcha. I just because It's like a signature
that he didn't really get. You know, and
I just you know, but he made a
big hit and that really gave him his
start. But, man, when I saw him on
The Waltons
and he did the song, and now I'm
doing,
(15:13):
I can't even remember the name of the
song. Don't,
be my baby
something my
anyhow, he
played this kind of
troubadour
guy
that's rolling through town,
and they had their little bar, and they
talked to him, and they kept him playing.
And he did this song,
Oh, Call Me Darling. Yeah. You call me
(15:35):
darling.
And he just won me then
because the cat could really, really sing Yeah.
And soulful and write these tunes, but it
was just I just had a hard time
like Ray did with our name was the
Oakey from Muskogee. I just could not
get behind that, you know. In Vietnam on
(15:56):
the radio, we had the country western hour.
And good part of my platoon was from
New York and other places.
And the Okies would all sit around the
radio, and they that song got played every
time. But I heard there's two stories about
that that I heard. One, I heard him
interviewed years ago
where he said that was meant to be
a
(16:17):
Sarcast? Sarcastic song. He said, yeah. He said
he said, we smoke more dope than any
any band from from, England,
LA.
And he said, but they were riding down
their on on their way to a a
gig one time, and they saw this Welcome
to Muskogee or something. And they they made
up that song as they were riding along.
(16:37):
And then,
two
years after that, I heard him say, yeah.
We had to keep up the, the old
good USA. In in other words,
completely the opposite of what he had said
before. Well, it worked at the time. Yeah.
It did. That's for sure. Not that I
don't believe anything entertainers say anyway.
It's it's all publicity.
(16:58):
Everything's a publicity stuff except when they die.
I said, well, okay. That's not a publicity
stuff.
Well, I don't know if okay. But I
think,
like I just said,
Emmylou Harris for a while. Oh, I I
love her. This golden voice, but it's not
only publicity. It's what they love to do.
(17:18):
Right. And they're they're Yes. Buddy have to
have that, you know. It's,
it's just,
the the gift, you know, and and,
I feel so honored and obviously playing music
with Buddy and
and people at that level, at that stature
of
of I just get to do this. And
(17:41):
it's and it's such a it's it's just
such an honor. It's it's so exciting because,
man,
I, I've always been a kind of a
a renegade
bohemian guy that I was always a black
sheep of the family because they were all
straight they had jobs. Well, I mean, I
worked jobs, but now I always just wanted
to play music. Yeah.
(18:02):
And they go, you gotta be out of
your mind. You're stupid. You know? Yeah. We
we go to open mic that you've been
through a couple of things every Thursday night.
There's people show up there that some of
them are professionals. They play Yeah. In bars
and stuff around too, but almost all of
them could if they wanted to. But they
come up there every Thursday night and put
a couple of hours in just because they
like playing the music. Right. As pure fun.
(18:25):
Yes. It is. And, yeah, that Chetco brewery
open mic night, I've been I unfortunately have
missed
Yeah. The three times we've been there. I
know. Terrible. Terrible. Are you coming back?
Yeah. We probably will, buddy. Next Thursday, we'll
be back. Yeah. We you're probably in the
house when you came. Yeah. You're really one
of the Oh. The stars of the night.
(18:46):
Well,
yeah, how about me blowing the harp out?
The song I was doing this deal deal,
and then this song I've been only playing
this harp for, like, ten years and nurturing
around and it play all gay. Great. And,
boy, the that night,
Thursday night, I'm playing and doing my little
lick things and it goes
and it just stopped.
(19:07):
Not one note, the whole bloody scale and
it went.
So I couldn't play. I'm going,
and it wouldn't it wouldn't play. It would
I'll be darn. So Publicity
stunt. Yeah. That's
it. No. I'd I'd messed up or I'd
forgot the song now. For those of you
listening that don't know what we're talking about,
(19:28):
every Thursday night at the
Chetco Brewery. Chetco Brewery,
they're in the back. They they have an
open night. Open mic.
And,
lots of people come every week,
get up and sing two or three songs.
And open mic sounds like I was telling
somebody that one time, and they said, oh,
like a karaoke. I said, no. It's not
(19:49):
karaoke. I said, these are real people who
can really play. And everybody that plays there
is at least good.
And they go from good to really, really
good. There's some really good performers there.
They'll go up there and buy yourself a
beer, sit
And even though I haven't been there yet,
and then slap myself, but I know that
both of you guys were very well received.
(20:10):
Oh, really? Thank you. It's
it's been such a it's
I I've just been blown away,
like, you're you guys are saying of how
this area
has just really opened arms to my wife
and I, you know. And of course, our
Dallas
are really great.
Our dear friends, you know, have helped us
(20:30):
so much because we got here on a
I'm surprised we weren't hitchhiking and dragging that
trailer along with it with the problems. Yeah.
You had a little rough
But we made it. We made it. And
so,
our dear friends, they helped us and let
us use a vehicle until I was able
to get a vehicle. And, oh, man, it's
been But it's all good because one, maybe,
(20:52):
a little thing has been a little testy,
but then the good Lord, the angels come
out and everything. I've met this this journey.
I have met
so many
people,
angels that just
helped me, and they I didn't know them
from Adam, you know? Yeah.
Prime example right here.
(21:15):
Oh, yes. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. Right here.
That of just letting you guys
Oh, and that that's the other thing that
about that open mic. Everybody all the entertainers
help each other. And Correct. God help you
if you criticize,
like, the the previous guy
to one of the other entertainers. Yeah. They
will defend him Yeah. For sure. To the
(21:36):
end regardless how bad he was. Yeah. Well,
but that's that's the thing. It's it's the
mindset and it's it's the the honor to
be able to go and do that. And
so, yeah, everybody makes mistakes. So when there's
a a cadre of people living there almost
every week.
And after they're a while, you get to
know some of those and you get to
(21:57):
hear some of the rumors.
Who's doing who's who's dating, who who's cheating
on who, and Pretty soon, we'll get to
hear a rumor about you guys.
Exactly. Who started drinking again, all that kind
of stuff. Hey. We have a we have
a text. Going there. We have a text,
Ray, so hold on now. Oh, okay. How
long has it been? But we do have
a text at our text line, (541)
661-4098.
(22:19):
Question for you all. Y'all say this. Yeah.
How long have you had the name Grateful
Geezer,
Which I think is a dynamite.
Eighty four years. Yeah.
Little longer than I am. No. No.
The the lovely the lovely Margo, she's the
one that came up with what about two
(22:39):
or three weeks ago?
The Grateful Geezers. Okay. Well, it works. Yeah.
Right
on. And, you know, back to this area,
we took the
and Buddy and I have been here about
this. I've been here a little over seven.
You've been Yeah. Eight.
And you and Janet have a month. Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a welcoming area. I knew that when
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I first came up. I came up from
the Sacramento area.
And, I mean, it is a very welcoming
Oh, it's just my
eye. I've been Smith River the other side,
but this whole area.
And not only that, but we have the
natural beauty.
Maybe that's part of it, but there's a
lot of natural Thank you very much.
Well, I I was referring to the way
Buddy looked today.
(23:22):
A natural beauty. Well, that's it. That's it.
You know, we,
my wife and I, we
try to walk
the that beach area there,
at least twice a day. Yep. And
every time we walk, we meet somebody else.
We had a talk with Victoria.
And this gal, she had her neat little
(23:43):
dog,
and she had, this piece of driftwood that
she was so proud. She was gonna take
it home, and her and her boyfriend was
going to cut the slim part off, and
it was she was gonna do something in
her house, and it was gonna be like
this. And we talked for about twenty minutes
or so, and she we went through all
her her life and our life. I mustn't
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have had much of her life as she
was able to tell you in twenty minutes.
Well, pit little parts of it. You know,
there's there's that strip there, the the paved
strip and the Yes.
I call that
the mall for seniors.
You go there and meet meet all your
friends and stuff or meet new people. Have
a dog, and you will have new people
(24:25):
all over. All the time. I I I
used to have a dog, and I thought,
well, people are just being friendly, but
and I thought, but they're also being nosy.
I just wanna walk my dog. I don't
wanna tell you all about the dog. I
don't care that my dog smells your dog.
But then yeah. They're definitely check magnets. So
Well, that's no. I was gonna say that.
(24:46):
I was here
twenty years ago,
and I was out at, a Gold Beach,
and they're working at the Turtle Rock
RV Park. Oh, wow. Okay. And so you
had days off. And I had my dog,
Jack.
He was a really neat border collie dog.
And I'd go
when I was because I was single at
the time, and I
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we we would go down to the, the,
harbor area there.
And it was
the babe just
oh, what a nice little dog. And it
well, he was pretty good sized dog, though.
And I go, thank you, Jack, baby. You
know? Of course, it's not that I ever
became of it, but still, it was neat
to have a a woman talk to you.
(25:28):
They were interested in a dog. They could've
carried him, not me, man. I have a
friend that took it a step further. He
brought two box turtles with him. And they're
walking I mean, everybody had to say something.
Yeah. They could pick or choose who we
wanted to talk. They did very well with
them, by the way.
And that is this is a dog community
Yeah. And that which I love now. I
I lost my little girl over a year
(25:50):
ago,
but it what's funny now is
people will see me,
like, they don't remember my name Yeah. But
they'll remember my dog, Susie. Yeah. Sure.
Where where Susie is?
But that's okay. But but also, you're right.
Just walking the beaches, meet people. And I've
met a lot of people that way. We
end up Oh, they just let me have
(26:11):
coffee or let's come on. Yeah. It's it's
One guy yesterday,
we're walking it and some big old big
old burly guy and his gal and they
were sitting on the rock part, the the
stone thing there.
And he goes,
oh, what a beautiful day. And they were
like, yeah. And he goes, I've got some
stuff in my head, some things, issues I
(26:33):
gotta deal with, but I how and they're
pushed way back, and then I says, everybody's
got issues, brother. You know? But how can
you
be mean to somebody when you're having that
ocean?
You just solve it. Yes. You can. And
that's one that needs saving. Yep. That's correct.
And I can't remember my phone number.
(26:54):
Man. Yeah. No. No. No. That that's very
true here. And it it's we've talked about
this. Yeah. Bobby Joe and I had breakfast
the other day. Wonderful time. Yeah. And, yeah,
it's
however you wanna deal with it out there,
and, it's it's meditation.
Oh, yeah? No. That's a good word, Ben.
Look at that ocean, and and then we
talk we have an additional fun stuff now
(27:15):
because it is starting to be whale whale
migration, which is a big thing for me,
big thing. Sure. And you saw one the
other day. Yeah. My wife and I, she
goes, oh, there's a whale out there. Oh,
no.
There we had that guy. We walked by
the guy. He goes, oh, there's whales out
there. We're going, oh, really? Well, we're looking
around. Right. And then she saw it. And
boy, he come out and
(27:36):
sprouted and everything. And I've never seen just
one just one guy. And, of course, then
we
followed him, and he hover around. And I
was it was kinda like going deer hunting
and putting horns on deers because I oh,
there he is. No. No. That's a rock.
You know? Right. Right. Then there's stuff I
know. Yeah. It is easy to get fooled.
Well,
because you wanna see it. So, yeah, you
(27:57):
know?
But we did see it. There was he
was he was traveling.
And,
and who was explaining that? Was was it
you telling me about it? It's the migration.
Oh, there's a big migration happening. Now now
that time.
Person up at Harris Beach? What's that? There's
a, like, a guide or somebody there? No.
There will be, there will be a
(28:19):
volunteer from I think they're up at a
Depot Bay or we're gonna go into whale
watching here real quick, but I gotta
the volunteers will be at Harris Beach, I
think, starting December 27, and they do it
for about a week,
to, yeah, help explain to everybody. And I've
been to Harris Beach, and I've
at this time of year, you can see
a lot of whale activity. It's wonderful. Again,
just another little aspect of this great place
(28:42):
that we live. Yeah. Well, they they were,
Marco and Buddy, they they live on the
Checo River.
And, man, that's that's beautiful. And they're Yes.
Placing Yes. Everything. Salmon
like this.
Oh, right.
I will.
For those of you on the radio and
not
didn't find out how big those salmon were.
(29:03):
Yeah. He had his arm put up his
arm put up.
So, hey, it's half god. We're halfway through.
We'll get back to the music here real
quick, but I just wanna alert everybody again
to our text line,
(541)
661-4098.
And you're listening
to KCIW
LP
one hundred point seven FM in beautiful Brookings.
(29:25):
So, Bobby Joe, I was reading the press
kit. Oh, yeah.
Fantastic stuff. But so you came. You had
a big thing in South Dakota.
Yeah. And you have a love for that
place, and I can feel that from Yeah.
What you talked about. But I kind of
equate it to, you say there's like a
a special type of music there. It almost
(29:46):
sounded like it made me think of the,
like, the Apalachian.
Apalachian. Apalachian.
Yeah. Thank you. And I think and you
mentioned the, the Carter
family Right. Which I remember. That's old stuff,
but it's beautiful stuff, man. Well, it was
what's
that's what
touched me and and being there at the
(30:07):
Black Hills
The Black Hills is it's has its own
world.
And, you know I've never been there, but
yeah. Oh, man. It's it's some it it
it's like the Appalachian, but only I think
it's got more because that's where you've got,
you've got dead wood and you've got,
the custer of him coming up and saying
(30:27):
that's, you know, there's gold in them there,
hills. And it was talking about Dead Wood
and and,
of course, of all the folklore of,
a wild bill being shot and all that
thing right there in Deadwood. A lot of
people. But but the but the music and,
the music is just incredible. And there's a
(30:47):
lot it's like
here,
there's these all these wonderful,
talented
people Yes. That writers and and,
artists and,
songsters, all this stuff. And yet, they're they're
like us. It's, you know, I say there
may be,
you know, snow on the rooftop, but there's
(31:08):
still fire in the kitchen, you know, because
you have to. You know? And,
but there's I was trying to bring those
people
out,
and that's what we'll be doing, with Buddy
and I. We'll we'll be,
you know, I've I can't wait to play
with this this,
this fiddle player that you're telling.
Somebody, Ray, was somebody was telling me about
(31:30):
this older lady. She's in her nineties. Oh,
Shirley Hyatt. Shirley Hyatt. Yes. My god. I'm
gonna have
she's wonderful. She does, two shows here.
And she's Hi. Fan of hair shit. Oh,
yeah. And see She's classically trained. She takes
the violin And still old music for that
man. Really? Very, very seriously. It still exists?
(31:50):
And if you if you have a flat
note or
Yeah. She'll let you know about it.
And how I I I think she already
I think she's probably 92,
might guess. I put And just as
wonderful,
sharpened spry as it is. Yes. You you
will be warned about her sharp tongue.
(32:11):
You That's not dulled, even a little bit.
Yeah. Well, that's but that's it. That's the
way it should be, you know, that,
or you got a text here. Okay. Yeah.
I I didn't mean it. No. No. No.
But we do have a text, and we
haven't gotten any in a while, so I'm
excited.
Thank you, texters.
And this texter says, the name of my
band was the Northbank Blues Band,
(32:32):
and I enjoy creating names looking for a
band. At open mic this week, two people
thought Grateful Geezers is a great name, and
two people had problems with geezers.
Probably geezer. Well, no. He he was at
he was at Well, and Ray yeah. My
only problem with it is it's just such
an overused word. Every motor home that you're
(32:54):
going down,
shoegis, who's going south?
Well, Ray, you're wrong.
I still think it was an overused word,
but I haven't been able to come up
with a fix.
Anyway, I should criticize something I can't fix.
Texter finishes by saying, I would prefer the
Grateful
Texture, but I believe Grateful Geezers is gonna
(33:15):
stay. But there you go. Thank you, really,
for taking care of you. You say that,
but there's
a half hour left to the show. We'll
get more suggestions.
Possibly.
Possibly.
So, Reverend, it's it is Sunday, and I
I think that, there's probably some of us
out there
feeling a little guilty about something we may
have done
over the past
(33:37):
period of time since we've been to church?
Do you do you do you think the
spirit has moved you to the point where
you could do some preaching?
Yes. Yeah.
It never leaves.
It it's it's forever,
so you don't have to worry about your
little soul. There you go.
It will find you. He wants you
to That was a truly ins inspiration. Yes,
(33:59):
I love it.
You're full of this race, isn't it, Marty?
Okay. I I wanna go back real quick,
Bobby Joe. You were saying,
about your gray on top or whatever. Yeah.
Yeah. I reading your the press kit, I
love that you said it the South Dakota
experience, if you will Yeah. Gave you,
(34:20):
a boost.
I have to put it in quote, at
your age.
Some people don't like to say it, but
in other words, it did. It gave you,
like, a
second wind, if you will Yeah. For music.
Well, you get it's really, you know, you
could talk to anybody that's been in it
for a long, long time. You have your,
you know, it's all super super, then then
(34:42):
it kinda fades.
And
and then to get re
Reacquainted?
Yes. Well,
inspired
is I There you go. Word. Yeah.
And
that was what happened
going to
to, the Black Hills and to South Dakota
is when I found there's a
(35:03):
I
I get I I'm kinda like Ray. I
get kinda tired of this and that because
of the Appalachian
Mountains, you know, so many so many stories
and wonderful stories about how all these people
come over from Europe,
different genres and everything, but they brought their
music and in the Appalachian, everybody's broke and
(35:23):
everything, but it's all about music. The blues.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The it's all about the
music and everything, and they make all these
wonderful movies about it. Yes, sir. But the
but the Black Hills,
there was inner soul, man. And then there
is because you have the Lakota Indians,
and you have,
you have gold
(35:44):
instead of
instead of coal. I mean, there's a little
coal, but it was gold. And
just like when,
Buddy and Margo there in
Virginia City, it was silver. They had gold,
but then they had but it was big
time silver. I mean, big time. You know?
Yeah. I I can remember doing a show
there and and, about that they had, like,
(36:05):
750
miles
of tunnels
there in in Virginia City to go straight
down and then go like this because they'd
follow the veins.
Mhmm. And,
so getting back to the Black Hills thing,
it's just
and,
it found out about there's a a guy
(36:25):
named Badger Clark.
Now when I was a kid and I
was going to well, when I went to
a junior
college,
I learned about
Henry David Thoreau.
Okay. And
him being a naturalist and living like that.
Well, this cat,
(36:47):
Badger Clark,
he went out in the Black Hills. He
goes out there and he builds them a
cabin with no running water, no electricity,
and he lived there for forty five years.
And people would come to me. He was
a he was a poet
and a naturalist, and he'd tell his stories,
and
(37:07):
and
and song he writes songs. And one of
the songs that,
I do,
is,
that he had written.
And so there was this culture.
There's a a lot of just big talent
that,
you know, and so Well, again, and that
was unknown to me. I mean, when you
when I read about that stuff, it it
(37:29):
sounds like a wonderful I've never been there.
Wonderful, beautiful area like we're
Well, I hear about that. Mountains,
like you said. Yeah.
But a lot of inspirational
music that you Yeah. And you just had
to you just had to tap into
to that that vein, like Yeah. Like what
we have been very fortunate and you wonderful
(37:50):
people have given us the opportunity to to
tap back into it because there is so
much. You riddle off this gal's name. And,
we
bought a car over here at Bernie's.
Bernie Bishop? Bernie Bishop. Yep. And the gal
that,
helped,
was sales gal, her name is Megan.
She was saying about
(38:11):
her grandpa is,
an old time
Appalachian player, but he could play, you know,
mandolin, banjo,
fiddle, and all this stuff. Right. And I
said, man, I said and the cat's I'm
sure in his nineties.
And I said, so the the Grateful Geese
is working there where we got these old
(38:32):
you know, there's there's snow on the rooftop,
but there's still fire in the kitchen. You
betcha. And and
and it's given
the the spirit comes out of these people,
I mean, all of the people that I
meet is I love being here because it's
it's our it's our age.
But was Yeah. There's a lot of grateful
geezers here. Yes. They were gonna say it
(38:54):
and keep saying it.
Was a lot of that fiddling that was
inspired by Irish immigrants that were coming? Yes.
Yeah. Because the Athabascan Indians up along the
Yukon River, they have a lot of fiddlers,
and it's all See, there there you go.
See, I I just love stuff that where
did that stuff come from? Yeah. It was
these these different,
(39:15):
people. Right. And, you know, and,
and that that's why the music now and
I mentioned about that, about the Carter, the
old man Carter.
He was so smart because
he'd figured out, wow, these songs. So he'd
go and he'd record these songs, and then
he'd publish those songs.
(39:35):
See? This was
a husband from
from Mabelle Yeah. Carter? Yeah. No. Mabelle Carter
was, I think, the the sister.
I thought May Maybelle was the one that
could Mother Maybelle. Yeah. We could play the
guitar. She was really good at the certain
I call her the rats. Singer
woman Okay. Was married to,
(39:58):
I think, it's John or whatever. Oh, okay.
Okay. The old man. And the old man
or Frank Carter, he was the one that,
would go and he'd,
you know, there's a great movie out called,
Song
Chaser,
Songcatcher.
And anyhow, that was it, which she did.
But but but he'd get
he'd get the he'd hear these songs. He's
(40:20):
and they'd they'd been traditional. They'd been been
playing for hundreds of years, and they'd bring
them over there.
And then he'd get it and, boy, and
then publish it.
And and, that put that country music
Yeah. On the map. That didn't that kinda
started the Grand Ole Opry. Yeah. Didn't it?
Mhmm. That's a great great tradition.
(40:40):
Hey. Before it's we got twenty minutes left
almost. But before, I I know both of
you guys have backgrounds in various different Yeah.
Famous
people groups. But why don't you give us
some of those? Well, you talk.
I've been very fortunate to be in the
movies. I was on doctor Quinn, doctor Quinn
and all that stuff. Medicine Woman. Right? Yeah.
(41:02):
Okay. And I've been in a few movies
and stuff. I've just always background actors
thing, but it was quite an experience. I
bet. And,
but, you talked to brother, the good reverend,
and he's he's played with the cats, the
way the
the stuff, the real deal. Okay. Yeah. I
am guilty of that.
(41:23):
I am. I am. I got to play
with Sonny and Cher.
Oh. And, of course, Sonny
was just
a truth
seeker.
Oh, really? And that's why he turned into
a
entrepreneur
and he was 12 of it, manure.
And
and Entrepreneur? Yeah. He got into politics and
(41:44):
stuff. Oh, yeah. And Great field.
Cher is
hysterical.
And you never know. She'll come out of
left field on you. She's kinda like you.
I'm looking at Ray there.
Yes.
Yeah. And,
oh, the
Johnny and Edgar Winters. Wow. Yeah. I grew
up with them. I'm playing with them.
(42:06):
Mickey Gilley. Mickey Gilley too? Yeah. You're you're
jumping around there. Jerry Lee Lewis. I don't
know how big a whole lot. You say
You betcha. And he was a big guy,
and he would whoop your
yeah. He was a little volatile. Yeah. He
really was. Didn't call him the killer for
nothing. Yes. Correct. Yeah.
But he was a fine guy. I played
(42:28):
bass with him and just enjoyed it, and
I never got beat up by him or
anything.
It was funny.
And then
there was always
people like,
Alghero
and I, yeah, played and hang with him.
And then my good friend, Willie Arnelis,
I got with Sunday and Sherry and got
(42:49):
Willie turned on. Okay. And then well, the
list goes on and on, and it just
it was so much fun. I was a
kid, didn't know nothing, still though, but
they were kinda they were like you guys,
very welcoming and and safe. You felt safe.
You
you know? That's a good thing. Yeah. Because
nobody's
(43:10):
judging you if you can get up there
and play for me
and not screw me up,
you're welcome. Well, and just what you said
there, get up and play. And
little known to a lot of people yes.
I play guitar too, but both me and
my dog. I got eyesore for you. But
but it's one thing. I've only been up
on stage maybe a few times. And what's
(43:31):
the the adage, never let them see you
sweat?
I think it was like Niagara Falls when
I got there, man. So but it's a
talent itself to be able to get up
there and have it. Oh, you have to
you have to gotta be full of it
a little bit just to get by. You
do. I think so. Because you gotta set
that you gotta become this
this person.
Yeah. Person,
(43:52):
then being real shy and all I think,
you know, you gotta have them
throw stuff at them and lie to them
and everything.
Well,
that's quite a history though to be
with all
of those people.
And then Bobby Joe too, you have a
radio and a TV. Well, you've already said
you've been on
the TV. Yeah. But a radio background yourself.
(44:15):
Yeah. I had
I've been
the the disc jockey thing and
I Oh, wow. KHBR
AM and FM in Hillsborough, Texas.
And I was a drive home guy. And
I just get this gig. I was I
was gonna wanna be a professional, and so
I was gonna go to this school and
(44:36):
everything and Broadcasting school? Uh-huh. And and and
but I get this gig in Hillsborough, Texas.
Yeah. We need this guy under the and
they gave me drive home time. Well, the
only thing there was
you had to read the news
and
god truth. This is the truth. And there
was a lot of, Yugoslavian
people
there, and so their names were all this
(44:58):
deal.
And so
I still say it is very embarrassing, but
I I read the deal and
there's and then there's a creepy, papy, poopy
class,
and it was crate paper poppy class. Yeah.
You built tape. But it was creepy, papy,
poopy. Online radio. Online radio. And I'm sure
(45:19):
that the manager, they they're at dinner because
right at dinner, they're going,
what was that?
Your listenership probably went up 20% though when
I got out there. This guy's really funny.
Right on, man.
God. But that was, you know and then
I've had,
we had a I had a buddy on
(45:39):
our show. It was called Chillin' with Bobby
Joe, and
and,
we'd play music. We had some really neat
players come and play music live.
This is at the station that you're talking
about? Yeah. No. This was this no. This
was in, in Reno, Nevada Oh, oh, okay.
At,
America
what is it? I can't remember, and I'm
(46:01):
not gonna tell.
America matters? America matters. Yeah. Madam. Now we're
talking about Madam. I don't care.
And,
and so I had you know, we had
that. And then I took a one better.
I had
a a friend that I had met,
and he was,
he had his own show,
(46:23):
called Wall to Wall Blues because he was
a he's from England.
And that art of taking rocks and making
them fit and doing walls,
you know, without the mortar. Oh, wow.
Yeah. Yeah. And and That is an art.
Yeah. It it really is. And he,
he had a very successful show.
So we combined them and we did a
(46:44):
live thing,
and it was so neat because
of hearing,
I got the interview that the the cast
were over in England
in that area.
And then he interviewed
people like Buddy and Floyd and all the
the these people
and with the accents. Because I love to
hear the English accent
(47:05):
and they love to hear, hey, how y'all
doing? You know? You know what? I love
that. I love every accent. Yeah. It it
just it's kinda what makes the world go
around me when I hear it. I I
I enjoy it all. Yeah. It's kinda sad
that accents around the country are just some
extent dying.
Yeah. I guess television radio is probably doing
that. Yeah. Or But you could still travel
(47:26):
in the South and have people speaking English
too, and you have no idea what they're
saying. Yeah. I know.
Probably my first thing of going to Mississippi
and and the guy goes, oh, oh, yeah.
Put over here. Nobody I go, you mean
over over here? I go, yeah. Over here.
Over here. Take this and put it over
here.
Well, then Jern's claim.
(47:47):
Jern's
Yeah. For you. You were Yeah. Yeah. And
and speaking of Mississippi,
you were kind of,
what am I trying to say? You were
pumped up about some of that music too.
Now that's some old, I would call it.
I had an opportunity to I had an
opportunity to to live and play on Bourbon
Street for a month. Flew down there. Okay.
Didn't make a dime, but I can say
(48:08):
I played in Bourbon Street. Well, right on.
Right on. Yeah. Now and speak to our
listeners,
Bobby Joe and Buddy, I believe, are planning,
hopefully, one day to do a show Yes.
Their own show. And what you already have
a name?
Well, I I I got it. I've got
shows running running up my ears. Okay. Okay.
(48:31):
Working on one is called Blues from the
Beach. Blues from the Beach. How apropos of
our air. And it'd be it'd be a
lot
down at the, the harbor Yeah. And everything.
But we're gonna be,
Buddy and I, we've got,
the, you know, the Grateful Geezers and and
it'll be a lot of playing music and
(48:51):
stuff. And we're gonna have we're gonna have,
the people
like yourself come up here and play.
I wanna I wanna get these these older
people that you say that play real well,
you know. We'll
I'll be, contacting
Yeah. Who we're talking about. Probably next week.
Oh, that'll be so wonderful because that's what
I wanted. And Buddy has, you know, a
(49:12):
lot of,
incredible stories in music, and that's what
that's what our show is gonna be like
is because it's just two,
grateful Geezer musicians
that,
he's got, you know, in a good twenty,
thirty years more on me, but but still,
I've been out there for a lot of
years too. You know? And it's just,
(49:34):
the experiences,
but the the honor of that we're still
able to play.
And that's it's it's just mind boggling. That
is huge. I mean, I've noticed even me
playing I I I don't play like I
used to because my hands get numb and
my fingers Yeah. Oh, yeah. You can I
call Ernie Gaffney, the guitar? Yeah. You get
past that, he goes, oh, it sounds good,
(49:55):
and I I can't feel it, but it
sounds good.
Well, Buddy, I wanna get back to you
real quick. Yes. What was your first inspiration
too? And what instrument did you first play?
Or what what got you into music in
the first place?
Going way back, I see. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I haven't any idea. I'm just gifted.
(50:17):
Okay. And I learn by ear. I
study,
stuttered
until I was about
till I got tired of getting beat up
because I mean
and then I figured it out. Well, I
can play music, and they can't. I don't
need to read it because I can hear
it. Well, that's it. So so you don't
read music. Yeah. I do now. I have
(50:38):
a BA in it, but I never used
it. I just got school for a while.
I I've threatened to teach school up here,
but I don't know if the sheriff's gonna
get get let me. But
I'm a a musicologist,
and I know songs from, like, the fifteen
hundreds
and Darbytown
and all those great things. Y'all ever heard
(50:59):
of those? No. I no. I haven't. 15
hundreds. Okay. I'm gonna do it Before my
time. And Thursday night. We're doing Thursday.
Yeah. Oh, and I heard I heard, though,
maybe he's taken off a couple weeks because
of I of Christmas. I think, but, you
might be right. I thought this coming Thursday
that we're gonna do the last open mic.
But we'll we'll Oh, maybe that's it. That's
(51:20):
it. But we yeah. I was gonna premiere
my it's a little blue. It's Irish, as
you know.
Uh-huh. And it's called Direby Town in Powder
Billy Goat.
Okay. You can kind of put it together
by there. And Right on. A Catholic priest
will have to bless you
and your family before
(51:40):
it is allowed to be played.
And but it's
it's hysterical.
And we had him singing that the other
night,
and I forgot the words.
But it's part of the show. It happens.
And I wasn't even drinking.
Yeah.
Well, That's really sad. Yeah. Well, that's really
sad.
(52:03):
Well, we are getting down. We got about
seven minutes left. But I think we could
take about three or four of those minutes
Okay. And and hear about your,
military experience. Yeah. K. Wait. Yeah. Yeah. We
we do have four veterans here at the
Mike's. Right. We were really running on that
earlier because When when I when I see
somebody wearing
(52:23):
a a a hat or a shirt or
something, they say they're a Vietnam veteran. I
always say, well, where were you? Because I
was there too, maybe. Right. And I got
a very very surprised Thank you for your
service, brother. Very surprising
answer from you. Could you tell me what
it was? Well, as
I was at Vietnam, but I was on
a submarine. And our submarine was within
(52:46):
the 12 mile radius. I saw
the peninsula,
the the bush.
I saw it through a periscope.
And,
and we were we were there. And,
unfortunately,
during that Vietnam, you know, they did that
Agent Orange
Yeah. And the and the flyers. And they'd
(53:06):
come around, and when they were thought they
were just about finished with enough of the
Agent Orange and the the tanks, they would
just
go fly out there and just drop them
and and the ocean. Well, a submarine
takes the ocean water Yeah. And makes it
drinkable. We have a distilling
machine deal like this. But it doesn't know
anything. But it doesn't know anything about that
(53:28):
little Agent Orange. So so we're all we're
called Blue Water Veterans
of the Agent Orange, and that's why I
have a little stuff on my face and
stuff that I've had it that you can't
it just doesn't go away
and stuff.
And but our deal was that
we went through there, and and then that's
(53:48):
when I said our our,
orders were to go and film
or take pictures of this
this, submarine
that was, I call it old pig boat.
It was an old diesel boat because
we were so far ahead of the of,
Russia and everything,
(54:08):
And they were firing a rocket off of
a topside. So it's just like a
boat,
bow in the water and then fire off
the rocket. Where we I was trained in
the FBM that had the the 16
missiles
that were underwater and shoot and take off
and it would split warheads and they would
it could take destroy two cities
(54:31):
on one
on one,
rocket. One rocket. Yeah. And so
our mission was to to take pictures of
this. So they had about a 100
of,
ships going around in a in a kind
of a oval thing miles away, but it
was
the ships protecting us. Well, they knew we
(54:52):
were there and we came through like in
a movie.
This was
the stern of this one and here's the
bow of the other one and we step
in there and we got in there and
took pictures and
we raised the periscope and we could see,
literally see the Russian
sailors on the on these,
(55:12):
you know, on these boats. These You definitely
have a unique experience. I have a friend
who was a translator,
and his job or one of his jobs
was to fly
over the the b 50 twos that were,
bombing North Korea. Yeah. And he could hear
the the Vietnamese reporting about the damage. And
he'd say, well, they got got this on
the west end of the, the airstrip, and
(55:34):
I got that over there. But they didn't
get the munitions thing at at when
and they described where that was. Well, of
course, then Then Then they got to get
it because they just thank you. Thank you,
brother. Thank
you. But that was you know? And then
there as I say, when
when after we finished,
we were leaving and we're gonna go back
out the same way and that's when they
(55:56):
broke ranks because they knew where we were
and they tried to ram us. They wanted
to they ram us and and then either
sink us or make
us come topside and and, you know, be
an international instrument.
Fortunately,
when they,
the guy that was on the office of
the deck, you know, he go, okay, up
(56:16):
scope.
Dive, dive, dive, like, in a movie and
bam, it's not but we just we dump
everything because it can take the the big
tanks on the side can just
grabs the water so it just like a
lead. No. It still wasn't
quick enough, and it and it,
it hit the number two scope they were
they were looking through
(56:37):
and bent it, but didn't break it off.
And they chased us for about a week
and a half.
And
and we could we rack back and forth,
and they,
we're doing death charges because they were upset.
They they couldn't get close to us,
but they could still do this death charges.
And I can remember listening to the death
charges and stuff.
(56:58):
Yeah. And then finally they finally after we
can have they either ran out of money
or or or or they got orders, you
know, you're not gonna catch these guys, so
just
come on back.
And
but that and
the the Duffy for me I mean, that
was an experience
because I remember
I was on the I was on the
(57:18):
planes
when that happened,
and we had to dive real quick. And
the planes were the great big planes on
the sail that Yeah. Like this.
But then they're going underwater for sixty two
days,
and I kinda, like, had a nervous breakdown
because it was just
One day underwater would do it for me.
(57:40):
Well, listen. We are running out of time.
Yes. And, so we've covered a lot of
ground here today from,
poisonous snakes, a lot of music. Green snakes.
A lot of music. Green.
Green snakes. Yeah.
And,
war experiences. Yes. Yeah. And, again, yeah. Well,
it's nice to have we got two navy
people here, one air force and army. So
(58:02):
Yeah.
Veterans. We all Thank you. Thank you for
your service. Oh, well, thank you. You got
everybody here. Thank me. I got drafted. They
dragged me on three MPs to take me
out of my bedroom,
drag me off, and say, you're in the
army now, boy. One sort of veteran. No.
I'd say that. Good luck to you. Alright,
y'all. Yeah. We are out of time. Thank
you, guys. Alright. Thank you. It was a
real pleasure. Loved having you guys. What a
(58:23):
great show, fun show. And the Grateful Geezers,
we can't wait.
I'm gonna make the next appearance. We'll be
there Thursday.
Uh-huh. That's Friday night. Run by the, brewery.
Yes. GEICO Brewery. Yeah. Alright, y'all.
Thank you. You're listening again. And remember, KCIWLP
100.7
(58:44):
That was fun. Brookings,
Oregon. Beautiful Brookings.
Yes, y'all. Thank you guys.
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