June 28, 2025 • 59 mins
This episode of the Doc & Jacques radio variety show with hosts Dr. Gigi Reed and Jacques Kepner is a guest-free “potpourri” edition. The hosts turn to science to discuss the composition and unique properties of air and water. Then they move on to talk about Jacque’s extensive background as an antique appraiser and auctioneer, […]
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Welcome.
You have now entered the cosmic radio receptors
of a c o w one hundred point
seven FM in Brookings, Oregon.
Thank you for tuning into this week's fabulous
program, super fabulous.
I'm doctor Gigi, and my cohost is, as
always, Jacques Kepner. How are you today, Jacques
Kepner? Greetings, everyone. A big shout out to
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our sound engineers, Ray Simon and Tom Bozak,
for making this program possible.
Happy Wednesday, everyone. We're officially one day away
from being six days before next week when
we will be doing exactly what we're doing
right now, but in eight days from now
minus that one extra day, which is today.
Alright.
Welcome to the Doc and Jacques Show. I
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want to mention that you are hearing this
live show on KCOW
in Brookings, Oregon that said the same show
should
be
be being rebroadcast in exactly one week from
now each and every Wednesday on k z
z h ninety six point seven FM in
Eureka Humboldt at 8AM in the morning. Gotta
rise up early for that one. And then
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a few hours later at 1PM on my
old alma mater, KFUG one hundred and one
FM
in Crescent City, California. So now you know,
Doctor. Gigi and I have your coasts
covered. Today's Doc and Jacques show is a
bit different
in that we do not have a guest,
a musician,
a savant, or Messiah
on the show.
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Rather, doctor Gigi Reed and I will be
following a fun path
of exploring multiple topics and issues. And these
kind of shows, which happen irregularly,
are always some of the most fun to
do and produce. Right. Today's show happens to
be our eighty first episode of this Doc
and Jacques show. And over the course of
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all these shows, we have hosted well over,
I mean, conservatively, 160
people. Oh, yeah.
Interesting, entertaining people who make a difference in
our coastal communities. Above all else, we wish
to thank
all of our listeners. And I know a
lot of you, you know who you are,
and I'm thinking of y'all right now,
who,
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make the show possible and who listen and
give their support and critique Yeah. And enjoy
it. So,
it's allowed us your listenership has allowed us
to let the show grow,
beyond our wildest dreams. Right.
Yes. So thank you so much for your
support and input, dear listeners.
I will lead off our little chatting chair
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section Chatting chairs. That's us. Chatting chairs.
Of the show
hour with some necessary for life trivia
or unnecessary, really. No. It's necessary because it's
the air you breathe and the water you
drink. Jackie and I were discussing what would
be fun subjects to explore, and we came
up with what
is air
air, a I r.
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K? Yes. Indeed. For self inflationary
scientists
like me
Right. I found out these amazing facts.
Air
mainly consists of nitrogen, 78%,
and oxygen, 21%
Uh-huh. And argon, slight amount there, along with
a few other trace amounts of gases like
carbon dioxide and neon.
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Yes. I said neon.
Now I know, doctor, why I leave such
bright imprints on people. I still don't get
that. I'm a legend in my own in
my own neon sparkling mind. You see? Can
you top that, dear doctor? Oh, I shall
try and probably succeed.
Let's
let's start with the nitrogen, almost 78%.
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Right? Well, 78 and some
square ones in there.
Let's ask the obvious question.
Why the heck do we have so much
nitrogen? Yeah. And what are we doing with
it? And
wouldn't it be better to just have a
bunch of oxygen
because when people think when you say air,
they immediately go just oxygen. They just think
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it's but it's not. It's by far nitrogen.
And you yeah. Exactly. How I know? So
the short answer
is that we would be on the dead
side if we had much more oxygen around
us.
So the primary advantage of the nitrogen is
actually
to dilute the oxygen,
making it safer for life.
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Interesting. Oxygen is essential for respiration,
but a pure oxygen atmosphere would be highly
flammable
and dangerous therefore.
Mhmm. Nitrogen acts as a buffer, reducing the
risk of fire and other oxidation reaction.
So, additionally, nitrogen is crucial, very important for
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the so called nitrogen cycle,
which provides nitrogen to plants and is essential
for the formation of amino acids and proteins,
the building blocks of life. Woah. That's really
cool because I thought nitrogen was just fertilizer.
What?
So does that mean we still have to
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make our amino acids? We still make our
we have some essential amino acids, but, yes,
we do our make most of our amino
acids, and we also make our genetic material,
which contains
a bunch of nitrogen. Woah. I thought so.
So now I know that I'm not
just a bunch of bull fertilizer.
Alright. Here's a fun fact.
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Nitrogen is sometimes used to inflate tires because
it looks it leaks
through the tire casing. It's much slower,
than oxygen Right. Which helps it maintain consistent
air pressure. I wonder if they can do
that here and probably wouldn't explode either. Right?
Okay. Not that tires explode all the time.
Yeah. So let's go back to the oxygen.
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Oxygen. Oxygen at an atmospheric
concentration of almost 21%
since
cells can
use it and make water out of it.
And doing so, they gain energy. So that's
a
reduction reaction. A reduction. They reduce the chemical
of its,
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energy, basically. K. Oxygen is essential to all
animals. Yep. All of us.
And at a higher concentration
acid before oxygen is a poison because we
cannot neutralize the so called, get ready, reactive
oxygen
species
Oh. Or spectrum,
r o s. R o s. Okay. 21%
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oxygen is ideal for most life.
We have the neutralizing agents that can deal
with it and
and and can't deal with those. You can't
have the higher concentration.
Otherwise, it's bad. Okay. But remember those cocktail
bars that we used to have, see popping
up a few years ago? They're real popular.
The ones where you'd go in and get
on a face mask and sip pure oxygen.
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What was that all about? And how could
those people survive? Like like booze, pure oxygen
would be bad for us. Right? Right. Good
point. Yeah. Yeah. Alright. Yeah. The oxygen bars
actually deliver
oxygen at about 40%. Oh, they're ripping it
off by adding air to it. Darn it.
Just like bling. Yes. I don't know if
a 100% is just 40%, and 40% is
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considered
safe for short times.
It does, however, increase the likelihood of us
making these reactive oxygen species, which are bad
for us. Right? Okay. Let's move on to
Okay. Let's move on to argon. Argon. About
1% of it is in the air. Argon
is a noble gas. It does not interact
with anything. But I do. My nickname was
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King Argon, and I was so full of
noble gas when I was younger.
So tell us more about argon, dear doctor.
Argon, the noble gas, is a byproduct of
the radioactive
decay of mostly potassium. There is a Sound
good. The radioactive potassium out there, and it
accumulates at only 1%, almost 1%
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because this is how it accumulates.
It doesn't react with anything. It doesn't react
further. It's just there.
So it hangs out in our air because
it doesn't react with anything, doesn't decay further
or anything.
Now other things hanging out in the air
Like? Like carbon dioxide
Yeah. Methane
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Uh-oh. Smell, smell, nitrous oxide,
ozone.
Those are compounds that trap the
Earth's heat and contribute to the greenhouse effect
Oh, yeah. For us to be so nice
and warm Which warms the planet? Which warms
then the planet. Right on. And fun numbers,
the average person breathes about 13 pints of
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air per minute. That's one more pint than
I drink every hour.
How much is a pint? I don't know.
Don't ask me this question. I know, but
I'd like to Like almost a pound or
something. Yeah. And it takes around, we take
around 17,000
breaths per day. That's a lot. It's amazing.
Our lungs exchange oxygen from inhaled
air for carbon dioxide.
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They exchange it. On average, people consume about
100 gallons of that pure oxygen daily, but
it's diluted as you It's diluted 20%. And
also, I wanna point something out. Right. The
oxygen from the air
that
the plants
put out and we breathe in
is not the oxygen of the c o
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two. So oxygen is o two and c
o two is c o two, but those
oxygens are not related. The oxygen we're breathing
in, we turn into water, h two o.
I know that. And the carbon dioxide
that we've cleaned out, c o two is
the leftover from the food we're eating. I
find that spectacular. That is amazing. Okay, doc.
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That was fun and interesting. There is, nothing
more exciting than air.
Okay. Wake man. Alright. Can we now move
on to something I think which is much
more deep?
It's in a deep pool of water and
bold and amazing exhilarating like
water. Water? H two 0. H two 0.
Yeah. Yeah. We did talk about H two
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o. Alright. So you're right. Scientifically,
water is an amazing thing. Yes.
So as you remember, you and I are
made up mainly of water, and the world
is covered mainly with water. With water. Yep.
And we cannot survive without water. Water. Pretty
pretty amazing. So, yes, water is crucial for
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our world, to our world, in our world,
in our health and welfare. Okay. Well, tell
me more about water. My German born,
multilingual,
patent holding research scientist and medical doctor
hit me with your best shots. Yeah. I
didn't really do all that with water, but
I'll tell you something.
Water is a molecule consisting of two hydrogen
atoms
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covalently
bonded, that's the strongest bond, to one oxygen
atom, hence,
h two o. Got it. So many chemicals
out there can consist exist at seven different
stages. Okay. Like? So water can exist
as a solid, and we call it Ice.
Ice.
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Not the kind of ice that's being out
there arresting people right now. No. I see
e. Ice. Ice cream.
And a liquid, and then it's called Water
vapor distillation?
Water. Right. A water good. Liquid water.
It also can be a gas, and then
it's called water vapor. Oh, yeah. You're right.
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Water freezes at zero degrees Which is? Celsius.
To
Yeah. So that's how zero degrees was defined.
When does water freeze? Oh, god. Oh, this
is our zero point. That was That was
the benchmark.
What about boiling? Which happens to be at
32 degrees Fahrenheit. Right? Which is not a
good number,
but it's the number. And, yeah, when it
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boils at a 100 degrees centigrade, that was
the other benchmark.
That's what you you Germans and Europeans and
most people in the world know, but the
centigrade Just about anybody else. Yes. That's two
twelve. That's another weird number. Right? So two
twelve degrees Fahrenheit, and that's at standard pressure,
which means,
it's different when you go higher up in
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the mountains. It boils a little k. Earlier.
Cool. So usually, water also is very has
a low compressibility.
Whatever that means. That means you have a
hard time compressing water.
And if you compare it with other liquids,
they're easily compressed. So that's another anomaly anomaly.
K. Water is a polar
molecule,
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meaning
meaning it has a slight negative charge on
the oxygen side and a slight
positive charge on the hydrogen side. The hydrogen
two o. Okay. Gotcha. Yeah. So it that
one makes it very cool actually to deal
with. The polarity contributes to
a lot of different things.
For example, it's a very good solvent. Water
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is a good solvent. It's a very good
solvent. Otherwise, I wanna brush my teeth.
And it has a high surface tension. High
surface tension. Yeah. So if you have ever
seen Water Pond and then those little water
walker,
little spider looking things, they walk over, usually
only because of the water tension being so
high. Water walkers on Star Trek, I saw.
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Okay. Okay. Water can dissolve more substances
than any
other liquid, including
sulfuric acid. I get it. Because I use
sulfuric
acid to brush my teeth, but last night,
it didn't turn out too well.
When I drink, you know, I sometimes get
high,
like that surface tension too. You know? I
surface You get high in? Yeah. I know.
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It's that good my drink, I sometimes get
high surface tension. Okay. Alright.
I'm probably more about the polarity. What is
this polarity stuff? What is it that allows
it to dissolve?
Yeah? Whatever. Okay. That one is Speaking of
water, do you know what happens when I
get undressed in the bedroom, dear doctor? What?
In the bathroom or in the bedroom? No.
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What
okay. Let's go back.
Do you know what happens when I get
undressed in the bathroom? Oh, what? The shower
gets turned off.
I heard Ray Simon and Tom Bozek laughing
at that one earlier.
Well, at least something does. Right? Are you
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stuck in about me when I No. I'm
just saying it could be the faucet or
something.
Water is also relatively high in density, meaning
it is
very dense, the little the little, atmosphere turns
into further. Ice.
So that's what you would think. If it's
very dense, it's on ice. But guess what?
It is more dense when it is at
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four degrees Celsius.
That's the highest density. So
solid form is actually
less dense as liquid form,
which is very cool. That's why ice floats.
That's why ice floats. Right? It's lighter on
the like screws and bolts and things like
that to my,
tray to make it sink and trick people,
but it never worked.
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Wow. And you were a magician Yeah. At
some point. That's a pretty good one. So
and and we know when we put our
water bottles in the freezer or when you
put a can of soda in the freezer,
it explodes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So water expands
when it freezes. By nearly what? By 10%
or so. But still,
if it were at four degrees, it is
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the
densest.
Nearly three percent of all water on Earth
is locked in ice caps and glaciers.
Therefore,
90%
of the world's supply of fresh water is
located in the polar regions. The Polar Region.
Interesting fact. Yeah. Nice. So we already said
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that
another recap, the density anomaly of ice is
crucial for the life on Earth.
It allows that the lakes and ponds do
not freeze from the bottom up, but from
the top. Down.
So when you have the ice shoals floating
on the water, it insulates the water below,
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Oh. And it prevents it from freezing solid
and destroying all life that is down there.
So it supports the aquatic Oh, very interesting.
Cool. Alright. I got some great ones. 97%
of the world's water is actually salty or
otherwise undrinkable.
Oh, no. That leaves just 1%
of fresh water for all of humanity's
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agricultural, residential,
manufacturing,
and personal
hygiene
needs. Wait. Where are the 2%, my salesman?
Oh, yeah. Shoot.
She's always pointing out these little inaccuracies.
I get away with them when I'm talking
fast. Oh, my goodness. The oceans help regulate
the Earth's temperature.
That's another tidbit.
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Yep. Since we're what? Mainly Since we Yeah.
Are mainly water, it helps regulate our temperature
too. Cool. Right? Water carries nutrients and oxygens
to cells
as in the plasma. Right? Our blood plasma.
It cushions joints as in joint fluid.
Oh, that type. Okay. Protects organs and tissues
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as in whatever serous fluid we have, for
example. And it removes the waste
as in pee.
75%
of the human brain is rota. Did you
say what?
75%?
Yeah. Well, guess what? I'm more like 95%.
Mhmm.
Shockeyeboo,
we know. Okay. Well, man, that isn't a
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smart thing to say.
A person can live for weeks on end
without food, but only about a week without
water.
Wow. About five True. 100,000,000,000
gallons of water are used in The United
States per No way. Day. No way. Way.
Way. And And much of it goes to
agriculture in America's hydroelectric
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facility.
That's right. It's just pumping out those huge
dams that pump out trillions of gallons, millions
of gallons. Yeah.
Wow. Alright. Well, I know that Vegas uses
up most of that.
Talk about neon abuse. Neon abuse is pretty
I mean, we're talking water right now. I
found out that the average swimming pool uses
25,000
gallons of water. And guess what country has
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the most swimming pools?
Who could it be? Maybe America? Maybe it
is not his day. We are so excessive.
We're crazy about that. Wow. Maybe not in
Crescent City or Brookings or Harbor. That's true.
Yeah.
A little bit cold in here. Yeah. Eighty
percent of all illness in developing countries is
water related. Oh, what do they call that
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one disease where you get,
cholera? No. Choleraized? Labborne. Yeah. Waterborne? Yeah. Okay.
See, I know things. Oh, you do know.
So unclean water equals
unhealthiness.
Right? K. Over seventy five percent of the
world's population lives in the driest
half of the planet. Wow. Put that together.
Put that in your smoke and pipe it.
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Right. So more of the world is the
population, heavy population. In the driest half of
the planet. So that's why the water is
easily
made dirty and because you don't have that
much water to deal with, so you have
to be reusing the same water
or not washing your hands
so much. Maybe that's why Possibly. It happens.
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Okay. Lastly, the world,
consumes
billions of bottles of water every day. We
are so addicted to those stupid Yeah. I
have one right now. They're everywhere. Right? Bottles
made from petrochemical
plastics, and
they are not that healthy. Yeah. We have
spent many
trillions
of money's,
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dollars on bottled water. I mean, worldwide,
trillions and quadrillions of Yeah. People buying bottled
water. Now get this. K. If we took
about one third
of that money spent on bottled water Every
per year. Per year. One third of the
total of the whole world Yeah. We could
collectively build hundreds
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of desalination
facilities,
take this water out of the seawater
along Earth's coastlines
to quench the thirst of every human alive.
I was shocked at some of the statistics
showing
how much of the world, I think over
half the world, does not have access to
clean water in there. Right? I mean, how
many people live in the dry in the
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dry part? Carry the water be but if
we just took one third of all the
money that the world spends on
bottled water in one year Yeah. We'd be
able to build hundreds of very costly expensive
desalination,
facilities around the world. Man, and we'd we'd
quench it forever. There would be no They
doubt yeah. Until they break down. But, yeah,
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it would be worth a try for sure.
Now we went the other last week, ten
days ago, twelve days ago, we went up
we went up the canyon,
and we got Oh, okay. Water from the
spring,
which is Yes. Fan flippantastic.
It has no
it's it has been tested several times according
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to a source,
and it has been deemed very good drinking
water. And even I like that water.
Water. It has no chlorine in it. It's
a spring. Right? And we have filled It's
about 15 miles past Hialuchi, but you kinda
wind up. You go over those two bridges
like you're gonna go over the Smith River
and down towards Stout Grove. Yeah. You turn
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left and go, what, 12 miles. About 12
miles. Yeah. That's where Creek
Bridge. Yeah. Stevens Bridge. About there. And there's
just a pipe just a pipe coming out.
And while we we had, like, 20 gallons.
21 gallons we filled up. We filled up.
But we had a couple of five gallon
containers and things like that. Right. But it
was amazing. And it was and the water
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is really? Amazing. It really so there is
still good water out there. Yeah. We're we're
blessed. We're blessed in this area and, with
our clean waters and our clean rivers like
the Chetco and
Smith
and the Windchuck and the Right. Oge. We
have All the ones that come in to
Eureka and what? I mean, we're just Klamath.
We have Klamath. Yeah. We have great rivers.
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And,
I mean, we have that's where the salmon
is, right? But don't we aren't we supposed
to have the cleanest river?
Yeah. I mean, the Smith River is one
of the cleanest rivers ranked third, I think,
in the world. In the world. Always consistently
the clean cleanest river in America. You'd think
that's up in Colorado someplace. Right? Right.
Someplace, some mountain top, but nope.
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It is not. It is right here in
our own backyard. You live in a wonderful
place.
Speaking of fresh water Yeah? Americans
flush
6,000,000,000
gallons per day through their toilets. 6,000,000,000
gallons every day in America. Fine. Yeah. Okay.
So that was better and more fluid than
I thought it would be. Thank you for
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that interesting intake on some of that
wonderful stuff that we just discussed called Yeah.
Air Air and water. And water. Okay. I'm
gonna I'm gonna rush down here. I'm gonna
start, thanking a couple of our major sponsors,
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And,
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Hey.
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some questions? Is that what we wish you
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if we're gonna so this is I'm gonna,
preamble it before the break because we have
the break in Alright. Just a tiny second.
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it's a it's a great way to get
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it's a great way to get your
word out there about your community.
So after the break, which is in three
minutes, we're gonna learn more about you.
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What? Because I want the audience to learn
more about your past
where I don't even know if I'm gonna
start this. But you were
an antique
store owner and appraiser of art and old
stuff
and also a California licensed auctioneer.
Do you wanna start telling us about that
before we go to the break then? Go
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ahead. Well, I I gotta say that I
was fortunate. I'm 67 now, but I was
fortunate I was raised in a great, great
home full of antiquities.
My parents were
major
collectors.
They were all over the place. Are they
hoarders or collectors? No, they were. They. Mom
only had to find the stuff and we
would I mean, I got my first job
at 10 years old working at Tate auction,
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Tate's auction down in the Peninsula of San
Francisco. And then later, I was a weekly
feature at all the Butterfield and Butterfield
auctions happening in San Francisco. We'd spent our
summers traveling to Missouri where the auction culture
was huge. And man, did we
just would bring back
truckloads
of antiquities because
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after retiring from a San Francisco corporate world
job,
my father
immediately opened up an antique store. The store
was down in Burlingame, 15 miles south of
San Francisco. And this served as a gateway
into the world of antiquities and appraisals
for me. And then
just a few years after graduating from college,
I took a few other jobs, did this
and that, but I
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I always came back to antiques antiques. I
love them. I had a great store in
Birmingham
to find these things, fix them up, and
put them back out. I took the necessary
test, I think in the early eighties or
was it yes, early eighties.
And I became a I paid all these
fees and I became actually took a very
hard test and became a California state licensed
auctioneer.
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And then a few years after that, I
was running a chain of antique stores and
importing vintage
chattel
in the Bay Area for sale
at auction. That, in a nutshell, was my
career, and I've done it for over
fifty
years now. Yeah. I was doing it actually
when I was 14
when dad retired.
I Well, don't give everything away already. We
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have many more questions Yeah. Okay. Alright. To
go through. So let me do this part
here. Yeah. You're gonna do it? Okay. Yeah.
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Alright. Where was I was talking about? You
can go on. I did for fifty years.
That's what I did for but Yeah. I
wanna say I slowly eased out of auctioning
and retired from owning brick and mortar. I
had five shops at one time between Sacramento
and San Francisco,
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down the Peninsula. It was kinda spread out
all over. Mhmm. I had these brick and
mortar businesses in the late nineties.
I closed them all down. Instead, at that
point, I focused in and specialized in the
antique art
and vintage and collectible appraisal business, kind of
what they do on TV's Antique Roadshow. Very
popular show on PBS. Dang. Yeah. Even I've
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seen that. When it comes to antiques and
treasures, there are so many categories.
Is it over overwhelming,
or is it not? How can you come
to know all those many different things? Alright.
Well, the short answer to that is I
have to know just a little bit
about so many of these things.
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Just think about this short abbreviated list I'm
gonna rattle off to you. Yeah. There's paintings,
rugs,
pottery,
cars, toys, clocks,
all art,
jewelry,
coins,
military and war stuff,
firearms, paper ephemera,
radio LPs,
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film, telephone, sports stuff, cards, ivory, nautical stuff.
Everything musical, a lot there. All types and
styles of furniture,
even more there.
Dolls and books and comics and all types
and styles of glass and ceramics and pottery,
statues, bronze and brass,
medical stuff, oriental stuff, political stuff, Indian items,
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Tiffany, textiles,
clothing,
farm items, tools. Oh my goodness. It goes
on
and on and on. Geez. Yeah. It's a
lot. Wow. So honestly,
how can you know about so many of
these things?
That's easy. I do not.
Seriously. Like that. Maybe AI knows it. But
again, I know just enough about many things
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to have a general idea of what the
items are
and their approximate values.
And where did you learn so much? Well,
again, that childhood upbringing in auctions and going
to auctions and living in the auction atmosphere
and and selling them, getting their hands on,
following my dad into homes. Yeah. Doing that
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stuff. I learned from the school of literally
hard knocks where mainly
I was privy since that young man into
venturing into thousands, literally thousands of estates, homes,
and businesses
all over that were just full of treasure.
I've seen so many things, but every anyone
that tells you they know it all,
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don't trust them because they don't.
What we use in the industry or we
used to. Now everybody it's changing with the
advent of the phone and and the Internet.
Internet. Yeah. But what we used to use
in the industry was called satellites or people
that knew everything there is to know about
just one
field or one of those genres that I
just mentioned. The divers, not the skimmers,
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You're not the
The diving? Yeah. Yeah. You know about that
stuff. Okay?
They know just one field of or type
of antique or collectible. Like,
I had friends that were pottery mark experts.
Or Pottery marks? What's the mark on the
pottery? Right. Oh, there's silverware. I forgot about
silverware. I'm like, there's so much.
They're rug experts.
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What was a Persian? What was a Turkish?
What was the Indian? I mean, you need
to know all these things and there's huge
money in those old rugs.
Glass, amazing. Just think about how much glassware
there is out there. It's just
staggering.
I had coin, big, big thing on num
what is it called?
Nuministic
collectors that knew their stuff on on coins.
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And then the one I don't even wanna
try to
I forgot. It's I'm rusty. I'm retired.
But stamp collectors Yeah. Stamp experts. Oh, my
goodness. Everybody had their little stamp collection.
Anyways, in a pence. Yeah. They did. Everybody
had a little budget. I would go to
them, and I'd get an approximate evaluation of
the items that needed to be appraised.
Today,
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as in so many other areas as I
just mentioned,
it's been touched by technology.
And things are vastly changing as we speak,
mainly
with the advent of the Internet. And there
are apps now that narrow down so much
of this information floating around and on the
markets, which is both good and bad.
Now how can you still get a good
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deal? Where can you do it? Facebook,
marketplace,
thrift stores, garage sale? Yeah. Those are good
those are good areas to sell them things.
There are deals
that are to be made out there. And
we've all heard about the Picasso painting. For
instance,
just a few years back, it sold at
a garage sale for $50. Yeah. Right. That's
Right. $40,000,000.
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But these stories are in truth pretty rare
and infrequent.
I used to, in my heyday,
price for the Goodwill, Goodwill Industries. I volunteered.
It was a nonprofit entity. Right? It's huge.
Everybody knows Goodwill. Yeah. They had a huge
distribution warehouse just outside of Stockton, California. And
every two weeks, I'd jump in the car
from San Francisco, and I'd head east,
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and I'd go into their vault.
They had this massive warehouse.
And inside this massive warehouse, they had this
vault, this huge inner building within the building,
to do this every two weeks. And I'd
appraise hundreds, thousands of items that they had
stockpiled
from all of their donation facilities.
Now remember, that's how they used to do
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it, whether they still do or not. But
Yeah. Anything you donated to Goodwill in the
past would go to a distribution center and
then get checked out.
They needed to have me to to be
the expert that would check things over prior
to the items being shipped out and then
distributed to their retail stores. So they were
careful about not wanting to pass by. Right.
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Pass by on a Picasso $50. Yeah. Right?
So they had to be What a $50
in
a purse that somebody did. Right? Yep. That's
right. I forgot purses. What a textile and
clothing, partially.
I did that for years.
So at least with a goodwill, 95% of
the time, nothing of extreme value was going
to be overlooked and put out on the
shelves of their thrift stores. I don't know
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what the other ones are doing, but that's
okay. Today,
again, that could all be changed. I don't
know. But like I said, there's plenty of
apps on your phone that give you pretty
much instant appraisals and collectibles and antiques.
What are some of those hot collectibles
right now?
Wow. Okay.
So let's just let me tell you what's
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not collectible. Yeah.
Furniture.
Amazing deals that could be had on furniture
these days. Victorian furniture,
just turn of the century furniture.
It's it's it's bargain basement.
There's beautiful Victorian
dressers that I could buy now
half the cost of what I was paying
for them when I was I used to
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be a direct importer
from England, for instance. Yeah. And I just
it's just collapsed.
Most of glassware and porcelain and dishware is
out. It's cold as last year's pudding.
Prints, everybody call I get so many people
contact me for prints, and I just yawn.
I just so oh, I got a print.
I got you know, it's a Ducks Unlimited
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print. And it's like,
it's $50
if try to get it. Right? You see
them at the thrift stores for $20 and
you see them there week after week. Because
I think, this is my opinion, today's younger
populace,
they want functionability
and they're minimalist.
Yeah. Really, my kids are all I walk
in their house
far from the house that I grew up
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in with everything, all the wall space taken.
There's like nothing on the walls. The kids
today, in fact, they don't want anything much
bigger than what they could fit in their
hands, like their phones. Right? Yeah. So like,
trading cards of all kinds are super hot
commodity. Right? They're small. They're small. Right. You
can switch them out. You can put them
behind your phone in the in the glove
compartment. Right. Well There we go. Lots of
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people know you from the Instagram or Facebook
post when you offer
free text and verbal appraisals
for art and antiques.
Why
do you do that and where's the catch?
Well, first first off, no no strings attached.
People,
I'll tell you right now. I put it
out there on the on the word. There's
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no strings attached. Free means free. Just send
me some
good, I mean, good, predicate,
unblurred,
clear Unblurred. Pictures of your treasure
and give me some history about that treasure
and maybe some of the dimensional notes about
it. If it's a if it's a table,
tell me how tall it is, how wide
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it is. If it's a chair, is it
a baby's chair? Is that a mid chair?
I can't tell from pictures, but give me
good history and dimensional notes about it. And
then guess what? I could text you free
appraisal over the phone. Zero catch. No problem
whatsoever. I love doing this, in fact, because
it keeps
my brain fresh and young.
Because I know Chattel. I know chattel very
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well. Yeah. You know. You mentioned chattel before.
What is chattel? Chattel is a herd that
says
Right? Oh, that's cattle.
I'm sorry. No.
Chattel is everything
inside an estate. So when I go into
estate, everything inside that, it's everything that could
be physically removed in or out of a
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dwelling, technically. Mhmm. It's not the house itself.
That's not what I I praise. Just all
of that personal property. And I mean
everything inside of it. I've been court order
appraiser for years as California state and would
have to go in and decide,
you know,
on a divorce situation, who, what, when, where
goes half and half. And and that's so
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all the chattel is all the antiques in
that house, all the clothing, all the furniture,
the jewelry, the cars,
the toasters, the TVs, computers, everything
within a house is called collectively chattel, c
h a t t e l. Chattel
and real estate are two very distinct animals.
People often think that I am a real
estate appraiser and I am not. And I
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do not appraise
real estate.
I only appraise the chattel, all that stuff
inside the house and not the house itself.
Again, that's real estate.
Now why should people get their things appraised?
Wow. I mean, there's a lot of reasons,
right? People inherit stuff,
from
an aunt that passes away or
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handed down from your parents or maybe you
go up in an attic and you find
something up there then you bring it. Or
maybe you bought something recently at a garage
sale or a yard sale.
Everyone
and everyone, I mean everyone, has some valuable
chattel
in their homes. Do we?
We do. Yeah. We have some very good
chattel. But
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I always ask why not
get it appraised? Remember,
I said that 95%
of the things that I evaluate are just
kind of the
what, regular
collectible chattel. Nothing
spectacular. Yeah. But then
but then big then there is that 5%
that's out there that just might be a
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Picasso or
a $100,000
Persian rug or you can name it. So
I would say just be smart.
Either have me or go to another qualified
appraiser,
to give you an idea of what your
treasure is worth. So let's pretend somebody
sends you a picture and it happens that
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somebody has something
really super valuable.
What happens after that? Alright. Well, that's cool.
Good question because therein is where I may
be able to help you sell your valuable
item through my contacts and auction affiliations.
If you've got a Picasso,
then maybe I could tell you that it's
a Picasso.
Then let me represent it at auction for
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a small percentage fee. And I'm talking on
a Picasso. I'll give you half a percent
of 1%, whatever,
for a small percentage fee. It's a win
win situation. Let's together travel to Christie's or
Sotheby's auction houses in New York City or
London, and woo hoo. I know that business
well. I know the auction world. All good
to send the door, past all the paperwork
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and all the things you have to do
and then we can live it up because
if you got a Picasso, that's wonderful.
Now, yeah, I gotta tell people this. People
want, they think I'm a buyer. They think
that I'm just gonna
do this for anybody and everything. If you
want an insurance appraisal of your treasure,
then that would cost you. Because
if I have to write something down and
send it to your insurance adjusters and all
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the right forms and format,
That's different. But actually these days, I rarely
do court appointed or insurance appraisals of chattel
because,
I'm available just to give you free text
and verbal appraisals of your goodies. Do you
ever buy the items you appraise?
No. That's the short answer. There are clearly
ethical issues with that. In fact, treat your
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valuable channel like you would with your health.
Get a second opinion.
People often think that I'm a buyer. They
seem, that guy, he's can appraise treasure. They
think I'm a buyer. I rarely buy anything
or purchase anything
anymore. I really don't. I have divested of
my goodies. I'm getting up there in age.
I've had enough treasures, and I don't want
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to be the ghost in the graveyard holding
on to the most loot.
As you know, it's fun to frequent antique
stores and thrift shops, etcetera,
especially when you are out on when we're
out on the road. We've been doing that,
right? But goodness gracious, there are so many
more important things to collect dear doctor. You
know, like love
and friendships and travel and good wine. Right?
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Yeah. Now what is the oldest thing you
have ever owned or evaluated?
Well, Rhys Simon ranks us there.
Keeping him on his toes. Oldest thing I've
ever owned is a Gladius.
Gladius from the second century AD. The Gladius
is the name of the short sword that
the common infantry Roman soldier would carry. I've
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appraised,
ancient Greek and Egyptian antiquities. Absolutely.
Never owned it, but I've appraised them, which
leads me to a funny story, if I
may. Okay? Well, please do. Well, I I'll
make this quick because I see we're getting
kinda close to where we need to kind
of Oh, wait a couple minutes. People contact
me quite often and say, hey, Jacques. I
have a very, very, very old item I
need to have appraised.
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So while they're telling me that, I'm hearing
very, very, very. If you say very, very,
very old to me, I'm thinking Egyptian times.
But then, guess what? They say, oh, no.
It's very, very old item is a set
of McDonald's
glassware from 1974
with
Ronald McDonald's face emblazoned on them. I mean,
jeez.
Gee whiz. Really, seriously.
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Now, okay. Speaking of old things though, how
old does something have to be to be
an antique? How old does okay.
That's a good question. Technically, an antique has
to be 100 years old. I know. That
is not my opinion. Rather, that is the
established
rules of regulation of trade and tariffs on
things like that on the international custom agencies
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like the US Customs Service, which states that
an item must be at least 100
years old to be considered an antique.
Other words,
that would describe valuable
chattel is if it's not a 100 years
old, then you could call it if it's
75 years old, say, just call it vintage
or you'd call it a collectible.
Okay. Now what is the most valuable thing
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you have ever owned? Oh, my goodness.
I have owned many treasures that were valuable.
I've owned Tiffany pieces. If you ever see
anything marked on nice glassware that says LCT,
contact me immediately. That's Louis Comfort Tiffany. That's
a signed piece. Paintings have sold for hundreds
of thousands of dollars that I have owned,
after I sold them for tens of thousands.
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Years later, they'd surface and sell for 100,000.
Twenty years ago, I owned a 1955
Porsche
three pre March
c Porsche that I sold for under $50,000,
and which today, twenty years later, is well
worth over, get this,
half a million. $500,000.
Oh, well. You'll win some and you lose
some. Yeah. It's also twenty years. Yep. I've
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also
owned exquisite German Meissen, hard paced porcelain from
the early seventeen hundreds. Woah. That's world famous
chattel. Yeah. We've got that at home. But
you know the most valuable thing that I
own today, dear doctor? What?
Your heart
and your affections.
Thank you.
What's the hardest things for you to appraise?
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The hardest thing for me to appraise, hands
down, is the oriental stuff. Oh my goodness.
Asian chattel, like pottery, ceramic figurines, and vases.
Why?
Unfortunately, forgeries are all too common. And it's
just,
not a new thing. Forgeries have been going
on for a long, long time. I just
kind of don't get oriental stuff. It's too
much foreign intervention, I guess.
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I've been blatantly fooled,
I'll admit it, too many times by incredibly
detailed and perfect fakes and impostors.
And it's not always just oriental pottery. How
do you tell if something is a forgery?
Well, most of the time, it's just an
intuition or something does not have the right
feel to it. I've seen enough stuff, looked
at it, felt it. Great story is that
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is recently one of our friends Yeah. Clubbedo
Yeah. Came in, with a 300
year old silver Chinese coin that once it
had the it was beautiful with a square
hole in the center,
as many Chinese coins do. It was so
rare and nearly perfect. It was worth, really,
the books I was looking up on was,
say, dollars 250,000
and more.
It looked
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completely authentic.
It had all the right marks on it.
It had the right shape and the look
to it.
But when I finally got it out of
its little case and held it in my
hand and rubbed it between my thumb and
index,
I noticed there was slight sharpness around the
rim of that square peg hole. It was
a little bit light also.
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It but that that sharpness, it was be
something that would you would never feel that.
You'd never be rough because this thing was
a 300 year old,
coin. It's a possibility. Yeah. The the symbols
and monetary numbers were just too perfect.
Right. And with that, I surmised that it
had been manufactured and forged, I'm gonna say,
within the past fifty years. Mhmm. It just
didn't have the feel.
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That,
I felt it should have. So,
99.9%
of three hundred year old coins will be
well worn. Right. I was just just feeling
it. Bummer. Yeah. What a bummer indeed. And
this leads me to a final subject. I
see we gotta we just gotta get rocking
here almost to the end of the show.
That is having to be the bearer of
bad news to folks. I don't like talking
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about that part but people become so imbued
and excited about what they think is a
super valuable item that they own. People watch
Antiques Roadshow on the television all the time,
right? And see what these priceless treasures people
have discovered or own.
But people are also intrigued
by those people
that are told by an appraiser
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that their item is not valuable, that they
think is so valuable. And they show that
on TV too. Or as a forgery or
is essentially worthless. I get this all the
time. People
want to believe
that they have what they own is an
authentic
priceless treasure. So when I go to people's
homes and I see that they are enamored
with, let's say, an antique chair. Okay? Let's
just call it an antique. And they think
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that chair is worth $100,000,
I'm the guy that has to give them
bad news that actually it's a knockoff
and it's worth maybe a $100.
And you talk about deflation.
It's it's not a good not a good
vibe in that room when I tell them
that. But hey, I can always tell them,
and I usually do, that if they really
love it and it makes them happy, then
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that alone is worth $1,000,000.
I call it happiness over wealth. Well, it's
so true.
How do people get a hold of you?
Alright.
If people wanna get a hold of me,
yeah, grab a pen and paper and write
down this information. I'll give you my phone
number,
amongst other things. Again, I get dozens of
folks weekly sending me pictures of their treasures
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for free appraisals.
Be smart. Get it appraised, either by me
or somebody else.
It's free, and I've got a lifetime of
great references to back it up. First off,
my Facebook name and phone number is a
great way to message me on Facebook,
and that is Jacques Kepner, and that's j
a c
q u e E s. Kepner, k e
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p as in Paul and then n e
r. Kepner, Jean Kepner. Look me up on
Facebook and you could message me or friend
me and then we could go from there.
My cell phone number, here it is. I'll
put it out there because I prefer cell
phone, texting over anything. It's better. It's quicker.
It's more efficient. I check it all the
time. It's always on me blah blah blah.
No. The Facebook messaging is not Yeah. I
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don't get notified all the time for that.
My cell phone number is (510)
881-3679.
So it's (510)
881-3679.
People say, you hang yourself, man. You're giving
out your number.
I get enough scam calls anyways every time
I figure it out.
So text me. Text me. Say, mister Kepner
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or Jacques, just,
I've heard about you, and we'd love to
have you would you be interested in talking
to us about what we think is a
treasure? So there is that. You could also
email me at what it's worth Jacques. Jacques,
what it's worth
Jacques,allundercase,@gmail.com.
Okay? What's it worth
Jacques? Yep. That's a long one. (510)
(51:36):
881-3679
is most of the best way or just
Facebook me and message me. And I'm always
happy. I'm excited. And maybe you have that
Picasso out there. Maybe you got original Persian
word. They know there's three or four missing
copies of the American
And it will be on this coast line
somewhere. It could be. But remember people migrated
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to California years ago
and a big big ridge of the West
Coast and so lots of treasures came with
them. Yeah. Very cool. Thank you. You are
more than welcome. Thank you. That's true. Boy,
we got six minutes for what are we
gonna do now? Oh, we got okay. Yeah.
Fun time corner.
Woo hoo. What have we got today? We
got some good jokes. We got some great
(52:18):
quotes. I really like the quotes you got.
I I sent you most of them. Did
you get them? I hope. Yeah. Alright. Let
me start then. Okay.
Quote. The antiques are the epitome of reclaim,
recycle, and reuse. Oh, is that not true?
Right? They are the epitome of reclaim, recycle,
reuse. We should all do that. We should
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all try to reclaim and recycle, reuse instead
of use, use, use, use, use, and produce,
produce, produce, and then throw away, throw away,
throw away, like bottles.
One
more. I like things that have survived the
test of time in the nooks and crannies
of the past. Oh, that is That is
great. That is magical. I love things that
have survived the test of time in the
nooks and crannies of the past. Hey. Oh,
(53:01):
darn it. I already told you that one.
I asked doctor Gigi this morning how I
looked, and she said,
duh, with your eyes.
The medical approach? Yeah. Yeah. Alright. Give us
another.
If an antique makes you smile and gives
you pleasure and pride,
isn't its value priceless?
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Oh, so true. That's Oh. That's it. That's
what I tell those people. They go, hey.
If you love this thing and it's part
of your family and you think it's $100,000
then it's priceless, okay?
A young boy asks his father,
do you know what a solar eclipse is?
The father answers, no, sun.
No, sun.
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You get it. You get it. I got
it. I don't think I don't think Ray
Simon got it though.
Okay. What was even more important than the
first telephone?
What?
A second telephone. You need to call too.
You need to He
right. That's a good one. Yeah. That's a
good one. Okay. What else do you got?
A great thing about antiques
is realizing that you can breathe new life
(54:06):
into an old object. Right on. That is
so cool. You know, when you discover we
buy we occasionally buy an old lamp or
we'll buy a chair or something. We buy
something at the thrift store or Craigslist or
whatever. And it's fun to reinvent
those pieces and breathe new life into them.
Right. What do you call a French man
who has been attacked by a cat? Meow.
(54:28):
What do you call? What? Claude.
We got over four and a half minutes
left of this. We better slow it down.
I know it. Alright. Antiquing is all about
the hunt, the thrill,
and the excitement of uncovering things that you
never expected to find. Oh, so true. Right?
When you the excitement. There's excitement about going
(54:50):
out when you especially when you're on the
road, you're traveling, and you get to go
into a new town or city and out
in the country and country and you see
the sciences, antiques, man, is that ever fun.
Right? Right. When a Wynn or a thrift
store and you go I like the ones
where you can breathe new life in it.
You change the color. You change whatever you
do with it. You personally put a Gatorade
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or something on there to make it make
it harder than my Gatorade. I put the
antlers on it. Yeah. I was gonna bring
I was gonna bring, but I thought it
might scare, Tom Bozek.
And Linda Linda might not like it. Hey.
Do you know how I make an apple
turnover?
How? Duh. I roll it down a hill.
You're actually a good cook, so you could
(55:32):
make
a apple turnover cooking thingy. Isn't that called
apple turnover? Yep.
And then teak is anything old with class.
Oh, I love that one too. That's so
cool. Yeah. Right? Mhmm. Alright. What do you
say when you notice a chicken
looking at a salad?
(55:53):
I don't know.
You say chicken Caesar salad.
Oh.
Chicken Cheese. Cheese salad. Salad. Chicken Caesar salad.
Yeah. Okay. That one bonks. Yeah. That's pretty
good.
I'll get one off here. Never forget that
the best antiques
are dear old friends.
That's my car. Right? Yeah. I have a
hard time getting a little bit. Hey. Why
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are dogs not allowed in bars? Why? Because
they can't control their liquor.
Hey. I went to a really emotional wedding
last week.
Yep. Even the cake was in tears.
Okay. That's sad.
A sign seen outside a country store. Oh,
what? What did it say? We buy junk.
(56:35):
We sell antiques.
It's kinda true. We don't have some some
cases. Your your antique stores that you like.
Hey. I,
I finally quit drinking for good. Mhmm. Now
I'm just drinking for evil.
Okay. Listen to this. This is good for
me. Forget about facial wrinkles.
(56:57):
They're just antique smiles. They're antique smiles.
You know, here's one I like, one of
these quotes that you have, nothing haunts us
as much as the antiques we didn't buy.
Right. Right? They they go out That you
still say that sometimes. Yeah. I saw this
in Missouri
fifty years ago. I should have bought Oh,
I should have. Something. Yeah. You still something.
Say that. I love older things that people
(57:19):
have used and cherished because they have personality,
character,
and soul. Alright. So Yep.
What else you got? It is strange that
I like going Now is it is it
strange?
Is it strange Right. That I like going
to flea markets more than the mall? Oh,
that's a classic one. Well, we're good. We
don't have a mall. We have flea markets,
(57:39):
so that's good. Antiquing is nothing more than
embracing the elegance of the past. Yeah. So
true.
Alright. What else? You got a couple more?
Less is more, but antiques
are forever.
Right on. Hey.
You know, I'd be a morning person doctor
if morning started at 1PM.
That's a funny one.
(58:00):
Alright. Well Okay. We're done. Do you have
one more? No. You I thought you had
one more quote. Nope. I don't. Okay.
But you have a joke. Alright. How do
you make
you see it? Why don't you ask me
that one? Hey. How do you make an
idiot say how? How?
Oh, that was for me. I thought it
Duh.
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Doctor. Gigi and I have your coasts
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in that we do not have a guest,
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Rather, doctor Gigi Reed and I will be
following a fun path
of exploring multiple topics and issues. And these
kind of shows, which happen irregularly,
are always some of the most fun to
do and produce. Right. Today's show happens to
be our eighty first episode of this Doc
and Jacques show. And over the course of
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all these shows, we have hosted well over,
I mean, conservatively, 160
people. Oh, yeah.
Interesting, entertaining people who make a difference in
our coastal communities. Above all else, we wish
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it. So,
it's allowed us your listenership has allowed us
to let the show grow,
beyond our wildest dreams. Right.
Yes. So thank you so much for your
support and input, dear listeners.
I will lead off our little chatting chair
(02:36):
section Chatting chairs. That's us. Chatting chairs.
Of the show
hour with some necessary for life trivia
or unnecessary, really. No. It's necessary because it's
the air you breathe and the water you
drink. Jackie and I were discussing what would
be fun subjects to explore, and we came
up with what
is air
air, a I r.
(02:58):
K? Yes. Indeed. For self inflationary
scientists
like me
Right. I found out these amazing facts.
Air
mainly consists of nitrogen, 78%,
and oxygen, 21%
Uh-huh. And argon, slight amount there, along with
a few other trace amounts of gases like
carbon dioxide and neon.
(03:19):
Yes. I said neon.
Now I know, doctor, why I leave such
bright imprints on people. I still don't get
that. I'm a legend in my own in
my own neon sparkling mind. You see? Can
you top that, dear doctor? Oh, I shall
try and probably succeed.
Let's
let's start with the nitrogen, almost 78%.
(03:41):
Right? Well, 78 and some
square ones in there.
Let's ask the obvious question.
Why the heck do we have so much
nitrogen? Yeah. And what are we doing with
it? And
wouldn't it be better to just have a
bunch of oxygen
because when people think when you say air,
they immediately go just oxygen. They just think
(04:02):
it's but it's not. It's by far nitrogen.
And you yeah. Exactly. How I know? So
the short answer
is that we would be on the dead
side if we had much more oxygen around
us.
So the primary advantage of the nitrogen is
actually
to dilute the oxygen,
making it safer for life.
(04:22):
Interesting. Oxygen is essential for respiration,
but a pure oxygen atmosphere would be highly
flammable
and dangerous therefore.
Mhmm. Nitrogen acts as a buffer, reducing the
risk of fire and other oxidation reaction.
So, additionally, nitrogen is crucial, very important for
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the so called nitrogen cycle,
which provides nitrogen to plants and is essential
for the formation of amino acids and proteins,
the building blocks of life. Woah. That's really
cool because I thought nitrogen was just fertilizer.
What?
So does that mean we still have to
(05:05):
make our amino acids? We still make our
we have some essential amino acids, but, yes,
we do our make most of our amino
acids, and we also make our genetic material,
which contains
a bunch of nitrogen. Woah. I thought so.
So now I know that I'm not
just a bunch of bull fertilizer.
Alright. Here's a fun fact.
(05:27):
Nitrogen is sometimes used to inflate tires because
it looks it leaks
through the tire casing. It's much slower,
than oxygen Right. Which helps it maintain consistent
air pressure. I wonder if they can do
that here and probably wouldn't explode either. Right?
Okay. Not that tires explode all the time.
Yeah. So let's go back to the oxygen.
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Oxygen. Oxygen at an atmospheric
concentration of almost 21%
since
cells can
use it and make water out of it.
And doing so, they gain energy. So that's
a
reduction reaction. A reduction. They reduce the chemical
of its,
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energy, basically. K. Oxygen is essential to all
animals. Yep. All of us.
And at a higher concentration
acid before oxygen is a poison because we
cannot neutralize the so called, get ready, reactive
oxygen
species
Oh. Or spectrum,
r o s. R o s. Okay. 21%
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oxygen is ideal for most life.
We have the neutralizing agents that can deal
with it and
and and can't deal with those. You can't
have the higher concentration.
Otherwise, it's bad. Okay. But remember those cocktail
bars that we used to have, see popping
up a few years ago? They're real popular.
The ones where you'd go in and get
on a face mask and sip pure oxygen.
(06:51):
What was that all about? And how could
those people survive? Like like booze, pure oxygen
would be bad for us. Right? Right. Good
point. Yeah. Yeah. Alright. Yeah. The oxygen bars
actually deliver
oxygen at about 40%. Oh, they're ripping it
off by adding air to it. Darn it.
Just like bling. Yes. I don't know if
a 100% is just 40%, and 40% is
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considered
safe for short times.
It does, however, increase the likelihood of us
making these reactive oxygen species, which are bad
for us. Right? Okay. Let's move on to
Okay. Let's move on to argon. Argon. About
1% of it is in the air. Argon
is a noble gas. It does not interact
with anything. But I do. My nickname was
(07:35):
King Argon, and I was so full of
noble gas when I was younger.
So tell us more about argon, dear doctor.
Argon, the noble gas, is a byproduct of
the radioactive
decay of mostly potassium. There is a Sound
good. The radioactive potassium out there, and it
accumulates at only 1%, almost 1%
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because this is how it accumulates.
It doesn't react with anything. It doesn't react
further. It's just there.
So it hangs out in our air because
it doesn't react with anything, doesn't decay further
or anything.
Now other things hanging out in the air
Like? Like carbon dioxide
Yeah. Methane
(08:19):
Uh-oh. Smell, smell, nitrous oxide,
ozone.
Those are compounds that trap the
Earth's heat and contribute to the greenhouse effect
Oh, yeah. For us to be so nice
and warm Which warms the planet? Which warms
then the planet. Right on. And fun numbers,
the average person breathes about 13 pints of
(08:39):
air per minute. That's one more pint than
I drink every hour.
How much is a pint? I don't know.
Don't ask me this question. I know, but
I'd like to Like almost a pound or
something. Yeah. And it takes around, we take
around 17,000
breaths per day. That's a lot. It's amazing.
Our lungs exchange oxygen from inhaled
air for carbon dioxide.
(09:01):
They exchange it. On average, people consume about
100 gallons of that pure oxygen daily, but
it's diluted as you It's diluted 20%. And
also, I wanna point something out. Right. The
oxygen from the air
that
the plants
put out and we breathe in
is not the oxygen of the c o
(09:23):
two. So oxygen is o two and c
o two is c o two, but those
oxygens are not related. The oxygen we're breathing
in, we turn into water, h two o.
I know that. And the carbon dioxide
that we've cleaned out, c o two is
the leftover from the food we're eating. I
find that spectacular. That is amazing. Okay, doc.
(09:44):
That was fun and interesting. There is, nothing
more exciting than air.
Okay. Wake man. Alright. Can we now move
on to something I think which is much
more deep?
It's in a deep pool of water and
bold and amazing exhilarating like
water. Water? H two 0. H two 0.
Yeah. Yeah. We did talk about H two
(10:06):
o. Alright. So you're right. Scientifically,
water is an amazing thing. Yes.
So as you remember, you and I are
made up mainly of water, and the world
is covered mainly with water. With water. Yep.
And we cannot survive without water. Water. Pretty
pretty amazing. So, yes, water is crucial for
(10:26):
our world, to our world, in our world,
in our health and welfare. Okay. Well, tell
me more about water. My German born,
multilingual,
patent holding research scientist and medical doctor
hit me with your best shots. Yeah. I
didn't really do all that with water, but
I'll tell you something.
Water is a molecule consisting of two hydrogen
atoms
(10:47):
covalently
bonded, that's the strongest bond, to one oxygen
atom, hence,
h two o. Got it. So many chemicals
out there can consist exist at seven different
stages. Okay. Like? So water can exist
as a solid, and we call it Ice.
Ice.
(11:08):
Not the kind of ice that's being out
there arresting people right now. No. I see
e. Ice. Ice cream.
And a liquid, and then it's called Water
vapor distillation?
Water. Right. A water good. Liquid water.
It also can be a gas, and then
it's called water vapor. Oh, yeah. You're right.
(11:28):
Water freezes at zero degrees Which is? Celsius.
To
Yeah. So that's how zero degrees was defined.
When does water freeze? Oh, god. Oh, this
is our zero point. That was That was
the benchmark.
What about boiling? Which happens to be at
32 degrees Fahrenheit. Right? Which is not a
good number,
but it's the number. And, yeah, when it
(11:50):
boils at a 100 degrees centigrade, that was
the other benchmark.
That's what you you Germans and Europeans and
most people in the world know, but the
centigrade Just about anybody else. Yes. That's two
twelve. That's another weird number. Right? So two
twelve degrees Fahrenheit, and that's at standard pressure,
which means,
it's different when you go higher up in
(12:10):
the mountains. It boils a little k. Earlier.
Cool. So usually, water also is very has
a low compressibility.
Whatever that means. That means you have a
hard time compressing water.
And if you compare it with other liquids,
they're easily compressed. So that's another anomaly anomaly.
K. Water is a polar
molecule,
(12:31):
meaning
meaning it has a slight negative charge on
the oxygen side and a slight
positive charge on the hydrogen side. The hydrogen
two o. Okay. Gotcha. Yeah. So it that
one makes it very cool actually to deal
with. The polarity contributes to
a lot of different things.
For example, it's a very good solvent. Water
(12:54):
is a good solvent. It's a very good
solvent. Otherwise, I wanna brush my teeth.
And it has a high surface tension. High
surface tension. Yeah. So if you have ever
seen Water Pond and then those little water
walker,
little spider looking things, they walk over, usually
only because of the water tension being so
high. Water walkers on Star Trek, I saw.
(13:15):
Okay. Okay. Water can dissolve more substances
than any
other liquid, including
sulfuric acid. I get it. Because I use
sulfuric
acid to brush my teeth, but last night,
it didn't turn out too well.
When I drink, you know, I sometimes get
high,
like that surface tension too. You know? I
surface You get high in? Yeah. I know.
(13:36):
It's that good my drink, I sometimes get
high surface tension. Okay. Alright.
I'm probably more about the polarity. What is
this polarity stuff? What is it that allows
it to dissolve?
Yeah? Whatever. Okay. That one is Speaking of
water, do you know what happens when I
get undressed in the bedroom, dear doctor? What?
In the bathroom or in the bedroom? No.
(13:57):
What
okay. Let's go back.
Do you know what happens when I get
undressed in the bathroom? Oh, what? The shower
gets turned off.
I heard Ray Simon and Tom Bozek laughing
at that one earlier.
Well, at least something does. Right? Are you
(14:17):
stuck in about me when I No. I'm
just saying it could be the faucet or
something.
Water is also relatively high in density, meaning
it is
very dense, the little the little, atmosphere turns
into further. Ice.
So that's what you would think. If it's
very dense, it's on ice. But guess what?
It is more dense when it is at
(14:40):
four degrees Celsius.
That's the highest density. So
solid form is actually
less dense as liquid form,
which is very cool. That's why ice floats.
That's why ice floats. Right? It's lighter on
the like screws and bolts and things like
that to my,
tray to make it sink and trick people,
but it never worked.
(15:02):
Wow. And you were a magician Yeah. At
some point. That's a pretty good one. So
and and we know when we put our
water bottles in the freezer or when you
put a can of soda in the freezer,
it explodes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So water expands
when it freezes. By nearly what? By 10%
or so. But still,
if it were at four degrees, it is
(15:23):
the
densest.
Nearly three percent of all water on Earth
is locked in ice caps and glaciers.
Therefore,
90%
of the world's supply of fresh water is
located in the polar regions. The Polar Region.
Interesting fact. Yeah. Nice. So we already said
(15:43):
that
another recap, the density anomaly of ice is
crucial for the life on Earth.
It allows that the lakes and ponds do
not freeze from the bottom up, but from
the top. Down.
So when you have the ice shoals floating
on the water, it insulates the water below,
(16:03):
Oh. And it prevents it from freezing solid
and destroying all life that is down there.
So it supports the aquatic Oh, very interesting.
Cool. Alright. I got some great ones. 97%
of the world's water is actually salty or
otherwise undrinkable.
Oh, no. That leaves just 1%
of fresh water for all of humanity's
(16:25):
agricultural, residential,
manufacturing,
and personal
hygiene
needs. Wait. Where are the 2%, my salesman?
Oh, yeah. Shoot.
She's always pointing out these little inaccuracies.
I get away with them when I'm talking
fast. Oh, my goodness. The oceans help regulate
the Earth's temperature.
That's another tidbit.
(16:45):
Yep. Since we're what? Mainly Since we Yeah.
Are mainly water, it helps regulate our temperature
too. Cool. Right? Water carries nutrients and oxygens
to cells
as in the plasma. Right? Our blood plasma.
It cushions joints as in joint fluid.
Oh, that type. Okay. Protects organs and tissues
(17:06):
as in whatever serous fluid we have, for
example. And it removes the waste
as in pee.
75%
of the human brain is rota. Did you
say what?
75%?
Yeah. Well, guess what? I'm more like 95%.
Mhmm.
Shockeyeboo,
we know. Okay. Well, man, that isn't a
(17:29):
smart thing to say.
A person can live for weeks on end
without food, but only about a week without
water.
Wow. About five True. 100,000,000,000
gallons of water are used in The United
States per No way. Day. No way. Way.
Way. And And much of it goes to
agriculture in America's hydroelectric
(17:51):
facility.
That's right. It's just pumping out those huge
dams that pump out trillions of gallons, millions
of gallons. Yeah.
Wow. Alright. Well, I know that Vegas uses
up most of that.
Talk about neon abuse. Neon abuse is pretty
I mean, we're talking water right now. I
found out that the average swimming pool uses
25,000
gallons of water. And guess what country has
(18:12):
the most swimming pools?
Who could it be? Maybe America? Maybe it
is not his day. We are so excessive.
We're crazy about that. Wow. Maybe not in
Crescent City or Brookings or Harbor. That's true.
Yeah.
A little bit cold in here. Yeah. Eighty
percent of all illness in developing countries is
water related. Oh, what do they call that
(18:33):
one disease where you get,
cholera? No. Choleraized? Labborne. Yeah. Waterborne? Yeah. Okay.
See, I know things. Oh, you do know.
So unclean water equals
unhealthiness.
Right? K. Over seventy five percent of the
world's population lives in the driest
half of the planet. Wow. Put that together.
Put that in your smoke and pipe it.
(18:54):
Right. So more of the world is the
population, heavy population. In the driest half of
the planet. So that's why the water is
easily
made dirty and because you don't have that
much water to deal with, so you have
to be reusing the same water
or not washing your hands
so much. Maybe that's why Possibly. It happens.
(19:17):
Okay. Lastly, the world,
consumes
billions of bottles of water every day. We
are so addicted to those stupid Yeah. I
have one right now. They're everywhere. Right? Bottles
made from petrochemical
plastics, and
they are not that healthy. Yeah. We have
spent many
trillions
of money's,
(19:38):
dollars on bottled water. I mean, worldwide,
trillions and quadrillions of Yeah. People buying bottled
water. Now get this. K. If we took
about one third
of that money spent on bottled water Every
per year. Per year. One third of the
total of the whole world Yeah. We could
collectively build hundreds
(20:00):
of desalination
facilities,
take this water out of the seawater
along Earth's coastlines
to quench the thirst of every human alive.
I was shocked at some of the statistics
showing
how much of the world, I think over
half the world, does not have access to
clean water in there. Right? I mean, how
many people live in the dry in the
(20:21):
dry part? Carry the water be but if
we just took one third of all the
money that the world spends on
bottled water in one year Yeah. We'd be
able to build hundreds of very costly expensive
desalination,
facilities around the world. Man, and we'd we'd
quench it forever. There would be no They
doubt yeah. Until they break down. But, yeah,
(20:42):
it would be worth a try for sure.
Now we went the other last week, ten
days ago, twelve days ago, we went up
we went up the canyon,
and we got Oh, okay. Water from the
spring,
which is Yes. Fan flippantastic.
It has no
it's it has been tested several times according
(21:04):
to a source,
and it has been deemed very good drinking
water. And even I like that water.
Water. It has no chlorine in it. It's
a spring. Right? And we have filled It's
about 15 miles past Hialuchi, but you kinda
wind up. You go over those two bridges
like you're gonna go over the Smith River
and down towards Stout Grove. Yeah. You turn
(21:25):
left and go, what, 12 miles. About 12
miles. Yeah. That's where Creek
Bridge. Yeah. Stevens Bridge. About there. And there's
just a pipe just a pipe coming out.
And while we we had, like, 20 gallons.
21 gallons we filled up. We filled up.
But we had a couple of five gallon
containers and things like that. Right. But it
was amazing. And it was and the water
(21:46):
is really? Amazing. It really so there is
still good water out there. Yeah. We're we're
blessed. We're blessed in this area and, with
our clean waters and our clean rivers like
the Chetco and
Smith
and the Windchuck and the Right. Oge. We
have All the ones that come in to
Eureka and what? I mean, we're just Klamath.
We have Klamath. Yeah. We have great rivers.
(22:07):
And,
I mean, we have that's where the salmon
is, right? But don't we aren't we supposed
to have the cleanest river?
Yeah. I mean, the Smith River is one
of the cleanest rivers ranked third, I think,
in the world. In the world. Always consistently
the clean cleanest river in America. You'd think
that's up in Colorado someplace. Right? Right.
Someplace, some mountain top, but nope.
(22:28):
It is not. It is right here in
our own backyard. You live in a wonderful
place.
Speaking of fresh water Yeah? Americans
flush
6,000,000,000
gallons per day through their toilets. 6,000,000,000
gallons every day in America. Fine. Yeah. Okay.
So that was better and more fluid than
I thought it would be. Thank you for
(22:48):
that interesting intake on some of that
wonderful stuff that we just discussed called Yeah.
Air Air and water. And water. Okay. I'm
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What? Because I want the audience to learn
more about your past
where I don't even know if I'm gonna
start this. But you were
an antique
store owner and appraiser of art and old
stuff
and also a California licensed auctioneer.
Do you wanna start telling us about that
before we go to the break then? Go
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ahead. Well, I I gotta say that I
was fortunate. I'm 67 now, but I was
fortunate I was raised in a great, great
home full of antiquities.
My parents were
major
collectors.
They were all over the place. Are they
hoarders or collectors? No, they were. They. Mom
only had to find the stuff and we
would I mean, I got my first job
at 10 years old working at Tate auction,
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Tate's auction down in the Peninsula of San
Francisco. And then later, I was a weekly
feature at all the Butterfield and Butterfield
auctions happening in San Francisco. We'd spent our
summers traveling to Missouri where the auction culture
was huge. And man, did we
just would bring back
truckloads
of antiquities because
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after retiring from a San Francisco corporate world
job,
my father
immediately opened up an antique store. The store
was down in Burlingame, 15 miles south of
San Francisco. And this served as a gateway
into the world of antiquities and appraisals
for me. And then
just a few years after graduating from college,
I took a few other jobs, did this
and that, but I
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I always came back to antiques antiques. I
love them. I had a great store in
Birmingham
to find these things, fix them up, and
put them back out. I took the necessary
test, I think in the early eighties or
was it yes, early eighties.
And I became a I paid all these
fees and I became actually took a very
hard test and became a California state licensed
auctioneer.
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And then a few years after that, I
was running a chain of antique stores and
importing vintage
chattel
in the Bay Area for sale
at auction. That, in a nutshell, was my
career, and I've done it for over
fifty
years now. Yeah. I was doing it actually
when I was 14
when dad retired.
I Well, don't give everything away already. We
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go through. So let me do this part
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Alright. Where was I was talking about? You
can go on. I did for fifty years.
That's what I did for but Yeah. I
wanna say I slowly eased out of auctioning
and retired from owning brick and mortar. I
had five shops at one time between Sacramento
and San Francisco,
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down the Peninsula. It was kinda spread out
all over. Mhmm. I had these brick and
mortar businesses in the late nineties.
I closed them all down. Instead, at that
point, I focused in and specialized in the
antique art
and vintage and collectible appraisal business, kind of
what they do on TV's Antique Roadshow. Very
popular show on PBS. Dang. Yeah. Even I've
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seen that. When it comes to antiques and
treasures, there are so many categories.
Is it over overwhelming,
or is it not? How can you come
to know all those many different things? Alright.
Well, the short answer to that is I
have to know just a little bit
about so many of these things.
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Just think about this short abbreviated list I'm
gonna rattle off to you. Yeah. There's paintings,
rugs,
pottery,
cars, toys, clocks,
all art,
jewelry,
coins,
military and war stuff,
firearms, paper ephemera,
radio LPs,
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film, telephone, sports stuff, cards, ivory, nautical stuff.
Everything musical, a lot there. All types and
styles of furniture,
even more there.
Dolls and books and comics and all types
and styles of glass and ceramics and pottery,
statues, bronze and brass,
medical stuff, oriental stuff, political stuff, Indian items,
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Tiffany, textiles,
clothing,
farm items, tools. Oh my goodness. It goes
on
and on and on. Geez. Yeah. It's a
lot. Wow. So honestly,
how can you know about so many of
these things?
That's easy. I do not.
Seriously. Like that. Maybe AI knows it. But
again, I know just enough about many things
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to have a general idea of what the
items are
and their approximate values.
And where did you learn so much? Well,
again, that childhood upbringing in auctions and going
to auctions and living in the auction atmosphere
and and selling them, getting their hands on,
following my dad into homes. Yeah. Doing that
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stuff. I learned from the school of literally
hard knocks where mainly
I was privy since that young man into
venturing into thousands, literally thousands of estates, homes,
and businesses
all over that were just full of treasure.
I've seen so many things, but every anyone
that tells you they know it all,
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don't trust them because they don't.
What we use in the industry or we
used to. Now everybody it's changing with the
advent of the phone and and the Internet.
Internet. Yeah. But what we used to use
in the industry was called satellites or people
that knew everything there is to know about
just one
field or one of those genres that I
just mentioned. The divers, not the skimmers,
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You're not the
The diving? Yeah. Yeah. You know about that
stuff. Okay?
They know just one field of or type
of antique or collectible. Like,
I had friends that were pottery mark experts.
Or Pottery marks? What's the mark on the
pottery? Right. Oh, there's silverware. I forgot about
silverware. I'm like, there's so much.
They're rug experts.
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What was a Persian? What was a Turkish?
What was the Indian? I mean, you need
to know all these things and there's huge
money in those old rugs.
Glass, amazing. Just think about how much glassware
there is out there. It's just
staggering.
I had coin, big, big thing on num
what is it called?
Nuministic
collectors that knew their stuff on on coins.
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And then the one I don't even wanna
try to
I forgot. It's I'm rusty. I'm retired.
But stamp collectors Yeah. Stamp experts. Oh, my
goodness. Everybody had their little stamp collection.
Anyways, in a pence. Yeah. They did. Everybody
had a little budget. I would go to
them, and I'd get an approximate evaluation of
the items that needed to be appraised.
Today,
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as in so many other areas as I
just mentioned,
it's been touched by technology.
And things are vastly changing as we speak,
mainly
with the advent of the Internet. And there
are apps now that narrow down so much
of this information floating around and on the
markets, which is both good and bad.
Now how can you still get a good
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deal? Where can you do it? Facebook,
marketplace,
thrift stores, garage sale? Yeah. Those are good
those are good areas to sell them things.
There are deals
that are to be made out there. And
we've all heard about the Picasso painting. For
instance,
just a few years back, it sold at
a garage sale for $50. Yeah. Right. That's
Right. $40,000,000.
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But these stories are in truth pretty rare
and infrequent.
I used to, in my heyday,
price for the Goodwill, Goodwill Industries. I volunteered.
It was a nonprofit entity. Right? It's huge.
Everybody knows Goodwill. Yeah. They had a huge
distribution warehouse just outside of Stockton, California. And
every two weeks, I'd jump in the car
from San Francisco, and I'd head east,
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and I'd go into their vault.
They had this massive warehouse.
And inside this massive warehouse, they had this
vault, this huge inner building within the building,
to do this every two weeks. And I'd
appraise hundreds, thousands of items that they had
stockpiled
from all of their donation facilities.
Now remember, that's how they used to do
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it, whether they still do or not. But
Yeah. Anything you donated to Goodwill in the
past would go to a distribution center and
then get checked out.
They needed to have me to to be
the expert that would check things over prior
to the items being shipped out and then
distributed to their retail stores. So they were
careful about not wanting to pass by. Right.
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Pass by on a Picasso $50. Yeah. Right?
So they had to be What a $50
in
a purse that somebody did. Right? Yep. That's
right. I forgot purses. What a textile and
clothing, partially.
I did that for years.
So at least with a goodwill, 95% of
the time, nothing of extreme value was going
to be overlooked and put out on the
shelves of their thrift stores. I don't know
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what the other ones are doing, but that's
okay. Today,
again, that could all be changed. I don't
know. But like I said, there's plenty of
apps on your phone that give you pretty
much instant appraisals and collectibles and antiques.
What are some of those hot collectibles
right now?
Wow. Okay.
So let's just let me tell you what's
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not collectible. Yeah.
Furniture.
Amazing deals that could be had on furniture
these days. Victorian furniture,
just turn of the century furniture.
It's it's it's bargain basement.
There's beautiful Victorian
dressers that I could buy now
half the cost of what I was paying
for them when I was I used to
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be a direct importer
from England, for instance. Yeah. And I just
it's just collapsed.
Most of glassware and porcelain and dishware is
out. It's cold as last year's pudding.
Prints, everybody call I get so many people
contact me for prints, and I just yawn.
I just so oh, I got a print.
I got you know, it's a Ducks Unlimited
(37:25):
print. And it's like,
it's $50
if try to get it. Right? You see
them at the thrift stores for $20 and
you see them there week after week. Because
I think, this is my opinion, today's younger
populace,
they want functionability
and they're minimalist.
Yeah. Really, my kids are all I walk
in their house
far from the house that I grew up
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in with everything, all the wall space taken.
There's like nothing on the walls. The kids
today, in fact, they don't want anything much
bigger than what they could fit in their
hands, like their phones. Right? Yeah. So like,
trading cards of all kinds are super hot
commodity. Right? They're small. They're small. Right. You
can switch them out. You can put them
behind your phone in the in the glove
compartment. Right. Well There we go. Lots of
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people know you from the Instagram or Facebook
post when you offer
free text and verbal appraisals
for art and antiques.
Why
do you do that and where's the catch?
Well, first first off, no no strings attached.
People,
I'll tell you right now. I put it
out there on the on the word. There's
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no strings attached. Free means free. Just send
me some
good, I mean, good, predicate,
unblurred,
clear Unblurred. Pictures of your treasure
and give me some history about that treasure
and maybe some of the dimensional notes about
it. If it's a if it's a table,
tell me how tall it is, how wide
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it is. If it's a chair, is it
a baby's chair? Is that a mid chair?
I can't tell from pictures, but give me
good history and dimensional notes about it. And
then guess what? I could text you free
appraisal over the phone. Zero catch. No problem
whatsoever. I love doing this, in fact, because
it keeps
my brain fresh and young.
Because I know Chattel. I know chattel very
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well. Yeah. You know. You mentioned chattel before.
What is chattel? Chattel is a herd that
says
Right? Oh, that's cattle.
I'm sorry. No.
Chattel is everything
inside an estate. So when I go into
estate, everything inside that, it's everything that could
be physically removed in or out of a
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dwelling, technically. Mhmm. It's not the house itself.
That's not what I I praise. Just all
of that personal property. And I mean
everything inside of it. I've been court order
appraiser for years as California state and would
have to go in and decide,
you know,
on a divorce situation, who, what, when, where
goes half and half. And and that's so
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all the chattel is all the antiques in
that house, all the clothing, all the furniture,
the jewelry, the cars,
the toasters, the TVs, computers, everything
within a house is called collectively chattel, c
h a t t e l. Chattel
and real estate are two very distinct animals.
People often think that I am a real
estate appraiser and I am not. And I
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do not appraise
real estate.
I only appraise the chattel, all that stuff
inside the house and not the house itself.
Again, that's real estate.
Now why should people get their things appraised?
Wow. I mean, there's a lot of reasons,
right? People inherit stuff,
from
an aunt that passes away or
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handed down from your parents or maybe you
go up in an attic and you find
something up there then you bring it. Or
maybe you bought something recently at a garage
sale or a yard sale.
Everyone
and everyone, I mean everyone, has some valuable
chattel
in their homes. Do we?
We do. Yeah. We have some very good
chattel. But
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I always ask why not
get it appraised? Remember,
I said that 95%
of the things that I evaluate are just
kind of the
what, regular
collectible chattel. Nothing
spectacular. Yeah. But then
but then big then there is that 5%
that's out there that just might be a
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Picasso or
a $100,000
Persian rug or you can name it. So
I would say just be smart.
Either have me or go to another qualified
appraiser,
to give you an idea of what your
treasure is worth. So let's pretend somebody
sends you a picture and it happens that
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somebody has something
really super valuable.
What happens after that? Alright. Well, that's cool.
Good question because therein is where I may
be able to help you sell your valuable
item through my contacts and auction affiliations.
If you've got a Picasso,
then maybe I could tell you that it's
a Picasso.
Then let me represent it at auction for
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a small percentage fee. And I'm talking on
a Picasso. I'll give you half a percent
of 1%, whatever,
for a small percentage fee. It's a win
win situation. Let's together travel to Christie's or
Sotheby's auction houses in New York City or
London, and woo hoo. I know that business
well. I know the auction world. All good
to send the door, past all the paperwork
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and all the things you have to do
and then we can live it up because
if you got a Picasso, that's wonderful.
Now, yeah, I gotta tell people this. People
want, they think I'm a buyer. They think
that I'm just gonna
do this for anybody and everything. If you
want an insurance appraisal of your treasure,
then that would cost you. Because
if I have to write something down and
send it to your insurance adjusters and all
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the right forms and format,
That's different. But actually these days, I rarely
do court appointed or insurance appraisals of chattel
because,
I'm available just to give you free text
and verbal appraisals of your goodies. Do you
ever buy the items you appraise?
No. That's the short answer. There are clearly
ethical issues with that. In fact, treat your
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valuable channel like you would with your health.
Get a second opinion.
People often think that I'm a buyer. They
seem, that guy, he's can appraise treasure. They
think I'm a buyer. I rarely buy anything
or purchase anything
anymore. I really don't. I have divested of
my goodies. I'm getting up there in age.
I've had enough treasures, and I don't want
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to be the ghost in the graveyard holding
on to the most loot.
As you know, it's fun to frequent antique
stores and thrift shops, etcetera,
especially when you are out on when we're
out on the road. We've been doing that,
right? But goodness gracious, there are so many
more important things to collect dear doctor. You
know, like love
and friendships and travel and good wine. Right?
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Yeah. Now what is the oldest thing you
have ever owned or evaluated?
Well, Rhys Simon ranks us there.
Keeping him on his toes. Oldest thing I've
ever owned is a Gladius.
Gladius from the second century AD. The Gladius
is the name of the short sword that
the common infantry Roman soldier would carry. I've
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appraised,
ancient Greek and Egyptian antiquities. Absolutely.
Never owned it, but I've appraised them, which
leads me to a funny story, if I
may. Okay? Well, please do. Well, I I'll
make this quick because I see we're getting
kinda close to where we need to kind
of Oh, wait a couple minutes. People contact
me quite often and say, hey, Jacques. I
have a very, very, very old item I
need to have appraised.
(44:26):
So while they're telling me that, I'm hearing
very, very, very. If you say very, very,
very old to me, I'm thinking Egyptian times.
But then, guess what? They say, oh, no.
It's very, very old item is a set
of McDonald's
glassware from 1974
with
Ronald McDonald's face emblazoned on them. I mean,
jeez.
Gee whiz. Really, seriously.
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Now, okay. Speaking of old things though, how
old does something have to be to be
an antique? How old does okay.
That's a good question. Technically, an antique has
to be 100 years old. I know. That
is not my opinion. Rather, that is the
established
rules of regulation of trade and tariffs on
things like that on the international custom agencies
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like the US Customs Service, which states that
an item must be at least 100
years old to be considered an antique.
Other words,
that would describe valuable
chattel is if it's not a 100 years
old, then you could call it if it's
75 years old, say, just call it vintage
or you'd call it a collectible.
Okay. Now what is the most valuable thing
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you have ever owned? Oh, my goodness.
I have owned many treasures that were valuable.
I've owned Tiffany pieces. If you ever see
anything marked on nice glassware that says LCT,
contact me immediately. That's Louis Comfort Tiffany. That's
a signed piece. Paintings have sold for hundreds
of thousands of dollars that I have owned,
after I sold them for tens of thousands.
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Years later, they'd surface and sell for 100,000.
Twenty years ago, I owned a 1955
Porsche
three pre March
c Porsche that I sold for under $50,000,
and which today, twenty years later, is well
worth over, get this,
half a million. $500,000.
Oh, well. You'll win some and you lose
some. Yeah. It's also twenty years. Yep. I've
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also
owned exquisite German Meissen, hard paced porcelain from
the early seventeen hundreds. Woah. That's world famous
chattel. Yeah. We've got that at home. But
you know the most valuable thing that I
own today, dear doctor? What?
Your heart
and your affections.
Thank you.
What's the hardest things for you to appraise?
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The hardest thing for me to appraise, hands
down, is the oriental stuff. Oh my goodness.
Asian chattel, like pottery, ceramic figurines, and vases.
Why?
Unfortunately, forgeries are all too common. And it's
just,
not a new thing. Forgeries have been going
on for a long, long time. I just
kind of don't get oriental stuff. It's too
much foreign intervention, I guess.
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I've been blatantly fooled,
I'll admit it, too many times by incredibly
detailed and perfect fakes and impostors.
And it's not always just oriental pottery. How
do you tell if something is a forgery?
Well, most of the time, it's just an
intuition or something does not have the right
feel to it. I've seen enough stuff, looked
at it, felt it. Great story is that
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is recently one of our friends Yeah. Clubbedo
Yeah. Came in, with a 300
year old silver Chinese coin that once it
had the it was beautiful with a square
hole in the center,
as many Chinese coins do. It was so
rare and nearly perfect. It was worth, really,
the books I was looking up on was,
say, dollars 250,000
and more.
It looked
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completely authentic.
It had all the right marks on it.
It had the right shape and the look
to it.
But when I finally got it out of
its little case and held it in my
hand and rubbed it between my thumb and
index,
I noticed there was slight sharpness around the
rim of that square peg hole. It was
a little bit light also.
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It but that that sharpness, it was be
something that would you would never feel that.
You'd never be rough because this thing was
a 300 year old,
coin. It's a possibility. Yeah. The the symbols
and monetary numbers were just too perfect.
Right. And with that, I surmised that it
had been manufactured and forged, I'm gonna say,
within the past fifty years. Mhmm. It just
didn't have the feel.
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That,
I felt it should have. So,
99.9%
of three hundred year old coins will be
well worn. Right. I was just just feeling
it. Bummer. Yeah. What a bummer indeed. And
this leads me to a final subject. I
see we gotta we just gotta get rocking
here almost to the end of the show.
That is having to be the bearer of
bad news to folks. I don't like talking
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about that part but people become so imbued
and excited about what they think is a
super valuable item that they own. People watch
Antiques Roadshow on the television all the time,
right? And see what these priceless treasures people
have discovered or own.
But people are also intrigued
by those people
that are told by an appraiser
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that their item is not valuable, that they
think is so valuable. And they show that
on TV too. Or as a forgery or
is essentially worthless. I get this all the
time. People
want to believe
that they have what they own is an
authentic
priceless treasure. So when I go to people's
homes and I see that they are enamored
with, let's say, an antique chair. Okay? Let's
just call it an antique. And they think
(49:25):
that chair is worth $100,000,
I'm the guy that has to give them
bad news that actually it's a knockoff
and it's worth maybe a $100.
And you talk about deflation.
It's it's not a good not a good
vibe in that room when I tell them
that. But hey, I can always tell them,
and I usually do, that if they really
love it and it makes them happy, then
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that alone is worth $1,000,000.
I call it happiness over wealth. Well, it's
so true.
How do people get a hold of you?
Alright.
If people wanna get a hold of me,
yeah, grab a pen and paper and write
down this information. I'll give you my phone
number,
amongst other things. Again, I get dozens of
folks weekly sending me pictures of their treasures
(50:07):
for free appraisals.
Be smart. Get it appraised, either by me
or somebody else.
It's free, and I've got a lifetime of
great references to back it up. First off,
my Facebook name and phone number is a
great way to message me on Facebook,
and that is Jacques Kepner, and that's j
a c
q u e E s. Kepner, k e
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p as in Paul and then n e
r. Kepner, Jean Kepner. Look me up on
Facebook and you could message me or friend
me and then we could go from there.
My cell phone number, here it is. I'll
put it out there because I prefer cell
phone, texting over anything. It's better. It's quicker.
It's more efficient. I check it all the
time. It's always on me blah blah blah.
No. The Facebook messaging is not Yeah. I
(50:51):
don't get notified all the time for that.
My cell phone number is (510)
881-3679.
So it's (510)
881-3679.
People say, you hang yourself, man. You're giving
out your number.
I get enough scam calls anyways every time
I figure it out.
So text me. Text me. Say, mister Kepner
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or Jacques, just,
I've heard about you, and we'd love to
have you would you be interested in talking
to us about what we think is a
treasure? So there is that. You could also
email me at what it's worth Jacques. Jacques,
what it's worth
Jacques,allundercase,@gmail.com.
Okay? What's it worth
Jacques? Yep. That's a long one. (510)
(51:36):
881-3679
is most of the best way or just
Facebook me and message me. And I'm always
happy. I'm excited. And maybe you have that
Picasso out there. Maybe you got original Persian
word. They know there's three or four missing
copies of the American
And it will be on this coast line
somewhere. It could be. But remember people migrated
(51:57):
to California years ago
and a big big ridge of the West
Coast and so lots of treasures came with
them. Yeah. Very cool. Thank you. You are
more than welcome. Thank you. That's true. Boy,
we got six minutes for what are we
gonna do now? Oh, we got okay. Yeah.
Fun time corner.
Woo hoo. What have we got today? We
got some good jokes. We got some great
(52:18):
quotes. I really like the quotes you got.
I I sent you most of them. Did
you get them? I hope. Yeah. Alright. Let
me start then. Okay.
Quote. The antiques are the epitome of reclaim,
recycle, and reuse. Oh, is that not true?
Right? They are the epitome of reclaim, recycle,
reuse. We should all do that. We should
(52:39):
all try to reclaim and recycle, reuse instead
of use, use, use, use, use, and produce,
produce, produce, and then throw away, throw away,
throw away, like bottles.
One
more. I like things that have survived the
test of time in the nooks and crannies
of the past. Oh, that is That is
great. That is magical. I love things that
have survived the test of time in the
nooks and crannies of the past. Hey. Oh,
(53:01):
darn it. I already told you that one.
I asked doctor Gigi this morning how I
looked, and she said,
duh, with your eyes.
The medical approach? Yeah. Yeah. Alright. Give us
another.
If an antique makes you smile and gives
you pleasure and pride,
isn't its value priceless?
(53:22):
Oh, so true. That's Oh. That's it. That's
what I tell those people. They go, hey.
If you love this thing and it's part
of your family and you think it's $100,000
then it's priceless, okay?
A young boy asks his father,
do you know what a solar eclipse is?
The father answers, no, sun.
No, sun.
(53:43):
You get it. You get it. I got
it. I don't think I don't think Ray
Simon got it though.
Okay. What was even more important than the
first telephone?
What?
A second telephone. You need to call too.
You need to He
right. That's a good one. Yeah. That's a
good one. Okay. What else do you got?
A great thing about antiques
is realizing that you can breathe new life
(54:06):
into an old object. Right on. That is
so cool. You know, when you discover we
buy we occasionally buy an old lamp or
we'll buy a chair or something. We buy
something at the thrift store or Craigslist or
whatever. And it's fun to reinvent
those pieces and breathe new life into them.
Right. What do you call a French man
who has been attacked by a cat? Meow.
(54:28):
What do you call? What? Claude.
We got over four and a half minutes
left of this. We better slow it down.
I know it. Alright. Antiquing is all about
the hunt, the thrill,
and the excitement of uncovering things that you
never expected to find. Oh, so true. Right?
When you the excitement. There's excitement about going
(54:50):
out when you especially when you're on the
road, you're traveling, and you get to go
into a new town or city and out
in the country and country and you see
the sciences, antiques, man, is that ever fun.
Right? Right. When a Wynn or a thrift
store and you go I like the ones
where you can breathe new life in it.
You change the color. You change whatever you
do with it. You personally put a Gatorade
(55:11):
or something on there to make it make
it harder than my Gatorade. I put the
antlers on it. Yeah. I was gonna bring
I was gonna bring, but I thought it
might scare, Tom Bozek.
And Linda Linda might not like it. Hey.
Do you know how I make an apple
turnover?
How? Duh. I roll it down a hill.
You're actually a good cook, so you could
(55:32):
make
a apple turnover cooking thingy. Isn't that called
apple turnover? Yep.
And then teak is anything old with class.
Oh, I love that one too. That's so
cool. Yeah. Right? Mhmm. Alright. What do you
say when you notice a chicken
looking at a salad?
(55:53):
I don't know.
You say chicken Caesar salad.
Oh.
Chicken Cheese. Cheese salad. Salad. Chicken Caesar salad.
Yeah. Okay. That one bonks. Yeah. That's pretty
good.
I'll get one off here. Never forget that
the best antiques
are dear old friends.
That's my car. Right? Yeah. I have a
hard time getting a little bit. Hey. Why
(56:14):
are dogs not allowed in bars? Why? Because
they can't control their liquor.
Hey. I went to a really emotional wedding
last week.
Yep. Even the cake was in tears.
Okay. That's sad.
A sign seen outside a country store. Oh,
what? What did it say? We buy junk.
(56:35):
We sell antiques.
It's kinda true. We don't have some some
cases. Your your antique stores that you like.
Hey. I,
I finally quit drinking for good. Mhmm. Now
I'm just drinking for evil.
Okay. Listen to this. This is good for
me. Forget about facial wrinkles.
(56:57):
They're just antique smiles. They're antique smiles.
You know, here's one I like, one of
these quotes that you have, nothing haunts us
as much as the antiques we didn't buy.
Right. Right? They they go out That you
still say that sometimes. Yeah. I saw this
in Missouri
fifty years ago. I should have bought Oh,
I should have. Something. Yeah. You still something.
Say that. I love older things that people
(57:19):
have used and cherished because they have personality,
character,
and soul. Alright. So Yep.
What else you got? It is strange that
I like going Now is it is it
strange?
Is it strange Right. That I like going
to flea markets more than the mall? Oh,
that's a classic one. Well, we're good. We
don't have a mall. We have flea markets,
(57:39):
so that's good. Antiquing is nothing more than
embracing the elegance of the past. Yeah. So
true.
Alright. What else? You got a couple more?
Less is more, but antiques
are forever.
Right on. Hey.
You know, I'd be a morning person doctor
if morning started at 1PM.
That's a funny one.
(58:00):
Alright. Well Okay. We're done. Do you have
one more? No. You I thought you had
one more quote. Nope. I don't. Okay.
But you have a joke. Alright. How do
you make
you see it? Why don't you ask me
that one? Hey. How do you make an
idiot say how? How?
Oh, that was for me. I thought it
Duh.
(58:21):
Wow. Alright. I think everybody everybody. You have
been listening Fun show. To the Doc and
Jog Radio Variety Show on KCOW
one hundred point seven FM in Brookings, Oregon.
We hope you have enjoyed our show as
much as we have.
Everybody, thanks for tuning in. It's been a
fun show. Next week, we got lots of
good guests and shows after that. We got
(58:41):
a lot of people coming in regularly. I
appreciate it. Stay there for the Tony D'Orso
Show right now happening right after this program.
Thanks so much. Goodbye. Peace of love.
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