Doc & Jacques: Camp Barry – Dog Rescue, Rehabilitation, and Rehoming

In this episode of the Doc & Jacques radio variety show, Dr. GiGi Reed and Jacques Kepner welcome Rhonda Barry and Michelle Masotti from Camp Barry Dog Rescue. Ronda and Michelle share their organization’s mission to rescue dogs, support pet owners, and provide individualized care in a family-like environment. They discuss the challenges posed by […]

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(00:09):
Welcome.
And,
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Thank you for tuning into this week's fantastic
program. I'm doctor Gigi, and my cohost is,
as always, Jacques Kepner.
How are you today, Jacques? I'm doing fine,

(00:30):
doctor. Did you say something in German?
I did. Mhmm. Okay. You should know by
now, but I know. I'm taking three different
language,
apps, and I'm learning German. Greetings, everyone, and
welcome to the Doc and Jacques Radio Variety
Show. Special thanks to sound engineers Tom Bozak
and Ray Simon,
who are in the booth, and Linda Bozak
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101.1,
Crescent City, California. So now you know.
The
doctor and I have your coast covered. Okay.
What medical marvels and good medicine and health
tips does my German medical doctor, patent holding
scientist,
and university professor have for us today on
this week's health segment of MDGG?

(01:33):
Well, thank you. Well, today, we're gonna be
talking about
AI.
Oh, AI like Medicine.
Artificial Artificial. Intelligence. Artificial
intelligence is, right now, currently
reshaping
healthcare
from the diagnostics and treatment planning to rehabilitation
and prosthetics.

(01:55):
As algorithms
become more sophisticated,
their influence is reaching nearly every corner of
the medical field.
The results are often promising,
but they also raise serious questions about consistency,
ethics,
and access.
Now you have access as a physician
to these AI,

(02:17):
outlets. Right? Right. And you use it quite
a bit as every everybody in the medical
field is using it. Right. Right? Okay. Gotcha.
By the way, doctor, what's an AI's favorite
snack?
What is it?
Microchips.
Oh,
tiny chip.
So today,
in the recent time, patients commonly turn to

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the AI powered chat bots Like they're called.
G g p h GHPs.
Chat GPT. Yeah. There we go. Or diagnostic
platforms for preliminary
medical advice.
K. Everybody does that. However, when describing the
same set of symptoms to different AI systems,
user

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usually,
people get different responses. Right. We actually did
that little. Yeah. We did it and we
tested five different Did Claude, Perplexity,
GPT.
The Copilot. Copilot,
Genesys,
Deepsea. We haven't went through them all. There's
a whole bunch of them. Two years ago,
we didn't know what AI was. I mean,
seriously, it's come up on the list. We

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didn't.
Well, I did, but I was keeping back
on this. So there are different responses. These
inconsistencies
possibly come from differences in training data. Right?
They have to be trained
or different algorithm design or even the weight
given to certain medical sources.
Most
AI models do not have unrestricted

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access to the world's medical data due to
privacy laws and proprietary
restrictions. I don't even have those.
Right. And then you have the ones that
you're somebody's paying like the hospital or somebody's
they're they're getting the best of the best.
Right? Two pirates,
recently invented a robot
that can think and learn. Very. Yep. The

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first pirate says, well, that's amazing. We need
to come up a name for this thing.
And the second pirate says, a a I,
captain.
Oh, man. That was bad.
I apologize.
Okay.
He continued here, doctor.
Okay. So as a result of those inconsistencies,
two platforms

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might interpret
identical symptoms
in very different ways. Yes. One pointing maybe
you just have a cold, go lay down,
take a Tylenol. Or the other one suggested
something more serious, like pneumonia, cancer COVID. Whatever.
Yeah. So these discrepancies
highlight a crucial limitation.
AI Limitation. Okay. Limitation.

(04:45):
Like,
not good. Alright. Borders.
AI in medicine mirrors
the information it is trained on.
Developers, of course, want accuracy,
but no system is omniscient
Unless like God. At this point. Yes. At
the same time, we need to remember that
providers such as I am

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are neither omniscient. Like God.
And our interpretations of symptoms is also based
on education and experience.
Right on. Amazing. Doctor Gigi, I think I'm
losing my memory.
When did this start? Wonder what start?
Hey then. Alright.
Beyond virtual diagnostics, one of the most remarkable

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applications of AI, I think, lies in personalized
prosthetics That's like and implants. Like legs and
Yeah. Made for amputees.
Isn't that cool? Wow. So they use the
three d printing Wow. Guided by AI.
And so the designers can now create artificial
limbs or body parts that fit an individual's

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anatomy
with
Wow. Unprecedented
precision. Although this has never been seen before.
Scans of the patient's body are fed into
the AI
driven modeling software,
and then they adjust size, weight, and joint
flexibility, and go ahead and print.
The result is a prosthetic that moves way
more naturally, improves

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comfort, of course, and
boosts overall mobility, not the peg leg anymore.
Right? Right. The peg leg of the AI,
mateys.
So for amputees, this blood of AI and
three d printing can meet the difference of
having a normal life and
not so normal life. Wow. Amputees, doc, did

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you hear about that guy that had his
entire left side amputated?
No. Did not. He's alright now.
Okay.
Anything more, doc? Yes. Okay. Medical imaging
is another field, which is transformed by AI.
You mean like x rays? X rays, CTs,

(06:53):
MRIs, imaging. Alright. So they have the AI
machine
machines
learning by the model. So they feed in
thousands
and gazillions of Yeah. Of imaging. And then
they say, look at this. This turned out
to be a tumor. Look at this. This
was a fracture. And so they learn
all kinds of things that go on just

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by the imaging. It's not like they have
eyes, but they just know when something is
not as they have learned, then that must
be whatever we train them to do.
Now some hospitals
already rely on these tools
to flag abnormalities
for radiologists then,
humans,
to to look through. And that way, the

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doctors or the readers
can focus their attention to the most urgent
cases or the urgent most urgent,
differences in those,
images. What about cardiology? In
well, in cardiologies,
the AI systems already analyze
heart rhythms
and predict potential failures before they occur

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k. Offering patients a life saving time. And
also, we have read that the AIs can
imitate
to have a pulse
and Right. Blushing off. So so they are
not actually detected by a scanning system. Right?
Isn't They cannot be scared.
Right now, an
AI can say that's AI generated.

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But
they they know because of the
the pumping of blood through your blood, the
the things we don't notice but are that
are there, now it can recognize those subtle
things like Yeah. Like a heartbeat or like
a pulsing. Yeah. Like a Well, my grandfather
was always nagging me
about being overreliant on technology.
Yep. So I unplugged his life support machine.

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I'm sorry. That's not a nice one.
Alright. Anything else? Yeah. So the advantages that
we get come also with the downside. Oh,
here it comes. So yeah. So we if
we're dependent on dependent on algorithm,
algorithmic
analysis or algorithm
algorithms
overall
that

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and we just go with AI that makes
us overly reliant on those machines. True. We
don't go anymore and have to go oh,
we will. But, you know, we're learning that
over seven years of medical school that we
don't have to rely on that. So the
new generation, who knows? Right? Will they still
have to go through all that?
So potentially, adults hour clinical instincts.

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Also, big point is the data
privacy remains
a big concern. If you feed in information,
then the data has to come from somewhere.
Right? And so you feed it into the
AI,
and you're
getting away from the HIPAA unless you, of
course, put a getaway with the names and
Right. Right now. But then the bones and

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everything else looks different. So then they can't
really put
a a great, Okay. It's gonna be totally
different, I'm gonna say, in two years. I'm
gonna say two years, it's gonna be a
100 times better
and more proficient because they're learning upon millions
and millions of things and its its capacity
is endless.
Right. So so but there's one more thing
as a matter of fact, which will with

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AI, it won't be as bad most likely.
But a lot of studies that were done
in the past were done
with a bias, not on purpose. But for
example, if you do let's pretend in
in in Africa, do you do a study?
It's most likely with African American people. If
you do this study in

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in Germany, there are less African Americans. So
you kind of have a bias in
the the people that you're investigating, what you
feed into the AI. Of course, once that
is in there, you know, the AI population
is in there and you add another one,
then you have overcome that. But right now,
we don't have those studies that have been
done over many different population groups. It is

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crazy. When I was a kid, I was
afraid of the dark, folks.
Now that I'm grown up, the electricity makes
me afraid of the light.
The electricity bill? Yeah. Yeah. That's fine. They
never turn all the lights on. Okay.
Okay. Anything else? One last thing here. One
last thing. Yes. Thanks
for foreshadowing.
Yeah. The integration of AI in health care

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is an unfolding story right now,
in innovation
and caution,
both. Right? On one hand, it promises more
personalized,
accessible, and efficient medicine.
On the other hand, it demands new standards
of transparency.
Right? Because if we wanna include something in
the learning, then we have to be more

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transparent in who we're feeding in. K. But
also in accountability
and human oversight.
So by the right now, we are learning
to deal with the AI.
It's happening right now and the mushroom explosion
Yeah. Of, information. And we don't know how
it will turn out. We just hope for

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the best, and now we still learn. Right?
I agree. And I think the revolution, the
AI revolution is in the beginning. It's it's
starting out. It's been going for a couple
of years.
They say, who's they?
Say that the innovation going on in AI
is gonna create

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a
feverish
market
of robots that will eclipse cell phones.
Yeah. And when you think about cell phones,
we've already had shows on this where everybody's
tethered to a cell phone. Very rarely do
you The pocket god as you know. The
pocket god that we we hold like our
a god in our palms as it glows

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in our hands and we look down at
it like we're praying and we follow its
rules and we accept all the you know,
it just goes on and on. So this
AI is gonna eclipse
cellular use. It might be in forms of
household
robots,
AI cars, driven cars. We've seen them all
over the San Francisco. Right?
Okay. Well, that's very interesting. We should have

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another show where we could highlight some of
these
AI developments, and they are literally coming out
every single day. Thank you, doctor, for that
AI
expose.
Yeah. Right. Alright. Before we greet our guests
from Camp Berry dog rescue, let's discuss a
favorite topic of mine, idioms.
We have Yeah. We have about maybe five

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to ten minutes. We'll we'll have fun with
this. Do you realize how often and how
much we reference idioms
and in court incorporate them in our everyday
speech twenty four seven? American idioms are woven
into everyday speech so seamlessly
that we often use them without a second
thought. Phrases like a diamond in the rough
or groovy, far out, reveal how imagery gives

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color to communication, and idioms
remind us that language is alive and ever
growing.
So on today's Doc and Jacques Show, we
want to try something a little bit different
by giving our guests, Michelle Masati and Rhonda
Berry,
a chance to chime in,
that's an idiom, and take the bull by
the horn, another idiom, and help us express

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ourselves through idioms. And we will talk with
these two about a whole different subject,
the second half of this show. So let's
lead off. I wanna ask everybody,
Rhonda and,
Michelle, please
call it out or even Ray in the
in Ray in the booth is invited too.
Invited to say. This is would be the
first time we've had Ray

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commenting, but he's he's like an
omniscient,
omniscient. I don't even know how to say
it. Omniscient person? Yes. An omniscient.
You know, where he's everywhere like God. Alright.
Okay. Alright. What is a green
thumb?
Do we know what a green thumb is?
Anybody? Chime in.
Yeah. Somebody who knows how to

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is friends with plants and they don't die.
Green thumbs die all the time. K. But
I wanna quote Ray because we tested him
before, and he said, yeah. It's not an
orange thumb.
Was that right, Ray?
That's what he said.
So he's not allowed to answer this one.
No. You heard him. I heard we heard

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you that one. Alright. How about what is
a
greenhorn?
Michelle or Rhonda, do you know what a
greenhorn is? Horn.
Greenhorn. No. I actually I don't. Somebody that's
not real versed on something. That's it? Yeah.
A newcomer. An amateur. Amateur.
Right? Who is wet behind the ears. Yeah.
There you go. Right? That's someone who's a
who's a green horn. Hey. I have some

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in German. Okay. Give us some German ones.
That's interesting. Which
means to make blue.
And what does that mean? That means
to play hooky, which is another one. Hooky.
I'm you spoiled my hooky. No. No way.
That was mine.
Play hooky. But so
Okay.

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Or What's another
one?
Which means he will experience his blue wonder.
Meaning, oh, he will be surprised if he
finds out what really is going on or
stuff like that. It's weird how these this
don't make no sense in our mind, but,
to the Germans, our idioms most probably mean

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no. Right. So the American idioms, which is
look, for me, it's weird to know that
it's not really what it means. So I
learned the idioms
as this is how you say it, you
know, to play hooky. It doesn't mean, well,
what would it mean? It means you don't
go to school. So it's it's funny. So
I have a hard time with the idiom.
One day we gotta go to the entomology

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of that and find out what actually where
those things came from. I have another one
that I wanna say. Please do. It's cute.
To drive black.
He he's a black driver
k. Which means he's he's he's drive he's,
in a train or in a bus without
a ticket.
Okay. So they sneak on the subway, and
they don't have a ticket. Yeah. That's a

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blanket. Okay. Very any more, doctor? We have
many, but let's go wrong. Okay. Michelle, give
us a couple of, from your list there.
How about three sheets to the wind? Oh
my god. Oh my god. It's a real
one. Right? Ron is listening in.
Michelle's,
husband, he's many of you know Ron. He's
a great physician, Mitchell.
And,

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he he smiled big time when you said
that.
Three sheets to the wind. Ray, have you
ever been three sheets to the wind? He
doesn't have a microphone. Yeah. He doesn't. He
could talk. Just pass the bottle.
Just pass the bottle?
Okay. Okay. What Why should you put him
on the spot? That's okay. What does three
sheets to the wind mean, Rhonda? Means that

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you're drunk. Real drunk. Right? Okay. Oh, that's
your blue? Yeah. Rhonda. German, if you're blue,
you're actually drunk. Oh.
We have a lot of blues, I guess.
Yeah.
Alright, Rhonda. Give me a give us give
us a good one.
Spill the beans. Oh. That was a good
two. Right? Gray is always spilling the beans.

(17:49):
No.
You could always trust me. It's just the
people I tell secrets
to that I can't, that blow it for
me. Okay. What is,
Michelle, what is spill it like the beans.
Spill spill the beans
means Tell the gossip. Tell the dog. There
we go. That's a great Spell the tea.
There you go. Okay. Give us another one.

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The hair of the dog that bit you.
Oh, my god. Talking about dogs, then we
will be talking about dogs here real soon.
Pass the bottle.
Pass the bottle.
Pass the bottle. And that's That was raised.
Drag me in. Wait a minute. I have
another one. Bear
you didn't know what that was. No. I
did not. So they were saying that, and
then
I didn't know what it was. Now I

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do.
They think
when you're drunk and then so the next
day, you have a hangover, and then you
should
drink a little bit of the same
alcohol that you drink to,
to feel better or something. But the the
cool thing is we did that thing. We
put that in all the little chat
box chat box. All the different AI things?

(18:54):
The different AIs. The the the first thing
was that he asked Siri, hey, Siri. What
does blah blah mean? And
Siri said,
I cannot answer that. And so that's when
he thought,
What can I ask all the other AIs?
And most actually knew it, so it wasn't
because it's a common phrase that people have
put
somewhere. But Siri didn't know. Okay. Siri just

(19:17):
tried to answer me. So I'm putting my
I'm putting my iPad into airplane mode, so
she was will lay off. Okay. How about,
how
about
Red tape? No. Red tape is I think
I think red what is red tape? What
do you mean? Red tape is
something's
Bureaucracy.
Oh, red bureaucracy.

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Right. Yes.
Michelle's got that one. How about we all
know what a bookworm is. We think we
know what a bookworm.
But that's just someone that studies a lot,
obviously, or reads Or reads a lot. A
lot. Yeah. Alright. Okay, doc. Give me a
give me a good shot.
So der Otefahn oh, I said in German.
Right? The Germans. I'm doing the Germans.

(19:59):
The red thread.
What is the red thread? Red thread is,
like, the common theme throughout something. And so
it was really hard for me, like, the
red herring in a story.
And so it it really confused me because
the red thread means it's a common theme.
And then they're saying, well, that's the red
herring. It's like, wait. What? I don't even
know what red herring is. I know it's

(20:20):
something that's happened. Misleading. It's like a misleading
hint.
Okay. So that one That's interesting. Pushed me
over. Red thread. Okay. I must say,
what is white elephant?
Yeah. Right? I don't know. I've never known
that one. No. But white elephant gift. Well
Right?
Right. But I don't know what it means.
Oh. How about your honor?

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Is it brave? I would Yeah. Go ahead.
I've heard it is like the white elephant
in the room. Right. Is that
something that's obviously not obvious?
Possibly. Right? I The the obvious that doesn't
wanna be pointed out. That's right. Why don't?
The obvious that doesn't wanna be because it
gets caught in red tape.

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That's right. Alright. How about Well, he's staying
on white. How about I this is one
I did not know, and that is white
lie. And wait a minute. What is a
white lie? Anybody? It's a minor lie. A
minor lie? A minor lie.
Well, it's a lie that you do really
super lie, but you're protecting some You mean
you're out there in the gold fields mining

(21:23):
and then you get you tell a minor
lie?
Oh.
The thing is, Ron, try to chime in.
You don't even have a microphone there.

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Meaning, I want it in writing.
Really? I want that, you know, signed and
autographed and whatnot. Hey, Rhonda. Your turn.
In a pickle? Yeah. Oh, in a pickle.
You're gonna get the red tape in a
in a pickle. So Are you in a
pickle?
Anybody wanna chime in on that one? You're

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you're in trouble? In trouble. Yeah.
You're in a pickle. Stuck between a rock
and a hard Oh, there's another great one.
Duh. Dang. Forgot that one. How about she
gave me the no. How about white knuckles?
What does white knuckles mean? What that does
that mean you're really angry? Like I don't
think so. Scared.
You're scared. Scared. Scared. Frightened.

(22:27):
You're you've got the white knuckles showing. You're
just like frozen in in time. How about
Hey, I didn't know. Give us give us
another one, Michelle. Off one's rocker. Oh, that's
obviously Ray Simon.
Ray, would you like to chime in on
that one? What does off the rocker mean?
Yeah. That that's how I am when I'm
in this booth.

(22:47):
Listening to this show.
Yeah.
It just drives you crazy.
Jaycee, you got one?
Yes. To have a white vest.
Wait a minute. This is another German one.
To have a white vest. Well, yeah. I
devised a veste ham. So veste,
which means it's spelled with a w and
so but in Vesta in English is spelled

(23:08):
with a v, so I had to
reorganize my little words here. To have a
white vest.
Wow. To have a white vest means to
what? To be a goody two shoes? Yeah.
A goody? Yeah. Have nothing nothing in the
background. You can check it all out. I'm
Wow. How about,
he was caught red handed. Yeah. Anybody? We

(23:29):
all think we'd With evidence in your I
don't know. He was caught red handed. Like,
in the middle of it?
Cookie jaw, hand in the cookie jar? Hand
in the cookie jar. Yeah. So that means
he was caught doing something Doing something bad.
Directly. Right? Directly. Yeah. Alright, Rhonda. Give us
one more. Cook the books. A what? Cook
the books. Oh, cook the books. Cooking the

(23:51):
books. Oh, that's a good one. That is
a good one. I've never cooked the books.
Of course. Ever. No, ma'am. But you have
a cookbook. I have cookbooks, but I haven't
cooked what does that mean? Anybody wanted to
chime in? Yeah. Changing changing
Cookbooks.
Cook changing something like the numbers.
So I mean, a second set of books.

(24:11):
Or you could even yeah. He that's mean
you're frauding somebody out. You're Frauding? Deceiving somebody
by cooking the books. You're making you know,
you're pretending you're not making any money into
so you don't have to pay taxes on
it. You're cooking the books. Changing the numbers.
Changing
the numbers, Racist. Very good. Very good. Okay,
Michelle.
Living on a shoestring.

(24:32):
Living
on a shoestring. Living on a shoestring. Living
on a shoestring. Living on a shoestring. That's
good one. Right? That color.
What color? It's a tan. No.
Obviously, I think this is obvious. We use
these all the time. He's Yeah. Like a
shoestring. Poor? Like, they're making ends meet on
their Yeah. Cordless.
Super, super poor. How about their
he was given the red carpet treatment.

(24:55):
Yeah.
When it going to the Oscars.
Right. So if you're famous or you're Yeah.
You know, you're walking into the White House
or something like that, you're gonna get the
red carpet treatment. And that is,
where did these things come from? No. The
shoestring person. The poor person.
That's a No. The shoestring person who makes
ends meet on the naut he has a

(25:15):
lot of hand me downs.
Hand me downs. That's a good one. I
like hand me downs. That's very good. Okay.
Michelle, you have one on the back.
No. You do, Rhonda. You have one on
the back. See if that
A whistleblower.
Okay. What is a whistleblower on? Do you
know what a whistleblower is?
Somebody that tells on

(25:35):
There you go. Tells the bees. For doing
something wrong.
That's right. They're trying to cover something up.
Somebody's in there and they said, they're really
really making a mess of it. Okay. There's
our there's our go Yeah. That one. On
idioms. First time we've engaged on a 101
programs. So first time we've engaged our guests,
like, pretty much sharing. For being good news.

(25:56):
Thank you for being that. Usually, you just
get the first ten minutes of her talking
and I my my great jokes.
But now that we do have this time,
we have about four minutes. I'm gonna I'm
gonna,
lead into a prologue about what happens next.
Mhmm. And then we need to take the
station break, and then we'll come right into
the questions
about what I am going to be talking

(26:17):
about
right now.
Let's see. Let me let me scroll here.
Do I have anything? Okay.
Before we greet our guests from Camp Berry
dog rescue, I guess the rescue is okay
to put on there. Yep. Yep. Let's discuss
a favorite,
topic of mine. That's idioms. Wrong page.
Sorry.

(26:38):
Alright. There is a place in our coastal
region where hope has four legs and a
wagon tail. Camp Berry, and that's B A
R R Y,
has been a place of second chances chances
given without hesitation of a community built on
the simple belief that every life matters,
especially the ones that others have given up

(26:58):
on.
For years, this nonprofit entity located in Crested
City has been more than just a rescue
facility. It's been a sanctuary.
It's a safe harbor for dogs that have
nowhere else to go. The abandoned ones, the
forgotten ones, and the ones who just needed
someone to see them, really see them and
say, hey, you're worth saving.

(27:21):
But now, Camp Barry itself needs saving.
They're having to relocate. And at this juncture,
they don't know where they'll go.
And imagine that for just a moment, having
built something so vital,
so life giving, and facing the reality that
you might have to leave it all behind,
meaning every kennel and every dog, every familiar
place,

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where those frightened dogs finally learn to trust
again?
Every corner of ground where transformation
happens
quietly,
one paw at a time. This is
what Camp Berry represents.
The people who run Camp Berry aren't just
asking why us,
they're asking what next because that's what you

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do
when you're in the business of rescuing. You
don't give up. You you adapt and you
adopt and you keep going and you find
a way. So in a week or so,
they're holding a fundraiser, not just to raise
money, but they also need desperately as much
money as they can. They're moving. But to
raise awareness of the of Camp Berry and
to let people know that Camp Berry's mission

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isn't over.
So today, after this short break in just
another moment, we're going to talk with the
good folks behind Camp Berry about what they're
facing, what they're fighting for, and why they
refuse
to let this story end here.
So without any more dog bones for me
to chew on,
doctor Gigi and I,
welcome Michelle Masati and Rhonda Berry and Ron

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Mitchell over here to the Doc and Jacques
Radio Show. Welcome.
Yes. Welcome. Thank you. And I think I
know you because we've been talking here. Right.
Thank you for doing that. And it's that
time now for me to get right into
the mid show break so that, we can
get right to the questions
from you ladies.
Where is my where is my script here
on my mid show break? I think I've

(29:11):
lost it. Here it is. Time flies,
and it's we got ten seconds. Right? Time
flies when we're having fun. It's already that
mid time break here at the Doc and
Jacques Radio Show, proudly broadcasting from the KCOW
one hundred point seven FM Studios
in lovely coastal Brookings, Oregon. The list of
major sponsors for this community radio station are
Advanced Airlines, flying in and out of nearby

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Crescent City to Oakland seven days a week.
Michelle Buford, hello, Michelle, with our own vibrant
local Curry counter Chamber of Commerce.
Nick and Lisa Riel and the PPA or
the Partnership for the Performing Arts. And lastly,
my dear co co host, doctor Gigi Reed,
MD, and yours truly, Jacques Kepner. On behalf
of KCIW,
thanks to all of you. Alright.

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That was perfect. Very good. Yes. Ready, ladies?
Are we ready to get into some good
conversations?
Alright. So we're talking with Michelle and Rhonda.
And I'll ask you both,
what is your position and title at the
Barrie Camp Dog Rescue?
I oversee everything
Rhonda. That's done, and I'm a volunteer.

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Okay. And you happen to have the same
last name as Yes. We
we started
out in 2018
as a foster family for the Humane Society
of Del Norte, because they save cats, and
they cannot do dogs on their site. So
we were a foster family for them, and
they did puppies. We'd come, like, camp out

(30:38):
at our house,
and then they'd be adopted out. That's how
we got Camp Berry. Very cool. Michelle?
I'm just a volunteer. I love dogs. I've
I've was lucky enough to get a dog
from Camp Berry, and
it's wonderful. And they they do so much
with the dogs, training and working with the

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owners and making sure it's a good fit
and vetting people, making sure that they're gonna
be okay with the dogs. Okay. So you're
also doing all that. Right? They is including
you? Yes. So
how long has Camp Berry be out there?
We began in 2018. Mhmm. And then we
got our nonprofit status in 2021.

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Cool. So you have 501C3?
Yes. Very cool. And so you have a
mission statement?
We do.
So
our mission is very, very simple. Mhmm. We
rescue dogs in need, support families so that
they can keep their dogs, and be a
resource for our community that our community can
count on. Good.

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I like that. You're actually the founder, Rhonda.
Right? You're the founder of Yes. Camp Berry.
And it's your namesake.
You incorporated or you became a nonprofit two
years later.
It's a five zero one c three. Yes.
And
I'm old school.
Why do I grew up with these facilities
as knowing them as dog pounds.

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Mhmm. What is the dog pound? That's you're
not a dog pound. We're not a dog
pound. But to me, a dog pound is
a county entity that picks up dogs, and
they hold them until they get adopted.
We're a rescue, so when we bring dogs
in,
they are handled,

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you know, 12 to 15 times a day.
We work with them, we walk them, we
try to give them a not really a
family structure, but they are out with us
during the day. They're with the other dogs.
They're spending time around the chickens, the turkeys,
the cat, each other.
You know, so we keep them

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like we would our own dogs. Right. Are
they kept in kennels? I mean, what I
think of as a kennel, a little three
by five foot fence in there? We do
kennel
overnight k. And during mealtimes
and after taking a dog out and working
with it. So when we take a dog
out and we work obedience or we work,
you know,
on just leash walking or, you know, take

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them out and play and do, like, tug
toys and the flirt pole and stuff like
that, we instantly take the dogs back in
and they have a cool off period in
their crate or kennel. Right. We'll get to
why,
and how come your kennel is pardon me.
The Camp Berry is closing currently, and you're
in search for something else. But obviously, it's
a no kill facility. Right? Yes. And are

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there no kill facilities in our area, regional,
at all?
Yes. South Coast is labeled a no kill
shelter. The
animal control in
Del Norte is labeled a no kill shelter.
So that
means you have no there's no facility to
kill a dog, let's say, or would you

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have to take a dog to, like, the
vets
to have them euthanized?
Yes. To the vets. Yeah. Okay. Oh, wow.
Alright.
Currently, where you're at now, though you're moving
and that's one of the reasons you're on
the show is because you've got big events
coming up soon,
and and need to reach out to the
community for some help. How many dogs currently
how how many dogs can be held at
Camp Berry? And it's in its heyday when

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it's the best days, how many dogs were
there?
32.
Woah.
Wow. And it's the one on Parkview
that that feedlot
store or the hay store, right, that's sold
or it's now closed.
Yes. That is now a gymnastics
Oh, really? Lease. Oh, it has been bought?
Okay. No. They're leasing it. Oh, okay. And

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you're you're across the street. So why,
it's being
sold? Yes. Okay. Are Yes. Our plot is
being sold.
They will lease to us until it sells,
but then once it sells, we're out. Okay.
Is there any local government or state ties
into you, or do they have No. No?
Okay. Cool. So where do all those dogs

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come from in the first place?
80% of our puppies that come in are
coming out of the homeless,
places right now.
Wow. Our older dogs are either owner surrenders
or they're dogs that our pound could not
take.
And they take in

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some of the more difficult dogs that the
pound can't take, and they also take in
when we have these big fires like the
Smith River complex fire Yeah. They take not
just dogs, dogs, cats We have 72 animals
through the Smith River Complex Fire. Wow. Wow.
Now I wanna point something out. All my
dogs I've ever had are rescue dogs. Mhmm.

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And the last dog the one that I
have right now, I
gave
back after two weeks of having her, and
I cried every day. And so I took
her back again
because she was still there. And I just
felt so bad because she always ran away.
I always ran away whenever she was up.
She was running running away. And so I
gave her actually
for two weeks.
She was at a trainer. And they taught

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me that the kennel is super important.
It is their safe space. So them being
in the kennel is great. They have Yeah.
They don't have to worry about anything. That
is their safe space. They don't have to
bark. They just or if they want to,
but they don't have to
promote their position in the in the herd
or the Yep. Thing. Right? So

(36:18):
can if anybody thinks, well, cannling is kenneling
is important for the dogs. Yeah. So I'm
glad you guys do that. All of our
dogs are crate trained.
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Crate crate trained. That's what
it's called. Yeah.
How do you find people who wanna adopt
a dog?
Normally, Facebook is our go to or word-of-mouth.
Somebody that has adopted from us

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before and enjoyed the experience and enjoyed their
dog, they will tell their friends. Their friends
will tell their friends. And Yeah. Very cool.
What,
Michelle, what do you think is the best
thing about Camp Barry?
What they provide for the community and for
the dogs, they've rescued hundreds of dogs and
taken them off the street and found them

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homes
and successful homes. And if somebody has a
problem with their dog, they can always, always
bring it back. And they work with the
owners.
If there are little problems, they work with
the owners to to fix the little problems.
And
so the dog can have a very full
life, and we make sure that the owner
and the dog are a very good match.

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Is there any cost to this?
If we wanted to come in and adopt
a dog, what would be what would we
expect to be put out for this? Our
adoption fees are 200.
That is a dog that is spayered,
up to date on shots.
That's about it. Wow. And they're they're somewhat
kennel trained. They are freight trained. Yes. They

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are. What about some really
some dogs just have that bad temperament? They're
older dogs. Can they all I see the
the I see the, dog whisperer, for instance.
You know? And there'll be some old dog
that's just it's you can I'm not gonna
change that dog. I don't think. Well, you
can. Right? I think you can. Yeah. You
can.
Really? It'll just be No. What about,
oh, shoot. What are the dogs that nobody

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wants because they're actually illegal and sometimes
The pit bulls. The pit bulls. So I
know I I I could speak wrongly, but
my impression was in Louisiana, if they if
you take a pit bull to the vet,
they have to euthanize them. They are not
allowed, I believe. Maybe I'm a little exaggerating,
but that's what my impression was. Woah. I
didn't know that. And people still have it

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because
they can be very sweet, but once they
bite, they just can't let go because of
how they're They can't be out there. That's
the reason why supposedly
supposedly they're do you so do you have
any restrictions on any dogs that you take
in?
No. You take in? I would rather I
would rather take in a pit bull Mhmm.

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Over a chihuahua.
Yeah. Alright. Why?
So my assistant
out there has only been bitten by either
a chihuahua,
a dachshund,
little dogs with a big bite. Right? We're
talking big bites, you know, where, like, blood's
dripping.
And the pit bulls and the shepherds and

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the, you know, the rottweilers,
it's all
they're not they don't bite.
How interesting. Yeah. We have our neighbors had
a dog that just barely had to put
down, but it was a mix. I mean,
it was a huge, huge dog. It was
a mix of I don't know how many,
but the hugest dog you can think of.
And he he played with little tiny kitties

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and he just he sometimes carried them around.
They were like He was so afraid of
his own shadow, that dog. Right. But he
was just so gentle. I mean, we couldn't
let
our dog to the you know, she would
have just
Well, your dog, Ziva chases all the cats.
Yeah. They yes. She does. Takes off on
them. Yeah. Right. We work with all of
our dogs around the cats, turkeys, and chickens.

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Yeah. That's
you know, we have we'll have them off
leash
around these animals and
but we've worked up to that point to
keep everybody safe.
Alright. How what's the latest news? Let's get
down to bringing this up to current. What's
the latest news about the camp? So you
are gonna have to move once the property
sells. Yes. How long has the property been

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for sale?
You know? They just listed it
within the past
two to three weeks. K.
They we were told that they have somebody
that's interested in it, so that leads me
to believe it's going to sell rather quickly.
Yeah.
I know that we're secure through the November.

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I'm hoping that we can make it through
the end of the year and possibly
January if we need it. Right. Where are
you hoping to relocate?
We wanna stay within Del Mar County, and
we wanna stay,
you know,
easily accessible.
And so everybody can reach the
the facility easily. You're kind of you're a

(40:57):
little bit backwoods there. I mean, you're off
Parkwood Yeah. Parkview now. But you have more
room. Right? You can have how many acres
do you have right now? We're on one
acre and about
half of it's usable. And are you gonna
take out all the cages and the kennels
and you'll take everything out? Yeah. We'll take
everything with us. Yes. So you do need
this,
You need the space. Yeah. You need the

(41:17):
space. Acreage. We're looking at a couple plots
that are
just under 10 acres
that
we would have to build. They have water
they have electricity to the curb. There's no
well. There's no septic. No buildings.
So it'd be going from ground up,
but we can accomplish that cheaper than paying

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the asking price of where we're at now.
Oh, wow. And it would be customized to
us. Yeah. Now is anybody ever staying in
the building that you have now, or is
it
strictly
nine to eight to nine to five or
whatever you're there with? Oh, no. There's somebody
on property that lives on the property. The
dogs are never alone there at night. Yeah.
So you would need that. So somebody would

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stay on the new park. Oh, absolutely. Yeah.
And one of the things they do is
when people go into the hospital and they
don't wanna stay because they they have a
dog at home, the hospital will call Camp
Berry,
and Rhonda or the other assistant will go
pick up the dog at their house,
take it to the to the Camp Berry,
and take care of it until the person's

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out of the hospital. Woah. This is amazing.
And how much does that cost?
Absolutely nothing. Wow. Amazing.
Very cool. So the hospital knows about this?
Or the The hospital calls us. Very nice.
Yep. How about,
long term or short term facilities,
you know, to heal after a broken leg
or whatever? Not really the hospital.

(42:44):
Is that We had
a lady that had to have open heart
surgery. Mhmm. So she brought her dogs to
us a week before she went into the
hospital, and we kept them all the way
through her recovery. Oh, wow.
Until she was able we had them
almost three months.
Wow. That's amazing. Tell us about the upcoming,

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festival. The fund pardon me. Festival.
It's a fun right. Tell us if Tell
us about the fundraiser now. This is bringing
us a real current here. What, Michelle, what
is it? What's what's going on? Okay. Next
Friday on the twenty first, we're having a
fundraiser
at Enoteca. So the next next week? Yes.
Next Friday Friday. From at Enoteca in Crescent

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City.
And we are having we have a dinner,
which you tickets for the dinner are $30
a piece, and you can choose between smoked
tri tip or grilled cod.
And we're having a big raffle. We have
some great raffle prizes. We have a a
chainsaw.
We have a generator.
Wow. We have, you know, big

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biscuit a big basket of dog treats. We
got some, couple of trail rides from Crescent
Trail Rides. We have an artist in town
who's donated
a a portrait of that Chopin of your
dog. Oh, cute. No. Wait. Crescent Trail riding.
I mean, it's a horse that's horse riding?
Yeah. Crescent Trail rides. That's who is driving

(44:10):
by the house. We live out near Lake
Earl Wilderness area. We see these Oh, yeah.
Yeah. That's the Dale. See these
every
all the time. Yeah. We're out there too.
Yeah. The big trailers with the horses. That's
them. Now I get it. Now I didn't
know that. Crescent Trail rides well. Okay. So
you get the dinner. It is a closed
to the unless you buy the ticket is

(44:30):
is the Well, if you wanna have the
dinner, you have to buy the ticket by
Tuesday.
Okay. But people can still come in and,
you know, have beer and wine Okay. You
know, bid on the auction items. Uh-huh. And
so it's both. You can just come in
and Oh, I see. Okay. Cool. Not have
the dinner. But if you wanna have the
dinner
And did you say there was music?
Oh, yes. So, Robert Tiernan is gonna be

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playing Oh, we like Robert Tiernan. Good. Good.
Jazz
through our dinner hour from five to seven.
And then Jeffrey Dean will be playing from,
like, 07:30, eight to ten. K. Very cool.
How about you, Ron? You gonna play that?
Am I what? Are you
playing? Oh, yeah. I'm playing. I just had
heart surgery too. So I'm Oh. Recovering. But,
yeah, I'm gonna start up playing again with

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Robert Tiernan. Right. Oh, very cool.
Here at I don't know. I think he
has something on the twenty eighth. We've been
trying to get Robert Tiernan in in here
forever, and he's he's Everybody says, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. That sounds good. And then But we
found out he talks as much as he
talks when he plays music.
It's not at all. It's just not at
all. Right? No. He's a good guy.

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So it's taking place at Inoteca Restaurant and
Bar in right downtown Crescent City. Eighth. Twenty
first. Twenty first. Oops. Yeah. Twenty first. First.
And you can get tickets at Inoteca.
Right. Walk in and say, let's buy some
tickets. Yes. Or
at Camp Bear, you've got some tickets, though.
We've got two left.
Yeah. Tickets are going fast. So Anoteca is

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the bulk of the tickets that are left.
Or they could call you. Yes. They can
call me, and I can facilitate getting them
tickets.
Alright. What do they what number do they
call? Call me my name is Michelle Masadi
at (707)
951-7094.
That's (707)
951-7094.

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Talk to Michelle. You reach out to her,
and she will tell you,
more about it. So I have a big
question for both of you. What is this
about matched donations?
We have a local
family
that
has taken notice of what we do, and
they absolutely love
how we take care of our dogs, what
we do with our dogs. And

(46:39):
they have offered to match donations up to
a $100,000
through December 31.
Moment.
So that's on top. So one match. It's
everybody's donating. I assume the artists are donating
their time.
Dan, Daryl is is cooking a lot of
this at a at a reduced cost. And
so you're you're gonna be able to to
pocket if it's a sellout, which I I

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believe it will be.
Fantastic.
And is there a website? Or you're all
over Facebook. Right? Yep. And it tells about
this. If they get on Facebook, just look
up Camp Berry. Yeah. At campberry.org
is the website.
Right.
Wow. Just campberry
Yep. Barry
Yep.
.Org.
Okay. So how where do they do the

(47:22):
donations? Is that you know, when they get
matched, where how do you get those?
They're going to match, like, all the dinner
tickets. No. Oh, okay. So that's what we
want. Donation?
Okay. Yes. Wow. Okay. And then whatever money
we make,
Daryl's donating some
proceeds from the bar as well.
So all the money we make from the

(47:43):
auction items, that will be doubled.
And how about
are you still waiting or or expecting donations
donations? Anybody can donate. We have, a GoFundMe
site. Yes. We do.
And you can take it to Camp Berry
or you can make donations at Anoteca.
Anywhere you wanna do it or go to
the GoFundMe site, and they'll be doubled up

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until the December 31. Now you're running pretty
lean right now, Rhonda, at Camp Berry. So
you you right now, there's only four dogs.
Yes. So you're anticipating,
the news that you're gonna have to move
Yes. Sooner than later.
And you wanna get a spot that's big
enough?
Yes.
And hold as many dogs as

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you can. Do many dogs come to you
from the Brookings area or from, let's say
Yes. Farther south? We've taken several from the
Brookings area.
We have taken
a few out of Humboldt County.
We
the ones that we've brought out of the
Humboldt County were
on the euthanizing list. Oh. And they were

(48:49):
There is kill facilities in Yes. Eureka or
Yes. Humboldt. Yeah.
And they're they're great dogs. We brought them
in. We worked with them. We have Trent
left. He's from Humboldt.
And he is absolutely amazing.
What is it? What kind of dog? He's
a dog whisperer kind of guy? No. Trent
is the dog. Trent's the dog. Yes. Of
the female.

(49:10):
Way to keep up, man. Way to keep
up. Okay. Now I get it. Okay.
So Trent is the dog that was on
a kill list Yes. And he was saved.
Lucky What kind of dog is it? A
big small He's a big dog. Oh, he's
a big dog. He got easily a 100
pounds probably. Oh, wow. Just a mutt?
Yes. And how old?
About three and a half. And good good

(49:31):
dog overall disposition. Oh my gosh. Yes. He
we do him off leash all the time.
He's got amazing recall. He's,
like, great with the turkeys, the cat, the
chicken. Yeah. So you have other animals too.
Right? Turkeys, cats, chickens? Yes.
But they're not part of person? Yeah. Yeah.
Although They are a part of Campbury. We
utilize them yep. We utilize them to work

(49:53):
with the dogs.
Oh. For training. And the dogs are chicken
friendly and well, chase chickens or cats or
kids.
You got kids somewhere.
They have little AI robots running around,
and they're impervious. For looking. Yeah. They're they're
impervious to bites. Yeah.

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Yeah. Just run up and down.
And you'll put you bring all the stuff
with you, the kennels and everything are gonna
come with you to the new facility. Absolutely.
And you wanna stay in Del Norte County
Yes. Somewhere. That's and you're willing to build.
Yes. Is there are you have you asked
for an angel donor type person? Is that
something? We've asked everything.
We did just get a,

(50:35):
10,500
and, I think, $73
donation. Woah. Nice. Yes. That is, an odd
number, but okay. It well,
it was somebody that had appreciated
stocks. Oh, nice. So we had to go
down and set up an account so that
we can accept that. Wow. And then she
gave us,

(50:56):
$10,000.
Wow. But in that little bit of time
that we had it, it went up a
little bit. Oh, cool. And I was like,
let's hang on to it a little bit
longer. We need that here at KCOW.
We are always looking for we're a nonprofit.
We are here. Gigi and I are not
paid for this. We are volunteers like most
everybody on this entire
radio station. We're always looking for an angel,
donor who keep this, keep this program and

(51:19):
this radio station running smoothly.
I I think it's fantastic.
I think it's fantastic what you're doing. I
think it's
noteworthy
and honorable and noble
what you're doing and have been doing, and
it's it will grow. Right? Yes. It will
grow. We
we want to be more than a rescue.
We want to be

(51:41):
community or, you know, we wanna be for
the community.
So if we can pull through this and
actually get what we want
going,
you know,
training classes. We would love to start those
back up because everybody needs help training their
dog. Right. Great idea. Great idea. Warding. Warding.
We'll we'll daycare programs.

(52:01):
Yes. Oh, very cool. Yeah. My yeah. She
wasn't until she was supposed to help. Just
went up. We won't say where, but we
aborted,
Ziva just three days. And it used to
be Four nights. What? Yeah. Was it four
nights?
It used to be $15.60.
Yeah. A night, and then it went up
to dramatically up. It's this this thing. It's

(52:22):
like Another thing we do with the dogs
is
Rhonda's been working with the prison, the prison
pause program.
And so the the prisoners help train the
dogs. Right. And there's a whole program that
she does with the prisoners to train the
dogs.
And it's it's a really great program. It
helps them. It helps the dogs. It's How
do you know how to train dogs? Did

(52:43):
you take courses for that? Or is it
just you just have to Trial and error
and learning what works. Because there's no
one way that's gonna work for everybody. Yes.
Yeah.
So you have to be able to think
outside the box. Mhmm. Like, we had somebody
that brought in a rottweiler.
She had scheduled her to be euthanized. Mhmm.

(53:05):
Her vet said, hey, call this place. See
if they can help you.
So, she brought her over. She was going
to surrender her to us.
And, I mean, a great dog. And this
lady is so dog savvy that
I was like,
why?
You know, but they could not get past
the one issue that was going on. We
were able to think outside the box and

(53:25):
put a program together
to where now that dog is living in
her home again Aw. With no issues.
Aw. Sweet. That goosebumps. That's sweet. That is
are you always looking for volunteers?
Always. Yes.
How I first heard about Camp Berry was
a a woman from Brookings.
We met when we were talking and she
said, I'm with Camp Berry. And I go,

(53:46):
camp what? I didn't know what it was
and she told me and she is a
walker.
She comes down or has been coming down,
I think, once or twice a week
and walks the dogs. Wait. All of them?
So you have, like Well, she gets some.
I mean, she walks them up. So can
you walk more than three, four, five? So
or or do you always have to go
just with one dog when you walk them?
You can walk as many dogs as you

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want. If you wanna come out at 08:00
in the morning and take every dog that
we have No. I mean, at the same
time. At the same time. At the same
time. Yeah. Normally, people only take one. We
do have a couple field trip volunteers
that they will come out. And between the
two of them, they'll grab,
you know,
four to eight puppies or four to eight
dogs and take over to a friend's yard

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and just let them all run and play
and have fun. They'll come and grab one
or two, so they'll each have one, and
then take them to the beach and take
them hiking, you know, take them to the
river. Aw, sweet. Now do you ever go
to the dog run,
up on on in Across from Seawake? Yeah.
The dog park. The dog park.

(54:49):
I don't. Yeah. Well, you probably don't need
it. Right? You have that in your facility.
We
utilize that if there's nobody there, but I've
seen a lot of really bad behaviors.
Oh, I see. We learn very quickly from
other dogs. Dogs learn from other dogs. And
they learn it quickly.
And then you spend six months trying to
unlearn that behavior. Right on. Alright. We are

(55:12):
drawing to a close, but you could reach
out to Camp Berry,
at (707)
951-7094.
And that's Michelle you would be talking to,
and she will set you up with some
tickets for the twenty first.
That is a Friday or Saturday? Friday. It's
Friday. Friday night. Inoteca? Oh, it's coming up
fairly soon. Yeah. It'll be a week from

(55:32):
in two days from now at Inoteca downtown.
Inoteca. I mean,
you can buy tickets at the restaurant,
and I don't think they're selling them at
the door, are they? No. No. Not for
the dinner. But with they take donations for
sure. Yeah. Oh, they take donations, and then
you can go after the dinner and just
hang out, have beer or wine Yeah. And

(55:52):
list Bid on the auction items and like
auction. Yeah. There was some nice auction items.
Yeah.
Cool. Thanks. And 35 beers on tap Right.
By the way. That's the most I've ever
heard of anywhere, and Inoteca has it. Well,
listen. Thank you very, very much, Michelle,
and Rhonda for coming in today and and
helping us explore what's going on in Camp

(56:15):
Berry.
Congratulations for what you're doing. Good luck to
Camp Berry. And, yeah, the best of luck.
And maybe next year you come back when
you're re
re planted in a new rehaul. Every home?
Yes. Yeah. Talk with
us again. Alright. That means,
if we have a few minutes for what?
Fun time corner. Let me dig up some
jokes, some good ones this time, doc. Okay.

(56:37):
Then I will go ahead with some
quotes.
AI will not replace humans, but those who
use AI will replace those who don't.
Pretty good. Okay. I'm a light eater.
Soon as the light peaks out over the
horizon, I start eating.

(56:59):
Today, I meticulously,
how do I say it? Meticulously
entered everything
that I ate into my new app fitness
fitness app that I have on my phone.
It sent an ambulance over to my house.
The problem with AI isn't that it will

(57:19):
develop a will of its own, but that
it will follow ours too well.
Oh, my. That's kinda cool. Thing. That's kinda
cool. Until I it recently all came out
during a conversation,
no one knew that I had dentures.
Hey, I have one for Elon Musk, mister
AI. Alright. Competition for AI superiority

(57:42):
at a national level is what most likely
is the most likely cause of World War
three.
Oh. That's dire.
That is
He's mister AI. Right? I went to see
doctor Gigi about my short term memory problems.
The first thing she did was make me
pay in advance.

(58:02):
One more. Alright.
You have one more? You. Oh, me? Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. I find it ironic that the
colors red, white, and blue stand for freedom
until they are flashing behind you.
Okay.
Alright. Hey. We're done. You have been listening
to the Doc and Jock
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