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December 6, 2025 59 mins

In this episode of the Doc & Jacques radio variety show, hosts GiGi Reed, MD, and Jacques Kepner welcome special guest Linda Stagg-Brown to the studio. Linda spotlights the ChariTree Holiday Festival, a festive nonprofit showcase and silent auction featuring beautifully decorated Christmas trees to benefit local organizations. The event takes place on December 6th at the Grange Hall in Harbor. Then Jerry Bauer, a musician and former engineer, shares his compelling journey with the harp. He discusses the instrument’s accessible beauty and recounts his experiences building harps. Jerry also expresses his passion for reviving old instruments, describes the joy he finds playing harp music at Pebble Beach Drive during sunset, and concludes by performing four pieces on the harp.

Hosts: GiGi “Doc” Reed MD, Jacques Kepner; Producers: GiGi “Doc” Reed MD, Jacques Kepner

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(00:09):
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(00:31):
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(00:52):
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(01:13):
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in Crescent City, California. So there. Now you

(01:33):
know doctor Gigi and I have your coasts
covered.
Okay. At this time, we usually have medical
marvels and good medicine and health tips by
the good German medical doctor, patent holder scientist
and university professor,
Doctor. G. G. M. D. But
today,
we have a busy schedule to get through

(01:55):
with several interesting folks. So
let's start off with a woman who is
involved in a very fun activity this time
of year, an activity that goes a long
way and helps all sorts of folks.
Without any more verbiage from me, I would
like to introduce Linda Stagg Brown
to the Doc and Jacques Radio Variety Show.
Thank you. Alright. Welcome.

(02:16):
Well, thank you for having me. Yeah. Thank
you for coming. Alright. Very nice. Have a
great a great laugh.
Yeah. You have primed us here with some
jokes. I just wanted to say, if you're
not allowed to you're not supposed to eat
at nighttime Yeah. Why do they have
a light bulb in the refrigerator?
I do not know.
I wish I could know why that is.

(02:36):
Hey, Martin. Yeah. Your turn. Take over. No.
What is
cherry tree? And what is your position and
title in that chair a tree?
Chair a tree or Oh, sorry. Chair a
tree.
Well, I'm the coordinator
this year, but it is actually my first

(02:57):
chair a tree.
It was going strong in the community
until COVID
and
stopped.
It,
is
a nonprofit showcase in the community, so we
get various
nonprofit
service organizations,
and they all participate.

(03:18):
They all have a tree. They decorate it,
bling it up,
and then it goes to silent auction. And
so people then are encouraged to come. Community
members encouraged to come
and they can bid on the trees by
silent auction.
All of the funds raised go to the

(03:38):
individual
organizations.
Woah. So you're a catchall for everybody.
Yeah. And we're just hosting it. We're sponsoring
it. That's one of the Grange's,
missions is community engagement,
civic engagement, healthy communities. So
we thought we'd pick it up and go
with it this year, get it back up

(03:59):
and running. So the organization that actually decorate
the tree, those are the people whoever
every tree gets sold, let's say, and whatever
money is made on that goes back to
the
organization who decorated. Right. They ended up. They're
not saving a penny. Right. Yeah. Now do
you do you actually
dedecorate them, or does the whole tree go

(04:21):
in the back of the seat?
Right. So the way it works is, we
got these big tree removal bags. I didn't
really realize that was a thing.
Big big bags. And so whoever bids on
the tree and is the winner then just
bags it up and takes it home. Put
it in the Volkswagen Islands. That's right.

(04:41):
Yes. And a lot of, local businesses
have kind of added to the values of
the individual trees by offering
sponsorships,
gift cards,
certificates,
two for ones, that kind of thing.
So these different organizations,
it's gonna be really interesting to see what's

(05:02):
going on on each tree. Oh, very cool.
So they're little ornaments competitive.
Are they ornaments? Well, they're gift cards. Yeah.
Gift cards like as ornaments on the tree
then? Well, the certificates.
Yeah. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Come get,
25%
off at our next level. Saying some of
the names,
where some of the just rattle off some

(05:22):
of the Yeah. Well, okay. We've got the
Zoya Quilt Guild. The The Quilt Guild. Yeah.
Okay. And they have been going
strong and everything on their tree is gonna
be handmade. Wow. And they're gonna have we
have seen them in the Grange before. Yeah.
They're very active. Yeah. Right. Okay. And we've
got, Checo Community Cares,

(05:43):
the,
library,
the Nurtured Beginnings. I think that's a new
nonprofit
in town. To get them on the radio.
And,
Soroptimis, of course. Yep. Soroptimis International, Brookings.
The South Coast Humane Society is going to
be there.

(06:04):
Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Come support your
poochies.
Yeah. How how long has the festival or
this this event been going on? Well, I
was trying to find that out. And, apparently,
when Ray's was in the South Coast Shopping
Center k. It they had it in their
parking lot. Oh, outside. And so it was

(06:25):
an outside, which is kinda iffy. Right? Then
it might have gone away during the COVID
year. Right. So it was really getting the,
very strong and then COVID just, like, it
did a lot of things. David, right? Off.
Yeah. Wow. Now are there all everybody who
works there, are they volunteers?
Yes. Everybody's a volunteer. Just like here in
the radio. Right? That's it. Yeah. Yeah. And

(06:47):
it's an annual event since, you know, we're
doing Christmas trees? Right. And, you know, trying
to get that scheduled in, you know, because
we forgot what do we have? We have
the Christmas bazaar. We have Thanksgiving.
You mean in the Grange? Yeah. This was
our weekend we had to take right now.
Okay. So let's let's tell that date right
now. Alright. This Saturday, December 6

(07:08):
at the Grange in Harbor,
10AM,
and we're gonna go to about five or
six.
That last hours when people can start Right.
Pulling their trees off. Yeah. Making it is
this are they all real trees or are
they artificial trees? Well, we have like I
would like to say that Cascade,

(07:29):
Lumber
has helped us
get,
have sponsored us getting,
six foot Doug fir trees.
Wow.
Nice. Just walking in there smells wonderful. We
set the trees up today, and it's just,
yeah, so refreshing.
I drove there. You haven't by there. There
were cars in front of me. Cascade? Yeah.
Down in the parking lot, they they The

(07:50):
Grange? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Wait. Wait. I at Cascade, they have a
big parking lot full of Yeah. But that
was a little while back. Now they're in
the Grange.
Grange. Okay. I don't okay. That's good. We
took all the trees and put them in
the Grange.
Right.
Go ahead. Is it is the event growing
now that you're in the Grange? It's kind
of

(08:11):
limited possibly,
or do you can you still have some
growth in how many trees Yeah. It seems
like, can I hold all those trees and
people? Well, I heard at one time
I heard at one time, there were 20
organizations,
and
we can and this time, just getting back
after COVID, we have 15. So just,

(08:32):
you know, getting back in the waters.
But it can definitely grow, and we could
go to another
to another venue and still all supply our
volunteer,
you know, labor.
And so The Grange could still pick things
up.
Yeah.
So you still have more room in the
Grange. And then have you and then you

(08:52):
had it at the Cascade Parking Lot. Have
there been other venues, or do you have
your eye on some of the Cascade Parking
Lot. Ray's Ray's Park. Yeah. That was a
that was a ways to go. Alright. What's
your favorite thing
that you like doing as the coordinator for
this nonprofit that you're involved with? Charity?
Well,
for the last well, last several hours, just

(09:16):
until I came here, I've been making
peanut brittle. I I found out how to
make that. Some of the members have their
special recipes. We're also going to have a
big bake sale. You forgot to bring us
some, babe. Oh, darn it. Yeah. Didn't I?
Well, it's cooling. You know? And there's
secrets to making peanut bread. I'm not eating
anything sweet.

(09:38):
I have stopped. So how do how do
people get a hold of you if they're
interested?
If they wanna find more about the Grange
or any of our programs They're on Pine
Tree. We're on Facebook.
You know, we're the Check Code Grange. Facebook.
Brookings, Oregon. Okay. So real easy for us
to pop right up right now. Easiest way.
But if people don't want is there a

(09:59):
w w w spot or is there an
email or phone number? We're we're getting it
together. We have it. And so that's the
Grange, but not really the chair. Brook check
Co Grange. K. So Yeah. That's the gym.
But how about that tree event, the Jerican?
Tree event?
Well, right now, we're down to The Wire.
Okay. So it's a little late? Yeah. Yeah.

(10:20):
Come to the show and find out. You
know, actually, if there's cars outside the Grange,
we're working on it. Just stop by and
and we'll You love this kind of work?
You love keeping busy like this doing I
think I do. Yeah. I must. What's your
favorite thing? You were mentioning some things, but
what is the least liked thing about your
job as a coordinator? Is there something that
You know, volunteer wrestling.

(10:42):
It is a little bit I like it.
Oh my god. That's great. Everybody means well
and wants to do their best, but it's
just getting it all coordinated. Right. You know,
it can be a little iffy at times.
Okay. One more time. Give everybody what day
and the time and, where.
Okay. Cherry Tree, this Saturday,
December 6 at the Grange in Harbor, 10AM

(11:07):
to 6PM.
Right. On. And I didn't say Santa's gonna
be there too. Ho ho ho. Yeah. Santa's
is it the same oh, it is the
only Santa that's up at the Azalea Park.
Yes. It's a safe and there's live music.
Right. Oh, do we know who's playing? Well,
the ukulele John. Right on. Yeah. Right? He's

(11:28):
cool. Wow. Okay. Leonard Stagg Brown, thank you
for coming. Once again, you were on the
show couple years ago. You said, I wanted
to ask you before you leave. What did
one snowman say to the other snowman?
Do you smell carrots?
And you know you do know how to
talk to a giant. Right? No. Use big

(11:49):
words.
That's very funny.
Alright. Well, thanks again, Linda. Thank you. Good
luck with that. We'll try to stop by.
Everybody is at The Grange this Saturday. You'll
see the crowd as you drive by in
101. It's kind of across the street in
that area from, the big, the McKay's and
that shopping center with the,
Dollar Tree and those other businesses there. So,

(12:10):
yeah, good luck. Raise, the money, and I'm
sure so many people are very happy that
you're doing this for them. And thank you
for having me. Alright. You're welcome. Take care.
Linda Stagg Brown is there. Okay. I,
we have a second guest here
that I am really just fascinated with and
who is,
has come to a I don't know. He's

(12:31):
come,
yeah. He's come to a to us under
unusual circumstances that Gigi will ask those questions.
But
he brings centuries of musical history to life
through his fingertips, and that is through the
harp. For the harp is one of the
world's oldest instruments.
It's traced its roots back to more than

(12:51):
five thousand years ago when I was born
in ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia.
And over time, the harp found its place
in the courts of Europe and traditional music
of where Ireland and Wales, right? They play
the harp so beautifully.
Eventually, it came to the realm of orchestras
and the modern acoustic performances.
Yet,
despite its timeless beauty,

(13:12):
the harp
remains somewhat of a rarity today. It's a
whisper amongst the electric guitars and digital beats.
Its complexity, its size and ethereal tone make
it both a challenge and a revelation to
audiences
used to more familiar sounds.
The harp plays a special nostalgic place in
my heart for nearly twenty five years ago

(13:34):
after surviving a bout of kidney cancer
and having been cut wide open in half
at Stanford University.
The healing time afterwards,
was helped a lot by
a harp that I invested in and that's
what I did while I was healing for
a year. I found that the harp, unlike

(13:56):
any other instrument,
it sounds beautiful and chanting even if a
novice just plucks on the strings.
This is what I learned to do, and
over time my love for the harp continued
to grow. Today, we discover that sound with
a guest who will share his life and
craft with us, and at the end of
this program,
play several of his original composition.

(14:17):
Music that bridges the ancient and the modern,
reminding us why the harp still casts
its magical spell. That's enough for me. Doctor.
Gigi and I wish to welcome Jerry Randall
Bauer
to the Doc and Jacques Show. Welcome Jerry.
Welcome Jerry Bauer. Thank you. And thanks for
bringing your harp. Yeah. Very cool. We'll get

(14:40):
to that. Gigi, lead off some questions for
her. Jerry. Okay. We always start with the
same questions. Where were you born and raised?
Where was I born? I was born on
Bergstrom Air Force Base
in Austin, Texas. Oh, okay. Way back in
the olden days.
Yeah. So when did you settle here then?

(15:02):
Well, as you may guess from being born
on an air force base, my dad was
in the military. Yeah. Oh, shoot. I didn't
know that. So
so, like, every two years or so, we
would move. So where was I raised? Pretty
much all over the country. Oh, I see.
We were never stationed overseas, although my dad
was a couple times, but the family stayed
here.

(15:22):
So I was raised
Everywhere.
The biggest
part of my life has been
since I graduated high school, I've lived in
California.
So Yeah. The bulk of my life was
in the Bay Area Cool. In Santa Clara.
I'm in San Francisco. Here we go. And

(15:44):
The rest of the day later did you
actually make it up to?
So let's see. From from 1970
until 2014,
I lived in the Bay Area. Uh-huh. And
I was a software engineer and a hardware
engineer and just a tech guy Oh, cool.
Doing all sorts of electronical
stuff.

(16:05):
As far as I'm concerned,
the entire purpose
of electronics and computers
is making music.
You know? I mean, that's that's kind of
the That's the muse musician speaking.
And
so whenever I would
build like a hobby instrument or something, a
hobby

(16:25):
computer,
it would be an instrument. I'd make it
make music.
How interesting. Yeah. Wow. And the companies that
I worked for,
did not directly
provide this, but for example, the first company
that I worked for was an integrated circuits
company.
And often, integrated circuits

(16:48):
are binned out.
By binning, I mean,
good, better, best, and
discard.
So I would have access to chips that
wouldn't meet spec,
but I could still use them. Oh, boy.
So Sounds cool.
Those were your Legos Lego
pieces.
Yeah. You built stuff like that. I got

(17:09):
to play with stuff. Yeah. Very nice. Nate,
before we go any further, tell us how
we met. How did how did you find
out about us? How did I find out
about you? Well, I met you, I think
I knew,
at the Pride
Art Show at the
Oh. At the gallery. At the gallery. You
came in with bubble guns.
Oh, that's right. Okay. There you go. Cool.

(17:31):
I think our paths may have crossed before,
but I hadn't actually, you know, interacted with
you before that. Alright. Do you have a
daughter? No. I do. Okay. Alright. Just wanted
to know. I there was another gal that
was seemed said the same last name as
yours, and I thought it might be your
name. It's German. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Howard
is a German name.
How long have you been playing the harp,

(17:51):
Jerry? I picked up the harp in
2002.
Relatively modern times.
Yeah.
Not in the middle ages. There's a little
story.
This was about the time that eBay
had started.
Been going for a couple years.
And

(18:12):
my younger son
had been bicycling around the neighborhood and stopped
at a garage sale and found a couple
of David Winter
cottages.
These are collectible
ceramic
Wow. Porcelain
Little cottages. Like Kinkade.

(18:32):
Yeah. Yeah.
And he recognized them as being more valuable
than the seller.
Right. So
he bought them
for minimal, I don't remember what it was,
with the idea of selling them and buying
something that he wanted. I think it was
a skateboard that he was looking at.

(18:54):
So he got my wife, Kathy
well, he didn't get her to, but he
asked her to to get an eBay account
so that he could sell them online.
So she did.
And
she started looking at what else was available
on this eBay event. EBay is a new
thing. It was And she said,

(19:16):
hey, to me, she said, hey, did you
know there are harps
on eBay?
I said, No.
This is my first indication
really that
it was possible for just an ordinary guy
like me to own a harp.
Cool.
So did you play a harp before, or
was it could have been

(19:36):
anything just by
serendipity?
I mean, that is really cool. You know,
I think
a lot
of people think, wouldn't it be cool to
play a harp? Or Yeah. I've always wanted
to play the harp or something like that.
Right.
I come from,
kind of a musical

(19:58):
background
ish
without any kind of real academic background.
You know, I grew up in
church choirs and school choirs and stuff like
that,
but
was not really on a kind of musical
path. I was on a math science kind
of
neurosurgeon. It goes hand in hand. It's all
a genius, I think.

(20:21):
So, you know, I played piano. I I
played piano until I was 12 and said,
mom, I don't wanna do this anymore,
which is what happens to boys at age
12. Yeah. Same with me. I think that's
what I did. Yeah.
But I kept playing the piano. We had
a piano in the house, so I would
mess around with it, so I kept playing.
And was just

(20:42):
kind of musically inclined.
So
How how neat and and I guess you
could still I'm gonna go on eBay right
after this because I wanna how many harps
do you own?
Doing math now.
I think I'm down to six.
Okay. You wanna sell one? Call me up.

(21:02):
I'm interested. Did you make any of them?
Two of them. Actually, three of them. Wait.
You make harps?
Well, this one that I have that you'll
hear later Yeah. You brought one in. Thank
you. Made from a kit,
heavily modified.
I started off with a kit and I
messed with it. I've got one that I
made from scratch

(21:23):
Woah.
With commodity birch boards from Home Depot.
Wow. And,
one of them was
another kit. This is a cardboard
harps. Can you
The sound box is made of cardboard. The
frame is made of wood. Wow.
Wow. Just

(21:44):
it's not hard. It's not that hard. Okay.
And how big are some of these harps?
So the one you got sitting next to
you sits about,
I'm gonna say what, about three feet tall?
Maybe. Maybe in two feet wide?
Classic harp shape. This is a 26
string.
My
largest harp

(22:05):
by string count
is a 42 string,
and it's a little bit strange. It's a
cross
strung harp,
where it's fully chromatic. It has
a set of strings
Oh, they cross. That intersect.
Like x's Oh, he's putting his fingers between

(22:25):
Yeah. I'm making a big x out of
all my fingers because all the strings
on this harp cross.
One set of them is the regular harp
strings, which are the white keys on the
piano.
The other set of strings
are the black notes.
So this is a fully chromatic harp. Cool.
Wow.
And, you know, I wish I could play

(22:45):
it,
but I'm I'm still working on it. Right.
I truly believe the biggest harp I had
was twice the size of that one, but
it came out of Pakistan. Pakistan, Afghanistan, they
make harps. I know that. Yeah, the Pakistani
harps have gotten better lately. Back when they
were
on eBay, when my wife Kathy said their
harps on eBay,

(23:06):
there was this whole set of
rosewood with heavy Celtic
carvings in them. Right. Right. The only harps
I've ever seen implode on themselves have been
Implode on themselves. Yes. From the strings.
They like the strings pull it together. Yeah.
They they've gotten better.
Okay. I hope so. Because I'm serious. I'm

(23:27):
looking I'm looking to buy Oh, no. It
doesn't instrument.
Well, we have a we have a piano
we never played. Very little. Oh. And my
flute, I I got I got into the
transverse silver flute for a year, and then
I just kinda hung it up one day
and I got We have a guitar. Yeah.
Alright, Gigi. Ask ask the next questions. What
do you have there?

(23:47):
What what am I supposed to ask?
What Okay. I'm I'm more interested in
the so the black thingies, the the black,
you know, the piano, the black keys, they
are usually not found on the, harps? That's
true for most harps.

(24:07):
Not not the one that I just mentioned.
Right. And there and there are some other
arrangements.
So do they follow different tones? Do they
not go the c, g, a, b, c,
d? They they just play the white notes
on the piano. Oh, so they always do
the white notes. Notes. You just don't have
the half notes? That's correct.
The big golden orchestral harps that you see,

(24:29):
those are called pedal harps. Yeah. Yeah. Those
ones that cost, like, 20 or $30. They're
expensive. Yeah. 20 or $30. So expensive. $20,000.
Yeah. Well, that that's a cheap one. Oh.
They have seven pedals.
O m g. Okay. So there's a pedal
for each
kind of black note. Yeah. So the d

(24:50):
flat, the e flat, the g flat, the
a flat, and the b flat, or the
sharps if you wanna go in harmonic.
So if you're playing it in a different
key, you can quickly change them to be
in that key by saying, oh, we're in
the key of g. I need f sharps.
So bang. Oh my gosh. So you need
to actually really understand the music. Do you
read notes? I do, but not very well.

(25:13):
I have to learn a piece. I have
to read it and study it and learn
it, basically.
I I don't sight read well. I can't
So you play by
ear? Mostly. Yeah. Yeah. I used to play
by ear and then I started using my
hands. It works better. Yeah. It does. It
sounds a lot better too. But I mean
it. When they when I would play the

(25:35):
harp, you can literally give it to a
kid and let them just strum across it.
It sounds good. Unlike a piano, they could
hear kids banging on the piano. One of
the great things about
harp
is, as you say, it's immediately gratifying. Right.
It really is. You can't make it sound
bad
That's true. Until you get good at it

(25:56):
and then you can make it sound bad.
Yeah. So my nephew, he is mister musician.
He plays all kinds of instruments. He started
the harp as well. He did? Yeah. Hey,
David Furlosse. I know. Right. And Madeline. Yeah.
So he played it, and it sounded really
so he played he tried to play a
song. I don't remember what it was. But,

(26:17):
really, he just kind of went note note
clunker note. But then he just not thinking
about the gay about the song. He just
goes with his fingers and it just sounds,
you know, very nicely. So I guess
if you have the music
in intuition, you can make it sound good
with your reading notes or not reading notes.
Right? Yeah. And

(26:40):
it's such a pleasant sound that even if
you make mistakes,
it sounds good. Yes. I hear you. So
usually when you listen to the harp, you
don't just hear plunk, plunk, plunk. You hear
this whole array of good
sounding notes together, right, pre four or so
so? You hear arpeggios.
Arpeggios?

(27:01):
Yeah. That's what I mean. What does that
mean? Well, the ARP part of that is
harp.
The arpeggio. So if you play a
a series of notes
in a chord on the piano Yeah. It's
called an arpeggio
because it's a harp noise. Oh. It's it's
the sound a harp makes. So Like, just

(27:21):
sounding well together? Like like just like any
three notes.
Wow. Like that? Yeah. Wow. And and they
just sound
good. But you have to know which ones
to pluck. Right?
Yeah. Mostly.
Now you you do mostly
I I gotta say this first. You know,
you talked a little bit about this. I
think you have synesthesia.

(27:43):
I think she thinks you think it too
because she has it big time. And you
were talking about and synesthesia is where you
equate
things and colors and numbers.
Like she sees something orange and she sees
the number 24.
How do you Yeah. I I don't really
have any, like,

(28:04):
cross sense,
interaction. Well, you do because you see a
box and you want the music to come
out. That's cool. Well, yeah. I see an
instrument and and think, how can I make
that release it? Right? See, I can see
a bunch of instruments and I will never
think of that. So I think that's a

(28:24):
form of synesthesia. I think that's really cool.
Could be. You've been playing me, doctor, for
a long time.
Do you do you have any mentors or
people or artists that you,
that you looked
liked?
Yes.
Especially with regards to the harp. Because when
I bought the harp, I figured it'd be

(28:45):
just like any other instrument that I've had,
that I'd pick it up and learn to
play it.
And I didn't.
Okay.
So I engaged an instructor. Her name is
Verline,
and she is
the leader of
the harp group that I was in in
San Jose.
She was my first teacher and

(29:06):
just
kind of a guiding light for a number
of musicians in the area
because
she has a very,
oh, mistake tolerant attitude Good. If you will.
That's a good teacher.
She's
She
will meet you where you are.

(29:27):
As a teacher, she will always try to
make you better.
But it's always
so encouraging and so welcoming and so
uplifting. Right on. Yeah. I gotta speak in
of uplifting, and we have to stop right
here because time flies when we're having fun.
It's already that mid break time here on
the Doc and Jacques Live radio show proudly
broadcasting from the KCIW

(29:48):
one hundred point seven
FM studios in lovely Coastal Brookings, Oregon. The
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(30:11):
and Lisa Riel. I just ran into Nick
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And yeah. And we love his PPA or
the Partnership for the Performing Arts. Thank you
so much. And Lisa, his wife too.
And lastly, my dear co host doctor Gigi
Reed, MD, and yours truly,
on behalf of c KCIW,

(30:31):
thanks to all of you. We're back with,
Jerry Randall Bauer who is talking about the
harp
and very interesting things. You mentioned a few
things, when we were trying to find out
about you, and you did answer my Facebook,
post where I said we're we're up against
the clock here. We had a cancellation. Who

(30:51):
was interested
in being on the show? So many people
reached out, and I we gotta do this
more often because really you came in, you
were one of the first ones and were
fascinated with what you do
and your expertise with the harp.
But you mentioned some things about MIM. Could
you tell our audience what MIM is? Okay.
There's

(31:12):
a Museum of Musical Instruments.
Museum of Well, Music Instruments Museum, MIM. The
MIM, right. They're in Scottsdale,
Arizona.
But Phoenix, they're in Phoenix.
I haven't been there in
like ten years.
But

(31:33):
it's really a fascinating place.
They have
a large number
of curated
instruments,
and one of the most fascinating things is
that they have
a section of the museum that basically goes
country by country by country. Oh, cool. Yeah.

(31:54):
Wow. Around the world with different musical instruments.
And it's fascinating to me, anyway,
if you start,
say, at the
westernmost bulge of Africa,
like Morocco,
and just go south along that coast and
down
the entire West Coast Of Africa.

(32:18):
They have
similar
instruments, similar class of instruments of,
you know, whatever their stringed instruments are, whatever
their percussion instruments are, whatever their
flutes,
whatever kind of instruments they are. But they're
all subtly different.
And you can just
see
the relationships with those. Same thing happens in,

(32:41):
Southeast Asia.
And you can go along and
go from like India,
Thailand, down
Malaysia, and then up the coast of China
and so forth and just see the instruments.
Evolution,
Like the changing of the Yeah. I don't
know if it's through time, but it's certainly

(33:02):
across cultures and sharing across cultures. And
it's just fascinating to me that, the same
kinds of instruments
with differences to them. And
But you did not like to go there.
Why not? Well,
I do like it. I really
thoroughly enjoy the museum.

(33:24):
But what I don't like, and this is
true of all museums, really.
Any time
that you have to preserve something, you kind
of have to
put it in a box. Mhmm. You
preserve it.
And these musicians that,
donate their museum,
their pieces to the museum or the museum

(33:46):
acquires it, they've got,
guitars from
famous guitarists,
like Elvis, for example. They'll have one of
Elvis' car,
guitars.
It's behind glass. Yeah. It doesn't sing anymore.
It's
just
a thing now. It's not an instrument. It's
just Right. I thought that was sweet. You

(34:07):
used the word mummification. Mummification.
Yeah. Mummified.
It becomes an artifact.
But,
they do try to address this to some
extent in that they have
audio,
examples of these. So give you a pair
of headphones
and you can go from exhibit to exhibit.

(34:27):
And they've got,
places where they show
how the instruments are made, you know? Yeah.
What's in them, how they work.
They have,
a section of mechanical
music. Oh, I like that. Yeah. I really
love mechanical music because they have a big
Unique.
A big band organ.

(34:49):
Right.
Right. Makes big noise.
And they play, like, hourly or something. I
forgot they got herty girdies. They got yeah.
Right? Herty girdies. So
that's kind of what what Nick Roehl does.
Right? He he takes
abandoned or donated or discarded instruments and brings
them back to life. So Many times he
does. And he's trained people at the, Del

(35:10):
Norte High School Yeah. Crescent City to do
this. We're they're one of the few facilities
in The United States now that is repairing
musical
instruments. So cool. Really. Right? Crazy.
Gigi asked him about a few plays.
What should I ask? About public. Okay. Do
you ever
you're so bad. Do you ever play publicly?
Oh, of course not. I would never play

(35:32):
for anybody else.
Yes. I do.
Weddings?
Parties?
What is it? I I have played
weddings. I have played parties,
funerals,
gatherings. I played at the
the Pride Art Show,
where I met you and Jacques. Mhmm.

(35:54):
What I really like to do is when
the weather is nice,
it looks like it's going to be Nice
sunny evening. A nice sunset,
low
wind, no rain.
I like to go out by the ocean.
There's a spot on Pebble Beach Drive that
I like to go out Oh, across the
city. Yeah. And play while the sun sets.
Oh, on a bench? Sitting on a bench

(36:15):
on ours? Well, I take my little stool
so I can sit there and other people
can use the benches.
They're mad. Yes. I like to do that.
Fantastic.
Okay. I would love, I think everybody will
agree with this. I would love to hear
you start playing.
So if you wanna get yourself,
squared up over there. Just talk for a

(36:36):
minute. Yeah. No problem. We'll talk and not
you have another joke for sure. We also
got me at jokes? Are you kidding me?
Do you know any jokes? Really? Did you
know that a cauliflower is actually a plant
explosion
in extremely
slow motion?
Yeah. I I got food poisoning. I got
I got food poisoning

(36:57):
today, doctor. Yeah. But I don't know when
I'm gonna use it.
That's pretty did I tell the one about
oh, yes. Last night at a local restaurant,
I said, waiter, there's a fly in my
soup.
And he replied, oh, don't worry. The spider
that's in your bread will eat it.

(37:17):
Okay.
Alright. We got Jerry Bauer here in the
studio with his harp. And please, is this
an original we're gonna hear from? No. I
think I'll save the originals for the end.
Okay. Just play what play your heart's content.
We got about ten, fifteen minutes to play
here. Okay.
Well, let's see. These are just Celtic tunes.
The first

(37:38):
several are
ocean or water based things. The first one
is one called Fyr a Vata,
which is Gaelic for the boatman.
Fear water? That's what I would have thought.
Fear is man and a Vata is
Vata is boat. Oh, okay. And it was
written, I cannot remember the name of the

(37:59):
author.
As, you know,
her husband or her boyfriend or paramour or
whatever
has gone
out fishing on a boat, and she's waiting
for me to return. Alright. Let's hear

(39:31):
Wow. Nice.
So was that was that the is that
an original harp song, or is that transposed
to be a harp song?
It was probably originally just voice, but I
don't know.
Wow. Cool. It it has words, but I
don't know. Is that like an ancient song?
No. It's

(39:52):
probably late nineteenth century, I think. Oh. But
maybe early twentieth. I don't remember.
Very cool. Okay. Nice. Alright. What's up next?
Let's see. If I just go down the
list Yeah. Down the list. Here. She moved
through the fair, which is a traditional
Irish piece,
and it's

(40:13):
debated what it's about.
I think the most common
interpretation of it
is that
it's about
a wedding,
but the woman has died. Yeah.
So she is
moving about
ethereally.
Wow. Nice. Alright.

(42:28):
Wow.
Woah. So that is,
Irish, did you say? Yes. So you know
there's a Irish band down in Crescent City?
Yeah. There Yeah.
Michael Schmidt and his group,
what are they called? McCooled? The McCooled. McCooled?
Yeah. They play at Porta Pints? Yeah. They
play at Porta Pints. Yeah. They play at
Porta Pints. Yeah. They play at Porta Pints.
Yeah. They play at Porta Pints. Yeah. They
play at Porta Pints. Yeah. They play they
played quite a bit of places.

(42:50):
I I I'm watching you watching Gigi watch
you.
Some of those strings are red. Is that
the c's? Is that Yes. As I recall?
And then the f is the blue ones?
Yeah. And and the rest are white. You
have to guess what they are.
They're in alphabetical order. So that the red
ones, there's space between that's a full octave.
Yes.
Yeah. It's almost in tune.

(43:13):
You know, now with digital,
you know, little handheld tuners like the baby
one. Yeah. The little baby one. Little tiny
thing. It's easy to tune nowadays.
Easier.
Easier. Yeah. I have a tuner on my
phone that I use. Oh, yeah. You could
do that too. Alright.
Okay. So,
doctor Gigi told me to put tomato sauce
on the shopping list yesterday, so I did.
Mhmm. And now I can't read it.

(43:36):
On the shopping list. Yeah. Okay. Ray Ray's
laughing in the other room. Okay.
Right.
Okay. Yeah. Got it. Got it. Yeah. You
got it. Okay. Yep. Alright. Let's we've got
plenty of time. We've got about fifteen or
actually ten minutes. Let's just keep this ball
rolling. I wanted to ask you,
you you go to the beach oftentimes
or on a perfect night or an evening,

(43:57):
you'll go out there and sit and, man,
that must attract a lot
of Bystanders,
right? Bystanders. Sometimes it does.
When I can, when I can trust the
forecast,
I will put out an event on Facebook
that says I'll be out there. Oh, well,
now we need to And then be alerted
to that.

(44:17):
Then I will get maybe fifteen, twenty people.
Wow. A lot. Yeah. So what Facebook do
you use? What what address?
It's Mary Harp Harpman? Randall Well Bauer? Just
yeah. But that's that's my and I'll put
it there too. When I post it as
an event, I will put it on the
various announcement groups. Oh, yeah. What's happening in

(44:38):
around the area. By the way, I got
Jack's List now. So everybody
could could email me a Jack's List for
you.
You can amplify it if you want. That's
fine. There you go. Okay. So I have
another question about I saw you plucking those,
strings, and sometimes you do it with the
fingernails and sometimes you do it with the
fingertips as it looks like from my view.

(44:59):
You know, my harp teacher would just be
appalled at my technique.
But but, yeah,
the nail gives it that that bite Yeah.
And the the flesh causes
dizzy. Nice. Yeah. I heard the difference there.
Yeah. Right? Okay. So you have to have
very strong

(45:20):
tip fingertips then? Or do you have leathery
skin there? It's
it's it's not
It's not harsh on them? Like the guitar,
you know, when you have Right. It's not
like Oh. It's not like the left hand
on a guitar. Oh, Although,
I've grown nails for the purpose of playing
the harp, so
Yeah, I do too. I've given up on

(45:40):
my fretted instruments.
My six string fretted harp. Yeah.
Yeah. Hey. By the way, how do you,
I asked my dog. What's two minus two?
He said nothing.
Good. Smart dog.
Nice. I think we're gonna move to more

(46:02):
music. Okay.
Let's let's we we've got a full
ten minutes to play with. So let's have
fun. Folks, Jerry Bauer is in the studio
playing his harps. The real harp and not
just the Hey. I I you know what
I wanna do? I play the harmonica. So
it's a harp as we call it in
there. Right?
Have you ever thought about you and I
should get together and you play that and
I'll play the harmonica? I nobody's doing harp

(46:24):
and harp. Yeah. I wonder why.
Darn it.
I'm glad for your encouragement,
doctor doctor Gigi. Thank you so much. Oh
my goodness.
Oh my. I have a Hohner chrhamonica that
I haven't played in years.
Yeah. You got some I got them I
got all the keys. You put two both
together. You have them right now. I got

(46:44):
all
I got all the keys. So we
could do it. We'd have to pick up
bass. Alright. What else do you have? What's
the next one? Well, let's see.
Probably the most famous
Irish harper
is Turlough o' Carillon.
Turlock. Turlock?
Yeah. Turlock.

(47:05):
He lived in the seventeen hundreds.
Wow.
And One of those guys.
Yeah.
And
wrote many, many pieces that are are Or
the harp. Yeah. They're
well known in the harp community anyway.
So I would be remiss if I didn't
play one of them. Okay. Play the most

(47:26):
known one. Alright. Well, he's gotta play whatever
one he wants. Well, then he didn't just
say it's the most known one. I don't
know the most known one. Okay. I'll deck
the second one. I'll go to the second
most known one. Let's see. This is
he invented a word No. Called planksy.
Planksty
is unique to his vocabulary and nobody's really

(47:49):
sure what he meant by it. But Blanksty.
It's basically
a tune for a person.
He was blind,
I think, from smallpox as a child. Oh,
damn blind. So he lost his vision
and earned his living as an itinerant Harper.
He would go around to various
patrons
and play

(48:10):
Play it blind. Okay.
Those guys. It would be the red string
or the blue string. Right.
And
as part of that, he would compose pieces
for them.
Oh, cool. K. I see. So Planksy would
be Planksy would be, you know, the weird
music for you and the weird music for
me. Right. Weird music for me. Okay. Yeah.

(48:31):
I'm a good one for that one. And
there's
a 100 some odd of these.
Probably the best known one is this one.
It's called Plank Steve Fanny Power. Fanny? Oh,
he did it for Fanny. He liked Fanny.
Fanny Power. Oh, he liked Fanny. Yeah. The
the funny part of that is, you know,

(48:51):
the Irish
name for this is about
17
characters long, f a n n I u
g h.
And,
the English
transliteration of it is fanny. Oh. And the
English word fanny is somewhat obscene.
Oh. Oh. Yeah. Well, fanny means, you know,

(49:11):
what? I mean Well like the butt? I
think In America, it means Butt what? The
butt butt. In America, it means the butt.
Yeah. In Alright. We don't wanna know. In
British English, it's
it's cruder. Okay. Let's hear Fanny,
the flank seat. First, it's kind of a
a cross cultural joke. Okay. Let's hear Jerry

(49:33):
Brown.

(50:26):
Oh, my goodness. That did
had my foot tapping.
Right?
Hey, Gigi, what did the fish say when
it hit the wall? What? Damn.
Okay. Okay. That that was out of out
of What about the fish the goldfish in
the tank? Oh, yeah. What there's two there's
two goldfish in a tank and one says
the other, hey, man. Do you know how

(50:47):
to drive this thing?
In a tank. Okay.
Let's hear some of your original stuff. An
original piece. Yeah. Let's hear some original stuff.
Ray's Ray's laughing on that one. Okay. Look
at him. Look at him. He's still just
laughing.
Our our engineer is cracking up. That was
good.

(51:20):
Good.

(52:56):
Wow.
Very nice. What is it called? It's called
the and she danced.
Oh, very sweet. So would you take your
finger and just strum from the high
high
low to the high, whatever which way you
wanna go. Listen.
Oh, I feel like I'm dreaming. You know,
really.
See

(53:16):
I mean, isn't that amazing? That's when you
a kid can get on it, you know,
and they just do that, and it sounds
nice. But tell us about the And She's
Dancing song. Why did you write it?
Oh, okay.
The harp group that I was in in
San Jose called Harper's Hall Uh-huh. Had an
annual retreat in Pescadero.

(53:38):
Alright. Cool. And, you know, a diversion here.
That's why I'm here. That's why I'm Ah,
we never found out. Right?
And
there
there were a variety of people in this
club, some of whom
danced.
Oh. So To so the harp players and

(54:00):
then the dancers danced to the harp? Not
necessarily. Oh. But,
the retreat was just a retreat. It wasn't
to do anything.
Oh, okay. It was to not do anything.
So it was just to get away. Yeah.
Do the leisurely. So so we would go
over to Pescadero,
which, if you don't know, is is just

(54:20):
over the coastal range from San Jose. It's
on the San Mateo Coast. Right. So it's
between Santa Cruz and San Francisco.
So when I retired,
we were looking for a place to land.
We wanted to get out of
San Jose, which is just a major metropolis.
Right. So massive.

(54:43):
So we looked where people were retiring, like
the West Slope Of The Sierra and stuff
like that. But we decided
that since we loved Pescadero so much, we
wanted to be somewhere on the coast.
So we started looking along the coast and
moving
north until
our budget and the coast
intersected,
which was somewhere around Ferndale.

(55:05):
Yeah. But,
I research everything. In quaint land? No. You
don't research anything. I could tell.
I did research. So, yeah, I looked at
the seismicity
Yeah. Of of the area around Ferndale and
said, no. Yeah. That's That's no better than
the Bay Area. Yeah.
Cool. Crescent City is seismically quiet. Right? Yeah.

(55:27):
Yeah. Yeah. We live with the for the
title plan. Alright. Well, listen. We have one
more we have two minutes. If you could
play something with a couple minutes of an
original.
Do you play any, like, punk rock
Oh, all the time. All the time, I
put get into my amp, crank it to
11. Okay. Let's hear something else from Jerry
Bauer here on the harp. Let's see.

(55:48):
Harpist Choice.
This this is called Sapphire Eyes
and it's
Is it emotional? Yep.
Okay.
We'll place our eyes for us and and
get it going. I like it.

(58:02):
Wow. There we go. Yeah. That was so
nice. Randall Bello. Thank you for coming in
the studio. Thanks to the spontaneously
good, show we have had here. We are
right up against the clock, folks. Gigi, tell
us what's happening next. Thanks again. And to
Linda Stagg Brown.
Yes. Thank you all for coming.
You have been listening to the Doc and
Jacques show on KCRW

(58:23):
one hundred point seven FM in Brookings, Oregon.
We hope you have enjoyed our show as
much as we have, learning about the Harpmeister,
Jerry Bauer. Yeah. Thanks indeed.
Peace and prosperity to everyone out there. Thanks
again, Tom and
Ray and Linda and all the other people
that have been listening. We really appreciate it.
Reach out to us by going to docandjock@gmail.com

(58:44):
and tell us what is going on. Stay
tuned for who? Tony Dorsos. Tony Dorsos up
next, folks. Peace of love. See you next
week.
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