December 20, 2025 • 59 mins
In this episode of the Doc & Jacques radio variety show, Dr. Gigi Reed and Jacques Kepner talk with Lacey Young, a singer-songwriter from Gold Beach. Lacey shares her journey from growing up in Gold Beach to discovering her passion for music in her thirties. She discusses her musical influences, ranging from classic rock to country, and details her songwriting process, which draws on personal experiences and emotions. Lacey also talks about performing with her group, Rogue Strings, and the energizing dynamic she shares with her bandmate Yana. The show includes live performances of three original songs, with Lacey offering insight into the inspiration behind them.
Hosts: GiGi “Doc” Reed MD, Jacques Kepner; Producers: GiGi “Doc” Reed MD, Jacques Kepner
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(00:09):
Welcome, everyone. You have now entered the cosmic
radio receptors of
KCIW
one hundred point seven FM in Brookings, Oregon.
Thank you for tuning to this week's
fabulous program. I'm doctor Gigi, and my cohost
is, as always, Jacques Kepner.
How are you, Jacques Key? I'm doing great,
(00:30):
doc. And welcome everyone out there to the
Doc and Jacques Radio Ready Show. Special thanks
to our
sound engineer, Tom Bozek, who's riding solo today.
Thank you, Tom, for coming in and doing
this. You're hearing this live syndicated show on
KCIW in Brookings, Oregon. And that said, the
same syndicated show will be rebroadcast
(00:51):
next week at 8AM
in Eureka,
Arcadia
at,
on kzzh
ninety six point seven FM. So hello, all
you folks down south.
Then a few hours later, it'll it'll appear
on our 1PM
show on my old alma mater, KFUG one
hundred and one point one FM in Crescent
City, California. So now you know, doctor Gigi
(01:14):
and I have got your coasts covered.
Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Oh, okay.
Doctor, it's that time when good medicine and
health tips as presented
by you, my German medical doctor, patent holding
scientist, and a university professor. What medical
marvels
do you have us, for us today on
(01:35):
this week's segment of dot MDGG?
I feel like I've been on vacation. Yeah.
I think you so I think I have
too. Yeah. I think I have. Well, listen
to this. We're talking about SAD, which is
not Standard American diet? I love talking about
that. Right. But this is not what it
is. It's not the standard American diet, which
is terrible. We wish. Right?
Seasonal affective disorder. Uh-huh. It's AD. It is
(01:57):
Depressed as well. It is a type of
depression that follows a seasonal pattern,
most often in fall and winter.
But it can also occur in spring or
summer.
The summer variant is usually called
summer pattern,
sad,
or summer depression, and it's less common than
the winter form. Okay.
(02:19):
What do you call a reindeer with no
eyes?
What?
I have no idea.
Okay. Warming up. I'm warming up. Keep going.
Just tell us more about SAD or seasonal
affective disorder. It's classified as a form of
major depressive disorder with a seasonal pattern. As
I said, there are about
(02:39):
ten million Americans suffering suffering
from
SAD. Those that admit. You know? I mean,
there's so many more than that when you
think about it because Yeah. Probably. They don't
go to the doctor. They just know, I'm
just depressed. Yeah. Exactly. Now, interestingly enough, the
prevalence ranges from one point four percent percent
in Florida. In Florida where it's kinda sunny
(02:59):
all the time. Right? And nine point nine
percent in Alaska.
Wow. So it's not as sunny in Alaska.
I gotcha. If we feel a little bit
down during the winter months, but we really
don't go to the doctor or request or
ask for any treatment.
We might be in an even larger group
that,
that experience what we call winter blues. Woah.
(03:22):
That's a Stevie Ray song. Alright? Stevie Ray
Vaughan. I'm just making it up, but that's
okay. But when a blues okay. Okay. I
told doctor Gigi that I have persistent
thoughts that I am God. Oh. Well, she
asked me how long I've been feeling this
way. And I told her it came on
shortly after I created the sun and the
moon.
(03:44):
What else winter pattern, doctor? The winter pattern,
sad, is much more common than the summer
pattern, sad.
The,
seasonal affective disorders
is, as I kind of hinted to,
linked to the changes in daylight that
disrupt our body's circadian
rhythm, circadian as in day and night
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or the internal clock.
And so we have
the alterations in sleep and wake timing that
make us sad. That's kinda weird because I
know every morning literally, I wake up every
morning, doesn't matter, between 07:35
and and 07:45.
You're up early. Yeah. But it's not we're
gonna just time it. Hey. Why is the
sun so smart? Why is it? Because it
(04:26):
has over 5,000 degrees.
Yeah.
Okay. So we can also see during the
summertime
introduction or cessation
of the SAD because many of us have
a hard time getting adjusted to, you know,
the summertime thing.
The summer the spring forward Yeah. The summertime
(04:48):
called summertime. Whole thing sucks. I think they
should have Spring forward or fall back
time
change. So we also have noticed that some
brain chemicals such as serotonin
and melatonin
have been found to change their amounts with
these with these changes in time and people
who suffer from the SAD. Wow. It seems
(05:08):
like they need DMT.
I don't know. Hey, two scientists are arguing
about how to get their rocket to the
sun without it burning up. Hey, we'll go
at night, says one scientist. The other one
says, you idiot. There is no sun at
night.
So there's also a genetic link to consider
(05:28):
with this SAD,
because there are family members
who have it. So if the and it's
more prevalent in women than in men. But
usually, if somebody in the family has it,
then somebody else in the family has it
too. More likely than if nobody has it
in the family, then no offspring will have
it either.
Okay. If someone burns to death, do they
(05:49):
get a discount at the crematorium?
Family.
Okay. Alright. Where are we doc? Where do
In winter pattern SAD, the people so there's
the difference between summer and winter. In winter
pattern SAD, people typically report low mood, fatigue,
increased sleep,
carbohydrate
cravings. I think I have that all the
(06:09):
time. Weight gain and social withdrawal.
And they it usually starts in the beginning
of fall or early winter and improves in
spring or early summer. Mhmm. I'm so fat.
My shadow
has a shadow.
Okay. That was I was not gonna say
that. Alright. So the summer pattern SAD is
(06:30):
different. Okay. Tell us that. It does have
the depressive episodes,
but it has it it more it involves
more likely poor sleep,
decreased appetite,
restlessness,
and heightened anxiety.
And it starts in the late spring or
summer and eases in the fall. So they're
a little bit opposite of how they function.
Alright. A very sick man goes to his
(06:52):
doctor and he says, doc, how much time
do I have left? The doctor says, ten.
The very sick man says, what? Ten months?
Ten weeks? Ten days? The doctor says, nine.
Oh my god. Eight. Okay. Seven.
Six.
So he'll talk about the treatment of s
eight. Oh, yeah. How do you how do
you light treatment. Right?
So, yeah, if since it is light
(07:13):
cost or the loss of light, there is
actually a full spectrum light that you can
buy, a light bulb or light orchestra
that shines the full spectrum light, all the
little wavelengths into your face. And that twenty
minutes a day or so, that should be
enough. However,
then there is psychotherapy,
which is,
basically discussing it with somebody, and they will
(07:35):
tell you about
measures that you can take that you don't
fall into the trap of being sad
or
antidepressant
medications
such
as serotonin reuptake inhibitors
or and vitamin d
Wow. Supplements. And that's for the winter pattern,
SAD. No. Not for both. You know, I've
(07:56):
told you I wanted to go before I
go.
I wanna go skydiving at least once. And,
hey, by the way, I saw an ad
on Craigslist. Mhmm. It said, you know, parachute.
It was on sale. It said it parachute.
It was used used once and never opened.
It had a small stain in it, though.
So the package was never opened. Okay.
(08:19):
Now another medication that can be given for
it is bupropion
or Wellbutrin. Yeah. I was on that a
long time ago. Yeah. You were. Did you
have SAD?
No. I I had it from g r
I e f, grief. When
I Oh, g r okay. Yeah. Alright. Good.
So vitamin d and lifestyle helps you.
(08:40):
Vitamin d is over the counter.
You can get supplements on that. And it
has been shown there are papers that show
that vitamin d can help with,
you know, scientific papers. Vitamin d can help
with the well-being and being happier and such.
And then there's also papers that say that's
a bunch of hooey.
Yeah. Hey, thank goodness I went to a
(09:01):
psychic.
She warned me that someone was gonna swindle
me out of some money. It's the best
$200 I've ever spent.
Very cute. Okay. Very
Well, lastly,
there are no treatments
that are used for summer pattern sad.
Isn't that interesting? Maybe it is
(09:23):
too
small of a percentage of people who haven't
that they put in an effort or they
haven't seen what really the cause is. But
they do give the same antidepressants
for it. So the medication is the same
to help. Right on. Well, I think it
should all go away. I mean, why do
we have the daylight savings time when suddenly
(09:44):
you were up, you know, until six, the
sun was up I know. Right. I know.
And suddenly 04:30 in the afternoon. That is
kind of depressing. Right. Some states have, like,
Arizona doesn't observe it. Well, so That's what
I hear. That's part of them here. Hey,
did you know that the inventor of
fractions was Louis the one sixteenth?
Hey.
Tell me about the seagulls.
(10:05):
Oh, the the seagulls? Yeah. Well, you know,
seagulls why why do why are they called
seagulls?
But,
what are they called when they're flying over
a bay?
Bagels.
She likes them. I pulled that one out
of my hat. That was tough.
Alright.
Let's move on to the next phase of
this. We're right on time, folks.
(10:27):
I have a short prologue here. It only
lasts about ten minutes.
There's something special
about the Southernmost Oregon Coast and Northernmost California.
It's a place that inspires reflection, a place
where stories and songs are born.
Well, today's headliner on the Doc and Jacques
radio show is a name known to many,
and aren't we all fortunate that Laci Young
(10:48):
calls this coastal corner home.
Laci is cute as a button, plus she's
a songwriter, a singer, a guitarist, a mother,
and
a young old soul that fits perfectly into
our forested seaside setting.
Lacey blends her heartfelt lyrics and melodies that
linger long after her songs are over, capturing
(11:08):
both the joy and ache of life in
every note. Lacey's song will captivate you with
their honesty.
One of the earliest,
memories I have
was,
let's see. Was yeah. Was getting the pleasure
to know you better,
when, you came down to KFUG,
(11:29):
and you you you came in and, I
just I when I drove up, you were
in the parking lot in the back of
a pickup truck. Alright? Hanging on the playing
the
guitar with a boot with a big cowboy
hat on top and Boots plays in high
below and singing your songs with soul filled
bravado. It was great memory seeing you. That's
the first time I wow. Look at her.
(11:50):
Over the next forty five minutes
or so, we'll have the pleasure of getting
to know Lacey a little bit better. We'll
talk about her life on the Oregon Coast,
the inspiration behind her songs, and what drives
her to keep writing with such vulnerability and
grace. And, yes, she'll be performing several original
original pieces for us live right here on
the airwaves. So settle in, turn up the
(12:11):
volume and let yourself drift into the soundscape
of Laci Young,
an artist who has a voice that can
make you reflect on life or
she as you chuckle along with her Yeah.
Because she is a true character who sings
songs from the heart. So without any more
verbiage for me, doctor Gigi, and I welcome
Lacey Young to the Doc and Jacques radio
(12:32):
show. Welcome, Lacey. Welcome, Laci. Thank you for
coming. Thank you for having me. I appreciate
it. And that was Oh, my god. Very
nice everything you said. Thank you. Yeah. I
remember I was playing that I was playing
in the back of my truck waiting for
you because I was so nervous.
It was so that's my memory. I will
always have that time. It's just out there
in the parking lot, kind of out on
the gravel out there just singing away full
(12:53):
ago. That was fun. Lacey,
give us an intro. Where were you born
and raised? Well, I was born by default
in Salinas, California.
My mom and dad had gone down there
for my dad's job, and she was pregnant
with me. But my sisters were,
were born here in Gold or in Gold
Beach. Mhmm. And, and so I should have
been born there too,
(13:15):
but I wasn't.
So,
but we basically was raised in Gold Beach.
We moved around a little bit when I
was a kid,
moved up to Portland, moved to Reno,
and then to Washington, to Albany,
and ultimately back down here Oh. When I
was 11. Mhmm. Or I've been here. Settled
down settled down for a while. Yeah. Yeah.
(13:35):
Well, we were going to I we my
sisters and I lived with our grandparents for
a little while, and we were actually going
to go back and live in Reno with
our mom when I was 13.
But our grandma got diagnosed with cancer. And
so we made the decision to move all
the way over here and take care of
her, and we we've been here ever since.
Cool. Nice. Wow. Cool.
(13:56):
What do you like best about you have
been moved all over. What do you like
best here?
I like the,
I like the ocean. Yeah. I go walk
on the beach a lot, and I do
like the woods.
I wouldn't mind going and traveling more into
bigger cities,
but I've always even as a young girl,
even living in Reno, I would much rather
(14:16):
go climb on the hillsides and mountains
than go to the malls with my sisters.
Okay. Good. Yeah. Your sisters do they still
live here? They live in Medford. Oh, close
enough. You from. Do you have your own
family here?
I do. Yeah. I'm married.
When you guys first met me, I was
actually still separated from my husband. We were
going through a rough patch, but, we have
(14:38):
worked things out. And so,
our three girls are really happy about that.
I have my oldest one was I was
pregnant with her before
him and I met. She's 24. Her name's
Hope. She's amazing.
But then we have Paige and Bailey together.
Paige is 16 and Bailey's 13, and
(14:59):
they're just really amazing amazing girls. Sweet. Nice
names too. Yeah.
Our We saw you last summer, was it,
in the mix, so to speak, at the
local festivals with, Chris Cooper and Bruce Ellis?
Christy? Yeah. Yeah. With Christy and Bruce.
And,
(15:19):
yeah, I got asked to kinda come in
and help out with some of the festivals.
I had no idea what I was doing,
but I love parties and festivals are just
big parties. And,
I just kinda showed up and just ran
around and did whatever they told me to
do and got to meet the bands. And
I was kind of, like,
(15:39):
hospitality is what Chrissy kept saying. So I'd
go get stuff for the bands, and I'd
set up little trays and things and just
make sure people were happy and having a
good time. And,
I've always known that there's a lot of
work involved in festivals. I mean, you can
just tell by the amount of people that
show up and all of the things that
are happening. But to actually be involved in
the behind the scenes is incredible. It's exhausting.
(15:59):
I went home one night after it was
the July 4. And by the time I
got home, I was so mental I had
such a great day, but I was so
mentally overloaded that I just sat on my
front porch and I kinda, like, cried. I
was just like,
I can sleep now.
How do you you were busy. We saw
how busy you were. What was your first
instrument that you learned to play?
(16:21):
I kinda started to learn a little bit,
the violin, but then I got moved from
that school
and didn't pick up another instrument until the
guitar. And I was into my
thirties by the time I started to Woah.
Try to learn how to play. Yeah. I
did not think that I would ever be
doing this, honestly.
So Really? Well, you do it well as
(16:43):
really, we'll find out when you play. Do
you play most of your songs are original.
Right? Yes. Okay. Cool. Do you play any
other it's just the violin one time you
played and then now you're sticking to the
guitar? Yep. I've got the guitar. I purchased
a bass, and I do have an electric
guitar. I purchased a cajon, and we have,
in our band, Rogue Strings, we've got it's
all these instruments are for Rogue Strings. But,
(17:05):
we've got some harmonicas and things like that.
Yana's way better at the harmonica than I
am because I'm very shy when I'm trying
to learn something, and she's just, like all
about it and just gets right into it.
Hey, big shout out to Yana. Yana, who
is out there most probably listening. Hope so.
I'll see you in a few weeks, Yana.
Or you can listen to it again. I
mean, you're all just go to kciw.org, and
it's always there. You can just highlight our
(17:27):
show, and then boom, it'll be this will
be posted right after 05:00.
Alright.
Let's see where oh, you don't play any
other mainly the guitar, and you got that
down. Right? Okay.
Who were your big influencers
when you were growing up as far as
musically?
As far as music?
My my mom listened to, like, eighties. She
(17:47):
was a diehard eighties.
So I listened to a lot of Whitesnake
and
Aerosmith
and, yeah, all of that stuff. But also,
like, I loved country.
Tim McGraw,
Don't Take the Girl was one of the
first songs I ever heard of his, and
I fell in love with country music because
of that song.
My dad always listened to The Judds. So
(18:08):
what if I'd go visit him, he'd be
The two gay not ladies? The two ladies.
Yeah. The mom and daughter duo. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. So, like, grandpa tell me about the
good old days. Every time I hear the
Judds, I think of my dad. Or Tanya
Tucker and Delta Dawn. Both my parents loved
that.
Tiffany's, I think we're alone now. I can't
(18:28):
not hear that song and not think of
my parents because Yeah. Yeah. So was that
radio, or was it actually record players that
you had in it? It was radio. Radio.
Yeah. I have a Victrola that was my
dad's, but it needs some work, and I'm
not sure how to where to go to
get it. I think it needs a new
needle, but it's so beautiful. And it's actually
my youngest sister's,
but I'm holding on to it and she
(18:49):
hasn't come to get it yet. So
So is the old Victrola I mean, the
real old one? I mean, wow. What a
trip. I didn't think those were
are still around. Alright. Who are your top,
three performers
presently? Who do you who do you like?
Are you emulate?
Honestly, Taylor Swift is, like, my old son.
That. Yeah. Yeah. Still. She put out an
(19:10):
album, The Tortured Poets department, and I listen
to that almost every single day because the
lyrics are so incredible. The way she put
everything together is just really impressive
to me, and I'm huge on words.
I just,
think she's a lyrical genius.
I also
like,
Miranda Lambert is another artist that I really,
(19:33):
really
like to listen to.
And I was gonna try to think I
can't think of the other one off the
top of my head, but the,
he sings,
Wild and Free, and I can't remember his
name off the top of my head, unfortunately.
I I know that Taylor Swift I believe
there's a small cadre of women that are
billionaires, and I think she's one of them.
(19:54):
She's really wealthy. She's very well. Yeah. Yes.
Yeah. And after her last,
her Eris tour, she
gave, like I think they they determined it
was, like, $750,000
to each person on her crew as a
bonus because the tour had done so well.
So not only is she Wow. Like a
powerhouse, she's super smart, but she's also so
(20:16):
kind and generous and giving. And when she
goes into cities or different countries, she always
picks charities and things to donate to. She's
just a really Kinder to come here. KCIW
could always use go donation me or volunteer
run, and we are your community radio station.
Alright, doc. Take care. So, Lacey, you you,
so, Taylor Swift writes song, but you write
your own songs as well.
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How long have you been writing?
I
have seriously writing about,
fifteen years.
Four fifteen years? Yeah. Seriously. Yeah. And I
couldn't play an instrument
for a while, so I was just finally
writing down the ideas
that had been, like, circulate circulating in my
head for so long.
(20:58):
And I didn't actually end up picking up
a guitar and seriously trying to play until
after I had gone down to Reno
as, like, a little vacation.
And at the Peppermill, they always have,
live music. And so over the years, I
would get to meet bands and singers and
stuff and just talk to them. And I
finally got up the courage to ask one
(21:19):
to, like, read my lyric sheets that I
had with me. And I was, like, trying
to tell her my idea. Her name was
is Erica Sunshine Lee.
And,
I have this song that I eventually want
it to
generate money for Saint Jude's. I wrote it
specifically so, like, all proceeds I want to
go to Saint Jude's. Uh-huh. And so I
gave it to her and I was kinda
(21:39):
telling her my idea, and I was like,
but I'm not a singer. I don't know
how to play an instrument, but, like, I
can hear it in my head. And she
said she was kind enough. She said that
she would look over the sheets and give
me some,
like, feedback. And I was really hoping she'd
fall in love with it and wanna work
with me on it. And she came back
and she was very honest.
And she just said, you know, unfortunately,
(21:59):
unless you can pick up an instrument and
actually make it sound the way that you
hear it in your head, nobody's ever gonna
hear it the way you do. Oh, wow.
And so the whole Don't worry. Yeah. The
whole trip back from Reno to here, I
sat on that and I just kept thinking
about it and thinking about it. And I
was like, she's so right and I know
it and I've known it. And I just
took just took being told that,
(22:19):
I guess,
to finally go and pick it up. And,
I'm not a proficient. I'm not as as
a great, great guitar player. I'm a simple
strummer is what I call myself. But it
did it took that moment for her. So
when you so when you make up the
when you write the lyrics, it's not like
a pro it's not a poem. It's something
you actually hear in your head. You hear
the melody. Mhmm. Oh, wow. Okay. So it's
(22:41):
it's it's a double whammy. Right? The lyrics
and the music. Yeah. Very easy. So you
start do you start with the the words
and then you put music to that, or
do you play a song or you play
the the music first and then put words
to it? It it depends. Because sometimes,
sometimes I'll have an idea, and so I'll
try to, like, decide how how do I
want to
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create this in my mind so that when
I'm talking or singing about it, that it
comes across as, like, a a picture or
something for somebody else. Right. And,
so then, like like, the words and the
melody kind of flows together that way, and
then I have to find the right chords
to go with it. But,
like, the last song that I wrote, it
actually started with a melody ID. I was
just kinda messing around, and I was like,
(23:22):
okay. I like the way this progression is.
And then I started kinda, like, humming along
to it, and then I found kind of
a melody that I liked. And I was
actually just showing my little sister the very
first recording of it, and she's like, that
doesn't even sound like it anymore. I was
like, it does. It did in my head.
I couldn't get it right first.
Okay. I was gonna say, are most of
your songs original? They're all original. Yeah. Okay.
(23:44):
That's that right there is an accomplishment. How
many songs do you think you've written?
I almost around 50.
Around 50 by myself. You put to music
then. Yes. Okay. Yeah. And I've got a
bunch of things that I need to
complete and a bunch of ideas that but
I'd I'll go through. I have, like, probably
seven different notebooks stashed. I was gonna say,
how many notebooks and and napkins, things like
(24:06):
that? Right? Yeah. It's terrible. Right. I started
texting myself, and I actually had to I
was at a Brothers Reed concert, and my
sister looks over at me and she goes,
are you texting yourself? And I was like,
yeah. I got an idea.
Like, don't judge me. I had to program
it in as me because I I would
just type in my number at night if
I was, like, falling asleep.
And one night, I typed it in and
(24:27):
I sent it. It was like this really
dark idea. And the next morning, I got
a response that was like, oh, I'm sorry
for what you're going through. I accidentally typed
in somebody else's number. I'm like, oh, sorry.
So I had to put my own self
in my phone. You know who she she
reminds me of Fallon, my daughter. Oh, he
You got that laugh and that kinda that
hand movement. So cool. So when did you
(24:49):
actually go and perform on the stage?
The first stage that I played on was,
all Yana's fault, and I hope she's listening
right now.
We were we'd been practicing together and playing
together, aside from aside from the fair. We
I did play at the fair. Oh, that's
sort of common. But,
As a talent show thing. But, she took
(25:10):
me up to mister Ed's in Port Orford,
and she was like, okay. So there's gonna
be, like, several people kind of like a
open mic kind of thing where you kinda
like Yeah. Just play a few songs, get
off the stage, let somebody else do it.
So I was nervous and I was I
was like, okay. Well, let's do it. I
gotta do it anyways. I gotta be scared
and do it anyways. That's what I tell
my girls all the time.
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And halfway up to Port Orford, she goes
she goes, oh, yeah. It's just gonna be
us for two hours. Oh. And I was
Oh my god. I think I melted into
the seat. I remember thinking, like, oh, please
just open up and just, like, swallow me
whole earth because I don't know that we
can do this. And we walk in, and,
I'm so, like you know tunnel vision? I'm
(25:53):
so mad at myself still for this. I
had tunnel vision, so we walk in. I
was, like, shaking. And this guy, he goes,
hey. If you girls go play a song
right now, I'll put you on I'll put
you on my Instagram.
And I'm like, I don't think we're supposed
to start till seven.
Eddie's like, okay. And I'm like
and then later after that,
it was Rick it was Rick from Pawn
(26:13):
Stars.
He was there.
He was there. He would if we would
have played Ho in church that day, I
swear it probably would have, like, done something
different. But, like
yeah. I'm really hoping that there's gonna be
another time that he shows up there, though,
that we're there so I can tell him
that story. That's the owner, the the main
guy. Right? From it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. From
the Oh. Yes. From the show. Right. So
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do you take ideas for your for your
music and your lyrics from life's
lessons?
Like, love, family,
work Oh. Themes. Is that where you Yes.
Absolutely. Your creative Except for work. Work is
very boring. So no. I work in the,
assessor's office. Oh, you'd love your job, though,
right, if they're listening?
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I mean, I love my people. There we
go. No. I'm just kidding. I actually I
don't mind it. I've been there for a
long time. I started when I was
20.
So I've been there twenty one years. Woah.
And Are you giving yourself away? I do.
Yeah. I'm not worried about that. Yeah.
But I just I do like knowing the
job and knowing that I can help people
and reminding people that, like, we have a
(27:17):
duty to the property taxpayers, but also the
districts and to, like, how we can all
manage that together because people hate paying taxes.
And I don't blame them. I don't wanna
pay mine either. Yeah. Really. No kidding. Yeah.
Yeah. So you started with
Diana? Yes. It was an oh my gosh.
I can't believe she went the way up.
Oh, it's just gonna be us. O M
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G G. What other bands did that lead
into? Did it lead into you going with
other bands? No. No. Actually,
when,
I've not played any any,
in any other bands.
We created Rogue Strings together, basically. Rogue Strings.
Mhmm.
We started out so I had written a
song for about my parents, because I lost
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them both.
And I was my grand
sorry. My uncle, my mom's
best friend and her brother, he was coming
to visit from Alaska.
And so I was like, okay.
Kinda play this for him because I really
wanted to. And it was at a Super
Bowl party that he was having at my
aunt's house?
And so I told him I just wanna
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show him this song, and I wrote for
him. Because my mom, before she passed away,
every time he'd come to visit, she'd show
him my lyric sheets because she's all so
excited, but she never neither ever got to
hear me sing or anything, but she saw
like, I'd bring her my sheets and be
like,
I'm working towards this, but I can't do
it yet. So she'd always be so excited,
and so I wanted to show that to
him. And Yana was there, And so they
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came out, and they listened to it. And
then she said she wanted to start working
with me.
And,
so we started playing together, and she couldn't
play a guitar either when we first started.
And she kept saying that she couldn't, and
I gave her one of mine. Oh. And
I said, yes. You can. And so she
took it home, and she started teaching herself
how to play guitar. And,
the first song that she wrote was called
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stupid boy, and it was so hard of
a chord change transition strumming pattern thing. It
was just incredible. I was blown away. It
was amazing. And I keep telling him, like,
we need to bring that into our sets
when we play because I know a lot
of Stupid boy. Like it. Yeah. There you
go.
Time flies when you're having fun, folks. It's
already that mid break time here on the
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Thanks to all
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of you.
We got ten more minutes to talk. We're
gonna Just about. Okay. I wanna know. Do
you
do you prefer singing solo
or with Yana? With Yana. 100%.
Yeah.
I'd I'd like playing solo because it's it's,
it puts all the pressure on you, but
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I love playing with her so much more
because we feed off each other. We just
have a good time together, and I feel
like we sound better together.
And You you yeah. We saw you obviously.
I was not there that time. That's when
Lucas filled in for me when the both
of you were Lucas, when are you? Yeah.
Lucas, I missed it. I listened to it.
I was in Missouri or some place, you
know, and I heard it. That was good.
I couldn't get back. I think it's snowing
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or something. Yeah. That's right. I was stuck
in a snowstorm Yeah. Way back in Nebraska
or something. Yeah. Yeah. It was horrible. Yeah.
Oh, how cute. But anyway, you guys are
fun to to to listen to or to
watch you guys play because you look at
each other and you sing and then, you
know, I mean, you feed off each other.
It's The ropes, strings, just the two of
you? Just the two of us. Yeah. Yeah.
Very nice.
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So what is
coming up maybe in the next few years,
what is your dream musically? You know, do
you have a musical dream? Do you wanna
stay where you are at, just expanding, or,
you know, you wanna be what's her name?
Oh, she could open up for Taylor Swift?
I know. Yeah. Yeah. Taylor Swift. If I
ever had the opportunity to open for Taylor
Swift, I would 100%
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take it. 100%.
She'd only give you $750,000.
So I would do it for free.
I would probably try to pay her. Like,
I know you don't need any money, but
I'll give you some anyways.
I'm an assessor. I got lots of money.
No.
That is a common misconception, sir.
Oh. No. It would be it would be
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incredible for our music to take off.
That would be amazing. I would I'm definitely
open to wherever
this journey takes me.
If it doesn't, though, I started writing and
playing and singing
as therapy for myself. Mhmm. So,
and with the idea of if if I
could ever, like, share it with anybody, if
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it touched somebody's heart and helped them,
then that was, you know, good enough for
me. Now do you record? Do you make
the music accessible for others to listen? We
have been, but I will not lie. I
am terrible at recording, and it's been difficult
because
we both work,
full time, essentially. We've got kids. She's got
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boys in sports. My girls aren't playing sports
right now. But so that just takes up
a lot of time and then traveling,
and just life life things happen. So we
it's very difficult to get together. I'm really
hoping that her and I can get together
this weekend and kind of maybe get
a plan in place. We've been starting to
book shows a little bit more. So and
then we've got the festivals that are coming
(32:53):
up. We're gonna be here in Brookings. Yeah.
You're gonna be helping again for some of
that. I don't I told Chrissy last year.
I was like, I don't know how much
I can commit, but I know that she
needs that from me soon. So I finally
got the dates for those, and I need
to talk with Yana and talk with Chrissy
and figure out everything so that I can
because I'd love to do it. I had
a good time even though it was a
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lot. Is this helping out, or will you
be able to play too?
You know, if they want us to play,
I would absolutely play. I it would wouldn't
be too hard. I'd already be down there.
Yeah. So what is the one that, our
friend kinda like the Kings,
John Mendoza? He's having a a concert. Oh,
yeah. Battle of the No. He's having bands
come in on the twenty eighth. This is
(33:34):
in Crescent City. I'll talk to you about
it later. Oh, okay. Yeah. Possibly. He's I'm
I'm gonna be one of the judges who's
got me some such a Yeah. Battle of
the band. Right? For radio personality.
Yeah. What did they want? Old judge. So
any,
gigs coming up? And by the way, I
wanna back up.
Yana asked me when I she's on in
two weeks from now. Yana comes on in
three weeks. Three weeks. And I she said,
I just found out from Lacey that she's
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on. And I do you wanna do you
want me to come in with her? And
I didn't know what to say. So I
said, I'll just keep it separate.
I
you are welcome to come in when she
comes in, and it's been a few weeks.
Well, I just when you sent me the
email of this information,
I saw that it said that there's, like,
there's room for every There is. We have
three other guys. Yeah. And so I, just
was like,
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come on. Yeah. Okay. Duh.
Okay. Well, she it implies we could ask
her a lot of the questions and Oh,
yeah. You guys could play together. Yeah. And,
well, and I don't need to play. I
just come down to support and just to
hang out. There you go. Because yeah. But
bring your guitar, Jessica. Yeah. Just just just
just
so any gigs other than just with your
your
(34:36):
Yeah. We've got we're gonna play, New Year's
Eve in Gold Beach at the Sea Star
from eight to eleven. We're gonna Sea Star.
The Sea Star. Yeah. What is that? It's
like a local divey bar, and I love
it so much. The sea star. Mhmm. Dive
y. Yeah. It's just right up my alley.
You you walk in, and it's kinda dark
and you Kinda slip on the floor a
little bit. No. There's carpet.
(34:57):
Oh, there's carpet. Yeah. Carpet in a bar.
Bad. Bad. Bad.
Yeah. But and then we're we're gonna play
up at mister Ed's on, January 2 from
seven to nine and,
the World Headquarters on January 30. Here in
Brookings or Yes. Right? Or Yep. Harbor? Yep.
Is that the 101? Wait. What night is
that?
Monday? The we're, Friday. Friday. Friday, January 30.
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That's a good gig. Yeah. And then I'm
gonna have, we're gonna be playing back up
at mister Ed's later in March on the
fourteenth, and,
I'm gonna have a solo show in March
at Augustina's from two to four. Wow. So
and then Yana will have one also later.
I don't know what the Yana had one
last week. Right? Yes. Yeah. She had one
this last Sunday. Well, good for both of
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you. And,
what's your favorite local venue of all these
ones that you've been talking about?
I think if I had to pick a
favorite one, it'd probably be the SeaStar.
I The DiBiator. The DiBiator. I I got
we gotta go up for now. We gotta
we'll give you a call. We'll come hunt
down. I'll buy you a drink. Heck yeah.
Yeah. Anytime. Yeah. Mary, she's
(36:03):
a bartender down there, and she's been there
for for a long time. My older sister,
which is actually her birthday today. Happy birthday,
older sister. Yep.
She,
used,
well, Mary's worked there forever. My sister worked
there for a long time. So What's your
sister's name? Rhiannon. Rhiannon. Rhiannon. Happy happy birthday
to you. Alright.
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You're always for hire.
Do you do weddings or parties? Or
I mean, we could, but I don't know
many people who or brides that would want
you to be singing
drunk love or sweat like a hoe in
church at their weddings.
And so we don't really have any covers,
and we don't know how we're not working
with a drummer right now or anything like
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that. So It's a straight acoustic guitar. Yeah.
It's just two acoustics, and it's pretty fun.
Know the bachelorette one. Bachelorette
material. Right? That's what I was gonna say.
We're gonna hear it we're gonna hear it,
like a Hoenn shirt. I just love this.
Yeah. Probably more for the bachelorette than the
actual wedding. Alright. How before we get into
you singing,
two or three of your original songs and
(37:06):
having fun with that, how do people reach
you? How do they contact you?
We our email is roguestrings@gmail.com.
That's You can send us a message through
Messenger,
on Facebook.
We you can probably send us a message
through, like, Distrokid
or any of those other products. Got on
Facebook and typed in Rogue Springs. It's gonna
come up. Mhmm. And then one of the
(37:28):
two of you will answer. But do you
have you don't have a website yet? Not
yet. You will? Yep. Yeah. We will eventually.
We just have not. I'm not super techy
savvy, so I'm kind of like I just
kind of like
push to the side. Yeah. We'll sell you
ours. We have one that we've done nothing
with for one year now. It's been under
construction. Oh my gosh. You click on docandjock@.com
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and it comes up under construction.
For when, Tom, you gotta fix it for
us.
No website yet. No, you're on Facebook. Any
phone numbers or anything else you wanna pass
out? Okay. No. No. Just call the assessor's
office. Yeah. For sure. You can always find
me there. I'm there all the time.
Oh,
alright. Well Yeah. So and we have a
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lot of merch too. So because our a
lot of our songs that we play, yeah,
out,
even if we do a solo show, we
have, like, flasks, shot glasses. We have tank
tops. We've got some CDs and,
koozies and Hey. Yeah. Had t shirts. We
don't have t shirts yet. We've been we've
been scouring sites to try to find, like,
(38:30):
a good quality for a decent price so
that we don't have to jack up prices
to people who want to purchase them. That's
another thing I wanted to try to get
together with Yana on this weekend. So, hopefully,
we can do that. But I was bringing
up the merch because I actually I brought
you guys one of our shot glasses as
a thank you for having me in the
shop. I'm gonna tap. There we go. Oh,
that's a shot glass. Wow. That is a
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there. Woah.
It looks
huge, but it's not it's less than one
and a half. Less than one and a
half. Try to sit and see it home.
We walk in water with our Well, when
you get your t shirt, she buys I
I don't wear t shirts. I never I'm
not a t shirt guy, but she does
and she'll buy will gladly support you by
one of your pink t shirts that says
roastery. Well, only if you show up to
one of the shows. Okay. Here we go.
(39:12):
We got it again. This is the nice
shot class. Nice shot, man. Plus, thank you
for that gift. Yeah.
Alright. Grab your guitar here and start getting
ready to sing some song. Folks, we're talking
with Laci Young,
who has been a friend of mine and
doctors for about four or five years since
we last oh, I think four years at
least. And we have seen her out about.
You have too. If you if you're anybody
(39:34):
on the music scene or down at the
festivals that is put on by,
Bruce, Ellis, and Chrissy. Chrissy Cooper. Yeah. Cooper.
You you've seen her. So
what are we gonna what's your first song
gonna be, Lacey?
That is I know I was supposed to
pick out songs, and I kept running through
them. And I wasn't really sure what I
was gonna play.
(39:54):
You like spontaneity.
That's I know. It's the worst.
Let's see.
I think I will
play
Yeah.
I was gonna say, I kinda wanted to
play the song that I wrote for my
parents since we talked about that. Do what?
Yeah? Yes. Okay.
(40:15):
What is it called?
I Still Miss You.
Driving through town just the other day
(40:38):
I lost my breath, thought I saw your
face I knew it couldn't
be But my mind plays tricks on me
I pulled over, put my head in my
hands
I sat a while, let the pain sink
in,
trying just
(41:00):
to breathe.
All this time hasn't changed a thing.
I
I don't know what to do
because life
wasn't supposed to be
without
(41:20):
you.
Still hard hard sometimes
to face the day.
I think of all the plans we made
and everything
we'll never get into.
I still
really
miss you.
(41:44):
I still
really
miss
you.
Oh, I miss you
Some days hurt just getting up up
One whiskey in my coffee cup I could
(42:07):
use a break today
But that'll
have to wait
I get home, put the groceries away
I clean up another mess the kids made,
and I talk to you out loud
when no one is around.
(42:29):
I
I
don't know what to do
because life
wasn't supposed to be
without
you.
Still hard sometimes
to face the day.
I think of all the plans we made
(42:52):
and everything
we'll never
get to do.
I still
really miss you.
I still
really miss
(43:14):
you.
Oh, I miss you.
Sunset's
on another day gone.
I'm still trying, but I'm not moving
on. Pain's a heavy load,
and sometimes
(43:35):
you just don't know.
I keep quiet because it's just what you
do.
No one likes all the things we go
through, so we build up these walls.
But sometimes
they have to fall.
I
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I don't know what to do
because life
was not supposed to be
without you.
Still hard sometimes
to face the day. I think of all
the plans we made
and everything
(44:16):
we'll never
get to do.
I still
really miss you.
I still
really
miss
you.
(44:36):
Oh, I miss you.
I miss you.
Wow. Oh, that is so sad.
You know,
that's what is beautiful about radio. Live radio
like this, man, that that touched my heart.
We used to both look at each other,
and we we we lost people in our
(44:57):
lives that, you know, you miss people. And
that frames it very well. So that comes
back to what my prologue about you is
that you speak
you speak from the heart. I think that's
what one of the things I would say
about your music. And you just kinda spontaneously,
well, let's see. I think I'll sing this
one of them. Yeah. Right? That was, oh,
so cute. You know? That was a really
(45:18):
good, good song. Well, thank you for being
I'm surprised you have
such an emotional sad song because
all the songs that I have before listened
to were kind of I love the the
emotional one. I know. It's very good. What
like, dang. It's usually the other way around.
They're super funny. I'm sure there are people
out there that could be, that are listening
(45:38):
that that would shed a tear over Oh,
yeah. Great song. Oh my gosh. So Yeah.
You. Is that on Spotify? Is that on
No. No. Not yet. I I need to
get I need to
put more effort into recording.
Okay. Or maybe just get some session musicians.
If there's any out there, hit me up.
I know I you know, we know Ray
(45:58):
Martell with Redwood Records. He's been on the
show multiple times. He'd love to he'd just
do it. He
just you know, no charge, I'm sure, for
a couple of your songs. Get him out
there. You know Jordan Branch? I don't believe
so. No. Yeah. Okay. She sings some powerful
things like that. Okay. What is our next
song? We have let's see. We have about,
yeah, we have about ten minutes. Ten minutes?
(46:19):
Okay.
Well, let's see. We could do a
And we're gonna get my that one favorite
that Yes. Yes. Yeah. Okay. I promise. I
I I it's stuck in my head. Yeah.
We've had people, like, message us after shows
and stuff. Like, a week or so later,
I had this one gal. She goes,
I woke up at 02:30 this morning with
(46:39):
that song stuck in my head, so I
took a shot and I danced around my
living room. And I was like, that's probably
not good for your liver, but that is
hilarious.
Alright. What's this song called? Okay. This song
let's see. Oh,
I think I'm gonna play it's called The
Crow Song.
I haven't played this song for a minute
either.
(46:59):
Fuck it. Remember it? The crow? Like, this
bird crow? No. Like, regret.
Oh, crow is regret? Crow, yeah. Oh. So
when Jan and I first started
working together, I showed her the song, and
we'd be singing it and stuff, and then
it was about a year later,
she goes, why are we singing about a
(47:21):
bird? And I said, it's not about a
bird. It's not about a bird.
Okay. I gotta look that up on Perplexity.
It's like
crow? Yeah. Yeah. It's like, how does that
like, you eat crow. Like, it's regret kind
of.
Okay. I hope I'm right because if I'm
wrong, that's gonna be bad. Can you look
it up while I'm playing it? I don't
know now. It's it's now been birthed. You've
got it. You're the owner of that one.
(47:43):
So the, I'm just gonna talk about this
for just a second. The whole reason behind
this song was I was dating this guy,
and he told me that in the beginning,
he goes,
I've just been so bad at, like, not
he basically was like, I just ghost people
when I don't wanna date them anymore. And
I was like, well, I'm not like a
chaser of people. So can you just, like,
give me the respect to tell me that
(48:03):
you're done? And so that way I don't,
like, call you and bother you.
And he did not. But the night that
I knew it was over, he left. And
I don't know what it was about the
door, the way it shut or something. It
just was I just knew it. I knew
it was done. I never tried to call
him. Finalized.
Yeah. Yeah. And then years later, he wanted
to get back together with me. I was
a little too late. Yeah. There you go.
(48:25):
Good.
So it's called the crow song.
I don't chase my whiskey,
and I won't chase love.
I'll be damned if I feel like I'm
not enough.
I smile when I think about you packing
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your bags to leave.
You were so sure you'd do so much
better than me. How does that crow taste?
It's a mighty big chunk to chew. How
does regret feel.
Hanging all over you.
You thought you could do better and without
another word, you just turned around and walked
away.
(49:07):
Boy, I know you know you made a
pretty
big
mistake.
Yeah. I was pretty,
but I was so young. Now look at
me, darling.
(49:28):
And the woman I become
and the one you settled down with, I
hear she's nice and sweet.
That didn't keep you from trying to crawl
right back to me. How does that crow
taste?
It's a mighty big chunk to chew out
as regret feel.
Hanging all over you.
(49:49):
You thought you could do better run without
another word. You just turned around and walked
away.
Boy, Boy, I know you know you made
a pretty big mistake.
I think it's kinda funny.
(50:10):
Knowing that you're wrong makes me kinda happy.
You ain't moving on,
and I won't lie, kinda like you choking
all regret.
Well, I sip my whiskey
and smoke my cigarette, and how does that
crow taste?
Is it mighty big chunk to chew? How
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does regret
feel?
Hanging all over you.
You thought you could do better run without
another word. You just turned around and walked
away.
Boy, I know you know you made a
pretty big mistake.
You could take another shot and try to
wash them down.
But regrets
(50:51):
flow, darling.
They don't drown.
Take another shot or two and try to
wash them down. But regrets
flow, darling.
They don't
(51:17):
Alright. The pro song by hey. I gotta
say, Lacey, you have you were really good
before every I mean, when we're down at
KFUG
years ago, you've gotten
you've just mellowed out. Your voice is just
fluid now. I just
there's no hard edges on anything. Not that
it wasn't beautiful before, but you've really developed
(51:39):
as an artist. I mean, wow. Thank you.
Wow. Your guitar playing superb too. I know.
I can't believe you learned it that way.
Sounds good. Thank you. Thank you so much.
I appreciate it. I gotta tell you a
funny story though real fast before the last
song. Yeah. No.
My my little sister came to visit, and
she was telling me I didn't play. She's
gonna be so mad at me. I did
not play the songs that she picked for
me to play today.
(52:00):
But she brought have you seen one of
those, like, little,
like, vibration plates? Have you seen those? So
it's like this little machine where you stand
on it and you, like, vibrate your legs
and stuff. So she brought that, and she
was making me practice on it so that
I would have to figure out how to
keep my voice more controlled. And that was
the hardest thing that I think I've ever
had to do. But, yeah, when I finally
(52:21):
started to figure out how to do that,
it felt really, really cool. I was like,
please leave out here so I can work
on that more. Steady
steady voice. Really good. You hit it all.
Okay. We have one song that left for
you to play, and that's one that has
stuck with me ever since I heard it.
I've always requested the you to play it
when you do. And it's called what's the
actual name? Sweating Like a Ho in Church.
Sweating Like a Ho in Church. And you
(52:42):
will find out why it's got such a
beat to it that is so fun and
funny, and thank you. If you'll play that
and Alright. Sing a little. Absolutely.
It's like a band or amp
what do they call it? Anthem. Yeah. Yeah.
Yana says it's our You You Ding Dong
song.
There's some movie that she correlates that to
with Will Ferrell in it, and,
(53:02):
I can't remember the name of it off
the top of my head. Ding Dong. Yeah.
So Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty funny though. But
we wrote this, we were actually up the
creek because we'd take our kids up the
creek all the time when we were when
we were first starting playing together and stuff.
And it was so hot up there. And
I said that because I've heard it several
times over the years and stuff, and she
started laughing so hard. And she because she's
(53:23):
never heard that saying before. And she goes,
we gotta write a song about that. And
I was like, we can't write a song
about that.
And then we started working on it. Oh,
you wrote a song about that. I love
it. Sweating Like a Ho in Church by
Laci Young.
(53:44):
Did something last Saturday night. Not proud of
it. I can't deny. Couldn't help it.
No. I couldn't help
it. That's how it works in this small
town. You winked at me, and I looked
down. It was simple
and so very sinful.
Now I'm sweating like a hole in church.
(54:06):
Sweating like a hole in church. What was
I thinking?
I was just drinking.
Sweating like a hole in church.
Sweating like a hole in church. Why was
I thinking?
I was just drinking.
I was just drinking.
(54:33):
Came into church lipstick all wrong. You looked
at me. I fixed my thong and I
smiled.
Yeah. It's been a while.
That girl of yours tell her the truth.
What went down in the confession booth? It
was simple
and so very simple.
Now I'm sweating like a hoe in church.
(54:56):
Swinging like a hoe in church. What was
I thinking?
I was just drinking.
Sweating like a hole in church.
Swimming like a hole in church. What was
I thinking?
I was just drinking.
I was just drinking.
(55:24):
Don't give a damn what the preacher says.
Still taste the whiskey on my breath. Oh,
brother.
My holy fire water.
Forgive me, Jesus. I have sinned. We both
know I'm gonna do it again. It's simple.
I'm so very sinful.
Now I'm sweating like a hole in church.
(55:47):
Swimming like a hole in church. What was
I thinking?
I was just drinking.
Swimming like a hole in church.
Swimming like a hole in church. Why was
I thinking?
I was just drinking.
I was just drinking.
(56:10):
My friend The Hangover
is gonna
take over.
Spinning my head with revenge
So now I'm sweating like a hole in
church
Sweating like a hole in church What was
I thinking?
I was just drinking
(56:33):
sweating like a hole in church.
Swinging like a hole in church. What was
I thinking?
I was just drinking.
I was just drinking.
I was just drinking.
I was just drinking.
(56:55):
Oh my god. There it is. So good.
How many times we've been we just did
this last week. I we're driving somewhere out
we've been driving for a couple of hours,
and suddenly it's just sweating like a Hawaiian
shirt. Yeah. Sweat like a Hawaiian shirt. What
was I thinking?
I was just drinking.
Oh my goodness. Yeah. Lacey, you're You're welcome.
Always a pleasure to have you on the
(57:16):
show. All we we gotta come back every
few months really seriously. Play some play some
new ones. And you're welcome if Yana wishes,
to come with her on two weeks, I
think it is, from now or the '3.
January. Sorry. Yeah. Thank you so much for
coming in and letting us about your backstory.
Very cool. Very cool. And then Very nice.
Playing your wonderful songs. I know I know,
Tom Bozek was there filming you too. I'll
(57:38):
try to post this on on Facebook tomorrow.
Okay. Thank you so much. Thanks for having
me. I really appreciate the opportunity. Alright. I
had so much fun. Thank you. It was
a fun show. Thank you, honey. Alright. Do
we have any time left for anything? For
a fun time? Yeah. We have. What about
that? No. Okay. Give us a quote. Give
us a quote. Okay.
Sending Christmas cards is a good way to
let your friends and family know that you
(57:58):
think they're worth the price of a stamp.
Okay. Alright. How much does it, cost,
for Santa to park his sleigh, doctor? How
much? Nothing. It's on the house.
And I asked my dog, dog, what's 2
minus 2?
He said nothing.
Okay.
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(58:19):
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Thank you for tuning to this week's
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is, as always, Jacques Kepner.
How are you, Jacques Key? I'm doing great,
(00:30):
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Thank you, Tom, for coming in and doing
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(00:51):
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at,
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Then a few hours later, it'll it'll appear
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City, California. So now you know, doctor Gigi
(01:14):
and I have got your coasts covered.
Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Oh, okay.
Doctor, it's that time when good medicine and
health tips as presented
by you, my German medical doctor, patent holding
scientist, and a university professor. What medical
marvels
do you have us, for us today on
(01:35):
this week's segment of dot MDGG?
I feel like I've been on vacation. Yeah.
I think you so I think I have
too. Yeah. I think I have. Well, listen
to this. We're talking about SAD, which is
not Standard American diet? I love talking about
that. Right. But this is not what it
is. It's not the standard American diet, which
is terrible. We wish. Right?
Seasonal affective disorder. Uh-huh. It's AD. It is
(01:57):
Depressed as well. It is a type of
depression that follows a seasonal pattern,
most often in fall and winter.
But it can also occur in spring or
summer.
The summer variant is usually called
summer pattern,
sad,
or summer depression, and it's less common than
the winter form. Okay.
(02:19):
What do you call a reindeer with no
eyes?
What?
I have no idea.
Okay. Warming up. I'm warming up. Keep going.
Just tell us more about SAD or seasonal
affective disorder. It's classified as a form of
major depressive disorder with a seasonal pattern. As
I said, there are about
(02:39):
ten million Americans suffering suffering
from
SAD. Those that admit. You know? I mean,
there's so many more than that when you
think about it because Yeah. Probably. They don't
go to the doctor. They just know, I'm
just depressed. Yeah. Exactly. Now, interestingly enough, the
prevalence ranges from one point four percent percent
in Florida. In Florida where it's kinda sunny
(02:59):
all the time. Right? And nine point nine
percent in Alaska.
Wow. So it's not as sunny in Alaska.
I gotcha. If we feel a little bit
down during the winter months, but we really
don't go to the doctor or request or
ask for any treatment.
We might be in an even larger group
that,
that experience what we call winter blues. Woah.
(03:22):
That's a Stevie Ray song. Alright? Stevie Ray
Vaughan. I'm just making it up, but that's
okay. But when a blues okay. Okay. I
told doctor Gigi that I have persistent
thoughts that I am God. Oh. Well, she
asked me how long I've been feeling this
way. And I told her it came on
shortly after I created the sun and the
moon.
(03:44):
What else winter pattern, doctor? The winter pattern,
sad, is much more common than the summer
pattern, sad.
The,
seasonal affective disorders
is, as I kind of hinted to,
linked to the changes in daylight that
disrupt our body's circadian
rhythm, circadian as in day and night
(04:05):
or the internal clock.
And so we have
the alterations in sleep and wake timing that
make us sad. That's kinda weird because I
know every morning literally, I wake up every
morning, doesn't matter, between 07:35
and and 07:45.
You're up early. Yeah. But it's not we're
gonna just time it. Hey. Why is the
sun so smart? Why is it? Because it
(04:26):
has over 5,000 degrees.
Yeah.
Okay. So we can also see during the
summertime
introduction or cessation
of the SAD because many of us have
a hard time getting adjusted to, you know,
the summertime thing.
The summer the spring forward Yeah. The summertime
(04:48):
called summertime. Whole thing sucks. I think they
should have Spring forward or fall back
time
change. So we also have noticed that some
brain chemicals such as serotonin
and melatonin
have been found to change their amounts with
these with these changes in time and people
who suffer from the SAD. Wow. It seems
(05:08):
like they need DMT.
I don't know. Hey, two scientists are arguing
about how to get their rocket to the
sun without it burning up. Hey, we'll go
at night, says one scientist. The other one
says, you idiot. There is no sun at
night.
So there's also a genetic link to consider
(05:28):
with this SAD,
because there are family members
who have it. So if the and it's
more prevalent in women than in men. But
usually, if somebody in the family has it,
then somebody else in the family has it
too. More likely than if nobody has it
in the family, then no offspring will have
it either.
Okay. If someone burns to death, do they
(05:49):
get a discount at the crematorium?
Family.
Okay. Alright. Where are we doc? Where do
In winter pattern SAD, the people so there's
the difference between summer and winter. In winter
pattern SAD, people typically report low mood, fatigue,
increased sleep,
carbohydrate
cravings. I think I have that all the
(06:09):
time. Weight gain and social withdrawal.
And they it usually starts in the beginning
of fall or early winter and improves in
spring or early summer. Mhmm. I'm so fat.
My shadow
has a shadow.
Okay. That was I was not gonna say
that. Alright. So the summer pattern SAD is
(06:30):
different. Okay. Tell us that. It does have
the depressive episodes,
but it has it it more it involves
more likely poor sleep,
decreased appetite,
restlessness,
and heightened anxiety.
And it starts in the late spring or
summer and eases in the fall. So they're
a little bit opposite of how they function.
Alright. A very sick man goes to his
(06:52):
doctor and he says, doc, how much time
do I have left? The doctor says, ten.
The very sick man says, what? Ten months?
Ten weeks? Ten days? The doctor says, nine.
Oh my god. Eight. Okay. Seven.
Six.
So he'll talk about the treatment of s
eight. Oh, yeah. How do you how do
you light treatment. Right?
So, yeah, if since it is light
(07:13):
cost or the loss of light, there is
actually a full spectrum light that you can
buy, a light bulb or light orchestra
that shines the full spectrum light, all the
little wavelengths into your face. And that twenty
minutes a day or so, that should be
enough. However,
then there is psychotherapy,
which is,
basically discussing it with somebody, and they will
(07:35):
tell you about
measures that you can take that you don't
fall into the trap of being sad
or
antidepressant
medications
such
as serotonin reuptake inhibitors
or and vitamin d
Wow. Supplements. And that's for the winter pattern,
SAD. No. Not for both. You know, I've
(07:56):
told you I wanted to go before I
go.
I wanna go skydiving at least once. And,
hey, by the way, I saw an ad
on Craigslist. Mhmm. It said, you know, parachute.
It was on sale. It said it parachute.
It was used used once and never opened.
It had a small stain in it, though.
So the package was never opened. Okay.
(08:19):
Now another medication that can be given for
it is bupropion
or Wellbutrin. Yeah. I was on that a
long time ago. Yeah. You were. Did you
have SAD?
No. I I had it from g r
I e f, grief. When
I Oh, g r okay. Yeah. Alright. Good.
So vitamin d and lifestyle helps you.
(08:40):
Vitamin d is over the counter.
You can get supplements on that. And it
has been shown there are papers that show
that vitamin d can help with,
you know, scientific papers. Vitamin d can help
with the well-being and being happier and such.
And then there's also papers that say that's
a bunch of hooey.
Yeah. Hey, thank goodness I went to a
(09:01):
psychic.
She warned me that someone was gonna swindle
me out of some money. It's the best
$200 I've ever spent.
Very cute. Okay. Very
Well, lastly,
there are no treatments
that are used for summer pattern sad.
Isn't that interesting? Maybe it is
(09:23):
too
small of a percentage of people who haven't
that they put in an effort or they
haven't seen what really the cause is. But
they do give the same antidepressants
for it. So the medication is the same
to help. Right on. Well, I think it
should all go away. I mean, why do
we have the daylight savings time when suddenly
(09:44):
you were up, you know, until six, the
sun was up I know. Right. I know.
And suddenly 04:30 in the afternoon. That is
kind of depressing. Right. Some states have, like,
Arizona doesn't observe it. Well, so That's what
I hear. That's part of them here. Hey,
did you know that the inventor of
fractions was Louis the one sixteenth?
Hey.
Tell me about the seagulls.
(10:05):
Oh, the the seagulls? Yeah. Well, you know,
seagulls why why do why are they called
seagulls?
But,
what are they called when they're flying over
a bay?
Bagels.
She likes them. I pulled that one out
of my hat. That was tough.
Alright.
Let's move on to the next phase of
this. We're right on time, folks.
(10:27):
I have a short prologue here. It only
lasts about ten minutes.
There's something special
about the Southernmost Oregon Coast and Northernmost California.
It's a place that inspires reflection, a place
where stories and songs are born.
Well, today's headliner on the Doc and Jacques
radio show is a name known to many,
and aren't we all fortunate that Laci Young
(10:48):
calls this coastal corner home.
Laci is cute as a button, plus she's
a songwriter, a singer, a guitarist, a mother,
and
a young old soul that fits perfectly into
our forested seaside setting.
Lacey blends her heartfelt lyrics and melodies that
linger long after her songs are over, capturing
(11:08):
both the joy and ache of life in
every note. Lacey's song will captivate you with
their honesty.
One of the earliest,
memories I have
was,
let's see. Was yeah. Was getting the pleasure
to know you better,
when, you came down to KFUG,
(11:29):
and you you you came in and, I
just I when I drove up, you were
in the parking lot in the back of
a pickup truck. Alright? Hanging on the playing
the
guitar with a boot with a big cowboy
hat on top and Boots plays in high
below and singing your songs with soul filled
bravado. It was great memory seeing you. That's
the first time I wow. Look at her.
(11:50):
Over the next forty five minutes
or so, we'll have the pleasure of getting
to know Lacey a little bit better. We'll
talk about her life on the Oregon Coast,
the inspiration behind her songs, and what drives
her to keep writing with such vulnerability and
grace. And, yes, she'll be performing several original
original pieces for us live right here on
the airwaves. So settle in, turn up the
(12:11):
volume and let yourself drift into the soundscape
of Laci Young,
an artist who has a voice that can
make you reflect on life or
she as you chuckle along with her Yeah.
Because she is a true character who sings
songs from the heart. So without any more
verbiage for me, doctor Gigi, and I welcome
Lacey Young to the Doc and Jacques radio
(12:32):
show. Welcome, Lacey. Welcome, Laci. Thank you for
coming. Thank you for having me. I appreciate
it. And that was Oh, my god. Very
nice everything you said. Thank you. Yeah. I
remember I was playing that I was playing
in the back of my truck waiting for
you because I was so nervous.
It was so that's my memory. I will
always have that time. It's just out there
in the parking lot, kind of out on
the gravel out there just singing away full
(12:53):
ago. That was fun. Lacey,
give us an intro. Where were you born
and raised? Well, I was born by default
in Salinas, California.
My mom and dad had gone down there
for my dad's job, and she was pregnant
with me. But my sisters were,
were born here in Gold or in Gold
Beach. Mhmm. And, and so I should have
been born there too,
(13:15):
but I wasn't.
So,
but we basically was raised in Gold Beach.
We moved around a little bit when I
was a kid,
moved up to Portland, moved to Reno,
and then to Washington, to Albany,
and ultimately back down here Oh. When I
was 11. Mhmm. Or I've been here. Settled
down settled down for a while. Yeah. Yeah.
(13:35):
Well, we were going to I we my
sisters and I lived with our grandparents for
a little while, and we were actually going
to go back and live in Reno with
our mom when I was 13.
But our grandma got diagnosed with cancer. And
so we made the decision to move all
the way over here and take care of
her, and we we've been here ever since.
Cool. Nice. Wow. Cool.
(13:56):
What do you like best about you have
been moved all over. What do you like
best here?
I like the,
I like the ocean. Yeah. I go walk
on the beach a lot, and I do
like the woods.
I wouldn't mind going and traveling more into
bigger cities,
but I've always even as a young girl,
even living in Reno, I would much rather
(14:16):
go climb on the hillsides and mountains
than go to the malls with my sisters.
Okay. Good. Yeah. Your sisters do they still
live here? They live in Medford. Oh, close
enough. You from. Do you have your own
family here?
I do. Yeah. I'm married.
When you guys first met me, I was
actually still separated from my husband. We were
going through a rough patch, but, we have
(14:38):
worked things out. And so,
our three girls are really happy about that.
I have my oldest one was I was
pregnant with her before
him and I met. She's 24. Her name's
Hope. She's amazing.
But then we have Paige and Bailey together.
Paige is 16 and Bailey's 13, and
(14:59):
they're just really amazing amazing girls. Sweet. Nice
names too. Yeah.
Our We saw you last summer, was it,
in the mix, so to speak, at the
local festivals with, Chris Cooper and Bruce Ellis?
Christy? Yeah. Yeah. With Christy and Bruce.
And,
(15:19):
yeah, I got asked to kinda come in
and help out with some of the festivals.
I had no idea what I was doing,
but I love parties and festivals are just
big parties. And,
I just kinda showed up and just ran
around and did whatever they told me to
do and got to meet the bands. And
I was kind of, like,
(15:39):
hospitality is what Chrissy kept saying. So I'd
go get stuff for the bands, and I'd
set up little trays and things and just
make sure people were happy and having a
good time. And,
I've always known that there's a lot of
work involved in festivals. I mean, you can
just tell by the amount of people that
show up and all of the things that
are happening. But to actually be involved in
the behind the scenes is incredible. It's exhausting.
(15:59):
I went home one night after it was
the July 4. And by the time I
got home, I was so mental I had
such a great day, but I was so
mentally overloaded that I just sat on my
front porch and I kinda, like, cried. I
was just like,
I can sleep now.
How do you you were busy. We saw
how busy you were. What was your first
instrument that you learned to play?
(16:21):
I kinda started to learn a little bit,
the violin, but then I got moved from
that school
and didn't pick up another instrument until the
guitar. And I was into my
thirties by the time I started to Woah.
Try to learn how to play. Yeah. I
did not think that I would ever be
doing this, honestly.
So Really? Well, you do it well as
(16:43):
really, we'll find out when you play. Do
you play most of your songs are original.
Right? Yes. Okay. Cool. Do you play any
other it's just the violin one time you
played and then now you're sticking to the
guitar? Yep. I've got the guitar. I purchased
a bass, and I do have an electric
guitar. I purchased a cajon, and we have,
in our band, Rogue Strings, we've got it's
all these instruments are for Rogue Strings. But,
(17:05):
we've got some harmonicas and things like that.
Yana's way better at the harmonica than I
am because I'm very shy when I'm trying
to learn something, and she's just, like all
about it and just gets right into it.
Hey, big shout out to Yana. Yana, who
is out there most probably listening. Hope so.
I'll see you in a few weeks, Yana.
Or you can listen to it again. I
mean, you're all just go to kciw.org, and
it's always there. You can just highlight our
(17:27):
show, and then boom, it'll be this will
be posted right after 05:00.
Alright.
Let's see where oh, you don't play any
other mainly the guitar, and you got that
down. Right? Okay.
Who were your big influencers
when you were growing up as far as
musically?
As far as music?
My my mom listened to, like, eighties. She
(17:47):
was a diehard eighties.
So I listened to a lot of Whitesnake
and
Aerosmith
and, yeah, all of that stuff. But also,
like, I loved country.
Tim McGraw,
Don't Take the Girl was one of the
first songs I ever heard of his, and
I fell in love with country music because
of that song.
My dad always listened to The Judds. So
(18:08):
what if I'd go visit him, he'd be
The two gay not ladies? The two ladies.
Yeah. The mom and daughter duo. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. So, like, grandpa tell me about the
good old days. Every time I hear the
Judds, I think of my dad. Or Tanya
Tucker and Delta Dawn. Both my parents loved
that.
Tiffany's, I think we're alone now. I can't
(18:28):
not hear that song and not think of
my parents because Yeah. Yeah. So was that
radio, or was it actually record players that
you had in it? It was radio. Radio.
Yeah. I have a Victrola that was my
dad's, but it needs some work, and I'm
not sure how to where to go to
get it. I think it needs a new
needle, but it's so beautiful. And it's actually
my youngest sister's,
but I'm holding on to it and she
(18:49):
hasn't come to get it yet. So
So is the old Victrola I mean, the
real old one? I mean, wow. What a
trip. I didn't think those were
are still around. Alright. Who are your top,
three performers
presently? Who do you who do you like?
Are you emulate?
Honestly, Taylor Swift is, like, my old son.
That. Yeah. Yeah. Still. She put out an
(19:10):
album, The Tortured Poets department, and I listen
to that almost every single day because the
lyrics are so incredible. The way she put
everything together is just really impressive
to me, and I'm huge on words.
I just,
think she's a lyrical genius.
I also
like,
Miranda Lambert is another artist that I really,
(19:33):
really
like to listen to.
And I was gonna try to think I
can't think of the other one off the
top of my head, but the,
he sings,
Wild and Free, and I can't remember his
name off the top of my head, unfortunately.
I I know that Taylor Swift I believe
there's a small cadre of women that are
billionaires, and I think she's one of them.
(19:54):
She's really wealthy. She's very well. Yeah. Yes.
Yeah. And after her last,
her Eris tour, she
gave, like I think they they determined it
was, like, $750,000
to each person on her crew as a
bonus because the tour had done so well.
So not only is she Wow. Like a
powerhouse, she's super smart, but she's also so
(20:16):
kind and generous and giving. And when she
goes into cities or different countries, she always
picks charities and things to donate to. She's
just a really Kinder to come here. KCIW
could always use go donation me or volunteer
run, and we are your community radio station.
Alright, doc. Take care. So, Lacey, you you,
so, Taylor Swift writes song, but you write
your own songs as well.
(20:38):
How long have you been writing?
I
have seriously writing about,
fifteen years.
Four fifteen years? Yeah. Seriously. Yeah. And I
couldn't play an instrument
for a while, so I was just finally
writing down the ideas
that had been, like, circulate circulating in my
head for so long.
(20:58):
And I didn't actually end up picking up
a guitar and seriously trying to play until
after I had gone down to Reno
as, like, a little vacation.
And at the Peppermill, they always have,
live music. And so over the years, I
would get to meet bands and singers and
stuff and just talk to them. And I
finally got up the courage to ask one
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to, like, read my lyric sheets that I
had with me. And I was, like, trying
to tell her my idea. Her name was
is Erica Sunshine Lee.
And,
I have this song that I eventually want
it to
generate money for Saint Jude's. I wrote it
specifically so, like, all proceeds I want to
go to Saint Jude's. Uh-huh. And so I
gave it to her and I was kinda
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telling her my idea, and I was like,
but I'm not a singer. I don't know
how to play an instrument, but, like, I
can hear it in my head. And she
said she was kind enough. She said that
she would look over the sheets and give
me some,
like, feedback. And I was really hoping she'd
fall in love with it and wanna work
with me on it. And she came back
and she was very honest.
And she just said, you know, unfortunately,
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unless you can pick up an instrument and
actually make it sound the way that you
hear it in your head, nobody's ever gonna
hear it the way you do. Oh, wow.
And so the whole Don't worry. Yeah. The
whole trip back from Reno to here, I
sat on that and I just kept thinking
about it and thinking about it. And I
was like, she's so right and I know
it and I've known it. And I just
took just took being told that,
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I guess,
to finally go and pick it up. And,
I'm not a proficient. I'm not as as
a great, great guitar player. I'm a simple
strummer is what I call myself. But it
did it took that moment for her. So
when you so when you make up the
when you write the lyrics, it's not like
a pro it's not a poem. It's something
you actually hear in your head. You hear
the melody. Mhmm. Oh, wow. Okay. So it's
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it's it's a double whammy. Right? The lyrics
and the music. Yeah. Very easy. So you
start do you start with the the words
and then you put music to that, or
do you play a song or you play
the the music first and then put words
to it? It it depends. Because sometimes,
sometimes I'll have an idea, and so I'll
try to, like, decide how how do I
want to
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create this in my mind so that when
I'm talking or singing about it, that it
comes across as, like, a a picture or
something for somebody else. Right. And,
so then, like like, the words and the
melody kind of flows together that way, and
then I have to find the right chords
to go with it. But,
like, the last song that I wrote, it
actually started with a melody ID. I was
just kinda messing around, and I was like,
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okay. I like the way this progression is.
And then I started kinda, like, humming along
to it, and then I found kind of
a melody that I liked. And I was
actually just showing my little sister the very
first recording of it, and she's like, that
doesn't even sound like it anymore. I was
like, it does. It did in my head.
I couldn't get it right first.
Okay. I was gonna say, are most of
your songs original? They're all original. Yeah. Okay.
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That's that right there is an accomplishment. How
many songs do you think you've written?
I almost around 50.
Around 50 by myself. You put to music
then. Yes. Okay. Yeah. And I've got a
bunch of things that I need to
complete and a bunch of ideas that but
I'd I'll go through. I have, like, probably
seven different notebooks stashed. I was gonna say,
how many notebooks and and napkins, things like
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that? Right? Yeah. It's terrible. Right. I started
texting myself, and I actually had to I
was at a Brothers Reed concert, and my
sister looks over at me and she goes,
are you texting yourself? And I was like,
yeah. I got an idea.
Like, don't judge me. I had to program
it in as me because I I would
just type in my number at night if
I was, like, falling asleep.
And one night, I typed it in and
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I sent it. It was like this really
dark idea. And the next morning, I got
a response that was like, oh, I'm sorry
for what you're going through. I accidentally typed
in somebody else's number. I'm like, oh, sorry.
So I had to put my own self
in my phone. You know who she she
reminds me of Fallon, my daughter. Oh, he
You got that laugh and that kinda that
hand movement. So cool. So when did you
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actually go and perform on the stage?
The first stage that I played on was,
all Yana's fault, and I hope she's listening
right now.
We were we'd been practicing together and playing
together, aside from aside from the fair. We
I did play at the fair. Oh, that's
sort of common. But,
As a talent show thing. But, she took
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me up to mister Ed's in Port Orford,
and she was like, okay. So there's gonna
be, like, several people kind of like a
open mic kind of thing where you kinda
like Yeah. Just play a few songs, get
off the stage, let somebody else do it.
So I was nervous and I was I
was like, okay. Well, let's do it. I
gotta do it anyways. I gotta be scared
and do it anyways. That's what I tell
my girls all the time.
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And halfway up to Port Orford, she goes
she goes, oh, yeah. It's just gonna be
us for two hours. Oh. And I was
Oh my god. I think I melted into
the seat. I remember thinking, like, oh, please
just open up and just, like, swallow me
whole earth because I don't know that we
can do this. And we walk in, and,
I'm so, like you know tunnel vision? I'm
(25:53):
so mad at myself still for this. I
had tunnel vision, so we walk in. I
was, like, shaking. And this guy, he goes,
hey. If you girls go play a song
right now, I'll put you on I'll put
you on my Instagram.
And I'm like, I don't think we're supposed
to start till seven.
Eddie's like, okay. And I'm like
and then later after that,
it was Rick it was Rick from Pawn
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Stars.
He was there.
He was there. He would if we would
have played Ho in church that day, I
swear it probably would have, like, done something
different. But, like
yeah. I'm really hoping that there's gonna be
another time that he shows up there, though,
that we're there so I can tell him
that story. That's the owner, the the main
guy. Right? From it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. From
the Oh. Yes. From the show. Right. So
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do you take ideas for your for your
music and your lyrics from life's
lessons?
Like, love, family,
work Oh. Themes. Is that where you Yes.
Absolutely. Your creative Except for work. Work is
very boring. So no. I work in the,
assessor's office. Oh, you'd love your job, though,
right, if they're listening?
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I mean, I love my people. There we
go. No. I'm just kidding. I actually I
don't mind it. I've been there for a
long time. I started when I was
20.
So I've been there twenty one years. Woah.
And Are you giving yourself away? I do.
Yeah. I'm not worried about that. Yeah.
But I just I do like knowing the
job and knowing that I can help people
and reminding people that, like, we have a
(27:17):
duty to the property taxpayers, but also the
districts and to, like, how we can all
manage that together because people hate paying taxes.
And I don't blame them. I don't wanna
pay mine either. Yeah. Really. No kidding. Yeah.
Yeah. So you started with
Diana? Yes. It was an oh my gosh.
I can't believe she went the way up.
Oh, it's just gonna be us. O M
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G G. What other bands did that lead
into? Did it lead into you going with
other bands? No. No. Actually,
when,
I've not played any any,
in any other bands.
We created Rogue Strings together, basically. Rogue Strings.
Mhmm.
We started out so I had written a
song for about my parents, because I lost
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them both.
And I was my grand
sorry. My uncle, my mom's
best friend and her brother, he was coming
to visit from Alaska.
And so I was like, okay.
Kinda play this for him because I really
wanted to. And it was at a Super
Bowl party that he was having at my
aunt's house?
And so I told him I just wanna
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show him this song, and I wrote for
him. Because my mom, before she passed away,
every time he'd come to visit, she'd show
him my lyric sheets because she's all so
excited, but she never neither ever got to
hear me sing or anything, but she saw
like, I'd bring her my sheets and be
like,
I'm working towards this, but I can't do
it yet. So she'd always be so excited,
and so I wanted to show that to
him. And Yana was there, And so they
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came out, and they listened to it. And
then she said she wanted to start working
with me.
And,
so we started playing together, and she couldn't
play a guitar either when we first started.
And she kept saying that she couldn't, and
I gave her one of mine. Oh. And
I said, yes. You can. And so she
took it home, and she started teaching herself
how to play guitar. And,
the first song that she wrote was called
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stupid boy, and it was so hard of
a chord change transition strumming pattern thing. It
was just incredible. I was blown away. It
was amazing. And I keep telling him, like,
we need to bring that into our sets
when we play because I know a lot
of Stupid boy. Like it. Yeah. There you
go.
Time flies when you're having fun, folks. It's
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of you.
We got ten more minutes to talk. We're
gonna Just about. Okay. I wanna know. Do
you
do you prefer singing solo
or with Yana? With Yana. 100%.
Yeah.
I'd I'd like playing solo because it's it's,
it puts all the pressure on you, but
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I love playing with her so much more
because we feed off each other. We just
have a good time together, and I feel
like we sound better together.
And You you yeah. We saw you obviously.
I was not there that time. That's when
Lucas filled in for me when the both
of you were Lucas, when are you? Yeah.
Lucas, I missed it. I listened to it.
I was in Missouri or some place, you
know, and I heard it. That was good.
I couldn't get back. I think it's snowing
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or something. Yeah. That's right. I was stuck
in a snowstorm Yeah. Way back in Nebraska
or something. Yeah. Yeah. It was horrible. Yeah.
Oh, how cute. But anyway, you guys are
fun to to to listen to or to
watch you guys play because you look at
each other and you sing and then, you
know, I mean, you feed off each other.
It's The ropes, strings, just the two of
you? Just the two of us. Yeah. Yeah.
Very nice.
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So what is
coming up maybe in the next few years,
what is your dream musically? You know, do
you have a musical dream? Do you wanna
stay where you are at, just expanding, or,
you know, you wanna be what's her name?
Oh, she could open up for Taylor Swift?
I know. Yeah. Yeah. Taylor Swift. If I
ever had the opportunity to open for Taylor
Swift, I would 100%
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take it. 100%.
She'd only give you $750,000.
So I would do it for free.
I would probably try to pay her. Like,
I know you don't need any money, but
I'll give you some anyways.
I'm an assessor. I got lots of money.
No.
That is a common misconception, sir.
Oh. No. It would be it would be
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incredible for our music to take off.
That would be amazing. I would I'm definitely
open to wherever
this journey takes me.
If it doesn't, though, I started writing and
playing and singing
as therapy for myself. Mhmm. So,
and with the idea of if if I
could ever, like, share it with anybody, if
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it touched somebody's heart and helped them,
then that was, you know, good enough for
me. Now do you record? Do you make
the music accessible for others to listen? We
have been, but I will not lie. I
am terrible at recording, and it's been difficult
because
we both work,
full time, essentially. We've got kids. She's got
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boys in sports. My girls aren't playing sports
right now. But so that just takes up
a lot of time and then traveling,
and just life life things happen. So we
it's very difficult to get together. I'm really
hoping that her and I can get together
this weekend and kind of maybe get
a plan in place. We've been starting to
book shows a little bit more. So and
then we've got the festivals that are coming
(32:53):
up. We're gonna be here in Brookings. Yeah.
You're gonna be helping again for some of
that. I don't I told Chrissy last year.
I was like, I don't know how much
I can commit, but I know that she
needs that from me soon. So I finally
got the dates for those, and I need
to talk with Yana and talk with Chrissy
and figure out everything so that I can
because I'd love to do it. I had
a good time even though it was a
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lot. Is this helping out, or will you
be able to play too?
You know, if they want us to play,
I would absolutely play. I it would wouldn't
be too hard. I'd already be down there.
Yeah. So what is the one that, our
friend kinda like the Kings,
John Mendoza? He's having a a concert. Oh,
yeah. Battle of the No. He's having bands
come in on the twenty eighth. This is
(33:34):
in Crescent City. I'll talk to you about
it later. Oh, okay. Yeah. Possibly. He's I'm
I'm gonna be one of the judges who's
got me some such a Yeah. Battle of
the band. Right? For radio personality.
Yeah. What did they want? Old judge. So
any,
gigs coming up? And by the way, I
wanna back up.
Yana asked me when I she's on in
two weeks from now. Yana comes on in
three weeks. Three weeks. And I she said,
I just found out from Lacey that she's
(33:55):
on. And I do you wanna do you
want me to come in with her? And
I didn't know what to say. So I
said, I'll just keep it separate.
I
you are welcome to come in when she
comes in, and it's been a few weeks.
Well, I just when you sent me the
email of this information,
I saw that it said that there's, like,
there's room for every There is. We have
three other guys. Yeah. And so I, just
was like,
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come on. Yeah. Okay. Duh.
Okay. Well, she it implies we could ask
her a lot of the questions and Oh,
yeah. You guys could play together. Yeah. And,
well, and I don't need to play. I
just come down to support and just to
hang out. There you go. Because yeah. But
bring your guitar, Jessica. Yeah. Just just just
just
so any gigs other than just with your
your
(34:36):
Yeah. We've got we're gonna play, New Year's
Eve in Gold Beach at the Sea Star
from eight to eleven. We're gonna Sea Star.
The Sea Star. Yeah. What is that? It's
like a local divey bar, and I love
it so much. The sea star. Mhmm. Dive
y. Yeah. It's just right up my alley.
You you walk in, and it's kinda dark
and you Kinda slip on the floor a
little bit. No. There's carpet.
(34:57):
Oh, there's carpet. Yeah. Carpet in a bar.
Bad. Bad. Bad.
Yeah. But and then we're we're gonna play
up at mister Ed's on, January 2 from
seven to nine and,
the World Headquarters on January 30. Here in
Brookings or Yes. Right? Or Yep. Harbor? Yep.
Is that the 101? Wait. What night is
that?
Monday? The we're, Friday. Friday. Friday, January 30.
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That's a good gig. Yeah. And then I'm
gonna have, we're gonna be playing back up
at mister Ed's later in March on the
fourteenth, and,
I'm gonna have a solo show in March
at Augustina's from two to four. Wow. So
and then Yana will have one also later.
I don't know what the Yana had one
last week. Right? Yes. Yeah. She had one
this last Sunday. Well, good for both of
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you. And,
what's your favorite local venue of all these
ones that you've been talking about?
I think if I had to pick a
favorite one, it'd probably be the SeaStar.
I The DiBiator. The DiBiator. I I got
we gotta go up for now. We gotta
we'll give you a call. We'll come hunt
down. I'll buy you a drink. Heck yeah.
Yeah. Anytime. Yeah. Mary, she's
(36:03):
a bartender down there, and she's been there
for for a long time. My older sister,
which is actually her birthday today. Happy birthday,
older sister. Yep.
She,
used,
well, Mary's worked there forever. My sister worked
there for a long time. So What's your
sister's name? Rhiannon. Rhiannon. Rhiannon. Happy happy birthday
to you. Alright.
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You're always for hire.
Do you do weddings or parties? Or
I mean, we could, but I don't know
many people who or brides that would want
you to be singing
drunk love or sweat like a hoe in
church at their weddings.
And so we don't really have any covers,
and we don't know how we're not working
with a drummer right now or anything like
(36:44):
that. So It's a straight acoustic guitar. Yeah.
It's just two acoustics, and it's pretty fun.
Know the bachelorette one. Bachelorette
material. Right? That's what I was gonna say.
We're gonna hear it we're gonna hear it,
like a Hoenn shirt. I just love this.
Yeah. Probably more for the bachelorette than the
actual wedding. Alright. How before we get into
you singing,
two or three of your original songs and
(37:06):
having fun with that, how do people reach
you? How do they contact you?
We our email is roguestrings@gmail.com.
That's You can send us a message through
Messenger,
on Facebook.
We you can probably send us a message
through, like, Distrokid
or any of those other products. Got on
Facebook and typed in Rogue Springs. It's gonna
come up. Mhmm. And then one of the
(37:28):
two of you will answer. But do you
have you don't have a website yet? Not
yet. You will? Yep. Yeah. We will eventually.
We just have not. I'm not super techy
savvy, so I'm kind of like I just
kind of like
push to the side. Yeah. We'll sell you
ours. We have one that we've done nothing
with for one year now. It's been under
construction. Oh my gosh. You click on docandjock@.com
(37:49):
and it comes up under construction.
For when, Tom, you gotta fix it for
us.
No website yet. No, you're on Facebook. Any
phone numbers or anything else you wanna pass
out? Okay. No. No. Just call the assessor's
office. Yeah. For sure. You can always find
me there. I'm there all the time.
Oh,
alright. Well Yeah. So and we have a
(38:10):
lot of merch too. So because our a
lot of our songs that we play, yeah,
out,
even if we do a solo show, we
have, like, flasks, shot glasses. We have tank
tops. We've got some CDs and,
koozies and Hey. Yeah. Had t shirts. We
don't have t shirts yet. We've been we've
been scouring sites to try to find, like,
(38:30):
a good quality for a decent price so
that we don't have to jack up prices
to people who want to purchase them. That's
another thing I wanted to try to get
together with Yana on this weekend. So, hopefully,
we can do that. But I was bringing
up the merch because I actually I brought
you guys one of our shot glasses as
a thank you for having me in the
shop. I'm gonna tap. There we go. Oh,
that's a shot glass. Wow. That is a
(38:52):
there. Woah.
It looks
huge, but it's not it's less than one
and a half. Less than one and a
half. Try to sit and see it home.
We walk in water with our Well, when
you get your t shirt, she buys I
I don't wear t shirts. I never I'm
not a t shirt guy, but she does
and she'll buy will gladly support you by
one of your pink t shirts that says
roastery. Well, only if you show up to
one of the shows. Okay. Here we go.
(39:12):
We got it again. This is the nice
shot class. Nice shot, man. Plus, thank you
for that gift. Yeah.
Alright. Grab your guitar here and start getting
ready to sing some song. Folks, we're talking
with Laci Young,
who has been a friend of mine and
doctors for about four or five years since
we last oh, I think four years at
least. And we have seen her out about.
You have too. If you if you're anybody
(39:34):
on the music scene or down at the
festivals that is put on by,
Bruce, Ellis, and Chrissy. Chrissy Cooper. Yeah. Cooper.
You you've seen her. So
what are we gonna what's your first song
gonna be, Lacey?
That is I know I was supposed to
pick out songs, and I kept running through
them. And I wasn't really sure what I
was gonna play.
(39:54):
You like spontaneity.
That's I know. It's the worst.
Let's see.
I think I will
play
Yeah.
I was gonna say, I kinda wanted to
play the song that I wrote for my
parents since we talked about that. Do what?
Yeah? Yes. Okay.
(40:15):
What is it called?
I Still Miss You.
Driving through town just the other day
(40:38):
I lost my breath, thought I saw your
face I knew it couldn't
be But my mind plays tricks on me
I pulled over, put my head in my
hands
I sat a while, let the pain sink
in,
trying just
(41:00):
to breathe.
All this time hasn't changed a thing.
I
I don't know what to do
because life
wasn't supposed to be
without
(41:20):
you.
Still hard hard sometimes
to face the day.
I think of all the plans we made
and everything
we'll never get into.
I still
really
miss you.
(41:44):
I still
really
miss
you.
Oh, I miss you
Some days hurt just getting up up
One whiskey in my coffee cup I could
(42:07):
use a break today
But that'll
have to wait
I get home, put the groceries away
I clean up another mess the kids made,
and I talk to you out loud
when no one is around.
(42:29):
I
I
don't know what to do
because life
wasn't supposed to be
without
you.
Still hard sometimes
to face the day.
I think of all the plans we made
(42:52):
and everything
we'll never
get to do.
I still
really miss you.
I still
really miss
(43:14):
you.
Oh, I miss you.
Sunset's
on another day gone.
I'm still trying, but I'm not moving
on. Pain's a heavy load,
and sometimes
(43:35):
you just don't know.
I keep quiet because it's just what you
do.
No one likes all the things we go
through, so we build up these walls.
But sometimes
they have to fall.
I
(43:56):
I don't know what to do
because life
was not supposed to be
without you.
Still hard sometimes
to face the day. I think of all
the plans we made
and everything
(44:16):
we'll never
get to do.
I still
really miss you.
I still
really
miss
you.
(44:36):
Oh, I miss you.
I miss you.
Wow. Oh, that is so sad.
You know,
that's what is beautiful about radio. Live radio
like this, man, that that touched my heart.
We used to both look at each other,
and we we we lost people in our
(44:57):
lives that, you know, you miss people. And
that frames it very well. So that comes
back to what my prologue about you is
that you speak
you speak from the heart. I think that's
what one of the things I would say
about your music. And you just kinda spontaneously,
well, let's see. I think I'll sing this
one of them. Yeah. Right? That was, oh,
so cute. You know? That was a really
(45:18):
good, good song. Well, thank you for being
I'm surprised you have
such an emotional sad song because
all the songs that I have before listened
to were kind of I love the the
emotional one. I know. It's very good. What
like, dang. It's usually the other way around.
They're super funny. I'm sure there are people
out there that could be, that are listening
(45:38):
that that would shed a tear over Oh,
yeah. Great song. Oh my gosh. So Yeah.
You. Is that on Spotify? Is that on
No. No. Not yet. I I need to
get I need to
put more effort into recording.
Okay. Or maybe just get some session musicians.
If there's any out there, hit me up.
I know I you know, we know Ray
(45:58):
Martell with Redwood Records. He's been on the
show multiple times. He'd love to he'd just
do it. He
just you know, no charge, I'm sure, for
a couple of your songs. Get him out
there. You know Jordan Branch? I don't believe
so. No. Yeah. Okay. She sings some powerful
things like that. Okay. What is our next
song? We have let's see. We have about,
yeah, we have about ten minutes. Ten minutes?
(46:19):
Okay.
Well, let's see. We could do a
And we're gonna get my that one favorite
that Yes. Yes. Yeah. Okay. I promise. I
I I it's stuck in my head. Yeah.
We've had people, like, message us after shows
and stuff. Like, a week or so later,
I had this one gal. She goes,
I woke up at 02:30 this morning with
(46:39):
that song stuck in my head, so I
took a shot and I danced around my
living room. And I was like, that's probably
not good for your liver, but that is
hilarious.
Alright. What's this song called? Okay. This song
let's see. Oh,
I think I'm gonna play it's called The
Crow Song.
I haven't played this song for a minute
either.
(46:59):
Fuck it. Remember it? The crow? Like, this
bird crow? No. Like, regret.
Oh, crow is regret? Crow, yeah. Oh. So
when Jan and I first started
working together, I showed her the song, and
we'd be singing it and stuff, and then
it was about a year later,
she goes, why are we singing about a
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bird? And I said, it's not about a
bird. It's not about a bird.
Okay. I gotta look that up on Perplexity.
It's like
crow? Yeah. Yeah. It's like, how does that
like, you eat crow. Like, it's regret kind
of.
Okay. I hope I'm right because if I'm
wrong, that's gonna be bad. Can you look
it up while I'm playing it? I don't
know now. It's it's now been birthed. You've
got it. You're the owner of that one.
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So the, I'm just gonna talk about this
for just a second. The whole reason behind
this song was I was dating this guy,
and he told me that in the beginning,
he goes,
I've just been so bad at, like, not
he basically was like, I just ghost people
when I don't wanna date them anymore. And
I was like, well, I'm not like a
chaser of people. So can you just, like,
give me the respect to tell me that
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you're done? And so that way I don't,
like, call you and bother you.
And he did not. But the night that
I knew it was over, he left. And
I don't know what it was about the
door, the way it shut or something. It
just was I just knew it. I knew
it was done. I never tried to call
him. Finalized.
Yeah. Yeah. And then years later, he wanted
to get back together with me. I was
a little too late. Yeah. There you go.
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Good.
So it's called the crow song.
I don't chase my whiskey,
and I won't chase love.
I'll be damned if I feel like I'm
not enough.
I smile when I think about you packing
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your bags to leave.
You were so sure you'd do so much
better than me. How does that crow taste?
It's a mighty big chunk to chew. How
does regret feel.
Hanging all over you.
You thought you could do better and without
another word, you just turned around and walked
away.
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Boy, I know you know you made a
pretty
big
mistake.
Yeah. I was pretty,
but I was so young. Now look at
me, darling.
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And the woman I become
and the one you settled down with, I
hear she's nice and sweet.
That didn't keep you from trying to crawl
right back to me. How does that crow
taste?
It's a mighty big chunk to chew out
as regret feel.
Hanging all over you.
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You thought you could do better run without
another word. You just turned around and walked
away.
Boy, Boy, I know you know you made
a pretty big mistake.
I think it's kinda funny.
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Knowing that you're wrong makes me kinda happy.
You ain't moving on,
and I won't lie, kinda like you choking
all regret.
Well, I sip my whiskey
and smoke my cigarette, and how does that
crow taste?
Is it mighty big chunk to chew? How
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does regret
feel?
Hanging all over you.
You thought you could do better run without
another word. You just turned around and walked
away.
Boy, I know you know you made a
pretty big mistake.
You could take another shot and try to
wash them down.
But regrets
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flow, darling.
They don't drown.
Take another shot or two and try to
wash them down. But regrets
flow, darling.
They don't
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Alright. The pro song by hey. I gotta
say, Lacey, you have you were really good
before every I mean, when we're down at
KFUG
years ago, you've gotten
you've just mellowed out. Your voice is just
fluid now. I just
there's no hard edges on anything. Not that
it wasn't beautiful before, but you've really developed
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as an artist. I mean, wow. Thank you.
Wow. Your guitar playing superb too. I know.
I can't believe you learned it that way.
Sounds good. Thank you. Thank you so much.
I appreciate it. I gotta tell you a
funny story though real fast before the last
song. Yeah. No.
My my little sister came to visit, and
she was telling me I didn't play. She's
gonna be so mad at me. I did
not play the songs that she picked for
me to play today.
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But she brought have you seen one of
those, like, little,
like, vibration plates? Have you seen those? So
it's like this little machine where you stand
on it and you, like, vibrate your legs
and stuff. So she brought that, and she
was making me practice on it so that
I would have to figure out how to
keep my voice more controlled. And that was
the hardest thing that I think I've ever
had to do. But, yeah, when I finally
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started to figure out how to do that,
it felt really, really cool. I was like,
please leave out here so I can work
on that more. Steady
steady voice. Really good. You hit it all.
Okay. We have one song that left for
you to play, and that's one that has
stuck with me ever since I heard it.
I've always requested the you to play it
when you do. And it's called what's the
actual name? Sweating Like a Ho in Church.
Sweating Like a Ho in Church. And you
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will find out why it's got such a
beat to it that is so fun and
funny, and thank you. If you'll play that
and Alright. Sing a little. Absolutely.
It's like a band or amp
what do they call it? Anthem. Yeah. Yeah.
Yana says it's our You You Ding Dong
song.
There's some movie that she correlates that to
with Will Ferrell in it, and,
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I can't remember the name of it off
the top of my head. Ding Dong. Yeah.
So Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty funny though. But
we wrote this, we were actually up the
creek because we'd take our kids up the
creek all the time when we were when
we were first starting playing together and stuff.
And it was so hot up there. And
I said that because I've heard it several
times over the years and stuff, and she
started laughing so hard. And she because she's
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never heard that saying before. And she goes,
we gotta write a song about that. And
I was like, we can't write a song
about that.
And then we started working on it. Oh,
you wrote a song about that. I love
it. Sweating Like a Ho in Church by
Laci Young.
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Did something last Saturday night. Not proud of
it. I can't deny. Couldn't help it.
No. I couldn't help
it. That's how it works in this small
town. You winked at me, and I looked
down. It was simple
and so very sinful.
Now I'm sweating like a hole in church.
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Sweating like a hole in church. What was
I thinking?
I was just drinking.
Sweating like a hole in church.
Sweating like a hole in church. Why was
I thinking?
I was just drinking.
I was just drinking.
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Came into church lipstick all wrong. You looked
at me. I fixed my thong and I
smiled.
Yeah. It's been a while.
That girl of yours tell her the truth.
What went down in the confession booth? It
was simple
and so very simple.
Now I'm sweating like a hoe in church.
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Swinging like a hoe in church. What was
I thinking?
I was just drinking.
Sweating like a hole in church.
Swimming like a hole in church. What was
I thinking?
I was just drinking.
I was just drinking.
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Don't give a damn what the preacher says.
Still taste the whiskey on my breath. Oh,
brother.
My holy fire water.
Forgive me, Jesus. I have sinned. We both
know I'm gonna do it again. It's simple.
I'm so very sinful.
Now I'm sweating like a hole in church.
(55:47):
Swimming like a hole in church. What was
I thinking?
I was just drinking.
Swimming like a hole in church.
Swimming like a hole in church. Why was
I thinking?
I was just drinking.
I was just drinking.
(56:10):
My friend The Hangover
is gonna
take over.
Spinning my head with revenge
So now I'm sweating like a hole in
church
Sweating like a hole in church What was
I thinking?
I was just drinking
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sweating like a hole in church.
Swinging like a hole in church. What was
I thinking?
I was just drinking.
I was just drinking.
I was just drinking.
I was just drinking.
(56:55):
Oh my god. There it is. So good.
How many times we've been we just did
this last week. I we're driving somewhere out
we've been driving for a couple of hours,
and suddenly it's just sweating like a Hawaiian
shirt. Yeah. Sweat like a Hawaiian shirt. What
was I thinking?
I was just drinking.
Oh my goodness. Yeah. Lacey, you're You're welcome.
Always a pleasure to have you on the
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show. All we we gotta come back every
few months really seriously. Play some play some
new ones. And you're welcome if Yana wishes,
to come with her on two weeks, I
think it is, from now or the '3.
January. Sorry. Yeah. Thank you so much for
coming in and letting us about your backstory.
Very cool. Very cool. And then Very nice.
Playing your wonderful songs. I know I know,
Tom Bozek was there filming you too. I'll
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try to post this on on Facebook tomorrow.
Okay. Thank you so much. Thanks for having
me. I really appreciate the opportunity. Alright. I
had so much fun. Thank you. It was
a fun show. Thank you, honey. Alright. Do
we have any time left for anything? For
a fun time? Yeah. We have. What about
that? No. Okay. Give us a quote. Give
us a quote. Okay.
Sending Christmas cards is a good way to
let your friends and family know that you
(57:58):
think they're worth the price of a stamp.
Okay. Alright. How much does it, cost,
for Santa to park his sleigh, doctor? How
much? Nothing. It's on the house.
And I asked my dog, dog, what's 2
minus 2?
He said nothing.
Okay.
That that's it. Oh, that's it. Everybody, you
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have been listening to the Doc and John
show on KCOW
one hundred point seven FM in Brookings, Oregon.
We hope you have enjoyed our show as
much as we have, learning about late I
see. Yeah. Yeah. Indeed. Peace and prosperity to
everyone out there. Thanks again to Tom Bozak,
Linda Bozak for listening,
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