August 17, 2025 • 55 mins
In this episode of the Doc & Jacques radio variety show, Dr. GiGi Reed and Jacques Kepner begin with an interview with Dan Springen, executive director of the Wild Rivers Film Festival, about the festival’s diverse film lineup, local engagement, and unique opportunities for attendees to interact with filmmakers. Then they speak with Troy and […]
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Welcome,
everyone.
You have now entered the cosmic radio receptors
of ACOW
one hundred point seven FM
in Brookings, Oregon. Uh-huh.
Thank you for tuning into this week's serious
fabulous program. Yes. I'm doctor Gigi, and my
cohost is, as always, Jacques Kepner. How are
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you?
I'm fine.
We were laughing here like crazy. Greetings, everyone.
A big shout out to our sound engineers,
Ray Simon and Tom Bozek, and I think
Michael Gorse is in there back there somewhere
else. Welcome to the Doc and Jacques Radio
Variety Show. I wanna mention that you are
hearing this live show on KCIW in Brookings,
Oregon right now. That said, this very same
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show will be syndicated and will be rebroadcast
in exactly one week from now.
And to the large audience down on KZH
96.7
and Eureka and Humboldt
at eight in the morning. And then again,
a few hours later at 1PM on my
old alma mater, KFUG one hundred and one
point one FM in Crescent City, California. So
now you know
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this show is growing. And doctor Gigi and
I have got your coasts
covered.
Okay, doc. I have a confession to make.
What?
Last night, while you were asleep,
I had a date secretly.
It was really good.
Yep. Tonight, I think I'll have a fig.
Alright. Before we introduce our super talented and
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legendary musical guest today, doctor Gigi and I
were so impressed with last week's guest, Dan
Sprangen,
who amongst many other talents is the executive
director of the Wild Rivers Film Festival taking
place here in Brookings, Oregon
for the next four days. So we invited
him back today for a short cameo appearance
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to give us any and all last minute
updates regarding this coastal cultural annual event. Welcome,
Dan. Spring in. Hi, you guys. How are
you? Alright. Now remind our audience what's starting
in Brookings, Oregon
tomorrow, Thursday, August
14.
Yeah. Mhmm. It's the Wild Rivers Film Festival.
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So we have,
we have four days of films that are
happening right here in town. So the Redwood
Theater,
the library,
and the Chetco Players Playhouse.
And How many films do you show? We've
got about thirty hours
of original content. So it's really locations?
Yeah. Yeah. Well, actually, two locations at the
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Redwood and then one at the library and
one at the Chetco Players Playhouse.
Very cool. Wow. Cool. Works Now what generous
genre?
Zuzhanra.
What is you. What
genre? I thought you were German. Weren't you
German? That's the big French. You grew up
right on the French border. Oh, for no.
That's that's Furman.
Furman instead of German. French and She would've
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seen the look she just I didn't know
Furman. She's never heard that. Furman.
No. Okay. I know Spanglish.
Spanglish. It's okay. What was the question?
Since we just had that whole ordeal.
What genre? What kind of Oh, oh, yeah.
So we've got just about everything. We have,
we have feature films. We have documentary features.
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We have short documentaries,
short films,
and then everything
from comedy
to horror films,
and a couple really good thrillers
this year. Any animation. I think I asked
you that last week. There's just the one
animation that we have this year, and it's
a short, but it's really worth your time.
A ten minute? Yeah. It's not even ten
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minutes. It's, four minutes and fifty one seconds.
It's called COVID dystopia.
COVID. And it's drawn hand drawn by a
Disney,
artist from from Disney. Wow. So every single
frame in four minutes and fifty one seconds
and you have to remember, that's 24 frames
per second.
Every single frame is hand drawn. That's a
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lot of drawing. Now these are, you just
said, from Disney. Are any of these local
or regional
films? Do we have any answers? Yeah. Yeah.
There are some from, from Oregon. We've got
Emma Was Here from,
from Medford area.
We've got a couple out of Portland. We
have,
we have a one, it's called the,
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the it's called the Salmon Run, and it's
about these three women who come right through
Oregon following the path of the salmon
after they took down the
Klamath,
Klamath Falls, dams? Yeah. The Klamath Falls. When
they took the dams down. Yeah. And there's
this beautiful, beautiful little art piece with these
women,
dancing underneath the Klamath
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Bridge, I believe it's called.
But they're suspended in the air, and they're
doing this acrobatic Oh, I see. The ladies
suspended from the air. They did that off
the stages. Yeah. It's really it's really amazing.
Hey. That's 5,760
pictures.
That's a that's a lot of drawing. Doctor
would know that the the gym and the
gym and doctor. Oh, she knows these things.
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Uh-huh. Well, I calculated that. People get to
meet the directors and the actors and producers
of these films. They do. Yeah. So, I
mean, you know how tricky it is to
get to Brookings in the first place. So,
so there'll be some films that have the
filmmakers in town and some,
some that won't. But we have, Eve Annenberg
coming in. We have Malin Dominguez. We have,
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most of the folks who made the Oregon
films, they'll be in attendance.
So anytime that there's a filmmaker here,
you'll have the opportunity with your VIP pass
to get on the red carpet and take
pictures in front of the step and repeat.
But also,
no matter if you're just a a day
pass holder or a festival pass holder,
there'll be a q and a, question and
answer session, after every film as long as
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the filmmaker's present. Oh, very cool. How much
are the tickets? So tickets are $20 for
a day pass. Woah. Good deal. Yeah. Yeah.
You can get twelve hours of watching movies
for $20. I mean There you go. Do
the math on that, doc.
Yeah. She she'll have the calculator out. She's
gonna use German math. 47 per movie.
That's probably pretty close. Yeah. Pretty close. $50
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for a festival pass. And if you wanna
roll with all the filmmakers and go to
all the happy hours and all the parties,
a VIP pass is only a $150.
So $150
gets you Four days of day. Every four
days of everything you could imagine. Do they
go to the gate? Where can they get
those to? Right at box office at the
Redwood Theater, or they can go online at
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www.
I don't think they say that anymore. Yeah?
Yeah. Sure. Oh, we do. Okay. So www.wildriversfilmfestival.com.
Very cool. Now I a question I wanted
to ask you last week, we've only got
a time for a couple more questions here,
but
who does the vetting for these things? Who
does who are you are you one of
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the judges that that takes on do you
get a lot more submissions and you allow
Well movies themselves? Yeah. That's a great question.
But, because Brookings is a boutique festival and
it's, it's pretty new,
only three years old Yeah.
The word really isn't out to all the
filmmakers yet. So what I do is because
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I run the Orlando Film Festival. Huge one.
Eight day affair. Right? Yeah. Eight day eight
day festival.
It's been going it's in its twentieth year
right now. I've been the executive director for
eighteen years of that. So yeah. So what
I do is I cherry pick. You know,
I take the films that I like for
my festival and bring them here. Oh, nice.
Yeah. So we have the cherry picking You
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do. You have the you have the cream
of the crop. Creme de la creme. That's
so if we love the film, we say,
hey. That's part partially your influencer.
It it it certainly is. But if you
hate it I was just gonna say, we're
gonna blame it on the other as it'll
be if you work Doc.
What?
Doc, pick that one up. I think it's
her work. Break. Wow. Okay. Again, it when
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does it happen?
It's August 14 through the seventeenth. So literally,
if you're listening today, being the thirteenth, it
starts show today. Yeah. Starts tomorrow, and it
finishes up on Sunday with an award show
at the Elk's Lodge. And then all of
you people that are hearing this next week,
after this affair has gone off on kzzh
and on kfug,
well, wait till next year. And maybe Who's
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there? Maybe you could reach out to Dan
Springen and find out if, he might be
able to bring a festival to your area.
Does Eureka have one? I don't know. I'd
love to. Yeah. That's that's one of the
things and I'll be I'll be quick. I
know you got a big show coming up.
Is there are so many underserved
areas when it comes to independent cinema.
Everybody has a place to go and watch
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Hulk nine or Spider Man 14. That's Multiplex.
Yeah. But
there aren't many places that you can go
and watch independent cinema. And when I say
independent, I mean films that are made
independent of the Hollywood system and usually made
for between 100,000 and, let's say, a million,
million 2, somewhere in that ballpark.
But these stories are amazing, and they just
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don't get the mainstream play, but they do
at film festivals.
So if you're listening out there and you
want a film festival in your area,
just, you know, track me down or track
down anybody
on board for Wild Rivers Film Festival. Wild
Rivers,
very cool. 05/2003. Right? It's a nonprofit.
So people could reach out to you. If
there are angels out there that would like
to donate to a fantastic good cause and
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a great festival, then you could reach out
to, the Wild Rivers, film festival. Yeah. We
have a sponsor and a donate page. So
if you have a company, you could sponsor,
and we'll put your name up in lights.
Right on.
And if you are just a angel who
wants to help young
filmmakers,
get a leg up and and help a
festival that helps them,
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you can you can also do that on
the website. Wow. Worth a call. Well, now
we know. And we appreciate it that you
came back on for this little cameo appearance.
We wish you luck. We will see you
around.
We'll see you at the festival.
And I will give this
Troy Spence just gave me one of his
CDs. He gave me four of them. So
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may I? Absolutely. He had this.
There's a cover charge for them.
I'll I'll trade you a day pass. How's
that? I'll trade you a day pass. I
can't wait to answer that. Thank you guys
so much. Thank you so much. Dan Springen,
thank you for coming in. Appreciate it, and
have a good good I know you're busy,
busy, busy. So get out there and have
fun. And we will see you next week
in the in the in the as a
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headliner doing what these gentlemen are doing today.
The musician. As a musician. Can't wait. Right?
Got to play with the elastic. Very exciting.
A lot of fun. Yep. Okay. That's great.
Thank you very much. Appreciate it. And there
we go, folks. Now you know.
Alright. You're tuned into the syndicated community radio
station at KCIW,
KFUG, and KZZH. And it's that time to
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introduce our headliners.
Now these two guys,
these two brothers that are sitting across from
us have been a source of fun and
inspiration and great bluesy
rock music ever since I arrived on the
scene five years ago and I know you've
been doing a lot
longer than that.
Not only are they incredibly talented,
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but they're genuinely good,
super friendly, very approachable,
and polished entertainers. So without any extra verbiage
from me, doctor Gigi and I wish to
welcome Troy and Rodney Spence to the Doc
and Shock Radio Variety Show. Welcome to Spence
Brothers. Alright. Good. Thank you very much. Thank
you. I just wanna in. Yeah. I just
wanna add that, Troy Spence is single.
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Wait a minute. I'm looking. Oh oh, okay.
And I'm looking. Rodney. Rodney, is that true?
Because I kinda know somebody else. I I
don't know him. Yeah. Yeah. Never met him
before.
What am I Is he the older? He's
the older brother who who's alright. Well, wonderful.
Gigi, lead off and ask our very special
guest. What should I have? Well, long overdue.
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You guys have been you've been on our
radar for so long, and thank you for
finally coming in tonight. Oh, thank you for
making this show what it is. Alright. So
where were you brothers born and raised?
Sacramento, California. Both of you? Yes. Mhmm. What
is the age difference?
Take it?
The older guy was first. Yeah. What's the
age difference?
Six years. Oh. Not
too bad. All four brothers were six years
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apart. So you had no Oldest and youngest?
Mhmm. Yeah. Oh. Wow. I don't know if
they worked it out that way or it
just happened that way. Now the oldest was
Bill, was it? Mhmm. Yeah. Bill bill is
passed. Okay. Yes. Correct.
And Bill I I got the inside scoop
on the age difference from my mom that
I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna let that cat out of
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the bag.
Alright. Okay. But and then the baby is
not you, Rodney? You No. It's, Dave. Dave.
David. Yeah. Dave lives in this Brookings in
the Yeah. He's he's actually the one that,
got us to move down here. We were
living up in Seattle for thirty three, thirty
four years. Woah.
And, he called Troy one day. He says,
hey. You know that RV? It's next to
me over there. He says, yeah. They're selling
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it. Do you want it? And he says,
yeah. Absolutely. So that's what got him down
here. Then they called me There's another one.
Four or five months later
and said, hey. You know that RV? It's
in between me and Troy. I said, it's
for sale. Do you want it? Yeah.
And boom. So here we are. And now
you live in Harbor, Brookins? We're at Harbor
Harbor. Alright. Cool. Harbor. Harbor. Right above the
marina there. Very cool. Right above the marina.
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Cool. No. The majority of the lot was
spent then in Seattle.
Yeah. So Rodney and his family moved up,
to,
well, it's
A little town called Belfair, Washington out of,
the Bremerton area. Yeah. The Puget Sound Naval
Ship. I moved up there in '77. Troy
came up in '79. He was still rocking
down in Hollywood. Yeah. You guys are following
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each other, Then I can't get rid of
it
keeps coming back.
It's your fault for telling me your address.
I'm all damn it.
But it's like it's like the what did
they the joke that I started out with
nothing,
and I still have most of the left.
Yeah. There we go.
Boy, they say You you moved here when?
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In 02/2011.
02/2011?
When they have the,
also the tsunami.
Oh, yeah. He was down here. He said
he was standing out here watching boats flow
out the river out the sea before I
come down here. Oh, wow. Standing above. And
I've been here all this time, and they
didn't have another salami. I'm really bummed out,
you know? It was the other day, the
last couple weeks ago. Alright. That one. Yeah.
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Raised to a 12 inch. Yeah. But across
the city, it hit pretty hard. Yeah. Yeah.
It crossed the city pretty hard. I mean,
it broke a couple of wires and then
I saw it. They were in the wrong
place. Out the entire I hung up that,
and one of them broke over my jacket.
Went in the water and shorted out the
entire harbor because one of their, main outlets
Yeah. Broke off. And not from the tsunami
or the earthquake. It was from a guy
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leaving his boat. He dragged his one one
rope too far, and it hit the thing
and pulled it right out. So We learned
from this timing. And is this your final
stop, do you think? Or are you gonna
be On the rodeo. Oh, yeah. Yeah? I
mean, there's not a better place in the
world to spend, the rest of my days.
Yeah. And I'll be 80 in September. Woah.
Oh, I have a party.
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What what days? It's September when?
September 3. September 3. So we hope it's
a Friday, Saturday, maybe a Sunday? Tuesday. It's
a Tuesday. Oh, darn it. But, there,
We'll have a party. There's a, a band
playing later on that month at the Checo
Brewery.
And a lady friend of ours is just
our number one fan. She's gonna throw a
party for me. Wow. Nice. How cool. Do
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you know, Luisa? You wanna give a shout?
Yeah. Lisa Lapri. Yeah. Oh, Lisa Lapri. Yeah.
We know, Luisa. Hey. It's a Wednesday.
It's a Wednesday. She looked at that doctor
looking up. She's let's go through a Sunday.
To use my phone for something. Wow. Well,
I'm gonna start on a Wednesday and go
until
Yeah. For an account. Great idea. There's nothing
else for that. So yeah. We have been
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following you, for a long time,
even before I I met Gigi. What is
your Texas connection? Is there just you, Rodney?
Me? Yeah.
The woman I've been Alright. Dating for the
past twelve years. Cool.
Jesus. Texas. Do you wanna give a shout
out to anybody? Yeah. My girl, Lynn. Lynn.
Hey, Lynn. How's it going? We've known each
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other since 1965.
Oh, you were, like, one? And now?
We're both on the same high school page.
Wow. That's how we found each other. You
say, hey, you remember me? I says, of
course I remember you. Not. So, we've been
going back and forth from Texas to here
for twelve years. So we're in the process
of eliminating the property in Texas and maybe
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maybe making this our permanent. Oh, very nice.
Where in Texas?
Little town called Sheridan. It's between
Austin and Houston.
Oh, okay. And Victoria is down at the
bottom. It's like right in the middle of
that little triangle. Very cool. Yeah. Tell them
about your daughter.
Yeah. I was gonna say, do you have
kids? Yeah. She's in she lives in Abilene.
She's been there for a long time. In
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Abilene? More Texas stuff. Now how about you,
Troy? You got kids down in the Bay
Area or in the Not that I know
of.
None's none's got a hold of it yet.
That was a 23 and medium. Right. I
get a lot of partying in the sixties.
So Yeah. You're 80, but you're the perfect
age to be in this. Oh, man. You
know, they say if you remember the sixties,
you weren't there. See, how old were you
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in how
you weren't there. How old were you in
'68?
You were 20? 20 ish? In 1968?
Well, in 'sixty three, I graduated high school.
Okay. So, 'sixty eight. So, you were old
enough to know me. Yeah. I was going
to the Fillmore Auditorium when you could see
three bands for $3.
Wow.
I got to meet Bill Graham a couple
of times. Oh, cool. Nice. I happen to
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know that. And then what got you into
playing music and when did you start playing
instruments and making Okay. Well,
the entire time I was growing up in
high school, I weighed about a hundred and
eighteen pounds.
Good. Wet. Yeah. But you're you're up to
one twenty now. Oh, man.
I'm looking forward to you're healthy looking. Yeah.
I'm looking forward to that one twenty five.
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Wasn't all, you know, physically built for sports.
I played a lot of Little League Baseball
when I was growing up,
you know, wasn't on football, basketball. So,
in 1959,
my dad showed me the folk chords on
the guitar, you know.
And, I didn't take it serious until my
senior year of high school. So the earliest
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picture I have of myself where I could
actually do a bar chord, for all you
guitar players out there, was 1962.
Oh, that was That year and next year
you graduated. '63. Yeah. '63.
You didn't go to war or anything like
that? You were spared that whole issue?
Man. I missed it. Yeah. There it is.
I did participate.
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It's a month. In 1969,
I was in Downtown Saigon watching them walk
on the moon. First time in my USO
show.
Woah.
How cool is that? I didn't know. See,
this is about spontaneous questions, Yeah. Let me
tell you. The greatest
audience in the world. He's bummed because he
didn't take enough photographs. Yeah. Yeah. I wish
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he'd have taken more photos. Well, you know,
a lot of people did if you're gonna
have to reach out to them. They were
you know, you had your 18, 19, 20
year old kids, man. Right. And cream was
popular.
Right. And the British Invasion and Jimmy Hendrix.
And Hendrix. Yeah. We'd get out there and
play some of that stuff, and they just
went nuts, man. We we were
gods.
Yeah. We were gods. Yeah. We were good
for you. Good for you. Rodney, what was
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your first instrument? When did you start playing?
Because you play bass now. Bass. With the
Spence Brothers. You started with bass and stuck
with bass. It seemed to come come to
me easier than I I plunk around a
little bit on the piano, but
Alright. Oh, one day, I was rode in
for him and his band when we were
up in Seattle.
He had a bass player that didn't wanna
go to Canada and make $1,800
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a week. He wanted to stay home, get
a new motorcycle for Christmas. Oh. Okay, bro.
So he put the guitar in my hand,
taught me the three basic notes and stuff,
and I kinda went from there. Alright. Hit
hit an e note, hit an a note,
hit a d note, hit a g note.
Okay. You're in the band. Yeah. That's fine.
Two weeks later, they had me in the
studio recording the songs, and I had no
idea what I was doing. Oh. Oh, by
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the way, we're going
in the studio.
What's a studio?
That we've had lots of guests musical guests
on the show, and and we ask all
the musical guests, which,
and most of them 75%
say they do not. But do either of
you read music? No. Check the notes? No.
No. Started to when I was in school,
but I never kept it up. You know?
Yeah. Found it confusing.
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It was easier to, you know, pick up
that little needle and back it up to
the guitar solo again Right. Than learn a
little bit, then pick up that needle back
up. That's how you learned it? About you.
Dude. Yeah. Oh, nice.
I started by just listening to the radio
and finding the notes
to the songs on listening to the songs
on radio. Yeah. Yeah. When I started,
The Ventures
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were my heroes. Absolutely. The Ventures. The Ventures.
Yeah. They're still touring. Are they really? Yeah.
A lot. Last I heard, they were in
Japan. Oh my god. Wow. I used to,
play instruments by ear, but now I use
my hands. Yeah. I was gonna say, doesn't
that hurt the inside or the ear?
What was it like at this point? Then
then you must be a drummer.
(21:01):
Okay. Now I gotta go drummer. What did
the drummer name his two daughters?
Anna one. Anna two. Two.
Okay. That's so old.
So oh, Gigi, you take a rassum so
Okay. You don't wanna know what it was
like growing up? No. We they've he said
he was a hundred and fifteen pounds. Okay.
Yeah. Oh, he's a hundred and twenty.
Yeah. Exactly. Now do you both sing?
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In the shower?
I really get a good cone in there,
you know, when I have the door closed.
Yeah. Well But, the cats and the dogs
outside don't well, I'm the lead singer, and
he sings when he's drunk. Oh, well, let's
get him apple juice.
Apple
this ain't apple juice. No. I guess it's
an apple. Get some real apple juice there.
Yeah. Who were your early influences for your
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for your music? You you were like your
original music. Right? That's your music. Myself. Like
I said, the Ventures. Ventures. Yeah. In the
early yeah. They had great vocals. Oh, man.
He could, take that
Stratocaster
Jazzmaster and
Stratocaster. Oh, really? Surf music. Yeah. Yeah. The
inventors were surf music kind of. Who's our
surfbob? The Shark Tank. The local.
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Oh, yeah. Ernie boys. Yeah. Ernie. Ernie. The
Ernie boys. Good. Yeah.
They always were an influence, you know, miseralouge.
So
oh. Oh, beautiful, man. Yeah. Oh, nice. Nice.
When did you note. When did you form
your first band, husband? Oh, boy.
Myself?
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It was called Jamie
and the Aristocrats.
We had a lady Jamie and the She
was the singer? That was the girl. Yeah.
Jamie was the girl. Oh, no, man. That
was maybe Oh, that was in the sixties.
Yeah. '64.
And why aristocrats?
For giggles?
Class. The aristocat cats
The aristocats.
That's pretty good.
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No. They
had a little, like, a top hat and
a cane kind of a background thing on
it. Yeah. They Aristocrats.
Yeah. They were just the kratts. It just
sounded, classic. You know? Yeah. Right. At that
time.
How long did that band last? Mhmm.
Well, until the lead the lady lead singer
slapped me.
Do you hear it? Oh, just a couple
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years. Just a couple years. If that. Oh,
yeah. Then when was it after that one?
Let's see. Jeez.
Was it, Black Sheep or the No.
Blind Lemon Blues Band. No. There was another
one before that. We had the
Blind Lemon. Knee high Beetle Boots, the rock
company. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah
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hey, man. We got to no one there.
He said, well, you wanna come over? And
it ended up being the Union
Rock Company.
The Union Rock? Not bad. No. Were you
Rod, you were in the same band? No.
No. I didn't, start playing music with him
till 1983.
Okay. So when did the okay. So that's
when he turned down 1,800 a week? Is
that what I heard right? No. The bass
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player. The bass player. Oh, yeah. And the
one that was working with him and Oh,
yeah. That's why you were the the bass
player. Yeah. I see.
So that was good that was good money
back then. Oh, yeah, man. We've been doing
it ever since. Right on. Well, you guys
are one of the most iconic,
bands in our area. We appreciate you so
much, and I gotta tell the story off
script.
And Gigi doesn't even know about this. We
(24:13):
go over our script the night before. But
I was at the Bodacious Blues
four or five years ago. Hot day, right,
at the Bodacious. You guys were playing in
that little tent.
You have your turtle?
Still got the turtle. I might have had
the turtle that day. And I'm playing and,
Rodney changed my life. He changed my life
(24:34):
because we listened to you. I was out
there dancing or stumbling around. Is that the
time I gave you bail money? Do you
know what? In a way, this is about
that because I dropped a dollar. I think
maybe $2 into the tip jar. You looked
down at it and you said, hey. You've
been really enjoying our music. Is that all
we're worth to you? You sent this to
me, and I it made me feel guilty.
And you know what? Ever since that day,
I'm always now I at least $5 bill.
(24:56):
Yeah. Never less than $5 bill. I never
said that to you. You did? You did?
You said it's I must have been joking
with you. I wouldn't do that. Because no.
It was it was it was one of
those things that hit me. And I went,
oh my god. I guess these guys, they're
out here on the heat. They're out there
week after week, and I'm giving them a
dollar too. And, hey, you guys are worth
the least of 5. So I switched right
then, and I still carry that with me
today. Now a $5 bill today is like
(25:18):
a Yeah. Oh, yeah. A day. Rodney still
has that $1 bill too. Troy has my
50¢ piece. But I had to I had
to tell that story. I was thinking about
it. I didn't think I'm saying that. Now
Yes. Maybe I do. What is a what
is a pirate's favorite instrument?
Guitar. Guitar. Guitar. And we just had the
the festival here this last week, the pirate
(25:40):
festival. And I just saw a video of
you and up on the stage with,
Frank Hernandez. Frank Hernandez. You're up there having
a ball. Oh, man. We rocked. We rocked.
It was so hot though. Right? It was
Well, the first day it was. Yeah. Today
and Saturday. Sunday was nice. Right. Sunday was
nice. Yeah. Oh, so you were on Sunday?
Because we saw Freddie Hernandez on Saturday.
(26:02):
No. Friday. Was it Friday? It was Friday
and it was so hot. Yeah. We only
It was brutal. And What the heck? Now
we're back to fog.
Yeah. Now we're back to the fog, which
I think I I don't know how the
vendors did. I hope they did well and
Yeah. Oh, I was surprised because we're sitting
out in the audience watching him do his
show, and all of a sudden, he says,
hey, hey, everybody. Give a big hand for
Troy Smith. Come on out and play some
(26:22):
guitar. Wow. How cool is that? Up there
and the, we,
we had a good time. We were rocking.
Man, you, you have the look. You got
the swagger. You got everything. Yep. Yep. Troy.
Absolutely. Keep going. Keep going. Everybody got Or
you should say you should say quit it
some more.
Now this is recorded, you know, I could
take this song with me. Right? Right. I've
listened to this over and over. You surely
(26:43):
absolutely can. What's your,
what's your favorite venue to play here in
town when you're playing out on the on
in our region, I should say. Anybody that
will hire us. Anybody that will hire us?
You got
we play the Checo Brewery a lot. Nice
big stage, nice big Big stage. Nice. Nice.
Nice. Nice.
Nice. Nice people. Yeah. Yeah. We like Alex.
Yeah. You sometimes have a smaller band, sometimes
(27:04):
a bigger band Mhmm. Depending on, I don't
know, the venue, I guess. But who are
your bandmates? What are the names? Yeah. We
have Jim Newman. Yep. Hey, Jim. What's going
on, man? He's on keyboards. Mhmm.
We have a fellow by the name of
Jeff Holloway. He's the harmonica player. Yeah. Heart
guy. Lives up in Gold Beach. Good guy.
Oh, yeah. And let's see,
Doctor d. Doctor d. Now is he Doctor
(27:26):
d. How is he doing? Good. He's doing
really well. He's had a little situation. Yeah.
He's
home now and recovering from his surgery. So
For those who don't know, doctor d went
to, some,
triple bypass surgery. Wow. Yeah. Wow. A number
of weeks ago. He's home. Good. Yep. Super
nice guys. And his wife is tired of
him already.
(27:47):
We'll just send him back to work. So
he's not running the automotive, he's not working
over here at his at his shop. Doctor
d's automotive. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. He's the one
that keeps the the van on the road
and all the equipment and stuff. So he's
out indefinitely
for a while. Oh, no. We're just, we
canceled what we have left for the rest
of the year until he recovers. Yeah. Alright.
Kinda have a good time. Working with a
(28:07):
new drummer is fine and all, but when
you're doing original music, nobody knows the difference
because Right.
It's all original. But,
the guy we're working with is really good,
but it's like going into battle with an
untested weapon sometimes. I got some gigs over
here that's really important. Yeah. Yeah. I want
the I want the whole structure to be
there. Right. Okay. We've we got a break
in a minute and a half for our
(28:28):
mid break show. We're already halfway through the
show. Show. It's amazing how Is the bar
open? Yeah.
Misty Mountain was closed today, by the way.
Oh, they were? Misty Mountain's closed. They were
their doors were shut. Both of you some
of your best memories, do you have any
incredible memories either way back in the day
or the memories that are up here, with
people in this area of one of your
favorite memories,
(28:48):
stories you wanna tell? In this area? Yeah.
Why not?
Or another if that's faster.
Nope. Can't say we got a thing. But
you played with some pretty big big acts.
Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah. He toured,
with Blue Cheer for a while. Blue Cheer,
which had the couple of big hits. Right?
(29:09):
Yeah. Everybody Ain't no cure for the summertime?
No cure for the summertime. That was what?
Jimmy Cochran tune? Eddie Cochran. Eddie Cochran. Eddie
Cochran. Eddie Cochran. Yeah.
And you guys did that. But, yeah. They
didn't they get in the Guinness Book of
World Records for being
or coining the phrase heavy metal. Yeah. Wow.
There's a, Rolling Stone history Rolling Stone, the
(29:30):
big book, the history of, rock and roll.
You open up the first page where they
have an editor's note. Okay. The, the editor
says something credits blue cheer,
for starting heavy metal. Heavy metal music. And
then, you have all kinds of people jump
on you, man, because it's Black Sabbath, you
know? I thought it was Black Sabbath. Right.
Lose a blue cheer. Yeah. Yeah. I used
(29:52):
to do my laundry with you guys. That
was big, big okay. How about are there
any regrets that you made? No? She's saying,
nope. She's saying yep. Come on. Oh, he
said regrets. Hold on. I got a request.
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(31:18):
and yours truly thank you so much. Alright,
doc. Get back to what we Yeah. So
you were asking any regrets, and he knew
some right away. Yes. Yeah. It's right here.
Okay. When I was with cheer, Blue Cheer,
we were in Oakland, California at Fantasy Records,
Fantasy Studios,
and, we were cutting some demos.
So, I didn't have anything to do, and
(31:40):
I had to use the men's room. So
I'm in the men's room doing what men
do in the men's room. And this What
do they do? Back back then. Back then.
Yeah.
So,
I'm standing at the urinal and this little
short cowboy walks in with a button down,
Cowboy shirt. Cowboy shirt and dusty old,
(32:00):
boot 10 year old cowboy boots that stands
next to me. And, we do our thing.
But just before I went to the men's
room, I walked down the end of the
hall,
and I looked inside one of the doors
to the recording studio, and there was every
kind of imaginable
combination of guitar and amplifier
you could think of in a long
(32:21):
road down at the end of the hall
where a drum set was set up in
a gazebo.
Wow. And I looked up and it said
John Fogerty.
Oh. And I'm going, wow. Wow. Wow.
And I'm in the men's room and I
just saw this and I'm going in my
mind, wow. Wow. John. Wow. Wow. This little
cowboy walks upstairs right next to me. I'm
going, wow. Wow.
(32:42):
You know?
And, you know, I'm not gonna start opportunity.
That was John Fogerty? I'm not gonna start
up a conversation in the men's room where
we're doing men's room business, and I didn't
know who it was. Yeah. It was John
Fogerty. It was John Fogerty. And I had
this going in my mind, and all I
had to do was turn it on. Just
say, hey. Hey. You know what I just
saw, man? But you would've turned and you
would've leaked all of it. I mean, that's
(33:04):
It might've been his best solo ever. Yeah.
Because I get recognize him,
and I was gonna say, gosh. You just
see you were stuttering. I just saw, man.
I was
I got a hand you know, he would've
say, well, come on. Come on in and
play something. Yeah. Let's go take a look.
And I would've said, no. No. We can't
go in there, man. And, you know, it
went John Ford. You turn and wash your
(33:24):
hands and walk out. Yeah. The very You
better walk your hands. I didn't realize later.
Oh,
I was drunk. Fogarty.
The very first time I ever saw a
live band, some friends of mine took me
to UC Davis Alright, Rod. To this band
k. That was, playing in the auditorium there.
We're sitting against the back wall and then
watching these guys. K. It was my first
(33:45):
time ever seeing live music.
Come to find out later on, it was
a band called the Gollywags.
The I've heard the Gollywags. Yeah. They were
Creedence Clearwater. Creedence Clearwater. Yes. Before they changed
their name to Creedence Clearwater. Oh. They're Bible.
Wow. And a year
long time later, I figured out, oh, oh,
god. I saw I saw them and didn't
know who they were at that time, you
know. My, my girlfriend at the time and
(34:06):
her girlfriend,
Oh, he went to high school with Timothy
b Schmidt for the Eagles. Eagles. Base player
for the Eagles. Yeah. We're both on surf
bands together. Oh.
But,
before they were Credence, golliwogs, they would follow
the circuit that our band played in.
And, my girlfriend and a couple of her
girlfriends went out to see the golliwogs
(34:27):
at one of these venues, and they ended
up going to an after hours party. Right?
I love it. Oh, yeah, man. We got
an album coming out here in in a
month or two, and the girl's going, yeah.
Yeah. Heard that before.
And it was Krigen's crew. Wow. Wow. That
is really cool. Wow. Okay.
What are you guys always getting better now?
You're gonna be 80? Yeah. 80 in September.
(34:49):
80 in September? Your six years younger?
I'll be 74 in October. Okay. So are
you guys getting better as we get age?
Or do you feel like you're getting better?
We're not getting any worse. Not getting any
worse. Right on. That's a good way to
look at it. Right on.
And and you play both covers and originals.
We know that. Yeah. So how long you
been writing your own? Are you were you
(35:09):
mainly the writer? Do you write Ronnie? Yeah?
No. Troy does most all the writing. But
he he, you know, wouldn't be the same
without that bass partner Ronnie puts in. Right.
But, when we moved when I moved from,
Sacramento up to Washington,
the band that I put together then, I
said, no, man. You know, you never You've
been you've been playing covers all your life.
How are you gonna get in here if
you don't? Where you gonna get in here?
(35:30):
They're all their original music is the covers
you're playing. Right. From there. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
That's when we started right now. I just
told them, you know, man, we're gonna do
all original because we're artists. Right. Are you
a poet?
And don't know it. And don't know it.
Okay. Yeah.
Are we gonna finish with your originals? We
know your originals. They're great. I mean, we
danced to them. They're they're just part of
(35:51):
your whole So the originals, you do all
the music anthem and the words? Yeah. Mhmm.
Sitting in my bedroom, it was late one
night, staring out the window at the broad
daylight. Come on, knock on my back door.
That loving little lady's coming back for more.
Oh. She said, get up. Get out of
that bed. It's a beautiful day and you
ain't dead.
Oh, my Get up. Baby, take me out
(36:12):
tonight. I wanna party till the moon is
bright. Oh, my goodness. I love it. I
absolutely love it.
So you're gonna where do you, any you're
you're canceled for the rest of the year
because doctor
E is down. So Hiatus. Alright. And Right.
Where do you see yourself then next year
or in two years? What do you guys
wanna be? Well, actually, I do a, solo.
(36:33):
Where I play lead guitar to,
prerecorded
band tracks, full band, and I play lead
guitar over them through a PA system. And
I will be
at the,
Umbrella. Umbrella.
Umbrella?
Yeah. It's a new winery down around Ocean
View. Umbrillas.
Oh, wait a minute. Would that
that florist?
(36:54):
Florist or something or Pacific florist. Pacific florist.
Yeah. Yeah. Right. Okay. They're having entertainment there.
Now Chris Capitano played there last and it
went over really well. We gotta go. And
is there wine there? Is that the Yes.
Their gig? Wine? I I do believe so.
Sneak in bottles of
them. Okay. Do you have any plans or
you just wherever he goes, you go?
(37:16):
It's his it's his solo, so you're not
doing anything. Right? I'm his roadie.
He's my sound tech, my roadie. Right on.
Are you guys available for hire? Let's say,
do two like, you're gonna be doing today,
the two. Of course. Can you do the
Eich sets at a wedding or whatever?
Before. Yeah. Sure. Just a park. How do
they get a hold of you to book
them? Get a hold of us on the
(37:37):
Facebook.
Troy Spence Brothers, s p e n c
e. Right? Mhmm. Brothers. Troy Spence and Rodney.
Do you have an email you wanna
telephone number? Telephone number. Yeah. Okay. Write it
down. Let me wait. Hold on. I got
it. Pen. I'll do this. Do it twice.
Okay. Hit us with your phone number. How
to get a hold of Troy Spence
(37:57):
directly. 360360.
535
4066.
Alright.
(360)
535-4066.
And
you're not playing any more gigs because doctor
d's down. Yeah. If something really
important comes up and there's a function that
somebody wants to have a band that's, you
(38:18):
know,
fiftieth birthday or wedding or something like that,
we can get a We do have a
replacement drummer that could Okay. And Jem's playing
the piano. Oh, yeah. Playing the synthesizer. So
he's And Jeff on the harmonica. He's performing
the harmonica. And Jeff is spelled g e
o f f. Right? Yeah. Okay. I've announced
it different. G o what?
G o f. G o f. G o
f. G o f. Our player. G o
(38:39):
f. Okay. So we got your phone number.
We got your, email. We'll come back to
that in a little bit. But, doc Yeah.
Is it time? Yes. It's time. It's time.
We are gonna hear you guys. To treat
our ears. To treat our ears and the
listeners, What are you gonna play for us?
Well, I'm gonna do some strumming here while
Rodney,
picks up the bass. Okay. Let's let's hear,
Troyce. Let's start.
(39:47):
Alright.
Okay.
Rod is now booked. Change.
(40:24):
Come a little closer and,
listen to me.
This happened back in
'seventy three.
Playing a rock and roll in a rock
and roll band. I was playing rock and
roll all across this land.
Playing in a tavern in, Downtown Kent.
(40:45):
Through the front door held leather for vent.
Tequila mamas
was their name, and a skinning musician's
was their game.
(41:05):
Well, a bottle in one hand and a
lime in the other.
I could tell this night was gonna be
like no other.
Walked up the stage and they turned to
spit.
I'm not gonna sing the next line because
it's just not fit.
Little baby.
(41:51):
Woah.
Alright.
Okay. Now what was that what was that
little ditty called? He just wrote it. He
just did it on the spot.
Doing called Tequila Mamas. True story. Tequila Mamas.
Yeah. I was playing, with the band. In
Downtown Kent. Yeah. In Kent, Washington. And to
the front door, it came these three ladies
at the bottom. Well, see, in up there,
(42:12):
you bring your own liquor. It was a
BYOB thing. Yeah. Alright. In that state, then
you buy your, your, mix reserves stuff. Right.
And they had a big old bottle of
tequila, Jack. Not Jack. Tequila. With some of
them. They were trying to do anything they
could do to make the band mess up.
Yeah. Woah.
And I mean any they were doing anything
they could do to
(42:33):
They
were just doing. They weren't lifting up part
of their clothes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They
Kidding.
Clashed this a couple of times. Oh, that's
lucky you. And, of course, I forgot what
I was doing. It did totally work. Come
on now. I'm a rockstar.
You know? So the line goes, I they
brought your tequila, but you had the lime
or they brought the lime stew?
Yeah. They brought the lime. Okay.
(42:55):
Wow.
Alright. Well, that is an original one. Okay.
What are we hearing next? What do you
got? Anything else original song for us here
that we're gonna
tear it up with the Spence Brothers, Rodney
and Troy and the KCIWs. Okay.
(45:19):
Oh, well.
What did you call that? Do you think
we should have rehearsed the English version?
Oh, let's not ruin a good thing. I
did good. No. Your music
genre is called blues rock. Is that right?
Yes. And what you how did you know?
I was gonna ask that. No. You were
not. I was gonna ask this. Really? You
drunk it last night?
I mean, are you more bluesy
(45:41):
rock? I mean, yeah. Play it all. Right?
Fifty fifty. Yeah.
Fifty fifty. Fifty fifty. I wanna do that.
Sixty forty.
What a good day. I went into the
eighty eight. Bar one time. No. It's four
20. There were three I'll be right back.
I went to a bar once there were
three dividers. One was rock, one was country,
and one was blues. Oh, really? Well, no.
I'm joking.
(46:03):
I'm interested in seeing that on the way
out of the night. He totally listened to
your own story. Hey. Do you know why
Keith Richards do you know why Keith Richards
owns three thousand guitars? Why? Because he buys
one every year.
He
does.
He does.
He's an old guy. He's an old
He's job security.
(46:24):
Yeah. Now do you have another? Yeah. We
have one more and then we'll break through.
We have our last few minutes here with
our our joke time. Another fantastic one. The
Spence Brothers in the case interview. Yes. Right.
Studio? I'm feeling it. You know, when I
was a little boy,
my daddy, he said to me,
(46:47):
he said, son, if you won't be popular,
then the guitar's
for thee.
You know, it's got six strings,
and it tunes right here.
Now here's an e chord, son.
(47:07):
Practice
about a year.
Well, he taught me my A, Bs and
Cs.
He says it goes like this.
You know, son, there's a lot of pretty
girls out there that are dying
to be kissed.
You know I'm rocking. Yeah.
(47:32):
Rocking my life away.
You know this rock and roll sensation.
You know
here to stay.
(47:54):
So,
I got me some records.
I put them on my stereo.
You know, I tuned up my guitar.
Man, I was raring to go.
I had me some John Lee Hooker.
(48:14):
I had me some Jimmy with a spoon.
You know, know, I love that church where
she said, Daddy, but I'm dying
to sing a flute.
You know I'm rocking.
Rocking
my life away.
(48:58):
You know, it's,
here to stay, baby.
Oh my goodness. The Spence Brothers, Troy and
Mark. Nice. And the KCFW studio. I thought
he was saying, oh, yeah. I bet that
was you then. Right? Oh, did I say
that? I should say that. Huge stop at
(49:18):
the end, but I thought it would
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I thought it was
part of this song.
Rodney,
and and,
Troy. Troy r. No. Come on.
It's Trotney
r. R. Available for hire for for those
of you that might wanna reach out and
have them,
play at your next party or gathering, and
they could be reached at area code (360)
(49:41):
535-4066.
One last time. (360)
535-4066.
Gigi and I will vet and and,
vet them out that they are phenomenal. They
are you guys are nice guys to begin
with. And I Don't don't ruin it. Wait
a minute. Wait a minute. I noticed that
during breaks,
when I've seen you, take breaks, you don't
just disappear. You tend to kind of mingle
(50:03):
with the crowd. Oh, absolutely. I've seen young
gals come up to you and like pour
their hearts out to you during between your
set. I remember one time at Inoteca.
This young gal came up to you and
just you sat there so patiently and held
her hand. She was just telling you her
whole
surprise story. Well, you know, that's why we
do it. Yes. You know, I mean, when
you play music music
(50:24):
is a language
all its own. Right on. You know, you
if you've never heard a song from,
say, Elvis Presley that he put out in
1955
for the first time, you just heard it
yesterday.
That's the amazing thing about
music, you know. If you've never heard it
before, it's brand new. Right. And the nostalgia
it could bring to put you right back
(50:47):
into some Make you happy.
Make you think. Yeah.
The people and Make you wanna, you know,
slap your ex wife.
All those good things. You were laughing, divorce
your kids when I said
Yort and Trodny. Oh, really? So go Troy's
a good artist. He started a comic strip,
and it was about there's two ambitions where
we're broke down in space in their spaceships,
(51:08):
and they were called we just took our
names and spelled them backwards.
So Maybe there were Yeah. It was York.
Something like that. York.
York. That's alright. York. I like that York.
Yeah. Okay. Spaceship band kept breaking down all
the time between the gigs and the things
we write here to get through. Well, you
gotta write that down. Hold on. What is
it? Backwards? Troy and York. Yeah. Okay. But
(51:28):
that's who you've been listening to today.
Yeah. On KCIW,
how how does Robin Williams do it? He's
doing back and that backwards is.
What he used to say, I should say.
Alright, Troy and Rodney. Thank you very much.
On this radio show. Thank you for being
on. We we love your music. Everybody else
(51:49):
does. You are iconic local Oh, really? Legendary
people and,
super, super talented gentlemen. Thank you again for
coming on our show. Gonna do this again
next week. We what? I tell you what
we'll do. Can we just stay over? We
we'll
do this while I get back on every
every six months. Every so come every six
months. Whiskey slipper? Hey. Whiskey six Whiskey slippers.
(52:10):
Hey. It's a new band. A minute. Speaking
of whiskey.
Okay. I got some I have a great
joke of the
I can't find it now.
Hey. I'm no good at math, but I
do know that five out of three people
struggle with numbers.
Yeah. Are we doing fun time corner? Yeah.
Let's do fun time corner. Fun
time corner. Thank you guys for that. Woo
hoo. We got four minutes of jokes here.
(52:30):
I knew he was so misled. Listen.
I'm writing
a book on reverse psychology.
Yep.
So don't buy it.
You get it? I got it. K. It
was it's like almost like my throat. Rodney,
what happens if you don't pay your exorcist?
You get You gotta go back to Klaus.
(52:50):
You get repossessed.
You know, I have a bunch of my
Oldsmobile.
You're,
you're pretty talented, man. You should be on
stage. Oh. The first one out of town.
Can you can't get to the old ones.
Can you sing tenor? Yeah. Tinder 12 miles
from here.
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Alright. What's a good quote, doctor? Give us
some quotes. Your life does not get better
by chance. My boy. It does get better
by choice. It gets better by that's coming
from a doctor. Hey. I'll bet anyone that
I can stop gambling.
That's good. Hey. I don't drink anymore
or any less.
Hey. I'm on the whiskey diet. I've already
(53:33):
lost four days.
That's true. And I had one one time.
We drank two bottles of, a wine called
Night Train. Oh, night train? What happened? Yeah.
Well, we packed up everything we owned, and
we were about 40 miles out of town
before we
realized we weren't driving to Sacramento. Anyways. Seattle.
Oh my god. Worst holdover and went to
(53:53):
sleep at next morning and went back home.
Worst
hangover
ever. God. Hangover ever. We don't do that.
Night train. Oh. Couldn't even write a song
about it. It's funny because I've seen people
on, Facebook
say the same thing about the worst hangover
they ever had over the night train. Oh
my god. Night Train. I thought it was
a fun time. I think it was Nitrol?
(54:14):
Nitrol?
Night train. 99¢
a gallon. Oh my goodness. Okay, Gigi. Give
us some more quotes. Alright. We only got
a few minutes. Not even that. With great
power comes an even greater electric bill.
Not a bad one, actually. I like this
one. I like this one. Support bacteria.
It's the only culture that some people have.
(54:37):
Not bad.
Scientists have recently discovered that protons actually have
mass.
Oh, who knew they were Catholic?
Yeah. That's crazy.
Come to think of it, Moses had the
first tablet
that connected to the cloud.
There you go. One more when the He
had a separation covered.
That's true.
No. We have to stop. Okay. Do I
(54:58):
give my money back to this?
Hey. Listen, everybody. You have been listening to
the Doc and Jock radio variety show on
KCRW
oh, no. Hundred point seven FM in Brookings,
Oregon. Again, we wanna thank Tom Bozak, Grace
Simon, and everyone else and Linda out there
listening to,
this. Thank you so much. If you are
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And now stay tuned for Tony Durso
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Welcome,
everyone.
You have now entered the cosmic radio receptors
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Thank you for tuning into this week's serious
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cohost is, as always, Jacques Kepner. How are
(00:30):
you?
I'm fine.
We were laughing here like crazy. Greetings, everyone.
A big shout out to our sound engineers,
Ray Simon and Tom Bozek, and I think
Michael Gorse is in there back there somewhere
else. Welcome to the Doc and Jacques Radio
Variety Show. I wanna mention that you are
hearing this live show on KCIW in Brookings,
Oregon right now. That said, this very same
(00:50):
show will be syndicated and will be rebroadcast
in exactly one week from now.
And to the large audience down on KZH
96.7
and Eureka and Humboldt
at eight in the morning. And then again,
a few hours later at 1PM on my
old alma mater, KFUG one hundred and one
point one FM in Crescent City, California. So
now you know
(01:11):
this show is growing. And doctor Gigi and
I have got your coasts
covered.
Okay, doc. I have a confession to make.
What?
Last night, while you were asleep,
I had a date secretly.
It was really good.
Yep. Tonight, I think I'll have a fig.
Alright. Before we introduce our super talented and
(01:34):
legendary musical guest today, doctor Gigi and I
were so impressed with last week's guest, Dan
Sprangen,
who amongst many other talents is the executive
director of the Wild Rivers Film Festival taking
place here in Brookings, Oregon
for the next four days. So we invited
him back today for a short cameo appearance
(01:54):
to give us any and all last minute
updates regarding this coastal cultural annual event. Welcome,
Dan. Spring in. Hi, you guys. How are
you? Alright. Now remind our audience what's starting
in Brookings, Oregon
tomorrow, Thursday, August
14.
Yeah. Mhmm. It's the Wild Rivers Film Festival.
(02:14):
So we have,
we have four days of films that are
happening right here in town. So the Redwood
Theater,
the library,
and the Chetco Players Playhouse.
And How many films do you show? We've
got about thirty hours
of original content. So it's really locations?
Yeah. Yeah. Well, actually, two locations at the
(02:35):
Redwood and then one at the library and
one at the Chetco Players Playhouse.
Very cool. Wow. Cool. Works Now what generous
genre?
Zuzhanra.
What is you. What
genre? I thought you were German. Weren't you
German? That's the big French. You grew up
right on the French border. Oh, for no.
That's that's Furman.
Furman instead of German. French and She would've
(02:56):
seen the look she just I didn't know
Furman. She's never heard that. Furman.
No. Okay. I know Spanglish.
Spanglish. It's okay. What was the question?
Since we just had that whole ordeal.
What genre? What kind of Oh, oh, yeah.
So we've got just about everything. We have,
we have feature films. We have documentary features.
(03:17):
We have short documentaries,
short films,
and then everything
from comedy
to horror films,
and a couple really good thrillers
this year. Any animation. I think I asked
you that last week. There's just the one
animation that we have this year, and it's
a short, but it's really worth your time.
A ten minute? Yeah. It's not even ten
(03:37):
minutes. It's, four minutes and fifty one seconds.
It's called COVID dystopia.
COVID. And it's drawn hand drawn by a
Disney,
artist from from Disney. Wow. So every single
frame in four minutes and fifty one seconds
and you have to remember, that's 24 frames
per second.
Every single frame is hand drawn. That's a
(03:59):
lot of drawing. Now these are, you just
said, from Disney. Are any of these local
or regional
films? Do we have any answers? Yeah. Yeah.
There are some from, from Oregon. We've got
Emma Was Here from,
from Medford area.
We've got a couple out of Portland. We
have,
we have a one, it's called the,
(04:22):
the it's called the Salmon Run, and it's
about these three women who come right through
Oregon following the path of the salmon
after they took down the
Klamath,
Klamath Falls, dams? Yeah. The Klamath Falls. When
they took the dams down. Yeah. And there's
this beautiful, beautiful little art piece with these
women,
dancing underneath the Klamath
(04:43):
Bridge, I believe it's called.
But they're suspended in the air, and they're
doing this acrobatic Oh, I see. The ladies
suspended from the air. They did that off
the stages. Yeah. It's really it's really amazing.
Hey. That's 5,760
pictures.
That's a that's a lot of drawing. Doctor
would know that the the gym and the
gym and doctor. Oh, she knows these things.
(05:04):
Uh-huh. Well, I calculated that. People get to
meet the directors and the actors and producers
of these films. They do. Yeah. So, I
mean, you know how tricky it is to
get to Brookings in the first place. So,
so there'll be some films that have the
filmmakers in town and some,
some that won't. But we have, Eve Annenberg
coming in. We have Malin Dominguez. We have,
(05:26):
most of the folks who made the Oregon
films, they'll be in attendance.
So anytime that there's a filmmaker here,
you'll have the opportunity with your VIP pass
to get on the red carpet and take
pictures in front of the step and repeat.
But also,
no matter if you're just a a day
pass holder or a festival pass holder,
there'll be a q and a, question and
answer session, after every film as long as
(05:47):
the filmmaker's present. Oh, very cool. How much
are the tickets? So tickets are $20 for
a day pass. Woah. Good deal. Yeah. Yeah.
You can get twelve hours of watching movies
for $20. I mean There you go. Do
the math on that, doc.
Yeah. She she'll have the calculator out. She's
gonna use German math. 47 per movie.
That's probably pretty close. Yeah. Pretty close. $50
(06:10):
for a festival pass. And if you wanna
roll with all the filmmakers and go to
all the happy hours and all the parties,
a VIP pass is only a $150.
So $150
gets you Four days of day. Every four
days of everything you could imagine. Do they
go to the gate? Where can they get
those to? Right at box office at the
Redwood Theater, or they can go online at
(06:31):
www.
I don't think they say that anymore. Yeah?
Yeah. Sure. Oh, we do. Okay. So www.wildriversfilmfestival.com.
Very cool. Now I a question I wanted
to ask you last week, we've only got
a time for a couple more questions here,
but
who does the vetting for these things? Who
does who are you are you one of
(06:52):
the judges that that takes on do you
get a lot more submissions and you allow
Well movies themselves? Yeah. That's a great question.
But, because Brookings is a boutique festival and
it's, it's pretty new,
only three years old Yeah.
The word really isn't out to all the
filmmakers yet. So what I do is because
(07:13):
I run the Orlando Film Festival. Huge one.
Eight day affair. Right? Yeah. Eight day eight
day festival.
It's been going it's in its twentieth year
right now. I've been the executive director for
eighteen years of that. So yeah. So what
I do is I cherry pick. You know,
I take the films that I like for
my festival and bring them here. Oh, nice.
Yeah. So we have the cherry picking You
(07:34):
do. You have the you have the cream
of the crop. Creme de la creme. That's
so if we love the film, we say,
hey. That's part partially your influencer.
It it it certainly is. But if you
hate it I was just gonna say, we're
gonna blame it on the other as it'll
be if you work Doc.
What?
Doc, pick that one up. I think it's
her work. Break. Wow. Okay. Again, it when
(07:57):
does it happen?
It's August 14 through the seventeenth. So literally,
if you're listening today, being the thirteenth, it
starts show today. Yeah. Starts tomorrow, and it
finishes up on Sunday with an award show
at the Elk's Lodge. And then all of
you people that are hearing this next week,
after this affair has gone off on kzzh
and on kfug,
well, wait till next year. And maybe Who's
(08:18):
there? Maybe you could reach out to Dan
Springen and find out if, he might be
able to bring a festival to your area.
Does Eureka have one? I don't know. I'd
love to. Yeah. That's that's one of the
things and I'll be I'll be quick. I
know you got a big show coming up.
Is there are so many underserved
areas when it comes to independent cinema.
Everybody has a place to go and watch
(08:39):
Hulk nine or Spider Man 14. That's Multiplex.
Yeah. But
there aren't many places that you can go
and watch independent cinema. And when I say
independent, I mean films that are made
independent of the Hollywood system and usually made
for between 100,000 and, let's say, a million,
million 2, somewhere in that ballpark.
But these stories are amazing, and they just
(09:02):
don't get the mainstream play, but they do
at film festivals.
So if you're listening out there and you
want a film festival in your area,
just, you know, track me down or track
down anybody
on board for Wild Rivers Film Festival. Wild
Rivers,
very cool. 05/2003. Right? It's a nonprofit.
So people could reach out to you. If
there are angels out there that would like
to donate to a fantastic good cause and
(09:23):
a great festival, then you could reach out
to, the Wild Rivers, film festival. Yeah. We
have a sponsor and a donate page. So
if you have a company, you could sponsor,
and we'll put your name up in lights.
Right on.
And if you are just a angel who
wants to help young
filmmakers,
get a leg up and and help a
festival that helps them,
(09:44):
you can you can also do that on
the website. Wow. Worth a call. Well, now
we know. And we appreciate it that you
came back on for this little cameo appearance.
We wish you luck. We will see you
around.
We'll see you at the festival.
And I will give this
Troy Spence just gave me one of his
CDs. He gave me four of them. So
(10:05):
may I? Absolutely. He had this.
There's a cover charge for them.
I'll I'll trade you a day pass. How's
that? I'll trade you a day pass. I
can't wait to answer that. Thank you guys
so much. Thank you so much. Dan Springen,
thank you for coming in. Appreciate it, and
have a good good I know you're busy,
busy, busy. So get out there and have
fun. And we will see you next week
in the in the in the as a
(10:26):
headliner doing what these gentlemen are doing today.
The musician. As a musician. Can't wait. Right?
Got to play with the elastic. Very exciting.
A lot of fun. Yep. Okay. That's great.
Thank you very much. Appreciate it. And there
we go, folks. Now you know.
Alright. You're tuned into the syndicated community radio
station at KCIW,
KFUG, and KZZH. And it's that time to
(10:47):
introduce our headliners.
Now these two guys,
these two brothers that are sitting across from
us have been a source of fun and
inspiration and great bluesy
rock music ever since I arrived on the
scene five years ago and I know you've
been doing a lot
longer than that.
Not only are they incredibly talented,
(11:10):
but they're genuinely good,
super friendly, very approachable,
and polished entertainers. So without any extra verbiage
from me, doctor Gigi and I wish to
welcome Troy and Rodney Spence to the Doc
and Shock Radio Variety Show. Welcome to Spence
Brothers. Alright. Good. Thank you very much. Thank
you. I just wanna in. Yeah. I just
wanna add that, Troy Spence is single.
(11:32):
Wait a minute. I'm looking. Oh oh, okay.
And I'm looking. Rodney. Rodney, is that true?
Because I kinda know somebody else. I I
don't know him. Yeah. Yeah. Never met him
before.
What am I Is he the older? He's
the older brother who who's alright. Well, wonderful.
Gigi, lead off and ask our very special
guest. What should I have? Well, long overdue.
(11:53):
You guys have been you've been on our
radar for so long, and thank you for
finally coming in tonight. Oh, thank you for
making this show what it is. Alright. So
where were you brothers born and raised?
Sacramento, California. Both of you? Yes. Mhmm. What
is the age difference?
Take it?
The older guy was first. Yeah. What's the
age difference?
Six years. Oh. Not
too bad. All four brothers were six years
(12:15):
apart. So you had no Oldest and youngest?
Mhmm. Yeah. Oh. Wow. I don't know if
they worked it out that way or it
just happened that way. Now the oldest was
Bill, was it? Mhmm. Yeah. Bill bill is
passed. Okay. Yes. Correct.
And Bill I I got the inside scoop
on the age difference from my mom that
I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna let that cat out of
(12:35):
the bag.
Alright. Okay. But and then the baby is
not you, Rodney? You No. It's, Dave. Dave.
David. Yeah. Dave lives in this Brookings in
the Yeah. He's he's actually the one that,
got us to move down here. We were
living up in Seattle for thirty three, thirty
four years. Woah.
And, he called Troy one day. He says,
hey. You know that RV? It's next to
me over there. He says, yeah. They're selling
(12:56):
it. Do you want it? And he says,
yeah. Absolutely. So that's what got him down
here. Then they called me There's another one.
Four or five months later
and said, hey. You know that RV? It's
in between me and Troy. I said, it's
for sale. Do you want it? Yeah.
And boom. So here we are. And now
you live in Harbor, Brookins? We're at Harbor
Harbor. Alright. Cool. Harbor. Harbor. Right above the
marina there. Very cool. Right above the marina.
(13:17):
Cool. No. The majority of the lot was
spent then in Seattle.
Yeah. So Rodney and his family moved up,
to,
well, it's
A little town called Belfair, Washington out of,
the Bremerton area. Yeah. The Puget Sound Naval
Ship. I moved up there in '77. Troy
came up in '79. He was still rocking
down in Hollywood. Yeah. You guys are following
(13:39):
each other, Then I can't get rid of
it
keeps coming back.
It's your fault for telling me your address.
I'm all damn it.
But it's like it's like the what did
they the joke that I started out with
nothing,
and I still have most of the left.
Yeah. There we go.
Boy, they say You you moved here when?
(13:59):
In 02/2011.
02/2011?
When they have the,
also the tsunami.
Oh, yeah. He was down here. He said
he was standing out here watching boats flow
out the river out the sea before I
come down here. Oh, wow. Standing above. And
I've been here all this time, and they
didn't have another salami. I'm really bummed out,
you know? It was the other day, the
last couple weeks ago. Alright. That one. Yeah.
(14:20):
Raised to a 12 inch. Yeah. But across
the city, it hit pretty hard. Yeah. Yeah.
It crossed the city pretty hard. I mean,
it broke a couple of wires and then
I saw it. They were in the wrong
place. Out the entire I hung up that,
and one of them broke over my jacket.
Went in the water and shorted out the
entire harbor because one of their, main outlets
Yeah. Broke off. And not from the tsunami
or the earthquake. It was from a guy
(14:42):
leaving his boat. He dragged his one one
rope too far, and it hit the thing
and pulled it right out. So We learned
from this timing. And is this your final
stop, do you think? Or are you gonna
be On the rodeo. Oh, yeah. Yeah? I
mean, there's not a better place in the
world to spend, the rest of my days.
Yeah. And I'll be 80 in September. Woah.
Oh, I have a party.
(15:03):
What what days? It's September when?
September 3. September 3. So we hope it's
a Friday, Saturday, maybe a Sunday? Tuesday. It's
a Tuesday. Oh, darn it. But, there,
We'll have a party. There's a, a band
playing later on that month at the Checo
Brewery.
And a lady friend of ours is just
our number one fan. She's gonna throw a
party for me. Wow. Nice. How cool. Do
(15:23):
you know, Luisa? You wanna give a shout?
Yeah. Lisa Lapri. Yeah. Oh, Lisa Lapri. Yeah.
We know, Luisa. Hey. It's a Wednesday.
It's a Wednesday. She looked at that doctor
looking up. She's let's go through a Sunday.
To use my phone for something. Wow. Well,
I'm gonna start on a Wednesday and go
until
Yeah. For an account. Great idea. There's nothing
else for that. So yeah. We have been
(15:44):
following you, for a long time,
even before I I met Gigi. What is
your Texas connection? Is there just you, Rodney?
Me? Yeah.
The woman I've been Alright. Dating for the
past twelve years. Cool.
Jesus. Texas. Do you wanna give a shout
out to anybody? Yeah. My girl, Lynn. Lynn.
Hey, Lynn. How's it going? We've known each
(16:05):
other since 1965.
Oh, you were, like, one? And now?
We're both on the same high school page.
Wow. That's how we found each other. You
say, hey, you remember me? I says, of
course I remember you. Not. So, we've been
going back and forth from Texas to here
for twelve years. So we're in the process
of eliminating the property in Texas and maybe
(16:27):
maybe making this our permanent. Oh, very nice.
Where in Texas?
Little town called Sheridan. It's between
Austin and Houston.
Oh, okay. And Victoria is down at the
bottom. It's like right in the middle of
that little triangle. Very cool. Yeah. Tell them
about your daughter.
Yeah. I was gonna say, do you have
kids? Yeah. She's in she lives in Abilene.
She's been there for a long time. In
(16:48):
Abilene? More Texas stuff. Now how about you,
Troy? You got kids down in the Bay
Area or in the Not that I know
of.
None's none's got a hold of it yet.
That was a 23 and medium. Right. I
get a lot of partying in the sixties.
So Yeah. You're 80, but you're the perfect
age to be in this. Oh, man. You
know, they say if you remember the sixties,
you weren't there. See, how old were you
(17:09):
in how
you weren't there. How old were you in
'68?
You were 20? 20 ish? In 1968?
Well, in 'sixty three, I graduated high school.
Okay. So, 'sixty eight. So, you were old
enough to know me. Yeah. I was going
to the Fillmore Auditorium when you could see
three bands for $3.
Wow.
I got to meet Bill Graham a couple
of times. Oh, cool. Nice. I happen to
(17:30):
know that. And then what got you into
playing music and when did you start playing
instruments and making Okay. Well,
the entire time I was growing up in
high school, I weighed about a hundred and
eighteen pounds.
Good. Wet. Yeah. But you're you're up to
one twenty now. Oh, man.
I'm looking forward to you're healthy looking. Yeah.
I'm looking forward to that one twenty five.
(17:53):
Wasn't all, you know, physically built for sports.
I played a lot of Little League Baseball
when I was growing up,
you know, wasn't on football, basketball. So,
in 1959,
my dad showed me the folk chords on
the guitar, you know.
And, I didn't take it serious until my
senior year of high school. So the earliest
(18:15):
picture I have of myself where I could
actually do a bar chord, for all you
guitar players out there, was 1962.
Oh, that was That year and next year
you graduated. '63. Yeah. '63.
You didn't go to war or anything like
that? You were spared that whole issue?
Man. I missed it. Yeah. There it is.
I did participate.
(18:35):
It's a month. In 1969,
I was in Downtown Saigon watching them walk
on the moon. First time in my USO
show.
Woah.
How cool is that? I didn't know. See,
this is about spontaneous questions, Yeah. Let me
tell you. The greatest
audience in the world. He's bummed because he
didn't take enough photographs. Yeah. Yeah. I wish
(18:56):
he'd have taken more photos. Well, you know,
a lot of people did if you're gonna
have to reach out to them. They were
you know, you had your 18, 19, 20
year old kids, man. Right. And cream was
popular.
Right. And the British Invasion and Jimmy Hendrix.
And Hendrix. Yeah. We'd get out there and
play some of that stuff, and they just
went nuts, man. We we were
gods.
Yeah. We were gods. Yeah. We were good
for you. Good for you. Rodney, what was
(19:17):
your first instrument? When did you start playing?
Because you play bass now. Bass. With the
Spence Brothers. You started with bass and stuck
with bass. It seemed to come come to
me easier than I I plunk around a
little bit on the piano, but
Alright. Oh, one day, I was rode in
for him and his band when we were
up in Seattle.
He had a bass player that didn't wanna
go to Canada and make $1,800
(19:38):
a week. He wanted to stay home, get
a new motorcycle for Christmas. Oh. Okay, bro.
So he put the guitar in my hand,
taught me the three basic notes and stuff,
and I kinda went from there. Alright. Hit
hit an e note, hit an a note,
hit a d note, hit a g note.
Okay. You're in the band. Yeah. That's fine.
Two weeks later, they had me in the
studio recording the songs, and I had no
idea what I was doing. Oh. Oh, by
(19:58):
the way, we're going
in the studio.
What's a studio?
That we've had lots of guests musical guests
on the show, and and we ask all
the musical guests, which,
and most of them 75%
say they do not. But do either of
you read music? No. Check the notes? No.
No. Started to when I was in school,
but I never kept it up. You know?
Yeah. Found it confusing.
(20:20):
It was easier to, you know, pick up
that little needle and back it up to
the guitar solo again Right. Than learn a
little bit, then pick up that needle back
up. That's how you learned it? About you.
Dude. Yeah. Oh, nice.
I started by just listening to the radio
and finding the notes
to the songs on listening to the songs
on radio. Yeah. Yeah. When I started,
The Ventures
(20:41):
were my heroes. Absolutely. The Ventures. The Ventures.
Yeah. They're still touring. Are they really? Yeah.
A lot. Last I heard, they were in
Japan. Oh my god. Wow. I used to,
play instruments by ear, but now I use
my hands. Yeah. I was gonna say, doesn't
that hurt the inside or the ear?
What was it like at this point? Then
then you must be a drummer.
(21:01):
Okay. Now I gotta go drummer. What did
the drummer name his two daughters?
Anna one. Anna two. Two.
Okay. That's so old.
So oh, Gigi, you take a rassum so
Okay. You don't wanna know what it was
like growing up? No. We they've he said
he was a hundred and fifteen pounds. Okay.
Yeah. Oh, he's a hundred and twenty.
Yeah. Exactly. Now do you both sing?
(21:23):
In the shower?
I really get a good cone in there,
you know, when I have the door closed.
Yeah. Well But, the cats and the dogs
outside don't well, I'm the lead singer, and
he sings when he's drunk. Oh, well, let's
get him apple juice.
Apple
this ain't apple juice. No. I guess it's
an apple. Get some real apple juice there.
Yeah. Who were your early influences for your
(21:45):
for your music? You you were like your
original music. Right? That's your music. Myself. Like
I said, the Ventures. Ventures. Yeah. In the
early yeah. They had great vocals. Oh, man.
He could, take that
Stratocaster
Jazzmaster and
Stratocaster. Oh, really? Surf music. Yeah. Yeah. The
inventors were surf music kind of. Who's our
surfbob? The Shark Tank. The local.
(22:06):
Oh, yeah. Ernie boys. Yeah. Ernie. Ernie. The
Ernie boys. Good. Yeah.
They always were an influence, you know, miseralouge.
So
oh. Oh, beautiful, man. Yeah. Oh, nice. Nice.
When did you note. When did you form
your first band, husband? Oh, boy.
Myself?
(22:27):
It was called Jamie
and the Aristocrats.
We had a lady Jamie and the She
was the singer? That was the girl. Yeah.
Jamie was the girl. Oh, no, man. That
was maybe Oh, that was in the sixties.
Yeah. '64.
And why aristocrats?
For giggles?
Class. The aristocat cats
The aristocats.
That's pretty good.
(22:48):
No. They
had a little, like, a top hat and
a cane kind of a background thing on
it. Yeah. They Aristocrats.
Yeah. They were just the kratts. It just
sounded, classic. You know? Yeah. Right. At that
time.
How long did that band last? Mhmm.
Well, until the lead the lady lead singer
slapped me.
Do you hear it? Oh, just a couple
(23:09):
years. Just a couple years. If that. Oh,
yeah. Then when was it after that one?
Let's see. Jeez.
Was it, Black Sheep or the No.
Blind Lemon Blues Band. No. There was another
one before that. We had the
Blind Lemon. Knee high Beetle Boots, the rock
company. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah
(23:32):
hey, man. We got to no one there.
He said, well, you wanna come over? And
it ended up being the Union
Rock Company.
The Union Rock? Not bad. No. Were you
Rod, you were in the same band? No.
No. I didn't, start playing music with him
till 1983.
Okay. So when did the okay. So that's
when he turned down 1,800 a week? Is
that what I heard right? No. The bass
(23:52):
player. The bass player. Oh, yeah. And the
one that was working with him and Oh,
yeah. That's why you were the the bass
player. Yeah. I see.
So that was good that was good money
back then. Oh, yeah, man. We've been doing
it ever since. Right on. Well, you guys
are one of the most iconic,
bands in our area. We appreciate you so
much, and I gotta tell the story off
script.
And Gigi doesn't even know about this. We
(24:13):
go over our script the night before. But
I was at the Bodacious Blues
four or five years ago. Hot day, right,
at the Bodacious. You guys were playing in
that little tent.
You have your turtle?
Still got the turtle. I might have had
the turtle that day. And I'm playing and,
Rodney changed my life. He changed my life
(24:34):
because we listened to you. I was out
there dancing or stumbling around. Is that the
time I gave you bail money? Do you
know what? In a way, this is about
that because I dropped a dollar. I think
maybe $2 into the tip jar. You looked
down at it and you said, hey. You've
been really enjoying our music. Is that all
we're worth to you? You sent this to
me, and I it made me feel guilty.
And you know what? Ever since that day,
I'm always now I at least $5 bill.
(24:56):
Yeah. Never less than $5 bill. I never
said that to you. You did? You did?
You said it's I must have been joking
with you. I wouldn't do that. Because no.
It was it was it was one of
those things that hit me. And I went,
oh my god. I guess these guys, they're
out here on the heat. They're out there
week after week, and I'm giving them a
dollar too. And, hey, you guys are worth
the least of 5. So I switched right
then, and I still carry that with me
today. Now a $5 bill today is like
(25:18):
a Yeah. Oh, yeah. A day. Rodney still
has that $1 bill too. Troy has my
50¢ piece. But I had to I had
to tell that story. I was thinking about
it. I didn't think I'm saying that. Now
Yes. Maybe I do. What is a what
is a pirate's favorite instrument?
Guitar. Guitar. Guitar. And we just had the
the festival here this last week, the pirate
(25:40):
festival. And I just saw a video of
you and up on the stage with,
Frank Hernandez. Frank Hernandez. You're up there having
a ball. Oh, man. We rocked. We rocked.
It was so hot though. Right? It was
Well, the first day it was. Yeah. Today
and Saturday. Sunday was nice. Right. Sunday was
nice. Yeah. Oh, so you were on Sunday?
Because we saw Freddie Hernandez on Saturday.
(26:02):
No. Friday. Was it Friday? It was Friday
and it was so hot. Yeah. We only
It was brutal. And What the heck? Now
we're back to fog.
Yeah. Now we're back to the fog, which
I think I I don't know how the
vendors did. I hope they did well and
Yeah. Oh, I was surprised because we're sitting
out in the audience watching him do his
show, and all of a sudden, he says,
hey, hey, everybody. Give a big hand for
Troy Smith. Come on out and play some
(26:22):
guitar. Wow. How cool is that? Up there
and the, we,
we had a good time. We were rocking.
Man, you, you have the look. You got
the swagger. You got everything. Yep. Yep. Troy.
Absolutely. Keep going. Keep going. Everybody got Or
you should say you should say quit it
some more.
Now this is recorded, you know, I could
take this song with me. Right? Right. I've
listened to this over and over. You surely
(26:43):
absolutely can. What's your,
what's your favorite venue to play here in
town when you're playing out on the on
in our region, I should say. Anybody that
will hire us. Anybody that will hire us?
You got
we play the Checo Brewery a lot. Nice
big stage, nice big Big stage. Nice. Nice.
Nice. Nice.
Nice. Nice people. Yeah. Yeah. We like Alex.
Yeah. You sometimes have a smaller band, sometimes
(27:04):
a bigger band Mhmm. Depending on, I don't
know, the venue, I guess. But who are
your bandmates? What are the names? Yeah. We
have Jim Newman. Yep. Hey, Jim. What's going
on, man? He's on keyboards. Mhmm.
We have a fellow by the name of
Jeff Holloway. He's the harmonica player. Yeah. Heart
guy. Lives up in Gold Beach. Good guy.
Oh, yeah. And let's see,
Doctor d. Doctor d. Now is he Doctor
(27:26):
d. How is he doing? Good. He's doing
really well. He's had a little situation. Yeah.
He's
home now and recovering from his surgery. So
For those who don't know, doctor d went
to, some,
triple bypass surgery. Wow. Yeah. Wow. A number
of weeks ago. He's home. Good. Yep. Super
nice guys. And his wife is tired of
him already.
(27:47):
We'll just send him back to work. So
he's not running the automotive, he's not working
over here at his at his shop. Doctor
d's automotive. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. He's the one
that keeps the the van on the road
and all the equipment and stuff. So he's
out indefinitely
for a while. Oh, no. We're just, we
canceled what we have left for the rest
of the year until he recovers. Yeah. Alright.
Kinda have a good time. Working with a
(28:07):
new drummer is fine and all, but when
you're doing original music, nobody knows the difference
because Right.
It's all original. But,
the guy we're working with is really good,
but it's like going into battle with an
untested weapon sometimes. I got some gigs over
here that's really important. Yeah. Yeah. I want
the I want the whole structure to be
there. Right. Okay. We've we got a break
in a minute and a half for our
(28:28):
mid break show. We're already halfway through the
show. Show. It's amazing how Is the bar
open? Yeah.
Misty Mountain was closed today, by the way.
Oh, they were? Misty Mountain's closed. They were
their doors were shut. Both of you some
of your best memories, do you have any
incredible memories either way back in the day
or the memories that are up here, with
people in this area of one of your
favorite memories,
(28:48):
stories you wanna tell? In this area? Yeah.
Why not?
Or another if that's faster.
Nope. Can't say we got a thing. But
you played with some pretty big big acts.
Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah. He toured,
with Blue Cheer for a while. Blue Cheer,
which had the couple of big hits. Right?
(29:09):
Yeah. Everybody Ain't no cure for the summertime?
No cure for the summertime. That was what?
Jimmy Cochran tune? Eddie Cochran. Eddie Cochran. Eddie
Cochran. Eddie Cochran. Yeah.
And you guys did that. But, yeah. They
didn't they get in the Guinness Book of
World Records for being
or coining the phrase heavy metal. Yeah. Wow.
There's a, Rolling Stone history Rolling Stone, the
(29:30):
big book, the history of, rock and roll.
You open up the first page where they
have an editor's note. Okay. The, the editor
says something credits blue cheer,
for starting heavy metal. Heavy metal music. And
then, you have all kinds of people jump
on you, man, because it's Black Sabbath, you
know? I thought it was Black Sabbath. Right.
Lose a blue cheer. Yeah. Yeah. I used
(29:52):
to do my laundry with you guys. That
was big, big okay. How about are there
any regrets that you made? No? She's saying,
nope. She's saying yep. Come on. Oh, he
said regrets. Hold on. I got a request.
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(31:18):
and yours truly thank you so much. Alright,
doc. Get back to what we Yeah. So
you were asking any regrets, and he knew
some right away. Yes. Yeah. It's right here.
Okay. When I was with cheer, Blue Cheer,
we were in Oakland, California at Fantasy Records,
Fantasy Studios,
and, we were cutting some demos.
So, I didn't have anything to do, and
(31:40):
I had to use the men's room. So
I'm in the men's room doing what men
do in the men's room. And this What
do they do? Back back then. Back then.
Yeah.
So,
I'm standing at the urinal and this little
short cowboy walks in with a button down,
Cowboy shirt. Cowboy shirt and dusty old,
(32:00):
boot 10 year old cowboy boots that stands
next to me. And, we do our thing.
But just before I went to the men's
room, I walked down the end of the
hall,
and I looked inside one of the doors
to the recording studio, and there was every
kind of imaginable
combination of guitar and amplifier
you could think of in a long
(32:21):
road down at the end of the hall
where a drum set was set up in
a gazebo.
Wow. And I looked up and it said
John Fogerty.
Oh. And I'm going, wow. Wow. Wow.
And I'm in the men's room and I
just saw this and I'm going in my
mind, wow. Wow. John. Wow. Wow. This little
cowboy walks upstairs right next to me. I'm
going, wow. Wow.
(32:42):
You know?
And, you know, I'm not gonna start opportunity.
That was John Fogerty? I'm not gonna start
up a conversation in the men's room where
we're doing men's room business, and I didn't
know who it was. Yeah. It was John
Fogerty. It was John Fogerty. And I had
this going in my mind, and all I
had to do was turn it on. Just
say, hey. Hey. You know what I just
saw, man? But you would've turned and you
would've leaked all of it. I mean, that's
(33:04):
It might've been his best solo ever. Yeah.
Because I get recognize him,
and I was gonna say, gosh. You just
see you were stuttering. I just saw, man.
I was
I got a hand you know, he would've
say, well, come on. Come on in and
play something. Yeah. Let's go take a look.
And I would've said, no. No. We can't
go in there, man. And, you know, it
went John Ford. You turn and wash your
(33:24):
hands and walk out. Yeah. The very You
better walk your hands. I didn't realize later.
Oh,
I was drunk. Fogarty.
The very first time I ever saw a
live band, some friends of mine took me
to UC Davis Alright, Rod. To this band
k. That was, playing in the auditorium there.
We're sitting against the back wall and then
watching these guys. K. It was my first
(33:45):
time ever seeing live music.
Come to find out later on, it was
a band called the Gollywags.
The I've heard the Gollywags. Yeah. They were
Creedence Clearwater. Creedence Clearwater. Yes. Before they changed
their name to Creedence Clearwater. Oh. They're Bible.
Wow. And a year
long time later, I figured out, oh, oh,
god. I saw I saw them and didn't
know who they were at that time, you
know. My, my girlfriend at the time and
(34:06):
her girlfriend,
Oh, he went to high school with Timothy
b Schmidt for the Eagles. Eagles. Base player
for the Eagles. Yeah. We're both on surf
bands together. Oh.
But,
before they were Credence, golliwogs, they would follow
the circuit that our band played in.
And, my girlfriend and a couple of her
girlfriends went out to see the golliwogs
(34:27):
at one of these venues, and they ended
up going to an after hours party. Right?
I love it. Oh, yeah, man. We got
an album coming out here in in a
month or two, and the girl's going, yeah.
Yeah. Heard that before.
And it was Krigen's crew. Wow. Wow. That
is really cool. Wow. Okay.
What are you guys always getting better now?
You're gonna be 80? Yeah. 80 in September.
(34:49):
80 in September? Your six years younger?
I'll be 74 in October. Okay. So are
you guys getting better as we get age?
Or do you feel like you're getting better?
We're not getting any worse. Not getting any
worse. Right on. That's a good way to
look at it. Right on.
And and you play both covers and originals.
We know that. Yeah. So how long you
been writing your own? Are you were you
(35:09):
mainly the writer? Do you write Ronnie? Yeah?
No. Troy does most all the writing. But
he he, you know, wouldn't be the same
without that bass partner Ronnie puts in. Right.
But, when we moved when I moved from,
Sacramento up to Washington,
the band that I put together then, I
said, no, man. You know, you never You've
been you've been playing covers all your life.
How are you gonna get in here if
you don't? Where you gonna get in here?
(35:30):
They're all their original music is the covers
you're playing. Right. From there. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
That's when we started right now. I just
told them, you know, man, we're gonna do
all original because we're artists. Right. Are you
a poet?
And don't know it. And don't know it.
Okay. Yeah.
Are we gonna finish with your originals? We
know your originals. They're great. I mean, we
danced to them. They're they're just part of
(35:51):
your whole So the originals, you do all
the music anthem and the words? Yeah. Mhmm.
Sitting in my bedroom, it was late one
night, staring out the window at the broad
daylight. Come on, knock on my back door.
That loving little lady's coming back for more.
Oh. She said, get up. Get out of
that bed. It's a beautiful day and you
ain't dead.
Oh, my Get up. Baby, take me out
(36:12):
tonight. I wanna party till the moon is
bright. Oh, my goodness. I love it. I
absolutely love it.
So you're gonna where do you, any you're
you're canceled for the rest of the year
because doctor
E is down. So Hiatus. Alright. And Right.
Where do you see yourself then next year
or in two years? What do you guys
wanna be? Well, actually, I do a, solo.
(36:33):
Where I play lead guitar to,
prerecorded
band tracks, full band, and I play lead
guitar over them through a PA system. And
I will be
at the,
Umbrella. Umbrella.
Umbrella?
Yeah. It's a new winery down around Ocean
View. Umbrillas.
Oh, wait a minute. Would that
that florist?
(36:54):
Florist or something or Pacific florist. Pacific florist.
Yeah. Yeah. Right. Okay. They're having entertainment there.
Now Chris Capitano played there last and it
went over really well. We gotta go. And
is there wine there? Is that the Yes.
Their gig? Wine? I I do believe so.
Sneak in bottles of
them. Okay. Do you have any plans or
you just wherever he goes, you go?
(37:16):
It's his it's his solo, so you're not
doing anything. Right? I'm his roadie.
He's my sound tech, my roadie. Right on.
Are you guys available for hire? Let's say,
do two like, you're gonna be doing today,
the two. Of course. Can you do the
Eich sets at a wedding or whatever?
Before. Yeah. Sure. Just a park. How do
they get a hold of you to book
them? Get a hold of us on the
(37:37):
Facebook.
Troy Spence Brothers, s p e n c
e. Right? Mhmm. Brothers. Troy Spence and Rodney.
Do you have an email you wanna
telephone number? Telephone number. Yeah. Okay. Write it
down. Let me wait. Hold on. I got
it. Pen. I'll do this. Do it twice.
Okay. Hit us with your phone number. How
to get a hold of Troy Spence
(37:57):
directly. 360360.
535
4066.
Alright.
(360)
535-4066.
And
you're not playing any more gigs because doctor
d's down. Yeah. If something really
important comes up and there's a function that
somebody wants to have a band that's, you
(38:18):
know,
fiftieth birthday or wedding or something like that,
we can get a We do have a
replacement drummer that could Okay. And Jem's playing
the piano. Oh, yeah. Playing the synthesizer. So
he's And Jeff on the harmonica. He's performing
the harmonica. And Jeff is spelled g e
o f f. Right? Yeah. Okay. I've announced
it different. G o what?
G o f. G o f. G o
f. G o f. Our player. G o
(38:39):
f. Okay. So we got your phone number.
We got your, email. We'll come back to
that in a little bit. But, doc Yeah.
Is it time? Yes. It's time. It's time.
We are gonna hear you guys. To treat
our ears. To treat our ears and the
listeners, What are you gonna play for us?
Well, I'm gonna do some strumming here while
Rodney,
picks up the bass. Okay. Let's let's hear,
Troyce. Let's start.
(39:47):
Alright.
Okay.
Rod is now booked. Change.
(40:24):
Come a little closer and,
listen to me.
This happened back in
'seventy three.
Playing a rock and roll in a rock
and roll band. I was playing rock and
roll all across this land.
Playing in a tavern in, Downtown Kent.
(40:45):
Through the front door held leather for vent.
Tequila mamas
was their name, and a skinning musician's
was their game.
(41:05):
Well, a bottle in one hand and a
lime in the other.
I could tell this night was gonna be
like no other.
Walked up the stage and they turned to
spit.
I'm not gonna sing the next line because
it's just not fit.
Little baby.
(41:51):
Woah.
Alright.
Okay. Now what was that what was that
little ditty called? He just wrote it. He
just did it on the spot.
Doing called Tequila Mamas. True story. Tequila Mamas.
Yeah. I was playing, with the band. In
Downtown Kent. Yeah. In Kent, Washington. And to
the front door, it came these three ladies
at the bottom. Well, see, in up there,
(42:12):
you bring your own liquor. It was a
BYOB thing. Yeah. Alright. In that state, then
you buy your, your, mix reserves stuff. Right.
And they had a big old bottle of
tequila, Jack. Not Jack. Tequila. With some of
them. They were trying to do anything they
could do to make the band mess up.
Yeah. Woah.
And I mean any they were doing anything
they could do to
(42:33):
They
were just doing. They weren't lifting up part
of their clothes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They
Kidding.
Clashed this a couple of times. Oh, that's
lucky you. And, of course, I forgot what
I was doing. It did totally work. Come
on now. I'm a rockstar.
You know? So the line goes, I they
brought your tequila, but you had the lime
or they brought the lime stew?
Yeah. They brought the lime. Okay.
(42:55):
Wow.
Alright. Well, that is an original one. Okay.
What are we hearing next? What do you
got? Anything else original song for us here
that we're gonna
tear it up with the Spence Brothers, Rodney
and Troy and the KCIWs. Okay.
(45:19):
Oh, well.
What did you call that? Do you think
we should have rehearsed the English version?
Oh, let's not ruin a good thing. I
did good. No. Your music
genre is called blues rock. Is that right?
Yes. And what you how did you know?
I was gonna ask that. No. You were
not. I was gonna ask this. Really? You
drunk it last night?
I mean, are you more bluesy
(45:41):
rock? I mean, yeah. Play it all. Right?
Fifty fifty. Yeah.
Fifty fifty. Fifty fifty. I wanna do that.
Sixty forty.
What a good day. I went into the
eighty eight. Bar one time. No. It's four
20. There were three I'll be right back.
I went to a bar once there were
three dividers. One was rock, one was country,
and one was blues. Oh, really? Well, no.
I'm joking.
(46:03):
I'm interested in seeing that on the way
out of the night. He totally listened to
your own story. Hey. Do you know why
Keith Richards do you know why Keith Richards
owns three thousand guitars? Why? Because he buys
one every year.
He
does.
He does.
He's an old guy. He's an old
He's job security.
(46:24):
Yeah. Now do you have another? Yeah. We
have one more and then we'll break through.
We have our last few minutes here with
our our joke time. Another fantastic one. The
Spence Brothers in the case interview. Yes. Right.
Studio? I'm feeling it. You know, when I
was a little boy,
my daddy, he said to me,
(46:47):
he said, son, if you won't be popular,
then the guitar's
for thee.
You know, it's got six strings,
and it tunes right here.
Now here's an e chord, son.
(47:07):
Practice
about a year.
Well, he taught me my A, Bs and
Cs.
He says it goes like this.
You know, son, there's a lot of pretty
girls out there that are dying
to be kissed.
You know I'm rocking. Yeah.
(47:32):
Rocking my life away.
You know this rock and roll sensation.
You know
here to stay.
(47:54):
So,
I got me some records.
I put them on my stereo.
You know, I tuned up my guitar.
Man, I was raring to go.
I had me some John Lee Hooker.
(48:14):
I had me some Jimmy with a spoon.
You know, know, I love that church where
she said, Daddy, but I'm dying
to sing a flute.
You know I'm rocking.
Rocking
my life away.
(48:58):
You know, it's,
here to stay, baby.
Oh my goodness. The Spence Brothers, Troy and
Mark. Nice. And the KCFW studio. I thought
he was saying, oh, yeah. I bet that
was you then. Right? Oh, did I say
that? I should say that. Huge stop at
(49:18):
the end, but I thought it would
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I thought it was
part of this song.
Rodney,
and and,
Troy. Troy r. No. Come on.
It's Trotney
r. R. Available for hire for for those
of you that might wanna reach out and
have them,
play at your next party or gathering, and
they could be reached at area code (360)
(49:41):
535-4066.
One last time. (360)
535-4066.
Gigi and I will vet and and,
vet them out that they are phenomenal. They
are you guys are nice guys to begin
with. And I Don't don't ruin it. Wait
a minute. Wait a minute. I noticed that
during breaks,
when I've seen you, take breaks, you don't
just disappear. You tend to kind of mingle
(50:03):
with the crowd. Oh, absolutely. I've seen young
gals come up to you and like pour
their hearts out to you during between your
set. I remember one time at Inoteca.
This young gal came up to you and
just you sat there so patiently and held
her hand. She was just telling you her
whole
surprise story. Well, you know, that's why we
do it. Yes. You know, I mean, when
you play music music
(50:24):
is a language
all its own. Right on. You know, you
if you've never heard a song from,
say, Elvis Presley that he put out in
1955
for the first time, you just heard it
yesterday.
That's the amazing thing about
music, you know. If you've never heard it
before, it's brand new. Right. And the nostalgia
it could bring to put you right back
(50:47):
into some Make you happy.
Make you think. Yeah.
The people and Make you wanna, you know,
slap your ex wife.
All those good things. You were laughing, divorce
your kids when I said
Yort and Trodny. Oh, really? So go Troy's
a good artist. He started a comic strip,
and it was about there's two ambitions where
we're broke down in space in their spaceships,
(51:08):
and they were called we just took our
names and spelled them backwards.
So Maybe there were Yeah. It was York.
Something like that. York.
York. That's alright. York. I like that York.
Yeah. Okay. Spaceship band kept breaking down all
the time between the gigs and the things
we write here to get through. Well, you
gotta write that down. Hold on. What is
it? Backwards? Troy and York. Yeah. Okay. But
(51:28):
that's who you've been listening to today.
Yeah. On KCIW,
how how does Robin Williams do it? He's
doing back and that backwards is.
What he used to say, I should say.
Alright, Troy and Rodney. Thank you very much.
On this radio show. Thank you for being
on. We we love your music. Everybody else
(51:49):
does. You are iconic local Oh, really? Legendary
people and,
super, super talented gentlemen. Thank you again for
coming on our show. Gonna do this again
next week. We what? I tell you what
we'll do. Can we just stay over? We
we'll
do this while I get back on every
every six months. Every so come every six
months. Whiskey slipper? Hey. Whiskey six Whiskey slippers.
(52:10):
Hey. It's a new band. A minute. Speaking
of whiskey.
Okay. I got some I have a great
joke of the
I can't find it now.
Hey. I'm no good at math, but I
do know that five out of three people
struggle with numbers.
Yeah. Are we doing fun time corner? Yeah.
Let's do fun time corner. Fun
time corner. Thank you guys for that. Woo
hoo. We got four minutes of jokes here.
(52:30):
I knew he was so misled. Listen.
I'm writing
a book on reverse psychology.
Yep.
So don't buy it.
You get it? I got it. K. It
was it's like almost like my throat. Rodney,
what happens if you don't pay your exorcist?
You get You gotta go back to Klaus.
(52:50):
You get repossessed.
You know, I have a bunch of my
Oldsmobile.
You're,
you're pretty talented, man. You should be on
stage. Oh. The first one out of town.
Can you can't get to the old ones.
Can you sing tenor? Yeah. Tinder 12 miles
from here.
(53:11):
Alright. What's a good quote, doctor? Give us
some quotes. Your life does not get better
by chance. My boy. It does get better
by choice. It gets better by that's coming
from a doctor. Hey. I'll bet anyone that
I can stop gambling.
That's good. Hey. I don't drink anymore
or any less.
Hey. I'm on the whiskey diet. I've already
(53:33):
lost four days.
That's true. And I had one one time.
We drank two bottles of, a wine called
Night Train. Oh, night train? What happened? Yeah.
Well, we packed up everything we owned, and
we were about 40 miles out of town
before we
realized we weren't driving to Sacramento. Anyways. Seattle.
Oh my god. Worst holdover and went to
(53:53):
sleep at next morning and went back home.
Worst
hangover
ever. God. Hangover ever. We don't do that.
Night train. Oh. Couldn't even write a song
about it. It's funny because I've seen people
on, Facebook
say the same thing about the worst hangover
they ever had over the night train. Oh
my god. Night Train. I thought it was
a fun time. I think it was Nitrol?
(54:14):
Nitrol?
Night train. 99¢
a gallon. Oh my goodness. Okay, Gigi. Give
us some more quotes. Alright. We only got
a few minutes. Not even that. With great
power comes an even greater electric bill.
Not a bad one, actually. I like this
one. I like this one. Support bacteria.
It's the only culture that some people have.
(54:37):
Not bad.
Scientists have recently discovered that protons actually have
mass.
Oh, who knew they were Catholic?
Yeah. That's crazy.
Come to think of it, Moses had the
first tablet
that connected to the cloud.
There you go. One more when the He
had a separation covered.
That's true.
No. We have to stop. Okay. Do I
(54:58):
give my money back to this?
Hey. Listen, everybody. You have been listening to
the Doc and Jock radio variety show on
KCRW
oh, no. Hundred point seven FM in Brookings,
Oregon. Again, we wanna thank Tom Bozak, Grace
Simon, and everyone else and Linda out there
listening to,
this. Thank you so much. If you are
interested in this show and being on it,
(55:18):
you could reach out to us, docandJacques@Gmail.com.
And now stay tuned for Tony Durso
on Que Serrano, everyone. And you notice all
the specs brothers here.
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