August 3, 2025 • 59 mins
In this episode of the Doc & Jacques radio variety show, the members of Black Dirt Gumbeaux—Rob Clift, Vince Jesse, Sable Clift, and Morgan Jesse—stop by to talk about their musical journeys and the meaning behind their band’s name, which nods to both Texas and Louisiana. They describe blending Texas singer-songwriter vibes with the rich […]
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Welcome, everyone. Far and near, you have now
entered the cosmic
radio receptors
of ACOW
one hundred point seven FM in Brookings, Oregon.
Thank you for tuning into this week's fabulous
program. I'm doctor Gigi, and my cohost is,
as always, Jacques Kepner. How are you today,
Jacques Hippo? I'm doing fine, doctor. Greetings, everyone.
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A big shout out to our sound engineers
and helpers in the studio,
Ray Simon and Tom Bozak and then the
listeners,
Linda outside listening carefully to our show.
And then there's other people. I saw Michael
Gorris in here. We got a we got
a we got a good studio full of
people. Good show lined up for you today.
Welcome to the Doc and Jacques Radio Variety
Show. I wanna mention that you are hearing
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this live show
right now
on KCIW in Brookings, Oregon. That said, the
same show will be broadcast
next week exactly one week from now,
each and every Wednesday morning on KZZH
ninety six point seven FN and Eureka Humboldt
at guess what time? What? 8AM.
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Well, when you And then a few hours
later, I had 1PM on my old alma
mater Be up by then?
Wait a minute. I'm up. You get up
early most of the time. I'm up with
you. And then at my old alma mater,
KFUG one zero one, point one FM in
Crescent City, California, both those are community radio
stations like KCIW.
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So now you know, doctor Gigi and I
have got your
coasts covered.
Okay. Before we introduce our incredibly talented and
interesting
musical
muse
Musician? Musician. Musician.
Okay.
Bringing it. Yeah.
Doctor Gigi,
is gonna talk about something that you say
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you've talked about three times? Two. Two. It's
the third one today? Because we've had nearly
90 shows. And in that 90 shows,
almost coming up two years Alright. It's vocal
cords.
You're talking about the vocal cords, are you?
Is that what it is? Yeah. But not
like I did before when all the things
that can go wrong. So today, we're just
gonna actually basically talk about the anatomy
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of Of the vocal cords. The vocal cords.
Yeah. They're pretty weird things. Right? They're pretty
strange. Yeah. They're pretty strange. So they sit
in
something called larynx or a voice box. It's
a larynx, not larynx. I still hear it.
Larynx.
Larynx.
So which is the voice box where we
make the sound, and they have the position
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they look like a v,
where the point is at the front directly
behind the Adam's apple.
See them, but you have because you've had
cadavers and you've looked at bodies and Yeah.
And I have actually looked I had a
scope one time and, actually, I saw my
own little local courts.
It's pretty cute. And they were screaming like
they do at me?
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So,
they are no. You're supposed to say, hey.
Do girls have Adam's apples? Do Adam they
don't they don't have Adam's apples. No. They
have Eve apples. Right? So the medical name
for Adam's apple is the so called laryngeal
prominence.
Who? It is visit this is the visible
bulge in front of the neck that is
formed by the so called
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thyroid cartilage.
Hint hint. That's where this thyroid sits. And
it's all in the neck.
And and it protects the the the voice
box, the larynx for men and women. So
women also have
the so called Adam's apple. Pictures of them
are And and do we have a, like,
a a we've got a bunch of bones
in our neck. Right? So they're there to
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kinda protect us us or not? We have
seven
cervical
vertebrae.
Oh. And then we have one hyoid bone.
Wouldn't you know a doctor? So you're possibly
in the wrong And they cannibal not the
same because cannibals, they always said cannibals said
that the best tasty meat
is around the neck.
And the kitten, that's kinda strange. But do
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you know do you know why cannibals,
what why cannibals don't eat clowns? Why? Because
they taste funny.
Got some chuckles out of some Okay. Alright.
That's fine. Okay. So if anybody of the
musicians anywhere around
knows how the reed
instruments work,
that's how the vocal codes cords work. You
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put air around it and then they kind
of start to vibrate.
I heard of harmonica.
The the vocal cords measure about
1.5 centimeters in males, which is about
a little more than a half an inch,
and 1.2 centimeters for females, which is a
little bit less than half an inch. There
it is. So they're different size. Right? So
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the different size results in the men's voice
sounding lower, deeper. Deeper like mine.
Maybe even up to an octave than the
women's.
What part of your body makes the best
musical instrument, doctor?
Do you know? Do you know? What? Your
nose.
Because you can pick it and blow it.
It's a great instrument.
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The vocal cords are the v shaped ones
in front with the point, and they are
stretching
horizontally. They're tense. And so when they Right.
When they open and close, it's kind of
a car's windshield
wipers.
They are attached in the middle and then
They're so strange. Right? They're weird things and
somehow our voices
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can be heard. They are smooth
muscle. They're made out of smooth muscle. So
there it's a muscle, but smooth meaning we
cannot actually actively tell them what to do.
It just happens by us putting
air around it, and then we learn how
to make words with it. That's when you
dry out. It's just Kinda get coarse at
such. So you can dry, you know what's
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the leading, what the leading cause of dry
skin is?
Guess what?
Towels. Yeah. Towels
are the number one leading cause of dry
skin.
I'm kidding you. I always say because I'm
a doctor.
Do you know what's really odd, doctor?
What? Every other number.
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Okay.
I'll let you get on with your show.
Thank you. Thank you for allowing.
So the vocal cords vibrate like the reed
I have to do with my Your last
name is Reed. Right?
Instruments. So get this
a thousand times a second.
Woah. Right? Just like my thumb on scrolling
when I get excited.
When you go and see the reels. Uh-huh.
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Whispering is more tiring for the vocal cords
than talking. Whispering
is more tiring than
Yeah. Because the extra air that we have
to put through there so they don't vibrate
louder, dries them out and without a towel.
Do you know how I criticize doctor Gigi,
everyone?
How do you do that? Very, very quiet.
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I whisper. I whisper.
Now there's another word that we need to
word, or What have we got? And that's
the glottis.
And, really, a lot of people know about
the epiglottis.
Glottis. Okay. So what is the glottis? I'll
tell you what the glottis is. The glottis
is actually the space. It's a non
thing. It's the space between
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the vocal cords and the the area below.
K. So that is
a space that has a name. And the
epiglottis
is basically like a lid that goes down
onto the space. Like, I always envision it
like a,
a stein a beer stein that has the
lid going down. That's kinda what the epigraphy
blood is. You're German.
You love your beer.
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Yeah. So that's all I have for the
for the No. That's all that That's it.
Oh, look. Then I gotta
tell everybody. I went
to the doctor, and I said, doctor, everybody
hates me. Doctor G Jesus says, don't be
ridiculous.
Not everyone has met you yet.
And I also broke my arm in two
places. Doctor G Jesus said, stop going to
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those two places.
I find it ironic that the colors red,
white, and blue stand for freedom until they're
flashing behind you.
Okay.
We filled in a few jokes that I
normally don't do, but I think we have
quite an interesting crowd here. I appreciate you
talking about the vocal cords. Mhmm. They're still
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one of the strangest things I think. Right.
Yeah. We are like aliens. I mean, we're
made up of just
amazing
amazing, things
that make up our body. And the vocal
cord has to be one of the most
incredible things.
We're here on the radio. You're hearing us
through your ears but we are speaking.
The fairways with the vocal I'm trying to
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be a doctor. I'm trying to be serious.
All right.
We have musicians
in the house today.
We have let me pull up some questions
here before I get into this one moment
here.
We have three guests but then we were
just joined by a fourth guest. And these
are very interesting people. These are people that
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many of us in our local regional
corner of the world, our coastal area, are
familiar with. And they are someone that's been
on our radar for quite a while. And
that those people are with dirt black dirt
gumbo. You got it. And how do you
spell g u m b e a u
x? That's right. Let me go x at
the end of it. Alright.
Where would we be without music? If we
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did not have music, we would be
kind of lost, I think, as a species.
What is more emotional when you think about
it than that nostalgic song that comes on
and touches your heart, like very few things
can. So music is the way we communicate,
many of us, and the way we,
well, we enjoy life. So without any more
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verbiage verbiage from me, I would like to
introduce the members
of the Black Dirt Combo.
We've had Rob Cliff on my left. Hey,
Rob. Hey. How's it going, Rob? Peace and
love. Good to see you. Thanks for having
us out here. Well, Scott finally got you
in. Yeah. Absolutely.
And then we next to him, we have
Vince Jesse. Hey, Vince. How's it going, man?
Good to see you. Glad to be here.
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You're all you're all man, you're holding your
guitar. You got your harmonica there.
And, next to you hey. Next to you,
Rob, would you tell us who our third
guest is? Is? Yeah. Absolutely. So we got
joined with my daughter, Sable Clift. Hey, Sable.
And she's been here for her summer vacation
and, teaching her bass. And she has joined
the band for the summer and will be
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playing with us today. On. Right on. And
we just hear you just celebrated your 20
birthday, dude.
I believe Hey. Hey. Easy jock.
Alright? Don't rush it.
Oh, no. I won't. And then we just
had another visitor came in, and we that's
Vince Jesse's daughter,
Morgan. Hey, Morgan. And you're kind of over
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there in the corner. Doesn't have the There
she goes. Your voice is on on forever,
forever captured there on radio. Welcome. And you
are visiting from where? Was this I'm visiting
from Los Angeles a couple weeks ago. Los
Angeles. LA. Yes. Woo hoo. And you just
graduated and got something on what did you
graduate from? Yes. I just became a respiratory
care practitioner
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officially.
Wow. That is really, really, really good. Congratulations
on that. Respiratory is we need. And that's
right. So Very cool. If you ever consider
coming up here. Right? I'm sure we have
jobs. Yeah. And we're we're Your doctor here
could put you in a steer you in
the the right
direction. Okay. We're gonna start, we normally start
off with Sable, the,
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the,
well, the less than 21 year old today,
but we're not. We're gonna go to dad
over here Alright. And and get some questions
from dad. And Gigi, you you you start
off. You ask. Alright. So you already told
him the name. So, Rob, where are you
from? Where did you grow up? Absolutely. Well,
thank you for having us on here, doctor
Reed. Thank you. And Jacques, Black Dirt Gumbo,
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right here in the house. We're excited to
be here. And no, I hail from Texas.
So,
Tejas. Tejas. Yeah. North Texas growing up a
lot in my life.
Spent a lot of time on the, the
the the Red River border, if you will,
there between, you know, Oklahoma and and Texas.
And, but recently, the last fifteen years in
the Austin area, and, I like to tell
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people I'm I'm from LaGrange because everyone remembers
that name. On Bonvoy. That's it. That's the
that's the town. So LaGrange, Texas, I got
to know it,
know it well. And,
yeah, played lots of great music down there.
So that's where I'm hailing from. And, now
that we've moved here to Brookings, I can
get to say I'm I'm from Brookings. Right?
Right. Yeah. Right. On. And how long ago
did you arrive in Brookings? One year ago.
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Yeah. It was a matter of fact. Yeah.
One year. Oh, my god. That's been here
for you. About this time last year,
my partner Cassandra and I Both Cassandra play
with her. Absolutely.
You work with Cassandra. Oh, yeah. Right? Have
mentioned that. Hey,
Cassandra. She's the reason I'm out here. I'm
just following a dream. Right? There you go.
And, we hopped in our little, Casita, which
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is a little travel trailer, and we eighteen
days across The United States traveling. It was
fantastic. And we landed right here in Brookings.
And I I don't think I would ask
to be anywhere else than the Brookings. You
know, it's hard it's hard to beat. Right?
Totally is a hard place to beat.
How about you, Vince? Tell us a little
bit about where you're coming from, my friend.
Well, I am from Hawthorne, California down in
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Southern California, you know, home to the Beach
Boys. There you go. Also home. My mom
went to school with them. Really? Yeah. I
went to the same high school, but, you
know, twenty some years later.
But,
yeah. Yeah. So, you know, just kind of
a fun little area just and then moved
up here about
seven years ago.
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Now how come you moved up here? What
was the just kinda got tired of down
there. I've been there all my life, and
it's so crowded, and, you know, it's wonderful
up here. It is. Yeah. Isn't it cool?
And you and your kids, both of you
guys, both your daughters get to check this
place out. Right? I mean, it's so and
this beautiful weather
and the good vibes that are happening here.
Now one of our sponsors is, is,
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Advanced Airlines, and they fly on a Hawthorne.
Oh, yeah. Oh, my god. Yeah. Three of
mine. They fly on across the city. Right?
Love it. Love that airline. So and then
also,
they're three minutes from
LAX
Hawthorne. So
is Hawthorne just completely
saturated with people? How many people I don't
know the population anymore. I mean, I didn't
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live there. I lived in El Segundo before
I moved out here, but I grew up
in Hawthorne from, you know, or all my
life until 19 or so. Wow.
And it's a great little place. It's just
just like LA. It just is Yeah. It's
a big continuum.
Yeah. People just keep coming and, you know
Right. Right on. Alright. Sable, it's your turn.
You are not 21, not even close. You're
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14? Yep. 14. Wait a minute. She told
me you're 15 the other day. Oh my
god. Oh, man.
So where where did you grow up? Or
where are you growing up? So,
I was originally born in Florida Keys, but
I was raised in Galveston, Texas.
Mhmm. It's a little island close to Houston.
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But now
I'm, visiting here, my dad, in Brookings. Yeah.
You can see a topic here of the
coastal living right now. I love the coast.
Specific. She was born in Key Largo. Yeah.
I mean Largo.
Right on. Never been far from the coast
for more than a year, and I I
love it. Galveston, when you fly into Houston,
you pass over the islands. Right? I mean,
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this is there are islands out there. People
don't know. It's an island. 100%. Yeah. Galveston,
but And Houston, obviously. There's quite a few
oil tankers and things like that. Uh-huh. It's
okay. Big, big things. Alright. Was originally the
capital of Texas. It was. Galveston.
There you go. Oh, man. Now we're going
back to get little Jimmy Webb. Sable, how
do you like it out here? Out in
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Brookings? Yeah. I I'm loving it. I it's
just the perfect weather. And
I it's just I've loved
up here. Being in this coastal? Yeah. I,
I lived in Washington for a year. Washington
State? Yes. Washington State. And
I moved back to Galveston. And ever since,
I've been like, I wanna get back out.
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I've just I I love it up here.
This this is where I belong. Alright. I
wish my kids would have enthusiasm.
Right. I'm a lucky I'm a lucky dad.
Really? You are a lucky
father. And how about you, Morgan? Were you
really gonna be hanging out down south for
a long time? Or are you gonna spend
a little more time up here? I I
plan to move out of there pretty soon.
I spent my whole life down there, and
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I love it, but it's not the end
goal. I really do like it up here.
Okay. Like I said, you got a super
connection. Here she is. Right? Absolutely. Right here,
miss doctor. Well, that is fascinating. And
let's go to the basics. Rob,
tell us where Black Dirt Gumbo came out
this year. The name? Absolutely. Yeah. And and
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the name has a special part of what
we're doing here. So, you know, like I
said, Jacques, you know,
Austin, Texas, you know, that that area in
Texas, just grew up there. And my dad
was a John Deere dealer. So if you
can imagine in Texas growing up, you know,
I grew up around machinery, out in farms.
I wasn't a farm boy because I lived
in town, but I sure did enjoy getting
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out on those big tractors and combines. And
my dad used to tell a story. He'd
go around looking for me at the the
dealership, and he couldn't find me. I was
so afraid
that he'd lost me, and I'd be asleep
in one of those big cabs of a
of a of a combine somewhere. Combine. Just
napping. Half a million dollars. Oh, yeah. Oh,
yeah. This is back in the eighties, you
know. And Oh, they never were worth 200,000.
But I grew up listening
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to these farmers talk about the dirt, the
soil.
And the the name of the soil in
the Texas area is they call it black
dirt. It's it's a black dirt area. So
unlike
in Southern Oklahoma, just across the border with
the Red River, it's it's red. So they
call the the there's some bands out there
the Red Dirt Plowboys or the red you've
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heard of Red Clay Strays? There that's a
I've heard of Red Clay Strays. So the
Red Clay is that dirt from that, Oklahoma
area. Well, where we were, that dirt is
real clay, so it's called gumbo. And the
farmers always called it black dirt gumbo. It
just stuck in my head, and I've heard
musicians kinda refer to the black dirt gumbo.
And I just knew at some point, you
know, it'd refer back to what I'm doing
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and and the music that I'm singing because
it all comes from,
you know, from the heart. The music that
I'm singing about is what the way I
grew up, and so Black Dirt Goes over
the middle of the middle. Call that they
they call the earth gumbo? Absolutely. The clay.
The clay called
You know, the you know, in Louisiana, where
I live, gumbo is a It's a food.
Absolutely.
I thought that and it's spelled that way
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too. Right? I mean, the Louisianans place Well,
the reason everything with An E A U
X. Yeah. That's the French, you know, spelling.
The the beaux, B E A U X.
And Mhmm. You know, I picked that because,
homage to some of my background of growing
up,
as a musician.
Bobby Bergeron, one of these, just Cajun boys,
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that I grew up playing music with. He
was much older than me. I was just
16 year old boy. Here's this older guy
playing, just rocking out guitars,
and he invited me to play with his
band when I was 16. And he really
taught me music. So it's an homage to
the the Louisiana side of my music, and
I do play accordion and things like that.
Yeah. So the gumbo had to be spelled
correctly. Now not to say they don't spell
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it, you know, the regular gumbo way, but
we decided
it's gonna be gumbo. We're gonna go with
the traditional phrase. Hey. I gotta ask this
because it's a little bit out of order.
But, hey. You've been here one year. I
didn't know that you've been here one year.
I thought you'd been here one year. One
year. And you're also the manager up at
the The gallery? The Manley Art Center. Yeah.
That's right. You've kinda landed both feet and
just starting to You know, I I lived
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a charmed life. Yeah. You know? Like I
said, I came here with my my partner,
Cassandra. She got a fantastic opportunity to work
out here, and we were just man, we're
fed up with the heat, you know, the
Texas heat. None. We wanted to do something
a little different.
And when I landed here, I was looking
for a job, you know, outdoors, education is
what I do a lot of. But the
Manly Arts Center just kinda showed up, and
it's a perfect match. And it so it
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was kind of a meant to be kinda
situation, and it's really allowed
us, Black Dirt Gumbo with Vince, and, you
know, us getting together and playing music because
it's, you know, it's right here in town.
I'm not driving somewhere to go work. I'm
not commuting. I'm right here in the community.
So working in the community, I see people
from Right. We see you on Thursday night.
It's, Thursday night open mic. Right? And Mhmm.
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Yeah. Checo Brewery.
No. Now, Vince, you're not from
Teja. You're not No. So so how does
the gumbo jive with you? Well,
he came up with the name, and I
was like, well, that's pretty cool. You know?
It's like I mean, because I I wasn't
coming up with anything.
I I don't think you were here two
months when we met. Yeah. I mean, we
were both just playing the open mics in
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the area, and we
kinda That's how you met him. Since I
saw Vince playing, I'm like, I gotta play
with this. And so we started talking and
we got together and we're like, you know
what? This is good.
You know, we we have a lot of
the same
lines that cross, you know, in our music.
So how long have you been sorry. No.
It's a How long have you been playing
then? Yeah.
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Us together, we've been playing, I think, since
November. I mean Yeah. No. I mean, at
all. Oh, I've been playing gosh. I think
I soon as I could touch the piano,
I started playing. And my and I remember
the first song I learned on the piano.
I was listening to cartoons and it was,
the Pink Panther thing song. Dada. Dada. Dada.
Dada. Dada. Dada. Dada. Dada. Dada. Dada. Dada.
Dada. Dada. Dada. Dada. Dada. Dada. Dada. Dada.
Dada.
Dada. Steps up, you know, and I I
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learned it. My mom heard me playing on
the little piano. So she got me into
lessons, and I learned,
you know, classical piano. And then I went
on and studied music in college. Oh, okay.
Yeah. Music's
strong. Do you read music like most of
our guests cannot? Yep. I read all the
black dots. Wow. I resemble that remark.
So do you read Midnight Institute? I do
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not. No. That's okay. You just play by
ear. You're one of those guys that are
just gifted. You could just play it over
ear and remember things. Things. I was given
a guitar in 1980,
I think,
and then I just kinda started playing with
people. It was one of the old Beach
Boys guitars? No. It was a little yeah.
I still have it. Imagine that. I still
have it. I have everything.
It's a little acoustic
crappy
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guitar, and I I just started playing it.
And then I just progressively, you know I
always say I started out with nothing. I
still have most of it left. Yeah.
So, Sable, you grew up in a big
musician household then. Yep.
So did you take what was your first
instrument?
Guitar. Bass guitar. Yeah. So the first still
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playing? The first instrument I really got was
a guitar. Mhmm. Electric guitar up with my,
dad. We were,
up visiting my grandparents,
and I had been playing this old little
bad guitar that my brother had had for
a while. And my dad was like, well,
you're playing that a lot, so we can
get you an actual guitar. Good.
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Nice. So I got a guitar, and I
was playing that for a while. And I've
kinda fallen off the guitar, but up here
with the bass, I've really found my
my instrument. Yeah. I saw you a couple
weeks ago at,
at the mic, open mic. Right? That's what
you Yeah. I didn't know. I said, hey.
They got not. You had, Troy there. You
had multiple people working with you. And I
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noticed you, and I said, that gal is
playing The bass is guitar. Well, Jacques, I
told her, you know the difference between a
bass player and a guitar player. Right? What
is that? Well, a bass player, is on
their way to a gig. Yeah. The bass
player always gets more gigs.
That's kinda true. Right? I mean, in a
way. Alright. Can you read can you read
notes?
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I can
see when the notes go up. Right? Yeah.
Mostly She's learning. She's learning. Learning. Yeah. It's
not how about you, Morgan? Do you play
any instruments at all? Yeah. I mean,
I play just about everything except guitar, bass.
I played percussion, the drums.
Wow. You can play drums. So you got
the beat. You got the temp ins? You
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didn't tell me she played drums. It's been
a while, but I can't do music. I
did it all through middle school and high
school. It's just fun.
Cool. Alright. You're in the band. What was
your once you've been here up there, the
band is Not the you played the The
Glock and Oh, the Glock. The clock.
We should be in this drum. You've been
playing with glocks?
Yeah. I thought she's in LA, you know.
So
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Wow. Very cool. What else are the questions
you got real quick? Yeah. Well,
what kind of genre you said? A little
bit John. Homage, but your so
I I can answer that question. Yeah. It's
more it's it's broader than that, I'm I
feel. Well and I was gonna make the
reference, you know, the name black dirt gumbo.
The gumbo part of it is kind of
what we are. If you've ever made a
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gumbo, which you gotta start off with a
nice roux. Yeah. You know? So and I've
made plenty of gumbo and but it's kind
of whatever you have. You know? It's you
build that gumbo with what's leftover traditionally. Yeah.
And, so
we're kind of building our own gumbo. I
mean, we got Vince with this California
thing that melds right into especially our vocals.
And I'm a fan of Crosby, Stills, and
Nash. Yeah. I love it. Harmonizing. Right? And
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Yeah. But I'm pulling in that Texas feel
from, some of my influencer people like,
I'd say Robert O'Keen,
Guy Clark, Townes Van Zant. If you ever
listen to those old troubadours, the Texas troubadours,
that's where, you know, singer songwriters, I really
pull from that and I'm Those are some
of your big influences. Yeah. And I'll tell
you one of my biggest influence, I used
to say for the longest time, I'm a
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closet Billy Joel fan. But if you if
you watch his documentary and learn about Billy
Joel as a singer songwriter, what what affected
him? I mean, his songs,
I've always played them. Like, why are they
so passionate? Music, man. Well, I mean, that
guy lived his songs. He didn't just write
songs. I mean, he lived it. I mean
He's not dead, is he? No. No. Okay.
Well, alright.
No. And and so that passion behind that
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music is what has inspired me to, put
this together, and I wanted different flavors in
that music. And so when I met Vince,
Vince and I were playing we were over
at the Ox, The Ox and Free over
here, our local, place in there. Yeah. And
yeah. And they have an open mic, and
here we are. And I'm like, Vince, man,
I I love what you're singing. He seems
passionate about it. I said, I think we'd
blend really well. And he liked what I
(25:50):
was doing. And we got together. And as
soon as we got together and just started
talking about music. Right? You know? And, like,
hey. Listen to and we're pulling out things
left and right. We were, like, two kids
in a candy store. Well, you make a
presence. You make your presence done too. You're
not only just good, and you do mostly,
original, which is a good thing. That's the
other thing. But you just have, you have
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charisma up on the stage. You guys have
this kind of presence that people wanna look
up and say, wow. That that's incredible.
How about you, Vince? Who are some of
your big influencer? Oh, gosh. Well, Crosby, Stills
and Nash,
America,
Neil Young. All the Harmonizing stuff. Joni Mitchell.
Joni Mitchell. Oh, I love Joni Mitchell. Yes.
Oh, yeah. No. So yeah. I'm I'm kinda
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in that genre, of course, The Beatles and
that
sixties, seventies, you know, folk rock and rock
kind of stuff. That's cool. So you do
have a lot of or or not mostly,
but a lot of origin also. Who writes
mostly? Or do you both Yeah. Yeah. We
both write. I'm currently writing a lot of
it because I've just
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this here here's part of the story was
when, you know, Cassandra and I decided to
move out here, and I I've been a
camp director and youth director. And and when
I say youth, you know, outdoor education stuff.
I just fell in love with,
strangely enough, my degree is in percussion studies.
Studied in Africa at the University of Ghana.
Wow. Oh, yeah. It it goes deep into
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the music side. And so I was playing
music with a lot of really great players
in Austin, and but it wasn't as fulfilling.
And I I felt like I had
a heart full of songs that I didn't
know how to get out. And I'd written
a few.
Sable
knows, you know, some of my first songs.
She she inspired me to keep playing them.
She'd like when she was a little girl,
(27:34):
you know, I had this, one song called
I Wish, which we'll play today. Yeah. And,
you know, Sable, as a young girl, learned
all the lyrics to I Wish. And I'm
like, oh, man. I should do something with
that. And it's become one of our favorite
tunes. We we love playing. I love it.
He's really prolific at writing. I'm not so
much, but I Wow. Okay. I
(27:54):
I've I've I've come into rehearsal and we're
gonna play the next night. And they go,
hey. I got this new song. We're playing
it tomorrow night.
Okay. That's so true.
But I write slowly.
So
so
Alright. 15 songs of his and we're gonna
bring one of mine in. Yeah. And now
Vince is writing music. Yeah. Do you work
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do you do another job? Like, you are
at the Manly I do. I I, I
do I'm a maintenance mechanic out at the
prison. So I work for the state of
California. Have a lot of you don't have
a lot of time. You do have Hey,
well. I'm a state worker. I have a
lot of time. Disturbing the peace. Those guys
were all, you know They're all CEOs. Yeah.
All former CEOs. Right? Or worked at the
prison. One or two was current until, you
(28:38):
know, little while. Tony just got it recently.
Yeah. Yeah. Cool.
Alright.
How about you,
Sable Sable, who? Snoop Doggy Raccoon? I don't
know what these names that you might Oh,
no. Let her talk. She's got some favorites.
Who do you who is some of your
favorite
influencers?
Well, my biggest influence in, like, my favorite
band right now is a band called Ghost.
(28:59):
Ghost. Okay. They're fantastic too. I when she
pulled that out, I'm like, okay. What's this
new Ghost thing? I'm actually I'm a fan
too just because of her. Yeah. They're Ghost.
Okay. I'll look up Ghost. Yeah. I'm going
to a concert soon, but they're I mean,
the bassist, the guitarist, the singer, the drummer,
I just love it all. It's definitely my
favorite band.
(29:20):
Ghost. What? Yeah. Cool. My dad's also shown
me some bands like Styx. I'm enjoying Styx.
Oh, yeah. That's right.
Sticks. Yeah.
Green Day. I like Green Day.
I go to a lot of small bands
down in Galveston,
like a lot of basement shows and stuff.
Cool.
(29:40):
So so, yeah, I kind of just pull
inspiration from everywhere, and I have a lot
of big influences. You got a good you
got a good,
fake ID?
Nope.
Good to see you. And here we go.
Here we go, Josh. Is on my hand.
Darn it. You know, the x is on
my hand. I have to we have to
break right now because it is absolutely already
halfway through the show. You're tuned in to
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(30:02):
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I'll come back to this in just a
bit because we have a few more questions
we needed to ask before we break into
yours. Yeah. Let's do it. Do you write
music too? Have you started writing?
Well, you know, sometimes I I'll write down
some some music, some lyrics,
but I've I've never written a full song.
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I'll I'll sit in with my dad. I'll
give him, like, inspiration, but I just
I I have the I have the skills.
I just haven't put them into very cool
distracted. Let me find This this this young
lady Yeah. There you go. She is my
muse.
I mean, a lot of the songs I
write, and she inspires me. And Wow. Even
Vince will be sitting there, and he and
Vince will say, I love playing the song
(31:29):
looking at you, watching your response to Yeah.
You know? Or you consider yourself a poet?
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I I would say that's
this is my art form. You know, working
at the Manly Art Center That helps. They
ask me, well, what do you do? Are
you an artist? I'm like, yes.
And my art is the music. And on
Monday the fourth Monday is every month, we
have musicians gather Yeah. At the Manly Arts
Center for the Manly sessions. Very cool. So
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all the Manly sessions. Is that okay? Yeah.
One time. Yeah. One time later.
Okay. Cool. Is the band evolving? You've been
together now, what, four, five, five, six months
you said? Or Yeah. I mean, yeah. It's
this November. What's that? Six months? Six months
at least. Seven months. A little more. Yeah.
Is it evolving? Are you getting better and
better? You seem to be getting better and
better. And again, it's just stuck up. We
appreciate that. You're listening to us. So hearing
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that feedback really Yeah. Yeah. And I and
I hear people, and I think, Vince, you
hear people talk about it. Right? Oh, yeah.
Well, it's I I call it Brookings Famous.
Yeah.
Because
you can't go anywhere and somebody walks up,
says, hey. Don't you play guitar and this,
you know, and for your How far will
you guys travel? Because the show will be
heard next week in Eureka and Humboldt, big
audience down there. Yeah. We'd love.
(32:32):
They can just reach out to you. We'll
do that after you sing a few songs,
how people can connect with you.
And
any big things? Where do you think you're
gonna be in a couple years? Where do
you Absolutely. That's a great question. So, you
know, as we're putting our music together and
Vince and I are we're writing music. We're
playing music. You're right, Jacques. I mean, people
are feeding back to us saying, we love
(32:53):
what you're doing, and it's giving us inspiration
to continue
our original stuff. And I think or for
for me, and I think for Vince too,
is writing our original. Right? Yes. And, I
think we've got some new songs. Vince, you're
writing some songs right now. Right? Yep. And
he's got that, you know, that California style.
Right? And and so he brings his in.
California style. And then I'll put a little
(33:14):
bit of rockabilly in it, you know, and
it just kinda blends well so that the
future,
you the to answer your question, is to
record
our original tunes. It's been a dream of
mine. I've worked in studios. My, my associate's
degree is from the Art Institute of Dallas.
I did music recording as part of my
training.
And,
so I wanna get in the studio. We
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wanna record these songs
because we wanna we want the the art
form to be out there. Right. I'm not
looking at making You have a studio good.
You know, Ray Martel's been on this with
Redwood Records so many times. He's been on
the show. Oh, yeah. I need to With
the Black GTO. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Reach out
to him on Facebook. He's on Facebook. Absolutely.
Are you one of those bands that, you
know, play at the open mic and it's
like, wait. What just happened? Where do those
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people come from? You know, they sound professional.
No. Right. You're a fool. Right? Very nice.
Now what is your favorite venue in town?
What This is What do you think, Vince?
Here?
I love Chetco.
It's hard to beat. It's it's
it's big. It's got a nice stage. It's
got a nice vibe. We get a good
feedback from the the audience. But you also
play right next door with Misty Mountain. Have
you? I love Misty Mountain. God. That was
(34:18):
a total difference. There's such a wonderful Intimate
is the word. Right. You know? And then
just above is oxen free. I mean Yep.
It's it's Oxen free is above. Where else
do they play here in town? Let's see.
Those are the three. Right? The Augustine. Augustine.
Augustine. You've been to Augustinos.
That's right. That's a phone number. And whatever
happened to +1 01 has been bought? The
Yeah. They're going to music now. We haven't
(34:40):
played there yet. Oh, yeah. You know, it's
on our list. And we've got, you know,
a lot of these places on our list.
Vince really I mean, when we first got
we first started, Vince is like, we're we
gotta go to mister Ed's. Yeah. Miss Ed's
up and yeah. Tell him a story. Yes.
Tell him about mister Ed's. Oh, that's that's
a great I mean, just a great venue,
and Ed is a super guy and great
(35:00):
sound system, and it's it's a it's a
fun place. You know? It's I I wish
it wasn't so far away. Yeah. Right. I
think, you know, everybody go there more. It's
not a bad drive. And then I saw
Beautiful. We saw I was on your Facebook
site, before the show. A couple weeks ago,
I saw you have pictures of you sitting
up there with mister Edward. His guitar is
all over the city. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's
So Funky Monkey plays. Yeah. Are there any
(35:21):
big events coming up soon? Yeah.
Matter of fact, I got it right here.
So the next one, we're gonna play down
at the, the harbor there. I think they
call it Good Vibrations or good no. What
is it? August 9. Yeah. Yeah. It's, not
What do they call it? Well, wait a
minute. Not pirate people, but the but the
part in the Over heart of the coast.
Yeah.
(35:42):
It's all like Foxy. Foxy. Yeah. Yeah. And
I think that's the alternative place to go.
Yes. Right. Yeah. And I think it's great.
It's a lot of the local musicians getting
together to support each other. And,
that's all it was like here. That's why
it was yeah. We we went to both.
We we could both. Shark Tones, you know,
those Kearny and all those guys. You know?
There's so much, talent in this town. Right?
And on our coast, it's amazing. And so
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there's there's plenty Any others that you wanna
Absolutely. You know? So we're gonna be doing
that. And then, of course, we talked Misty
Mountain is gonna be the weekend after that.
So on the sixteenth, we're gonna be right
over here at Misty Mountain jamming out, you
know? Is that like a Friday, Saturday, That
one is a Saturday. Saturday. It's a great
day, and I think we usually do. It
depends on how late the sun's setting these
days, but it's either I think it's a
(36:23):
or it starts at seven. Yeah. I think
that's what they're starting at. And then, we've
got in September, we're gonna be doing Augustinos.
Me? That's on the fourteenth. That's gonna be
a Sunday there. And then, man, we're looking
forward to Mr. Ed's on the September 26.
Oh, so you booked,
Yeah. Right. And those are just some we
we try we we've played a lot. Now
we're kinda getting some of our new songs
(36:44):
together. Right? And so rehearsal is important for,
you know, for Vince and I. Right? Yeah.
We rehearse a lot. We do. And
for me, I love being in the rehearsal
space because it's our, you know, friendship, and
we're Right. Putting everything together, and we get
excited about our songs. And that comes across
on the stage. I think that's what the
part of it is. So we we practice,
and we enjoy that. So I think this
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time right now, we didn't book up a
lot. We had some opportunities, but we said,
let's let's get our music together so that
next time we go out, we've got more
originals. And I think that's what we're bringing.
We've I wrote five or six songs just
recently. K. Can private people also hire you?
Oh, absolutely. You're available for high. Private
parties, weddings, you play mostly original work. Mhmm.
Yeah. Right? Yeah. We'll throw in a few,
(37:27):
you know, if you'd like a song, you
know, but, yeah, you know, I said, you
know We're gonna play only original here. I'm
not an alcoholic powered jukebox. You know? I've
you know, I I like my original tunes.
Power jukebox. I like that. Alright. I wanna
give the signal to Ray over here because
we're approaching that time where we're gonna switch
from the
studio,
microphones right here tuned in to our guest
(37:50):
to their music playing. So at this point,
I wanna tell our our our guest here,
Rob and Vince and,
and Sable
that we are getting ready for that. And
while they're doing that, I'm gonna go back
here and read you something a few more
people that have are supporting this show,
here on this,
(38:11):
Doc and Jacques show. There it is. Where
is it? There it is.
We have Nick Rael. Thank you, Nick Rael,
for your five zero one c three project
partnership for the Performing Arts Center or PPA,
soon to be constructed in Crested City and
serving all of our region. And stay tuned
because there's gonna be a big events, the
some big music events happening in the Crest
(38:32):
City area under the They're way right. Of
who? Nick Rail, a mover and shaker. We
also wanna thank the reimagined Crescent Harbor Art
Gallery in Crescent City. They are anchored in
the harbor right next to the boats, and
we saw those boats kinda rising today. It
was so weird, right, with the Little tiny
stars. Tsunami. Mhmm. Did you see that video?
Yeah. With it coming through? Yeah. Yeah. There
(38:53):
was a it was coming in pretty darn
good.
Also wanna give a big thanks, to our
region's only bowling center, Tsunami Lanes on 101
in Midtown.
Gigi called me as sharp as a bowling
ball.
Oops. That was okay. And of course, always,
doctor Gigi, thank you for your support on
(39:13):
this station.
Everybody, we appreciate it. Oh, did I say
check on medical anesthetics? Yes, you did. I
did? Okay. That's where Morgan, that's where she's
at. She can put her in a resume
there. Yeah. And Theresa's leaving.
And Theresa's leaving? One of your favorite, folks.
Cassandra there. Yeah. I know. Oh, that's right.
That's right. Cassandra's there. Shouted out for her
twice. Okay.
(39:34):
Alright. So what are we gonna hear on
your first song?
Yeah. Robin?
You know, we talked about the Louisiana influence.
So this first this first song we're gonna
do is called Between the Devil and New
Orleans. Alright. Okay. Now what's Spawn this? Exactly.
Devil's Spawn. Well, there's an old,
Ella Fitzgerald song called Between the Devil and
(39:55):
the Deep Blue Sea.
And that inspired my thought of this, and
then I was thinking I was reading a
lot of Hemingway. I I I love Hemingway.
He's one of my favorite
authors that I you know, Florida Keys. I
was a captain in the Florida Keys. That's
a whole another story doc. But,
yeah. You know, and so I wrote this
in the sense of what if, you know,
(40:17):
Hemingway Hemingway or or or Zane Grey, which
was from Oregon here. What if he wrote
this blues song? And so this kind of
is
his terminology, his words,
was called Between the Devil and New Orleans.
It's got that little gumbo sound. Here at
the KCOW Studios, we're joined by
Bob Clift, Vince Jesse, Morgan
(40:38):
Clift, and, of course,
Sable. Morgan Clift. Pardon me. Sable. I got
all. Silly bids clift. I'm messing it up.
I'm sorry. Okay. With black dirt gumbo, folks,
take it off. Here we go.
(41:17):
Been the darkest moment. Don't need your lies.
Don't need your god. No tyranny.
This maelstrom's
mine, just leave two.
Don't need no sympathy.
(41:38):
I just need a connection,
a quiet presence, a gentle touch while I
ride this pain.
Just set that anchor and hold it steady
(42:04):
and
you all
lead.
That dirty water won't wash away my sins
and won't get me clean.
I'm stuck somewhere between the devil
(42:26):
and New
Orleans.
That dirty water won't wash away my sins,
and it won't get me clean.
(43:06):
Don't take away my pain or try to
wash away
all my sins.
You see, tough times are hard. It feels
so bad, but there's two it's shouting.
(43:27):
I got a dilemma, and I'm in a
tight spot, Lift up where'd you end.
Tough times don't flap. Tough people do.
All the way down to the end.
All the way to the end,
baby.
(43:48):
You see, I'm stuck somewhere
between the devil
and the Orleans.
That dirty water won't wash away my sins,
and it sure won't get a flame.
(44:10):
The air starts somewhere
between the devil and
(44:59):
Seeing those darkest hours will I live my
way? Or will you be here with me?
Just reach out and touch my hand, wait
for the dawn to come, I see.
(45:19):
You see, it's love that reminds me of
who I am and who I was, but
sometimes I seem to forget.
These scars remind me of what I did
and how I survived with no regret. No
regret, baby.
Here we go.
(45:40):
See, I stuck somewhere
between the devil
and New Orleans.
That dirty water won't wash away my sick,
and it sure won't get me clean.
(46:00):
You see, I'm
stuck somewhere
between the devil
and New Orleans.
That dirty water horn washed away my sins
and it woke and it went.
(47:13):
Last time.
That was the LP version. That is. That
is. That is. That that's not gonna be
played. That's not three zero five. Live performance.
Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. All original stuff. The
motion's in there, man. Good words. Thank you.
(47:35):
Good vibe. Everything happening good.
We have about,
actually about eight, ten minutes. So we'd be
wanna abbreviate
Our front corner. Yes. To home. Yeah. Next
to, something that we're looking for. Gets out
there. Alright. What is the next song that
we're coming up to? And and while you're
preparing for the next song, I wanna let
you know. You're found all over, Black Dirt
(47:55):
Gumbo on Facebook. Yep. Facebook.
And remember, it's g u m b a
u x. Spelled that strangely.
Blackdirtgumbo.com.
That's our website.
We got everything on there. We got our,
you know, how to find us, phone number,
email.
It's all there. Also where we're playing, it's
got videos that we've we've been playing.
(48:16):
So check out blackdirtgumbo.com,
gumbeaux.
Right. Rob Clef is putting out that message
right now. What's the next song we're hearing?
Yeah. This one's called Losing You.
This one was gonna you know, refers us
back to some of the other songs that
I've written. This one came in, it's one
of those things, I sat down one morning
and it came like a bolt of lightning.
(48:37):
I literally wrote this in like
about ten minutes. Well I'm like, Let's do
this. So - Abbreviated a bit if we're
gonna do two more, so I'm gonna do
this one. -Yeah, we'll go through this. -Yeah.
Okay. So here we go. -All right. Little
hair,
black dirt gumbo, k c I w.
(49:14):
I turn away and I think of you.
I hear those echoes of words untrue.
Your tender ears hurt feelings blue.
I should have told you I love you.
(49:34):
I can't recall a thing that day
In your eyes I see the way
The pain makes you
(50:00):
I sing that song a special way.
I wish I was right here next to
you.
I never thought about losing
you. Alright,
Vince.
(50:36):
Time moves along, I'm old and gray
My poor heart has more to say
These tough times just can't be undone.
I know I disappointed
one.
(50:56):
I turned around, I
saw you there. Your smiling face, you're all
burned
here.
You would embrace me just as I am.
Love for me, I'm a broken man.
(51:17):
Every time I go out and play,
I sing that song a special way.
I wish I was right here next to
you.
I never thought about losing you.
(51:58):
Hello.
Oh my gosh. There we go. Quite a
cute. Hi. I'm giving you a hug. Yes.
I'm emotional. I mean Oh my god. We're
on the radio, folks. And as you know,
I think once you you have to break
the barrier of emotional
because that's what transmits over the radio. You
can't be seen. So we're everything's in the
voice and the emotions, and you played that
perfectly. That hit it. I mean, it really
(52:19):
transmitted
emotion. Okay. We do have,
six and a half minutes. So let's finish
up with what's this last song gonna be?
And we can finish it within a minute
or two. And if if I start swinging
my hand We'll be good. Alright. We're we're
good. We got this. So so the song
the the words here is,
I sing that song a special way. I
wish I was right here next to you.
(52:40):
K. This is the song called I Wish.
This is the one that Sable learned.
And, yeah. Nope. This is the one when
we first started we did it when she
first came out. And k. Cool. Watching her
when we were doing it, I was just
like, oh my gosh. This is amazing. You
know. Wow. There was a connection Yeah. You
know. Right on. Let's hear it. I wish.
I wish.
(53:00):
Blacker
Gumbo.
(53:28):
Well, I wish I had a silk shirt
on the color of the sky.
Wish I lived in a brick house down
by the ocean sun
And I wish I sailed a tall ship
on the ocean so blue
All I ever wanted was to be right
here
Right here next to you
Next to you
(53:53):
Next to
you. Oh, next
to
you. Right here next to you.
(55:24):
Now I don't have that silk shirt, but
I can still see the sky.
And I don't live in that brick house,
but I live down by the ocean side.
And I don't sell on a tall ship,
but the ocean's just as blue.
All I ever wanted was to be right
here, right here next to you.
Next to you.
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Next to you.
I love the sound of your name,
standing next to you.
(56:14):
Sitting next to you.
Alright, Vince. Take us home.
(56:38):
Alright, Shockey. We wanna thank you for letting
us come out here to your show
tonight.
Woah.
(56:59):
No. Hey, Chris. Block in it. Dirtgumppo.com
is a great way to get a hold
of this,
incredibly tipped,
talented group,
with,
Rob Clift and Vince Jesse and Visitor, Sable.
When are you heading home, Sable?
I think I'm That's okay. We're here. We're
picking up. August 8. Okay. She leaves him
(57:20):
soon. When are you gonna come back? Sooner
than pretty soon? Like, next summer. Alright. No.
You'll be back. You'll be back for Christmas
and spring break. We got lots of stuff.
Oh, yeah. I'll play when I can. Yeah.
Black Dirt Dumbo, thank you so much. Thank
you, Josh. Thank you. I mean, and you
will Doctor Reed, thanks for having us. Yeah.
I loved I loved all your your stuff
about the larynx and the Yeah. The
(57:40):
Lorax.
Larynx.
Right. Right.
Okay. Doctor Gigi told me to watch my
drinking,
so now I drink in front of a
mirror.
Right. K. And he did both Then you
go and we'll leave him for next time.
We only have a couple seconds to go.
Hey, well Your jokes. Come on. This morning,
I asked Siri why I'm so unpopular and
single, and Siri activated the self portrait
(58:02):
Cameron.
You brought the new restaurant in town, guys?
No. What what's that? Called Karma. You they
they don't have a menu. You just, get
what you deserve.
Okay. I think that's about it, folks. Yes.
Okay. So we're done. Sorry. It was great
music. That was wonderful. I'm glad we You
have been listening to the Doc and Jacques
radio variety show on KCAW
(58:24):
one hundred point seven FM in Brookings, Oregon.
We hope you have enjoyed the show as
much as we have.
We sure have. Thank you again, Black Dirt
Gumbo. We wanna thank Tombo Zachary Simon for
their engineering wizardry. If you know of anybody
who'd like to be on the show, reach
out to us,
by going to dockandshock@gmail.com.
Thanks so so much, everybody. Peace and love,
(58:44):
Sable. Good travels. Nice seeing you. Talking to
you in Morgan. Thank you, everybody. Bye, guys.
Bye. Thank you.
Welcome, everyone. Far and near, you have now
entered the cosmic
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of ACOW
one hundred point seven FM in Brookings, Oregon.
Thank you for tuning into this week's fabulous
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as always, Jacques Kepner. How are you today,
Jacques Hippo? I'm doing fine, doctor. Greetings, everyone.
(00:33):
A big shout out to our sound engineers
and helpers in the studio,
Ray Simon and Tom Bozak and then the
listeners,
Linda outside listening carefully to our show.
And then there's other people. I saw Michael
Gorris in here. We got a we got
a we got a good studio full of
people. Good show lined up for you today.
Welcome to the Doc and Jacques Radio Variety
Show. I wanna mention that you are hearing
(00:55):
this live show
right now
on KCIW in Brookings, Oregon. That said, the
same show will be broadcast
next week exactly one week from now,
each and every Wednesday morning on KZZH
ninety six point seven FN and Eureka Humboldt
at guess what time? What? 8AM.
(01:15):
Well, when you And then a few hours
later, I had 1PM on my old alma
mater Be up by then?
Wait a minute. I'm up. You get up
early most of the time. I'm up with
you. And then at my old alma mater,
KFUG one zero one, point one FM in
Crescent City, California, both those are community radio
stations like KCIW.
(01:36):
So now you know, doctor Gigi and I
have got your
coasts covered.
Okay. Before we introduce our incredibly talented and
interesting
musical
muse
Musician? Musician. Musician.
Okay.
Bringing it. Yeah.
Doctor Gigi,
is gonna talk about something that you say
(01:57):
you've talked about three times? Two. Two. It's
the third one today? Because we've had nearly
90 shows. And in that 90 shows,
almost coming up two years Alright. It's vocal
cords.
You're talking about the vocal cords, are you?
Is that what it is? Yeah. But not
like I did before when all the things
that can go wrong. So today, we're just
gonna actually basically talk about the anatomy
(02:20):
of Of the vocal cords. The vocal cords.
Yeah. They're pretty weird things. Right? They're pretty
strange. Yeah. They're pretty strange. So they sit
in
something called larynx or a voice box. It's
a larynx, not larynx. I still hear it.
Larynx.
Larynx.
So which is the voice box where we
make the sound, and they have the position
(02:42):
they look like a v,
where the point is at the front directly
behind the Adam's apple.
See them, but you have because you've had
cadavers and you've looked at bodies and Yeah.
And I have actually looked I had a
scope one time and, actually, I saw my
own little local courts.
It's pretty cute. And they were screaming like
they do at me?
(03:03):
So,
they are no. You're supposed to say, hey.
Do girls have Adam's apples? Do Adam they
don't they don't have Adam's apples. No. They
have Eve apples. Right? So the medical name
for Adam's apple is the so called laryngeal
prominence.
Who? It is visit this is the visible
bulge in front of the neck that is
formed by the so called
(03:25):
thyroid cartilage.
Hint hint. That's where this thyroid sits. And
it's all in the neck.
And and it protects the the the voice
box, the larynx for men and women. So
women also have
the so called Adam's apple. Pictures of them
are And and do we have a, like,
a a we've got a bunch of bones
in our neck. Right? So they're there to
(03:46):
kinda protect us us or not? We have
seven
cervical
vertebrae.
Oh. And then we have one hyoid bone.
Wouldn't you know a doctor? So you're possibly
in the wrong And they cannibal not the
same because cannibals, they always said cannibals said
that the best tasty meat
is around the neck.
And the kitten, that's kinda strange. But do
(04:07):
you know do you know why cannibals,
what why cannibals don't eat clowns? Why? Because
they taste funny.
Got some chuckles out of some Okay. Alright.
That's fine. Okay. So if anybody of the
musicians anywhere around
knows how the reed
instruments work,
that's how the vocal codes cords work. You
(04:27):
put air around it and then they kind
of start to vibrate.
I heard of harmonica.
The the vocal cords measure about
1.5 centimeters in males, which is about
a little more than a half an inch,
and 1.2 centimeters for females, which is a
little bit less than half an inch. There
it is. So they're different size. Right? So
(04:48):
the different size results in the men's voice
sounding lower, deeper. Deeper like mine.
Maybe even up to an octave than the
women's.
What part of your body makes the best
musical instrument, doctor?
Do you know? Do you know? What? Your
nose.
Because you can pick it and blow it.
It's a great instrument.
(05:10):
The vocal cords are the v shaped ones
in front with the point, and they are
stretching
horizontally. They're tense. And so when they Right.
When they open and close, it's kind of
a car's windshield
wipers.
They are attached in the middle and then
They're so strange. Right? They're weird things and
somehow our voices
(05:31):
can be heard. They are smooth
muscle. They're made out of smooth muscle. So
there it's a muscle, but smooth meaning we
cannot actually actively tell them what to do.
It just happens by us putting
air around it, and then we learn how
to make words with it. That's when you
dry out. It's just Kinda get coarse at
such. So you can dry, you know what's
(05:53):
the leading, what the leading cause of dry
skin is?
Guess what?
Towels. Yeah. Towels
are the number one leading cause of dry
skin.
I'm kidding you. I always say because I'm
a doctor.
Do you know what's really odd, doctor?
What? Every other number.
(06:13):
Okay.
I'll let you get on with your show.
Thank you. Thank you for allowing.
So the vocal cords vibrate like the reed
I have to do with my Your last
name is Reed. Right?
Instruments. So get this
a thousand times a second.
Woah. Right? Just like my thumb on scrolling
when I get excited.
When you go and see the reels. Uh-huh.
(06:33):
Whispering is more tiring for the vocal cords
than talking. Whispering
is more tiring than
Yeah. Because the extra air that we have
to put through there so they don't vibrate
louder, dries them out and without a towel.
Do you know how I criticize doctor Gigi,
everyone?
How do you do that? Very, very quiet.
(06:55):
I whisper. I whisper.
Now there's another word that we need to
word, or What have we got? And that's
the glottis.
And, really, a lot of people know about
the epiglottis.
Glottis. Okay. So what is the glottis? I'll
tell you what the glottis is. The glottis
is actually the space. It's a non
thing. It's the space between
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the vocal cords and the the area below.
K. So that is
a space that has a name. And the
epiglottis
is basically like a lid that goes down
onto the space. Like, I always envision it
like a,
a stein a beer stein that has the
lid going down. That's kinda what the epigraphy
blood is. You're German.
You love your beer.
(07:38):
Yeah. So that's all I have for the
for the No. That's all that That's it.
Oh, look. Then I gotta
tell everybody. I went
to the doctor, and I said, doctor, everybody
hates me. Doctor G Jesus says, don't be
ridiculous.
Not everyone has met you yet.
And I also broke my arm in two
places. Doctor G Jesus said, stop going to
(07:59):
those two places.
I find it ironic that the colors red,
white, and blue stand for freedom until they're
flashing behind you.
Okay.
We filled in a few jokes that I
normally don't do, but I think we have
quite an interesting crowd here. I appreciate you
talking about the vocal cords. Mhmm. They're still
(08:20):
one of the strangest things I think. Right.
Yeah. We are like aliens. I mean, we're
made up of just
amazing
amazing, things
that make up our body. And the vocal
cord has to be one of the most
incredible things.
We're here on the radio. You're hearing us
through your ears but we are speaking.
The fairways with the vocal I'm trying to
(08:40):
be a doctor. I'm trying to be serious.
All right.
We have musicians
in the house today.
We have let me pull up some questions
here before I get into this one moment
here.
We have three guests but then we were
just joined by a fourth guest. And these
are very interesting people. These are people that
(09:01):
many of us in our local regional
corner of the world, our coastal area, are
familiar with. And they are someone that's been
on our radar for quite a while. And
that those people are with dirt black dirt
gumbo. You got it. And how do you
spell g u m b e a u
x? That's right. Let me go x at
the end of it. Alright.
Where would we be without music? If we
(09:22):
did not have music, we would be
kind of lost, I think, as a species.
What is more emotional when you think about
it than that nostalgic song that comes on
and touches your heart, like very few things
can. So music is the way we communicate,
many of us, and the way we,
well, we enjoy life. So without any more
(09:42):
verbiage verbiage from me, I would like to
introduce the members
of the Black Dirt Combo.
We've had Rob Cliff on my left. Hey,
Rob. Hey. How's it going, Rob? Peace and
love. Good to see you. Thanks for having
us out here. Well, Scott finally got you
in. Yeah. Absolutely.
And then we next to him, we have
Vince Jesse. Hey, Vince. How's it going, man?
Good to see you. Glad to be here.
(10:03):
You're all you're all man, you're holding your
guitar. You got your harmonica there.
And, next to you hey. Next to you,
Rob, would you tell us who our third
guest is? Is? Yeah. Absolutely. So we got
joined with my daughter, Sable Clift. Hey, Sable.
And she's been here for her summer vacation
and, teaching her bass. And she has joined
the band for the summer and will be
(10:23):
playing with us today. On. Right on. And
we just hear you just celebrated your 20
birthday, dude.
I believe Hey. Hey. Easy jock.
Alright? Don't rush it.
Oh, no. I won't. And then we just
had another visitor came in, and we that's
Vince Jesse's daughter,
Morgan. Hey, Morgan. And you're kind of over
(10:45):
there in the corner. Doesn't have the There
she goes. Your voice is on on forever,
forever captured there on radio. Welcome. And you
are visiting from where? Was this I'm visiting
from Los Angeles a couple weeks ago. Los
Angeles. LA. Yes. Woo hoo. And you just
graduated and got something on what did you
graduate from? Yes. I just became a respiratory
care practitioner
(11:05):
officially.
Wow. That is really, really, really good. Congratulations
on that. Respiratory is we need. And that's
right. So Very cool. If you ever consider
coming up here. Right? I'm sure we have
jobs. Yeah. And we're we're Your doctor here
could put you in a steer you in
the the right
direction. Okay. We're gonna start, we normally start
off with Sable, the,
(11:27):
the,
well, the less than 21 year old today,
but we're not. We're gonna go to dad
over here Alright. And and get some questions
from dad. And Gigi, you you you start
off. You ask. Alright. So you already told
him the name. So, Rob, where are you
from? Where did you grow up? Absolutely. Well,
thank you for having us on here, doctor
Reed. Thank you. And Jacques, Black Dirt Gumbo,
(11:47):
right here in the house. We're excited to
be here. And no, I hail from Texas.
So,
Tejas. Tejas. Yeah. North Texas growing up a
lot in my life.
Spent a lot of time on the, the
the the Red River border, if you will,
there between, you know, Oklahoma and and Texas.
And, but recently, the last fifteen years in
the Austin area, and, I like to tell
(12:08):
people I'm I'm from LaGrange because everyone remembers
that name. On Bonvoy. That's it. That's the
that's the town. So LaGrange, Texas, I got
to know it,
know it well. And,
yeah, played lots of great music down there.
So that's where I'm hailing from. And, now
that we've moved here to Brookings, I can
get to say I'm I'm from Brookings. Right?
Right. Yeah. Right. On. And how long ago
did you arrive in Brookings? One year ago.
(12:29):
Yeah. It was a matter of fact. Yeah.
One year. Oh, my god. That's been here
for you. About this time last year,
my partner Cassandra and I Both Cassandra play
with her. Absolutely.
You work with Cassandra. Oh, yeah. Right? Have
mentioned that. Hey,
Cassandra. She's the reason I'm out here. I'm
just following a dream. Right? There you go.
And, we hopped in our little, Casita, which
(12:51):
is a little travel trailer, and we eighteen
days across The United States traveling. It was
fantastic. And we landed right here in Brookings.
And I I don't think I would ask
to be anywhere else than the Brookings. You
know, it's hard it's hard to beat. Right?
Totally is a hard place to beat.
How about you, Vince? Tell us a little
bit about where you're coming from, my friend.
Well, I am from Hawthorne, California down in
(13:12):
Southern California, you know, home to the Beach
Boys. There you go. Also home. My mom
went to school with them. Really? Yeah. I
went to the same high school, but, you
know, twenty some years later.
But,
yeah. Yeah. So, you know, just kind of
a fun little area just and then moved
up here about
seven years ago.
(13:32):
Now how come you moved up here? What
was the just kinda got tired of down
there. I've been there all my life, and
it's so crowded, and, you know, it's wonderful
up here. It is. Yeah. Isn't it cool?
And you and your kids, both of you
guys, both your daughters get to check this
place out. Right? I mean, it's so and
this beautiful weather
and the good vibes that are happening here.
Now one of our sponsors is, is,
(13:55):
Advanced Airlines, and they fly on a Hawthorne.
Oh, yeah. Oh, my god. Yeah. Three of
mine. They fly on across the city. Right?
Love it. Love that airline. So and then
also,
they're three minutes from
LAX
Hawthorne. So
is Hawthorne just completely
saturated with people? How many people I don't
know the population anymore. I mean, I didn't
(14:15):
live there. I lived in El Segundo before
I moved out here, but I grew up
in Hawthorne from, you know, or all my
life until 19 or so. Wow.
And it's a great little place. It's just
just like LA. It just is Yeah. It's
a big continuum.
Yeah. People just keep coming and, you know
Right. Right on. Alright. Sable, it's your turn.
You are not 21, not even close. You're
(14:36):
14? Yep. 14. Wait a minute. She told
me you're 15 the other day. Oh my
god. Oh, man.
So where where did you grow up? Or
where are you growing up? So,
I was originally born in Florida Keys, but
I was raised in Galveston, Texas.
Mhmm. It's a little island close to Houston.
(14:58):
But now
I'm, visiting here, my dad, in Brookings. Yeah.
You can see a topic here of the
coastal living right now. I love the coast.
Specific. She was born in Key Largo. Yeah.
I mean Largo.
Right on. Never been far from the coast
for more than a year, and I I
love it. Galveston, when you fly into Houston,
you pass over the islands. Right? I mean,
(15:19):
this is there are islands out there. People
don't know. It's an island. 100%. Yeah. Galveston,
but And Houston, obviously. There's quite a few
oil tankers and things like that. Uh-huh. It's
okay. Big, big things. Alright. Was originally the
capital of Texas. It was. Galveston.
There you go. Oh, man. Now we're going
back to get little Jimmy Webb. Sable, how
do you like it out here? Out in
(15:39):
Brookings? Yeah. I I'm loving it. I it's
just the perfect weather. And
I it's just I've loved
up here. Being in this coastal? Yeah. I,
I lived in Washington for a year. Washington
State? Yes. Washington State. And
I moved back to Galveston. And ever since,
I've been like, I wanna get back out.
(16:00):
I've just I I love it up here.
This this is where I belong. Alright. I
wish my kids would have enthusiasm.
Right. I'm a lucky I'm a lucky dad.
Really? You are a lucky
father. And how about you, Morgan? Were you
really gonna be hanging out down south for
a long time? Or are you gonna spend
a little more time up here? I I
plan to move out of there pretty soon.
I spent my whole life down there, and
(16:20):
I love it, but it's not the end
goal. I really do like it up here.
Okay. Like I said, you got a super
connection. Here she is. Right? Absolutely. Right here,
miss doctor. Well, that is fascinating. And
let's go to the basics. Rob,
tell us where Black Dirt Gumbo came out
this year. The name? Absolutely. Yeah. And and
(16:41):
the name has a special part of what
we're doing here. So, you know, like I
said, Jacques, you know,
Austin, Texas, you know, that that area in
Texas, just grew up there. And my dad
was a John Deere dealer. So if you
can imagine in Texas growing up, you know,
I grew up around machinery, out in farms.
I wasn't a farm boy because I lived
in town, but I sure did enjoy getting
(17:02):
out on those big tractors and combines. And
my dad used to tell a story. He'd
go around looking for me at the the
dealership, and he couldn't find me. I was
so afraid
that he'd lost me, and I'd be asleep
in one of those big cabs of a
of a of a combine somewhere. Combine. Just
napping. Half a million dollars. Oh, yeah. Oh,
yeah. This is back in the eighties, you
know. And Oh, they never were worth 200,000.
But I grew up listening
(17:24):
to these farmers talk about the dirt, the
soil.
And the the name of the soil in
the Texas area is they call it black
dirt. It's it's a black dirt area. So
unlike
in Southern Oklahoma, just across the border with
the Red River, it's it's red. So they
call the the there's some bands out there
the Red Dirt Plowboys or the red you've
(17:44):
heard of Red Clay Strays? There that's a
I've heard of Red Clay Strays. So the
Red Clay is that dirt from that, Oklahoma
area. Well, where we were, that dirt is
real clay, so it's called gumbo. And the
farmers always called it black dirt gumbo. It
just stuck in my head, and I've heard
musicians kinda refer to the black dirt gumbo.
And I just knew at some point, you
know, it'd refer back to what I'm doing
(18:05):
and and the music that I'm singing because
it all comes from,
you know, from the heart. The music that
I'm singing about is what the way I
grew up, and so Black Dirt Goes over
the middle of the middle. Call that they
they call the earth gumbo? Absolutely. The clay.
The clay called
You know, the you know, in Louisiana, where
I live, gumbo is a It's a food.
Absolutely.
I thought that and it's spelled that way
(18:25):
too. Right? I mean, the Louisianans place Well,
the reason everything with An E A U
X. Yeah. That's the French, you know, spelling.
The the beaux, B E A U X.
And Mhmm. You know, I picked that because,
homage to some of my background of growing
up,
as a musician.
Bobby Bergeron, one of these, just Cajun boys,
(18:45):
that I grew up playing music with. He
was much older than me. I was just
16 year old boy. Here's this older guy
playing, just rocking out guitars,
and he invited me to play with his
band when I was 16. And he really
taught me music. So it's an homage to
the the Louisiana side of my music, and
I do play accordion and things like that.
Yeah. So the gumbo had to be spelled
correctly. Now not to say they don't spell
(19:07):
it, you know, the regular gumbo way, but
we decided
it's gonna be gumbo. We're gonna go with
the traditional phrase. Hey. I gotta ask this
because it's a little bit out of order.
But, hey. You've been here one year. I
didn't know that you've been here one year.
I thought you'd been here one year. One
year. And you're also the manager up at
the The gallery? The Manley Art Center. Yeah.
That's right. You've kinda landed both feet and
just starting to You know, I I lived
(19:27):
a charmed life. Yeah. You know? Like I
said, I came here with my my partner,
Cassandra. She got a fantastic opportunity to work
out here, and we were just man, we're
fed up with the heat, you know, the
Texas heat. None. We wanted to do something
a little different.
And when I landed here, I was looking
for a job, you know, outdoors, education is
what I do a lot of. But the
Manly Arts Center just kinda showed up, and
it's a perfect match. And it so it
(19:49):
was kind of a meant to be kinda
situation, and it's really allowed
us, Black Dirt Gumbo with Vince, and, you
know, us getting together and playing music because
it's, you know, it's right here in town.
I'm not driving somewhere to go work. I'm
not commuting. I'm right here in the community.
So working in the community, I see people
from Right. We see you on Thursday night.
It's, Thursday night open mic. Right? And Mhmm.
(20:10):
Yeah. Checo Brewery.
No. Now, Vince, you're not from
Teja. You're not No. So so how does
the gumbo jive with you? Well,
he came up with the name, and I
was like, well, that's pretty cool. You know?
It's like I mean, because I I wasn't
coming up with anything.
I I don't think you were here two
months when we met. Yeah. I mean, we
were both just playing the open mics in
(20:32):
the area, and we
kinda That's how you met him. Since I
saw Vince playing, I'm like, I gotta play
with this. And so we started talking and
we got together and we're like, you know
what? This is good.
You know, we we have a lot of
the same
lines that cross, you know, in our music.
So how long have you been sorry. No.
It's a How long have you been playing
then? Yeah.
(20:52):
Us together, we've been playing, I think, since
November. I mean Yeah. No. I mean, at
all. Oh, I've been playing gosh. I think
I soon as I could touch the piano,
I started playing. And my and I remember
the first song I learned on the piano.
I was listening to cartoons and it was,
the Pink Panther thing song. Dada. Dada. Dada.
Dada. Dada. Dada. Dada. Dada. Dada. Dada. Dada.
Dada. Dada. Dada. Dada. Dada. Dada. Dada. Dada.
Dada.
Dada. Steps up, you know, and I I
(21:13):
learned it. My mom heard me playing on
the little piano. So she got me into
lessons, and I learned,
you know, classical piano. And then I went
on and studied music in college. Oh, okay.
Yeah. Music's
strong. Do you read music like most of
our guests cannot? Yep. I read all the
black dots. Wow. I resemble that remark.
So do you read Midnight Institute? I do
(21:34):
not. No. That's okay. You just play by
ear. You're one of those guys that are
just gifted. You could just play it over
ear and remember things. Things. I was given
a guitar in 1980,
I think,
and then I just kinda started playing with
people. It was one of the old Beach
Boys guitars? No. It was a little yeah.
I still have it. Imagine that. I still
have it. I have everything.
It's a little acoustic
crappy
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guitar, and I I just started playing it.
And then I just progressively, you know I
always say I started out with nothing. I
still have most of it left. Yeah.
So, Sable, you grew up in a big
musician household then. Yep.
So did you take what was your first
instrument?
Guitar. Bass guitar. Yeah. So the first still
(22:16):
playing? The first instrument I really got was
a guitar. Mhmm. Electric guitar up with my,
dad. We were,
up visiting my grandparents,
and I had been playing this old little
bad guitar that my brother had had for
a while. And my dad was like, well,
you're playing that a lot, so we can
get you an actual guitar. Good.
(22:37):
Nice. So I got a guitar, and I
was playing that for a while. And I've
kinda fallen off the guitar, but up here
with the bass, I've really found my
my instrument. Yeah. I saw you a couple
weeks ago at,
at the mic, open mic. Right? That's what
you Yeah. I didn't know. I said, hey.
They got not. You had, Troy there. You
had multiple people working with you. And I
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noticed you, and I said, that gal is
playing The bass is guitar. Well, Jacques, I
told her, you know the difference between a
bass player and a guitar player. Right? What
is that? Well, a bass player, is on
their way to a gig. Yeah. The bass
player always gets more gigs.
That's kinda true. Right? I mean, in a
way. Alright. Can you read can you read
notes?
(23:19):
I can
see when the notes go up. Right? Yeah.
Mostly She's learning. She's learning. Learning. Yeah. It's
not how about you, Morgan? Do you play
any instruments at all? Yeah. I mean,
I play just about everything except guitar, bass.
I played percussion, the drums.
Wow. You can play drums. So you got
the beat. You got the temp ins? You
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didn't tell me she played drums. It's been
a while, but I can't do music. I
did it all through middle school and high
school. It's just fun.
Cool. Alright. You're in the band. What was
your once you've been here up there, the
band is Not the you played the The
Glock and Oh, the Glock. The clock.
We should be in this drum. You've been
playing with glocks?
Yeah. I thought she's in LA, you know.
So
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Wow. Very cool. What else are the questions
you got real quick? Yeah. Well,
what kind of genre you said? A little
bit John. Homage, but your so
I I can answer that question. Yeah. It's
more it's it's broader than that, I'm I
feel. Well and I was gonna make the
reference, you know, the name black dirt gumbo.
The gumbo part of it is kind of
what we are. If you've ever made a
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gumbo, which you gotta start off with a
nice roux. Yeah. You know? So and I've
made plenty of gumbo and but it's kind
of whatever you have. You know? It's you
build that gumbo with what's leftover traditionally. Yeah.
And, so
we're kind of building our own gumbo. I
mean, we got Vince with this California
thing that melds right into especially our vocals.
And I'm a fan of Crosby, Stills, and
Nash. Yeah. I love it. Harmonizing. Right? And
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Yeah. But I'm pulling in that Texas feel
from, some of my influencer people like,
I'd say Robert O'Keen,
Guy Clark, Townes Van Zant. If you ever
listen to those old troubadours, the Texas troubadours,
that's where, you know, singer songwriters, I really
pull from that and I'm Those are some
of your big influences. Yeah. And I'll tell
you one of my biggest influence, I used
to say for the longest time, I'm a
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closet Billy Joel fan. But if you if
you watch his documentary and learn about Billy
Joel as a singer songwriter, what what affected
him? I mean, his songs,
I've always played them. Like, why are they
so passionate? Music, man. Well, I mean, that
guy lived his songs. He didn't just write
songs. I mean, he lived it. I mean
He's not dead, is he? No. No. Okay.
Well, alright.
No. And and so that passion behind that
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music is what has inspired me to, put
this together, and I wanted different flavors in
that music. And so when I met Vince,
Vince and I were playing we were over
at the Ox, The Ox and Free over
here, our local, place in there. Yeah. And
yeah. And they have an open mic, and
here we are. And I'm like, Vince, man,
I I love what you're singing. He seems
passionate about it. I said, I think we'd
blend really well. And he liked what I
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was doing. And we got together. And as
soon as we got together and just started
talking about music. Right? You know? And, like,
hey. Listen to and we're pulling out things
left and right. We were, like, two kids
in a candy store. Well, you make a
presence. You make your presence done too. You're
not only just good, and you do mostly,
original, which is a good thing. That's the
other thing. But you just have, you have
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charisma up on the stage. You guys have
this kind of presence that people wanna look
up and say, wow. That that's incredible.
How about you, Vince? Who are some of
your big influencer? Oh, gosh. Well, Crosby, Stills
and Nash,
America,
Neil Young. All the Harmonizing stuff. Joni Mitchell.
Joni Mitchell. Oh, I love Joni Mitchell. Yes.
Oh, yeah. No. So yeah. I'm I'm kinda
(26:32):
in that genre, of course, The Beatles and
that
sixties, seventies, you know, folk rock and rock
kind of stuff. That's cool. So you do
have a lot of or or not mostly,
but a lot of origin also. Who writes
mostly? Or do you both Yeah. Yeah. We
both write. I'm currently writing a lot of
it because I've just
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this here here's part of the story was
when, you know, Cassandra and I decided to
move out here, and I I've been a
camp director and youth director. And and when
I say youth, you know, outdoor education stuff.
I just fell in love with,
strangely enough, my degree is in percussion studies.
Studied in Africa at the University of Ghana.
Wow. Oh, yeah. It it goes deep into
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the music side. And so I was playing
music with a lot of really great players
in Austin, and but it wasn't as fulfilling.
And I I felt like I had
a heart full of songs that I didn't
know how to get out. And I'd written
a few.
Sable
knows, you know, some of my first songs.
She she inspired me to keep playing them.
She'd like when she was a little girl,
(27:34):
you know, I had this, one song called
I Wish, which we'll play today. Yeah. And,
you know, Sable, as a young girl, learned
all the lyrics to I Wish. And I'm
like, oh, man. I should do something with
that. And it's become one of our favorite
tunes. We we love playing. I love it.
He's really prolific at writing. I'm not so
much, but I Wow. Okay. I
(27:54):
I've I've I've come into rehearsal and we're
gonna play the next night. And they go,
hey. I got this new song. We're playing
it tomorrow night.
Okay. That's so true.
But I write slowly.
So
so
Alright. 15 songs of his and we're gonna
bring one of mine in. Yeah. And now
Vince is writing music. Yeah. Do you work
(28:17):
do you do another job? Like, you are
at the Manly I do. I I, I
do I'm a maintenance mechanic out at the
prison. So I work for the state of
California. Have a lot of you don't have
a lot of time. You do have Hey,
well. I'm a state worker. I have a
lot of time. Disturbing the peace. Those guys
were all, you know They're all CEOs. Yeah.
All former CEOs. Right? Or worked at the
prison. One or two was current until, you
(28:38):
know, little while. Tony just got it recently.
Yeah. Yeah. Cool.
Alright.
How about you,
Sable Sable, who? Snoop Doggy Raccoon? I don't
know what these names that you might Oh,
no. Let her talk. She's got some favorites.
Who do you who is some of your
favorite
influencers?
Well, my biggest influence in, like, my favorite
band right now is a band called Ghost.
(28:59):
Ghost. Okay. They're fantastic too. I when she
pulled that out, I'm like, okay. What's this
new Ghost thing? I'm actually I'm a fan
too just because of her. Yeah. They're Ghost.
Okay. I'll look up Ghost. Yeah. I'm going
to a concert soon, but they're I mean,
the bassist, the guitarist, the singer, the drummer,
I just love it all. It's definitely my
favorite band.
(29:20):
Ghost. What? Yeah. Cool. My dad's also shown
me some bands like Styx. I'm enjoying Styx.
Oh, yeah. That's right.
Sticks. Yeah.
Green Day. I like Green Day.
I go to a lot of small bands
down in Galveston,
like a lot of basement shows and stuff.
Cool.
(29:40):
So so, yeah, I kind of just pull
inspiration from everywhere, and I have a lot
of big influences. You got a good you
got a good,
fake ID?
Nope.
Good to see you. And here we go.
Here we go, Josh. Is on my hand.
Darn it. You know, the x is on
my hand. I have to we have to
break right now because it is absolutely already
halfway through the show. You're tuned in to
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(30:02):
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(30:46):
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I'll come back to this in just a
bit because we have a few more questions
we needed to ask before we break into
yours. Yeah. Let's do it. Do you write
music too? Have you started writing?
Well, you know, sometimes I I'll write down
some some music, some lyrics,
but I've I've never written a full song.
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I'll I'll sit in with my dad. I'll
give him, like, inspiration, but I just
I I have the I have the skills.
I just haven't put them into very cool
distracted. Let me find This this this young
lady Yeah. There you go. She is my
muse.
I mean, a lot of the songs I
write, and she inspires me. And Wow. Even
Vince will be sitting there, and he and
Vince will say, I love playing the song
(31:29):
looking at you, watching your response to Yeah.
You know? Or you consider yourself a poet?
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I I would say that's
this is my art form. You know, working
at the Manly Art Center That helps. They
ask me, well, what do you do? Are
you an artist? I'm like, yes.
And my art is the music. And on
Monday the fourth Monday is every month, we
have musicians gather Yeah. At the Manly Arts
Center for the Manly sessions. Very cool. So
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all the Manly sessions. Is that okay? Yeah.
One time. Yeah. One time later.
Okay. Cool. Is the band evolving? You've been
together now, what, four, five, five, six months
you said? Or Yeah. I mean, yeah. It's
this November. What's that? Six months? Six months
at least. Seven months. A little more. Yeah.
Is it evolving? Are you getting better and
better? You seem to be getting better and
better. And again, it's just stuck up. We
appreciate that. You're listening to us. So hearing
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that feedback really Yeah. Yeah. And I and
I hear people, and I think, Vince, you
hear people talk about it. Right? Oh, yeah.
Well, it's I I call it Brookings Famous.
Yeah.
Because
you can't go anywhere and somebody walks up,
says, hey. Don't you play guitar and this,
you know, and for your How far will
you guys travel? Because the show will be
heard next week in Eureka and Humboldt, big
audience down there. Yeah. We'd love.
(32:32):
They can just reach out to you. We'll
do that after you sing a few songs,
how people can connect with you.
And
any big things? Where do you think you're
gonna be in a couple years? Where do
you Absolutely. That's a great question. So, you
know, as we're putting our music together and
Vince and I are we're writing music. We're
playing music. You're right, Jacques. I mean, people
are feeding back to us saying, we love
(32:53):
what you're doing, and it's giving us inspiration
to continue
our original stuff. And I think or for
for me, and I think for Vince too,
is writing our original. Right? Yes. And, I
think we've got some new songs. Vince, you're
writing some songs right now. Right? Yep. And
he's got that, you know, that California style.
Right? And and so he brings his in.
California style. And then I'll put a little
(33:14):
bit of rockabilly in it, you know, and
it just kinda blends well so that the
future,
you the to answer your question, is to
record
our original tunes. It's been a dream of
mine. I've worked in studios. My, my associate's
degree is from the Art Institute of Dallas.
I did music recording as part of my
training.
And,
so I wanna get in the studio. We
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wanna record these songs
because we wanna we want the the art
form to be out there. Right. I'm not
looking at making You have a studio good.
You know, Ray Martel's been on this with
Redwood Records so many times. He's been on
the show. Oh, yeah. I need to With
the Black GTO. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Reach out
to him on Facebook. He's on Facebook. Absolutely.
Are you one of those bands that, you
know, play at the open mic and it's
like, wait. What just happened? Where do those
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people come from? You know, they sound professional.
No. Right. You're a fool. Right? Very nice.
Now what is your favorite venue in town?
What This is What do you think, Vince?
Here?
I love Chetco.
It's hard to beat. It's it's
it's big. It's got a nice stage. It's
got a nice vibe. We get a good
feedback from the the audience. But you also
play right next door with Misty Mountain. Have
you? I love Misty Mountain. God. That was
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a total difference. There's such a wonderful Intimate
is the word. Right. You know? And then
just above is oxen free. I mean Yep.
It's it's Oxen free is above. Where else
do they play here in town? Let's see.
Those are the three. Right? The Augustine. Augustine.
Augustine. You've been to Augustinos.
That's right. That's a phone number. And whatever
happened to +1 01 has been bought? The
Yeah. They're going to music now. We haven't
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played there yet. Oh, yeah. You know, it's
on our list. And we've got, you know,
a lot of these places on our list.
Vince really I mean, when we first got
we first started, Vince is like, we're we
gotta go to mister Ed's. Yeah. Miss Ed's
up and yeah. Tell him a story. Yes.
Tell him about mister Ed's. Oh, that's that's
a great I mean, just a great venue,
and Ed is a super guy and great
(35:00):
sound system, and it's it's a it's a
fun place. You know? It's I I wish
it wasn't so far away. Yeah. Right. I
think, you know, everybody go there more. It's
not a bad drive. And then I saw
Beautiful. We saw I was on your Facebook
site, before the show. A couple weeks ago,
I saw you have pictures of you sitting
up there with mister Edward. His guitar is
all over the city. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's
So Funky Monkey plays. Yeah. Are there any
(35:21):
big events coming up soon? Yeah.
Matter of fact, I got it right here.
So the next one, we're gonna play down
at the, the harbor there. I think they
call it Good Vibrations or good no. What
is it? August 9. Yeah. Yeah. It's, not
What do they call it? Well, wait a
minute. Not pirate people, but the but the
part in the Over heart of the coast.
Yeah.
(35:42):
It's all like Foxy. Foxy. Yeah. Yeah. And
I think that's the alternative place to go.
Yes. Right. Yeah. And I think it's great.
It's a lot of the local musicians getting
together to support each other. And,
that's all it was like here. That's why
it was yeah. We we went to both.
We we could both. Shark Tones, you know,
those Kearny and all those guys. You know?
There's so much, talent in this town. Right?
And on our coast, it's amazing. And so
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there's there's plenty Any others that you wanna
Absolutely. You know? So we're gonna be doing
that. And then, of course, we talked Misty
Mountain is gonna be the weekend after that.
So on the sixteenth, we're gonna be right
over here at Misty Mountain jamming out, you
know? Is that like a Friday, Saturday, That
one is a Saturday. Saturday. It's a great
day, and I think we usually do. It
depends on how late the sun's setting these
days, but it's either I think it's a
(36:23):
or it starts at seven. Yeah. I think
that's what they're starting at. And then, we've
got in September, we're gonna be doing Augustinos.
Me? That's on the fourteenth. That's gonna be
a Sunday there. And then, man, we're looking
forward to Mr. Ed's on the September 26.
Oh, so you booked,
Yeah. Right. And those are just some we
we try we we've played a lot. Now
we're kinda getting some of our new songs
(36:44):
together. Right? And so rehearsal is important for,
you know, for Vince and I. Right? Yeah.
We rehearse a lot. We do. And
for me, I love being in the rehearsal
space because it's our, you know, friendship, and
we're Right. Putting everything together, and we get
excited about our songs. And that comes across
on the stage. I think that's what the
part of it is. So we we practice,
and we enjoy that. So I think this
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time right now, we didn't book up a
lot. We had some opportunities, but we said,
let's let's get our music together so that
next time we go out, we've got more
originals. And I think that's what we're bringing.
We've I wrote five or six songs just
recently. K. Can private people also hire you?
Oh, absolutely. You're available for high. Private
parties, weddings, you play mostly original work. Mhmm.
Yeah. Right? Yeah. We'll throw in a few,
(37:27):
you know, if you'd like a song, you
know, but, yeah, you know, I said, you
know We're gonna play only original here. I'm
not an alcoholic powered jukebox. You know? I've
you know, I I like my original tunes.
Power jukebox. I like that. Alright. I wanna
give the signal to Ray over here because
we're approaching that time where we're gonna switch
from the
studio,
microphones right here tuned in to our guest
(37:50):
to their music playing. So at this point,
I wanna tell our our our guest here,
Rob and Vince and,
and Sable
that we are getting ready for that. And
while they're doing that, I'm gonna go back
here and read you something a few more
people that have are supporting this show,
here on this,
(38:11):
Doc and Jacques show. There it is. Where
is it? There it is.
We have Nick Rael. Thank you, Nick Rael,
for your five zero one c three project
partnership for the Performing Arts Center or PPA,
soon to be constructed in Crested City and
serving all of our region. And stay tuned
because there's gonna be a big events, the
some big music events happening in the Crest
(38:32):
City area under the They're way right. Of
who? Nick Rail, a mover and shaker. We
also wanna thank the reimagined Crescent Harbor Art
Gallery in Crescent City. They are anchored in
the harbor right next to the boats, and
we saw those boats kinda rising today. It
was so weird, right, with the Little tiny
stars. Tsunami. Mhmm. Did you see that video?
Yeah. With it coming through? Yeah. Yeah. There
(38:53):
was a it was coming in pretty darn
good.
Also wanna give a big thanks, to our
region's only bowling center, Tsunami Lanes on 101
in Midtown.
Gigi called me as sharp as a bowling
ball.
Oops. That was okay. And of course, always,
doctor Gigi, thank you for your support on
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this station.
Everybody, we appreciate it. Oh, did I say
check on medical anesthetics? Yes, you did. I
did? Okay. That's where Morgan, that's where she's
at. She can put her in a resume
there. Yeah. And Theresa's leaving.
And Theresa's leaving? One of your favorite, folks.
Cassandra there. Yeah. I know. Oh, that's right.
That's right. Cassandra's there. Shouted out for her
twice. Okay.
(39:34):
Alright. So what are we gonna hear on
your first song?
Yeah. Robin?
You know, we talked about the Louisiana influence.
So this first this first song we're gonna
do is called Between the Devil and New
Orleans. Alright. Okay. Now what's Spawn this? Exactly.
Devil's Spawn. Well, there's an old,
Ella Fitzgerald song called Between the Devil and
(39:55):
the Deep Blue Sea.
And that inspired my thought of this, and
then I was thinking I was reading a
lot of Hemingway. I I I love Hemingway.
He's one of my favorite
authors that I you know, Florida Keys. I
was a captain in the Florida Keys. That's
a whole another story doc. But,
yeah. You know, and so I wrote this
in the sense of what if, you know,
(40:17):
Hemingway Hemingway or or or Zane Grey, which
was from Oregon here. What if he wrote
this blues song? And so this kind of
is
his terminology, his words,
was called Between the Devil and New Orleans.
It's got that little gumbo sound. Here at
the KCOW Studios, we're joined by
Bob Clift, Vince Jesse, Morgan
(40:38):
Clift, and, of course,
Sable. Morgan Clift. Pardon me. Sable. I got
all. Silly bids clift. I'm messing it up.
I'm sorry. Okay. With black dirt gumbo, folks,
take it off. Here we go.
(41:17):
Been the darkest moment. Don't need your lies.
Don't need your god. No tyranny.
This maelstrom's
mine, just leave two.
Don't need no sympathy.
(41:38):
I just need a connection,
a quiet presence, a gentle touch while I
ride this pain.
Just set that anchor and hold it steady
(42:04):
and
you all
lead.
That dirty water won't wash away my sins
and won't get me clean.
I'm stuck somewhere between the devil
(42:26):
and New
Orleans.
That dirty water won't wash away my sins,
and it won't get me clean.
(43:06):
Don't take away my pain or try to
wash away
all my sins.
You see, tough times are hard. It feels
so bad, but there's two it's shouting.
(43:27):
I got a dilemma, and I'm in a
tight spot, Lift up where'd you end.
Tough times don't flap. Tough people do.
All the way down to the end.
All the way to the end,
baby.
(43:48):
You see, I'm stuck somewhere
between the devil
and the Orleans.
That dirty water won't wash away my sins,
and it sure won't get a flame.
(44:10):
The air starts somewhere
between the devil and
(44:59):
Seeing those darkest hours will I live my
way? Or will you be here with me?
Just reach out and touch my hand, wait
for the dawn to come, I see.
(45:19):
You see, it's love that reminds me of
who I am and who I was, but
sometimes I seem to forget.
These scars remind me of what I did
and how I survived with no regret. No
regret, baby.
Here we go.
(45:40):
See, I stuck somewhere
between the devil
and New Orleans.
That dirty water won't wash away my sick,
and it sure won't get me clean.
(46:00):
You see, I'm
stuck somewhere
between the devil
and New Orleans.
That dirty water horn washed away my sins
and it woke and it went.
(47:13):
Last time.
That was the LP version. That is. That
is. That is. That that's not gonna be
played. That's not three zero five. Live performance.
Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. All original stuff. The
motion's in there, man. Good words. Thank you.
(47:35):
Good vibe. Everything happening good.
We have about,
actually about eight, ten minutes. So we'd be
wanna abbreviate
Our front corner. Yes. To home. Yeah. Next
to, something that we're looking for. Gets out
there. Alright. What is the next song that
we're coming up to? And and while you're
preparing for the next song, I wanna let
you know. You're found all over, Black Dirt
(47:55):
Gumbo on Facebook. Yep. Facebook.
And remember, it's g u m b a
u x. Spelled that strangely.
Blackdirtgumbo.com.
That's our website.
We got everything on there. We got our,
you know, how to find us, phone number,
email.
It's all there. Also where we're playing, it's
got videos that we've we've been playing.
(48:16):
So check out blackdirtgumbo.com,
gumbeaux.
Right. Rob Clef is putting out that message
right now. What's the next song we're hearing?
Yeah. This one's called Losing You.
This one was gonna you know, refers us
back to some of the other songs that
I've written. This one came in, it's one
of those things, I sat down one morning
and it came like a bolt of lightning.
(48:37):
I literally wrote this in like
about ten minutes. Well I'm like, Let's do
this. So - Abbreviated a bit if we're
gonna do two more, so I'm gonna do
this one. -Yeah, we'll go through this. -Yeah.
Okay. So here we go. -All right. Little
hair,
black dirt gumbo, k c I w.
(49:14):
I turn away and I think of you.
I hear those echoes of words untrue.
Your tender ears hurt feelings blue.
I should have told you I love you.
(49:34):
I can't recall a thing that day
In your eyes I see the way
The pain makes you
(50:00):
I sing that song a special way.
I wish I was right here next to
you.
I never thought about losing
you. Alright,
Vince.
(50:36):
Time moves along, I'm old and gray
My poor heart has more to say
These tough times just can't be undone.
I know I disappointed
one.
(50:56):
I turned around, I
saw you there. Your smiling face, you're all
burned
here.
You would embrace me just as I am.
Love for me, I'm a broken man.
(51:17):
Every time I go out and play,
I sing that song a special way.
I wish I was right here next to
you.
I never thought about losing you.
(51:58):
Hello.
Oh my gosh. There we go. Quite a
cute. Hi. I'm giving you a hug. Yes.
I'm emotional. I mean Oh my god. We're
on the radio, folks. And as you know,
I think once you you have to break
the barrier of emotional
because that's what transmits over the radio. You
can't be seen. So we're everything's in the
voice and the emotions, and you played that
perfectly. That hit it. I mean, it really
(52:19):
transmitted
emotion. Okay. We do have,
six and a half minutes. So let's finish
up with what's this last song gonna be?
And we can finish it within a minute
or two. And if if I start swinging
my hand We'll be good. Alright. We're we're
good. We got this. So so the song
the the words here is,
I sing that song a special way. I
wish I was right here next to you.
(52:40):
K. This is the song called I Wish.
This is the one that Sable learned.
And, yeah. Nope. This is the one when
we first started we did it when she
first came out. And k. Cool. Watching her
when we were doing it, I was just
like, oh my gosh. This is amazing. You
know. Wow. There was a connection Yeah. You
know. Right on. Let's hear it. I wish.
I wish.
(53:00):
Blacker
Gumbo.
(53:28):
Well, I wish I had a silk shirt
on the color of the sky.
Wish I lived in a brick house down
by the ocean sun
And I wish I sailed a tall ship
on the ocean so blue
All I ever wanted was to be right
here
Right here next to you
Next to you
(53:53):
Next to
you. Oh, next
to
you. Right here next to you.
(55:24):
Now I don't have that silk shirt, but
I can still see the sky.
And I don't live in that brick house,
but I live down by the ocean side.
And I don't sell on a tall ship,
but the ocean's just as blue.
All I ever wanted was to be right
here, right here next to you.
Next to you.
(55:47):
Next to you.
I love the sound of your name,
standing next to you.
(56:14):
Sitting next to you.
Alright, Vince. Take us home.
(56:38):
Alright, Shockey. We wanna thank you for letting
us come out here to your show
tonight.
Woah.
(56:59):
No. Hey, Chris. Block in it. Dirtgumppo.com
is a great way to get a hold
of this,
incredibly tipped,
talented group,
with,
Rob Clift and Vince Jesse and Visitor, Sable.
When are you heading home, Sable?
I think I'm That's okay. We're here. We're
picking up. August 8. Okay. She leaves him
(57:20):
soon. When are you gonna come back? Sooner
than pretty soon? Like, next summer. Alright. No.
You'll be back. You'll be back for Christmas
and spring break. We got lots of stuff.
Oh, yeah. I'll play when I can. Yeah.
Black Dirt Dumbo, thank you so much. Thank
you, Josh. Thank you. I mean, and you
will Doctor Reed, thanks for having us. Yeah.
I loved I loved all your your stuff
about the larynx and the Yeah. The
(57:40):
Lorax.
Larynx.
Right. Right.
Okay. Doctor Gigi told me to watch my
drinking,
so now I drink in front of a
mirror.
Right. K. And he did both Then you
go and we'll leave him for next time.
We only have a couple seconds to go.
Hey, well Your jokes. Come on. This morning,
I asked Siri why I'm so unpopular and
single, and Siri activated the self portrait
(58:02):
Cameron.
You brought the new restaurant in town, guys?
No. What what's that? Called Karma. You they
they don't have a menu. You just, get
what you deserve.
Okay. I think that's about it, folks. Yes.
Okay. So we're done. Sorry. It was great
music. That was wonderful. I'm glad we You
have been listening to the Doc and Jacques
radio variety show on KCAW
(58:24):
one hundred point seven FM in Brookings, Oregon.
We hope you have enjoyed the show as
much as we have.
We sure have. Thank you again, Black Dirt
Gumbo. We wanna thank Tombo Zachary Simon for
their engineering wizardry. If you know of anybody
who'd like to be on the show, reach
out to us,
by going to dockandshock@gmail.com.
Thanks so so much, everybody. Peace and love,
(58:44):
Sable. Good travels. Nice seeing you. Talking to
you in Morgan. Thank you, everybody. Bye, guys.
Bye. Thank you.
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