September 8, 2025 • 59 mins
In this episode of the Doc & Jacques radio variety show, Dr. GiGi Reed and Jacques Kepner speak with yoga instructor Amanda Whittemore about the deeper meaning of yoga beyond physical poses. Amanda highlights its roots, holistic benefits, and her approach to teaching different practices, including breathwork, meditation, and connecting with nature. Then they speak […]
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Welcome,
welcome, welcome everyone.
You have now entered the cosmic radio receptors
of KCOW
one hundred point seven FM in Brookings, Oregon.
Thank you for tuning into this week's fan
fabulous program. I'm doctor Gigi, and my cohost
is, as always, Jacques Kepner. How are you,
Jacques? You? I am doing fine. Greetings, everyone,
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and welcome to the Doc and Jacques Radio
Variety Show. Special thanks to sound engineer
Michael Gorse My pleasure. Who's in covering for
Tom and Ray who have been suffering from
a little, break of the what? Virus. The
c virus, the COVID virus.
Alright. I wanna mention that you're hearing this
live show on KCOW in Brookings, Oregon. That
said, the same show will be rebroadcast in
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exactly one week from now, each and every
Wednesday at KZZH
ninety six point seven FM in Eureka, Humboldt
at 8AM
early in the morning. And then a few
hours later at 1PM on my old alma
mater,
KFUG
one hundred and one point one FM in
Crescent City. So now you know. Doctor Gigi
and I have your coast
covered.
I hope everyone enjoyed the Labor Day weekend
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that we just has had last week. It
was nice and warm, and I went up
the river and I swam naked.
I don't I don't skinny dip. I chunky
dunk.
Okay. What medical marvels does my brilliant, multilingual,
German practicing physician,
hospice director, three time patent holding scientist in
DNA
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genetics, and a major university
professor. What do you have for us on
this week's health segment of doctor Gigi?
Okay. Well, thank you again. We're talking about
cancer vaccines today. Thank you. Those are big
news recently. Right? Vaccines for Person for suggestion.
Cancer. Right. Chuck? Can we say Chuck did?
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Chuck. He he suggested cancer proteins. Oh, did
Chuck hey, Chuck. Well, thank you for listening.
And thanks for a lot of other people.
Johnny Lantomimeyer, if you're out there, I said
hello to our guest today for you. Okay.
What about cancer vaccines? Alright. Vaccines work by
providing the immune system with a harmless
version of the pathogen.
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Jackie, a pathogen is a sick maker.
A sick maker. I like that. Yeah. And
it allows it to produce antibodies
and memory cells
specific to that
sick maker pathogen.
This prepares the body to defend itself against
future infections with the same sick maker. Doctor.
June. Wow. The vaccine. Did you know you
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cannot spell healthcare without THC?
Alright. Continue, please.
Cancer vaccines are to stimulate the body's immune
system to recognize
and destroy
cancer cells. They can be used both to
prevent cancer and to treat existing cancer. Woah.
What kind of
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types of cancer vaccines are there? Oh, you
don't wanna give me statistics?
Alright.
So let's talk about the preventive cancer vaccines.
Alright. We already have some of them. These
vaccines are designed to prevent cancer by stimulating
the immune system to recognize
and fight
cancer causing
viruses or bacteria.
So we have viruses or bacteria that can
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cause cancers. For example,
the HPV,
human papillomavirus
vaccine,
which prevents cervical cancer, and the hepatitis
b vaccine, which prevents liver cancer.
Wow. I went to see the worst faith
healer ever last night, doc. Yeah. He was
so bad, a guy in a wheelchair got
up and walked out.
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Yeah.
Really did. Alright. What about therapeutic cancer? There
is therapeutic cancer vaccines for those that have
cans for people that have cancer. So they're
used to treat existing cancer.
So they can be made from actual tumor
cells. So the whole tumor cells or fragments
of those cancer or tumor cells can be
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used to stimulate the immune system.
So you give that cancer cell the immune
system and they say, look what I found.
Let's make antibodies against it. Or you can
give little tiny they're called antigens, so just
little tiny pieces of that cell,
and you give that to the immune system
and then they make antibodies
against
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those things that you gave them to eat.
K. And that is called targeted
immunotherapy.
Okay. And is it kinda like taking venom
for to make an anti venom
from a snake? Yeah. It's kind of like
that. Exactly. Yeah. I came over that. Pretty
deep,
Pretty good. Doctor
Jacques here.
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What is the dentritic?
Is that what they're called? Yeah. That one
is a little bit another way, which I
actually wasn't gonna talk about it. Okay. That's
fine. I'm on the day 12 now, doctor,
without chocolate. And?
I've lost most of the hearing in my
left eye.
I really love chocolate. Okay.
Okay. So they're approved cancer vaccine There are.
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That are now approved. Listen to this. Okay.
There is something called sipuleucel
t,
which is approved for the treatment of advanced
prostate cancer. Woah.
Then there is the bacillus calmette gueran
or BCG
vaccine, which was always
looked upon and
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scoffed at.
It is approved for the treatment of early
stage bladder cancer. And why were we scoffing
at it? Because any TB test that you
do, like the little skin prick test, will
test positive if you have gotten that vaccine.
And they gave this vaccine to prevent TB
in other countries. When I had kidney cancer,
they also discovered while they were taking up
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part of my kidney
that I had cancer on my bladder. So
they just scraped it. They just scraped it.
Done with it. And then I had that,
that infection,
and then you said urine trouble.
But no. They scraped it. I've been never
I've never come back 24 later. Knock them
wood. That's my head, everybody.
So the next vaccine k. Is an mRNA
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vaccine, which is a brand really pretty much
a brand new type of therapeutic
cancer vaccine.
And it is currently being studied for
many, many several cancer types. And so this
is the little funny thing.
We or the science or whoever, those people
who work with it, they have learned a
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lot of how to design it with the
COVID vaccines because they were the And they
got practice with COVID. Yeah. That's how they
got into designing it and saying, hey, hero.
Maybe we can make, cancer vaccines. So very
cool. Ultimately, you we all come
from dust, and we will return to dust
doctor. Yeah. That's why I don't dust. It
might be somebody I know.
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Alright. Any limitations on any of these things?
So the limitations
are similar to those two of all vaccines.
Right? They may not be effective in all
patients like any other vaccine. They can have
side effects such as flu like symptoms
like any other vaccine.
They may require multiple doses or boosters
like any other vaccine. Vaccine is a vaccine
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that's seen
on us. Crazy. So we do have these.
I saw the breast cancer, the stomach, and
they're they're right on the verge of releasing
a lot of these. I wonder how much
AI has to do with any of this.
Oh, I'm sure a lot, right? Right. They've
figured out. All the research that is in
the books and in the computers, AI can
get that information within seconds or minutes. K.
What else? So, there are some vaccines that
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are called personalized mRNA vaccine, which is really
the newest of the new.
And what they're making is they're going to,
the person's
mutated DNA. So we get cancer because we
have mutations,
mistakes in the DNA
happening
through whatever,
through poisons or through the light or whatever
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makes gives us our mutations. And then they
go in there and find the
broken gene pretty much
or the gene what it encodes for and
they make antibodies against that. So it's Woah.
Person
specific.
Very cool. You're losing that, but that's your
DNA background. Yeah. So we have the mRNA
vaccines that are in research
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right now
for that. I used to be a schizophrenic,
but we are all all right now. Oh,
good for you. That's hard to say. Okay.
Good for me all.
Melanoma is the skin. The mRNA vaccines that
are in trial right now is, for example,
the melanoma. Melanoma is the skin cancer. K.
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So personalized mRNA vaccines
with other stuff is being
in trial right now. Very cool. Pancreatic cancer?
Big one. Very big one. And especially, it
is a very quick one usually.
Pancreatic cancer is known to be a very
fast growing
cancer. So this the the things in trial
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right now prolong
them healthy ish living with a cancer. Okay.
Colorectal,
lung, and prostate cancers
have
have started being in the mRNA
vaccine research.
Cool. And now the head and neck cancers,
the cool thing is sort of the cool
thing is that many of those are actually
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caused by the same virus that caused cervical
causes cervical cancer, the HPV virus. So now
they are testing
maybe Gardasil or some other vaccine against HPV
to help with the head and neck cancers.
And this is coming up pretty soon, if
I'm not mistaken. Their trials are are Yeah.
We were all excited reading that, but really
the first mRNA
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vaccines
maybe might be coming out in 2027
and or be approved
in 2029.
But, you know, this decade, I guess.
Cool. Well, that is very, very interesting, doc.
Thank you for talking about cancer. Thanks, Chuck,
for suggesting it. I kind of understood some
of it. That sounds okay. Some of
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us understand more than others. In fact, a
new study has just come out proving
that seven out of every three people have
trouble with mathematical statistics.
Seriously.
Okay. Thank you again, doctor. That was interesting.
Alright.
Our first of two guests today, joins us
in the KCIW,
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studio. And it's a woman who we have
heard many good things about, a good vibe
stories about. She practices an art form that
millions of people take very earnestly and millions
more are very interested in it. Without any
further verbiage for me, let's get right down
to the nuts and bolts of someone that
knows a lot about y
m oh, y o g a yoga. Yep.
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Yoga.
Amanda Whittemore, is it? Yeah. Amanda Whittemore.
The welcome to the Doc and Jacques radio
variety show. Thank you, Doc and Jacques. My
pleasure. Yes. Welcome. Thanks for joining us. Yeah.
Cool. Do you,
Amanda Yoga? Is that I could I was
gonna say that. Yeah. I was gonna say
that yoga makes me look good naked. But
then again, alcohol does too.
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You should try and mix them together. There
we go. Charley. Yeah.
Alright. Amanda, where were you born and raised?
Give us the background story. Yeah.
Fortunately
or unfortunately, I have, Las Vegas, Nevada.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. What brought you here?
My mother. Just doing a mending project with
healing the mother cord and, you know, as
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we get older in our life journey and
we have
things that have you know, it's time to
make amends with certain things. Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. Mhmm. Tell us what is yoga.
What is
yoga? What is yoga? What is yoga? What
is yoga? Is it an abbreviation or is
it just
Right. Well, so what yoga is is everything.
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Yoga is us. Yoga is breath. Yoga is
movement. Yoga is awareness,
consciousness,
being present.
Yoga literally translates to the word
to join.
To join. Join. Thank you. That was a
question I put on the list. I like
being yoga.
Yeah. To join. So we are all Do
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you know the history of yoga? Who's joining?
So,
being a human, coming to Earth. Yeah. Being
a spirit, entering into a body,
and having your first breath.
It's there's
like many
spiritual connections or even a musical path where
they think the guitar came from here or
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historically
this came from there.
I have a broad variety of teachers and
they all tell me that yoga came from
their lineage.
But what I learned in my own studies
is whether it's
Christian based or Buddha or,
Patagonian native Indians from Argentina
or from India,
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they all have
movement and breath and nutrition and music. And
their their the origin is the human
coming to Earth.
Cool. So I think yoga if I think
of yoga, I think the yoga mat and
then you making the tree or the dog
The position. The asana.
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Yeah. So asana is from Sanskrit is one
of the main languages that they still use.
One of our other teachers, he still uses
Spanish because he's the Argentinian
guy.
So it depends on the teacher. So the
language makes a difference of the frequency and
the vibration that comes through the body.
And
yoga
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is eight main branches.
And the asana is mostly the position or
the movement or the posture that The United
States has kind of capitalized on and brought
into the gyms and fitness activity, which is
awesome.
And we're really grateful. It's
more meant to be
in of course, in group settings. However,
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students get a better result if they do
a one on one session and if they
earned their own personal practice.
Then when you go to a group session,
you're more able to do the movements with
the people without any injuries.
Isn't it partially, with meditation? It goes well
with meditation. It's part of the It's It's
kinda go hand in hand. See how sitting,
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reflecting on your day and meditation as it
can be anything. Right. And so having a
moment to yourself, even if it's in a
group, there's group meditation, but it is taking
time for yourself and receiving Are you putting
your muscles at a flexed
stressed
I mean, you're sitting there with I I
can't put my legs in those positions that
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you might be able to attain. Well, this
is something funny is depending
on the proportion and the length of your
femur or your your arm, your the way
that your hips are placed, you may never
be able to do some of those positions
just because of the length and the of
the body.
Very. The body parts. What do you Okay.
So eight so there's eight parts to yoga.
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Can you, like, sum them up? So one
of them is what we what I think
of yoga. Right? The mat and the poses?
Yeah. Or the other side? Eight branches.
Let's see them on the spot if I
can remember all of them. We have the
breath, the pranayama.
A big one. That's a huge one. We
have the meditation, the self reflection,
the yamas and the niyamas. So how we
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see ourselves and how do we keep our
body clean, how do we keep our environment
clean, how do others see us,
how do we present ourselves.
Then we have the
Get close, forget about fire. Sound. Like, snack.
Okay.
So the frequencies
that we invite in and around our body,
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Sound frequencies are important to how the body
responds if it's always,
as we know, if it's stress test. Yeah.
It's gonna
create an illness. If it's pleasant, it's going
to be peaceful. Right. And,
Vibration maybe? Or is that the sound?
So
sound also comes with music and things of
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that nature.
Nutrition,
the the way that we eat,
how we eat. Is the food that we
are eating clean? Is it where is it
from? What is its source? What is that
funding producing? It's a whole conscious collective
of a way of living.
So when we do yoga, you really incorporate
all those things. You don't just
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some people do. They just get in the
position. They go to the gym. Yeah. Others
really invite it as a whole lifestyle. Wow.
Totally cool. What got you into yoga besides
your mom, maybe?
No. So yoga started at a way younger
age. I just came to Brookings because of
my mom.
And how long ago did you come to
Brookings? 03/19/2019.
Not too long. We're all here about the
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same time. Right? Yeah. Right? I have the
same same It's a big moment. And what
got me into yoga was a
for seriously to take serious take it seriously
was a car accident.
Horrible car accident.
And,
it just helped me get out of pain.
And a lot of people think, I can't
do yoga because I have an injury. Well,
that is the number one reason why we
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do it, is because we have an injury
and we want relief. Knee injuries, back injuries,
those are number one why we do yoga.
So you have I am in your own
program here in KCOW,
but that will come up a little bit.
So do you teach yoga?
Yes. I teach yoga. I teach geometric yoga
and that is an encompassed
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way of saying all types of yoga because
there's
different teachers, different lineages, Hatha,
Bikram,
the 26 series,
Iyengar,
Vinyasa flow. There's,
you know, hot yoga, all the different Hot
yoga. That's what I Yeah. It's our favorite.
Right? Hot yoga. Where do you teach it,
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all those different things. All day long? I
mean, you've I'm working on it. I am
working on it. Yeah. So SWOC invited me.
SWOCC,
the college here invited me to teach there.
I teach at REPS Gym. And then I
just got to open up the peaceful support
yoga center above Cascadia Pickleball
Zone
inside.
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So they've got an upstairs unit, up there.
A multi purpose room and it's it's for
yoga.
Wow. But you really live yoga. Right? Oh,
yeah. You live yoga. Oh, yes. You try
to teach other people and not just the
positions, the downward dog or whatever.
What do you need to
practice yoga besides a yoga mat? Just kidding.
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You don't even need a mat. I actually
recommend not using a mat. I recommend going
to the ocean.
I recommend utilizing the sand,
rocks, water,
a tree,
something with nature that connects to nature and
to our environment. Uh-huh. And if you're in
your own home, you know, socks are dangerous
in yoga,
but Socks are dangerous? Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. Okay.
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Where you're gonna slide and yeah. Oh, because
you might slide. Yeah.
So it's good for old and young and
anything in between? Every person, every being, animals,
every human, every
situation,
majority of my teachers are
60 to 80 years.
Oh, wow. And they've been doing it thirty,
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forty years and even their parents went on
forever. And
it really is for all ages. Kids
pick it up so naturally and it improves
our inner wellness,
our environment of our body.
Instead of being a stagnant body,
if we sit in the chair, we become
the chair.
We get up, we move,
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the whole immune system powers up, we have
no room to
get ill. We don't have time. The body's
functioning. The organs talk to each other.
Cool. Wow. Because I wish I'd have been
around when I was a kid.
Yoga is relatively
well, I'm 67, but it wasn't around, it
wasn't offered. I don't think I heard about
yoga until I got into college. Well, in
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different cultures and different
places in the world, they have done it
since then. They consider being in the womb.
As we move around,
we're connecting with our movements. And so it's
something that we've learned eternally. Right on. What's
the best thing about yoga for you?
The sensation.
The sensation. And the moment? Present moment? Yeah.
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Yeah. How how we feel. Like, how you
feel from it is just it's an enlightenment.
It just feels
so good. It feels better than anything I've
ever done.
It was When did you actually, how old
were you? When was that car accident? How
old were you? Nineteen ninety nine. I was
19. Oh, wow. Okay. Mhmm. Alright. And yin
yang, if you got the best, is there
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anything bad about yoga? What would be the
hardest part about that? The hardest part is
there's not enough time in the day to
do all the yoga that I wanna do.
Oh, my goodness. And you're teaching in three
different places, WAC and
REPS and Cascadia.
How cool that is. So how often do
you teach?
I try to teach at least one to
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two, maybe three hours a day.
Wow. Teach the three hours. Mhmm. Teach. Okay.
So getting back to my earlier story, I
didn't even hear about adult college. Why doesn't
everyone in The United States why aren't we
practicing yoga? I mean, it just seems like
it's a meditative,
incredibly,
finding yourself vibing out. Why aren't we
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why isn't everybody into yoga?
It's
it's spreading like a wildfire. The more people
acknowledge it, the more even in this town,
like, in Brookings,
the more people learn about it, the more
they want it, the more they request more
time for it. It's just education.
And when our channels,
whether it's radio,
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thank goodness for this show, or it's television
or
series FM, whatever whatever internet is
marketing and selling,
it's really difficult to get past the big
presenters of,
how to encourage people to stay at home,
binge watch, and buy things.
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Yeah. It's breaking through those barriers. We call
it break and teach
of how to really
encourage
positive
teaching.
K. Cool. I like it. So you'll have
your own KCIW
show.
Yeah. Tell us about it. What's it called?
It's called Quality Living with Peaceful Support.
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Quality Living with Peaceful and when does it
play? When does it play? Monday nights at
06:30 and Saturdays at noon. Is it a
half hour show? Half hour show. Cool. And
how many shows have you had? 92.
We just yeah.
Right on. So is it where you're actually
practicing it? You're saying, okay, everybody take a
deep breath with me and
exhale.
Sometimes our guests, other teachers do that. I
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give a platform for us to talk about
what is quality. Wow. What is living? How
does it feel to be alive to each
different person in the community or
what have you? Okay. One more time. The
name?
Your name of the show? The name of
the the show. Quality Living with Peaceful Support.
You guys should come on in and we
could do interview.
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And it's time. We've just been invited to
where? Yeah. Hurry Cafe wants a Peaceful Support.
Okay. So quality lipo and it's it plays
at what times? 05:30PM
and,
sorry, 06:30PM on Mondays and noon on Saturdays.
And the best part is you can go
to kciw.0rg
and click on the show. Just search for
it and you can listen to it twenty
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four seven and you can share it with
everyone in the world. This is the great
thing about all the shows on KCIW including
this one. You can always down download it
later and stream it at in our archives
and reach out to it. I'm doing, yoga
crunches twice a day now. You do? Cap'n
Crunch in the morning, Nestle Crunch at night.
Perfect.
I'm so sorry. What's up next for you?
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Well, so we are building
an aerial studio
in
town. It's the building right there on the
corner of Fern And Spruce
or
not down. Right. Like, right at Spruce And
Fern. I think that's what it is. Yeah.
It's three story building. It's about twenty, twenty
five feet, and it will be able to
have 16 aerialists that will hang from some
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fabric ribbons like this and it's supportive. It's
you can eventually get to Cirque du Soleil
level. However, the idea is to
feel supported, especially if you have an injury,
something to hold on to to build strength
and just
that's flat. So it's in a classroom setting?
It'll be there or you're hanging off the
side of the building?
Inside. Inside. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And it's the
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wasn't there a yoga shop up or am
I thinking of one right along Railroad Avenue?
Vassana. They're diagonal from us. They closed when
COVID hit. I was working with them quite
a bit, mentored with Lynn Hart and Carly.
With Lynn? Yeah. And I love them to
pieces. And they're still teaching classes in town
and doing so much fun, good
building things. Good, good, good people. So hanging
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support,
wrapping yourself up in
ropes and silks and things like that and
then Fabulous. How interesting, right? Mhmm. Very cool.
Yeah. I've seen it. It looks really cool.
Especially for people with injuries and coming back
because it's weight
If I want to start getting into yoga
Yeah.
And I wanted to just start slow, would
I should I enroll at SWOC or should
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I go to and I'm cost conscious. I'm
frugal. So I'm saying, do I go to
reps and join them? Do I pay for
the class at SWOK or should I come
and get lessons at Cascadia? What would you
do and how much are
is this an expensive undertaking?
If you've never done it before,
the major recommendation is to always get a
one on one.
Mhmm. If you have done it, join any
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class and it's just your preference of the
environment that you're in. Some people cannot stand
being in the gym, other people can't stand
being in the yoga studio,
other people don't wanna see a college or
they love the college. It's all about your
environment. K. Cool. And so it could be
at the beach like you said too. Oh,
yeah. That's the favorite.
How not do people get a hold of
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you to to get more information?
You have a phone number. 530334.
334.
0595.
Okay. (530)
334-0595
is directly to you. That's your phone number.
(530)
334-0596.
How about a website? 0595.
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Oh, I knew that. 0595.
Apologies. That's okay. How about Facebook,
social media website? I try not to too
much. Okay.
It's just personal preference. Yeah. I love it.
It's out there. I do have ocean aerial
course for Instagram.
I'm not really interactive with it.
I choose not to have a website.
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I do a lot of things with referral
only
and or show up to to one of
those classes. Well, you're sure they put yourself
out there with SWOC, the Southwest Oregon Community
College. Mhmm. And then at reps, when do
you teach your reps or just any Every
Wednesday at 05:30.
Okay. So and people can walk in then
and say, hey, I've just heard about Amanda
and I'd like to meet her. Would that
be a good time? Yeah. You can have
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business cards right there and they'll hand you
one and say sign up for a personal
class with her and I can even train
you in the gym if you liked that
environment. Wow. Very cool. I'm glad we had
you on, for this to explain to our
listeners about yoga,
101, and we have heard such good things
about you. Seriously, a lot of people have
said, oh, you gotta talk to him, man.
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She's totally cool. And we'll take you up
anytime.
If you want us on your show, I'll
be quiet. Absolutely. No no way. That's the
opposite of the point of having you on.
Hey, Walt. You've been listening to
Amanda, Widdemore here,
on the KCAW,
airwaves with the dock and shock. So thanks
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again, Amanda. Yeah. Thank you for coming in.
Doctor Gigi has been advising me to drink
less, sleep more, eat healthy, and practice yoga
every day, folks. Really. So you're hearing it
right now that from today on, I'm making
a huge change in my life.
I'm no longer gonna listen to doctor Gigi.
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Today's second guest on the Doc and Jacques
Radio Variety Show
is a man many people respect and pay
attention to.
He is a veteran of the Doc and
Jacques Show and has appeared on multiple past
shows. This man is on a mission and
a lofty mission it is indeed.
Let's get right down to it and start
conversing with none other than Nick Rail. Welcome,
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Nick Rail. Welcome, Nick. Good afternoon. Great to
be here. Thank you. I think I finally
heard you chuckle a little bit more. Yeah.
One of the jokes made it.
Doctor, lead in. We've only got a minute
here before I have to break from halftime.
True that. Okay. So, Nick, I know you
are not, you're not boasting, but what is
your position and title? Just come out with
it. Let's see. Dishwasher,
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Smurf,
Ron Promage.
I'm not much for titles.
Founder Ouch. Founder, president, chair of the Partnership
for the Performing Arts. That's p p a.
Okay. Let me stop right there. Let me
just get this over with folks because we
are already having so much fun. It's already
mid break. Time flies when you're having fun.
You're listening to
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KCIW one hundred point seven FM
located in lovely coastal Brookings, Oregon. The list
of major sponsors for this community radio station
are
Advanced Airlines, flying in and out of nearby
Crescent City to Oakland and LA seven days
a week. Doctor John Kirk's Porta Pints Craft
Brewery now in two locations and Tsunami Lanes
Bowling Center all in Crescent City. We have
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Michelle Beaufort with our own vibrant local Curry
County Chamber of Commerce. We have the Crescent
Harbor Art Gallery in Crescent City are anchored
right next to the boats and then guess
who? Nick and Lisa Riel. Woo hoo. Yeah.
Nick and Lisa Riel, thank you. And the
PPA for the Partnership for the Performing Arts
for supporting this and becoming a major supporter
of community radio. Finally, we have the medical
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team at Checkout Medical Anesthetics in Harbor. And
then, of course, we have doctor Reid, yourself,
and yours truly, Jacques Attenor. On behalf of
KCOW,
thanks to all of you. Back to Gigi
asking Nick Rail, our guest here in the
studio,
where were we? We were at what is
the PPA and when was it founded?
The Partnership for the Performing Arts is what
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PPA stands for,
and PPA was founded in 2021.
Oh.
And it's It's
four years old. And it's a five zero
one c three. Yeah. Five zero one c
three. We like that. Correct? Do you have
a mission do you have a mission statement
to fling at us?
Why have one when we can have three,
Gigi?
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So
Okay. Yeah. That's with your best shot. So
mission statement is to maximize the opportunities
for cultural enrichment in Del Norte and Curry
Counties through education,
performing arts, and civic activities.
Noble. Our vision statement,
transformation of an underserved community through improved access
to the arts,
creativity,
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education,
and excellence. Alright. And here's the three. Mhmm.
Values statement.
We lead with opportunity for our youth. We
believe in equal access to the arts. We
listen
and our door is always open. Very cool.
Very nice to meet you. And you are
an accessible guy. You know what? You're a
nice guy. Nick, everybody knows Nick. If you
don't know him, then you could always just
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say, seek him out. You'll see him at
every kind of event.
The PPA is every always there with their
support,
with their big banners and whatnot. So you're
very accessible, very very good guy and intelligent.
And I'm not gonna talk anymore. I'll let
you talk. I'm gonna need a bigger hat.
I gotta send you my hat, Bill Jacques.
You got it. You got it. Alright. Tell
us give us an update about the PPA
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events that are performing
partnership for the performing arts events center coming
up.
Oh,
the,
This is the one in in Del Norte.
It'll be in Del Norte at the Yes.
In California. How's it going with that? So
the Performing Arts and Civic Center will be
built at Del Norte High School campus
on the north side of the campus, and
for those familiar with the campus, the building
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will be located where the gravel parking lot
is just south of the tennis courts. Tennis
courts. Yeah. Yeah. We drive by the tennis
courts. And, which border Washington Boulevard.
The tennis courts will be moved to accommodate
additional parking in proximity to the center. Oh,
good. Okay. Cool. Mhmm. And you've raised quite
a it's many millions to build this event.
It's so funny, right?
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Yes. It's, it takes more than a couple,
Dollars. A couple sofas to,
in round numbers, this is a $50,000,000
project. Mhmm. And PPA is responsible for the
capital campaign,
design,
bid and build falls to the school district,
which will also own the facility and PPA
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will manage it and,
And it's serving both Del Norte and Curry
County? Curry County, right, both counties?
Yes, and
because we hold our youth so close the,
Del Norte Unified and Brookings Harbor School District
have first shot at the calendar,
community groups second. Nice. And
then, touring groups, etcetera, have,
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come in last. But the the good news
of being in a remote rural resource poor
area is there's enough room on the calendar
for everybody.
Right on. And speaking of calendars, when do
you hope that construction when are they when
would you like to see the first spade,
just be Pushing into the ground and thrown
over the shoulder.
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The
any specific date when you're looking at, like,
next year That could be. Couple years?
Well,
the bottom line is when we raise $50,000,000,
we're not there yet, but
Smooth. There's a Very smooth.
There's no question this is a heavy lift,
and the majority of our efforts to date
have been dedicated to laying the groundwork for
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a successful campaign. Right. The the architectural plans
have been completed thanks to
California senator
pro tempore Mike McGuire's procurement of a $2,500,000
grant Nice. Back in November
2022
from the from the state, and the plans
are currently down in Sacramento
going through approval process. They're just about through
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with that. Wow. Very
nice.
Aside from the money, the the project is
basically shovel ready, and as we complete the
infrastructure
to guarantee a successful campaign,
we are confident we'll reach goal.
Construction will commence when the campaign is fully
funded, and the build out is roughly eighteen
months with the target of 2028
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for the grand opening. Right on. Okay. And
we're talking about how many seats are there
gonna be in this approximately?
800 seats. Wow. So this is gonna be
fantastic, folks. We will have a large scale
internationally known,
event center that we could post all sorts
of things, both the county, all of Southern
Oregon can take advantage of this. Who wouldn't
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like to come over and spend some time
on the coast? So you're still
not quite there, obviously, or you would start
tomorrow. So you're still looking for donations and
supporters?
Yes.
And,
How can they get to support and
donate to you or to the PPA?
They can write large chat.
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Neck rail here on the on the air,
folks. He's funny on the chat. Hey.
Darn it, you're you're outdoing me. Let's let's
hit that nail right on the head.
It's it's no secret that we live in
a rural remote resource desert. Yeah. Meaning that
we'll have to knock on a lot of
doors to fully fund this campaign.
We are in the process of bringing in
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a number of partners
and thanks
to the
$2,500,000
grant, we're requisitioning
no. I'm sorry.
Thanks to a 2 and a half thousand
dollar grant from California. Difference there. A little
bit different. A couple zeros. Just zeros. What
the heck?
There's a and this
California Jobs First has a local chapter called
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Redwood Region Rise comprised of Delaware on both,
Lake And Mendocino Counties, and a number of
us were
applied for and were honored with a grant
from the state. Ours was 258,000
268,500
and we're using a good portion of that
to do a really top tier feasibility
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study to
not show or demonstrate that the center can
be built,
but that we can keep the doors open
once the center is built. Yeah. So sustainability
is a big issue when we're going to
private foundations and corporations.
People get excited about building something, then they
get not so excited about what
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needs to happen to keep the doors open.
And
we're pretty confident that we are we've just
put out all of our requests for proposals.
We are starting interviews next week for this
feasibility
study, and
we feel very confident we're gonna get
good reports back from the entity that we
choose.
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We also have a 1,000,000,
federal earmark as it's called,
through Jared Huffman, US Congressman
for California Jared Huffman. We had a have
a federal earmark back in with the House
of Appropriations Committee. It just cleared that committee,
and, there are other hurdles to go through.
Yeah. You gotta is that in the tsunami
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zone there? I didn't even think about that.
Is that in there? No. It's not in
the No. The tsunami zone goes up to
Ninth Street.
The the center is inside the city limits,
but outside the tsunami zone. And,
as such,
one of
the one a big deal for the center
is that it can be used. There's this
corridor. We got the airport. The school the
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school district has more data to offer the
county in times of emergency than the city
or the county.
Yeah. It could be used as a So
we have the
the gym for people to sleep in, we
got the cafeteria for food,
distribution, water, so forth, but a place, a
town hall meeting during times of emergency, and
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then we have the fire department just down
the street where the office of emergency services
is. Right next door to the football field
there. Right? So
it's it's very logical to have it there.
There currently
is no
adequate place for people to meet in times
of emergency. If we go back two years
to the fires in 2023
Down the Fairgrounds?
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The fairgrounds in the Ardor Ag Building was
where people were meeting and it was also
the where the primary incident space was. Right.
There's one road in and one road out
and it's in the tsunami zone. That's
simply not adequate for a number of reasons.
Well, I know that,
money talks. Mine only says goodbye.
But I wanna tell you, you do put
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your money where the your mouth is and
you are a major,
supporter of this whole thing. Right? You
were one of the biggest
supporters or are you one of the bigger
supporters? I don't need to know how much.
Okay.
But you are. Right? And Lisa and I
publicly pledged,
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I don't remember what day or month it
was, but four or five years ago, a
million dollars to this project. Right on. And,
our entire we we believe in the kids
of this community so much. Our our our
entire estate, basically, we're more worth more dead
than alive.
When when we pass, the whole thing goes
to PPA to support
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all the outreach that PPA does in our
shared communities.
So Now, I wanna point out that you're
not just saying you believe in the youth
in the in the next generation because you
are also known as the benefactor
for the musical instruments
and
what you have done for the high school
and and other things that you prepare repair
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musical instruments, give them out and help out
as which is for kids. Right? This is
our next generation that you do believe in.
You're right. Yes. The the center,
early days, we just call it the Performing
Arts Center, and as we study the revenue
streams in preparation
for the feasibility study, we realize
that in terms of revenue streams for the
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center,
the performing arts side of it will only
be maybe 50%
possibly left less than that for all the
other activities that can happen in the Center.
Corporate retreats,
talking to Dan Bratton, he says I get
calls all the time for people who wanna
come here, companies around The United States, but
there's no here here to come to.
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There are very true hotels. There's motels and
hotels, but there's not any A big business
centers. Yeah. Yeah.
Corporate corporate retreats,
conferences.
One of my pet dreams is for
Cal Poly Humboldt, for example, to do an
international biodiversity conference on The Redwoods.
People would come worldwide to that. I mean,
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it's just that would fulfill a dream. Everything
that happens with Redwoods and everything that lives
in the canopies above the Redwoods Yeah. That
are unique to the region.
The the lobby will seat a 150 people
at the round conference tables. We can have
wedding receptions there. We can have fundraisers there.
We can have a food truck extravaganza out
in the parking lot in front of the
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lobby. Right on. There's,
all different types of events that can happen
there. When there's an emergency and the,
center has taken over
for meetings,
that's reimbursable
by FEMA.
Oh. So that's that is another legitimate revenue
stream. But getting back to the kids, yes,
if we look at it from a retail
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dollar standpoint
Mhmm. We have given over $2,000,000
with the band and orchestra
instruments to Del Norte,
Unified School District and Brookings Harbor School District.
And this is a personal victory to me
because when I was growing up,
I still don't know how my parents afforded
an instrument for me. It's still a mystery
to me. We did He grew up in
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Crescent City too, in here in our region.
And now
there are enough instruments that any child who
wants to play, there's an instrument there for
them. Doesn't mean we're done providing instruments. There's
others that are needed,
marching equipment and sousaphones and all these different
types of things and more orchestra. So you
had donated millions of dollars, and it's just
not Crescent City down north, but also our
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own Brookings Harbor here in
Brookings. You've got,
what is our what is our director of
music at Brookings? Corey Tamondong. Corey Tamondong. And
then Dan Sedgwick is still doing it in,
Del Norte at the high school,
The Warriors there in
in Del Norte and in Crested City.
You
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not only have just given these students and
these
schools
millions of dollars worth of instruments,
But you've also done something very unique and
please speak right off the cuff about this.
You you can you they're they're
they're repairing instruments
in Crescent City at the high school.
This is a this is a grand adventure.
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Before we moved up here in 2021,
back home for me after a slight absence
of fifty years
Opening and running Nick Rail music stores all
throughout the South? We we bought
a fully stocked repair shop and gave it
to the district
and because we knew we'd be giving all
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these instruments and we needed a place to
keep the instruments in good shape and maintain
them, otherwise they last half as long if
they're not seen or intended to on a
regular basis, and the superintendent, Jeff Harris,
was visionary enough to allow Dan Sedgwick to
start a repair class with five kids. Nobody
does that. Nobody repairs instruments these days. Right?
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I mean Well, nobody starts a class with
five students. Okay. I got you. Right. And
I got you too. That has grown to
a dedicated 20 by 50 foot square foot
20 by 50 square foot building. Wow. Eight
repair stations teaching
two classes,
every day of the week. We have about
25 students enrolled, and some go on to
vocational technical school and on to good jobs.
(44:12):
And,
there's only,
when we did that, we were the second
high school in The US to do that.
And now I think there are two or
three others. But that's
pretty rarefied. Leading the way. I mean, it
makes sense too. All the instruments out there,
we're a throwaway society, but no. With instruments,
it's a different story. If I wanted to
get my transverse flute fixed, would I can
(44:34):
can I just take it in there and
pay for some repair on it or not?
Yeah. Just talk to Dan. Talk to Dan
who always avoids us.
He won't get on the show. I've been
beating him away to the door. He's knocking
on his door a lot. He doesn't answer.
Alright. Okay.
Enough for that. Let's go back to the
PPA. Tell us about the big fundraising event
(44:55):
coming up. Yeah. The big September 21. Right?
September 21. Yes. Yeah. There's a lot of
fun to be had, especially if you like
to dance. Yeah. So for the older audience,
let's
mention the name Cab Calloway
back in the day,
and, if we move that forward seventy five
(45:15):
years, Big Bad Voodoo Daddy falls into that
mold. So starting back in the early nineties,
there was a resurgence of the swing band
movement and we had,
Brian Setzer and the Stray Cats, we had
the Squirrel Nutzipper, Zipory. We had Big Bad
Voodoo Daddy, a couple others that rose to
national prominence.
Big Bad Voodoo Daddy is the only one
left standing. They,
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they're based in Southern California.
The tenor sax player grew up in my
Santa Barbara store. I've known him since he
was 11, Carl Hunter.
Okay. And, known the bari sax player almost
as long, Andy Rowley,
and
this
group, if you like to dance,
they play a ninety minute set and if
they're being lazy, if they're loafing,
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there's ten seconds in between each song. Usually
it's five seconds. They just know it so
well. And they just go for it and,
at the end of the concert they're whopped
and you're whopped her.
Whopped her? And it's an outdoor event at
Azalea. Yes, Azalea Park, and the concert starts
at 3PM,
the doors open, the gate opens at
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2PM,
and
for those
that have to dance, difficult to dance on
a hillside, so we have a cordoned off
area right in front of the stage,
which is the VIP tickets. Those are a
$100
and limited to a 100 people. We'll have
a dance floor there and ask for people
that just
cannot sit still in their seats, on their
(46:40):
beach chairs, on their blankets.
And general tickets
are $50
and 20 and 21
18 and under are I get that. That's
our deal. Right there, $18. We're 18.
Yeah. Yeah. 18 and under $20. Shoot. And
this is a benefit Yeah. Concert. This is
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not a PPA is not making a dime
off it. We're putting
an enormous amount of energy, a lot of
moving parts, a lot of logistics.
The profit, 100% of the profit will go
to the music programs at Del Norte Unified
School District and Brookings Harbor School District, and
we're really excited about that. And,
we have
a whole host of sponsors. I can't remember
(47:24):
all of them,
so pardon if I don't list the whole
group, but Delaware County Office of ED,
Beacon Broadband,
Travel Curry County,
There's just a a a lot of different
span I apologize. I don't have them all
memorized. Yeah. Yeah. No problem. It is a
huge event. It's a fun Saturday. What kind
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of dancing is it? Ballroom dancing or Just
jump up and down and go for it,
the other thing. Yeah.
Jump. Are you gonna be dancing?
No. I'm on the logistics side of things,
and,
the concert starts at 3PM, and
we, we realized we had a golden opportunity
here for for for our youth, the students.
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So I talked to Corey and Dan at
the two high schools. They're gonna combine to
their jazz bands, and they're gonna open up
for Big Bad Voodoo Daddy with a short
opening set. Very cool. We've heard them. They
were good. Yeah. Yeah. They're really really this
is not a your average high school band.
These are really super top polished bands,
and they're combining their efforts, and they're gonna
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open up they're gonna do a cameo that's,
the openers for the headliner, Big Voodoo Daddy.
Yeah. So they'll they'll they'll go for fifteen,
twenty minutes, and then we'll spend ten minutes
properly thanking all the sponsors.
Here you go.
Doing a better job than I'm doing right
now.
And then ninety minutes straight of Big Bad
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Voodoo Daddy.
And for those that, don't get enough out
of the concert, we have another opportunity the
same day. Woah. So we're talking about, what,
06:00 now in the evening? Yeah. From six
to 08:30, we're having an after after concert
event
at
the Mini Ranch, Bolina. And Bolina is a
mini ranch owned by
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Dan and Kathy Bratton.
And where is that? Where is the just
South Of Brookings, just South Of Harbor on
the ocean,
seven and a half acres, and
Wow. We'll have two twenty by 40 foot
tents. It'll be catered by Seacquake. And,
Keith, who is the chef at Superfly,
will be doing sushi. We'll have barbecued oysters.
(49:33):
We'll have molly, beer, and wine, 21 and
above. Yeah.
And And for anybody that well, the 18,
I would and I'm out because 18 and
under. K. Yeah. This will be 21 and
above.
And that event is a $100 a person.
That's an addition.
An addition. Yes. Wait a minute. I can't
get in that. Oh, I'm talking about
(49:55):
crap. Okay. So are there gonna be the
the the voodoo people where would they be
there too so we can they can intermingle
with We get to have your one on
one voodoo moment with anybody you like. Yes.
Wow. Now that's cool. So these are two
separate events, but they are combined. So from
three to six is the music at the
at the party. Three to five. Three to
five. And then about an hour break. And
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then at six to eight, we pick out
up at, the address south of town or
in Harbor
out on seven acres. Sounds nice. With big
tents out there. And what is it called
again? The ranch?
It's called Bolina, B 0 L I N
A. And
how how do we access either of these?
We go to the PPA website, which is
(50:38):
ppadelnort.org.
Ppadellnorte.org.
And and Norte Norte is N 0 R
T E. Mhmm. Yes. And click on Events.
Okay. And click on
Hosted by PPA.
Okay.
And
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you will see
you will see, three things pop up. We
have a classical music series on the left
hand side, which starts this Sunday at the
Seventh day Adventist Church in Brookings. Which has
been going on for years. Right? You've had
this fortieth
year. Wow. Fortieth year recently. I went a
couple years ago to a couple of those.
They were really good. Who is it this
week? Who's coming? Dominic Chaley is a fantastic
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up and coming pianist,
and, he's he's, he's gonna please the audience.
I guarantee you. And those are $20 tickets,
right, to come in and see this? Yes.
18 and under are free for that. So
You're not 18 and under. Darn it.
Where's that time machine?
I'm in the shell in your car. Yeah.
Pianist. What is he? An accomplished pianist? Is
(51:42):
he Accomplished classical pianist. Yes. And, he's,
I wanna say I saw him a few
years ago when when I went to the
when I went up to and it's at
the Seventh Day Advent. Let's see a repeat.
When does it play? What time? That's at
3PM on Sunday. This coming Sunday. So Sunday
is what? Or I don't know. Do you
ever think The seventh. The seventh. Okay.
(52:02):
And that is September 7 at 01:00. 03:00.
I knew that. I was just testing you.
I'm writing this down as we go.
Oh my god. Okay.
Who finds all these people? I mean, this
is amazing.
Do you have a committee who finds people
to do? We have our board of directors.
We have our team.
Wow. We can't do it without the team.
It's nothing
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about the head chef here. I'm just another
person on a grand team. Yeah, but you're
on the show, so.
You are on the show, and this is
just in a few weeks from now. When
we toss coins And the thing will go
down. Will go down.
It is run by a board. How many
people are on the board? 12 people on
the board. I like that. Oh. Well, you
know what I I thought it has to
(52:44):
be, The more people you have on the
board, the better results. An uneven number? Because
Odd number? If you have, like, three or
four people on boards, guess what? There always
is a dictator.
But once you get ten, twelve, 15 people,
then it's it's an open
It's open and I think they're running better.
That's what I like.
Alright. Anyway,
so summarize.
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Okay. This, Sunday, you're gonna be able to
come at 03:00 to the Seventh Day Adventist
Church. Church in Brookings, California,
Oregon. Pardon me. And meet with listen to
Dominic
Celli. Celli. C h e l I.
And that will last for an hour, hour
and a half. Somewhere Hour and a half
to two. Usually hour and a half. Oh,
(53:26):
his fingers must be so sore after that.
And then on the big day of September
21 Yeah. We have the big event with
big voodoo daddy. Big bad Bad. Voodoo daddy.
Big bad voodoo daddy. I can see Michael
Gorrison there. Michael is We see that. He's
he's pointing himself. That's me. I'm big big
(53:47):
bad Michael.
And that is starting at three, and then
an after party starts at six. So you
can find out more by going to ppadelnorte.org
and click on event and then p a
PPA and you could buy tickets there. Yeah.
Yeah. And is there gonna be people can
you can we come up and is there
gonna be a tent where we could come
(54:07):
up and purchase a ticket on the day
of the event? If we don't sell out,
we don't plan on I mean, we're just
gonna scram more people in. Right? So bring
your bring your blankets, bring your chairs. Bring
chairs. That's right. We're planning on 750,
but Woah. If we look at
Music in the Park during the summer they
can take up to what 1,200 people there,
so there's room for more. Yeah. We don't
want to turn people away, and
(54:29):
the concert is a fundraiser
for the music departments
at Del Norte and Curry School Districts, and
the event at Dan and Kathy Bratton's is
a fundraiser for PPA. Right on. Okay.
Okay. We have got it down. Thank you,
Nick Rael for coming on to the Doc
and Jacques Show. We greatly appreciate it getting
all this information.
(54:49):
We are I've already said goodbye to
our Amanda Whittemore, our yoga lady who had
to leave, but we're set. And at this
point, I'm gonna relieve you of your duties.
You've got five minutes. You gotta be in
Crescent City in a half hour. Right? Yes.
And I'll close it with my
well worn but still,
what, your their motto?
(55:11):
Yes. Our our
our future is only as good as the
opportunities we provide for our youth. It's that
simple. Yeah. Very good. Just like that. Alright.
Cool. That's a good one, Brad. Thank you.
Thank you for having me. Thank
you so much. Nick, you are excused and
you may
exit stays left while doctor Gigi and I
have a little time here with fun time.
Corner.
(55:31):
Do I have any jokes?
Yeah. You better have some. But I have
some quotes. I'll start off with a quote.
Okay. Let's hear it. Yoga is the practice
of quieting
the mind. Where's Amanda when we need her?
Yeah. Right. I like that one. What's another
good quote, Doug?
Yoga is not about touching your
toes. It's not about touching toes?
(55:53):
Your toes. It is about what you learn
on the way down.
I like it. Hey, a man arrives at
a costume party with a girl on his
back. He says, I'm a turtle.
Well, who's on your back? People ask. Oh,
that's Michelle.
Did you say
with a gorilla on his back?
Yeah. Did you know, doc, that I can
(56:14):
communicate with vegetables?
Yes, sir. You Jacques and the Beanstalk.
K. Hey. Sort of fun. I recently heard,
that jokes about vegetables are very, very rare,
but I don't think that's necessarily
true.
Rare as in non cooked?
Yeah. Hey, folks. A woman fainted at the
(56:35):
airport yesterday and fell into the baggage carousel.
Doctors say that she is slowly coming around
now.
Come on. Hit us with another shot. Alright.
I have only one more quote. K. All
the months are crude experiments
out of which the perfect September is made,
Virginia Woolf. Kinda cool. Right? Yeah. That's the
(56:56):
only September one that I found. I can
always tell when someone is lying, doc. Wow.
I can also tell when they're standing too.
Yeah.
In two minutes. We just got in our
words. Okay. I have CDO, doc. What's that?
Well, it's like OCD,
but all the letters are in alphabetical order
as they should be.
Okay? Just to let you know. Ah, that's
(57:16):
funny. Thank goodness I went to a psychic
recently.
She told me that someone was gonna swindle
me out of some money.
That's the best $200 I've ever spent.
You would too.
I've got no problems with genetically modified food,
doc. No? Good. Well, last night, we had
a lovely lake of salmon.
(57:38):
For damn it. Okay.
I started that new diet and I it
just this morning, I entered everything
that I have eaten into my new fitness
app. Yeah. Right? And it's in an ambulance
to the house.
I'm a very light eater, actually. As soon
as the sun peaks over the horizon, I
start eating.
(58:02):
One whole minute left.
Okay. Well, the inventor of the umbrella was
originally going to call it umbrella,
but then she hesitated.
Okay. You're done. Okay. That was a good
one. Do you know who the inventor of
fractions was, right? Yoo hoo. Louis the one
sixteenth.
Okay. Okay, everybody.
You have been listening and laughing to the
(58:24):
Doc and Chuck show on KCLW
LP one hundred point seven FM in Brookings,
Oregon. We hope you have enjoyed our show
as much we have had with Nick and
Amanda.
Yeah. Been a lot of fun. Thank you
for listening.
You can reach out to us by going
to dacajock@gmail.com
and tell us what you have, and maybe
you could be on the show. Thank you
(58:45):
so much. Thanks again, Michael Borse, for filling
in as our sound engineer.
Peace and love, everybody. Goodbye.
Welcome,
welcome, welcome everyone.
You have now entered the cosmic radio receptors
of KCOW
one hundred point seven FM in Brookings, Oregon.
Thank you for tuning into this week's fan
fabulous program. I'm doctor Gigi, and my cohost
is, as always, Jacques Kepner. How are you,
Jacques? You? I am doing fine. Greetings, everyone,
(00:31):
and welcome to the Doc and Jacques Radio
Variety Show. Special thanks to sound engineer
Michael Gorse My pleasure. Who's in covering for
Tom and Ray who have been suffering from
a little, break of the what? Virus. The
c virus, the COVID virus.
Alright. I wanna mention that you're hearing this
live show on KCOW in Brookings, Oregon. That
said, the same show will be rebroadcast in
(00:53):
exactly one week from now, each and every
Wednesday at KZZH
ninety six point seven FM in Eureka, Humboldt
at 8AM
early in the morning. And then a few
hours later at 1PM on my old alma
mater,
KFUG
one hundred and one point one FM in
Crescent City. So now you know. Doctor Gigi
and I have your coast
covered.
I hope everyone enjoyed the Labor Day weekend
(01:15):
that we just has had last week. It
was nice and warm, and I went up
the river and I swam naked.
I don't I don't skinny dip. I chunky
dunk.
Okay. What medical marvels does my brilliant, multilingual,
German practicing physician,
hospice director, three time patent holding scientist in
DNA
(01:36):
genetics, and a major university
professor. What do you have for us on
this week's health segment of doctor Gigi?
Okay. Well, thank you again. We're talking about
cancer vaccines today. Thank you. Those are big
news recently. Right? Vaccines for Person for suggestion.
Cancer. Right. Chuck? Can we say Chuck did?
(01:58):
Chuck. He he suggested cancer proteins. Oh, did
Chuck hey, Chuck. Well, thank you for listening.
And thanks for a lot of other people.
Johnny Lantomimeyer, if you're out there, I said
hello to our guest today for you. Okay.
What about cancer vaccines? Alright. Vaccines work by
providing the immune system with a harmless
version of the pathogen.
(02:18):
Jackie, a pathogen is a sick maker.
A sick maker. I like that. Yeah. And
it allows it to produce antibodies
and memory cells
specific to that
sick maker pathogen.
This prepares the body to defend itself against
future infections with the same sick maker. Doctor.
June. Wow. The vaccine. Did you know you
(02:39):
cannot spell healthcare without THC?
Alright. Continue, please.
Cancer vaccines are to stimulate the body's immune
system to recognize
and destroy
cancer cells. They can be used both to
prevent cancer and to treat existing cancer. Woah.
What kind of
(03:00):
types of cancer vaccines are there? Oh, you
don't wanna give me statistics?
Alright.
So let's talk about the preventive cancer vaccines.
Alright. We already have some of them. These
vaccines are designed to prevent cancer by stimulating
the immune system to recognize
and fight
cancer causing
viruses or bacteria.
So we have viruses or bacteria that can
(03:22):
cause cancers. For example,
the HPV,
human papillomavirus
vaccine,
which prevents cervical cancer, and the hepatitis
b vaccine, which prevents liver cancer.
Wow. I went to see the worst faith
healer ever last night, doc. Yeah. He was
so bad, a guy in a wheelchair got
up and walked out.
(03:42):
Yeah.
Really did. Alright. What about therapeutic cancer? There
is therapeutic cancer vaccines for those that have
cans for people that have cancer. So they're
used to treat existing cancer.
So they can be made from actual tumor
cells. So the whole tumor cells or fragments
of those cancer or tumor cells can be
(04:03):
used to stimulate the immune system.
So you give that cancer cell the immune
system and they say, look what I found.
Let's make antibodies against it. Or you can
give little tiny they're called antigens, so just
little tiny pieces of that cell,
and you give that to the immune system
and then they make antibodies
against
(04:24):
those things that you gave them to eat.
K. And that is called targeted
immunotherapy.
Okay. And is it kinda like taking venom
for to make an anti venom
from a snake? Yeah. It's kind of like
that. Exactly. Yeah. I came over that. Pretty
deep,
Pretty good. Doctor
Jacques here.
(04:45):
What is the dentritic?
Is that what they're called? Yeah. That one
is a little bit another way, which I
actually wasn't gonna talk about it. Okay. That's
fine. I'm on the day 12 now, doctor,
without chocolate. And?
I've lost most of the hearing in my
left eye.
I really love chocolate. Okay.
Okay. So they're approved cancer vaccine There are.
(05:08):
That are now approved. Listen to this. Okay.
There is something called sipuleucel
t,
which is approved for the treatment of advanced
prostate cancer. Woah.
Then there is the bacillus calmette gueran
or BCG
vaccine, which was always
looked upon and
(05:28):
scoffed at.
It is approved for the treatment of early
stage bladder cancer. And why were we scoffing
at it? Because any TB test that you
do, like the little skin prick test, will
test positive if you have gotten that vaccine.
And they gave this vaccine to prevent TB
in other countries. When I had kidney cancer,
they also discovered while they were taking up
(05:49):
part of my kidney
that I had cancer on my bladder. So
they just scraped it. They just scraped it.
Done with it. And then I had that,
that infection,
and then you said urine trouble.
But no. They scraped it. I've been never
I've never come back 24 later. Knock them
wood. That's my head, everybody.
So the next vaccine k. Is an mRNA
(06:12):
vaccine, which is a brand really pretty much
a brand new type of therapeutic
cancer vaccine.
And it is currently being studied for
many, many several cancer types. And so this
is the little funny thing.
We or the science or whoever, those people
who work with it, they have learned a
(06:33):
lot of how to design it with the
COVID vaccines because they were the And they
got practice with COVID. Yeah. That's how they
got into designing it and saying, hey, hero.
Maybe we can make, cancer vaccines. So very
cool. Ultimately, you we all come
from dust, and we will return to dust
doctor. Yeah. That's why I don't dust. It
might be somebody I know.
(06:56):
Alright. Any limitations on any of these things?
So the limitations
are similar to those two of all vaccines.
Right? They may not be effective in all
patients like any other vaccine. They can have
side effects such as flu like symptoms
like any other vaccine.
They may require multiple doses or boosters
like any other vaccine. Vaccine is a vaccine
(07:19):
that's seen
on us. Crazy. So we do have these.
I saw the breast cancer, the stomach, and
they're they're right on the verge of releasing
a lot of these. I wonder how much
AI has to do with any of this.
Oh, I'm sure a lot, right? Right. They've
figured out. All the research that is in
the books and in the computers, AI can
get that information within seconds or minutes. K.
What else? So, there are some vaccines that
(07:41):
are called personalized mRNA vaccine, which is really
the newest of the new.
And what they're making is they're going to,
the person's
mutated DNA. So we get cancer because we
have mutations,
mistakes in the DNA
happening
through whatever,
through poisons or through the light or whatever
(08:02):
makes gives us our mutations. And then they
go in there and find the
broken gene pretty much
or the gene what it encodes for and
they make antibodies against that. So it's Woah.
Person
specific.
Very cool. You're losing that, but that's your
DNA background. Yeah. So we have the mRNA
vaccines that are in research
(08:24):
right now
for that. I used to be a schizophrenic,
but we are all all right now. Oh,
good for you. That's hard to say. Okay.
Good for me all.
Melanoma is the skin. The mRNA vaccines that
are in trial right now is, for example,
the melanoma. Melanoma is the skin cancer. K.
(08:45):
So personalized mRNA vaccines
with other stuff is being
in trial right now. Very cool. Pancreatic cancer?
Big one. Very big one. And especially, it
is a very quick one usually.
Pancreatic cancer is known to be a very
fast growing
cancer. So this the the things in trial
(09:07):
right now prolong
them healthy ish living with a cancer. Okay.
Colorectal,
lung, and prostate cancers
have
have started being in the mRNA
vaccine research.
Cool. And now the head and neck cancers,
the cool thing is sort of the cool
thing is that many of those are actually
(09:28):
caused by the same virus that caused cervical
causes cervical cancer, the HPV virus. So now
they are testing
maybe Gardasil or some other vaccine against HPV
to help with the head and neck cancers.
And this is coming up pretty soon, if
I'm not mistaken. Their trials are are Yeah.
We were all excited reading that, but really
the first mRNA
(09:49):
vaccines
maybe might be coming out in 2027
and or be approved
in 2029.
But, you know, this decade, I guess.
Cool. Well, that is very, very interesting, doc.
Thank you for talking about cancer. Thanks, Chuck,
for suggesting it. I kind of understood some
of it. That sounds okay. Some of
(10:10):
us understand more than others. In fact, a
new study has just come out proving
that seven out of every three people have
trouble with mathematical statistics.
Seriously.
Okay. Thank you again, doctor. That was interesting.
Alright.
Our first of two guests today, joins us
in the KCIW,
(10:31):
studio. And it's a woman who we have
heard many good things about, a good vibe
stories about. She practices an art form that
millions of people take very earnestly and millions
more are very interested in it. Without any
further verbiage for me, let's get right down
to the nuts and bolts of someone that
knows a lot about y
m oh, y o g a yoga. Yep.
(10:52):
Yoga.
Amanda Whittemore, is it? Yeah. Amanda Whittemore.
The welcome to the Doc and Jacques radio
variety show. Thank you, Doc and Jacques. My
pleasure. Yes. Welcome. Thanks for joining us. Yeah.
Cool. Do you,
Amanda Yoga? Is that I could I was
gonna say that. Yeah. I was gonna say
that yoga makes me look good naked. But
then again, alcohol does too.
(11:17):
You should try and mix them together. There
we go. Charley. Yeah.
Alright. Amanda, where were you born and raised?
Give us the background story. Yeah.
Fortunately
or unfortunately, I have, Las Vegas, Nevada.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. What brought you here?
My mother. Just doing a mending project with
healing the mother cord and, you know, as
(11:38):
we get older in our life journey and
we have
things that have you know, it's time to
make amends with certain things. Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. Mhmm. Tell us what is yoga.
What is
yoga? What is yoga? What is yoga? What
is yoga? Is it an abbreviation or is
it just
Right. Well, so what yoga is is everything.
(12:02):
Yoga is us. Yoga is breath. Yoga is
movement. Yoga is awareness,
consciousness,
being present.
Yoga literally translates to the word
to join.
To join. Join. Thank you. That was a
question I put on the list. I like
being yoga.
Yeah. To join. So we are all Do
(12:23):
you know the history of yoga? Who's joining?
So,
being a human, coming to Earth. Yeah. Being
a spirit, entering into a body,
and having your first breath.
It's there's
like many
spiritual connections or even a musical path where
they think the guitar came from here or
(12:43):
historically
this came from there.
I have a broad variety of teachers and
they all tell me that yoga came from
their lineage.
But what I learned in my own studies
is whether it's
Christian based or Buddha or,
Patagonian native Indians from Argentina
or from India,
(13:03):
they all have
movement and breath and nutrition and music. And
their their the origin is the human
coming to Earth.
Cool. So I think yoga if I think
of yoga, I think the yoga mat and
then you making the tree or the dog
The position. The asana.
(13:23):
Yeah. So asana is from Sanskrit is one
of the main languages that they still use.
One of our other teachers, he still uses
Spanish because he's the Argentinian
guy.
So it depends on the teacher. So the
language makes a difference of the frequency and
the vibration that comes through the body.
And
yoga
(13:43):
is eight main branches.
And the asana is mostly the position or
the movement or the posture that The United
States has kind of capitalized on and brought
into the gyms and fitness activity, which is
awesome.
And we're really grateful. It's
more meant to be
in of course, in group settings. However,
(14:06):
students get a better result if they do
a one on one session and if they
earned their own personal practice.
Then when you go to a group session,
you're more able to do the movements with
the people without any injuries.
Isn't it partially, with meditation? It goes well
with meditation. It's part of the It's It's
kinda go hand in hand. See how sitting,
(14:29):
reflecting on your day and meditation as it
can be anything. Right. And so having a
moment to yourself, even if it's in a
group, there's group meditation, but it is taking
time for yourself and receiving Are you putting
your muscles at a flexed
stressed
I mean, you're sitting there with I I
can't put my legs in those positions that
(14:49):
you might be able to attain. Well, this
is something funny is depending
on the proportion and the length of your
femur or your your arm, your the way
that your hips are placed, you may never
be able to do some of those positions
just because of the length and the of
the body.
Very. The body parts. What do you Okay.
So eight so there's eight parts to yoga.
(15:10):
Can you, like, sum them up? So one
of them is what we what I think
of yoga. Right? The mat and the poses?
Yeah. Or the other side? Eight branches.
Let's see them on the spot if I
can remember all of them. We have the
breath, the pranayama.
A big one. That's a huge one. We
have the meditation, the self reflection,
the yamas and the niyamas. So how we
(15:32):
see ourselves and how do we keep our
body clean, how do we keep our environment
clean, how do others see us,
how do we present ourselves.
Then we have the
Get close, forget about fire. Sound. Like, snack.
Okay.
So the frequencies
that we invite in and around our body,
(15:54):
Sound frequencies are important to how the body
responds if it's always,
as we know, if it's stress test. Yeah.
It's gonna
create an illness. If it's pleasant, it's going
to be peaceful. Right. And,
Vibration maybe? Or is that the sound?
So
sound also comes with music and things of
(16:16):
that nature.
Nutrition,
the the way that we eat,
how we eat. Is the food that we
are eating clean? Is it where is it
from? What is its source? What is that
funding producing? It's a whole conscious collective
of a way of living.
So when we do yoga, you really incorporate
all those things. You don't just
(16:38):
some people do. They just get in the
position. They go to the gym. Yeah. Others
really invite it as a whole lifestyle. Wow.
Totally cool. What got you into yoga besides
your mom, maybe?
No. So yoga started at a way younger
age. I just came to Brookings because of
my mom.
And how long ago did you come to
Brookings? 03/19/2019.
Not too long. We're all here about the
(16:59):
same time. Right? Yeah. Right? I have the
same same It's a big moment. And what
got me into yoga was a
for seriously to take serious take it seriously
was a car accident.
Horrible car accident.
And,
it just helped me get out of pain.
And a lot of people think, I can't
do yoga because I have an injury. Well,
that is the number one reason why we
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do it, is because we have an injury
and we want relief. Knee injuries, back injuries,
those are number one why we do yoga.
So you have I am in your own
program here in KCOW,
but that will come up a little bit.
So do you teach yoga?
Yes. I teach yoga. I teach geometric yoga
and that is an encompassed
(17:43):
way of saying all types of yoga because
there's
different teachers, different lineages, Hatha,
Bikram,
the 26 series,
Iyengar,
Vinyasa flow. There's,
you know, hot yoga, all the different Hot
yoga. That's what I Yeah. It's our favorite.
Right? Hot yoga. Where do you teach it,
(18:03):
all those different things. All day long? I
mean, you've I'm working on it. I am
working on it. Yeah. So SWOC invited me.
SWOCC,
the college here invited me to teach there.
I teach at REPS Gym. And then I
just got to open up the peaceful support
yoga center above Cascadia Pickleball
Zone
inside.
(18:24):
So they've got an upstairs unit, up there.
A multi purpose room and it's it's for
yoga.
Wow. But you really live yoga. Right? Oh,
yeah. You live yoga. Oh, yes. You try
to teach other people and not just the
positions, the downward dog or whatever.
What do you need to
practice yoga besides a yoga mat? Just kidding.
(18:45):
You don't even need a mat. I actually
recommend not using a mat. I recommend going
to the ocean.
I recommend utilizing the sand,
rocks, water,
a tree,
something with nature that connects to nature and
to our environment. Uh-huh. And if you're in
your own home, you know, socks are dangerous
in yoga,
but Socks are dangerous? Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. Okay.
(19:07):
Where you're gonna slide and yeah. Oh, because
you might slide. Yeah.
So it's good for old and young and
anything in between? Every person, every being, animals,
every human, every
situation,
majority of my teachers are
60 to 80 years.
Oh, wow. And they've been doing it thirty,
(19:28):
forty years and even their parents went on
forever. And
it really is for all ages. Kids
pick it up so naturally and it improves
our inner wellness,
our environment of our body.
Instead of being a stagnant body,
if we sit in the chair, we become
the chair.
We get up, we move,
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the whole immune system powers up, we have
no room to
get ill. We don't have time. The body's
functioning. The organs talk to each other.
Cool. Wow. Because I wish I'd have been
around when I was a kid.
Yoga is relatively
well, I'm 67, but it wasn't around, it
wasn't offered. I don't think I heard about
yoga until I got into college. Well, in
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different cultures and different
places in the world, they have done it
since then. They consider being in the womb.
As we move around,
we're connecting with our movements. And so it's
something that we've learned eternally. Right on. What's
the best thing about yoga for you?
The sensation.
The sensation. And the moment? Present moment? Yeah.
(20:31):
Yeah. How how we feel. Like, how you
feel from it is just it's an enlightenment.
It just feels
so good. It feels better than anything I've
ever done.
It was When did you actually, how old
were you? When was that car accident? How
old were you? Nineteen ninety nine. I was
19. Oh, wow. Okay. Mhmm. Alright. And yin
yang, if you got the best, is there
(20:53):
anything bad about yoga? What would be the
hardest part about that? The hardest part is
there's not enough time in the day to
do all the yoga that I wanna do.
Oh, my goodness. And you're teaching in three
different places, WAC and
REPS and Cascadia.
How cool that is. So how often do
you teach?
I try to teach at least one to
(21:13):
two, maybe three hours a day.
Wow. Teach the three hours. Mhmm. Teach. Okay.
So getting back to my earlier story, I
didn't even hear about adult college. Why doesn't
everyone in The United States why aren't we
practicing yoga? I mean, it just seems like
it's a meditative,
incredibly,
finding yourself vibing out. Why aren't we
(21:35):
why isn't everybody into yoga?
It's
it's spreading like a wildfire. The more people
acknowledge it, the more even in this town,
like, in Brookings,
the more people learn about it, the more
they want it, the more they request more
time for it. It's just education.
And when our channels,
whether it's radio,
(21:56):
thank goodness for this show, or it's television
or
series FM, whatever whatever internet is
marketing and selling,
it's really difficult to get past the big
presenters of,
how to encourage people to stay at home,
binge watch, and buy things.
(22:17):
Yeah. It's breaking through those barriers. We call
it break and teach
of how to really
encourage
positive
teaching.
K. Cool. I like it. So you'll have
your own KCIW
show.
Yeah. Tell us about it. What's it called?
It's called Quality Living with Peaceful Support.
(22:37):
Quality Living with Peaceful and when does it
play? When does it play? Monday nights at
06:30 and Saturdays at noon. Is it a
half hour show? Half hour show. Cool. And
how many shows have you had? 92.
We just yeah.
Right on. So is it where you're actually
practicing it? You're saying, okay, everybody take a
deep breath with me and
exhale.
Sometimes our guests, other teachers do that. I
(23:00):
give a platform for us to talk about
what is quality. Wow. What is living? How
does it feel to be alive to each
different person in the community or
what have you? Okay. One more time. The
name?
Your name of the show? The name of
the the show. Quality Living with Peaceful Support.
You guys should come on in and we
could do interview.
(23:22):
And it's time. We've just been invited to
where? Yeah. Hurry Cafe wants a Peaceful Support.
Okay. So quality lipo and it's it plays
at what times? 05:30PM
and,
sorry, 06:30PM on Mondays and noon on Saturdays.
And the best part is you can go
to kciw.0rg
and click on the show. Just search for
it and you can listen to it twenty
(23:43):
four seven and you can share it with
everyone in the world. This is the great
thing about all the shows on KCIW including
this one. You can always down download it
later and stream it at in our archives
and reach out to it. I'm doing, yoga
crunches twice a day now. You do? Cap'n
Crunch in the morning, Nestle Crunch at night.
Perfect.
I'm so sorry. What's up next for you?
(24:06):
Well, so we are building
an aerial studio
in
town. It's the building right there on the
corner of Fern And Spruce
or
not down. Right. Like, right at Spruce And
Fern. I think that's what it is. Yeah.
It's three story building. It's about twenty, twenty
five feet, and it will be able to
have 16 aerialists that will hang from some
(24:27):
fabric ribbons like this and it's supportive. It's
you can eventually get to Cirque du Soleil
level. However, the idea is to
feel supported, especially if you have an injury,
something to hold on to to build strength
and just
that's flat. So it's in a classroom setting?
It'll be there or you're hanging off the
side of the building?
Inside. Inside. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And it's the
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wasn't there a yoga shop up or am
I thinking of one right along Railroad Avenue?
Vassana. They're diagonal from us. They closed when
COVID hit. I was working with them quite
a bit, mentored with Lynn Hart and Carly.
With Lynn? Yeah. And I love them to
pieces. And they're still teaching classes in town
and doing so much fun, good
building things. Good, good, good people. So hanging
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support,
wrapping yourself up in
ropes and silks and things like that and
then Fabulous. How interesting, right? Mhmm. Very cool.
Yeah. I've seen it. It looks really cool.
Especially for people with injuries and coming back
because it's weight
If I want to start getting into yoga
Yeah.
And I wanted to just start slow, would
I should I enroll at SWOC or should
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I go to and I'm cost conscious. I'm
frugal. So I'm saying, do I go to
reps and join them? Do I pay for
the class at SWOK or should I come
and get lessons at Cascadia? What would you
do and how much are
is this an expensive undertaking?
If you've never done it before,
the major recommendation is to always get a
one on one.
Mhmm. If you have done it, join any
(25:54):
class and it's just your preference of the
environment that you're in. Some people cannot stand
being in the gym, other people can't stand
being in the yoga studio,
other people don't wanna see a college or
they love the college. It's all about your
environment. K. Cool. And so it could be
at the beach like you said too. Oh,
yeah. That's the favorite.
How not do people get a hold of
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you to to get more information?
You have a phone number. 530334.
334.
0595.
Okay. (530)
334-0595
is directly to you. That's your phone number.
(530)
334-0596.
How about a website? 0595.
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Oh, I knew that. 0595.
Apologies. That's okay. How about Facebook,
social media website? I try not to too
much. Okay.
It's just personal preference. Yeah. I love it.
It's out there. I do have ocean aerial
course for Instagram.
I'm not really interactive with it.
I choose not to have a website.
(26:57):
I do a lot of things with referral
only
and or show up to to one of
those classes. Well, you're sure they put yourself
out there with SWOC, the Southwest Oregon Community
College. Mhmm. And then at reps, when do
you teach your reps or just any Every
Wednesday at 05:30.
Okay. So and people can walk in then
and say, hey, I've just heard about Amanda
and I'd like to meet her. Would that
be a good time? Yeah. You can have
(27:17):
business cards right there and they'll hand you
one and say sign up for a personal
class with her and I can even train
you in the gym if you liked that
environment. Wow. Very cool. I'm glad we had
you on, for this to explain to our
listeners about yoga,
101, and we have heard such good things
about you. Seriously, a lot of people have
said, oh, you gotta talk to him, man.
(27:38):
She's totally cool. And we'll take you up
anytime.
If you want us on your show, I'll
be quiet. Absolutely. No no way. That's the
opposite of the point of having you on.
Hey, Walt. You've been listening to
Amanda, Widdemore here,
on the KCAW,
airwaves with the dock and shock. So thanks
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again, Amanda. Yeah. Thank you for coming in.
Doctor Gigi has been advising me to drink
less, sleep more, eat healthy, and practice yoga
every day, folks. Really. So you're hearing it
right now that from today on, I'm making
a huge change in my life.
I'm no longer gonna listen to doctor Gigi.
(28:19):
Today's second guest on the Doc and Jacques
Radio Variety Show
is a man many people respect and pay
attention to.
He is a veteran of the Doc and
Jacques Show and has appeared on multiple past
shows. This man is on a mission and
a lofty mission it is indeed.
Let's get right down to it and start
conversing with none other than Nick Rail. Welcome,
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Nick Rail. Welcome, Nick. Good afternoon. Great to
be here. Thank you. I think I finally
heard you chuckle a little bit more. Yeah.
One of the jokes made it.
Doctor, lead in. We've only got a minute
here before I have to break from halftime.
True that. Okay. So, Nick, I know you
are not, you're not boasting, but what is
your position and title? Just come out with
it. Let's see. Dishwasher,
(29:02):
Smurf,
Ron Promage.
I'm not much for titles.
Founder Ouch. Founder, president, chair of the Partnership
for the Performing Arts. That's p p a.
Okay. Let me stop right there. Let me
just get this over with folks because we
are already having so much fun. It's already
mid break. Time flies when you're having fun.
You're listening to
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KCIW one hundred point seven FM
located in lovely coastal Brookings, Oregon. The list
of major sponsors for this community radio station
are
Advanced Airlines, flying in and out of nearby
Crescent City to Oakland and LA seven days
a week. Doctor John Kirk's Porta Pints Craft
Brewery now in two locations and Tsunami Lanes
Bowling Center all in Crescent City. We have
(29:44):
Michelle Beaufort with our own vibrant local Curry
County Chamber of Commerce. We have the Crescent
Harbor Art Gallery in Crescent City are anchored
right next to the boats and then guess
who? Nick and Lisa Riel. Woo hoo. Yeah.
Nick and Lisa Riel, thank you. And the
PPA for the Partnership for the Performing Arts
for supporting this and becoming a major supporter
of community radio. Finally, we have the medical
(30:05):
team at Checkout Medical Anesthetics in Harbor. And
then, of course, we have doctor Reid, yourself,
and yours truly, Jacques Attenor. On behalf of
KCOW,
thanks to all of you. Back to Gigi
asking Nick Rail, our guest here in the
studio,
where were we? We were at what is
the PPA and when was it founded?
The Partnership for the Performing Arts is what
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PPA stands for,
and PPA was founded in 2021.
Oh.
And it's It's
four years old. And it's a five zero
one c three. Yeah. Five zero one c
three. We like that. Correct? Do you have
a mission do you have a mission statement
to fling at us?
Why have one when we can have three,
Gigi?
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So
Okay. Yeah. That's with your best shot. So
mission statement is to maximize the opportunities
for cultural enrichment in Del Norte and Curry
Counties through education,
performing arts, and civic activities.
Noble. Our vision statement,
transformation of an underserved community through improved access
to the arts,
creativity,
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education,
and excellence. Alright. And here's the three. Mhmm.
Values statement.
We lead with opportunity for our youth. We
believe in equal access to the arts. We
listen
and our door is always open. Very cool.
Very nice to meet you. And you are
an accessible guy. You know what? You're a
nice guy. Nick, everybody knows Nick. If you
don't know him, then you could always just
(31:28):
say, seek him out. You'll see him at
every kind of event.
The PPA is every always there with their
support,
with their big banners and whatnot. So you're
very accessible, very very good guy and intelligent.
And I'm not gonna talk anymore. I'll let
you talk. I'm gonna need a bigger hat.
I gotta send you my hat, Bill Jacques.
You got it. You got it. Alright. Tell
us give us an update about the PPA
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events that are performing
partnership for the performing arts events center coming
up.
Oh,
the,
This is the one in in Del Norte.
It'll be in Del Norte at the Yes.
In California. How's it going with that? So
the Performing Arts and Civic Center will be
built at Del Norte High School campus
on the north side of the campus, and
for those familiar with the campus, the building
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will be located where the gravel parking lot
is just south of the tennis courts. Tennis
courts. Yeah. Yeah. We drive by the tennis
courts. And, which border Washington Boulevard.
The tennis courts will be moved to accommodate
additional parking in proximity to the center. Oh,
good. Okay. Cool. Mhmm. And you've raised quite
a it's many millions to build this event.
It's so funny, right?
(32:32):
Yes. It's, it takes more than a couple,
Dollars. A couple sofas to,
in round numbers, this is a $50,000,000
project. Mhmm. And PPA is responsible for the
capital campaign,
design,
bid and build falls to the school district,
which will also own the facility and PPA
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will manage it and,
And it's serving both Del Norte and Curry
County? Curry County, right, both counties?
Yes, and
because we hold our youth so close the,
Del Norte Unified and Brookings Harbor School District
have first shot at the calendar,
community groups second. Nice. And
then, touring groups, etcetera, have,
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come in last. But the the good news
of being in a remote rural resource poor
area is there's enough room on the calendar
for everybody.
Right on. And speaking of calendars, when do
you hope that construction when are they when
would you like to see the first spade,
just be Pushing into the ground and thrown
over the shoulder.
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The
any specific date when you're looking at, like,
next year That could be. Couple years?
Well,
the bottom line is when we raise $50,000,000,
we're not there yet, but
Smooth. There's a Very smooth.
There's no question this is a heavy lift,
and the majority of our efforts to date
have been dedicated to laying the groundwork for
(33:56):
a successful campaign. Right. The the architectural plans
have been completed thanks to
California senator
pro tempore Mike McGuire's procurement of a $2,500,000
grant Nice. Back in November
2022
from the from the state, and the plans
are currently down in Sacramento
going through approval process. They're just about through
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with that. Wow. Very
nice.
Aside from the money, the the project is
basically shovel ready, and as we complete the
infrastructure
to guarantee a successful campaign,
we are confident we'll reach goal.
Construction will commence when the campaign is fully
funded, and the build out is roughly eighteen
months with the target of 2028
(34:40):
for the grand opening. Right on. Okay. And
we're talking about how many seats are there
gonna be in this approximately?
800 seats. Wow. So this is gonna be
fantastic, folks. We will have a large scale
internationally known,
event center that we could post all sorts
of things, both the county, all of Southern
Oregon can take advantage of this. Who wouldn't
(35:01):
like to come over and spend some time
on the coast? So you're still
not quite there, obviously, or you would start
tomorrow. So you're still looking for donations and
supporters?
Yes.
And,
How can they get to support and
donate to you or to the PPA?
They can write large chat.
(35:25):
Neck rail here on the on the air,
folks. He's funny on the chat. Hey.
Darn it, you're you're outdoing me. Let's let's
hit that nail right on the head.
It's it's no secret that we live in
a rural remote resource desert. Yeah. Meaning that
we'll have to knock on a lot of
doors to fully fund this campaign.
We are in the process of bringing in
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a number of partners
and thanks
to the
$2,500,000
grant, we're requisitioning
no. I'm sorry.
Thanks to a 2 and a half thousand
dollar grant from California. Difference there. A little
bit different. A couple zeros. Just zeros. What
the heck?
There's a and this
California Jobs First has a local chapter called
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Redwood Region Rise comprised of Delaware on both,
Lake And Mendocino Counties, and a number of
us were
applied for and were honored with a grant
from the state. Ours was 258,000
268,500
and we're using a good portion of that
to do a really top tier feasibility
(36:31):
study to
not show or demonstrate that the center can
be built,
but that we can keep the doors open
once the center is built. Yeah. So sustainability
is a big issue when we're going to
private foundations and corporations.
People get excited about building something, then they
get not so excited about what
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needs to happen to keep the doors open.
And
we're pretty confident that we are we've just
put out all of our requests for proposals.
We are starting interviews next week for this
feasibility
study, and
we feel very confident we're gonna get
good reports back from the entity that we
choose.
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We also have a 1,000,000,
federal earmark as it's called,
through Jared Huffman, US Congressman
for California Jared Huffman. We had a have
a federal earmark back in with the House
of Appropriations Committee. It just cleared that committee,
and, there are other hurdles to go through.
Yeah. You gotta is that in the tsunami
(37:33):
zone there? I didn't even think about that.
Is that in there? No. It's not in
the No. The tsunami zone goes up to
Ninth Street.
The the center is inside the city limits,
but outside the tsunami zone. And,
as such,
one of
the one a big deal for the center
is that it can be used. There's this
corridor. We got the airport. The school the
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school district has more data to offer the
county in times of emergency than the city
or the county.
Yeah. It could be used as a So
we have the
the gym for people to sleep in, we
got the cafeteria for food,
distribution, water, so forth, but a place, a
town hall meeting during times of emergency, and
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then we have the fire department just down
the street where the office of emergency services
is. Right next door to the football field
there. Right? So
it's it's very logical to have it there.
There currently
is no
adequate place for people to meet in times
of emergency. If we go back two years
to the fires in 2023
Down the Fairgrounds?
(38:35):
The fairgrounds in the Ardor Ag Building was
where people were meeting and it was also
the where the primary incident space was. Right.
There's one road in and one road out
and it's in the tsunami zone. That's
simply not adequate for a number of reasons.
Well, I know that,
money talks. Mine only says goodbye.
But I wanna tell you, you do put
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your money where the your mouth is and
you are a major,
supporter of this whole thing. Right? You
were one of the biggest
supporters or are you one of the bigger
supporters? I don't need to know how much.
Okay.
But you are. Right? And Lisa and I
publicly pledged,
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I don't remember what day or month it
was, but four or five years ago, a
million dollars to this project. Right on. And,
our entire we we believe in the kids
of this community so much. Our our our
entire estate, basically, we're more worth more dead
than alive.
When when we pass, the whole thing goes
to PPA to support
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all the outreach that PPA does in our
shared communities.
So Now, I wanna point out that you're
not just saying you believe in the youth
in the in the next generation because you
are also known as the benefactor
for the musical instruments
and
what you have done for the high school
and and other things that you prepare repair
(40:00):
musical instruments, give them out and help out
as which is for kids. Right? This is
our next generation that you do believe in.
You're right. Yes. The the center,
early days, we just call it the Performing
Arts Center, and as we study the revenue
streams in preparation
for the feasibility study, we realize
that in terms of revenue streams for the
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center,
the performing arts side of it will only
be maybe 50%
possibly left less than that for all the
other activities that can happen in the Center.
Corporate retreats,
talking to Dan Bratton, he says I get
calls all the time for people who wanna
come here, companies around The United States, but
there's no here here to come to.
(40:42):
There are very true hotels. There's motels and
hotels, but there's not any A big business
centers. Yeah. Yeah.
Corporate corporate retreats,
conferences.
One of my pet dreams is for
Cal Poly Humboldt, for example, to do an
international biodiversity conference on The Redwoods.
People would come worldwide to that. I mean,
(41:03):
it's just that would fulfill a dream. Everything
that happens with Redwoods and everything that lives
in the canopies above the Redwoods Yeah. That
are unique to the region.
The the lobby will seat a 150 people
at the round conference tables. We can have
wedding receptions there. We can have fundraisers there.
We can have a food truck extravaganza out
in the parking lot in front of the
(41:23):
lobby. Right on. There's,
all different types of events that can happen
there. When there's an emergency and the,
center has taken over
for meetings,
that's reimbursable
by FEMA.
Oh. So that's that is another legitimate revenue
stream. But getting back to the kids, yes,
if we look at it from a retail
(41:44):
dollar standpoint
Mhmm. We have given over $2,000,000
with the band and orchestra
instruments to Del Norte,
Unified School District and Brookings Harbor School District.
And this is a personal victory to me
because when I was growing up,
I still don't know how my parents afforded
an instrument for me. It's still a mystery
to me. We did He grew up in
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Crescent City too, in here in our region.
And now
there are enough instruments that any child who
wants to play, there's an instrument there for
them. Doesn't mean we're done providing instruments. There's
others that are needed,
marching equipment and sousaphones and all these different
types of things and more orchestra. So you
had donated millions of dollars, and it's just
not Crescent City down north, but also our
(42:25):
own Brookings Harbor here in
Brookings. You've got,
what is our what is our director of
music at Brookings? Corey Tamondong. Corey Tamondong. And
then Dan Sedgwick is still doing it in,
Del Norte at the high school,
The Warriors there in
in Del Norte and in Crested City.
You
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not only have just given these students and
these
schools
millions of dollars worth of instruments,
But you've also done something very unique and
please speak right off the cuff about this.
You you can you they're they're
they're repairing instruments
in Crescent City at the high school.
This is a this is a grand adventure.
(43:08):
Before we moved up here in 2021,
back home for me after a slight absence
of fifty years
Opening and running Nick Rail music stores all
throughout the South? We we bought
a fully stocked repair shop and gave it
to the district
and because we knew we'd be giving all
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these instruments and we needed a place to
keep the instruments in good shape and maintain
them, otherwise they last half as long if
they're not seen or intended to on a
regular basis, and the superintendent, Jeff Harris,
was visionary enough to allow Dan Sedgwick to
start a repair class with five kids. Nobody
does that. Nobody repairs instruments these days. Right?
(43:51):
I mean Well, nobody starts a class with
five students. Okay. I got you. Right. And
I got you too. That has grown to
a dedicated 20 by 50 foot square foot
20 by 50 square foot building. Wow. Eight
repair stations teaching
two classes,
every day of the week. We have about
25 students enrolled, and some go on to
vocational technical school and on to good jobs.
(44:12):
And,
there's only,
when we did that, we were the second
high school in The US to do that.
And now I think there are two or
three others. But that's
pretty rarefied. Leading the way. I mean, it
makes sense too. All the instruments out there,
we're a throwaway society, but no. With instruments,
it's a different story. If I wanted to
get my transverse flute fixed, would I can
(44:34):
can I just take it in there and
pay for some repair on it or not?
Yeah. Just talk to Dan. Talk to Dan
who always avoids us.
He won't get on the show. I've been
beating him away to the door. He's knocking
on his door a lot. He doesn't answer.
Alright. Okay.
Enough for that. Let's go back to the
PPA. Tell us about the big fundraising event
(44:55):
coming up. Yeah. The big September 21. Right?
September 21. Yes. Yeah. There's a lot of
fun to be had, especially if you like
to dance. Yeah. So for the older audience,
let's
mention the name Cab Calloway
back in the day,
and, if we move that forward seventy five
(45:15):
years, Big Bad Voodoo Daddy falls into that
mold. So starting back in the early nineties,
there was a resurgence of the swing band
movement and we had,
Brian Setzer and the Stray Cats, we had
the Squirrel Nutzipper, Zipory. We had Big Bad
Voodoo Daddy, a couple others that rose to
national prominence.
Big Bad Voodoo Daddy is the only one
left standing. They,
(45:36):
they're based in Southern California.
The tenor sax player grew up in my
Santa Barbara store. I've known him since he
was 11, Carl Hunter.
Okay. And, known the bari sax player almost
as long, Andy Rowley,
and
this
group, if you like to dance,
they play a ninety minute set and if
they're being lazy, if they're loafing,
(45:57):
there's ten seconds in between each song. Usually
it's five seconds. They just know it so
well. And they just go for it and,
at the end of the concert they're whopped
and you're whopped her.
Whopped her? And it's an outdoor event at
Azalea. Yes, Azalea Park, and the concert starts
at 3PM,
the doors open, the gate opens at
(46:19):
2PM,
and
for those
that have to dance, difficult to dance on
a hillside, so we have a cordoned off
area right in front of the stage,
which is the VIP tickets. Those are a
$100
and limited to a 100 people. We'll have
a dance floor there and ask for people
that just
cannot sit still in their seats, on their
(46:40):
beach chairs, on their blankets.
And general tickets
are $50
and 20 and 21
18 and under are I get that. That's
our deal. Right there, $18. We're 18.
Yeah. Yeah. 18 and under $20. Shoot. And
this is a benefit Yeah. Concert. This is
(47:01):
not a PPA is not making a dime
off it. We're putting
an enormous amount of energy, a lot of
moving parts, a lot of logistics.
The profit, 100% of the profit will go
to the music programs at Del Norte Unified
School District and Brookings Harbor School District, and
we're really excited about that. And,
we have
a whole host of sponsors. I can't remember
(47:24):
all of them,
so pardon if I don't list the whole
group, but Delaware County Office of ED,
Beacon Broadband,
Travel Curry County,
There's just a a a lot of different
span I apologize. I don't have them all
memorized. Yeah. Yeah. No problem. It is a
huge event. It's a fun Saturday. What kind
(47:46):
of dancing is it? Ballroom dancing or Just
jump up and down and go for it,
the other thing. Yeah.
Jump. Are you gonna be dancing?
No. I'm on the logistics side of things,
and,
the concert starts at 3PM, and
we, we realized we had a golden opportunity
here for for for our youth, the students.
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So I talked to Corey and Dan at
the two high schools. They're gonna combine to
their jazz bands, and they're gonna open up
for Big Bad Voodoo Daddy with a short
opening set. Very cool. We've heard them. They
were good. Yeah. Yeah. They're really really this
is not a your average high school band.
These are really super top polished bands,
and they're combining their efforts, and they're gonna
(48:28):
open up they're gonna do a cameo that's,
the openers for the headliner, Big Voodoo Daddy.
Yeah. So they'll they'll they'll go for fifteen,
twenty minutes, and then we'll spend ten minutes
properly thanking all the sponsors.
Here you go.
Doing a better job than I'm doing right
now.
And then ninety minutes straight of Big Bad
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Voodoo Daddy.
And for those that, don't get enough out
of the concert, we have another opportunity the
same day. Woah. So we're talking about, what,
06:00 now in the evening? Yeah. From six
to 08:30, we're having an after after concert
event
at
the Mini Ranch, Bolina. And Bolina is a
mini ranch owned by
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Dan and Kathy Bratton.
And where is that? Where is the just
South Of Brookings, just South Of Harbor on
the ocean,
seven and a half acres, and
Wow. We'll have two twenty by 40 foot
tents. It'll be catered by Seacquake. And,
Keith, who is the chef at Superfly,
will be doing sushi. We'll have barbecued oysters.
(49:33):
We'll have molly, beer, and wine, 21 and
above. Yeah.
And And for anybody that well, the 18,
I would and I'm out because 18 and
under. K. Yeah. This will be 21 and
above.
And that event is a $100 a person.
That's an addition.
An addition. Yes. Wait a minute. I can't
get in that. Oh, I'm talking about
(49:55):
crap. Okay. So are there gonna be the
the the voodoo people where would they be
there too so we can they can intermingle
with We get to have your one on
one voodoo moment with anybody you like. Yes.
Wow. Now that's cool. So these are two
separate events, but they are combined. So from
three to six is the music at the
at the party. Three to five. Three to
five. And then about an hour break. And
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then at six to eight, we pick out
up at, the address south of town or
in Harbor
out on seven acres. Sounds nice. With big
tents out there. And what is it called
again? The ranch?
It's called Bolina, B 0 L I N
A. And
how how do we access either of these?
We go to the PPA website, which is
(50:38):
ppadelnort.org.
Ppadellnorte.org.
And and Norte Norte is N 0 R
T E. Mhmm. Yes. And click on Events.
Okay. And click on
Hosted by PPA.
Okay.
And
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you will see
you will see, three things pop up. We
have a classical music series on the left
hand side, which starts this Sunday at the
Seventh day Adventist Church in Brookings. Which has
been going on for years. Right? You've had
this fortieth
year. Wow. Fortieth year recently. I went a
couple years ago to a couple of those.
They were really good. Who is it this
week? Who's coming? Dominic Chaley is a fantastic
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up and coming pianist,
and, he's he's, he's gonna please the audience.
I guarantee you. And those are $20 tickets,
right, to come in and see this? Yes.
18 and under are free for that. So
You're not 18 and under. Darn it.
Where's that time machine?
I'm in the shell in your car. Yeah.
Pianist. What is he? An accomplished pianist? Is
(51:42):
he Accomplished classical pianist. Yes. And, he's,
I wanna say I saw him a few
years ago when when I went to the
when I went up to and it's at
the Seventh Day Advent. Let's see a repeat.
When does it play? What time? That's at
3PM on Sunday. This coming Sunday. So Sunday
is what? Or I don't know. Do you
ever think The seventh. The seventh. Okay.
(52:02):
And that is September 7 at 01:00. 03:00.
I knew that. I was just testing you.
I'm writing this down as we go.
Oh my god. Okay.
Who finds all these people? I mean, this
is amazing.
Do you have a committee who finds people
to do? We have our board of directors.
We have our team.
Wow. We can't do it without the team.
It's nothing
(52:24):
about the head chef here. I'm just another
person on a grand team. Yeah, but you're
on the show, so.
You are on the show, and this is
just in a few weeks from now. When
we toss coins And the thing will go
down. Will go down.
It is run by a board. How many
people are on the board? 12 people on
the board. I like that. Oh. Well, you
know what I I thought it has to
(52:44):
be, The more people you have on the
board, the better results. An uneven number? Because
Odd number? If you have, like, three or
four people on boards, guess what? There always
is a dictator.
But once you get ten, twelve, 15 people,
then it's it's an open
It's open and I think they're running better.
That's what I like.
Alright. Anyway,
so summarize.
(53:05):
Okay. This, Sunday, you're gonna be able to
come at 03:00 to the Seventh Day Adventist
Church. Church in Brookings, California,
Oregon. Pardon me. And meet with listen to
Dominic
Celli. Celli. C h e l I.
And that will last for an hour, hour
and a half. Somewhere Hour and a half
to two. Usually hour and a half. Oh,
(53:26):
his fingers must be so sore after that.
And then on the big day of September
21 Yeah. We have the big event with
big voodoo daddy. Big bad Bad. Voodoo daddy.
Big bad voodoo daddy. I can see Michael
Gorrison there. Michael is We see that. He's
he's pointing himself. That's me. I'm big big
(53:47):
bad Michael.
And that is starting at three, and then
an after party starts at six. So you
can find out more by going to ppadelnorte.org
and click on event and then p a
PPA and you could buy tickets there. Yeah.
Yeah. And is there gonna be people can
you can we come up and is there
gonna be a tent where we could come
(54:07):
up and purchase a ticket on the day
of the event? If we don't sell out,
we don't plan on I mean, we're just
gonna scram more people in. Right? So bring
your bring your blankets, bring your chairs. Bring
chairs. That's right. We're planning on 750,
but Woah. If we look at
Music in the Park during the summer they
can take up to what 1,200 people there,
so there's room for more. Yeah. We don't
want to turn people away, and
(54:29):
the concert is a fundraiser
for the music departments
at Del Norte and Curry School Districts, and
the event at Dan and Kathy Bratton's is
a fundraiser for PPA. Right on. Okay.
Okay. We have got it down. Thank you,
Nick Rael for coming on to the Doc
and Jacques Show. We greatly appreciate it getting
all this information.
(54:49):
We are I've already said goodbye to
our Amanda Whittemore, our yoga lady who had
to leave, but we're set. And at this
point, I'm gonna relieve you of your duties.
You've got five minutes. You gotta be in
Crescent City in a half hour. Right? Yes.
And I'll close it with my
well worn but still,
what, your their motto?
(55:11):
Yes. Our our
our future is only as good as the
opportunities we provide for our youth. It's that
simple. Yeah. Very good. Just like that. Alright.
Cool. That's a good one, Brad. Thank you.
Thank you for having me. Thank
you so much. Nick, you are excused and
you may
exit stays left while doctor Gigi and I
have a little time here with fun time.
Corner.
(55:31):
Do I have any jokes?
Yeah. You better have some. But I have
some quotes. I'll start off with a quote.
Okay. Let's hear it. Yoga is the practice
of quieting
the mind. Where's Amanda when we need her?
Yeah. Right. I like that one. What's another
good quote, Doug?
Yoga is not about touching your
toes. It's not about touching toes?
(55:53):
Your toes. It is about what you learn
on the way down.
I like it. Hey, a man arrives at
a costume party with a girl on his
back. He says, I'm a turtle.
Well, who's on your back? People ask. Oh,
that's Michelle.
Did you say
with a gorilla on his back?
Yeah. Did you know, doc, that I can
(56:14):
communicate with vegetables?
Yes, sir. You Jacques and the Beanstalk.
K. Hey. Sort of fun. I recently heard,
that jokes about vegetables are very, very rare,
but I don't think that's necessarily
true.
Rare as in non cooked?
Yeah. Hey, folks. A woman fainted at the
(56:35):
airport yesterday and fell into the baggage carousel.
Doctors say that she is slowly coming around
now.
Come on. Hit us with another shot. Alright.
I have only one more quote. K. All
the months are crude experiments
out of which the perfect September is made,
Virginia Woolf. Kinda cool. Right? Yeah. That's the
(56:56):
only September one that I found. I can
always tell when someone is lying, doc. Wow.
I can also tell when they're standing too.
Yeah.
In two minutes. We just got in our
words. Okay. I have CDO, doc. What's that?
Well, it's like OCD,
but all the letters are in alphabetical order
as they should be.
Okay? Just to let you know. Ah, that's
(57:16):
funny. Thank goodness I went to a psychic
recently.
She told me that someone was gonna swindle
me out of some money.
That's the best $200 I've ever spent.
You would too.
I've got no problems with genetically modified food,
doc. No? Good. Well, last night, we had
a lovely lake of salmon.
(57:38):
For damn it. Okay.
I started that new diet and I it
just this morning, I entered everything
that I have eaten into my new fitness
app. Yeah. Right? And it's in an ambulance
to the house.
I'm a very light eater, actually. As soon
as the sun peaks over the horizon, I
start eating.
(58:02):
One whole minute left.
Okay. Well, the inventor of the umbrella was
originally going to call it umbrella,
but then she hesitated.
Okay. You're done. Okay. That was a good
one. Do you know who the inventor of
fractions was, right? Yoo hoo. Louis the one
sixteenth.
Okay. Okay, everybody.
You have been listening and laughing to the
(58:24):
Doc and Chuck show on KCLW
LP one hundred point seven FM in Brookings,
Oregon. We hope you have enjoyed our show
as much we have had with Nick and
Amanda.
Yeah. Been a lot of fun. Thank you
for listening.
You can reach out to us by going
to dacajock@gmail.com
and tell us what you have, and maybe
you could be on the show. Thank you
(58:45):
so much. Thanks again, Michael Borse, for filling
in as our sound engineer.
Peace and love, everybody. Goodbye.
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