June 9, 2025 • 28 mins
In this episode of Joyously Free!, host Joanie Lindenmeyer explores the vibrant world of community theater with guests Karyn-Lynn (Effie) Fisette and Kat Liddell, focusing on its transformative impact, opportunities for involvement, and the joy it brings. Kat shares her lifelong passion for acting, emphasizing the authenticity and deep audience connections theater offers, while Effie […]
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Hi. Welcome KCIW listeners at one hundred point
seven and kciw.org
Brookings, Oregon.
You know the routine. I say the morning
greeting, which is it's a brand new day,
and you get to respond with never been
lived before. We're gonna see if you can
catch on as well as the two guests
I have with me today. So here we
go. It's a brand new day.
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Never been lived before. Oh my gosh. Is
that in symphony or what? Thank you. Thank
you. Thank you. So welcome to Joyously Free
with none better than me, Joni Lindenmeyer. Yes.
I'm the best selling author and a resident
of Harbor, Oregon for thirty four years. Unbelievable.
So this radio, GADIO show, is a show
that talks about LGBTQ
stories and tips along with religion, church, faith,
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and spirituality.
Of course, it's all centered around joy, the
freedom, the courage, and the confidence to exude
that. The purpose of the show is, of
course, to share that joy and that freedom,
hence the title Joyously Free, which came from
my book that I coauthored with Elizabeth Ann
Atkins of 2sisterswriting.com.
And, yes, it is up for a Lambda
nomination.
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I will know July 30 if we are
winners or not. But moving on, that book
has just entitled and and
sprung the joy out of so many people,
and that's what we're gonna hear from today.
We're gonna seek understanding. We're gonna think out
of the box. We're gonna know that abundant
love and gratefulness is all around us and
within all of our friends and family right
here on the coast. We will know that
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God, whatever name you put on that God,
is around us and in us, so we
do not need to be troubled, afraid, or
saddened.
In fact, in our presentation today, again with
my life, there's no hate speech,
no hate behaviors, and no bullying.
We will keep things blasted with the three
c's, courage, confidence, and collaboration.
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In the Northern California Coast and the Southern
Oregon area that we live in, we hope
that all listeners will appreciate this podcast today.
Our special guests are sitting right across from
me. I'm gonna give you a couple little
names here, and you might be able to
figure out who and where they're from. One
is named Kat and one is named Effie.
So think about that for a but we're
gonna do our prayer
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And our prayer today is a quote that
I found, and I think it is so
apropos of our discussion.
Here's the quote.
Acting is not about being famous. It's about
exploring the human soul.
So let's take a deep breath in
and let it out with doubt.
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Take another deep breath in
with joy
and out with fear.
Let's take another big deep breath in
knowing that we are spiritual beings as well
as human beings.
I'm going to read this quote one more
time.
Acting is not about being famous.
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It's about exploring the human soul.
When I read that this morning, the human
soul of myself
just
exploded
with peace.
Yes. Exploded. It's a burst of peace. It's
it's not just something that you sit quietly
and and just stare. There's something inside me
that moves from my my baby toe up
to the hair on my head that says,
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peace is joy and joy is peace,
and that is the soul.
Our bodies will eventually die, but our soul
lives on forever.
And if you've been through any kind of
grief with a beloved, you know exactly what
that means.
So those were my little thoughts for today.
Our holy God, creator God, and Jesus the
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spirit,
guard us and guide us and guard us
today as we do our beautiful life.
So here we go. I am excited to
introduce everybody to our special guests,
friends and colleagues in one sense. We have
Karen Lynn Fassett, also known as Effie, my
dear friend Effie, and Kat Liddell, who you
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all might know from, and she's gonna tell
you where she's from. But our topic our
topic with these two beautiful
people, the joyously free world of community theater.
Yes. Community theater and the joyously free world.
Welcome, Effie. Welcome, Kat, to joyously free. Hey,
Joni. Thanks for having us today. Oh my
gosh. My pleasure. My pleasure. How are we
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doing?
Oh, gosh. I mean, it's just such a
gorgeous day. It's such a gorgeous start to
June. Like, it just feels like summer's already
here, and and I'm feeling that in my
heart and my soul right now. Right on.
Right on. Basking in the glow of summer
even though summer's not even here. Right. Right.
Effie, how about you? How are you doing
today? I concur with what Kat said. I
am enjoying this
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good gardening weather.
Yes. Yes. The sun rays are incredible, aren't
they? Yep. The warmth. The sun. Yes. You
know, and speaking of June and speaking of
summer, we've got an exciting week coming on
because this coming Saturday, June 7, will be
Crescent or not Crescent City, Brookings Pride. Crescent
City Pride is the June 21. But this
weekend is the Brookings Pride. I have a
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couple book events before that. I'll be Thursday
at Forecastle Books. Mhmm. And, Friday, I'll be
up in Port Orford Library, all from four
to six. But Pride is gonna run on
Saturday.
Who remembers the times? Saturday, it's gonna be
running from, I think, eleven to three. That's
what I heard too. Is that word that
I heard on the street on that one.
Yes. Yeah. The word on the street. I
love it. I love it. No. And it's,
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the the fun thing for me about, Pride
in Brookings, it's like but it's a whole
Pride in the Park event. So, you know,
they take over the band shell. We have
some some vendors, some some good food, community
meal. Free community meal, you know? Yes. Like,
good music, good people, just us. There's gonna
be a fun silent auction, you know. It's
yeah. Just a good time. A good time
all around. Free face painting. Exactly. Free face
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painting. Who doesn't love free face painting? I
I don't. I I do. And I love
it when they do it on me. You
know, I'm not the one doing it with
you. Have to do it, but what yeah.
Somebody is actually, like, painting you. That's my
comfort zone as well. I'm Perfect. Perfect. And
and I guess that reminds me of our
topic of of acting, community theater. We don't
act at Pride. We are our true selves.
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And everybody is there as their true self,
their allies and or on the LGBTQ spectrum.
But in terms of acting, you know, I
have seen straight people act like gays. I've
seen gay people act like straights in theater.
Mhmm. But I wanna jump into both of
you. How did the two of you meet?
Oh my gosh. Like, it's it's been a
couple years now, it feels like. I met
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through Jamie. I know. Westby. Yeah. A mutual
friend Mhmm. Who is a filmmaker
in Portland.
And I moved here from Portland
and was seeking
community
Mhmm. And thought, okay. I will find
folks with, you know, shared values in that
world of theater. Mhmm.
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And
my friend James said, you need to meet
Todd and Jason and all these folks with
Threepenny Theatre.
And so that was my attempt at building
community here. And it was all thanks to
James.
And and theater. Yeah. Yes. Yes. And how
long have you been involved in theater, Kat?
I see you all around performing and and
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take take me back to, like, your your
initial days of theater. Yeah. So, I mean,
I grew up,
like, when I was a a child and
the the Checo Pelican Players were based out
of a a performing arts center in Harbor
above the DMV.
I remember that. That was located about a
half mile from my my house. And, when
I was little,
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every chance that I got, because you could
get in for for, like, less than $5
when you were a kid there to see
a play, I would walk down there and
I would watch whatever show was was playing
on the matinees. And I'd be there every
single matinee because I loved it so much.
I found it so captivating.
So, like, from elementary school. And then when
I turned 12, I I finally I got
the I gathered up the nerve to try
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out for a play, and I've been doing
it for about well, it's gonna be about
twenty, twenty one, twenty two years now. Oh
my gosh. Ever since then. Yeah. Oh my
god. Yeah. So it's it's been, like, all
through high school, I I was involved in
theater.
And when I moved back here in 2014,
I immediately got back on the stage. So
just a constant thing. It's a constant presence
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in my life, and it brings me a
ton of joy. A ton of joy. And
I have seen you perform, and you bring
a ton of joy to that stage. Oh,
shucks. Oh my god. From your, your, what
do I wanna call it? Your your
what do you call it? When your movements
all your movements Yeah. Yeah. You know? And
and then your facial expressions blow me away.
And, of course, your voice. And and I've
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even heard you at the library read stories.
Oh my gosh. You have such a theatrical
voice. Oh, golly. Thank you. Yes. Yeah. I
have a face and a and a voice
for radio, you know, as people like to
say.
Yes. Yes. Yeah. It's, it's been really fun,
doing plays here. And part of the reason
it is so much fun, besides just, like,
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the
the joy that you get in expressing yourself
in theater because you mentioned, like, you know,
there's no acting at Pride. We're all being
our authentic selves.
There's, like, when you're acting, it's really nice
to be able to to find the authenticity
in your performance too. Just because you're up
there acting doesn't mean you're not being your
authentic self necessarily. So That's right. And that's,
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like, kinda like, a happy place for me.
That's where I feel like my most authentic
self is when I'm performing on the stage.
I don't know. It's just something that's always
been home for me. It's the true cat
expression. I guess so. I guess so. Effie,
how about you? Have have you been a
theater buff as well in terms of your
acting career? No. I have,
a very limited acting career.
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Kat has been witness to it. Okay. Tell
us more. But I I was involved in
theater in high school and in college,
but backstage.
And I am a Oh. A backstage person.
Okay. So,
but I I love what Kat just said
about
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finding that authenticity
in the performance.
And,
Kat offered me an opportunity for right or
wrong to be in
The Vagina Monologues, which we put on last
year. Yes. And Wonderful.
It
that felt very authentic
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to me. And just to kind of piggyback
on that idea,
I felt like acting
and for me, truly, acting
in earnest for the time in that show
felt like, oh, I'm finding
parts of myself in this role
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that I haven't necessarily
expressed out loud. I'm definitely never on a
stage. So And within our small community. And
in a small community. And I love that
that show
probably challenged a lot of people,
in a really meaningful
way and asked them to exercise
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empathy and courage and imagination.
And,
yeah. Yeah. Excellent words. Challenge,
imagination.
Yes.
I saw your head nod a little bit.
Oh, yeah. No. That was it was an
incredible experience putting on that play. We weren't
sure how it was gonna be received. It's
a very intimate topic, obviously, by by virtue
of the the title and in a very
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small community. And it was incredible to see
the positive community response to that. I mean,
we had several sold out houses, and and
the audience was just so, like, warm and
giving and had great feedback for everybody. I
mean, you could hear them, like, murmuring, like,
you know, like, their their thoughts on the
matter as people were giving their monologues. But
not in, like, a disruptive way, but, like,
that they were actually, like, experiencing and feeling
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those emotions,
which is exactly what we wanna accomplish when
we're putting on a good theatrical production is
people all in the same room kind of
just
communal
kind of community oriented way. So
it was, yeah, it was such a great
show. And Effie did amazing.
Oh, hi Oh, hi, Tess. Thank you. Hi,
Tess. Way to go. Way to go. And
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that that also, I think I don't know
if this I I'm going to assume this
is your experience, Kat.
But that feedback from the community
extended far beyond, like, way outside
the walls of the event center. And I've
had a couple people stop me in Grocery
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Outlet Mhmm. And say, were you in that
place?
And you turn around and say, who? Me?
Yeah. Or they'll just, you know, I've had
strangers approach and say, I saw you in
that what are you doing next? You know,
what's 3p up to? And we love having
3p and down. Great. Let's talk about that.
Let's jump right into it. It's a great
interlude there. Yeah. Threepenny. Alright. You and Jason.
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Yeah. We're, we're we're relatively new theater company
in town. We only, we we informally got
together and put on our production in 2023,
And it was a two hander play called
Venus and Fur that me and Jason just
took money out of our savings and went,
hey, I'd like to try and make a
play happen. You know, this is a project
that we've been passionate about for a minute.
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And if, we wanna make it happen, we
gotta make it happen.
So that went well. It was a dark
comedy. People it was well received. And,
and we decided, well,
a really good way to kinda get things
off the ground and the what we wanna
accomplish by bringing, like, accessible, affordable theater and
kind of a pop up theater experience for
people, like, the, you know, nontraditional spaces
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was to become a nonprofit. So we became
a nonprofit in 2024, about the time that
we did the Vagina Monologues.
Have had a couple more shows since then.
And, we're working, we're now in our our
starting our year of operations.
Congratulations. Yes. And we're working on probably one
of our most ambitious projects yet. We're currently
in rehearsals for the complete works of William
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Shakespeare, abridged revised
again.
Woah. It's a crazy comedy.
It is, imagine the concept is,
three doofuses try to teach the masses about
Shakespeare's entire canon in ninety minutes or less.
Wow. Yeah. Yeah. I think Monty Python does
Shakespeare. It's,
it's there's a ton of physical comedy. There
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is so much humor in it. You don't
need to understand or or be familiar with
Shakespeare at all to get laughs out of
it and enjoy it. It's I laughs
out
of it and enjoy it. It's actually the
play that made me go, I wanna bite
the bullet and actually try out for a
play when I was 12 years old. Oh
my gosh. Yeah. The director of this play,
Victoria Weller,
she, back in the day, in the early
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two thousands, was part of another traveling theater
company called Foxwell Productions.
And she and a couple of her colleagues,
put on this play in the Brookings area,
again, in the early two thousands. And I
remember sitting in that audience
and, not to spoil any bits too much,
but essentially, like, getting, quote, thrown up on
in the audience. And I was like, I
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wanna do that
because I thought it was so funny. Yes.
Yes.
How do I how do I get involved
with that?
That's when you may wanna start acting. And
when you engage the audience and you can
see their emotions and you can hear their
laughter and you can see their faces. Mhmm.
You know, what is that like from the
stage? Oh my god. To know that you're
resonating Yeah. With the people in the theater.
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It is the best feeling in the world.
It is all the dopamines.
All the dopamines for sure.
And one of the great things about our
format,
is that because we're a traveling troupe, sometimes
we perform in rather small spaces, rather intimate
performance spaces.
I recently did a comedy called Sylvia
where,
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the line between where we stop as actors
and the front row of seats was about
a foot. Woah. I was and, I was
playing a dog,
as you do.
And I was in a scene where I
had to chase after a cat, and I
get yanked back on a harness. And I
had to really trust that my my, scene
partner was going to yank back on my
harness and keep me from leaping into the
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lap of the lady in the front row
Oh my god. As I'm barking at this
cat. Yes. Oh my god. Yeah. And it
but, like, seeing, like, seeing their faces, like,
still being engaged in the play, but seeing,
like, the delay on people's faces when you're
doing something that is just, like, so funny
to them is the best feeling in the
world. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And and and that
is that pure joyous, joyously freak kind of
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thing that happens. Mhmm. Absolutely. I I know
I've been very close to actors as well,
and they've actually spit on me. I felt
their saliva hit my face, and I'm like,
oh my gosh. This is for real. This
is not a TV screen. No. You know,
this is for real. And you can see
your your perspiration.
You can see your red faced skin. I
mean, literally, it's just it's pounding as a
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person in the audience back to backstage.
You know, we couldn't do theater without the
backstage people. Yeah. You think about that prop
make tell us a little bit about the
backstage part, Effie. So I'm it's very minimal.
I have zero formal
training.
I ended up doing a lot of backstage
work that no one else would do. So
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Such as what? Building sets, painting sets,
oddly enough doing makeup, which is not my
forte.
Uh-huh.
So I and I did that for Pippin,
which involved a lot of makeup.
Mhmm. And then I was the,
you know, president
of our local my local Shakespeare
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club in college.
Nice.
Or I said local, but the call it
the college,
Shakespeare club. And we would put on these
sort of flash mob
style performances.
Yes. And so sometimes I would perform in
those, but very, very,
very minimally.
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Mhmm. And again, only because
someone else wouldn't do it. Right. And then
backstage stuff,
yeah. I loved, like, kind of the construction
end of things. Yes. But yes. And the
imagination
and the creativity to create that back drop
or that scene The vision. To build it.
The artsy
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kind of, alright. Now I think we need
better props for this. And that is
that's where I'll be stepping in with Yeah.
Shakespeare, our upcoming.
I will. And to speak to your point
about, like, you know, you say you have
relatively little experience with, like, certain aspects of
backstage work. But, I mean, like, honestly, like,
that's where a lot of people come to
community theater. It's not like they come in
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with a a heavy background in this stuff.
And that's usually how people get introduced to
if they feel like taking it in a
professional direction. This is a place where people
get introduced to concepts like that. One of
the people who are in, Complete Works of
William Shakespeare with us, Chloe Rosenthal,
is actually,
we grew up together here in Brookings. Corey's
great. Yeah. Oh, no. Chloe. Chloe. Chloe, I'm
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sorry. I thought, yeah. My fault.
And she, she moved down to LA after
being involved in community theater here. She fell
in love with it so much that she
was like, I wanna act. Oh. And she's
been involved in,
in both, stage and, on screen
productions and has done on screen acting, stage
acting.
She's directed before, but she's she wanted to
make a career out of it, and she's
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been taking steps to make that happen. So,
yeah, it really all starts at community theater
for some people. That led led her to
other things. Yeah. Yeah. And and then how
many local people are really involved in our
community theater? Between Checo Playhouse and Threepenny, what
would you say? How many do you think
have hit the stage or hit the back?
It's at least hundreds.
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At least hundreds of people. And it's a
really, like, astounding when you stop to think
about it how many people it takes to
put on a successful play or musical. Would
you talk about that, Kat? Add a little
bit more detail. Bonnie, besides, like, besides the
cast, besides the people that you see on
stage, you have somebody running the light booth.
You have a stage manager. You hopefully have
some stage hands to help the stage manager.
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You have people who are in charge of
costuming, people who are in charge of props.
You have people who are in a musical
setting often choreo doing the choreography for the
play.
You have your director, your assistant director. You
have all of these crew members, again, speaking
to the value of those backstage behind the
scenes people making it happen. So even though
you see a play where you see maybe,
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like, 10 to 20 people on stage, there's
probably at least another 10 to 20 people
backstage Mhmm. From ushers to, volunteers at the
snack bar, from all of these little things
that make community theater happen. It really is
a collaborative
group effort. Yeah. Right on. So what would
be some tips for the listeners out there
right now on on how they can be
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involved or when they can attend? Can you
give us some specifics on that? Absolutely.
So,
we are we don't have as formal of
a season schedule as, as the Checo players
do because we're we're traveling. We just have
that flexibility.
But so we, on our end, encourage people,
if you wanna get involved with any shows
that we have coming up, even if that's
backstage, if you're like, I'm not ready to
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step on the stage yet. Even if you
wanna help backstage and just get a feel
for what things are like,
they can, find us on Facebook. We're Threepenny
Theatre Co.
You can our Instagram or TikTok, we have
all of those too.
They can send an email to contact@3pennytheater.com.
They can call (541)
251-0640
to talk to a human being if they
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want. Can can you repeat that phone number
and the email? Yeah. Yeah. So the email's
contact@3pennytheater.com,
and the phone number is (541)
251-0640.
We are,
always looking for help. Again, like, if you
wanna help at the snack bar, we're looking
for volunteers right now for behind the scenes
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and front of house help with, with the
complete works of William Shakespeare abridged.
So please, if you wanna get involved with
that, the show run is going to be
July 25 through August 3.
So if you've got some time coming up
in, in midsummer and you wanna help out,
please get in touch. We would love to
hear from you.
We're also gonna be scheduling auditions soon as
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well for, our upcoming fall drama, And that
is an incredible, beautiful story called Ugly Lies
the Bone. Mhmm. And that is it's a,
it's a
dark comedy,
dark comedy. It's definitely, it's definitely toward the
drama, but there's a lot of humor infused
throughout. And it's about this, woman named Jess,
and she is a veteran from the Afghan
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wars.
And,
she,
ends up coming home from the war with
severe burns.
And, as she comes back and she's beginning
her journey of healing and and managing her
pain,
she's also trying to reconnect with her sister
who's helping to take care of her through
this process and reconnect with other people in
her community in this Florida town. And it's
a beautiful story. Jess is just a a
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an incredibly, like,
just an acerbic, like, funny character too. She
has a lot of good humor in her.
And and the way that she
approaches
what's happened to her and what's happened to
her family,
it's just a beautiful story. So we're looking
for a few actors for that as well.
It's a really good show. It's a really
cool show to be a part of. It's
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gonna have a lot of fun elements in
it. Nice. Mhmm. And I love that's what
I love about acting and and going to
theater are the stories.
It's a story. It's a live story. Oh,
yeah. It's beautiful. And it and it's so
different than than reading a book. You're seeing
it how the producers and the creators
Mhmm. Envision this, and that's what you see
Yeah. And you take with you. Yeah. And
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it's an expression. Like, you have that script
in front of you, and there's the original
way that the play was done. But when
you're producing it yourself, that's your opportunity to
express it in your own way Yes. Which
is really cool. Is that a musical as
well? No. That is. That's a straight play.
No no musical on that one.
And so you don't need to sing.
And but we are looking for somebody to
play Jess, our our main character, and it
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will involve,
the use of some some pretty, heavy special
effects makeup. Wow. And we need somebody who's
who's got a lot of energy and ready
to to bring it to that role and
be be very expressive in that way. We're
also looking for her sister and a couple
of men. So Okay. Please. Yeah. Excellent. If
you're interested, please get in touch with us,
and we'll be announcing those audition dates soon.
You bet. And if I remember, I wrote
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it down, (541) 251-0640.
You can actually call and talk to a
live person and find out more details and,
even no commitment. They can just call and
ask like a discovery call Yeah. And find
out. Just get details, ask questions. We love
when people ask us questions. That means you're
thinking about us. There you go. Yeah. There
you go. Yeah. Beautiful. Yeah. Beautiful. Beautiful. Mhmm.
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Effie, I know that you are also an
English teacher. I am. And with that English
background,
can you relate some of that to theater?
Oh, yeah. I'm this is it's why I'm
drawn what you said, stories. It's why I'm
drawn to theater.
And I have taught several
classes
in drama.
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And yeah. And I I think just
Kat's
talking about
coming forward and maybe
volunteering or participating
backstage or on stage. And one of the
things that,
I see in the classroom
a lot
is fear.
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Oh.
Mhmm.
And I think
fear is always an invitation.
And
in the classroom
and in theater, and it definitely was
for me.
And
Threepenny, the folks that I have met since
moving here
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have have
been so supportive.
And I'll say, no. I've never done this
before. I'm not very good at this. And
they're like, you're great. You're fine. You're
you know? And just do not allow,
those fears and that I have and that
I think a lot of people have
to
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take over Exactly. And and to ruin something
that could be joyous.
I learned in an English class, f e
a r, fear. False Evidence Appearing Real. Yes.
You know? And that's so true. That's so
true. We are down to just a minute
and a half. How about some final comments
from each of you and give our our
listeners some final tips or final comments. Oh,
(26:26):
gosh. Well, I guess to all those fearful
people out there, if you've been thinking about
getting involved in in a play in any
capacity, like, just think about all the capacity
for the joy of telling
this story in a way that resonates with
an entire room of people. It can be
such a magical experience. So I'd say take
that leap. We we need your help. Take
that leap and come join us. One, two,
(26:48):
three, leap. Yes. There we go. Come join
us. How about you, Effie? Final comments? Yeah.
I I feel
really,
privileged to have met Kat, to have become,
a member of the Threepenny family. And I
would encourage other folks,
to explore theater in whatever
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way,
and to just be curious.
And,
yeah. I mean, it's really fun to see
other people feel proud as well of their
the work that they're doing. And then that
for that, it's contagious. It's so contagious. Mhmm.
Yes. And wonderful. And so Oh, you know,
and from the top of my heart, I
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thank both of you. You are both joyful
spirits in yourself, and that is your true
self. And what you do in our community
to bring alive
the the teams of people that perform
for entertainment
and for joy is is just incredible. So
my hats off to each of you, Kat
and to Effie, for for doing that and
being that. Oh, thank you, everybody. KCAW
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listeners, one hundred point seven FM. We thank
Mike on the soundboard today. We thank Tom,
Candice, and Rose, and the entire team for
making this happen. This air joyously free show
will be found on kciw.org.
So please share it. Listen to it. Send
us comments. Contact Effie or Kat and get
involved. You know, we appreciate all of you
listening. We appreciate all the best of everything
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going on. Happy day.
Hi. Welcome KCIW listeners at one hundred point
seven and kciw.org
Brookings, Oregon.
You know the routine. I say the morning
greeting, which is it's a brand new day,
and you get to respond with never been
lived before. We're gonna see if you can
catch on as well as the two guests
I have with me today. So here we
go. It's a brand new day.
(00:31):
Never been lived before. Oh my gosh. Is
that in symphony or what? Thank you. Thank
you. Thank you. So welcome to Joyously Free
with none better than me, Joni Lindenmeyer. Yes.
I'm the best selling author and a resident
of Harbor, Oregon for thirty four years. Unbelievable.
So this radio, GADIO show, is a show
that talks about LGBTQ
stories and tips along with religion, church, faith,
(00:54):
and spirituality.
Of course, it's all centered around joy, the
freedom, the courage, and the confidence to exude
that. The purpose of the show is, of
course, to share that joy and that freedom,
hence the title Joyously Free, which came from
my book that I coauthored with Elizabeth Ann
Atkins of 2sisterswriting.com.
And, yes, it is up for a Lambda
nomination.
(01:15):
I will know July 30 if we are
winners or not. But moving on, that book
has just entitled and and
sprung the joy out of so many people,
and that's what we're gonna hear from today.
We're gonna seek understanding. We're gonna think out
of the box. We're gonna know that abundant
love and gratefulness is all around us and
within all of our friends and family right
here on the coast. We will know that
(01:37):
God, whatever name you put on that God,
is around us and in us, so we
do not need to be troubled, afraid, or
saddened.
In fact, in our presentation today, again with
my life, there's no hate speech,
no hate behaviors, and no bullying.
We will keep things blasted with the three
c's, courage, confidence, and collaboration.
(01:57):
In the Northern California Coast and the Southern
Oregon area that we live in, we hope
that all listeners will appreciate this podcast today.
Our special guests are sitting right across from
me. I'm gonna give you a couple little
names here, and you might be able to
figure out who and where they're from. One
is named Kat and one is named Effie.
So think about that for a but we're
gonna do our prayer
(02:18):
And our prayer today is a quote that
I found, and I think it is so
apropos of our discussion.
Here's the quote.
Acting is not about being famous. It's about
exploring the human soul.
So let's take a deep breath in
and let it out with doubt.
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Take another deep breath in
with joy
and out with fear.
Let's take another big deep breath in
knowing that we are spiritual beings as well
as human beings.
I'm going to read this quote one more
time.
Acting is not about being famous.
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It's about exploring the human soul.
When I read that this morning, the human
soul of myself
just
exploded
with peace.
Yes. Exploded. It's a burst of peace. It's
it's not just something that you sit quietly
and and just stare. There's something inside me
that moves from my my baby toe up
to the hair on my head that says,
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peace is joy and joy is peace,
and that is the soul.
Our bodies will eventually die, but our soul
lives on forever.
And if you've been through any kind of
grief with a beloved, you know exactly what
that means.
So those were my little thoughts for today.
Our holy God, creator God, and Jesus the
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spirit,
guard us and guide us and guard us
today as we do our beautiful life.
So here we go. I am excited to
introduce everybody to our special guests,
friends and colleagues in one sense. We have
Karen Lynn Fassett, also known as Effie, my
dear friend Effie, and Kat Liddell, who you
(04:04):
all might know from, and she's gonna tell
you where she's from. But our topic our
topic with these two beautiful
people, the joyously free world of community theater.
Yes. Community theater and the joyously free world.
Welcome, Effie. Welcome, Kat, to joyously free. Hey,
Joni. Thanks for having us today. Oh my
gosh. My pleasure. My pleasure. How are we
(04:25):
doing?
Oh, gosh. I mean, it's just such a
gorgeous day. It's such a gorgeous start to
June. Like, it just feels like summer's already
here, and and I'm feeling that in my
heart and my soul right now. Right on.
Right on. Basking in the glow of summer
even though summer's not even here. Right. Right.
Effie, how about you? How are you doing
today? I concur with what Kat said. I
am enjoying this
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good gardening weather.
Yes. Yes. The sun rays are incredible, aren't
they? Yep. The warmth. The sun. Yes. You
know, and speaking of June and speaking of
summer, we've got an exciting week coming on
because this coming Saturday, June 7, will be
Crescent or not Crescent City, Brookings Pride. Crescent
City Pride is the June 21. But this
weekend is the Brookings Pride. I have a
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couple book events before that. I'll be Thursday
at Forecastle Books. Mhmm. And, Friday, I'll be
up in Port Orford Library, all from four
to six. But Pride is gonna run on
Saturday.
Who remembers the times? Saturday, it's gonna be
running from, I think, eleven to three. That's
what I heard too. Is that word that
I heard on the street on that one.
Yes. Yeah. The word on the street. I
love it. I love it. No. And it's,
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the the fun thing for me about, Pride
in Brookings, it's like but it's a whole
Pride in the Park event. So, you know,
they take over the band shell. We have
some some vendors, some some good food, community
meal. Free community meal, you know? Yes. Like,
good music, good people, just us. There's gonna
be a fun silent auction, you know. It's
yeah. Just a good time. A good time
all around. Free face painting. Exactly. Free face
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painting. Who doesn't love free face painting? I
I don't. I I do. And I love
it when they do it on me. You
know, I'm not the one doing it with
you. Have to do it, but what yeah.
Somebody is actually, like, painting you. That's my
comfort zone as well. I'm Perfect. Perfect. And
and I guess that reminds me of our
topic of of acting, community theater. We don't
act at Pride. We are our true selves.
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And everybody is there as their true self,
their allies and or on the LGBTQ spectrum.
But in terms of acting, you know, I
have seen straight people act like gays. I've
seen gay people act like straights in theater.
Mhmm. But I wanna jump into both of
you. How did the two of you meet?
Oh my gosh. Like, it's it's been a
couple years now, it feels like. I met
(06:32):
through Jamie. I know. Westby. Yeah. A mutual
friend Mhmm. Who is a filmmaker
in Portland.
And I moved here from Portland
and was seeking
community
Mhmm. And thought, okay. I will find
folks with, you know, shared values in that
world of theater. Mhmm.
(06:54):
And
my friend James said, you need to meet
Todd and Jason and all these folks with
Threepenny Theatre.
And so that was my attempt at building
community here. And it was all thanks to
James.
And and theater. Yeah. Yes. Yes. And how
long have you been involved in theater, Kat?
I see you all around performing and and
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take take me back to, like, your your
initial days of theater. Yeah. So, I mean,
I grew up,
like, when I was a a child and
the the Checo Pelican Players were based out
of a a performing arts center in Harbor
above the DMV.
I remember that. That was located about a
half mile from my my house. And, when
I was little,
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every chance that I got, because you could
get in for for, like, less than $5
when you were a kid there to see
a play, I would walk down there and
I would watch whatever show was was playing
on the matinees. And I'd be there every
single matinee because I loved it so much.
I found it so captivating.
So, like, from elementary school. And then when
I turned 12, I I finally I got
the I gathered up the nerve to try
(07:55):
out for a play, and I've been doing
it for about well, it's gonna be about
twenty, twenty one, twenty two years now. Oh
my gosh. Ever since then. Yeah. Oh my
god. Yeah. So it's it's been, like, all
through high school, I I was involved in
theater.
And when I moved back here in 2014,
I immediately got back on the stage. So
just a constant thing. It's a constant presence
(08:17):
in my life, and it brings me a
ton of joy. A ton of joy. And
I have seen you perform, and you bring
a ton of joy to that stage. Oh,
shucks. Oh my god. From your, your, what
do I wanna call it? Your your
what do you call it? When your movements
all your movements Yeah. Yeah. You know? And
and then your facial expressions blow me away.
And, of course, your voice. And and I've
(08:38):
even heard you at the library read stories.
Oh my gosh. You have such a theatrical
voice. Oh, golly. Thank you. Yes. Yeah. I
have a face and a and a voice
for radio, you know, as people like to
say.
Yes. Yes. Yeah. It's, it's been really fun,
doing plays here. And part of the reason
it is so much fun, besides just, like,
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the
the joy that you get in expressing yourself
in theater because you mentioned, like, you know,
there's no acting at Pride. We're all being
our authentic selves.
There's, like, when you're acting, it's really nice
to be able to to find the authenticity
in your performance too. Just because you're up
there acting doesn't mean you're not being your
authentic self necessarily. So That's right. And that's,
(09:20):
like, kinda like, a happy place for me.
That's where I feel like my most authentic
self is when I'm performing on the stage.
I don't know. It's just something that's always
been home for me. It's the true cat
expression. I guess so. I guess so. Effie,
how about you? Have have you been a
theater buff as well in terms of your
acting career? No. I have,
a very limited acting career.
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Kat has been witness to it. Okay. Tell
us more. But I I was involved in
theater in high school and in college,
but backstage.
And I am a Oh. A backstage person.
Okay. So,
but I I love what Kat just said
about
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finding that authenticity
in the performance.
And,
Kat offered me an opportunity for right or
wrong to be in
The Vagina Monologues, which we put on last
year. Yes. And Wonderful.
It
that felt very authentic
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to me. And just to kind of piggyback
on that idea,
I felt like acting
and for me, truly, acting
in earnest for the time in that show
felt like, oh, I'm finding
parts of myself in this role
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that I haven't necessarily
expressed out loud. I'm definitely never on a
stage. So And within our small community. And
in a small community. And I love that
that show
probably challenged a lot of people,
in a really meaningful
way and asked them to exercise
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empathy and courage and imagination.
And,
yeah. Yeah. Excellent words. Challenge,
imagination.
Yes.
I saw your head nod a little bit.
Oh, yeah. No. That was it was an
incredible experience putting on that play. We weren't
sure how it was gonna be received. It's
a very intimate topic, obviously, by by virtue
of the the title and in a very
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small community. And it was incredible to see
the positive community response to that. I mean,
we had several sold out houses, and and
the audience was just so, like, warm and
giving and had great feedback for everybody. I
mean, you could hear them, like, murmuring, like,
you know, like, their their thoughts on the
matter as people were giving their monologues. But
not in, like, a disruptive way, but, like,
that they were actually, like, experiencing and feeling
(11:54):
those emotions,
which is exactly what we wanna accomplish when
we're putting on a good theatrical production is
people all in the same room kind of
just
communal
kind of community oriented way. So
it was, yeah, it was such a great
show. And Effie did amazing.
Oh, hi Oh, hi, Tess. Thank you. Hi,
Tess. Way to go. Way to go. And
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that that also, I think I don't know
if this I I'm going to assume this
is your experience, Kat.
But that feedback from the community
extended far beyond, like, way outside
the walls of the event center. And I've
had a couple people stop me in Grocery
(12:37):
Outlet Mhmm. And say, were you in that
place?
And you turn around and say, who? Me?
Yeah. Or they'll just, you know, I've had
strangers approach and say, I saw you in
that what are you doing next? You know,
what's 3p up to? And we love having
3p and down. Great. Let's talk about that.
Let's jump right into it. It's a great
interlude there. Yeah. Threepenny. Alright. You and Jason.
(13:00):
Yeah. We're, we're we're relatively new theater company
in town. We only, we we informally got
together and put on our production in 2023,
And it was a two hander play called
Venus and Fur that me and Jason just
took money out of our savings and went,
hey, I'd like to try and make a
play happen. You know, this is a project
that we've been passionate about for a minute.
(13:20):
And if, we wanna make it happen, we
gotta make it happen.
So that went well. It was a dark
comedy. People it was well received. And,
and we decided, well,
a really good way to kinda get things
off the ground and the what we wanna
accomplish by bringing, like, accessible, affordable theater and
kind of a pop up theater experience for
people, like, the, you know, nontraditional spaces
(13:42):
was to become a nonprofit. So we became
a nonprofit in 2024, about the time that
we did the Vagina Monologues.
Have had a couple more shows since then.
And, we're working, we're now in our our
starting our year of operations.
Congratulations. Yes. And we're working on probably one
of our most ambitious projects yet. We're currently
in rehearsals for the complete works of William
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Shakespeare, abridged revised
again.
Woah. It's a crazy comedy.
It is, imagine the concept is,
three doofuses try to teach the masses about
Shakespeare's entire canon in ninety minutes or less.
Wow. Yeah. Yeah. I think Monty Python does
Shakespeare. It's,
it's there's a ton of physical comedy. There
(14:27):
is so much humor in it. You don't
need to understand or or be familiar with
Shakespeare at all to get laughs out of
it and enjoy it. It's I laughs
out
of it and enjoy it. It's actually the
play that made me go, I wanna bite
the bullet and actually try out for a
play when I was 12 years old. Oh
my gosh. Yeah. The director of this play,
Victoria Weller,
she, back in the day, in the early
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two thousands, was part of another traveling theater
company called Foxwell Productions.
And she and a couple of her colleagues,
put on this play in the Brookings area,
again, in the early two thousands. And I
remember sitting in that audience
and, not to spoil any bits too much,
but essentially, like, getting, quote, thrown up on
in the audience. And I was like, I
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wanna do that
because I thought it was so funny. Yes.
Yes.
How do I how do I get involved
with that?
That's when you may wanna start acting. And
when you engage the audience and you can
see their emotions and you can hear their
laughter and you can see their faces. Mhmm.
You know, what is that like from the
stage? Oh my god. To know that you're
resonating Yeah. With the people in the theater.
(15:31):
It is the best feeling in the world.
It is all the dopamines.
All the dopamines for sure.
And one of the great things about our
format,
is that because we're a traveling troupe, sometimes
we perform in rather small spaces, rather intimate
performance spaces.
I recently did a comedy called Sylvia
where,
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the line between where we stop as actors
and the front row of seats was about
a foot. Woah. I was and, I was
playing a dog,
as you do.
And I was in a scene where I
had to chase after a cat, and I
get yanked back on a harness. And I
had to really trust that my my, scene
partner was going to yank back on my
harness and keep me from leaping into the
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lap of the lady in the front row
Oh my god. As I'm barking at this
cat. Yes. Oh my god. Yeah. And it
but, like, seeing, like, seeing their faces, like,
still being engaged in the play, but seeing,
like, the delay on people's faces when you're
doing something that is just, like, so funny
to them is the best feeling in the
world. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And and and that
is that pure joyous, joyously freak kind of
(16:34):
thing that happens. Mhmm. Absolutely. I I know
I've been very close to actors as well,
and they've actually spit on me. I felt
their saliva hit my face, and I'm like,
oh my gosh. This is for real. This
is not a TV screen. No. You know,
this is for real. And you can see
your your perspiration.
You can see your red faced skin. I
mean, literally, it's just it's pounding as a
(16:54):
person in the audience back to backstage.
You know, we couldn't do theater without the
backstage people. Yeah. You think about that prop
make tell us a little bit about the
backstage part, Effie. So I'm it's very minimal.
I have zero formal
training.
I ended up doing a lot of backstage
work that no one else would do. So
(17:16):
Such as what? Building sets, painting sets,
oddly enough doing makeup, which is not my
forte.
Uh-huh.
So I and I did that for Pippin,
which involved a lot of makeup.
Mhmm. And then I was the,
you know, president
of our local my local Shakespeare
(17:38):
club in college.
Nice.
Or I said local, but the call it
the college,
Shakespeare club. And we would put on these
sort of flash mob
style performances.
Yes. And so sometimes I would perform in
those, but very, very,
very minimally.
(17:59):
Mhmm. And again, only because
someone else wouldn't do it. Right. And then
backstage stuff,
yeah. I loved, like, kind of the construction
end of things. Yes. But yes. And the
imagination
and the creativity to create that back drop
or that scene The vision. To build it.
The artsy
(18:20):
kind of, alright. Now I think we need
better props for this. And that is
that's where I'll be stepping in with Yeah.
Shakespeare, our upcoming.
I will. And to speak to your point
about, like, you know, you say you have
relatively little experience with, like, certain aspects of
backstage work. But, I mean, like, honestly, like,
that's where a lot of people come to
community theater. It's not like they come in
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with a a heavy background in this stuff.
And that's usually how people get introduced to
if they feel like taking it in a
professional direction. This is a place where people
get introduced to concepts like that. One of
the people who are in, Complete Works of
William Shakespeare with us, Chloe Rosenthal,
is actually,
we grew up together here in Brookings. Corey's
great. Yeah. Oh, no. Chloe. Chloe. Chloe, I'm
(19:01):
sorry. I thought, yeah. My fault.
And she, she moved down to LA after
being involved in community theater here. She fell
in love with it so much that she
was like, I wanna act. Oh. And she's
been involved in,
in both, stage and, on screen
productions and has done on screen acting, stage
acting.
She's directed before, but she's she wanted to
make a career out of it, and she's
(19:22):
been taking steps to make that happen. So,
yeah, it really all starts at community theater
for some people. That led led her to
other things. Yeah. Yeah. And and then how
many local people are really involved in our
community theater? Between Checo Playhouse and Threepenny, what
would you say? How many do you think
have hit the stage or hit the back?
It's at least hundreds.
(19:43):
At least hundreds of people. And it's a
really, like, astounding when you stop to think
about it how many people it takes to
put on a successful play or musical. Would
you talk about that, Kat? Add a little
bit more detail. Bonnie, besides, like, besides the
cast, besides the people that you see on
stage, you have somebody running the light booth.
You have a stage manager. You hopefully have
some stage hands to help the stage manager.
(20:03):
You have people who are in charge of
costuming, people who are in charge of props.
You have people who are in a musical
setting often choreo doing the choreography for the
play.
You have your director, your assistant director. You
have all of these crew members, again, speaking
to the value of those backstage behind the
scenes people making it happen. So even though
you see a play where you see maybe,
(20:24):
like, 10 to 20 people on stage, there's
probably at least another 10 to 20 people
backstage Mhmm. From ushers to, volunteers at the
snack bar, from all of these little things
that make community theater happen. It really is
a collaborative
group effort. Yeah. Right on. So what would
be some tips for the listeners out there
right now on on how they can be
(20:45):
involved or when they can attend? Can you
give us some specifics on that? Absolutely.
So,
we are we don't have as formal of
a season schedule as, as the Checo players
do because we're we're traveling. We just have
that flexibility.
But so we, on our end, encourage people,
if you wanna get involved with any shows
that we have coming up, even if that's
backstage, if you're like, I'm not ready to
(21:06):
step on the stage yet. Even if you
wanna help backstage and just get a feel
for what things are like,
they can, find us on Facebook. We're Threepenny
Theatre Co.
You can our Instagram or TikTok, we have
all of those too.
They can send an email to contact@3pennytheater.com.
They can call (541)
251-0640
to talk to a human being if they
(21:27):
want. Can can you repeat that phone number
and the email? Yeah. Yeah. So the email's
contact@3pennytheater.com,
and the phone number is (541)
251-0640.
We are,
always looking for help. Again, like, if you
wanna help at the snack bar, we're looking
for volunteers right now for behind the scenes
(21:48):
and front of house help with, with the
complete works of William Shakespeare abridged.
So please, if you wanna get involved with
that, the show run is going to be
July 25 through August 3.
So if you've got some time coming up
in, in midsummer and you wanna help out,
please get in touch. We would love to
hear from you.
We're also gonna be scheduling auditions soon as
(22:09):
well for, our upcoming fall drama, And that
is an incredible, beautiful story called Ugly Lies
the Bone. Mhmm. And that is it's a,
it's a
dark comedy,
dark comedy. It's definitely, it's definitely toward the
drama, but there's a lot of humor infused
throughout. And it's about this, woman named Jess,
and she is a veteran from the Afghan
(22:30):
wars.
And,
she,
ends up coming home from the war with
severe burns.
And, as she comes back and she's beginning
her journey of healing and and managing her
pain,
she's also trying to reconnect with her sister
who's helping to take care of her through
this process and reconnect with other people in
her community in this Florida town. And it's
a beautiful story. Jess is just a a
(22:53):
an incredibly, like,
just an acerbic, like, funny character too. She
has a lot of good humor in her.
And and the way that she
approaches
what's happened to her and what's happened to
her family,
it's just a beautiful story. So we're looking
for a few actors for that as well.
It's a really good show. It's a really
cool show to be a part of. It's
(23:14):
gonna have a lot of fun elements in
it. Nice. Mhmm. And I love that's what
I love about acting and and going to
theater are the stories.
It's a story. It's a live story. Oh,
yeah. It's beautiful. And it and it's so
different than than reading a book. You're seeing
it how the producers and the creators
Mhmm. Envision this, and that's what you see
Yeah. And you take with you. Yeah. And
(23:34):
it's an expression. Like, you have that script
in front of you, and there's the original
way that the play was done. But when
you're producing it yourself, that's your opportunity to
express it in your own way Yes. Which
is really cool. Is that a musical as
well? No. That is. That's a straight play.
No no musical on that one.
And so you don't need to sing.
And but we are looking for somebody to
play Jess, our our main character, and it
(23:56):
will involve,
the use of some some pretty, heavy special
effects makeup. Wow. And we need somebody who's
who's got a lot of energy and ready
to to bring it to that role and
be be very expressive in that way. We're
also looking for her sister and a couple
of men. So Okay. Please. Yeah. Excellent. If
you're interested, please get in touch with us,
and we'll be announcing those audition dates soon.
You bet. And if I remember, I wrote
(24:17):
it down, (541) 251-0640.
You can actually call and talk to a
live person and find out more details and,
even no commitment. They can just call and
ask like a discovery call Yeah. And find
out. Just get details, ask questions. We love
when people ask us questions. That means you're
thinking about us. There you go. Yeah. There
you go. Yeah. Beautiful. Yeah. Beautiful. Beautiful. Mhmm.
(24:38):
Effie, I know that you are also an
English teacher. I am. And with that English
background,
can you relate some of that to theater?
Oh, yeah. I'm this is it's why I'm
drawn what you said, stories. It's why I'm
drawn to theater.
And I have taught several
classes
in drama.
(25:01):
And yeah. And I I think just
Kat's
talking about
coming forward and maybe
volunteering or participating
backstage or on stage. And one of the
things that,
I see in the classroom
a lot
is fear.
(25:23):
Oh.
Mhmm.
And I think
fear is always an invitation.
And
in the classroom
and in theater, and it definitely was
for me.
And
Threepenny, the folks that I have met since
moving here
(25:44):
have have
been so supportive.
And I'll say, no. I've never done this
before. I'm not very good at this. And
they're like, you're great. You're fine. You're
you know? And just do not allow,
those fears and that I have and that
I think a lot of people have
to
(26:05):
take over Exactly. And and to ruin something
that could be joyous.
I learned in an English class, f e
a r, fear. False Evidence Appearing Real. Yes.
You know? And that's so true. That's so
true. We are down to just a minute
and a half. How about some final comments
from each of you and give our our
listeners some final tips or final comments. Oh,
(26:26):
gosh. Well, I guess to all those fearful
people out there, if you've been thinking about
getting involved in in a play in any
capacity, like, just think about all the capacity
for the joy of telling
this story in a way that resonates with
an entire room of people. It can be
such a magical experience. So I'd say take
that leap. We we need your help. Take
that leap and come join us. One, two,
(26:48):
three, leap. Yes. There we go. Come join
us. How about you, Effie? Final comments? Yeah.
I I feel
really,
privileged to have met Kat, to have become,
a member of the Threepenny family. And I
would encourage other folks,
to explore theater in whatever
(27:08):
way,
and to just be curious.
And,
yeah. I mean, it's really fun to see
other people feel proud as well of their
the work that they're doing. And then that
for that, it's contagious. It's so contagious. Mhmm.
Yes. And wonderful. And so Oh, you know,
and from the top of my heart, I
(27:29):
thank both of you. You are both joyful
spirits in yourself, and that is your true
self. And what you do in our community
to bring alive
the the teams of people that perform
for entertainment
and for joy is is just incredible. So
my hats off to each of you, Kat
and to Effie, for for doing that and
being that. Oh, thank you, everybody. KCAW
(27:52):
listeners, one hundred point seven FM. We thank
Mike on the soundboard today. We thank Tom,
Candice, and Rose, and the entire team for
making this happen. This air joyously free show
will be found on kciw.org.
So please share it. Listen to it. Send
us comments. Contact Effie or Kat and get
involved. You know, we appreciate all of you
listening. We appreciate all the best of everything
(28:15):
going on. Happy day.
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