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December 2, 2025 38 mins
Interview Begins @6:50
Episode Summary:
In this on-site video episode of “Deconstructing Dallas,” Shawn and Ryan sit down inside the George W. Bush Institute with one of the region’s most respected economic thinkers — Dr. Cullum Clark, Director of the Bush Institute, SMU Economic Growth Initiative and adjunct economics professor at SMU.
Dr. Clark shares his remarkable journey from a long career in investment management to earning a Ph.D. in economics at age 50 and how that path led him to focus on urban and regional economic growth, public policy and the future of North Texas.
He breaks down the “formula” behind Dallas–Fort Worth’s incredible rise — from affordability and business climate to innovation, immigration and human capital — and explains why housing costs, workforce education and infrastructure will determine whether the region can sustain its momentum.
Listeners also will hear behind-the-scenes stories about former President George W. Bush, favorite Dallas eats (including soup dumplings!) and Cullum’s leadership lessons for entrepreneurs and changemakers navigating today’s economy.

Highlights from the Conversation:
How the Bush Institute applies “timeless American values to today’s pressing issues” through research and policy work.
Why DFW succeeds not by being No. 1 in any single category but by being consistently good across the board in key economic drivers.
The biggest risks to Dallas’ continued growth — especially housing affordability and talent development.
How trade protectionism and populist policies uniquely impact Texas’ trade-driven economy.
Why employers must play a more active role in shaping the region’s workforce pipeline.
Cullum’s journey from investor to economist — and the mentors who changed his life and career direction.
Stories from surprise classroom visits by President Bush and what Cullum has learned from working closely with the Bush family.
Leadership advice for entrepreneurs: “Read massively. Ask questions. Treat people well. Be nimble.”

Learn more: BushCenter.org

🍽️ Cullum’s Favorite Dallas Spots
  • Shinsei
  • Fortune House
  • Kirin Court
  • Any place with great soup dumplings
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