Deep Color

Megan Dickerson is the Senior Exhibitions Manager at The New Children’s Museum in San Diego. Megan talks about identifying as a “play worker,” working at the intersection of the contemporary art world and children’s museums, how kids explore and find agency through play, art materials as potentially “gnawable,” considering physical and emotional risks within an exhibit, re-balancing the relationships between work and play and findi... Read more

Sean Kelly has been a contemporary art dealer for over three decades, establishing a reputation for presenting diverse, intellectually driven and unconventional exhibitions. Sean talks about his role as an Armory Show selection committee member, suggestions on how galleries might prepare a strong and memorable fair application, how his relationship with performance artist Marina Abramovic developed, his podcast Collect Wisely, the ... Read more

Sally Tallant is the incoming Director of the Queens Museum in New York and curated the Platform section of the 2019 Armory Show. Sally talks about the different stages of her curatorial process, some of the ideas and artists featured in her current project titled “Worlds of Tomorrow”, the exchanges between hope, optimism and action, a meaningful trip to Sri Lanka, being completely moved by the work of Faith Ringgold and connecting... Read more

Christian Nagel is been a contemporary art dealer for over three decades. He is currently operating as Galerie Nagel Draxler, with locations in Berlin and Cologne. Christian talks about the origins of The Armory Show, an important internship he had at the Kaiser Wihelm Museum, a memorable road trip with painter Günther Förg, presenting a commemorative booth that salutes the legacies of fair co-founders Pat Hearn and Colin de Land, ... Read more

Eric Shiner is the artistic director for White Cube in New York. He was previously senior vice president of contemporary art at Sotheby’s and director of The Andy Warhol Museum. Eric talks about curating past Focus and Platform sections of The Armory Show, galleries as an important part of an artist’s support network, what he looks for during studio visits, Andy Warhol and social media, and artists as powerful agents of change. Thi... Read more

Mark Dion is an American artist whose work examines the ways in which dominant ideologies and public institutions shape our understanding of history, knowledge and the natural world. Mark talks about participating at the first incarnations of The Armory Show during the mid-1990’s, remembering Pat Hearn and Colin de Land, collecting objects and his curiosity cabinet installations, a forthcoming project at Storm King Art Center and w... Read more

Rachelle Dang makes installation-based work and sculpture that considers the exchanges between colonial legacies, botanical sciences and personal history. Rachelle talks about how audience activates her work, shifting from painting to sculpture, her “Savages of the Pacific” project, breadfruits, finding tremendous happiness through making art and the endless responsibility of dealing with history.

Adam Helms makes drawings and paintings that often depict masked faces, opposition groups, portraits of women, or scenes from comic books and film. Adam talks about posturing and symbolism through identity, image appropriation, subcultures and black metal, divorcing himself from his own work and looking for the emotional resonance in images.

Brian Chippendale is a visual artist, drummer and singer in Lightning Bolt and Black Pus, and a founding member of the seminal work-live-performance venue Fort Thunder. Brian talks about the similarities and distinctions between his different modes of making, mistakes as the living parts of his work, the fury of parenthood, selling artwork outside of the gallery system and enthusiasm as a way to generate new ideas. This is part 2 o... Read more

Brian Chippendale is a visual artist, drummer and singer in Lightning Bolt and Black Pus, and a founding member of the seminal work-live-performance venue Fort Thunder. Brian talks about creating immersive and expansive worlds in his work; handmade masks; playing drums; improvisation as an important tool; and capturing energy, multiplying it and blowing it back out. This episode was recorded in front of a live studio audience as pa... Read more

Monona Rossol is a chemist, sculptor, singer and an industrial hygienist that specializes in visual and performing arts health hazards. Monona talks about how most artist studios fail OSHA safety regulations, her book “The Artists Complete Health & Safety Guide”, kid’s art supplies, being born into a vaudevillian family, scientific facts, human denial and the challenge of being persuasive, and a steadfast desire to contribute t... Read more

Ryan Travis Christian makes graphite drawings on paper that often depict invented cartoon characters immersed in a world of provocative activity and goofball scenarios. RTC talks about processing emotional and political turmoil through his art, making work that transcends scene, seeing a demon and homage as a way to keep ideas alive.  

Butt Johnson makes highly rendered and labor intensive drawings. Butt talks about using a pseudonym as part of his artistic identity, his technical process and drafting system, patient execution as a form of peacefulness, looking for rigorousness in art, a love for sub-cultures, biology and gardening, and setting up his own parameters of challenge in art.

Tau Lewis makes sculptural work that often utilizes fabrics, industrial debris, plaster and found objects. Tau talks about her admiration for Souls Grown Deep, the history and memory of materials, identifying as a self-taught artist, black geographies, black imagination and black resourcefulness, childhood drawings of Michael Jackson, mermaids, healing and joyfulness through making.

Maia Ruth Lee makes paintings, sculpture, jewelry and video-based works. Maia talks about growing up in Nepal, being patient and flexible with her ideas, utilizing source material like vintage clip art books, art education and her role as the director of Wide Rainbow, how motherhood has helped her become a more relaxed artist and her recent solo show at Jack Hanley Gallery.

Ellie Rines is the founder and director of 56 Henry and co-director at Ceysson Bénétière’s New York location. Ellie talks about paintings as memory banks, the relationship between gallery and artist, slowing down the discussion of an artwork, shower stalls as storage space, her recipe for ideal studio visits and acting as a conduit for the artists she represents.

Sun You makes sculpture, installations and wall works that operate like paintings. Sun talks about carrying the language of painting into her three dimensional work, finding ways to interrupt her sensibility, the tonality and surprise in Korean film, moments of self-doubt as healthy, false proximities and keeping track of the potential of art.

Sean J. Patrick Carney is a visual and performance artist, writer, comedian and art educator. Sean talks about the similarities between comedians and visual artists, his love for teaching, being a member the of the Bruce High Quality Foundation, cooking as a creative and meditative process, the fog of art speak, his Humor & The Abject podcast and comedy as a through-line in his work and life.

Jason McLean is a multi-disciplinary artist but is primarily known for his elaborate and surreal drawings. Jason talks about his personal experience as content, drawing into the flaws of his materials, the obsession and rush of collecting, mental health and being diagnosed with schizophrenia, collaborating with his kids and the balance of art and life.