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This podcast will take you on a smart, direct, sometimes scary, sometimes profane, sometimes hilarious tour of the inner workings of American power and of the impact of our leaders and their policies on our standing in the world. Hosted by noted author and commentator David Rothkopf and featuring regulars Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law School, Kori Schake of AEI, and Ed Luce of the Financial Times, the program will be the lively, smart dinner table conversation on the big issues of the day that you wish you were having...without the calories. Sometimes special guests will join the conversation and always the emphasis will be on providing the unvarnished perspectives others shy away from. Deep State Radio is the insider perspective on American national security and foreign policy that you can't find anywhere else. If you are enjoying this podcast, please consider becoming a member by visiting thedsrnetwork.com.
Episodes
January 30, 2026 • 23 mins
President Trump and the GOP are in a growing panic over ICE. Trump’s advisers are sinking into recriminations. Republican officials are publicly admitting that his immigration agenda “seems to be not working” and that the GOP is “losing” the political battle over it. Others are suggesting that Alex Pretti’s killing was “murder” and that it’s time to “recalibrate.” Yet MAGA figures are pulling in the other direction. Media Matters h...
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January 29, 2026 • 41 mins
Public outcry against Trump’s authoritarian takeover of US cities is growing. As it turns out, Americans oppose a police state. Even a significant number of Republicans are growing discontent with ICE as their thuggish violence increases. What happens now? Can we make this a turning point for safeguarding our democracy? David Corn joins Rosa Brooks and David Rothkopf to discuss the importance of public pushback, local governance, a...
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January 29, 2026 • 36 mins
Is the U.S.-China AI rivalry a zero-sum game? While the race for technical dominance heats up, both nations are taking radically different paths to the finish line. MIT Technology Review’s Caiwei Chen and the FT’s John Thornhill join host David Rothkopf to explore where China currently holds the edge—and why the "us versus them" framework fails to capture the true complexity of the AI landscape.
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January 29, 2026 • 18 mins
On the DSR Daily for Thursday, we cover President Trump considering military strikes on Iran, Democrats threatening to block DHS funding, an attack on Rep. Ilhan Omar, and more.
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January 29, 2026 • 20 mins
GOP Senators Thom Tillis and Lisa Murkowski have now called for the resignation of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem. This angered Donald Trump, who lashed out at them as “losers” and “terrible Senators” and belittled them in other ways. But Noem’s tenure does look shaky. A new government review of the killing of Alex Pretti undercuts Noem’s initial account. Senate Majority Leader John Thune is declining to back Noem. And Ste...
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January 28, 2026 • 46 mins
Alex Pretti was murdered by ICE agents in Minneapolis. Where is the accountability? The Republican Party appears more concerned with public relations than addressing the violence and intimidation of MAGA. What path forward do we have? Norm Ornstein and David Rothkopf discuss all this and more. Tune in here.
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January 28, 2026 • 41 mins
Electric utilities are not generally known as hotbeds of innovation. What would it take for electric utilities to become more innovative? What impact would that have on the adoption of AI technologies in the power sector? Can AI tools help control power price increases for households, instead of creating pressures for increased power prices due to data center demand? Join host David Sandalow as he discusses these topics and others ...
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January 28, 2026 • 15 mins
On the DSR Daily for Wednesday, we break down Trump’s statement that he will ‘de-escalate’ in Minnesota, Rubio’s warning of potential future military action in Venezuela, a wrongful death lawsuit over US boat strikes, and more.
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January 28, 2026 • 27 mins
After we recorded this episode, we noticed that Axios is reporting that anger is rising at Stephen Miller inside Donald Trump’s inner circle. Some White House officials blame Miller for smearing ICE murder victim Alex Pretti. This comes as reports in The Wall Street Journal and The New York Times suggest that other top advisers want ICE to change course in a way that is running afoul of Miller’s designs. That all this is leaking ou...
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January 27, 2026 • 41 mins
Minnesotans have shown the entire country how to stand up to this administration. In the wake of two killings by ICE thugs, protesters have exemplified the values that all Americans should embody. Dahlia Lithwick joins David Rothkopf to break down the stunning events in Minnesota, why the administration is on the back foot, how the courts will play a pivotal role in the fight ahead, and why it’s time for all of us to stand up for ...
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January 27, 2026 • 21 mins
On the DSR Daily for Tuesday, we discuss leadership changes to ICE in Minneapolis, the DOJ and Congress ‘looking into’ Ilhan Omar, Trump lashing out at South Korea through tariffs, and more.
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January 27, 2026 • 24 mins
As the country absorbs the shock of Alex Pretti’s murder by federal agents in Minneapolis, President Trump is politically on the defensive. He sent his border czar there and sort of made nice with Minnesota’s Democratic governor. Meanwhile, Republicans and senior ICE officials are panicking about the situation. Democratic Senators are vowing to oppose funding for the Department of Homeland Security absent major restrictions on ICE....
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January 26, 2026 • 23 mins
On the DSR Daily for Monday, we break down the outrage over ICE killings in Minnesota, the remains of the last Israeli hostage being returned, Trump’s new threats against Canada, and more.
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January 26, 2026 • 23 mins
The Supreme Court is about to rule on Donald Trump’s tariffs, which lower courts deem illegal. But guess what: Trump himself has badly undermined his own case for them. He’s claimed broad tariff powers by absurdly declaring trade deficits an economic emergency. But he keeps admitting to other rationales for them. In a crazed tirade in Davos, he said he threatened Switzerland with tariffs partly because a female leader’s voice annoy...
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January 25, 2026 • 20 mins
On the DSR Weekly Wrap-up for January 23, we discuss Trump revoking Canada’s invitation to the Board of Peace, the House passing DHS funding despite ICE controversy, an American ‘armada’ heading to Iran, and more.
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January 23, 2026 • 28 mins
Donald Trump exploded in fury on Thursday at polling and media companies. He raged over “Fake and Fraudulent Polling,” said this should be a “criminal offense,” lashed out at numerous news organizations, and vowed to put a stop to the “Polling SCAM.” He’s plainly talking about The New York Times’s new poll, which finds Trump absolutely flailing on most major issues. He’s 18 points underwater on immigration, a majority of working cl...
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January 22, 2026 • 41 mins
If Donald Trump is right about one thing, it’s that “we’ve never seen anything like this.” From the disastrous alienation of our NATO allies over Greenland, to his actions in Venezuela and Jack Smith’s congressional testimony against Trump, our political situation is at an all-time low. How do we save our country? How do we fight back against the evils of the Trump regime? Tune in as Norm Ornstein and David Rothkopf address the cur...
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January 22, 2026 • 22 mins
On the DSR Daily for Thursday, we break down Trump reaching a deal on Greenland, Trump’s new “Board of Peace”, an internal ICE memo on entering homes without a warrant, and more.
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January 22, 2026 • 36 mins
Is anybody keeping score of Trump’s foreign policy? Are we tired of winning yet? The administration has unleashed a blitz of colossal news in recent weeks from Greenland to Iran that has been trick to make heads or tails of. Thankfully, our friend Stephen Walt from Harvard University joins David Rothkopf to make sense of what’s been going on and determine whether Trump has a winning or losing record abroad.
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January 22, 2026 • 29 mins
By now you’ve seen President Trump’s big speech at Davos. The slurring, the confusing of Greenland and Iceland, the nonsense about wind power, and the racist smearing of Somalis before the whole world—it was an unmitigated disaster. But things got worse when Trump’s propagandists spun it all as a world-historical triumph: White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt unleashed an extraordinary stream of obsequious praise, absurdly ...
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