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January 10, 2020 43 mins

Maya sits down with her buddy Matt Hartman, who does not like dark or upsetting things, to discuss The Running Man, one of Stephen King's most dark and upsetting novels. Listen to learn all about the origin of King's alter ego Richard Bachman, the different kinds of horror, and whether audio books or physical books are better for humanity. There was also a lot of president talk in this episode, which thankfully got mostly cut out. Sorry if we accidentally left in anything about presidents. 

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