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Kool-aid Detroit Kool-aid drinkers, what is going on?
Everybody's your host, Eric Okraright here on the Detroit
kool-aid cast talking about those lines.
Let me fill up your glass real quick.
Drink it in. Side of cornbread.
Cornbread. Got to make it a double.
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Cornbread. On the flagship show serving up
that delicious Honolulu blue flavored kool-aid.
I'm going solo today and I know the Lion just got to camp,
Players reported. There's practices, no padded
practices yet. People out there getting a lot
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of hype, lots of rumor, innuendo.
We got some injuries, but I'm going to somewhat hit on that.
But what I really need to do is quickly close up this dollars
That makes sense SENSE series that we've been doing.
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And I got 2 spots left. I might have missed 1.
I don't know. I know chops at chops in the D
my coast, my buddy did a safety what was it 10 minutes, 15?
I I don't know. He gave us a glorious nugget of
his time and knocked out a solo,which I do appreciate, even
though I got to give him a hard time.
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And I think that just leaves us with running backs and
linebackers. You guys know, I like to kind of
even them out, you know, offensive tackles, edges.
Then we go to corners and wide outs.
I think all I got left is Arby'sand L BS.
So I'm going to keep this prettybasic.
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I kind of want to just hit on the main spots, give you guys.
I'm actually going to do this onthe fly again.
Pull up some contracts, look at some caps, look at some ages.
Get through these and we don't have time to mess around.
But before we get into that, I'll just hit a little bit on
some of the happenings. I mean, everybody's all up in
arms. Oh my goodness, hell, great.
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I mean Levi's out for the year. I mean Levi owns Enrique AKA
maybe formerly AKA Big denim wasa guy that like we weren't
shopping at the bit forward to get in the draft.
Of course when they take and he starts wearing Honolulu blue and
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silver and I have a couple glasses of that Detroit
kool-aid, I'm like oh man, this guy's a penetrator.
He's a physical monster. No Was he out like two seasons
with a back issue and then everybody commends him for his
hard work and dedication after coming back from 2 years from
multiple back surgeries. Even though he got paid during
that time he gave nothing to theteam and he has a ho hum.
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I guess he did pretty well via PFF but I still didn't really
notice some type of season signs.
A one year $5,000,000 deal with the ads after no one else wanted
him. Or I mean we were so fortunate
to get a steal of a contract on this guy and somehow during the
offs and he slowly tears his ACL.
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He has a lot of things going on where it just had to get worked
on. I don't know the day before
training camp. I, I, I don't know what's going
on with this. I don't know if Levi like is
taking us for a ride and it's glad to get 5 mil for doing
nothing again or if he was firedup raring to go and the team
loved them. We couldn't believe we got him
for one years 5 and he's going to have this monster year and
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then this is so unfortunate. I I really don't know.
But to be honest, as much as we want to go crazy, we don't want
anyone injured. We can't leave this happen.
Why? Because guys had six months off
and shouldn't have been doing anything except working out
safely and have his feet up and his back rested.
It's this is not some all pro interior penetrating sack
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monster that's going out. This is a glorified paperweight
guy. I'm sure he's a tremendous human
being. Oh, we thought he was going to
do this. We hoped he was going to do
this. And now Levi's heading towards
being the shoe return guy at thebowling alley or maybe the guy
that gets the ball that gets stuck in the gutter.
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I I mean, it is what it is at this point.
Like we got young cats that can play there.
We've got some guys you never heard of that'll probably be
better than Levi for completely honest.
So I'm really not that concerned.
I mean, I don't like seeing Taylor Decker out, but that's
supposed to be minor. You know, we've got news today
before I got recording that Miles Boom by Yay Frazier is out
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till September, October at at best, says Dan Freaky Campbell.
Like, I guess I remember him having some injuries and why he
dropped in the draft, but like, I kind of assumed he was better
and was going to have a somewhatof a camp and be raring to go.
But that's not the case. I mean Rodrigo, that was the
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live version. Here's the sound drop.
Rodrigo. He's out to what, October?
November. I guess Brad always go for a
business home. Said that Aleem McNeil AKA Honey
Bun AKA Twinkle Toes AKAAKAAKA is supposed to be back sooner
than later, which still means probably Turkey Day at the
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earliest if you had to ask me. It's still TBD if you ask me,
but we'll see. I hope he heals up well, but I
can't imagine him making some miraculous comeback and being
back too early to help this team.
But any news is good news, I suppose.
We, we, we've got hype that #jamo Fast is out there doing
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his thing, just using those legs, burning people looking
good. I mean I think I saw Kirbo swag
Alicias just show up and like skiing goggles and what else did
he have? He had like AWWE World
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Heavyweight championship belt with some crazy medallion in the
middle. He had other gimmick, a tree on
which looked absolutely ridiculous yet the coolest thing
ever all at the same time. What else have I seen?
Tate rat second round pick, TateRatley just diving in at center
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got his deal done like the day before camp because all this
Bula Bula, the NFL teams and rookies and agents and they pull
all this hijinks and then like an hour before your practices
start, they sign. He's in there taking all the
reps at center, which I've got trepidation about.
I'm actually excited that the guy is not only just thrown in
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there, but he's smart, he's physical, he's got crazy goofy
slash, great hair. I mean, I'm for all this.
But it's going to be quite the adjustment for a rookie guy that
didn't really play it, you know,in his college days.
Might have practiced a little bit there to come in and replace
a guy like Frank Ragnasty, but got to do what we got to do at
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this point. So it sounds like it's mahogany
on the left. Tate Rat at center, Glasgow at
Wright, which is also interesting because Mahogany
played right guard his whole college career.
They used him at left last year.I think Graham is more seasoned
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at left, yet now he's I don't, Idon't know.
I'm sure it's a lot of cross training, a lot of things going
on. But other than that, I mean, St.
Brown, every time I see a practice, you know, clip of him
is just crispy clean. Just the routes, the crispiness,
the professionalism is just off the charts.
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I mean, I, I could just keep going down the list.
I did get a little Flack from mybuddy Wagner after the last pod
where I tried to half shout him out and make fun of him all at
the same time saying that he's ahe's a Lions fan.
But I don't know if he's a die hard loyal Detroit kool-aid
drinker until they start winningand then he's got his kid in
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jerseys. He's got whooping me up all the
time. He's he's very critical of the
pod at times, yet he's never come on.
He's never called in, never leftanything entertaining other than
to me via text, which we have fun going back and forth and
I'll like Wagner. I tried to do your gimmick on
air. I tried to give you some DAP.
I had to call you out because when the Pistons are winning,
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you're die hard piston guy. When the lands are winning, you
love the lands. When when the wings are rolling,
you got your hockey jersey on orpretend like you used to be able
to skate way back in the day. I mean, this is what's
happening. You're still my guy.
You're still a good friend. I still think your fandom is
genuine. But is it were you there when
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they were losing, you know, double digit ball games every
year all the time? I'm not so sure.
So that that was entertaining. Gosh, lots of life, family
craziness. Football is back and I think I
just did literally like 5-10 minutes random on all things
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going on. There's so much more to talk
about, but I got to get to theseArby's, Elby's and I can't be on
here forever because I got 8 million other things to do.
Let's talk running backs before we hit our commercial break.
And the first guy on my list is Demo fo SHO.
You know, let's go. Demo has a cap hit of 8 million,
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just over 8 million. It says here on the old spa
track that is cap NFL rank is 210th.
Even though he just got Pisaid another three years.
Nice little number. His annual average value based
on that new extension, anything he had left 9.1 a year for demo.
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I mean, I love this guy. I love the player, I love his
mentality, I love his physicality.
I feel like it's a nice player on so many levels.
The contract's a little rich forme, I ain't gonna lie.
I'm glad he's here for multiple more years.
But when he got a guy like Junior Gibbs and you give Demo
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9.1 and keep him here. I mean, we love the combo, don't
get me wrong. But when Demo was out, you're
good. Sure look like a feature back.
Sure put up some cuckoo for Cocopups numbers.
I'm just just saying. Just saying.
So Demo is probably what, like 28 at this point?
Somewhere in that range from an age perspective.
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He's here for this year, next year for sure, I'd say.
And then after that it gets a little dicey of just like Izzy
around. Do they use like kind of that
get out of that void ear. So like I'm looking at it 28
exactly. I was on the money there for age
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25 and 26. His base is only 5.45 point 5.
There is a void here in 2028 andthen in 2027 like I said when
they could get out depending on what's going on like the number
jumps up to 7.5 and 10.2 on a cap hit.
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Now it does say here there's a potential out in 2025, which
would just make it a one year, $9 million type deal, but I
think that's already passed based on how this website is set
up. So he signed A2 year $18.3
million deal recently. And like I said, they're
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rewarding their guys. They're giving guys that produce
money, which I can respect. And as much as I joke that like
Jamir Gibbs was incredible like that 1-2 punches off the charts,
you know, they complement each other so well.
They're so good. I I don't mind that deal for
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demo, you know, running back string get paid a little bit
more. He loves it here.
He fits. He does some of the things that
Gibbs doesn't do well, Gibbs does things he doesn't.
So I'm good with it. I'm good with the demo contract
folk show, you know, let's go tothe multi dimensional
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positionless, wait for it, wait for it.
I might actually insert another commercial, which I know you
guys love right here. Wait for it a little bit more
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elite. Jameer Gibbs 4.9 cap 1.65% of
your cap for this type of elite talent.
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Not 11-12 plus percent like Jared Goff.
Soon to be 2025% for our quarterback.
Jameer gives his cap hit for an NFL rank is 364.
His average annual value on thatcrispy mid 12th overall pick in
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the first round of the NFL draftis $4.5 million.
Absolutely Immaculate. This guy's in just touching his
prime. I've heard the rumor in the
window actually from his mouth saying that he's split out
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everywhere now, which I have been calling for year after year
after year, and instead they just run him up the middle and
have a couple outside zones thathe takes to the house.
Jameer Gibbs in 2025, ladies andgentlemen, is 23 years of age.
His base salary for this season is $1.0 million.
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It's laughable. His cap hits like 474.7 for this
type of special multi dimensional talent.
We have him also for 20/20/2026 and only 24 years of age at
similar numbers. He then would get a fifth year
option, which he will get that will be in the range of probably
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12 to 18, maybe even upwards of near 20 million at that point.
And I don't care who's worth every penny you give him the 5th
year, you then extend him for aslong as possible to stay in
Detroit. And I don't want to hear any of
you people out there, but they're crazy.
He's a running back and we can'tgo.
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He's he's he's got no tread on the tires.
We can do that. We'll just, we'll just draft
another. No, none of that.
I I don't want to hear any of that.
Boola, Boola, any of that garbage from anybody out there.
Jamir Gibbs is irreplaceable. Too damn good, too young, too
special, too elite in every way to not have this guy on your
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football team. All right, here's where we go.
Rapid fire. Come on, Craig.
Craig Reynolds, their running back, makes 1.2 million on a cat
pit. He gets a whopping cash amount
of $1.3 million this season. Craig, I'm not going to pull up
his deal 'cause my computer is going crazy, but I'm sure this
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is either it for him or they canget out if they really want to.
You probably won't cause Craig fits the grit.
He's nasty. He will block you into next
Tuesday. He's a great dude.
He's been here a while. They love him OK.
The the next guy's real intriguing for me.
And that Sione Vaki, another guythat came out on like the first
day of camp and had to leave dueto injury.
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I think it was some type of leg,hamstring, whatever Dan freaking
Campbell has been quoted of. Santione Vaki is looked at to be
a weapon this year on offense. We'd love to see it.
We heard a lot about all the things he could do when they did
absolutely nothing offensively after a preseason last year.
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Wow. He ran down on kicks.
He made a couple special teams, plays a real special teams
great. I need him to do things
offensively. I need him to be gadget player
and him to run the football. To be the reason you had to have
this player in round what, 4 to trade up in the third?
I can't. I think it was a fourth round
pick. Need a little more from Cioni.
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I like his mentality. I like the guy, but I didn't see
much. I'm just going to be honest,
Kyle Robocucks cow. I I don't know.
I, I think I saw he's like an undrafted type player.
I'm not going to pull it up again.
He makes 840K. I'm sure he's a great human
being and hopefully has a littlebit of boom at running back.
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And then we just picked up Jabari Small, who everybody had
to tell you was this special find.
If Tennessee used to play at thetight, I don't know, Jabari
Small does nothing for me. You can probably get away
obviously with your top to come on Craig and Cioni.
If you add some other type of vet that gives you either speed
or power or both or is just helps you in a pinch, that would
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be tremendous. That's basically where we're at
with running backs when it comesto contracts.
Do those dollars make sense? Not CENTSSENSE, I think so you
pay Demo, you're gonna pay JimmyGibbs, and then you're gonna
figure it out after that. Everybody, that's a 20 plus solo
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Kool-aid drinkers, we're back. Thank you so much for checking
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the show. You know what it is?
I'm I'm back here for the secondsegment.
I'm going to get into those linebackers dollars that make
sense. This will be the end of the
series. You guys love it.
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A lot of times we do deep dives.We plan for it this year.
We got into it a little bit late.
Now football's back. I want to just talk that and do
gimmicks and laugh and carry on like I like to do.
We'll finish this up for the people and the.
People consist of the millions. And Speaking of the people, like
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we haven't done shout outs in a while basically because I like
talking ball, but I love our fans.
I love the listeners. And you know, Chops is too busy
like telling you he's right or doing some of his gimmick a tree
or who knows what he's up to these days.
But he's not going to show you guys love like I do.
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So like I pulled up the old kool-aid hotline here and let me
just go through some of these names.
And again, you guys can text, you can call.
If you call, I may pick up live.This thing comes through on my
computer to my phone. Like if I see calls come through
and I'm not doing anything, I might just pick up.
We might talk about those Detroit for like a good, you
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know, depending on what your takes are and how humorous you
are, anywhere from one to maybe 10 minutes or you go to
voicemail and then you have about like 2 minutes, 2 1/2,
maybe less to leave a take that we think is funny.
Some type of sound effect that might get played on this show
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like this. Thank you Stash in the a tail.
A caller that did that on a voicemail that then Co hosted
some shows with me and it's justa loyal die hard Detroit
Kool-aid drinker. So we need to get more of these
kooky messages. I need takes that are actually
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entertaining rather than the same thing you heard on 97.1 The
ticket or some other Jibrone podor some beat reporter that you
heard that we don't respect hereon this show.
Like let me let me give some names again, let me remind some
of you who you are. I feel like Jim Rome about to
call out the clone saying I needI need some calls.
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I need some takes, I need some opinions and I'm looking at you
Tuna or young Santa or C mill from Wisco or stash in the ATL
who I just mentioned. Wait, where in that blue hell is
cornbread Jerry? This guy used to call bi weekly
multiple times a week. I had him on the show and then
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and you just poof, disappeared. Cornbread.
Jerry. I hope you're alive.
I hope you're still repping Honolulu blue.
I hope you're doing well. But you like literally gone and
I can't get a hold of you. I have not heard from you, but I
hope you're doing well. TBD if you ask me.
We'll see. I hope.
I hope you you're doing well andyou call.
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We got Paul Jackson from Tampa. What about our guy Keith in
Puerto Rico? Beau de Frisco with this formal
segment that he wanted called BoNose, or maybe I called it Bo
Nose, I can't remember. And then Bo at time showed me he
didn't know. So maybe we cancel that I, I
don't know. Great dude, hung out with him at
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a tailgate. Just fun in a couple fantasy
leagues. Usually finishes under where
your boy Oakley does, but it is what it is.
Where is KP from? Real deal sports talk.
This dude has his own show. He he may have came on for a
full episode. He's a good dude.
He has takes opinions. He used to tweet a lot.
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I don't see him anymore. I hope we're not losing lots of
kool-aid listeners here. It's just kind of they're here,
they're active, and then they'regone.
Kind of like our guy Frank Ribble.
Wow wow wow wow Frank Ribble came out the woodwork and used
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to send 10 messages a week to this show tweet us out, retweet
us out. I sent him merch I gave him a
banner that says Detroit kool-aid cast.
He got addicted to fantasy football.
He loves everything about the Lions, and this dude has
disappeared more times than I can count.
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If he's here, you know it when he's gone.
Nobody knows where Frank Ribble is except that he did the quad.
Wow. And we're just like, where the
heck did Frank go? Wow.
We have no idea, but I hope he'salive and kicking and doing
well. Also probably fishing somewhere
at this point. What about our girl?
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Go blue? Lexi 117, I'm sure she's out
there making fun of Buckeye fan or doing something else crazy or
making people laugh on Twitter or trying to remember why she
was going to come on the show. And then we lost to the
Washington Commanders and then we're like, Lex, let's not do
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it. And we're not very happy.
We'll have to get you back on. And then we don't because why?
We're busy. She's busy cops, talks about it
every other week and never does a solo show, never books her,
never always wants me to do it, and it just doesn't happen.
Steve from Cali. What about Mike in the NYC?
I'm just going through some of these old messages that we get
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Tommy Lyon from New York. We got Trevor from the kool-aid
Fantasy league. I mean it just goes on and on
for days. I can't read off all these, but
that's just a sampling of these crazy fun listeners that called
up and the next thing you know we give them a nickname.
They were known for certain drops opinions.
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We call up young Santa and just do a 30 minute segment with him.
Most of it was like 25 minutes of Santa trying to give us, you
know, either doing our gimmicks,recreating sound bites, or like
giving crazy takes that I would never agree with.
But that did entertain me or what we got to it and like
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multiple my fantasy leagues again, never winning, but in
multiple leagues having a great time.
I think he's still going to someLions games with him and his son
and others. So, so many great people.
Again, I could do this for days.I love our listeners.
I love the people. This is why I do it and I just
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want to hype them up. So there you go.
Let let's go ahead and do well. Here's a thought.
Let's get to the linebackers because I said I was going to do
that. And then maybe I'll end with
some random takes, maybe a rant or just hype you up with Detroit
kool-aid and tell you how we're going to win the Super Bowl.
So let me get down here to the LBS as I'm doing that.
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I did hear a very interesting nugget from Dan Freak Campbell
today. I think he said it on what
Sirius XMI guess that's still a thing.
NFLI think they have a whole channel, but they have a good
show, couple good guests, but I don't I didn't know that was
still going. But Dan Campbell and Brad always
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look for business homes, I believe was on that.
And Mr. the alpha himself, Dan Campbell said that this is Jack
Campbell's defense. He said he runs the show.
He is the man. This is his defense this year.
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Now, is that a shot at Fabio, Mr. Anzo, who showed up to camp
and it was said to have the greatest conditioning test of
all time and then surprisingly, wink, wink, not so much before
you get hit the practice field. He's got a he's got a little
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hamstring tweak. So he's not going to be able to
be out there, which is such a shame, especially when he's
wanting the Lions to pay him. Not surprising whatsoever, but I
did like the quote where Anzo said that he he is holding out
trying to get what he feels is due to him based on what he's
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done in Detroit. But he also said he will not
miss games. So I'm a little caught in
between, not that I'm the negotiating expert or some of
these crazy people you find in the business world or and all
types of life that just they live to negotiate.
They want a hardball, they want to save, you know, $0.82 at
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Wendy's just to show that they did.
They want to win the big deal. They want to show you how tough
they are when it comes to bargaining.
So I don't know if that's the greatest thing to say.
Because the Lions could be like,oh, so you're going to miss a
bunch of training camp, not playing the preseason, You know,
be healthy, be around your teammates and then be ready to
go for the first game of the year.
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OK, Sounds good to us. Contract will stay the same.
No, I'm serious. Like I, I kind of hope they give
him a bump, give him an extra year, give him a little bump and
pay this year. Give yourself some nice out so
it doesn't hurt you on the back end.
Everyone's happy and Anzo plays.So I'm looking at his cap hit
again. He's an aging linebacker.
He's been great here. Don't get me wrong.
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Leader, captain, good football player, you know, very needed on
this team. But I'm looking at his cap hit,
7.3 million currently average annual value 6.1.
Yes, it's still low in the National Football.
He's not like this guy's a top, you know, 20, even 50 paid, You
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know, I don't know where he ranks with linebackers, but he's
241 when it comes to cap hit as far as ranking.
So I mean, what are you going todo?
Are you going to bump that up to10 and then give him an extra
year and then also give the reins to Jack Campbell all at
the same time? I mean, I don't know.
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I don't know what's going on in there, but I'm glad to see he's
at least there. I'm hoping they get something
done relatively soon so he can at least practice and show his
teammates around ready to roll if the Lions want to play
hardball and just wait it out, knowing that he says he will be
there for real games. You could do that.
I think that could change if youdon't pay him and you wait
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around and then he says, ah, youknow what I said about playing
in the real games. I think I'm going to wait until
you guys, I don't know, pay me or give me an extra year or two
or whatever he wants. So I'm going to have to do
something for Anzo to get him onthe football field.
That's that's been stated. That's obvious at this point.
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Jack Campbell is an absolute physical beast.
He wears a big belt buckle. He doesn't even get his hair cut
done at Great Clips because he doesn't care.
He's a physical monster. I saw some interviews with him,
he seems that was head on straight.
He still doesn't say much which I appreciate from my middle
linebacker green dot type player.
We dubbed him Reward on the showbecause he reminds me of a high
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school kid that just was nothingbut football sometimes.
Maybe not that bright, but love football.
Great dude. Coaches love them, teammates,
people love them. And that's what I think Jack
Campbell is for this football team.
So I'm actually curious to see if they turn it over to him,
what he can do. But I also think he needs to
grow in coverage and kind of make more plays on the ball,
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sack, fumbles, all those things to really be an impact
linebacker. He's great at tackling, great at
hustling. Physical stature is tremendous,
but some more things on the play.
But we're here to talk about thecontract and the contract's a $4
million cat pit, 3.83.7 on the annual average value.
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That's why Ricky deals, even though he took this guy, what at
18 was he somewhere 1618 somewhere in that range?
He's really starting to come into his own, I think.
And yeah, say it again, Colt. Hero City's going to love him.
Just needs to bump that play up a little bit, stay on the
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football field, play physical, look nasty.
And he's going to be the next Chris Spielman type here in
Detroit. Derek.
I can't spell my first name right.
Barnes. DERICK.
Derek. You'd be even better if it was
Derek Barnes. Just saying outside linebacker
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lines decided to pay him. He only has a 2.5 cap hit this
year, but Derek Barnes on an annual average value moving
forward is going to be making 8 + 1,000,000 dollars.
It's a lot. He's young, he's busy, he's
physical. I guess I have a little bit of
beef with that deal, but not like at Chops and AD who acted
like we paid a stiff, you know, 10 times his worth.
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I don't think that's the case. I think they see a sending
player, a young player, a physical player, a guy that can
play the outside, can rush the passer, will never give you
trouble off the field. So I'm willing to invest in
people like that. Here's the next guy which we
have talked about, zero. I think on this pod.
He's getting a lot of buzz, people both for his linebacker
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play, his special teams play. I think I heard somebody, I
don't know if they were joking or not.
So this guy might be returning kicks.
They could play him on offense. And that's Grant Steward, the
outside backer with crazy hair from the Indianapolis Colts that
we picked up this year. Cap hit of 1.7, annual average
value of 1.7. So he's here, he's paid.
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I don't mind that contract. I think this guy is going to
turn heads and actually be a fanfavorite as well.
I can't wait to see what he does.
He had like 1520 tackles in a game last year.
If you let him play, he makes plays, he hustles, he gets after
you. So I like me some Grant Stewart
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and I don't mind this contract. The next guy, you know what he
is by sound, Rodrigo and the live version Rodrigo.
This dude's hurt, but he makes 1.1 million dollars .39% of our
entire cap. He showed flashes as a rookie.
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He was decent after that. He's been hurt a decent amount,
but we love the guy. We love his play.
He's very instinctual. We love that contract.
The next guy, Zach Cunningham's of that, we picked him up off
the street. It's not not confirmed if he was
working at the bowling alley or not.
He's actually been a pretty goodNFL linebacker throughout his
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career. More slender, tall type of
player, but has some injuries inand out of the league.
Out of the league recently, But back with the bands, Zach
Cunningham again, a nothing contract, $1,000,000.
Most of it seems to be guaranteed if he makes it as a
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depth player. I don't think that's the worst
thing in the world, 'cause he knows ball, he's played a lot of
ball and he's probably a good dude.
That's right why they picked himup.
So you got him. Last couple was just bundle him
quick. Ezekiel Turner, the never ending
Andre Fluellen type personality and Anthony Pittman, who's just
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here, not here, back here, used to what play at Wayne State.
I don't know if he was a security guard or not, but
Anthony Pittman is always on this team in some form or
fashion. Him and Tom Kennedy, I'm not
sure if they're roommates or what's happening there, but
Anthony Pittman is somehow stillon this roster.
You hear good things, you don't see him.
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He's always on the practice squad.
They cut him a lot. He comes back a lot.
Sure, he's a great human being. And then we got the Ron Gilbert.
So those guys all make million or less.
I'm not worried about it. If they can help on special
teams and give you a little something something, I'm good
with it. There's your linebackers,
people. There's your dollars.
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Make sense? Let's get the $1,000,000 man in
one more time as we close the book on this.
Where's my money? Comes the.
Money. Here we go.
Money. Talks.
Here comes the money. The dollar, Dollar, we've talked
(39:22):
about it, we've done it. It's in the books.
I don't even know what else to say.
I've done the dollars. Makes sense.
I've done solo. I try to entertain you with what
I give you. Like 5 to 8 minutes of whooping
up. The people shout outs, calling
out people that haven't called or haven't texted the show in a
while call us out for not havingLexi on or getting Logan back on
(39:47):
or talk to our guy Joey sports guy, or hitting up Tuna or
calling Santa. You know what I mean?
We got a lot that we should and could do, but I'm just glad I
get to hit the red button on this microphone talk.
Detroit Lions try to entertain you, give some takes that are
halfway entertaining, as well asgive you a different type of
show. And other than telling you the
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Lions are going in the Super Bowl this year, yeah, they might
not win 15 games, but they're still going to win the NFC
North. It's probably going to come in
around 12 to 14 games. They're still going to be damn
entertaining on offense. The defense is a little bit TBD
if you ask me, but we'll see. I hope they play well.
I love some of our ball players like my boy Brian Branch, Kerbo,
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Terry on TA, you know our guy DJ, That's my DJ.
Read DJ, that's my DJ. Or what about DJ?
That's my DJ reader who's actually back playing.
Go DJ, That's my DJ. Go DJ.
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We are ready to unleash Hutch. Unleash.
Exactly. Dan Campbell, Are you ready to
unleash Hutch or what? Unleash Hutch.
I'm ready to unleash Hutch. Oh hell yeah.
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Give me a hell yeah. I mean, other than that with our
defense or offense, our great depth on this team, the youth of
this team, I mean, it's that's basically and the fact that
we're going to win the Super Bowl this season and just show
everybody that last year was a fluke.
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That's a damn good football team.
We're not going anywhere. I mean, that's the bottom line
because I said so. And that's the bottom line.
Everybody, that's what I got, and I'll catch you next time
right here on the Detroit Coulade cast.
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Take care, everybody. I'm out.
Back the back start the plane. This game is.
Over it is over what? A comeback by the Lions.
Drink it in, man.
Drink it in, man. Cornbread Cornbread puffs down
Detroit Lions. Drink it in, man.
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Cornbread. Cornbread Touchdown.
Detroit Lions. Drink it in now.
Drink, drink, drink, Drink it innow Detroit.
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Kool-aid Detroit Kool-aid drinkers, what is going on?
Everybody's your host, Eric Okraright here on the Detroit
kool-aid cast talking about those lines.
Let me fill up your glass real quick.
Drink it in. Side of cornbread.
Cornbread. Got to make it a double.
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Cornbread. On the flagship show serving up
that delicious Honolulu blue flavored kool-aid.
I'm going solo today and I know the Lion just got to camp,
Players reported. There's practices, no padded
practices yet. People out there getting a lot
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of hype, lots of rumor, innuendo.
We got some injuries, but I'm going to somewhat hit on that.
But what I really need to do is quickly close up this dollars
That makes sense SENSE series that we've been doing.
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And I got 2 spots left. I might have missed 1.
I don't know. I know chops at chops in the D
my coast, my buddy did a safety what was it 10 minutes, 15?
I I don't know. He gave us a glorious nugget of
his time and knocked out a solo,which I do appreciate, even
though I got to give him a hard time.
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And I think that just leaves us with running backs and
linebackers. You guys know, I like to kind of
even them out, you know, offensive tackles, edges.
Then we go to corners and wide outs.
I think all I got left is Arby'sand L BS.
So I'm going to keep this prettybasic.
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I kind of want to just hit on the main spots, give you guys.
I'm actually going to do this onthe fly again.
Pull up some contracts, look at some caps, look at some ages.
Get through these and we don't have time to mess around.
But before we get into that, I'll just hit a little bit on
some of the happenings. I mean, everybody's all up in
arms. Oh my goodness, hell, great.
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I mean Levi's out for the year. I mean Levi owns Enrique AKA
maybe formerly AKA Big denim wasa guy that like we weren't
shopping at the bit forward to get in the draft.
Of course when they take and he starts wearing Honolulu blue and
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silver and I have a couple glasses of that Detroit
kool-aid, I'm like oh man, this guy's a penetrator.
He's a physical monster. No Was he out like two seasons
with a back issue and then everybody commends him for his
hard work and dedication after coming back from 2 years from
multiple back surgeries. Even though he got paid during
that time he gave nothing to theteam and he has a ho hum.
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I guess he did pretty well via PFF but I still didn't really
notice some type of season signs.
A one year $5,000,000 deal with the ads after no one else wanted
him. Or I mean we were so fortunate
to get a steal of a contract on this guy and somehow during the
offs and he slowly tears his ACL.
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He has a lot of things going on where it just had to get worked
on. I don't know the day before
training camp. I, I, I don't know what's going
on with this. I don't know if Levi like is
taking us for a ride and it's glad to get 5 mil for doing
nothing again or if he was firedup raring to go and the team
loved them. We couldn't believe we got him
for one years 5 and he's going to have this monster year and
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then this is so unfortunate. I I really don't know.
But to be honest, as much as we want to go crazy, we don't want
anyone injured. We can't leave this happen.
Why? Because guys had six months off
and shouldn't have been doing anything except working out
safely and have his feet up and his back rested.
It's this is not some all pro interior penetrating sack
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monster that's going out. This is a glorified paperweight
guy. I'm sure he's a tremendous human
being. Oh, we thought he was going to
do this. We hoped he was going to do
this. And now Levi's heading towards
being the shoe return guy at thebowling alley or maybe the guy
that gets the ball that gets stuck in the gutter.
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I I mean, it is what it is at this point.
Like we got young cats that can play there.
We've got some guys you never heard of that'll probably be
better than Levi for completely honest.
So I'm really not that concerned.
I mean, I don't like seeing Taylor Decker out, but that's
supposed to be minor. You know, we've got news today
before I got recording that Miles Boom by Yay Frazier is out
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till September, October at at best, says Dan Freaky Campbell.
Like, I guess I remember him having some injuries and why he
dropped in the draft, but like, I kind of assumed he was better
and was going to have a somewhatof a camp and be raring to go.
But that's not the case. I mean Rodrigo, that was the
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live version. Here's the sound drop.
Rodrigo. He's out to what, October?
November. I guess Brad always go for a
business home. Said that Aleem McNeil AKA Honey
Bun AKA Twinkle Toes AKAAKAAKA is supposed to be back sooner
than later, which still means probably Turkey Day at the
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earliest if you had to ask me. It's still TBD if you ask me,
but we'll see. I hope he heals up well, but I
can't imagine him making some miraculous comeback and being
back too early to help this team.
But any news is good news, I suppose.
We, we, we've got hype that #jamo Fast is out there doing
(06:51):
his thing, just using those legs, burning people looking
good. I mean I think I saw Kirbo swag
Alicias just show up and like skiing goggles and what else did
he have? He had like AWWE World
(07:11):
Heavyweight championship belt with some crazy medallion in the
middle. He had other gimmick, a tree on
which looked absolutely ridiculous yet the coolest thing
ever all at the same time. What else have I seen?
Tate rat second round pick, TateRatley just diving in at center
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got his deal done like the day before camp because all this
Bula Bula, the NFL teams and rookies and agents and they pull
all this hijinks and then like an hour before your practices
start, they sign. He's in there taking all the
reps at center, which I've got trepidation about.
I'm actually excited that the guy is not only just thrown in
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there, but he's smart, he's physical, he's got crazy goofy
slash, great hair. I mean, I'm for all this.
But it's going to be quite the adjustment for a rookie guy that
didn't really play it, you know,in his college days.
Might have practiced a little bit there to come in and replace
a guy like Frank Ragnasty, but got to do what we got to do at
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this point. So it sounds like it's mahogany
on the left. Tate Rat at center, Glasgow at
Wright, which is also interesting because Mahogany
played right guard his whole college career.
They used him at left last year.I think Graham is more seasoned
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at left, yet now he's I don't, Idon't know.
I'm sure it's a lot of cross training, a lot of things going
on. But other than that, I mean, St.
Brown, every time I see a practice, you know, clip of him
is just crispy clean. Just the routes, the crispiness,
the professionalism is just off the charts.
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I mean, I, I could just keep going down the list.
I did get a little Flack from mybuddy Wagner after the last pod
where I tried to half shout him out and make fun of him all at
the same time saying that he's ahe's a Lions fan.
But I don't know if he's a die hard loyal Detroit kool-aid
drinker until they start winningand then he's got his kid in
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jerseys. He's got whooping me up all the
time. He's he's very critical of the
pod at times, yet he's never come on.
He's never called in, never leftanything entertaining other than
to me via text, which we have fun going back and forth and
I'll like Wagner. I tried to do your gimmick on
air. I tried to give you some DAP.
I had to call you out because when the Pistons are winning,
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you're die hard piston guy. When the lands are winning, you
love the lands. When when the wings are rolling,
you got your hockey jersey on orpretend like you used to be able
to skate way back in the day. I mean, this is what's
happening. You're still my guy.
You're still a good friend. I still think your fandom is
genuine. But is it were you there when
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they were losing, you know, double digit ball games every
year all the time? I'm not so sure.
So that that was entertaining. Gosh, lots of life, family
craziness. Football is back and I think I
just did literally like 5-10 minutes random on all things
(10:32):
going on. There's so much more to talk
about, but I got to get to theseArby's, Elby's and I can't be on
here forever because I got 8 million other things to do.
Let's talk running backs before we hit our commercial break.
And the first guy on my list is Demo fo SHO.
You know, let's go. Demo has a cap hit of 8 million,
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just over 8 million. It says here on the old spa
track that is cap NFL rank is 210th.
Even though he just got Pisaid another three years.
Nice little number. His annual average value based
on that new extension, anything he had left 9.1 a year for demo.
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I mean, I love this guy. I love the player, I love his
mentality, I love his physicality.
I feel like it's a nice player on so many levels.
The contract's a little rich forme, I ain't gonna lie.
I'm glad he's here for multiple more years.
But when he got a guy like Junior Gibbs and you give Demo
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9.1 and keep him here. I mean, we love the combo, don't
get me wrong. But when Demo was out, you're
good. Sure look like a feature back.
Sure put up some cuckoo for Cocopups numbers.
I'm just just saying. Just saying.
So Demo is probably what, like 28 at this point?
Somewhere in that range from an age perspective.
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He's here for this year, next year for sure, I'd say.
And then after that it gets a little dicey of just like Izzy
around. Do they use like kind of that
get out of that void ear. So like I'm looking at it 28
exactly. I was on the money there for age
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25 and 26. His base is only 5.45 point 5.
There is a void here in 2028 andthen in 2027 like I said when
they could get out depending on what's going on like the number
jumps up to 7.5 and 10.2 on a cap hit.
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Now it does say here there's a potential out in 2025, which
would just make it a one year, $9 million type deal, but I
think that's already passed based on how this website is set
up. So he signed A2 year $18.3
million deal recently. And like I said, they're
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rewarding their guys. They're giving guys that produce
money, which I can respect. And as much as I joke that like
Jamir Gibbs was incredible like that 1-2 punches off the charts,
you know, they complement each other so well.
They're so good. I I don't mind that deal for
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demo, you know, running back string get paid a little bit
more. He loves it here.
He fits. He does some of the things that
Gibbs doesn't do well, Gibbs does things he doesn't.
So I'm good with it. I'm good with the demo contract
folk show, you know, let's go tothe multi dimensional
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positionless, wait for it, wait for it.
I might actually insert another commercial, which I know you
guys love right here. Wait for it a little bit more
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elite. Jameer Gibbs 4.9 cap 1.65% of
your cap for this type of elite talent.
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Not 11-12 plus percent like Jared Goff.
Soon to be 2025% for our quarterback.
Jameer gives his cap hit for an NFL rank is 364.
His average annual value on thatcrispy mid 12th overall pick in
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the first round of the NFL draftis $4.5 million.
Absolutely Immaculate. This guy's in just touching his
prime. I've heard the rumor in the
window actually from his mouth saying that he's split out
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everywhere now, which I have been calling for year after year
after year, and instead they just run him up the middle and
have a couple outside zones thathe takes to the house.
Jameer Gibbs in 2025, ladies andgentlemen, is 23 years of age.
His base salary for this season is $1.0 million.
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It's laughable. His cap hits like 474.7 for this
type of special multi dimensional talent.
We have him also for 20/20/2026 and only 24 years of age at
similar numbers. He then would get a fifth year
option, which he will get that will be in the range of probably
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12 to 18, maybe even upwards of near 20 million at that point.
And I don't care who's worth every penny you give him the 5th
year, you then extend him for aslong as possible to stay in
Detroit. And I don't want to hear any of
you people out there, but they're crazy.
He's a running back and we can'tgo.
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He's he's he's got no tread on the tires.
We can do that. We'll just, we'll just draft
another. No, none of that.
I I don't want to hear any of that.
Boola, Boola, any of that garbage from anybody out there.
Jamir Gibbs is irreplaceable. Too damn good, too young, too
special, too elite in every way to not have this guy on your
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football team. All right, here's where we go.
Rapid fire. Come on, Craig.
Craig Reynolds, their running back, makes 1.2 million on a cat
pit. He gets a whopping cash amount
of $1.3 million this season. Craig, I'm not going to pull up
his deal 'cause my computer is going crazy, but I'm sure this
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is either it for him or they canget out if they really want to.
You probably won't cause Craig fits the grit.
He's nasty. He will block you into next
Tuesday. He's a great dude.
He's been here a while. They love him OK.
The the next guy's real intriguing for me.
And that Sione Vaki, another guythat came out on like the first
day of camp and had to leave dueto injury.
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I think it was some type of leg,hamstring, whatever Dan freaking
Campbell has been quoted of. Santione Vaki is looked at to be
a weapon this year on offense. We'd love to see it.
We heard a lot about all the things he could do when they did
absolutely nothing offensively after a preseason last year.
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Wow. He ran down on kicks.
He made a couple special teams, plays a real special teams
great. I need him to do things
offensively. I need him to be gadget player
and him to run the football. To be the reason you had to have
this player in round what, 4 to trade up in the third?
I can't. I think it was a fourth round
pick. Need a little more from Cioni.
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I like his mentality. I like the guy, but I didn't see
much. I'm just going to be honest,
Kyle Robocucks cow. I I don't know.
I, I think I saw he's like an undrafted type player.
I'm not going to pull it up again.
He makes 840K. I'm sure he's a great human
being and hopefully has a littlebit of boom at running back.
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And then we just picked up Jabari Small, who everybody had
to tell you was this special find.
If Tennessee used to play at thetight, I don't know, Jabari
Small does nothing for me. You can probably get away
obviously with your top to come on Craig and Cioni.
If you add some other type of vet that gives you either speed
or power or both or is just helps you in a pinch, that would
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be tremendous. That's basically where we're at
with running backs when it comesto contracts.
Do those dollars make sense? Not CENTSSENSE, I think so you
pay Demo, you're gonna pay JimmyGibbs, and then you're gonna
figure it out after that. Everybody, that's a 20 plus solo
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or who knows what he's up to these days.
But he's not going to show you guys love like I do.
(23:25):
So like I pulled up the old kool-aid hotline here and let me
just go through some of these names.
And again, you guys can text, you can call.
If you call, I may pick up live.This thing comes through on my
computer to my phone. Like if I see calls come through
and I'm not doing anything, I might just pick up.
We might talk about those Detroit for like a good, you
(23:50):
know, depending on what your takes are and how humorous you
are, anywhere from one to maybe 10 minutes or you go to
voicemail and then you have about like 2 minutes, 2 1/2,
maybe less to leave a take that we think is funny.
Some type of sound effect that might get played on this show
(24:11):
like this. Thank you Stash in the a tail.
A caller that did that on a voicemail that then Co hosted
some shows with me and it's justa loyal die hard Detroit
Kool-aid drinker. So we need to get more of these
kooky messages. I need takes that are actually
(24:31):
entertaining rather than the same thing you heard on 97.1 The
ticket or some other Jibrone podor some beat reporter that you
heard that we don't respect hereon this show.
Like let me let me give some names again, let me remind some
of you who you are. I feel like Jim Rome about to
call out the clone saying I needI need some calls.
(24:52):
I need some takes, I need some opinions and I'm looking at you
Tuna or young Santa or C mill from Wisco or stash in the ATL
who I just mentioned. Wait, where in that blue hell is
cornbread Jerry? This guy used to call bi weekly
multiple times a week. I had him on the show and then
(25:14):
and you just poof, disappeared. Cornbread.
Jerry. I hope you're alive.
I hope you're still repping Honolulu blue.
I hope you're doing well. But you like literally gone and
I can't get a hold of you. I have not heard from you, but I
hope you're doing well. TBD if you ask me.
We'll see. I hope.
I hope you you're doing well andyou call.
(25:36):
We got Paul Jackson from Tampa. What about our guy Keith in
Puerto Rico? Beau de Frisco with this formal
segment that he wanted called BoNose, or maybe I called it Bo
Nose, I can't remember. And then Bo at time showed me he
didn't know. So maybe we cancel that I, I
don't know. Great dude, hung out with him at
(25:57):
a tailgate. Just fun in a couple fantasy
leagues. Usually finishes under where
your boy Oakley does, but it is what it is.
Where is KP from? Real deal sports talk.
This dude has his own show. He he may have came on for a
full episode. He's a good dude.
He has takes opinions. He used to tweet a lot.
(26:17):
I don't see him anymore. I hope we're not losing lots of
kool-aid listeners here. It's just kind of they're here,
they're active, and then they'regone.
Kind of like our guy Frank Ribble.
Wow wow wow wow Frank Ribble came out the woodwork and used
(26:38):
to send 10 messages a week to this show tweet us out, retweet
us out. I sent him merch I gave him a
banner that says Detroit kool-aid cast.
He got addicted to fantasy football.
He loves everything about the Lions, and this dude has
disappeared more times than I can count.
(26:58):
If he's here, you know it when he's gone.
Nobody knows where Frank Ribble is except that he did the quad.
Wow. And we're just like, where the
heck did Frank go? Wow.
We have no idea, but I hope he'salive and kicking and doing
well. Also probably fishing somewhere
at this point. What about our girl?
(27:20):
Go blue? Lexi 117, I'm sure she's out
there making fun of Buckeye fan or doing something else crazy or
making people laugh on Twitter or trying to remember why she
was going to come on the show. And then we lost to the
Washington Commanders and then we're like, Lex, let's not do
(27:40):
it. And we're not very happy.
We'll have to get you back on. And then we don't because why?
We're busy. She's busy cops, talks about it
every other week and never does a solo show, never books her,
never always wants me to do it, and it just doesn't happen.
Steve from Cali. What about Mike in the NYC?
I'm just going through some of these old messages that we get
(28:03):
Tommy Lyon from New York. We got Trevor from the kool-aid
Fantasy league. I mean it just goes on and on
for days. I can't read off all these, but
that's just a sampling of these crazy fun listeners that called
up and the next thing you know we give them a nickname.
They were known for certain drops opinions.
(28:26):
We call up young Santa and just do a 30 minute segment with him.
Most of it was like 25 minutes of Santa trying to give us, you
know, either doing our gimmicks,recreating sound bites, or like
giving crazy takes that I would never agree with.
But that did entertain me or what we got to it and like
(28:46):
multiple my fantasy leagues again, never winning, but in
multiple leagues having a great time.
I think he's still going to someLions games with him and his son
and others. So, so many great people.
Again, I could do this for days.I love our listeners.
I love the people. This is why I do it and I just
(29:07):
want to hype them up. So there you go.
Let let's go ahead and do well. Here's a thought.
Let's get to the linebackers because I said I was going to do
that. And then maybe I'll end with
some random takes, maybe a rant or just hype you up with Detroit
kool-aid and tell you how we're going to win the Super Bowl.
So let me get down here to the LBS as I'm doing that.
(29:30):
I did hear a very interesting nugget from Dan Freak Campbell
today. I think he said it on what
Sirius XMI guess that's still a thing.
NFLI think they have a whole channel, but they have a good
show, couple good guests, but I don't I didn't know that was
still going. But Dan Campbell and Brad always
(29:52):
look for business homes, I believe was on that.
And Mr. the alpha himself, Dan Campbell said that this is Jack
Campbell's defense. He said he runs the show.
He is the man. This is his defense this year.
(30:13):
Now, is that a shot at Fabio, Mr. Anzo, who showed up to camp
and it was said to have the greatest conditioning test of
all time and then surprisingly, wink, wink, not so much before
you get hit the practice field. He's got a he's got a little
(30:35):
hamstring tweak. So he's not going to be able to
be out there, which is such a shame, especially when he's
wanting the Lions to pay him. Not surprising whatsoever, but I
did like the quote where Anzo said that he he is holding out
trying to get what he feels is due to him based on what he's
(30:57):
done in Detroit. But he also said he will not
miss games. So I'm a little caught in
between, not that I'm the negotiating expert or some of
these crazy people you find in the business world or and all
types of life that just they live to negotiate.
They want a hardball, they want to save, you know, $0.82 at
(31:17):
Wendy's just to show that they did.
They want to win the big deal. They want to show you how tough
they are when it comes to bargaining.
So I don't know if that's the greatest thing to say.
Because the Lions could be like,oh, so you're going to miss a
bunch of training camp, not playing the preseason, You know,
be healthy, be around your teammates and then be ready to
go for the first game of the year.
(31:37):
OK, Sounds good to us. Contract will stay the same.
No, I'm serious. Like I, I kind of hope they give
him a bump, give him an extra year, give him a little bump and
pay this year. Give yourself some nice out so
it doesn't hurt you on the back end.
Everyone's happy and Anzo plays.So I'm looking at his cap hit
again. He's an aging linebacker.
He's been great here. Don't get me wrong.
(31:59):
Leader, captain, good football player, you know, very needed on
this team. But I'm looking at his cap hit,
7.3 million currently average annual value 6.1.
Yes, it's still low in the National Football.
He's not like this guy's a top, you know, 20, even 50 paid, You
(32:23):
know, I don't know where he ranks with linebackers, but he's
241 when it comes to cap hit as far as ranking.
So I mean, what are you going todo?
Are you going to bump that up to10 and then give him an extra
year and then also give the reins to Jack Campbell all at
the same time? I mean, I don't know.
(32:43):
I don't know what's going on in there, but I'm glad to see he's
at least there. I'm hoping they get something
done relatively soon so he can at least practice and show his
teammates around ready to roll if the Lions want to play
hardball and just wait it out, knowing that he says he will be
there for real games. You could do that.
I think that could change if youdon't pay him and you wait
(33:06):
around and then he says, ah, youknow what I said about playing
in the real games. I think I'm going to wait until
you guys, I don't know, pay me or give me an extra year or two
or whatever he wants. So I'm going to have to do
something for Anzo to get him onthe football field.
That's that's been stated. That's obvious at this point.
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Jack Campbell is an absolute physical beast.
He wears a big belt buckle. He doesn't even get his hair cut
done at Great Clips because he doesn't care.
He's a physical monster. I saw some interviews with him,
he seems that was head on straight.
He still doesn't say much which I appreciate from my middle
linebacker green dot type player.
We dubbed him Reward on the showbecause he reminds me of a high
(33:49):
school kid that just was nothingbut football sometimes.
Maybe not that bright, but love football.
Great dude. Coaches love them, teammates,
people love them. And that's what I think Jack
Campbell is for this football team.
So I'm actually curious to see if they turn it over to him,
what he can do. But I also think he needs to
grow in coverage and kind of make more plays on the ball,
(34:12):
sack, fumbles, all those things to really be an impact
linebacker. He's great at tackling, great at
hustling. Physical stature is tremendous,
but some more things on the play.
But we're here to talk about thecontract and the contract's a $4
million cat pit, 3.83.7 on the annual average value.
(34:33):
That's why Ricky deals, even though he took this guy, what at
18 was he somewhere 1618 somewhere in that range?
He's really starting to come into his own, I think.
And yeah, say it again, Colt. Hero City's going to love him.
Just needs to bump that play up a little bit, stay on the
(34:54):
football field, play physical, look nasty.
And he's going to be the next Chris Spielman type here in
Detroit. Derek.
I can't spell my first name right.
Barnes. DERICK.
Derek. You'd be even better if it was
Derek Barnes. Just saying outside linebacker
(35:19):
lines decided to pay him. He only has a 2.5 cap hit this
year, but Derek Barnes on an annual average value moving
forward is going to be making 8 + 1,000,000 dollars.
It's a lot. He's young, he's busy, he's
physical. I guess I have a little bit of
beef with that deal, but not like at Chops and AD who acted
like we paid a stiff, you know, 10 times his worth.
(35:42):
I don't think that's the case. I think they see a sending
player, a young player, a physical player, a guy that can
play the outside, can rush the passer, will never give you
trouble off the field. So I'm willing to invest in
people like that. Here's the next guy which we
have talked about, zero. I think on this pod.
He's getting a lot of buzz, people both for his linebacker
(36:05):
play, his special teams play. I think I heard somebody, I
don't know if they were joking or not.
So this guy might be returning kicks.
They could play him on offense. And that's Grant Steward, the
outside backer with crazy hair from the Indianapolis Colts that
we picked up this year. Cap hit of 1.7, annual average
value of 1.7. So he's here, he's paid.
(36:30):
I don't mind that contract. I think this guy is going to
turn heads and actually be a fanfavorite as well.
I can't wait to see what he does.
He had like 1520 tackles in a game last year.
If you let him play, he makes plays, he hustles, he gets after
you. So I like me some Grant Stewart
(36:51):
and I don't mind this contract. The next guy, you know what he
is by sound, Rodrigo and the live version Rodrigo.
This dude's hurt, but he makes 1.1 million dollars .39% of our
entire cap. He showed flashes as a rookie.
(37:12):
He was decent after that. He's been hurt a decent amount,
but we love the guy. We love his play.
He's very instinctual. We love that contract.
The next guy, Zach Cunningham's of that, we picked him up off
the street. It's not not confirmed if he was
working at the bowling alley or not.
He's actually been a pretty goodNFL linebacker throughout his
(37:34):
career. More slender, tall type of
player, but has some injuries inand out of the league.
Out of the league recently, But back with the bands, Zach
Cunningham again, a nothing contract, $1,000,000.
Most of it seems to be guaranteed if he makes it as a
(37:55):
depth player. I don't think that's the worst
thing in the world, 'cause he knows ball, he's played a lot of
ball and he's probably a good dude.
That's right why they picked himup.
So you got him. Last couple was just bundle him
quick. Ezekiel Turner, the never ending
Andre Fluellen type personality and Anthony Pittman, who's just
(38:16):
here, not here, back here, used to what play at Wayne State.
I don't know if he was a security guard or not, but
Anthony Pittman is always on this team in some form or
fashion. Him and Tom Kennedy, I'm not
sure if they're roommates or what's happening there, but
Anthony Pittman is somehow stillon this roster.
You hear good things, you don't see him.
(38:36):
He's always on the practice squad.
They cut him a lot. He comes back a lot.
Sure, he's a great human being. And then we got the Ron Gilbert.
So those guys all make million or less.
I'm not worried about it. If they can help on special
teams and give you a little something something, I'm good
with it. There's your linebackers,
people. There's your dollars.
(38:57):
Make sense? Let's get the $1,000,000 man in
one more time as we close the book on this.
Where's my money? Comes the.
Money. Here we go.
Money. Talks.
Here comes the money. The dollar, Dollar, we've talked
(39:22):
about it, we've done it. It's in the books.
I don't even know what else to say.
I've done the dollars. Makes sense.
I've done solo. I try to entertain you with what
I give you. Like 5 to 8 minutes of whooping
up. The people shout outs, calling
out people that haven't called or haven't texted the show in a
while call us out for not havingLexi on or getting Logan back on
(39:47):
or talk to our guy Joey sports guy, or hitting up Tuna or
calling Santa. You know what I mean?
We got a lot that we should and could do, but I'm just glad I
get to hit the red button on this microphone talk.
Detroit Lions try to entertain you, give some takes that are
halfway entertaining, as well asgive you a different type of
show. And other than telling you the
(40:10):
Lions are going in the Super Bowl this year, yeah, they might
not win 15 games, but they're still going to win the NFC
North. It's probably going to come in
around 12 to 14 games. They're still going to be damn
entertaining on offense. The defense is a little bit TBD
if you ask me, but we'll see. I hope they play well.
I love some of our ball players like my boy Brian Branch, Kerbo,
(40:32):
Terry on TA, you know our guy DJ, That's my DJ.
Read DJ, that's my DJ. Or what about DJ?
That's my DJ reader who's actually back playing.
Go DJ, That's my DJ. Go DJ.
(40:53):
We are ready to unleash Hutch. Unleash.
Exactly. Dan Campbell, Are you ready to
unleash Hutch or what? Unleash Hutch.
I'm ready to unleash Hutch. Oh hell yeah.
(41:16):
Give me a hell yeah. I mean, other than that with our
defense or offense, our great depth on this team, the youth of
this team, I mean, it's that's basically and the fact that
we're going to win the Super Bowl this season and just show
everybody that last year was a fluke.
(41:37):
That's a damn good football team.
We're not going anywhere. I mean, that's the bottom line
because I said so. And that's the bottom line.
Everybody, that's what I got, and I'll catch you next time
right here on the Detroit Coulade cast.
(41:59):
Take care, everybody. I'm out.
Back the back start the plane. This game is.
Over it is over what? A comeback by the Lions.
Drink it in, man.
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