July 16, 2025 • 51 mins
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kool-aid. Detroit kool-aid drinkers.
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We are here on the Detroit Kool-aid cast talking about
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those hands and I know I say that a lot, but it's true.
And I've got the one and only atshops in the D here ready to go.
He we're going to talk some. I don't even know.
We're probably going to talk some positions, maybe a group or
two, some dollars. Makes sense.
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I got some hot topics. I've got just rumor, innuendo,
hype, kool-aid and cornbread. You know what it is?
Everybody the one and only at chops in the D on the
Twitterverse. Choppy Chop.
How you doing? Oh, Korea, it's always a good
day to be back on the Detroit kool-aid cast, talking all
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things Lions, talking all thingsright.
You know, I'm just ready to go. It's July.
We got football and like T minus, I don't even know, like a
couple weeks. The Hall of Fame game is right
around the corner. We got lots to talk about.
You know, we came on here and you were just like, hey, Choppy,
just be ready for anything. I'm like, all right, you got it,
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host, I'm ready. Let's go.
Oh man, you always got to be ready for whatever you're on the
DKC. But Trump, we've been doing a
series that the fans like. We've done it multiple years in
a row. Me and you like it because we
kind of get into players contracts, dollars.
Does it make sense? SENSEI mean the people love it.
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So what I think we're going to do is we're going to kind of
divvy up, if my records are correct, I think we still got
RBSTESLBS and safeties left. So between me and you and some
kool-aid packets, we're going todivvy that up.
But I think today we're going tobounce between like, I, I think
we need to talk a little bit about our tight ends, you know,
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a small position, kind of like important position, though.
Curious what those guys get paid, if it makes sense or not.
And then we also have lots of stuff to get into when it comes
to training camp. Players reporting, some players
not reporting. Will players be added that
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hopefully will report? We know Dan Skipper will report,
that's for sure. I, we got a lot to get into, so
I think we're going to bounce around, surprise the people,
throw a couple surprises at eachother.
But chops I I'm wondering, should we mess around, talk
about like the weather, work day, you know, you know,
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anything else is going on in society or do we not have time
to mess around? We got to get into this.
No, I think, you know, it'd be really nice to tell the people a
little bit about my upcoming trip.
No, absolutely not, Okra. You know, we don't have time to
mess around. We got to get these people what
they need. Give them some kool-aid.
Let's go. I, I agree with you, Sir.
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So like choppy when we're talking about the tight ends.
I, I'm just curious off the top,are you a, how should I phrase
this? Are you a LaPorte support?
I mean the player and the contract.
I'm curious. Oh my gosh.
OK, anytime you can have a top ten, top five stud wide receiver
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for $1.6 million base total cap hit of 2.5, you take that to the
pay window, as Betty Blade used to say, and you'll run that
dollar because it makes a lot ofsense.
There is no question. Shout out to Benny Blades always
going to the pay window. Going to the pay 1.
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Exactly, I still got it choppy shout out Benny.
What? Right.
Oh, incredible stuff. I like what's what's our guy
like all the rumor in your window about Sammy biscuits, is
that like, well, he's the guy that we're going to have to get
rid of because we pay all the other people.
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So we'll just find another type like what's the what's the years
left? What's the dollar amount?
Do you got these type of stats in front of you?
Do I have to pull it up while I'm doing 80 other million
things over here? Is the original host the show?
I mean, what are you thinking onthis contract for Mr. Biscuits.
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I'm thinking that he's in year 3of a four year rookie deal.
I think his total pay for that rookie deal, $9.4 million, just
just an absolute steal for a kidthat's just balling out there.
He's got the stash rolling. He's ready to have a huge year
three. That's not a stash in the ATL.
That's a, that's a man stash on his face there.
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One more year left on that deal.You know, he's probably going to
be looking to get extended. Thank you, stash.
There it is. There it is.
But next year only a nice littlecap hit a 3,000,000, not even 1%
of the cap, which is just phenomenal.
Side note, you don't actually think that a like retired police
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officer stash on a stud athlete like Sam LaPorte is a good
thing, do you? Oh come on Ochre, you got to
love the 80s style stash. It's like the new thing.
These young buck kids, they wantto come out, they want to have
the nice little trim there. It's not.
The goatee isn't cool anymore. It's all about the stash.
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I mean, why though? Is it?
Is it funny? Does it, do you as a person
think that it looks style? I don't get it on any level.
Like if it was just goofy funny,I guess I could get it.
But it's a horrible look for anyhuman being, I think, if you ask
me. Yet there's a couple old dudes,
my uncle Eric included, which you probably might be calling
him old, but that dude was born to have a mustache.
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There's like a few people. We've known a few back in our
day, but like everybody else, no, I know this isn't a side
segment of the show, but it's something that really bothers
me, if you can't tell. We're going to have a kool-aid
packet on facial hair. Is it acceptable?
So first and foremost, asking the Chopster what's fashionable
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or cool is absolutely way out ofwrong.
I am hashtag dad like that's. True.
But listen, I think it's funny. I just think it's funny.
I think it's hilarious. Like when guys want to do that,
it's like that. It just cracks me up.
So look, you know Sammy BiscuitsAKA Tom Selleck AKA Magnum, You
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know, let's go. All right, so stash loves the
not stash chops loves the stash and the contract and the player.
Is that right? Are your your support and no
doubt. Absolutely.
Again, just total dollars that make sense.
Bargain bin deal. Love that second round contract
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Hashtag chop, you liking? Chop chop.
I need a little help here. Normally, of course, I steer the
ship. I'm I'm watching the, you know,
recording, I'm doing the computer.
You're sitting back with your feet up answering questions.
I need a little help. I need you to kind of tee up the
next tight end, maybe give me a contract that you're seeing on
that end so we can get through afew of these blocking sleds or
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great football players we have on our team that play this
position so we can get some other hot topics.
Give me a name and then I'm gonna hit you with like a topic
that's on my brain. All right that sounds good
listen, let's wrap up these tight ends here.
The funny part is you didn't even start at the top when it
came to to cap hit there buddy, because big Brock right is
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actually a bigger cap hit this year at 2.6 million than a boy
Sammy biscuits. So that which is quite hilarious
to me, you know, if you remember, I think it was last
year, it was the last season, last offseason, somebody made an
offer sheet to him and the Lionshad to, you know, end up taking
it. So he's he's locked in.
I think that was like a three-year, $12 million deal
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that you were just like rolling in your grave and going, Oh my
gosh, we're going to play. Hey, Brock Wright, $4 million
average over a year. And he's got a bunch of void
years on that as well for a dudethat blocks and then comes in
every once in a while when SammyBiscuits needs a break.
But what do you, how do you feelabout that?
Okra? You think 3, three years, 12
million for Big Barack and he makes this the most out of all
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our tight ends. This is a point of contention
for me again, because I totally remember that discussion and
it's like, everyone thinks Oakley hates Brock Wright and I
want him off the team. And it was like one of those
points where it was like, gosh, if you're going to give him that
type of dough, he could have like, like, I get it.
He fits our culture. He blocks, he's a good dude.
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He he finds the Enzo in every blue moon.
He made the big play against what The Jets?
I mean, everyone loves that. Like I I get it, but it's just
there's a breaking point for me,like with not only contracts.
So what does this player actually do?
And then what does he make? And wow, young all the factors
that come together if I want him.
So I think Brock writes A tremendous human being.
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I'm pretty sure I could live without him and get another guy
in here that could do what he does.
I want to give my quick take on Sam LaPorte, though, 'cause I
could teed him up and we got bouncing around talking about
mustaches. Like I really hope this guy can
stay and and stay at a good number for him, the team.
But like I said, everyone's writing him out of town and
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tight ends are starting to get Buco bucks, which is annoying me
too. It started with the
quarterbacks, then the wide receivers, then the defensive
ends. Now you see corners and safeties
getting $30 million a year. It's like, can we just pay
biscuits like 12 to 15 on a three-year deal and call it a
day? Can you be happy with that?
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He just got married. He's a pretty good player, but
he's not a guy that should be making $25 million to play tight
end. Like that's where I'm at with
his contract. I love it.
Now why chops? Cause rookie contracts, draft
picks are absolutely incredible when it comes to dollars and
they just make your football team.
But can we just pay someone at areasonable rate for once and
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keep him here and have him love the city and play a role for the
team, especially at tight end? Can we do that?
Yeah, it'd be nice. I mean, I know you these
contracts seem to be getting wayout of whack with the funny
money of the NFL, but I'm looking statistically like Sam
Laporta. If I'm doing my calculations
right here, he's like a a top 8 statistically best court tight
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end in the league right now behind some of these other young
cats. But you know, I, I, I don't see
this guy being the type of dude who just comes out like, I think
he realizes he's a piece of the puzzle.
He's not the big chip. So I'm hoping that he comes in
and he says, OK, I'll take a deal that makes a little bit of
sense, helps the team win a little bit.
Knowing that I'm still always probably going to be option #3
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or 4 behind #jamo fast the eliteweapon, and then probably
someone else in the mix there too.
So someone's going to not be able to get paid.
All right, chops side topic thatjust hit me that isn't the side
topic I want to get to. Where do you stand on tight ends
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in fantasy football drafts? Are you guy that has to have a
stud and go get someone early orare you wait it out, wait it
out, wait it out and get somebody that's not at bowling
alley status but definitely isn't one of the top, you know,
8 guys that's going to get you awhole bunch of points because a
real good tight end at the end of the day is like 805
touchdowns. Yeah, I so I when it comes to, I
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don't want to give away my entire, you know, I think we've
got a couple more fantasy draftshere, but I'll I'll give you a
little teaser for the people. I've I've got my put my tight
ends in tears. And if you're a tier one player,
that's usually the top four guys.
I'm going all out and getting you like, I don't care how early
it is, but after that I am like DVD, if you ask me, wait and let
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a guy fall in your lap because Idon't know, like sometimes it
happens like 10 round 10/12/13. You you know, you're getting a
guy like Tucker craft. You're like, what, how's this
guy still here? Did people forget about him?
Like and you there's always thatyou know, handful of guys 3 or 4
that they start off the preseason as the Titan 2 on
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their team. A guy gets cut, a guy gets hurt
and all of a sudden they're, youknow, right in the fold of it
and they're putting up stats. So I, you know, I like you if
you're elite, but other than that, I usually wait and see.
I don't get mixed up in the middle.
Middle junk. Chops, just so you know, I use
the Costanza rule with you in fantasy football.
I will do the opposite because everything that Chops feels is
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right must be wrong. Everything that you think I do
wrong is absolutely correct. So that's that's where you could
give me all your strategies. I'll crumble them up and throw
them in the trash. That's interesting though I in
the. RFL there buddy.
I feel like tight ends are an interesting breed.
I did give you a little DAP on the other show.
If you'd ever listen to the shows where I gave, you said
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your team's pretty good. I Yeah, I I think tight ends are
interesting in the National Football League and in fantasy
football. Let's put it that way, child.
We don't have time to mess around because we're about to
get to a commercial break beforeyou know it.
But I need to know about your boy Tate Rat before we get to
rest these tight ends. Like what is going on with the
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NFL talking about they don't know if they can give second
round picks like a .85% bump. You know by giving them a fully
guaranteed at all. One person did it.
So now everybody has to do it. All the players are holding out.
It's a conspiracy theory. They don't want to.
What is going on and why is our freshly minted center that needs
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all the snaps you can get at center guard wherever we want to
play? This guy going to be holding out
for like a couple of Dorito bagsand A and a thing of Jolly
Ranchers when it's all said and done.
This is absolutely ridiculous. It's got me hot.
To be honest. I'm I'm upset about this
ridiculousness. Well, the good news is that the
Tate Tate rat with, you know, his fresh, I mean, I think he
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rocks the stash. He's got the mullet, he's
fishing. He's he's fitting right into
that center roll that Frank Ragnasty left open for him.
I he's not holding out. He's that camp.
I mean, he's planning to be there.
Everything that I've seen is he's participating in everything
is just this weird. I don't I don't even know how
this is even a thing, if I'm being completely honest.
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Like you've got some second round players that are like
absolutely not. We're not reporting.
I think there's a wide receiver for, you know, another rival
team that's not going to report,not going to do anything until
this gets settled. But how does the NFL not have
this figured out? Like did the draft just have
start happening last year? Did guaranteed contracts just
start in 2023? No people, this has been the
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deal for years and years and years.
Why is this even an issue? Sign your stinking deals,
understand the rules, get everything in order.
And I hate this whole like, well, I have to wait for so and
so to sign his deal so then I can wait and re leverage that.
And then he sets the precedent for this.
Dude, it's a bunch of nonsense, a bunch of boola boola.
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Sign your deals, get on the field.
Let's play ball. But but why is it always this
snowball where like this was notonly not an issue a few weeks
ago, but they, like you said, they've had months to work this
out. The players know it's slotted.
Why are NFL teams really trying to make some claws where they
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get like $20,000 more and they won't give it to the player?
And you know, we know second rounders are like starters in
the league. So you can't give these guys
almost like a wow, a whopping 4 years.
Like what's a second rounder like 6,000,000 total, something
stupid like that. Like you got to hold on to those
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pennies like, but also why is itlike first rounders had to get
guaranteed. Now we got to guarantee all
second rounders next year. All third rounders want to be
guaranteed. It's like I, I feel like the
whole not to circle back to dollars makes sense, but we got
to get through the other tight ends.
It's like it's starting not to make sense where every year it's
something new that everyone has to get paid top of the market.
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Now these got to be fully guaranteed.
You can't fully guarantee quarterbacks because then
there's collusion. It's like it feels like a mess,
especially when the NFL prints money and it seems like they're
nickel and dime and they're guysa little bit, which is got me
upset too. Yeah, it's ridiculous.
I mean, I feel like this should be something that's settled in
the CBA between EU players unionand the NFL owners.
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Like there should be no disputeson what what's guaranteed,
what's not guaranteed? Like I don't understand what the
big deal is of guaranteeing a guy a contract that you said,
like you said, it's a it's a four year contract and it's
anywhere from like 5, I think it's like 5.8 to like 9,000,000
total for that whole group of players in the second round.
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Like can we not guarantee him 10million bucks?
Literally the salary cap is what, almost 300 million?
So come on, like you. Tell me these guys are like pro
bowlers starters beating themselves up in the trenches
and we're like, Nope, we we can't, we can't give them that
like 50,000 guaranteed. And then the players like, all
right, screw it. Then I won't come to camp.
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Like circling back to our boy Tate rat.
The reason I'm so upset is because like, if there's one
player other than maybe our linebackers where we need like
this guy and they need him out there, it's it's it's Tate
Rallage. You know, we need him taking
snaps, learning all the positions, being with his
teammates, not holding out. So you can get an extra
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Whataburger or so he can like say, hey, look at I won the war.
I got an extra $8000 / 3 years of my deal.
Like that's, that's crazy on both levels.
So I'm really hoping Tate rats like screw it, I got insurance.
I'm going to be in there or the team, hopefully the lines are
like, hey, all you other teams can nickel and dime.
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Hold out, keep all your guys. We're not going to play that
game. We're going to be like the
Texans take care of our guy. Keep it moving.
Yeah, you hit for me. You hit the nail right in the
head. Like the offensive line is the
biggest question mark coming into.
I mean, I know everybody likes to clamor about edge, but with
Frank Ragnell retiring, you've got this big question mark on
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the interior offensive line. OK, in in our heads, I know that
the easy thing to do is just say, Yep, plug in Graham here,
Tate Tate Rats here and Mahogany's there.
But I don't know, man, it's not just that easy.
So, you know, Tate rat maybe playing center Graham Glasgow
may blink and be the odd man outwith Miles Frazier chopping at
the bit to get in there too. So there's a lot of question
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marks on that interior. We know the tackles are going to
lock it down. But you are right, everybody,
I'm talking. Miles Frazier and Tate Rat have
to be getting the most possible snaps as they can as early as
they can because that is a huge question mark.
And we know that Graham Glasgow was looking a little long in the
tooth at the end of the last season.
So you could be looking at 2 rookie starters on those three
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out of those three positions real quick.
Oh my goodness. There's no question.
Choppy chop. I want to do this because I bet
there's only a few more tight ends to finish up that position
for dollars. Makes sense.
You can tee those up, get a little look, see at the
contracts. I know we we sprinkle the
sponsors throughout the show. I think we need to get like our
consistent like our reality sports online here.
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Maybe I'll do the shops funny voice, Spotify, start your own
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Maybe I'll shout out my guys at PFF all 22 or fantasy football.
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But we'll get a couple sponsors and we come back.
I want to sprinkle the last couple tight ends.
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I got a few more topics if your page is empty over there, but
keep this show in the good distance.
Mean you know we could talk for four hours and not blink, but
we'll finish up tight ends and the dollars make sense.
Get a few more hot topics and get up out of here for this
week. Does that sound all right to
you? That sounds fantastic.
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Me agree. In fact you already hit my my
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They've been listening for it each week.
So we got to give that to the people.
Let's give it to the little choppers today.
All right, sounds good. Everybody be right back.
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Kool-aid drinkers, we're back. Thank you so much for listening
to the show, checking out the show, sharing the show, repping
the show. Did you hear Chops talking in a
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goofy voice here in the break? Maybe, maybe not.
Did you hear about our boys at Reality Sports Online or Chops
think he's going to win a championship?
Oakley thinks he's got a sneaky team.
He's trying to win it for those hands, just like our team
couldn't do, which I had to rewatch in quarterback Netflix.
I had to watch your boy be funny, be around his beautiful
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wife. Then I had to watch him lose in
the playoffs. I mean, the team stumble that
that was hard to watch, no question.
But it did get me fired up for Lions football again, no
question. So chubby, do you got any
comments? You got any things you want to
say or do you want to just get into the second-half of the
show? Usually you got something to
say. I mean, I always got something
to say, Okri, especially when you come on and take a shot.
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And my boy Jared Goff, I mean, look, this guys a new dad.
He's welcoming the baby home. He's this hashtag dad, girl, dad
life. You know, welcoming is, I think
it's roaming Isabel again. I'm, I'm a proud new godfather.
Not only am I the conductor of the Hashtag golf train, I got a
new goddaughter. Super happy about that.
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So of course I'm going to back my boy Jared Goff.
You're going to get hit the wise.
You're going to hit the woos. Maybe you'll get a woo #choppy
likey. You're going to get a lot of
stuff out of me before we get into these tight ends.
All right, you did about what I thought you'd do.
We'll have to get back to the shout outs, the people, all the
gimmick tree, but we got to get through these last few tight
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ends. We've got other hot topics.
I kind of want to hype the people up because in case they
missed it, football is back, baby.
We got like they're gonna hear this on a Wednesday.
I think rookies are there on Wednesday, Thursday, vets over
the weekend, a slow ramp up because everyone be like
football bet. And then like they'll have three
days of nothing and then there'll be a bunch of
interviews and all of a sudden, like they're practicing for
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real. For all those knuckleheads that
actually made it through the Ticketmaster line that waited
for 8000 people and then actually got tickets where I was
like 1200 in line and had no tickets.
And I don't care because I didn't want to really go anyway.
And you wouldn't go because you're a bum ski, like I like
training camp will be rolling pads will be on, football will
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be back. And then the Hall of Fame games,
like the end of this month. Chops.
So I say it every week, but I'm just trying to remind the people
that it's here. But it's going to be a slow
ramp. And then we're going.
So I mean, let, let's get into this.
I need a couple more tight ends so I can give entertaining takes
while you put people to sleep. And then we'll get some hot
topics because everybody wants to know what #choppy said what?
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But then they really want to hear, you know, what Okri's
saying, Okri's takes, you know? Of course they do.
Of course they do. Well, yeah, you, the way you set
it up for me there. Let's talk about the rest of
these tight ends. Again, a lot of not much to talk
about here, but six tight ends total for a cap hit.
Grand total $9.1 million. Again, let's let's run down the
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list here. We talked about Big Brock.
We talked about Sammy Biscuits. Let's go to your boy Kenny Yeva
from The Jets first year signed a one year deal, $1.1 million.
I'm going to not going to lie, Idon't know anything about this
guy. I seem to remember you be giving
some hype about him coming out the draft when The Jets got him,
but heard a lot of like he mightdo something and then he didn't
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do anything and now here he is with the Lions.
Before you give a take on him, everybody can't forget about
Shane Zostra. He's our #4 tight end making
$1.1 million. Will Shane see the field?
Nope. Will he do anything that's
meaningful? Nope.
Will he play maybe a little bit in the preseason?
Possibly. Where do I even start?
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Like first of all, I'm kind of realizing why I don't let you
host for all. It's like I don't know what you
did there. You screwed up my gimmick lines
earlier. It took a couple shots at me.
You said that. I do love the shops can't
pronounce anyones name gimmick though that we don't even
realize is funny. But I bet the people enjoy
because I believe it's Kenny Yaboa.
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I don't know what you said, but I think he play it like old miss
or old miss. I don't know.
He played at one of those colleges, but like no, he was
not an Oakley favorite. This is not a guy that I've
touted of. I think we had the Rock
introduced him last week, I think is what we did.
Is this fruity poop? Just another body, another
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tackling dummy, as one of my former hosts used to say here on
the show. I mean, I have no high hopes for
this guy. Now one of my other funny
gimmicks is my boy Matt Derry from Shout Out to Locked On
Lions, who always calls Shane Zilstra one of the Flying
Zilstra brothers, which I think is funny.
I don't know if that has any type of connection or where that
came from, but that makes me laugh every time.
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I actually like saying Zylstra to be honest.
Like he's a guy that always flies under the radar.
Probably because with the flyingZylstra brothers, he is a guy
that when he's been called upon,he's actually like a decent pass
catcher and he had a sneaky ear.Remember he had like 3-4 plus
touchdowns out of nowhere and then he's been hurt multiple
times. So like everyone's forgot about
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him. But I'm telling you, if I need
like a 345 tight end that can help me in a pinch and you can
drop some plays where nobody remembers this guy's on the team
and then he sneaks out the back sky and scores a touchdown or
two like that's saying zoster. So I'm kind of hoping he now he
makes the roster, but the day hecan show what he can do cuz the
guy can catch passes and he's a good teammate.
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So there you go Choppy. That's what I got after your
Boola Boola intro you gave me where you mispronounced, you
said I love the guy and whateverelse you did.
There you go. You mean he's your boy?
Listen. Nope, Nope, Nope.
I gotta explain it to. You.
Yeah. You messed up that too.
You did 2 nopes. You didn't do the third.
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Nope. And then I was gonna hit the
drop, but I got it in there anyway.
There you go. That's right.
Look, I'm cutting off your drops.
So if the Zilster brothers are coming because Brandon was also
on the team. So you had Shane and Brandon,
the flying Zilster brothers, both Lions boyhood dreams
playing together in the NFL thatlasted for every quarter of a
season. And look, of course Shane
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Zylstra got a couple of touchdowns that year where we
had Hock and he went down in theinjury and we literally had zero
other tight ends that could actually do anything.
So it was like, well, we got to have guys that can block and
then, well, no one's expecting them to do anything or make I
don't actually catch a pass. So let's let's dial it up.
So they did and it worked. So.
Hey, chops you. Know look neither here to it.
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You know where I think St. Zilstra is really good?
You want to know? Oh God, the red zone.
Practice. We talking about practice.
Not a game, Not a game. We talking about practice,
practice. Man, I.
Like it? I mean, how silly is that?
Like an all time practice playerevery day and I haven't used
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that job in forever and it just popped out so I had to get it in
there. I had to work it in and and
chopped. I wanted to mention this off the
top, but I'm drinking a cold crispy Gatorade frost looks like
absolute Honolulu blue. I got a 12 pack from Amazon ship
right to my door if anybody needs some of that.
Delicious. Not actual kool-aid, but it
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looks the part, tastes the part,and tastes like Super Bowl and
victory if you ask me. Like hit it up.
Well, it sounds like we'll be serving some of that at the
tailgate on the Lions home opener later in September.
Not too far away, man. Right around the corner, we'll
be serving up kool-aid. Because you know what tastes
like victory, and it's an equal purple drink.
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Is that against Benedict and theChicago Bears?
Yes, Sir. The bears are what we thought
they were, what what we thought they were.
The bears are who we thought they were.
That's why we took the damn field.
Now, if you want to crown them, then crown them.
But they are who we thought theywere and we let them off the
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hook. Chops.
We're not going to let them off the hook.
Nobody's crowning them. Except I cannot wait to just
absolutely give it to Benedict when he comes to the D.
It's going to get ugly. I'm thinking 40 points for us,
not very many points for them. Can't wait.
And. You know what The funny thing
is, and I think a few people have said this already, but man,
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I'm going to double down. Watching quarterbacks and how
much Jared Goff really is in control of that offense makes me
feel even less worried than I was in the 1st place when
Benedict left because that dude is just, he's a commander of the
field. You know, he's, he's going to
continue to just lead the lead, the lead the offense.
I'm not concerned at all all this time.
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Oh, they lost both their coordinators Whoop deep flippin
do. We got Dan freaking Campbell.
We got Sheila the ham, we got Brett always open for business
homes. We got the hashtag golf train
and we got a slew of weapons. We ain't slowing down.
It's going to be a 40 burger. Hold on, chops, wait.
I'll let you get to the other tight ends.
You get to my topics. But did you really just say,
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whoop, Dee, do what the and you didn't do one of your new
gimmicks that the people love and that I think is very good.
What you did like, you teed it up perfectly.
You were there. And then you just use some other
version that was not even halfway as funny.
You've been, I feel like you've been you've been over using the
whoop Doo Doo basil for a bit here now on almost every show.
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So I was giving them a break andthen I was gonna let you cut in
and and give it, give it to the people too.
But I'll there's my version. Yeah, Chops.
First of all, since when do we like ease up on the genics first
and foremost. Second of all, like that was a
very half hearted effort by you and like you mess up my TBD if
you ask me. But we'll see.
I hope he plays well every week.And then I give you all this
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hype with your sound drops and stuff and you can't do a you
can't like give a little something something.
I mean, come on, man. OK, go ahead.
Nope, You got it on, You got it on lockdown.
You got it on lockdown. Your version is actually better
now than the choppy original, sowow.
The real marker is do you? Do you know what that's from
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Oakry? That's the question.
I no you you said it some movie I'm sure that I've never
watched. I have no.
Idea. Austin Powers.
Come on, man. Austin Powers.
Yes, Basil. Nice rack.
Family show chops, What else we got Tight ends.
Keep the tight ends moving here before we get off track.
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Sorry, let's, let's, let's wrap it up here.
We got Zach Horton and Luke Dealall making 800K.
You know, less than a 2.9% of the cap hit.
I don't even know if these guys will ever actually even do
anything. Do you have any hot takes on
Horton or Deal? I I don't there's a there's an
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undrafted rookie that we got though that I do like his name
escapes me and I don't have the the the good old roster page up
right now, but I swear they got a guy that has a little bit of
intrigue at the tight end position.
But those guys that you mentioned, not what whatsoever.
I I know they're not on the roster, but like I do feel like
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tight end's a spot where I'd like to invest in the future.
Let's say a decent vet comes because I feel like we're not
only really thin after like you got biscuits, you've got Brock
Wright, but maybe another guy that can only do some things,
but could be here for a couple years and actually be a nice
backup. I think that can catch passes be
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a little bit more of a offensivethreat because I always worry
about those spots and we've talked about a lot of them where
you only got a body and then yougot a lot of cheap contracts or
guys that haven't done anything in the league.
It's like all it takes is one injury to put you behind the 8
ball there to like really set you back at running back tight
end wide out online. You know our defense we've
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talked about as some thin spots edge and whatnot.
So I, I like to have two decent players and then another guy
that's like doesn't do much, buthe can help you in a pinch type
of thing. If you don't have that like
you're just looking for trouble.So I always feel like that with
tight end that we we're one injury away from having nobody.
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I think the Lions are, yeah, they're, they're they're,
they're taking, they're not taking a page out of the Oakley
book because we literally have one guy that's decent.
And then we got Brock Wright, Kenny Yaba and Shane Zylstra
that are ready to go. So, but a lot of times like I'm
fine with that because like if you think about it, I'm cool
with Brock Wright in that 3, four slot.
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I just need a little bit better 2 and that could be like an
aging vet that's like 2729 yearsold that like you pay him a
little chunk to come here and beour backup.
He knows his role. I mean, I'm sure we have a drop
for that somewhere, but like he comes in here and he's just like
knows his role gives us good backup doesn't get paid much.
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I feel like that would be a sneaky fine when it comes down.
Talking about dollars makes sense for this team, but it's
I've invested in in Laporta in in some fantasy leagues.
I feel like he's due. There were rumblings.
Then you hear that he was like, I think it was Saint Brown that
said, man, you didn't get the targets you wanted.
He was open a lot. He's hoping to really step it
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up. He hopes you get the
opportunities. Like, I think everything's there
for him, especially with all theguys on the outside and the run
game to be able to get him all those chain movers, all those
touchdowns, get him right back in the top three to five tight
end type mentality from everybody.
But he's not there now because he didn't have a great year last
year. So everyone took him from the
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greatest thing ever to Oh yeah, Sam LaPorte is OK.
It's like, no, I think you guys forgot.
Yeah, I think people are sleeping on him a bit here.
He did have a down year statistically, but again,
there's only so many mouths to feed one.
There's one football and too many mouths.
So it's I if if it got to if we got to the point where like, God
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forbid something happened to my boy ARSB, like Sam Bay Biscuits
would be willing and able to step right in and become, you
know, a lead pass catcher movingthe chains every, every down,
every distance. I have no no qualms about that.
What's funny too is he's like the tight ends we have are
mostly like they lean on the blocking side of things as well
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as the we're not going to pay you side of things.
But Biscuits is a guy that like man, he doesn't jump off the
page athletically. He doesn't catch 70 yard seam
balls with two guys on him, but he's always where he needs to
be. He gets a lot more run after
catch than you would think. We love the contract.
Like he does everything right. He's a great teammate.
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He's deadly in the red zone. So it's like you got to love
everything about him even thoughhe's not one of these flashy
potential exciting flex tight ends.
He can block if you need him to,but I like him a little bit in
space, but not run away from youspace.
Just savvy as well as knows how to find the sticks and the end
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zone. Yeah, the best way to describe
him, in my opinion, is he's justvery unassuming.
Like you look at him and you're like.
I don't got to worry about this guy.
But then you're like, oh crap, he just pulled a great double
move. He ran a great route.
He's got better hands than he looks like like he he's just
meat and potatoes. He'll push into the ground.
He'll he'll smash you, he'll block.
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But then, oh, by the way, he just, you know, beat you on a
steam route and ran a 25 yard touchdown catch.
So I'm I'm totally happy with everything Sammy biscuits and I
personally would rather have a non flashy non diva type tight
end. You know these dudes at tight
end U give me Sammy Sammy biscuits who just wants to get
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the job done, get his touchdowns, you know get a
decent pay but nothing crazy notrunning around with all this
bling or anything else. He just wants to play football.
Yeah, absolutely. Are those the tight end names?
Those are the contracts, very, very small group there is that
we get them all. Yep, Spot track, that's all six
of them there. It doesn't seem like a lot, but
that's who we got Oakry. And yeah, again, not a lot of
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not a lot of cap dedicated to the tight ends.
Only 9,000,000 for the whole season.
Yeah, makes sense though, because they only take a, you
know, 3 to 4 on a game day. You might have a couple guys
stashed away. Maybe here's some projects on
the old practice squad. I won't hit the Iverson drop
again. Chops.
I let's finish out the show witha couple things.
One like we've talked about it, but it's lingering.
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We're days away from vet report.Like what's what's going on with
Fabio? What what's up with the Anzo
situation? Is this guy going to get a
little extra duckets? Is he going to get another year
or two? Is he going to get play
hardball? Is he going to talk a big game
and then show up with his flowing locks anyway and just be
a good soldier and play like what is going to happen here?
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I'm very curious because I couldsee it going a whole bunch of
different ways. Yeah, I'm.
I don't know, man, I you know how I feel about Fabio.
I want to give him one of those crazy bet funny money deals, get
him a little more money, but something you know, that's got
some voidable years because he'syou know, again, he's not a he's
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not a spring chicken, right, He's 31 years old.
So but I hope he doesn't hold out man, because Derek Barnes
injury he's not going to be ready.
I mean, that puts a lot of pressure on the rest of the cast
to perform because yes, I know we've got Jack Campbell and yes,
we've got a couple, you know, Rodrigo and a few others.
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Actually, I think it's Rodrigo that's hurt as well, so.
Rodrigo Yeah, yeah, That was thesound drop.
The drop. Are you gonna give me the Are
you gonna give us live version? You gonna give us live version?
Sure, Rodrigo. That was the live version.
Here's a drop, Rodrigo. So, yeah, so we got some
question marks. We got some injuries there.
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If Fabio holds out, that might be a bit dangerous for the Z
lines. My take at this point is that he
will dig his heels and the Lionsare gonna have to pay or give
more years than we're gonna liketo have them play.
I don't love that, but I feel like that's kind of where he's
at in his career. That's sort of his mentality.
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He'll take it as a like a leadership where he's hold
strong. You'll probably still get what
he wants. And then everyone will be like,
yeah, wait, wait to get your money.
And so like, glad to have you back.
I feel like that's how it's going to go down.
In the meantime, you know, more snaps for reward as well as
Derek. I can't spell my first name
correctly. Barnes and others.
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It is a bummer that Rodrigo is that's a live version is what
they say. Like everyone was like, oh, he
should be back. You saw him in some videos.
He was all raring to go. And then Dan Freaky Campbell was
like, yeah, we'll probably see him in like December, November,
whatever. He said it was like, huh, what?
So that that is a bummer, but I,I do think this is going to get
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kind of rough. I, I, I would love it if it
smooths itself out in the next couple days, but doesn't seem to
be trending that direction. So that's got me concerned.
And what's before we hype the people up and get out of here?
Like what about what about Smithy?
Like there's a lot of talk. He's he's definitely coming
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back. Other people say he's going to
sign with Chicago. Then it's like maybe we don't
want him yet, Brad Holmes said. It's just a dollars type thing.
I mean, where you at with that now?
Now that we're right up against it?
Before it was like, oh definitely get back or not
worried about it. Now it's like 2 days away.
It's like kind of needs to happen.
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Not right now, but sooner than later to get him in and get him
rolling, I would say if you're going to go that way.
Yeah, I think this, I don't know, man.
I think the Chicago talk was actually just like his agent
Pumping's hubbing up something to try to drum up some like, oh
gosh, we don't want to lose themto a division rival, But it's
like, you want to go to Chicago.Like, go ahead, it's Chicago.
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They suck. So, you know, go ahead and go.
But I think that was all fabricated.
The Lions certainly have the capspace.
And I know Logan Lambrandir is all about take that $40 million
and push it to next year. It's it's good money to keep.
But these players that are out there, Fabio included, who see
that we have the second most capspace of any team in the NFL are
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like, yo, Brad holds open up your wallet, pay me like, and I
don't blame him, but look as sorry as Zadaria Smith goes
like, I don't know, man, like I like the guy.
I just I don't like that this isdragged on for so long.
Like if if he was going to sign him, just sign him.
Like what could we possibly be waiting for now?
Like at this point, Like why would Brad Holmes have not
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signed him at this point? Like either you're waiting for
the player to get desperate and take less money than he was
really wanting to take because he thinks he's a commodity, but
he's not really. Or I mean, Brad Holmes may be
waiting for cap casualties. Like he may be waiting for some
vets getting out of going out ofcamp that have some guaranteed
money that are going to get cut that he can swoop in and pay
cheaper. So, you know, I don't know, I'm
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kind of over the whole Sedarius Smith topic, to be completely
honest. Like sign number don't do
something because I don't want to hear about anymore.
Oh man, Salty Chappie over there.
I, I feel like the other way around.
It's like I feel the linebacker situation.
Like I kind of want to give the green dot to Jack Campbell and
just say we're good, but I don'treally feel that way.
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I feel like he needs another year or so of seasoning.
Yes, he makes a lot of tackles, but I don't know that I want to
put the whole defense on him. Even with the new coordinator
change and all that, I feel likegive that another year and then
you could do that. Very hesitant to pay and deal
with Anzalone too because he is so up there and he has some
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injuries and things like that. Where Z Smith, I feel like his
girls here, he's a good fit. We need edge shouldn't cost that
much. It's plug and play.
Just sign him and tell him to goget after the quarterback for a
year. There's no nothing behind it.
You don't have to give him multiple years.
You don't. It makes a lot more sense to me,
SENSE and just get it done. And even if he waits because he
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doesn't want to be at camp like he's a guy, you could get
towards the back part of camp, make sure his conditioning is
right. Get him in here and he could be
our starting edge opposite of Aiden Hutchinson when we unleash
him. Unleash.
Hutch. So that's where I'm at, man.
I feel like those are like the hot topics going into camp.
And then the last thing we got to do on the show chops is get
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people hype. Because I mentioned it before,
but days from now Lions players are going to be reporting to
camp. Days after that, they will be
putting on jerseys and shorts and helmets, and then before you
know it, it'll be pads and helmets.
And before that they'll be playing other teams, not in real
football, but in practice, pretend football called the Hall
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of Fame Game and preseason. And then before you know it,
we'll be heading to you know, wewon't be, but the team will be
heading to, you know, play the mozzarella sticks, the
cheddarheads, all those bumskis up there in Green Bay, those
counts and with with those foolsup there.
And then we get to come back andbe live and in person when we
take it to Benedict and they should cock out bears at our
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house. Shout out Joey sports guy.
Can't wait to see what he says about that.
Probably going to say, oh, we'regoing to blow you out or watch
out for Ben genius and some other boot.
And like, no, that that's not happening in our house Week 2.
Yeah, it's look, it's a great way to kick off the season.
You're going straight to Green Bay Sunday afternoon, 4:00
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kickoff on September 7th. It's going to be a look, it's a
just going to like we go to we go to Green Bay, we take care of
business, right. We put put Jordan love in the
ground and we start out O and 1Adivision win.
You just start at the game and then you get to come home and
you get to take it right back toBenedict.
You know, everyone's going to behyped for that game.
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Home opener. We're going to be there.
Tailgates are be going. It's a 1:00 kick.
So we don't have to be silly. We don't have to get there at
6:00 AM and tailgate till 7:00 PM before we get into the
stadium around 8. You know it's going to be a
good, good way to go on Sunday against the Bears.
And again, just how else can I say it?
You start the season 2 and O andyou're on your way to win in the
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division. You're the king in the North,
baby. Oh, you know he wants it when he
keeps it up like that. The.
King in the North, The King in the North.
And just in case you forgot, back to bat, Kings of the North.
Yes, we stumbled in the playoffs, but we were the number
one seed. We had every 15 and two.
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And this year we're coming for everything that Lombardi,
whoever wants to play us in the title game, the Bills, the
chefs, Baltimore, I don't care who it is, we're coming to get
it. So everybody, we talked a little
dollars makes sense, did some topics, some gimmick, a tree,
got after chops a little bit. We made it through as we always
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do. I think we kept it to 4550.
We love to talk here forever. When we're talking ball and
enjoying ourselves, we get out of control.
We try to keep it tight. We coming back probably with
packets on Friday, Monday, if you didn't notice, skipped
Monday and visit didn't do Monday packet.
I'll I'll get you back another way, maybe another fantasy
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football show just because that's what I like talk about at
this point of the year. But everybody, I'm sure chops
will do some gimmick a tree onceI'm done.
But that's what we got and we'llcatch you next time right here
on the Detroit kool-aid Casket. Everybody, we're out.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
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Here, bringing your butt. Kool Aid's got there's time to
run. Get a beat.
Oh yeah, back-to-back start. To play this game is over.
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It is over what? A comeback by the Lions.
Drink it in.
Drink it in now. Cornbread.
Cornbread touchdowns. Detroit Lions.
Drink it in now. Cornbread.
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Cornbread Touchdown. Detroit Lions drink it in, man.
Drink, drink, drink. Drink it in man deep Detroit
(00:53):
kool-aid. Detroit kool-aid drinkers.
What's going on? Everybody?
Let me fill up that glass real quick.
Drink it in side of cornbread. Cornbread.
Got to make it a double. Cornbread.
Cornbread. You get a three peat here on the
We are here on the Detroit Kool-aid cast talking about
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those hands and I know I say that a lot, but it's true.
And I've got the one and only atshops in the D here ready to go.
He we're going to talk some. I don't even know.
We're probably going to talk some positions, maybe a group or
two, some dollars. Makes sense.
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I got some hot topics. I've got just rumor, innuendo,
hype, kool-aid and cornbread. You know what it is?
Everybody the one and only at chops in the D on the
Twitterverse. Choppy Chop.
How you doing? Oh, Korea, it's always a good
day to be back on the Detroit kool-aid cast, talking all
(01:59):
things Lions, talking all thingsright.
You know, I'm just ready to go. It's July.
We got football and like T minus, I don't even know, like a
couple weeks. The Hall of Fame game is right
around the corner. We got lots to talk about.
You know, we came on here and you were just like, hey, Choppy,
just be ready for anything. I'm like, all right, you got it,
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host, I'm ready. Let's go.
Oh man, you always got to be ready for whatever you're on the
DKC. But Trump, we've been doing a
series that the fans like. We've done it multiple years in
a row. Me and you like it because we
kind of get into players contracts, dollars.
Does it make sense? SENSEI mean the people love it.
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So what I think we're going to do is we're going to kind of
divvy up, if my records are correct, I think we still got
RBSTESLBS and safeties left. So between me and you and some
kool-aid packets, we're going todivvy that up.
But I think today we're going tobounce between like, I, I think
we need to talk a little bit about our tight ends, you know,
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a small position, kind of like important position, though.
Curious what those guys get paid, if it makes sense or not.
And then we also have lots of stuff to get into when it comes
to training camp. Players reporting, some players
not reporting. Will players be added that
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hopefully will report? We know Dan Skipper will report,
that's for sure. I, we got a lot to get into, so
I think we're going to bounce around, surprise the people,
throw a couple surprises at eachother.
But chops I I'm wondering, should we mess around, talk
about like the weather, work day, you know, you know,
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anything else is going on in society or do we not have time
to mess around? We got to get into this.
No, I think, you know, it'd be really nice to tell the people a
little bit about my upcoming trip.
No, absolutely not, Okra. You know, we don't have time to
mess around. We got to get these people what
they need. Give them some kool-aid.
Let's go. I, I agree with you, Sir.
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So like choppy when we're talking about the tight ends.
I, I'm just curious off the top,are you a, how should I phrase
this? Are you a LaPorte support?
I mean the player and the contract.
I'm curious. Oh my gosh.
OK, anytime you can have a top ten, top five stud wide receiver
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for $1.6 million base total cap hit of 2.5, you take that to the
pay window, as Betty Blade used to say, and you'll run that
dollar because it makes a lot ofsense.
There is no question. Shout out to Benny Blades always
going to the pay window. Going to the pay 1.
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Exactly, I still got it choppy shout out Benny.
What? Right.
Oh, incredible stuff. I like what's what's our guy
like all the rumor in your window about Sammy biscuits, is
that like, well, he's the guy that we're going to have to get
rid of because we pay all the other people.
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So we'll just find another type like what's the what's the years
left? What's the dollar amount?
Do you got these type of stats in front of you?
Do I have to pull it up while I'm doing 80 other million
things over here? Is the original host the show?
I mean, what are you thinking onthis contract for Mr. Biscuits.
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I'm thinking that he's in year 3of a four year rookie deal.
I think his total pay for that rookie deal, $9.4 million, just
just an absolute steal for a kidthat's just balling out there.
He's got the stash rolling. He's ready to have a huge year
three. That's not a stash in the ATL.
That's a, that's a man stash on his face there.
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One more year left on that deal.You know, he's probably going to
be looking to get extended. Thank you, stash.
There it is. There it is.
But next year only a nice littlecap hit a 3,000,000, not even 1%
of the cap, which is just phenomenal.
Side note, you don't actually think that a like retired police
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officer stash on a stud athlete like Sam LaPorte is a good
thing, do you? Oh come on Ochre, you got to
love the 80s style stash. It's like the new thing.
These young buck kids, they wantto come out, they want to have
the nice little trim there. It's not.
The goatee isn't cool anymore. It's all about the stash.
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I mean, why though? Is it?
Is it funny? Does it, do you as a person
think that it looks style? I don't get it on any level.
Like if it was just goofy funny,I guess I could get it.
But it's a horrible look for anyhuman being, I think, if you ask
me. Yet there's a couple old dudes,
my uncle Eric included, which you probably might be calling
him old, but that dude was born to have a mustache.
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There's like a few people. We've known a few back in our
day, but like everybody else, no, I know this isn't a side
segment of the show, but it's something that really bothers
me, if you can't tell. We're going to have a kool-aid
packet on facial hair. Is it acceptable?
So first and foremost, asking the Chopster what's fashionable
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or cool is absolutely way out ofwrong.
I am hashtag dad like that's. True.
But listen, I think it's funny. I just think it's funny.
I think it's hilarious. Like when guys want to do that,
it's like that. It just cracks me up.
So look, you know Sammy BiscuitsAKA Tom Selleck AKA Magnum, You
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know, let's go. All right, so stash loves the
not stash chops loves the stash and the contract and the player.
Is that right? Are your your support and no
doubt. Absolutely.
Again, just total dollars that make sense.
Bargain bin deal. Love that second round contract
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Hashtag chop, you liking? Chop chop.
I need a little help here. Normally, of course, I steer the
ship. I'm I'm watching the, you know,
recording, I'm doing the computer.
You're sitting back with your feet up answering questions.
I need a little help. I need you to kind of tee up the
next tight end, maybe give me a contract that you're seeing on
that end so we can get through afew of these blocking sleds or
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great football players we have on our team that play this
position so we can get some other hot topics.
Give me a name and then I'm gonna hit you with like a topic
that's on my brain. All right that sounds good
listen, let's wrap up these tight ends here.
The funny part is you didn't even start at the top when it
came to to cap hit there buddy, because big Brock right is
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actually a bigger cap hit this year at 2.6 million than a boy
Sammy biscuits. So that which is quite hilarious
to me, you know, if you remember, I think it was last
year, it was the last season, last offseason, somebody made an
offer sheet to him and the Lionshad to, you know, end up taking
it. So he's he's locked in.
I think that was like a three-year, $12 million deal
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that you were just like rolling in your grave and going, Oh my
gosh, we're going to play. Hey, Brock Wright, $4 million
average over a year. And he's got a bunch of void
years on that as well for a dudethat blocks and then comes in
every once in a while when SammyBiscuits needs a break.
But what do you, how do you feelabout that?
Okra? You think 3, three years, 12
million for Big Barack and he makes this the most out of all
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our tight ends. This is a point of contention
for me again, because I totally remember that discussion and
it's like, everyone thinks Oakley hates Brock Wright and I
want him off the team. And it was like one of those
points where it was like, gosh, if you're going to give him that
type of dough, he could have like, like, I get it.
He fits our culture. He blocks, he's a good dude.
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He he finds the Enzo in every blue moon.
He made the big play against what The Jets?
I mean, everyone loves that. Like I I get it, but it's just
there's a breaking point for me,like with not only contracts.
So what does this player actually do?
And then what does he make? And wow, young all the factors
that come together if I want him.
So I think Brock writes A tremendous human being.
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I'm pretty sure I could live without him and get another guy
in here that could do what he does.
I want to give my quick take on Sam LaPorte, though, 'cause I
could teed him up and we got bouncing around talking about
mustaches. Like I really hope this guy can
stay and and stay at a good number for him, the team.
But like I said, everyone's writing him out of town and
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tight ends are starting to get Buco bucks, which is annoying me
too. It started with the
quarterbacks, then the wide receivers, then the defensive
ends. Now you see corners and safeties
getting $30 million a year. It's like, can we just pay
biscuits like 12 to 15 on a three-year deal and call it a
day? Can you be happy with that?
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He just got married. He's a pretty good player, but
he's not a guy that should be making $25 million to play tight
end. Like that's where I'm at with
his contract. I love it.
Now why chops? Cause rookie contracts, draft
picks are absolutely incredible when it comes to dollars and
they just make your football team.
But can we just pay someone at areasonable rate for once and
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keep him here and have him love the city and play a role for the
team, especially at tight end? Can we do that?
Yeah, it'd be nice. I mean, I know you these
contracts seem to be getting wayout of whack with the funny
money of the NFL, but I'm looking statistically like Sam
Laporta. If I'm doing my calculations
right here, he's like a a top 8 statistically best court tight
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end in the league right now behind some of these other young
cats. But you know, I, I, I don't see
this guy being the type of dude who just comes out like, I think
he realizes he's a piece of the puzzle.
He's not the big chip. So I'm hoping that he comes in
and he says, OK, I'll take a deal that makes a little bit of
sense, helps the team win a little bit.
Knowing that I'm still always probably going to be option #3
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or 4 behind #jamo fast the eliteweapon, and then probably
someone else in the mix there too.
So someone's going to not be able to get paid.
All right, chops side topic thatjust hit me that isn't the side
topic I want to get to. Where do you stand on tight ends
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in fantasy football drafts? Are you guy that has to have a
stud and go get someone early orare you wait it out, wait it
out, wait it out and get somebody that's not at bowling
alley status but definitely isn't one of the top, you know,
8 guys that's going to get you awhole bunch of points because a
real good tight end at the end of the day is like 805
touchdowns. Yeah, I so I when it comes to, I
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don't want to give away my entire, you know, I think we've
got a couple more fantasy draftshere, but I'll I'll give you a
little teaser for the people. I've I've got my put my tight
ends in tears. And if you're a tier one player,
that's usually the top four guys.
I'm going all out and getting you like, I don't care how early
it is, but after that I am like DVD, if you ask me, wait and let
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a guy fall in your lap because Idon't know, like sometimes it
happens like 10 round 10/12/13. You you know, you're getting a
guy like Tucker craft. You're like, what, how's this
guy still here? Did people forget about him?
Like and you there's always thatyou know, handful of guys 3 or 4
that they start off the preseason as the Titan 2 on
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their team. A guy gets cut, a guy gets hurt
and all of a sudden they're, youknow, right in the fold of it
and they're putting up stats. So I, you know, I like you if
you're elite, but other than that, I usually wait and see.
I don't get mixed up in the middle.
Middle junk. Chops, just so you know, I use
the Costanza rule with you in fantasy football.
I will do the opposite because everything that Chops feels is
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right must be wrong. Everything that you think I do
wrong is absolutely correct. So that's that's where you could
give me all your strategies. I'll crumble them up and throw
them in the trash. That's interesting though I in
the. RFL there buddy.
I feel like tight ends are an interesting breed.
I did give you a little DAP on the other show.
If you'd ever listen to the shows where I gave, you said
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your team's pretty good. I Yeah, I I think tight ends are
interesting in the National Football League and in fantasy
football. Let's put it that way, child.
We don't have time to mess around because we're about to
get to a commercial break beforeyou know it.
But I need to know about your boy Tate Rat before we get to
rest these tight ends. Like what is going on with the
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NFL talking about they don't know if they can give second
round picks like a .85% bump. You know by giving them a fully
guaranteed at all. One person did it.
So now everybody has to do it. All the players are holding out.
It's a conspiracy theory. They don't want to.
What is going on and why is our freshly minted center that needs
(15:19):
all the snaps you can get at center guard wherever we want to
play? This guy going to be holding out
for like a couple of Dorito bagsand A and a thing of Jolly
Ranchers when it's all said and done.
This is absolutely ridiculous. It's got me hot.
To be honest. I'm I'm upset about this
ridiculousness. Well, the good news is that the
Tate Tate rat with, you know, his fresh, I mean, I think he
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rocks the stash. He's got the mullet, he's
fishing. He's he's fitting right into
that center roll that Frank Ragnasty left open for him.
I he's not holding out. He's that camp.
I mean, he's planning to be there.
Everything that I've seen is he's participating in everything
is just this weird. I don't I don't even know how
this is even a thing, if I'm being completely honest.
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Like you've got some second round players that are like
absolutely not. We're not reporting.
I think there's a wide receiver for, you know, another rival
team that's not going to report,not going to do anything until
this gets settled. But how does the NFL not have
this figured out? Like did the draft just have
start happening last year? Did guaranteed contracts just
start in 2023? No people, this has been the
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deal for years and years and years.
Why is this even an issue? Sign your stinking deals,
understand the rules, get everything in order.
And I hate this whole like, well, I have to wait for so and
so to sign his deal so then I can wait and re leverage that.
And then he sets the precedent for this.
Dude, it's a bunch of nonsense, a bunch of boola boola.
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Sign your deals, get on the field.
Let's play ball. But but why is it always this
snowball where like this was notonly not an issue a few weeks
ago, but they, like you said, they've had months to work this
out. The players know it's slotted.
Why are NFL teams really trying to make some claws where they
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get like $20,000 more and they won't give it to the player?
And you know, we know second rounders are like starters in
the league. So you can't give these guys
almost like a wow, a whopping 4 years.
Like what's a second rounder like 6,000,000 total, something
stupid like that. Like you got to hold on to those
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pennies like, but also why is itlike first rounders had to get
guaranteed. Now we got to guarantee all
second rounders next year. All third rounders want to be
guaranteed. It's like I, I feel like the
whole not to circle back to dollars makes sense, but we got
to get through the other tight ends.
It's like it's starting not to make sense where every year it's
something new that everyone has to get paid top of the market.
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Now these got to be fully guaranteed.
You can't fully guarantee quarterbacks because then
there's collusion. It's like it feels like a mess,
especially when the NFL prints money and it seems like they're
nickel and dime and they're guysa little bit, which is got me
upset too. Yeah, it's ridiculous.
I mean, I feel like this should be something that's settled in
the CBA between EU players unionand the NFL owners.
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Like there should be no disputeson what what's guaranteed,
what's not guaranteed? Like I don't understand what the
big deal is of guaranteeing a guy a contract that you said,
like you said, it's a it's a four year contract and it's
anywhere from like 5, I think it's like 5.8 to like 9,000,000
total for that whole group of players in the second round.
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Like can we not guarantee him 10million bucks?
Literally the salary cap is what, almost 300 million?
So come on, like you. Tell me these guys are like pro
bowlers starters beating themselves up in the trenches
and we're like, Nope, we we can't, we can't give them that
like 50,000 guaranteed. And then the players like, all
right, screw it. Then I won't come to camp.
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Like circling back to our boy Tate rat.
The reason I'm so upset is because like, if there's one
player other than maybe our linebackers where we need like
this guy and they need him out there, it's it's it's Tate
Rallage. You know, we need him taking
snaps, learning all the positions, being with his
teammates, not holding out. So you can get an extra
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Whataburger or so he can like say, hey, look at I won the war.
I got an extra $8000 / 3 years of my deal.
Like that's, that's crazy on both levels.
So I'm really hoping Tate rats like screw it, I got insurance.
I'm going to be in there or the team, hopefully the lines are
like, hey, all you other teams can nickel and dime.
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Hold out, keep all your guys. We're not going to play that
game. We're going to be like the
Texans take care of our guy. Keep it moving.
Yeah, you hit for me. You hit the nail right in the
head. Like the offensive line is the
biggest question mark coming into.
I mean, I know everybody likes to clamor about edge, but with
Frank Ragnell retiring, you've got this big question mark on
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the interior offensive line. OK, in in our heads, I know that
the easy thing to do is just say, Yep, plug in Graham here,
Tate Tate Rats here and Mahogany's there.
But I don't know, man, it's not just that easy.
So, you know, Tate rat maybe playing center Graham Glasgow
may blink and be the odd man outwith Miles Frazier chopping at
the bit to get in there too. So there's a lot of question
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marks on that interior. We know the tackles are going to
lock it down. But you are right, everybody,
I'm talking. Miles Frazier and Tate Rat have
to be getting the most possible snaps as they can as early as
they can because that is a huge question mark.
And we know that Graham Glasgow was looking a little long in the
tooth at the end of the last season.
So you could be looking at 2 rookie starters on those three
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out of those three positions real quick.
Oh my goodness. There's no question.
Choppy chop. I want to do this because I bet
there's only a few more tight ends to finish up that position
for dollars. Makes sense.
You can tee those up, get a little look, see at the
contracts. I know we we sprinkle the
sponsors throughout the show. I think we need to get like our
consistent like our reality sports online here.
(21:06):
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But we'll get a couple sponsors and we come back.
I want to sprinkle the last couple tight ends.
(21:26):
I got a few more topics if your page is empty over there, but
keep this show in the good distance.
Mean you know we could talk for four hours and not blink, but
we'll finish up tight ends and the dollars make sense.
Get a few more hot topics and get up out of here for this
week. Does that sound all right to
you? That sounds fantastic.
(21:46):
Me agree. In fact you already hit my my
kids personal wish list. They asked Dad, when is the
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They've been listening for it each week.
So we got to give that to the people.
Let's give it to the little choppers today.
All right, sounds good. Everybody be right back.
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(24:43):
goofy voice here in the break? Maybe, maybe not.
Did you hear about our boys at Reality Sports Online or Chops
think he's going to win a championship?
Oakley thinks he's got a sneaky team.
He's trying to win it for those hands, just like our team
couldn't do, which I had to rewatch in quarterback Netflix.
I had to watch your boy be funny, be around his beautiful
(25:04):
wife. Then I had to watch him lose in
the playoffs. I mean, the team stumble that
that was hard to watch, no question.
But it did get me fired up for Lions football again, no
question. So chubby, do you got any
comments? You got any things you want to
say or do you want to just get into the second-half of the
show? Usually you got something to
say. I mean, I always got something
to say, Okri, especially when you come on and take a shot.
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And my boy Jared Goff, I mean, look, this guys a new dad.
He's welcoming the baby home. He's this hashtag dad, girl, dad
life. You know, welcoming is, I think
it's roaming Isabel again. I'm, I'm a proud new godfather.
Not only am I the conductor of the Hashtag golf train, I got a
new goddaughter. Super happy about that.
(25:46):
So of course I'm going to back my boy Jared Goff.
You're going to get hit the wise.
You're going to hit the woos. Maybe you'll get a woo #choppy
likey. You're going to get a lot of
stuff out of me before we get into these tight ends.
All right, you did about what I thought you'd do.
We'll have to get back to the shout outs, the people, all the
gimmick tree, but we got to get through these last few tight
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ends. We've got other hot topics.
I kind of want to hype the people up because in case they
missed it, football is back, baby.
We got like they're gonna hear this on a Wednesday.
I think rookies are there on Wednesday, Thursday, vets over
the weekend, a slow ramp up because everyone be like
football bet. And then like they'll have three
days of nothing and then there'll be a bunch of
interviews and all of a sudden, like they're practicing for
(26:30):
real. For all those knuckleheads that
actually made it through the Ticketmaster line that waited
for 8000 people and then actually got tickets where I was
like 1200 in line and had no tickets.
And I don't care because I didn't want to really go anyway.
And you wouldn't go because you're a bum ski, like I like
training camp will be rolling pads will be on, football will
(26:51):
be back. And then the Hall of Fame games,
like the end of this month. Chops.
So I say it every week, but I'm just trying to remind the people
that it's here. But it's going to be a slow
ramp. And then we're going.
So I mean, let, let's get into this.
I need a couple more tight ends so I can give entertaining takes
while you put people to sleep. And then we'll get some hot
topics because everybody wants to know what #choppy said what?
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But then they really want to hear, you know, what Okri's
saying, Okri's takes, you know? Of course they do.
Of course they do. Well, yeah, you, the way you set
it up for me there. Let's talk about the rest of
these tight ends. Again, a lot of not much to talk
about here, but six tight ends total for a cap hit.
Grand total $9.1 million. Again, let's let's run down the
(27:37):
list here. We talked about Big Brock.
We talked about Sammy Biscuits. Let's go to your boy Kenny Yeva
from The Jets first year signed a one year deal, $1.1 million.
I'm going to not going to lie, Idon't know anything about this
guy. I seem to remember you be giving
some hype about him coming out the draft when The Jets got him,
but heard a lot of like he mightdo something and then he didn't
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do anything and now here he is with the Lions.
Before you give a take on him, everybody can't forget about
Shane Zostra. He's our #4 tight end making
$1.1 million. Will Shane see the field?
Nope. Will he do anything that's
meaningful? Nope.
Will he play maybe a little bit in the preseason?
Possibly. Where do I even start?
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Like first of all, I'm kind of realizing why I don't let you
host for all. It's like I don't know what you
did there. You screwed up my gimmick lines
earlier. It took a couple shots at me.
You said that. I do love the shops can't
pronounce anyones name gimmick though that we don't even
realize is funny. But I bet the people enjoy
because I believe it's Kenny Yaboa.
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I don't know what you said, but I think he play it like old miss
or old miss. I don't know.
He played at one of those colleges, but like no, he was
not an Oakley favorite. This is not a guy that I've
touted of. I think we had the Rock
introduced him last week, I think is what we did.
Is this fruity poop? Just another body, another
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tackling dummy, as one of my former hosts used to say here on
the show. I mean, I have no high hopes for
this guy. Now one of my other funny
gimmicks is my boy Matt Derry from Shout Out to Locked On
Lions, who always calls Shane Zilstra one of the Flying
Zilstra brothers, which I think is funny.
I don't know if that has any type of connection or where that
came from, but that makes me laugh every time.
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I actually like saying Zylstra to be honest.
Like he's a guy that always flies under the radar.
Probably because with the flyingZylstra brothers, he is a guy
that when he's been called upon,he's actually like a decent pass
catcher and he had a sneaky ear.Remember he had like 3-4 plus
touchdowns out of nowhere and then he's been hurt multiple
times. So like everyone's forgot about
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him. But I'm telling you, if I need
like a 345 tight end that can help me in a pinch and you can
drop some plays where nobody remembers this guy's on the team
and then he sneaks out the back sky and scores a touchdown or
two like that's saying zoster. So I'm kind of hoping he now he
makes the roster, but the day hecan show what he can do cuz the
guy can catch passes and he's a good teammate.
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So there you go Choppy. That's what I got after your
Boola Boola intro you gave me where you mispronounced, you
said I love the guy and whateverelse you did.
There you go. You mean he's your boy?
Listen. Nope, Nope, Nope.
I gotta explain it to. You.
Yeah. You messed up that too.
You did 2 nopes. You didn't do the third.
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Nope. And then I was gonna hit the
drop, but I got it in there anyway.
There you go. That's right.
Look, I'm cutting off your drops.
So if the Zilster brothers are coming because Brandon was also
on the team. So you had Shane and Brandon,
the flying Zilster brothers, both Lions boyhood dreams
playing together in the NFL thatlasted for every quarter of a
season. And look, of course Shane
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Zylstra got a couple of touchdowns that year where we
had Hock and he went down in theinjury and we literally had zero
other tight ends that could actually do anything.
So it was like, well, we got to have guys that can block and
then, well, no one's expecting them to do anything or make I
don't actually catch a pass. So let's let's dial it up.
So they did and it worked. So.
Hey, chops you. Know look neither here to it.
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You know where I think St. Zilstra is really good?
You want to know? Oh God, the red zone.
Practice. We talking about practice.
Not a game, Not a game. We talking about practice,
practice. Man, I.
Like it? I mean, how silly is that?
Like an all time practice playerevery day and I haven't used
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that job in forever and it just popped out so I had to get it in
there. I had to work it in and and
chopped. I wanted to mention this off the
top, but I'm drinking a cold crispy Gatorade frost looks like
absolute Honolulu blue. I got a 12 pack from Amazon ship
right to my door if anybody needs some of that.
Delicious. Not actual kool-aid, but it
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looks the part, tastes the part,and tastes like Super Bowl and
victory if you ask me. Like hit it up.
Well, it sounds like we'll be serving some of that at the
tailgate on the Lions home opener later in September.
Not too far away, man. Right around the corner, we'll
be serving up kool-aid. Because you know what tastes
like victory, and it's an equal purple drink.
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Is that against Benedict and theChicago Bears?
Yes, Sir. The bears are what we thought
they were, what what we thought they were.
The bears are who we thought they were.
That's why we took the damn field.
Now, if you want to crown them, then crown them.
But they are who we thought theywere and we let them off the
(32:46):
hook. Chops.
We're not going to let them off the hook.
Nobody's crowning them. Except I cannot wait to just
absolutely give it to Benedict when he comes to the D.
It's going to get ugly. I'm thinking 40 points for us,
not very many points for them. Can't wait.
And. You know what The funny thing
is, and I think a few people have said this already, but man,
(33:06):
I'm going to double down. Watching quarterbacks and how
much Jared Goff really is in control of that offense makes me
feel even less worried than I was in the 1st place when
Benedict left because that dude is just, he's a commander of the
field. You know, he's, he's going to
continue to just lead the lead, the lead the offense.
I'm not concerned at all all this time.
(33:28):
Oh, they lost both their coordinators Whoop deep flippin
do. We got Dan freaking Campbell.
We got Sheila the ham, we got Brett always open for business
homes. We got the hashtag golf train
and we got a slew of weapons. We ain't slowing down.
It's going to be a 40 burger. Hold on, chops, wait.
I'll let you get to the other tight ends.
You get to my topics. But did you really just say,
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whoop, Dee, do what the and you didn't do one of your new
gimmicks that the people love and that I think is very good.
What you did like, you teed it up perfectly.
You were there. And then you just use some other
version that was not even halfway as funny.
You've been, I feel like you've been you've been over using the
whoop Doo Doo basil for a bit here now on almost every show.
(34:12):
So I was giving them a break andthen I was gonna let you cut in
and and give it, give it to the people too.
But I'll there's my version. Yeah, Chops.
First of all, since when do we like ease up on the genics first
and foremost. Second of all, like that was a
very half hearted effort by you and like you mess up my TBD if
you ask me. But we'll see.
I hope he plays well every week.And then I give you all this
(34:33):
hype with your sound drops and stuff and you can't do a you
can't like give a little something something.
I mean, come on, man. OK, go ahead.
Nope, You got it on, You got it on lockdown.
You got it on lockdown. Your version is actually better
now than the choppy original, sowow.
The real marker is do you? Do you know what that's from
(34:55):
Oakry? That's the question.
I no you you said it some movie I'm sure that I've never
watched. I have no.
Idea. Austin Powers.
Come on, man. Austin Powers.
Yes, Basil. Nice rack.
Family show chops, What else we got Tight ends.
Keep the tight ends moving here before we get off track.
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Sorry, let's, let's, let's wrap it up here.
We got Zach Horton and Luke Dealall making 800K.
You know, less than a 2.9% of the cap hit.
I don't even know if these guys will ever actually even do
anything. Do you have any hot takes on
Horton or Deal? I I don't there's a there's an
(35:38):
undrafted rookie that we got though that I do like his name
escapes me and I don't have the the the good old roster page up
right now, but I swear they got a guy that has a little bit of
intrigue at the tight end position.
But those guys that you mentioned, not what whatsoever.
I I know they're not on the roster, but like I do feel like
(36:00):
tight end's a spot where I'd like to invest in the future.
Let's say a decent vet comes because I feel like we're not
only really thin after like you got biscuits, you've got Brock
Wright, but maybe another guy that can only do some things,
but could be here for a couple years and actually be a nice
backup. I think that can catch passes be
(36:22):
a little bit more of a offensivethreat because I always worry
about those spots and we've talked about a lot of them where
you only got a body and then yougot a lot of cheap contracts or
guys that haven't done anything in the league.
It's like all it takes is one injury to put you behind the 8
ball there to like really set you back at running back tight
end wide out online. You know our defense we've
(36:44):
talked about as some thin spots edge and whatnot.
So I, I like to have two decent players and then another guy
that's like doesn't do much, buthe can help you in a pinch type
of thing. If you don't have that like
you're just looking for trouble.So I always feel like that with
tight end that we we're one injury away from having nobody.
(37:06):
I think the Lions are, yeah, they're, they're they're,
they're taking, they're not taking a page out of the Oakley
book because we literally have one guy that's decent.
And then we got Brock Wright, Kenny Yaba and Shane Zylstra
that are ready to go. So, but a lot of times like I'm
fine with that because like if you think about it, I'm cool
with Brock Wright in that 3, four slot.
(37:27):
I just need a little bit better 2 and that could be like an
aging vet that's like 2729 yearsold that like you pay him a
little chunk to come here and beour backup.
He knows his role. I mean, I'm sure we have a drop
for that somewhere, but like he comes in here and he's just like
knows his role gives us good backup doesn't get paid much.
(37:49):
I feel like that would be a sneaky fine when it comes down.
Talking about dollars makes sense for this team, but it's
I've invested in in Laporta in in some fantasy leagues.
I feel like he's due. There were rumblings.
Then you hear that he was like, I think it was Saint Brown that
said, man, you didn't get the targets you wanted.
He was open a lot. He's hoping to really step it
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up. He hopes you get the
opportunities. Like, I think everything's there
for him, especially with all theguys on the outside and the run
game to be able to get him all those chain movers, all those
touchdowns, get him right back in the top three to five tight
end type mentality from everybody.
But he's not there now because he didn't have a great year last
year. So everyone took him from the
(38:31):
greatest thing ever to Oh yeah, Sam LaPorte is OK.
It's like, no, I think you guys forgot.
Yeah, I think people are sleeping on him a bit here.
He did have a down year statistically, but again,
there's only so many mouths to feed one.
There's one football and too many mouths.
So it's I if if it got to if we got to the point where like, God
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forbid something happened to my boy ARSB, like Sam Bay Biscuits
would be willing and able to step right in and become, you
know, a lead pass catcher movingthe chains every, every down,
every distance. I have no no qualms about that.
What's funny too is he's like the tight ends we have are
mostly like they lean on the blocking side of things as well
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as the we're not going to pay you side of things.
But Biscuits is a guy that like man, he doesn't jump off the
page athletically. He doesn't catch 70 yard seam
balls with two guys on him, but he's always where he needs to
be. He gets a lot more run after
catch than you would think. We love the contract.
Like he does everything right. He's a great teammate.
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He's deadly in the red zone. So it's like you got to love
everything about him even thoughhe's not one of these flashy
potential exciting flex tight ends.
He can block if you need him to,but I like him a little bit in
space, but not run away from youspace.
Just savvy as well as knows how to find the sticks and the end
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zone. Yeah, the best way to describe
him, in my opinion, is he's justvery unassuming.
Like you look at him and you're like.
I don't got to worry about this guy.
But then you're like, oh crap, he just pulled a great double
move. He ran a great route.
He's got better hands than he looks like like he he's just
meat and potatoes. He'll push into the ground.
He'll he'll smash you, he'll block.
(40:19):
But then, oh, by the way, he just, you know, beat you on a
steam route and ran a 25 yard touchdown catch.
So I'm I'm totally happy with everything Sammy biscuits and I
personally would rather have a non flashy non diva type tight
end. You know these dudes at tight
end U give me Sammy Sammy biscuits who just wants to get
(40:39):
the job done, get his touchdowns, you know get a
decent pay but nothing crazy notrunning around with all this
bling or anything else. He just wants to play football.
Yeah, absolutely. Are those the tight end names?
Those are the contracts, very, very small group there is that
we get them all. Yep, Spot track, that's all six
of them there. It doesn't seem like a lot, but
that's who we got Oakry. And yeah, again, not a lot of
(41:03):
not a lot of cap dedicated to the tight ends.
Only 9,000,000 for the whole season.
Yeah, makes sense though, because they only take a, you
know, 3 to 4 on a game day. You might have a couple guys
stashed away. Maybe here's some projects on
the old practice squad. I won't hit the Iverson drop
again. Chops.
I let's finish out the show witha couple things.
One like we've talked about it, but it's lingering.
(41:24):
We're days away from vet report.Like what's what's going on with
Fabio? What what's up with the Anzo
situation? Is this guy going to get a
little extra duckets? Is he going to get another year
or two? Is he going to get play
hardball? Is he going to talk a big game
and then show up with his flowing locks anyway and just be
a good soldier and play like what is going to happen here?
(41:46):
I'm very curious because I couldsee it going a whole bunch of
different ways. Yeah, I'm.
I don't know, man, I you know how I feel about Fabio.
I want to give him one of those crazy bet funny money deals, get
him a little more money, but something you know, that's got
some voidable years because he'syou know, again, he's not a he's
(42:08):
not a spring chicken, right, He's 31 years old.
So but I hope he doesn't hold out man, because Derek Barnes
injury he's not going to be ready.
I mean, that puts a lot of pressure on the rest of the cast
to perform because yes, I know we've got Jack Campbell and yes,
we've got a couple, you know, Rodrigo and a few others.
(42:28):
Actually, I think it's Rodrigo that's hurt as well, so.
Rodrigo Yeah, yeah, That was thesound drop.
The drop. Are you gonna give me the Are
you gonna give us live version? You gonna give us live version?
Sure, Rodrigo. That was the live version.
Here's a drop, Rodrigo. So, yeah, so we got some
question marks. We got some injuries there.
(42:49):
If Fabio holds out, that might be a bit dangerous for the Z
lines. My take at this point is that he
will dig his heels and the Lionsare gonna have to pay or give
more years than we're gonna liketo have them play.
I don't love that, but I feel like that's kind of where he's
at in his career. That's sort of his mentality.
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He'll take it as a like a leadership where he's hold
strong. You'll probably still get what
he wants. And then everyone will be like,
yeah, wait, wait to get your money.
And so like, glad to have you back.
I feel like that's how it's going to go down.
In the meantime, you know, more snaps for reward as well as
Derek. I can't spell my first name
correctly. Barnes and others.
(43:32):
It is a bummer that Rodrigo is that's a live version is what
they say. Like everyone was like, oh, he
should be back. You saw him in some videos.
He was all raring to go. And then Dan Freaky Campbell was
like, yeah, we'll probably see him in like December, November,
whatever. He said it was like, huh, what?
So that that is a bummer, but I,I do think this is going to get
(43:54):
kind of rough. I, I, I would love it if it
smooths itself out in the next couple days, but doesn't seem to
be trending that direction. So that's got me concerned.
And what's before we hype the people up and get out of here?
Like what about what about Smithy?
Like there's a lot of talk. He's he's definitely coming
(44:15):
back. Other people say he's going to
sign with Chicago. Then it's like maybe we don't
want him yet, Brad Holmes said. It's just a dollars type thing.
I mean, where you at with that now?
Now that we're right up against it?
Before it was like, oh definitely get back or not
worried about it. Now it's like 2 days away.
It's like kind of needs to happen.
(44:35):
Not right now, but sooner than later to get him in and get him
rolling, I would say if you're going to go that way.
Yeah, I think this, I don't know, man.
I think the Chicago talk was actually just like his agent
Pumping's hubbing up something to try to drum up some like, oh
gosh, we don't want to lose themto a division rival, But it's
like, you want to go to Chicago.Like, go ahead, it's Chicago.
(44:58):
They suck. So, you know, go ahead and go.
But I think that was all fabricated.
The Lions certainly have the capspace.
And I know Logan Lambrandir is all about take that $40 million
and push it to next year. It's it's good money to keep.
But these players that are out there, Fabio included, who see
that we have the second most capspace of any team in the NFL are
(45:22):
like, yo, Brad holds open up your wallet, pay me like, and I
don't blame him, but look as sorry as Zadaria Smith goes
like, I don't know, man, like I like the guy.
I just I don't like that this isdragged on for so long.
Like if if he was going to sign him, just sign him.
Like what could we possibly be waiting for now?
Like at this point, Like why would Brad Holmes have not
(45:44):
signed him at this point? Like either you're waiting for
the player to get desperate and take less money than he was
really wanting to take because he thinks he's a commodity, but
he's not really. Or I mean, Brad Holmes may be
waiting for cap casualties. Like he may be waiting for some
vets getting out of going out ofcamp that have some guaranteed
money that are going to get cut that he can swoop in and pay
cheaper. So, you know, I don't know, I'm
(46:07):
kind of over the whole Sedarius Smith topic, to be completely
honest. Like sign number don't do
something because I don't want to hear about anymore.
Oh man, Salty Chappie over there.
I, I feel like the other way around.
It's like I feel the linebacker situation.
Like I kind of want to give the green dot to Jack Campbell and
just say we're good, but I don'treally feel that way.
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I feel like he needs another year or so of seasoning.
Yes, he makes a lot of tackles, but I don't know that I want to
put the whole defense on him. Even with the new coordinator
change and all that, I feel likegive that another year and then
you could do that. Very hesitant to pay and deal
with Anzalone too because he is so up there and he has some
(46:49):
injuries and things like that. Where Z Smith, I feel like his
girls here, he's a good fit. We need edge shouldn't cost that
much. It's plug and play.
Just sign him and tell him to goget after the quarterback for a
year. There's no nothing behind it.
You don't have to give him multiple years.
You don't. It makes a lot more sense to me,
SENSE and just get it done. And even if he waits because he
(47:14):
doesn't want to be at camp like he's a guy, you could get
towards the back part of camp, make sure his conditioning is
right. Get him in here and he could be
our starting edge opposite of Aiden Hutchinson when we unleash
him. Unleash.
Hutch. So that's where I'm at, man.
I feel like those are like the hot topics going into camp.
And then the last thing we got to do on the show chops is get
(47:36):
people hype. Because I mentioned it before,
but days from now Lions players are going to be reporting to
camp. Days after that, they will be
putting on jerseys and shorts and helmets, and then before you
know it, it'll be pads and helmets.
And before that they'll be playing other teams, not in real
football, but in practice, pretend football called the Hall
(47:57):
of Fame Game and preseason. And then before you know it,
we'll be heading to you know, wewon't be, but the team will be
heading to, you know, play the mozzarella sticks, the
cheddarheads, all those bumskis up there in Green Bay, those
counts and with with those foolsup there.
And then we get to come back andbe live and in person when we
take it to Benedict and they should cock out bears at our
(48:19):
house. Shout out Joey sports guy.
Can't wait to see what he says about that.
Probably going to say, oh, we'regoing to blow you out or watch
out for Ben genius and some other boot.
And like, no, that that's not happening in our house Week 2.
Yeah, it's look, it's a great way to kick off the season.
You're going straight to Green Bay Sunday afternoon, 4:00
(48:40):
kickoff on September 7th. It's going to be a look, it's a
just going to like we go to we go to Green Bay, we take care of
business, right. We put put Jordan love in the
ground and we start out O and 1Adivision win.
You just start at the game and then you get to come home and
you get to take it right back toBenedict.
You know, everyone's going to behyped for that game.
(49:01):
Home opener. We're going to be there.
Tailgates are be going. It's a 1:00 kick.
So we don't have to be silly. We don't have to get there at
6:00 AM and tailgate till 7:00 PM before we get into the
stadium around 8. You know it's going to be a
good, good way to go on Sunday against the Bears.
And again, just how else can I say it?
You start the season 2 and O andyou're on your way to win in the
(49:21):
division. You're the king in the North,
baby. Oh, you know he wants it when he
keeps it up like that. The.
King in the North, The King in the North.
And just in case you forgot, back to bat, Kings of the North.
Yes, we stumbled in the playoffs, but we were the number
one seed. We had every 15 and two.
(49:45):
And this year we're coming for everything that Lombardi,
whoever wants to play us in the title game, the Bills, the
chefs, Baltimore, I don't care who it is, we're coming to get
it. So everybody, we talked a little
dollars makes sense, did some topics, some gimmick, a tree,
got after chops a little bit. We made it through as we always
(50:07):
do. I think we kept it to 4550.
We love to talk here forever. When we're talking ball and
enjoying ourselves, we get out of control.
We try to keep it tight. We coming back probably with
packets on Friday, Monday, if you didn't notice, skipped
Monday and visit didn't do Monday packet.
I'll I'll get you back another way, maybe another fantasy
(50:28):
football show just because that's what I like talk about at
this point of the year. But everybody, I'm sure chops
will do some gimmick a tree onceI'm done.
But that's what we got and we'llcatch you next time right here
on the Detroit kool-aid Casket. Everybody, we're out.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
(50:53):
Here, bringing your butt. Kool Aid's got there's time to
run. Get a beat.
Oh yeah, back-to-back start. To play this game is over.
(51:15):
It is over what? A comeback by the Lions.
Drink it in.
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