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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Welcome to Divas that
Care's first virtual podcast
series called Boss Babe SummerLeveling Up in Life and Career.
I am Joyce Benning from theRobust Lifestyle Show with Divas
at Care, and I have with me abeautiful guest, Regina Curtis,
and her and I are going to chatabout this, and we're going to
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chat about follow your flow.
Oh my, like I told her beforewe started recording that is how
my life is, Just go with theflow.
So, Regina, could you pleasebriefly introduce yourselves to
our listeners?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
today, Absolutely.
Thank you, Joyce.
It's a pleasure to be here withyou.
So I'm Regina Curtis.
I am the creator and founder ofEdmatry and also the co-founder
of the Mingle LearningCollaborative, and what I do is
business development forentrepreneurs visionary
entrepreneurs to help themcreate and maintain a business
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that feels like magic excuse me,feels like home and works like
magic.
Hope it feels like magic too,and so I'm excited to talk a
little bit about all the waysthat I do that and how to apply
it both to life and business inour conversation today.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Oh, oh, and that is
so fitting to what Divas at
Care's first virtual podcast isabout how you level up in your
life and career and how theyjust both simultaneously run
together is how I like to thinkabout it.
So yeah and they just flowtogether.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
They flow together.
I like to call it holisticentrepreneurship Because, really
honestly, there's three pieces.
There's your personal life,right?
Your professional skills setsand ways of being, and then
there's also your infrastructure, and that can apply to someone
who's working in a career aswell as someone who owns a
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business.
It's just a slightly differentway of how it goes together, but
all three of those pieces areimportant and you are a part of
all of them, right?
You don't actually you don'tswitch who you are.
If you are at work or if youare at home, you may access or
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use different aspects ofyourself, right.
You might bring certain piecesto the forefront or lean on
different skill sets more in oneplace than the other, but if
you feel like you have to be adifferent person in those two
places, then let's take a lookat that, because there's some
that's going to cause someissues.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Oh, most definitely,
Cause.
Just be yourself.
To me, that's whatever you'redoing.
Just be yourself and it willall, all come together that way.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Absolutely, um, I
think for a long time in my own
career, and part of the reasonwhy I do what I do today, joyce,
is because I didn't always feellike I could be myself in, you
know, at work specifically downcertain parts of myself and turn
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up other parts and keep quietcertain ways of, especially my
ways of knowing right.
So I think the recipe forsuccess is quite simple You've
got to trust your, your ways ofknowing and being, and then take
aligned action with that right.
It's quite a simple but notalways easy recipe for success,
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and the trusting of yourself inyour ways of knowing and being
is the part that I think is it'shard to do in certain
environments, especially whenthose environments are telling
you that that's not acceptableor it's too much or too not
enough right Of certain ways.
That I think, especially inwhen you're working for someone
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else, in a space that is definedfor you what is acceptable and
what is not, and if that's whatyour truth is, if that's how you
actually are your mosteffective and effective
contributor, then that makes itreally difficult for you to do
that.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yes, and that's to me
and myself sometimes.
It's always you have tried tobe what others want you to be,
rather than trusting yourself tobe who you truly are Exactly.
I think that's something a lotof women struggle with.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Absolutely,
absolutely.
You know the and especiallylooking at at women, right, I
think that we all have, um, it'snot necessarily a gender issue
of, like, men do this and womendo it this way, right, however,
if you look at it as like thedivine feminine feminine and the
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divine masculine, like theenergies of how those two things
play together, and thatfeminine way of doing business
is receptive, it's intuitive, itis um, it's uh dynamic, right,
like it really has.
Uh can change and shift andevolve, and the more uh
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masculine way is really focusedand it is uh energized and it's
forward moving.
And so you actually need bothof those things and you need
them in life and in business.
And when you can uh really kindof allow both of those aspects
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to support you and guide you andutilize them, when it's the
correct time for you to utilizethem and for the correct
alignment with whatever it isthat you're accomplishing or or
working towards, then that'swhere it really works like magic
and it feels really good, right, it feels whole, it feels
complete, it feels joyful andproductive, right, it can be
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both things at the same time.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Oh, yes, yes.
That's where the magic comestogether is when you can take
both of them and trust yourselfto utilize each one of them in
the correct way.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Exactly, yes, I love
it.
So how do you follow your flow,joyce?
I'm curious to hear what.
What are the ways that you knowwhen you're in flow?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Probably it's going
to my heart and knowing what my
heart is telling me that I needto do and the direction I need
to take on this and get out of,get out of that mind, that ego.
And get out of that mind, thatego that so wants to drive us
sometime, and listen to thatquiet little voice.
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And when I listen to that softvoice, I know it's my heart
telling me, and that's my heart,your angels, your guides, your
spirits, however you want to sayit, it's them guiding you down
that path that you need to betaking.
And that's how I know I'm inflow and it feels good.
The smile yeah, the smile justcomes.
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You feel like I'm doing what Ineed to be doing.
I love it.
Joyful.
You said you feel the joy andyou do.
You truly do when you follow it.
So that's how I do it.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I love that.
Yeah, I think it's.
You know, I love that you saidthe smile just comes.
I remember several years ago Iwas talking with someone and I
talk about these often how youhave yes, indicators and no
indicators, and your body andyour mind, and you know there's
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different ways that you receivethese indicators.
So your, what I would like to,what I call your soul, wisdom,
you might call it your intuition, you might call it your you
know the guidance from theuniverse, or God or spirit,
right, there's different waysthat information comes in, that
knowing, and there are sixdifferent ways that it's
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communicated.
So there's thoughts, images,emotions, movement, sensory and
then also spatial awareness, andso we all have all of these
communicating to us at all times.
However, we're more fluent insome than others and likely have
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one that is our go topreference.
I know that the more you youlean into and practice utilizing
these and being aware of themand listening for them and
practice playing with them, thatthe more, the stronger the
communication gets, and you canalso pick up some more of the
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nuances of how differentchannels are speaking to you or
through you at the same time,and when I was talking with
someone about this at one point.
I asked them, I said what areyour yes indicators?
How do you know when your bodyor your mind, your soul, is
saying yes?
Does it show up as a movement,does it show up as a thought?
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Is there some kind of sensationthat happens?
And and she said you know, Ithink it's really quite simple.
I just I smile.
And she's like, when I tell mykids that when I smile, I know
it's a yes, they tell me well,of course, mom, like you, can
make yourself smile anytime.
And while that's true, there'sa big difference between a smile
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that happens from within, withthat just shows up on your face
and smile.
We're going to take a photo,right, you can see it, you can
feel it.
There's a difference betweenthose things.
And I was like yes, exactly,it's those simple things, those
things that seem absolutelynatural and totally normal for
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you and you've been doing yourwhole life.
That's how you know that it'strue for you and it won't be the
same for everyone else.
It's the same with the weirdthings that happen that tell you
no right.
People often say, well, thisweird thing happens.
I don't think it's weird at all.
I think that it's actually verycommon, very normal for these
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things to happen, but they seemweird because it doesn't happen
in the same way for other people.
So, for instance, when I getreally nervous, um, or I get
really scared, my shins sweat,um, and it's like who did I?
Did you even know you had sweatglands in your shins?
You know, like um, somebodytold me her elbows get itchy.
She's like I know I can't gosomewhere if my elbows get itchy
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.
Um and it's.
I think it's fascinating, right,your body is.
Tell us exactly they.
They tell us the answers.
And it's not always your gut,it's not always your heart.
It will be for some people,some people, like you said,
joyce, it'll be my heart, myheart will tell me when I'm in
flow.
For others, they might feelthis like opening or brightness
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in their gut right, or anuplifting in their chest, or
they might feel like a sigh ofrelief and for nose.
For me, aside from the sweatyshins, I also feel this
heaviness, like I can feel myfeet pushing into the ground.
I can feel like there's weighton my shoulders, um.
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So it's interesting that you,you know, like I like to say
that I know when it's go time, Iknow when it's slow time and I
I know when we're not goinganywhere, because my body will
tell me like exactly what I needto know.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
And, and it's so,
does it just if you just listen
to your body and become in tunewith what is happening with your
body?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Yeah, it lets you
know, it will let you know, and
if you don't listen, it willspeak louder, yeah it does.
Oh no, you're gonna sit down nowand listen to me.
You haven't been listening.
Yeah, you know, I think there'salso.
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So there's like internalindicators, but there's also
external indicators and there'sdifferent environmental
influences.
And one of the things that Ilove to do with people is to
help them understand what thatdynamic is between what's
happening internally and what'shappening externally, what's
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happening internally and what'shappening externally.
So, for instance, if you thinkabout like seasonal depression
right, some people get seasonaldepression because it's like
there's the light, there's notenough light, and they really
get kind of depressed duringcertain times of the year.
It's not the only case of thatwhere there's a dynamic, that is
, some kind of external factorthat is influencing something
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internal.
And the way that I would kindof start looking at that is
where are you in your internalcycle of development?
What season are you in, anddoes that season actually
complement, and is itcomplemented by and supported by
, these external energies thatare happening, whether it is a
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season, whether external season,weather season, whether it is
an environment that you're in,whether it is a relationship
that you're in, and is thatsupportive and complimentary or
is it actually creating somefriction?
Is it creating a challenge isit amplifying something that's
happening within you in botheither a supportive or a
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non-supportive way yeah, oh yes,it's.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
It is so true because
and something that comes to
mind when you said that kind oflike about people get depressed
in the different seasons mygo-to is to stop and start to
see what I'm grateful for inthat situation, be it a
challenge that has arisen, be itanything.
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Just stop a moment and find thegratitude in it and what you're
grateful for.
And sometimes you have to looka little bit is it under this
couch cushion over here?
that's right but once you for me, once I find that it's like a
mind shift.
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I'm'm like, oh, okay, then youstart to see the positives
rather than the negatives in thesituation.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
And that is huge,
absolutely.
So I think there's a lot ofdifferent touchstones that we
can rely on, and gratitude isone that is absolutely
transformative.
I've seen it be transformativein many, many situations and, as
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you implied, sometimes it'shard to find that gratitude in
the moment and you have to looka little bit right.
Other things that I like toimplement is having different
structures and systems andpeople, and you know I call
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these the touchstones.
They're time, teachers, tools,techniques, talents and
technology, and so how can thesethings come in and support you
when you are having a challengeright, when you're challenged by
something, and maybe you knowalready that challenge is coming
up, so you might engage thesetouchstones to help you prepare
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so that, going into thisenvironment, you're more calm,
you're more open-minded, you'remore at peace, you know whatever
those things are that you need,or you might get into it and go
, whoops, okay, here I am.
I didn't know I was walking intothis, but now I'm in it and,
yes, gratitude is absolutely oneof those anchors, right, that
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can bring you into that spaceand bring you back into a
peaceful state, into a positivestate of mind, and maybe the way
that you're able to access thatis by playing some music or by
drawing, or going outside andspending time with your horses,
or taking a walk in nature,right, doing some breath
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exercises.
So when you can actuallyidentify what these things are
for you and then actually eventake it one step further into I
know that in this season theseare my go-to touchstones, right,
so you have it prepared then,when you do that pause that you
mentioned, to kind of take stockof the situation and see what's
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going on, you have a wholevariety of things that you can
lean on to say, oh okay, I'mgoing to engage this touchstone
which is going to help me get tothat space of gratitude, that
space of peace, that space ofbeing able to, you know, keep
moving forward more effectively,more efficiently and with much
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more joy.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Oh yes, so so very
true.
And the other thing I think ofa lot of times is what am I,
what is the universe?
Angels, god trying, whoever yougo to trying to teach me in?
Speaker 3 (18:15):
this challenge.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
What do I need to
learn from it?
And come out on the other sidea better person.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah, that is always
another go-to for me.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Another catchstone, I
would say yeah, absolutely A
touchstone there.
Joyce, I think you know yourtouchstones really well and you
know they do differ for eachperson as far as what their
touchstones are, that are goingto always show up and be those
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reliable call them touchstones,but your rock right Like the
thing that you can always relyon um is another way of saying
that and, uh, there may be somethat are your core right Like
there.
They are your core go-to, arealways going to be the thing
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that is going to create a shift.
And then you may have some thatare really helpful sometimes,
or some circumstances, and notso much in others, but this
group over here is reallyhelpful at that time or in that
circumstance.
So it's, you know, the pointbeing that when you do follow
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your flow right, when you allowyourself to be supported, no
matter what season you're in, nomatter what terrain, no matter
what circumstances, and you havethe tools to cope with the
challenges that come to you,then that's when everything gets
to be more enjoyable,everything gets to flow more
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easily and more joyfully and youget to experience a whole lot
more magic.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Oh, yes, definitely.
Then the magic, the smiles, thejoy, they just all come when
you bring all that together andcan go inside yourself as to how
I feel and get through thechallenge that you are dealing
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with or what, and in life andcareer, because we all have
challenges I call them mystepping stones in life to get
me to a better place yes,exactly, they are your stepping
stones for sure.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Right, there's, um, I
love that there's there's a lot
of earth energy in this, inthis conversation today.
Um, we are, uh, we're reallyplaying with that a lot and I
think it, I love it.
The stepping stones, um, I hadthis.
I don't know why, but this isis coming to mind.
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I may have talked about this onthis podcast before, but a long
time ago I had this kind ofvisual I have.
I'm a very visual thinker andprocessor, right Like I.
I can see when people saythings.
I get these really amazing,like full on visual experiences
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of them and even beyond thevisual of it, but like the whole
story of it, and it's quitewild in my, in my mind sometimes
, and it's, it's a lot of fun.
But I had this experience whereI was, I was thinking through
something and I was like youknow, I just I want to make sure
that I have the safety net inplace and I I got this kind of
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like.
Sometimes my wisdom comes inalmost like a smack to the head,
not a, not painful in any way,but it kind of like knocks me a
little bit like whoa, okay, andI and I know it's, it's it's not
aggressive or any you knownegative way, but it is very
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much like.
Here I am, you're listening tothis, and so as soon as I had
that thought of like well, Ineed to make sure the safety net
is in place, I got this visualof standing on a like on a cliff
and seeing nothing in front ofme.
And then I I just put my footout and like, step down.
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And as soon as I stepped down,this like transparent stepping
stone showed up and I was like,oh, okay, and it was like just
following the, the visual andthe cure with curiosity, and I
took another step and anotherone showed up.
And I took another step andanother one showed up and I was
like, but where's the why isthis coming up?
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When I was thinking that Ineeded the net, and so I was
like maybe it's there, and Icould almost like see myself
like get down on my knees andstart reaching underneath these
stones to to look for it.
And it showed up and I fell offthe blocks and the net was
there.
And the wisdom that came fromthat was the net only appears
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when you need it.
Stop looking for it.
Oh yeah, but the steps alsoappear when you need them.
So, look for those instead.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Oh, that is so
beautiful.
What a beautiful story.
Oh, my goodness, I love thatvisual.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Thank you.
Yeah, it has stayed with me formany years and it's like, if
I'm looking for the net, I willfind the net, if I'm looking for
the next step, I'll find thenext step, and that's what trust
I think really is right.
It's it's having that faiththat the thing that it is that
you're looking for will be there.
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So just kind of make sure thatyou're looking for the thing
that you really want to be thereand have faith in that.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yes, yes, oh,
definitely, oh my, what a, what
a beautiful way to follow yourflow, because it goes back to
what we kind of started with bytrust yourself.
Yeah, trust yourself.
If you're looking for thestepping stone, or if you're
looking for the net, you willfind it.
Yes, you will find it.
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It's not going to be pulled outfrom under you.
You will find it.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah, absolutely, you
will find it.
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
Um, and and it is, you know,with our theme of following your
flow.
It really is, you know, I thinka lot of times, the way that
that is perceived is that theflow is something that is moving
you.
Yeah, right, but in this visual, you are guiding it.
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Right, it's meeting you whereyou are, and that is a different
way of looking at it, right,but it's knowing that the, the
flow is, um, it's more of acurrency, a movement, and that
movement is the, it, the, theflow is the movement of energy
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that is moving, and it's movingthrough you and it's not.
It is moving you with it, right?
However, it isn't somethingoutside of you, it isn't
something that is, you know,carrying, carrying you
necessarily in in a, in a way,or in a to a place that you are
not.
Um, also, you're, you'reco-creating it, right, it's not
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being created for you, it'sbeing created through you, with
you, and when you can look at itin that way, and look at it in
that way again, it comes back toit being much more fun, right?
It also is not passive at all,and the more that you play with
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it and the more that you havecuriosity about what might come
next, as well as speaking whatyou desire and then allowing
yourself to be met with thosedesires and to receive them and
continue to advance and evolvethem.
It's quite a fun game.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Oh yes, yes, it
definitely is.
Yes, when you said that to andto meet them, and when you have
those desires and to say themand the other thing I would add
and to believe them and believeon yeah, not say oh yeah, I wish
, I wish this could happen, orwhen this happens, this is
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happening to me, this is who Iam and, yeah, just just believe
in yourself.
Yeah to me, this is who I am.
And yeah, just just believe inyourself that you can accomplish
this and that you areaccomplishing it.
You are already there.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
You know, I, I, I
love that you just brought that
up and there's a little um, I doreally, I make everything a
game.
Um, I've done this ever since Iwas a little kid.
And when I make it a game, andI make it fun for myself, um,
often I will give myself littlechallenges, and in those
challenges is where it reallygets quite fun.
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Um, and you know so.
Sometimes people will say youknow, but how do I, how do I
build that belief?
Right, like, I know that's whatI need to do, but to switch the
you know, wow, I can't saythose words flip the switch, to
flip the switch from notbelieving or questioning to
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being in full faith.
That's, yes, I understandthat's like boop, it's a switch,
but that switch can be reallydifficult.
It's a, it's a switch, but thatswitch can be really difficult.
Right, simple, not always easy.
And so they asked me well, howdo I do that?
And that's when I say make itfun, make it a game, right, set
it up so that you again,whatever, whatever terminology
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you use, right, like, I tend touse the word the universe, um,
or my soul, wisdom, and I will,I will create a little game out
of something, and if what I'mtrying to uh build belief in or
build faith in is my prosperityright, then I'll say, please
show me prosperity right here,right now.
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And I'll look around and evenif I see like a penny, or if I
see a like, I say that right.
And then I turn and I look andI've got a whole jar full of
coins, right now Right.
That's prosperity.
And or even I might like lookdown and I see a receipt with
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money, you know like, written onit and it's like, oh, okay,
there's a clue, there's a hint,let me follow it.
Wonderful, and I'll say thankyou, universe, for showing me
what else can we see right, howcan we expand this?
Speaker 2 (28:48):
And it's the
gratitude that you were talking
about earlier of having thatgratitude and sharing that
gratitude and asking for moreyes, yes, and believing that it
is coming and mine is alwaysangels, I go to my angels and
say, okay, angels, I need someguidance, I need some assistance
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here.
Yeah, and there they are.
And then there they are, it'lljust come.
If I'm supposed to do it thisway, show me the sign, and there
it is, I'll see.
Redbirds, cardinals are one ofmy signs Feathers and just
hearts in the clouds, and evenhearts on the ground, heart
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shaped rock.
I mean, there's so many thingsif you just start looking.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Exactly.
Yeah, I had this really amazingexperience this weekend.
I was driving in a car withfour other ladies and we were
talking about, you know, justsome challenges and some
transitional points that theywere, that they were all moving
through, and as we were talking,I was noticing, you know, at
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one point I was like, oh, andlook, there's a rainbow.
And oh, and you know, we hitthis kind of like emotional
point.
At one point.
I was like, oh, the rain startscoming right, as, like the
tears start coming, the rainstarts coming to.
And I was like, look, I waslike nature is helping you
process this emotion and therain has shown up.
And, um, at another point, Iwas, uh, we were driving,
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driving along and I was like, isthat, what is that?
Is that a turkey?
Is it a?
And the?
You know, it was like it's aduck and I was like, huh, I
wonder what duck has, like, whatsignificance duck has in this
moment.
And and she was like, actually,like I, I know exactly what
that means.
Right, I've been feeling likeI'm like spinning my wheels,
like paddling underneath thewater, but from the surface it
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looks like, you know, things arereally smooth and calm.
And I was in.
So we were, we were playing inthe magic, right?
Even though we were talkingthrough some things that were.
They were significant decisionsand significant choices and
transitions and circumstancesthat people were moving through.
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And yet it was still verymagical, very fun, and it was
the process of observing, justnoticing what is happening
around us, right?
What is calling my attention?
They asked me at one moment.
At one time they said how areyou seeing?
How do you know which things tosee?
You know, and it was.
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I trust it.
I go into it with curiosity, Iallow myself to be open to
seeing what is calling myattention.
Sometimes it comes in the formof a word.
I just hear a word, right.
And sometimes I see something,my attention is drawn to it, or
sometimes I have a feeling it'sthose things I was talking about
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in the beginning, right?
It's why I like the acronymTIMES, because sometimes my soul
, wisdom speaks to me this way,or sometimes the universe speaks
to me this way.
And if you allow yourself to bean observer and stay in
curiosity and then acknowledgeand celebrate and be grateful
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for the information that comesthrough, the guidance that comes
through, and stay in that placeof playfulness, which I know
we're doing a summer seriesright now, and playfulness is
really the energy of summer.
It's experimentation, it'sexpansion, it's playfulness,
it's curiosity, it's creativity,all of these things when we can
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allow ourselves to play in thatenergy and be a co-creator, and
that's when we follow our flow.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yes, right.
Oh, regina, what a beautifulway to sum this up.
Oh, I just loved it.
You summed it up here in theend, just bringing everything we
talked about together andfollow your flow.
I I just want to thank you somuch, regina, for sharing your
knowledge and your wisdom withus, and your heart.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
You just shared from
the heart.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I could see it, I can
see it and it is just beautiful
.
So I want to thank you so muchfor being a part of Divas that
Cares first virtual podcastseries and want to wish you a
beautiful, magical day.
Thank you you too, joyce.
It's always a pleasure.
Oh, thank you.
And I want to thank ourlisteners for listening to this
(33:37):
beautiful podcast on Divas thatCare under Boss Babe Summer
Leveling Up in Life and Career,and with Regina Curtis Follow
your Flow.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Thanks for listening.
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