August 17, 2025 • 22 mins
Come and listen to our Host, Candace Gish, as she chats with today's guest, Dana Grant.
Dana Grant is an International Master Life and Business Coach, host of global retreats, keynote speaker, and co-founder of Cali’Flour Foods. Having been named Chico’s Entrepreneur of 2017 & 2018, Dana Grant also went on to be a 2019 Panelist of the GrowTech Fest. In 2018, she expanded her work across the globe hosting masterclasses in Paris and Amsterdam, and continues to hold intimate, life-changing retreats in Italy. She is a co-founder of the Women's Success Summit and a proud Mentor for the Chicostart and CSU Trusted Peer Mentor programs.
Her work now is expanded in helping people discover the power of using their intuition to make life-changing decisions in their day-to-day lives. From her triumphant defeat of her debilitating illness to setting unbreakable corporate sales records, she is now on a soul quest to see everyone reach their full potential. She has been seen in Forbes, New York Today, Microsoft, Medium, Miami Post, and more!
Dana Grant joins Divas that Care to share her extraordinary journey from federal lobbyist to international intuitive life coach. With refreshing candor, she reveals how life's unexpected turns—including co-founding the first cauliflower pizza crust company and weathering personal crises—shaped her mission to help others transform through heart-centered approaches.
The conversation delves into Dana's decision to launch her podcast, The Dana Grant Show, which quickly rose to the top 2% despite being just one year old. Unlike many success-focused shows, Dana's podcast intentionally explores the shadows behind achievement, creating space for guests to share their deepest struggles and most meaningful transformations. "I want to pull the curtain back and say this is where they were and this is what they're doing now," she explains, emphasizing how these authentic stories demonstrate that profound change is possible for everyone.
Dana's upcoming book, "The Truth Within the Lie," releasing August 21st, combines personal vulnerability with practical wisdom. Through sharing fourteen universal laws alongside her own life challenges—including betrayal and rebuilding from scratch—she offers readers concrete tools for transformation. The book emphasizes that true change requires quieting the ego so the soul can expand, loving every version of yourself without judgment, and reassessing where your energy flows. Her simple yet powerful question—"Does this feel like love?"—has transformed her approach to everything from health decisions to business choices.
What resonates most powerfully throughout our conversation is Dana's insight about commitment versus consistency. "Most women do not have a consistency problem. They have a commitment problem. They're consistent to the wrong commitment," she observes. This perspective invites a deeper examination of where we invest our energy and whether our dominant thoughts align with our desired outcomes. As Dana reminds us, we'll never rise above our internal worthiness level—making self-work the foundation for any lasting change. Join us for this soul-stirring conversation about vulnerability, transformation, and the power of women supporting women.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:31):
Hello everyone and welcome back to the Divas that
Care.
My name is Candice Gish.
If this is your very firsttuning in to the Divas, a huge
welcome.
We've been doing this now forabout 15 years and we're
listening to it in countriesaround the world.
We have a host that have beenwith us over the years and we're
so grateful that you havejoined us today.
I am very excited we're gonnabe welcoming a new diva to our
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family.
Her name is Dana Grant.
Welcome to the Divas that Care.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Oh, I'm so glad to be here, candice, thank you for
having me.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I'm excited to have you.
I can't wait to get to know youbetter.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Ditto, ditto.
I love our conversation so far.
I can just see a likeheartedness.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
It's just gonna be so much fun.
Dana before we kind of diveinto a few things that I have,
would you be introducingyourself to our listeners today?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Well, sure, let's see .
What information do you want toknow?
Like, I'm in California, I'm a,I'm a mom of three grown
daughters, um, I travel, doinginternational retreats.
I could leave with my work, butyou know, I think what we do is
we incorporate it into our lifeas well, and I think my work is
kind of my life as an emptynester now, and I just wrote a
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book, the Truth Within the Lie.
So I think that the work I dois I've always been an
entrepreneur and being anentrepreneur and I co-founded
the first cauliflower pizzacrust company and then through
that, I think there was deepexploration.
Through this process, I hadalready started doing personal
development.
So if you would have told me inmy 20s that I was a federal
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lobbyist, that I would now be aninternational intuitive life
coach and do VIP days all overthe world, I would say, oh, no,
no, no, I'm not interested indoing that.
But that's exactly what I do.
I help people get very clear onwhere they're going and what it
is they want and desire.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I love that and that is so cool that you said you're
the mother of three daughters Ihave four daughters myself.
And my third is going to collegein a couple weeks here and I'm
like, oh my goodness, it isamazing.
I love talking to mom, boss,moms, I guess you could say have
daughters, because it's, it'sreally neat, it's a different
experience.
I think for myself I alwaysthought honestly, if you would
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talk to my husband, I'm like Ithought we would have boys and I
don't know why Maybe it'sbecause I've always been a
sportsy kind of person but I'mlike having girls really changed
my life in a really good wayand I really started the Divas
that Care because of having mydaughters, Because I wanted them
to be inspired by women likeyourself that could do anything
and thank you so much for youknow, just kind of briefly,
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sharing your story there.
One of the things that we'regoing to be talking about today
is that you are an extraordinarypodcaster also, and I don't get
the opportunity to interviewother podcasters, so tell me,
why did you decide to get intothat?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
You know that was another heart-centered decision.
I think that when I startedidentifying how the ego shows up
in my life I mean, if we're anygood life coach out there I
like to think of it more as alife mentor, not life coach.
But I had to look at where theego was showing up and
protecting me in my life andthis heart-centered stories were
protected.
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I wasn't sharing them, thingsthat could be deeply
transformational for people toknow about my own life.
They look at it and they think,oh, what a beautiful, blessed
life.
And then my life epically blewup and fell apart.
You know a long-term marriageand and there was crisis after
crisis that I didn't share andthe ego protected me from that.
So I think the healing and theheart center conversations are
what made me dive in to thepodcasting.
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And that's what they are.
They're heart centeredentrepreneurships.
I'm looking, I'm pulling thecurtain back and what makes
people show up and do what theydo?
And I want to know where theystarted.
And all, all the shattered, allthe heartbreak in between,
because I don't think we needanother podcast show that just
shows the gloss and the glitzand how great life is.
I want to pull it back and saythis is where they were and this
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is what they're doing now, andthis is a transformation that
can work for you too.
It's possible.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
It is possible.
Oh my goodness, wonderful words.
So tell us a little bit aboutsome of the podcasts that you do
.
You say you dive right intothings, so kind of explain a
little bit about that to us.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Well, I taped one this morning, so let's just put
him on the hot seat.
It was Dr Rob Kelly.
He'll be released in the nextcouple of months.
He, when I came across him, hewas an introduction from a PR
team and I read his story and Isaid this just can't be.
And you know so I read hisstory and it was so moving.
But to hear him tell it, I meanwe are.
(05:05):
I think it was an hour tapingdue to the fact we cried so much
throughout it and this this isnot uncommon.
You know, in this process Ilook.
So he was, you know, a backupperson, a music Oxford living in
Manchester, and for EricClapton, you know huge names,
and for Eric Clapton, you knowhuge names.
And then alcoholism, which hestarted at nine.
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He took him to the streets.
He was living on the streets.
I mean he bottomed out at alevel that most of us can't even
imagine and he now is running afacility and has been sober for
two decades in Dallas and helpspeople on neuroplasticity.
(05:49):
He really is looking atchanging the relationship to
alcoholism and he took the shit.
It was a beautiful conversation,so we actually went through his
story first.
You know how he recovered, whatthat looked like his
relationship to, I mean, thebottom falling out and then the
bottom falling out underneaththat and then his recovery back
and how he paid it forward andit was nothing short of a
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miracle, and I love to showpeople that anything is possible
.
So usually when I look atstories that are coming on the
podcast show, I want a life likemy life.
Most people would not expect meto come from where I came from,
go through the ebbs and flowsand the losses and the betrayals
, and my book is about that theTruth Within the Lie.
The subconscious wants toprotect us and the ego and tells
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us these stories.
And the truth is that there's aversion of us that hasn't shown
up yet and that can be veryfrightening.
Just the newness of that can befrightening.
So I think that that's what thepodcast show really is about.
It is about evolution andpeople doing great things in the
world, but how they got there.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, and that they're not alone.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yeah, precisely, and pulling the shame out of it.
You know, and even the wordaddiction in this podcast, you
know we we broke that down andtalked about.
You know, even the wordaddiction will scare people and
the shame attached to it.
So I just want to remove theshame and let everyone know that
these heart centerconversations are about love and
compassion and that if we canchange one life, I feel like my
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job is done.
And you know, the podcaststarted this year.
You've been on for 15 years.
I started it this year just likewow, I was just ready to go.
I, seven years ago, I said Iwas going to do it.
I said I was going to do it.
I said I was going to write abook and it's taken all of this
time when I, when I was ready, Iwas ready and now I'm in the
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top 2% of pod and I thought howdid that happen?
You know, I really didn't seekout anything, with the exception
of calling in people that Ireally wanted to hear their
story, if they were willing toshare it.
And that's my first question Isthere anything off limits?
Can we go into the depths ofwhere you were and the recovery?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I love that.
That's exactly what we'reneeding.
A podcast like yours is whatthe world needs right now.
They need to hear these stories, they need to know that they're
not alone, and so, for ourlisteners, the podcast name is
the Dana Grant Show.
So you guys got to go checkthat out and we will be posting
your information, dan, just sothat you know, because I really
want people to go check out yourpodcast.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Oh, thank you, Candice, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
So you mentioned that you started this a year.
You've been doing this a yearnow, which is absolutely
fantastic, and I can't wait toreally share this with our tribe
of divas out there.
How long have you been doingthe life coaching, the speaking,
the workshops and stuff?
But you've been doing all that,so it kind of amalgamated into
this podcast.
But how long were you doing allthe other stuff?
Speaker 3 (08:42):
You know it started about.
If I look at about seven, eightyears ago, I started Dana Grant
coaching.
Well, with Cali, flower Foodswas the cauliflower pizza crust
company and from there I startedCali Soul Coaching.
So I think I struggled forabout a year before I took my
name and really just let go ofthe identity of creating that
company, let go of the idea ofbeing a top lobbyist, let go of
the success that I.
I had to start over like squareone and I rebuilt it.
(09:04):
You know I in fact Danagrantcom wasn't even available.
I think I had to do the Danagrantcom which we're still
merging and I finally did by myname, but which was really great
but yeah about seven years nowand it just evolved.
It went very quickly.
I think that my willingness tobe vulnerable and new and I
think a lot of people don't wantto be new, don't want to be
vulnerable, and you know I amnow.
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I have grown daughters that are37, 35, 27.
And I think I'm at an age nowwhere I care less about being
new, about what people think,and I'm more, very committed to
this process of being of serviceand letting people know that
you're not alone.
We are all connected.
We all have, you know, piecesof us that have been shattered
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and broken and and I think it'sit's women coming together.
You know, I believe in womensupporting women and when women
say they support women, Idefinitely want to see the
actions not just womensupporting women, but how do you
support women?
I'm a big believer that we allare interconnected and we can
all help each other on multiplelevels.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I couldn't agree with you more right there.
I applaud you with saying thatbecause it is a challenge.
You know some people and Ipeople and I I honestly think
there's been an evolution,there's been a growth, there's
been this, almost this awakeningthat's happening on a global
scale, where women are startingto really look at themselves not
as competition but as partnersand collaborators in a greater
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good, and I love it when youhave podcasts like yours that
are really, you know, showcasingthat you know, know it's, you
know there couldn't be anybigger truth than said right
there.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Women are waking up, and they are.
I've had so many women reachout and say, hey, how can I
support your book, how can Igenuinely help you?
And you know, I'm sometimestaken back because sometimes we
feel like the lone ranger outthere.
We're like I've got to do allthis.
Well, we don't, but we do haveto ask for help, and I think
that it's important.
I think that's thevulnerability part.
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We don't like to ask for helpbecause, as women, we are the
caretakers, we are the doers, weare the organizers, we are the
leaders.
And I often say that moneyfollows authority.
If you are not the authority inyour business or your life,
there isn't anything that'sgoing to follow you.
You're going to be tripping allover the place, and so is the
rest of your life, and so we'rethe jack of all trades?
(11:25):
Yeah, absolutely.
We wear a lot of hats and wehave to lead in every one of
those areas.
But I have learned the more wecan flow and not push and the
more we could ask for help andthe more vulnerability we can
share.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
There's so much power in that.
I love hearing that.
Actually, that's been somethingthat I've really struggled with
over the years is doing that.
You know, when we started thepodcast, it was about that.
It was finding women, finding atribe, because we all felt like
we were alone and we didn'tknow what to do.
And it's kind of evolved fromthere to do.
And it's kind of evolved fromthere.
(12:01):
But seeing you, it's just itbrings a smile to my face
because it's like this is whatI've always envisioned is more
women like yourself out thereand really inspiring so many
people.
It's like you, we got this.
We got this together.
We can do this.
Let's work together, let'ssupport one another.
And that kind of leads me intoyour book, because this book is
going to change people's livesand I want you, if you don't
(12:25):
mind, sharing a little bit aboutthis book and when it's coming
out and how our tribe cansupport you in that.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Oh, thank you, candice.
Well, you know, I did not thinkit would be called the Truth
Within the Lie.
The book evolved as well it's,so it was such a big surprise
when I finished it.
It wasn't at all what I hadoriginally thought I was going
to write, but it's exactly whatI needed to write, and I think
that we don't want to kill theego, we want to just quiet it
down so the soul can expand.
(12:49):
I mean our heart energy.
Our soul doesn't even recognizethe attack.
It's the ego that does so.
You know, it's about receivingthe ebb and flow of that.
It's also about using a lot ofmodalities in healing.
I give 14 universal laws that Istart with, but I start with a
story in my life, 14 pretty deepstories of my life and how I
healed.
And I don't stop with just auniversal law that they can
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utilize, but I break it down onwhat they can do and I give a
lot of information on how theydo it, how they can do it, and
because I think that we all needmore information, um, from
multiple sources.
It's not one and done.
I like to keep it simple.
I think it's.
There's so much complicationout there and I also.
I'm a huge believer in God.
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I'm a huge, I have a lot offaith, but I also have no
judgment and I think that I saythat with complete conviction
that I had to first love everyversion of myself and I talk
about this in the book and notjudge and shame versions of
myself.
That got me here.
You know, 60 years of gettinghere, I had to go back and love
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every version of me and begrateful.
So the gratitude, the simplepractices that we could do and
implement every single day,there's something to be grateful
for every day and we hear this,but we don't often practice it.
We're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, once this big problem issolved, I will then fix that.
No, how about we just pivot andjust stop, stay in the present
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moment, drop in and just tell meone thing you can be grateful
for right now Boom, shiftbecause you cannot be in the
struggle and in gratitude at thesame time.
So I give a lot of informationon that and I keep it simple and
I go deep.
And when does your book come out?
It comes out August 21st.
Yep, the publishing house has alaunch date of the 21st and I
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suppose how everyone can supportme is we have a link that will
start.
I probably shouldn't even talkabout this, but it because
they're like they startmarketing on the 10th.
It's, it's the publishing housestarts on the 10th and they
start releasing the.
There won't be a pre-sale,there'll be a a big, you know
like, book launching party onthe 21st and I would love it if
everyone had a link and theycould.
They could show up for the booklaunching party on the 21st and
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I would love it if everyone hada link and they could show up
for the book launching party.
I would love to have oneincredible party.
We're going to have giveaways.
We're going to have signedbooks.
We're going to have free books.
I'm going to be giving awaywhich I don't do one-on-one
coaching, like one-offs, it ispackages.
I will be giving away, you knowone, power sessions and
readings which, being born andintuitive we haven't talked
about that being born andintuitive and being in this
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business space.
It's given me this insight togo ahead and see things and
being a seer, and that's exactlywhat I am.
I come back, I dump the piecesout and I'm I can ask better
questions and navigate.
So I don't do this the 90minute sessions anymore of
readings.
So I don't do the 90-minutesessions anymore of readings
because I don't really want togive people the answers, but I
want to ask better questions.
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So we are going to be offeringthat, which is the first time in
a long time that that'savailable, and I'm so excited.
I'm so excited to pay itforward and reach as many people
as I can and I'm hoping thatthis book, that I can show them
that through my vulnerabilityand things I share, are I.
It was difficult, it wasdifficult to share.
I mean, there was, there weremany days of tears of like I
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can't do this, and I did.
You know, I've been betrayed onmultiple levels.
I had a.
I was married to a physicianwho lost his license and had
sexual assault charges.
I have been through the gamut.
There isn't any area of thefire that I have not walked and
not come out and built thisempire, and I didn't do it alone
.
There were women that walkedalongside of me, that supported
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me, just like you.
How can we support you?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yes, Will you have the link for that that we can
share with our listeners at alater date?
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Absolutely, absolutely.
We'll get that to you.
We will definitely share withall of you guys that are
listening.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Absolutely, we'll get that too, we'll definitely
share with all of you guys thatare listening today.
I'll post it on the socialmedia and then I'll be posting
it later on as soon as I get itfrom Dana.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Oh my gosh, this has been so much fun.
Dana, I know that our podcastisn't as long as I'd like it to
be, because there's a lot oftopics that I'd like to dive
into a little bit deeper, butone of the things I do want to
ask you today, before we kind ofend our program, is do you have
any tips and tools for maybesome of our listeners today?
This could be anything frombusiness-related,
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personal-related.
Our listeners a lot of the timeare looking for motivation to
improve their lives in some wayor to help others.
Could you support us in that,or could you give us some
information and help us through?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
that today.
Well, you know I usually gointuitively what dropped in.
And what dropped in is mostwomen do not have, you know, a
consistency problem.
They have a commitment problem.
They're consistent to the wrongcommitment.
So reevaluate your commitmentin your life, really write it
out and see what it is.
You know, I look at you, knowyour core values and where,
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where the fear is, becauseusually that terror barrier in
your life is going to pivot youback to the stories in your life
and you're going to want adifferent outcome from the same
story.
It's just not going to work.
And you know, if we look atmoney, and everybody wants to
build a business and no matterwhat they come to me for, it's
always usually about sometimesthey'll say more joy, more, more
happiness, but it really isabout more money.
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And you know, we make moneyfrom our strengths and you spend
money from your values.
And you know, knowing theselittle bits of information, we
can take it in and we can assessit.
And I love to be a greatassessor of the energy in our
life where we're showing up whatare we giving our energy to.
Because our most dominantthought is the most powerful
thought, because our life willfollow our thought process and
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our actions and I like to putthe lens in front of it and ask
myself this every day Does thisfeel like love?
I lost a lot of weight thisthis past two years and you know
I gained it through the traumaand I and then I lost it and it
wasn't.
I want to be skinny again.
That just didn't work anymore.
But getting healthy, and Iasked a different question every
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time I went to eat somethingdoes this feel like love?
And it seemed to work, and itseems to work for a lot of
people.
So I think we have to reassessour relationship with self.
It's never about the external,it is always about the internal.
It's an inside job and if Icould leave them with that that
just assess where yourcommitments are, where your
loyalty packs are in your life,where are your non-negotiables?
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Where is it that you aredepleted?
Are you even on the playingboard?
Because oftentimes, as wetalked about, women tend to put
themselves last and I would saythat is a struggle for them,
because we're never gonna riseabove.
I don't care what they build,what blueprint they go to
workshop they go to with a newblueprint, they're never gonna
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rise above their worthinesslevel of what they think they're
capable of.
So we want to raise that bar,we want to expand that energy,
and the ego isn't going to dothat, but the heart energy
certainly is.
So it is for me very heartcentered work.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Oh, Dana, you and I are definitely gonna have
another conversation onexpanding on that.
That was beautiful.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Thank you so much.
Oh, thank you, candice, forhaving me.
I love your energy.
I love, I love this connection.
I can see that we're we'regoing to be soul sisters for a
long time to come.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
You know what I was thinking?
The same thing.
This was so much fun and Ican't wait to do more things
with you.
We're going to collaborate anddo some great things, guys.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Oh, and I'm already smiling, like my cheeks hurt
because I'm smiling, you know,yeah, you can't see us, but I'm
smiling, yeah you're smiling andso am I.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Oh my gosh, I think the entire program.
I smiled the entire time.
You know I love conversationslike this, dana.
To be honest, this waswonderful.
I know that the change makersand the divas that are out there
are really going to appreciateyou today.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Oh well, I hope so.
I hope they're nodding theirhead and it resonates with them,
and and they're willing to makeone change.
You know, I often say it's justone degree, that's it, that's
all you have to do is one degree, not not?
We get overwhelmed as womenthat we have to do it, all these
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quantum leaps and we see allthat disconnect from the world
and just do one thing that movesthat needle forward.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Oh my gosh, and that's something that I say here
on the program.
That's so funny.
You said that my biggest thingis that work one percent better
each day.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
I love that, so see here you know, and canvas.
We're going to take it one stepfurther and I I know we're going
over time, but if we are in aplane, I want people, people to
visualize this.
I'm on a plane and I am onedegree off.
That means I am 360 miles offfrom my trajectory.
I want to land on this Island.
I am in a completely differentpart of the world.
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360 miles, that's just onedegree.
I want them to think aboutwhere they're off one degree in
their life.
You know just my gosh there.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yeah, yep, that is so powerful.
You know what we're going to beusing this analogy, I think, in
our fall podcast that we dotogether.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Excellent, I love it.
I love it.
I'm all in.
I told you I'm all in.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
And I just want to do a big shout out to all our
amazing listeners out there.
You know, make sure that youcheck out Dana Grant's
information.
I'm going to be posting iteverywhere, all over social
media.
I think it's really importantto go check her out and to also
support her in her new book.
I think it's going to bewonderful.
I can't wait to read it.
I want to make sure, also, thatyou check out all of our other
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hosts, our diva guests.
They have so many inspiringthings, guys.
We always want to collaborateand work with these amazing
individuals that come on ourpodcast because they're really
sharing their hearts, and I'mall about collaborating and
supporting so many people outthere.
So, again, thank you to myamazing guest, dana, thank you
to all of our amazing listeners,and remember to do something
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kind today, until next time,everyone.
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after the show.
Right now, though, stay tunedfor another jolt of inspiration.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Hello everyone and welcome back to the Divas that
Care.
My name is Candice Gish.
If this is your very firsttuning in to the Divas, a huge
welcome.
We've been doing this now forabout 15 years and we're
listening to it in countriesaround the world.
We have a host that have beenwith us over the years and we're
so grateful that you havejoined us today.
I am very excited we're gonnabe welcoming a new diva to our
(00:54):
family.
Her name is Dana Grant.
Welcome to the Divas that Care.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Oh, I'm so glad to be here, candice, thank you for
having me.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I'm excited to have you.
I can't wait to get to know youbetter.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Ditto, ditto.
I love our conversation so far.
I can just see a likeheartedness.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
It's just gonna be so much fun.
Dana before we kind of diveinto a few things that I have,
would you be introducingyourself to our listeners today?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Well, sure, let's see .
What information do you want toknow?
Like, I'm in California, I'm a,I'm a mom of three grown
daughters, um, I travel, doinginternational retreats.
I could leave with my work, butyou know, I think what we do is
we incorporate it into our lifeas well, and I think my work is
kind of my life as an emptynester now, and I just wrote a
(01:42):
book, the Truth Within the Lie.
So I think that the work I dois I've always been an
entrepreneur and being anentrepreneur and I co-founded
the first cauliflower pizzacrust company and then through
that, I think there was deepexploration.
Through this process, I hadalready started doing personal
development.
So if you would have told me inmy 20s that I was a federal
(02:04):
lobbyist, that I would now be aninternational intuitive life
coach and do VIP days all overthe world, I would say, oh, no,
no, no, I'm not interested indoing that.
But that's exactly what I do.
I help people get very clear onwhere they're going and what it
is they want and desire.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I love that and that is so cool that you said you're
the mother of three daughters Ihave four daughters myself.
And my third is going to collegein a couple weeks here and I'm
like, oh my goodness, it isamazing.
I love talking to mom, boss,moms, I guess you could say have
daughters, because it's, it'sreally neat, it's a different
experience.
I think for myself I alwaysthought honestly, if you would
(02:46):
talk to my husband, I'm like Ithought we would have boys and I
don't know why Maybe it'sbecause I've always been a
sportsy kind of person but I'mlike having girls really changed
my life in a really good wayand I really started the Divas
that Care because of having mydaughters, Because I wanted them
to be inspired by women likeyourself that could do anything
and thank you so much for youknow, just kind of briefly,
(03:08):
sharing your story there.
One of the things that we'regoing to be talking about today
is that you are an extraordinarypodcaster also, and I don't get
the opportunity to interviewother podcasters, so tell me,
why did you decide to get intothat?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
You know that was another heart-centered decision.
I think that when I startedidentifying how the ego shows up
in my life I mean, if we're anygood life coach out there I
like to think of it more as alife mentor, not life coach.
But I had to look at where theego was showing up and
protecting me in my life andthis heart-centered stories were
protected.
(03:43):
I wasn't sharing them, thingsthat could be deeply
transformational for people toknow about my own life.
They look at it and they think,oh, what a beautiful, blessed
life.
And then my life epically blewup and fell apart.
You know a long-term marriageand and there was crisis after
crisis that I didn't share andthe ego protected me from that.
So I think the healing and theheart center conversations are
what made me dive in to thepodcasting.
(04:05):
And that's what they are.
They're heart centeredentrepreneurships.
I'm looking, I'm pulling thecurtain back and what makes
people show up and do what theydo?
And I want to know where theystarted.
And all, all the shattered, allthe heartbreak in between,
because I don't think we needanother podcast show that just
shows the gloss and the glitzand how great life is.
I want to pull it back and saythis is where they were and this
(04:27):
is what they're doing now, andthis is a transformation that
can work for you too.
It's possible.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
It is possible.
Oh my goodness, wonderful words.
So tell us a little bit aboutsome of the podcasts that you do
.
You say you dive right intothings, so kind of explain a
little bit about that to us.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Well, I taped one this morning, so let's just put
him on the hot seat.
It was Dr Rob Kelly.
He'll be released in the nextcouple of months.
He, when I came across him, hewas an introduction from a PR
team and I read his story and Isaid this just can't be.
And you know so I read hisstory and it was so moving.
But to hear him tell it, I meanwe are.
(05:05):
I think it was an hour tapingdue to the fact we cried so much
throughout it and this this isnot uncommon.
You know, in this process Ilook.
So he was, you know, a backupperson, a music Oxford living in
Manchester, and for EricClapton, you know huge names,
and for Eric Clapton, you knowhuge names.
And then alcoholism, which hestarted at nine.
(05:28):
He took him to the streets.
He was living on the streets.
I mean he bottomed out at alevel that most of us can't even
imagine and he now is running afacility and has been sober for
two decades in Dallas and helpspeople on neuroplasticity.
(05:49):
He really is looking atchanging the relationship to
alcoholism and he took the shit.
It was a beautiful conversation,so we actually went through his
story first.
You know how he recovered, whatthat looked like his
relationship to, I mean, thebottom falling out and then the
bottom falling out underneaththat and then his recovery back
and how he paid it forward andit was nothing short of a
(06:10):
miracle, and I love to showpeople that anything is possible
.
So usually when I look atstories that are coming on the
podcast show, I want a life likemy life.
Most people would not expect meto come from where I came from,
go through the ebbs and flowsand the losses and the betrayals
, and my book is about that theTruth Within the Lie.
The subconscious wants toprotect us and the ego and tells
(06:32):
us these stories.
And the truth is that there's aversion of us that hasn't shown
up yet and that can be veryfrightening.
Just the newness of that can befrightening.
So I think that that's what thepodcast show really is about.
It is about evolution andpeople doing great things in the
world, but how they got there.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, and that they're not alone.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yeah, precisely, and pulling the shame out of it.
You know, and even the wordaddiction in this podcast, you
know we we broke that down andtalked about.
You know, even the wordaddiction will scare people and
the shame attached to it.
So I just want to remove theshame and let everyone know that
these heart centerconversations are about love and
compassion and that if we canchange one life, I feel like my
(07:14):
job is done.
And you know, the podcaststarted this year.
You've been on for 15 years.
I started it this year just likewow, I was just ready to go.
I, seven years ago, I said Iwas going to do it.
I said I was going to do it.
I said I was going to write abook and it's taken all of this
time when I, when I was ready, Iwas ready and now I'm in the
(07:35):
top 2% of pod and I thought howdid that happen?
You know, I really didn't seekout anything, with the exception
of calling in people that Ireally wanted to hear their
story, if they were willing toshare it.
And that's my first question Isthere anything off limits?
Can we go into the depths ofwhere you were and the recovery?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I love that.
That's exactly what we'reneeding.
A podcast like yours is whatthe world needs right now.
They need to hear these stories, they need to know that they're
not alone, and so, for ourlisteners, the podcast name is
the Dana Grant Show.
So you guys got to go checkthat out and we will be posting
your information, dan, just sothat you know, because I really
want people to go check out yourpodcast.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Oh, thank you, Candice, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
So you mentioned that you started this a year.
You've been doing this a yearnow, which is absolutely
fantastic, and I can't wait toreally share this with our tribe
of divas out there.
How long have you been doingthe life coaching, the speaking,
the workshops and stuff?
But you've been doing all that,so it kind of amalgamated into
this podcast.
But how long were you doing allthe other stuff?
Speaker 3 (08:42):
You know it started about.
If I look at about seven, eightyears ago, I started Dana Grant
coaching.
Well, with Cali, flower Foodswas the cauliflower pizza crust
company and from there I startedCali Soul Coaching.
So I think I struggled forabout a year before I took my
name and really just let go ofthe identity of creating that
company, let go of the idea ofbeing a top lobbyist, let go of
the success that I.
I had to start over like squareone and I rebuilt it.
(09:04):
You know I in fact Danagrantcom wasn't even available.
I think I had to do the Danagrantcom which we're still
merging and I finally did by myname, but which was really great
but yeah about seven years nowand it just evolved.
It went very quickly.
I think that my willingness tobe vulnerable and new and I
think a lot of people don't wantto be new, don't want to be
vulnerable, and you know I amnow.
(09:25):
I have grown daughters that are37, 35, 27.
And I think I'm at an age nowwhere I care less about being
new, about what people think,and I'm more, very committed to
this process of being of serviceand letting people know that
you're not alone.
We are all connected.
We all have, you know, piecesof us that have been shattered
(09:48):
and broken and and I think it'sit's women coming together.
You know, I believe in womensupporting women and when women
say they support women, Idefinitely want to see the
actions not just womensupporting women, but how do you
support women?
I'm a big believer that we allare interconnected and we can
all help each other on multiplelevels.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I couldn't agree with you more right there.
I applaud you with saying thatbecause it is a challenge.
You know some people and Ipeople and I I honestly think
there's been an evolution,there's been a growth, there's
been this, almost this awakeningthat's happening on a global
scale, where women are startingto really look at themselves not
as competition but as partnersand collaborators in a greater
(10:33):
good, and I love it when youhave podcasts like yours that
are really, you know, showcasingthat you know, know it's, you
know there couldn't be anybigger truth than said right
there.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Women are waking up, and they are.
I've had so many women reachout and say, hey, how can I
support your book, how can Igenuinely help you?
And you know, I'm sometimestaken back because sometimes we
feel like the lone ranger outthere.
We're like I've got to do allthis.
Well, we don't, but we do haveto ask for help, and I think
that it's important.
I think that's thevulnerability part.
(11:05):
We don't like to ask for helpbecause, as women, we are the
caretakers, we are the doers, weare the organizers, we are the
leaders.
And I often say that moneyfollows authority.
If you are not the authority inyour business or your life,
there isn't anything that'sgoing to follow you.
You're going to be tripping allover the place, and so is the
rest of your life, and so we'rethe jack of all trades?
(11:25):
Yeah, absolutely.
We wear a lot of hats and wehave to lead in every one of
those areas.
But I have learned the more wecan flow and not push and the
more we could ask for help andthe more vulnerability we can
share.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
There's so much power in that.
I love hearing that.
Actually, that's been somethingthat I've really struggled with
over the years is doing that.
You know, when we started thepodcast, it was about that.
It was finding women, finding atribe, because we all felt like
we were alone and we didn'tknow what to do.
And it's kind of evolved fromthere to do.
And it's kind of evolved fromthere.
(12:01):
But seeing you, it's just itbrings a smile to my face
because it's like this is whatI've always envisioned is more
women like yourself out thereand really inspiring so many
people.
It's like you, we got this.
We got this together.
We can do this.
Let's work together, let'ssupport one another.
And that kind of leads me intoyour book, because this book is
going to change people's livesand I want you, if you don't
(12:25):
mind, sharing a little bit aboutthis book and when it's coming
out and how our tribe cansupport you in that.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Oh, thank you, candice.
Well, you know, I did not thinkit would be called the Truth
Within the Lie.
The book evolved as well it's,so it was such a big surprise
when I finished it.
It wasn't at all what I hadoriginally thought I was going
to write, but it's exactly whatI needed to write, and I think
that we don't want to kill theego, we want to just quiet it
down so the soul can expand.
(12:49):
I mean our heart energy.
Our soul doesn't even recognizethe attack.
It's the ego that does so.
You know, it's about receivingthe ebb and flow of that.
It's also about using a lot ofmodalities in healing.
I give 14 universal laws that Istart with, but I start with a
story in my life, 14 pretty deepstories of my life and how I
healed.
And I don't stop with just auniversal law that they can
(13:13):
utilize, but I break it down onwhat they can do and I give a
lot of information on how theydo it, how they can do it, and
because I think that we all needmore information, um, from
multiple sources.
It's not one and done.
I like to keep it simple.
I think it's.
There's so much complicationout there and I also.
I'm a huge believer in God.
(13:33):
I'm a huge, I have a lot offaith, but I also have no
judgment and I think that I saythat with complete conviction
that I had to first love everyversion of myself and I talk
about this in the book and notjudge and shame versions of
myself.
That got me here.
You know, 60 years of gettinghere, I had to go back and love
(13:55):
every version of me and begrateful.
So the gratitude, the simplepractices that we could do and
implement every single day,there's something to be grateful
for every day and we hear this,but we don't often practice it.
We're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, once this big problem issolved, I will then fix that.
No, how about we just pivot andjust stop, stay in the present
(14:17):
moment, drop in and just tell meone thing you can be grateful
for right now Boom, shiftbecause you cannot be in the
struggle and in gratitude at thesame time.
So I give a lot of informationon that and I keep it simple and
I go deep.
And when does your book come out?
It comes out August 21st.
Yep, the publishing house has alaunch date of the 21st and I
(14:39):
suppose how everyone can supportme is we have a link that will
start.
I probably shouldn't even talkabout this, but it because
they're like they startmarketing on the 10th.
It's, it's the publishing housestarts on the 10th and they
start releasing the.
There won't be a pre-sale,there'll be a a big, you know
like, book launching party onthe 21st and I would love it if
everyone had a link and theycould.
They could show up for the booklaunching party on the 21st and
(15:01):
I would love it if everyone hada link and they could show up
for the book launching party.
I would love to have oneincredible party.
We're going to have giveaways.
We're going to have signedbooks.
We're going to have free books.
I'm going to be giving awaywhich I don't do one-on-one
coaching, like one-offs, it ispackages.
I will be giving away, you knowone, power sessions and
readings which, being born andintuitive we haven't talked
about that being born andintuitive and being in this
(15:23):
business space.
It's given me this insight togo ahead and see things and
being a seer, and that's exactlywhat I am.
I come back, I dump the piecesout and I'm I can ask better
questions and navigate.
So I don't do this the 90minute sessions anymore of
readings.
So I don't do the 90-minutesessions anymore of readings
because I don't really want togive people the answers, but I
want to ask better questions.
(15:44):
So we are going to be offeringthat, which is the first time in
a long time that that'savailable, and I'm so excited.
I'm so excited to pay itforward and reach as many people
as I can and I'm hoping thatthis book, that I can show them
that through my vulnerabilityand things I share, are I.
It was difficult, it wasdifficult to share.
I mean, there was, there weremany days of tears of like I
(16:07):
can't do this, and I did.
You know, I've been betrayed onmultiple levels.
I had a.
I was married to a physicianwho lost his license and had
sexual assault charges.
I have been through the gamut.
There isn't any area of thefire that I have not walked and
not come out and built thisempire, and I didn't do it alone
.
There were women that walkedalongside of me, that supported
(16:29):
me, just like you.
How can we support you?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yes, Will you have the link for that that we can
share with our listeners at alater date?
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Absolutely, absolutely.
We'll get that to you.
We will definitely share withall of you guys that are
listening.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Absolutely, we'll get that too, we'll definitely
share with all of you guys thatare listening today.
I'll post it on the socialmedia and then I'll be posting
it later on as soon as I get itfrom Dana.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Oh my gosh, this has been so much fun.
Dana, I know that our podcastisn't as long as I'd like it to
be, because there's a lot oftopics that I'd like to dive
into a little bit deeper, butone of the things I do want to
ask you today, before we kind ofend our program, is do you have
any tips and tools for maybesome of our listeners today?
This could be anything frombusiness-related,
(17:11):
personal-related.
Our listeners a lot of the timeare looking for motivation to
improve their lives in some wayor to help others.
Could you support us in that,or could you give us some
information and help us through?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
that today.
Well, you know I usually gointuitively what dropped in.
And what dropped in is mostwomen do not have, you know, a
consistency problem.
They have a commitment problem.
They're consistent to the wrongcommitment.
So reevaluate your commitmentin your life, really write it
out and see what it is.
You know, I look at you, knowyour core values and where,
(17:47):
where the fear is, becauseusually that terror barrier in
your life is going to pivot youback to the stories in your life
and you're going to want adifferent outcome from the same
story.
It's just not going to work.
And you know, if we look atmoney, and everybody wants to
build a business and no matterwhat they come to me for, it's
always usually about sometimesthey'll say more joy, more, more
happiness, but it really isabout more money.
(18:08):
And you know, we make moneyfrom our strengths and you spend
money from your values.
And you know, knowing theselittle bits of information, we
can take it in and we can assessit.
And I love to be a greatassessor of the energy in our
life where we're showing up whatare we giving our energy to.
Because our most dominantthought is the most powerful
thought, because our life willfollow our thought process and
(18:32):
our actions and I like to putthe lens in front of it and ask
myself this every day Does thisfeel like love?
I lost a lot of weight thisthis past two years and you know
I gained it through the traumaand I and then I lost it and it
wasn't.
I want to be skinny again.
That just didn't work anymore.
But getting healthy, and Iasked a different question every
(18:53):
time I went to eat somethingdoes this feel like love?
And it seemed to work, and itseems to work for a lot of
people.
So I think we have to reassessour relationship with self.
It's never about the external,it is always about the internal.
It's an inside job and if Icould leave them with that that
just assess where yourcommitments are, where your
loyalty packs are in your life,where are your non-negotiables?
(19:15):
Where is it that you aredepleted?
Are you even on the playingboard?
Because oftentimes, as wetalked about, women tend to put
themselves last and I would saythat is a struggle for them,
because we're never gonna riseabove.
I don't care what they build,what blueprint they go to
workshop they go to with a newblueprint, they're never gonna
(19:36):
rise above their worthinesslevel of what they think they're
capable of.
So we want to raise that bar,we want to expand that energy,
and the ego isn't going to dothat, but the heart energy
certainly is.
So it is for me very heartcentered work.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Oh, Dana, you and I are definitely gonna have
another conversation onexpanding on that.
That was beautiful.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Thank you so much.
Oh, thank you, candice, forhaving me.
I love your energy.
I love, I love this connection.
I can see that we're we'regoing to be soul sisters for a
long time to come.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
You know what I was thinking?
The same thing.
This was so much fun and Ican't wait to do more things
with you.
We're going to collaborate anddo some great things, guys.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Oh, and I'm already smiling, like my cheeks hurt
because I'm smiling, you know,yeah, you can't see us, but I'm
smiling, yeah you're smiling andso am I.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Oh my gosh, I think the entire program.
I smiled the entire time.
You know I love conversationslike this, dana.
To be honest, this waswonderful.
I know that the change makersand the divas that are out there
are really going to appreciateyou today.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Oh well, I hope so.
I hope they're nodding theirhead and it resonates with them,
and and they're willing to makeone change.
You know, I often say it's justone degree, that's it, that's
all you have to do is one degree, not not?
We get overwhelmed as womenthat we have to do it, all these
(20:59):
quantum leaps and we see allthat disconnect from the world
and just do one thing that movesthat needle forward.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Oh my gosh, and that's something that I say here
on the program.
That's so funny.
You said that my biggest thingis that work one percent better
each day.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
I love that, so see here you know, and canvas.
We're going to take it one stepfurther and I I know we're going
over time, but if we are in aplane, I want people, people to
visualize this.
I'm on a plane and I am onedegree off.
That means I am 360 miles offfrom my trajectory.
I want to land on this Island.
I am in a completely differentpart of the world.
(21:29):
360 miles, that's just onedegree.
I want them to think aboutwhere they're off one degree in
their life.
You know just my gosh there.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yeah, yep, that is so powerful.
You know what we're going to beusing this analogy, I think, in
our fall podcast that we dotogether.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Excellent, I love it.
I love it.
I'm all in.
I told you I'm all in.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
And I just want to do a big shout out to all our
amazing listeners out there.
You know, make sure that youcheck out Dana Grant's
information.
I'm going to be posting iteverywhere, all over social
media.
I think it's really importantto go check her out and to also
support her in her new book.
I think it's going to bewonderful.
I can't wait to read it.
I want to make sure, also, thatyou check out all of our other
(22:13):
hosts, our diva guests.
They have so many inspiringthings, guys.
We always want to collaborateand work with these amazing
individuals that come on ourpodcast because they're really
sharing their hearts, and I'mall about collaborating and
supporting so many people outthere.
So, again, thank you to myamazing guest, dana, thank you
to all of our amazing listeners,and remember to do something
(22:34):
kind today, until next time,everyone.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
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