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Amastay, and welcome
to the Divas That Care Network.
I'm your host, Gia Raquel Rose,owner of Airs Above Yoga, and
you are listening to Above theGround Podcast.
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into its 15th year and islistened to in over 13
countries.
I'd like to personally thank youfor giving me the gift of your
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time.
As always, it is my honor tohold space with you.
And today, um, insofar as thenutrition episode is concerned,
I'm going to take this moment totalk a little bit about
something that is nutritionadjacent.
I'm going to go with nutritionadjacent for it.
Um and I haven't reallydiscussed it super like not too
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much, not too much in detail.
Um, it has been certainly a abig a big aspect to navigate in
my life in the past year plus.
Um, but certainly I, you know,don't want to get too soapboxy
as I preempt before I getsoapboxy.
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Um, but essentially I've spokena lot about my um journey with
diet.
I've spoken a lot about the uhHashimoto thyroid, hypo low
thyroid condition that I haveand have been struggling to
navigate.
And I've spoken a lot about thesymptoms of that, which for me
are predominantly, you know,thorough and complete exhaustion
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from waking up in the morning uhthrough going to bed at night.
So, you know, autoimmuneconditions are what I'll say
silently debilitating.
You know, if you see someonewalking around on crutches or,
you know, you happen to knowthat someone is struggling, it's
not like when you have the fluand like people can physically
see that you are just, you know,run down.
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Um it's it's just a kind of likea constant low.
And there are many otherconditions that support that
same um uh dynamic, I'll say.
But essentially, um, one of thethings that I have taken on um
or committed to or made thechoice for, depending on how you
want to look at it, is wasnavigating this, not just the
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diagnosis aspect of it, whichobviously is pertinent and
that's been going on for a fewyears now, um, but kind of when
the medication wasn't helping orthe medication wasn't working,
or I still felt the same evenwith the diagnosis and the
medication, was when I turned tothe dietary, uh dietary, not
dietary, dietary um changes andand the true conscious choices
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and discipline that it camewith, right?
So, and again, this is never acriticism of others' choices or
condemnation of how peoplechoose to live, you know, it's
just the process I had to gothrough because nothing was
working for me and I was tired,I am still tired of feeling that
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way.
Um, and it's frustrating.
And I believe that, you know,people who have chronic
conditions, I believefrustration is a huge shared,
you know, commonality withpeople that struggle uh with
autoimmune conditions and andother community, you know, other
systemic low-grade popproblematic things that can tend
to rear their ugly heads.
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So, to that end, I will go overbriefly kind of how I came to
this.
And I had been, I had tried theketo diet many years ago when it
first became popular.
My body did not respond well tothat.
And frankly, I've never felt thesame since I did it.
No condemnation on it, it justreally wasn't for me.
And like I said, I alwaysbelieve that dietary
restrictions, fad diets, or youknow, any sort of disciplinary
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choice that you make for yourbody and your health needs to
work for your body, it's not aone size fits all kind of a
thing.
Um, everybody is different,everybody is different, and you
really need to practice sometrial and error.
Um, so after I had tried keto,and while I lost some weight, I
definitely did not feel good.
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I then went to paleo.
And I, aside from the fact thatI was vegetarian and keto, which
is an easy thing to do, beingpaleo and vegetarian is a very
challenging thing to do.
And my new challenge is tryingto figure out how to do that.
So if anyone has any notes forme, please shoot me an email,
send me a DM, uh, because that'sthat's one that I haven't
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wrapped my head around, and I'lltalk a little bit about that.
But more importantly, is theidea of as my mom used to say in
Spanish, uno bet no son betes.
And that basically means onetime doesn't mean every time,
essentially.
And that's the kind of let youknow, eat the cake mentality,
right?
Like you only live once, eat thecake.
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And this whole line of thoughtis how I'd like to approach this
topic because I I agree withthat sentiment, insofar as uh,
you know, you have to enjoy yourlife, right?
Like, but I also think that uhunfortunately, if you have a
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predisposition uh towards uh uhlet's say addiction, and that
can be addiction of anything, itcould be a workaholic, it could
be working out, it could be, youknow, alcohol, it could be
nicotine, it could be, you know,their healthy air quotes for
those listening, for those whoare not watching, um, they're
good, they're healthyaddictions, right?
Um, working out can be anaddiction.
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Um, you know, making money canbe an addiction, gambling isn't
it?
So there are healthy andunhealthy addictions, but the
the bottom line is the addictionitself or the personality
characteristic, the the dopaminehit, and then the chasing of
that hit over and over and overagain, kind of like you know, a
lab rat in a cage, right?
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It's it's not that dissimilar.
And so if anyone remembers thestudy where they actually took
lab rats and they put them in acage and they gave them, I want
to say it was either cocaine orheroin or maybe both in
different different testsubjects.
Um, and of course, the lab ratskilled themselves with
addiction.
And then the researchersdecided, okay, well, we're going
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to, we didn't give them anythingelse to do.
We put them in the cage alone,we isolated them, and then we
gave them these drugs.
So they then gave them like labrat great adventures or lab rat
theme parks, whatever you wantto call it, and then put them in
a cage, a container with otherrats.
And guess what?
They didn't kill themselves withthese drugs that were still on
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offer to them.
They they opted for regularwater and not dosed water.
And why is that?
Well, it's because they hadthings to do and and other rats
to do them with.
So please Google that study forthe specifics, as I am really
glossing over it and certainlydon't want to take any credit
for the researchers that provedthat.
But the thing that's reallyimportant for me to recognize um
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is that there is when it comesto dietary restrictions, I truly
believe in in trial and error.
But when it comes to cheating,and I've mentioned this before
um with my diet, and I had it,it had it really rear its ugly
hat again recently.
And I'm going to use the lovelypotato as my metaphor for this.
So on a paleo diet, potatoes,white potatoes specifically, are
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kind of frowned upon.
They're not technically a grain,you can consume them, they are a
root vegetable, but they're kindof an empty carbohydrate.
They don't serve a lot ofnutritional value and function
in the body, especially so whenyou, you know, make them or
process them in a way that makesthem taste delicious, but even
less healthy for you, aka theFrench fry or the mashed
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potatoes mixed with dairy,butter, and cream.
And so while they are deliciousand you know, you can't, it's
very hard to pass up.
I have recently, there was justthere was a there was an eat the
cake, let them eat cake.
You only live once moment forme, where I really I was sitting
next to my friend.
I usually order a burger withouta bun and a very sad salad next
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to it.
And my friend got a burger alsowithout a bun, but she got the
truffle fries.
And I just in that moment wantedthose stinking truffle fries.
And I have been to thisrestaurant many times, and I
happen to know that they putthey use soy in their deep
fryer.
And soy for me specifically andfor the paleo diet is big no no.
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And I said, you know what?
I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna powerthrough and I'm gonna I'm gonna
eat the truffle fries, and theywere delicious.
And as my mother used to say,Rebh, no son bethes.
However, the next time I went tothe same said restaurant and I
had been in the habit ofordering my unless burger with
my sad salad, I yet againordered the fries.
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So that was two times in a row.
And that is where, as much as Ilove my mother, and may she not
roll over in her grave when I,you know, negate her saying, the
Spanish saying, essentially,therein lies the rub, which was
also a saying of hers.
So there you go, mom.
Two for two.
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The problem is that you get to aplace where when you let it
slide once, it becomes a heck ofa lot easier to let it slide
again, especially if you don'thave the ramifications.
The flip side of that is overthe holidays, as we are now
officially in them when I amrecording this, I had real
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mashed potatoes, not the vegan,you know, avocado oil-based
mashed potatoes, but I had realmashed potatoes.
And I will tell you, maybe itwas the dairy.
I'm not entirely, can't put myfinger on it, but I had a
physical, you know, a notpleasant reaction after eating
them.
And so it's like, there it is.
So there we know, there we knowthat that that was not positive.
I will say I did not have aphysical reaction to the French
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fries, um, which makes it easierto do it a second time, right?
That's that's where where thecrux is.
If it's a pain point, you're notgonna do it again.
If it's not a pain point, youjust know it's not the best
choice you can make, makes it alot easier to continue with that
choice.
So remember when I said I wasn'tgonna get on a soapbox?
A little lay for that.
The whole the reason that I usethe illustrious French fry and
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the potato as my preface forwhat I'm about to dive into is
because I think that it is afairly relatable metaphor for
what I have yet to discuss,which is what we're gonna dive
into right now.
So keep the idea of the Frenchfry and the ease of transition
with the French fry as Icompletely um open up and share
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this little story with you guys.
So when I chose to become paleo,I did it in stages.
The first time I had done ityears ago, and I will say,
unfortunately for me, my bodydoes do well with meat on my
diet.
I it's I tend to get physicallysick much more easily and just
unwell on a purely vegetariandiet.
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So paleo and I, I will say,unfortunately, resonate well.
Not from my ethical, moralloving animal standpoint, but
for my body, it it tends toagree with me.
Out of all of the fad diets thatare out there, um, this one it's
essentially clean eating for themost part, unless you're eating
soy-based truffle fries.
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Um, but overall, it's gottengotten me quite well.
Now, I wanted to go into it alittle more gently than the last
time, which was like from ketoto paleo.
So they're a little bitadjacent.
So, and it wasn't a terribletransition.
But I just feel like, you know,the more we age gracefully, if
we can, the more gentler we needto be with our bodies.
And so when I chose to do it, itwas two years ago now, give or
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take.
Um, and I first gave up allgrains and I did that for at
least a month.
Then I gave up dairy and legumeskind of together because the
legumes that I was most heavilyreliant on, let's be honest, was
hummus.
So I I kind of picked my battlesand eased myself out of it.
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Um, so it took me about two, twoto three months to go from
vegetarian, essentially, what Iwas, to to paleo.
And in that process, I thought Ihad been on the medication for
let's say about six months, um,the original thyroid medication
as a note, and I truly didn'tfeel better.
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And I thought, okay, well, I'vegiven up grain, I've given up
dairy, let's give it a littlemore time.
So I gave it a couple moremonths.
Um, and this was all, let's justsay, by the time it had been a
number of months, I was about, Iwas about middle of the summer.
Um, I guess not about almost twoyears ago now, but at least a
year and a half ago.
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And the one thing that I had notgiven up and that I have, you
know, consistently has been apart of my existence, honestly,
since I was a little kid.
I grew up European.
My parents, my mother wasSpanish, my father was Italian.
Um, and so wine or beer, alcoholwas a big part of our existence.
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Um, and it wasn't no one everwas drunk, and it was never
anything that I thought of asabnormal.
If you go to Europe, little kidsget wine with dinner.
It's not a thing.
It's a very different mentalityum than we have here in the US.
And I think that that's apositive thing.
Now, for me, as I got older inhigh school, obviously we would
drink at parties in college.
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When you turn 21, you know,drinking was a part of the
culture for those people thatimbibe it.
I will I will say that I was aself-proclaimed party girl back
in the day, 100%.
Um, and so I definitely drankprobably more than I should,
definitely more than I shouldhave, and probably, you know, a
decent amount or more so thanothers, like if there was a
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scale.
At no point did I ever callmyself, consider myself to be an
alcoholic.
At no point did I feel relianton alcohol, but but socially, as
I worked in radio after Igraduated college, um, you know,
I had I had a public, you know,we were in clubs a lot.
It was just, it was a part ofthe culture that followed me
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after college and was so incollege as well.
You know what I will say,because like I said, this is a
this is a soapbox uhsoul-bearing episode for me.
Um I also was a smoker and Istarted smoking when I was
little, honestly, because I myfirst boyfriend smoked and I
wanted to impress him.
And then I continued.
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Not a lot.
I was a kid, it wasn't reallyeasy to get cigarettes, but
through high school, throughcollege, into young adulthood, I
was a smoker.
And I will be honest, I really,really did enjoy it.
And I gave it up because, youknow, yoga teacher, hashtag,
right?
Like, not exactly a great lookto be coughing through your
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vinyasa.
So around the time that I becamea yoga instructor and and really
around when my mother passed ofcancer, right?
Like, you know, you you havesome hard truths hit you.
Um, and I I did eventually quitsmoking.
I will say, for an addictivestyle personality, and the
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reason that I bring that up isbecause I gave up alcohol, 100%
cold turkey, stopped, haven'thad a drink in almost two years,
one and a half plus years.
And it was easy for me.
So I preface that first bysaying I'm sorry, not that I
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need to apologize, but I knowhow challenging and how hard how
devastating alcohol can be forpeople, for families.
And so it was not when I madethe decision, uno bethnos on
bethes, when I made the choiceto not drink, I I just made that
choice, and I have consistentlymade that choice for quite quite
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some time now.
When I quit smoking, that wasnot easy.
That was not easy.
I weaned myself down to thisday.
I finally am in a place where ifI smell a cigarette, it kind of
grosses me out.
But like I know that if I had acigarette, I would want another
one immediately.
I truly, I forget, I think itI'd be like Chandler on Friends.
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If you remember, if you've eversaw the episode where Chandler
smoked a cigarette and he waslike, Oh my god, that would be
me if I had a cigar.
And I know that, I know thatabout myself, and so I will not
do that.
And that begs the question ofthe same with people that have
issues or struggle with alcohol.
And again, the reason that I'mbringing this up is because I
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want to share what I've learned,what I've noticed over the past
year somewhat, because I'm also,you know, I have a lot of
friends where, you know, we wehang out at at bars and
restaurants together.
And I'm very blessed because itdoesn't bother me.
I can go out to the bar, I canhave a club soda, and I it
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doesn't bother me to sit.
But the things that I've noticedis that the culture, the social
aspect of it, I've seen peoplestruggle when they stop drinking
to navigate that aspect.
Um, and for me, like I said, I'mluckier than most.
I was able to quit very easily.
It didn't bother me.
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I'm able to be around peoplethat are drinking.
It doesn't bother me.
I don't, I'm not triggered byit.
I don't care.
I'm fine.
The only thing I will say isthat I want to go home earlier.
It's not fun for me to hang outpast a certain point when
there's nothing else going onother than drinking.
And it's never a condemnation,it's just a shift.
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And I think the one thing thatI've taken from this journey,
and this is the therein lies thepoint after however many minutes
of backstory, herein lies thepoint.
The point is essentially yourpriorities, everyone's
priorities.
And what I realized in thisjourney of healing, I'm gonna
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call it journey of healingbecause it started due to, and
I'm not gonna say there weren'tmental and emotional components
to it because that wouldn't beauthentic, but it started
predominantly with the struggleof feeling like garbage all day,
every day, and really being overthat and trying to eliminate the
different potential causes ofthat, and finally eliminating
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alcohol is like, well, I havegiven up everything else and I
don't feel better, and so let mestop drinking and see if then I
feel better.
And here's the sad reality forme.
And I I can't imagine that it'slike this because everyone else
that I that I talked to thateven stopped drinking, maybe not
forever, but for a few weeks ora few months, or you know, had
dry January.
Um, they would always like, ohmy god, I feel so great.
I never felt better.
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I didn't feel better.
I it it I my sleep improved,right?
Like my sleep improved.
Um, I will say I I didn't myweight didn't really improve
much from not drinking anymore.
Um, but I had had a historywhere I had already started to
give up wine because it wouldgive me my body changed.
changed and my I wine was myfavorite thing and I couldn't
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drink it because it would giveme headaches or I would wake up
in the middle of the night and Ialready started drinking heart
alcohol which kind of led tothis trajectory of like well now
I'm not even drinking becauseI'm enjoying it.
I'm drinking because I'mdrinking and that was it.
And it was just kind of likewell why?
And and and and that was kind ofthe struggle and um a friend of
mine passed away very youngaround my age and I really
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struggled when I found that newsout and having nothing to do
with alcohol at all actually umbut it just it just broke my
heart and I was not okaymentally and emotionally.
And I realized one night when Iwas crying and I'd had a few a
few cocktails I was like I'm notI'm not okay I'm not okay and
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there's something underlying andthis is not helping drinking is
not helping it's what it didhelp to do was it helped to show
me that I wasn't okay that Ireally needed to take a pause
and I really needed to reflectand I really needed to evaluate
my priorities.
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Meeting up with my friends afterwork or whatever was my priority
I would wake up I would stay uplate and wake up late.
That was not a great choice forme but I would just make it
through the day I would you knowyou'd power through um certainly
like I said even though I didn'tfeel better that's the thyroid
it's not it's not from thealcohol but I would definitely
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like I'm certainly much muchless sleep deprived or my
quality of sleep has definitelyimproved.
And so I think that the thing totake away from this not that you
need to stop drinking not thatyou need to you know check
yourself as an addictivepersonality but there is a
distinction between knowing thatyou have a potentially addictive
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personality doesn't have to bealcohol it doesn't have to be
cigarettes it doesn't have to beit could it could be work right
and that could have positiveramifications right like there's
not all bad addictions but Ithink humans tend to have
addictive predispositions andthere's something safe in the
cycle there's something known inthe repetition right and it's
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breaking free much like um mymost recent meditation breaking
free from that cycle getting offthe carousel breaking the cycle
stepping off and looking at thecarousel and evaluating it
reflecting looking at yourselflooking at your choices from a
really true perspective and andfacing yourself can be hard man
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like that's not an easy I'm notit's not an easy thing to do
acknowledging that you know youhave made choices that pardon me
may not serve you or didn'tserve you and that you made them
over and over and over again umit's it's a little bit of a
tough pill to swallow I will sayum but what's on the other side
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of that hopefully is isawareness better choices and an
upward trajectory onwards andupwards.
And so when I talk about thisand when I kind of tongue in
cheek say hey mom I don't knowif you were right about that one
I don't know if the span thisSpanish tradition of son betes
is is really truly accuratebecause I will tell you that
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that second French fry was a loteasier to order than the first
French fry.
And that's where disciplineplays a huge role a huge role in
your life choices and wellpeople will say eat the cake eat
the cake have a good day enjoythe day sure do it fine but I'm
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gonna say what's your prioritythat's my that's my what is your
priority that is my question toyou what is your what do you
want what do you want from yourlife what do you want from
yourself I recently had aconversation um with a friend of
mine and and two beautiful youngladies um little girls who are
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you know not even in their teensyet we were talking about uh we
were talking about maturity andthe two aspects and a friend of
mine said well you know maturityis being responsible for
something and being responsiblefor you know taking care of
something and you know whatwhatever it may be I said yeah
but the mature there's a secondpart of maturity it's being
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responsible for something likebeing responsible for your
health being responsible foryour family being responsible
for your financial well-beingbeing responsible for your life
there's also the accountabilityaspect and who are you
accountable to and what I saidto them was you know right now
you're accountable to yourparents you're accountable to
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your teachers you're accountableto you know your elders
essentially but I also said asyou get older you're no longer
maybe you're accountable to yourfor my case for to my priest or
to my employer or you knowthere's there to an authority
figure.
But at the end of the day thereis only an and God right of
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course if you believe in thatkind of thing source whatever
universe whatever you believe inyou are always accountable to
that which watches over andknows all that being said
ultimately you're accountable toyourself and that's what I told
them you're accountable toyourself you know what your
actions are you know when you'respeaking the truth you know when
you're lying you know whenyou're doing something with
integrity with authenticity orwhen you're not you are who and
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what you are accountable toalways and forever until until
your worm food right that is thedeal and when it comes to your
health when it comes to yournutritional choices when it
comes to eating the truffle fryor having the salad ultimately
you're accountable to yourselfand you know whether you kept up
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that discipline or you didn'tand a truffle fry may not be a
big deal and to me maybe evenhaving a glass of champagne on
New Year's wouldn't be a bigdeal but I'm not gonna do it.
And it's not because I'm worriedabout drinking and that being a
problem for me.
It really it was it was like Isaid it wasn't a challenge for
me to stop.
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But just smoking is a challengefor me.
I know that I should never smokea cigarette ever again.
That's just not a great call andfor anyone who's young listening
out there don't start smoking.
It's not worth it it's not worthit even though I said it was
very enjoyable um it's not worthit it's just not so as I say all
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of these things I will again sayI do not judge anyone who smokes
cigarettes I do not judge anyonewho drinks alcohol but I I will
say I will ask them what arewhat are you prioritizing?
What's important to you?
What is what what matters whatmatters to you who are you
accountable to as you get olderand you have family you're
accountable to your family youbecome accountable to your
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children you're responsible forand accountable to your children
to your family to your lovedones your health is I don't know
the most important gift that youcan give the people that love
you that is just a truestatement and I don't think
that's one that can be arguedwith or belabored.
So I say all of this to askeveryone what their priorities
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are and to note that as much asenjoying enjoying your life
enjoying a meal maybe you domake some dietary sacrifices
every once in a while maybe youdo eat the cake that's where the
forgiveness the closure and theand the that's where the
forgiveness comes in right meetyourself where you are and when
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you start these processes anyprocess of elimination any
disciplinary process when you'restarting from scratch meet
yourself where you are andthat's where the forgiveness
comes in you forgive yourselffor the French fry you forgive
yourself for the cake youforgive yourself for the drink
you forgive yourself for thecigarette that after some
practice has gone by and thepractice turns into habit and
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the habit becomes a disciplinewho are you accountable to and
why are you going to make thatchoice to deviate from your
discipline because at a certainpoint you've worked hard you've
put in a lot of time you've putin a lot of effort you've put in
a lot of mental and emotionalload towards these positive
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choices why are you gonna letone choice break that stride and
you can I'm not gonna hold itagainst you I'll forgive you for
it you forgive yourself for itit doesn't matter it doesn't it
doesn't matter and is that yourpriority is your priority in
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that moment the oh no BethNothon Bethes or is your
priority the amount of effortthat I put in is worth more to
me than this this this singulartruffle fry and sometimes it it
will be sometimes it's worthit's a worthy truffle fry and I
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will give that to you but it isnever a worthy cigarette
unfortunately and you have toknow yourself you have to learn
yourself you have to know yourown boundaries because it's not
just like the diet just likechoosing to be paleo whole food
30 vegan like keto whatever dietworks for your body low VODMAP
whatever diet whatever nutritionbest serves your overall health
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it is different for everybody.
Whatever choice best serves youin that moment if you're going
through something emotional andyou've been you haven't had a
practice of of not leaning onyour vices whether they be
nicotine whether they be alcoholwhether they be food you know
whatever your vices are you'regoing through something let
yourself go through it and anddo what you need to do for
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yourself and then forgiveyourself come back to yourself
and hold yourself accountablebut I will tell you the practice
of discipline makes you reallyconsider whether or not breaking
that discipline is worth thereward the instant gratification
and that's a question that onlyyou can answer.
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So I know that this has been thesoapbox to end all soapboxes.
So if you have made it this farI truly truly want to thank you
for your time and attention Ihope that my journey of healing
and and through addictiveprocesses and through
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backsliding with smoking forsure I mean it didn't wasn't an
overnight eventually it is rightyou always have one less
cigarette but a lot of peoplestruggle with addictions they
don't all look the same they areas varying as diets as body
types as mental and emotionalfeedback loops find what works
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for you but get off the carouselthat's the one thing that I say
you can't until you're awareuntil you're willing to confront
yourself until you're willing toask yourself the hard questions
what am I prioritizing?
What matters to me where am Ispending my time what am I
giving my focus and attention totill you're ready to have those
conversations with yourselfforgive yourself and then once
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you know better do better.
And so again if you've made itthis far I just want to tell you
how much I appreciate each andevery one of you for sharing
this space with me and ask thatyou please feel free to share
the same with your loved ones.
For more goodness follow me onall the socials at Above the
Ground Podcast or visit mywebsite errorsaboveyoga.com as
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always don't forget to check outmy other episodes especially the
meditation from last week andcheck out all of my amazing
sisters at divas that care youcan find us on Spotify, Odyssey,
Apple Amazon iHeartRadio oranywhere else that you may feel
guided.
Again my name is Gia RaquelRose, owner of Airs Above Yoga
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day is a good one.
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