Menopause, Balance, And Becoming You

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We explore how Ayurveda helps women in their 40s and 50s reclaim balance by addressing root causes instead of symptoms, and why slowing down, organizing life, and leaning on community create steadier energy and clearer minds. Kendra shares daily practices, seasonal wisdom, and an invite to her Happy Body Club.

• root-cause approach to perimenopause and menopause
• doshas explained and how “like increases like”
• why quick fixes stall healing and how to slow down
• community’s role in accountability and results
• organization as a path to lighter energy
• simple morning rituals that set the tone
• seasonal living over calendar deadlines
• making harmonious choices without perfectionism

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Episode Transcript

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Welcome to Confidence in Bloom, the podcast
that reminds you that confidenceisn't about becoming someone
new.
It's about coming home toyourself.
I'm your host, Tina Spolotini,and this season we're embracing
the end of year at beginning ofme theme.
A time to pause, reflect, andlet go of what no longer serves

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you.
Together we'll explore realstories and soulful insights to
help you quiet that itty bittyshitty committee, release the
shoulds that weigh you down, andstep into the new year grounded
in self-love, clarity, andconfidence.
Let's begin today'sconversation.
Today I'm chatting with KendraIrvine.

(01:12):
Kendra is a clinical Ayurvedicspecialist and happy body guide
helping women in their 40s and50s reclaim their health.
No prescriptions needed.
Through her Living LightAyurveda method, she teaches how
to restore balance, energy, andpurpose using time-tested
Ayurvedic wisdom.
Welcome, Kendra.

(01:34):
Thank you.
I'm so excited.
You and I have had many chatsover the last, I think it's been
about five years that we'veknown each other.
And I know that we have thetendency of going down many
rabbit hills at many times,right?
I can ask one question andsomehow we can go down many

(01:56):
different tunnels.
And so we're gonna we're gonnaattempt this.
Yeah, exactly.
Okay, so my first question foryou is what does it look like in
your practice?
How does Ayurveda fill the gapthat modern medicine often

(02:17):
leaves for women in midlife?

SPEAKER_01 (02:21):
Well, when it comes to Ayurveda filling the gap, if
there really isn't any gaps tobe filled.
The gaps have really beensomething that has been
established by the modernmedical system, as it were.
And I know something that I'mgonna say might be
controversial, and maybe theremay be people that disagree with
that.
However, if we look at theorigins of Ayurveda, it really
is the oldest text that everexisted on this planet come from

(02:44):
Ayurveda.
Um, so when it comes to modernmedicine, there are a lot of
gaps and a lot of holes becauseit doesn't address the root
cause.
So that's one of the tenets ofAyurveda is looking at not what
the band-aid solution is andproviding um more like um

(03:05):
reactive care to a symptom andtreating the symptom.
It's looking at what the causeof that is and tracing it back
to its root origin.
So if we're talking aboutfilling gaps, it's more so going
back to um the start of how asymptom or a disharmony in

(03:26):
someone's body began and lookingat treating that with natural
with natural approaches andlooking at at um the laws of
nature.

SPEAKER_02 (03:37):
Cool.
Now, now I know many women intheir 40s and 50s were talking
perimenopause, menopause.
Um I I'm wondering when you whenyou say you're going back to
root cause, I mean we all know,like when we, you know, become
women, right?
That that is going to disappear,right?

(03:58):
We all know that menopause atsome point is going to happen.
When you say root cause, are wegoing back to when we were 14
and became women?
Or is it something like are themenopause symptoms that we're
feeling or perimenopausesymptoms?
I don't even know what the theproper you know title of them
are.
Is that something that we arelike I don't want to say

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ignoring, but it are we dealingwith them in the incorrect way
if in Ayurveda or right?
Like, do you understand what I'msaying?
Like, is it are we dealing withthe wrong issues, I guess is is
my question.

SPEAKER_01 (04:35):
Well, there's a few ways that you could answer that.
When it comes to dealing withthe wrong issues, I think it
mostly has a lot to do withgiving in like giving the
individual blanket advice.
Um, so saying that yourexperience of menopause is going
to be the weight gains, gonna bethe mood swings, it's gonna be
the um hot flashes.

(04:56):
That's a big, you know, trait orsymptom that occurs with the
process of menopause, and we'lland we'll call it menopause just
for the sake of argument.
Um, menopause can be made worseor better based on your
lifestyle.
So it's not a dis-ease.
A lot of marketing materialmakes it sound like it's a

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disorder that women go through.
It's not, it's a naturalprocess.
Um, so we first go throughmenarchy, which is our
menstruation when we bleed andall that stuff, and go through
the cycles.
Um, and then when when menopausehappens, is basically you start
to see the symptoms happengradually over time.

(05:38):
And I call this stages when ourbodies start sputtering out,
right?
And so um our periods start tochange, the length of them, the
consistency.
Um, we start to notice all sortsof symptoms occur, and that can
happen in early onset, um, in inwomen's 20s and 30s, even.
I've I've heard of cases wherethat's that's their experience.

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Um, but the symptoms that womenexperience are actually more um
imbalanced and they're moresevere if they've already been
living a life up until thispoint out of balance and not in
alignment with what theirnatural constitution is.
So where Ayurveda comes in, forthose who don't know what it is,

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is Ayurveda is life science.
So it really looks at how to umwork with the workhorses, the
doshas, vada, pit, and kava.
So each one of us has adifferent constitution that
we're born with.
And if we're doing things in ourlifetime that create imbalances,
we oftentimes don't even knowthat's the case.

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And we've developed these habitsor this particular lifestyle
that we've been living in thisconstant state of disharmony.
And when we when we notice thatour digestion is off, we're not
sleeping properly, our energy isoff, we're gaining weight, we're
losing weight, all these sort offluctuation fluctuations keep

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happening as a result of livingout of harmony with what your
natural constitution is.
With the process of Ayurveda, itclears that up.
It tells us what's yourconstitution?
Are you more vada, are you morepitta, more kafa?
What does that mean in Englishterms?
Are you more, um, if we look atthe five basic building blocks
of all creation, we have air,ether, fire, water, and earth.

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So if you're more of a Vadatype, you're more air and ether.
If you're more pitta type,you're fire and a little bit of
water.
And if you're kapha, you'reearth and water.
So each one of thoseconstitutions, if they're doing
things in terms of theirlifestyle that are imbalancing
to them, say the fire types areeating lots of spicy foods,

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those two will create furtherimbalances.
So if we live our life in aconstant, you know, ebb and flow
of imbalance, what happens as westart to move into our 40s and
50s and we start to experiencemenopause symptoms, they can
become more severe because ofthe life that we led up until
that point.

(08:12):
Getting sick, getting better,getting sick, getting better.
And what Ayurveda does is ithelps to smooth out that
transition so you so you reduceor remove the disharmonies as a
whole.
And then the symptoms that weexperience when our bodies are
changing and moving into thatdifferent phase of life are

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either non-existent or they'resignificantly reduced for each
one of the body types.

SPEAKER_02 (08:40):
Okay, so I have a quick question about um like you
were saying the pittas, ifthey're eating lots of spicy
foods.
So that like the fire, like thefire and adding the fire.
So is that the like attractslike type of thing, right?
Like I'm like, okay, so we uhyou and I both know I'm
considered a kaffa.

(09:00):
So that's heavy, uh dense, slowmoving.
I mean, I can I that's me,right?
Slow moving, heavy, all thethings.
And I love breads and pastas andall the heavy, dense foods,
right?
So is that like the fire, thespicy is attracting the more of
the fire and the like that'skind of what you're saying,

(09:22):
right?

SPEAKER_01 (09:22):
So many people will know what Ayurveda has known for
thousands of years, and they'llthey'll refer to it as the law
of attraction.
So what you say is is correct interms of um the different
quality types.
You mentioned like khaffa beingmore heavy, dense, um, and not
very mobile, and also tends toattract things that are similar

(09:43):
qualities in their life, eventhe things that they like enjoy,
for example, heavy, dense, andvery like cloudy, thick kinds of
foods.
So, what happens is we're justwe're just talking about
qualities.
So a lot of the the operant umways of Ayurveda come down to

(10:04):
what the qualities are.
And so if someone is morekaffa-type and they have more
heavy and stagnant qualities,and they like things that are
heavy and stagnant, or evenlifestyle habits that tend to be
like that as well.
Like lots of kaffas don't loveexercise, right?
And so that tends to be more ofa stagnant type activity.
So, what happens is that it isif you get too much of those

(10:27):
qualities, you get an imbalance.
It's um uh like an overgrowth,if you will, for lack of better
terms.
Uh, the same thing with the firetypes, they get too much fire in
their life by being toocompetitive, um, experiencing
burnout because they want tolike do all the things and be
the leader and eat like spicyfoods and things that are like

(10:49):
sour and increase their fire.
And then there's the vada typesthat tend to be the go-getters,
and they're our lightest anddriest of all of the all the
doshas, they tend to um want tohave a very like um more
spontaneous type lifestyle.
They tend to be the creators,they tend to not want to have

(11:09):
any sort of ritual or anythinglike that.
But what happens is that if youbring on too many of those
qualities of which you alreadyare by your nature, an imbalance
is sure to move in.
So the next question is what dowe do about that, right?

SPEAKER_02 (11:27):
Right.
And so, okay, so then I'm I'mthinking ahead here, but if
we're like this in our 20s and30s, when life is like what we
call normal, right?
When we hit the perimenopausestage and we're getting all
these menopause symptoms, thatis is that the imbalance you
were talking about earlier,where you know, now we have to

(11:47):
go back to the you know the rootcause.
You know, like your symptoms aregonna be worsened.
I'm not gonna say worsened orheightened, I guess is a better
word, um, depending on how youlived in your 20s and 30s.
So if if you're a PITA and youlike lots of spicy foods, then
your menopause symptoms could beworse than if you didn't.

(12:07):
Is that right?

SPEAKER_01 (12:09):
Um, if you spend a lot of your time in this
imbalance, then your symptomsbecome worse.
Here's the thing, though, isthat PITAs can be imbalanced in
not just inflammatoryconditions.
They can get congestion, theycan get um excess gross, they
can have mucus in their body,they can also suffer from

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anxiety and overwhelm, which arenot PITA conditions.
Those are morvada conditions.
So as a result of the way thatwe um choose to live our
lifestyle, in if it's imbalancedand it's creating issues via
symptoms, or what we call rupain Ayurveda, um, it doesn't

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matter if you're if you're PITA,a PITA is not going to be
subject to increased menopausesymptoms because they've done
too many PITA things, or they'velived in in excess of PITA, they
can get those symptomsregardless.
Like if they've got, they'veexperienced a lifetime of
anxiety and they haven'tprocessed a lot of their

(13:16):
emotions or they haven't changedanything about their digestion,
they can still experiencesymptoms of menopause that are
that are the same, if notgreater, um, when they come to
that phase of their life.

SPEAKER_02 (13:34):
Okay, so like everything, right?
It could affect them, it couldnot, right?
Like it's it it's not, and I Iknow menopause, I mean menopause
is the big talk with womenbetween you know 40 and 50.
I I get that.
Like that's not the only symptomwe're you know, we're having.
And the thing is we're like I'mstarting to realize that you
know, uh all the symptoms arethe same, right?

(13:55):
Like every disease seems tostart with, you know, the same
kind of symptoms, the brain fog,the lack of energy, the you
know, the the gut issues, likeit's all uh kind of the same,
right?
And so I know like withAyurveda, I mean, I think it's
almost impossible to follow thisAyurveda.
Like I've been trying it forfive years, right?

(14:17):
There's always that slide,right?
And you know this.
I mean, you're you're teachingme, right?
You're teaching me how to dothis, right?
But there's I mean it'simpossible, right?
In our world, it is impossibleto follow it 100%.
Do you agree with that?

SPEAKER_01 (14:33):
Yeah, because in the Western world, we've become so
acclimated to a certain systemthat has actually not been in
our best interest.
So without going down thatrabbit hole, um, the way we are
word intentioned on living ourlives is living to our true
potential.

(14:53):
So, what that means is that weare supposed to be living freer
than we are.
However, if we have a systemthat does not support the free
and sovereign individual, thenum everything that we put in
place to be able to create umthe most harmonious bodies

(15:16):
possible is it's been itrequires a lot of extra work
because we live in a system thatis not conducive and not natural
to our um to what nature hasdesigned for us.
It completely undermines whatour our our rhythms are.

(15:40):
And so many people are livingout of alignment.
In fact, I would argue justabout everyone is, as a result
of the system that was createdbased on um based on order,
based on creating, you know, uhI'm look I'm losing the words
right now, but it's it's notdesigned for the individual to

(16:04):
be able to come into theirfullest versions of themselves,
because if they did, then thatperson could not be controlled.
And then the system that hasbeen developed based on profit
would lose their profit, right?
So you have to look at this, andsome of it you may not like what
you come to when you start doingthe deep digging.

(16:25):
Um, but in order to be able tolive our potential, um it
requires a little bit ofrebellion and revolution on our
part.
That's like, are we gonna keepliving the way that we are if
it's if it's conducive to all ofimbalances that we're
experiencing in our guts, in ourum in our minds and our nervous

(16:49):
system and all that?
Or it is it a matter of bringingin um the habits and the tools
that we need to live aspeacefully as possible and
really take a hard look at howdo I want to live the rest of my
life based on what the systemsays I should do or based on
what is actually good for mybody?

(17:09):
And oftentimes what we find isthat what's good for my body is
not good for the system.
The system doesn't care aboutthat, right?
But I have to care enough aboutmy body to say, you know, I'm
actually going to start makingdecisions that are good for me,
not based on what someone elsetells me I need to do for my
body.

SPEAKER_02 (17:29):
Right, right.
And I mean, when we we hearthat, we think, I mean, there's
so many different things thatthat, you know, qualifies under.
But I mean, diet culture is topof that list for me, right?
We're all like, this is how youlose weight, this is how you
feel better.
This, you know, and and really,I mean, every single person is

(17:49):
different, right?
If you know, like I have thisargument with my son all the
time that mom, all you need todo is cut calories and move
more.
Well, no, it doesn't work likethat, right?
Like sometimes I can lose weightwithout moving more, and
sometimes I can eat more, right?
As long as I'm, you know, movingmore.

(18:09):
Like it just depends on yourbody, right?
And and that's only one.
I know that you know, the wholeAyurveda system is, you know, we
could break it down into every,you know, lifestyle, like every
or every life area, I guess isis a better term.

SPEAKER_01 (18:27):
It's our environment, really.
Like, and when it comes to womenwho struggle with weight loss,
for example, a lot of peoplemake that the problem.
It's not the problem, it's thesymptom of another problem
happening, and that's adisharmony that that occurs in
the body.
And a lot of us will want to putband-aid solutions on that,
we'll want to throwprescriptions at it and pills

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and and magic dust and machinesand you know, expensive
therapies and specialists andall those sorts of things.
But what has that got us?
If you look at the evidencearound you, with all that we
have and advances in the medicalsystem, with all that we've
thrown at cancer research andand um all sorts of different

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organizations, does the evidencesuggest that with that approach
that we're getting healthier orthat we're getting sicker?

SPEAKER_02 (19:18):
Yeah, that's a really good question because I
mean, we're all everybody'ssick, right?
Everybody's sick.
That was rhetorical.

SPEAKER_01 (19:26):
That was rhetorical.
Everyone is getting sickerbecause the system is not
designed for you to besuccessful.
So you have to look to origin,you have to look to nature, you
have to go back to what makes ushuman, what are the basic

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building blocks and look at thelook to what has been in front
of us this whole time that wehave been removed from and go
back there.
This is the journey back home,and we have to do it not by
ourselves as we've been told,but we need to do that um in

(20:07):
community and with our with oursisters, with our brothers.

SPEAKER_02 (20:11):
Yeah, I love that.
And that that's I'm I want totalk a little bit about
community, actually, communityversus isolation.
So, I mean, the isolation topichas come up a lot, you know, in
conversation over the last fiveyears.
You and I both know that we bothhave our own sets of opinions,
and we're not gonna get intothat because you know, we're

(20:32):
just gonna create a lot of youknow, that's how we can turn and
turn into a very long one, long.
Yeah, exactly.
So I want to know what yourthoughts are on how does
connection or support fromothers, like your community,
impact women and their abilityto restore their own balance and

(20:56):
energy.

SPEAKER_01 (20:58):
Well, I find oftentimes if we seek out this
the sense of healing on our own,we as human beings aren't built
to um grow and become harmonizedall on our own.
If we were the if that were thecase, there would be one person

(21:18):
living on this planet, right?
We are designed to um to live incooperation for one another for
the evolution and growth of notonly our species, but all living
things on this planet.
And what we're seeing right nowis quite the opposite.
And what we saw saw over thepast five years went in the

(21:39):
opposite direction of that.
Um, and it goes against our ourintuition.
Um, when it comes to healing incommunity, we if we think about
it, I'm I'm not gonna be able tojust find the resources that I
need that make sense, try itout, see if it works for me or

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not, if if I'm by myself.
I need to look to resources tobe able to create that.
So, where am I gonna look inmodern times?
Um, I go onto Google or I gointo magazines or I'd attend a
podcast or I'd attend a ceremonyor I'd attend a talk or a
networking event or somethinglike that if I'm searching out

(22:22):
what's gonna work for me.
And then it's up for me todecipher between what's real and
what's not, what's gonna benefitme and what aligns and what
doesn't.
But I I require other entitiesto make that happen.
That's not just gonna come outof the blue by myself and be
self-created.
That's gonna be because I'vereached out to others in the in

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the community.
And sometimes I'll come across aperson or a podcast or a
networking event that doesn'talign for me.
And then I know what not to do.
So it's a process of eliminationthat can only occur when we seek
that out and other people thatare like us because we don't
heal when we feel this stressall on our own.

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Think about if you've been in aconversation before where it's
like, oh my gosh, that person'sso like me, I'm not alone.
And right there, the stress andall that stuff that we've been
carrying and thinking that we'reby ourselves all of a sudden
starts to melt.
And it's like, oh my gosh, thisother lady who's sharing her
story and all hervulnerabilities is going through

(23:28):
the same thing that I am.
And I need to have aconversation with her.
We we don't solve wars withviolence, we solve it with
conversation and moving ahead.
And that was a lot of whatGandhi's work was about, right?
And why he stood so firmly onthat hill was that we're gonna

(23:49):
move forward with the evolutionof our species by cooperating,
not by competing.
And we cannot do that if we tryand do it by ourselves.

SPEAKER_02 (23:59):
Yeah, yeah.
I like that's like, you know, Ithink it's becoming more and
more evident now than like justthree, four years ago, right?
Yeah, I think we we all kind ofwent into the whole pandemic
with you know, we can do thisalone, right?
We I can do this alone, right?
But the reality is no, nobodycan do this alone, right?

(24:21):
You can't raise a you can'traise a child alone, right?
We are, I mean, I've heard foryou know all my life that it
takes a village, right?
But it's not just a child,right?
Like it's not just your familythat we're we're living, we're
we're raising so many differentthings that we need people.
We need to know that there'sothers that have, you know,
struggled in some way, and youstart comparing notes.

(24:43):
Well, you know, maybe I'll trythat.
Maybe that won't work, right?
We don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (24:47):
Well, and remember that child turns into the adult,
right?
So that child never disappears,never goes away.
There's the inner child thatlives in the adult, but the
child becomes the adult.
So it's not just child's gone,and then there's this adult, and
then all of a sudden we don'tneed to be, you know, raised
anymore, but we do need to besupported 100%.

(25:08):
I think the statistics I lookedinto when I was when I was
building uh the club were likehow much better is community at
helping people to um get theirresults faster than it is to try
to do it by yourself, and theresult was 60%.
We are that much more likely tobe.

SPEAKER_02 (25:27):
And so when you say community, like yeah, yeah, of
course.
And so is that is that more likeyeah, yeah, and we're gonna talk
about your community for sure.
But I I'm wondering, you know,like when you say that 60%, what
does that really include?
That's not necessarily like, youknow, I'm gonna hire this this

(25:48):
coach to help me through this.
It's more about you know, havingyou know, uh discussions with
one or more people, and we'retalking about this is what I'm
going through, right?
This is what you've gonethrough.
How did you handle it?
How can you know, can you haveways for me to handle it?
Or you kind of sit around andyou have a glass of wine and you

(26:09):
joke around about it, right?
It just relieves a little bit ofthat stress, right?
Is that kind of what you wouldsay the community is beneficial
for?

SPEAKER_01 (26:19):
Well, I mean, it's not just resources from from a
founder or a leader or uh likean Ayurvedic specialist such as
myself.
That's not the main reasonpeople would people join
community, whether it's onlineor offline.
Um, it's a sense of that thatcamaraderie.
The number one thing people saythat's most important to them in

(26:39):
their lives is their family, notmy money, not um, you know,
whatever reason, not athleticability or anything like that.
It's my family.
And it's because I feel acertain way when I'm around
them.
So people don't care about anyof that other stuff.
They care about how they feelwhen they're in the presence of

(27:01):
other people.
And so we we have an energeticfield.
We can tell if someone isgenerally not going to be good
for energy or not.
And that extends, I think, aboutsix feet from our bodies.
So one of the reasons why peopleenjoy getting together more so
than they do online.
And I heard that so muchthroughout the pandemic.

(27:22):
Um, about like, yeah, I want todo this online thing because
it's the closest thing I canget, because they're basically
getting us into trouble if wetry and get gathered together.
But I am zoomed out, and that'sbecause there's an energetic
field that is that is felt whenyou're in the presence of
someone else.
And so intuitively, your bodycan pick up on that so much

(27:47):
better when you've cut away alot of the fluff, all the things
that are ailing you, you're noteven thinking about, you're not
even thinking about personalgrowth or anything like that
when you're dealing with youknow gut issues that have you
doubled over going to thebathroom when you're in public
all the time.
You want to fix that right away,right?

(28:07):
But how do you how do you cometo that knowledge?
How do you come to thoseconclusions?
Because you're putting yourselfin in situations where you're
where that are that are socialand you're amongst other people
because we we learn notnecessarily not necessarily by
the words that people say, buthow we feel um when we're when
we're around them.
So and they don't have to evensay anything.

(28:29):
They just are, they have thatthat an initial energy that
makes us say, hey, you know, Iwant some of that for me.
How do I how do I connect withthat?
And that's kind of important.
Wow.
Yeah.
So that can come from students,fellow students, or that can
come from from a leader or aspecialist or or whatever it is.

(28:51):
And I find more than anything,you know, I've been a part of of
groups myself.
I've attended meetings, I'vehired coaches, I've done all
that stuff.
Um, and in many cases, I'velearned so much from the other
students that are in the class.
Um, sometimes what they saystands out more than than the
education that I'm receivingfrom the teacher at the time.

SPEAKER_02 (29:16):
Yeah, yeah.
And I I'm sure, I mean, I thinkmost people can relate with
that.
I know myself, that's totallyhow I've learned in the past.
I mean, not 100% for sure, but amajority of what I'm learning is
like, oh, she gets it that way.
Like I understand it the way sheworded it, even though the you
know, the teacher or instructorjust said the exact same thing,
right?

(29:36):
That's kind of how yeah, yeah.
And and I'm a people person.
The more people I have in theroom with me, the better I feel,
the better I, you know, myenergy gets.
So I I can can relate with that.
So in a world now that glorifieshustle, I mean, that's the
system we're in.
You teach that slowing down canactually lead to more
sustainable results.

(29:57):
Yeah.
How do you how Women make thatmental and physical shift
without feeling like they'refalling behind.

SPEAKER_01 (30:07):
In incremental steps.
So you can't, you know, can'tput out a fire with fire, right?
So if I say, oh, like my methodis so much better, you should
follow it and everything, andthen I and I give them a whole
bunch of um, you know,homeworker recommendations to
do, that's really just givingthem this the same sort of

(30:27):
medicine that I'm telling themto not um go after anymore.
So um when we say in incrementalsteps, I think we're used to
instant gratification, and thathas been conditioned in us over
a number of years.
This is a slow burn, if youwill, right?
So we have become conditioned toexpect things um as soon as

(30:48):
possible.
I can literally pick up my phoneand do my banking and order pad
tie in less than like a minutenow, if I wanted to.
Whereas before the advent ofcell phones and things like
that, I literally have to get inmy vehicle, go to the bank, take
the money out, go to arestaurant, order pad tie, get
that, and that would have takenme what, like two hours?
And we can do it in less thanthat less than a minute.

(31:11):
So, what we're talking aboutright now really is the third
cause of disease.
In Ayurveda, we call itparinama, and that really, in a
matter of words, is the speedingup of time.
And so the faster that we'regoing is actually the faster
that we we let me put thisanother way, we decay at a
faster pace because we'respeeding up.

(31:33):
Our body gets older faster.
We're literally speeding uptime.
Um, so when we talk aboutslowing down to more effectively
heal our bodies, our bodies donot heal in a state of fight or
flight.
And so when we're constantlyhurried and we're walking around
and we're eating our dinner andwe're just shoveling it into our

(31:56):
mouths because we got to get tothe next thing, um, we're doing
that in a fight or flightscenario.
So our bodies aren't gonna doanything with what we're
consuming, even if what we'reeating is a kale salad, right?
It's supposedly supposed to behealthy for people.
It's it's not for all bodytypes, by the way.
Um, but if we're doing that in astate where we're in fight or

(32:17):
flight, that healing does notoccur.
That healing gets put on holdlike it does when we just throw
pills at it, for example.
And we we basically stall thenatural healing process that was
already coming, already comingdown the pipe for us when we
were starting to experience thatimbalance.

(32:38):
So the faster that we try tospeed everything up actually
undermines nature'sintelligence.
If you look at a tree that'sjust been marked up or scarred,
or someone took a, you know, anaxe to it, um, the tree's
natural process is it doesn'tput you know gauze around it

(32:59):
right away.
That's not its its process.
What it does is it starts tocreate, it it bleeds too, but it
takes a while, and that blood issap.
And the sap eventually overcomesthat fresh wound from the axe.
Um, and that takes time for thatto happen because nothing's
intervened with it, the bodywill heal and eventually become

(33:21):
stronger as a result if we honorit, listen to it, and first pick
up on the symptoms that are thatoften actually come through our
emotions before they show up inthe physical body.
So if we ignore that in favor ofwhat we need to do next, where
we're taking the kids, theactivities, the the to-do lists,

(33:44):
and everything like that, thatactually impedes healing.
It slows it down.
So when I say in incrementalsteps, it's sometimes a big ask
for uh for people that have beenconditioned to think that
everything needs to happen righthere, right now,
instantaneously.
And especially for our VAT typesthat are that are more built for

(34:08):
speed and moving around all thetime.
That's that can be especiallychallenging for them.
So the answer is in slowing downto improve our body's capacity
to heal long term, not just healfor a little bit and then we get
sick again or we get injuredbecause we aren't getting sleep

(34:29):
because we haven't looked at theroot cause, right?
But is going to require aslowdown process and for us to
come to terms with what isactually important?
What are my foundational needsand how do I honor them?
And how do I make that anon-negotiable and protect the
foundational needs that keep mybody from getting out of balance

(34:51):
in the first place?

SPEAKER_02 (34:54):
So, like you make it sound very simple, right?
Like it sounds like ah, youknow, we need to have a little
bit of patience.
Life will, you know, it'lleventually just kind of fall
into place.
But that's not the reality,right?
Like, I mean, it is the reality,but but like you said, we're
also conditioned to, you know, Iwant an answer, I want a
solution, and I want it rightnow, right?

(35:17):
And that is sometimes the magicpill, right?
Like sometimes it's like justgive me a pill, just give me,
you know, give me the secret,right?
So that tomorrow I'll feelbetter or I'll look better and I
can move on.

SPEAKER_01 (35:32):
Yeah.
Yeah.
But what happens to a person inthat process, then, is I'll just
add on to this, is that weautomatically the next step is
the definition of insanity.
So if we haven't come to termswith, you know, I want this, I
want a pill to solve this, and Iwant it right now.
And it, you're right, it isn't areality for a lot of people.
But then what happens is theyend up moving down another

(35:54):
vicious cycle, is they want itsolved right away.
So they keep doing what they didbefore because they were
conditioned to do that, only tofind themselves spinning their
wheels.
Because if it's working for you,keep doing it.
If you're healing, keep doingit.
But if it's not getting you theresults that you want, and
you're and now you've got thisother disharmony happening, and

(36:14):
another disharmony becauseyou've solved it with a pill,
that's because you haven'thealed the root cause.
And that requires a shift in ourum in our paradigm.
It requires a big change in thatin that aspect.
And a lot of people say, Oh, Ifear change.
Well, your body is alwayschanging, that's what it does.

(36:38):
Um, what's what's happening isyou know, I think because we've
bought into this conditioningthat, you know, if if I can't
heal it right away, then it'snot working, right?
And that's not the case.
Look to nature and how natureheals, and that's where your
answers are, and they alwayshave been.

SPEAKER_02 (37:01):
Yeah, yeah, it's not in a pill of any kind, right?
I mean, some of us need it.
Like, I mean, I know my dad hadheart surgery, he has to take
heart medication, right?
But he probably doesn't, and Idon't even know, like, really,
the the details of thismedication that he takes.
I know that you know the doctorssay, Yeah, you need to take
this, right?
Or your heart will stop.

(37:22):
I don't know what that meansexactly.
And that's that's on me, right?
Like I need to look into that ifI want to know, right?
But at the same time, there's wedon't have to take pills.
We don't have to take pills forevery little you know symptom
that we have.
Sometimes if you sit on it andyou figure out, okay, this is
what's wrong, right?

(37:42):
These are the real symptoms thatare coming that have come along.
You know, what can I do?
What what what else can I dowithout taking?
And like you said, look atnature, right?
What are the symptoms?
How does nature handle that?
And now let me do that, right?
That's kind of the basics ofwhat you're saying.

SPEAKER_01 (38:01):
Yeah, and I mean you can integrate um modern medicine
into the process, it just can'tbe the answer for everything.
Because remember, when we whenwe reduce everything to a pill,
for example, we're underminingnature's intelligence, right?
So we can we can use it in themeantime as something that is

(38:23):
temporary, but if we don'taddress the lifestyle and the
nutrition and all the otherthings that that led to an
imbalance in the first place,then we're we're undermining
what what was what is natural inGod given to us.

SPEAKER_02 (38:40):
Right, right.
Yeah, and it's not, I mean, it'ssounds simple, but you know,
when you have to go back manyyears, like it's it's not easy,
right?
Like it's okay, so maybe that'sthe whole simple but not easy
button, right?
Like it's it's just not an easyswitch often.
And I want to talk a little bitabout organization because
that's one of my passions, andyou and I've had this

(39:02):
conversation.
Now, organization isn't usuallythe first thing people think
about when it comes to Ayurveda.
It was not when you and I hadthe conversation, I was like,
what?
Right?
Like I was totally a little bit,you know, dumbfounded.
Um, but how how would youexplain um in Ayurveda the
wisdom that help women get, youknow, and stay organized and

(39:29):
bought in their bodies and intheir life?

SPEAKER_01 (39:32):
Well, I think it comes down to identifying what
is a priority to you in yourlife and what you value most.
Because when we live out ofalignment with what we with what
we value, that's when we becomedisorganized and unhappy.
Um, so let's go to Maslow'shierarchy for needs.
At the very bottom of thepyramid is our need for um for

(39:54):
uh shelter, um, food, um, water,um, procreation, that's all at
the bottom, right?
So if those needs aren't beingmet, then we've moved up to the
next level of like, oh, I've gotto meet this deadline first
before I take care of myself.
What happens is then you'veskipped the very foundation of

(40:16):
what keeps you in a harmonic orharmonious um state of being.
So when it comes to to becomingorganized, the way that you you
help to structure your day sothat it doesn't feel that it's
so overwhelming and chaotic isthat you look at creating
healthy rituals that thatnourish your foundational needs.

(40:42):
So if you don't know what thatis, then it requires clarity.
Um so and identifying, you know,what is most important to me to
keep me whole so that I can showup a hundred percent of you know
of me rather than giving 50%because I've you know I've I've

(41:05):
directed my attention towardssomething else and become
disorganized, right?
And so there's there's a wholeother field um or arm up
irregularity called Vastu.
And that's you know, when wetalk about like organizing
spaces and closets and you know,garages and things like that,
your environment is very much apart of your or reflection of

(41:28):
your organization and howhealthy your your inner spirit
is as well.
So we start first with withidentifying um what are are our
values?
What do I need to be the kind ofperson that I want to be to show
up first of all for myself andfor others?

(41:48):
Identify those as yourfoundational needs, honor those,
protect them, and create thosehealthy boundaries.
And whatever you do, do notcross the boundaries because
then what happens is that youstart to make other things a
priority over your yourself.
So get that established first,then move on to the next level.

(42:09):
It's sort of like a game, Iguess, if you will.
And do the other things that arenot that have not been
identified as non-negotiablesafter and only after your
non-negotiables have been takencare of.
And then once you start to dothat, then you have a structure.
And if you have a think of it asscaffolding, for example, if you
have that scaffolding for yourday, it allows you to stay in a

(42:33):
state of organization and umattending to what your rituals
are that keep you more umresilient to disharmony.
And when you're in that state ofmind and you practice it day in
and day out with consistency,and remember there's that easy
saying, consistency is key.

(42:54):
It's an easy saying, but it'snot easy to do because we're
we're talking about, you know, aum you're re-educating your body
to look at what its prioritiesare versus what we tend to like,
you know, get distracted with ona regular basis.
So, in terms of us being able tokeep um well organized, and PITA

(43:17):
types are awesome at this, ourfire and water types, that's
their one of their naturalgo-tos, is they love their
to-boot lists, they love goals,they love checking off um items
on the list type thing.
Um, so they're really goodresources to um to get support
from when you're looking tobecome organized yourself,
especially if you're Maravadatype, um, who tend to be more

(43:39):
disorganized when they're out ofbalance.
And especially if you're Kafkatype too, where you have an idea
in mind, but you have a hardtime getting to that and the
motivation isn't quite there,and you need that that little
bit extra fire or push.
Um turn to the different doshasfor that, but organization is
something that's that comesnaturally when you honor your

(44:02):
foundational needs first.

SPEAKER_02 (44:04):
Yeah, I love it.
And I know when you and I hadthe conversation the first time,
I remember thinking, why is shetelling me to organize?
How is that gonna help me getenergy?
Right?
I remember thinking that and I'mthinking, what the hell?
But when I did it, like when yougave me the job, you know, the
little chore, and you said Iwant to see pick pictures before
and after, I was like, thiswoman is crazy, but okay, I'll

(44:27):
do what I gotta do, right?
And after, like so when I tookthe before picture, I was like
still thinking like this youwere crazy, right?
I'll be honest, right?
But as I was doing the project,and the project wasn't big
because I like to keep my thingsorganized, but as I was doing
it, I started to feel better,right?
I started to feel better aboutmy environment, about myself,

(44:49):
about how I was actually likedisciplined to do the, you know,
the recommendation that you gaveme, right?
And then I saw like how it was alike a ripple effect, how it
kind of like you know, itslipped into all the different
areas of my life without evenreally putting any thought into
it.
It was like it made me feelbetter, so I'm gonna do it

(45:10):
again.

SPEAKER_01 (45:11):
Yeah, yeah.
Did that mean that you were I Isay this all the time.
You guys walk right into this,right into this one.
Did that mean that you wereliving light?

SPEAKER_02 (45:21):
Um, yeah, right.
And I guess I mean, you know,and I think, you know, when you
really start to think about thelittle things that you do in
your day, right?
That is what creates thatharmony that we are all looking
for.

SPEAKER_01 (45:37):
You're practicing it.
You're you're doing it, you'recreating that consistency.
And it's not, it's not a magicexercise that you do or a magic
food that comes along becauseeveryone's looking for that and
the superfoods and all that kindof stuff.
It's the consistency in how youchoose to live according to what
you say are your most importantvalues, right?

(46:00):
How we do one thing is how we doall things.
So that practice of organizing,I think it was your pantry at
the time.
The practice of organizing yourpantry is more to do with the
practice itself as opposed tohaving a clean pantry.
Because you practice that andyou actually live it and you
start to embody that, then youcarry that knowledge that you

(46:21):
just gleaned for yourself, andthen you can apply it to how you
would create a peaceful andorganized and lighter day for
yourself as well.
So that's the training grounds,my friend.

SPEAKER_02 (46:33):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
Okay, now I want to know whenfor just in general, our
listeners, what are some simpledaily practices that they can
begin today to start feeling alittle bit lighter and more
aligned?

SPEAKER_01 (46:51):
Your best bet for living more aligned starts in
the morning.
So this is the practice of whatwe call Dinacharya.
So this is healthy dailyroutine.
So if you start your day offthat way, that's actually what
gives you the most successthroughout the day because then
you live your day in the rest ofthat energy.

(47:12):
So your first hour is whenyou're the most at your greatest
potential.
So we call that um the hour ofpower, not Ayurveda's term, um,
but just a term I've I'veadopted over the past few years,
might have come from the 5 a.m.
club, who knows?
Um, but some things that you cando to create that throughout the
day and set the tone for how youlive the rest of the day out,

(47:36):
um, they will begin in themorning.
So, what you can do is uponwaking is have and have a um
warm, salted lime water firstthing to clear out all the gunk
that is accumulated over themeeting, over the over the
evening, the night.
Um so what you're doing isyou're you're going back to the

(48:01):
the root and honoring your whereyour body is when it wakes up.
It's in a state of getting ridof stuff.
That's why you go to thebathroom first thing, um, and
like why you have to pee.
Um, and you're facilitating thatwith a flush and you're helping
to move a lot of that gunk outof the body.
So that's one thing that you cando.

(48:21):
Another thing is throughscraping the tongue.
So that's a process of removingaccumulated toxin or coating
that happens over over thenight.
Um, and so a tongue scraper is adevice that you use to literally
pull the coating off the tongueto create a um, well, to get rid

(48:42):
of any sort of toxic buildupthat has happened, the sludge
that happens overnight.
Um, and then another thing thatyou can do is in terms of
starting your day withintention, is really to set the
tone for the day.
So that's moving your body andbecause it sits, it lays all
night long.

(49:02):
It sort of sits in that energy.
So you move it and you start tolike fire it back up again
because it's slower moving in inthe morning, as we all know.
All the doshas know that.
Um, and then you can move into ameditation or set the intention
for the day.
How am I gonna be, or who do Ineed to be for the day in order

(49:23):
to create um the kind of lifethat I want to live?
What is one thing that I can do?
And pick something that's smalland easy to do, that doesn't
feel daunting.
Um, the smaller the better.
Remember, this is incrementalsteps.
Uh, you can begin the morning inin study as well and learning
more about yourself.
The more you stack that in thatfirst little hour, half hour

(49:49):
even, um, even if you startedwith five minutes of doing one
of those things, you're alreadysetting the course for the rest
of the day to be moresuccessful.

SPEAKER_02 (50:00):
Yeah, and it's not as difficult as it sounds,
right?
I mean, the tongue scraping ispart of like you instead of
brushing your teeth first, youscrape your tongue and then
brush your teeth, right?
I mean, you're already gonnabrush your teeth.
So it's just a matter of gettingyourself a tongue scraper,
sitting it beside yourtoothbrush, and it's there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I have I do have two morequestions.

(50:22):
The first one I'm gonna ask youis how does reclaiming physical
balance open the door toemotional and spiritual clarity?

SPEAKER_01 (50:34):
Can you reword that physical balance?
Like what do you mean by that?

SPEAKER_02 (50:37):
Like actual like so I'm gonna say like I okay, so I
that means like the way I feelin my physical body, right?
The what I'm feeling when I wantto feel more balanced, right?
How how will that open the doorto feeling more emotionally
balanced as well as spiritually?
Or understanding what I'mfeeling emotionally and

(51:00):
spiritually.

SPEAKER_01 (51:01):
So to recognize balance is often balance is
almost romanticized.
It's it when we look at how youcreate um homeostasis in the
body, which is the nerdy termfor basically saying balance um
or more harmony, the the termsthat we use in Ayurveda is

(51:21):
either you're harmonious ordisharmonious.
So when you make choices that umcreate disharmony, then that
creates disharmony physicallyand emotionally within the body.
Um, but you can ask yourself thequestion: is what I'm about to
eat going to bring me moreharmony or less harmony?

(51:42):
It's one or the other.
There's no gray area, right?
And so you start asking yourselfthat those questions or how I'm
behaving in the next moment inresponse to my you know erratic
child, is it gonna create moreharmony or less harmony?
And then your choices willultimately reveal what your
results are, right?
So if you choose a lessharmonious one, then you're
gonna get less harmony, whichwill also impact us emotionally.

(52:05):
There, you can't really separatethe two because they are a
template uh template for one andthe other.
So if you're disharmonious inyour emotions, it's gonna show
up in your body in symptoms, andit sort of works in that order.
Um, so to create that sense ofbalance, and we'll say harmony
in this in this case, it's everydecision that you make, ask

(52:29):
yourself is it bringing mecloser to who I'm becoming and
harmony, or is it is it adisharmonious um decision?
And then go from there and workyour way down the algorithm and
start practicing.
Remember, none of us are expertsat being humans.
This is a giant school, and weare students.

(52:49):
And so every day, you as aparent or you know, a woman
going through the differentphases of your life, and you're
in menopause, for example, thosequestions that we ask ourselves
never stop.
We just get better at answeringthem all the time because it
goes from a space of logicchoices now to second nature,

(53:09):
and then once we've got thatestablished, then it makes us um
it gives us the capacity toreach higher versions of
ourselves, which help keep usfrom going out of balance
physically and emotionally.

SPEAKER_02 (53:24):
Yeah, yeah.
You know what's going through mymind right now is Kendra, don't
take away chocolate, right?
I mean, that's what's goingthrough my mind.
I love chocolate, right?
I mean, you we've had thisdiscussion over like too many
times, I'm gonna say.
But, you know, and that's partof it, right?
Like there, you see thischocolate bar and Halloween just

(53:46):
finished.
We know that, you know, thechocolates were out there.
We all indulge, you know,probably way too much, you know.
But the that is the questionthat we need to be asking
ourselves.
Okay, do we really want thatchocolate?
Yes, my mouth wants thechocolate, my you know, but
maybe even my physical bodywants the chocolate, but is it
really what my body needs?

(54:07):
Right.
And I think that's kind of thequestion that you were sort of
hinting at like, is this gonnabring me harmony or disharmony?
Yeah, it's gonna bring joy to mymouth, right?
For the next minute, maybe twominutes, and then what?
Right?
Then, you know, my ass is gonnabe bigger, you know, I might get
a headache, I might feel, youknow, really tired tomorrow.
Like, you know, when we look atat the whole picture, right?

(54:30):
Two minutes, is it worth the twominutes?

SPEAKER_01 (54:33):
There is no failure if you learn from it, right?
So even if you picked up thattiny little bite-sized mini
coffee crisp that came to yourhouse somehow or that was left
over because thetrick-or-treaters didn't come
and pick it up, and you have itanyway, but you know that it's
going to create disharmony.
If if you can create a learningmoment from that, it's not lost.

(54:56):
You're still moving in the rightdirection because what have you
done?
You've all of a sudden becomemore conscious of the choices
that you're making.
Whereas a year before, theHalloween before, without that
knowledge, you might have justunconsciously ate it and then
been like, oh my God, I'msurrounded by coffee crisp
rappers.
What the hell have I done?
Right.
Now yeah, so now it's all aboutmaking these choices in more of

(55:22):
a conscious framework and beingaccountable for the choices that
we're making, right?
And okay, so I had that littlemini coffee crisp, but you know,
like at the end of the day, thisisn't making excuses, but like
if I had a full-size coffeecrisp and the mini one and I
chose the mini one instead, I'malready making a step in the
right direction because I knowthey're both disharmonious

(55:44):
because what's in them is isgarbage.
It's not nutrition, there's nolife force in those foods.
However, there's a lesson inthat mini coffee crisp right
there.
And if we choose to ignore it,then we will be called to
account again to relearn thatlesson until we get it.

SPEAKER_02 (56:01):
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know.
I that's a that's a questionthat you know you and I discuss
many times, and I always feelthe same way.
Like, why did I even ask her?
But you know, I think it'simportant that we remind
ourselves, right, that this ishow it works, right?
You know, what do you call it?
Failure of the intellect whenyou know better, but you do it

(56:23):
anyway, right?
So that's absolutely you know,we and we're all guilty of it.
Every single human on this earthdoes something that they know is
going to harm them in some way,right?
Some some it's you know reallyserious, and some it's just you
know, it's a simple littlechocolate bar.
But right, that's and we need toremind ourselves in order for us
to feel our very best, we haveto understand what's good for us

(56:45):
and what isn't.

unknown (56:47):
Right?

SPEAKER_02 (56:48):
What brings harmony, what does it exactly?
Yeah, you took the words rightout of my mouth.
Right, exactly.
So my last question.
So our theme is you know, end ofthe this year, 2026 is coming to
an end.
And we're now beginning of mefor the new year.
I want to know.
So Ayurveda doesn't see likeDecember 31st as the end of the

(57:09):
year.
It's just like you said, asystem.
It's just a like it's more of anorganization system more than it
is anything else, right?
Just to keep everybody on thesame, you know, page so that
we're all working on the samedate.
What is Ayurveda's um take onthe whole new year thing?

(57:30):
Like we, you know, many of usset you know new goals and
intentions for the coming year.
What is Ayurveda's take on that?

SPEAKER_01 (57:38):
There is no beginning and an end.
So we tend to think of January1st as the beginning and then
December 31st as the end of2025.
Now, when we look at time, it'sit's this idea of um the way
Ayurveda sees this is that it'sthe continuation of an energy

(58:01):
and we move into differentseasons, and that doesn't start
on January 1st and end onDecember 31st.
That's not nature.
That is that has beensystematized, that is a human
paradigm that was put in placeto create order and structure in
society and for whatever otherreason, right?
So when we look at coming to theclose of 2025, we it's not

(58:28):
actually closing, it never hasclosed, it's all an example of
energy and 2025 are numbers,right?
So um we can look at it in interms of seasons, right?
And so if we go back to thebuilding blocks of nature, that

(58:49):
comes down to the natural flowof how things have always been,
how they are and how they alwayswill be.
Um, and nature will always win,right?
And and the the wisdom of naturewill win.
So when we move into thoughts ofseasons, that extends beyond
December 31st.
So it doesn't end at that point.

(59:10):
We look at the different seasonsin terms of their doshas.
So right now we're in we're invada season, or what we call the
fall moving into winter becausewe've got some snow happening
here in Canada.
And then we go into um earlywinter and then late winter, and
then we go into early spring,late spring, early summer, um,

(59:31):
late summer, and we fluctuatethroughout, and that's a like a
continuous infinity, if youwill, neither created nor
destroyed because it is justenergy.
So when we look at the new me,like uh it's uh January 1st,
it's like new year, new you.
That's actually fundamentallyincorrect.

(59:51):
Um, and it's just based on theon the system.
Every day that you wake up is anew opportunity to become a
newer.
Version of who you are.
So that is your new year.
Your new year is your new day.
In fact, the moment that we'redone, you know, this podcast,
for example, after that is thenew moment that we move into.

(01:00:14):
It's a succession of moments andit doesn't have a beginning or
end.
So when Ayurveda looks at that,is how do we transition, you
know, seamlessly from one seasonto another?
Well, as we move into fall, wesay goodbye and to and and
release the fun season of thesummer, the summer being fire

(01:00:36):
and water, and we release thatand we start to move into what
are the qualities of the fall?
Okay, things are getting cooler,it's getting raw, it's getting
cold, it's getting dry.
So we move into that season.
And then if we have theknowledge of Ayurveda at our
backs, it teaches us that likeattracts like.
So we're going to be more likelyto experience imbalances of

(01:00:56):
light, dry, and cold in thatseason.
Ah, but something that we weretalking about earlier on that we
never got to talk about in termsof the solution is in the
opposite.
So the solution is in theopposite quality.
For dry, we have um we havemoisture.
For light, we have heavy.
So if we look at those, forchaotic and frenetic and mobile

(01:01:19):
energy, we have stagnancy, wehave calm, we have peace.
So we look to bring in thosequalities in the season.
So we're in the fall season,we're moving into the winter
season.
We create that harmony and thatthat center, that balance by
bringing in those oppositequalities.
And that's gonna shift and movein past December into January in

(01:01:42):
nature, in the natural cycle, inthe order of things.
This is natural law we're goingback to.
Um and so the new year, new youis misleading, I guess, for lack
of better terms.
It's who am I going to decide tobe in harmony with myself in

(01:02:04):
this next moment?
And so if people want to putthis more practically, it's in
terms of making those shiftslong term and making them
sustainable, is who does Kendrawant to be today and in the
fall, uh, November 12th, 2025,and every successive moment that

(01:02:26):
moves moves along.
So we can practice that on adaily basis by acknowledging
what is true, what is do we knowto be true around us right now?
So if you're looking at shiftingthat paradigm and making it more
natural, why not start with theseason?
What is the season that I'm in?

(01:02:46):
And what is the truth about theseason that I'm in?
And who am I in the season?
We're different in the summerthan we are in the fall and the
winter and the spring.
So, how do I start making thoseshifts?
Once what's one small thing thatI can do to create the new
version of me in the next momentor in this season.
And then give yourself gracebecause you're a student.

SPEAKER_02 (01:03:08):
Yeah.
And and with that, we know, Imean, you know, of course, that
you know, with every season,there's not, it's not just one,
it's not just one thing thatwe're changing.
We're changing our the food thatwe're eating, we're changing the
activities that we're doing,right?
And it's learning all thisstuff.
Like you're not gonna do it allat once, you're gonna do it

(01:03:29):
slowly, right?
And if it's one thing at a time,right, then it might be one food
and it might be one activity, itmight, you know, like that's and
I and I mean I love all thisstuff.
I love learning all this stuffbecause it's just so I mean it's
real, but it's also like youcan't unknow what you know,

(01:03:50):
yeah, right.
We we follow like you know, thesystem, but uh when we learn all
this stuff, we're like, how didwe not know this?
Right?
Like it's kind of right there infront of us, right?
And we just we have been sotrained, like you said, to
almost ignore that.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:08):
Yeah, it's moving from unconscious conditioning to
now I'm taking accountabilityfor my experience and I'm
creating my reality in aconsciousness, not an
unconscious teaching from somesystem that is outdated and not
working for us at all as aspecies.
Right.
So, in order to be able to dothat, we have to be at a point

(01:04:30):
where we're ready to takeaccountability and we're ready
to commit to ourselves.
And when we come to that point,that's when we'll be able to
really experience the fruits ofwhat we're of the choices that
we're making every single day.

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:46):
Right.
I love it.
I love it.
Well, I want all of ourlisteners and I want well,
really, everybody I know to comework with you.
Um, I want you to share with us,you know, you have a membership,
you have um the Happy Body Club,right?
I want you to explain that alittle bit and any offers that
you have that you can offer toour listeners.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:07):
Okay, so um I recently started a membership.
I've been at this for 10 yearsnow, Living Life Iurvita just
celebrated its 10-year umanniversary.
And in the past year, I came toa realization that I think in
order to be able to reach morepeople and serve more people,
was through um through communityand through group uh coaching,

(01:05:29):
as opposed to the one-on-onework I was doing with
individuals, which is how I metyou.
Um so I started the Happy BodyClub, and that came from a
series of different events thatI was doing, retreats and
masterclasses and even summitunder the same name.
That I'm like, what do peoplewant more of a happy body?
How do we get it in community?

(01:05:50):
Um, and with other other peoplethat want similar things for
their body.
They they want to live lighter,they want to be free, sovereign
beings that are healingthemselves.
Um, so really, you know, there'slots of wonderful features to
the club that help facilitatethat.
But more than anything, thebenefits of being in a community

(01:06:12):
are not only to have exclusiveresources that you wouldn't get,
but it also eliminates a lot ofthe confusion of where you might
be putting a bunch ofinformation together from
Facebook and from Google andfrom podcasts and things like
that.
Whereas this community serves toum to offer the resources for
you to be able to curate it andmake it make sense for you

(01:06:34):
rather than take blanket um, youknow, resources and try and
piece it together without evenknowing how to do that.
Um, so it's it's nice in thatrespect.
Um also that you're held toaccount as well, because there's
other members that are eitherlike they're they're
experiencing their own successesand their own challenges.

(01:06:56):
And when you're part of acommunity, you're by by default
asked to step up to the plateand become more accountable for
your health.
Um, and so we have we haveprocesses in there that that
facilitate that for you.
Um and I think just being ableto practice that on a regular

(01:07:16):
basis and having that access24-7 through membership is is a
a tool that not many know evenexists, right?
And so um so with thismembership and being able to
heal in in a group and do liveclasses together as well, that's
humongous because we can we canoffer um you know our

(01:07:43):
perspective as as fellowstudents, and then I can offer
guidance as as the teacher.
Um, and so we're alwayslearning, um, but making things
make sense for us and takingwhat is most valuable for us out
of that based on that experienceand based on how we feel around
other members as well.

(01:08:03):
Um, cool that we have access tolike food and eating resources
there too.
We've got an online cookingclass that we do once a month,
um, which again creates anotherlevel of experience and adds a
lot more value to the experiencerather than just going on
Pinterest and finding anAyurvedic recipe, we can figure

(01:08:24):
out ways to apply it as well.
Um, so for people that watch thepodcast, watch andor listen to
it, um, so I'm gonna extend theoffer to you as well.
Uh it's a three months at$10 offour very affordable rate.
We have it's$49 a month.
Um, but for you, if you'relistening to this podcast, um,

(01:08:46):
there is a link and a code thatwill be put in the show notes
for for you to be able to enjoyit at a gift of$10 off for the
next three months of membership.
Something tells me that you maywant to be a part of it for a
little bit longer, but we'lljust start with that, right?
Um yeah, so that's one of myoffers.

(01:09:09):
And I believe one of the otheroffers is is um, you'll see that
in in the in the show notes aswell.
But if you're looking at gettingclarity, um start with an
assessment.
That's what we do, and thenthat's how we figure out what
your your body types are, whichleads to your your um capacity
to live in better harmony.

SPEAKER_02 (01:09:28):
I love it.
Thank you so much.
I want, like I said, I want allour listeners to reach out to
you because I think I havelearned so much about my body.
And, you know, I'll be honest, Ithink a little bit more about
nature, right?
And how it how it relates towhat my body is doing.
You know, the last five yearshas been completely eye-opening

(01:09:49):
for me as far as my own health,right?
And I want everyone toexperience that.
I want people to realize that,you know, it's all within us.
We just have to be open tolearning it and realizing it.
And of course, with your help,because you have such an awesome
way of explaining everything.
I, you know, you and I arealways okay, we need to cut this

(01:10:11):
short.
We've been chatting for a reallylong time now.
So yeah, and yeah, and I I'myeah, I love talking with you,
so it doesn't matter.
But thank you so much forjoining me today.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:22):
It's been my pleasure.
Um, couldn't think of a betterway to spend an hour in great
conversation with you.

SPEAKER_02 (01:10:29):
Oh, thank you.
Thank you so much.
Thank you so much for joining meand Kendra today.
Uh confidence in Bloom is uh itis definitely something that I
am truly enjoying.
I hope today's conversationreminded you that you're not
alone on this journey and thatyour confidence grows every time
you tell that itty bitty shittycommittee to hush.

(01:10:50):
If you're ready to take thiseven deeper, I'd love to invite
you to the Bloom Room, anurturing community where women
come together to releaseself-doubt, reconnect with
themselves, and bloom into thetruest version of who they're
meant to be.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:04):
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