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SPEAKER_02 (00:31):
Welcome to
Confidence in Bloom, the podcast
that reminds you that confidenceisn't about becoming someone
new.
It's about coming home toyourself.
I'm your host, Tina Spolotini,and this season we're embracing
the theme End of Year, Beginningof Me.
A time to pause, reflect, andlet go of what no longer serves
you.
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Together we'll explore realstories and soulful insights to
help you quiet that itty bittyshitty committee, release the
shoulds that weigh you down, andstep into the new year grounded
in self-love, clarity, andconfidence.
Let's begin today'sconversation.
Today I'm chatting withCassandra White, a woman who
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believes that your pain haspurpose.
She believes that God has giveneveryone a unique gift to be
shared.
Her mission is to help peoplerealize that they don't have to
stay stuck in that broken placein life.
They can rise from anything withGod.
Welcome, Cassandra.
Thank you.
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I'm so glad to be here.
Thank you.
I'm so excited to have you ontoday.
Um, now I would like to startwith, I would like you to
explain, um, or not to explain,but you know, tell us a little
bit more about you and who youare.
SPEAKER_01 (01:48):
Yeah, so my name is
Cassandra White, and I am an
inspire coach.
I love to inspire people.
Um, mainly my focus is women,but I love to inspire everybody,
honestly, men and women.
Um, and basically, I have made amasterclass.
Um, it's called the Heal andGlow two-part series
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masterclass, um, that isbasically aims to help women to
heal and glow and walk in thatpurpose.
And I have been through a lot oftrauma and pain and different
situations in my life.
And so that is what brought meto this place of wanting to help
other women because I overcameand I want to help other women
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overcome too.
And I believe that uh your painhas purpose.
Um, that's not where you have tostay stuck at.
You can grow from there, andthat's where God actually molds
you, is when you are in thatpain place of your life.
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (02:45):
I yeah, I I think
what I'm getting, so I've seen a
quote on Facebook often thatsays something like, you're not
responsible for you know thetrauma that you've lived, but
you are responsible for gettingyourself out, right?
Yeah, to that effect, yeah.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
And and I mean, I mean, we'regonna have this conversation.
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I mean, we all know that.
I mean, okay, so I I considermyself, you know, fairly
religious.
I believe in God.
I'm Catholic, and our listenershave heard me say that, you
know, over and over again.
And and what I am learning inmy, I guess in my later, I don't
want to call myself old, but inmy, you know, my older adult
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years, I'm not old, old, butI've I've raised all my kids,
right?
Like I'm I'm starting a chapterin my life where I can look back
and go, where have I gone?
Like, what have I done?
And when I do that, there are somany signs that I see that God
has been there, God has led meto where I am, and you know,
whether we want to admit it ornot, or embrace it for that
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matter, right?
It is we are all in a like we'reall in the place that we're we
are right now, we are meant tobe here, just like we were meant
to be everywhere we have been,right?
With that, yeah, yes, ma'am.
SPEAKER_01 (04:06):
I totally agree with
that.
Um, just to mention about whatyou said, you were talking about
God.
So um that is my source, um, ismy Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
He's the one who inspired me towant to do this and to want to
help other women.
Um, so yeah, most definitely.
Oh my goodness, he has a purposein our lives.
Exactly.
You know, no matter what we gothrough, good or bad, it all
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serves a purpose and it's forour good.
Um, so yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (04:33):
Yeah.
So tell me um, why do people getstuck in in that place in their
life?
So I'm I don't know that I wouldalways call it a broken place
because I don't believe that weare broken.
I, you know, there are timeswhere we feel broken absolutely,
but I I kind of believe thatit's more of a this is a time
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for us to sit, reflect, andlearn at why we're here, how we
got here.
How like why would you how orhow would you explain that, you
know, how why people get stuckthere?
SPEAKER_01 (05:05):
I feel that people
get stuck there because they
lose their self-confidence.
And I'm talking for myselfbecause that's how I felt.
Um, you know, I felt stuck, Ifelt complacent in in that
place, and I didn't feel worthyof having more because I lost my
self-confidence when I wentthrough all these things, and it
made me, it made me uh lose myidentity and all of that.
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So um, speaking from my own lifeexperience, that's what caused
me to be stuck there for awhile.
Um, because I lost myself-confidence.
I didn't believe in myselfanymore.
So, I mean, if you're not aroundpeople who are inspiring you,
uplifting you, you willdefinitely get stuck.
Um, and that's where I come inat because I want to help women
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to know that they don't have tostay there.
Um, they can move from there,they can, they can rise from
there.
You know, that's not theirdestiny, that's not what defines
them.
That's just a part of theirjourney where it's taking them
to where they need to be.
So that's the that's the mainreason I feel like a lot of
people get stuck because loss ofself-confidence and loss of
identity.
SPEAKER_02 (06:10):
Yeah, I mean, I
don't love, yeah, I said I love
that.
I don't really love that peopleare self-confidence.
Right, right.
I'm definitely not.
I know what you mean.
But I love that that's kind of Imean, that's kind of where it
starts, right?
Because when we lose ourself-confidence, we also lose
our belief in ourselves.
We believe the trust we have inourselves.
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And if we can't trust ourselves,we won't trust anyone else.
That's right.
That's right.
You know, we might look tosomeone else and say, you know,
you know, help me get out ofhere, or what do I do now?
But even with their suggestions,you're going to doubt that,
right?
Yes, and so we need to like, Imean, we all know confidence is
that muscle that we have to growevery single day or we lose it.
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My mom used to always say to me,use it or lose it.
Right.
Yes.
And I used to say, Oh, thatdoesn't make any sense.
But now, of course, you know, asI've raised my kids and I've,
you know, gone through life, Iget it, right?
If you don't use it, it's everyskill, right?
Every skill we don't use, wetend to forget.
Yes, totally.
Yeah.
As we're approaching the end of2025, can you believe how fast
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this year has gone?
What comes up for you when youreflect on how God has moved
your life uh over the past 12months?
SPEAKER_01 (07:26):
So basically, now
that I have gotten rid of all of
the toxic things in my life fromrelationships to wrong mindsets,
environments, I can now be thewoman God has created me to be
and the woman I always knew deepdown inside that I was.
So, in summary, the message thatI'm holding for this woman now
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is it's time to live out yourdreams and enjoy all of the new
that your future holds.
Um, you have felt pain, you havefelt what pain feels like long
enough.
Now it's time to see what joyfeels like.
So that is the message that I'mgiving myself as a move for
love.
SPEAKER_02 (08:06):
Yes, that is, you
know, that's great.
And I, you know, I think thatyou know that's something that
we should all sort of sit down,take some time, sit down and
sort of send yourself a message,right?
Like what do you want now?
What do you what do you reallyfeel like having in your world?
Right?
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That is real, that's a reallygood one.
So what what what was one ofyour shoulds or expectations
that you released over this lastyear?
And how did it shift your senseof peace or purpose?
SPEAKER_01 (08:41):
Yeah, so um, so
basically what that would be is
um one of my expectations that Ireleased over the year.
All right, so that would be umbasically the expectation of
looking to others for myhappiness.
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Um, this shifted my peacebecause it caused me to look
within for my joy and happiness.
And I found that's where it'sbeen all along.
So by doing this, I found apeace that is my own and a peace
that I didn't have to worrywhether or not it would last
because it belonged to me.
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And that is the greatest joythat I could have ever known.
Um not having not wanting orhaving to look for others for my
peace and happiness.
I now have found my own's andnow, you know, it's just
awesome.
It feels awesome because it's myown.
SPEAKER_02 (09:38):
Yeah, and that that
really takes like work, right?
It really sounds kind of almostridiculous to find your own joy,
but I think we get so caught upin what the world is doing and
what everyone else is doing thatwe forget who we are and what
sets us up, right?
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So yeah, that's that's reallygood that you've taken that time
to really, you know, reallyreflect and and what's the word
I'm looking for?
Sort of make yourself a planwith that.
I love that.
SPEAKER_01 (10:13):
Yes, yes.
SPEAKER_02 (10:14):
Now often you talk
about rising from pain.
How do you personally recognizewhen God is asking you to let go
of something, whether it's somelike a mindset, a goal, or a
relationship, or even just asmall, tiny habit?
SPEAKER_01 (10:30):
Yeah, so so I
recognize that God is telling me
to let go of something by Godgiving me a sense of
uncomfortable.
Like no matter what I try to do,I'm still left with this feeling
of something just not sittingright in my spirit.
So basically, um, like a burdenof heaviness that weighs on me,
and until I release it, itweighs heavy on me.
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So I know that this is Godtelling me it's time to let go
of something.
That's how I know.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (10:58):
Yeah.
That's that's good because Goddoesn't always talk to us in
words, right?
Like sometimes there's justlittle signs or little pictures
that are around us that we haveto like, you know, we we have to
be like open, open to see it,right?
Yes, ma'am.
Yes, yeah, because sometimes itcan be like a brick that hits
you in the head and you're like,What?
What did I do?
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Right?
That is true.
Oh, that's too funny.
So you say you said earlier, andit was in your bio that I read
that you believe our pain haspurpose.
I'd like you to share with us amoment when that truth became
super clear for you and how itdeepened your faith.
SPEAKER_01 (11:39):
Yeah, so um
basically one day when I was at
home, I just had this epiphany,I guess you could say, um, that
came over me.
And I thought to myself that Ihave, you know, a loving God who
loves me so much that he senthis own son to die for my sins.
Then why in the world would Ijust go through all of this pain
and hurt and trauma and it'd befor nothing?
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You know, so then I um I posteda video on one of my YouTube
channels and I titled it, YourBrokenness Doesn't Define You.
Um, because when I had thismoment of truth, that was a
place of brokenness that I wasin, and I refused to let that be
who I saw myself as.
Um, then that video was bornthat I posted.
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So basically, you know, I justwas feeling to myself one day,
like, oh my goodness, I just Ijust feel so down on myself.
But I'm like, you know, it hasto be, this cannot be it.
You know, this is not who I amthough.
This is just what I'm goingthrough, but it doesn't define
me.
So um that's that was my momentof knowing, okay, my pain has
purpose.
It's not just random, it's notjust vain.
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Um, there's more to it because Ihave a loving God.
So, you know, there's more tothis.
SPEAKER_02 (12:47):
Yeah, you know,
that's so true.
I used to say, so I had twins.
My first, you know, my firstpregnancy was twins.
And I remember people saying tome, How do you keep yourself so
organized?
Right.
And I used to always say, Godwill only give me what I can
handle.
Yes.
And you know, like there weredays where I was like, you know,
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pulling my hair out because Ididn't know how to handle the
day.
But I mean, truth be told, itwas to me, it was all about
planning.
Yeah, but I also really believedthat God will only give me what
I can handle, right?
Because I had a second one and Iwas terrified.
I'm like, I said to the doctor,I will not come into the office
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unless you can guarantee this isnot twins, right?
Right.
He was like, there is noguarantee I can give you.
And I'm like, I can't, I cannotbring myself to your office
because I can't go through itagain.
unknown (13:46):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (13:46):
But the reality is,
you know, as I said, like I if I
would have been given twinsagain, I would have managed
because I knew I know now that Icould have, right?
Right.
But at the time, I'm like, Idon't know that I can.
I already have two, right?
Right.
You know, I I do believe thatyou know God God will only give
us what we can handle.
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He knows us, he knows us betterthan we know ourselves, right?
Yes, right, he does.
Absolutely.
So when you your itty bittyshitty committee gets loud, what
helps you quiet the noise andreconnect with God's voice of
truth?
SPEAKER_01 (14:24):
Yeah, so basically,
um getting somewhere alone with
just me and God, you know,whether I take a walk and talk
to God or go in my prayer closetat home, as long as I'm alone,
I'm able to quiet the noise ofthe lies and reconnect with the
truth, which is Jesus Christwho's in me.
So it's just getting in a quietplace with me.
That that helps me to just getmy thoughts back into a positive
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place and like okay.
SPEAKER_02 (14:50):
I love that.
Excuse me.
You have you have a prayercloset?
Is that what you called it?
SPEAKER_01 (14:57):
Yes, ma'am, I do.
SPEAKER_02 (14:59):
I want to know more
about that.
SPEAKER_01 (15:00):
Okay, sure.
So basically, um, in scripture,you know, it tells us to go in
our prayer closet and pray um insecret, and God will bless us um
openly.
So I I made myself a prayercloset.
Basically, it's my closet in myhome, in my room, and I go in
there and I shut my door and Iget to talking to God.
And it's just me and Him.
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I have my Bible.
Sometimes I have I might have mybook and my pen.
But yeah, I just go in there andshut my door.
Um, that's my prayer closet.
SPEAKER_02 (15:30):
I'm like, I've never
I've never heard that term
before.
I mean, I've heard you know,like that's my quiet space, or
that's my, you know, lots ofpeople call it an altar.
I don't really like that word,right?
I believe that the altar belongsin the church, but at the same
time, like it's like we all haveto find our way, right?
To go within, right?
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And whether that is, you know,like you said, with a notebook
and a pen or with your Bible, oreven maybe just you know, some
quiet music, whatever that is,you have to do it where you feel
that's safe, is the word, right?
And and also a place where youknow that you can, I don't I
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don't want to say vulnerablebecause I don't think that's
really the word I'm looking for.
I think it's more maybe you canhelp me with this.
It's more about safety isconnected, yeah.
Yes, right, yeah, somewherewhere you can actually feel that
connection and feel that placeto you know really let out your
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thoughts and allow new thoughtsin, right?
SPEAKER_01 (16:35):
Yes, oh I really
like that, I really like that,
and yeah, and like you said,it's different for everyone
because we're all different, sowhat works for me might be
different for somebody else,exactly.
As long as it works for you,that's all that matters.
That's right.
SPEAKER_02 (16:49):
I you know it's
funny because I set myself up in
a basement in our basement, um,and I set up this room.
I had, you know, I had a littlebit of exercise space, but I had
like this beautiful chair, andyou know, I had some candles and
I had an air diffuse, like I hadall I had it set up for me.
Right.
And I was like, I said to mykids, I at the time it was just
my two boys at home, and I said,That's my space now.
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You guys are big, you have therest of the basement.
That is my space.
I know that's right.
Yeah, right.
And they were like, Yeah, okay,mom.
And then when COVID hit, right,they my younger son needed a
place where he could go to bealone and sort of let out his
frustrations becauseunfortunately he had a lot of
stuff going on in his head.
He bought himself a like one ofthose punching bags and some
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hockey gear, and he went downand he destroyed my room.
I mean his own little you know,revenge place.
I don't know what you would callit.
So I lost my space.
I was like, what the heck?
What yeah, you know, so I'm I'mI'm still in the verge, you
know, on the verge of creatingthat space again because I have,
I mean, I have a big house.
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It's not that I don't have thespace, I just I can't, it seems
like I can't compare to thatanymore.
So I I feel you know, but I likethe whole prayer closet.
Like that's I mean, I have lotsof closets.
Maybe I'll just go sit in thecloset.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_01 (18:09):
Hey, that works for
you.
SPEAKER_02 (18:10):
Hey, do it right
exactly, exactly.
So tell me, what does groundedconfidence mean to you now?
And how does it, how does yourfaith anchor that confidence?
SPEAKER_01 (18:20):
So, grounded
confidence means to believe in
yourself no matter what thecircumstances are, and to not
let your circumstances dictatewho you are and what you can and
cannot do.
Because whatever you're goingthrough, it is shaping you, not
breaking you.
And my faith in Jesus, my Lordand Savior, is my anchor to this
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confidence because he tells mein Jeremiah 29:11 that his plans
for me are good and to and hisplans is to give me an expected
end.
So it doesn't matter what mycircumstances look like, I can
lean on my faith in Jesus as myanchor and know that it is
always good.
SPEAKER_02 (19:01):
Ooh, that's good.
Yeah, it is really good.
As you're looking ahead to 2026,and I still can't believe we're
going there.
Um what intention or message areyou holding for the woman who's
ready to rise and begin againwith God?
SPEAKER_01 (19:18):
Basically, the
message that I got for myself is
that hey, you have felt whatpain feels like long enough.
Now it's time to see what joyfeels like.
It is your time to rise andshine.
SPEAKER_02 (19:31):
I love that, right?
Because that, well, there is somuch truth to that, you know,
short sentence.
You have been in pain longenough, right?
It is now your time.
I love that.
I absolutely love that.
Um, oh, your masterclass.
I wanted to know now.
You kind of explained yourmasterclass at the beginning,
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but I want to know more.
Um, like how what does yourmasterclass really entail?
Like what you know, what what amI gonna learn from your
masterclass when I join it?
SPEAKER_01 (20:03):
So basically, you're
going to learn how to heal and
how to um regain yourself-confidence.
It's a two-part seriesmasterclass.
It's two recorded Zoompresentations, pre-recorded Zoom
presentations, and it's twoparts to it.
And you're gonna learn how toheal and how to walk in your
power, walk in your purpose.
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Um, I have worksheets in there,a lot of free things in there
that will help you and you know,along your way of rebuilding
your self-confidence.
It is awesome.
It has a lot, so many differentresources in there, and like I
said, it's a two-part seriesmasterclass.
Excellent.
Love it.
SPEAKER_02 (20:43):
Now I want to ask
you so that our listeners are
clear on this.
Is it going to be like um a lotof God and being present with
God?
Like someone who's like, I'mjust wondering if it's someone
who you know is interested indoing the healing, but not
necessarily, you know, not thatI don't want them to like not
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follow God, but yes, ma'am.
It like, do you talk aboutconnecting with God a lot in
this masterclass?
SPEAKER_01 (21:12):
No, but it is in
there, but this masterclass is
for anyone.
Um, it's for anyone, it's forall walks of life.
Um, but it I do mention God inthere, but the entire
presentation no is not solelyabout God.
Um, but He is in there.
Um, like I said, but this isbasically um it's very open to
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anyone who is looking to keepit.
Thank you.
Yeah, thank you for that.
SPEAKER_02 (21:37):
You're welcome.
Yeah, I feel like that's youknow, I mean, we all like you
said, I mean, we've we've allbeen in pain to some degree.
Some of us have gone throughsome major trauma, some of us
not so much, but we all havepain, whether it's you know,
because of we're changingchapters in our life or
something has happened, right?
Yes is pain, and we don't wedon't have to live in it.
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God doesn't want us to be inpain, He wants us to be happy,
right?
He wants us to find joy, yes,yes, yeah.
So thank you so much for that.
Is there anything else you wouldlike to tell our listeners
today?
SPEAKER_01 (22:15):
Um, I just want to
say that, you know, I was once
in that same place where I feltlike you know there was no hope,
but just remember that there isalways hope.
Um, every day that you wake upand you have breath in your
body, there is always hope.
SPEAKER_02 (22:29):
Absolutely.
Every day is a new day.
Thank you so much for joining metoday, Cassandra.
This has been awesome.
Thanks for having me.
Yes.
Thank you so much.
SPEAKER_01 (22:38):
Yes, it was.
SPEAKER_02 (22:39):
Thank you for tuning
in to Confidence in Bloom.
I hope today's conversationreminded you that you're not
alone on this journey and thatyour confidence grows every time
you tell that itty bitty shittycommittee to hush.
If you're ready to take thiseven deeper, I'd love to invite
you to the Bloom Room, anurturing community where women
come together to releaseself-doubt, reconnect with
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themselves, and bloom into thetruest version of who they're
meant to be.
You'll find the link in the shownotes, and I can't wait to
welcome you inside.
SPEAKER_00 (23:08):
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