May 20, 2025 • 33 mins
What happens when women finally stop settling for what's left over at the end of the day? Jo Dibblee, breakthrough expert and eternal optimist, takes us on a powerful journey of self-discovery in this transformative conversation about unleashing your true purpose.
From her own remarkable path—growing up without food, running water or electricity to becoming an award-winning author and global change catalyst—Jo reveals why so many women struggle to identify and embrace their unique gifts. "Women in particular are taught community first and self-service last," she explains, highlighting how this conditioning leads us to believe that prioritizing ourselves is somehow selfish.
The contrast between generations becomes strikingly clear as both Jo and host Teresa Sims reflect on their delayed "coming of age" in their fifties, while acknowledging how younger women seem more comfortable prioritizing self-care earlier. This generational shift opens fascinating possibilities for mutual learning and growth across age groups.
Perhaps most powerful is Jo's transformative concept of "standing on your story instead of in it"—a distinction that has helped countless women turn painful experiences into platforms for positive change. As Teresa shares, this simple perspective shift helped her process trauma and speak openly about difficult experiences without being controlled by them.
The conversation offers practical wisdom too, including why your "sum of five" closest associates should challenge rather than merely support you, and why relying on family for business guidance often backfires. Jo's insights on building effective mastermind communities provide a roadmap for anyone seeking accountability and growth.
Whether you're just beginning your entrepreneurial journey or looking to expand your impact, this episode delivers the rare combination of deep wisdom and practical guidance. Connect with Jo through the links in our show notes and discover how you might be the key that opens the door for others waiting to hear exactly what you have to share.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
No problem.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hi and welcome to Powering Through Life.
I'm your host, teresa Sims, andmy mission is to share with you
the wide range of strategiesthat people use, discovered and
have adopted to power throughtheir lives when difficult
things happen.
Today, my very incredible guestis Jo Dibley, and Jo is a
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breakthrough expert, eternaloptimist and change catalyst,
but most of all, she's dedicatedto helping women entrepreneurs
live their legacy and sharetheir message of talents in the
world.
Jo, welcome to Powering ThroughLife.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Oh well, welcome, welcome, welcome.
I'm so excited, thank you.
I feel like I'm stepping into alovely, warm path to just
connect with others of like mind.
There's nothing more that Ilove than to be with others that
are doing the work of changeand helping others rise up.
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It's just an honor to be here,so thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Oh, thanks, and I have experienced how you are a
change catalyst and I think it'san incredible journey that
you're on and you are changinglives, and I happen to have
first-hand experience at thatwith you.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Oh, thank you.
Well, you know, the work thatyou're doing is phenomenal and I
think, like attracts, like Imean, I don't think that I know
that we are all drawn to eachother when we are on this path
or on this journey.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Right.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
It's very much the law of attraction, isn't it
Totally?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, so today I know that you wanted to discuss
unleashing you and your purpose.
So, jo, what does that mean toyou?
How would you?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
describe that.
You know, over these last fiveand a half years, when I
launched our company, prokof,what I started to see more and
more.
I guess I'd been seeing itsince 2001.
I left Corporate Canada in 2001and I had launched my own
business or had gone intobusiness a different business
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than what I do now but what Isaw in women was this taking
what was left meaning settlingfor what was left over.
At the end of the day, women inparticular give to the point of
exhaustion.
I'm not saying every woman, soI don't want to paint everyone
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with the same brush, but I willsay that women in particular are
taught community first andself-service last, and what that
ends up meaning that we've beentaught that to take care of
self first looks and feelsselfish, although it's not
because we've also been taughtthat if you want to fill
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another's cup, you have to fillyours first.
Now, if you don't know whatyour purpose is, how do you do
that?
How do you unleash you when youdon't actually know what your
purpose is?
Mark Twain has a great sayingand many of you listening will
know this that the two mostimportant days in our lives are
the day that you were born andthe day you know why.
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The day you know why for memeans the day you know your
purpose in life.
Now again, how do you know whatit is you are to do and how do
you do that and how do youunleash that?
When you're so busy fillinganother's purpose and you're not
filling your own, we can oftenunderstand and get behind
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somebody else's purpose, butwhen we have to turn our focus
inward and focus on ourselves,there's somewhat of a disconnect
in our society and where wewill step back and say, well,
what does that look like and howwill I be perceived?
And that is why I think it's soimportant for us today and I do
think our society is shifting,but there's still a little bit,
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and maybe it's age or ageismbefore I say this, but maybe
there's a perception, because Inoticed that some of the younger
generations and I'm datingmyself right now, I'm 57, so,
before I continue on as a57-year-old woman, what I'm
noticing that millennials are alittle bit better at saying you
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know what?
I need to practice a little bitmore self-care so that I can
identify and take care of myself, so that I can serve others.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I would agree with you.
I you know personally as well.
I'm slightly a bit older thanyou today actually, so I can
understand that.
You know, when we were broughtup, it was more about becoming
wives and mothers, and doing foreverybody else.
And then there's elder care andall those other things that we
had heaped on our shoulders.
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That you know.
I know for myself I wasn't evenon the list, let alone being at
the bottom of the list, untilyou know.
It took me in my 50s to figureout.
Wait a minute.
I need to be top of that listbecause I can't give to anybody
else if I have an empty tank.
Yeah exactly?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
And isn't that almost the coming of age for our
generation is really when we'rehitting our 50s, whereas I'm
seeing it in younger generationsthat it's 30s and maybe even
younger where they're coming ofage saying whoa, wait a minute,
if I am to do what I am to do inthis world in my lifetime, I
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need to figure that out soonerwhereas for us I love what you
said.
Where was I on that list?
Was I even on that list?
Because you and I heard aboutthe sandwich.
We were the sandwich generation.
It was expected, it wasrequired, it was not a if.
Then you were told this is howit was, and so you know to be
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the good girl, the nice girl,the girl next door this is how
it was, anything else was seenas, dare I say, the B word right
, I didn't say it, but we bothknow what I'm talking about.
It wasn't the beautiful wordeither, it was the B word with a
capital B, and we were seen asaggressive and self-serving.
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And so how did we fit time todo that?
And if you were a mother andthe b word, oh my goodness, what
did that say about us?
Right?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
so very different, very different, you know yeah
and I think we could take a goodlesson from the younger
generation to learn you know howhow they go about setting this
process of of finding thepurpose and standing up for
themselves versus.
You know they can also learnfrom us, so I think it's a
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mutual thing.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Totally.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I think conversation is really important to have with
those younger generations.
And, yeah, move on with whatour purpose is now.
So how would you go aboutfinding what your purpose is, Jo
?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Well, I think one of the things that happened for
myself aside from my past, andyou know some of the things that
I had to go through as ayounger person, just in terms of
my childhood, which was quitedifferent, you know and I share
I can share a little bit aboutof that.
Later I had to, and I believethat most of us in this
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generation have to go through asort of a, I would say, a quest,
and I think that happens at anyin any generation.
But the quest, I think for mostwomen in our generation, begins
with some steps.
So I often suggest to people toread the passion test.
The passion test asks some verybasic questions and if you're
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not familiar with the passiontest, it was written by Janet
Atwood.
It's still for me a time, atime tested, proven process that
walks you through just a, youknow, a very basic process that
says is this what resonates withyou?
Because I think we getoverwhelmed trying to figure
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this all out and especially weare way too close to it all out
and especially we are way tooclose to it.
Also, I went to others and Iasked them what they saw in me.
That I seem to do, naturally,because when we're too close to
it, what seems easy to us, thatwe discount as our natural gifts
where others are going mygoodness, joe, you're so good at
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this.
But we don't see it assomething that is a natural.
We don't see it as a giftbecause we think everyone can do
it.
But it isn't what everyone cando right.
Like clearly, for you, being onthis, doing what you're doing
right, this very second, thisability to interview others is a
natural gift.
I see it in you each and everytime we're on a call like this
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or doing an interview, doing apodcast it.
I see it in you each and everytime we're on a call like this
or doing an interview, doing apodcast.
It's clearly something that younaturally it's innate in you to
bring out someone to sharetheir natural gift.
This isn't what others can donaturally, and yet for you it
just flows.
So asking others what is innatein them or in myself helped me
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learn more about myself and yetstill I just counted it.
I don't want to make it soundlike it was an easy process, but
that one book helped a lot ingetting clarity, asking others
and then noticing that what Idid over and over again and what
brought me joy and what wasdeeply, you know, meaningful in
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my life.
Those are things that draw youover and over again and that
give you signs of what your truepurpose is.
For me, philanthropic work isit's a core value of mine.
The more philanthropic work Idid, I often joke that I aside
from and I'm not slamming theCatholic church.
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Before I say this, okay,there's no nothing being said
here about the Catholic church,but, aside from the Catholic
church part, I could have beenmother Teresa's sister.
I love all the work she did,all of it all of it.
I didn't really want to be inCalcutta, though, either.
So but inherently in what shedid, in the service she did, I
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love that work.
I feel connected to her service, so, if that makes sense.
So I'm drawn to the deepservice work she did, which is
why I love working with womenwho are in need and children who
are in need.
So you know, just getting downto the nitty gritty and helping
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women rise, especially womenthat have been through deep
trauma.
Those are the women I know willchange the world, because they
understand, they have thatempathy.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yes, I would agree with that, and drawing out those
talents that those people haveand giving that opportunity to
the children to learn what thatthat means at a young age you
know can change their path.
They won't take them as long aswhat it took possibly you and I
.
They wouldn't be in their 50sbefore they decide like this is
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what my true path is, so we canget them started so much younger
and really create change in theworld.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
And generational secrets will go away and they
won't repeat Right, absolutely,which you know and I know right.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yes, that's what it's all about, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Totally so.
When you did your journey, whatdid you find were your talents
other than being philanthropic?
What did?
You discover about yourself.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
What I could see that to me, I thought was such, it
was every.
I thought everyone could seethis.
I could work with a woman inbusiness and see the void, the
you know, the loopholes or thegaps that she couldn't see.
Within usually two to threeminutes of talking to her, I
could see why she was struggling.
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Easily, In a moment, just afive-minute conversation, I
would be able to go okay, whatabout this and what about that?
I thought everyone could dothat.
I thought that was just a, itwasn't a judgment, it was that,
oh, and I would get so and stilldo to this day.
I get so excited when I hearabout other people's businesses
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because I can see such a hugeopportunity for them to grow,
whether it be if they have thisdesire to go local or global.
I can see it, I can see thevision that they hold, but yet
are stuck and I thought Iactually truly thought everyone
could do that.
Now I could understand why theperson that was doing the
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business couldn't do it becausewe're too close right, so we put
our own blinders on, or, or weget stuck in the story of oh,
but how?
Because that's the, that's thehuman experience.
We start asking the how versuslooking at where we want to go.
We put our own fears andanxiety or we put stopgaps in
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place.
But when it comes to others, Ijust assumed that every single
person outside of that businesscould do that and help them get
there.
But I realized later that's nothow it works.
So for me, that was such a hugebreakthrough for myself, which
now seems funny because I am thebreakthrough expert but
sometimes we need to be, youknow, a two by four needs to
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come just to kind of remind usoh wow, this is an absolute gift
, and so helping these womenrise up and take their
businesses to the next leveljust became such a way, and to
be part of their story.
What a huge gift that is to me.
And I don't mean from an egostandpoint, but to stand and say
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, oh my goodness, to see themrise and help the ripple that
they create for themselves, youknow, the ripple that they're
doing and creating out into theworld, that is, that's a legacy
for me.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah absolutely Absolutely, and I think you do
an incredible job at that.
I don't know if I've watched youdo it, and I think it's a
beautiful thing that you do, andI think it takes a bit of an
intuitive nature.
And I think it's a beautifulthing that you do and I think it
takes a bit of an intuitivenature, and I think that's what
one of your talents is andthat's how you can see so
quickly what the person isrepresenting and what they're
missing or lacking or notconfident in.
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And, yeah, it's fantasticwatching you do that.
So tell us how you, how wewould enroll others, or you
would enroll others in thisjourney.
How do you make all of thiscome together for them?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Well, I think one of the things, just to one of the
challenges.
I think that happens as anentrepreneur and as a woman in
particular.
We tend to turn to our familiesand our very close friends,
looking and seeking theirsupport and them to be our
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cheerleaders, and that isactually the worst possible idea
we can have.
I agree, because the reason thatthat is such a challenge is the
people that we are turning tolove us so much and they're so
afraid of us getting hurt thatthey will actually become the
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number one obstacle to oursuccess.
It's not that they want us tofail.
They're afraid we might failand so they want to protect us
so much.
They put up obstacles in orderto protect us, and this seems so
counterintuitive, but it isexactly why they're doing it,
and I too have done this, by theway.
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I've turned to those who Ithought would be my biggest fans
, only to have these weirdthings thrown up along the way.
So for myself, when I'm lookingat support along the way I
build up and you've heard this,we've all heard I'm sure that
anyone who's been in businessfor a while has heard the
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importance of the sum of five.
I wish it was my saying, butit's not my saying.
The sum of five is critical inour lives, so enrolling others
in our journey is critical, butthe sum of five is not your five
best buddies, it's not yourfive cheerleaders that you would
go to the spa with.
It's not your five people thatyou go and have a glass of wine
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with, although you may end uphaving business friends that you
might go and celebrate and havea glass of champagne with if
that's your thing.
But these are people that willcall you out when you say you're
going to do something and youdon't do it.
These are people who will standwith you when you have, you
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know, succeeded, and they willstand and cheer at the top of
the mountain.
But they will also say hey,teresa, you said you were going
to get this done and you haven'tdone it yet.
Why is that?
They will also lead the chargewith you when there's something
that needs to be done, meaningthey will give you ideas.
They will be your confidants.
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They will be the ones because,let's face it, as an
entrepreneur, it can be a lonelyjourney, but it can also be the
highest of the highs and alsothe lowest of the lows.
And so you know, I tell peoplejoin a mastermind group.
We host, we have our ownmastermind group and you and
I've talked about those before.
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They're online, but find amastermind group and I'm not
talking about okay, so I'm goingto put something out there and
some people get offended by this, but you get what you pay for.
So join, right, join amastermind group.
There are some free groups outthere but join a group that you
put.
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You invest some money inbecause there's expectations
when you're investing intogroups.
I'm not saying that free groupsdon't have some value, but I'm
saying put some money in becausethere's an expectation you're
going to get some return.
But also create a group ofwomen that you can be
accountable to Make sure thatyou're not the smartest person
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in that group.
You don't need to be thesmartest person in that group.
You need to be.
You know, you want to be pushed, you want to be challenged.
So this sounds a little preachy, because it is.
I make sure that in mymastermind groups that I'm not
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the sharpest.
I'm not the sharpest one inthat group.
I want to be pushed and I wantto be called out.
I want what I?
Yeah right, do you know whatI'm?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
saying I do Absolutely.
I think if we're not beingchallenged, then we just assume
that we know everything, andthen there's no room for growth
and exactly for anything else.
So you know this, that you weretalking the sum of five, we
just assume that we knoweverything, and then there's no
room for growth, exactly, and noroom for anything else.
So you know you were talkingthe sum of five.
It is important to have thosepeople that will challenge you.
Be honest with you, number one,and you're right, family
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doesn't always want to be honestor best friends, because
they're afraid Well
Speaker 1 (19:28):
they're afraid, right , yeah, they're afraid.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, exactly, and I mean they could be the extended
five if you need that, but orjust as the support five,
Exactly Boosting up your ego orsomething like that.
But I mean, when you're inbusiness, you need that honesty,
you need that accountability,and that's how you grow, and
that's how you move up and keepgoing, so yeah.
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I think that's incredible and I,you know, I look forward to
being part of your mastermindgroup, because I know this is
going to change for me.
It's going to create anincredible link with people that
I can learn from, and possiblysomeone can learn from me as
well.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
So well, they will they will, and this is the thing
, right.
This is.
This is where the for lack of abetter way of saying this, hun
this is where the rubber meetsthe road, because when people
step in fully and are willing toshare openly and there has to
be a level of trust, that's theother thing that's very
important.
In a mastermind group, you know, you obviously have to have
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people coming from differentfields.
It can't be two of the sameindustry.
It doesn't work, because thenpeople aren't being as open.
But there has to be a level ofsharing and support for each
other and also a level of justmaking, you know, just rising up
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and having that sense ofaccomplishment, because
otherwise we don't move forwardas a whole.
And the truth is, when one ofus succeeds, we all succeed.
It is a collective thing andthere is no way around that,
right, because for anentrepreneur, the difference
between us and working in acorporation is that we have to
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do this with self-discipline,right, but when you create a
sense of community with your sumof five, there is that level of
success.
Now we raise the bar for eachother and there is a sense of
I'm going to say competition foreach other to say, hey, I can
do that too, and also a level ofconfidence that comes to say,
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if she could do it, I can do it.
It's not a level of tear eachother down, it's a level of lift
each other up.
And that's the beauty of it,right, and that's what women can
do, because we do buildcommunity and we are great
collaborators, which issomething that I think women
need to build upon more oftenthe mothers, the sisters, the
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grandmothers.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
You know we were talking about our family and
where we came from, and you knowthat was our original
generation, how we explored life.
And you know, now it's comingback as the sum of five, but
it's changed dynamics.
And how can we?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
leverage this right and it's as you said, if we
learn from the youngergeneration, because really
aren't we a symbioticrelationship?
If we look at the millennialswhich I have great respect for
and we look at our generationand we combine that and say,
look at the advantages that arehappening right now for women,
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because it's the best time forus to have our own businesses,
this is the best time in thehistory of mankind, womankind,
this is the best time.
And so if we look at those twoadvantages and we say, okay,
what is the best of the besthere and what is the best of the
best here, and we combine them,them, we are so powerful right
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now oh, absolutely, rather thanthan putting up a block and
saying, no, the youngergeneration doesn't understand us
and they need to do this, orthe younger generation saying
those little people have nothingto contribute.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Honestly, we do, they both do, we all do, and we can
grow from each other and learn,and we all bring something
unique to the table and we canall excel from working together.
And you're right, symbioticrelationship is the way to go.
So, Jo, what else do you havegoing on?
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Are you still writing?
Because I know you've written acouple really incredible books.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
I'm super excited.
Well, since writing, writingfrock off, which is the original
book that launched everything,and I have to tell you I just
still get emotional about this.
And you think, after you know,coming into six the sixth year
now of launching the book, andthe and the company, I, oh I
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mean, I'm basically pretty mucha sap.
I'm going to say hard ass as Iam, I'm sorry about that, but in
a way, yes and no, I getemotional, I think, just seeing
the changes that have happenedand really feeling so blessed to
work with so many amazingpeople like yourself and the
women around the world that I'veseen, just really lead the
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change and be the change andlead it and see this ripple
right, but see so many otherthings happening.
So then, you know, frockhoffwent international and we're now
, as I said, in our sixth yearand it's been so many
international awards.
That's been amazing.
And then Best Kept Secret cameand I'm finishing my fourth book
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, which is Bella's Dash, andit's coming out in the fall,
which is that's a wholedifferent story and a totally
different genre, has to do withPTSD, so kind of similar, in the
sense of you know, with whathappened with Frockhoff, but has
to do with adoption of rescueanimals and the impact with
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those with PTSD, and I don'tknow if we've talked much about
that, but you'll be hearing moreabout that, so I'm super
excited about that.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Amazing, that's fantastic yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Yeah, super excited.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
And so that's coming along.
There are so many people thatexperience post-traumatic stress
, me included, and you know.
You know, when we come frombackgrounds that we have
experienced in our lives, it'shard to come out of those lives
with not having post-traumaticstress.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
So and working with animals, and yeah, animals are
just incredible.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
To help heal and to grow, that that's wonderful.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Congratulations, that's exciting thank you, thank
you, and you know we've beenpicked up um again by the
publisher, so that's reallyexciting and and actually
sponsors are starting to reallyshow an interest in this book,
so that's been amazing.
It just speaks to the level ofpost-traumatic stress that's
actually being dealt with in oursociety.
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Both.
My husband's a retiredfirefighter, so first responders
have a lot of problems withthis as well.
So I'm very excited about thegood work that's going to help
create more awareness right andalso helping with rescue animals
.
So there's a lot of good thatwill come of that and it falls
in line with my philanthropicwork.
So again, it's going back toknowing what really moves that
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needle for us that really helpsus and working with more and
serving more people, but alsoour live events that we continue
to do and working with women inbusiness, helping them get
their message out to the worldand taking the stage.
Our next two that are coming upare in Edmonton and Portland,
so it's just you know we'retaking them into Mexico and
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looking into Europe this nextyear.
So holy cow.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
And isn't that articulate, it's amazing.
Well, you know, when I did myauthorship course, there was a
little section that you had todeal with, a purple cow.
Oh wow, there you go.
You know, if you're drivingdown a road and you see a purple
cow, what does that make youthink it's wow?
And you have to write thosefeelings about the purple cow.
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So, holy cow fits perfectly,doesn't it?
Doesn't?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
it.
It just feels amazing.
Who'd have thought Who'd?
Have thought the little girlthat grew up with no food, no
running water, no electricity, Ireally, I mean, I guess that's
why I still get emotional,because it's just really, you
just never know.
You just have to keep believingand stepping forward and and
you know, don't give up like awhole.
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It and stepping forward and youknow, don't give up Like a
whole, just don't give up.
Standing on the story is thebest thing I've ever done in my
life.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
And you know I've heard you say that stand on your
story instead of in it.
I heard you say that a coupleyears ago at one of your events
in Ontario that I was luckilyable to attend, and you know
that made all the difference inthe world for me for standing on
my story and not in it and youknow, that simple little
statement actually created sucha change in me and writing my
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book.
It took the emotional baggagethat I had experienced and it
just put it away.
So I now do stand on that story.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yes, you do.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I own that story.
I can talk about it without,you know, being afraid to talk
about anything that's involvedin that story.
I mean, I've met a few womenrecently, some younger and some
older, that have experiencedsexual abuse from the same
doctor I did, and they had neverspoke up about it until I wrote
it in my book.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
But now I can talk about it.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
It is.
It was just life changing andlife altering and you know I
hope you're going to come backto Ontario.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Absolutely, because I would love to attend one of
your events again.
They're fantastic and I highlyrecommend them.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Thank you, and I definitely need you speaking and
sharing more, because whatyou're doing you know what
you've done, and what you'redoing is so powerful.
It's just so powerful and thestory, just when you stand on it
, you change so many lives.
And for so long you and I bothwe stood in it, we didn't know,
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but once we stood on it, I tellyou it's so different.
Thank you very much for whatyou're doing.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Well, thank you, and I know that it took both of us
to be in our 50s before we couldstand on it.
Absolutely us to be in our 50sbefore we could stand on it.
You know and it's.
I would encourage anyone whohas a story, something similar
or any kind of a story, to startnow, because don't wait if it
needs to be out.
it has to be cleared and youknow.
(30:05):
Work on your business and grabeverything that you can and do
it from a place of honesty andintegrity and love, absolutely,
and don't settle.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Don't settle for less than because we're put here for
a purpose.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Absolutely, and when you find that and discover that
purpose and accept it you canhear it, you can hear it, you
can hear it, but until youaccept it, it's nothing is going
to happen.
And I think that's the key.
And doing all that self-carework, self-love, self-compassion
is really part of the journey,really needs to be part of the
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journey, because that's how weget put on that list and we get
to be top of that list when wedo that self-love and self-care
work.
So Jo is there anything else youwould like to leave the
listeners with today?
Is there a message that youwould like to share and leave
with us?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Just know how very impactful each of us really is,
because we are not the key thatopens the door for everyone, but
we are the key that opens thedoor for some, and we need to
stand.
We do, we need to be thatperson for those that need us,
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and I'm happy and thrilled totalk to anyone, and I've sent
the information for how to get ahold of me.
So please, teresa, if youwouldn't mind, share that with
any of your listeners.
I'll leave that with you andalso just to thank you again for
the opportunity to share.
You know my journey and my whatI love, what I absolutely love,
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which is just being the change.
In any way I can, and if I amthe key that will help another
open the door, and if I'm yourkey, please reach out to me,
because there's nothing I lovebetter than helping someone rise
up and just being part of yourstory.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
And thank you again for this, oh thank you and, yes,
we will have everything, all ofyour links, posted and we'll
have it on the divas thatcarecom network and I'll also
have it on my website as well.
So all of your links will beposted.
And, joe, I really want tothank you.
It's always a pleasure talkingto you and sharing your story
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and I hope we can do this again.
So that will be number three.
Hope we can do this again, sothat will be number three.
But I would love that series.
I think it's going to become aseries.
So, thank you, joe, and thankyou, divas, for joining us today
, and I really can't expressenough how much you need to get
in touch with Joe Dibley.
I think she is an incrediblewoman and if she is the one that
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fits best for you that can helpyou be the change in this world
, go for it.
So, to contact Jo again, I saidwe will have her links for
social media and everythingposted on the website and I look
forward to sharing more storieswith you.
So, divas, thank you and checkout Powering Through Life on the
DivasThatCareNetworkcom.
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Thanks so much, take care.
No problem.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hi and welcome to Powering Through Life.
I'm your host, teresa Sims, andmy mission is to share with you
the wide range of strategiesthat people use, discovered and
have adopted to power throughtheir lives when difficult
things happen.
Today, my very incredible guestis Jo Dibley, and Jo is a
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breakthrough expert, eternaloptimist and change catalyst,
but most of all, she's dedicatedto helping women entrepreneurs
live their legacy and sharetheir message of talents in the
world.
Jo, welcome to Powering ThroughLife.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Oh well, welcome, welcome, welcome.
I'm so excited, thank you.
I feel like I'm stepping into alovely, warm path to just
connect with others of like mind.
There's nothing more that Ilove than to be with others that
are doing the work of changeand helping others rise up.
(00:59):
It's just an honor to be here,so thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Oh, thanks, and I have experienced how you are a
change catalyst and I think it'san incredible journey that
you're on and you are changinglives, and I happen to have
first-hand experience at thatwith you.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Oh, thank you.
Well, you know, the work thatyou're doing is phenomenal and I
think, like attracts, like Imean, I don't think that I know
that we are all drawn to eachother when we are on this path
or on this journey.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Right.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
It's very much the law of attraction, isn't it
Totally?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, so today I know that you wanted to discuss
unleashing you and your purpose.
So, jo, what does that mean toyou?
How would you?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
describe that.
You know, over these last fiveand a half years, when I
launched our company, prokof,what I started to see more and
more.
I guess I'd been seeing itsince 2001.
I left Corporate Canada in 2001and I had launched my own
business or had gone intobusiness a different business
(02:05):
than what I do now but what Isaw in women was this taking
what was left meaning settlingfor what was left over.
At the end of the day, women inparticular give to the point of
exhaustion.
I'm not saying every woman, soI don't want to paint everyone
(02:25):
with the same brush, but I willsay that women in particular are
taught community first andself-service last, and what that
ends up meaning that we've beentaught that to take care of
self first looks and feelsselfish, although it's not
because we've also been taughtthat if you want to fill
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another's cup, you have to fillyours first.
Now, if you don't know whatyour purpose is, how do you do
that?
How do you unleash you when youdon't actually know what your
purpose is?
Mark Twain has a great sayingand many of you listening will
know this that the two mostimportant days in our lives are
the day that you were born andthe day you know why.
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The day you know why for memeans the day you know your
purpose in life.
Now again, how do you know whatit is you are to do and how do
you do that and how do youunleash that?
When you're so busy fillinganother's purpose and you're not
filling your own, we can oftenunderstand and get behind
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somebody else's purpose, butwhen we have to turn our focus
inward and focus on ourselves,there's somewhat of a disconnect
in our society and where wewill step back and say, well,
what does that look like and howwill I be perceived?
And that is why I think it's soimportant for us today and I do
think our society is shifting,but there's still a little bit,
(03:59):
and maybe it's age or ageismbefore I say this, but maybe
there's a perception, because Inoticed that some of the younger
generations and I'm datingmyself right now, I'm 57, so,
before I continue on as a57-year-old woman, what I'm
noticing that millennials are alittle bit better at saying you
(04:19):
know what?
I need to practice a little bitmore self-care so that I can
identify and take care of myself, so that I can serve others.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I would agree with you.
I you know personally as well.
I'm slightly a bit older thanyou today actually, so I can
understand that.
You know, when we were broughtup, it was more about becoming
wives and mothers, and doing foreverybody else.
And then there's elder care andall those other things that we
had heaped on our shoulders.
(04:51):
That you know.
I know for myself I wasn't evenon the list, let alone being at
the bottom of the list, untilyou know.
It took me in my 50s to figureout.
Wait a minute.
I need to be top of that listbecause I can't give to anybody
else if I have an empty tank.
Yeah exactly?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
And isn't that almost the coming of age for our
generation is really when we'rehitting our 50s, whereas I'm
seeing it in younger generationsthat it's 30s and maybe even
younger where they're coming ofage saying whoa, wait a minute,
if I am to do what I am to do inthis world in my lifetime, I
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need to figure that out soonerwhereas for us I love what you
said.
Where was I on that list?
Was I even on that list?
Because you and I heard aboutthe sandwich.
We were the sandwich generation.
It was expected, it wasrequired, it was not a if.
Then you were told this is howit was, and so you know to be
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the good girl, the nice girl,the girl next door this is how
it was, anything else was seenas, dare I say, the B word right
, I didn't say it, but we bothknow what I'm talking about.
It wasn't the beautiful wordeither, it was the B word with a
capital B, and we were seen asaggressive and self-serving.
(06:21):
And so how did we fit time todo that?
And if you were a mother andthe b word, oh my goodness, what
did that say about us?
Right?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
so very different, very different, you know yeah
and I think we could take a goodlesson from the younger
generation to learn you know howhow they go about setting this
process of of finding thepurpose and standing up for
themselves versus.
You know they can also learnfrom us, so I think it's a
(06:52):
mutual thing.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Totally.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I think conversation is really important to have with
those younger generations.
And, yeah, move on with whatour purpose is now.
So how would you go aboutfinding what your purpose is, Jo
?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Well, I think one of the things that happened for
myself aside from my past, andyou know some of the things that
I had to go through as ayounger person, just in terms of
my childhood, which was quitedifferent, you know and I share
I can share a little bit aboutof that.
Later I had to, and I believethat most of us in this
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generation have to go through asort of a, I would say, a quest,
and I think that happens at anyin any generation.
But the quest, I think for mostwomen in our generation, begins
with some steps.
So I often suggest to people toread the passion test.
The passion test asks some verybasic questions and if you're
(07:57):
not familiar with the passiontest, it was written by Janet
Atwood.
It's still for me a time, atime tested, proven process that
walks you through just a, youknow, a very basic process that
says is this what resonates withyou?
Because I think we getoverwhelmed trying to figure
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this all out and especially weare way too close to it all out
and especially we are way tooclose to it.
Also, I went to others and Iasked them what they saw in me.
That I seem to do, naturally,because when we're too close to
it, what seems easy to us, thatwe discount as our natural gifts
where others are going mygoodness, joe, you're so good at
(08:42):
this.
But we don't see it assomething that is a natural.
We don't see it as a giftbecause we think everyone can do
it.
But it isn't what everyone cando right.
Like clearly, for you, being onthis, doing what you're doing
right, this very second, thisability to interview others is a
natural gift.
I see it in you each and everytime we're on a call like this
(09:04):
or doing an interview, doing apodcast it.
I see it in you each and everytime we're on a call like this
or doing an interview, doing apodcast.
It's clearly something that younaturally it's innate in you to
bring out someone to sharetheir natural gift.
This isn't what others can donaturally, and yet for you it
just flows.
So asking others what is innatein them or in myself helped me
(09:28):
learn more about myself and yetstill I just counted it.
I don't want to make it soundlike it was an easy process, but
that one book helped a lot ingetting clarity, asking others
and then noticing that what Idid over and over again and what
brought me joy and what wasdeeply, you know, meaningful in
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my life.
Those are things that draw youover and over again and that
give you signs of what your truepurpose is.
For me, philanthropic work isit's a core value of mine.
The more philanthropic work Idid, I often joke that I aside
from and I'm not slamming theCatholic church.
(10:11):
Before I say this, okay,there's no nothing being said
here about the Catholic church,but, aside from the Catholic
church part, I could have beenmother Teresa's sister.
I love all the work she did,all of it all of it.
I didn't really want to be inCalcutta, though, either.
So but inherently in what shedid, in the service she did, I
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love that work.
I feel connected to her service, so, if that makes sense.
So I'm drawn to the deepservice work she did, which is
why I love working with womenwho are in need and children who
are in need.
So you know, just getting downto the nitty gritty and helping
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women rise, especially womenthat have been through deep
trauma.
Those are the women I know willchange the world, because they
understand, they have thatempathy.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yes, I would agree with that, and drawing out those
talents that those people haveand giving that opportunity to
the children to learn what thatthat means at a young age you
know can change their path.
They won't take them as long aswhat it took possibly you and I
.
They wouldn't be in their 50sbefore they decide like this is
(11:30):
what my true path is, so we canget them started so much younger
and really create change in theworld.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
And generational secrets will go away and they
won't repeat Right, absolutely,which you know and I know right.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yes, that's what it's all about, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Totally so.
When you did your journey, whatdid you find were your talents
other than being philanthropic?
What did?
You discover about yourself.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
What I could see that to me, I thought was such, it
was every.
I thought everyone could seethis.
I could work with a woman inbusiness and see the void, the
you know, the loopholes or thegaps that she couldn't see.
Within usually two to threeminutes of talking to her, I
could see why she was struggling.
(12:19):
Easily, In a moment, just afive-minute conversation, I
would be able to go okay, whatabout this and what about that?
I thought everyone could dothat.
I thought that was just a, itwasn't a judgment, it was that,
oh, and I would get so and stilldo to this day.
I get so excited when I hearabout other people's businesses
(12:39):
because I can see such a hugeopportunity for them to grow,
whether it be if they have thisdesire to go local or global.
I can see it, I can see thevision that they hold, but yet
are stuck and I thought Iactually truly thought everyone
could do that.
Now I could understand why theperson that was doing the
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business couldn't do it becausewe're too close right, so we put
our own blinders on, or, or weget stuck in the story of oh,
but how?
Because that's the, that's thehuman experience.
We start asking the how versuslooking at where we want to go.
We put our own fears andanxiety or we put stopgaps in
(13:22):
place.
But when it comes to others, Ijust assumed that every single
person outside of that businesscould do that and help them get
there.
But I realized later that's nothow it works.
So for me, that was such a hugebreakthrough for myself, which
now seems funny because I am thebreakthrough expert but
sometimes we need to be, youknow, a two by four needs to
(13:43):
come just to kind of remind usoh wow, this is an absolute gift
, and so helping these womenrise up and take their
businesses to the next leveljust became such a way, and to
be part of their story.
What a huge gift that is to me.
And I don't mean from an egostandpoint, but to stand and say
(14:06):
, oh my goodness, to see themrise and help the ripple that
they create for themselves, youknow, the ripple that they're
doing and creating out into theworld, that is, that's a legacy
for me.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah absolutely Absolutely, and I think you do
an incredible job at that.
I don't know if I've watched youdo it, and I think it's a
beautiful thing that you do, andI think it takes a bit of an
intuitive nature.
And I think it's a beautifulthing that you do and I think it
takes a bit of an intuitivenature, and I think that's what
one of your talents is andthat's how you can see so
quickly what the person isrepresenting and what they're
missing or lacking or notconfident in.
(14:46):
And, yeah, it's fantasticwatching you do that.
So tell us how you, how wewould enroll others, or you
would enroll others in thisjourney.
How do you make all of thiscome together for them?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Well, I think one of the things, just to one of the
challenges.
I think that happens as anentrepreneur and as a woman in
particular.
We tend to turn to our familiesand our very close friends,
looking and seeking theirsupport and them to be our
(15:25):
cheerleaders, and that isactually the worst possible idea
we can have.
I agree, because the reason thatthat is such a challenge is the
people that we are turning tolove us so much and they're so
afraid of us getting hurt thatthey will actually become the
(15:46):
number one obstacle to oursuccess.
It's not that they want us tofail.
They're afraid we might failand so they want to protect us
so much.
They put up obstacles in orderto protect us, and this seems so
counterintuitive, but it isexactly why they're doing it,
and I too have done this, by theway.
(16:06):
I've turned to those who Ithought would be my biggest fans
, only to have these weirdthings thrown up along the way.
So for myself, when I'm lookingat support along the way I
build up and you've heard this,we've all heard I'm sure that
anyone who's been in businessfor a while has heard the
(16:28):
importance of the sum of five.
I wish it was my saying, butit's not my saying.
The sum of five is critical inour lives, so enrolling others
in our journey is critical, butthe sum of five is not your five
best buddies, it's not yourfive cheerleaders that you would
go to the spa with.
It's not your five people thatyou go and have a glass of wine
(16:51):
with, although you may end uphaving business friends that you
might go and celebrate and havea glass of champagne with if
that's your thing.
But these are people that willcall you out when you say you're
going to do something and youdon't do it.
These are people who will standwith you when you have, you
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know, succeeded, and they willstand and cheer at the top of
the mountain.
But they will also say hey,teresa, you said you were going
to get this done and you haven'tdone it yet.
Why is that?
They will also lead the chargewith you when there's something
that needs to be done, meaningthey will give you ideas.
They will be your confidants.
(17:34):
They will be the ones because,let's face it, as an
entrepreneur, it can be a lonelyjourney, but it can also be the
highest of the highs and alsothe lowest of the lows.
And so you know, I tell peoplejoin a mastermind group.
We host, we have our ownmastermind group and you and
I've talked about those before.
(17:55):
They're online, but find amastermind group and I'm not
talking about okay, so I'm goingto put something out there and
some people get offended by this, but you get what you pay for.
So join, right, join amastermind group.
There are some free groups outthere but join a group that you
put.
(18:16):
You invest some money inbecause there's expectations
when you're investing intogroups.
I'm not saying that free groupsdon't have some value, but I'm
saying put some money in becausethere's an expectation you're
going to get some return.
But also create a group ofwomen that you can be
accountable to Make sure thatyou're not the smartest person
(18:37):
in that group.
You don't need to be thesmartest person in that group.
You need to be.
You know, you want to be pushed, you want to be challenged.
So this sounds a little preachy, because it is.
I make sure that in mymastermind groups that I'm not
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the sharpest.
I'm not the sharpest one inthat group.
I want to be pushed and I wantto be called out.
I want what I?
Yeah right, do you know whatI'm?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
saying I do Absolutely.
I think if we're not beingchallenged, then we just assume
that we know everything, andthen there's no room for growth
and exactly for anything else.
So you know this, that you weretalking the sum of five, we
just assume that we knoweverything, and then there's no
room for growth, exactly, and noroom for anything else.
So you know you were talkingthe sum of five.
It is important to have thosepeople that will challenge you.
Be honest with you, number one,and you're right, family
(19:25):
doesn't always want to be honestor best friends, because
they're afraid Well
Speaker 1 (19:28):
they're afraid, right , yeah, they're afraid.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, exactly, and I mean they could be the extended
five if you need that, but orjust as the support five,
Exactly Boosting up your ego orsomething like that.
But I mean, when you're inbusiness, you need that honesty,
you need that accountability,and that's how you grow, and
that's how you move up and keepgoing, so yeah.
(19:51):
I think that's incredible and I,you know, I look forward to
being part of your mastermindgroup, because I know this is
going to change for me.
It's going to create anincredible link with people that
I can learn from, and possiblysomeone can learn from me as
well.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
So well, they will they will, and this is the thing
, right.
This is.
This is where the for lack of abetter way of saying this, hun
this is where the rubber meetsthe road, because when people
step in fully and are willing toshare openly and there has to
be a level of trust, that's theother thing that's very
important.
In a mastermind group, you know, you obviously have to have
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people coming from differentfields.
It can't be two of the sameindustry.
It doesn't work, because thenpeople aren't being as open.
But there has to be a level ofsharing and support for each
other and also a level of justmaking, you know, just rising up
(20:55):
and having that sense ofaccomplishment, because
otherwise we don't move forwardas a whole.
And the truth is, when one ofus succeeds, we all succeed.
It is a collective thing andthere is no way around that,
right, because for anentrepreneur, the difference
between us and working in acorporation is that we have to
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do this with self-discipline,right, but when you create a
sense of community with your sumof five, there is that level of
success.
Now we raise the bar for eachother and there is a sense of
I'm going to say competition foreach other to say, hey, I can
do that too, and also a level ofconfidence that comes to say,
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if she could do it, I can do it.
It's not a level of tear eachother down, it's a level of lift
each other up.
And that's the beauty of it,right, and that's what women can
do, because we do buildcommunity and we are great
collaborators, which issomething that I think women
need to build upon more oftenthe mothers, the sisters, the
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grandmothers.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
You know we were talking about our family and
where we came from, and you knowthat was our original
generation, how we explored life.
And you know, now it's comingback as the sum of five, but
it's changed dynamics.
And how can we?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
leverage this right and it's as you said, if we
learn from the youngergeneration, because really
aren't we a symbioticrelationship?
If we look at the millennialswhich I have great respect for
and we look at our generationand we combine that and say,
look at the advantages that arehappening right now for women,
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because it's the best time forus to have our own businesses,
this is the best time in thehistory of mankind, womankind,
this is the best time.
And so if we look at those twoadvantages and we say, okay,
what is the best of the besthere and what is the best of the
best here, and we combine them,them, we are so powerful right
(23:12):
now oh, absolutely, rather thanthan putting up a block and
saying, no, the youngergeneration doesn't understand us
and they need to do this, orthe younger generation saying
those little people have nothingto contribute.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Honestly, we do, they both do, we all do, and we can
grow from each other and learn,and we all bring something
unique to the table and we canall excel from working together.
And you're right, symbioticrelationship is the way to go.
So, Jo, what else do you havegoing on?
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Are you still writing?
Because I know you've written acouple really incredible books.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
I'm super excited.
Well, since writing, writingfrock off, which is the original
book that launched everything,and I have to tell you I just
still get emotional about this.
And you think, after you know,coming into six the sixth year
now of launching the book, andthe and the company, I, oh I
(24:09):
mean, I'm basically pretty mucha sap.
I'm going to say hard ass as Iam, I'm sorry about that, but in
a way, yes and no, I getemotional, I think, just seeing
the changes that have happenedand really feeling so blessed to
work with so many amazingpeople like yourself and the
women around the world that I'veseen, just really lead the
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change and be the change andlead it and see this ripple
right, but see so many otherthings happening.
So then, you know, frockhoffwent international and we're now
, as I said, in our sixth yearand it's been so many
international awards.
That's been amazing.
And then Best Kept Secret cameand I'm finishing my fourth book
(24:57):
, which is Bella's Dash, andit's coming out in the fall,
which is that's a wholedifferent story and a totally
different genre, has to do withPTSD, so kind of similar, in the
sense of you know, with whathappened with Frockhoff, but has
to do with adoption of rescueanimals and the impact with
(25:17):
those with PTSD, and I don'tknow if we've talked much about
that, but you'll be hearing moreabout that, so I'm super
excited about that.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Amazing, that's fantastic yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Yeah, super excited.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
And so that's coming along.
There are so many people thatexperience post-traumatic stress
, me included, and you know.
You know, when we come frombackgrounds that we have
experienced in our lives, it'shard to come out of those lives
with not having post-traumaticstress.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
So and working with animals, and yeah, animals are
just incredible.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
To help heal and to grow, that that's wonderful.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Congratulations, that's exciting thank you, thank
you, and you know we've beenpicked up um again by the
publisher, so that's reallyexciting and and actually
sponsors are starting to reallyshow an interest in this book,
so that's been amazing.
It just speaks to the level ofpost-traumatic stress that's
actually being dealt with in oursociety.
(26:15):
Both.
My husband's a retiredfirefighter, so first responders
have a lot of problems withthis as well.
So I'm very excited about thegood work that's going to help
create more awareness right andalso helping with rescue animals
.
So there's a lot of good thatwill come of that and it falls
in line with my philanthropicwork.
So again, it's going back toknowing what really moves that
(26:39):
needle for us that really helpsus and working with more and
serving more people, but alsoour live events that we continue
to do and working with women inbusiness, helping them get
their message out to the worldand taking the stage.
Our next two that are coming upare in Edmonton and Portland,
so it's just you know we'retaking them into Mexico and
(27:02):
looking into Europe this nextyear.
So holy cow.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
And isn't that articulate, it's amazing.
Well, you know, when I did myauthorship course, there was a
little section that you had todeal with, a purple cow.
Oh wow, there you go.
You know, if you're drivingdown a road and you see a purple
cow, what does that make youthink it's wow?
And you have to write thosefeelings about the purple cow.
(27:27):
So, holy cow fits perfectly,doesn't it?
Doesn't?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
it.
It just feels amazing.
Who'd have thought Who'd?
Have thought the little girlthat grew up with no food, no
running water, no electricity, Ireally, I mean, I guess that's
why I still get emotional,because it's just really, you
just never know.
You just have to keep believingand stepping forward and and
you know, don't give up like awhole.
(27:52):
It and stepping forward and youknow, don't give up Like a
whole, just don't give up.
Standing on the story is thebest thing I've ever done in my
life.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
And you know I've heard you say that stand on your
story instead of in it.
I heard you say that a coupleyears ago at one of your events
in Ontario that I was luckilyable to attend, and you know
that made all the difference inthe world for me for standing on
my story and not in it and youknow, that simple little
statement actually created sucha change in me and writing my
(28:21):
book.
It took the emotional baggagethat I had experienced and it
just put it away.
So I now do stand on that story.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yes, you do.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I own that story.
I can talk about it without,you know, being afraid to talk
about anything that's involvedin that story.
I mean, I've met a few womenrecently, some younger and some
older, that have experiencedsexual abuse from the same
doctor I did, and they had neverspoke up about it until I wrote
it in my book.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
But now I can talk about it.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
It is.
It was just life changing andlife altering and you know I
hope you're going to come backto Ontario.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Absolutely, because I would love to attend one of
your events again.
They're fantastic and I highlyrecommend them.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Thank you, and I definitely need you speaking and
sharing more, because whatyou're doing you know what
you've done, and what you'redoing is so powerful.
It's just so powerful and thestory, just when you stand on it
, you change so many lives.
And for so long you and I bothwe stood in it, we didn't know,
(29:36):
but once we stood on it, I tellyou it's so different.
Thank you very much for whatyou're doing.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Well, thank you, and I know that it took both of us
to be in our 50s before we couldstand on it.
Absolutely us to be in our 50sbefore we could stand on it.
You know and it's.
I would encourage anyone whohas a story, something similar
or any kind of a story, to startnow, because don't wait if it
needs to be out.
it has to be cleared and youknow.
(30:05):
Work on your business and grabeverything that you can and do
it from a place of honesty andintegrity and love, absolutely,
and don't settle.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Don't settle for less than because we're put here for
a purpose.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Absolutely, and when you find that and discover that
purpose and accept it you canhear it, you can hear it, you
can hear it, but until youaccept it, it's nothing is going
to happen.
And I think that's the key.
And doing all that self-carework, self-love, self-compassion
is really part of the journey,really needs to be part of the
(30:45):
journey, because that's how weget put on that list and we get
to be top of that list when wedo that self-love and self-care
work.
So Jo is there anything else youwould like to leave the
listeners with today?
Is there a message that youwould like to share and leave
with us?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Just know how very impactful each of us really is,
because we are not the key thatopens the door for everyone, but
we are the key that opens thedoor for some, and we need to
stand.
We do, we need to be thatperson for those that need us,
(31:26):
and I'm happy and thrilled totalk to anyone, and I've sent
the information for how to get ahold of me.
So please, teresa, if youwouldn't mind, share that with
any of your listeners.
I'll leave that with you andalso just to thank you again for
the opportunity to share.
You know my journey and my whatI love, what I absolutely love,
(31:50):
which is just being the change.
In any way I can, and if I amthe key that will help another
open the door, and if I'm yourkey, please reach out to me,
because there's nothing I lovebetter than helping someone rise
up and just being part of yourstory.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
And thank you again for this, oh thank you and, yes,
we will have everything, all ofyour links, posted and we'll
have it on the divas thatcarecom network and I'll also
have it on my website as well.
So all of your links will beposted.
And, joe, I really want tothank you.
It's always a pleasure talkingto you and sharing your story
(32:27):
and I hope we can do this again.
So that will be number three.
Hope we can do this again, sothat will be number three.
But I would love that series.
I think it's going to become aseries.
So, thank you, joe, and thankyou, divas, for joining us today
, and I really can't expressenough how much you need to get
in touch with Joe Dibley.
I think she is an incrediblewoman and if she is the one that
(32:49):
fits best for you that can helpyou be the change in this world
, go for it.
So, to contact Jo again, I saidwe will have her links for
social media and everythingposted on the website and I look
forward to sharing more storieswith you.
So, divas, thank you and checkout Powering Through Life on the
DivasThatCareNetworkcom.
(33:10):
Thanks so much, take care.
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